Andy & Ari On3 - The CEILING and the FLOOR for every SEC team in the 2024 college football season

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Andy Staples on three. Very exciting show for you today. We start our series on ceilings and floors, conference by conference. We're going to get your hopes up and we're also going to make you very mad. You can decide where you want to fall along that spectrum because we're going to give you the whole range of what your team is capable of. And it's a very fun exercise, very educational too, because it allows you to dig very deep into schedules and the rosters and figure out, okay, who are the real contenders for this first 12-team college football playoff?
Starting point is 00:00:36 Today is the SEC. Cody Belair, on three's national scout, will join me, and we will break down the ceiling and the floor for every SEC team. There's 16 of them now. 16. One is LSU. And that's a particularly wide range of potential outcomes. And we knew that when we talked to Billy Embody from the Bengal Tiger the other day, we've known that for a while. But one of the more interesting subplots involving LSU lately is the Tiger search for interior defensive line help. They didn't sign anybody in the 23 class at that position. They did sign a lot of freshman defensive linemen in 2024, but that's not really a position you want to rely on a bunch of true freshmen at. So Brian Kelly was asked by Jacques Doucet, Jacques Doucet, great TV reporter in
Starting point is 00:01:32 Louisiana, incredible name for a TV reporter in Louisiana as well, but Jacques Doucet is an institution. And so he does a sit down with Brian Kelly or whoever the LSU coach is every year. And in this particular one, Jacques asked Brian about the search for transfer defensive tackles because it didn't go well for LSU. Like Dominic Williams, he went to Oklahoma. LSU was not the only one in the mix for that. Texas was trying to get Dominic Williams as well. He was at at TCU he was a two-year starter at TCU that type of person was not readily available or plentiful in the spring transfer portal window there were more of those in the winter transfer portal window and we'll get to that in a second but here's what Brian Kelly said about that. And boy, it had the college football internet
Starting point is 00:02:28 a buzz on Tuesday night. So the D-line, interior D-lineman, where are you right now with that? Well, I think I made it pretty clear in a number of the press conferences that I had that we were in the market in recruiting in the transfer portal looking for defensive linemen. It hasn't fared very well, quite frankly, because, you know, we're selling something a little bit differently. And that is we want to recruit. We want to engage, build relationships. We want to develop, retain and have you and have success. We're not in the market of buying players. And unfortunately, right now, that's what some guys are looking for. They want to be bought.
Starting point is 00:03:17 And look, I understand NIL is part of this. And we have an incredible collective. We have very, very generous opportunities around the greater Baton Rouge area for NIL opportunities. So they are here, but we're not going to go out and buy players. That's not what this is about. This was never about that. We will develop you. We will get you ready for the next step, as we did with Jaden Daniels, as we did with Malik Neighbors, as we did with Brian Thomas. We developed three defensive linemen that all got drafted this year,
Starting point is 00:03:53 and we'll do that again. But if you're just looking to get paid, you're looking in the wrong place. If you like all the things that we do here in developing our players, bringing you into a championship program, playing in front of the best fan base in America, playing for championships, and having an opportunity for NIL, you should be a Tiger. But if you just want to get, you know, paid, this is not the place for you. That's not the way you say it in the year of our Lord 2024, Brian Kelly, because everybody's buying players. There's nothing wrong with buying players. It's perfectly
Starting point is 00:04:30 within the rules. When you say that, you know what the world thinks you are? A broke boy. They think your collective is broke. They think you can't afford anybody. They think you don't want to live in this world. They think the guy who left Notre Dame, because Notre Dame does a lot of things like having higher academic standards, the way players live with regular students, all of that stuff that Notre Dame does makes it harder to compete for a national title. Notre Dame does it by choice. And if you're at Notre Dame, you make those choices for a reason.
Starting point is 00:05:17 But you left Notre Dame and go to LSU because you wanted to compete for national titles because LSU does the things that allows a team to compete for national titles like Ohio State does, like Georgia does, like Alabama does. And now you say you don't want to do the things that people do to compete for national titles. You say you're not into buying players. LSU's into buying coaches. They bought you for $10 million a year to win national championships. They didn't buy you to say we're not into buying players. Now, here's the correct way to say that. Because Brian Kelly was not entirely wrong here.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Like, Brian Kelly is making a decent point. He's just not making it with the correct words if instead of saying we're not into buying players brian kelly had said we're not into buying this particular type of player in this market then it would have been understandable and it would make sense. And it does make sense. Here's the thing. In the spring transfer portal window, everybody's still looking for defensive linemen, but there aren't a lot of good defensive linemen available. So when you get a Dominic Williams or a Simeon Barrow, the price for that person is significantly higher than it would have been in the winter window.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Or than it would have been had you signed a good defensive tackle two years ago, a year ago, and developed him and then paid to retain him. what you're saying is we're not willing to pay the market value right now because we believe that person isn't necessarily worth what the market says they're worth right now. And that is a completely fair statement. Completely fair. Trying to get a defensive tackle in the spring transfer portal window. I say this as a Florida resident. I realize a lot of you LSU fans live in Louisiana, so you understand where I'm coming from. It's like trying to find batteries in bottled water six hours before the hurricane hits, or like trying to find lumber 12 hours after the hurricane hit.
Starting point is 00:07:38 It's really expensive if you can find it, but it's not worth any more than it was worth before, depending on where you're at. That's the issue. LSU didn't sign any D tackles in 2023, which was Brian Kelly's first full recruiting cycle. If they'd done that, they might have some people that they've developed.
Starting point is 00:08:16 They signed a big class in 2024. They got Bo Davis, one of the best defensive line coaches in America, who's great at developing talent. We're going to talk about him when we talk about LSU's floor and LSU's ceiling, but you look at what he did at Texas, developing Byron Murphy, developing Tavondre Sweat, developing Alfred Collins. He's really good at it. So this time next year, this might not be a problem. This time this year, it is a problem because you're coming off having the worst defense LSU's maybe ever had. You're still thin at corner and you're still thin at defensive tackle.
Starting point is 00:08:50 You should have addressed it in the winter. You didn't. It left you desperate and grasping and getting into these bidding wars in the spring, which I understand if you said we are not going to do that because there's several reasons to say we're not going to pay the going rate for this particular person. And one of those reasons is you don't think they're quite good enough to command that. And that's perfectly understandable.
Starting point is 00:09:20 The other reason is if you did give them that money and you bring them into the locker room where everybody's not making what they're making and the players realize, oh wait, this person's not that good, then you have a problem because the other guys are going to want to redo their deals. Players are smart. If you bring in a guy who's going to be a first round D tackle and you pay him a bunch of money, they're like, well, that's fine. No problem. I see this dude at practice. He's awesome. Let's go. But if you bring in somebody who's just kind of as good as everybody else you got and you paid
Starting point is 00:09:58 him a bunch of money, that's going to be a problem. So that's the issue that Brian Kelly should have pointed out. Instead of saying, we're not going to buy players. Yes, you are going to buy players. Makai Wingo was one of those defensive tackles that got drafted off your team. He was a freshman all SEC at Missouri. You didn't get him for free. Catherine in the chat. The real problem here is BK was not able to hang on to Makai Wingo and he slow rode the new defensive staff hires, essentially missing the winter portal window. That's exactly right, Catherine. And also didn't sign any D tackles in 23. All of those issues coming home to roost now. I don't blame them for not overpaying in this market. You heard Pete Nacos
Starting point is 00:10:49 yesterday. We explained this. I said, if you're a good defensive tackle, if you're a good offensive lineman, let's say all Mac, all Sunbelt, all American Athletic Conference, you should enter the spring transfer portal window with a week to go because there will be a frenzy over you because there are so many more buyers than there are sellers at that point. You will make a lot more than you would have. That's just how the calendar works. That's just how the market works given the way the calendar is set up. And for LSU, it may not have made sense to overpay for a defensive tackle. But that's not the way you answer that question.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Because everybody will just assume you're broke. What's LSU? You're not broke. You can afford Brian Kelly. So you're not broke. But that's not how you answer that question. All right, let us move on. We'll talk more LSU later.
Starting point is 00:11:55 We're going to talk the whole SEC though. Ceilings, floors. What's the best case scenario? What is the worst case scenario for your team this year? This is such a fun exercise. We're going to do it for every conference. We start with the SEC. Here is Cody Belair and me talking ceilings and floors.
Starting point is 00:12:23 We are joined now by Cody Belair, who people much cooler than me tell me looks like a guy named Noah Kahn. Part of the thrill of being an old guy is there are musicians that you are completely unaware of that apparently everybody else knows. So I did my homework. Noah Khan is, well, you're watching the video, so you see Cody Blair. So imagine this person on the video doing a very over the top Bob Dylan impression at karaoke night. That's Noah Khan. I tell you what, Andy, it's, it's genuinely probably like the first doppelganger I really had that I've like actually bought into, you know, somebody will be like, Oh, you kind of look like whoever this one's legit. Like, I think this one, I have genuinely, my girlfriend and I were out at a bar probably a week and a half ago doing trivia in the table next to us.
Starting point is 00:13:13 This girl was just staring at us for probably the hour and a half that the trivia lasts. And then at the end of the night, when they got up, she came over to me and said, sorry for staring at you all night. I could have sworn you were Noah Khan. I've had that happen.
Starting point is 00:13:29 You should have been like six times in the last two months. So I've never had the pleasure. When I was heavier, I got fat Ray Liotta and fat Gary Sinise. But I've never actually had a doppelganger who's famous. Sure, sure. But the late great Mike Leach did. Denise, but I've never, never actually been had a doppelganger who's famous. Sure. Sure. But the late great Mike Leach did.
Starting point is 00:13:54 If you, if you look at pictures of Mike Leach in the early nineties, when he was coaching at Valdosta state, he was a dead ringer for Vince Gill. And so when he was attempting to recruit Jacquez green out of Fort Valley, Georgia, so we will find middle Georgia town. He would go to the Hooters in Macon. Or possibly Warner Robins, I'm not sure. Probably both. And his server that he had multiple times was convinced that she was serving Vince Gill, who was a mega star at the time.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Right. Like, top of the top. Like, mountaintop. And Mike Leach did nothing to disabuse her of this notion i guess i think to play it off more you know i was a choir guy in high school so maybe i should just sing just kind of like regularly as i'm walking through the street just pretend you're singing like a rolling stone yeah and just a little stick season on the way home just see exactly i'm sure noah sure Noah covers Dylan because he's clearly doing the impression.
Starting point is 00:14:47 No doubt. We got business to attend to. Yeah, let's talk ball. We mentioned the late, great Mike Leach, who was the head coach at Mississippi State, the offensive coordinator at Kentucky. We are doing the ceiling and the floor for the teams of the SEC, 16- in 2024 get ready for a marathon folks so here's how this works we're gonna make you really happy and we're gonna make you really mad yeah basically at the same time we're gonna tell you how good your team can be but also how bad your team might be
Starting point is 00:15:21 and i this is a fun exercise because as i don't know about you, Cody, but as I was doing this, seeing the teams where the spread is not very wide. Yes. It's like, oh, we've kind of figured these people out. Right. And then there's some where it's just like, we have no idea. Well, that was kind of the fun exercise for me. Like you mentioned, when you kind of really dig through it and you start to look at the schedule, there's even some teams in here that I think have been not to tip my hand too much here, but there have been perennial powers that you really sit down and say, what's the worst case scenario. And that spread is vast from what's really the best case scenario. think i think i know what you're talking about
Starting point is 00:16:05 i think yeah i think it's one of the new teams in the sec it could very well be it could very well be so we'll get into it i think as we go down well and also the uh when we get to kentucky i think we're going to explain exactly what happened with the a m coach search last year right yep and the blessing and the curse of mark stoops exactly it's yep it's gonna be amazing yeah absolutely i'm really excited about today's man i'm really excited let us start let's just start with the one that lost the goat i think that's a good place to start because i think when nick saban retired in that moment on that Wednesday, we would have said, we don't know what the hell's going to happen. This is, this is very up in the air. Since then, Kalen DeBoer has been hired.
Starting point is 00:16:52 He's gone through a spring. There's been a spring transfer portal season, the end of the winter transfer portal season. And I got to tell you, Cody, like the return of Caden Proctor sort of was the tipping point for me. And, you know, I went up Tuscaloosa, talk to some people. Sure. I just think, I don't think the drop off is there at all. Like Alabama for me, the ceiling is national title. The floor is nine and three. I can't find more than three losses. Interesting. Yeah. So when I looked at it and I'll preface this, I think Bama potentially could have one of the bigger swings of any team in the country this year. Really? Now, do I think that it's likely that worst case scenario happens? No, I don't. Because I don't think Kalen DeBoer has shown you anything different in any stop that he's had that they're going to struggle.
Starting point is 00:17:48 However, this is the mountaintop, right, in terms of conferences. The SEC is the big bad guy. And I think that they will start 2-0, no issue, right? I think Wisconsin early is actually kind of scary. Week three, you know, Luke Fickle's no slouch in his own right. And, you know, you still need to see DeBoer and Milrow on the same page. And I think week three on the road at Wisconsin is a reasonable test. And I'm just giving you worst case here, right?
Starting point is 00:18:23 Yeah. Now, here's worse. And we should explain our methodology here. Sure. best and I'm just giving you worst case here right yeah now here here's here's worse and and we should explain our our methodology here sure it's like for my floor I did not do if everything goes bad like everybody gets food poisoning before every game I didn't do that with so for example the reason I have Alabama's floor so high is because of Kalen divorce history. So what, what I basically did with most of the teams when I was doing the floor is I just sort of split the 50, 50 games. Sure. If that's the case, I totally see that. I can only, I can understand that.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Now I will say Wisconsin could be a test, especially going there. But here's the thing that I don't know that people realize they're going to be tested a week earlier by USF. Alex Golish his team is going to be pretty good. They were vastly improved last year. Now look, the Alabama USF game last year, you can throw that out. That was Nick Saban and company saying, you guys wanted to see Tyler Buckner. Okay. Here's Tyler Buckner. So that's, that doesn't necessarily count in, in, in the calculations here, but I do think this will be a fairly good team running that offense that gave the old Nick Saban defense some trouble when
Starting point is 00:19:41 it was run at Tennessee by Alex Gullish. I think they will be all right. And I actually think they'll be right with Wisconsin. Then you get Georgia coming to Tuscaloosa. And that's where you decide whether it's going to be the ceiling situation. Because if they can beat Georgia, then they can beat anybody. But I struggle because if they lose three games, what three games are we talking about? It's like, are we talking about Georgia, Tennessee, LSU, Georgia,
Starting point is 00:20:09 Tennessee, Auburn, Georgia, Tennessee, Oklahoma. Yeah. That's, that's kind of what I was looking at too. And I think to your point, I think the, the Georgia Tennessee game are the two that I think you almost put in chalk that they're going to have a tough time. I think those are tough games regardless. But as you kind of head down the schedule too, I think the one that kind of throws me off in there, and I know it's a long shot, right? So
Starting point is 00:20:36 this is almost working in the opposite direction. I think that Iron Bowl is going to be tough. Oh, I don't disagree. I think the way Hugh Freeze is heading and the way i don't disagree like absolutely right i think the way hugh freeze is heading and the way they they've sort of pieced together some of these skill guys on that offense that's going to be a tough game especially since it's at the end of the season and they have some of these guys that are young and they're basically going to be complete sort of they're going to complete that freshman year they'll be on the back end of their freshman season they'll have some experience that last game of the year is where things i think
Starting point is 00:21:07 turned from a 10 win season to a nine win season he also he should have beaten him last year right that game being in tuscaloosa though does it changes that a little bit at oklahoma is is another one but i will tell you with auburn everywhere i see auburn on somebody's schedule particularly at auburn right for for the for the floor i'm i'm giving that a loss to the team that is going to auburn just because if auburn is good you're going to lose that game like for most teams for the record is not a wild statement there is a world world in which Auburn is good and I think people are sort of sleeping on that fact. Yeah, but I mean I look at Alabama and and what they bring back.
Starting point is 00:21:55 It doesn't feel like they they lost a ton off a team that was let's be real here. Mm hmm. maybe a play away from winning the national title. Would they have beaten Washington had they played? I think they probably would have. They should have beaten Michigan. If the snap gets back to Mill Row in a timely fashion, they probably do beat Michigan. So I think this is a team that should be coming into the season
Starting point is 00:22:24 expecting to compete for a national title, expecting to go deep in the playoff. You know, I just, it's hard to imagine them not being in the playoff because, again, you're talking three losses there. Yeah, and I think to your point, it's one of those deals where are we really going to sit here and bet against a Heisman finalist paired with Kalen DeBoer? I just don't see that ending up in a team that loses more than two games in a regular season and doesn't end up in a playoff. I just don't see it. Yeah. All right. We're going to, we're
Starting point is 00:22:56 going to move in a slightly different way. Actually, before we do that, what is your floor for Alabama? Cause you said your floor was a little bit different than mine. I think it could be seven and five. think that's what the absolute disaster yeah bottom is seven and five i think wisconsin is that sneaky one in week three you could end up losing to georgia and tennessee that's three losses but missouri lsu auburn missouri auburn oklahoma you could split those and i think that's where you sort of say, oh gosh, we are in a different tenure of Alabama football. And I think Tuscaloosa basically feels like the sky is falling. But again, that is literal doomsday scenario. I just don't see it
Starting point is 00:23:41 happening. I couldn't go that far. I struggled to go that far and i don't i actually because of the randomness of of how this works because we all it's funny i always laugh when people do the play out the whole schedule thing sure and they they just like for each conference they give each team all the wins in the non-conference so that everybody looks good at the end but it's not going to be that way it's also not going to be as bad as we as we possibly think you know there may be one team where the bottom absolutely falls out but it's it's pretty rare agree we're gonna we're gonna go to another team that is in a very different place than Alabama. But first, I got to tell you about Roback. So happy that our friends at Roback are back with us.
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Starting point is 00:25:51 scheduling, I have never seen anything like this because the SEC kindly tacked on a brutal finish to a non-conference schedule that includes Miami, UCF, and Florida State. Like going for a true state championship this year, except this is not the year you want to do that. That's exactly what I was going to say. I was like, there's no real way to dance around this one, Andy. This is a staff that's coaching for their jobs this season.
Starting point is 00:26:22 And ironically, I really do think Florida's improved. That's the toughest part of this deal, because I think on both sides of the ball, you're looking at a team that actually is going to look better, but the record might stay the exact same. And it's solely because of what that schedule looks like. Well, and that's the question because is that good enough? Five and seven was the record last year. Right. Is that good enough? So, my my ceiling on Florida is actually eight and four. I have the exact same way. Because there is a there's a world where they start off five and oh. Yup, and then maybe they beat Tennessee or Kentucky.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Maybe they beat LSU. Maybe Ole Miss has not had the season that they expected, and November looked different. Maybe Florida State, which is a very different-looking team this year, maybe is different. So I can see that. I agree. That's actually borderline verbatimim what I have in my notes I think this is a team that sort of I think they all take a step in the right direction offensively defensively Graham Mertz obviously this is a pivotal year for him I think this is something
Starting point is 00:27:41 too where skill on the skill side of things yes yes, they lose Ricky Pearsall, but they still have Trey Wilson, who was a freshman All-American last year, plus Aiden Mizell, who was an industry top 100 wide receiver. Yes, they lose Trevor Etienne, but they sign Katie Daniels in this 24 class. They bring in Jason Zandamela and Devon Manuel from Arkansas. This is an offense that's sort of, I think, another year under Graham Mertz. They actually look pretty darn good. And defensively, I think it's sort of the same thing.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Yes, they lost a lot of pieces in the portal. Guys like Kamari Wilson, Prince Umun Mielan. But they go out and they bring in some solid talent. Jameer Grimsley, they end up flipping from Alabama. DJ Douglas from San Diego State. Triquez Bridges from Oregon. They bring in a five-star in LJ McCray. Joey Slackman, who was one of the biggest defensive tackle prospects
Starting point is 00:28:33 in the portal, right from Penn. And these are guys that could come in and play pivotal roles for both sides of the ball. I think eight and four is extremely doable, but it's going to be on Graham Mertz's shoulders. And here's the kicker to this, Andy. And I think you're going to go in this direction as well. If Graham Mertz isn't doing the thing in the first three or four games this year, the pressure you brought in will be enormous. Yeah. The fans will be screaming the
Starting point is 00:29:02 name a hundred percent. Well, if we're talking freshmen who should contribute quickly on offense, Jaden Baugh is the name you need to know. He's a giant running back who had a lot of really good options coming out of high school and picked Florida and in the spring game looked like a guy who had a lot of really good options. He looked like he could play right away so offensively i'm not as worried about them as i am defensively like this has not been a good defense at florida really since dan mullen's first year yeah like they've just not been very
Starting point is 00:29:41 effective defensively and losing principine me and Manny mail and hurts, you know, you get Shamar James back who Shamar James is, is a fantastic player. It's going to be an NFL player. Miles Graham comes in as a freshman. He looks like a million bucks. We'll see how he winds up playing, but LJ McCray,
Starting point is 00:29:59 you mentioned five-star edge rusher. If some of those guys hit, they're better. Agreed. But like you said better may not mean anything in terms of record better may still mean five and seven or six and six so here's how i say you judge that because i think five and seven i'm not sure you're keeping billy napier i agree because at that point he's kind of shown you what he is. You can say always trending better, but like three 500 seasons, you're a 500 coach. Absolutely. That's what you are. Andy, is there, do you, I'll ask a question to you. Is there a week,
Starting point is 00:30:39 is there a world where Billy Napier gets the ax in the middle of the season? Do you have a schedule or do you have a record that he could go to where you say, oh, he's out? There's a way that happens. And so let's get to the floor because the floor is real bad. Right. The floor is three and nine. I completely agree with you. And look at just the schedule. My goodness.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Because here's the part I don't know that people understand. Like Miami, we've talked a lot about Miami. Their roster is good. Look at just the schedule. My goodness. Because here's the part I don't know that people understand. Like Miami, we've talked a lot about Miami. Their roster is good. Like there's no two ways about it. Their roster is good. We've not seen the on-field coaching for Mario Cristobal that guarantees they would come to the swamp and win, though. Like I'm not looking at that as a game that Miami just comes in and easily beats Florida. I'm looking at that as a game that miami just comes in and
Starting point is 00:31:25 and easily beats florida just i'm looking at that as a toss-up completely agreed so but miami probably has the better roster for sure texas a m is not a gimme at least it's at home for florida but it is not a gimme and if you if you go back to Mike Elko's first year at Duke, he Jedi mind trick that team into believing it was way better than it was. If he does that with the players at Texas A&M and look, we talked to Billy Lucci last week. It's not, it's not a completely stacked roster, but there are enough good players and who boy.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Yeah, no, I agree. I think if you look at that schedule, Andy, if they're one and two going into Mississippi State, if that team loses on the road to the new Mississippi State Bulldogs with Jeff Levy at the helm, I think I think that seat is absolute fire red hot. Oh, I think that seat is absolute fire red hot. Even if you survive that one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Let's say you lose two of the first four. Sure. If you lose two of the first four and then you lose to UCF, that's the ultimate. That's got to be it. For Florida, losing to UCF in the swamp would be as embarrassing as it can get. And I'm here to tell you guys, UCF is pretty good this year. 100%. KJ Jefferson came to the swamp last year with an Arkansas team that probably wasn't as good as this UCF team and won.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Yes. Andy, there's a world where that Florida team goes over in state, lose to Miami, lose to UCF, lose to Florida state. Very realistic. Yep. That's the tricky. That's the one that scares you at Tennessee. Look, if it were at the swamp, I'd be like, Hey, I'm picking Florida to win this game. Tennessee has whatever bad juju is going on in Gainesville. They can't figure it out. Right. But Tennessee has been able to beat them in Neyland.
Starting point is 00:33:28 So I, I'm not going to get, I'm not even giving Florida the grace on that one. And I think Kentucky is a big one too, because Kentucky has looked like the better team when they have played Florida in the Billy Napier era, dominated them last year. And then they didn't exactly dominate them the year before,
Starting point is 00:33:47 but they went down to the swamp and beat them. So it's- I completely agree. That's where it is. If they can be above 500, and then in those games at the end of the season, Texas, LSU, Ole Miss, Florida State, Georgia, and you're playing tight in some of those games.
Starting point is 00:34:06 You're playing above, punching above your weight. That's how Billy Napier makes it through this year. Agreed. And I think the kicker that we're not really talking about too is, let's say they do go on that two and two skid to start the year. Do they lose to UCF? I don't know. What does DJ Lagway do to this team?
Starting point is 00:34:23 Does it turn them into a completely different animal? Does it jumpstart the team, make them believe in something again? I don't know. But either way, I think if it gets to that point, I don't see Billy Napier as the head coach of this team at the end of the year. Yeah. And it's tough because people really seem to like Billy Napier. Right. And you know, you talk to people in the coaching community, everybody loves him. But if you are a 500 coach every year for three years,
Starting point is 00:34:53 there's a good chance. You're just a 500 coach. Right. At the end of the day, that's it's, it's about wins and losses. And if you can't produce wins, that's what happens.
Starting point is 00:35:01 All right, let's spin the wheel. Cody, where, where, where do we want to go pick up pick an sec town for me oh man you know baton rouge might be calling my name here andy it calls it often but it's calling it in particular oh in baton rouge yeah the baton all right it might be
Starting point is 00:35:19 la bears i might be hearing la bears calling my name maybe that's what it is casino but either way i i want to take a look at Baton Rouge, Andy. What do you got for me? So we had a long talk with Billy Embody on the show on Tuesday. And I was not jolted with much confidence for LSU's defense. I did not get that surge of confidence that I was hoping Billy might be able to give me. I do feel good about where their offense is at. I love, love, love, love their offensive line. Love the fact that they can probably run the ball too, along with having
Starting point is 00:35:56 a good quarterback ascension plan, having receivers who are going to come in. You know, you have guys who played behind Malik neighbors and Brian Thomas Jr. You also have also have like cj daniels you brought in from liberty who could be very good the ceiling is a cfp birth like a 10 and 2 at large cfp don't i'm not guaranteeing any wins in the cfp but the ceiling is getting in the floor is bad seven and five six and six i don't disagree i i think this is a team that had some serious issues on the defensive side of the ball in particular right they lose madhouse they bring in blake baker from mizzou love blake baker great guy great coach but the thing is and i think you know the college football community would agree with this statement, it's about the players.
Starting point is 00:36:51 You can bring all the coaches in the world that you want, but if you don't have the guys out on the field to do the job, it doesn't matter. I think they did do a little bit of a job on the defensive on the back end, you know, with Austin Osbury from Auburn. They bring in Jarden Gilbert from Texas A&M, but they've only brought in one corner in what was arguably the worst position group on the roster last year. They take Jair Brown from Ohio State. They bring in one interior defensive lineman and Gio Perez from Wisconsin.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Not for lack of trying. Not for lack of trying. Exactly. They lost three to the portal. Plus they lose Mason Smith and Makai Wingo to the NFL. And look, I understand trusting in a developmental approach. I do. They bring in some young, talented guys like Gabriel Relaford on the D-line.
Starting point is 00:37:36 They bring in Deshaun McBride to fill in the back half. But this is a group that needed help up front and at the corner position. And I just don't think that was addressed in this offseason and that's going to pay dividends in this 2024 season I just don't know what this defense looks like that is that that's my issue too and like I just can't I still can't, I still can't wrap my mind around LSU not having really good corners or right. At the very least a freshman class that has somebody who can jump in and be a starter right away and an effective player right away. Cause it felt like they had somebody every year like that for 10 years. Right? No question. And ironically, it's, it's something that has been LSU's calling card for so long,
Starting point is 00:38:26 like you touched on. And they really do have the coaches in place to mold these guys. Corey Raymond's back at LSU. He's the one that built that unit. Blake Baker's back. He was the linebackers coach a couple of years ago for LSU. Bo Davis is a great recruiter. When we talked about with Billy, we were talking about Bo Davis, the guys he inherited at texas he made them better like absolutely ireland murphy and and tavondre sweat playing under bo davis became very high draft picks i and at a program where they weren't producing that kind of draft pick before so perhaps he takes what he gets on the roster and turns them into that but
Starting point is 00:39:03 this is not that's not an immediate right now thing. That's a next year thing or two years. Exactly. That's, that's what I'm worried about is this season defensively. It almost looks, especially after whiffing at defensive tackle with guys like demonic Williams going other ways,
Starting point is 00:39:18 Phil ability going other ways. It almost feels like they've sort of phoned it in, in terms of the portal, especially pulling in guys on the defensive side of the ball. Offensively, to your point, Andy, I think they're going to be great. Now, I think it's going to be a complete 180 from what we looked at last year, with the Heisman winning Jaden Daniels and airing it out to Brian Thomas and Malik Nabors all over the place.
Starting point is 00:39:41 I think Caleb Jackson is going to be the engine that runs that offense. Plus they have, like you mentioned, they have two potential first round picks on the offensive line and Will Campbell and Emory Jones. I think they're going to run their tails off and it's going to look a lot like the early 2000 LSU teams in terms of offense, where they're going to run, they're going to run the ball and they're going to pound the ball 25, 30 plus times a game. And hopefully that helps keep the defense off the field. Well, and on the defensive side, what do we see from Harold Perkins? You know, what did he get out of him?
Starting point is 00:40:17 As a freshman, it was see ball, get ball, and he was a very impactful player. He was not as impactful as a sophomore because they're trying to mold him into an off-ball linebacker. Right. I think at this point, you don't worry about what he projects as in the league. Like just have him do the thing that,
Starting point is 00:40:35 that creates the most havoc. Yeah. You're preaching to the choir, Andy, your job as college football coaches, your job is not to develop and send these guys to the NFL and lose games. That's not how this works. Your job is to win football games. The NFL part will come with it, right? Like that comes with it. But if you're saying, hey, we're doing this for the betterment
Starting point is 00:41:00 of his professional development, that's not what you're there to do. You're there to win. And if putting Harold Perkins in a two-point stand, standing off the edge is what helps you win games, you do that. I agree. I agree. So that a lot of wide variation for LSU. Let's head to the loveliest village on the plains we talked about auburn a little bit earlier when we were talking about alabama this is a fascinating team to me uh and i will tell you couple decisions couple rule changes make me think differently about auburn first big decision hugh freeze says you know what philip montgomery it was nice but I'm gonna call the place because it's what I'm good at at the same time the rules change and now the coach can talk to the quarterback in his helmet and basically like throw it to that guy Hugh Freeze with the ability to say throw it to that
Starting point is 00:41:58 guy between plays and be heard by his quarterback but but not by the defense is an advantage. Yes. Andy, is it, is it bad that I think this Auburn team's going to be really good? Like, no, there's a world in which Auburn,
Starting point is 00:42:17 they could finish nine and three. And I know that still feels like really Cody, they're not going to win double digit games but last year this is a team that finished six and seven they lost to Maryland in the Music City Bowl very bizarre year looking at it right they lose to New Mexico State in November then they follow that game up with a three-point loss in the Iron Bowl to a top 10 Bama team they lose to Georgia by a touchdown yes they lose to Georgia by a touchdown. Yes, they lose to Georgia by a touchdown. They lose to Ole Miss by a touchdown, who are all three teams that are potential SEC championship contenders this year. And I think they have only gotten better in terms
Starting point is 00:42:59 of offense and defensively. The thing that's going to move this train for them is Peyton Thorne. Now, what does he look like in year two for them? I'm not entirely sure, right? 60% completions last year, 16 touchdowns to 11 picks. Not great, but he is a dynamic player with the ball in his hands, right? He can run the ball a little bit, but the two guys really in particular that I think sort of changed the game for this Auburn offense are Cam Coleman and Keandre Lambert-Smith. Those two guys force defenses to account for them, no matter where they're at lined up. But this is an Auburn team that can run out of 12 personnel, 21 personnel,
Starting point is 00:43:41 and have two guys out wide and still throw the ball comfortably. So I think there's a world in which Auburn could end up sniffing a 10 win season. Well, and when they figured out that Peyton Thorne was better on the move, right? Is when everything got better for them last agreed, agreed. But the difference was it was Hugh freeze reluctant to step in and do a lot of play calling because it was philip montgomery's terminology now it is hugh freeze's offense it is hugh freeze calling plays and whatever you want to say about hugh freeze he has always been an excellent play caller who came up with excellent game plans and punched above his weight as a play caller.
Starting point is 00:44:28 So you add Cam Coleman, who is a dynamic, dynamic, and Keandre Lambert Smith, I don't know how dynamic he is. He was good at Penn State. But the thing is, he doesn't have to be Superman because Cam Coleman might be. And if he is as good as we think he's going to be that just makes keandre lambert smith more dangerous because he is a good receiver and then you put him opposite this other guy who a defense is terrified of what do you do yep and even talking about those two, right? You add in Robert Lewis from the portal who caught 70 balls for almost a thousand yards last year, Georgia state. He's going to play
Starting point is 00:45:10 in the slot. Sam Jackson, you bring in from Cal who was their starting quarterback last year, but he comes in at receiver. And then another guy that people aren't even really talking about. I was talking to one of my buddies in that personnel department. He was like, yes, I fully agree. Cam Coleman deserves all the love that he's getting. We still signed a dude in Perry Thompson. This is a guy that was an industry top 50 national prospect. He hasn't shown up yet, which is why he hasn't gotten as much love as Cam Coleman. But that's another freakazoid that they're going to line up out wide.
Starting point is 00:45:43 There's four potential dudes in that receiver room that I don't think Auburn fans have seen in quite some time. Yeah, it's going to be fun to watch because I don't think we've seen anything like this at Auburn receiver-wise. Agreed. I mean, Duke Williams and Sammy Coates really were the last two the last duo that kind of really scared you and it's been a while so yeah I think the Auburn situation is is fascinating because I think their floor is six and six like they
Starting point is 00:46:20 they're probably as good or better than they were last year. Agreed. Yes, I completely agree. And I think the schedule, you know, is also in their favor, right? I think they start this season off one, two, three, I mean four and O pretty easily. They have five home games to start the season closing with only that stretch closed with Oklahoma in its first sec road game. Yep. A hundred percent. And I think, you know, that little skid in the middle is tough, right? That stretch closed with Oklahoma in its first SEC road game. Yep, 100%. And I think that little skid in the middle is tough.
Starting point is 00:46:48 You go Oklahoma at home, you have Georgia on the road, Missouri on the road, Kentucky on the road. But you have the potential to finish that season off too with your final four games, three being at home. You go 3-1 there, and who knows what Alabama looks like at that point in the season. But I don't see a world in which Auburn doesn't go to a bowl game yeah I I don't either and I think this is what we thought when they hired Hugh Freeze this is the the difference between
Starting point is 00:47:18 Brian Harsin and Hugh Freeze like Hugh Freeze understands you've got to get some of those difference makers on the field. Like you have to sign a Cam Coleman that you can't just hope you're going to create a big, tough, you know, a bunch of big, tough guys who you've developed over years. You need to do that too, but you've got to have difference makers. So I think we've seen this song and dance with Hugh Freeze before. I think he's doing it again. Yep. Yep. I get shades of, uh, of 2014 at Ole Miss right now. So speaking of Ole Miss, let's, let's go to Oxford because the expectations are as high in Oxford as they have ever been. Absolutely. This is a team that won 11 games last year, and we are expecting them to probably make the playoff. And that's why, as their ceiling, I'm saying not only make the playoff, but win a playoff game or two. I'm not ready to go national title as their ceiling, but I definitely feel like they can get into the playoff, win some games.
Starting point is 00:48:24 And maybe if you can win some games, maybe you can win them all. But this is the rare occasion where somebody, it feels like, did improve their line of scrimmage dramatically in the transfer portal, and nobody ever does that. Right, and I think I will go as far to say, Andy, I think this is a team that can win a national title. And I think that starts offensively with Jackson Dart. You know, this is somebody that's going into his third season as the starter for Ole Miss. Offensively,
Starting point is 00:48:56 this team goes where he goes. If he can take care of the football, continue to be a consistent chain mover for the Rebels, they have a chance to genuinely be the scariest offensive unit in the country. And that's a team that lost Quensha and Judkins. I totally understand. But the guys that they brought in at that position, Logan Diggs from LSU, who was the primary back, Henry Parrish, who actually signed with Ole Miss out of high school, transferred to Miami, led them in rushing for two years, and then they bring him back to Ole Miss. And they also sign a guy named Jacory Croskett Merritt, who had nearly 1,200 yards on the ground and scored 17 times last year for New Mexico. They're going to approach that room with running back.
Starting point is 00:49:39 You haven't even mentioned Ulysses Bentley, by the way. Exactly. They have so many weapons on that side of the ball. Plus they reaffirm the offensive line. They landed some of the biggest fish in the portal on the defensive line and Walter Nolan and a Prince William on me, Ellen. I don't see this team struggling in too many games here. When you look at the schedule, I think they start this year, they start 2024 super hot. I think they end up going, what is it, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6-0 at minimum? Yeah. And then you have your tough stretch.
Starting point is 00:50:17 You go to LSU on the road. You face Oklahoma at home, which could be a win. Arkansas on the road. I don't see this team losing more than two games in the regular season. There's a world where Georgia shows up to Oxford and Ole Miss is undefeated a hundred percent and wins, but there's a world where Ole Miss wins that game. Yeah. I I've got the floor for them at eight and four and that's abject disaster. If things go completely bottom out, Completely bottom out.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Yeah, because they do play some good teams, and they play some teams like we talked about, like the Florida situation when they go to Gainesville right after they play Georgia. That could be a little bit tricky. But if Florida's bad at that time, like let's say they've already fallen off or hit a really bad stretch, then no, it's not going to be tough. You're going to to win that game, but like, we don't know what Oklahoma is going to be
Starting point is 00:51:09 LSU. We just said, there's a high variability there. And then LSU may also be one of those teams that one day they can beat anybody in the conference and one day they can lose anybody in the conference. So they're, they're a tough one to peg, but I just, yeah, I think you're right. And you mentioned the running game at Ole Miss. One of the reasons running games can be so good. So Trey Harris is awesome. A healthy juice wells. And we granted, we didn't see that last year.
Starting point is 00:51:36 He was hurt in the spring. Right. But if you have a healthy juice wells and Trey Harris and pre-score and they're tight in, There's a terrifying passing game. No question. And the quarterback can run the rock too. That's the thing is like you have to account for Jackson Dart's legs too. And I just don't see a world in which Ole Miss isn't in the SEC championship. Am I crazy for saying that? I just feel like when you look at it on paper, Jackson Dark comes back.
Starting point is 00:52:09 He's one of the most experienced players, not in the SEC, but in the entire country in terms of reps at quarterback. I just feel like this Ole Miss team, this is what they've built. This is exactly, this is the moment for the Ole Miss Rebels. And if they don't do it here I don't know when they will no divisions you're not playing Alabama right you have to play Georgia yes but this is a manageable schedule I think you're right I think Atlanta should be a realistic goal and I imagine that's what they're talking about internally in Oxford let's
Starting point is 00:52:46 talk about one of the teams they do play because this one's a one of the bigger mysteries for me and it's one of those that depending on how the season goes we we may have a very different opinion of of this coaching staff sure once we get out of it because Oklahoma enters the SEC in a year where they're coming off of a double digit win season, but they had to completely rebuild their offensive line. Texas is coming in in a year where they are feeling great about their roster look like they compete with anybody in the league.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Oklahoma is a big mystery right now defensively probably as deep as they've been in years. Absolutely. They love their quarterback in Jackson Arnold. They let Dylan Gabriel walk. I understand why. But that offensive line loses Tyler Guyton, a first round pick a tackle, loses Walter Rouse, who came from Stanford, did a good job for them.
Starting point is 00:53:42 And they've just had to kind of piece it together, are they going to be able to hold up? Yeah. They also lose a guy named Caden Green to Mizzou, who also transfers away from that offensive line. And you know what the worst possible thing you can do for a young quarterback who has only a as he started a game one he started a bowl game he had a lot of turnovers I that's a actually that's not true he also started the
Starting point is 00:54:13 BYU game sure but that's a recipe for disaster in my opinion you're fielding borderline a completely new offensive line unit now granted they have a great skill room. They really do. I think they added some firepower in Deion Burks. You got guys like Nick Anderson, who's going to be a great player for them. They added some reliable tight end options and Jake Roberts from Baylor. The Bauer Sharp kid from Southeastern is a great athlete. The running back room is still very strong, right? Gavin Sawchuck, you get Javante Barnes back. They have Caleb Hicks, a very dynamic group back there. But none of that helps if the offensive line can't protect
Starting point is 00:54:51 or move defenders off the ball. And I get extremely worried. I've seen this song and dance before where you have a highly touted quarterback. You know, all the hype in the world. They've shown some good things in the preseason. They've shown some good things in a prior season. But when you're the guy that has to go out there, play one, and you're going on the road in the SEC in some of the most hostile environments in the world, if you get beat up early, there's a world in which Jackson Arnold should be seeing ghosts and that rarely goes away. So I think the way this team operates
Starting point is 00:55:27 out the gate is extremely vital to this team's success down the line. That Tennessee game, that game at Auburn, those are critical. I think you got to split those. I got to, you got to split those going. And then you're're probably probably four and one going into texas sure you beat texas last year like i'm not i'm not handing texas a win against oklahoma so my floor is actually still only six and six like i don't think there's a world they don't make that way too but my ceiling is cfp birth and i believe anything in between because I don't know. But my question is, and this is where it gets interesting. If they're six and six, if they're seven and five, what do you do about Brent Venables? How do you feel about Brent Venables? If you are
Starting point is 00:56:17 jokingly own their athletic director, because you are Oklahoma, like that ain't good enough. And you would have had two seasons out of three of ain't good enough. Right. And I think if you're Brent Venables, the way you're pitching this is to say, hey, look, we got some unfortunate luck on the offensive line. You know, Tyler Guyton leaves. We lost Caden Green. And we're starting a young quarterback. We didn't have help for him. I can go get that,
Starting point is 00:56:46 but you have to commit to spending money in the portal and landing guys in the trenches, which we all know costs a lot of money. They did just do with Dominic Williams. Sure. Correct. And that's on the defensive side, right? My point being, if you aren't willing to protect your quarterback of the future, then what are we doing? And I think that's the message that Brent Invitables has to send and say, hey, if I can protect this guy, the five-star talent will show up on the field. And I think he's going to be able to buy himself at least one more year. And if he doesn't fulfill that promise, he's done so. Well, and that's the thing, as long as they, even if they're seven and five,
Starting point is 00:57:27 as long as they're playing people tough, he's fine. He's fine. You just, you can't, you can't get bullied. You can't get blown out. And, you know, they have that blowout loss to Texas a couple of years ago. I don't see that happening again. I think they've built their roster to the point that that's not going to happen. So that's the part he, yeah, if he can just get through this, I think the future is actually pretty bright, but this is a, this is not how you want to come
Starting point is 00:57:56 into the league. You do not want to come into the league having to rebuild your offensive line. So a lot of variability for Oklahoma this year. While we're on the subject of the newbies, let's let's go to the other newbie. Let's head down to my neck of the woods here, Andy. Let's go to Austin, Texas. So look, we don't have to beat around the bush here. The ceiling for Texas is a national title. They should expect to make the playoff. They should expect to play for the SEC championship. Is the
Starting point is 00:58:23 schedule super easy not super easy but i'd say they got a pretty good draw it's favorable i i agree i think it's well they chose to go to michigan so that's that's on them uh and then and then georgia coming to them is is great because you get that marquee game yep it's the weekend of the F1 race too. So God bless you if you're trying to maneuver around Austin that week, but you don't have Alabama. You don't have, you know, LSU. You don't have, it's not as challenging a schedule as it could be. So this is, this is a good spot for Texas to be in because this roster, is this the best roster in the SEC it's them or
Starting point is 00:59:06 Georgia probably it's I was gonna say Alabama Georgia I think Georgia might have the case in terms of talent but to your point the schedule set up for them to make a serious title run again the only true road game that they have I think that's an actual battle on paper, is against Michigan in week two. And even then, they're replacing a ton of production. They're breaking in a new starting quarterback and a new head coach. I could see them losing to Georgia at home just because the Georgia team's so damn good this year. But realistically, this is a team that should lose two games max. I think this is a team that's probably going to end up finishing 11-1 in the regular season. Let's say they split Michigan or Georgia.
Starting point is 00:59:48 They're going to compete for SEC championship year one in a new conference, and they're going to set the tone early and basically put the SEC on notice and say, hey, guys, we can play with you guys. Now, I do think a big factor in that though, Andy is in the trenches. Yes. Right. I think offensively, yes, you have Kelvin Banks and that's great. I do actually think that offensive unit with guys like DJ Campbell and, um, I think they're going to be able to actually move some bodies up front. It's on the defensive side of
Starting point is 01:00:22 the ball. I get very worried byron murphy and tavondre sweat going to the league i will say it is very helpful that they're able to rotate in some experienced guys like alfred collins and vernon broughton and they beefed up and got bill norton and uh tiolla oh man i'm gonna butcher this name tia oali savea from arizona that's my best attempt but very nice i think those guys actually help them out because they're able to rotate more bodies along the interior. Plus, I have hardly seen anyone talk about this. I know we mentioned the portal and impact players.
Starting point is 01:00:57 They brought in an absolute weapon of a pass rusher in Trey Moore out of UTSA. This is a guy that had 14 sacks in 17 and a half TFLs last year. Like this is a guy that's a freak show coming off the edge, absolute plug and play, pair him up with Anthony Hill back there at linebacker. Or Ethan Burke's not a bad pass rusher either. Absolutely. And you have the senior veteran and former cinco ranch cougar david benda at the linebacker corps they have some veteran presence on this defense this is a team that's going to make waves this year and i think i hate to say this andy but this is a team that i think can justify all this texas's back noise like this is real this team is real and they bring in as
Starting point is 01:01:46 isaiah bond who right everybody remember caught the fourth and 31 touchdown pass at auburn for alabama last year but also amari nye black from alabama who i think if you're looking if you were looking for someone who could plug in and do what jatavian sanders was doing for you exactly physically he fits the bill. Yes. And I mean, yes, they lose Xavier Worthy and Adonai Mitchell as well, but they brought in Isaiah Bond, like you mentioned. They brought in Silas Bolden as well from Oregon State.
Starting point is 01:02:14 He led that team in receiving last year. And they bring in former four-star Matthew Golden from Houston. Yes, you lose Jonathan Brooks. That's okay. You only have former five-star C.star CJ Baxter in there to replace. That production is going to get replaced by very talented players. So I think Texas is going to be good again, and they're going to make a run. I don't see a world in which they don't.
Starting point is 01:02:39 What are we saying for our floor for Texas? I originally had eight and four, but the more we talk about it, I think I'm going to have to go to nine and three. That's where I'm at. I think nine and three, I think you lose Michigan. And if you're, if we're bottoming out, right, I think you lose Michigan and Georgia. And then there's a world in which maybe Oklahoma upsets you again, right? Like maybe there's something where Oklahoma has your number and you get to nine and three, but that's really it on paper. I think Andy. I think so too. I, yeah. And it's, it's crazy because we're only a year removed from me saying,
Starting point is 01:03:11 I need to see this. I need to see Texas stop losing the games that always loses. And they did. They, they, the thing about it, everybody's like on three is just in the bag for Texas. Like, look, here's the thing. I was as critical of Texas as a person could possibly be for about five years. But if you suddenly stop doing the things that are holding you back, they make draft picks again. Absolutely. They didn't lose. The K-State game last year was a prime example of a game Texas would have lost in previous years. 100%. No question. No question. And they didn't. To your point, I mean, they're able to find these players.
Starting point is 01:03:49 And like you mentioned, they had 11 guys drafted in the 24 draft. That's more than they've had in the last three years combined. Yeah. There's something about. And they're going to have eight or nine next year. Yes. Including at least one first rounder. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Absolutely. And at, at left tackle, no mind. So it's only one of the most important positions on the field bit. And they have their quarterback. Who's also going to be a first round pick is arguably a top three quarterback in the country.
Starting point is 01:04:19 This team is built to win. And I, I can't imagine. By the way, if that quarterback doesn't work the the next guy might be pretty good too the other guy's pretty good too yeah like losing it over the spring game but they're deep everywhere borderline everywhere let's talk about the other deep everywhere team in the sec the georgia bull, winners of two of the last three national titles.
Starting point is 01:04:46 If there'd been a 12-team playoff last year, would Georgia have won the national title? I think there's a good chance they would have. This is a hard schedule though, Cody. They start with Clemson. They're at Kentucky. They're at Alabama. They play Auburn obviously every year. They're at Texas. They get Tennessee late in the season. There's not a lot of layups for the Bulldogs, even though I think they are probably as much praise as we just lavished on Texas in the trenches, Georgia offensive and defensive line, that's the best in the league. Absolutely. They are the bar at this point. And I think we talk about worst case. What does this Georgia team look like?
Starting point is 01:05:33 I think it's even tough to imagine it happening. But you look at the guys they lose in terms of skill and offense. You have to replace Brock Bowers. You lose both your leading rushers and maybe carson beck isn't someone that's dynamic enough to carry the offense on his back for the entire reason or excuse me for the entire season maybe they slip up and lose to alabama week four maybe they go into austin face new sec foe in texas in week seven that could go either way they go on the road to Ole
Starting point is 01:06:05 Miss two weeks later. And the SEC really, really screwed them on the schedule, though. Georgia fans enjoy 2025. Maybe the most fun home schedule ever. No doubt. But I still think Andy, we're still sitting here at worst. And I don't even know if this is entirely likely. at worst Georgia wins nine games I think I had eight and four because I I thought losing Clemson might be a possibility but the more I think about it it's it's I don't think they're going to yeah but obviously the ceiling is a national championship the ceiling is three national championships in four years um you look at what they brought in the transfer portal at receiver i think they they got better benjamin
Starting point is 01:06:50 yarosik at tight end from stanford if you were to look for someone in the country who most physically and skill set wise resembles brock bowers that's him and so you're gonna try to do a lot of the same things with him plus Oscar delt maybe comes up and and ascends lost and lucky one of the great SEC Titan names it's SEC Titan to trust fund give me 13 personality just give it to me just line them all up out there that's what I want yeah and their their offensive line is still going to be great tate ratledge you know hold it down best podcaster in in college football i i i think i think they're going to be a lot of fun i can't wait to see them in these games i can't wait to see them really get challenged pretty frequently so i had that yeah i had their floor at eight and four i don't think they're
Starting point is 01:07:41 i think it's very minimal chance that that would happen i think going toward the ceiling of national title is far more likely and so there's george bulldogs yeah i think most likely scenario in my opinion is it's a team that loses one game maybe in the regular season and they're still in the playoff there's no world in which george is not in the playoff this year all right let us go up to knoxville tennessee very intriguing team and this is one where i i tennessee is one of these old missus one of these cody i i explain to people as divisions go away in these various leagues like in the big ten the SEC. They're going away this year. Schedule draw means a lot.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Absolutely. Tennessee's schedule draw is not Georgia's schedule draw. It is not Florida's schedule draw. It is much closer to Ole Miss's schedule draw. And therefore, I am making Tennessee's ceiling a playoff berth. Yes. And you know what ceiling a playoff berth. Yes. And you know what helps a playoff run? Having a generational quarterback.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Nico Amalieva has the chance to bring Tennessee back into the playoff conversation and light up the scoreboard like we saw when Hendon Hooker was taking snaps for the Vols. He was the number one player in the country four on three for a reason. He has elite arm talent. He's a dynamic athlete. for the volves he was the number one player in the country four on three for a reason he has a lead arm talent he's a dynamic athlete he's got all the tools that josh heupel's looking for at the quarterback position plus they were able to give him some help via the portal you know bringing in
Starting point is 01:09:15 starting left tackle lance heard from lsu a dynamic wide out and chris brazile from tulin he was one of the most sought after receivers in the country. And they gave him a nice little safety net, the tight end position and holding stays from Notre Dame. I think this offense at Tennessee is going to look a lot more similar to the one that we're used to seeing from Josh Hypel. And I think that starts with Nico Amalieva. Yes, he's a baby. He's going to have some growing pains, but if there is anyone that was built for it, and if there's anyone that could help cater him to making less mistakes, it's Josh Hypel in this Tennessee offense. And here's the thing that they're going to have this year that, well, a couple of things they're going to have this year they didn't have last year with Joe Milton. Improvisational ability. There was none of that with Joe Milton. You called it and he's going to run it and that's how it's going to go.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Nico, much more like Hennon Hook hooker when things are breaking down around him, he can figure some stuff out. Right. Also true RPO read option. Joe Milton did not love the idea of the read option. Did not love having, and this is like when you talk to quarterbacks who run this, when you talk to running backs who run in these schemes,
Starting point is 01:10:31 it's instinctual, especially on the quarterback side and you can teach it but a lot of it is they have it or they don't like connor shot south carolina was probably the best read option instincts of anybody i've ever seen like he didn't pull the ball unless he was going to gain nine yards. And Nico has good instincts, which allows you to do a lot more. Allows you to really handicap the defense a little bit because that guy's got to make a decision. That guy being red has to make a decision. And if he legitimately has to make a decision, you don't have to block him. That means you block somebody else. And I know we talk about this offense in Tennessee and that's
Starting point is 01:11:09 obviously going to be a huge piece of the puzzle for them moving forward this season but we haven't even mentioned the best player on this team let alone this player in the country and James Pierce getting after the quarterback you know they lose a key piece on the other side of that in Tyler Barron. They lose a couple other guys in Tamarian McDonald, but they picked up Jermon McCoy from Oregon State, who I think is a plug-and-play starter at corner. This defense just needs to get Nico back on the field. Also, Keenan Peely at Mike Linebacker,
Starting point is 01:11:42 who was supposed to be there starting Mike Linebacker last year, got hurt in camp. He's a BYU transfer. He's like 37 years old. No, but he's a grown man. Right, but that's the whole deal, right? For this defense, the goal is to just bend but don't break. Get that offense back on the field.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Cause some turnovers. Give the offense some short fields. Because if you do that, there's no other option but for Tennessee to score. And so I think Tennessee might have themselves in a few shoot it's probably 11 and one absolute best case so yeah you're either losing at Georgia or losing to Alabama and you're beating everybody else yes and I think maybe more realistically it's 10 and 2 maybe they lose to Georgia maybe they lose to Bama or they lose to Georgia lose to Oklahoma but either way you slice it this is a team that's absolutely sniffing an SEC championship and a playoff berth. It's a reason to get excited.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Their floor, I think it's probably 8-4. I agree. I just think Josh Heupel brings so much continuity to this offense. Yes, it's Nico. Yes, he's getting his feet wet as a starter, but Josh Heupel, and especially with that communication that they're able to have in this offense, and his ability to improvise and make things happen and just let him be himself,
Starting point is 01:13:18 I don't see them making a ton of mistakes offensively, even for a young quarterback. No, I think they're going to be they're going to be very interesting to watch and nico is going to change the dynamics that offense so much totally they they don't have a game like missouri last year i think that's that's what they avoid that that that's probably not going to happen uh and you look at the schedule like who would do that to them? You know, maybe in Oklahoma could do that to them in Norman,
Starting point is 01:13:48 but it won't happen this year because they're just not going to be that type of team that can't score. Like they won't have those games. Speaking of Missouri, let's talk about the Tigers. They're coming off a huge season, but they lose a lot of talent. A lot of them. Darius Perkins, Chris Abrams, Drain. Ennis Rakeshaw. Ennis Rakeshaw, yep.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Yeah, I mean, defensive line, Darius Robinson, is that his name? Yeah, I keep saying Darius Robinson is who I'm talking about. Cody Schrader. I mean, they're losing a running back production on both sides, but again, schedule draw matters. Absolutely. Also, these guys have been good in the portal.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Luther burden. One of those dynamic receivers in the country comes back. Williams and wary, a highly sought after defensive lineman in state guy is, is joining the team like you mentioned that you know they got a an offensive lineman from oklahoma that they liked a lot so green's gonna be a player now they've done a good job rebuilding reloading however you want to call it and then you look at the schedule and it certainly seems like this is a team that could win double digit
Starting point is 01:15:07 games again, where, where they've got to figure it out is, is, you know, I don't even think like you don't have to beat Alabama. They go to Tuscaloosa, you do not have to beat Alabama, but you need to beat Auburn. You need to go to college station and win. Yes. And if you do that, I think there's a really good chance you're in the playoff. I think so too, and I think it helps having continuity of quarterback again. I think Brady Cook being back is one of the top quarterbacks in the conference. I think one of the biggest things that outside of the personnel that they're missing on the defensive side of the ball, losing Blake Baker hurts
Starting point is 01:15:41 because he's a guy that knows how to scheme players up and i think losing some of the starters up front make things a little interesting on that side of the ball but i don't see this offense slowing down by any means especially looking at that schedule i think another game to throw in there that could be a toss-ups oklahoma at home yeah but to your point andy i think this is a team that maybe loses what three games this year I had eight and four as the floor it just you know if the defense does not come around and right because again you lost some really impactful players and your coordinator but I don't think it's much worse than that I think and if you think about where they were a couple of years ago, the idea that the floor exactly for Missouri in the sec,
Starting point is 01:16:31 an sec that includes Texas and Oklahoma, that the floor is eight and four. It's a pretty phenomenal. Yeah, absolutely. It's a pretty big jump for them. Yeah. I think,
Starting point is 01:16:44 you know, Columbia sort of has this expectation now where eli drinkwits has instilled that and i think he's showing it on the recruiting trail he's showing it in the portal he's showing it in the post-game handshake you know that these guys are we stand on business exactly like these guys are really about that life and I think this season is going to prove that once again so let's move from Missouri to a team that I think they were in very similar places a few years ago and I think the difference between this team in Missouri is Missouri gets the Luther Burden types and keeps them, signs the Williams and Wary types.
Starting point is 01:17:28 We're going to talk Kentucky because I look at Kentucky and I think, you know what? Kentucky's going to be a pretty good team this year. They got Brock Vandegrift transferred from Georgia to start at quarterback. They got Gerald Mincy transferred from Tennessee to start at tackle. They got J'mon Dumas-Johnson transfer from Georgia to start at linebacker. Yep. Here's the thing. They're going to lose those teams.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Like that's the problem. Yep. They're going to beat the teams they're supposed to be probably, but they're not quite good enough to beat those other ones. Yes. River. Could you do me a favor and throw that schedule up for me, please?
Starting point is 01:18:04 Because I think you look at this schedule. Andy, tell me if I'm wrong. They could go defeated on the road this year. They could. At Florida, at Tennessee, at Texas. That floor is the easiest, but the other ones are, oh boy. That is a brutal slate. I think there's a world in which this team can pretty comfortably lose
Starting point is 01:18:27 five games this year. And I say comfortably lose in the sense where you look at the matchup and you're like, well, they weren't supposed to win that one. And I think there's five games on this schedule where you say that. This team could go 500, Andy. I think that's very realistic.'s my floor now here's the thing when Mark Stoops was hired the idea of six and six being the floor at Kentucky right was tremendous like that's what we're hiring you for that's the whole point of this thing the
Starting point is 01:18:59 ceiling of this team is nine and three when Mark Stoops was hired the idea of a Kentucky team going nine and three that's amazing absolutely but now Mark idea of a kentucky team going nine and three that's amazing absolutely but now mark stoops gets paid as much as the best coaches in the sec well no kirby smart's making 13 million now so sure we'll take him out of the equation mark stoops is paid as well as everybody else he's paid as well as lane kiffin he's paid as well like he was hoarded by texas a m their regents revolted. He ends up staying at Kentucky. But this is the blessing and the curse of Mark Stoops. Your floor is so much higher than it's ever been. Yep. But he has not raised your ceiling as much as, say, Eli Drinkwitz has raised Missouri's
Starting point is 01:19:39 or Lane Kiffin has raised Ole Miss's. Right. I like to use the analogy that some teams use when they talk about power running backs right you need four yards they'll get you four yards you need five yards they'll get you four yards so they're sort of living in this world of purgatory that i i don't know if they're ever going to be able to escape and yes they bring in someone like Brock Vandegrift, but even if he's clicking at all cylinders, I don't know if I see a team that wins more than 10 games. And if that's the case, they would be scratching and clawing for a playoff berth.
Starting point is 01:20:17 But even then, if they get in the playoff, Andy, I don't see a team that can realistically make a run in a national title, let alone an SEC's easy that's fine look if kentucky can make the playoff they're celebrating a damn party like that's fine exactly like it's it but it's it's just like anything else south carolina is a good example of this they were so bad for so long lost to clemson so much steve spurrier comes in they have a five game winning streak against clemson they win 11 games three years in a row and all of a sudden they start thinking they're a national
Starting point is 01:20:48 power and forget they're south carolina and then when they have to go back to being south carolina you you just can't handle it so the question i i feel like kentucky fans have been very they they've been level-headed about this. They've not turned into those crazy, everything has to move toward a national championship. They've been realistic. But at what point do they start to say, all right, where's the next step? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Andy, I'll ask you, we talk about the floor and the ceiling, right? It's pretty wide for them. Tell me if i'm wrong do you see them steering more towards the floor than the ceiling this year do you think i think i think they wind up right in the middle eight and four or seven and five like yeah because that's the thing mark stoops is a good coach he's a solid steady coach who has brought in solid, steady, good players. They're well coached. They will have one game where they get completely outclassed,
Starting point is 01:21:50 probably like Georgia. They'll also have a game where they play perfectly and outclass somebody else, like the Florida game last year. You're going to have those. That makes Kentucky-Auburn very interesting it also makes kentucky south carolina very interestingly september 7th south carolina kentucky game in lexington is a massive vibes game yeah right right absolutely i was gonna say that loses that is like oh god oh right right right, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:25 I, I will say I feel bad for the Lexington folks only because their road games are so good this year. So I really feel bad for the fans that have to stay for the home slate, but I sure hope they get a good crow. Whips back around in 25. They're going to be fine. True. All right.
Starting point is 01:22:40 I just mentioned the Gamecocks. Let's talk to Gamecocks because this is a, this is a, an interesting year for Shane Beamer. And I feel like South Carolina gets heavily invested when they overachieve and then they'll step back and then they get into the situation where they've now overinvested, but now they need to do something different. So this is a big split for them. I got their ceiling at 8-4 and their floor at four and eight i like it i like it like they got some good like nick harbour if nick harbour
Starting point is 01:23:13 were to develop into the potential player we we thought he would be as a recruit right like how would you even stop that what would you do about that lenora seller's gonna start shane beamer said that basically or said he's the number one qb coming out i think he said yeah i think he said yeah yeah so but they got and they've got other good players that they found like nick nick eminwury at safety it was a local product that that they they unearthed they've got good players there but it doesn't feel like they have a consistently good roster right and Andy this might be this might be my hottest take of the season but I think we're looking at a Lenore's sellers dark horse sort of Heisman now whoa I we are
Starting point is 01:24:04 so high on him at on three right like? Like we, we were, we believed in the talent. We saw the physical makeup, the athletic ability, the arm talent, the ability to push the ball vertically. Even if they don't have some of the pieces back there, I will say they did bring in Raheem Sanders to carry the running back. Yeah, absolutely. I think that two headed monster in that backfield is going to be scary scary and i think they know what they have in a guy like nicholas harbour right those if those three guys are the only ones that touch the ball on this offense i'm okay because i believe that lenora sellers is going to be so much of a game changer they were raving about him even before he like took a snap of spring
Starting point is 01:24:48 like this is somebody that they were saying oh my gosh this kid though with the rec specs is an absolute dude back here at quarterback and i think this is okay let me ask you this so they bring in robbie ashford as a transfer sure is that is that a them saying lenora sellers is such a dynamic runner that we're going to bring in a backup exactly so that we don't have to change very much 100 that's this yeah that's the safety net i think robby ashford is absolutely the safety net so but it's basically them declaring this offense the quarterback's going to run quite a bit oh it's going to be predicated through lenora sellers on on his legs, through his arm. I'm very excited for the SEC and the country, really, to see this guy play quarterback
Starting point is 01:25:33 because he is exactly what NFL teams are looking for at the next level. He is literally built to carry the load for this team. And I think this guy is going to have, it's going to be a tough act. Don't get me wrong, but I think we're going to see Lenore Sellers put down some gaudy numbers this year. That schedule is hard. It is. It is hard. They're at Oklahoma. They get Missouri and Columbia. Well, they would play Missouri and Columbia no matter what but uh right at their Columbia. Uh Ole Miss comes to Williams-Brice Stadium. LSU comes to Williams-Brice Stadium. They're in Tuscaloosa. Uh they're at Clemson this
Starting point is 01:26:16 year. They're at Kentucky. This is a very difficult schedule and but what you're saying saying what you're describing is you are leaning toward that ceiling i suggested i think so and i think it's just because teams are not comfortable in defending things they have not seen and i don't believe lenore's seller like honestly lenore seller's game reminds me a lot of anth Richardson. And to that point... Six and six is a starter in the SEC? Exactly. To that point, do they win a lot of games?
Starting point is 01:26:52 Who knows? But is this guy going to be an absolute spectacle to watch for everyone else in the country? 100%. Oh, cannot wait. All right. Me too. One of the teams that South Carolina has to play is Texas A&M.
Starting point is 01:27:06 And so Texas A&M is a mystery to me because it is not, like, we got to put out of our minds that they had the number one recruiting class in the country two years ago. Because, one, that class was so ridiculously unbalanced from a positional standpoint that it almost doesn't matter but two it's this it's dissipated as jimbo fisher's tenure faltered you know some of those guys washed out some of them went somewhere else that said there's still some very talented players on this roster and a healthy conor wigman
Starting point is 01:27:48 is a very interesting prospect i i agree and i think the other piece of that too is colin klein i'm gonna call plays you know they're going from this old school pro style offense that jimbo's running and it's gonna be morphed into this modern scoring machine. And you have to hope, if you're an Aggie fan, that Colin Kline can work his magic with Connor Wegman, like he sort of showed you with the guy at K-State in Avery Johnson a little bit. And you sort of say, hey man, this is an athletic guy taking snaps for us. He can make defenders miss in a phone booth. He can be a power runner. He's a guy that has the arm talent to make every throw at the college level.
Starting point is 01:28:36 And does Colin Klein get the most out of Connor Wegman? I don't know. But that, to me, is what's going to decide if texas a m team can really hang in this new looking sec or if they're going to go back to being little brother to texas and oklahoma i've got their ceiling probably a little high okay but if everything breaks the right way and also am accounting for what i saw when elko took over at Duke, which was a team that played very much above its station in life. And so 10-2 in getting into the CFP.
Starting point is 01:29:12 I don't hate that, Andy. You have to beat Notre Dame to do that. You have to beat Notre Dame. You could probably lose to Texas, but you've got to beat Notre Dame and probably beat LSU to make that happen. Notre Dame, by the way, they get to face their old boy in Riley Leonard with that staff.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Exactly. The storylines just write themselves. It's incredible. But the floor for A&M, because again, we don't know what this... Floor's five and seven. Yeah, I agree. And it's funny. I mean, I talked to some of my guys. I worked with Mike Elko at Texas A&M. I talked to some of my guys. I worked with Mike Elko at Texas A&M. I talked to some of my guys in the personnel team over there. And to your point at the top of this, Andy, they mentioned just how beaten this roster really was, especially on the defensive side of the ball.
Starting point is 01:29:58 They brought in 15 transfers on the defensive side alone. Guys like Will Lee and DeRickey Wright are going to help shore up the secondary. They brought in Scooby Williams and Solomon DeShields to help replace the loss of Adrian Cooper at linebacker. But most importantly, they brought back a guy that they believe is going to be the captain of this defense and college station native Nick Scowerton from Purdue, who's arguably one of the top defensive player in the country, regardless of position. Probably should have been in the 2022 class. Might've actually been the best. If you put him in the 2022 class, he might've been the best Eliam in it.
Starting point is 01:30:35 Absolutely. This is a completely different defense for Texas A&M under Mike Elko. It's just a matter of getting everyone on the same page in a hurry. And I think Elko shown that to your point, when he got to Duke, they turned that team around and turn them into a real player in that conference. And I think, you know, there's no reason not to think he can't do that at Texas A&M in year one. Let's see where we want to head now. Let's go to another first year coach. Let's go to Stark Vegas. Jeff Levy takes over state. How about at Texas at Georgia at Tennessee at Ole Miss? Welcome to the league. It's tough. I gotta be honest. I
Starting point is 01:31:18 think I might be more pessimistic on this one. I have the floor for this team being three wins. I think that's fine. I think that's fine because of the schedule. It's not their fault. It is brutal. Like, I mean, it is absolutely brutal. Plus you're bringing in a new head coach. You're bringing in a new starter at quarterback and Blake shaping a Baylor who was, he had some bright moments, but wasn't necessarily this big game changer for that offense. The O-line's in rough shape. The defense still has some holes in it.
Starting point is 01:31:48 And I tell you what, I like Levy, and I think he's going to get the offense figured out, but it's going to take some time. And I think Chapin has some solid arm talent, but this offense is going to take a while to mesh and get on the same page. I just don't know if I see it coming together sooner rather than later. Well, and here's the other thing.
Starting point is 01:32:05 That offense for the longest time was such a change-up and so hard for defenses to deal with because nobody really ran it. There were only a few programs that ran it. Now everybody runs it. Ole Miss runs it. Tennessee runs it. Oklahoma ran it with Levy for the last two years. Everybody's seen it.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Everybody knows how to match up against it now. Like it's not the mystery that it used to be. And I still love the veer and shoot as an offense for, for the reasons that we talked about when we talked about Ole Miss, like, but the problem is Ole Miss is going to run it with a lot better players right now. Yeah, no question. I don't disagree at all. I think it's something that, you know, the schedule does not help in the slightest, but I think this is a team that, I mean, Andy, I'll ask you, what do you think the best case for this Mississippi state team is? Do you think they go to a bowl game? Yeah, I think six and six or seven and five is your best case scenario.
Starting point is 01:33:08 You can go undefeated in the non-con. At Arizona State, normally when you have a road game against a power conference team, but Arizona State, I think, is a team that they can beat this year. It's not like having to go to Arizona this year. That would be a lot more difficult. I agree. So you may have four wins in the non-con and then you've got to, you've got to win two in the sec. So look, Florida, we don't know what they're going to be. Arkansas. We're about to talk about, we don't know what they're
Starting point is 01:33:35 going to be. Everybody else is really tough, but A&M like if A&M is not on the high side of what we thought, right. Then you got a shot. Yeah, I think to your point, I think if Mississippi State's able to do what you said and go to a bowl and win that bowl, I would count that as a huge success for Le'Veon year one. All right, let's talk about Arkansas. This is another hot seat situation. Sam Pittman, we know he's on dangerous ground here. We know they just hired bobby petrino to call plays which makes things really interesting because it sure feels like they're angling to have him be the interim if you wind up firing sam pitman true that said he also could do a good job working for sam pitman and then right sam pitman his job. This one could go, you know, pretty decent bowl
Starting point is 01:34:28 team or the bottom falls out completely. And we've seen the, like we saw the bottom fall out at Arkansas at the end of the Chad Morris era too. And really kind of the end of the Brett Bielemair. Right. It's funny. Cause to your point, I had the same i had the floor being potentially one win i mean yeah i i genuinely think this team if they don't start off on the right foot it could stay going downhill the entire season but the guy that changes the temperature for this team is is the transfer from boise state it's tailing green yeah there's a world in which that guy's a genuine game changer and keeps san pitman's job alive if he's able to do some of the things that we saw is tailing green an upgrade over kj jefferson i'm not entirely sure he is he may not be and i think that's
Starting point is 01:35:18 this the tough part of this is this roster as a whole is just not put together in order to sort of compete against some of these top competition and really win more than what five games this year. I just don't know if they have the pieces on the offensive line or pieces on the defensive front. And I think that's how you're going to get killed in this conference. And yes, you bring in a guy like Taylor green. I think there's a world in which he can create. Um, I think that's how you're going to get killed in this conference. And yes, you bring in a guy like Talon Green. I think there's a world in which he can create. I think he might have a little more twitch to him than KJ Jefferson does. Yes, KJ Jefferson is mobile and can make plays on the move.
Starting point is 01:35:54 But in terms of making guys miss, right, KJ Jefferson was a bulldozer. I think Talon Green's got a little bit more twitch to his game, maybe can be a little more creative in the run game with him. But to say he's going to bring this team to seven or eight wins i think that's a bit of a stretch all right one more i know everybody's been waiting for this one yep but i've been waiting to talk about this quarterback go ahead talk about thebilt Commodores. Not only do you get Diego Pavia from New Mexico State. Tam back, baby. You also get Jerry Kill.
Starting point is 01:36:32 Ooh. As a consultant. Absolutely. I mean, come on now. If you're Clark Lee, Jerry Kill makes teams better. Absolutely. Wins in impossible situations like New Mexico State. And then you bring in Diego Pavia, who won at New Mexico State,
Starting point is 01:36:52 which is a place where you are not supposed to be able to win as a quarterback. Correct. Diego Pavia was all conference for Conference USA last year. I mean, this is a guy that really brings a true dual threat to Vanderbilt, which ultimately, if you're going to win games at Vandy, you have to have a guy under center that's going to be able to move the chains with his legs, move the chains with his arms. This is a guy that's, he's coming in, right? It's a new quarterback deal. But like you mentioned with Jerry Kill, I mean, it's, this is an offense he's been running. He can run in his sleep.
Starting point is 01:37:22 So for Vandy to win a couple games, Diego Pavi is going to have to pull some magic out of a hat. And honestly, there's I don't know if it's out of a hat. Might be somewhere else, but yeah. OK. Fair point. But there's there's I think there's a world in which honestly they might actually do it. Is that crazy to say?
Starting point is 01:37:42 Like six and six ceiling bowl game ceiling. Yep. That's exactly your four is probably three and nine. Yeah. Which, you know, is that more likely possible? Um, but I do think there's a world in which this offense actually moves the ball pretty consistently. And that's something Vandy hasn't been able to do in quite some time. But I actually think with this, uh, New Mexico state crew coming in it's more than likely they're actually going to be able to move the ball offensively i'm very intrigued about that virginia tech game that i will say yes i would have been more intrigued about it had virginia tech season ended about the halfway point last year but i think they kind of figured things out
Starting point is 01:38:20 with chiron drones and exactly so now i'm leaning leaning yeah uh hokies in that one but but i do think that could be kind of interesting so i'm excited to see it agreed as you could see with a lot of these sec teams there's a lot of schedules where you're looking at potentially four playoff teams on your schedule agreed or or or there's four teams that will at least be in the hunt to make the playoff the second week of november like that's terrifying no question it makes everyone's life harder i i can't wait to watch it though i can't wait to see it uh hopefully we have uh we have enraged you and then provided you with hope for all of your teams. We're going to do this again for all of the other power conferences.
Starting point is 01:39:09 So, Cody, go start boning up on the Big Ten. You got it. Yes, sir. I will do. That's right. Big Ten is next. We will give you the ceiling and the floor for everybody in the Big 10. We'll also be doing the Big 12 and the ACC.
Starting point is 01:39:31 We just got to give Cody time. We got to give him time to dig deep into those rosters. But the Big 10 should be especially intriguing because you add the four new teams from the Pac-12. Oregon, Washington, USC have a chance to do something pretty much immediately. And the question is, what impact do they make immediately? Also, how does the lack of divisions in the Big Ten change things? Because I'm very interested to see what the lack of divisions does to Illinois,
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