Andy & Ari On3 - The College Football Playoff selection committee rolls with Alabama | Happy National Signing Day!

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

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U.S. Wendy's. Welcome to Andy and Ariane 3 presented by Wendy's. Happy National Signing day, but also happy. We think we have a pretty good idea what's going to happen in the playoff day because that committee ranking came out last night and I think we've got maybe like three or four scenarios that feel very realistic and everything else feels very unrealistic. But Ari right before the show, you were explaining that this is much easier than people think.

So I'm gonna give you the floor before we get to our Wendy's saucy takes, because it is a Wendy's saucy take Wednesday. All of our saucy takes relate to the playoff. But I'm gonna give you the floor. Tell the folks why this is easier than they think it is. Well before I go on a, it's not going to be a rant, just an explanation of how I was feeling last night before I went to bed.

Let me start off by saying I don't really think I have a problem with literally anything the committee did on Tuesday night. Like I don't know if you guys do, but given the circumstances of what they have to deal with here, it's a 12 team field. It's very complicated. They're going to be teams in the 13 to 16 range that are similar. You have to pick one, but in terms of the consistency of what they did here, I'm fine with it. Like, do we agree that there was nothing egregious about the actual thing? There's nothing to freak out about.

Okay, Miami's freaking out and South Carolina is freaking out because they're probably out. If you have no dog in the hunt, you're not freaking out because you could have gone pretty much either way with any of these. So, okay, I need to grow as a human because of course, those teams are freaking out and I'll let them freak out. But the way you get into the playoff is simple Andy and there are two ways to do it. Sometimes it's in your control and sometimes it's not in your control. You can go the easy way which is don't schedule any hard non-conference

games and be lucky like Indiana was in the conference that you play in and not play anybody good or play one good team. If you do that, you must have an 11 and one or better record in order to get in. Because when you don't have quality wins and you don't have strength of schedule, the only thing that matters is your wins and loss record. The second you lose a second game in that scenario, as Miami can attest, you're out. So that's the first route. The second route is to play the SEC schedule, which is tough non-conference

games a lot of the time and three or four top 15 teams throughout the regular season. You can do it this way. But if you do it this way, you have to win at least two of your four or five games. That means you have a larger. Yeah. You have two or three of the big five games you play that way.

You have more margin for error when you are navigating your schedule. So some teams have different routes, but the criteria for those teams is different. If Indiana had two losses right now Their schedule would come into play and they would be hanging out in the back with Miami The reason why Indiana with a bad schedule is in is because they did not lose So it's either you play a tough schedule You lose a few but you win a few big ones or you play a bad schedule and you just don't lose or you lose only

Once it is literally that simple. You can't have both. South Carolina is in this position right now because it wants to have both. It wants to play a tough schedule. It wants to lose all of its biggest games that could have been tent poles on its resume. And it wants to also still get in because they have strength in schedule, but you can't not have either. So you either have to have a great record or you have to have quality wins that the committee can hang their hat on. And that is it. There's no conspiracy.

There's nothing to do with what color your uniforms are or what conference you play in. If you have a tough schedule, whether you play in the mountain West, whether you play in the sec or the AFC North, you have to win your big games and they will forgive your losses. If you play a crappy schedule, whether you play in the Mountain West, AFC North or SEC, you have to have a great sketch.

You have to have a great record. That's it. And if you go and you look at the way that it's ranked, it's consistent in that thinking. And that's why the Tennessee argument happened because big wins matter. That's why anything all that matters are the two things I said, your record or your quality. Am I wrong on this?

No, you're right. I want to add something to it. I'll add one thing to it. If you choose the route of play the hard schedule, win the big games, and you lose some games, it's outside your control though. Like Mighty Alabama is in a good spot if SMU beats Clemson. But Mighty Alabama is relying on SMU.

It's not in their control. And if you are Clemson, scheduling a harder game and losing it could be the difference between making it and not. So like, yes, but if you go down the list and if South Carolina fans are angry, and again, these stats and data points are malleable, you can make them look as good as you want in favor of your team. And South Carolina has done that. But you know, in your heart of hearts, whether you would want to admit it publicly or not, that South Carolina simply did not do enough this year to get into the playoff period.

It played a tougher schedule than Indiana. Sure. But bemoaning Indiana schedule is pointless because Indiana schedule, though much easier, they also navigated it much better than you navigated yours. And that's what matters. So the thing is with Indiana is you can hate Indiana all you want. They're the number one punching bag right now for the sec. But Indiana had zero margin for error outside of their loss to Ohio state. They didn't have the benefit of losing the Vanderbilt or Kentucky or LSU or whatever.

They had to win every single... There's no... They say the problem with the old system is that demanding people to be perfect in order to be considered is too much to ask, but we are literally demanding teams who play with bad schedules the same level of success as we did in the four-team field to get into the into the 12 team. So having an easier schedule does not come without drawbacks too. And Miami played an easy ass schedule, but they are not in the playoff because they beat nobody

and they lost an extra game. So if you're a Miami fan and you're upset that Alabama is going in, understand that the tax that Alabama pays or that you pay for being in the ACC that Alabama does not have to pay is that Alabama has an extra loss it can shoulder than you because they play a much more difficult schedule. So in Miami's defense, they did schedule an SEC team out of conference that SEC team went seven and five. So that doesn't help them as much as it would if that SEC team went nine and three. And a lot of times, too, you things like this are out of your control. So like Indiana didn't know that Michigan was going to stink this year.

Right. Like they didn't. Right. We looked at Indiana schedule and said, there's two losses right there at the end. Right. We just didn't know that Michigan would lose five games this season. And Washington could have five games this season. And Washington could have been awesome this year. What if Nebraska was 10 and two? Like you don't know before the year what you're dealing with. And it's not Indiana's fault.

They play, they play within the big 10 and got an easier path coincidentally. The same way it wasn't for Ole Miss. And part of the reason why Ole Miss is out is because they had an advantageous path. Like Alabama played a pound for pound tougher schedule than than old. Let me ask you this one about Ole Miss in Alabama because Ole Miss shows to schedule very easy non-conference

games. Alabama tried to schedule a harder win with Wisconsin didn't necessarily get it, but Alabama's non-conference still winds up being probably harder than Ole Miss is. Yeah, well, here's the thing. non-conference still winds up being. Probably harder than Ole Miss is. Yeah, well here's here's here's the thing that's different. What I'm saying is should it like if Ole Miss had scheduled? A heavyweight non conference game and won it and went 9 and 3 with the same

losses they'd be over Alabama right now, right? Yeah, absolutely. And that's the and that's the benefit you get from it. But if they would have lost the game on top of their schedule, they would be definitively out. So there's risk involved. Now, the thing that I want people to see too is, in the past, when the AP poll mattered, and that might be years and years and years ago, but there was a point in time where the AP poll and perception mattered enough to best with the formula. Going on the road and beating Florida, going on the road and beating Wisconsin would count for something to the people.

But in this system, the only rankings that measure quality wins are the rankings that are assembled by the team that's assembling the bracket. So when Wisconsin, though a tougher non-conference schedule opponent than Mercer, you don't get credit for it either way. It helps your strength of schedule metric, but it's not like, well, that must have been a tough place to play and that was an impressive win. Wisconsin stinks, so you don't get credit. And you can't control that when you're scheduling your

non-conference opponents five years or ten years in advance. And you can't control how good teams are in your conference in a given year. Yeah, well, Alabama conference in a given year. Yeah. Well, like Alabama has Florida State next year. We have no idea if they're gonna get this year's Florida State or last year's Florida State. Cause those two things are very different. And the good news about that though,

is that no matter which one you get, your paths of the playoff will be reflective of that. If you get crappy Florida State, then you have an easier game to win. And that's good for you. If you get great Florida State and you beat them, then you have a tent pole at the end of the year. So it doesn't matter whether your schedule is easier or harder. It doesn't matter what conference you're in. It doesn't matter the logo on your helmet as they're proving with Indiana. What matters is, is what your path is, whether

it's in your control or not, and what you do with that path. And the thing that stinks about this more than anything, Andy, is that the entire country is just saying exactly here what RV cards is saying. They're always helping Alabama. And it's like Alabama happened to be the recipient of that extra spot at the moment. And I'm not sure they're in yet, guys.

We're gonna get to that later in the show. Alabama also despite the fact they lost 14 or 21 to 3 and didn't score touchdown at Oklahoma also played one of the most difficult schedules in the country in one games against teams that are holding them up and guess what Indiana didn't have to go play Georgia they didn't have to go play Tennessee they didn't play to get the teams that are in contention or in the playoff the way that Alabama did. So of course, Alabama gets mulligans for losses that didn't present themselves. So not every schedule is created equally. Absolutely, but not

everybody's resume and threshold to get in the playoff is either and it's really not that hard to me. Yeah, I like it that that is a very rational explanation that will still piss people off because I think in general, people don't like the subjectivity of it. I keep telling you, if you don't like the subjectivity, there's a way to make it more objective.

You're not gonna like that either. It's a super league that looks like the NFL top 40 teams. They balance it out with divisions. So if you keep screaming about that, don't worry. They'll make it happen for you, but you probably won't like it if you're a fan of an ACC or a big 12 team because they probably won't be included. So just pointing that out. If you don't like this, what comes next?

You're probably gonna hate more. So just just be aware. The end of the day, though, if you're not in the playoff, you only have yourself to blame. Period. Right. Win more games. If you lost three games and you're mad because your team missed the playoff, win more games. If you lost two games and you played a crappy schedule and you're mad because the team missed the playoff, win more games. And at the end of the day, lovingly from me, winning a national championship is really, really hard. Yeah. And you don't, it is. And I know that you get the benefit now for some teams of being good instead of elite to try to compete for one.

But we're talking about the mechanism. Let's not lose sight. Yeah. The mechanism for crowning the national champion. There is a standard that needs to be set in order to do that. And if your team is on the outside looking in, truth is they probably haven't come close to doing that. Even if they came close to edging in the end of the, of the field, they're not close to being the standard that is necessary. And if you get in and you win four games against the teams that are in the tournament, you've earned it. And if you're not in, you're scheduled during the regular

season has already shown us that you're not equipped to do that like it or not. So, in my opinion, if you if you have three losses in twelve games and you're not gonna win four in a row against the elite teams in the country, I don't think we're gonna see it. We haven have seen one of these things play out. But then we have the video producer River. Let's play that video. I mean, it's just football.

We got a bunch of good football players. All you got to do is win the game you play. Why not? I mean, somebody's going to win it. You know, you know, fortunate enough to win this game. You get a ticket to Willy Wonka's factory, right? You get to go, you're on the magic elevator, you know, and you get to be in the tournament.

And so if we're fortunate to win this game and get that opportunity, anything can happen, anything can happen. I think we were the first 15-0 team, national championship team. Maybe we could be the first three-loss team. Boy, that would upset some people. God, y'all would have to take a bunch of stuff back, as y'all say every day. That would really disappoint some people. But why not? Why not?

You might have a body. I love the Willy Wonka. Like who's Veruca Salt in this? of the of the teams trying to make the playoff that are on the bubble is it Alabama? I want it now daddy. It's been a long time.

I've seen that movie. Is there a magic elevator in it? There there is it goes like multiple directions. Oh yeah. It goes multiple directions. Yeah. My wife has a gluten allergy, so every time we go to a restaurant, I tell the wait waitress or waiter that if she eats gluten that she

turns into Augustus Gloop and she really loves that. That solves the problem every time it turns into a blueberry right so. But that that's Dabo and he makes the point. They could be the first three loss national champ. Also, the fact that they've lost three games suggests that they probably won't win.

For four games in a row and it might have to be four games in a row. Probably will have to be, but as hops in the chat, Clemson wins and Bama is out period. I want to talk about that in a second. First, Ari, let's talk about Panini America. This show is brought to you by Panini America, makers of the most collectible sports

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because we talked about this yesterday, and you just mentioned an Arch Manning Demon Square. So I'm gonna send this to Producer River. We're gonna talk about this in a few minutes. But first we've gotta hit our Wendy's saucy takes, because it is a Wednesday, saucy is take Wednesday. I just had S. Hobson on the screen saying, Clemson wins and Bama is out period. Okay

Producer river Can you give us your saucy take for this week? We're doing well, we're doing well, we're here in the office national signing day But the saucy take I have is exactly what s hopson was saying Clemson will be ACC champions They will beat SMU in Charlotte. Give me dabbo in Charlotte. He's done it plenty of times. I'll take them. I love that Clemson is Controlling a lot of this chaos like that now I believe we're gonna talk to Rhett Lashley later today then you can see him on tomorrow's show, but

This game is kind of the key to everything right now. I love that it's the night game too because we get to spend all day just because like we know that this is the game that's going to cause chaos. And we get to watch all the conference championship games for fun and then we get to build up to the one that's actually going to determine some stuff. But, you know, Andy, I don't know for the sake of time, this might not be the best way to do it, but his saucy take... Well, it leads into yours. I want to go to yours next.

It leads into mine. And also SMU is a two and a half point favorite, so like, again, not that saucy. It's going to be a good game, I think. And, you know, I thought that Clemson hung in there really well with South Carolina on Saturday. And if SMU is a legit playoff team, which we think they are, this should be a great game. And I think they should win. So I kind of disagree with him. But I also don't think that it's like, Oh my God, how could you think that in a two and a half point spread game? My saucy take is if River is right, Alabama will not make the playoff. And this is what I thought.

This, this is what I thought on Saturday night when I was alone in my Waco hotel room doing the bubble watch. And I came back off the ledge a little bit and was somewhat convinced by the odds and you that Alabama is probably going to get in, but then I saw on Wednesday morning or Tuesday that the hypothetical line for Notre Dame, Alabama, if that's the matchup would be Notre Dame minus three and a half. And it hit me like a ton of bricks, even though I already knew it. It just, that's what hit me.

It's that in the past, leaving out Alabama meant that we were leaving out one of those legacy teams that might have had a rough year or an unexpected loss, but you knew in your heart could win the national championship. And I don't think that this Alabama team outside of the logo that it has on its chest is any team that we lose sleep over trying to preserve as a result of what we think they're capable of. And I think that the spread of that game and your FBI and all the things are, are pretty good.

Or what if Vegas or what if Vegas set the set the field like that's different because in like, in every past year, if Vegas set the field, even if Alabama was nine and then it would have been a seven point favorite in that game against everybody. Yeah. And I want to remind people of this because I think that there's this general assumption that because of what happened with Florida State last year in Alabama, that the committee will bend over backwards to do whatever it can to help Alabama out. But I want to caution you and remind you that two years ago, if you remember how it went, TCU lost in the conference championship games and remained ahead of Alabama to get into the playoff.

And that was a team from the Big 12 that people would have looked out on their schedule the same way they're doing now. And that was an Alabama team that was Nick Saban led and more constructed to win than this one. So as we are going through this in our heads, barring an SMU blowout loss, I think we are overstating Alabama's likelihood of actually making the field this year. That's my take. The I don't think this is a saucy take at all. I after sleeping on this, after seeing what Ward Manuel said last night, I think you're probably right.

I think as long as SMU doesn't get blown out by Clemson and I don't think they're going to I think there there's a good chance that they are in over Alabama. You want to hear an interesting nugget that I stole from Bud Elliot? Sure. He either said this on his show or posted it. I can't remember, but apparently SMU... Friends of the Cover 3 podcast? Let's give them credit. Cover 3. Cover 3. Yes, sorry. That was not intentional. Great podcast. great podcast. Uh SMU plus 12 is the same exact odds as whether or not they'll make the playoff. So it's almost as if the Vegas has drawn a line in the sand of like they can lose by 12 or less from a statistic gambling standpoint.

If you took SMU plus 12, it's minus 390. And if you took SMU to miss the playoff, it's minus 390. So you can't hedge that way. Yeah. So they, they, that, that is basically where they think that line is. Yeah. Which makes sense. Interesting. Yeah.

And I think if it was 14, cause of like a garbage time touchdown, after somebody is trying to come back in one score game, I like, I don't think that's gonna change it that much. But and remember SMU is actually favored in this game. So it is. Yeah. And again, too, and I know you don't think that this matters or anyone cares about this, and maybe it doesn't. But also picking SMU is the cleanest choice. Now, that might not actually be true anymore because there was a clear line of demarcation between Ole Miss and Alabama and Miami last night, in my opinion. Like when the committee released their rankings, they unequivocally chose Alabama as the heir apparent

to get in if there's an open spot. So maybe it isn't cleaner anymore. Maybe it's just Alabama or SMU. I don't know if on, like on Sunday morning, when we wake up and do a preview show for the reveal, are we even gonna talk about Ole Miss in South Carolina or are we only gonna talk about SMU in Alabama? I think Ward Manuel has made it where we're going to talk about Ole Miss in South Carolina or are we only going to talk about SMU in Alabama? I think Ward Manuel has made it where we're only going to talk about SMU in Alabama because he said this and I was actually surprised that he said this.

He said basically the teams that aren't playing are not going to move unless somebody plays, you know, somebody loses and drops, somebody wins and rises, but they would move relative to those, but they won't move relative to one another, the teams that aren't playing. So I find that very interesting that he just came out and said that because they haven't said that in the past. They've said clean sheet of paper, we're going to try again, you know. So now I feel like he's backed himself into a corner on that. said that in the past. They've said clean sheet of paper. We're going to try again. You know, so now I feel like he's backed himself into a corner on that. Yeah. Well, I guess too, if SMU wins

and then knocks Clemson out, then you have to have a debate between Alabama, Ole Miss and South Carolina and Miami, because those are the only teams that are left for the final spot. But they've already had that debate is what they're saying because they're not playing. Yeah, right. So but I'm saying for us, like, do we just drop it then? Is it just Alabama's in? We'll see on to at noon on on Sunday or is there anything left to talk about? I don't know. There's anything left to talk about because of what they said. He has eliminated that himself. He didn't have to eliminate that. He could have said, clean sheet of paper, we're going to evaluate it all again. He didn't say that. Yeah.

All right. My sauciest take is this. One thing, one thing I have to say this, I'm sorry, not to, and I know I'm annoying, but as it pertains to not reevaluating the teams who didn't play, annoying, but as it pertains to not reevaluating the teams who didn't play. What about the teams that have their resumes impacted by results of the game this week? Doesn't that kind of go back into word mentioned that too. He said it's all already baked in. Like if you're in a championship, if you beat a team that's in a championship game, you're

already getting credit for that. And that's South Carolina and Clemson is what we're talking this in a championship game, you're already getting credit for that. And that's South Carolina and Clemson is what we're talking about. That's that he actually got asked that question regarding, you know, with, with that in mind, if Clemson wins the ACC does South Carolina's win. Yeah. And I guess if Georgia wins by 50, the two teams that we're arguing about both beat them and they both would benefit equally from that. So, okay, go ahead.

Correct. Sorry. Correct. All right. Here's, here's my saucy take. And it again, relates to this that we're talking about. If Clemson wins, Boise State is the three seat. Not the four seats. They're the three seat. And, and then Clemson is probably the 12th. The big 12 champion is probably the four. Hmm. Clemson's what number 17 right now, behind both teams in the big 12 championship game,

which means they're going to be compared head to head with the winner of the big 12 championship game, which means They're gonna be compared head-to-head with the winner of the big 12 championship game Which they're already behind and Then they're way behind Boise State Because Boise State's at 10 So they're not gonna they're not gonna be the the three seat I and Like Arizona State or Iowa State isn't to jump up over Boise state either.

Boise state will be your three C if Clemson beats SMU and Boise state beats UNLV by the way, I'm not saying that's a given that's going to be a fun game. I think what you're saying makes sense because of the way the rankings already are. So it wouldn't really make sense to move that around if all that happens. I think you're probably right about that. And it's not a saucy take at all.

It's not. I understand that, but I also understand when people see that Bronco in the three seat spot, they're going to go. Berserk. Yeah, well, there's a whole population that's going to see this on Sunday that doesn't know how this thing is seated. Yeah, I mean, I got a lot of tweets on Tuesday asking me how like ASU is the four seed and it's like Jesus man, like you are like how I don't know if you

if you don't understand this by now how you're interested enough to care now like you should know this by now, but there are a lot of people it's like how could you be interested enough to care about the playoff but not interested enough to know like how the seeding works yet. It's like right to me, but yes, there are a lot of people who are going to be confused by this and I think part of the the truth Andy is is that the the college football playoff as a whole did a pretty terrible job explaining it to be like

It's been up to us to try to tell them Scott says Andy you could say ape shit because they will go ape shit. You're right. They will like it will be There will be a significant number, because look, Boise State's probably the four seed if they beat you on Olivia and SMU beats Clemson. So you're gonna get it either way. People are gonna go nuts over that. Especially people who don't understand how this is seeded.

And it's a pretty important distinction for Boise because they get to not play an extra game and have a maybe easier path to getting there like rather than playing. You know, Penn State in the first round. They have they get to wait till the second round and that is one win away from the final four, which is great.

And let let's say. Actually, word manuals done us a favor here. I'm gonna extrapolate a little bit here. So we're saying Clemson wins the ACC, which knocks SMU. Now let's say SMU gets in instead of Bama. Then you would have Boise State sitting there in the Fiesta Bowl waiting to play the winner of Notre Dame SMU.

Are we sure Boise State can't win that game and go to the semis? No by the way, if Penn state loses, we throw your bracket back up there. River, we do that for me. If Penn state loses on Saturday to Oregon, do we anticipate that Penn State will fall behind Ohio State? Like, is there a path for any of the eight, nine, seven teams? Eight, nine, seven or six teams? Like, is it possible for Notre Dame to achieve that, that fifth seed, even though like we thought you had to be undefeated to get that? Like who's going to be five if Penn State loses them? That's a great question.

What if it's Texas losing? Texas could be five. See, I think we're making a lot of assumptions here with all of this stuff. But the question you ask about Penn State, which would have a second loss. Now it wouldn't be equal records with Ohio State because Penn State will have played an extra game, but Ohio State did win at Penn State and they'd be even in the loss column. So would that get that flipped? And then like all the Tennessee fans were comparing Tennessee to Ohio State and mad that Ohio State was ranked ahead and the Tennessee fans were looking at going to Columbus now.

What if Tennessee has to go to state college because of that? Yeah, I actually have been thinking a lot about this and I don't even think that Tennessee and Ohio state are going to play in the first round because there is going to be some shuffling in the rankings as a result of these things and they might not even play. So if you go back and look at the, it's somebody going to Eugene. Like if Penn state beats Oregon, Oregon's the five seat.

And then you have to go play there. Uh, Andy, another thing. If what your saucy take comes true and Boise is the three, then being the five might not be the easiest seat anymore either. Like that, that changes the entire math on who the five seed gets. Because then the five might have to play somebody else that's not Boise. Clemson. It'd be Clemson probably. And would you rather play Boise or Clemson? I think I'd rather play Boise. Wouldn't you? Or it could be the big 12th champ. Let's look at the tweet that Iowa State Athletic Director Jamie Pollard sent out last night.

Because I thought that was really interesting. This is from an AD whose team has a chance to make the playoff. They're basically in a win-and-end situation and here's what he said, disappointing that straight through schedule clearly does not matter for SMU, Indiana, and Boise State. Message is clear. Win as many games as possible regardless of who you play. Time to rethink non-conference scheduling. Very different standards than the basketball committee. time to rethink non-conference scheduling, very different standards than the basketball committee. And this is where I was making fun of you the other day

when you were saying, well, you just get as many wins as possible. I was saying, thank you for causing crappy games to get scheduled, but this is an actual AD who does schedule games. So it's his fault now, not mine? Well, but here's what I would point out. Okay, well, let me ask you this question.

It doesn't really matter that Iowa State beat Iowa this year. Like they could have played Northern Iowa in that game and they'd still be in the same boat, right? Yeah, I don't even understand what he's saying. He's saying that he's mad because they're not gonna be the four seed. Although they might be the four seed if Clemson wins. But that's what he wants his team to get a buy if they get in.

And he's mad that Boise State's ahead of them. And he's mad that SMU is ahead of them. Again, same thing that I explained at the beginning of the show. Do we want to do it again or do we do we hear it enough? You can you explain it again, just in case somebody came in late. Boise State played an easier schedule. Then Iowa State and as a result of that, Boise State was held to a higher standard of what it needed to do from a record standpoint

in order to achieve its spot. Iowa State lost an extra game. And I guess if you think it's because of Iowa then go ahead. But when they beat up that that's all them. Sorry. Wait, who was he complaining about? I don't understand the extra loss. I guess it was a conference loss.

He's got to play those games anyway. So but here's here's the other thing about this to to reinforce your point. Boise State played an easier schedule. Boise State has one loss. If Boise State takes loss number two on Friday night, Boise State is not making the playoff. No chance.

Iowa State has two losses. It is winning in for Iowa State. Like Iowa State does not have to worry about politics in terms of getting into the playoff. It just has to beat Arizona State. I legitimately have no idea what this man is complaining about. Like I don't even know what he's saying. He wants his team to be a three or four seed and he's thinking it's going to be a 12 seed. And I understand what he wants.

What I don't understand is what he thinks can be changed from his standpoint in order to achieve that. They didn't even lose a non-conference game. They started out 8-0 this year. What's he talking about? You lost two games that you were going to schedule no matter what. Are you saying you should play fewer conference games? If you want to if you want to have that conversation within your conference,

go ahead. Is he saying that it's advantageous to play a group of five schedule? Is that what he's saying? I guess maybe they should drop. Yeah, go, go play in the, uh, in the sunbelt and let us know how it goes. Hey, we want in. Also Boise's one loss this year was more impressive. The loss was more impressive than any of the Iowa State wins to me at this moment in time. So yeah, like again

politicking. I don't think I'm I'm built for this Andy. I don't like politicking. I think it's annoying. I know I know you picked the wrong sport to cover. You know what it reminds me of it reminds me of people? It reminds me of sports writers who complain a lot. Yes. And I think that's why it bothers me because sports writers are complainers. Yeah. I complain a lot. I complain a lot. But like, if you complain a lot about your job when you're a sports writer, like you need a new perspective. You need help. Yeah. I have a rule like never complain about a flight getting delayed. Never complain about I'm stuck in this

hotel. Like never complain about that. You have a job where you go talk about sports for a living or write about sports for a living. Like, have you ever yelled thing to complain about? Have you ever yelled at a person who works at the airport? I don't think I've ever yelled at one. I think I've been terse or not happy with one, but you got to be careful with that at the airport. Three years ago.

I almost got kicked out of an airport. So I think I broke your rule, but like I like they almost called security on me, but you didn't tweet it, right? No, I didn't tweet it. No, it was just like complaining to the people involved in the situation is something different than complaining to your thousands of followers. Oh, yeah. Hey, American Airways working real jobs that are

not nearly as fun as yours going. Well, I wish I could be delayed in the airport going to cover some sweet game. So yeah, but I have a I have a bad temper and public problem that I'm working. Yeah I might I might get a person out Better help That's right. That's right. It's not a better help ad day, but Better help comm code Andy and Ari Alright Ari let it as we're talking about these championship games and we're gonna do a little signing day talk as well

It's hard because there's so much going on but as we're talking about these championship games, and we're gonna do a little signing day talk as well. It's hard because there's so much going on. But as we're talking about these championship games, I wanna talk about the SEC championship game. But first, let's bring up the old prize picks screen. If you don't know prize picks, best daily fantasy game in America, play $5, get $50 instantly, use the code staples when you sign up.

Ari, you mentioned this earlier. Would there be an arch manning demon square? We mentioned it yesterday. There is an arch manning demon square. 0.5 rushing or receiving touchdowns. Ari, we saw it against Texas A&M. I want to take everybody back to 2006. If you're too younger, remember

2006. I'll give you a little history lesson. In 2006, the Florida Gators won the national title. They had a senior starting quarterback named Chris Leake. He was a pretty good quarterback. He was not viewed as high as high as ceiling a quarterback as the freshmen they had on the team named Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow had this role carved out for him early in the season. It started at Tennessee when he converted a fourth and one, but he's basically the mauler in short yardage, which they then made some tweaks to where they brought him in and you thought he was going to maul you in short yardage and like in against LSU he throws the pop pass to

take Casey. Arch Manning because of Quinn Ewer's bum ankle has become the Tim Thiebaud in this equation. Like who had running quarterback Arch Manning on their bingo card before this season Ari? I mean it's funny that you bring up Thiebaud and Leake because Th because Tebow is basically Mike Allstodt for the first time. Exactly. That's not what our training doesn't look like that at all, but he's a, he's a good runner and he scored like it worked against Texas.

He got in the end zone. Yeah. And you also get Texas A&M. You don't have to like preserve him this year because you know, he's a backup quarterback and like, you know, he doesn't, you can put some mileage on him this year. I mean, this is when you would do it. It is interesting to me because Texas, if you have watched them play since the Georgia game, I think that we assumed, especially with how well they

played at Michigan when we went to that game, that Texas was just going to have a air it out, cannot be stopped offense. And if you go look at their receiving numbers, like their number one receiving weapon, or at least reliability wise, is Gunnar Helm, their tight end. Like they are not an explosive, we'll score a shit ton of points on whoever they play type of team. And Quinn Uors has had his moments this year of great, right? Like he always does, but he's also had his moments of why is he on the field right now? And you are playing for the SEC championship against a team that you had a hard

time with at least offensively for an entire first half on your own field. It makes a lot of sense to me that you had a hard time with at least offensively for an entire first half on your own field. It makes a lot of sense to me that you would use somebody in a role like this that has an ability to change the way your offense functions. And if that person also happens to be your future quarterback who has a really good arm, the package lends itself to variability. Like you put him in, you can't 100% sell out for the run. Like when Tim Tebow came in, and if I'm remembering this, you covered it, right? When I was 0-6, I was in every game. Yep. Everybody knew what he was doing. And then that's how the pop pass was invented, right? Exactly. Exactly.

Until they didn't. They also did it in the national title game where he threw a touchdown pass to Andre Caldwell. Yeah. And that was it's fourth and one or third and inches or whatever. Tebow's in the game. He runs towards the line, stops, jumps and tosses it over. Yeah, that's like, yeah, they broke that out against LSU and it was it was magical. And so here's the the other part of this, like Georgia lost to Alabama in part because they

couldn't contain Jalen Milrow on design QB runs and scrambles. Arch Manning is not Jalen Milrow in terms of speed. But when you have the design QB run in your in your playbook, when you have legitimate read option, like when the quarterback puts the ball in the back's belly, and there's a legitimate chance the quarterback will pull and keep it, it changes your rules defensively, it causes you to have to worry about things, it takes one more person to deal with it. So that's why Arch Manning now has a prize pick square, 0.5 rushing receiving TDs is a demon square.

So potential higher payout if he gets it. So do you think he's gonna score a touchdown essentially on the ground or catching the ball? Well, if they go pop pass, you don't get it. You're out because he's throwing one. But I am fascinated by this dynamic because Archmanning as the Tim Tebow and Quinn yours as the Chris leak is not at all what I envisioned

Would happen this season, but that is what it is going into the freaking SEC Championship game against, Georgia What it is going into the freaking SEC championship game against Georgia. So price picks app, download it, use the code staples, play $5, get $50 instantly. Decide if you want to take that arch manning square. I'm going to give you this is one of the most fun aspects of this championship week. I feel like we've spent so much time talking about who's going to make it in the playoff. Like we know that both of these teams are getting in, so we're not talking about them as much. But can you imagine if an archmanning touchdown run because he's the designated running quarterback, like wins the SEC championship for Texas? So this isn't what I said though right like this is what I said was

what if they put him back there and it looks like they're going to run and then they let him just be himself and throw it a lot. Well you have that option too and I and I actually want to give you some truth serum right here on the in the jugular vein. Which side is the jugular? It's sort of closer to the middle. If you were on a game show and you made more money for every game that Texas won. And if they win the national championship, you win a million dollars. And you are in control of the personnel. And then they simulate the game based on your personnel decision. So I'm playing dealer no deal essentially with

Texas. Yeah. Yes, but here's the caveat. Before they go to each game, you have to pick who's playing quarterback. And the only person who's playing quarterback. And the only person who's playing quarterback, the entire game, there's no platoon situation here. You have to write who do you, it's a fun way of saying who would be your guy for Texas.

Yeah. Starting right now. And they have to run at every single time. Texas wins a game. You win $150,000. And if they win the national championship, you win a million bucks. Who's your horse right now? And I get zero if they don't win the national championship.

You get zero if they lose immediately. Because the passing capabilities are fairly close. I'm taking the one that clearly Steve Sarkeesian thinks is the better runner Arch Manning and the truth shall set you free. Are we on the verge? And I want you to be honest with yourself because we knew and we know what

happened with the Tivo League situation and granted it happened after the year because League played in the national championship game right he played you're you're you're walking yourself into a bad argument leak was a senior it was over oh oh okay yeah i am okay thanks for saving me yeah well quinn is a senior too or has done that he's a fourth year college player yes he has one year of eligibility remaining chris didn't so yeah, this there's no leak Teebo comparison because I'm going to ask you a question that didn't happen because leak did play in the national title game, right?

Right is are we are very well national title game was what we saw in College Station on Saturday. The beginning of a quarterback change that could happen this year during the playoff. Who? I think it was born out of necessity. Because you're playing against a team with an incredible defensive line in Texas A&M and you want to have that element. Of quarterback run where you have to make them aware and also if you win you're gonna play Georgia where

you really want them to have to practice that and spend a lot of time on that. It was born out of necessity because of viewers ankle injury. If you think, yes, I do think it's possible, but I, here's, here's the thing. If they're winning, they're not going to make a change. And if they lose, they're out. Except for this game. There is, there's still, if they lose this game. There's no way in your mind that Arch Manning takes the first snap of the semi-finals. If Quinn's hurt?

No hurt. No, no, no injury stuff. Just the only the only time you would make a change is if you lose this game and the offense doesn't play well. It's a carbon copy of the first game actually Then you might think about doing something different. I Disagree with you completely Okay, what if they are losing 14 to nothing in the second quarter of their first playoff game and they bring Archon and he rocks

Shit, that's it. Then you're right that then he would be the starter after that And it's already a scenario that we've seen Sark turn to this year. So it's not fairy tales. He's already done it in a big game. You're right. And maybe not Jalen didn't do any better than when, when he did, when he got in there. I know, but I don't know. It's clear that they're not done.

Try and playing him is all I'm saying. So if they're not apparent and it might become apparent as soon as Saturday that Texas's offense is more explosive and consistent with Arch Manning playing and if that happens, it could happen. Good problem to have, Ari. Good problem to have. I'm not trying to be sensationalist. I really do think that. No, and that's the thing because I know how people will react and especially

know how Texas fans are going to react when they see this. They're going to say you guys are just trying to stir stuff up. I'm not at all. Not true. It's a good problem. Like you can win. I think they can win the national title with Quinn Ubers. And if Quinn Ubers gets hurt, they have a guy they can put in, or Quinn Ubers is ineffective, they have a guy they can put in that can help them win the national title. How many other teams do you feel comfortable saying that about?

Like if Carson Beck goes down, if Dylan Gabriel goes down, if Drew Aller goes down, if Riley Leonard goes down, I don't think you feel that comfortable with most of those teams. I'm not going to sit here and listen to any Bo Pribula stand slander. Okay. So you shut your mouth, shut your mouth. Love, love Bo Pribula who gets used in the way that Arch Manning got used in the Texas A&M game.

Did you see this question by Joe W? I think he might or may not be a Florida State fan, but let's talk about it. Ha ha ha. If a starting quarterback gets hurt in a conference championship game and loses the game, is there a chance their team gets left out? I think it depends on the team. If the quarterback makes that massive a difference. Actually, can we change that Ari? Well, I guess no, cuz they're automatically in if they actually gentees out if they lose anyway, so that okay. How about this?

What about this? Army beats Tulane. So there are there only one loss. Boise State wins against UNLV, but Ashton Gentie is hurt in the fourth quarter and it is clear he will not be able to play in the playoff. That I think is the is the most realistic version of the Jordan Travis thing from last year because the reason why there's

no Jordan Travis scenario this year is that all the teams that are playing this weekend are firmly in there firmly. They're also insanely talented. And you can probably, like, if you've got three weeks, like Dante Moore has to come in for Dylan Gabriel. If you've got three weeks, you're feeling pretty comfortable about Dante Moore.

Now that we're breaking this down, Florida State was firmly in last year. That's true. There are more spots this year than there were last year. It's a good question. If Drew Aller got hurt and his status for the playoff was uncertain, I guess a better question would be would Penn State in a close loss in which that happened fall to like the 11 seat as a result of right would have changed the seating and like we've seen that with the basketball committee. They did that with Kenyar Martin. Remember he broke his leg in a conference tournament game in Cincinnati. I think it was a two seed instead of a one.

Because of that, but yeah. I just I don't. I don't know. It's a good question. And look, Florida State fans continue to be salty about last year. I got no problem with that. Be as salty as you want. You got screwed. So sorry.

It's national signing day, but there's so much other stuff. Like we said, when they move national signing day to the middle of championship week, that it was going to get overshadowed and there are going to be some weird situations and there would be teams that have no coach signing players. And that's what's happening with Purdue in North Carolina and UCF in West Virginia. But our guy, Pete Nacos, who never sleeps, remember the transfer portal is another piece of this equation and it opens on Monday. Guess who has just decided to enter the NCAA transfer portal, Ari? I don't think he just decided, but he's

he said he's going to. I know the answer but it wouldn't be funny if I just said it so why don't you go ahead and tell everyone? Hey, McNamara, Kate McNamara, who was the starting quarterback for Michigan's 2021 Big 10 championship team got beat out by JJ McCarthy, transferred to Iowa. It did not go well. And now he is in the portal again. Electric. Transferred Iowa. It did not go well and now he is in the portal again Electric it's it's unbelievable. Yeah, it's unbelievable so

I've been watching the The ticker I do that. It's I don't know about you Since the invention of Twitter One of my favorite days every year on Twitter is the, is national signing day. Just watching the news scroll like this guy's, this guy's, this guy's. How do we feel about it now in this just sort of dropped into the middle of everything? I think that a lot of things have changed. One, this used to be the day that determined how good your team was going to be for the next three years.

And this was like NFL draft day, but on steroids because it was like, these are the players that you chose that are bringing into your program. The drama of that happens on this day, you know, determines things. And like now it almost feels secondary to the portal. And I don't know if that's the right way to look at it, because I still think that this day is very important. But in terms of like a, uh, like roster building, this is the end all be all like it was three years ago, that doesn't exist anymore.

And I also think that it hurts the importance of the day because back in 2015, when you signed a player, yet you felt like you're going to have them for a while. And like now there are so many players signing and leaving. It's like the Mike Hudson thing is a perfect example. It's like, right. It takes Tech receiver who was a five star. Yeah, like that was supposed to be a monumental program altering signing for Joey McGuire and his staff. And now he's gone like a year later. You know what I mean? And he had 15 targets or whatever.

And I think it actually kind of it's funny because we always said, are we making too much out of these guys? Are we building them up too much before they ever play a snap in college? I think it's actually putting the 17 year olds back in their proper perspective. Like this guy may or may not work out. The guy you want out of the portal,

you kind of know what he can do in college. Yeah, but the thing that is interesting about that is that when Hudson finds his new home, do you know any more about what he can do in college now than he did a year ago? Like he was a young player who didn't play that much. So like what- When Malachi Nelson transferred to Boise State.

I think there were some people who was like, oh, he's a five-star, of course he's gonna start at Boise State. Everybody who followed what happened to him at USC was like, I don't know about that. And when Maddox Madsen won the job, it wasn't terrifically surprising. Yeah, it wasn't. No. And I think that there was an interesting conversation out there to be had that I'm sure we will have during the next month about the value of certain players in the portal, like Connor Wegman, for instance, like what

is his value? And do speculative not in the portal yet, but do speculative assets? Sorry, I got a text. Are they worth as much as players that you know will produce? Like, do you take a player like Malachi Nelson who you perceive to have a really high upside but has zero track record of producing in college? Or do you take a player that doesn't have nearly as high of an upside but has been like, for instance, and maybe Connor Wegman when and if that happens or a player like him when he gets Well, I think it's I think it's a good chance. I mean, so for those who don't know Brady Cook is a is a quarterback from Cocoa, Florida. He was a class of 2026 guys, one of the top 20s 2026 quarterback recruits. He was committed to Michigan for a while when Bryce Underwood flipped to Michigan. Brady Cook was one of two Michigan commits from Florida at quarterback who decommitted.

Carter Smith was the 2025 player who decommitted. And so Carter Smith found a new home. Brady Cook not only found a new home, he reclassified. So he is already signed with Texas A&M this morning. So Texas A&M has their class of 2025. Brady Brady Brady Brady Brady cook is Missouri. So what about Mizzou Brady Brady Hart Brady Hart. So two, two great Michigan last names put together.

Brady Hart. Yes. So my back should have gone to Michigan, honestly. Well, but what I'm saying is what I'm trying to ask is when Wegman goes in the portal, cause I'm you know he plans to as on three reported. Yeah, does a does the value of a player who has had a incredibly high ceiling? or a young player who hasn't played that much football that was a five star command any market that a Miller Moss

doesn't because Miller Moss has a longer track record of playing. Like what is more important to the teams? They need somebody to play and they want to they need him to play now. So you might be willing to take a player who isn't as special of an athlete, but has a longer track record of production than you would to take a speculative asset that has a boom or bust situation. It's actually like you were explaining to me about Panini cards the other day. Like a puka-nakua is worth more than a Cooper Cup right now depending on the more than a Cooper Cup right now, depending on the, this is a Cooper

Cup autograph by the way. Can I have that? No. Uh, but, but you said they play the same position on the same team. One is far more accomplished and has already won a Superbowl. One is younger, but it's always about the next. I do think in college football, there is still that the next might have the higher ceiling, might be, and also-

What's worth more right now when you're paying these players in the portal? I think demonstrated capability. Right? So unless it is, unless it is, and this is more to high school recruiting, unless it is a Jadavian Clowney coming out of high school or I like last year's a great example. DJ Lagway, the Florida fans hoped he was going to be a person who could transform the program,

but you didn't know when he signed. It turns out he might be. So I think there will be teams that do take risks financially on something like that. I think that's what Michigan's doing with Bryce Underwood right now. Or if you're a team that doesn't need a quarterback to start immediately, you have the ability to take a shot on a guy like that. Like Ohio State took Julian Sand in the portal, but right after high school and it's like they didn't need him to

start immediately. Although you guess you can make the case that they might have after what happened on Saturday. But like it is interesting the inflated values of the quarterbacks who are in the portal in relation to young players who were once very highly sought after that haven't played much yet. And I think maybe Wegmans probably passed that because he's played enough to kind of get a feel of who he is but Yeah, like the the This is all very fascinating stuff and we have all month to talk about it. But yeah Yeah So if you want to if you want to get filled in on everything that's happened today in national signing day at

11 a.m. Eastern time the on three recruits channel will start its mega cast Josh Newberg Steve wilt F Chad Simmons, all of our experts breaking down all the classes. Does Alabama hold as the number one class? Does Georgia become the number one class? Auburn could have a huge, huge day. That class, the bones of it have stuck together, it seems like, and now they're looking to add some stuff. So it's going to be a really interesting day on that front. We are going to wrap it up tomorrow by talking to a bunch of coaches.

So we've got interviews scheduled with coaches that we're going to talk to their, about their current teams, about the guys they're signing art. Should we, should we let the folks know who we're thinking we're getting today? Uh, I think it's pretty certain that we will. We might, maybe, you know, with the, with the clarification that sometimes things come up for coaches on signing. Sometimes things come up, but we got Rhett Lashley, SMU coach whose team controls a lot of what's going to happen this weekend. Like if they win, one thing happens. If they don't, another thing happens.

And also what does getting in this position do for SMU's recruiting? We got Indiana coach Kurt Signetti. What does Indiana making the playoff do for Indiana going forward? How does that change? Does that change his messaging to recruits? Does that change how he handles it? We got Sharon Moore, the Michigan coach.

I believe Bryce Underwood will be signed by that point. Also, he's looking for new offensive coordinator to coach Bryce Underwood. That's fascinating. They just beat Ohio State. Shane Beamer. South Carolina is probably the hottest team in the country right now. They signed Dylan Stewart last year as a five star. He was exactly what was advertised. Billy Napier. We talked about DJ Lagway just a second ago.

They're flipping guys like crazy now that we know who's going to coach Florida next year. It's going to be like a midnight telephone tomorrow. We got the top board in the back. And don't forget Andy, you are my game show champion today. I'm hoping Texas wins it all for you. So you get the big bag of million dollars of unmarked bills just for you or mark bills for you. Ari, I think that conversation is going to be had a lot more as the week goes on.

The Arch Manning, Quinn Ewers one. Uh, I think all this other stuff has kind of covered it up because everybody's more interested in who's going to make the playoff. The fact that Arch Manning is going to be the Tim Tebow to Quinn Ewers Chris League again and maybe more so than he was in the Texas A&M game. That is a boy with the conversations shifts from who gets into who's going to win. That's when that'll happen. Oh boy.

Cannot wait. Join us tomorrow. 9.30 a.m. Eastern time. Tons of coaches talking about their classes on signing day, talking about where their teams are at right now. Go to the On3Recruits channel. You need to be subscribed to that too. All the national signing day coverage today

as things happen. And of course, if big things happen, we'll also pop on and chime in on that too. But Josh Newberg has you the rest of the way today on the on three recruits channel. So tune in in 24 minutes, 11 a.m. Eastern time on the on three recruits channel. Ari, it's going to be a fascinating rest of the day, fascinating week.

It's all happening. We'll talk to you tomorrow.