Andy & Ari On3 - The EA Sports college football game is dropping July 19! | Why do all these nicknames stink?

Episode Date: May 17, 2024

The great Phillip Dukes of the Five Star Flex (on the On3 Recruits channel, like and subscribe) joins Andy to discuss the flood of new information about the EA Sports College Football game that has every college football fan buzzing.(0:00-1:40) Intro(1:41-14:29) Phillip Dukes joins - EA Sports Anticipation(14:30-24:09) Any 99 Overalls in the Video Game?(24:10-35:59) Nicknames in College Football(36:00-51:43) A Look at Dabo and the Transfer Portal(51:44-1:04:35) Doug Gottlieb Coaching and Hosting a Show?(1:04:36 Conclusion - Have a Great Weekend!The cover and various editions were revealed Thursday. Friday will bring a full trailer. The game drops July 19 unless you buy the deluxe edition or the bundle with Madden. Then you can play July 16.Next, Andy and Dukes try to solve one of college football’s biggest crises: The nicknames stink these days. So they’re going to fix it by handing out nicknames to some of the sport’s best players.Andy also has questions about Doug Gottlieb’s decision to keep his radio show while coaching the Wisconsin-Green Bay basketball team. He and Dukes also try to decide which college football coaches could host a show while still coaching.Want to watch the show instead? Head on over to YouTube and join us LIVE, M-F, at 8 am et! https://youtube.com/live/A1_3YuiHXoQ

Hey Staples on three. Everybody in the world of college football is excited today. Everybody. Because we've seen the cover of the new EA Sports College Football game. Remember, we've been waiting for this game for 11 years. We've seen the cover. We have a release date. We have a price point.

We have a bundling of packages different how ways to buy it i'm told later today we're gonna get even more we're gonna get some moving video we're gonna get some gameplay we're gonna get the trailer it is going to be a very exciting day for those of us who love college football. And look, I get this. You guys are giving EA Sports so much free advertising here. I get it. But every time I covered one of these trials that kind of reshaped college sports as we know it,

the first question anybody would ask me is when do we get the game back? And we actually know when we're getting the game back that the day is July 19th, unless you want to buy the deluxe edition or the bundle with Madden. And then that day is July 16th. So if my son would like to know when I am stealing his PlayStation, that's the day. Probably the night before. Got to get it set up in my office. Probably a decent download time here, but that's the day. It's Friday. We decided to run back what we did last Friday because it was so much fun. It's a Philip Dukes Friday. You know him. You love him. Dukes the scoop. Post to the five-star flex on the On3Recruits channel. If you're not already

subscribed, if you're not hitting that like button, hitting that thumbs up every single time you see this man's face on your screen, you're doing it wrong. What's up, Dukes? Andy, what's up, man? How you doing? I am happy. I am happy because I have been waiting for this video so i'm old we've established this you and i talked about this last week we're both old and so i was among the first people playing the the ea sports college football game like it it came out when we were in college late high school in college and like i remember in my apartment in college having tournaments that would last all night like i would play as south carolina they had just added the option

pitch on the trigger button so anthony wright who was a really good runner uh okay passer was great running the option not in real life probably could have been in real life but i'm sure he didn't want to do it in real life but he was great on the game doing it so i i just i am so excited about what it's going to look like when i am having general booty pilot the ulm warhawks to a national title man you know the biggest thing for me is like i started out on the PlayStation 2. And so back then, Texas was the squad, right? And so the way that I used to play that option pitch was with Quentin Jammer.

His tackling ability on that game was so crazy. Okay, so then I got into, when we went Gen 3, I saw that development. I saw how much the game changed in, like, 2009. West Virginia was my squad. I'm going crazy pat white steve slayton and now what what interests me the most is to see ncaa football almost skip a generation for me and go straight to p5 uh playstation 5 or i think the xbox is the xbox uh whatever the the newest xbox is the Xbox, yeah, and it's not going to be on PC. If you don't know who Matt Brown is, Matt's a guy who worked for SB Nation.

He now covers, he does a newsletter. He covers the business of college sports. So he's normally talking about realignment or how they pay the players but he got because of he's really good at sending out freedom of information act requests he got tons of information about this game early on because he was like okay send me copies of whatever assets you've sent to ea sports and then he's been doing this for a couple years years. So like when they, when, when they sent, here's our fight song and here's a recording of it, he'd get a, a, the answer to his request would say, okay, Texas has sent the fight song to the, to EA Sports. So he kind of all along has been telling us what's going to happen. And yeah, he's, uh, he's been on

this for a while, but he, he asked why it's not going to be on pc and apparently it's so much kind of continuous maintenance if you're gonna have it on pc so that's why it'll be on playstation it'll be on xbox and i realized dukes there's probably a portion of the audience like who cares about this but this is i don't know i think it's probably over 75% of the audience of this show is going to buy this game and play this game. Yeah, easily. And then for the new college football fans who came up, who haven't had an opportunity to play this game, you got to think this game hasn't been out since 2014. My son was born in 2013.

From the time he started playing video games, he's always wanted to play a college football game. He has been over the moon about this information. If I just want to – if he's having a bad day or not the best day, all I have to do is show him this cover and say this summer, and he perks up instantly. So even for us, the nostalgia factor for the older guys, but I think it's doubly as important for the younger guys who haven't even had the chance to experience those all night games of NCAA football. Yeah. And the other thing about it is like, so my son's 14, he's been playing Madden

for a while and like he's an August birthday. So he gets Madden every year on his birthday. It's just part of the deal. And he loves playing Madden, but he lives in a college town in the South. Like college football is way bigger where we live than the NFL. And it's all anybody talks about at his school. It's all he and the boys talk about. Like they talk about NFL too, but they,

they talk a lot more about college football. So like when they get a chance to play as these guys, when they get a chance to play, like, so we live in Gainesville. So all these boys want to play as the Gators. They want to, they want to be the ones that bring the Gators back to championship level. And I'm sure it's the same thing. If you live in Birmingham, if you live in Jackson, Mississippi, if you live in Atlanta, like that's what you want to do. You have your team and you want to bring that team to glory yourself. But that's the thing I like about it. And maybe,

maybe because this is what I've been writing about the whole time and, and, and pushing for the whole time. Like I, I always hated it. I knew that was Pat white, but it wasn't really Pat white. Like it will be travis hunter like when you're playing as colorado that's travis hunter i think that's awesome man think about it like the only time we really had to go through that in our generation outside of the college football game was to create a player jordan 99 and you knew it was Jordan, but it never felt the same when you dump with 99 on the bulls.

And it's the same thing for college football. It just didn't feel the same. We knew, but let's say you were playing more of a, of a novice player who may not have known who your star player was that you found. There may be a third string guy on a bench that you find that absolutely like wreaks havoc for you,

but all he gets to be for that guy who doesn't know him is player 14. Well, now those guys get the notoriety for being guys who may not be the major guys in college football, but now when they see a specific skill set, what I like to do, I go through every roster and find the fastest guy.

I always want to find the fastest runner back and I always want to find the fastest receiver. That creates notoriety for these guys, and I think it's way overdue. It's just an exciting time, especially when you think about college football junkies like this. Anthony Schwartz would have been unstoppable in this game. Schwartz would have been insane. That's the thing.

Guys who are better in the game than they be in real life, they are going to become somebody's favorite player. And it might be some kid who lives in New Mexico might have an Auburn guy as his favorite player because that's the guy he dominates with. And we all remember, I'm old enough to remember Bo Jackson and Tecmo Bowl, the unstoppable Bo Jackson and Tecmo Bowl. But it's so niche in college. Like, you'll find something, like you said, you'll go through the rosters and you're just looking for 99 speed.

And there will be guys with 99 speed and you're going to try them out. And there's going to be one, like, there'll be one guy. And the first time you run like an end around jet sweep with him, you're going to score. And you and there's going to be one guy, and the first time you run an end-to-round jet sweep with him, you're going to score, and you're like, that's my guy. And it won't matter if he gets tackled for a four-yard loss every other time because he scored on the first play. That's your guy. Absolutely.

You need that one. And I think, too, for guys, like, we don't watch a lot of West Coast football. So I think a really good player that's going to kind of pop in this game is going to be Jaden Ott from Cal. Yes. I think, like, in this game, this game is built for him. He breaks a lot of tackles. He's also had, he can get to his top speed fast.

He can catch the ball. He's one of those guys that you can take your offense, and I wish Sam Jackson would have still been there, the quarterback from last year from Cal who transferred to auburn as a wide receiver he's playing wide receiver at auburn so what do you think he would have done on the game as a quarterback have that type of speed i i that's one missed opportunity from last year to be able to get that sam jackson jay to not backfill on this game well here's what how about this one okay you get avery johnson and dylan edwards now that's the question and and this is what i and i know that ea sports team is is thorough

and i know the people who make the game are big college football fans so that they're into this stuff but like is the speed on avery johnson going to be accurate because if the speed on Avery Johnson going to be accurate? Because if the speed on Avery Johnson is going to be accurate, K-State may be a lot of people's favorite team. Yeah, I think so. And the video game portion of NCAA, when you compare it to Madden, NCAA always played faster than Madden. So if you've got those two in the backfield, the only way to neutralize them is going to be to go get –

you've got to play with LSU and run with Perkins. Take Perkins off the line, run him around in a bunch of space, and just go get Johnson. That's kind of how you're going to have to play it, especially like when people start to – like video game terms start, cheese in the option when you got fast guys like that. You basically got to have a team where they can start – where you have a guy. Because I think Perkins has got to be at least a 90-91 speed on this game I mean he's got to be oh yeah

okay now you just reminded me of something though if Brian Kelly thought it was bad last year with people criticizing the way that LSU was using Harold Perkins oh my imagine now it's gonna be like two million coaches, 2 million defensive coordinators using Harold Perkins one way. And then real Harold Perkins will be used a different way and they will go insane. Oh, it's going to be ridiculous. Like, can you imagine the message boards? Like I love the site message board geniuses where they take like crazy takes

from. Oh yeah. So can you imagine somebody saying, look at these stats from harold perkins last year he had 94 sex in 10 games and you mean to tell me he can't get so i think this with with and that's the beauty of it because now everybody you get to talk about what you like to do but now you get to actually do it and um yeah like you said i think that's a really interesting point because you're going to create

more and more coaches some of these coaches will be eight years old some of them will be 80 but everybody's going to have their opinion and know what and my system works right everybody's going to say my system works run the four four well i think we're and obviously kids been playing madden the playbooks are pretty elaborate like my kid can id a cover two or a cover three whereas if you'd ask me when i was a kid like even when i was playing football in high school i didn't give it i didn't give a crap what the secondary was doing like it didn't matter to me this guy in front of me i gotta block him that's that's it but that it now kids have a more global view of scheme yeah absolutely my son like so we always talk about when to run crosses right

and why would you run crosses against zone and then he'll come back and tell me well dad it just works right here you just got to wait till he runs out of his own and hit him right here and this guy has the accuracy to throw here you just got to have a guy with a strong enough arm he loves to run crosses with Josh Allen. Me having this conversation with my 10-year-old just shows you where we are. When I was 10 years old, every office in Little League was wing, tee, or wishbone, three downs in a cloud of dust. And we threw the ball on fourth down every time when we didn't get enough yards.

That's it. So now when you think about how much the game has evolved, especially this portion of it, and not to get off subject, but the amount of training young players go through at this age, you can just go on Instagram and you can go see a bunch of 10-year-olds doing all types of crazy drills, one-hand catches, backpedaling in a very fluid motion, opening up their hips. This is stuff I didn't learn until I got to be 14, 15.

So I think now the games, there is a very, very high chance that we may play online and get spanked by somebody who's not even in fifth grade. And that fifth grader might become the next big coach when he's 40. Absolutely. That's the craziest part. All right, we've got to figure out, will there be any 99 overalls in this game? So the mid-2000s, there was a run of a lot of 99 overalls.

Then they dialed it back. I think Andrew Luck was one of the last 99 overalls when he was at Stanford, but not a lot. Do we think there will be any 99 overalls in this game? Mine was, I think you've got to go with Travis Hunter just because you have to fill out his attributes on offense as well so even if he's not a 99 corner he may be uh let's say he's a 96 corner and a 92 receiver

what what if you look at how many of his attributes that are going to be filled in because usually when you've got offensive awareness, defensive awareness, you've got your catching ability, you've got route running ability. A lot of defensive backs aren't going to have route running ability in the 80s. So just with the sheer amount of attributes that you have to kind of set a value for, for a player like Travis Hunter, I think he's got to be a 99. I think that's the most likely candidate i think he's got to be a 99 i i think that's the most likely candidate and he's on the cover like oh yeah because it's him it's him quinn

ewers and donovan edwards quinn ewers is not going to be a 99 overall donovan edwards definitely not going to be 99 overall the only other guys i can think of that you might do 99 overall because you're not going to have everybody complaining like if you do another quarterback if you do a quarterback, everybody's going to be, why didn't my quarterback get 99 overall? Although, if you're EA Sports, I think they like that discourse. They like the complaining. But I think if you go 99 overall with any of the guys playing this year,

it's going to be alignment. It could be Kelvin Banks, who's Quinn Ewer's left tackle. It could be Will Campbell, the left tackle at LSU. Maybe one of the 2D tackles at Michigan, either Mason Graham or Kenneth Grant. The other guy I was thinking of, Dukes, and it's positional versatility that leads me to this, which is why I think he might be the most likely D lineman to get it, is Deion Walker at Kentucky. Because Deion Walker's 350 pounds and can rush off the edge. Like he can play every position on the D line, which like you said, with Travis Hunter,

you have to account for so many different attributes. Well, Deion Walker, you're going to have your typical inside D lineman attributes, but he did, he can do all the edge things that most people want. Now, is he the best edge rusher in the country? No, but he's he can do all the edge things that most people want now is he the best edge rusher in the country no but he's he's a legit sec edge rusher at that at that size along with being what he can be up the middle i think that's the one i would go with if i'm going to pick anybody for 99 overall yeah i think especially if you got stamina off right yep if you if you play if you take stamina out of it he's definitely one of those guys there's a guy i like at tennessee i'm gonna say and i got him for later on in the show but james pierce jr i think he has a very very

very video like game freak of nature when you talk about how he looks athletically, how fast he is, the bend that he gets off his motor. I can see that playing into him being almost unblockable in this game. He had 10 sacks last year. I mean, from everything that I've been getting out of Tennessee, they say he's everything that people think he is, and he's filled out a little bit more. He looks like a creative player.

So, yeah, I would venture to say he's filled out a little bit more it looks like a creative player so yeah i think i i would venture to say he's probably the top returning dedicated edge rusher uh defensive lineman in the sec so i i maybe not 99 but i think he could be close yeah and and the thing is like i remember at their game against alabama last year watching him against Caden Proctor. Now Caden Proctor got much better as the season went on, but James Pierce was just abusing him and there was nothing he could do. And, and it's, and you watched other Tennessee games where it was the same thing. It's like, you just have to devote so many resources to slowing down James Pierce and it helps everybody else on that. Now we'll see how the rest that that's a deep defensive line. They feel comfortable rolling, you know, too deep through, uh, Tyler Barron's not there anymore, but they, they feel comfortable replacing him. So I do think that's

a, that's a good choice right there because you're right. He's, he's probably better this year. He very well could be the number one pick in the draft next year. So it's a good one. I can't wait. I just cannot wait to see this because it's been 11 years. And the reason the game went away is EA Sports was like, we'd like to pay the players so we could use them in the game. And the NCAA is like, we're not going to let you do that. And EA Sports was getting sued at the time.

They were one of the original defendants in the obanan suit and they settled it quickly they're like hey we get it we should have been paying you guys and i just get from the class action suit i actually could have uh i did not because i was on a roster of what was an all-time team, the 96 Gators. But I was like, no, because they don't put third stringers in the game. And I was like a ninth stringer. So it only goes too deep.

I was like, let's let the people who are actually good get the check for that. Because it wasn't a huge check but yeah it would have been like everybody who appeared on a roster was eligible so ryan willie in the chat last year tory taylor the iowa punter would have been a 99 100 a 99 punter make your dream points out taylor mays was a 99 the usc safety like dukes can you imagine taylor mays showing up at a football practice now and people like what position you play safety no you don't man you know what i always and i was i'm i'm definitely a speed guy. And when he ran that 40 at the combine, I was like,

he's the best safety of all time. And I absolutely believe that. And when Pete Carroll drafted Earl Thomas instead of him, I said, okay, there's got to be something going on here. Because Pete Carroll had just left Southern Cal, and he drafted Earl Thomas instead. And I know for a fact that this kid, Taylor Mays, had to be like, man, coach, what's going on?

But clearly Pete knew what he was doing. I was going to say, Earl Thomas' NFL career tells us that Pete made the right choice there. But you're right. Like, yeah, Taylor Mays was a just freak of nature. He's like a 240- pound safety who could fly and like today i think we'd have him coming off the edge yeah i think we like he would have moved the linebacker in like 2016 and then now he'd be an edge guy he can 1000 be an edge guy and it's just funny how, based on when you're born, kind of determines

your future. Like, there are a lot of basketball players now who would have been football players before, or excuse me, vice versa. There are a lot of football players who probably would have been playing a different sport. And even if you look at baseball, your center fielder, the old

center fielder, is playing slot receiver now. Like, guys just aren't playing baseball at the same rate they used to be. So, yeah, I think generation and basically when you're born has a lot to do with your positional. Well, like Charles Barkley wouldn't get drafted into the NBA right now. Now, he was an athletic freak. Right. But he wouldn't get drafted into the NBA because he's a 6 six foot four power forward like he didn't get that fours aren't that anymore fours have to be like six nine and above and have to be able to shoot and handle you've got to have a handle like and that's the

prototype um these guys would have been sinners years ago like there's no way that they would allow these guys to play on the perimeter as much as they do. I just think it's crazy because even these guys playing on the perimeter, well, that forces a lot of point guards who are 5'10", 5'11", back onto the football field. Your generation that you're born in has a lot to do with how successful you are based on where the game is. Well, exactly. I've said this for several years i think basketball is pushing more tight ends into football because there there's no place in college anymore either like you can't get a division one scholarship as a 6-5 power for it like every team used to have that 6-5 260 pound

dude who was kind of an enforcer down low. That doesn't exist in major college basketball anymore. DJ Burns is the center, but you don't see guys that look like that playing major college basketball. Jay Crowder, who is in the NBA right now, Mo'Ally Cox played at V VCU and now he's in the NFL but like those two guys you're not going to see many of those in basketball like all of those guys are going to get pushed to football in high school yeah I mean like and even now when you see a guy like uh uh uh Joe Alt right yeah you think about that is that Udonis Haslam today? Right. Now you have this.

So I was in college when UD was at Florida. Right. And UD was heavier. Like, he had to change his body to play in the NBA. He lost, like, 60 pounds to play in the NBA. But UD was a 6'6", 270-pound post player. Right. That just didn't, like, that doesn't exist now. No, that day is over and done player. Right. That just didn't like, that doesn't exist now.

No, that day is over and done with. Yeah. So, all right. Speaking of the day, it's over and done. This is, I'm glad we,

we ventured into the NBA talk because you sent me this last night and, and I, I agreed wholeheartedly. So this is, you sent me a tweet from, from Sam Quinn from CBS. He said, NBA nicknames have gotten so lazy.

Jokic is Joker. How original. Dude barely smiles. Anthony Edwards becomes Ant. Now, as we know, he was Ant-Man when he was playing peewee football in Atlanta, but that's his thing. Shy Gilgis Alexander is SGA. I could go on. What happened to Chocolate Thunder, the round mound of rebound?

We used to be a country. And so you said, look, we got to make some nicknames for these college football players because there really aren't a lot of good ones. What was the last truly great nickname? Johnny Football was okay. The fact that Johnny Football is a shortened version of what it started as on the message boards, it was actually JFF, Johnny something football. I think the Honey Badger was the last truly great nickname in college football. Yeah.

What was the quarterback? Oh, Kenny Trill was pretty good too, right? Oh, Kenny Trill was great. He was now quarterback coach. Kenny Hill. Oh, wow. I didn't know that. Yeah. No, Kenny Hill. Oh, wow. I didn't know that. Yeah, no.

He actually joined Gary Patterson's staff at TCU after he finished playing. And now he's in the coaching ranks. But, yeah, so we were talking about – you and I were going back and forth last night about some of these dudes this year. Because, like, if Quinn Ewers had kept the mullet, there were ways – like, you could have called him the mechanic because he does look like I sent a tweet out I think it was during the Texas Oklahoma game a couple years ago I said Quinn Ewers looks like that guy in every small southern

town who can get you a really good deal on a used Camaro hood so you you know that guy right you met that guy oh man that's funny yeah i mean like you're right the honey badger probably was like the best one uh of all of them because that's like when honey badger mania was going crazy on youtube right they got the video there's the guy who's saying the honey badger doesn't give a what when he's commentating a honey badger Mania was going crazy on YouTube, right? They got the video. There's the guy who's saying the Honey Badger doesn't give a what when he's commentating the Honey Badger. And that was like gold. I think now like, yeah,

and people don't take the time to even do it because there's so much going on. We're so overstimulated with information. Like, we don't just have to sit down and kind of fixate on the guy, but like, we talk about him so much that we come with the nickname because it leads us to think that we're on to the next. But the hefty, lefty, round mound of touchdown.

Yes, Jared Lorenzen. Wait, wait, there's one more. The Pillsbury throw boy. That is gold. That makes college football. Rest in peace, Jared Owens. God bless him, man. Golly, that was a good one.

I never got that. I used to see him, and I was like, man, that dude is big. And I never thought that he would have made it as long as an NFL as he did. A lot of people didn't realize he had an okay career. His Super Bowl ring. He was Eli Manning's backup and one of the giant super bowl teams yeah man so i think like for me like what what's a good nickname like i think the best nicknames describe either how you look or what you do like yes the ones that merge both of

those are the best nicknames that's why why I thought like the round mounder touchdown, that was perfect. Scores, touchdowns, round, we get it. Honey Badger had the little gold hair, kind of small, and then he was everywhere and didn't care who he was going against. Perfect. Okay, I got one. All right. Zachariah Branch, right?

Okay. The remote control. Why? Oh. He is a PlayStation player. Oh, yes. And the defense always loses him. That's perfect.

Yeah, okay. You got one, Andy? I got a more literal one.on beck georgia quarterback the barber so we learned when we talked to cedric van praen last year georgia center from last year that carson van uh carson beck cuts hair like they were roommates carson beck cut cedric van prance here cut cut his hair before his first date with his current girlfriend. Like, that's how much this man trusts Carson Beck scissors and clippers. So that should tell you something.

And then you've got the dual meaning of he can be surgical. If we want to go Broadway, you can be like Sweeney Todd. He can slit your throat with the razor. Like that's, I think that works. So we got the barber for Carson Beck. I like that one. Oh, wait. Willie, I forgot this one.

Doug Martin, former Boise State running back. The muscle hamster. The muscle hamster. Make college football great again. Oh, wait. Make Your Dream reminds us there is one really good one. Nash Hutmacher, the 300-pound nose guard at Nebraska. The Polar Bear.

Oh, yeah, that's cold. I like that. Literally, that's cold. I like that. Man, you know what? Okay, I got one more, right? All right. Barry and Brown at Kentucky.

Mm-hmm. B.B. King, right? Yep. Because the thrill is gone. Boom. The thrill is gone. Barry and Brown, B.B. King. When we have Deion Walker on the show next,

we're going to see if we can incept that into his mind and see if he can take that back to the team and see if we can get... Barry Brown and Dane Key, by the way. I'm glad you brought that up. Kentucky's got some dudes at receiver. Brock Vandegrift, if you're having a good season,

you can have some fun with these guys that would be uh insane man i want to play with them now i just thought about it like man oh on ncaa football yeah yeah i want to play with them when you think about like a barry and brown like every time i saw him he was like making something out of nothing and then if he did catch the ball in space, it was like trying to tackle a hamster in the phone booth. It was hard. Then when you think about, you got my man Deion, and you can play him anywhere.

Imagine picking him up, putting him at a linebacker, just sliding him back manually, and then just cramming the line with a guy that big. And then I forgot, they got Pop Dumas too. Yeah, they do. They do. And then I forgot they got Pop Dumas too. Yeah, they do. They do.

And Chip Trainum is their number one back now from Ohio State and Arizona State. Yeah, they got Trainum. They got another back too that was cold. No, they were going to get Penny Boone, and then they didn't get him. There was an academic thing, couldn't transfer there, and so he wound up transferring elsewhere. But, yeah, one you sent me last night. I do want to point this out because I'm with this one.

Jackson Dart, the Ole Miss quarterback, darting next door. Because you know everybody in the student section knows party next door. So, of course, you could get some chants going. Yeah, I'm all for this one. Yeah, absolutely. You know, the quarterback is like the rock star anyway. I mean, Party Next Door is like the bad boy R&B singer. I think it's perfect, man.

So, one, we kick back and forth. And I did not send this instagram screenshot into river to put on the screen because i don't i wouldn't do this to dylan gabriel but dylan gabriel's girlfriend did him dirty because she gave him a nickname so zoe caswell that's the name of dylan gabriel's girlfriend takes a picture of dylan out in front of the oregon football complex he's about to about to go in for a day of Dylan Gabriel's girlfriend, takes a picture of Dylan out in front of the Oregon football complex. He's about to go in for a day of work, looks like. He's got a pink drink from Starbucks.

Bottoms up. And the caption is just, my pink drink boy. If I were one of Dylan Gabriel's Oregon teammates, he would never be called anything but pink drink boy after that. Never. Yeah, but but Dylan I'm here to save you I got one for you we're gonna call Dylan Gabriel not Dylan Gabriel but Dylan Gabriel like it like it and and one of the most accurate quarterbacks in college football will be throwing a lot in that offense. So Bo Nix, I think Bo Nix completed 79% of his passes last year in Oregon's offense. Dylan Gabriel is probably going to challenge that mark.

Yeah, absolutely. And then, too, it's almost like the Gus effect, right? Gus Malzahn, when he gets these type quarterbacks, he loves them because he understands the concepts. But for whatever reason, they don't always mesh the best with the offense. So now Gus has his type of guys that he needs at UCF. Like he's got two now. He's got KJ Jefferson and Jacare Brown.

And now you've got two of his former guys, Dylan Gabriel, by way of Oklahoma. But he was at UCF when Gus got there. Well, no, he was at UCF with Heupel. I think that he leave – yeah, when he got there, I think he left. Yeah, yeah. He was there with Heupel, left for Oklahoma. Because remember, he got injured the last year that Heupel was there. Yep.

I thought he got hurt. GroovyCo says, murder Mertz. I like that. Well, look, it could be like a Kirko chain situation. Like Kirk Cousins with the ice. Like you could have Graham Mertz. Like you just put some chains on him, you know, you get him, you get him looking like a rapper and I, and he'd be game for it.

Like he, he would know how to play into it. Like, because like you talk to the people at Florida, like Mertz is a dude, like the teammates love him. Everybody on the team loves him. He's not your typical, like, you know, team loves him. He's not your typical pretty boy quarterback. He's just not. This is a guy, he got hurt. His season ended last year at Missouri

because he dump trucked some dude and broke his collarbone. I think that would be... I think Matt's being sarcastic. Back in the day, there was a dude that played defensive line named William Perry that was known as the refrigerator. Yes, we're old. We remember the fridge. Who, by the way, would have been like an average-sized defensive lineman.

Yeah, absolutely. He paved the way. All right. Speaking of Clemson players, speaking uh of the Tigers great way great thank you thank you I thought I was gonna I thought I'd have to bring up Michael Dean Perry so I'm I'm glad we could do it with the fridge but Davo Sweeney was on Sirius XM's ACC radio with our friend Roddy Jones last week or this this week, sorry, it was recorded at Amelia Island at the ACC spring meetings. And Roddy, who we're going to have on this show next week,

had asked Dabo about Dabo using the transfer portal, because obviously that's been a whole thing where Clemson does not take transfers. This year, there were four FBS teams that did not take a single transfer, Army, Air Force, Navy, and Clemson. Now, only one of those does not require a congressional recommendation to go to school there. That would be Clemson. So here is Dabo explaining the lack of transfer portal use. There's three types of players in the portal. I mean, it's really pretty simple.

Most of the guys in the portal aren't good enough to play for us. Yeah. That's just the reality of it. I mean, we have guys that are backups at Clemson that go in the portal because they just want to have an opportunity. And most of them are graduates, by the way. But we have guys that are backups or, you know, they want a chance to go play. And I got no problem with that.

And so rarely do we have a starter leave Clemson. So, you know, you've got the majority of the guys, they're guys that are in the portal because they want to have a chance to go start somewhere. They're not playing where they are. They're not good enough to come in and play for us. And so we'd rather take a good high school player as long as we can get them uh which we do and and you develop them uh that's the first type the second type of guy that goes in the portal

is he's only going in the portal as a formality because the deal's already been done he knows where he's going before he ever goes in the in the portal so we're not getting that guy and then the third type of guy is going in the portal just to see what he can get and we're never going to win that war so um you know we we've we've been really fortunate uh because first of all we were established established, been there 16 years, and we don't have a lot of attrition. I mean, we had 127 guys go through spring ball and 125 are still on the roster, you know, after spring, post-portal, closing. So that's a miracle in today's world.

So when he says that's not a battle we're going to win, because that's who we're talking about. We're not talking about, like, Clemson isn't going to the transfer portal to build depth. They've got depth. They're going to the transfer portal, if they do it, to get a spot player to fill in where they have an immediate need. And that's the question.

Like, the Keon Coleman going to Florida State after spring last year, where they have an immediate need. And that's the question. The Keon Coleman going to Florida State after spring last year, Keon Coleman is that type of player that we're talking about. Or someone who can come in and fill, like, Caleb Downs going to Ohio State this year from Alabama. It would have to be somebody better than your current players or as good as your best current players. And what he's saying, there's two ways to interpret this i would think dukes like and they're both financially related clemson's collective doesn't have the money to make a

competitive offer to that type of player that's one one way of looking at it i think the more accurate way is probably they have some money but not so much that they could make a competitive offer and it wouldn't upset the pay scale of all the guys that they had retained yeah i think that's probably the the bigger issue like they paid to retain guys but they're not paying so much that they can really go break the bank on a transfer yeah and i think for the way that uh dabble kind of handles his locker room it's not a lot up front for guys who are unproven but the promise is come in do what you got to do you'll get an opportunity to play you do well i guarantee you we're going to get you out. You'll be okay. But if you bring in one of those million-dollar guys or $800,000 guys, what does that say to the guys that you told to wait your turn when the money, your spot that you were developing for and you played a little bit,

now that goes to Caleb Downs, well, that upsets your locker room. So I think in order to keep the culture there the way they have it, I'm not sure if Clemson has to – they can be a transfer portal player because of the way they teach it and the way they kind of set their culture. I just don't know – it doesn't marry up to what Dabo has kind of built. And go ahead, Andy. So the problem is – and you're right you're exactly right that is the that is what the issue is it doesn't marry up because it it kind of goes against what he's told all these guys that are already there but here's the problem you can't

compete at the level they want to compete at without getting those types of transfers. You saw what Ohio state did. Like Ohio state had good running backs. They got Quinn Sean Judkins. Ohio state had highly recruited safeties. They got Caleb downs. Like they are trying to win a national championship. Georgia had highly recruited receivers last year. They got Dominic Lovett and Rah-Rah Thomas. They're going to do that. Texas went and got Isaiah Bond and Amari Nye Black from Alabama. They want to win national championships and they're not particularly worried about people's feelings. Now, what we're talking about though, we are talking about money. The thing is, Texas can pay Isaiah Bond and Amari Nyblack

because Kelvin Banks is getting bank. Kelvin Banks is being taken care of. That's their left tackle. He's probably the most important player to retain on this team. And they retained him. But he's probably making so much that when they go get Isaiah Bond at a market value price,

it's not going to bother him. Right. Yeah. And this is the other thing. Dabo's been there. He just said, what'd he say? 16,

17 years. Yeah. He's probably one of the safest coaches when it comes to job security in all of college football. He's already delivered national championships. So he doesn't have the same. to job security in all of college football he's already delivered national championships so he doesn't have the same i don't think that he has the same amount of pressure on him as a ryan day does where you can have to say well you can say we got to go get caleb downs and we got to go get

quinshine jenkins and if the guy who was supposed to be next transfers so be it if the guys who we had developing have to transfer so be it do i think that it's a championship formula in today's day and age absolutely not i don't think it's that type of formula but what i will say is it works for dabbo and by the time things change as we alluded to earlier that you get to that point by the time things change it may shift back in his favor yeah and that's the thing i like i hadn't thought about this until i was watching that clip last night and then i'm like wait there's a path for dabbo to get right back in this thing because we've always assumed oh he's not willing to do it but if it is truly a money

thing if it's either they can't afford those guys or they can't afford to retain and pay those guys without messing stuff up, if it's just money, well, they're going to be able to pay from the school very soon. When they settle that house versus the NCAA case, they're going to be able to pay from the schools the schools will be sharing revenue all of a sudden Clemson's back in this thing baby because they will be able to afford that type of transfer and if that's the case watch out because they already do have a lot of really good homegrown players like they got a nasty homegrown d-line and they're always going to have a nasty homegrown d-line and i'll buy it and now if you can add like where do they need help usually offensive line receiver if you can drop in that one offensive lineman or the one receiver that

you need all of a sudden everything gets easier for you and they'll be one of the few teams that have a consistent culture. So, and I think this, and let's just get crazy here. In a time where, and one, so this kind of reminds me of when one and done came back in college basketball, and you saw all of these teams where the recruiting got so high and heavy, you knew you were only going to get them for a year. And Jalen Brunson and Villanova and that team that they built were able to win the NCAA championship without the one-and-done type guys that had stayed and been there because they were the best overall team.

We saw eventually in college basketball guys who had stayed and been together were the teams that became most successful. Then you saw more parity in these kind of, I don't want to say thrown-together teams, but the ones who had the best recruiting classes and like the Dukes when they had Zion and they had Cam Reddish and all of these guys, R.J. Baird, they didn't play as well when it got to crunch time. So now that you open up the playoff, maybe Clemson could become a dark horse if they get there because they have a team that's been together for multiple years that are used to the culture and who don't have guys coming in that kind of upset that locker room because everybody kind of knows what everybody is getting. And I think that's I think that maybe that bowls in Debo's favor.

Who knows? Maybe because here's the thing. They're still good enough to make the playoff right now. They might be good enough to win the ACC this year. They're certainly going to be competitive in the ACC this year. And if they go 10-2, there's a good chance they're in the playoff. So we'll probably be able to test your theory, which I love. And you're right about the basketball thing.

Like, I covered that Villanova team when it won the national title. Now, they were playing Michigan, and John Beeline was kind of doing some of the same stuff. But you're right. All of those one-and-done type teams had just sort of fallen by the wayside. The only really good one-and-done teams, like Carmelo at Syracuse, and that was before the, the one and done rule,

the, the age limit actually happened. And then you had the Anthony Davis, Michael kid, Gilchrist, your, your guy, Marcus T you're,

you're an honorary T cousin now that team at Kentucky. So that's the, that is, it's true. Like having guys that come up together that know how to play well here. And I think, I think that's also why in college football, you know, you saw Stetson Bennett lead Georgia to two national titles as a quarterback. Like you, you still don't have to have like super elite first rounder to win a national title. Like you can't win a Superbowl without

the super elite quarterback, but in college football, if you've got enough talent around and a good culture, you can win. Yeah, that team had a quarterback on defense. I don't know if you remember N'Kobe Dean, where he grabbed. Yeah, he was elite in every way. Yeah, N'Kobe grabs Channing Tindall by the face mask and says, get over here. Or I don't know if it's the face mask or the collar,

but he grabbed them yeah and on defense tells him to get here and then the next play he goes out and gets a sack i mean those i think college football has so much more of that than any other sport just because the guy next to you impacts what you have to do and they're at an age where if you can create young leaders it goes a lot further than it happens in the NFL. Because in the NFL, all these guys were the guy. But on a college level, I think that when you can create leaders in pockets, I think it has much more of an impact than any other sport. So Matt Long in the chat says, I don't think Dabo understands the definition of attraction or who to major this new age of color or how this, this new age of roster

management works. Clemson football has digressed. They have digressed. They have digressed. They don't have the freak receivers they used to have. They haven't had one of those guys since T Higgins left. Like think about the run of receivers they had, and it could be the highly recruited guys like Sammy Watkins, new Copkins.

It can be the under the radar guys that they develop like Adam Humphries or Hunter Renfro T Higgins and Mari Rogers. Like this, these were all studs at receiver. They have not been able to hit on those. Now maybe that's Jeff Scott leaving to become a USF head coach and Jeff's Jeff's around now because he's not at USF anymore. But, uh, and I believe he's still he's living back up in Clemson so you know there's there's a possibility that that all happens again

but they've got to get that part straight and whether that's out of the portal or at a high school and you develop them you you have to have dynamic receivers again and for whatever reason they can't seem to make them anymore so that that part has to be figured out. Everybody always needs help on the offensive line, except maybe one or two teams like LSU this year, Georgia this year, maybe they don't, but everybody usually could, could use one more good offensive lineman. So if Clemson could just find a way to add, I'm just saying like two or three a year, I'm just saying like two or three a year. I'm not saying wholesale. Two or three a year, people that you can vet who would fit into your culture,

who are just really good players, Clemson is back in national title contention. If they won't do that or can't do that, they will never get back. Absolutely. And one of my biggest theories has always been the decline of Auburn and the rise of Clemson kind of coincided. And a lot of times those battles between Columbus or Central Phoenix City all the way back across East Georgia. When Clemson won those battles, then these guys who didn't go to Georgia,

it was usually down to Auburn and Clemson. When Clemson won those battles, they were better. Case in point, Central Phoenix City had a pipeline of Clemson at one time, and they used to always go to Auburn. And Auburn fans were livid because how do you let these guys get out of state? Justin Ross, a couple of years ago out of Central Phoenix City, was one of those dynamic receivers. Before his injury, he was on a humongous pace.

He destroyed Alabama in the national title game. Destroyed them. Yeah, absolutely. Well, this year, Justin Ross went to Auburn and Cam Coleman. Central Phoenix City, same guy. Clemson used to get those guys. Like, they still got Peter Woods. Like, they were getting guys out of Alabama.

Hugh Freeze, and I'm not being a homer at all. I'm just keeping it a book. It's true. This is very true. Keeping these guys in Alabama and Georgia's dominance and Georgia going back into Georgia, a lot of times, like in here, in Atlanta, they always talk about Georgia doesn't recruit Atlanta. Well, now they are.

They're going to get the kids from the metro area. And these are kids who used to go to Clemson. Like the biggest thing is Georgia didn't want Deshaun Watson. And, you know, and he wanted to go to Auburn. And Clemson ended up with him. Well, what did that do for Clemson? Georgia's not letting these top guys get out of state as much as they used to, and I think that has a big thing to do when it comes to where Clemson digress

and why, to your point, the transfer portal is going to be important for them to fill in these spots. Yeah, and I think when the schools can pay it i think clemson's back because i think they'll have similar amounts well you just have to divert the money from somewhere else you know you you right they've they've got money it's not like georgia money but but they've got some money they they can handle it. So that's going to be fun to watch. All right. One more thing I want to talk about before we sign off for the weekend. So one of our brethren in sports media

took a new job this week. So Doug Gottlieb, you know him, you love him. He's got a radio show on Fox Sports. He's a former college basketball player. He played at Notre Dame and Oklahoma State. He was a very good player. He got hired this week as the new head coach at Wisconsin Green Bay. And you're thinking, okay, what's Wisconsin Green Bay?

Well, it's a Division I basketball program, plays in the Horizon League. And it is the job that Bruce Pearl had before he got the Tennessee job. So you can do some stuff at Wisconsin Green Bay. Doug is going to keep doing his three-hour-a-day radio show while coaching the basketball team. And so this got me thinking about a couple of things, Dukes. First of all, we do shows. Can you imagine doing your show and then having to coach a Division I team?

No way. No way possible. No way. I'm thinking about this more as a host than I am as someone who talks about sports. Doug has a national radio show, so he doesn't have to go super deep on every topic, but he does have to be somewhat informed on most topics. And, and usually like when you're national radio show,

you're going to talk a lot of NFL, a lot of NBA. The NFL playoffs are in the middle of his regular season. So is he going to be preparing for Oakland or is he going to be watching the chiefs and the Texans in the playoffs? Like he's not worried about his, his performance as a coach. Or is he going to be watching the Chiefs and the Texans in the playoffs? I'm not worried about his performance as a coach. I'm worried about his takes because Doug is known for the blazing hot takes.

I don't know if he can get them blazing hot enough if he's not paying attention. Yeah, and then, too, when it comes to recruiting, how much of a hot take do you want in some things, right? Because your takes, those takes are really important to how people feel about you as a person. And so when you're recruiting, you don't want to, especially recruiting at mid-major level, you can't afford to have a couple of guys who may be considering Wisconsin versus Wisconsin Green Bay because they like you as a coach, but the parent doesn't like what you had to say on a certain hot topic. So I think it's a really, really thin line to kind of travel.

But I think it could be done. You see Coach Prime doing it. You see Deion does everything in the world, plus coach. I mean, Amazon and Fox had him out with Tom Brady. Yeah, he was at the upfronts yesterday. Yep. Yeah, so I think it can be done. And I think the biggest thing is going to be delegation and creating that next guy who, if he's not there,

not even figuratively, I mean, like, yeah, I mean, literally. If he's not there literally, figuratively he's not there, can somebody pick the show up for him? And I think that's going to be important. Every day, I don't think what people understand about what we do, no matter what's going on in your life, you've got to wake up and be here to do it. Andy Staple doesn't have to have a great night to have a great day on this show because he's a professional.

But there are days that you may be mad as hell when you went to band and you wake up mad, but you still got to come on here and joke and play and be same Andy Staples. Imagine doing that when your star point guard, Lord forbid, does something crazy

at a frat house, and now you got to go on the radio show, and your team is in shambles i hope he can do it i'm rooting for him but i think it's going to be tough i think the radio show is going to be the harder part like the coaching part might be like he he may decide i love the coaching that's all i want to do radio is done but the radio i think the radio like because i've i had a period in my life when i when i was so there's about three months where i was at si so si is my full-time job and and then

now this the radio show lasts a year i had a daily radio show on series xm three hours a day for a And then three months of that year, I was also ghostwriting a book. So I was a walking zombie the entire day, every day. I barely functioned. So I feel Doug Gottlieb. I feel what he's about to feel. I know what that feels like. And you're going to have to pick one or the other, I I think just because you're going to want some balance in your life. You're going to want a little quality in your life, but it got me thinking Dukes, like who in college football, what coach could host a radio show, Samuel?

And you mentioned coach prime. I think coach prime is more of a podcast. Like, I feel like he, like what Shannonannon sharp's done with club shea shea like that's coach prime so he doesn't like coach prime wouldn't have to do daily i think coach prime because he could draw such quality guests like he only needs to do one a week and just a very impactful interview that's going to go viral so he, he's actually perfect for that. Cause he could still do the job. Now, if,

if he would go to a recruits house to do the interview there, it'd be even better. Yeah. I ain't touching that one. That's right. Y'all, y'all are best buds now. So,

but, but that would be good. I'm trying to think, cause these guys are so siloed. Like they don't know what's going on in the world. Like, cause today, prime example, it's Friday morning. It's 8 57 AM Eastern time. The whole world is talking about Scotty Scheffler getting detained, going into the PGA championship. Cause he, there's like a, the police were investigating.

Somebody got hit by a bus, like some pedestrian, a pedestrian got hit by a bus. Police are investigating. And I guess Scheffler rolled past the police when they told him to stop. And so they pulled him out of the car, put him in handcuffs and took him to jail. And he's been released,

I guess now, but like, that's the sort of thing you have to be able to speak on, like, right away. And I'm trying to think of, like, any of these major college football coaches. Like, they wouldn't know anything about that. They'd have no clue it happened. They'd have no idea what to say.

Matt Rule at Nebraska is the only one I could think of that actually might be able to pull it off. Because he does seem like he can talk about just about anything you know you know the reason i'm gonna say this guy is because they're very active on twitter and that's lane kiffin yeah i think lane he pays attention to everything on like i see him tweet so much and in times where like you'll like even when you look at his likes, like, that's how you measure Twitter activity about what you like. Yeah. Not what you tweet, but what you like. I think that Lane is going to be – he could be like a Jim Rome,

like, if he wanted to. Like, where it's like you want to hear what he has to say. He's going to say stuff that rubs people the wrong way at times, and he's going to stuff that rubs people the wrong way at times and he's gonna do things his way and he has a game like a large like pretty much base to speak on as far as his life of growing up the son of one of the pioneers of football um being a head coach uh personal life i think he has enough to where he podcast would be good too. If Lane would do the Howard Stern thing where he talks about his home life, I'm in

for that because I've seen those TikToks. But I don't think his personality is actually very introverted in person. He doesn't like to talk into microphones. Oh, I didn't know that. But the thing is, once he starts talking he he goes so yeah i which

actually is kind of like howard stern like he's a very introverted like don't bother me kind of person but when he start when he starts going on the mic he just he just goes so like yeah what about my how my gunny would absolutely now we i think we know what kind of radio show that would be and look let's be honest there's a lot of money in those radio shows so i think my gunny would would definitely be able to pull that off so that's oh that's tremendous that's right i think but i think those that's probably the list right oh i'll give you another one i'll give you another one because this guy actually it it was his career ambition. It's what he actually went to college trying to learn to do,

and he wound up in football coaching. Former Texas and current Florida Atlantic coach Tom Herman. Ooh. Also, Tom Herman wants to be a DJ on SiriusXM Fly, like on the old school hip hop channel. Are you serious? Oh, yeah. And would be, like, his selection would be good.

I think he could curate that playlist very well. You know him? Oh, yeah. Man, all right. Andy, hey, we got to do, like, when you bring him on, like, please let me be there. Yes. Oh, we had him on during spring practice. So we'll have Tom come on, and we can talk hip-hop with Tom,

and you will be shocked because, you know, he leaned into it hard when he was at Houston. Like, you know, Paul Wall, Bun B, Slim Thug, all those guys, obviously huge in Houston, like Slim Thug, all those guys, obviously huge in Houston, like Slim Thug and Ed Oliver from the same neighborhood. So lean into that. He's leaning into Kodak Black now. That's what I said.

I was like, who's a Palm Beach County rapper? He's like, we don't really have a Palm Beach County rapper. But we'll take Kodak Black and we'll take Ace Hood because there's one county down. It's fine. So, yeah, it would be an interesting conversation. But that's a guy. Now, I don't think he'd know anything that came out in the last 10 years. But I think he would curate very well on the old school station.

No, nice. I like it. Okay. Tom, he's on my list. Now I got to go check out Tom Herman. Oh, yeah. Oh, you two need to talk you you would you would get along very well so good well if there's anybody else y'all

think would make a good football coach slash radio host slash show host like i'm just trying to think dukes the whole gotley thing like imagine like i had to do this show or you were still doing your show and they're like hey dukes could you also drive down to make it and coach DBs at Mercer? No. No. And then especially, too, man, think about this. At the level he's coaching it, he's got to develop guys. It ain't just, you know, you're walking in and you got all of these guys and you just need to call plays and it's going to run on cruise control.

In order for them to be successful, he's going to have to do some hell of a lot of coaching. And I think, man, even playing ball, even with your kid, when you're trying to get them to get a specific concept and they just can't get it and they have to become a rep guy, which means where you just got to keep doing it and keep doing it and keep doing it. And you know what you're looking for. And this guy just doesn't get it.

Even though you can't show that, that frustration is still inward. It's got to go somewhere at some point in time, that frustration, you got to let it out. And then I think the hardest part about being a host, like I said earlier, is being the host every day. You got to be the host. It doesn't matter what's going on. It doesn't matter if you're sick. It doesn't matter how you feel. You got to be the host.

And I think – so the coaching part, like you said, I think being the host, the coaching part may be even more easy. But I just think having to be somebody, be quote-unquote in character every day, that's tough, especially not just for a local audience but for a national audience. Yeah, that's a tough one. It's hard. Ryan says Mike Leach would have been a great one. So I worked with guys at SiriusXM who worked with Leach when he did radio.

Not great on the radio. God bless him. I love Mike Leach. Not great on the radio. Would have been an amazing podcast guy, but like hardcore history type podcast. not great on the radio. God bless him. I love Mike Leach. Not great on the radio. Would have been an amazing podcast guy, but like hardcore history type pocket, like four hour long podcast.

That's what you're getting from Mike Leach. He's just going everywhere. And that's so Leach and coach prime would be your podcasters. And we'll give rule Matt Rule and Tom Herman radio shows. And Mike Gundy. And Mike Gundy is making the most money of anybody. Everybody. Yeah.

You know how that stuff's going. Right. Dukes, it has been a pleasure. Thank you so much. Have a wonderful weekend. All of you, have a wonderful weekend. On Monday's show, big special guest, Luke Fickle, the head coach of the Wisconsin Badgers, will join us.

You know we'll talk wrestling. We always end up talking wrestling with Luke Fickle. Have a great weekend, everybody. We'll talk to you on Monday. We'll talk to you on Monday.