Andy & Ari On3 - The Ten Commandements of Bill Belichick’s bible | A Texas QB2-step?

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Andy and Ariane 3. Happy Wendy's Sausage Take Wednesday and hopefully you can hear us today. As we tried this yesterday and you couldn't hear us and it was terrible. I kept saying, why are you jumping? Why are you jumping? That was what Brian Kelly was saying to the receiver
Starting point is 00:00:19 during the Florida game. I'm just looking at the comments waiting to see we get here. Alright, let's go. Alright, baby. Uh yeah, that was that frustrating yesterday morning but it's good to be back live with you guys. The show feels better when there's people here. I don't know. I agree. I love you but I love when they're there. So, um we have a lot to talk about. We covered a lot yesterday. Um we talked on the phone. We got
Starting point is 00:00:44 portal stuff. Andy, I don't wanna steal your job. Go ahead and do that but I'm excited to get into the show today. You know what? Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, you need to lead the show every once in a while. This is an equal partnership. You like you need to do this. We need to let you drive. I'm here's the thing about that and somebody asked me about that. Like I'm a two guard and I'm okay with that. You know what I mean? Not everybody can be the point guard. I don't feel like
Starting point is 00:01:11 I'm a point guard though. I'm more of a power forward. Yeah. Well, you do a really good job of if it's me, we just would never get to the segments and stuff. We would just be rambling like you do a good job of I feel like more reps more reps driving you would get that. This is exactly what I'm dealing with with my 15 year old son learning to drive. Like I'm scared to take him on the road.
Starting point is 00:01:33 I've been having him go in the parking lot. My wife goes out on the first lesson with him and she's like, we're going on the road. The first time I ever drove with my dad, I accidentally cut somebody off and the person honked and flipped us off and my dad like ran or like leaned over the driver's seat as I was driving and yelled through the window,
Starting point is 00:01:53 he's learning. And I'm like, man. How do they know that? Now they have the little magnets that they put in the back of the car. It said new driver, be patient, which I feel like that's too much information. I feel like you may as well just put car jack me on the back,
Starting point is 00:02:06 but that's... But he was like, they're alert. He was like, he, you know, that was, I got road rage on my first ever attempt to drive and he was upset that they weren't patient with me. I'm like, dad, they don't know that. They don't know that I'm learning. The blind spot's real. Like That's the hardest thing to learn,
Starting point is 00:02:26 I think, when you first get there. It's like you think you look in the rear view mirror or those passenger side mirror, and you can see everything and you can't. And I learned that the hard way the first time. Yeah, and you're like, oh, my parents are joking about that. They're not really a blind spot. They wouldn't actually have a blind spot in a car. No, it's there.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Yeah. Well, speaking of blind spots, we have we have a zero self-awareness award to hand out. So there's an Ohio lawmaker who has now presented a bill in the state, I believe, state House of Representatives, state rep Josh Williams from Sylvania Township introduced the Ohio Sportsmanship Act on Tuesday. There's dots between the letters in Ohio, so I'm sure it stands for something. I don't really want to know what that is, but House Bill 700 would quote, prohibit planting a flagpole and a flag
Starting point is 00:03:18 in the center of the Ohio Stadium football field on the day of a college football game. stadium football field on the day of a college football game. This is the softest thing. Anyone has ever done, I think, like does Representative Josh have any idea how soft he sounds? You know, I'm not a big politics government guy. Like I don't like somebody had to teach me what the three branches of government were the other day but just as a naive thought like don't these people have anything to do like aren't there a lot of aren't there a lot of stuff to have that needs to be done that is important like I'm sure the state of Ohio has more pressing issues but I'm actually I mean Josh is
Starting point is 00:04:01 doing Josh is so soft that I'm shocked he didn't put into the law that if Michigan is up on Ohio State in the fourth quarter, you're allowed to pepper spray Michigan players. You know what would be a good law in Ohio is if a Michigan running back breaks a 40-yard run in the fourth quarter, they're arrested moving forward. So they could, because that's probably the only way they can stop all their problems. I don't know what that's all about. And honestly speaking, it's just like, the thing that I think is so funny about it, Andy, too, is that like the game of football in general is just inherently violent.
Starting point is 00:04:39 And that's like, I, if you, if you want to stop from a, a brawl to break out, like I, I mean, I guess I could understand that but like that at the same time the entire game of football is one big brawl so like I just Well, here's the thing. I don't really understand what these people are doing with their time I got yeah, if you don't want the flag planted on your field, don't lose. It's very simple Yeah, don't lose. Yeah. I mean I was the one I was at the Baker Mayfield game in Columbus. Yeah. And that was like the first time anyone did that. Or like that was like the beginning of it, right?
Starting point is 00:05:13 Like Baker started this. Yeah, I think so. I I'm sure somebody did it years and years ago. But that's the that's the most recent one that sort of launched it back into this. I just remember thinking it was like 2016 or 17. And I remember thinking, because the flag fell over after he planted it. And I was like, Baker, it's turf.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Imagine how far you would have to plant the flag to get it to stick in there. You can hurt yourself with your elbow or something. But yeah, I don't know. Here's the thing, that's the thing about the trophy games in the Big 10. You don't have to worry about a flag planting or anything like that in a trophy game, because the players are so
Starting point is 00:05:53 bent on getting to the trophy. Like, I remember I was watching Wisconsin, Minnesota this year. And when they brought Paul Bunyan's axe out, like you could see the Minnesota sideline like so Minnesota and that was they won the game at Camp Randall. They had no interest in doing anything on the W because they wanted to go get that axe. So maybe that's maybe that's what the trophy games. Maybe that was the point. Maybe that's what maybe that's why they go get Floyd of Rosedale.
Starting point is 00:06:24 You know what I do a lot? I think about if I were an elite level athlete at Michigan or Ohio State or Bama or anywhere else and I was like really, really good, right? Like and I was a star of my team or I did made a huge play or whatever how I would act. And I think I would act just like these people. Like everyone's like go act like you've been there before and you know win with class and stuff. Like do you know how insanely and insufferable I would be if I were like a good football player? I have some ideas. My entire football playing
Starting point is 00:07:00 career though limited through high school was just offensive line. And offensive linemen don't get the flex very often. Like if you're running back who breaks off a run or you have a huge pick or you do something that involves making a play on the ball that alters a game and you're going to get drafted and stuff like they would the SID would never bring me out for media interviews. Like I'll tell you that right now. Like because like I actually think that like, just in general, as, as just a boilerplate take it just like the frowned upon, like being that it's frowned upon to shit talk to me is so stupid. It's like, Oh, we don't want anybody to say anything disrespectful. It's a game of football. Be disrespectful. Talk your talk your stuff. You know what I mean? Like why? I just don't understand why everybody's got to be, Oh, well, it's a great opponent and you know, we're looking forward to the challenge. It's like, you know, if somebody sucks, they suck. Say it. My favorite though is when somebody says that they think their team's going to win and everybody's like, Oh, bulletin board material. Like, no, no, no, no. It's okay if you think you're going to win.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Do you know what is really good bulletin board material? It's okay if you think you're gonna win. Do you know what is really good bulletin board material? Your draft stock. I don't know what, like, if it's just me, but it's just like, if somebody goes, oh yeah, well they stink. It's like, what's gonna drive a young man more trying to show up their opponent
Starting point is 00:08:19 who was talking crap before the game or a young man who wants to put tape out there to become a millionaire. It's like, I think they're, everybody's already motivated as much as they can be motivated in my opinion. I don't know if you buy into that stuff. Do you think that like if you say something before a game and it's bulletin board material that you're more likely to lose? No, I don't think you're more likely to lose. I think you're more likely to get made fun of if you lose. Yeah, that's and that's fine. And that and then around and
Starting point is 00:08:42 around we go like you know, you always talk about how this is an entertainment product and why are we? Yeah, I agree. Why are we? Well, you know what's so crazy Andy? And this is a weird take. All right. So like I always, this is just me.
Starting point is 00:08:56 And I know there's people out there that like MMA and boxing and stuff. But for me, like I watched the Tyson, that gimmick fight, who did he fight? Jake Paul fight. Yeah. And like the buildup to actual boxing, to me is more entertaining than the actual boxing.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Like I'll never forget, like I went to the Kentucky Derby, I think it was 2015 and was outside drinking with my friends all day and was absolutely smutting, like hammered. And then we paid like $200 each to go into a bar. Cause the same night of the Kentucky Derby was the night of the Pacquiao Floyd Mayweather fight. And like, if you remember the hype of that, like it was, Oh yeah. And the fight itself was boring as hell. And then you watch the fight.
Starting point is 00:09:37 And I'm just like, well, that sucks. And I kind of feel like every time I watch boxing, it kind of comes down to that. And it's like, but the one thing that boxing and MMA has mastered is the art of the pregame trash talk. And it makes everything more interesting. And you can tell a lot of times after the fight, when they hug, like, oh, all that stuff before was fake.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Yeah, all of that was fake. And I get that part of it's for the promotion. But could you imagine, like, if Will Johnson, well, he didn't play in the Ohio State game, but whatever. Will Johnson before the Ohio State game goes, yeah, Jeremiah Smith thinks he's the number one receiver. We'll see about that. Like, why can't people say that? And if you lose, you get made fun of, but like, why is it frowned upon? Why is it bad sportsmanship? It should be part of the game. I would plant the flag on everybody's field. I'd plant, if I were on Alabama's team and we beat Mercer,
Starting point is 00:10:29 I would plant my flag on Mercer's field. Like that's who I would be. So I don't- I personally can't wait to see Alabama go to Mercer. I think that's going to be quite a day when Alabama rolls into making Georgia. But- Hey, listen, listen, they're athletic directors.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I'm not too keen on scheduling big games anymore. So you never know. There you go. There you go. Ari, it is a Wendy's sausage take Wednesday. We've got some saucy takes, but first of all, we had a little transfer portal update. One of your favorite players that you followed as a recruit
Starting point is 00:11:01 is now in the transfer portal. USC's Deuce Robinson wide receiver, but a big wide receiver, kind of a flex tight end ish player, but Deuce Robinson in the portal. He strikes me as somebody who will go somewhere else and become a first round pick in like a tenure NFL player, doesn't he?
Starting point is 00:11:22 Uh, well, you might overstating it. I don't know. Yes, Lincoln Riley's? Well, you think. Am I overstating it? I don't know. Yes, Lincoln Riley's offense is usually pretty good. Yeah, I mean, he's young. Here's this. Here's what I'll tell you. And I think I've said this either on this show or the last show I was on.
Starting point is 00:11:39 But I went to the Elite 11 when he was a high school senior and at the Elite 11, it's a quarterback camp that, if you're not familiar with it, where the top 20 or 25 guys in the country at the quarterback position go and compete in shorts against each other. But in order to compete as a quarterback, you have to have wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:11:58 And one year there was this kid out there that was just massive and running like a freight train and catching everything. And I was like, who the hell is that? It was the athletic Antonio Morales was next to me. And I know Bruce Feldman had written a big thing and he goes, that's Deuce Robinson. I'm like, oh, okay. It makes sense now.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Cause it was like, even on the field with all these elite level quarterbacks, like he was the one that like was standing out to everybody. And like ever since then, when you think about how much a mismatch creating big body tight end who's as athletic as he is can do to an offense to unlock some stuff. Like I was certain that he would be an elite level player in college. Now that hasn't manifested into reality yet, but I'd pay money for this guy. I don't know about you Andy. At this point in his career, I'd back up a brain
Starting point is 00:12:44 struck for him. I don't know about you Andy at this point in his career. I'd I'd back up a brainstruck form. Yeah, cause the question is, you know, what was the usage? How did it work? He averaged 17 yards of catch. He just he didn't have that many catch. The only 23 catches this year, and so we're going to find out. What is going on with the USC offense? I think because it feels like a lot of the USC offense is going to be somewhere else next year. I don't know if it's all going to be the same place.
Starting point is 00:13:06 That's one thing that our guy Pete Nacos floated is Miller Moss maybe bringing a convoy with him wherever he goes. And it might be some of these skilled guys that come with. So we might have like a side by side comparison as of next year. Is Deuce Robinson just a receiver now or is he a tight end? I mean officially a receiver. So Deuce Robinson, there's another guy in the portal named Caleb Odom who was a freshman at Alabama last year who didn't he didn't do much at Alabama but I remember being there in spring and like
Starting point is 00:13:37 Jalen Milro is super excited about him. He is a big receiver who you could call a tight end you could call a tight end. You could call a receiver, probably would be that kind of flex tight end. But again, it's semantics. He's out there running routes. So Deuce Robinson, Caleb Odom, kind of the same boat. I believe Caleb Odom was a high school teammate
Starting point is 00:13:59 of Julian Lewis. So I do wonder if maybe Colorado's in his future. Deuce Robinson though also a baseball player. So he played baseball at USC. Possible he's looking to play both sports at the next school as well. Yeah, during his recruitment were people wondering if he would go to the baseball or the MLB draft. It's not like he just played baseball in high school. He was like a, a actual baseball, like pro prospect. So yeah. Uh, do you want to have the, what's going on at USC discussion now or are you, is your belly still full?
Starting point is 00:14:35 You want to throw up the appetizers and get this out of there too? Like, I mean, we, uh, just said spend a thousand dollars on a dinner the other night being wrong about this guy. I don't know. Are we ready for that yet? Are we ready? Has USC lost enough at this point in the portal? To feel ready for that.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Because they do have some of the more like I know one of the more coveted portal prospects. Keeshawn Silver, the D tackle from Kentucky has USC and his his group of finalists. So this is my question for you, Ari, and maybe too early to answer this. Will USC net out more talented or less talented at the end of this portal cycle? Less.
Starting point is 00:15:18 OK. Well, I also think that part of my calculus here is their awful signing day. Right, right. Because they got they got they got one five star. Why am I blanking on the D Tackle who is who's reclassified? But then a lot of the guys,
Starting point is 00:15:38 the kid who who committed on signing day. Yes. Jakeem Stewart, Jakeem Stewart. That's who I'm sorry, but that is pretty much it as far as What they thought that class was gonna be and Hassan Longstreet, obviously, it's not long street the quarterback But if you go back to the summer, they thought that class was gonna look completely different Yeah, didn't they lose ten blue chips
Starting point is 00:16:04 Just as Terry Drake stubs like those guys were committed to USC at one point and ended up going elsewhere. And you know what another another thought processes to first of all, I think Lincoln Riley's just done a terrible job recruiting in general since he got to USC. And I'd be genuinely curious and hopefully one day I'll be able to have a conversation with with him or somebody at USC about this but like. It's been so bad in the state of California, Andy. I'm not even sure if it's intentional or not.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Like it's getting to the point now where it's like, does he have a line in the sand that is just like we don't want California players but we can't come out and say that just in case we do one day. Or has it just been that bad? Like it's like they are ignoring the state. It's weird. It is strange and it looks bad like when you go play Michigan
Starting point is 00:16:48 and Mason Graham is dominating at Michigan and Courtney Morgan who's from California who's now the GM at Alabama was the guy who found him for Michigan. Now I know USC tried to get Courtney Morgan away from Alabama, but they didn't get Courtney Morgan away from Alabama. Like everything they've tried to do to improve the recruiting and well,
Starting point is 00:17:08 recruiting is probably the wrong word at this point. The player personnel situation because we're talking portal and we're talking high school recruiting. Everything's not worked and it feels like their talent level is going down instead of up. And I don't understand that. Two points. One is, and I've thought about this a lot over the years, but like getting five star prospects to come to your school is hard, right? But you know what's really important is your conversion rate on hits when you actually
Starting point is 00:17:42 get them and USC's conversion rate has been terrible. And I think they've gotten four five-star prospects in the first two recruiting cycles of Lincoln Riley's tenure there. Domani Jackson, the corner he transferred. He's at Alabama. Malachi Nelson was either a miss evaluation or just you know not a good fit. At Boise State. And then Deuce Robinson now is in the portal. That's three of the four and the other one's Zach Branch and I think they probably are are hoping they can hold on to him right now. So like their fingers are crossed right now for Zach Branch. So you can't go over first of all, I thought that USC when I made that bet
Starting point is 00:18:14 that led us to our beautiful dinner the other night that they were going to be signing five-star prospects like left and right. I thought that every single big-time kid in California was going to go there. I thought that they were going to be California cool. I thought they were going to take away from Oregon. But instead, they've gotten their ass kicked by Oregon in the state of California. And they've tried to go outward to Georgia and Texas and places and they've had some success there, but I've had a lot of heartbreak too, because guess what, it's hard to, it's easy to get a commitment from a kid in Georgia, it's hard to get them to sign. So like, I just don't know. Like, and the second point I wanted to make, Andy, is, is like, what do you cling to?
Starting point is 00:18:45 Like, that's the thing. And I, and I've seen Antonio Morales say this, and I agree with him. It's like, what is USC's identity as a program? Like, was it getting great quarterback, having awesome offense, and just being Oklahoma, you know, SoCal? Or do they actually have a mission statement or a drive to beat? Like, what are they? I don't even know what they are. That's the other problem is, like, the offensive recruiting is not what it was either. Cause I was thinking about this yesterday. It's not like Lincoln just used the players Bob Stoops left for him to succeed.
Starting point is 00:19:16 He had it going in Oklahoma. They won four big 12 titles in a row. And they had good players coming in. Now not good linemen, but they had good players coming in and they were beating Texas. You know, I think if you want to make a case that the big 12 wasn't as good, you know, from top to bottom during those years as the Pac 12 and the big 10 were the last three. I could listen to that. 10 were the last three. I could listen to that. But at the same time too, they were still beating Texas and they were competitive against Georgia in a bowl game in a playoff game. So they were competitive when they played out of the conference to it wasn't it wasn't like that. So it's not just that he took over what Bob Stoops left and didn't build on it. He did. But he hasn't built anything since he got the USC, you know, the beginning at you. Remember how hot they were when they got to USC when he got to USC. He gets Jordan Addison in the portal. Who was the bullet in the cough winner. They got Solomon Bird who is a very, you know, a good contributor on the defensive line. Like they got contributors out of the portal who are really good.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Like Jordan Addison was a first round draft pick, right? he I know he's Blowing up in the in the NFL right now but They have not gotten the last splash they made in the portal really was Barry Alexander and then that didn't work out And I think we we now understand that and why? Woody Marks was a great pickup in the portal this year. But like there are lots of good running backs in the portal.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Like you should be able to find a good running back in the portal. I just don't I just know does he not have the stomach? For the recruiting that is required to win in the Big Ten. Because I think, I believe he was leaving Oklahoma to not go to the SEC. I think he did not want any part of recruiting in the SEC. Well, here's the question that I have. And I guess like it was kind of a debate at the time.
Starting point is 00:21:20 And I think it's probably unequivocally not a debate anymore. But like when you stack up the pantheon of program, like when he left the time, did USC even hold a candle to what Oklahoma is and was at the time? Like from just a stature. I'm just saying like a stature, you know, brand recognizable, recognizable ability and you know, all these things things like or did he take a huge step down from job to job? Well, I'll be curious to see like how does
Starting point is 00:21:52 he how does he spin this if they indeed wind up netting less talent in the portal because. He went into last season making excuses. He went into last season saying I'm not a magician. Look at what I took over and again if you're in year three you don't get to say look He went into last season making excuses. He went into last season saying, I'm not a magician. Look at what I took over. And again, if you're in year three, you don't get to say, look at what I took over anymore. This is a different era of college football.
Starting point is 00:22:13 That's no longer valid. If you're saying the same things going to year four that you were saying going into year three, you're pre-making the same excuses, you've got a huge problem. Andy, what's the one excuses. You've got a huge problem. So Andy, I don't know what's losing that Lincoln Riley is doing at the moment that gives you hope that they'll be good next year.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Nothing. Nothing. There's nothing that seems like they are going to get better. Now, if he goes in the portal and grabs a quarterback that wows you, maybe why? I know. That's the one thing they're supposed to get be guaranteed to have right and they don't. And I don't know if Jane Myall is that
Starting point is 00:22:56 and maybe who's on Longstreet is. But if it, but if he is, why wasn't he your first choice? That said, Caleb Williams was also not his first choice. Brock Vanagriff was that year. Maybe the key is being his second choice, but I also don't think that in year three of the USC build that they should be relying on a true freshman to be ready and good enough to play. You're four.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Yeah, you're four. Is it your four already? Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. It's not a good situation. It's not. I hope you enjoyed your dinner, though. I loved my dinner. Oh, let's talk about dinner River. Do we have those? Do we have those files?
Starting point is 00:23:35 Those videos? Yes, so this is the $325 Tomahawk. That Lincoln Riley's lack of playoff success or lack of getting into the playoff got me. For those who don't know, on the old show, when Lincoln Riley was hired at USC, Ari predicted massive success. I said, it's a little bit harder than you think it is. And I said they wouldn't make the playoff
Starting point is 00:24:01 within the first three years of Lincoln Riley at USC. And Ari said they would, and we bet $1,000 on it. Well, when they didn't make the playoff, again this year, we went to Bourbon Steak in Nashville and I ran up a tab so that Ari could pay off the bet. And that's the tomahawk, that's a Wagyu tomahawk. What you saw cooking on that rock was a Japanese wagyu New York strip, I believe. This is the thing at Bourbon Steak though, the fries. So instead of giving you
Starting point is 00:24:33 bread, they give you these three buckets of fries and one has white cheddar on it. One has Parmesan and one has dill. This is so much better. So much better. Well, I was like, at least, you know, if I was gonna spend, you know, $1,000 on a dinner, or a bet, at least you allowed me to partake in it. So that was nice of you. I also am happy that I was able to pay off a bet with credit card points, so that's good. And, you know, I'm happy that we was able to pay off a bet with credit card points.
Starting point is 00:25:05 So that's good. And I'm happy that we got to have a good time and River the producer was there. He said it was the best meal he's ever had and he's still a young kid and treating him to his first ever experience was a joy too watching him eat this. Cuz the poor kid didn't even eat, he had the menu open and they're like, what would you like? He's like, I don't know how to order this River ordered very well though. He got he got the American Wagyu fillet. It looked spectacular
Starting point is 00:25:32 He didn't offer me a piece though. So we'll talk about that after the show. Well, I thought that piece of my tomahawk So I thought that that was one of the top ten dinners I've ever had in my life maybe it was it was spectacular they did a very good job and the service was awesome. And we're not, we're not getting paid to advertise, but they were very good. I want to ask the chat this, because I ordered just about every side on the menu, because they were only like $16 and I had to get to the thousand somehow. Well, I'm just saying, like we got we got there. We actually went over. So, yeah, we did go over. Creamed corn. I saw people were making fun of me for that.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I was making fun of you for that while we were in the restaurant. Why is that such a weird order? Because it's what you feed a baby. It's not what you eat needed a fancy steakhouse. It's on the menu. Cause maybe somebody brings babies. So what do you think of cream spinach? Cause you eat that at a steakhouse.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Don't you? I don't order it at a steakhouse. I don't understand the like I'm a veggie. I'm a veggie side guy. I like the broccoli. I like the Brussels sprouts or I like the serious carbs like that like the fry the steak fries or the Potatoes I ordered four mac and cheese macaroni and cheese with potatoes
Starting point is 00:27:00 Pork belly fried rice in cream. That was awesome. So like I don't know if you have a problem with green corn, but come say that to my face. Like if you're in the chat right now, like by the way, it had like some like, Hey guys, I said it already space. He didn't do jack shit about it. Chili flakes on the top of it. It was delicious.
Starting point is 00:27:22 And Brussels sprouts give you the best. The worst like gas like I like Brussels, but I always feel like crap after eat them for some reason. Maybe my body just doesn't agree with them. It's your body is just not used to healthy food. That's all it is.
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Starting point is 00:28:24 Now Ari, it is a Wendy's Saucy Nug Wednesday and it is time to deliver our sauciest takes and the chat will decide who had the sausage. Take me or River. Mine is a little different because, well, yesterday we learned about the Bill Belichick Bible. Apparently the North Carolina Bill Belichick smoke is very real, but Bill Belichick has some demands. Now every coach when they interview for a head coaching job has a Bible. You can call it a Bible, a manual, whatever. They all have a book, essentially. I had someone tell me that Ed Orchron's book was 48 pages, I believe.
Starting point is 00:29:10 There've been some that were 100. There was one guy who interviewed for a job in the NFL who didn't have a book on paper. He had it all in his head, so he just put a ream of paper through a three-ring binder and pretended that there were words on it, but never actually opened it to show the people he was interviewing with but Bill Belichick apparently get the job Yes those people
Starting point is 00:29:35 Check apparently has a 400 page Bible that Lays out exactly how the organization would be structured, how much it would cost to pay each person in the organization. Now, my question though, if we're talking about the Bill Belichick Bible, what are the 10 commandments of the Bill Belichick Bible? So I took a guess at them. Let us enumerate. Thou shalt have no other coach before me. We are never
Starting point is 00:30:10 interviewing an assistant. The NFL makes you interview assistants, makes you make them available. We'll never interview an assistant. If Bill Belichick is North Carolina's head coach, it will be Bill Belichick. He will be the only person talking. Number two, thou shalt not make too frequent NIL demands. This is the part I think is interesting with Bill Belichick because obviously he's more accustomed to the compensation structure because he's been in the NFL. The difference is in the NFL, you know, when everybody's gonna be a free agent in college football right now, the way
Starting point is 00:30:44 it exists, you're a free agent every day I Can imagine like a player comes in for the second time to ask for more and those like you're out of here done Dude these are good keep going number three thou shalt not take playing time for granted That just means practice hard. I think that's fairly reasonable. Number four, remember special teams and keep them holy. This is a guy who will mumble out a three word response to most questions, but if you ask about the long snapper,
Starting point is 00:31:18 he will talk for 15 minutes in the most eloquent of terms. This guy loves special teams. I guarantee you his special teams units would be fire if he was a college football coach. No. 5, thou shalt respect the snap count. May Bill have mercy on your soul if you fall start. These are, these are self inflicted wounds. Our team is not having self inflicted wounds. No. six, thou shalt be the most prepared. Number seven, thou shalt never be satisfied. Number eight, thou shalt find all advantages
Starting point is 00:31:50 in the rule book. That's a good one for college. That's a Bill Belichick trademark. Whatever we can do, if we can manipulate the clock, whatever, we're gonna do it. Number nine, thou shalt stay off, snap face. Or my face, he's used them both, he uses them interchangeably.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And number 10, of course, which if we did the George Carlin version of this, you know where George Carlin reduces the 10 commandments to like two, yeah, this would be the only one. Thou shalt do thy job. Do thy job. That's funny. I thought your column nailed it today. It's it's the Van Halen M&Ms writer. That's what it is. Like
Starting point is 00:32:35 for those who don't remember the Van Halen writer, like in the 80s, when they did a concert, they had a thing in their in their contract and buried in it like a concert, they had a thing in their, in their contract and buried in it like page 40. It had a little list of snacks that they wanted in the dressing room and it said M and M's, no Brown M and M's and in like all capital letters. And it was like, Oh my God, what divas who I can't believe they're there to get up, try to get away with this. And then his autobiography, David Lee Roth explained that it wasn't like they were trying to be divas.
Starting point is 00:33:07 That was actually a test because they had like five semis worth of equipment that they were bringing to these concert venues. And it was lights and stage setup and pyro. And so a lot of electrical stuff and dangerous stuff. And basically they would walk into the dressing room and if they saw Brown M&Ms in the bowl, they knew they had to check everything else because some, you know, something may happen that may ruin the concert or something may happen that might
Starting point is 00:33:33 injure somebody in the band. So they knew to double check everything. If they went in there and saw no brown M&Ms and they could feel pretty comfortable that they got that everybody read the contract and did it exactly right for Bill Belichick. He's saying, if I'm going to do this, you have to be serious about college football. Like you have to be serious about winning at football in a way that North Carolina has never been serious before. Yeah. And it's almost like you are getting on the same page from an administrative support
Starting point is 00:34:05 standpoint before ever putting yourself in a position where you could disagree with them, right? I wonder if you asked Mac Brown in an honest moment, if we had him on the show right now and said, hey, do you think North Carolina gave you and your players everything you needed to succeed? I wonder what he would say. I've got a sneaky suspicion. I think I know.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Every coach would say no, except maybe Nick Saban. Well, I don't know about every coach. There's a lot. And Nick Saban probably would find some things that he thought they could do better too, even though they got almost everything they wanted. I think if you were the head coach at Georgia and you said no, you're an asshole.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Like there are certain levels to this. Yeah. Ronnie in the chat says, it's hilarious that Belichick thinks building an NFL like program in the NCAA is some novel idea. That's not what we're talking about here. What we're talking about is Bill Belichick demanding that they treat football as seriously as some of the schools that actually try to compete for national championships. And this way, if they don't, it's easy to say no. It's an easy test.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Like I can be successful here because you're going to give me the resources to do it. Or you've told me you're not giving me the resources. So therefore I do not think I will be successful. So I'm not going to do this. Now, there are other piece of this. The other piece of this Ari is there is a power struggle going on in North Carolina between the Board of Trustees and athletic director Bubba Cunningham. The board chair John Pryor has been trying to kneecap Bubba Cunningham for months now. And he's now, if this falls apart, essentially succeeded in kneecapping him because the board has been kind of pushing the Belichick part of it.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Bubba Cunningham was looking at more traditional hires and the more traditional hires were like nah, John Sumrall was a candidate, decided to go back to Tulane. Matt Campbell wouldn't even take a meeting with him because they saw the dysfunction and they don't want any part of that. And if Belichick falls apart, now all the fans are going to think, well, you could have had Bill Belichick and you, and you mess that up. And other coaching candidates too. Right. Cause if Bill Belichick doesn't think that they're committed at the
Starting point is 00:36:21 clip that they needed to be committed to, then what does that message say to the other candidates of the job? That's the other thing, too. So I think that North Carolina is limited to a certain degree in the NIL space. And if they are, then this is kind of a complicated matter. But I also think, too, that I like the fact
Starting point is 00:36:43 that there is at least somebody who has a 400 page manifesto I want to play a would you rather with you would you rather read Bill Belichick's or Conor Stallions? So I asked this question to the folks on Twitter yesterday the poll is still live if you want to go vote in and on my Twitter feed but let's see what the results are because Connor Stallions was winning for a while. I think Connor's is going to be a little more esoteric. I think Bill's is going to be a little more nuts and bolts specific because he's lived it. And he's like every single thing that's in Bill's it's like there was an incident
Starting point is 00:37:25 that caused this to be in here. There's a story behind every single one of those. Yeah. So it's an interesting question. I think I'd rather read bills if I had to, if I had to pick one. Cause you might learn more than from the other one, right one right currently and I'll re-up the poll but currently Connor Stallion's manifesto is leading 57% to 43% but it's polling pretty close well
Starting point is 00:37:57 the thing that is interesting is that I feel like Connor Stallion's was kind of viewed or at least presented as a psychopath and like I guess like Connor Stallions was kind of viewed or at least presented as a psychopath. And like, I guess like the documentary that they put on Netflix, whether you liked it or not, kind of just explained that he was just kind of like a go-getter who was like doing everything in his power to be good at his job and like sleeping in his car at like rest stops and stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:21 So if it is just like a big Bible of prospects and recruiting territories and all that stuff, it would be interesting to see how he thinks the Michigan job should be approached. But like who do you think has a better key on how to build a football team like Bill Belichick or Connor Stallions? I don't know. I would go with Bill Belichick. Goat dog in the chat says he has experienced with people in their early 20s. Give him a chance. That's funny. Have you seen the tweet that went viral last night that was hilarious and it was just a picture of Bill Belichick and his girlfriend
Starting point is 00:38:51 and it says somebody tell me that this man can't recruit. Oh, I saw that. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, so this is gonna be fascinating one way or the other because if Belichick says no, you are headed toward 2017 Tennessee coaching search. They might want Mac the Mac attack back,
Starting point is 00:39:13 but it's a little problem too late for that. Well, if it I texted somebody last night, I said if it really mirrored the 2017 Tennessee coaching search, then what would happen at the end is Mac Brown would wind up as the AD and Joe Judge would wind up as the coach. Is the 2017 Tennessee search the Shiano one? That was part of it.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Yep, yeah, I mean there's there are so many layers to that one, so they agree to hire Shiano, the fan base revolts. They back out of that. They talked to Dave Doran. They, uh, John Curry flies to California, interview Mike Leach. And then gets called home to get fired. They then install Philip Fullmer as the AD. He hires Jeremy Pruitt. Um, it was, it was a mess from start to finish.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Do you think that that messed up coaching search for Tennessee led them to a better situation? Or do you think if they hired Greg Shiano, they'd be further along? I don't think Greg Shiano would have done well there. I think he would have had a problem in that. Like Greg Shiano pays attention to too much stuff, but the same problem Butch Jones had. You can't do that at Tennessee. You have to be kind of elephant skinned. No, the reason things worked out at Tennessee
Starting point is 00:40:28 is they hired Danny White as the AD and he hired Josh Hypol as the coach. Yeah. Danny White historically has been good at hiring coaches. Like think about who he hired, Lance Leipold at Buffalo. He hired Nate Oates as the basketball coach at Buffalo. He hired Scott Frost and Josh Hyple at UCF. Like his his coaching hires have worked. So he's kind of got a touch for it. Ari, before we go to your take,
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Starting point is 00:42:11 what is your Saucy's take? Oh, we're gonna start with me. Okay, my take is that if Texas advances out of the first round of the CFP and I believe that they will because their defense is gonna make it really hard for Clemson to score that the starter of their next game, their quarterfinal game will be archmanning. And this is a, this is a pull situation. This is not a necessity situation is what you're saying. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Yeah. I'm not predicting somebody gets hurt. I I'm just, I'm saying, buddy, you watch the game. I said the same thing you did. It was yeah because. And this is what we've talked about. Like if you're going to bring Archmaning in. To run the ball,
Starting point is 00:42:54 which they actually did in overtime. That was the only time they did that. The other time they brought Archman again, they snapped it through his legs on one of the coolest trick plays you've ever seen, but well as Texas is offensive constructed right now is it explosive enough to win the national title this year?
Starting point is 00:43:08 I don't think so. And when do you think that that will become apparent to Steve Sarkisian? Well, but I don't know that it will, because I think he is in in for a penny in for a pound here. And we can say this really easily because we're not the ones coaching the team and we're not the people dealing with the players. It may be that Steve Sarkisian feels like this is the best choice for the team and you ride with the guy that is your guy. But he's been very clear about this from the get go that Quinn's the guy. And so I don't see him going back on that now. I think he's in. clear about this from from the get go that Quinn's the guy. And
Starting point is 00:43:45 so I don't see him going back on that. Now I think he's in. Well, here's the thing about that is obviously he knows more about Texas's team than we do, right? Like, and it's possible that maybe we're overestimating how good arch manning is at the moment. I think that's the other piece of it. We've got a very limited sample size with arch, but here's my my take on this is that if. Texas gets into a position where they're scoring 13 points or 17 points.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Against good defenses as they continue to advance through the playoff, it's only going to get harder to score. And I guess you maybe could make the case that they were in a good game with the best defense they would face, but like they could end up playing Oregon or Ohio State's defense in the final four. You know, like eventually they're going to get to another Georgia like defense before they get to the national title game,
Starting point is 00:44:39 even though they're on the other side of the bracket. And Steve Sarkisian has already shown us through action that he believes that Arch Manning brings something to the table that Quinn Ubers doesn't. Right. And even if he is 10% worse passing at the moment, if he gives you the extra element, which is a elusive quarterback who can run
Starting point is 00:45:01 and escape pressure, I wonder if Steve Sarkeesian, the time. By the way, I just want you to know these are the saucy takes I went for. For the spiciest one today, like I really went for it. Like I don't know if this is actually going to happen, but this is the this is the ghost pepper. I think we'll see what River brings to the table,
Starting point is 00:45:21 but this this may be the ghost pepper here. But I I think that like there will be a point in time in this postseason. And maybe it won't culminate in Arch Manning starting, but maybe it'll culminate in Arch Manning playing a lot like you know, I think that like they're going to have to do something. Yeah, to get the running element at the quarterback position to open some stuff up because they lost on Saturday because they couldn't score and they ended up scoring a touchdown at the end position to open some stuff up because they lost on Saturday because they couldn't score. And they ended up scoring a touchdown at the end. And the second was at the fourth quarter that one crossing route that or slant that they took to the house.
Starting point is 00:45:53 But like they have good enough. And here's the other thing too. And maybe this is, I think the running backs have been fine this year. Um, but they lost, like I think people forget how much talent they lost with CJ Baxter. And they had some injuries in preseason camp that put them behind the eight baller. Was basically decimated. So if you don't have an explosive home run hitter, that's going to take anything to the house at a given time at the running back position, which I think they've had consistent solid play.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I don't think they've had explosive home run play. You need to put yourself in a position where you can put defenses off balance on the ground. Or I don't know that Texas is in that position and Arch Manning might be the best. They already made a pass. That's what I find so interesting about that. Because if you're going to use him as the designated runner, it's not like the Tim Tebow 2006 Chris Leake situation where Leake was
Starting point is 00:46:44 so much more comfortable with the whole playbook better at running the whole playbook. And so you use Tebow situationally until you could build more of the offense around him. Like Arch knows the whole playbook Archie started a couple games already in place of Quinn yours. So when he comes in he can do everything in the whole menus available to him. But again, and you brought this up earlier, it may just be that we don't see them practice and that Quinn is just better in practice. And that's why Steve Sarkisian has remained as faithful as he has. Yeah, except when he wasn't, that's all, you know, he's remained faithful in the, in the starting on the
Starting point is 00:47:25 depth of the Georgia game. Yeah, the Georgia game was the one where he he brought arch in because nothing was working. Now, nothing worked with arch too. I know what's going to happen when nothing's working with the national title on the line is what I'm saying. This is that's the whole point of my point. That's that's right. The genesis of why I think that I'm not sure the Clemson defense is good enough this year to cause that. But if Texas beats, if Texas beats Clemson 17-3, I think that could still, that's what I'm saying. Like, I think they're going to beat Clemson regardless. And then you get the Sam Levitt and Kam Skatibou in round 2.
Starting point is 00:47:58 They may be able to score a little, and then you got to figure it out. Yeah. Yeah, I'm, you know, maybe it won't happen, but I think it's worth it's worth of the discussion because we did spend some time last week talking about the package and Archmanning came in and he snapped the ball through his ass, but other than that,
Starting point is 00:48:16 they didn't really do anything with him. So you're still amazed at how that had like that it does feel like a magic trick. I've watched the replay 10 times and I don't know how it didn't go through flesh. It's a good center. It's a good center. It's electric. That trickery, it's like, you know, that breakup scene, it fool you with trickery and then strike your throat before you even know you're in a fight.
Starting point is 00:48:42 That's what that was. They did. It was beautiful. It was absolutely beautiful. But but yeah, I am curious because they didn't use the arch package as much as I thought they would in that game. And it may be the situation just didn't present itself that often. But I know we haven't done predictions yet, but I like Clemson in the points. I'm just putting that out there right now. I hey, I understand a Monday show by the way is going to be our pick show for those first round playoff games. We're also going to do. We also have bowls like life's coming at us fast Ari. I know we got bowl games like next Tuesday. We're going to be
Starting point is 00:49:18 flying to uh to Indianapolis a week from tomorrow. So or no and and nine days. Yeah, we from Friday. Yeah. Yeah, this is this is going to be spectacular. It's it's coming fast everybody. I may be losing power by the way. There's a hellacious storm going on, so if I disappear, don't worry. It's just because lightning struck very
Starting point is 00:49:39 close to my house and knock something out. But if you disappear, do I've got to take the wheel? Is this like you do have to take the wheel? Yes, The heavens above testing me if I could be the point guard. Is that what that is? That's right. That's right. That's right. Well, before I get knocked out by lightning, let's talk about price picks. Best daily fantasy game in America. Download the app, use the code staples, play $5, get $50 instantly. This week you got an almost free Patrick Mahomes square. If he throws for.5 yards, so if he throws for a yard,
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Starting point is 00:51:36 Download the app, use the code staples, play five, get $50 instantly. All right, producer River, we need your spicy take the sauciest spiciest take you got. Hey, before you do it River real quick. I'm very amused by people who are watching this behind and just going oh god cream corn like an hour into the show. Okay, go ahead. Uh the poll by the way, I put a poll up is cream corn a good side 101 votes 56% no only 56% that's like unbelievable how many toddlers are voting
Starting point is 00:52:09 here could be a lot could be a lot did you try it river no I didn't try it I wish I did I wish I'm the only one who ate it I didn't touch it I wasn't wasting calories on cream Alright, my saucy take is that Penn State will win its first two CFP games. That means they look like that's regular garlic parm. I mean, they're going to be favored in both of them. Yes, those are just the Wendy's nuggets. That's all that is. That's not even like you got the original Wendy's nuggets with no sauce. Crispy nuggets.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Yeah. Yeah. I thought it would be saucier. And then I went and looked at the odds of it. Penn State has the second highest odds to make the semifinals. It's interesting though, River, that you bring this up because this is a point I've been making and somebody got mad at me in the chat the other day for saying this, but most people I would think agree with me. I feel like Oregon got punished for winning the Big Ten title game because Penn State got the easier path to the semis. Now Oregon, but, but I want to Ari, you're, you're more of a gambler than me
Starting point is 00:53:12 and you understand the numbers. Is it less likely that, that you win two games than you win one? Well, that's a fact. It's less likely that because you're exposed twice. Right. But But but also to Like SMU is good and SMU is good Boise State is good I know I know so you have two good teams and I guess the question for you is Like if you were playing a video game, would you rather play the hardest final boss once or the middle final boss twice? like that like that's what I'm at like Like that's what it is. So like, like if Oregon,
Starting point is 00:53:49 like we're talking about Penn State here. So we're viewing it through the Penn State eyes. Like Penn State does not have a great track record of winning big games. And both of these are big games. And the column that I wrote on Sunday for on three was about this. It's like James Franklin hit the lottery with the draw
Starting point is 00:54:01 but now he's got more pressure than he ever could have imagined. Cause if he loses the SMU game, people are going to go ape shit. Like it's an expectation and like we're joking with river that like it's negative spice and that it's crispy nuggets, but it's just like, can you imagine if they don't do it? Like they're expected to do it. And that's the scary part. But like if Oregon, like think about Oregon or, or Georgia or something playing these two teams, you might actually think it's like, I don't know, Oregon played Boise down to a point, so maybe it's not harder.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Right. We've, we've seen it. So, yeah. So on Fandl to make the semifinals, you've got Penn State at minus 184 and then Georgia and Oregon, both who have buys are at minus 136 for Georgia and minus 138 for Oregon. Yeah. Because those are just the games that those just their odds to beat the team they're playing. Yeah. Yeah. Just the odds to beat them. Because I actually think if
Starting point is 00:54:52 Notre Dame beats Indiana, that's potentially stylistically the toughest matchup for Georgia. Yeah, hold on. Let me look up the odds for just like Penn State's money line against SMU. SMU, Penn State is minus 325 to win the game outright. So like there's where there's a difference there. So like, yeah, be minus 325 in the first one and then minus probably 250 or 225 in the second one. Then you you know, you add it all together. I mean, like everything with this gambling stuff is just math, right? Like, I don't know. And that's why I asked it and why there is a little tiny element of spice to Rivers Take
Starting point is 00:55:32 is you are exposed twice here. We do have a situation where, you know, you have the Penn State reputation, the James Franklin reputation. I'm scared for him. I don't know about you, are you? I'm scared for him. Well, I am too, because that's gonna be bad. Okay, let's pose a question in the chat,
Starting point is 00:56:03 feel free to answer this one too. Worst reaction by the fan base. James Franklin loses SMU, Ryan Day loses Tennessee. Well, Ryan Day. Ryan Day. Really? You sure about that? I mean, they're already out on him. It feels like. Already been Penn State fans are out on Franklin too.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I this is closer than you think. Yeah, I mean, I don't think that anymore. Sorry, it doesn't really matter though, because like James Franklin's contractually locked in like there's nothing they can do about it, right? Like are they still there still soon enough into their God contract that like he's their coach. Like with Ohioio state like there's some question right now about whether
Starting point is 00:56:49 or not he will return next year that's ryan day so um like here's the thing ohio state bands and i think media are calling like before the year it was national title or bust for them. Like now it's like, if like, think about it. I think even Ryan Day said that. If Ohio state makes wins the game against Tennessee and loses in the second round failure. If Ohio state beats the first two teams and loses in the semi-final failure. Failure.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Ohio state advances to the national championship game and loses failure. So like there's like, like, so losing the first one would be like nuclear nuclear nuclear. I don't know how to say that word. I never have what you want is it's like it's spelled nuclear nuclear nuclear. But at the same time too, it's like can it all the thing that you have to understand about the Ohio State situation is is that they it's core. It's currently at level 10.
Starting point is 00:57:45 They're already at the end of their rope. They're already at level 10. Yeah, like they're already. The Michigan game losing to this particular Michigan team. It can't get worse than that. Right. And that's the compounding factor here that I think that makes it probably still
Starting point is 00:58:00 puts Day in the worst position if they lose that game. But I'm telling you right now that the Franklin situation isn't good if they lose. People are hoping again. And like also to James Franklin, I thought that like, here's the thing. I know Penn State's not like a big moral victory place and I'm not trying to be patronizing, but like somebody tweeted Nick bomb gardener tweeted, Oh look at Penn State, James Franklin under delivering in a big game
Starting point is 00:58:26 under delivering in a big game again. It's like I thought he overdelivered on Saturday like am I alone in that? Like I thought they played really well and like showed me something that I didn't even know they agreed. That was not the game I was expecting from them and if they played like
Starting point is 00:58:40 that against everybody else, they'll see they'll win everybody. So yeah, they have an opportunity to win some games. And like, listen, they lost by a touchdown to Oregon. They had the ball down eight in the final few minutes of the game. And like, there was like, basically a pick six on the first like they had a lot of mistakes in that game. They didn't play a clean, great game and just come up short. They like shot themselves in the foot a lot too. So like Penn State, I thought showed a drive or a gear that I didn't know that they could shift to in that game and I thought like okay Well, they lost it's not a moral victory. They lost but like at the same time it's like If they would have lost 35 to 14 or something or lost in the same manner in which they lost to Ohio State by not moving the football like I'd be Like upset alert from SMU. But like now it's like no they're gonna beat SMU So and if they lose at home to a Texas team in a Blizzard,
Starting point is 00:59:26 where the fair field ends are $1,900 a night, like then like, I think that you actually can make the case that it's going to be worse for Franklin because Ohio State and Ryan Day are already in like fan hatred hell right now. That's fair. By the way, you just reminded me, we can, the forecast is probably fairly accurate now, or at least a little bit accurate this far out.
Starting point is 00:59:48 So let's see what the old state college weather is for next Saturday. Now I'm very curious. We don't we don't we get to Friday. So Friday is sunny high 36 low 27. So that's you know if the next day is like that, you know, SMU is going to be cold. But for people who live in Dallas, that's not really that bad. So let's check the Columbus weather. And again, as we pointed out, Knoxville is cold too. So I don't think it's that big of a difference.
Starting point is 01:00:19 High 37, low 31 on Friday. So we'll find out. We'll find out tomorrow what that weather is going to be. Producer River says it's snowing in Knoxville. So there you go. It's also snowing in Columbus today. One more. Doesn't matter because Indiana is also in Indiana.
Starting point is 01:00:40 But let's see what the South Bend weather is for the game on Friday. South Bend weather. High 35 for the game on Friday. South Bend weather, high 35, low 28, chance of snow, possible sleep, let's go. You're driving from the airport, by the way. Oh, you think the person who spent most of his life in Florida is qualified to drive in ice? I don't care if we're more likely to get into an accident.
Starting point is 01:01:05 With you driving, we are less likely for it to be my fault if I'm not. So that's all I care about. Guys, if you are traveling north on US 31 through Kokomo, Indiana next Friday, and you see somebody puttering along at 20 miles an hour, that's me. Ari's the one yelling at me from passenger seat.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Also, driving in state college up in the mountains during a blizzard I've done it before is an absolute nightmare and I don't mean it like from how long it takes It's like scary. So just be safe if you're out there like I have a few buddies here that are smu fans who are going out to the game and it's just like you know landing in philly and driving through the mountains in a snowstorm to state college is like Legitimately like like nerve wracking. So just just be careful out there, everybody. It's going to be fun. But you know, everybody says, well, if they don't want to go play in the cold, it's like it's not the cold.
Starting point is 01:01:52 It's like literally dangerous. So the people who are used to it, I just remember the first time ever, like when I was covering Tennessee, my first job, so this is December 2000. Tennessee plays a basketball game at Syracuse. I land, I land in Syracuse and I get a taxi from the, from the airport to my hotel and he's driving through these, these roads that are just covered in snow and ice. I'm like, how do you do this? Like, how are you not freaking out right now? I was like, man, this is, this is Tuesday. Yeah. Um, I'll drive Andy. You're my guy. I got you. It'll be all right. I'll try. I we might
Starting point is 01:02:31 but we might need you to use your uh your perks to get a bigger truck. Like if we can get like uh. Oh I'm going yeah I'm going four-wheel drive on the old Emerald Isle if we need to. This is uh this is your reminder to do that if you haven't yet because I have got no cars. I have already rented the car, don't you worry. I did it when we made all the reservations. I'm Ari's travel agent too by the way, I don't know if you all know that. Yeah and credential getter. I hope you have all the ones for the games I'm not going to because I didn't get those. I don't know. We'll cross that break. He's going to show up at the Rose Bowl, but somebody was supposed to do this for me. And for those who don't know, like if you're requesting credentials to a thing, all you have to do is enter your name, email address
Starting point is 01:03:16 and phone number essentially, and you press a button and I know it's finding where to type that stuff in. That's the problem. It's not the actual act of doing it Whether Ari covers the Rose Bowl or not is gonna be a fascinating question that that's how I'm gonna spend my January 1st Morning is just taking odds on whether he's gonna get in the stadium or not Ari Tomorrow's my favorite day of the week. Dear Andy, dear Ari, we answer the people's questions. If you got a question for us, you know where to find us.
Starting point is 01:03:52 At Andy underscore Staples on X and Instagram, at Ari Wasserman on X and Instagram, also andystapleson3atgmail.com if you have a particularly epic question that you'd like to ask. We haven't gotten to answer a lot of questions of Late because there's just been so much stuff happening. So I'm just gonna load us up with questions for this show tomorrow because I know you guys have a ton of great questions to ask
Starting point is 01:04:16 And we'll we'll we'll do some transfer portal updates We'll hit the news off the top but then on to your questions So send those in at any otherwnershoreStaples at Ari Wasserman, andystapleson3 at gmail.com. We'll talk to you tomorrow.

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