Andy & Ari On3 - The TOP Quarterbacks for the 2027 NFL Draft before 2026: Should Arch Manning & Dante Moore be top 2?

Episode Date: April 10, 2026

While the 2026 NFL Draft is set to take place in Pittsburgh later this month, a listener sends in a question on who the top quarterbacks for next year’s draft will be. With Dante Moore, Arch Manning..., and Julian Sayin all returning to college football, which one will be a top prospect for next year’s NFL Draft? Also, a number of the top draft-eligible QBs will have the option to return for their senior season, so that could be involved. A Dear Andy & Ari episode to send you on in to your weekend!   (0:00) On Today’s Episode (0:38) Presenting Sponsor (1:49) Intro: Dear Andy & Ari (3:39) Shea’s Q: The Top QB’s for 2027 NFL Draft (22:58) What happens first: SEC wins 1 or Big Tin wins 2 more? (29:04) Pros & Cons of Televising/Streaming Spring Games (39:37) Notre Dame’s Offensive Line (42:05) Ari was right: The Feeling of Winning a Championship (46:34) Chocolate or Vanilla - Oregon QB Coach (50:00) Ari's Decisiveness (51:11) Day or Night? (52:09) Tupac or Biggie? (54:27) Sugar or Salt (56:11) Hug or Kiss (57:54) True Crime or Comedy? (59:04) Producer River's Rant to Ari (1:01:22) Conclusion: Shoutout Mother Wolf   As Andy & Ari continue into the mailbag, Sean asks which will happen first: SEC wins 1 national championship or the Big Ten will win 2 more? The fellas discuss, and explain why some ACC teams and Notre Dame fall into the mix.   What are the pros and cons of streaming spring games? Andy & Ari dive in   Later, Andy fixes a mistake on Notre Dame's offensive line he made earlier in the week.   Next up, Lori chimes in on the feeling of winning a national championship and the feeling that follows, even after winning back-to-back.   To close, Andy tests Ari's decisiveness. Also, producer River gets fired up and chimes in as well.   Mother Wolf restaurant here: https://motherwolf.com/   Our show is also presented by BetMGM!   If you haven’t signed up for BetMGM yet, use bonus code CFB and you will get up to a $1500 First Bet Offer on your first wager with BetMGM! Here’s how it works:   1. Download the BetMGM app and sign-up using bonus code CFB. 2. Deposit at least $10 and place your first wager on any game. 3. You will receive up to $1500 in bonus bets if your bet loses! Just make sure you use bonus code CFB when you sign up!   Make this college football season one for the history books. Make it legendary.   See BetMGM.com for Terms. 21+ only. This promotional offer is not available in DC, Mississippi, New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or 1-800-MY-RESET (Available in the US) . 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), 1-800-327-5050 (MA), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). First Bet Offer for new customers only (if applicable). Subject to eligibility requirements. Rewards are non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire in 7 days. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel   Watch our show on YouTube! https://youtu.be/35nETYC0ciY   Hosts: Andy Staples, Ari Wasserman Producer: River Bailey   Interested in partnering with the show? Email advertise@on3.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:02:00 It is a mailbag day. Your questions answered, and it is NFL draft season. So I'm happy we're getting a draft question that actually allows us to produce. into the 2006 college football season. This is a fun way to start the show.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. And anybody who listens to the show knows that nobody is worse at evaluating quarterbacks than me, both in... Oh, I am probably just as bad. I'll open up a box of Justin Fields
Starting point is 00:02:28 rookie cards over there and show you how much money I've lost trying to be good at it. But I think the thing that I find interesting as we dive into that, Andy, is at this point, last year, as we all remember, projecting which quarterbacks were going to be the best during
Starting point is 00:02:44 the 2025 season. Everybody was wrong. We weren't wrong. Everybody. Everybody was wrong. And I think that that goes to show you, one, you know, it is very easy to fall in love with that let us some traits and moments for sure. But two, I think that like a lot of the national people or people in our positions kind
Starting point is 00:03:03 of view the sport the same. And you know what? I'll tell you, when we're all wrong, we're all wrong because something remarkable happened and you're not supposed to see the remarkable happening in the foresight. So I think for the most part, you know, years where we're all terribly wrong is probably less frequent than, you know, years where we're all right because it's very easy to spot good players mostly. Like we know.
Starting point is 00:03:28 I don't know if it's that easy anymore. And you're going to see let's let's let's ask Shay's question and let's try to answer it. And I think you're going to see that this is. gotten much harder for a couple of reasons. So here's Shea's question. Hey guys, with the 2026 NFL draft approaching, of course, a lot of attention is being paid to the quarterback position. I was watching some of the ESPN coverage and one of their panels was discussing how franchises who need QBs should not wait for a quote unquote loaded class and should try to fill the need as soon as possible if they feel they have found a fit. They alluded how this year's class
Starting point is 00:04:00 that appeared to be so loaded at one time, thinned out with Fernando Mendoza and Ty Simpson being tab is the lone franchise changing first round options. Arch Manning Dante Moore decided to save the college law. My question is if you had to make a top five quarterback class for the 2007 NFL draft prior to the 2006 college football season, who would be potential options for you? And what do you think contributes to these now seemingly unpredictable quarterback classes? Really good question from Shea. And so as well,
Starting point is 00:04:34 Before we answer it, I want to go back because I was curious to see what did everybody say after the draft ended last year about who the top QBs in the 2026 draft would be? And I called up one from Bleacher Report. And this is fairly representative. And we're not even going to put the name of the person on here because it's not fair because we all got all of these wrong. Every single one of us. But they had Lenora Sellers as the number one pick. Arch Manning as the number two pick. Drew Aller as the number seven pick.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Now this is a mock draft that had players from other positions going as well. Cade Clubnick from Clemson as your number nine pick. You see where I'm going with this, Ari? I do see where you're going with it. And I do think that like a year ago, whenever that was published, I would have been like, okay, makes sense. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:34 That's exactly right. We would have had our questions about Aller. But, like, I wasn't questioning Klubnik at this point because he had been better at the end of the 2024 season. And I thought, okay, he's taking a step. And what was our wrong. So I already did a list. I don't think you've done a list. You're still scarred from last year.
Starting point is 00:05:55 But I did a list of my top 10 quarterbacks going into 2026 back in February. And my top 10 quarterbacks heading into the 2026 season might be, even if it's perfectly correct, it still might not mirror the NFL draft order. Like the reason why, like Clubnik, for instance, I don't think I would have had as a top 10 pick in the NFL draft. But last year, I thought he was going to be a top 10 quarterback in college football. I didn't know if he projected, you know, size and all that stuff, arm strength and all the things that you would need, you know, again,
Starting point is 00:06:27 but I don't know what I'm talking about. So like that, that was difficult. So like here's where it gets tricky, Andy. I think this year's list. And I'm just going to read my list for a review of what I did. Okay. This is going into the 26th season. This is not the one from last year.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Arch Manning one, Dante Moore, two, Sam Levitt three, Julian Say and four, Josh Hoover five, Gunner Stockton, six, Jaden Mayava, seven, Darien Mensa eight, Brendan Soresby nine, number 10, C.J. Carr. Now, there's one name. This is college production, not potential draft slot or anything like that. Okay. We do very little, like, I don't ever, like, do mock drafts because, like, that's, I don't know enough about the NFL teams and their needs.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I want to answer Shay's question, though, because I do think we know enough about what NFL team would want in a quarterback. There's one name that's missing from that list that's important to the point, though. And that's Trinidad Chambliss. He didn't make the list because at the time he hadn't won his injunction yet, and we weren't sure he had to be eligible. But Trinidad Chamblis might be a top four, top three, even number one quarterback in the country production-wise next year.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I don't know how he projects to the NFL. So you can answer the question now, but who is productive is hard enough, who is actually taken ultimately. Yeah, the first name I'll throw out there is the one that the NFL people liked this year, one that a lot of NFL people wanted to come out this year, and he decided not to. And that's Dante Moore for Morgan. So I'll throw his name on here just because when we were at the senior ball,
Starting point is 00:07:53 I had a scout telling me, oh, yeah, he would have been picked in the first round had he come out. No question about it. Now, he still might have been viewed as somewhat of a project because he's only a one-year starter. But everybody loved his traits. So that's, I feel comfortable throwing him out here. I don't feel comfortable with any other names on the list. Oh, my God. For a lot of reasons.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Couldn't disagree with you more. Arch Manning's going to be the number one pick next year, guaranteed. I'm not saying, I don't know that. And he's going to have another year of eligibility. So, yeah. What I'm telling you is the NFL draft people would have taken Dante Moore. Most of them would have been fine with Dante Moore being taken in top five or top 10 this year. So I feel very comfortable putting him on the list. Like I don't even feel comfortable
Starting point is 00:08:42 putting most of these names on the list because I don't know if they're going to be in the draft next year. Like yeah. The other piece of this is the NIL era has changed the math. Yeah. And also where Dante Moore would have been selected this year could ultimately change based on how deep next year is. Right. I mean, we've talked about this with different quarterbacks through the years like Matt Barkley, for example. Guys who, Matt Liner, it was another one, they're not all USC guys, I swear. But people who would have gone higher
Starting point is 00:09:14 had they come out a year earlier. You know who's going to be like a top 10 pick is C.J. Carr. C.J. Cars is one I got on a list. So Dante Amor, Archmanning, C.J. Carr at Notre Dame. Now, here's the thing about C.J. Carr. Eligibility remaining. He doesn't have to leave.
Starting point is 00:09:32 So no idea if he'll want to. I think at this point, and Ty Simpson's kind of our lesson here. If you're not sure you're going to be first round pick, you stay. Yeah. Yeah. And the thing that will be interesting about next year, too, Andy, is if there's a bunch of people who could conceivably be a first round pick, it's going to be much harder to know where you stand in the draft at this point next year,
Starting point is 00:09:55 or at the point in January where you have to make that decision. Like if you have a- Julian Sayan is going to be draft eligible. Yeah. I have no idea if he's going to want to leave, though. I wonder if all these guys being draft eligible, say, and Carr, all of them, being eligible at the same time will actually lead to somebody returning because they perceive the following draft
Starting point is 00:10:19 will be lighter. Like, I wonder if we're going to see that happen, like, because there's so many. I bet we do. Yeah, which then. Jade Maiava has to be in this draft. Right. So, like, that's one I would say. I imagine he will he will be one that is talk about now.
Starting point is 00:10:39 He's going to have to have a good year this year. Like, he could have left after this past season. There wasn't a huge buzz, though, if he was going to leave. Yeah. And I'm still also amused too, Andy, that, like, Lenore's Sellers is nowhere to be found on top 10 lists. But it's like he still has insane traits. He can have a big year next year and be right back in the top 10 a year from now. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Like Sam Levitt at LSU. You know, he, so we don't know about Sam Levitt right now because he's posting, you know, pictures on Instagram of, of his foot all wrapped up because he just had another little procedure. So, like, that's, it's a mystery. Like Brendan Sorsby, who's playing for Texas Tech played for Cincinnati last year, has the size and the arm and the speed, like the NFL teams love. Yeah. How do how to perform? What about Gunner Stockton? He's another one.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah. Yeah, he probably doesn't have the, the measurables that they love as much, but he's an effective college quarterback. Yeah. He makes plays. Six one. Yeah. These other guys I'm talking about are like six, four, six five, two thirty. Like, Jayvah was six four, two thirty. Lenora Sellers is like the measurable's like wet dream. So like he's king. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So. You know, and I got another name for you. I'm afraid to say it. Do you know what I'm going to say?
Starting point is 00:12:08 DJ Lagway? Yes. Measurable's king. Let's let the man play a good season first. Let's leave DJ alone for a little bit. Before we started recording, though, Rivers like, well, how certain do you think you would be? Like, I can see somebody coming out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:12:25 And like, yeah, what if the person that, it would be the biggest redemption arc for us if DJ Lagway came out of nowhere. John Matier wouldn't be coming out of nowhere. John Matier took his team to playoff last year. But who's the Fernando Mendoza of this season? Josh Hoover, probably. Yeah. He's treading the same path.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Or it could be Dary and Mensa. Let's say Dary and Mensa lights it up at Miami. Yeah. Yeah. Transfer quarterbacks that start somewhere new that were, that, you know, people knew were pretty good, but then become a completely different player at the new place. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:02 How about one who never left? How about one who just had a bad year and then bounce back with a really good year last year, Noah Fafita? Yeah, he's short though, isn't he? He is. Yeah, he's not going to, like they're not going to fall in love with his traits. Yeah. Here's another one. And we had Eric Morrison and he said that, you know, the pitch to him about Drew Mestemaker when he was at North Texas was this is an NFL quarterback.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Now, Drew Mestimaker will be draft eligible after this first season at Oklahoma State. 6-4, 2-15, big arm, big numbers. Like, that's another one that we're not really talking about right now in terms of the draft, but we suspect he's going to have a really good year in that first year at Oklahoma State. We suspect they're going to be significantly better than they were last year. Yeah. I mean, the thing that scares me with Mestamaker is just total reps, even after this whole season. Like, I don't know if that's enough.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I mean, two full seasons. He'd be a two-year starter at that point, yeah. Two-year player at that point. You're a two-year starter at quarterback, whereas all these other guys started all through high school. Like he just has a strange, strange arc. Now, here's a curveball for you. And I don't know what you think,
Starting point is 00:14:13 but I wanted to ask you about him because you know how I am. I'm a measurable's lover. Byram Brown, we spent a lot of time talking about you. Gross from his waist. We did. We spent a lot of time, but you saw that that is the negative. Here's the positive. Did you see the pictures of him?
Starting point is 00:14:29 Andy next to Cam Newton. From his waist. Do you think that he's just like that's an unovercomable situation? It probably is. I hope it's not for his sake. But that's pretty tough to deal with. Like the NFL people cringe. I recorded something for Yahoo with Nate Tice, who studies the draft for them.
Starting point is 00:14:53 It's going to come out a little bit later. And we were talking about Byron Brown. And he's like, I love him. I love watching him play. And I was like, but we're, where are you going to project him in the draft? He's like, oh, God, no. Don't make me do that.
Starting point is 00:15:04 So it's, I also have the same thing. From a mechanic standpoint, how intricate it would be to get a throwing coach in there to help him change his motion. Maybe it's impossible, but if you've been throwing it. Much of guess is that's been tried. This works,
Starting point is 00:15:17 so don't mess with it. And, you know, there have been unorthodox throwing motions that got in the NFL and work. Like Philip Rivers, I think you would call his throwing motion slightly unorthodox, but it's still quick.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Like, this one's not. not quick. And like Tim Tebow, that was his downfall in the NFL. His throwing motion was highly elongated. And if I were left, which have a really slow release? I cannot remember that. You know who else did? My man, Bernie Cozhar didn't have a slow release. He just, he's a little sidearm, but he got it out there. He had an unorthodox release. Unorthodox is not slow. Um, Orthodox and slow are two different things. Didn't Chad Pennington? have a very slow release? I cannot remember.
Starting point is 00:16:03 You are straining my memory banks here, which is crazy. I've never done that to you before. It's insane. But Chad Pennington was my God growing up. He was the guy. So, no, I know. I know what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:16:14 But in the NFL, if you throw from your waist, somebody named Miles Garrett's going to eat you alive. Yeah, I mean, in the NFL, the key is, is can you deliver the ball quickly? You identify the receiver, get the ball out on time. And so any sort of, delay in throw is going to be. But look, if Byron Brown puts up huge numbers at Auburn, he's going to get looks.
Starting point is 00:16:37 It's just a matter of what they, what they think. But I don't, that's the thing, mess to make or Sorsby, you know, C.J. Carr, all these guys, they're going to get, they're going to get looked at, Trinidad Chamblis. Okay, this is his last year. We think. We think. Now, they're not going to love his measurables, but oh my God. Does he produce?
Starting point is 00:17:01 Yeah. I do feel like production and being very good should take precedent, but it never does. I think it's got to be, for the NFL, it's got to be a little bit of both. It can't, it's not, you're not surviving on pluck and grit as an NFL quarterback. You either can do the job or you can't. It's very hard. And so I just, I think this is such an interesting conversation because we get it so wrong, so much of the time. And I enjoyed looking back at some of these.
Starting point is 00:17:32 So pro football focus did their way too early 2025 mock draft after the 2024 draft ended. And so this is the one from last year where you had Cam Ward go number one. Shador Sanders was the other potential first round guy. Everybody thought but didn't end up. And then you had Jackson Dart going and then Tyler Shuck in the second round. but the first quarterback off the board on this way too early one, Carson Beck, who didn't even play in the NFL last year.
Starting point is 00:18:08 He played in college last year. Yeah. Have we found any of the ones that people are projecting for next year? They come out after this draft. They do? Okay. Yeah. There are people that rank them.
Starting point is 00:18:22 And it's the same names we just threw out there. Yeah. The ones, the people that are ranked the highest in most of these for, for 2027 are Dante Moore, Archmanning, C.J. Carr, J. Maiava, Julian Sayan. I just found a 2027 mock draft, a seven round mock draft for 2020. What? But it was also. That's a true sicko. I want to meet this person. I'm not done yet. Guess what the date it was published?
Starting point is 00:18:54 September 19th of 20th. 2025. Awesome. They did two years in the number one overall pick, New Orleans. This is a true sicko. I love this. D.K. Lagway, number one. Producer River threw another name out there.
Starting point is 00:19:11 You ready? You're ready? Yeah. You're ready? Nico I. What if he has a great ear in Bob Chesney's first year at UCLA? He might. He might.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Six. Six. 225 pounds. Big arm. come on obviously very aware of the business side of things oh my god you mess up your nil situation so bad that it actually turns out to be a financial positive for you in your professional life like can you like do like a you know how they say in politics that the far left and the far right are actually closer together than the moderates like what if you like mess up
Starting point is 00:19:47 your nil so bad to the bell curve on the left that actually you were somewhere in the more like seasoned place once you get to the league and what not to do that that is so Certainly one way to spin it. I'm certainly a lot. I actually, like, I know that this is probably going to make River grid his teeth, but I would like to see him do okay. Like, I don't read it too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Look, there's a reason everybody liked him. But we'll find out what happens. But this is a very interesting year because I, like, I look at these names. The five names that we threw out there seem. fairly obvious, but again, like Julian saying, C.J. Carr, Arch Manning, all of them are going to have potential eligibility remaining. And I don't, I don't think it's a cut and dry decision anymore, even if you have a really good season, that just because you draft eligible, you O. Pro. There are all these, there are all these NFL draft websites that, like,
Starting point is 00:20:47 dedicate themselves to the NFL draft year round. And like, I don't know if this is reputable or not, but I found one for 27, number one overall pick to the Cleveland Browns. Your Cleveland Browns, Archmanning. And then you have, funny enough, and I just was amused by this, that the fifth pick in the draft is the New York Jets, who will then select Dante Moore, who could not escape the wrath of New York City. He's just trying to get away.
Starting point is 00:21:08 All Dante Moore wants to do is get away from the Jets. He's just praying that four or five quarterbacks wind up being really good. And this is one of those years where you have five guys go in the top 12, and the Jets just pick somebody else. This SICO has Lenora Seller, 12 to Tampa, and then has Fico Iamaliava to Pittsburgh at 13. No, why? Wow. This guy's a free thinker and Charlie Becker with a Kansas D.C.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Yeah, listen, I'm not going to say this with any confidence whatsoever. I appreciate Shea's question. But I can't because we've seen how variable it is. And we've also seen now in the NIL era that if you're at a big school, And you're successful and you're having a great season and maybe next season to be even better and you might be able to compete for a national championship and you're not sure exactly where you're going to go in the draft. You're coming back. God, I'm still reading this NFL draft, Andy.
Starting point is 00:22:12 This is intoxicating. John Mathier, 20-100 a ram. I mean, I got to say I understand why these are fun. Like why people are honest with them because they are fun to read. And it's just like, no one knows. and there might be somebody out there that we're not even talking about at the moment that turns out to be the number one overall pick. Who knows? But it is inherently hard to figure out who is going to be really good in the college level.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Then there's a second step to that, which is who also was good in college that has the measurables, the traits and what makes the NFL per? And the new piece of it, are you going to make enough money in the NFL to justify leaving? Yeah. And other too many people in the draft this year and you can make more money coming back to college. Yeah. There's a lot happening here. It's more difficult now that it's ever been. Here's a good question from Sean, Ari.
Starting point is 00:22:59 On the topic of which football conference is better, what do you think happens first? The SEC wins a national title or the Big Ten wins two more national titles. This is a great question. Did he ask this on Fine Bomb? I was wondering, I'm going to say SEC,
Starting point is 00:23:19 just because winning a national championship is hard. and like winning two in a row is hard, which means that you'd have to have two different programs do it. And I think that the... It's not saying two in a row. You're assuming that only the SEC and Big Ten won national championships, I will point out that there was an ACC team driving in a one score game in the fourth quarter this year.
Starting point is 00:23:40 So it's not out of the realm of possibility that somebody from another league could win one. Though I do agree with you, it's probably going to be an SEC or Big Ten team most years. And it's just hard to do it. once, let alone, yeah. And there's so many teams, it's just a simple, like, probability situation to me. It's like how many teams in the Big Ten have a national championship ceiling and how many teams in the SEC have a national championship ceiling? And I probably would say it's like, what, eight and eight?
Starting point is 00:24:07 Let's count them. Let's count them. You've got the SEC up on the screen. Does Alabama have a national championship ceiling? Yes. Okay. I'm going to leave the Auburn and Florida off there. Georgia is a yes for sure.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Ole Miss? Yes. This year? Yeah. Oklahoma? Yes. That's four. Tennessee?
Starting point is 00:24:29 I would say no this year. Okay. Texas A&M. Yes. That's five. Texas. Yes. LSU.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Yes. So that's seven. That's seven. Yeah, I don't think we're going to do South Carolina or Mandy here. So seven in the SEC. Let's go to the Big Ten. I said eight and eight record to be show. I think I'm going to be pretty close.
Starting point is 00:24:49 You're going to be fairly close. Okay, Indiana. Yes. They won last year. It would not be right to leave them off. Iowa. No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Michigan? I don't know. I'll let you answer this one. I'm going to say yes on that. Okay. I think if you can make the playoff, you have a chance. I think they can make the playoff. So that's two.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Michigan State, Minnesota, Northwestern Nebraska is no. Ohio, excuse me, Oregon is yes, right? Yep. Ohio State. Three. Ohio State's yes. Penn State. I'm going to say yes. Okay, that's five.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Of the ones left, who are your yes? Is it USC? I would say yes to USC for six. Washington? I would say yes to Washington. Okay. Well, there you go. Seven and seven.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Yeah. And I think that maybe I'm stretching a little bit with Washington and SC. That's okay. I mean, that's the thing. Like if we just said Indiana this time last year, people would have said we were insane. I think we would have definitively said yes with sealing, though. Yeah, because they were coming off at 11 win year.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Yeah, you can't, like, if they returned everybody. I don't know. I think that's revisionist. I'm not sure we would have said that. Well, I'm not going to speak for you. I'm not sure I would have said that this time last year. We did leave them out of the top 25, so maybe it's fair to say that we would. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Yeah. So seven and seven. I think you're probably, from a probability standpoint, right, saying the SEC wins one before the Big Ten wins two. And the other thing that does kind of muck this up a little bit is you have Miami that we think is still going to be a factor. And there may be Texas Tech or BYU or somebody in the Big 12 grows into a factor as well. So the Big Ten, the Big Ten one is much harder. it's a much bigger ass than the SEC win. I mean,
Starting point is 00:26:54 Notre Dame, duh. Notre Dame might win the national top. There's also this other thing, too. My favorite to win the national championship in 2020, 26 is Texas. So, like, why would I pick the Big Ten if I think the team that might pick
Starting point is 00:27:07 to win the championship is in the SEC in this year? Yeah. Tex's going to be awesome. I'm telling you guys, hook them horns, dude. I do think Texas is going to be good. I just, I also think Oregon and Ohio State are going to be really,
Starting point is 00:27:23 awesome. I'm excited to see Michigan. You know, everybody seems very excited about USC. Every single time we talk about Texas, I have one vision. You know what that vision is? No. Taking you up at the airport at like 8.30 a.m.
Starting point is 00:27:39 driving over to the fairgrounds, and I'm going to eat more fair food this year. Last year I didn't eat enough. I'm going to smash fair food this year. And then we covered the game. We do our live video on that concourse looking over the field. We write our columns and we go home, Domino's for the night game. It's like one of the best days of year. What if we watch an Oklahoma win this year? We've seen two dominant Texas wins the last two
Starting point is 00:28:00 years. Buddy, the corn dogs are there regardless of who wins. But I, you know, I think that. I believe they call them corny dogs there. Yeah, they do. They do. I'm a big funnel cake guy, just so you know. Of course you are. Yeah. Which is weird because you're not a big sweets guy. It's savory. But you're a big savory guy. So yeah, it is a savory and sweet concoction. Yeah. Big funnel cake guy. I got to, I got to shoot. I have to add to my, uh, Oregon quarterback coach questions list. I think I'm going to do okay at that. I'm not using fair food.
Starting point is 00:28:31 You teased at the beginning of the show that you're going to like put, yeah, look at that. That was awesome. Remember that thing? Oh, yeah. The Korean corn dog? The Korean corn dog with the hot chito dust. God.
Starting point is 00:28:42 You can't beat the turkey leg. Like, it's just your base, now that's a bacon wrapped turkey leg, but you're just your basic turkey leg is the ultimate fair food. I've covered a lot of games in a lot of places. You've covered more. there is nothing as cool as that, period.
Starting point is 00:28:57 No, and it's the best neutral site game, period, too. Yeah, that's awesome. Okay. Next question from Lisa. What are the pros and cons of college football teams televising or streaming their spring game? This is a really interesting one. And in our group chat on three this morning, Ari, we've had this back and forth about we're trying to figure out who exactly is going to make their game available to watch this year.
Starting point is 00:29:21 It's not a long list. You've got Colorado and Syracuse. Dionne Sanders and Fran Brown, who wanted to play each other in the spring last year and would still do it if somebody would let them. But they're going to let you watch their games. Notre Dame is going to be on Peacock. Ohio State, Oregon are going to be on the Big Ten Network.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I think George is going to be on the SEC network. But it's a very slim group of teams where you're going to be able to watch the spring game. L.S. I have one. How many shows we. we squeezed out of last year's talking point, which is if we air our spring game, people are going to poach our players
Starting point is 00:29:59 in the spring portal window. Yeah. That doesn't exist anymore. So what's the point of like hiding it? It's interesting. We never got into the ghost transfer thing, but we can talk about that now. Because one of the fears when there was a spring transfer portal window
Starting point is 00:30:14 was that people would be scouting your spring game off the TV and they would immediately try to tamper with your players. So now there's no spring transfer portal window. The concern is whether people would just withdraw from somewhere and enroll somewhere else. Yeah. And that's what Xavier Lucas did when he went from Wisconsin to Miami because Wisconsin wouldn't put him in the transfer portal. The NCAA has created penalties for this, not for the players, because they know if they put any penalty on the player for this, they're going to get taken to court and they'll lose. The penalty is against the coach of the team and against the program itself.
Starting point is 00:30:54 So it would be up to six-game suspension for the coach, the head coach, and then up to a 20% of your football budget fine for the program. So they're a pretty serious. Of the incoming, of the incoming program, the program that takes the player. Yeah, the one that takes the player. And I don't, first of all, that would never hold up in court if it gets challenged because it's still a group of competitors colluding to price fix the labor market. if it ever gets taken court, that will go away.
Starting point is 00:31:28 But is it worth it? Because they smartly did not impose the penalties on the players, so the players don't really need to sue. Coaches aren't going to sue unless they get suspended. Well, here's the problem with it, too, Andy. What if somebody just has a terrible spring and a terrible experience at their program and then they withdraw, but they don't know where they're going to go
Starting point is 00:31:51 when they withdraw? Like, there's no way to definitively prove that the place that you end up at colluded with you. Well, tampered, yeah. Collusion is what the schools are doing. Tampered, yeah. The thing about it is I'm not sure what's available after spring practice is where, like, the juice is probably worth a squeeze for a coach.
Starting point is 00:32:12 You're not going to, even if you know that if they tried to suspend you, you could take them to court and you'd win, is it even worth the trouble? It might be the kind of players that are going to be, These are going to be guys that lost position battles. This is not going to be true difference makers. Okay. Here's a scenario for you. It's a think tank.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Is this a think tank? Yeah, yeah. You are a program in the SEC, and I'm not going to name a program because I don't want to put evil on anybody, but you expect to win the national championship this year, and one of your best players is your quarterback. That quarterback suffers a terrible injury
Starting point is 00:32:51 in spring practice. Okay. Here's, yeah, this is the legitimate one right here. And then you're left with a gaping hole on an otherwise promising roster that you spent a ton of money assembly. Do you tamper with another team's quarterback that you wouldn't have taken or even tried to take a month earlier? Yeah, if you're the coach, you walk into your AD's office and say, I don't know how to break this to you. You need to call our state attorney general. We're going to need to file a lawsuit here because they're going to, I'm going to take this player and they're going to suspend me.
Starting point is 00:33:19 It's the arise. It's a sudden need that arises in your desperation to fill that hole by doing whatever measure it takes to get that hole. Which is kind of Miami at the end of the actual transfer portal window when they got Dary and Mensa. Yeah. And like Tennessee to a certain extent, it wasn't an injury a year ago, but they were faced with a similar circumstance. But they had the transfer portal window to do it in. So yeah. So there's that.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And here's the, but here's the other thing. because Lisa asked what the pros of televising your spring game. The pros of it are you give your fans something to watch. Yeah. Like these guys still don't get that they're in the spectator sports business, that they're in the entertainment business. They make it so hard for their fans to love their teams. But isn't there a certain aspect of this too where if you don't televise it,
Starting point is 00:34:13 you incentivize people in your area to buy tickets to come? Like isn't that part of it too? I'm in Gainesville. They're not even selling tickets to the Florida Spring Games free. It is? Yeah. Are there concessions? I probably.
Starting point is 00:34:27 But I don't think that's a significant budget line. Riverd is Texas that's usually free. At Ohio State, they charged five bucks a ticket. I remember that. Yeah, that's Ohio State. Ohio State's televising it too, by the way. Yeah. Because they're not worried.
Starting point is 00:34:41 They ain't scurred. So if I were a coach, I'd want to incentivize people to come. I would want to incentivize people to see my team anywhere because the whole putting it on TV reduces attendance. We know that's a fallacy. We know that's BS. The NFL blackout rules have taught us that over the years. And the spring game is actually a wonderful time
Starting point is 00:35:02 because let's be honest, Andy. We're not living in the best economy at the moment and times are tight for a lot of people. If you are a person who can't afford $500 for, you know, two tickets to take your kid to the game, the spring game is an actual, awesome opportunity for a father. But you're talking about in-person
Starting point is 00:35:18 we're not talking about that. We're talking about televising the spring game. And I think you should make it as easy for your fans to see your team as possible. I think that just connects the fan and the team more. It increases the bond. And also, you don't need to be worried about, let's say, even if we're not worried about
Starting point is 00:35:39 people trying to poach players off your roster this off-season, don't worry about them seeing somebody. they like and putting a pin in that guy's name. They'll know. To try to steal from you next year. Because guess what they're going to get more out of? You have 100 people on your staff.
Starting point is 00:35:56 You don't think some of those people are going to, in casual conversation with their friends and former coworkers, mention guys who are playing well as young guys who are not playing in games. Like, that information is going to be a lot more valuable than seeing a couple snaps in the spring game. And if the person's truly dynamic and irreplaceable, they will eventually see the field in the fall at some point. Yes. Or you will know what their future value is and you will pay them accordingly. So that is not something you need to worry about. I say everybody put your game on. Now, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I don't think the TV networks want to televise these things because they are not really good television, especially when you're in a situation, maybe you have some depth issues, maybe you have offensive line injuries where you're not even playing a real game. like as much as people think they want to watch football practice when you actually televise a football practice, they don't really want to watch it. Yeah. So that's part of it. I think a lot of it is the networks aren't as eager
Starting point is 00:36:58 to devote resources to televising these things as they used to be, but it's cheaper than ever to stream something to hold these, like we are streaming this show right now, cheaper than ever to do it. So I say everybody stream your spring games so that people can watch them. It'd be a lot of fun. I just think that the allure of spring games in general has gone downhill
Starting point is 00:37:20 because back in the day, when you used to watch a spring game, you'd watch your freshman and your sophomores who haven't played yet, play, then you can envision the future. And like now, players don't stay around long enough for you to, like, really get that feeling. Well, the other thing is you'd want to see your new transfers. But a lot of times, if you have a new transfer who's established, who has played it, they're not going to play much in your spring game.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Yeah. Like, they probably played a ton in practice. The spring game has probably not going to play much in spring. It's been a showcase of your younger talent. Yeah. Yeah. But I say anything that allows you to connect more with your fans, like the NFL requires teams to open practices to fans during training camp.
Starting point is 00:38:03 There's no reason you couldn't do that in college football. The coaches are super paranoid, but just don't put in the plays that you don't want anybody to see on those days. How come coaches in college are so much more paranoid than coaches in the NFL? because they can be they're allowed to be the NFL doesn't allow them to be if the NFL coaches had their druthers I'm sure they'd never let anybody watch practice ever I was one if the NFL understands it's in the entertainment business I was once in the office of an ACC recruiting director and he was certain that an SEC team bugged his office and I just wanted to be like what is this breaking bad do you think like somebody like came in and like plugged something into your, like, are you insane? Like, I just wanted to be like, are you insane? Yeah, the paranoia is high. But, yeah, like,
Starting point is 00:38:55 Glenn Kiffin is not having a spring game at LSU because he doesn't want people to be able to pick up on their 10th. Guess what? They have Ole Miss Film. They know what you do. Wow. Rant over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I hope I answered Lisa's question. I would like to see more spring games. I would like them to be available. Not even just for my purposes. It would certainly help us to, our jobs, but just connect with your fans. Like, give your fans a way to connect with you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Stop hiding everything and it's not. It's not state secrets. It's sports. All right. More football. This question for Mason. Why did you both attempt to talk about the Notre Dame Offensive Line despite have zero clue what's going on?
Starting point is 00:39:44 This is in reference to our bit the other day about Devin Fitzgerald, where we overreacted to the one catch. But I screwed up here because I started talking about their offensive line and just spaced. I called up a depth chart site that I usually use that is usually fairly accurate. And I was looking at it and I was reading off positions where it just wasn't the case. Like Anthony Knapp has moved inside to guard. Garby Lambert, who was recruited as a tackle, is a tackle. I mentioned Charles Jagasa and completely forgot he had the horrible ATV accident before last season.
Starting point is 00:40:28 And he's still dealing with repercussions of that. He's not talking about getting him back to health versus getting him on the field. It's not even a conversation right now. So that's my fault. I screwed up. That is my bad. I will do better. I was actually kind of amused by how mad people got in the Notre Dame world for the...
Starting point is 00:40:50 I wasn't amused at all. They were right. No, the Larry Fitzgerald situation. Well, but that, I think the offensive line part of it made it so much worse. Now, that was a promo clip. The context of the Devin Fitzgerald thing was not in there because we had done an Ohio state one right before that. So the overreacting to four seconds and explaining that that's us overreacting. reacting to out of context spring practice clips.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Like they didn't get that explanation in the clip. And then me saying dumb things about their offensive line makes it even worse. So plus they hate you. People, yeah, people make mistakes. Well, they hate you because you pointed out the head-to-head thing. I pointed out the obvious thing that everybody was going to realize eventually. Well, I think the committee probably listened to you more than anybody else. There was a thread on one of the Notre Dame fans.
Starting point is 00:41:44 sites about litigation towards me in my house after that. So I guess I do take full responsibility. Well, you're still in your house, so congratulations, I guess. But yes, the offensive line part, terrible, terrible on my part. That was awful. And I'm sorry. I messed that up. So we will do better.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Next question is not even a question. And the subject line of this email, I shudder to even read this. the subject line says this isn't a question Ari is right stop that's it shows over well it's from it's from our favorite question asker I just like to hear you say that that was wild it's from Lori yeah
Starting point is 00:42:27 hi I just heard Ari compare the first hit of heroin with winning the first championship compared to the subsequent championship as a Georgia fan hair flip I think Ari is spot on. I became a fan during the Mark Richter era. After being this close in 2012, but this close in 2018, chasing the high was my entire psyche, because we all knew it was possible. It just had to happen. It was going to happen. I had two babies with no drugs in 2012 and 2014, and I am sorry, but the feeling I had when Keeley Ringo caught that interception as he ran it
Starting point is 00:43:03 back to ICE the National Championship with Stets and Bennett relief crying on the sidelines was as good is the feeling of seeing my son for the first time, but with none of the physical trauma and therefore a better feeling. And the next day at work, I was so mad. I'm assuming this is the day after the championship, not the day after giving birth. I was so mad because after I had a baby, I was allowed to just bask in the joy, but instead that day, I was working as though nothing had happened. The very next year, hair flip again, when we went the championship again, hair flip, It's also very cool and fun and validating, but if someone is pretending that they experience
Starting point is 00:43:37 the same euphoria they had the year before, they are in fact pretending. But the good news is that when I pulled out of the Georgia hole and started paying attention to college football and more national alone and reading the athletic articles from Andy and Ari, I assume, and now you're on three. Not about Georgia, and now it's something that makes my life better.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Yes, well, I think if you're a Georgia fan and you read about other teams, you're gonna feel quite a bit better about, you in Georgia because you're still in a better position than almost everybody else. Now, the thing that I did not mention is with heroin, no experience, hair flip,
Starting point is 00:44:12 I think that when you stop taking it, the withdrawals of that feeling are really brutal, obviously. And I wonder, like if you're an Alabama fan who has been conditioned to winning at a high level for a long period of time and then you go back to being normal, if the effects of normalcy are worse than the effects of chasing it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:33 Yeah. There is a little bit of a withdrawal symptom thing there where it's like if you are a Georgia fan and you are used to now winning championships and competing at a high level and you go nine years not winning a championship, if then that feeling returns in 10 years, which it might. So that said, like if I were a Miami fan, I would be devastated by what happened. But I also would be encouraged and excited about the fact that I still have that purity of chase in me. And I think our entire job exists because the chase is what people want.
Starting point is 00:45:02 to Baskin. People listen to our show because they like envisioning the future. It's the same feeling that we get when we read mock drafts, right? Like what can be possible? Everybody is always, always, always in sports more interested in rehashing or visualizing the future than rehashing the past, which is why recruiting articles are so prevalent. And that's why it's so fun to talk about Larry Fitzgerald's son. You know, like it's because what's next.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Everything is what's next. Life is what's next. So thank you, Lori, for agreeing with me. I think that it's much easier to agree with me if you're a Bama fan or Georgia fan or an Ohio State fan than it is maybe for a team that's just dying to feel that. But trust me, if Miami wins a national championship and then it's subsequently good after it, nothing that happens after it will match the initial feeling. Can we collect the Indiana fans? Like, we should pull the Indiana fans, not now, but after this football season. How much did that change how you?
Starting point is 00:46:00 feel how much to change your relationship with your hopes and dreams you're also the reality of it too is if you're an indiana fan and they go win the national title again in 26 that'll be awesome it'll be amazing you'll be legendary you'll enjoy it you'll root like hell for it it will not match it won't feel like this year period so you know and that sucks because like it no matter what no matter how good you are after you win your first title you're on the downswing yeah well question, Lori. Our next question is going to come from COA. And COA didn't write this in.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Koa Kaai is Oregon's quarterback's coach. This clip made the rounds this week, and I loved it. It was so, because it's, it made some people mad. Some people just smiled. It was easy to mock. Easy to mock, but I actually, if we, and we're going to play the clip, if we listen to his reasoning for it, it makes perfect sense. So here's Kokiai talking about chocolate or vanilla. There are some things that you need to worry about with the throwing
Starting point is 00:47:10 motion and whatnot, but like really, how smart is a kid? What is his emotional intelligence? What is his football intelligence? That is one of the top things that we look for here, especially with the way that we play football, right? It's more like I mentioned, NFL style, you have to be smart to play the position, right? And especially at this place. So for me, a lot of it is getting to know these kids. I ask them a question like this all the time. Hey, do you like chocolate ice cream or vanilla ice cream? Okay, the minute the kid pauses, I don't really want that kid, right? Because you need to have some type of conviction, right, wrong or indifferent. So whether you like chocolate or you like vanilla, I don't really care. But if you sit there and say, oh, coach, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:47:46 I want, is it melted? Is it not? What's the brand, so on and so forth? Like, what is this kid going to do on third down in front of 110,000? It's probably going to think about it, more than he should. He's not going to have conviction. I would not be a good quarterback. We saw you trying to order dinner last Friday. Producer River was laughing about this. Unbelievable. This is like a 10-minute process. I struggle greatly in restaurants that have menus the size of a textbook.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Yeah, but it was a one page. That was a pretty extensive menu, guys. I mean, I've selected my entree within about 30 seconds. We're not talking about you. We're talking about what I struggle with. I struggle with that. But you're always very, you're always a confident order.
Starting point is 00:48:37 How many restaurants have we eaten together? And you know how I am. I struggle. But what, what Coackeye is trying to point out is he needs someone decisive. And, you know, he's conflating it with intelligence.
Starting point is 00:48:48 It's not necessarily intelligence because while I am very decisive, I am not always right. I am just decisive. But sometimes a decision has to be made. And so I love the binary decisions, though. These are so much fun. And so we're going to test you, Ari. I'm excited on the binary decisions.
Starting point is 00:49:10 And I want to see, because I do think there are going to be certain things that you are decisive about. But it just may not be the menu at an upscale sports bar. I'm much better at this or that than nine different continents of food. And there's more than that's more continent that exists. Okay. So you're more of a half-field reader as a QV. But that's okay. I'm good on my first read.
Starting point is 00:49:31 but like if you if the options are would you like a Ruben sandwich, a pizza, spaghetti bolognese, like you're talking about different genres of food. Barker. Yeah, yeah, I got it. That's why I like buffets because now you're uncracking my psyche. At the food court, everybody thinks I'm a psycho because I want to eat different. It's like that stops me for making a decision. I'll have a slice of pizza, a chicken finger, some mashed potatoes.
Starting point is 00:49:53 That's why I like buffets because then you don't have to worry about it. You're a psychopath. All right, here we go. Let's imagine you're at the buffet and you head over to the soft server. machine. Chocolate or vanilla? I'm a chocolate person. Good. I like that.
Starting point is 00:50:10 But I like chocolate, but I like chocolate. I choose chocolate every time. And it's interesting because I, you know, it used to say, ah, vanilla is boring. I do understand now, I've read up on it, that vanilla is actually an extremely complex flavor. And if we're talking about flavor profiles, that vanilla is probably the more interesting of the two.
Starting point is 00:50:29 And various. I just like chocolate better. I think it varies too. There are different types of vanilla, but I've always thought that with ice cream, that vanilla is better complicated or complimented with other things. And by the way, while we're on the topic of ice cream, I actually had this thought last night. I think sprinkles are terrible and the most overrated thing ever.
Starting point is 00:50:47 And that there's no flavor. They mess up the texture. Like, their existence is like awful. You know, okay, chocolate chips are good, but you know what's even better? Cookie dough. Cookie dough is great. M&Ms. Eminem's are great.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Heath Bar is really good in ice cream. Especially the mini Eminem's in vanilla ice cream. Yeah. Spectacular. Or in chocolate
Starting point is 00:51:09 ice cream. I'd take either one. All right, Ari. Your next one. Day or night? Night. I figured you would be very decisive about this.
Starting point is 00:51:20 You've always been a night person. I think this depends on how your life has gone. Both Ari and I started our careers working for newspapers, which makes you a much much more nocturnal person than a diurnal person. Yeah, I'm not a morning person and sports are always on at night,
Starting point is 00:51:37 usually dinners at night. Happy times at home happen a lot at night for me. Nothing good happens after midnight. Oh, plenty of good happens after midnight. Trussell said nothing good happens after midnight. And to that I say, you are wrong, sir. A lot of good things happen after midnight. Shows get premiered at night.
Starting point is 00:51:59 you put your daughter down early and you get your night to your like night is a very good time for me day is more stressful okay i see you're more decisive you you get better quarterback than you think yeah teupac or biggie two puck i i yeah okay that's interesting all right let me i i thought you might say that i thought you might be really decisive about that so i we don't have a a graphic for this one but i'm gonna i'm gonna alter it and see if it's this is more difficult Nas or Jay-Z? Nas. I think Jay-Z is the friends of hip-hop artists.
Starting point is 00:52:34 I figured you would say that. You're wrong. Jay-Z has made very good music. I think that he is treated as one of the best rappers to ever live, and I don't understand that part. He told you in a moment of clarity what was going on. I dumbed down for my audience and double my dollars. They criticize me for it, yet they all yell holla.
Starting point is 00:52:58 They uh, soul truth be told, I'd probably be lyrically tele-qualee. Truthfully, I want to rhyme like common sense. But I did five mil and I ain't rhyme like common sense. He told you. Yeah, he can do it. He just doesn't do it because he makes more money the other way. He just admitted that there are better lyricists than him in his own music. And then you say, no, he just admitted that he could do it, but it wouldn't sell very well.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Um, okay. Well, if you think, yeah, no, I just. You're wrong about it, but you were decisive, and I like that. Well, here's the one thing I will say is that obviously music tastes, everybody has their own, and I've never gravitated to his records. Yeah. But the Tupac or Biggie, I had a feeling you'd be Tupac, but I just, I wanted to throw it out there just to see. Because of discography is so much more extensive than Biggie's.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Biggie has a very limited amount of music. Right, because he was very young when he died. They also had only a lot of records from Tupac. And like the thing that was interesting about Tupac. that he could record 200 songs in a year, which is a talent that people, I don't think. Wasn't that to get out of the contract? I'm sure, but they were awesome.
Starting point is 00:54:09 So, like, I mean, he'd get a lot of work in a very short amount of time, all while being an incredibly good actor. Like, he was, like, making these songs while on the sets of other, of movies he was shooting. You've seen Tupac with Mr. Rogers, right? The AI. Yeah, I've seen that.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Yeah, it's hilarious. Tremendous. Have you seen the movie Juice? Yes. Very good movie. All right, Ari. Back to your choices. Okay. I think I know the answer to this one too. Okay. Sugar or salt? Sugar.
Starting point is 00:54:40 What? Are you sure about that? Yes, because sugar is the main ingredient that makes everything good. What about, but aren't you a savory person? I am a savory person, but sugar exists in bread. You couldn't, you could, like, if sugar ceased to exist, everything that we think tastes good would be gone. I think you're thinking of flour. I'm thinking of like carbs and how it converts in your blood. That's flour.
Starting point is 00:55:08 I would much rather have a savory thing than a sweet thing, but like sugars and Coke, regular Coke. That is a sweet thing. Yeah. That's just the sweet thing you like. I still think that sugar would be more of an important ingredient in the things that are very good.
Starting point is 00:55:22 If salt didn't exist, you could still make things, right? It would not taste very good. Like, I'm trying to think, like, you know about this better than me, but if you remove sugar from earth and you remove salt from earth, like what do those,
Starting point is 00:55:35 what does that look like? Like, can I not have fruit anymore? Well, I mean, naturally occurring sugars. I mean, are we removing those two? I'm talking about like refined white dixie crystals here. I still think I would take sugar. I think that like, okay, I love salt. I love salt.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Appreciate the decisiveness. It doesn't match your behavior pattern, but I appreciate the decisiveness. I'm also like addicted to regular soda. So like that is. Yeah. And like I do like slurpees and ice cream and stuff too. We got to work.
Starting point is 00:56:10 We got to work on the regular soda thing. We do. One more. Hug? Or kiss. Man. Tough one, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:23 You thought I was going to blow through this with the size of this. All right. So I'm like thinking about there are different types of hugs and kisses, obviously. Obviously. Obviously. But like there's nothing better in the entire world than when your daughter jumps into your arms and gives you a big hug, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I also very much like kissing my wife. So like that and without the kisses, there would be no daughter hugs. So, I mean, you can have hugs with more people and it's more socially acceptable. Yeah. Now, sometimes somebody might have a telephone lunds while you're hugging someone and that doesn't always end well, but yeah, especially. Yeah. the Red Rocks, but I would say
Starting point is 00:57:06 kisses. Okay. I thought you made a really compelling argument for hugs, to be perfectly honest. Have you ever had a really long day and like you're just sitting at the counter or something like in your house or on the couch and your wife comes behind you and gives you a big hug?
Starting point is 00:57:23 Like from behind and like this like, you feel better like that. That's good stuff. But if you remove. Again, another compelling argument for hugs. I know. Hugs are doing well here. But here's another.
Starting point is 00:57:34 argument for kisses. There are several. What drives men to do everything in life? I do have one more for you. I forgot I added this one. I texted River later on and added this one just for you because this is, I feel like this could be tough for you or not. I don't know if this is going to be tough for you or not.
Starting point is 00:57:54 I know you love both of these things. So I want to see where you're at on it. True crime or comedy? I don't know. I stopped him. Finally. they're very important both are very important to me i think i would probably say that i uh consume more true crime in totality because i listen to a lot of true crime while i'm driving but like you're talking about
Starting point is 00:58:24 no more stand-up no more laughing no more comedy movies like i i think i would almost get like i really like stand-up comedy too but like comedy movies don't exist anymore so like that's already gone um I think I would have to take true crime based on my behavioral patterns on a day-to-day basis now, but then, like, I could not imagine Earth without comedy. I think you'd be sadder without comedy. I think. Yeah, because I listen to some pretty morbid stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:54 You need to balance that out. You need the light with the dark. That's hard. Okay, Ari, I think you'd be a better quarterback than you think. Yeah. I think you're going to see that guy. pop it open and so here's what would have a hard time with though if you're like true crime
Starting point is 00:59:09 kisses or sugar like that night but fortunately dante more never has to choose between those three things yes that's and that to me is the is is what a very expensive menu does because it's like extensive menu because like that's do you want italian do you want greek do you want a rubin like there's like all these different options and it's just like harder but so we're You ordered a stone steak. You ordered a dress shoe. Yeah, but I picked it and ordered it. You go to all the menu.
Starting point is 00:59:43 You're like, oh, I can get a pork chop. I can give sirloon. I can get a ribby, pork belly mac and cheese. If you ended up ordering pizza at a non-pisa place, which was a mistake. But first of all, first of all, and second of all, River, I panicked because your order was so terrible that, like, I didn't want to, like, live in that way. You said it was good.
Starting point is 01:00:02 In the moment I ordered it, I said, sirloin, mashed potatoes, and bacon-wrapped asparagus. But sirloin is the work out of meat. First of all, I don't order steaks in sports bars, because that's not where you order a steak. And if you're going to give me shit for ordering pizza in a sports bar, are you not going to give him shit for ordering a sirloin steak in a sports bar? No, no, no, it's the process of which you win. No, rich, rich man, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Is that a money thing? Like, I don't. No, because what you did was you ordered it and you did not even miss. mention it once in the deliberation. Yeah. Yeah. It was the Mickey Mouse process. Yeah. This is this is the most fired up I've seen River about it. No, he was he was offended. But then you like ordered a burger and part of my thought process was well, we're going to be eating a lot of burger the next day. Yeah. Like that was like part of it too. It's like I only had one burger the next day at Culvers. I had now. I had three shakes. I don't know. That was a place that actually,
Starting point is 01:01:08 I don't remember what it was called, that felt like everything that you ordered was pretty good. But like I struggle when you are like... District Tap was the place we were. It was a really good sports bar. Great TV set up. So if you are in indie and looking for something like that, district tap is a way to go.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Also, I want to shout this out. We've mentioned on the show before, but we probably should mention it a few more times. Mother Wolf. Mm. We went to Mother Wolf in Miami. Keep talking. So one of their managing partners is a listener to the show and invited us to go when we were in Miami.
Starting point is 01:01:41 They have locations in Miami, Vegas, and Los Angeles. It is one of the best meals you will ever have in your life. The pasta was incredible. The steak was unbelievable. The desserts were amazing. Just one of the best meals I've ever had. I can't see that. Oh, there's the Motherwolf menu.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Oh, that's our menu. Oh, yes. He made a menu for us and put our name. on the menu. How much is that? It was awesome. And so I recommended Mother Wolf to a bunch of people and had a friend from Birmingham who was out in Vegas, went to the location out there, sent me pictures, said this is one of the best
Starting point is 01:02:18 meals I've ever had. So I did want to point them out as well. One of the, one of our, that's probably my favorite culinary adventure of last football season. Yeah. I mean, that was the best meal we had in all the football season. definitely was. Part of it, too, was that we got hooked up pretty good with a bunch of different variety, which is my favorite.
Starting point is 01:02:38 We had a bunch of different types of pasta. Yeah, it's one of those. They said, just trust us. We're going to take you on a tour here. And they were spot on every time. And then my wife went a few weeks later when she was in South Florida, too. So, yeah, thank you very much. So good.
Starting point is 01:02:55 And, like, if it wasn't, we wouldn't be telling. It was awesome. Yeah. Yep. So we're going to have some more. of those. We'll have some more of those here. I'm excited about this football season because we're going to get some places. We're going to see some new stuff. Monday, Ari, we're going to have some spring games to break down. They're not all streaming, but the good news is being part of the
Starting point is 01:03:18 on three network, we have reporters at every game, we have video of the coaches, we have video, players will have highlights. It is going to be a lot of fun to overreact to some out of context spring game clips. Gonna be spectacular. We'll talk to you Monday.

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