Andy & Ari On3 - The TOP Returning Quarterbacks in 2024 | Rising Stars in Carson Beck, Noah Fifita

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

As we inch closer and closer to the start of the 2024 season, we have Clark Brooks join to break down the Top Returning Quarterbacks in 2024. Is your favorite QB ready to lead your team to victory? Fi...nd out here(0:00-1:51) Intro(1:52-4:11) Clark Brooks Joins(4:12-9:13) Alabama QB Jalen Milroe(9:14-10:25) 80's Movies with Andy and Clark(10:26-13:12) West Virginia QB Garrett Greene(13:13-15:17) Liberty QB Kaidon Salter(15:18-16:29) Notre Dame QB Riley Leonard(16:30-20:49) Florida QB Graham Mertz(20:50-23:29) Clemson QB Cade Klubnik(23:30-26:55) Texas QB Quinn Ewers(26:54-30:12) Oregon QB Dillon Gabriel(30:13-33:05) Arizona QB Noah Fifita(33:06-36:50) USF QB Byrum Brown(36:51-41:27) Colorado QB Shedeur Sanders(41:28-44:30) Georgia QB Carson Beck(44:31-48:19) Notre Dame QB Riley Leonard(48:20-51:59) Penn State QB Drew Allar(52:00-55:55) Miami QB Cam Ward(55:56-59:09) Ohio State QB Will Howard(59:10-1:00:31) Concluding with Clark(1:00:32-1:01:52) Wrapping up - My Favorite Game starts on WednesdayWant to watch the show instead? Join us LIVE, M-F, at 8 am et! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn2g2Wy8uiE9BhDPV4knT7AHost: Andy StaplesGuest: Clark BrooksProducer: River Bailey

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Andy Staples on three. Happy Monday. It's a happy Monday for me because I'm on vacation right now. I know what you're thinking. Andy, I'm watching you right now. You're not on vacation. You're doing a show. Well, I wasn't leaving without leaving you guys some shows. We have lots to talk about this college football offseason because there really is no offseason and because the real games will be here sooner than you think. So I figured let's have some fun. Talk about some stuff that will get us excited for the 2024 season. And one of the things that I'm excited about are all of these quarterbacks that are coming back because there's not a lot of obvious great quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:00:47 When you look at Carson Beckett, Georgia, yeah, there's big expectations for him, but it's not like you have a returning Heisman-winning quarterback like you did the past couple of years in Caleb Williams and Bryce Young. It's pretty wide open this year. One of my favorite people that we work with on three is Clark Brooks, the SEC stat cat. He has taken a massive deep dive into the returning quarterbacks throughout the country. So this is advanced stat study, film study. He's got articles up on just about everybody on SEC stat cat on his website his youtube channel is going to have a bunch of video
Starting point is 00:01:25 breakdowns there's a lot to this study and i wanted to bring clark on to talk about all of these quarterbacks that are coming back because i know you guys have a lot of questions about these guys i have a lot of questions about these guys we've been speaking very much in generalities but clark has broken down the. He's broken down the advanced stats and found some very, very interesting conclusions. Clark, how are we doing? We're doing good, Andy. How are you doing? This is unbelievable. I'm so excited. You texted me about this when you started this project. I was like, holy crap, that is very ambitious, but you have pulled it off. I've been reading through all of, Carson Beck's now had a year as the starter at Georgia.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Quinn Ewers has been the starter for a couple of years at Texas. But then you have some guy like Connor Wegman at Texas A&M. We haven't seen him for a full season yet. We don't know what he is. Graham Mertz at Florida was completely different at Florida than he was at Wisconsin. So what are we getting out of him this year? So many different, you know different guys in different places. You've got your Cam Ward's and your Will Howard's.
Starting point is 00:02:51 How fun was this for you? Oh, I love it. I love quarterback talk. I love the schematics. I love how everyone is set up to operate, whether it is being a check down Charlie or an offensive executive or a field stretcher Fred. Styles make fights and college football is not short of any of that.
Starting point is 00:03:09 So I just really like to see how each person in their environment likes to operate. And of course, with how the scheme is kind of set up, you can kind of see how the staff feels about their passer. They might not be always wanting to pass downfield so much. That may not be always wanting to be as aggressive testing outside the numbers when they know the limitations a little bit better than us who are arm armchair generals at this time of year. Well, so let's talk about your the three categories you just mentioned, because that's a good place to start. We can kind of, you know, field stretcher fred check down charlie and what was the third one offensive executive that is just a diplomatic way to call someone a
Starting point is 00:03:52 game manager andy oh i like offensive executive better because being a game manager is not necessarily a bad thing so i i like that correct and you're just going out and executing what's asked of you so like it is what it is well listen everybody digs the long ball so let's start with the field stretcher freds i i think i know where we're going to start we've even created a name for for alabama's offense with jaylen milrow last year now obviously kaylin deborah comes in there will be changes probably but jaylen mil, the offense they built around him last year, we called it the Dinkin' Bomb because that's what it was. It was short high confidence or let's go deep. And tell me about Jalen Milrow as a passer, because it is fascinating to see
Starting point is 00:04:40 somebody who is so good down the field. And then kind of as you get closer, it gets a little dicier. That's right. Yeah, so high average depth of target in the history of SEC StatCat charting. No one had a higher makeup of yards come off the deep ball in a single season than him. Over 40% of his yards. So he's in a class of his own in that regard. But like you said, he could do a little bit better playing a little faster, prognosing things a little faster, because when he's hesitant, that's when all the sour stuff happens with his accuracy. So
Starting point is 00:05:16 what Alabama did like to do last year, a large part of their offense was pairing high lows outside the numbers towards the boundary. So that limits the distance of throws and puts things a little bit closer to him. And of course, it's a really easy to find read. If you're playing against cover four and you have what I like to call the corners concept, which is just an inverted version of the smash concept, where you'll have a flat route and a circus C corner, you're just seeing where that corner is going to attack. Is he going to drop and take away the deep route? Or is he going to anchor towards the close, closer to the line of scrimmage?
Starting point is 00:05:48 You're just going to try and make him wrong. It's a very simple, methodical type of thing, but again, when he doesn't like what he sees, he can hold the ball, an extra beat, and bite pressure. And as we saw, despite his athleticism, despite his open field burst, he's not necessarily the best sack eraser. And even though he was very great behind the chains and on later downs, it's just not a good success to set yourself up for those types of situations.
Starting point is 00:06:13 The best third down offenses, Andy, are offenses that avoid third downs the best. So in my opinion, he's got to get a little bit better on first and second down and set himself up for better situations long term. But that one time he had fourth and 31, it worked out. So that's how it really matters. His late down numbers were better than most SEC quarterbacks on first and second down. That should say a lot because obviously the degree of difficulty in later downs are much higher than at first and second when everything's basically standardized and you have extra
Starting point is 00:06:44 opportunities to move the ball. But on the do or die down, no one took care of business like him within the SEC last year. That Greg Digger play, fantastic execution, fantastic ball. Look, I like DJ James. I still can't exactly explain what all he was thinking to let that come open. Well, don't rush too. That's the other lesson here but yeah yeah because
Starting point is 00:07:07 again as we saw he can take some sacks so if you get him off his mark and make him drop his eyes for the extra beat and having to relocate guys he's just not as effective right now as fiery as a playmaker as he is well let me ask you this because one of the things i thought especially watching the rose bowl was you know we we've talked a lot about the the snap issues in the rose bowl so parker brailsford comes in to replace seth mclaughlin in alabama if jay lamero is getting the snap on his hands and is not having to look down and then look back up at the defense frequently, does that change, in your mind, those sack eraser stats? Because it feels like... But not all, because if we recall, what happened in the MTSU game?
Starting point is 00:07:56 Wild snap left, bouncing ball. He turns it from a minus 12 play into a touchdown. So he kind of needs that chaos to, you know, be the better version of himself. So I wouldn't say he absolutely has to play with the structure and be, you know, that pocket passer type of thing. He's going to just need to need some of that backyard ball in his game because that is often when he is his most aggressive.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Some guys, when the play breaks down, they're just looking for an outlet in space, like shorts, shorts to flat, what's there, just play hot potato, right? Not the case with Tim. He's just constantly trying to stretch the field within structure, outside of structure. So I think some of that chaos will be needed in order to maintain this potency, but no.
Starting point is 00:08:39 No one should necessarily expect to see that many wild snaps and consistently rise above the occasion like him. It's just Parker Burlesford, he's going to be a third-year redshirt sophomore, arguably the top center in the nation. So having that stability, because a lot of people want to think that's the big toe up front. That is your leader of your offensive line, having a more cerebral approach. If you can get everyone on the same page and you can limit those effort mistakes, those mental mistakes, you're definitely going to help your quarterback take the next step as well.
Starting point is 00:09:14 We do appreciate any stripes reference on this, on this show. So very nice. Shot in lovely Louisville, Kentucky, the 502. Yeah, I'm a big fan. There you go. It's actually on my summer movie madness watch list for Friday this week. So every day during the week during summer, I'm watching a fun summer movie. Last night, classic Jurassic Park. Stripes is due for Friday. Very nice. Now, Stripes falls apart in the second hour, much like Wedding Crashers. Oh, like when they have to go do something and leave basic.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I think it's... Full Metal Jacket, same thing. It's just, it's those army movies. What can you do when you actually have to send them out? Because obviously you can't really have funny ha-ha moments in the heat of a battle. It just, the tones can be an issue there. But I still think they,
Starting point is 00:10:05 I still think they did a fairly decent balance with the Joe Faggert, Drew Faggert guy, like the, the ticket, the toll booth operator, the Russian toll booth operator. There's enough there where you can laugh out loud, but it's still like,
Starting point is 00:10:18 okay, we got, we got to rescue these guys. We got to go do something. But that has been 80s movies with andy and clark all right there we go we got another field stretcher fred and this is one that i think people are going to be surprised when they hear this name because this is a guy who the the second longest depth of target in your study and he gets it down the field and now if you watch this team's
Starting point is 00:10:41 games i don't think it'll surprise you but but I'm not sure everybody was watching West Virginia games. Garrett Green is a master of chaos, is a master of chucking the ball down the field. Tell me what you found out about him. One of the highest percentage all plays outside the pocket. Now, some of that was from necessity, Andy. He's under six feet tall. You can't necessarily see the field well with all those big bodies in front of him. So naturally,
Starting point is 00:11:09 despite Neil Brown being of the air raid, classic air raid, how mummy disciple literally at Kentucky where there wasn't a whole lot of scheme elements, it's basically just drop back and just pepper those short targets underneath. Well, that was not the case with Garrett Green. He had the highest makeup of attempts over 10 yards downfield in our impact study. So 46%, that's remarkable. And again, the balls tend to travel both inside the pocket and outside the pocket. So dynamic playmaker, a little volatile in terms of down-to-down consistency like Jalen Millroad just because of the Berthel style of play. But if you're looking for an underrated playmaker, look no further than the guy in Morgantown.
Starting point is 00:11:52 I'm very excited to watch them this year because they retained, like last year, retained almost everybody they wanted to keep. Now, they don't have Zach Frazier anymore, who was a, you know, we talked about Parker Brailsford at center. But they do have Wyatt Milam. They do have Wyatt Milam who can be a first round tackle there. It's very nice. So just how the style of play is used to be, okay, we can recognize pre-snap, put a little
Starting point is 00:12:17 bit less pressure on the guys up front and get the ball out. But now you don't have to worry about a guy taking an extra beat so long because he's so fantastic with the ball in his hand. So PFF, their pressure to sack ratio, his clip was under 5%. So only 5% of pressures resulted in a sack last year. Lowest in the nation, a dynamic way to articulate how much of a playmaker he is, both inside and outside of structure, just negating losses and again, providing downfield splash plays. So before we move on, I want to do another field stretcher, Fred,
Starting point is 00:12:54 because this is a guy that I was actually surprised that he's still where he is, because I imagine there were going to be quite a few people coming after him. This is somebody who initially signed with a power conference school, with an SEC school, got dismissed there, wound up at Liberty. And Caden Salter really thrived in Jamie Chadwell's offense in year one. They go undefeated and then end up losing to Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl. But this is another guy who can really stretch the field. That's an offense where they use a lot of triple option concepts
Starting point is 00:13:29 as their play action. They're going to be in what most defenses would consider fairly unusual personnel groupings for what they're used to seeing. But they use that to create shot plays. Yes. Go find me a quarterback that has struggled under jamie chadwell and that will probably be the first one so high scheme stuff very fun stuff um no doubt about it it's just the process with him i'm a little worried about he needs to refine his mechanics when he's not
Starting point is 00:13:59 using the guises his ball placement plummets. 46% accuracy percentage on dropbacks without play action last year. That is not what you want to see whatsoever, no matter how vertical, no matter if you have the third highest EPA in the nation. You just cannot be that inconsistent. Now, he will not necessarily be playing the hardest schedule this year, so he could absolutely replicate his returns. It's just when you're looking at him doing things that other people can't do based on how wide open those guys are, there's just a little bit more question marks that remain. Still, the talent is there.
Starting point is 00:14:38 He's a dynamic extender. He's a dynamic field stretcher. Again, kind of like Garrett Green in the sense where not necessarily the most consistent guy when you're not using guises, but just how explosive you can be pushing the ball downfield effortlessly is always going to get people's attention, especially when they lead to long touchdowns. Yeah, it is going to be fun to watch uh what liberty can do year two in that offense but you're right i i'm i don't think i know of a jamie chadwell quarterback who has ever really struggled so i mean some people are still in the boat that they think uh
Starting point is 00:15:17 grayson mccall is really good well talk about an offensive executive Andy there's one oh a little preview there because you know we do have we do have NC State as as one of those teams that's kind of underrated in the ACC but I I will say as good as they've been defensively with Tony Gibson as their DC having an offensive executive isn't such a bad thing. Last year, they could have used offensive executives. Absolutely. You know, I was really high on Brennan Armstrong. I thought he was going to recapture his old self, but nah, he just couldn't really put it together. And, of course, way too many mistakes.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Way too many mistakes. So if you're able just to stay on track and win rock fights and just capture one or two more explosive plays than your opponents, that's a recipe for success that a lot of people are trying to follow. Now, I might want to have a little bit more explosivity and be able to score on any snap. But look, old school football coaches, they're all about trying to limit mistakes and do less boneheaded plays than their opponents to come out with victories. So let's move to the check down Charlie's. And I think this is one that has a negative connotation as well. But the first guy we're going to talk about, I think, was way better than people thought he was going to be in year one in his new school last year.
Starting point is 00:16:36 And I have some decent expectations for him in year two. And that's Graham Mertz at Florida because as you point out very different type of quarterback in Florida's offense than he was in Wisconsin's offense where he was a starter for for two plus years yeah he was still the secondary aspect in both regards but his average depth of target against his hardest opponents went down by three yards year over year. He targeted behind the line of scrimmage on 30% of his attempts. It was the highest in the SEC. And he joins Will Rogers and Mac Jones as the only SECer since 2008 to have a double-digit check down rate.
Starting point is 00:17:18 He did not throw the ball into harm's way almost to a fault. I would like to see a lot more aggressiveness, particularly downfield. Only 14% of his targets were contested, Andy. He was not throwing the ball to people unless they were fairly wide open or he was absolutely forced to, which again, did not happen far too often with a very low interceptable pass rate. So for me, I need to see that downfield stuff because you think he's a different quarterback than what he was at Wisconsin. Well, I need to see that downfield stuff because you think he's a different quarterback than what he was at Wisconsin. Well, I'll remind you, he struggled to hit people downfield as a Badger and he struggled
Starting point is 00:17:51 to hit people downfield as a Gator. Looking at uncatchable pass rate. So this is different from accuracy percentage. Accuracy percentage in my lingo is perfectly placed passes that do not cause the receiver to make an unnecessary adjustment to make the catch. Uncatchable pass rate on passes beyond 15 yards downfield, 45% lowest in the SEC.
Starting point is 00:18:16 And you can't blame pressure for that because his figure still remains in the forties. When you look at him just passing clean in those instances. So beyond 10 yards downfield in general, lower average in accuracy, below average in uncatchable by SEC standards. You can probably see why the staff didn't necessarily want him to throw the ball downfield. But look, we just mentioned how teams want to limit mistakes
Starting point is 00:18:36 and find edges that way. I do not personally think Florida is built up that way. I think they need to provide themselves more margin of error, throw downfield a little bit more. And if Mertz really wants to be in this conversation for being a draftable quarterback, no one's going to take him seriously unless he starts producing downfield. So here's why I think they were really risk averse last year. Defense was not good. Defense was bad. Defense has been bad. And so you're going to do everything you can to limit turnovers if that
Starting point is 00:19:06 defense can get a little bit better maybe you can take a few more risks offensively now we'll see we'll see what happens that's really depends on did florida do well in the transfer portal did the the guys they got in the secondary can they tackle like that's what's going to tell you if you can take a few more risks if you can't it may look the same yeah i mean the schematics are going to be the same this offense is going to be motion heavy play action heavy it's going to lean into aggressive tactics so that's why from from where i said it's ultra frustrating that the the scheme is trying to get that stuff it's just not really being executed so i found it really interesting.
Starting point is 00:19:45 One of their portal entry or additions, sorry, couldn't find the right word. One of their portal additions this spring, Elijah Badger, one of the best dudes after the catch in college football over the last two years. He has a broken tackle rate after the catch in the 40s. Would have been top 10 across the season. Fantastic. And outside of Oregon they're the only team returning two receivers that average over eight yards after
Starting point is 00:20:11 the catch so that aligns with the idea uh that they're going to probably lean into the short stuff again and put the onus on the receivers to do the heavy lifting so that's a good sign but still please just target downfield a little bit more for my sake. I don't want to see Eugene Wilson only operate on Utah tap passes and stuff towards the flat. Please send him down the seam on end breakers for my sake, because he's got game-breaking speed, game-breaking ability, and I want to see that stuff a little bit more downfield, where he's not having to maneuver between 10 guys to get 10 yards. Well, that's how he got smacked
Starting point is 00:20:45 in the Tennessee game last year and you ended up losing him for a few games. So that is a fairly good point. I want to go to another QB. This is a guy who Clemson has been different without a world-class quarterback. I realize that as a very simplistic way of looking at things, but it is the truth. Deshaun Watson and Trevor Lawrence made this a different program. Cade Klubnick, you have him as one of your check down Charlies. What does Cade Klubnick need to do to unlock this offense, to make this offense more dynamic?
Starting point is 00:21:24 Stop throwing the freaking ball into harm's way if you're going to be a conservative check down charlie can consistently targeting shorts you again you don't have that much margin of error you cannot afford to give defenses mistakes the modus operandi banks on being able to execute double digit plays every single drive you might not be able to get a lot of chunk plays, but if you're just methodically matriculating down the field, as Hank Stram used to like to say, then it works. But if you're throwing contested tight windows and you're giving defenses
Starting point is 00:21:54 chances to get you off the field, then it just completely mixes that operation. A double digit pass or double digit interceptable pass rate across our impact study. And that's excluding his last two games against South Carolina and Kentucky where he didn't look particularly his best self in those games either. So he's just absolutely got to stop putting the ball in the harm's way and be a better decision-maker where he's not tricked and not overly pressing trying to find completions.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Because I can get – he might be a little frustrated that he's consistently running the five s's of conservative football spot slant screens stuff like that um he's just got to add a little bit more teeth and I don't think he's going to be able to do so because last year as we mentioned uh field fresher Fred's his deep pass rate was the lowest in college football under seven percent so that's those are passes over 20 yards downfield that's just not a way to add margin of error is consistently targeting short and again giving defenses opportunity to get you off the field see that seems like a bad cocktail because we were just talking about mertz where you're saying he's being conservative he's not putting up but he's not putting the ball in harm's way you know conservative and putting the ball in
Starting point is 00:23:02 harm's way feels like a really bad cocktail. Really bad cocktail. And that's why he is not inside our top 25 impact quarterbacks ahead of this season. So, yeah, a lot to fix in that regard. He has a lot of perception to build upon this season to get people back in his corner. Before we get to the offensive executives, because I know people. Again, you think a game manager, you're like, oh, that's a boring. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Sometimes that's a good thing. But let's go back to something exciting. Let's go back because you did some superlatives and you have a category called performers under pressure. And it's people who, when they get pressured, they still figure it out. They find a way to make a good play happen. And your number one is Quinn Ewers from Texas. And it is really interesting where Quinn Ewers shows up in your study. Like Quinn Ewers, when chaos is happening, when he's outside the tackle box, when he's moving around,
Starting point is 00:24:01 Quinn Ewers is really freaking good. He's really good outside the pocket, Andy. Off the top of my memory, I believe he had the top success rate outside the pocket in our impact study. So one thing to look with him and the one thing that really people – that draws people towards him is his live arm. He can have a lot of different throwing platforms. Of course, when you're outside the structure,
Starting point is 00:24:23 you generally don't have your base underneath of you, your weight underneath of you, but that arm, that upper body just consistently finds wins. It negates. Now, he can do a lot better negating sacks, being a sack erasure. Again, he lost 10 pounds last year. That was a little bit of a questionable move, in my opinion, and what happened? Oh, he got himself freaking hurt so i think he does need a little bit more girth and be able to strength his way through those muddy pockets but look when he's outside playing back air ball the space and there's no one in the way he can absolutely find wins and he's really really impressive doing so yeah he's he's a lot of fun to watch i it's a case of you know can he can he stay healthy? I think because we haven't
Starting point is 00:25:05 seen him stay healthy for an entire season. Now, obviously I think Texas feels pretty good about its backup situation with Arch Manning, but it would be interesting if they could have Quinn for an entire season. Yes, absolutely. Because Steve Sarkeesian puts him in situations to succeed. So talk about, he would technically fall into an offensive executive categories too, Andy. High motions, high play actions, lots of guises and scheme elements. Just go out there and be our point guard quarterback and, you know, do a dink and chuck. That's my vernacular for it. Operation.
Starting point is 00:25:39 But when you're looking at stuff downfield in general, beyond 10 yards downfield, he was a good performer in that instance. So even if he is set up to succeed with high scheme elements, it's just the arm consistently shines through in areas that you want. Now, when he's not using those scheme elements and you're just asking him to be a drop back passer inside the pocket, when clean, there are some red flags, back-to-back years, his ball placement metrics. So adjusted completion percentage, accuracy percentage, uncatchable pass rate, interceptable pass rate, back-to-back impact studies fell below the group average. Now that is a massive red flag for someone who has first round aspirations. That's a massive red flag for somebody who likes to do a lot of their heavy lifting with their arm, but still,
Starting point is 00:26:18 because he just has that innate throwing ability, I'm going to hold out hope for him that he can put it all together this fall and really maintain his perception of one of the best in college football. That's a, I mean, Quinn Ewers to me feels like the ultimate no, no, no, no, yes, yes, yes, quarterback. Like it just, it's an adventure when he has the ball in his hands. That's definitely one way to put it. It's definitely an adventure. But is it going to be more like the heart of darkness or is it going to be more like Jungle Cruise? I'm hoping this is going to be a little bit more like Jungle Cruise this next season with a little less riskiness,
Starting point is 00:26:50 a little bit more laughs and jubilance and happy results at the end of the thing. Another one of your performers under pressure, and this is a guy who could have gone to the NFL. He said he got a 6-7 undrafted grade and said, you know he could have gone to the nfl he said he got a six seven undrafted grade and said you know what i'm staying in college he was not going to start at his old school because they have a former five-star recruit who's ready to ascend i could be talking about two different people here but i am talking about dylan gabriel heading to oregon who has has been an ultra successful college quarterback Clark I know
Starting point is 00:27:27 the NFL folks don't necessarily look at him as somebody they think is going to be super successful there but we we had Will Stein on last week like he loves Dylan Gabriel I think Dylan Gabriel is going to do big numbers in the Oregon offense. The question is, what's that going to look like compared to, say, what we were used to from Bo Nix? I don't think it's going to be much difference at all. So even though I think he was a little bit more vertical than Bo Nix was last year, this was a guy who was still a point guard quarterback. Tremendous year-over-year improvement against pressure.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Again, that's a volatile situation, Andy. There's a lot of different variables that can explain why somebody succeeded or failed against pressure. It could be just because of quick breakdowns up front. It could be because you're not playing a lot of good defense. It's good because your wide receivers are really good, getting open quick against man coverage. But as far as being a quick processor, getting the ball out quick,
Starting point is 00:28:23 there's no reason in my mind that Dylan Gabriel cannot hit the ground running. For Will Stein, another Louisville shout-out, Trinity High School. There you go. This fall. So, yeah, the stuff under pressure, it's really encouraging because of his maturity. Again, the NFL scouts might not like him because he's a small guy. He's under six feet tall. He's only about 200 pounds.
Starting point is 00:28:48 He's stocky and brick. You can really attack his mechanics in the sense that it takes an extra beat for stuff to come out at times. He looks a little too comfortable in the pocket at times. And, of course, when you're batting the ball off your back foot, some mechanical things can go awry, especially when you see somebody late. Do you have that arm strength, that arm talent to drive the ball downfield and still hit people? I'm not so sure, but still being able to hit people on line of scrimmage, using a lot of scheme elements,
Starting point is 00:29:18 you know, being a facilitator, a distributor, no doubt in my mind that he can't hit the ground running this fall. And you know what, Andy, I'm not necessarily a preseason bet placer but if I were so inclined he would be my Heisman bet entering 2024 how about that I I don't disagree with you because I think his completion percentage is going to be in the high 70s the numbers are going to be off the charts he plays a good schedule like they're going to play Ohio State they're going to play Michigan they're going to play Wisconsin they're they're going to see good defenses and he they're going to play Ohio state. They're going to play Michigan. They're going to play Wisconsin. They're, they're going to see good defenses and he's probably going to put up decent
Starting point is 00:29:49 numbers against good defenses. So, and, and they're probably going to be in the mix for the 12 team playoffs. So all of the ingredients seem to be in place for a Heisman candidacy for Bill and Gabriel. 100%. And again,
Starting point is 00:30:01 two fantastic pass catchers, Evan Stewart and Tez Johnson. So those are two dudes who, you know, we talked about some people having to need the wide receivers to do some heavy lifting. Woo. That is a dynamic duo to definitely lean on for Dylan Gabriel. All right. So another one of your performers under pressure, and this is a guy I love, had so much fun watching him when he took over the job in the middle of last season. And then he kept everybody there after their coach left. That is Noah Fafita, the Arizona quarterback.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Jed Fish leaves. I think we all assume that the best players from Arizona were going to go to Washington. Noah Fafita and then to Troy McMillan, his great receiver. They basically got together and said no we all are gonna stay here and we're gonna get it done for Brent Brennan so what did you find watching Noah Fafita um he keeps high inertia in the pocket again this is another short guy he's under six feet tall so if you're under six feet tall you kind of have to manipulate your throwing lanes a little bit he kind of bobbed and we weaved a lot, but that came in handy as he was able to burst
Starting point is 00:31:09 away from pressure or again, like I just mentioned, find himself a beat to find a throwing lane to throw downfield. So this wasn't the most vertical guy in the world. So pressure didn't necessarily, you know, affect him in that sense. And his verticality, sometimes pressures can come when you're, you know, like we just mentioned, waiting that extra beat for a downfield thing to develop and you're kind of having to throw him with a guy in your face that really wasn't the case with him he really carved up the mid-range in short areas of field both of Arizona's quarterbacks last year had bottom 25 average depths of targets so that remains to be seen if that will maintain or if he will develop more downfield production with Jed Fitch now at Washington.
Starting point is 00:31:47 But still, in terms of being able to consistently place balls, whether in pressure or in structure, arguably the most accurate quarterback in the country. Yes, again, it is easier to hit targets when they're closer to the line of scrimmage. But his consistency, particularly, Andy, hitting mid-range end breakers, oh my gosh, it's one reason why a lot of people are starting to flock to him, despite not necessarily having a juicy, juicy downfield arm. Well, that's the thing. If you've got guys who can run after the catch, those midfield end breakers can turn into big, big gains, as anybody who watched the 2018 Ohio State-Michigan game can tell you.
Starting point is 00:32:26 It is a big-time advantage if those throws are accurate, and if they're not accurate, it is very dangerous. So that is a very good skill to have for Noah Fafita. Also, Mr. McMillan, top-graded PFF receiver against man coverage. You want a guy to get open, he's got a guy that can get open. Yeah. I don't know how anybody covers that guy. I really don't.
Starting point is 00:32:54 His combination of size, speed, length, athleticism, it's pretty close to perfect. So that's going to be a fun combo to watch. Now, some of these guys were in your offensive executive category. One offensive executive, though, that I would like to highlight is somebody that I'm not sure a lot of the country knows a lot about. But this is a guy who goes to Alex Golish's offense at USF. Alex Golish leaves Tennessee as the OC, comes to USF to take over. Very good first year. And a good reason for that very good first year is Byron Brown at quarterback.
Starting point is 00:33:29 So let's tell the folks a little bit about Byron Brown. So he just missed being included in the field stretcher Fred category, and that was just because his results were not great. But this guy can drive the ball downfield. So this is the maximum dink and chunk operation. Lots of stuff short or all or nothing deep with vertical choice route. So it is basically Tennessee scheme verbatim. So he is an athlete that can move outside the pocket and get some wins that way.
Starting point is 00:33:57 But look, the scheme does a lot of his heavy lifting. So he's still very inconsistent against the meat of his schedule. But the traits are there for Byram downtown Brown. So in terms of scheme elements, basically over 60% of his impact study came off a play action screen or an RPO, tremendously high. So that just tells you how much the scheme is just trying to do so much of the work for him now he's very very good attacking short hitting those underneath curls underneath flat routes it's just the consistency hitting guys downfield can you put those traits with that operation or is this going to be joe milton 2.0 yeah that and that's listen there's tennessee fans that just
Starting point is 00:34:43 kind of get the shakes when you say that because that will counter tunnel screen don't you just love that stuff Andy over and over again over and over and over no no once right in the office and that's the thing like if if USF is going to take the next step and maybe win the American which I think there are people looking at them as a dark horse title contender in the American this year. They've got to have a little bit more diversity and make sure that he's not Joe Milton part two. Right. I mean, he does offer, I would say a little bit more scrambling ability down to down than Joe Milton did just because like it was out of necessity. But I think
Starting point is 00:35:21 I may have mentioned this to you last year, Andy. If I was starting a program from scratch and I wanted instant results, forget about the flex phone, the triple option, run the super spread. You do not need an elite offensive line to find wins. You do not need elite wide receivers to find wins. You let the scheme do the heavy work because you lean into that explosive play battle. If you can get one out of three of your deep balls to be completed, that's a lot better than getting half of your five-yard passes completed. So it's just, can he get that consistency together? Because he has the ability absolutely to drive that ball downfield out the numbers. He's just got to deliver a more
Starting point is 00:35:58 catchable ball. And when you say super spread, we're talking about the old Art Bryles-Baylor offense, which has evolved quite a bit. Josh Heupel runs it at Tennessee. Lane Kiffin runs a version of it at Ole Miss. Jeff Levy was running it at Oklahoma. He's now going to run it at Mississippi State. So we've seen it kind of spread throughout the country. Yes, and again, Utah State dabbled with it for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:36:20 So there are quarterbacks out there who have found success, who are fairly mid, but they have top 3000 yards doing so. And we're about to see if Blake shaping can be the latest guy to do so because I wasn't necessarily impressed with him. But just because I have that respect for that scheme, I think Levy is going to put him in situations where he can put up a decent amount of numbers and potentially propel the Bulldogs to a bowl game. But we'll see about that. Oh, potentially to bring you back for some bold predictions if if we're going there. and potentially propel the Bulldogs to a bowl game, but we'll see about that. Potentially. I'd like to bring you back for some bold predictions
Starting point is 00:36:48 if we're going there. But all right, let's move away from the categories now. I'm just going to throw some quarterbacks at you because I know the folks watching, there's some guys that they just want to know more about. And one guy who we're going to talk about a ton this year, especially in the preseason, especially heading into some of those early season games is Shador Sanders because Shador
Starting point is 00:37:09 Sanders being looked at as a possible first round draft pick, obviously great success at Jackson state early success last year at Colorado as the protection got worse, it felt like his, his production declined. But what did you see from Shador Sanders watching him? When he likes what he sees, the ball comes out quick and it's on target. Very high passing floor. I think arguably one of his best traits is his downfield ball placement in structure, hitting the upfield shoulder of his receivers. Now, he can do a lot better targeting outside the numbers.
Starting point is 00:37:41 He was a little rocky in that regard against his hardest opponents. And obviously he buffered a little too much, but I think he just has natural athleticism. And because of his mechanics and structure, he can be a very effective quarterback. So when we're looking at passing floor, it's kind of the inverse of what we were just talking about with the offensive executives. When we're stripping away all that crap, and we're just looking at you in clean pockets without guises um how can you go out and execute when he likes what he sees high accuracy high success rate low uncatchability low interceptable that's the other side of the coin he didn't really throw the ball in the harm's
Starting point is 00:38:13 way so he might have held the ball a beat too long he may have taken sacks a little too much but he did not throw the ball in the harm's way he did not give uh opponents opportunities to get him off the field so So I really do like his play with instructor. Now, some of that is scheme based when you're going empty. A lot of the emphasis for those schemes can be attacking sideline to sideline. Shock F Lucy and my terminology. So that's an inverted stick with a slot option route. He really did lock into those option routes. And as you know, if anyone who's played quarterback, those breaks can take an extra beat to come open as the guy's reading down the field
Starting point is 00:38:51 if he's going to break out or break inside based on available leverage. He doesn't necessarily know where his guy's going to be on every given snap within two and a half seconds. And because of that, as we saw, some things broke down a little bit more often than you would like. But still still when he likes what he sees when the ball comes out quick when that pre and post snap process aligns he absolutely can be a first round quarterback because of that now they started out running
Starting point is 00:39:14 the super spread last year and then Deion panicked and and demoted Sean Lewis and and they went to Pat Shermer which you know it's what they ran at the end of last year, probably not exactly what they're going to run now. It was them just adjusting as best they could, but it does seem like this will be a little bit different offense than, than they ran last year, uh, with more play action, more, you know, traditional pro style is probably the wrong term, but what people were used to from NFL type offenses in the early two thousands, you know, if we're talking about what Pat Shermer is used to,
Starting point is 00:39:51 that is what Pat Shermer has been doing. So is that, could that potentially help Shador? Could that hurt him? Does it depend on the line? Uh, based on what I've seen, I'm a little precarious on that notion on the fact that that he was not a good play-action passer last year, Andy.
Starting point is 00:40:08 One of his biggest flaws is when he drops his eyes and invites chaos ball. Well, what happens on play-actions most of the time? You take your eyes off the coverage, and you're trying to sell a deception tactic. And when he had to relocate guys downfield with his average frame, he's not short by any means. 6'2", that's fine. But that's kind of average to the fact that it's not necessarily ideal if you have to drop your eyes and relocate with that tactic.
Starting point is 00:40:30 And again, they didn't do it a whole lot, and he was just bad selling it, and he was bad executing that stuff. So I'm not sure if that's going to be the right fit. I still think they lean into more spread elements, pass screen options, empty formations, quick trigger type of stuff. Because again, while they didn't necessarily have the best offensive line, I don't have a whole lot of confidence what they replaced their departures with will ultimately be a better product.
Starting point is 00:40:56 So I am interested to see just how much they are able to evolve. For instance, if they can do stuff like this, screen pass options, but instead of like a rinky-dinky slant or something, you're actually having a sale concept with a swing screen in the background. So it allows you to have a little bit more verticality because that's one of the areas of opportunity for him is being more potent. Down to down, the floor is great. The ceiling, it has potential to be great because we know how his traits can translate.
Starting point is 00:41:23 But can he go out and consistently produce downfield? I'm not so sure unless the play calling gets a little bit more aggressive, like things like that. So let's move on to a guy that I know you liked based on reading your study. And that's Carson Beck at Georgia. This is the guy that we are assuming is the first quarterback off the board in the next draft. Obviously that's kind of a fool's errand this time of year.
Starting point is 00:41:47 That doesn't always come to pass. But Carson Beck certainly seems like kind of the most NFL ready of the quarterbacks in college football right now. Yeah, I'm terrible about player comps, but he just really reeks of Jared Goff to me. Very sturdy within structure, nice off play action, good frame to see over the line and see downfield. And he has layer ability to where he can throw a fastball or kind of a soft toss around some other people. So he was an
Starting point is 00:42:20 offensive executive last year within the SEC. If you were to omit the super spread quarterbacks, Georgia has consistently finished in the bottom of the league in true drop back percentage. So, again, that's just dropping back, no play actions, no screens, no RPOs for three straight years. So it's nothing new with them despite having Mike Bubba now call plays. So when he's not using that type of stuff, he does throw the ball into harm's way a lot.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Even though he was not pressured hardly at all, he did throw the ball into harm's way fairly commonly when he was under the gun. But when you're just looking at a guy who can check boxes, very few can do so quite like Carson Beck. And even though you say you don't want to assume he's going to be QB one, not to make an ass out of you and me, but when you typically do assume you're right about 62% of the time.
Starting point is 00:43:08 From where I sit right now, I do think that Carson Bett is set up to be one of the better quarterbacks in this class because there's not a whole lot of people who can do things like him at his size and be as accurate as he is. Because when we're looking at throws over 10 yards downfield, he was one of the top producers winning in the SEC last year, and on throws over 15 yards downfield, his accuracy and uncatchable pass rate are tops within the conference.
Starting point is 00:43:34 So what can he do better to kind of solidify his spot? Passing against pressure. Against his hardest opponents, 20% of his passes could have been picked off. That is unsustainable. Even though he was only pressured on about 19% of his dropbacks last year, lowest in the SEC, that is not a long-term sustainable aspect. And that's why – That's not going to happen in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:43:55 You're not going to have that much better of a line of scrimmage than – You're going to be pressured a lot more often. That's why I brought up Jared Goff. Jared Goff, in structure throughout his entire career, he He deals and we are seeing it right now in Detroit. He's got a massive payday, but he has consistently sucked under the gun and that hasn't changed from going from LA to Detroit playing behind a great offensive line themselves. There's just when things break down, he kind of falters.
Starting point is 00:44:19 So I definitely need to see more heightened play against play against pressure and less mistakes against pressure and just more, as I say, consistency in that regard. So now I want to go to a guy who's in a new place this year and a bit of a limited sample size last year because he's injured a lot of last year and in some cases trying to play through injury. And that's Riley Leonard, who's at Notre Dame now, was at Duke.
Starting point is 00:44:44 And we all saw that horrific angle ankle injury against Notre Dame and then him trying to play through it as the season went on but you went back and looked at a healthy Riley Leonard earlier in his career what is Notre Dame getting in Riley Leonard a high passing floor quarterback so he executes core concepts very very well early in 2022 Duke did a little bit more scheme elements to give him easy completions but that was basically a one or two game thing and then they completely erased that stuff out of their script very standard type of pattern so people in the Kansas City world the Andy Reid disciples they know this play as
Starting point is 00:45:22 Hank it's a curl flat combo. Very basic. It's a middle school play. You'll see it all over, but that and stick, those were their two most executed concepts against their hardest opponents last year. Each had a success rate over 60%. So while I might have some qualms with his ability to throw downfield and be a downfield producer, his processing power, his cerebral approach to the game and be a downfield producer. His processing power, his cerebral approach to the game is on a class of its own compared to this current crop. And again, when you bring in his healthy legs, that is another dynamic that other people just cannot offer. At the time of his injury, he had the top yards per attempt among quarterbacks in the SEC, consistently low drop back conversion sack ratio,
Starting point is 00:46:08 consistently low scheme elements that he didn't necessarily have a lot of gaming completions that he leaned on. So again, when you're looking at people at the next level, you can absolutely see why people like Mel Kiper Jr. are very high on him. So dealing from muddy pockets, he had to deal with that quite a lot. And not being at 100% strength, you can kind of dismiss the stats some, but still recognize he still has to have a little bit more potency. But still, it's just phenomenal how he can distribute
Starting point is 00:46:36 in the short area of the field. So do we think that with Notre Dame's talent on the offensive line, and obviously they lose Joe Alt, but Charles Jagasaw takes over, it seems like they've been able to just have a factory there on the offensive line. When he has that level of protection in front of him, how much does that change things for him? A lot, because I mentioned the high passing floor.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Again, in those situations, back-to-back years, his success rate beat the impact average. So that just tells me when there's not a whole lot of bullets, there's not a whole lot of adversity, and he can just go out and execute the play as asked, he can absolutely do it. The thing is, as we know, Notre Dame uses more scheme elements than Duke does. So I'm curious to see if that play-action stuff will add a little bit more potency to his game, or if it's going to be a little bit more leaning into the mobile stuff. So more bootlegs,
Starting point is 00:47:31 more stuff on the move to get them, you know, leaning into that mobility of his, or if it's going to be strictly play action stuff from the pocket. So I'm, I'm curious to see exactly how he's used, but again, with the cerebral approach,
Starting point is 00:47:44 getting guys lined up, being able to recognize things pre-snap and he's used. But again, with the cerebral approach, getting guys lined up, being able to recognize things pre-snap and, let's just say, negate poor blocking. Not to say that I think Notre Dame can have a bad line, but you never know. As the season progresses, I just think he's really set up to take care of business in that respect. Yeah, and by the way, Mike Denbrock, the OC at Notre Dame,
Starting point is 00:48:02 used to dealing with a guy who's pretty good with his legs in Jane Daniels last year. And unlocking downfield potency, which was one of my biggest concerns with Jaden Daniels, his whole underclassman career. He definitely liked to take what the defense gave him. It's just, hey, man, can you have a little bit more trust to throw the ball downfield? And we all saw what just happened this past season when that happened. Let's go to a controversial guy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Controversial figure. Uh-oh. Penn State's Drew Aller. I knew you were going there. So high levels of disruptions. You cannot mention his name without mentioning the dysfunction around him. So he saw a lot of quick pressures. He had to throw the ball away.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Some receivers ran the wrong routes. And he had a lot of quick pressures. He had to throw the ball away. Some receivers ran the wrong routes, and he had a lot of drops. If you pull all those things together, Andy, that number of disruptions, highest in college football. So inherently, his bottom line is going to take a hit with that. He's not going to have the best accuracy in the world. He's not going to have the best catchability in the world. He's not going to have the best success rate in the world.
Starting point is 00:49:02 And as we know, looking at his very conservative style of play, being a caretaker of the, of the, at the quarterback position, he was not throwing the ball into harm's way, nor stretching the field. Talk about a guy who did not want to take a pass on a target. He knew he could not complete. So, um, a very nuanced discussion when you're talking about him, because clearly he, he negated mistakes better than practically anyone last year. And like we mentioned before, that's not worth nothing. That is a very nice recipe for success for a lot of teams. I just have a little bit of reservations that you have to provide a little bit more potency, a little bit more juice downfield. So I think his anticipation needs to
Starting point is 00:49:41 get better. I think his play with instruction needs to get better. Because when you account for all that stuff going wrong and you're looking at the passing floor situations, Andy, not to keep beating a dead horse, but when you don't have scheme elements that can pad your bottom line like screens and RPOs or adversity like pressure or stuff outside the pocket that can hurt your mechanics and therefore you're down to down ball placement, well, without that stuff, below average accuracy, below average on catchable pass rate. Now he was
Starting point is 00:50:10 a first year starter. You would like to think that he can make some strides there, but gosh, you're going to have to do a lot of debating with yourself on if that was just truly who he is or if that was ultimately a reflection of his environment. I do believe it's a little bit more of a 50-50 deal more than the 70-30 approach. And look, he's losing his best wide receiver. His receiver wanted nothing to do with him. He would rather play with Peyton Thorne. So to me, that speaks volumes.
Starting point is 00:50:37 That's cold. That's cold. It's cold for June, but what are you going to do? Julian Fleming coming in. So you got a little bit of help. Former five-star that's done absolutely nothing. So yeah, you can talk yourself into the upside all you want. I knew you were going with that.
Starting point is 00:50:52 I know you can talk yourself into the upside all you want, but I mean, oh, he also scared away Dante Cephas, who was a fairly good potent pass catcher at Kent State in 2022. So I just, I don't know where the juice is going to come from, especially if he's not going to develop more confidence throwing downfield. Like we mentioned, it's a lot easier to get explosive plays the more often you target downfield as opposed to putting the onus on your receivers
Starting point is 00:51:19 to make 10 guys miss to get 10, 15, 20 yards consistently. So very, very similar conversation, Drew Aller and Graham Mertz. Very much. A lot of similarities there. Yeah, let's talk about – Just because, like, their stature, like, they're both bigger, taller guys. They can move, but I wouldn't necessarily call them, like, dynamic athletes. But it's just can you maximize caretaking the ball with a little
Starting point is 00:51:48 bit more explosivity can you do that because again i just don't think penn state's in the in the position to get to where they want to go by just committing less mistakes than their opponents speaking of getting where you want to go speaking of a team that is expected to do better things in 2024, a roster that looks like it's ready to succeed. Miami brings in a new quarterback. Cam Ward comes from Washington state. And this is one of those that, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:17 everybody was very excited about. Cam Ward was one of the big targets in the transfer portal. A lot of schools said, well, if we could just get Cam Ward. So Miami got him, but what are they getting in him? They're getting arguably one of the best downfield throwers in the class. Now, since his days at Incarnate Word, you do not have to worry about his live arm.
Starting point is 00:52:36 He just impresses. He's a bouncy athlete, and he has undeniable talent. It was just reigning in the consistency. So there's a lot of different methodologies to do that. Over the last several years, you have just seen his average depth of target go down and go down and go down and target closer to the line of scrimmage more and more and more where there's more surefire completions, more schematic elements to get those easy, gimme things and less downfield throws. So his chunk of passes in our impact sample targeting beyond 10 yards downfield, it was the lowest in the group.
Starting point is 00:53:10 And when you have a big, strong arm like he does, that is kind of a concern because, again, can he throw downfield and not throw the ball in the harm's way? Or are you doing that just to hit, you know, beat the dead horse and just really go in after that consistency? So I don't know whether it was selection bias again you're only targeting things you know you can complete but for whatever reason his downfield accuracy particularly deep was immensely strong compared to our other impact sample guys so um even though yes very easy to pad your statistics with the
Starting point is 00:53:44 short stuff when he did target downfield with that live arm, very nice returns. But the big drawback, Andy, despite the staff reining him in, his interceptable passes doubled year over year against his hardest opponents. So you could say that was because of backyard ball. He himself is a guy that kind of buffers sometimes, drops his eyes and tries to do a little too much outside the pocket as opposed to just take what's there and live to fight another down. You could say the backyard ball stuff enticed a little bit more aggressiveness, and since he wasn't pushing the ball downfield outside of the structure
Starting point is 00:54:16 or in general on an average pass, sometimes they're a little bit more contested. Sometimes there's a little bit more tight window tries than you would like to see, and when you're throwing the ball to where there are defenders in the vicinity, sometimes you just get a lot of bad breaks. So he has to fix that stuff. And we just saw a season where Tyler Van Dyke was a walking turnover for much of the season. And some of that was because Miami played behind constantly against their hardest opponents. 76% of Tyler Van Dyke's attempts last year, Andy, came with Miami trailing by a field goal, and almost 40% came when they were down by two touchdowns. And of his 21 interceptable passes, 11 came in those instances. So a very
Starting point is 00:55:01 considerable chunk of those passes. So if Miami can not trail and have a lead on the scoreboard, then he'll be all the more tenacious. It's just I'm a little worried because the schemes, they're kind of similar in the fact that they don't like play action. They prefer more true, standardized, air raid staple like stick, all verts, curl flats, spot with dual slants, very rudimentary type of things. But again, like Scherzer-Standers,
Starting point is 00:55:30 if the pre-snap and the post-snap alignment stuff comes together, he absolutely can be one of the best quarterbacks across the nation. Well, I think you've made Miami fans excited and scared at the same time, which is good. That's how they generally operate, right? They're very braggadocious, but in the back of their mind,
Starting point is 00:55:45 they're always thinking, how is this going to fall apart? How is this going to fall apart? Exactly, exactly. Well, when you shave a U into your chest hair, that's how you tend to think. All right, let us move to another transfer. We're going to close out with this guy. This is a guy who goes from Kansas State to Ohio State,
Starting point is 00:56:03 will be surrounded by more talent than he's ever seen before in his life, but will be expected to win the national title. Tell us about Will Howard. Will Howard, so prototypical size, 6'5", 240. He can move. He can add a little bit of an element in the run game, the designed run game. Now, Chip Kelly, we all know that's where he makes his bread and butter playing basketball on grass. Now, he's not going to be the biggest eraser in the world. He's going to take some sacks. He is going to falter against pressure in my opinion,
Starting point is 00:56:35 but if his feet are fine, he is fine. Now, looking at downfield accuracy, he had the top mid-range accuracy percentage in our impact study. 61% of his throws, 11 to 20 yards downfield, were perfectly placed. Fantastic. Now, his deep stuff is a little average, and you could really hone in on his throws outside the numbers for not being particularly sharp. He has a perception of being a soft tosser, Andy. So being a bigger guy, you would like to see some more fastballs, some more downfield leads towards that upfield shoulder if you're leading a guy vertically. There's just not a whole lot of examples of that. He definitely prefers to target someone's frame and giving them an after the catch opportunity. So really good
Starting point is 00:57:23 attacking inside, particularly inside the numbers, attacking contested tight windows, really good timing in that regard. Of course, you're going to have to be able to do that in the NFL. You can't just strictly do one-on-one curls or one-on-one go routes. You're going to have to be able to ask true, fulfilled concepts. And even though I do think that his play against pressure is a big, big concern. Just him and structure in general, particularly off play action, he absolutely can provide that element that has been missing for Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Because Kyle McCord, he was a fairly okay, consistent down-to-down passer. It's just he pressed a little too much. And, of course, those mistakes cost Ohio State where they want to go. So I think he can provide more margin of error in that regard, not throw the ball in the harm's way, add a little bit more potency. And again, with that sturdy lower body,
Starting point is 00:58:14 add a little bit more of an element in the true run game. How much could it change things to have Emeka Buka and Colonel Tate and Jeremiah Smith as your targets versus who you were throwing to at Kansas State? A lot. So we just mentioned some blue chip prospects. At Kansas State, Will Howard had five career completions over 10 yards downfield to a blue chip, and they were off a transfer this past season to Keegan Johnson.
Starting point is 00:58:41 So his other best receiver last year, Phillip Brooks, was 5'8". Reminder, our guy is 6'5". It's like throwing to your little cousin in the backyard. Sometimes you have to take some zip off the ball. The trajectory doesn't always work. And despite that, like I just mentioned, his downfield accuracy was really, really strong. So with a uptick in weapons,
Starting point is 00:59:03 I really do think he's going to have a special fall i do understand some of the drawbacks in this game i just think he's going to be able to have a special special fall well clark we have a listen the recall on this thing is amazing because for those who don't know clark's not looking at a screen this is all in his head yep just lie i know you have a screen in front look i. Look, I'm looking right at the camera. You're not seeing where I'm going around. That's it. That's it. Yeah. But the level of detail in this research is amazing.
Starting point is 00:59:30 I really appreciate it, Clark. Tell everybody where they can go to find all of this information. I'm still doing some construction on my website. It still looks a little sophomoric. I do apologize, but I'm trying to turn out content this time of year. Preparation for the season, that is secstatcat.com. I'm also going to try and do basically a longer breakout of our discussion here, what we just had with Andy, on the top 16
Starting point is 00:59:55 returning core four volume passers in just a little bit more detail. We're going to break them out with their traits, their pass charts, their favorite concepts, and again, their statistics where they can have some areas of opportunity in that regard. So look out for that on the YouTube channel, SEC Stat Cat. And again, you can always follow me on Twitter at SEC underscore Stat Cat. Also, we appreciate you helping us try to make Core 4 a thing because it rhymes and it rolls off the tongue. It does, and you can't say Power 5 anymore because it rolls off the tongue. It does. And you can't say power five anymore.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Cause there's no power five. It's all about repetition. We just got to keep going. Clark. Thank you so much. Have a good one, Andy. That is the great Clark Brooks.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Awesome discussion of the returning quarterbacks this year, but that's not all we're doing this week. Later in the week, the My Favorite Games series. So we'll have shows on Wednesday and Friday. We're talking about My Favorite Games with some of our team site experts. Brett Hubbs from VolQuest talking Tennessee. Chris Ballas from the Wolverine talking Michigan. Spencer Holbrook from Letterman row talking Ohio state and Jake row from
Starting point is 01:01:08 dogs HQ talking Georgia, their favorite games involving the teams they cover. It is so much fun. I'm telling you right now to relive some of these great games that we're going to talk about. So stay tuned Wednesday and Friday. We'll have those shows and trust me, we're not done with
Starting point is 01:01:25 those because I had so much fun making those. If we didn't get to your team, we will be doing your team at some point, I promise, because we had a lot of fun and I want to do as many of those as we can. So thanks so much for watching and we'll see you next time.

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