Andy & Ari On3 - The transfer QB who could change EVERYTHING for Iowa

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

Over in the Hawkeye state, anticipation is mounting for South Dakota transfer QB Mark Gronowski. As the Iowa Hawkeyes have positioned Gronowski to be QB1 in Iowa City, a number of media members have s...elected the Hawkeye signal caller to be a potential breakout star of the season. Watch here as T-Bob Hebert joins the show and explains why Kirk Ferentz's offense could be much improved ahead of the 2025 College Football season. (0:00-5:44) Intro: Introducing T-Bob Hebert, Mark Gronowski(5:45-10:11) T-Bob Hebert joins(10:12-14:11) Does being a good looking QB help?(14:12-18:32) LSU visiting Clemson in Week One(18:33-26:27) Looking back at 2010 - Tennessee at LSU(26:28-41:00) Crazy College Football game endings(41:01-50:07) Who's Betting Who?(50:08-52:11) Andy in the Netflix SEC Documentary(52:12-1:02:01) Win Total Changes(1:02:02-1:03:41) Fresno State at Kansas Week 0(1:03:42-1:08:03) Conclusion: New Mexico Lobos - Kids Get in Free Later, T-Bob takes us down memory lane and recaps what happened towards the end of the 2010 game between Tennessee and LSU down in Baton Rouge. Afterwards, Andy & Ari recall their top endings to games that changed the course of the both team's season. Which is your game? Continuing on, the win totals have changed! Andy & Ari take a deep dive into which teams are getting the most money coming their way and the changes in the win total department. Did your value go up or down? To conclude, Andy & Ari take a look over at New Mexico, where the Lobos have a great deal for kids 12 and under. Also, New Mexico's head coach and athletic director have some serious acting skills. All that and more on a jam packed episode of Andy & Ari On3! Watch us on YouTube! https://youtu.be/qNAecv1_SUM Hosts: Andy Staples, Ari WassermanProducer: River Bailey Interested in partnering with the show? Email advertise@on3.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Annie and Ari on 3. Got a very special guest today. Our man, Teabob Abear, joins us, former LSU Center. He's got a new gig at Barstool Sports, and he's loving life. But listen, he has not left the world of college football, even though he's not doing a daily radio show in Baton Rouge anymore. He had a very interesting take on one of his shows the other day about a quarterback who has transferred from the
Starting point is 00:00:31 FCS to the FBS, sorry. And we got to get into that with T. Bob. Yeah. He was wooed by the charisma and the looks of a man. And we're going to be put to the test with your Devin Dampeer obsession. His Mark Ronowski obsession now, how much
Starting point is 00:00:50 can you fall in love with a guy in the offseason and how much can that person change the trajectory of your program in Iowa is interesting every year for a variety of different reasons. It must be a nice breath of fresh air for Hawkeyes fans for that reason to be. They've got an exciting quarterback who's jumping up a level,
Starting point is 00:01:08 plays like a psychopath in the complimentary way. It might actually have a chance to put Iowa on the scoreboard a little bit more, which then in turn will put them in a position to win some bigger games. I'm super excited to see how that pans out, and T. Bob was awesome in describing what he loved about it. Here is T. Bob on unnecessary roughness, one of the bar school shows. So he's there with Brandon Walker, And they're talking about Grinowski, and there's, there's video of the, of the meeting where T. Bob and and Grinowski meet eye to eye. And, and you can watch a man fall in love. Just, just watch.
Starting point is 00:01:41 It's the guy that I talked about earlier. I think Grinowski, like, is going to give good quarterback play to Iowa. You just looked him in the eyes. What? You just, he was here and you found love. You looked him in the eye and you fell in love with it. That, that's all fair. Okay, look, I'm not saying that's not infecting me. It's absolutely infect my opinion. but again the resume is fucking absurd yeah i mean the the level of actual success this is not kade macnamara or any other bull like no this is a player here and you know with quarterbacks you can get the vibe yeah and the vibe that he had was one of a leader supreme confidence give me granowski breakout player of the year pretty bold it's one thing to say you think he might
Starting point is 00:02:23 be pretty good breakout player of the year in a year in which there are nine thousand candidates. I just came up with another list of on, like another on three list. Oh, a listicle. Ari has a listicle in mine now. Have we done breakout players? We talked about that? Or have we talked about it? If we had we did it three months ago
Starting point is 00:02:43 and you can always do it again. And by the way, check your listicles every few months. Like, just make sure in the shower you check your listicles and there's anything out of normal, call a doctor. But maybe toss some tea tree on them. Exactly. Exactly. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:59 But Mark Grinowski breakout player of the year is a bold statement, but not a terribly bold statement, because if he is good, if he makes Iowa's offense competent, we've talked about what Iowa's defense and special teams always are, they're always good, then you're talking about potentially a team that could make the playoff. Now, their schedule is hard. This is not an easy road. Iowa State out of conference, very tough. They've got Indiana. They've got Penn State. Minnesota is going to be tough. They play Oregon.
Starting point is 00:03:32 They play USC. Obviously, they finish off at Nebraska. This is not easy. But competent quarterback play plus Phil Parker's defense. We have not seen those two things together in a long time. It's very exciting, Ari. Yeah. We don't know how good the defense is going to be.
Starting point is 00:03:49 We're in assume it's going to be good because Phil Parker touched it territory. Last year, their offense was much better than the year before. I wonder. Down a little on defense. I wonder now if you add a quarterback into the momentum that they have, if they could have, I mean, this is a question that sounds crazy, but I'm going to ask it, could Iowa's offense even be good? Listen, I'm not ready to go crazy yet, and I think Kirk Ferrence is still going to be pretty conservative. What's your line of good, though, like in the CFP total offense rankings, like what ranking do you have to be to be good? I see I don't total offense doesn't mean anything it's a it's a meaningless stat because of tempo
Starting point is 00:04:32 it doesn't mean it doesn't mean anything uh for iowa though who but office offensive efficiency success rate that sort of thing like if i was a high success rate offense oh my god yeah um all these offensive stats confuse me like what is the total what is total offense again i thought that was just total offense is just how many yards you gained yeah right um but if you run a lot of plays total offense means more you're going to gain a lot of yards if you don't run many plays you won't gain many yards. But Iowa's total offense is a pretty revelatory category for them specifically because it means if they did run a lot of plays, then that's a huge improvement. Well, they're not going to run a lot of plays relative to everybody else because they run a fairly
Starting point is 00:05:10 slow tempo. If they are in the top 50 in total offense from a field position standpoint, they're feasting. They are. And that's the other thing is they're going to, they're going to steal yards from you on special teams, too, plus on defense. So yeah, if Mark Bernowski's good, Katie bar the door. Well, let's talk with Teabob, and he can explain it even better than we can. And listen, he's smitten. And I don't blame it. Here's Teabob.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Join now by our friend Teabob A Bear, and he's in his new home. He has moved from the boot to Chicago to join Barstool Sports. You can see him across the gamut of Barstool Sports. shows. But Teabobb, we had to have you on, not just because Derek Dooley announced a run for Senate, but because you are on board with something that we've been talking about. And I saw a clip of you talking about Mark Grinowski, the Iowa QB, who came from South Dakota State. And it got me thinking about these guys, these new guys who are brand new to their teams who could change everything for their team. But is it the clip I saw.
Starting point is 00:06:27 on unnecessary roughness. Like, did you lock eyes with Mark Grinowski? Is that just... Yeah, they came him in, um, Jennings Dunker, the big badass, Torman, Giant Spain looking redhead tackle came by the studio, uh, for a day. And I, I absolutely love them as a combination. Like, you can tell that, you can tell that Grinowski really knows how to get tight with the alignment and Dunker's got this like, just fucking insane intensity about him.
Starting point is 00:06:56 like he's always doing this with his eyes and he was like that's absolutely terrifying yeah and he was like he was like happy but kind of like scowling the whole time and just like i don't know like he was awesome i love i love dunk as well but you know with quarterbacks quarterbacks have to be leaders of men right and like an ancient like roman general standpoint Like, you hear Tom Brady's teammates talk about him, and you can feel how much confidence they gain just by being on his team, right? Like, Grinowski has a bit of that effect where you can feel his intangibles. You can feel his confidence. You can feel his comfortability.
Starting point is 00:07:48 And it's like, well, of course, look at his resume. I mean, Walter Payton, which, I mean, that's the, what, that's the FCS Heism, right? Like, Walter Payton Award winner, a two-time national champion. He's something ridiculous, like 49 and 6 as a starter, something absurd like that. And so this is not, this is not like Kate McNamara going to Iowa, right? A big high school player who does never quite depend on, maybe this could be it. No, this is like a legitimate, proven guy. trying to break the curse of Iowa quarterback.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Now, the only problem is, even though this was on the IRSC, last year, I have had a friendly schedule, been an incredible defense. They actually had a better offense, but yet somehow they screwed it up. I read a crazy stat in Pigsick's Exprejia. Iowa was 74 and 2 in games in which they had amassed a double-digit lead going into last season.
Starting point is 00:08:50 they lost three such games last year. So they kind of, they had a great opportunity last year. Now their schedules harder. I think they faced five of the top 17 to the Big Ten. They missed the bottom four. They lost a lot of guys defensively, but they got the quarterback. And so it's kind of going to be a fascinating commentary, I think, into like, even though on paper everything else looks a bit worse,
Starting point is 00:09:15 could they be better just because they now have the most important positions? Right. I feel like this is a perfect quarterback for you because it's an interesting cross-section of like all of your interests. You know, you've got football. You've got what the Roman times in battle. You've got a curse that needs to be broken. Like this could be like a screenplay that you could get after. You could sink your teeth into that one. No, I mean, I love the story. Also, he is very handsome. He is a very good-looking man. And honestly, that's another thing with quarterbacks. Rare is the, a great quarterback that's ugly if we're just being completely honest. Yeah. What do you think? We do the same thing about head coaches. Yeah. We have head coach good looking for like Marcus Freeman.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Yep. You know he's going to be successful. I mean, there's all kind of stuff with like presidential elections too, right? Where maybe we've, you know, now that everybody that runs for office is just old as shit, like that's gone by the wayside. But it used to be a thing where like, you know, being good looking definitely helped
Starting point is 00:10:13 your, uh, your chances. So I don't know. I'm, I'm, I'm fascinated to see again, um, can Grinowski finally give Iowa some semblance of like consistent good quarterback play? You don't see a lot of but ugly quarterbacks because you have to be pretty attractive like physically to play the position to begin with.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yes, yes. And then like successful ones get rich and to even if you start ugly, you get good looking. You can get good looking. You maximize as good looking as you can be. Who's the ugliest starting quarterback in the NFL? I feel very bad, but like... This is mean.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Lamar Jackson is doing the most with what he can, but he's not like, he's not the best-looking individual. I would rather be an ugly starting quarterback, though, than a handsome normie. Yes, I would a thousand percent be Lamar Jackson with multiple MVP's over, uh, over Jared Gough. Who is there? We'd rather have two MVP's or two MVP's or a three MVP's or a three. symmetrical face.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yeah, yeah, exactly, right? Yes, exactly. I would, I will take the MVP awards. Now, best looking core. I mean, I don't love Matt Stafford's veneers. I think those are, that's, that's one where maybe the wealth did him wrong a little bit. I got a teeth whitening situation for my birthday, and I've thought about veneers. Veneers are, but sometimes you get them too big, you can land an airplane on those bad boys and they go off the rails.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Andy, I know we don't have a lot of time. Just do your next. No, I'm happy. He's running against Steve. He's like, I was a little bit of the T-Bob said what he said because of the interaction with Mark Grinowski and one of his linemen. Because Ari will attest to this. I did the same thing at Big 12 Media Days.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I ran over to Ari. I was like, okay, I just met Devin Dampeer and Spencer Finno together from Utah. Like, they're going to win everything. Like these two, by the way, Devin Dempier, very good looking. Awesome player, too. Awesome player. And when he opens it, like the second he opens his mouth, you're like, oh, no, this is that dude. Like, this is the guy, everyone gravitates to the moment he shows up.
Starting point is 00:12:29 When you were playing, was there a correlation to you between people with charisma, natural, just like human charisma and being good on the field? Do you think there's a connection between those two things? So I don't think that it is a, I don't, okay, well, how am I going to try to say this? I don't think it's like a barrier of entry if you don't. Like I've played with a lot of great players who aren't charismatic and are still very, very good. They're just kind of quiet guys lead by example or whatever. And I've seen some charismatic guys that maybe aren't the best,
Starting point is 00:13:08 but I guess the overall point would be that when you are a guy who is great and very charismatic, that's when you go to the, the next level. Like those are your greatest team captains. Like the ones who can inspire by example, inspired by speech, the guys want to play for a likable. And then the only way to further that even more is to have that guy be the quarterback. Like that's when you've really made it. When the quarterback is charismatic, he's good at football, he's your leader. Like that's when you're, you can make up for a lot of, um, maybe deficiencies that your team has. Because like I always think about football like chess where in chess all the pieces have like assigned point values for when
Starting point is 00:13:53 you're making trades is very like simplistic stuff like generally like pawns are considered worth one uh knights and bishops worth three rooks five the queen is worth 10 football is the same way the quarterback position is worth double that of anything else and so yeah if you have that piece and it's being used correctly yeah it can change everything you have a handsome chess piece. You're in good shape. I was going to say, yeah, you're an LSU guy. You just did a radio show in Baton Rouge for the last 10 years. Like, where is
Starting point is 00:14:23 Nuss in that continuum? I mean, I think he's elite. Now, he's I don't know, like, because he keeps it pretty buttoned up publicly, right? Like, he's, he's not super taciturned
Starting point is 00:14:41 silent, like he'll kind of joke I guess a little bit with the media, but he's Also not someone that you come away like, oh, my God, like that guy's hilarious. But it seems like the boys really like him. I mean, as a player, he's great. I love his growth last year where, look, last year was his first year starting, even though he's an older player. And just by literal circumstance, that means that everything he went through he was going
Starting point is 00:15:06 through for the first time. So if I'm an LSU fan, what I'm taking a lot of heart in, which makes me feel good is did Nuss struggle midseason? Absolutely. But it's how he bounced back from it. Because that A&M game into, was it A&M into maybe Florida and then Alabama, things got bad for a while there. And being that was his first time having an extended slump on that stage, it would have been very easy for him to just continue to spiral. And yet he hit the brakes.
Starting point is 00:15:39 He dominates Fandy, dominates an Oklahoma team that just dominated Alabama. and then dominates the bowl game and finishes the season on a very, very high note. So, no, I mean, I think the only guy, look, I have Nuss number two on all my quarterback list just right behind Kate Klubnick because quarterback can also be situational. And to me, Kate Kovnik is an elite quarterback in a perfect situation. And Garrett is an elite quarterback in a very good situation. And they play each other, right out of the gate. I know.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I know. How are you feeling about, because your reaction to LSU's opening losses, of which there have been five in a row, they're pretty epic. Like what happens if that, if we're lucky, we live for eight decades.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And I've now had a half of a fucking decade where they lose the opener. Do you know how crazy that is? In the first decade, I'm not even aware of what's going on in your life. Exactly. So seven decades and we're lucky. Six. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:50 The last one you might not be either. So. Yeah. Fuck, fine. And I have a decade. But no. So I, I'm not picking LSU to win. If that's what you're asking.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I can't do it. I've picked them all five years in a row. Like, I just can't. Like, out of principle, I can't. You've saved them. You just won the game for them. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Exactly. They're actually going to be really good this year. They're actually like the last few years there were transition years where it's like, well, you know, I know maybe looking at hindsight now, we don't appreciate the Jaden Daniels era enough. But going into that year, I don't think we were anticipating they would be that offensively.
Starting point is 00:17:28 This year there's actual legitimate real expectations and I think the highest amount of pressure that an unfirable coach is facing. Yeah, that's well said. Yeah, I mean, no, they are going to be really good. The problem is, climson's going to be fucking awesome like do
Starting point is 00:17:46 do any top 10 player in the country list and there's at least three Clemson players on there and like it could be four depending on who you want to put on and who you want to take off so like and there could be five by the end of the year so like Clemson winning to me
Starting point is 00:18:02 or me choosing Clemson to win is not me saying LSU's not good it's just combining their first game struggles with the fact that I think that Clemson is up there with it like again I think that I think LSU is a playoff team I think Clemson's a championship contender T. Bob I know you have a hard out so I got I got to get into this we actually booked you before this happened but then it happened and I was like this is just the content God's showering praise upon us uh Derek Dooley is running
Starting point is 00:18:36 for the U.S. Senate in Georgia yeah he was the coach on the opposite sideline in a game that I have heard you refer to as your favorite that you've ever played in. I will let you set the scene, but 2010, LSU, Tennessee, can you take us through the final couple plays of that game? We have some visual aids too. Yeah, so, okay, so it was Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:19:02 They weren't any good. We were very good that year. I think we finished 11 and 2, ranked top 5, but they were awful. and we were about to lose to them. We actually scored on the very first play of the game, and then nothing after that. And so we get the ball back.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I think we end up going, it's our last chance of the ball. I think we end up going on like an 18-play drive. But in the middle of it, I started playing guard. In the middle of it, our center got hurt, and I switched to center, which is funny given how the story ends. But so basically, we're on the goal line. We have no time out. I think there's about 30 seconds.
Starting point is 00:19:41 left. And we call a running play. Now what that means is ideally, if you're going to call a running play in that situation, worst case scenario, you need to have a follow-up play called so that if you get tackled in bounds, everybody's on the same page about
Starting point is 00:19:57 what comes next. Is this why you're standing there looking at the sideline like this before that play? Yeah, bro, there was no second play. All we had was zone read. I think it was zone read. And all we always had was zone read and the and oh shit was it sorry i got distracted by a message okay all we
Starting point is 00:20:20 had was zone read we had no follow play so george jefferson getting tackled inbound clock is running nobody has a play nobody knows what's going on and then the coaches are all signaling different formations um the oc ends up calling we're not like a power formation he ends up calling he ends up calling for a spread. Like I think we went from like two tights to like four or five why with a running clock with under 30 seconds left. This helps explain what happens later though. Yes, yes. So so none of it makes any sense. It's it's completely discombobulated, but thankfully everybody was looking to the O.C. And so at least the personnel somehow got correctly on the field. Like we had a love guys. But so duly sees the substitutions happen. And it's like a, it's like one of
Starting point is 00:21:09 those 4D it's it's it's it's like I okay how would I explain like he he started to panic because he thought we were instead of being discombobulated he thought we were pulling like a next level
Starting point is 00:21:23 strategy move like we had drilled this to death this is all a part of the plan and he was like oh fuck like I got a match sub for sub so then he runs more guys on to the field but they don't run any guys off that four guys run on for Tennessee
Starting point is 00:21:39 and two guys run off. Yes. But we don't know any of this because we're all like just focused on ourselves. We're fucking panicking. And we're lined up. Jordan's still looking at the side line and play.
Starting point is 00:21:50 I'm looking at the scoreboard. I see three, two, and so at two seconds, I just said fucking and snapped it because we didn't have a play. And last year I'd been in a game where I let the clock run out against Ole Miss to zero
Starting point is 00:22:04 because I was waiting for the ref to blow the whistle. So this time I was like, all right, fuck it. I'm not going to let the clock run out. I'm just going to snap it. And it was a good snap. It went by Jordan because he was looking at the sideline, but it was a good snap.
Starting point is 00:22:15 It was right at his hip. And so it looked like a fumbled stab. We had lost the game. I tossed my helmet. I'm fucking furious. Well, it turns out. Duly thinking he's won the game walking off the field. Oh, bro.
Starting point is 00:22:26 I saw one Tennessee player do a full, like, round off back flip in front of my face. And I remember even through my like, and I was seeing red, even through my rage, I remember being like, holy shit. That was, pretty cool. That's pretty badass.
Starting point is 00:22:44 So I am like furious. All of a sudden flags 13 people on the field and then it sets up the ultimate it is football distilled down to its purest essence because it sets up a one play from the one yard line if you untimed, zero seconds, like if you score, you win, if you don't you lose. like that's fucking awesome and then we end up storm we we we and less called his favorite play like that was yeah it's power we just ran power of course red and butter less miles like yeah power toss goal on power toss that is that is lSU football of my era um so that was great and very embarrassing for duly the ultimate mad hatter movie getting tracked down on the sideline by less miles for the handshake bro it's it's so funny it is it is the literal example of doing something so dumb that it ended up being smart like like you you ended up
Starting point is 00:23:45 managing to make the other team you acted so absurd that the other team had to match you in your absurdity and you guys were four wide without changing personnel at the goal line that would have been great just just bump out the tight ends
Starting point is 00:24:01 I still don't know I bro the craziest thing is that we were in a legal formation and also I don't know how you had 11 on the field because your substitutions were just or appeared to be just as discombobulated as theirs and like the best is the replay
Starting point is 00:24:17 during so they they stop things the broadcast booth realizes something's up the game's not over and you see the white hat ref and it's a very quick call from the booth he's like oh 13 men on the field he's like too many men on the field illegal participation
Starting point is 00:24:33 and then so the broadcast goes to count let's count the guys like that's just 11 and it was just 11 for Tennessee and then you see like as you guys are running guys off like four more LSU players run on the field somehow you got to 11 so four Tennessee players begin to run on the field two Tennessee players begin to run off no I'm sorry three Tennessee players begin to run off yes two of them keep going one of them gets to the hash mark and turns around and goes back as four more come on. So it was. Yes. And now that's the man that wants you to trust him to put him in the U.S. Senate. I mean, look, these football coaches becoming politicians make sense because football
Starting point is 00:25:23 coaches are eagomaniacs. And the only way that you want to be a politician is if you're an eagomaniac. But like, get the fuck out of here, dude. I mean, get the fuck out of here. Like, at least Tuberville had an undefeated season that should have been a natty. But he had, like, five wins in a row against Bama. Yeah, that's fine. Mahomes, guys.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Like, that's a big deal. Wait, what did you say? What did you say, Arnezzarville coached Mahomes? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, you know, I, yeah, I don't, like. He never did, by the way. He just said that. He just said he did.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And then people factored it. Oh, wait, I did not know that. He didn't even recruit him. Kingsbury staff. I would say that like Derek Dooley's decision making with it and an entire ordeal does not inspire confidence. That's incredible. Tevobb, I know you got to go.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Thank you so much. We love you. Always appreciate you, man. We'll do longer next time when I got my shit set up. All right. Yes, sir. See it. Later, guys.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Ari. That play, I had forgot. I had forgotten how absolutely insane that play was. I was laughing my ass off going back through it to find the screen grabs last night. You brought this up between shows. You said we need to find more of these plays and call people who were on the field to explain them to us. And I'm thinking like the Boise State stuff in the Fiesta Bowl, the Statue of Liberty, LSU was involved in another one.
Starting point is 00:27:06 He's the Bluegrass Miracle when they played Kentucky. That was a huge one where they snatched victory from the jaws of defeat. I was under Sabin, I believe. There's so many of these that were just bizarre, crazy endings. What was that Arizona State game last year where Kenny Dillingham was on the field at the end of the game? There's multiple ways of doing this. You could do iconic play, which were just really like the Statue of Liberty play or the hook and ladder play from Boise
Starting point is 00:27:37 but you can also do just nonsense plays like things that happened by accident that like just you know college football being college football it's just completely unhinged you know yeah it's absurd I'm looking at I'm looking through a list
Starting point is 00:27:53 of plays that are like the most iconic plays in college football history right now I mean obviously the Cal Stanford band play is number one right and I'm sure that they've had somebody come on and discuss the intricacies of what happened there. But there's a lot in like the 90s that were pretty crazy. I'm trying to think of like more recent ones from the past five years that happened.
Starting point is 00:28:14 That would be really cool to get details of. Well, drop them in the chat. If you have, you know, your team was a victim of one of these or the beneficiary of one of these or sent us an email, Andy Stapleson3 at gmail.com, R.E. dot washington and on3.com. if you have one of those that like you can't stop laughing about or it still hurts like we want to know because that was a fun fun segment with Teabobb explaining what like when he goes it was a good snap right at his hip like I want that perspective from people who are on the field he's got the charisma Andy I'm going to put you on the spot
Starting point is 00:28:57 what do you think is the most iconic play individual play of our adult lives Vince Young Superman or the Statute of Liberty for Boise What about
Starting point is 00:29:13 Sirman against USC What about Reggie Bush's The push touchdown Oh Kick 6 The Bush push Ah
Starting point is 00:29:24 Bush push was fine Kick 6 is more iconic than that Yeah The kick six Has to be it right Yeah because it was also something
Starting point is 00:29:31 you never see in a regular game. Like, has there been a kick six like we remember since that? No, there was one on a Monday night football game in the NFL. I don't know if they scored, but they did return one. The touchdown pass. Second and 26, two at a Monti Smith. Second and 26 is a really good one because of the stage, too.
Starting point is 00:29:59 But like the kick six was a bizarre play. and it happened in a rivalry game and it also altered who played for the championship that year. Correct. So that's correct. Because the winner won the SEC West, went to Atlanta,
Starting point is 00:30:11 and then the winner of that was going to play for the national championship. What about the Michael Crabtree touchdown catch against Texas in 08? Oh, that's a tremendous one. Although it didn't change, well, it did change you play for the national title because if Texas wins that game,
Starting point is 00:30:28 they would play, they probably would have wound up playing in Florida for the national title. of Oklahoma. And then, of course, the bluegrass miracle in O2 between LSU and Kentucky. Yeah. Trying to think. Were you going to say, One River?
Starting point is 00:30:40 I was going to say, was it 2016, the game, Michigan, Ohio State, the first down? Oh, yeah, the measurement. Yeah, the measurement, yes. J.T. Barrett did his butt cross. Yeah, that was a debate for a while. That was a big debate. How about the Appalachian State block of the kick against Michigan? Holy Buckeye, the 2002 Ohio State touchdown pass late in the Purdue game that kept their national title hopes alive.
Starting point is 00:31:09 They went for it on fourth and two and threw a bomb for a touchdown. That was a pretty big one. You two were not born for Hale Flutie. I actually remember watching Hale Flutie live as a six-year-old. Yeah. Hale Flutie was insane. I think we got all the big ones because I'm actually trying to like research this as we're talking about it. And like by memory, we got all.
Starting point is 00:31:31 all the ones that I'm saying the most. Yeah, I mean, the kick six, I think, because of everything, like second of 26 was for a national title, but because the kick six happened in the Iron Bowl was such a strange play, such an unusual play, I think that's got to be it. It would be my vote just because I can't even think of other people who have returned missed fuel goals in the time since.
Starting point is 00:31:58 So for it to happen on that stage and in that moment, Like, what are the odds of that? Like, Chris Davis, does he get recognized every second because of that? Yeah, you want to talk about like a 15 second clip of your life basically defining it? I can't imagine a better. And interestingly enough, because I just remember this from the great Sports Illustrated photo from the national title game that year, Chris Davis was covering Calvin Benjamin when Benjamin caught that pass in the back of the end zone to win the national title game. yeah so chris davis was on kind of both sides of that yeah um that's right i didn't i forgot
Starting point is 00:32:38 about that and benjamin was just like way bigger and taller and longer he was yeah i mean we thought he was like college college megatron all over again yeah um and then it did not to work out the NFL but like we have to come up and we need their you know listeners help what about like weird ways that just happened like in like in the same vein as the one that we discussed with t bob yeah because that that that Tennessee LSU game really didn't have a huge impact on the grand scheme of that season. It was just incredibly bizarre. But I think what I don't want to over promise and under deliver here,
Starting point is 00:33:11 but I think that if we get some good candidates, Andy and I will do our best to use our Rolodex as to try to get people who are involved in those plays on to talk about them. Because I thought that was really interesting. And it might be a new little layer to the show that people would enjoy. Let us know what you think. I love it. So yeah, give us your ideas because I guarantee you all of you and your memory banks have a player or two that was bananas that maybe everybody else has forgotten about that we'd love to on earth. Because honestly, I'd not thought about the 13 men on the field, LSU Tennessee play until Derek Dooley announced he was running for Senate.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Yeah, like what were the most successful broken plays? Hmm. I mean, well, back to Auburn, the Cam Heisman moment play where he has the run against LSU, I always, I still think that's one of the more amazing plays I've ever seen. I don't know if that is on the level of the stuff we're talking about, but I was always, I've always been fascinated by that play because can you win the Heisman in one play? No, but when you have that as your, as the lead to your highlight, package it's hard to lose it yeah the uh how about johnny mansell dropping the ball and picking it up and throwing a Ryan Swope against Alabama yeah uh that's definitely one of them you know i know it's kind of recent but the touchdown pass uh that jalen hurts had in the iron bolt two years ago to bernard uh you mean jel milro jay yeah jillan milro What did I say? Jalen Hertz.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Bernard wasn't playing for Alabama yet. It was Isaiah Bond. Jalen Mill Road to Isaiah Bond. Sorry. Yeah. You should probably just edit that out and start over. So the South. It's funny because we have the kick six.
Starting point is 00:35:08 And like in any other rivalry that Jailen Milrow, because the fourth and goal from the 31 or the 20s. I'm forgetting a big one, too. It was a pass to 20. I'm forgetting another one, Andy. The surrender, Cobra play, the blocked punt in the Michigan State Michigan game. Oh, you guys right, trouble with the snap. Yeah, where, you know, he bobbled it and they returned it for a touchdown to win the game.
Starting point is 00:35:36 The clowny, I guess this is just a crazy play, but the clowny hit on Michigan in the backfield of the bowl game. So I was at that game. I was in the, I covered the Outback Bowl. This was back when I had the full weight of the SI travel budget. budget and I could go wherever I wanted to. So New Year's Eve, I had that incredible Clemson LSU-Tage Boyd Peach Bowl where Clemson ran like 111 offensive plays and the LSU players were cramping in the tunnels after the game and they were so tired. I got on a plane the next morning. I land in Tampa. I go straight to the stadium and it's the Outback Bowl. So you get steak,
Starting point is 00:36:20 and bloomin onions right at your seat. And so I'm munching away, and you're just watching that game. And so do you remember what happened immediately before the clowny hit on Vincent Smith? So they had a measurement on the sideline. It was actually on the South Carolina sideline. Oh, yeah. Did Michigan make the first down or not? And they didn't, like, very clearly didn't make the first down.
Starting point is 00:36:44 And the reps like, first down. And so, like, and you don't want anything bad to have. happen to Vincent Smith. But like that is the ultimate ball don't lie play. And I, I have never, because I respect the don't cheering in the press box and it wasn't cheering. When that hit happened, when Jadavian Clowney hit Vincent Smith, I just jumped up and went, oh. And that's not even cheering. That's just human reaction. Everybody else in the press box did the same thing. And I'm trying to figure out what like after the game because you know you write your game story after the game you interview players write the game story and i'm i'm talking to different people
Starting point is 00:37:27 trying to figure because like south carolina had a last second drive to win that was really interesting like dylan thompson came in and and won them the game but i'm like you know what nobody's going to talk about anything but that hit so i end up writing my whole column on the hit talk to to everybody involved except i don't think they made vincent smith available but like the Michigan offensive lineman, Clownie, the other South Carolina defensive linemen, it was just wild. Was that the single most menacing hit you can remember watching in real life?
Starting point is 00:38:02 Yes. Yes. It's the one where you just are praying the person's okay. But it wasn't just the hit. It's the way Clowny then scoops the fumble, I believe with his non-dominant hand, one-handed, and picked it. And I think if it was the NFL, that he could have gotten up and run with it. And he probably would have scored a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Yeah. Man. One more, Andy. Okay. The eight lateral Miami went over Duke in 2015. Yes. Oh, my, that was one of those. I covered a game and stopped at a Buffalo Wild Wing so I could watch.
Starting point is 00:38:45 all the night games at once and I remember just sitting in there like trying to count the last yeah it was eight just rewatching play while you were recounting your clowny stuff and that was that was pretty remarkable too and then of course you have um the the buzzer beater ending last year um in the it was Miami game Miami got bailed out against oh Virginia Tech Virginia Tech right uh and and producer River recommends another Mario Crystal era Miami game when he didn't kneel it out against Georgia Tech. Yeah, that would be an interesting one to have. I don't know if anybody
Starting point is 00:39:21 wants to talk about that. It's probably too fresh. We need to wait like five years on that one. Yeah, yeah. But has Mario ever even discussed what happened there? Yeah, he did. He took all, he took the plane for it. Yeah. So it's, I mean, what are you supposed to say at that
Starting point is 00:39:37 point? But yeah, there's so many. I can't wait to see what everybody's suggestions are because The most ironic part about that play It wasn't even a fumble. Right. Right. There's that, too.
Starting point is 00:39:50 It was down. There was another play. In the NFL, when Herm Edwards, when he played for the Eagles, scooped up the fumble to win that game, like, that should. That's the one that brought taking a knee into the NFL. Because I guess before you weren't manly, if you took a knee, you just kept running plays. So, like, the, but yeah, I just remember yelling at my TV. because I was home watching that Miami-Dorgettec game. You should write a column about how if you take a knee or soft.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Oh, yeah, yeah, this is a, I just, like, channel my grandfather. Yeah. If you don't smoke cigarettes and take knees, then run plays when you won the game. Here's the man. I mean, America was at its peak when people were smoking darts on the sideline at halftime, right? Like, I don't know. Where in a street smoking a cigarette and not taking knee? That was football.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Yeah, man. Just everyone, America's just so soft. When men were men. That's right. All right. We have some very interesting numbers that we need to go over. So our friends at Bed MGM sent us quite a few betting insights that they have gathered here of the last few weeks. We've got win total.
Starting point is 00:41:15 movement changes from when they opened earlier this summer to now. We have a bunch going up and only a few going down. We've also got the most bet overs and unders. I love that Colorado both over and under. We'll start here. We'll start here. Colorado's has not moved. Colorado's has been at five and a half, but it is the most bet over and the most bet under, which is the Dion effect. The public has an opinion on Dion and this is just I like Dion it's like you're voting for or against Dion basically yeah if you have any question about how impactful Dion Sanders has been to the sport just look at how often people bet on Colorado um you know people just love betting on Colorado and like I this is a difficult bet like for it to be the most bet thing like are you
Starting point is 00:42:12 of either of those things? No, five and a half is right about where that number should be not knowing, with us not knowing, you know, what their quarterback situation is going to be necessarily. Like, I don't, because I don't think they're going to fall off the table, but I don't think they'll be as good as they were when they had Travis Hunter and Shador Sanders.
Starting point is 00:42:32 I know, but six and six seems like a pretty safe bet to me. I would take the over on that. Is it? I don't know. Is it not? The Big 12 is so evenly matched. That's what makes it great.
Starting point is 00:42:46 They don't have any games that are 100% going to lose. But they also won't 100% win them. I mean, Georgia Tech's a pretty tough opener. They get at home. Delaware. Wyoming, those are their other non-conference. Yeah, there is, there's what, how many games on the schedule can you say are absolute wins? Delaware and Delaware.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Yeah, you almost said Wyoming. I wouldn't say that. Okay. I won't say Wyoming. Would you say Arizona? Probably, yeah. Okay. But I wouldn't say that for Houston, BYU, TCU, Iowa State, Utah, West Virginia, Arizona State, or K-State. But I would not consider those absolute losses for Colorado. I don't know how to say this without coming across as insensitive, but I'm just going to say it and I just trust that I'm not being insensitive. How much of the discombobul. offseason as Dion Sanders has gone through his health stuff scares you in terms of how on the same page they're going to be, not at all or a little? Not really, because I do think if you look at the way that staff handled last year, I thought they were pretty good.
Starting point is 00:43:56 It seems like they're a pretty good staff. I don't, I'm not that worried about that. I was going to say, hasn't Dion Sanders at least garnered some respect from the general public that he actually knows how to assemble a team that's pretty well coached? Yeah, I think so. I understand the over, under bets in his first year where it's like, oh, this is just a clown show. We have a mega's personality who just has no real coaching experience at this level. There's only qualification for being Colorado's head coach as being famous.
Starting point is 00:44:26 And like now I think he's put enough on tape on the field to know that like he's going to play functional discipline football. Like so like the under is just like, oh, they suck. It's like I don't know that I would feel like it could hit. But the under, I'm not thinking like five and seven is not. sucking necessarily in the big 12. Like, in the big 12, five and seven is a couple of bounces didn't go your way.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Yeah. I think that people hit the under hard the first year because they thought that they was just going to be a scam. And if you're hitting... They also had to play Oregon and Utah and, you know, Utah was a favorite to win or to compete for the league title.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Like they had a very tough schedule. and they were coming off a 1-11 season. I just don't know what do you look at and say, what is the reason Colorado will lose eight games or seven games? The reason is they play a bunch of coin flip games and they get unlucky. But I think coin flip games are good for overs. I think they go either way. That's the whole point.
Starting point is 00:45:32 But with a regular schedule, would you rather have a schedule with three automatic wins and three automatic losses or coin flips? coin flips obviously so you know I don't know but I don't know that I feel strongly about either of those two you know things and be honest people are pretty high on Georgia Tech
Starting point is 00:45:52 this year and that they're going to be a pretty tough out and like Colorado is only catching three at home yeah start the season off that's not like they're like a 10 point dog yeah so I think this is a tough one which is why I wouldn't touch it
Starting point is 00:46:10 Which is why it's funny to me that it is the number one bet because I wouldn't touch this with 10 foot pull. I don't know what's going to happen with them. The number two over and the number two under are fascinating to me. LSU is the number two bet over, over 8.5 wins. Michigan is the number two bet under, under 8.5 wins. If I looked at the two schedules, I would probably favor the idea of Michigan going over. But also, if LSU is as good as like J.D. Pakell is predicting, this is an easy over. Yeah, Michigan and LSU both have really tough non-conference games.
Starting point is 00:46:51 So there isn't like a schedule balance here. Obviously, it's SEC Big Ten, but Michigan plays Ohio State. And I believe they play Oregon, don't they? They don't play Oregon. They play USC. Sorry, that was the Lentocke's game. But actually, Michigan's got a pretty favorable draw on the Big Ten. Because they don't have to play Penn State.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Which is why I'd say if we were just looking at schedules, I would go Michigan over rather than Michigan under. Yeah, but also, too, I think that I am at a absolute intersection of like what Michigan football is. They won the national title two years ago. Do you think they're still that? Or are they 2015 Michigan? Really good, but not great. But here's the thing, Ari.
Starting point is 00:47:38 If they are that, they're still over. yeah what did we say a few weeks ago if a disappointing season still hits the over bet the over I don't think eight and four do you think eight and four would be disappointing
Starting point is 00:47:56 do you think they would be terribly disappointed to them really terribly disappointing to them yeah yeah like I think that Michigan turned the corner to elite but I think we all have taken for granted that Michigan is elite now like that that's a fact and I don't know if that's a fact
Starting point is 00:48:10 I think the last, I think the Ohio State win, and I think what they did against Alabama in a game where Alabama had most of their players and was certainly trying, I think that said to me, the culture is still intact in Michigan. You need to figure out how to throw the ball, which they certainly have taken steps toward that.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Three away games against Oklahoma and Nebraska and SC in their first six games. Those are all pretty tough games on the road. Well, I still, think Michigan over eight and a half is a safer bet than LSU over eight and a half. On Michigan's under over under eight and a half. I think that LSU is the better bet of the over. I would feel more comfortable taking that. LSU schedule is what gives me pause. I think Michigan schedule is considerably easier. Yeah. They don't play Georgia. They're both at OU. They're at LSU's at Clemson to start the season. Florida game is a must win for both teams
Starting point is 00:49:13 So it's a you know It's going to be the intensity is going to be crazy We both agree Atal Miss is going to be harder than people think They have four automatic Carolina coming for revenge Texas A&M beat them last year Alabama crushed them last year
Starting point is 00:49:29 Yeah Four automatic wins And I think they have to They'd have to get five other ones So you have to win five more, so you have to go five and three against Clemson, Florida, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Texas A&M, Alabama, Oklahoma. And Vanderbilt. And Vanderbilt. I didn't give them that as a guaranteed win.
Starting point is 00:49:54 And that's fair. That's fair. I don't want to discount Diego Pavia. Yeah, Diego Pavia's aura is so strong that it's irresponsible as a human being to make them a Passover game. Yeah, if you haven't watched episode three of the SEC. documentary on Netflix. Like, I very much, even though I said Diego Pavia has the most aura of any QB in the SEC, I still underestimated it. Because you get the full picture of it when you see them practicing before Alabama and then beating Alabama. You also have been very
Starting point is 00:50:31 humble about how much you've appeared in this documentary. I mean, I just talked and they picked what they picked. The whole thing. Well, I appreciate Seth Emerson, our friend from The Athletic, who he said I am the David Attenborough of college football, which I will tell like, because David Attenborough is 99 and he's still voicing nature documentaries. So like if you have 4K footage of some bird of prey swooping in and devouring a fuzzy little woodland creature, like you call David Attenborough. And he is a red-tailed hawk patrols the skies of a northern Colorado. It's a terrible accent. I'm sorry. Did he write his own copy, you think?
Starting point is 00:51:10 I don't think he does. And that's, I want to get to the level where I don't even have to write my own copy. I just show up and read it. Yeah. That would be amazing. The, uh, it is kind of crazy to know that like if you, if my life depended on it and you ask me who David Attenborough or whatever his name was like five minutes ago, who that was, that like I would have zero idea who that is. But then the second. But if you heard his voice, you be like, I know that's the guy who does all the nature documenters. But now, but like he is so iconic in his role as the nature guy that all you have to do.
Starting point is 00:51:37 was like watch one minute of any clip of any nature documentary ever made and it's like it's that guy and like now I know who that guy is yeah so if if casting directors if you would like me to be that person for college football I am open to it so you you just let me know you could do that I think you could do that it was it was a lot of fun reliving the season and I think this season is going to be crazier than than last season so I'm excited about that all right But while we're on the subject to these, I do want to look at the number three most bet over and number three most bet under because also, okay, so Ohio State is the number three most bet over at 10 and a half. 11 and 1 Ohio State is with them opening with Texas, this is a tricky bet. They lost two games in the regular season last year and they won the national title.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Yeah, this is tricky. And they didn't play Texas last year. Yeah. Yeah, this is a very tricky. one, because obviously they can make the playoff at 10 and 2. Do you think they will lose two of the three to
Starting point is 00:52:45 Texas, Penn State, and Michigan? That's the bet. Replacing as much as they do on defense and having a new starting quarterback, like, it's not outside the realm of possibility. This is- Ohio State does not lose to teams they should not lose too often. I think the last time they
Starting point is 00:53:01 did was at Purdue. Well, I guess last year, if you count Michigan, but that's the realm of own. I don't count Michigan. Yeah, that's a different game. But they certainly, I'm not saying they shouldn't have law. They should have, that's not true. Do you have to go back to the Urban Meyer era? But you have to go
Starting point is 00:53:17 back to Purdue or Iowa. I don't remember which one happened first. It was Purdue happened first, right? And then Iowa was second. Well, no, there were two Iowa losses, I think. No, there was one Iowa loss. Okay, then no, the Purdue one was second. The Iowa one was first. Yeah. So,
Starting point is 00:53:33 whichever one of them was second, that was the last time they lost a game that they shouldn't have to a big 10 team like that. And I don't know. They didn't play Washington back then. You know, like there were other teams. Washington's tricky. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:47 And that's early in the season? I don't know. The state's going to go one and two in those games. So I like the over. When you go back and you tell me that last year's team, and obviously I watched it, I know this happened, but like now that my mind is processing, that last year's team went 10 and two in the regular season.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Mm-hmm. And now I look at the schedule and I'm like, okay, this is not a safe bet. This doesn't feel like... I'm just trying to think about how it would have to play out. If they started off 0-2 against Texas and Penn State and then lost to Michigan, that would be an absolute disaster of a season for them. But the thing is, that 0-2 loses your bet already. Oh, you're right.
Starting point is 00:54:31 They can still make the playoff. You're right. But you've lost your bet. You're right. Yeah, they have to go two and one on those games. Under seven and a half, North Carolina, this is one I gave out when these lines opened. It's an easy schedule.
Starting point is 00:54:50 But clearly gamblers do not think Bill Belichick is just going to decided schematic advantage his way to a bunch of wins. That's a brutally easy schedule. Yeah. The Clemson game is very difficult. Obviously, you've got rivalries with Duke and NC State at the end. of the year but they're playing a thing is road game at charlotte i i i don't know if that might have been like a two-for-one situation yeah or no is that in uh is that in the panther stadium
Starting point is 00:55:21 hold on one second we got we got to i'm looking that up i'm not worried about charlotte beating them by the way i just typed in charlotte north carolina into google thinking that would bring up the football game it brings it the city yeah i i i i i i i i i i i would not worry about Charlotte being UCF beating them is one that I'm curious because like the expectations are not high for UCF in the big 12 no it's that Charlotte okay real road game yeah yeah now obviously a very important recruiting territory for for North Carolina so yeah that would be a bad look I'm not putting any evil out there I was just I was no it's listen so the question is can they go eight and four in
Starting point is 00:56:07 And I find it interesting that gamblers, and I don't know if this is the most bet. So we're talking about the public probably versus sharps. So I don't know that you want to, you necessarily take anything away from this. I just find it interesting. I mean, usually when you see the most bet, the thing that you should do is do the other thing. Fade it. But, yeah, I also, too, love that the most bet things are often tied to, like, polarizing figures. Ohio State's polarizing in their own right
Starting point is 00:56:39 But Dion Sanders, Bill Belichick And Bryce Underwood in Michigan Like I mean, I feel like all these teams And Kelly's also polarizing Yeah Yeah I mean everything on this list here is like What do fans talk about? You know, if you saw like the most bet thing
Starting point is 00:56:54 Was just like a random like Virginia Tech over under Like that would be like why But like this is kind of on brand River can we see the the lines that moved up So Alabama jumped from eight and a half to nine and a half, Miami, eight and a half to nine and a half. Iowa, Mark Grinowski, six and a half to seven and a half, Florida six and a half to seven and a half. Oklahoma six and a half to seven and a half. Okay, the Florida and Oklahoma ones in particular, I find this very interesting.
Starting point is 00:57:24 And we said this looks low when these came out. But then you realize how bad those schedules are, it's still possible that those those teams go seven and five and you lose your bet those are pretty big movements like when you see a game improvement um that's significant i mean the difference between seven and five and six and five and eight and five and nine and five for bama and miami i mean these are pretty important movements um and i feel like you know if you bet florida and oklahoma over you'll probably go one and one i don't know if they'll both do it this year um they don't play each other right but they do don't florida miami play each other i find that interesting i i if you if you bet miami over nine and a half i don't think you bet florida over seven and a half yeah i uh i i like one of those teams to break out one of those teams to fall on their face i just don't know which one it's going to be that's the trickiest part it it really is because the schedules are brutal you know we talk about the dj lagway health factor with florida we talk about what is oklahoma's offensive line look like because i think that that that really
Starting point is 00:58:27 will tell us like we're not worried about flor's offensive line we're still worried about Oklahoma's, but if DJ Lagway's hurt, that's a different scenario. It's going to be a strange, strange season. By the way, the NICO effect. So UCLA goes from four and a half to five and a half. That's electric. Meanwhile, River, Tennessee drops from nine and a half to eight and a half, which eight and a half still may be too high here. Yeah, nine and a half, depending on when this movement happened.
Starting point is 00:58:58 People must have been hammering nine and a half under. Oh, yeah. I mean, since, I mean, if Tennessee were to go, I mean, they weren't going 10 and 2, right? Like, can we just be honest about it? They're not going to go 10 and 2, right? I mean, there was that thought that they'd go back to the playoff. The schedule is pretty manageable.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Tennessee as SEC schedules go, it's not the worst. It's not easy, but it's not the worst. Yeah. Oklahoma has the worst. I think so, too. I think the way Oklahoma lays out makes it the worst. I think Florida's is really bad, too. I think Mississippi States is pretty terrible,
Starting point is 00:59:39 and they aren't necessarily equipped to deal with it. You know what I saw, speaking of Tennessee's schedule, and we didn't map out when to talk about this, but I saw clips of Jonte Cook at Kuse. You remember him? But apparently he's getting back on track there, and they showed some clips. Yeah, he's had, he's had his issues, so he's gotten in trouble a few times off the field,
Starting point is 01:00:02 but like on the field, he was a borderline fringe, whatever, same word, a five-star prospect, and, like, he's on Syracuse. So, like, it's, you know, I don't know if there's a breakout game there, but like, you know, Syracuse has the toughest schedule that's not in the SEC. I wonder if, like, you know, our boy, Coach Brown up there has a, uh, Listen, if Fran Brown, I'll say this right now, Fran Brown goes seven and five against this schedule. Somebody's going to hire Fran Brown away.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Yeah. Because he had a great year to start out last year. He goes seven and five against this nightmare of a schedule. Somebody's going to, somebody's going to stay. Two touchdowns in the opener? Yeah. It just seems like a lot of points. It does seem like a lot of points.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I just, this is one where I, I would really be encouraged to, because 14 and a half, Tennessee is favored against Syracuse in Atlanta on that Saturday, August 30th. I would probably pick Syracuse to cover and not win here. Yeah. Is there any been any news? Not that I've seen him. Bukh is in practice.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Do you have play? We'll see. He's practicing, though. Full practice of Smith yesterday. Yeah. Okay. Well, if he plays, I mean, 14 and a half, I'm just like, can you imagine it's like, that and feeling good about it you know they could win 56 to 10 for all I know but that's a lot of
Starting point is 01:01:31 points dude is a lot of points yeah I just want to don't really know at least acknowledge that John take cook is alive and well in Syracuse and like has a chance to actually do something right and and Syracuse which thought it had Trevor Payne coming back and then lost him at the end of the spring to Penn State like they needed they needed some help there so this is every time we get these and we dig into these schedules I get more pumped for what's coming, Ari. We're not far now. We are not far.
Starting point is 01:02:03 No, we're close, I would say. There's a football game in two weeks, isn't there? Two and a half, yeah, yeah. So, Farmergaden. Actually, another week zero game that we haven't talked about at all that I think is really interesting. Well, at least I hope it's interesting. Fresno State, Kansas.
Starting point is 01:02:27 that's after Farmergaden. Fresno State at Kansas, we get to see Jalen Daniels. I think that one could be a fun game. If we are as far away from Kansas taking the country by storm as people might feel, Kansas two years ago was really exciting, but second of the half of the year, Kansas last year, like when things are working for them, it's working for them.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Right. You know, there's always got to be a big 12 sweetheart that comes out of nowhere, right? that's right and this could be yours this year again i don't know yeah daniel highshaw by the way i love watching him play he's he's the running back who just obliterate he's 510 220 he's like he's a cannon ball essentially he just obliterates people and and i don't just mean when carrying the ball i mean when he's blocking as well so just keep to jot it down in the back of your mind week zero, there's more to watch after the game in Ireland ends, that you're going to watch K State and Iowa State. But the other side of the Sunflower State Showdown, Kansas will be
Starting point is 01:03:38 playing as well. So just keep that in your back of your mind. Another team to watch this year before we go, the New Mexico Lobos. So Jason Eck is a guy that I've been following for a long time throughout his career. He's a former Wisconsin offensive lineman. He has done great work throughout his career as an offensive line coach as a coordinator. He was Idaho's head coach last year. He is New Mexico's new coach. He also apparently is a very gifted actor. So most of you, I'm sure, or at least aware of the office episode, Scott's Tots, I want you to watch the sheer Riz from Jason Eck and his A.D. Fernando Lovo in this video. Hey, Coach, what's going on?
Starting point is 01:04:35 Hey, I just ran into the biggest Lobo fan I ever met. She's a teacher and wanted to know if we could do something special for her class just because they love Lobo football that much. Well, that's great, coach. Yeah, let me think about it for a minute. Actually, you know what? Tell the that they come to a year. UNM football game for free.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Fern, you broke up on me. I couldn't hear you. Can you repeat that? Hello? Coach, you there? Yeah. If you can hear me, just tell them that they can come to UNM for free. Are you sure? Are you sure about that? Yeah, absolutely. I think it's a great way for us to show our appreciation. Okay. If you say so, thanks, boss. Hey, Fern. Hey, coach, what's going on?
Starting point is 01:05:18 I just had to tell you, man. I think it's so awesome that you're going to give free tuition to all those kids. I mean, the press is eating it up. You're going to be a hero in this town. Wait, what, coach? Excuse me? That's not what we agree to? I told the teacher, just like you said, that all those kids are going to get free tuition to
Starting point is 01:05:34 UNM to come to UNM. That's what I told them. Coach, I said free tickets to a game, not free tuition. I've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down, that was the most generous. We've got to get this fixed. Boys and girls of Lou Wallace, we are so incredibly excited to introduce coach Jason Eck. No, Jack, Go Jet, Coach, Coach, Coach. Thank you guys, thank you guys. This is a day that I never forget. Who here has ever felt misunderstood? What does that word mean? Well,
Starting point is 01:06:29 you see guys, in my conversations with our athletic director Fernando Lovo, I misunderstood him. And unfortunately, I have to let you know today that we are not going to be able to pay for anybody's tuition. Yes? What's it tuition? Any other questions? Yes? Coach, I just really want to go to a lobel football game with my brother. You know what? I think that's something we can do. What?
Starting point is 01:06:59 Tell all your friends, all kids, 12 and under, go free to lobo football games this fall. We'll see you there. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Am I a hero? I really can't say. But yes. Yes, Jason Eck. That is spectacular.
Starting point is 01:07:29 I texted Coachek and his AD Fernando Lovo after this and said, congratulations on becoming the greatest comedy team in college sports. Fernando Lovo said that his only regret is that he now has to write into Jason X contract, that he gets a bonus if he wins an Emmy. So, but the guy can coach some football too. So just keep your eyes on Albuquerque. Just a little hint for the coming season. Another hint, come back tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:07:57 We've got a fresh episode. We'll celebrate Thursday, as we always do. We'll talk to you then.

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