Andy & Ari On3 - The transfers who could change EVERYTHING for their new teams

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

The boys are back from vacation, and they’re talking about some players who could help redefine their new teams’ trajectories.(0:00-6:30) Recapping Vacation Week(6:31-9:32) Elite 11 Top Regional Performances(9:33-32:47) Transfers who change everything: Mark Gronowski at Iowa(32:48-42:59) Dane Key at Nebraska(43:00-48:49) Impact of Vince Marrow going to Louisville(48:50-50:31) Ed Orgeron on his run(50:32-55:24) Is Ari the problem?(55:25-1:07:59) The mystery at Ari's house(1:08:00-1:10:36) Conclusion: Jeff's EmailNew Iowa quarterback Mark Gronowski was a star at South Dakota State, and he might bring the one thing the Hawkeyes have been missing — competent QB play — to Iowa City. We’ve talked a lot about John Mateer at Oklahoma, but he could make a massive difference in the Sooners’ fortunes. Meanwhile, new Nebraska receiver Dane Key came from Kentucky and might help Dylan Raiola take the next big step. Plus, the guys discuss a bar fight at the College World Series and a mystery at Ari’s house. Watch us LIVE on YouTube, M-F, at 9:30 am et! https://youtube.com/live/MQlDEqrIypI Hosts: Andy Staples, Ari WassermanProducer: River Bailey Want to partner with the show? E-mail [e-mail]

Welcome to Andy and Ari on three. We're back from vacation. We are live. That means come heck listen to that later in the show. We have a mystery for everyone in the chat helps all courtesy of one Ari Wasserman. How we doing Ari? Good man.

Missed you. It's been a while. No, we had shows. I wasn't on all of them. My parents were worried I got fired, But you know, we're back. Like are you okay? Yeah, no, I'm good. When we try, yeah, when we when we do five shows pre-recorded to to fill a week that also happens on a week where we do five live shows, scheduling doesn't always work out for both of us. So that's uh, we did have have to figure that out. But I'm glad everybody seemed to enjoy the deep dives

into the teams. We are going to do another deep dive week, the week of 4th of July. So if there's a team that we didn't hit last week that you would love to see us hit, we will do that. Yeah, I actually think it's like that time. I don't know when you look at the calendar in the off season, but like buddy, we're like what a month away from media days.

Like we have to start talking about teams and football and you know, familiarize. It's not a month. We're three weeks away from Big 12 media days. It's three weeks. Three weeks. Like, I mean, I'm enjoying summer, but I'm ready to so like I always have this like weird conflict of like, well, you know, I got to go to the

pool on Sunday all day. That was fun for Father's Day, you know, but at the same time too, it's like. Can I just ask you something as it pertains to Father's Day by all means the NHL and the NBA both have finals right now they screwed up. They did no game last night. Like what are we doing? Like I mean, I'm like, the NBA. By all means the NHL

get that one. But yeah, the NBA does the sometimes it's two days between games and sometimes it's three days between games. And in this particular case is going to be three days. So we get the NBA game tonight, but we didn't get it on Father's Day. We did get an incredible US Open finish. And I say this as someone who barely ever watches golf. I was transfixed yesterday. The drama of that finish was incredible. You know, my problem with golf is that I always bet on the wrong people. And by the time it's the final round. It's like my guys have been cut or like five, seven strokes behind. Um but I do love golf. I don't know if I'm getting to the point in my life where I like I feel like I

want to take lessons but like I really enjoy watching it on TV at least the big tournaments. There's nothing like the Masters. Everybody likes the Masters but I did watch the US Open and that putt that spawn hit at the end of the day. That was that was sweet. Um three of those on the show. I think that's the biggest thing that I've ever seen. Um I think that that's the biggest thing that I did watch the US Open and that putt that spawned hit at the end of the day.

That was sweet. Three of those on the back nine. I mean, the 64 footer at the end was amazing, but he had three really long putts on the back nine to keep himself in contention, or two to keep himself in contention. I mean, the guy bogeyed five of the first six holes. He had a 40 on the front nine.

It was insane. That was, it was a beautiful, beautiful day. And like you had John Rahm just sitting in the clubhouse at four over, like am I gonna be in a playoff? And then finally, and then finally, you know, it worked out that McIntyre, you know, has the plus, plus two and, or no, he was plus one and goes in at plus one and is sitting there waiting for the playoff and then it doesn't come

because JJ Spahn just was lights out on 17 and 18. I've got a sweet little night mapped out for me tonight though, cause my wife's out of town on business for the night. So we'll have the daughter in bed by seven30 and I'm gonna have a little siesta, maybe order some pizza or do something and watch this NBA game alone. Just so you all know, I am on the Pacers six to one to win the series. So I'm very upset about the way the game went the other night.

They were right there too. If they hang on to that, they're winning the series. There's no question. I also had the Pacers plus six and a half in the game and they did not cover that either, which was absolutely insane. Uh, with these like fouls. They lost by seven, right? Wasn't it one 11 to one or four? I lost by seven because the other team got to shoot technical free throws on multiple possessions with the less than a minute left cause they were fouling

before the inbounds. But that's a, I'm not upset about it at all, but I am excited to talk about what we're gonna talk about today and it does really start to feel like football season is around the corner. You're coming out here I'm going out to Vegas with you for Big Ten. It's gonna be it's gonna be a good time and yeah let's get into the show. I missed you. I hope you had a good Father's Day. What'd you do? Well we'll talk about the experiences of the past week on tomorrow's show because I want to get into it because it's really interesting and it actually is part of our normal show

subject matter. But I spent Father's Day in Durham, North Carolina at the Duke Academic Mega Camp with my son and it was a lot of fun. Many ideas, shout out. They put on a first class camp and it was awesome. But we went to Tulane for one of their regular camps the previous Sunday and then we were at the Duke camp on this past Sunday.

So it was a lot of fun, but we'll talk later in the week about what it's like to be a dad at these camps. Yeah, I'm curious. How that works because it's it's not like it was when I played. Of course we knew that because we cover this stuff but it's it's such a strange experience like there's actually quite a bit of pressure in some of these situations and I'm glad because it's helped my kid because he's come out of it a lot more

confident. He was terrified going in and he's come out a lot more confident. But we'll talk about that because it's a little more how the sausage is made in recruiting because this time of year, if you click on on three, all the four stars and the five stars from the class of 26 and a lot of the guys from the class of 27 are committing these next few weeks. Like there are a lot of commitments this past weekend. There will be a lot more commitments this coming weekend.

And those guys have, you know, multiple offers. They're just choosing. But in the camp circuit, you see who's, who's just fighting for something. Who's fighting for an offer, fighting for just the slightest shred of attention from a coach. It's pretty fun. Speaking of that, Ari, before we get into the topic of the day, which is the transfers who could change everything for their new teams, it is Elite 11 week as well. We put out, Charles Power from, from on 3, put out his top new performances from the Elite 11 week as well. We put out Charles Power from from on three, put out his top performances from the Elite 11 regionals. Number one, a guy you have have met up with and interviewed.

Mm hmm. Well, the Texas commit son of Raja Bell, former NBA player. The Elite 11. I know I blew it this year. I want to go next year. It's one of the best events of the year. And like. It's maybe one of the last times before

the combine where all these guys will be playing on the same field at the same time, you know, and I don't think people realize that they look at these guys like their high school kids and they are. But the time span that it takes to go from this field to the combine is so short and like 80% of these will probably be there. Because the Elite 11 does a really good job of scouting and deciding who gets invites. Obviously it's a long extensive camp circuit to qualify for it.

If you make it to the finals, like you're legit. So if you are one of the teams here that, know has commitments Miami, Texas, Tennessee, Washington, Arizona State, Houston and Clemson with with the top 11 here with commitments You should feel pretty good about that Arizona State's on there again to love love to see it You really get a good perspective they've got old Elite 11 participants sometimes pro players sometimes college players out there working out with players and so you can kind of see like what it looks like. I remember a few years ago, Caleb Williams was out there slinging it around with the high schoolers and you could see like how much better you get from senior year and it's a junior year of college.

But I love it. I love this stuff and the elite 11 is going to always kind of pave the way for the future stars of the sport and Texas has got a good one in the bell and that's sort of the rest of the. The phase on Brandon is one that the Tennessee folks are very, very excited about and look their quarterback situation being what it is. They've got two young guys. They got Joey Aguilar.

So it is going to be a fascinating event is a real, real spectacle when you have a player who's like up and away number one who hasn't committed yet or has recently committed. I remember it's not so long ago because Arch Manning didn't do this, but I know that Dylan Raiola when he was there, it was a big deal. And when Quinn yours was the number one overall player, like going out and seeing that person usually is like a reason to get on an airplane. And it's always so pretty there too. Like it's at some high school, like in Newport Manhattan Beach, and it gets chilly at night

and they're just out there spinning it. It's a fun time. Well, cannot wait to see the results. We got Manning Passing Academy coming up next week also. So it's, it's going to be fast and furious for the quarterbacks here these next couple of weeks. Speaking of quarterbacks, let us talk about our topic du jour, the transfers who could change everything for their new teams. And the idea for this came from a story that our guy Pete Nacos wrote at On3 last week. He was doing this, so he talked to Tim Lester, who's the Iowa offense coordinator. And they were talking about Mark Grunowski.

And for those who don't know, Mark Grunowski was South Dakota state's quarterback, very, very good in 2023. Thought he was going to go into the portal after 2023. He didn't, he stayed with the Jack rabbits and decided to go into the portal. Last year or this past off season. So he winds up going to Iowa. This is the guy, he won the Walter Payton award in 2023, which is basically the FCS Heisman.

And Tim Lester said this to our guy, Pete Nakos, about Mark Grunowski. You don't necessarily get to pick the exact guy you want in the transfer portal. You take the guys who are on there. When you're recruiting country, there are 10,000 to choose from. In the portal, there are like seven guys who have experience in play at this level. We got one of the seven.

So I think when he's talking about seven guys in the portal with very you know, very extensive experience that you feel comfortable plugging right in. You're talking about like Darian Mensah who went from Tulane to Duke. You're talking about Nico Yamaliyava who went from Tennessee to UCLA. You know, you're talking about those guys who have fairly extensive experience. You're comfortable dropping them in right away. But Ari, I am fascinated by Grunowski because Iowa has not had competent quarterback places CJ Beather, yet the Hawkeyes keep winning at a pretty good clip. What happens if they have a

competent quarterback? What if I go one better, Andy? What happens if they've got a like, really good electric quarterback? Like, what? What? It's a good question. They have a truck for a quarterback and not a trailer. Yeah. The problem with Iowa is that their their trailers weren't hitched to anything in the past. Um so if you have a guy who can move the ball down the field, the thing with Iowa too a lot of times isn't about scoring 40 points a game. It's having an offense that can get

five first downs and a lot of times even if they you go from the twenty to the opposing forty and get three or four first downs and are able to alter the field position like that is almost as good for Iowa as other teams. Scoring right like if you if you're able to move the ball that way they haven't been able to move the football like it last year. They were a little bit better right like they weren't terrible. We had the whole bit about Iowa overs a year ago, but if you actually combine a solid to great

defense with elite level special teams and a person who can score the football like I don't know if it was you or somebody else, but somebody you know had Iowa, you know, as a pretty important sleeper team in the playoff race this year. I've mentioned it a couple times that throw up their schedule again River that that they can do this. They can do this. They've got Iowa State in the non-conference. That's their toughest non-conference game. But Indiana is their second big 10 game. That's gonna be a critical one because Indiana is gonna be good. Like they're not gonna drop off that much. So Indiana has to play Iowa and Illinois

in pretty rapid succession. So we'll find out a lot there, but they've got Indiana, they've got Penn State, they've got Oregon. It's not the easiest schedule in the world, but if Iowa has a capable quarterback, there's no automatic loss on the schedule. They can beat everybody on the schedule, including Oregon. Yeah, I mean, Iowa, if they are able to.

The thing that is interesting to me is if you have a quarterback out there that can move the football in big chunk place, because like, if you go like watch his highlights, which I did before the show, um, I've seen him a few times, like he's a very quick guy too, like he runs the ball a lot, like a lot of his highlights are him with the football in his hands. Um, and I think that when you look back traditionally at Iowa's best quarterbacks like Brad Banks and guys like that like it was people who were multifaceted and it felt like they got comfortable being in a one-dimensional situation where they wanted to run the ball well and you know like Caleb

Johnson was a really really good running back like I don't think people appreciated how good he was and I think think that we're going to find out in the league, you know, what they had. But if you have a guy that can make your offense multi-dimensional, can Iowa continue to play Iowa football or does Iowa football change with that? Like that's always the most interesting thing to me. Yeah.

And I think that's been one of the issues that Kirk Farrance has had with kind of turning it loose. And probably a lot of it was Brian Ferenc not being capable of running an offense that could turn it loose. But Lester has been there one year. The offense did improve under Lester, even though they had, you know, quarterback issues and injuries and you name it. Cade McNamara was supposed to be the starter.

He's now at East Tennessee State. Brendan Sullivan came from Northwestern and actually was efficient, but not, not the greatest thrower in the world. And that's why they went out and got Mark Grunowski. So you look at what they can do and you're right. They might, even if they have, let's say Grunowski is awesome. He might not put up the biggest numbers in the world because they still wanna let that defense and that special teams dictate the tempo

and the pace of the game. But it also may allow them if they get into a game with somebody who has the capability of scoring on them, like in Oregon, like a Penn State, that they can stay with them. And that's the thing, there were teams on their schedule that they just were not going to beat. When they're the old offense.

When Iowa was in football games, like in here, Wesley Spruce in the chat says, how many years have we heard about Iowa? And it's like- We haven't, we don't ever talk about them before the season, we're always like, hey, it turns out Iowa is pretty good. We talk about them before the season. We're always like, hey, it turns out I was pretty good. We talk about Iowa during the season because they win nine

games automatically despite being completely dysfunctional on one side of the football. Again, that wasn't true last year. It was two years ago. And the thing that hurts Iowa, and you can ask their fans this, is that even a few years ago when their offense was terrible and they kept winning games,

whenever they played a team that was more talented than it, it could not compete, like you would see all these like 20 to 14, you know, 12, six type wins, and then they would play a Penn State or an Ohio State and they would lose by 50 because if you can't get a first down and you keep giving expensive The you keep giving those explosive offenses much more opportunity to score They just start scoring and then eventually the dam breaks the thing that is interesting to me Is that if their offense is good enough to? Consistently move the ball against Penn State and Oregon and keep the ball out of the opposing offensive hands. The thing that's so crazy about how good their defense was two years ago was that they had to have been exhausted. They didn't even get the opportunity to rest and they were still

dominating people. And like you know if you need a good punt inside the five or you need a explosive play, shout out to Cooper De Jean and special teams like you. You got it from them and I think that that's something that you can count on. You were never able to count on their offense and this is a multifaceted discussion Andy because one it's like how good can I would be if they've got a functional offense, but then also to you know Kirk Ferens.

We had a discussion about as a Heisman level or not Heisman. Sorry Hall of Fame level coach, right? Like you said, right, did he get in? And I believe that the numbers and what he's made, Iowa football in terms of consistency probably merits that. But the thing that has always just been interesting to me and the reason why I think I make people so angry is that I'm always interested in like, what's next?

That's true in my career, it's true in my life. It's true if I have a house, what's the next house? If I have a job, what's the next job? What's the promotion? Like, I've always been fixated on growth and different. Like, Iowa, to me, has always just seemed to be, like, happy being pretty good and, like, never wanted to take the risk or the leap of being great. And I think that, like, that can backfire. I think Wisconsin made that risk, and you can make the case that maybe Wisconsin has taken a step backwards as a result of that risk. Maybe you like being 9-3 and 10-2. Maybe you like competing at this level and you want to stay that consistently. But like what if, and dare to dream, Iowa convinces a quarterback who's really good to come there, he thrives there, then what does Iowa become? A defensive juggernaut with a team that can actually attract the quarterback? Then what? Then maybe they don't lose by 30 when they

play Ohio State. Maybe they don't lose by 30 when they play Michigan in the Big 10 title game. Like I always felt like they were always able to compete at a pretty high level in the Big 10. But like the Big 10 has changed. And the question now is if if the Big 10 has changed, do you have to change with it? Because like Wisconsin's finding out that not being in the big 10 West is a pretty crappy existence. And nobody gets that benefit anymore.

Iowa also had that benefit. Now they have to play Oregon, USC, and Penn State every year. If you throw up their schedule, I don't even remember what it was, but I know they don't have to play Ohio State this year, but don't they have to play Oregon and Penn State? They have Oregon, Penn State, they have USC,

Indiana, which in other years, they have USC, Indiana, which you know in other years you would have been like whatever. And I know people from the SEC are like making fun of their schedule, but like Indiana, Wisconsin, Penn State, Minnesota, Oregon and USC all in a row is not an easy stretch. Like that's a pretty hard. That's a pretty hard thing to deal with, especially because Wisconsin's a rivalry game. And Iowa State's good too. Like Iowa State's going to be very good this season. Yeah, and then they have to close on the road at Nebraska. Like that's not an easy schedule.

And like if they're able to traverse it and win 10 games, I really do think they'll make the playoff. Even if their two losses are to Penn State and Oregon, especially if they have a good enough offense to keep those games competitive. The problem with Iowa is they've never taken a step forward and gotten over the hump of competitiveness against the elite teams. And think about, like, all these first round tight ends

that have come out of Iowa, first round offensive linemen. Like, you should be able to parlay that into effective offenses, and they really didn't. Let me run you... So this is probably the best season an Iowa QB's had in the last 10. So Nate Stanley, I was thinking it would be CJ Beathard, but it's actually Nate Stanley in 2019. So they went they won 10 games in 2019.

Completed 59.4% of his passes for 2,951 yards. He averaged 7.4 yards per attempt with 16 TD passes and seven picks. Those are very average numbers. And what I mean by that, I'm not like, it's still Iowa. So I don't expect the, he had 399 pass attempts. I don't expect the number to be off the charts on pass attempts. I don't expect the yardage number to be off the charts, but if you could have a quarterback average eight yards per attempt, which is not even great, it's just pretty good.

And then throw 20 TDs with five to eight picks. Like, Iowa would win ten games with that happening. Andy, I do this to you a lot. And maybe I'm good at podcasting or maybe I'm bad at it. But I knew I wanted to take this conversation somewhere and I didn't tell you guys about it in the chat because I wanted it to be natural.

OK. So three years ago, I made a point about Wisconsin. It was in the middle of the end of the time when Paul Chris was the coach. And I don't remember if I wrote a column or I tweeted about it, but I made Wisconsin people very upset. And I said, Wisconsin has to do something to modernize their offense or they're going to get left behind in the sport. And people went berserk, right? Because Wisconsin at the time was a pounded, you know, deep. I mean, Wisconsin wasn't the better version of Iowa, right? Like they, they had maybe not as good a defense that Iowa had two

years ago. But they were winning even more consistently. Yeah, for a period of time. And now I was more consistent. But yes, that I agree with you. So people were like, so your suggestion is that they depart what has made them so successful, which is having a first round or an elite level running back. We're talking about Wisconsin again. Yeah. Yeah. You know, this is Wisconsin. Like don't don't be Wisconsin anymore. Try to open it up. Run a spread or run a version of a spread that's run heavy that that modernizes your offense.

Try to get a higher caliber athlete on offense so you don't get blown out. Good news Ari, Luke Fickel read that column. He did. So like this is interesting and the reason why I want to talk about this is do you think that's wrong? Knowing what we know because we didn't know what would happen if they did that. Now we kind of have a few years of context of what they did. Do you think that Wisconsin in the long term, although undeniably going through growing pains right now as a program that's changing, maybe even having somewhat of an identity crisis?

Do you think that Wisconsin will be better off long term having gone through these growing pains in the new construct of college football or do you think that teams like Iowa and Wisconsin are better off maintaining who they are and staying that way steadfastly through the construct of college football? Or do you think that teams like Iowa and Wisconsin are better off maintaining who they are and staying that way steadfastly through the evolution of the sport?

I think you can evolve, but don't let go of what you're good at. And I think Wisconsin kind of let go of what it was good at because what, what was Wisconsin Wisconsin great at recruiting and developing offensive lineman. You can talk about running backs all you want. The running back didn't matter. You could put you back there and you would have gained a thousand yards behind some of those lines. So that's the thing.

And what do I always say about offensive line? It travels, good offensive lines travel. So when you switch to an offense that does not require a dominant offensive line, and that's what most of the the air raid type offenses like the reason they exist is because they were created by coaches who were at teams who are at programs that could not get. The best offensive lineman so they created offenses that could work around that problem. Well guess what i was still awesome at developing offensive lineman. Wisconsin is could still be good at developing offensive lineman. Wisconsin went out and got Jeff Grimes as their

their OC. Jeff Grimes is an offensive line coach by trade. He's coached tight ends as well, but he and he's calling the plays and they're going to be kind of a wide zone team. It'll look more like. the Barry Alvarez, Brett Bielamu, Wisconsin than it has. That doesn't mean you can't evolve though. That doesn't mean you can't have a dynamic quarterback who can run.

And it also doesn't mean you can't get speed on the outside. Well, and that's been Wisconsin, like Wisconsin's problem and Iowa's been Wisconsin, like Wisconsin's problem. And I was problem as well. They've had nobody who can get open in the offense. They have nobody who could stretch the field at all. So in the NIL area, you can get that person just prioritize it. Right.

So the sport has changed a lot since I had that opinion. But I am going to lean back at a time in which my Beat Rider days coincide to this. Now, it might not be apples to apples because Ohio State in 2012 was still an explosively talented team, right? Like, there's no, like like the Ohio State in 12 is much further along in the pantheon of competing at the highest level than Iowa and Wisconsin are now. Right, but that was not a great Ohio State team, even though it went undefeated. No, but I'm just saying like, the players they had, I mean,

they had Terrell Pryor and De'Veer Posey and guys on their side. Right, right, right. But you remember what Ohio State was under Jim Tressel. Ohio State was turbocharged Iowa great defense there's explosive offensive playmakers but you know nothing good happens after midnight punt is the most important play of football like you know Jim Tressel would say punting is the most important play in football and maybe he's right or he was back in the day. important play in football. And maybe he's right or he was back in the day. So when Urban Meyer took over, there was kind of a internal clash from fans who were half. We want a lot of football games being Ohio State and being the most talented version of Iowa possible.

And there was a section of the fans that were tired of getting their ass kicked by the SEC on the national stage who were excited about Urban Meyer's arrival. And it's funny because Luke Fickel had a front row seat to all this. Urban Meyer comes in and they change to a spread. And you know, if you've ever covered a team that changed their offense, how exciting and how scary that is for fans and how fun it is to write about. And Ohio State went to a spread and they had a more explosive offense but they were a very run heavy team. If you go back and you look at how they won the national title in 2014, they had a great offensive line and they ran the ball down the opponent's throats. That's why their quarterback. Yeah,

you can you can play a spread that isn't chucking it 60 times a game. So that's what I so my point for the changes is that like you can be a run heavy spread team that has a great offensive line and pounds the ball. And when I said about the thing about Wisconsin, I didn't mean go run the Texas Tech Air Raid from Mike Leach era. Yeah meant spread it out, do some different things while maintaining your identity as a run first team. Well, that is what they wanted to do

because they hired Phil Longo, who they were looking at like the 2020 North Carolina season where he was the OC and that team ran the ball great. Yeah. But it just, it didn't work out because they didn't like, they didn't have any receivers who scared you. They didn't have a quarterback who scared you.

So you gotta have both of those things. I actually think what Iowa does offensively is potentially coming back around to being an advantage. Because defenses have gotten so small and so light trying to cover spread offenses that put four and five receivers on the field. And you've got to cover all these, put four and five receivers on the field and you've got to cover all these, you know, these fast guys that when you have a

team that can pound you upfront, that sends a 225 pound running back at you 25 times a game, you don't have the beef up the middle to deal with that anymore. Like your, your nose is smaller. Your middle linebacker is smaller. This is where Iowa can actually make some hay here. But you still have to have somebody dynamic to throw the ball and a couple of dynamic guys to catch the ball. One, I'd say one bigger guy who you put on the outside, one smaller guy who you kind of, we talked about with Auburn with Cam Coleman and Eric Singleton jr you have those guys to torture defenses make you play honestly on defense not load the box

so they got to do that but maybe Mark Grunowski changes the math on this let me ask you this so before you change it because i can sense it's changing. Do you think Iowa being Iowa, forget the pronounce for a second, forget the Wisconsin discussion. Iowa being peak Iowa can win nine games a year anymore. The old Iowa, the Iowa from 2002. No, not unless they just get a really easy big 10 schedule draw.

So we agree that you probably have to evolve at some point. Like I think that a lot of times and like, I don't know, I don't want to speak for Iowa fans, but like Iowa fans knew what they were, which is a tough physical team that could beat 85% of the teams in college football but could not compete with the top 5%. Is that a fair assumption assessment? And they

were okay with that. I'm wondering though if they have come to a point now where like the steadfast stay who we are never change Iowa-ness that Kirk Farrantz represents and has been over the course of his long career as the longest tenured coach in college football. If people in Iowa City are like, okay this worked for a long time, we are who we are, that's our identity, but we can no longer be that. Or if they are still connected to and committed to being the Iowa of old. But like I think Wisconsin has had a tougher few years.

I think that Wisconsin going through these growing pains right now probably will service itself better in the long run and I think Iowa might have to do it too. I don't think so. I think getting a better quarterback will be the thing that fixes it. And Iowa may have done that. It's interesting. I think that Wisconsin... Because Wisconsin hasn't had a quarterback that scares you since Russell Wilson transferred there for his final year. Yeah, yeah, I know.

I don't want to practice Scott Tolzine Erasure here, but like... Wisconsin QB's have not been great. I don't want to practice Scott Tolzina racer here, but like. But Wisconsin QB's and not been great. What's the thing when the Amish go out? Rum Springer. Yeah. Is Wisconsin doing that right now? Like Wisconsin's an Amish. No, they're not.

They're going back to it. They had Rum Springer. That was the Phil Longa and they fired him. Rum Springer means that I don't know how to pronounce this word. Rum Springer. You're supposed to go out and experience the world and decide if you want to still longer than they fired up means that I don't know how to pronounce this word. Rum spring up. You're supposed to go out and experience the

world and decide if you want to return to the Amish lifestyle. They're going back and raising barns. They're going to run spring is over. So they went to so Wisconsin went to New York City and it's like, okay, this this is just not for me. I want

to go back to the Amish. Is that what you're saying? I'm done with you English. We're going back. No, but what if they went out to New York City though and they're like, okay, I don't like the drugs and the gambling and the sex and all this crazy stuff, but you know what? The pizza is pretty good. We're gonna bring back the pizza oven. The iPhone's incredible. Yeah or

the iPhone or we're gonna like tweak it a little bit and that's gonna service us better in the future. Hey, we try. You know what would work better? Getting a really good quarterback. No, I know, but that's always part of it. It doesn't matter who you are, having a better quarterback improves, but- And we'll see, Billy Edwards Jr. from Maryland is who they got, so we'll see how they do.

It's like, that's not, the point is a philosophical, everybody wants the best quarterback they can get. That's true for everybody. Just get a better quarterback and use him, and let it, and that's where Grodowski comes in in Iowa. If he's as mobile as we saw him at South Dakota State and he keeps plays alive and he can be kind of a Houdini type. He'll make their offense more dynamic just by doing that. They won't have to call different plays.

They'll already be more dynamic. So we'll see. By the way, if you want a more dynamic viewing experience, you're watching on Twitter right now, come join us on YouTube. The next link down is the YouTube stream. We're cutting off the Twitter stream. So come join us on YouTube. We're going to talk about some other guys who could change everything. Just like Mark Grunowski could change everything for Iowa. And I don't know if he will.

You know, he was hurt in the spring. We didn't get to see much of him, but I am excited to see what this turns out to be. Ari, because I don't know that they have to make huge fundamental changes to the offense as long as they have a more dynamic quarterback because they have such a good defense and special teams that it shouldn't matter. I'm excited. I think that talking about evolution, philosophical shifts and growth and program building is the most fascinating thing that we can do. So like I like really sink my teeth into these conversations because it's just like it's. I just love what should we be? What are we and how do we get there like that?

And whether we should make that change, it's like, I don't know, like, should I get lip injections? I don't know. Will that help me look? As someone whose wife administers those? No. Oh, by the way, absolutely not. I don't know why I said that. I've got the most supple, like pretty lips. You do. Yeah, you don't want to, you don't want to change a thing. You know, you don't want to look like those, those Hollywood stars that all of a sudden you're like, whoa, but I did, I don't know if you noticed this, but I got my old face clippers broke. And I don't know, you're a clean shave guy, right? Like do you use a razor? Yeah, I use a razor.

For people like me who just are using beard trimmers, like you become attached to that thing. And I got a new one, and this new one is kind of like high tech where there's no like clips, you just like change the button and then it like goes up and down based on how and I went too short. I my facial like I don't like I look too close to your perma stubbles.

Not as stumbling. My face looks rounder right now. We need to get some some some beardage going in. I don't know what we're talking about. I've got a great face. I think there you go. Brian says as a Husker fan, I have no respect for Iowa or their fans.

Well, they don't really respect you either, Brian. So the feeling is probably mutual. But to let's talk about Brian's team for a second, because I think they've got a guy. Also, another person. Who Pete Nacos wrote about last week? who could change everything. And that is Dane key, the receiver transfer from Kentucky who is now at Nebraska, who said he, you know, he wanted a change of pace. He wanted to see what he could do with Dylan. Raiola wanted to help Dylan Raiola, you know, build something special there. And we've seen Dane key in flashes.

Look like he could be a star. The question is, was he held back by Kentucky's offense in quarterback play, or was he just not as dynamic as we thought he might be? We're going to find out. We're going to find out because if he's what we think he could be, Nebraska's offense is going to open up considerably. It's going to help Dylan Ryle a lot. Yeah, I mean, Nebraska is a fascinating, uh, a fascinating program this year. Um, and like,

I think it all begins and ends with, uh, Rayola, his continued development. Um, but you know, it helps make a quarterback develop a lot better. Somebody who can't be covered, somebody who gets open, somebody who catches 5050 balls, somebody who kind of what we're talking about with Iowa and Wisconsin. Yeah. And the fact that Nebraska actually, I mean, well, Nebraska has the quarterback. I mean, they went out and did what Iowa and Wisconsin probably will never do. And that is go get the number one quarterback in the country. Now we're still, you know still in the process of figuring out

whether or not he's gonna reach his potential, but that's not the point. The point is that they were able to do it. And I know that there were some family connections or whatever, but that still doesn't matter. They did it. Yes, I'm with you 100% on this. I think that getting a guy that can be explosive

on the outside is maybe, like I'm still still like we have this conversation all the time. What's the most important position in college football? If you could get one player at one position outside of the quarterback position to impact your team? Do you go interior defensive tackle? Do you go rush end? Do you go lock corner? Do you go lock corner? I really am starting to wonder if in today's college football, having a dynamic receiver who can make plays turn nothing into something is the most important thing. And it's not fair to compare any receiver to Jeremiah Smith because Jeremiah Smith's a just a different species. But like if you put Jeremiah Smith on any team, he would instantly make them a contender in the

I mean, the most ironic part about Jeremiah Smith is that he exists on the team that needs him the least. I mean, like the thing that's so interesting is like, you know, and we're not we're too late in the summer to do this grab ass. But like, if you could drop Jeremiah Smith into any other team, like where would he have the biggest impact? I don't know if we're too late in the summer to do that. We, we got a little bit of June left. Yeah, we could do it. I mean, we're getting close to football season. So I mean, we gotta, we gotta lean into it.

Maybe, maybe we can have a grab. Tom says, get yourself the best center in football and run five yards per play. No, Iowa had Tyler Lindner bomb a few years ago. They had the best center in football and their offense still sucked. Yeah. You, no, I think honestly, you know, when NIL started, I called like 20 different personnel people and asked them here,

you've got X number of dollars allocated percentage wise on how you want to do it. Do you want to go all in on two or three guys or do you want to spread it out for value? Do you want to get that end? Who do you go first? Nobody said receiver. I wonder if I redid that now

with the way that the sport is headed, how much receiver would come into play here? And part of the reason why we're so high on some of these teams that people are like, why are you so high on them? Like, how could you possibly think that Auburn is a top 15 team this year? It's like, well, how?

Because Auburn might have a top five receiving core in the entire country. So when you talk about players who can come in and change it all, obviously that this makes sense for Nebraska, because Key is working with a quarterback that is in a very crucial off season who needs to take a step forward to start him. That goes without saying, but. Nebraska is in the dead center of the same conversations that we had about Iowa and Wisconsin, right? They are a Big Ten West team who plays tough defensive

black shirts football, right? Yep. They've got a dynamic quarterback and potentially a receiver who could be a top five receiving target in the entire Big 10. Does that not add up to? Yeah. Thank you. 6-3-2-10. He's capable of beating you down the field. And you've seen that a few times. A couple of years ago when they played at Florida, he had a great catch way down the field. It was like, how did he do that? And that's the guy you want. He averaged 22 yards a catch and four catches

against Auburn last year. And their offense was terrible at Kentucky. So I'm excited to see what that winds up being. He publicly upgraded himself a quarterback, right? I know that I haven't always said the nicest things about Dylan Raola, but he's certainly an upgrade from Zach Calzada, right? Like, I mean, I mean, he didn't play with Zack Calzada. He played with

Rob Van Der Grip. But yeah, he made a huge improvement on who's gonna be throwing him the ball by changing his school. So yeah. So we'll find out this this will be this will be really interesting with Denki. Because I do think it key because i do think it change i do think it changes. Dynamics because i think the brassica anybody like that i have got a quick aside on two different things real quick okay one about nebraska do you think the brassicas further along that i want was constant i think they are. I agree with that i think they're more ready to compete in the new Big Ten or heading that way because Matt Ruhl came in with the expectation. He never coached in the Big Ten West.

I guess his first year he did, but he got the job knowing the Big Ten West was going away. So he has been working toward this whole, you know, holistic Big 10 the whole time. Now, does that mean they're going to be as good as Iowa this year? I don't because the thing about it is Iowa still has Phil Parker. And they still have Levar Woods, like that's the defensive coordinator, special teams coordinator, like they're still going to be elite and they've been elite for years on those in those units. Nebraska might not be there yet on either side of the ball, but I do think they're probably better equipped as long as they keep recruiting well for the future.

But I would produce River points out Iowa, Nebraska, both with win totals seven and a half. Yeah. So we both like the over the Nebraska one. I don't know. Iowa schedule is pretty I kind of like the over the Iowa too, but I don't want to pick too many overs at six week. Iowa stretches is a rough stretch. Andy. Yeah, it's like, yeah, I've heard about it is that like you might look at Penn State schedule and like be able to fly over games like Minnesota and Nebraska.

Oh, you're gonna win those games. What do you fly over Minnesota? I just stop that right now. If you're looking at a team you think can compete for a national championship and you're going through the wins and losses

in the offseason of who they're going to be. They play Minnesota, you know, you're putting it as a W like that's not something that you can do for Iowa. Like those games are tough for them. So, um, the other thing I wanted to say is as an aside, cause while we were on vacation, not a lot of things happened, but one interesting thing happened and

we can't talk about it because we're late to the party, we were gone, but Vince Mero, yes. Oh yeah. Talk about Kentucky. I think we need to mention that. Yeah, I went on KSR last week. I went on Nick Rauch's show, and we were talking about Vince Mero's move to Louisville, which

is a very interesting move. Because you and I have had this discussion about how valuable is the elite recruiter in the era of NIL. Because Vince Mero was a very valuable recruiter, so valuable that even when you had to have those coaches on the field, they kept him on the field, even though he might not have been the best position coach in the world. Now he goes to Louisville where he will

essentially run their recruiting. Vince Mero and Mark Stoops had it figured out for a while. Yeah. If you want to understand how Kentucky went from laughing stock on the SEC to tough out every week for a five-year stretch, they did it because they recognized that their home state from a recruiting territory was Ohio. Yeah, that they were able to sell the SEC to all the castoffs in Ohio that didn't get Ohio State offers and they were able

to beat. The Big 10 teams that should be getting those second-rate players in Ohio who by the way are very good. Like guys like Lynn Bowden Bowden for Bowden for instance, Bowden. Sorry, I don't know. Like he pronounced Bowden, but yeah. Bowden, whatever. It's spelled the same as Bobby Bowden, right?

It is, yes. So excuse me for not getting that right. But like, anyway, Ohio kid, they found him, didn't have an Ohio state offer. He goes down there and is awesome. They did that repeatedly all over the field and they treated Ohio like they were in state. And it was a great plan.

I don't know how much that plan can work now in the transfer portal NIL era, but it was a great plan. And they were, you know, thick as thieves. So, you know, I'm sure that at KSR they've got more insight on how that happened, but I was surprised to see that not only he left, he went to a rival. Well, remember there was a rumor he was going to go to Louisville last year. Yeah. And he didn't. And they paid him more and he stayed. So it will be interesting to see how much that changes because I don't know in the NIL era how much it matters. I come, I keep going in circles

on it because it's like, okay, does that really matter? You can just offer money. And then you think, okay, well, but if everybody's offers are fairly competitive, then having that person who does establish their good relationship with the players that the player wants to come see every day, then that does matter. So we're going to find out. The question is, like, how much does having a recruiting plan matter? Like back in the day, like you would use to rank jobs based on which teams had the most clear and identifiable plans to building. It's like, does that even exist anymore? Like, yeah, I think I think that still matters a lot.

It does right in Kentucky. And I don't know if Louisville can duplicate it. But if I think Rom already knows what he wants, I don't think he wants to necessarily duplicate what Kentucky did. I just think he knows that Vince Merrill can help him get good players. If you go look at like Louisville's recruiting classes, and I think I talked on the phone with Jeff Brown for a half hour a year ago, or a year and a half ago, we talked about this. Like, where all did where were all of Louisville's best players

from traditionally, you know, they came from Florida. Okay, a lot of them came from Florida, like Lars from Florida, right? Teddy Bridgewater from Florida. Yeah, a lot of them came from Florida, like Lamar's from Florida, right? Teddy Bridgewater's from Florida. Yeah, I think a lot of their players came from Florida. That was the Charlie Strong era. They had a lot of good players from Florida. Patrino didn't, other than Lamar, didn't just kill it in Florida. But as somebody who lived and covered recruiting extensively

in the state of Ohio for a decade, like Louisville was not much of a factor in Ohio. And I don't know if that was by choice or if that was, you know, being boxed out. But I'm very curious of Louisville's recruiting strategy of going and getting the three star offensive tackle that Ohio State doesn't have room for because they have a five star kid from Houston and Bringing him in and developing him into a great player is gonna play or if other teams in the big ten like Michigan and Michigan State and Purdue and all those teams that should be recruiting those Ohio players Are doing it as well, or if that's even something that you duplicate in this era like I think that that's all very fascinating stuff

Because Kentucky did it and they did it well. And there was a result. I mean, I wrote a column called the Big Ten Killer. Like Vince Mero used to sit in his office at Kentucky and every time Ohio State would take a five star commitment at a position from Florida or California or Texas, he would fist pump. One less spot on Ohio State's class.

One more point. And just go get that, you know, whatever that guy in Ohio is, yeah. Go get the guy that Jim Trussell would have gotten out of Ohio. that's a little bit of a bump. One less spot on Ohio State's class. One just go get that you know whatever that guy in Ohio is. Yeah. Go get the guy that Jim Trussell would have gotten out of Ohio. That's yeah. I mean that's like that's

the yeah and and it didn't hurt Ohio State who would hurt was Michigan State Wisconsin programs like that that would have way that would have gotten that guy. You know Mark Antonio would have gotten that guy if you know, Mark D'Antonio would have gotten that guy. If you go look at the Michigan State teams, especially the ones from 13, 14 and 15

that were the biggest thorn in Ohio State's side during the times in which that they were competing at a high level, a lot of their best players were Ohio, those three-star linebackers from Cleveland that Ohio State didn't take. Who went to Michigan State, developed for two years and then turned out to be all Big Ten players.

Like those, Ohio is not a sexy state Yeah, we went to Michigan State developed for two years and then turned out to be all big 10 players like those there. Ohio is not a sexy state as it pertains to like how many five star players you might find in Louisiana and Alabama and maybe not Alabama, but like Louisiana and Florida and some of these other places. But they've got a lot of gritty big 10 ish type players on that team that can make a major impact. So anyway, small aside, but really interesting when No, that was, that was good. Like when coaches leave somewhere, it's always interesting. But when they go to a rival, and they've been really, really important to their team, like I thought it was important to touch on that for 5 minutes.

Can, can I give you a rule for life? We haven't done rules for life in a while, but can we throw a new rule for life out there? Sure. Never taunt a shirtless coach-o. That's true. Does that feel like a solid rule for life? Yeah, I mean, if he's not wearing a shirt, that means he's probably there to party. Like, I don't know what's going on, but you know.

River, roll the clip. Sorry to bother you. Here we go, baby. Roll top. know what's going on but you know River roll the clip. Have a good day, man. Okay. Where you from? I'm from Alabama. What part? Oh, that's cool. It's excellent You gotta understand that's not enough Yeah, but look here just respect. Yes, sir. What the fuck? Hey, if you've a balance who you would go to the next table say go time. I think some people would but you would I Love the you wouldn't at the end, which is you've seen the you're not that guy pal video I love the you wouldn't at the end, which is you've seen the you're not that guy pal video Yeah, that's ed oger on telling telling this dude. You're not that guy. Did you see I mean that guy was on skates The second order on turn around. Yeah

It is funny when people like talk crap to somebody in public and then like the person like reacts to it Cuz like oh Yeah, I forgot like we have two different things that do you want to talk about John Matier because like I got into it with somebody in public too. Yes. Yes. Let's do it. You want to talk about me getting into it? Am I the asshole segment? Do you want me to do that real quick? What does that have to do with John Matier? Did someone that's a cost you about John Matier? And then we'll do the MI, the asshole. Well, we don't, we're, we've talked about John Matier a bunch. And if anybody wants to hear more about John Matier,

we had our deep dive with the, the sooner scoop guys last week, check it out. To acknowledge that John Matier is on that list with the. Yes. Yes. We'll, we'll, we'll mention that because like Mark Grunowski and Dan Key, maybe even more so John Matier. And if you want to hear a much deeper dive into that, we talked to the Sooner Scoop guys last week. We had a whole show about introducing the 2025

Oklahoma Sooners, tons of John Matier talking about what he can do. Yes, I don't know if he can change the program. He can be the most impactful. Maybe he can return them back to having elite level quarterback play because that's what Oklahoma was all about for so much. Yeah. Okay. So I'm going to do the 7-11 story first and then we'll do the mystery, the Phantom Panties story, us solve the mystery. So yeah, we have to do the 7-Eleven story first. So I was at 7-Eleven, a mile from my house, okay, and I was sitting in my front seat on the phone with a good buddy of mine talking about whatever stupid stuff that we talk about, and my window was cracked a little bit. The volume was not high. The volume I think was normal for every Bluetooth mechanism that you have talking to somebody and somebody was walking past my car put his face into the crack of my window and said turn

your or wear headphones nobody wants to hear your F-ing conversations. Like in a very rude way into the car. Right. So I asked him and I said, so your solution to this non-issue is for me to drive around town with headphones in like a psychopath instead of using the mechanism in my car that's designed to wire the audio to me. And then he hit me with an FU and I said listen but he wasn't prepared for that logic. Yeah I just like that's what your your solution to this issue is you want me to drive

around with headphones instead of using the design Bluetooth mechanism in the car. He hits me with the FU and then I said I forgive you it's not your fault it's your dad's. And then he like told me to get out of the car and I drove away like a wuss. It's fine. You don't need to fight that person. Yeah. I think that like what he wanted to do was fight but I'm just like wondering because I texted you and River about this.

And you're like, because like I like guys, you know me on the show, like I never know if I'm if I'm the problem. I thought maybe like windows fully down, volumes fully up. So I live in a college town. I cannot get gas anywhere near the University of Florida campus. I don't know if other campuses are like this.

Where there's not a college kid sitting there getting gas, blasting their music. And it's funny because it crosses genres, it crosses socioeconomic groups. It's not a this type of person, this type of music thing. It's a college kid thing where they just want everyone else to have to listen to their music. And so that drives me nuts.

So at first I was thinking, oh, it must've been really loud. But if you said your windows cracked, the volume's not all the way up. That's not bad. Like, there's nothing wrong with that. That guy just wanted to be a douche. Do you know how loud you would have

to be in a conversation to bother someone? Who listens to their own voice? You are in your car. I was sitting in my car. You're in your car. You're not, because there's another person at the gas station who drives me insane. Person having conversation on speakerphone while transacting at the counter at the gas station. No, I was in my car and I was just arriving and I didn't go in yet because I

wanted to finish the conversation before I hung up and went inside. But I thought it was a very irrational behavior and I'm happy that you've come around. So like- Yeah, once I understood the circumstances, no, you were definitely not in the wrong there. That guy just wanted to start something and you handled it perfectly. And I probably handled it poorly.

My wife and father were mad at me. They're like, you have a kid- I mean, you didn't need to talk to him that much. You actually didn't need to talk to him at all. You should roll out the window, ignore him. I actually think that rolling the window up and ignoring him would have enraged him more, to be honest.

That's the point. Yeah. You would make him, like, if you wanted to make him feel bad for being stupid, that's how you make him feel bad for being stupid. You pretend, well, you don't even pretend. You just acknowledge, you let him know that his mere existence is nothing to you.

Yeah. Okay. Now we have. Can I set the mystery up? Yeah. You set the mystery up. Okay. Ari calls me last week and he's like we have to go over this on the show. There is a mystery in my house. I'm trying to solve it and I can't. And we are going to need the people to help us. Ari? Okay so as you guys know my wife was in Paris a few weeks ago. You might have mentioned that once or four thousand times. Four thousand times whatever she was out of town. Oh no, I was in the Jeep Grand Cherokee Raymond, sorry, OK. So we both come home. I took live to Arizona. While she was gone.

And I left before Brittany and I returned after her she dropped us off at the airport and then she picked us up. We get home and she went shopping and bought her stuff, whatever, we come home and she has her big suitcase. Okay. She's going through the suitcase

and she's pulling out gifts. She bought things for her daughter. She got me a shirt, like nice wife activity stuff. Then she takes her dirty laundry and out of the suitcase, runs a load. Later on in the evening, she transfers it to the dryer, dries it. The next day, when she comes home from work,

I am folding the laundry on the kitchen island, which overlooks the living room. And she's on the floor playing with Liv. And I'm folding her underwear, because I'm a great husband. Oh yeah. I'm folding her underwear because I'm a great husband. Oh, yeah I'm folding a pair of blue laced

Victoria's Secret thong underwear. Mm-hmm. She looks up at me and she goes whose underwear is that? And I was like, I don't know yours. What are you talking about? I don't know. It's your laundry. I'm folding your laundry She goes what size are those? So I looked and there's a medium. Okay. I think medium is a pretty good size. I don't know. But pretty normal size.

I said, it's medium. It's average. Yeah. Yeah. Britt wears an extra small or a small because she's a tiny person. Yes, I fold underwear. I'm a man.

What's wrong with you, sailor Joe? You don't fold underwear? We, in my house, whoever grabs the clothes out of the dryer folds them. Now people need to put people are responsible for putting their own clothes away. But yeah, you you fold the clothes when they come out of the dryer. Yeah, I put them on the dining room table and then whoever's clothes it is puts it away. Anyway, I

was like, Okay, well, I have no idea who's underwear this is. Okay. Yeah. She goes, do you have to tell me something? That's like I was like, oh, okay, we're doing this now. I was like, no, I am not cheating on you in my house with a medium. Okay, like I'm just not. The medium.

Not to mention, I wasn't. Is a medium like a solid seven is that is that your laundry I'm not offending anybody I think you can have a very nice body with a medium I was joking of course yeah some of the matters bodies yeah yeah some of the best I mean I also too I don't know how the the thong underwear works but like if you have big nice tush then maybe you need a medium here we go work yeah so anyway I was like, you know what, Brittany, it came out of your thing. It's your laundry. I didn't put it in here. It's not me.

What do you think is the most likely that I cheated on you while not home? When I was in Arizona with my parents or you accidentally put something in your suitcase. So I text all of her friends, a picture of underwear and I know their husbands, but it was funny cause I was texting my, my friends, wives about their underwear. Are these yours? All of them said no. I texted my own mother a picture of thong underwear and said,

are these your underwears? She goes, no, Ari, I don't wear underwear like that. What do you think? I'm like, I don't think about your underwear at all, mom. I don't know what you wear or how you wear it, but I haven't even considered that. I texted her mother, are these your underwear? Nope. But yeah, do you know how desperate a man has to be

to text their mother-in-law if that thong is theirs? So we don't know where this underwear came from. And like you guys know me, like who am I, what girls am I getting? Like you've listened to the show, I'm not getting girls. Where could this underwear have come from? Now we have two leads. One, we have a maid who comes over and cleans our house once a week, who cleaned our house while we were gone. She's a fixture of our family. She watches our daughter, totally somebody that we would trust. Did she do a pair of laundry in our, did she do laundry while we were gone? And then a pair of her own underwear,

you know how it gets stuck to the top of the laundry? It seems possible, yes. Two, we had people coming in to fix this roof leak that I was complaining to you about for the last two months. That we're in here doing drywall work while we were gone because I thought it would be better for them to do it while we were gone.

Did they have a girl come over? I don't know. Did somebody do something weird in my house while we were gone? I don't know. The things I do know are one, I wasn't home and I never was home without her. Two, we have a ring camera. You can go check the ring camera. Everybody walked into our house until we moved in. If you don't believe me. Three, it was your laundry. So now I'm like stuck in this world

and listen, just so you guys know I'm not in trouble. My wife trusts me explicitly. I certainly didn't do it and if I did I don't think I would be texting every single person on my phone with these underwear. I did not. We haven't talked about it for two weeks. She's totally fine.

No problems in my house. We still don't know where the underwear came from and it's driving you insane. And it's like that Malaysian Airlines documentary. Like I think about that once a week. Like where did that plane go? Like I need to know where the underwear came from.

Game no bueno with a possibility I had not considered. That could be hot. Your wife is cheating on you with a medium. She's cheating on me with a medium. Yeah. So do you think it's a defense mechanism that she's putting it out on me when she knows where the underwear come from? But but why would she create the problem?

I didn't even notice they weren't hers. Right? Like she if they if she was cheating on me with a medium, which by the way, yeah, she would have been like, I oh no, those are mine or something, you know, just you wouldn't have said anything. I wouldn't have put it away.. Yes. I wouldn't notice. Here's the thing that I said to her too. Scott, do you think customs was having fun? I don't know.

When she came back from France. But here's the thing, like if this were you guys, and I'm being serious, like what would you think happened? Should I check the ring camera? Cause I haven't done it. Do you think some hot medium came over to my house and hooked up with one of the roofers while I was gone? I mean, so I had a situation where I was covering.

But also, why would the laundry machine? That's the thing like why would it be in the laundry machine like if they forgot their underwear, then they would have gotten it on the floor somewhere. True, because somebody would have had to go and put that in the laundry basket. If I would have seen it on the floor when she got home and she was home for six hours before I arrived.

Scott Scott in the chat says this is fun. Yes, check the camera. Think about how many times people walk by your house and the ring camera goes off or how many times you walk by your house and the ring camera goes off or how many times you walk in or. Yeah, it's a lot. I wouldn't even know where to go. I'm going to sit here and check tape.

Grind some tape. I had a situation like this, slightly different. I was covering a conference basketball tournament when I was a beat writer. And this photographer, he was a freelance guy, he happened to be up there covering the same tournament. And he's like, hey man, I didn't have, couldn't afford a hotel room for the last night. I'm exhausted, could I just go to your room

and catch a quick nap? And I was like, yeah, sure, whatever. I had one of those rooms with two beds and I was like, yeah, sure, whatever. I had one of those rooms with two beds and I was like, yeah, whatever, just don't use the one I was using. And I gave him a key. I get back to my room, I open the door and there is a pair of panties

in the threshold of the door. Very quickly, I realized what's going on. Very quickly I realized what's going on. Very quickly. And I'm like, get the out of this room. And this woman screams. She's like, ah! It was not the kind of scream he was hoping for. I was like, I'm going to close the door and if you two are out of there in five seconds, I'm going to have somebody come throw you out. And yeah, so needless to say, me and that photographer don't get along much anymore.

Yeah, I have to watch it. Somebody's like, you have to watch the tape like Matt Damon in error when he realizes the play was drawn up for Jordan. Ari will realize no matter who you got. That's the thing I need to know where they came from. And my thing is the most logical thing is that it was an underwear from one of the four girls she was with there. That has to be has to be in like, but like, do people forget their own underwear? Like if I tested as someone who folds his wife's underwear frequently,

they have so many pairs of underwear. I know, but like have you, it's not like me where I've got, you know, my rotation of boxers. Like there have to be ones that they don't even remember buying. I know, but if you pack the underwear or wore them or have them in your suitcase, it would have been recent enough for you to remember or recognize that they were yours. One would think, but I seriously, like if you grabbed a fistful out of my wife's underwear drawer,

you could have like 10 pairs in there. You wouldn't even know which ones. So my wife tracks my phone. Of course. Every time she calls me. I text her back immediately when she texts me. I am where I'm supposed to be at all times. I have no male friends that are independent of her friends that like my male friends or her

friends husbands. I remember the panties that you were wearing the first time we ever hooked up because I love you. Oh boy. Oh boy. How would I lose the panties? If I'm gonna have an affair, I'm not going to keep the panties like I'm like Jeffrey Dahmer and I need to have like a token. I'm not gonna bring the woman into my house. I'm not gonna put them in the laundry. I'm not gonna do it during a time in which you're out of town and I'm out of town. Like the circumstantial evidence of me not doing it is overwhelming. So I think she knows I didn't do it, but I am very, very concerned and or interested in where they came from. And like, we haven't talked about it, because I think the best thing, and like, she doesn't listen to the show enough where I have to worry about this. It's like, I, we had our conversation about it. It's been two weeks, we don't talk about it. I'm not going to bring it up again. I'm just going to let it dist, you know, yeah, often to the past because like bringing it up again is stupid. But I'm asking you guys, if you have any like real things. Or ideas of how this could happen because I have not texted the maid. That's the one thing I haven't done because I don't want to make it weird with us because she's an important. She would definitely make it weird. I think you just let it go.

I think you have to just let it go. And it's just, it's going to be like the Malaysian airlines flight. Once a week, it's going to pop in your head and you're like, how the hell with that underwear get in there. And you're going to let it go again because. Nothing good can have as, as Rocky top Tom keeps telling us in the chat, nothing good can come of this. Nothing good.

Yeah. But I don't want to be the first person in the history of humanity to not have an affair, not talk to a girl and not even get the sex and then get divorced for having an affair. Like that's insane. Because I think your wife is smart enough. Like she's she's deduced this logically. She's got it. You didn't do anything wrong. You're gonna be fine. Let us do talk about something good

that did happen this weekend. And it's from our friend Jeff, who's a daily listener to the podcast version of the show. Says, Hi guys, happy Father's Day and I hope you're enjoying a well-earned vacation. I'm a daily listener, also a dad, two boys ages six and 11. And I woke up this morning wishing I get my daily fix of Andy and Ari as part of this day. I appreciate you when you all talk about families and life outside of college football. So it got me thinking, what if next year you did a special Father's Day mini episode that us dads could listen to on our day, pre-recorded of course, no working on Father's Day. That's actually a really good idea.

It is. Side note, Andy, your talk of playing EA college football with your son got me to ask my wife and boys for PS5 and the game for Father's Day and believe me I never asked for anything fingers crossed update They got him the PS 5 there we got it if you're watching on YouTube There's a picture of Jeff and his sons with the PS 5 He says we should get a commission from Sony because we're selling selling PS 5's but commission from Sony because we're selling selling PS 5s. But so he'll get the video game, which will be out in July. And we're actually going to be talking more about the game to

we've we've gotten some dates on when when some embargoes lift on some of the things that we can talk about. Because we've both gotten to play it a little bit now. And I'm excited that the one I'm most excited to talk about, and it's going to be later this month, is the dynasty. The road to glory mode, where you create a high school player. And I think people are going to really enjoy that. So we'll talk about that a few more times as we go through this month.

Because they've said, no, you can't talk they've said no you can't talk about this yet you can't talk about this yet but I mean all time backfire for me I was in Vegas when the beta dropped I couldn't even play it I was also out of town we we were in New Orleans at the Tulane camp when the when the beta dropped so I'm excited for tomorrow to hear about your experience because you know I've covered a lot of those things super excited to hear how it it was. I'm super excited. Yeah and it's funny because your guy Mark Pantoni at Ohio State essentially invented the way camps are now and we can go through the history of it but it's interesting. So yeah we'll go in deep inside the recruiting process tomorrow how the sausage gets made and

we'll talk to you then thank you so much good to be back help me with the panties please help me