Andy & Ari On3 - TRANSFER PORTAL EXTRAVAGANZA! | Who's in? Where are they going?

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

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Ding ding ding ding ding. You hear that bell. That means the transfer portal is open. This is the on three transfer portal show presented by Axia time. The official timepiece of college football playoff and the best kept secret in college football won't be a secret anymore because we'll be talking about it all day today. But also we're gonna be talking about the transfer portal opening. We're gonna be talking about the transfer portal opening for the class of 2000. Well, for the year 2025, your team is going to start building its roster for real now. Yeah, they had signing day last week, but these are the guys that could come in and play right away. Andy Ari, you know how they do this? The stock exchange bell? Yes. Where would they ring the transfer portal bell? Well, last year they were ringing in Columbus, Ohio. Well, let's bring on our guy Pete Nacos. Folks, if you don't know this man, Pete Nacos, national reporter for on three. If he didn't say it, it did not happen in the transfer portal. Pete, this time last year, I remember we were here, we were here in Nashville. I get a call from you early in the morning. Yeah. And you're like, I'm writing a story that says, Kyle McCord is entering the transfer portal. Mind you, this is nine days after Ohio State had lost to Michigan. I'm like, what? The man had started 12 games for Ohio State and he's bouncing.

Yeah. And he went in at Syracuse. It was awesome. In passing yards this season. But yeah, that's just one snippet of what the transfer portal can take you and give us. So yeah, I mean, and now, right now we have a 20 day transfer portal window that opened this morning. It's been busy. It's been frantic.

A lot of quarterbacks already going in right now and we're gonna break it all down, but a really interesting situation right now in the portal. We haven't had the earth shattering one like McCord on day one this time, but we've had a lot of names that, you know, guys in the last few weeks have said, hey, I'm going, it kind of, Thomas Castellanos is the one who started it really from Boston college. He was the first one have said, hey, I'm going, it kind of, Thomas Castellanos is the one who started it,

really from Boston College. He was the first one who said, hey, I'm in. Yeah, Thomas Castellanos, right, leaves Boston College earlier in the season. He officially goes in today, and sources are telling on threes, myself and Steve Wolf, on threes, myself, I like that. On threes, myself.

You should put that in your Twitter. No, no, no, always trying to give Steve Wolf Three's myself. I like that. Three's myself. Always trying to give Steve Wolf on credit here too, uh, that, that we're saying is going to be a real player for Thomas Castellanos, which makes sense because for those who don't know, Thomas Castellanos originally signed with UCF where Gus Malzahn was. Gus Malzahn is the new offensive coordinator at Florida state. The offense Florida state is going to run is going to be the Gus Malzahn offense, which it was what it always ran because Mike Norvell runs Gus Malzahn offense. And so I remember saying this when Gus got the OC job. And I said that we had some commenters in the chat saying, oh, there's no way he's not, they're not taking

BC's quarterback. And like, you have to understand, and Pete, I'd like you to speak to this. Yeah. How much relationships matter? How much scheme matters right when it, when it comes to finding your second or third home in college football. Yeah. When you look at where these guys like to go, right. The top priorities are typically coaches they know, schools that they knew during their high school recruitment or previous portal recruitment, and then also like trying to get closer to home. So for, for Thomas Castellanos, right? All the above. Yeah, yeah, it checks off a lot of boxes there. So we'll have to see what happens. We reported last night, actually, that the Liberty quarterback, Caden Salter, was setting up some visits. He's going to be at Syracuse this Friday. Colorado and Florida State, we mentioned we're in the banks for visits. We've learned that

Florida State is not exactly as high on Caden Salter as last night's report would have reflected. But, yeah, it's going to be interesting to see what the Seminoles choose to do as they push for the first quarterback. So much of this too guys is just like trying to put together a big puzzle, right? Right. You know, you, who recruited them, who runs the offense, where's the relationship, who's Ant, you know, went on a date with their uncle 15 years ago. Like it's all this type of stuff that's going on. And I think that that's really important.

And the thing that, you know, we need to always understand, And I do think that there is this certain like feeling from fans of Florida State or big time programs like, oh, we're gonna go get the BC quarterback. It's like, the BC quarterback is really good. Like, and can be really good at your school. And you know how fast, you know, a player's profile can rise just by the, Oh, let me, let me help you with this one. Oh, we're going to get the Arizona

state quarterback. I mean, is he even going to start? That was the discussion among LSU fans when Jayden Daniels transferred there. Yeah, worked out. Okay. How about Arizona state this year? Oh, we're getting Sam Levitt. What is he? Yeah, he was like the backup at Michigan state last year. Yeah. Yeah. No, and then that is the, that's the conversation. Actually, I do want to ask you about another quarterback, Pete. Yup. Uh, Darian Mensah, the Tulane quarterback, who great season this year. Right. And you reported that he's probably going into the portal. Yep. Said that yesterday. John Somerall has since said, the Tulane coach, he's since said, hey, all these jobs that I'm up for, I'm not gonna pursue them.

Yeah. Does that change the Darien Mensah situation at all? So Darien Mensah was not recruited to Tulane by John Somerall, right? We talked about that a little earlier before he jumped on. But the one thing though is I think him going back, right? And John Somerall announced he was going back to Tulane after Darien Mensah's announcement announcement I think it's gonna be something we have to

continue to monitor right and and as part of the news that broke last night about John going back to Tulane it's a new contract there's some more revenue sharing assurances could that pay for Darryl Mensah to return we'll have to wait and see but that's just gonna be one thing we have to talk about. So who are the biggest quarterback shoppers? Yeah, in the transfer portal. So you look across the board, Missouri is losing Brady cook. Drew Pine has struggled as backup. So Missouri is a

landing spot that a lot of people are checking out. Louisville is going all in on Miller Moss. They've kind of had the USC quarterback, the USC quarterback, they've had success in the portal, right? They brought in the Texas Tech guy Tyler Shook. So names like that now Auburn is a big shopper. Really? We might we might have spent some minutes on Andy and Ariane 3 talking about why you free should have done this last year, baby. But yeah, the Tigers obviously need a quarterback. Hank Brown, the backup goes in today. So now there's two spots to fill. Yeah. Hold on. Why do I

always mess up his name? I don't know. Grenier, Griner, Reiner, Reiner. Oh, Griner. He went into, yeah. Yeah. We're looking at Ashton Daniels, the Stanford quarterback to maybe go, go to Auburn. That's one name to watch for Auburn. Um, and then there's the Oklahoma quarterback Jackson Arnold, right? Everybody wants to know where he's going. Georgia and Auburn have also been thrown out as, as potential, uh, places to land. What is your perception of the market for Jackson Arnold and how is he being perceived in the early goings of this?

Jackson Arnold and how is he being perceived in the early goings of this? I think that Jackson Arnold ceiling, which may have been dimmed at times at Oklahoma is still high in schools. It's so funny that there's Spencer Rattlers behind you on the screen now. Now it's moved to the Penn state, but Spencer Rattlers is a guy who was at Oklahoma, who had to go somewhere else and wound up doing good at South Carolina, started games in the NFL this year. Jackson Arnold, Pete, it's interesting because the offensive line situation and the receiver

injury situation at Oklahoma this year made it so I don't even know if you could judge Jackson Arnold on this year. Yeah. Hey, when we're on here, right? Live show. Georgia Tech wide receiver Eric Singleton has entered the transfer portal. Wow. He is a five hour drive down I-75 to Gainesville, Florida. Yeah, that use him. So he had 56 cat catches this year for 754 yards and three touchdowns.

His 754 yards were the 12th most in the ACC. Yeah, and he's a very dynamic receiver. I think there's gonna be a lot of people after him. But I mentioned Florida because they're in the market for receivers. He's a name that when we heard he might go in the portal, that one kind of popped with the Florida folks. Yeah, totally.

That'll be one might heat up quickly. Yeah, and another ACC receiver, very good established Casey Concepcion at NC State. And he's got an interesting situation, Pete, because like his brother just signed with Kansas State. Right. And so you see like you see Kansas State's logo with all these other logos that are going after Casey Concepcion. You're like, why? You're like, oh, because his little brother just signed there. Yeah. So Kansas State's going to be a factor this whole way. I think his mother would really like the idea of her son playing together. But man, is he talented. And a lot of SEC teams are interested in including Alabama and Texas A&M. So that's going to be one really interesting to watch. And while we talk about wide receivers,

Nebraska and Texas A&M are viewed as like the two biggest portal buyers at the wide receiver position. Marcel Reed obviously had a really talented player, had a really good year. That wide receiver room is not exactly top notch. And then you look at Nebraska, they're doing everything they can to make sure Dylan Rayola returns for year two. Part of that- Is that really a thing? I think that they're going everything they can to make sure Dylan Raiola returns for a year or two. Is that really a thing? I think that they're going to try to do everything they can to make sure that he's happy and

has all the weapons around him where he feels like he can win. I guess he did go to a lot of high schools. So he did go to a lot of high schools. Pete, can I ask you a question? Yeah. For real? Did Penn State lose their wallet? No.

Because Penn State needs to be in the mix there. Well, Penn State's in the mix for Concepcion, right? Yeah. Yeah. Penn State's the school to watch. Yeah. But you know, the Penn State, uh, in my opinion should be one of the largest. Penn State should be like, if you are a wide receiver, come here, we have money. We'll overpay you and we'll like give you a golden headboard. Like that to me is, is a program that could use it, but Texas A&M Andy's a good one. Yeah, and him. Oh, Pete's got some Texas A&M office lineman

cam Dewberry is now entered the transfer for all right. So there you go. The big guys are at a premium. We should just put the camera on him and every time I do love it. I do love it. Well, it's just it's it's so interesting because like, I've got people in the chat reminding me of players that, oh wait, this guy's gonna be in the portal, this guy's gonna be in the portal. The Truth, who's a Michigan fan in the chat, pointed out Jaheem Otis, the Alabama defensive tackle, and I was like, oh, that's right, he is going in the portal. And that's another kind of person who you don't find a human like that in the transfer

portal that often. No, and he's someone who's kind of keeping things you don't find a human like that in the transfer portal that often. No, and he's someone who's kind of keeping things close to the best at this point. We'll have to continue following to see where he's going to go. But he is yet to I think he officially entered would need to go back and check. But that'll be interesting. Someone in the chat asked Dane Key. Yes, he is a very interesting receiver, Kentucky wide receiver, Georgia and Nebraska are the two schools to watch right now at this moment. Um, obviously as wide receivers coach takes the

Nebraska job that makes Nebraska appealing. And then Georgia is obviously another team in that wide receiver market that we're going to have to be. Yeah. Georgia specifically, because you know, they're about to go on a national championship run and I'm not necessarily sure they feel really good about their, their white outs. Oh, you're talking about going into the play? Absolutely. Yeah I don't feel I think they feel great about their white outs at all. They're they're they're you know one or two dynamic playmakers away from being unstoppable back to feeling invincible. And as we talk about Georgia the three of us watch that Georgia Texas game on Saturday night right? Right. Gunnar Stockton comes in. How do we feel about Gunnar Stockton? Is he the quarterback of the future? That is something Georgia is going to have to answer in the next

two to four weeks. Right. Cause Carson Beck's going to the NFL. So you've got to figure that out. Yeah. Are you a buyer or not? Uh, got a list and you and I went back and forth on some names last night. Yeah.'Neon. That's the name. Like I don't know that any, the casual college football fan knows who that is. But this is a Rice offensive tackle who guys, schools wanted him to transfer last year. He didn't.

He decides to go into the portal this year after Mike Bloomer and it gets fired. Rice, you know, turns over. How many schools are going after this dude? Everyone, every single one. Everyone who needs an offense alignment has certainly made a phone call at this point. And he's a, you know, he is a diamond in the rough when it comes towards G5 offense tackle. He's proven who has the size and everything he needs to go make

a big splash at the next level. So, I mean, we could like run through the entire sec and top tier of the big 10, that's all going to try to make a run at him because everybody needs somebody like that. Yes. They don't grow on trees. And while there are five star offensive tackles, they can't develop overnight and start and make a huge impact as freshmen.

And also too, the discourse, especially like, as we have been talking a lot about Ohio State and what went wrong and all that, is that offensive line injuries are regular. Like they happen to everybody all the time. Depth is a problem in this era. I feel like having a, how many offensive linemen, Pete, do you feel like a team needs to have on their team to have good depth?

Eight? You have to have eight really good ones because even teams that have had two deeps in the past that had five guys on the second string that could have started at other P4 schools now have two offensive line injuries and are like screw. So like, well, look at it on Ohio state, right? Like so recruiting a struggle on the offensive line for Ohio state, they're going to have to do everything they can to make sure some guys come back and retain some top talent. And then I think a lot of the portal is going to be about literally rebuilding the offensive

line. And then how many guys do they bring in? Four, six, I mean, it's gonna cost some dollars, but they're gonna have to bring in quite a few guys. Yeah, not just Ohio State. The thing that I think is interesting about the offensive line, Andy, is that in the portal, a lot of times,

getting the best players is like, you can come and play. And it's hard to acquire depth in the portal. So there's that balance, right, between going out and getting a guy that's gonna start at left tackle immediately the second he gets there, but also bringing in people that might have a few years of eligibility that can provide you depth so that when injuries happen, your season. And you're also like, if you're trying to recruit that that person who is an all Mountain West or an all American Athletic Conference offensive lineman, they don't want to come sit the bench. Right. they don't want to come sit the bench. Like they could just stay where they are and start. So that's the other thing when you're trying to build depth, you got to trust your evaluations

because you're probably taking somebody who's young, who was on the bench somewhere else. And is this a person who can grow into somebody who can play for you? Cause that's, you know, Pete, I think a lot of people just assume the transfer portal is all plug and play, but it's not. I mean, you look at what Lane Kiffin did at Ole Miss, he did a lot of, I'm going to take

this guy with three or four years of eligibility remaining, and then we'll try to develop him here. Yeah. I mean, look at what he did with Jackson Dart. I'm aware that things did not go perfectly this season for Ole Miss, but Jackson Dart improved significantly year after year. And I mean, that's just an obvious example. There's other examples too.

Jordan Watkins, I believe as well. So, but yeah, I mean, Ole Miss and the Louisville's and Colorado's, they're all expected to be big players when it comes to adding talent. Let's talk about Coach Prime because he's built through the portal. Yeah. The past two years. Do you think they're going to turn a roster over as much this year as they did the past two? Or do you think now they've got a little bit more of a foundational base and then can plug in from the portal?

Yeah, I mean, so one thing that popped up last night, King Salters looking at Colorado I'm fascinated to see how that plays out these next few weeks as What's this Colorado do at the quarterback position where they bring in juju, right? Juju Lewis who's a big-time recruit, but here's the thing Pete It's funny because Kate and Salter and juju Lewis like if you watch them. Yeah, physically physically very similar, skill sets look pretty similar. And Kayden Salter would actually be the perfect guy to have Juju Lewis learn from for a year. But Juju Lewis, it strikes me, seems like a kind of guy who went to Colorado because the job's open.

Yeah, no, I agree with that. I think there's some other things too, right? Like obviously, J doors Sanders and I L success. That's something to do with it as well. But yeah, the opportunity to play right away had a lot to do with Juju going there. So what does Colorado do in the in the in the portal market, the quarterback position and does that impact anything? Is that the plan? I've yet to hear that one way or the other. Yeah, it's, that's going to be fascinating to watch. Pete, the quarterback names, you mentioned Miller Moss earlier,

but we've got quite a few quarterbacks that we've seen play quite a bit of football, but also some guys that like Devin Brown from Ohio State. Yeah, never really got he was gonna get his chance in the bowl game last year. He got hurt. Yeah, and so we never really got a chance to see what he can do. Is this a guy like a former five-star who can land somewhere and be a star? I mean possibly. I think it depends where he goes. You know, I think in my circles everyone's like oh he must be going to Utah. Like, because he's from Utah.

Yeah. So like, guys, everybody, like half the quarterbacks in the country from Utah. Yeah. So Jackson Dart was from Utah too. Yeah. So I mean, I, by no means do I know he's going to Utah, but that was like, so we'll continue to see what's going on there. I'm interested to see how people value Devin Brown. Is Devin Brown still viewed as that five star? He was coming out of high school. Or do people go back and watch safe and say, like, we don't think it's

I think Devin Brown's got a lot of tape. He hasn't played a lot, but don't you think you have a pretty good sense of what he is at this point? I agree. Yeah, I'd say so. I think we're going to find out, you know, who's, who's got those relationships and who's been recruiting somebody for a while who, because that's where it's really going to come in. We talked about that with Thomas Castellanos, but you really have to be able to connect dots. Like which coaches, I'm trying to remember now who finished

second in Devin Brown's recruitment. Right. So, and then, and then where's that coach now? Isn't Devin Brown committed to USC at one point, or am I making that up? I don't think he ever committed to USC. I think you're thinking Jackson maybe. Oh yeah. I don't know.

Maybe that's the case. Jackson went to USC. Yeah. But yeah, Devin Brown was one. He was like a, he, he was a fast riser in his, in his recruiting class. And, and actually was a bit of a late picked up as Ohio quarterback commits go. That was a late one. So yeah, this is, this is all just Ohio state's quarterback.

Yeah. He was committed to USC guys. I'm, oh, wow. Look at that. Wow. Uh, dude, hey, look at that right there. Still Lincoln Riley. Oh man. Don't even get me started.

Ohio state's quarterback room lost Devin Brown, but it also has two five star freshmen from last year. And then they're signing the number one overall player in the country in the following class. And like, I'm very curious. Like what? Like I'm on like air Nolan watch too. I'm on air Nolan and Lincoln Key notes. Watch. Yeah. Yeah. And we were look, I know people get mad when we talk about guys that are on rosters that have not said they're they're going in the portal But when when there's a quarterback room, that's that? crowded It's natural it's nobody left. They would have six right so like it just do the math Well, let's let's talk about another guy who was a big-time recruit. Yep cause Brian Kelly to dance But then left Walker Howard's been at LSU been at Ole Miss.

Yeah, now and again. And I think if you saw the one Austin Simmons drive, yeah, for Ole Miss against Georgia, you understand why Austin Simmons looks like the quarterback of the future at Ole Miss. So like with Walker Howard who was behind Jaden Daniels and Garrett Nussmeyer, who was behind Austin Simmons, who people think is going to be really good. How do we evaluate somebody like that?

Yeah, someone like Walker Howard from everything I've heard is definitely going to go to a place where he feels like he can play right away, throw a lot of footballs, and maybe take a step away from the big SEC spotlight and just focus on playing. Replace Darian Mensah at Tulane? I wouldn't rule Tulane out. I think there's some other schools too in the Sun Belt that are really interested. Interesting, okay.

Well, that's an interesting way to look because usually these quarterbacks don't wanna do that. That's not their, yeah, their MO. But you could do that, become a star, and then pop right back up if you wanted to. Yeah, no, totally. Totally. Sorry, I got sent a fake on three tweets. So it was thrown off. Oh, those are always good. Yeah, yeah. Please don't try to fake out Pete Nacos while he's on the air. I got fooled with Noah Fafita earlier this week. You

did. How do you feel about that? Embarrassed and stupid. Thank you for bringing. Thank you for reminding me. Yeah. Well it was great because it did allow us to create a, uh, just a mantra that we should all live by. If Pete Nacos didn't say it, it didn't happen. So with that Pete, we're going to let you get back to work. All right. Because there's a lot going on. Your phone is just, it's gonna jump off that table

if it buzzes anymore. So this is amazing. Please, by all means, we know you're gonna be right back there, keep us surprised as we bloviate because you got it. The news is coming fast and furious. Thank you so much. Thanks guys. Thanks for having me.

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What's up, fellas? How we doing? I'm better now, man. It's awesome having you all in the studio. This is dope. Host of the hard count, letting us sit at his desk. My favorite thing when we replaced him for a few weeks while he was tending to his newborn daughter was that every morning when we were in this show for the hard count, there were people like, is Jadie back? Yes, yes. Which y'all did phenomenally. I am forever indebted to y'all.

You have a very dedicated fan base. Yeah We need that blonde hair back golly golly, well, I'm glad to have y'all here. Yeah JD I'm gonna ask you because you are Younger than us you were playing college football not long ago. You have transferred. Yes, you actually did. You finished at Cornell, you got your degree, and then you went to Baylor.

And what is that process like? So I think, so I was a part of like the OG portal where it wasn't really in vogue. People weren't really sure how, I didn't know how it worked. Like I had like started reaching out to coaches via email and they're like, are you in the portal? I was like, I don't know. I'm going to graduate. So I think that I

think I'm like barely graduate much barely graduate by the hair much in each inch. Do you have an Ivy League degree? Some would say, yeah, barely, barely. There's no such thing. Yeah, you don't piece of paper. You can't be a little bit pregnant. You can't be a little bit an Ivy League grad. That's true. That's true. Um, I feel a little bit pregnant. I think the interesting thing here with this crop is we talked about this last portal Monday. Yeah. A lot of these guys from the Ivy League, like you can't play as a grad transfer, right? You got guys with maybe three years of playing experience under their belt and maybe like have developed over those three years, maybe late bloomers. That's how big Thor Griffith got to Louisville.

Maybe Joey Slackman's out there in Florida. So I think like that whole portion of the FCS is really fascinating because their guides it's like I can either unenroll and hang out in Cambridge, Massachusetts for a semester, which I don't think I'd want to do or I can graduate on time with all my friends and go play FPS football for my last year of college. So I mean, I think it makes a lot of sense. So when you got in the portal, like does it hurt to go in the portal?

What's it feel like? It's surprisingly painless. Okay. Little colder temperature wise, than some would advertise like 70s, low, like high 60s. See, I thought it's like space, it's like a void. Yeah, so they've revamped it a lot. It's like, it's like, it's like,

pit my ride, pit my portal since I was in there. They've like, they got bells and whistles in there right now. We put a fish tank in your portal. This poor nurse is like, I just want to get from A to B without like my tire blowing out there. Like, how about a plasma screen TV in the front seat? She's like, that'll do great.

That's the poor right now. So you were writing emails to like recruiting coordinators. out there like how about a plasma screen TV in the front seat she's like that'll do great. So you're writing emails to like recruiting coordinators? Yeah I mean so you're back at square one I'm like firing off emails to anyone who has an email so also it's different for me like I am a graduate transfer walk-on trying to find somewhere I'm not Miller Moss. Right you're trying to get their attention. No one's paying me down my door So, I mean, if someone will reply back to me, I'm like, okay, this is, this is traction, even if they're like, Hey, sorry, we have no spot for you. I'm like, but you did reply. So this is, this is finding the right person. So you're saying there's a chance not right now, but, uh, yeah, it's

interesting experience, especially as a, as a grad walk-in, but for these guys, like, I can't imagine you're having your DMs blow up the second I'm sure you get benched, you're probably having your DMs blow up. The second I'm sure you get benched, you're probably having your DMs. Well, I bet you the portal feels a lot better and more, uh, uh, tricked out when you are the apple of everyone's eye. That's what I, we were talking about the rice offensive tackle. Um, and he is going to be recruited by everyone. And I think his name might, it might officially be in the portal. Now we have to check with Pete, but Ethan only on why

is going in the portal or is already in the portal. And I imagine the moment it's just like his own battery is just gonna go. Yeah, I mean killer pronunciation first by you because I don't think that's an easy name to say. Yeah. Second of all, having heard you. Yeah. I mean, second of all, we've talked about this thing, all of us together multiple times.

Like if you are a big human being with starts under your belt at D1 football, like, hey, we can use you because there's not a lot of those guys walking around. Well, and that's the interesting thing is, there are some teams now that if they do this right, they can finish this season strong and jump into next season. Like South Carolina, Florida, those two in the SEC probably are the ones that jump out

the most where you look at the way they finished. They have this young core. They have a quarterback everybody wants to play with in both cases. Like, can you imagine if Shane Beamer and Billy Napier get this portal, right? What happens? The iron is hot, right? I mean, I think, I mean, you just said it perfectly.

You can, you have a chance to, I think just pour rocket fuel on a situation that's already starting to bubble a little bit. Like if DJ Lagui goes out and gets a couple of big time weapons. Okay. Hey, we're, we're cooking here at Florida and Florida goes out and wins nine games, 10 games, college football playoff. Okay. That, that'd be, I Florida. Then Florida goes out and wins nine games, 10 games, college ball playoff. Okay. That, that'd be, I mean, just, it's the high tie that raises all boats. I, as we all know. Yeah.

I mean, that's part of the reason why I believe that Billy Napier is probably still the coach there, right? Like they, Oh, I think so. They go out and they spend some money and allocate the funds the right way. Well, when I talked to Billy last week, he said we maybe didn't have the resources to do the portal the way we wanted to in the last couple of years.

And he was pretty upfront about that. And I think they feel like they have it now. Much better to hear than we just didn't do it. Because that was the thing with Billy, right? It was like, why didn't you guys engage in the sport in the way that it needs to be engaged in like why was Ole Miss steamrolling you, you could have been getting players like that to help your team and frankly speaking, if they would have done it a year ago, they would

have had a better team. And that and that's our Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I was gonna say that has to be one of the first questions whenever you're looking at a job, right? Like if I'm going to look at North Carolina, I'm like, how much money do I have to go get good players? Because if I don't have what I need, talk about that right now, right? We hear John Somerall today saying, I'm staying at Tulane. I'm good. That was a guy that

we think North Carolina was looking at. We've heard one person that North Carolina is looking at. Bill Belichick. Like, can you imagine? Bill Belichick. Like, can you imagine Bill Belichick in the transfer? I mean, Bill Belichick was not a guy who loved free agency back in the NFL. He liked to build through the draft more. But give him a budget and free agency and let him cook? Come on. What if Bill Belichick takes the North Carolina job and like just does what Brian Harson did at Alabama. We're going to do this. Wow. We're going to do this. We're going to do this through the draft and you know, this is the tar. He always just going to out evaluate. Yeah, no. So, but here's the other

question, JD. Still no coach at North Carolina. Sure. Still no coach at West Virginia. We think we think that they're going to land on one here soon. How soon you you gotta have somebody pretty soon. Don't you? It's it's getting late early like I mean when the transfer portal opens today and if I am wanting to be competitive at North Carolina or West Virginia and I want to acquire the guys it takes to be competitive like show me what I'm signing up

for. I it's hard to to decide on a school. I don't know who I'm going to play for like who am I committing to? The athletic director? The location? I don't know. Which is not a bad pitch at all. But the other thing, too, I'd be curious to hear all your thoughts on this. If I am one of those schools that is looking to fill a position at head coach, and I'm looking at maybe a coordinator whose season isn't done yet, and they might have three, four games left on their schedule left to play if they go play for national championship. Like we've seen coaches balance that before. Like Dan Lanning obviously did that when he was at George and he gets the Oregon job and he finishes through the national championship.

But like having one to two games feels very different than looking down the barrel of a whole new season. Like are y'all hearing anything on how to balance that? If you're like throwing out a name here, I think Will Stein is going to be a head coach at some point in time. Maybe that's your organ offensive coordinator. At some point in time. I'm going after him. How does that conversation even begin?

How do you recruit? Well, and that's the question that we've had throughout the year. And I think probably it kept some of these situations from opening. It kept some of these jobs from opening. Plus rev share starts next year. Everybody's trying to budget for that. Plus some of the buy from opening. It kept some of these jobs from opening. Plus, rev share starts next year. Everybody's trying to budget for that. Plus, some of the buyouts are so huge. But that's a legitimate question is,

if you wanna hire somebody who's in the college football playoff, be that a head coach or a coordinator from one of those teams, how much are you hamstringing yourself by them having to work through this portal season? And can you go hire him? Like Ari, if I'm going to go get a number of stoned out names

here again, a Jim Knowles, you're gonna get a Chip Kelly from Ohio State. Danielson. Absolutely. Boise State. You're gonna probably end up seeing is that coaches will be doing two jobs at once because that's not that's happened in the past. That's not like, you know, you teams have gone on national championship runs and coaches have been hiring.

You know, when I was on the Ohio State beat, Tom Herman got hired at Houston and he was like recruiting all day. Oh, I was, I walked across the field after the national title game with Tom Herman after Ohio State beat Oregon. And he puts a Houston hat on like David Bassi, who works for the Falcons now, but was Houston's, uh, associate athletic director at the time, like runs to Herman hands in the Houston hat. I was like, here you go. Yeah. He did the Cougs signal on the field that I might've been standing right next to you because that's all that happened

to. So that's what that's what you do. And I don't know how that's a little bit different because the national championship game back then was January 6th or something. And now it's on the 20th. So two weeks may as well be 10 years, you know, in this world. But yeah, I don't know, Andy, does that or JD, I don't know. Do you think that makes sense? Can a coach do two jobs the way that he did anymore? Or is it just two? I think it'd be There was no portal. So you were probably more like you had to get through signing day. But even if you had a rough signing day back then, it didn't just kill your entire roster now, if you're absent for signing day and the portal opening, then like you can hamstring your squad for a year and a half, two years because of that.

So it is a little bit different than it was 10 years ago. And you got to have it for spring practice. Like when I was in the portal as a grad transfer walk-on, again, mind you, not like a cam ward caliber player where I need to be there for spring practice. But like I'm talking to anyone who will give me advice. High school coach, she coached in college, other people that have been in the space.

And what they were saying, the timeline was, hey, they're going to get through spring practice. After spring, they'll have an idea of what they need. And then maybe you can have a conversation. Like, how far removed are we from that? We're talking about coaches not being able to take jobs because you gotta be in the portal, like right the heck now to go get some.

It's crazy. Well, also too, there maybe needs to be an adjustment too on the calendar and when this opens. But I don't think they can because they're not gonna change the semester system. Yeah, the semester system. Yeah, can I get y'all's take? I'm sorry. Are you cutting you off? No, no, you're not. No, no, no. I'm trying to make sure we're

synced up here. I feel like we're dancing over here, fellow. Okay, we're good. It's good. Go ahead, JD. Well, I was gonna ask y'all like I keep I we get to this part of the year now. And I say like, it's a routine thing. It's been you know, give or take two years, we're really into this thing. And I'm like, do we really need to have this be as long as it is for

kids to enter their name? Like, I get it. If your coach leaves, cool. Like I'm of the opinion. If you, if you know you're leaving, give them five days. Like you, you know, you're leaving in October, right? I call it when he gets benched. He's like, yeah, I'm out bouncing.

Right. Like, could we not make this thing like five days? Is that a crazy thought? I don't think that's the worst idea. Cause the stuff stuff that's gonna get bounced back, the stuff that they're not gonna like Changing it to one window They're not doing that. You have two windows now. Anytime you try to take it up take something away like that You're gonna get sued so they're not gonna take that away But if you shrink it down, but the opportunity is still there

I don't think you get sued over that. Like, I think you may be right, and they reduced it this year. If you would reduce it to a week or to five days, it's sort of like the early signing period being three days long, you know, back the way it used to be. Yeah, you could have like a five period. Does that solve the problem of college football playoff happening during window? Like what is that? Like what problem does that actually solve? Well, it doesn't. But

then the they've already had, they've already made some, you know, moves to help that because like the if you play deeper, you can enter the portal later. Sure, like the window extends to teams that are already playing. I just mean in terms of like the coaching, hiring discussion that we were discussing. Oh, I don't know that there's a solution for that. There's a solution to that.

Because unfortunately, you're still doing, basing this around college, and most colleges are on the semester system, and there's a natural break between December and January that that's where that happens. If you are going to change schools That's one of the two times you would do it Yeah. Yeah. I mean the whole the whole situation is so

There's probably not a perfect situation We arrive at like the college football playoff rankings like we were we are never going to get to a format where we're like 110% This is the way to do it. There's always gonna be but this could be different could be tweaked And this is the way to do it. There's always going to be, but this could be different. This could be tweaked. Um, but it does feel pretty, pretty obvious right now, like the coaching situation, the carousel we're never going to arrive at, like, okay, this is perfect for everyone.

This works well. You know, I got this. Here, this little shack it at the Polo outlet during black Friday sales. Cause I'm a bargain shopper. Uh huh. These people are millionaires. Is it okay that I don't feel bad for them? Figure it out. Like, you know, low outlet during black Friday sales. Cause I'm a bargain shopper. Uh huh. These people are millionaires. Is it okay that I don't feel bad for them? Figure it out.

Like, you know, I don't like, you know, you're getting paid a million dollars a year, so just go work extra hard for that two weeks or do whatever your team's going to, but just figure it out. Like, I think they will big money problems. And I think like you mentioned, Will Stein or any of you know, Kirby Smart when he was hired, stay in work worked through at Alabama until it was time to go to Georgia. I think you can probably do that.

The only problem is that you're if you're in a situation where you might have to actively work against your own school. Yeah. And usually, usually that's not the problem. But if you wind up in a, in a recruitment in the portal, where let's say you're the, you're still the OC at a school that's playing in the playoff and Oregon, and then you're the

head coach at USC, like you're going to be going to have a problem there. But I think that's, that probably gets discussed on the front end. You would hope, you would hope there's some of that. You could leave, you could say, look, if I'm gonna take this job, which would conflict, I'll just leave. I'm gonna take this job, which is clear across the country,

different kind of level of player. Like we're never gonna, we're not gonna bump into each other. That's fine. I think you can do it individually. Yeah. But yeah, this calendar is weird. This calendar has really changed everything

and they didn't expect it. They didn't plan for it. And I don't really know how you fix it now. It's great for guys like us where we talk about the sport year round. Like I'm all for talking about, you know, big time quarterback. I would much rather this happen in February. Yeah. That's a hundred percent for the content.

Here's the thing. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. His terms of like giving us something to talk about for a year. It's like spread it out a little bit for us though. You know what I mean? But like it does happen again. There's two.

So, and here, here's my only thought too. I'm curious to get y'all's take on this. This is fun. Like having you on the here, here's my only thought too. I'm curious to get y'all's take on this. This is fun. Like having you on the studio, just picking your brains on stuff. Now I'm wondering with the second portal wave, you have 12 teams now with rosters of good players that are potentially now if I'm maybe like wide receiver two on a national title contending team, I know that I can go somewhere else and get a whole lot more production and more volume of targets.

Like is that second portal window now that second wave, like when, when are the receivers that you're going to land that Texas is going to enter the portal, the Isaiah bond, AD Mitchell or vice versa, or if I'm Texas, I'm going to run it. I don't like my targets enough. I don't think I'm getting enough. No, maybe after they get eliminated or after the national championship, it's like, okay, now is when there's some, some big names that end up in there. Well, actually it's funny you ran that up JD,

because in the Uber back to the hotel last night, I asked Andy if he thought that because there are three times as many teams on the playoff this year, if Monday was going to be more subdued as a result of like 8% of the total program still playing more than it was last year, like, does that have an impact on the numbers of what we're going to see today? Because like, it does seem like, oh, well, it's only eight more teams, but 12 teams is 10% of the sport. Good, like all the best teams and a lot of the teams that like, like the Alabama's and the Georgia's and the Ohio States are the ones that have really good players who aren't playing a lot. That might be more prone to wanting to go in. So I wonder if like, you know, we were talking about the Ohio State quarterback situation for us.

It's like we're not going to hear today, but like, are we going to hear in two weeks? Maybe. Yeah. Are we going to hear more about Alabama's defensive line? Does someone want to go or whatever? So I think it's a good point. So, so we had a little news. That's good. We needed some NACOS with Chip, with chip train them. Oh,

Arizona state, Ohio state, Kentucky, and now somewhere else, a lot of backer into a running back. That's right. Yeah. Florida or, uh, somewhere in the Pacific Northwest. So he gets the whole tour of the country, the tour of Italy. Yeah, don't, don't. I'm not hungry yet, but if you bring up the tour of Italy, I will become hungry.

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So the Ohio State went to red face. I like how the college football playoff logo is like in the Mechanism that's inside the watch with the with the back. Yeah, it's pretty sweet and that's what I think if you are a especially Arizona State with the back. Yeah, it's pretty sweet. And that's what I think if you are, especially Arizona State Boise State, where you haven't been on this stage much, like this is a great way to commemorate that run. And I like the players when they get these are going to be sweet. Yeah. Everyone's doing the chador. Oh, yeah. Everyone's doing the chador. Absolutely. Scat about actually a time piece, get in the end zone That first playoff boom is on a stage just boom

Autograph, I mean I am glad you brought up cam scat a boo because that is a great conversation to have though We don't have all of the names in the portal yet but like I can tell you right now the tight end position is full of guys that that probably the average college football fan hasn't heard of that there's a bunch of schools they're going to be all over. So if you don't know, uh, Tanner Cozio, the ball state tight end, or you don't know Charlotte tight end, Colin Webber, uh, or, or North coast state safety. Cole was new ski. Like you're going to learn those names. Cam Scataboo.

Nobody had heard of. He was at Sacramento State and Kenny Dillingham and company fighting now. He was the big sky conference offensive player of the year. His last year at Sacramento State, which is it's a great way to do your homework in the transfer portal is just look for the, the all conference teams in the, in the big sky in the Missouri Valley and say, all right, who might be interested in playing on a bigger stage? I mean, it is pretty remarkable though that like, you know, for all the things that Kenny Dillingham has done right to be able to go get a player who is going to be on Heisman

Trophy ballots from a place like Sacramento State when no one's heard of him before. And you know, frankly speaking, I don't think a lot of people heard of him coming into the year once he even came to Arizona State. He was, he was, he was very good in his first year as an Arizona State. I guarantee you when he got to Arizona State in 2023, but people that nobody knew him after the year that he had last year. So to see him blossom and play the way that he did in the big 12 title game the other day was incredible. Also one of the first players I used in NCAA this year, uh, at the beginning of the year, cause I was pretty fired up about it.

Hey, hat tip to you too. Two weeks ago, we're doing the Heisman trophy, you know, pseudo voting that we do and truly on three and you're like, I'm putting the camp scouting with my top three. So like victory lap to you right there. Yeah. No, I appreciate that. Um, I mean, I was late to the party. I had cam warden my third spot all year, but like, when you go actually look at

his numbers, they're pretty remarkable. It's freakish. He's, he's, he's having a, he's having a great year statistically too. So, you know, I think that, you know, being in a position where you are the engine that's driving a team that's on a six game winning streak and just cracked the back door of the playoff. Um, and doing it in such an entertaining and fun way. Like I think that that's, and you game winning streak and just crack the back door of the playoff and doing it in such an entertaining and fun way. Like I think that that's, and you have the stats to back it up. Like that's, like, I got to

be careful what I say. Like, you know, you can't, but it's a, he's a really good player. And I think that it's just an illustration of how a coach can be good at the portal. Yes. Yes. And you mentioned you're a bargain shopper. You can be a bargain shopper in the portal. Yeah. You can get really good helpful players who are coming from a lower level if you understand what you're looking at, if you understand how to evaluate. I mean, look at Vanderbilt. Like Diego Pavia, obviously he popped a little bit nationally beaten Auburn a year ago at next state. But you're like, hey, I guarantee the price point for him who changed your season that made Vanderbilt one cover that over on their three and a half win total with ease or two and a half, two and a half win total, which was, I mean, phenomenal.

But also like, I guarantee he was a lower price point than a Cam Ward or a fill in the blank, whatever quarterback you want next. He changed your season in a lot of ways. And a lot of that was a package. You know, a lot of that was the package of Jerry kill comes to work. Jerry kill was the head coach at New Mexico state comes to work with Clark Lee at Vanderbilt. They hire Tim Beck, who was with Jerry kill at New Mexico state, who was the offensive coordinator that Diego probably knew and loved. And it all

worked beautifully together. Yeah. And that's why, that's why we tell you connect the dots. Why when Pete was here, we're talking about Thomas Castellanos and don't be surprised if Florida state's in the mix for him because he initially signed with Gus at UCF and Gus is now the OC at Florida state. And also too, if you are a bargain product and you have multiple years of eligibility left, I also think too, that it gives you have multiple years of eligibility left. I also think too, that it gives you an extra layer of something to think about in terms of where you're going, because it might not always be the biggest bag.

If you go to the right place and have the right opportunity with multiple years of eligibility, um, you can, your star can rise, but at the same time too, when your star rises, so to your price. So like, yeah, like then the next year in terms of retention too, like it's not always where do you go to get the biggest bag? I think that like there is going to be or has to be a balance of fit and, and coaching, gelling with the coaching, all the things that help people achieve what their skillset says they can, you know, like that's the thing. So you know, so much in the NFL is about where does a person get drafted? What, how's the

fit? How's the scheme? And that's maybe the difference between being an all pro and getting cut in college. It's the same thing. If you have the right place for you, that's going to illustrate your skillset. Then you can flourish in a way that not only puts you in a position to get selected in the draft, but make more money in NIL over the long term. So speaking of fits and shoppers and let's, let's go through the schools and identify what they need the most. Ari, you mentioned one earlier, like this is one that at this position group, they should be overspending because they kind of have everything else.

Yeah. So Ari mentioned Penn State and wide receiver. Like, imagine if Penn State got three good wide receivers in the transfer portal. How much could change there? They beat Oregon. If they have Tess Johnson on their team in that Big Ten title game, I think they might beat Oregon because they have that much other, you know, weapons to go along with. An interesting example that you get, why is Tess Johnson in Oregon? Because Tess Johnson grew up with Bo Nix.

Yeah, yeah. And that's how that happened. Yeah. Like it wasn't that Dan Lanning knew all about Tess Johnson. I imagine Bo Nix was in his ear saying, my guy's down at Troy. You need to go get him. Hey, Deshaun Jackson is currently playing G5 football. Go get him over here.

Let's go win a big 10 champ. We'll talk about next. But Tess Johnson finished the deal. But so let's say you're Andy Cotillnicki and you don't have necessarily that relationship with Casey Concepcion or with any of these big receivers in the portal. Throw some freaking money at absolutely. I mean, I'm curious.

I think it starts to a little bit with what happens at quarterback. Because if I am a KC Concepcion or Kevin Concepcion or I'm filling any big portal target here, a Barion Brown or whoever, if I'm even considering Penn State, my first question is after how much am I getting to go there, who's throwing me the freaking football? And if it's not Drowler, I'm like, well, well, maybe, you know, he's gone to the league in this in this hypothetical, like, is it bro, I don't know. Yeah, what does it look like in the portal? Yeah, yeah. That's, that's the question. I mean, they certainly seem to be

acting like bro, who was going to be there and going to be the guy. So, I mean, I think also getting him in the game a lot more now, you know, intentionally, rather than just, you know, you know, might be the case of that too. It's also too like Penn State has won a lot of football games in the past with guys like vote for people that are quarterback. Absolutely.

So like, I don't look down on that. Like that's. Well, and you've seen what, what big time receivers there can do. Like KJ Hamler was awesome there. Uh, you know, they've had first round receivers. You don't have to have John Elway as your quarterback in college to win a national title. I think that we've gotten to a point where people think

that you do, but I don't think you do. Well, interesting. Let's let's talk about a school that may have John Elway as their quarterback. The Florida Gators, DJ Lagway. Listen, the kids are good. That's an interesting comp, but yeah, I don't know that I'm copying him. No pushback over here. I don't know though. Have you seen? Have you seen how far John Elway could throw the ball? Yeah, John Elway had a really big arm and was very elusive. So maybe you're on. Yeah. Yeah. So DJ Lagway is is probably the most exciting freshman quarterback in the

country. This year, you look at the way that that they finish their season and some of the flashes he showed as a starter for the second half of the season. They gotta get receivers have to because you look at what he did with as a starter for the second half of the season, they gotta get receivers. Have to. Because you look at what he did with Camille Dekai and Elijah Badger, who are out of eligibility and were good receivers, but they were not superstars.

Like Ricky Pearsall, who was at Florida the year before, was a, you know, that's a first round guy. Guy, yeah. If Florida could get a couple of those, how does that change? And we mentioned Eric Singleton who the Georgia Tech receiver who just went to the portal? That's one that's a name. I had heard if he goes in Watch him some intrigue there. Yeah, I think the thing too. There is like You are obviously a massive part of the offense if you are next Eric Singleton and go to Florida

There's also still guys that can take some pressure off of you. Like you still have to deal with Trey Wilson. You still have to deal with what they're gonna do. I don't know, well, we'll see if you have to deal with Trey Wilson, we'll see. Interesting, okay. Yeah, we'll see how that goes. The plot thickens. Aidan Mizell, I think, is gonna be very good there though.

Sure. So, but you've got that, and then they need D-line help. Cam Jackson may have played his way into too good of a draft pick to, to come back at this moment, or they may be able to get him back. And then, but I still think you need like an elite edge rusher and you know, who goes into the portal. Uh, you've seen some like Nebraska had an edge rusher going to the portal, but we looked at that and go, okay, Tony white, the DC from Nebraska is now

the DC at Florida state and this this guy's from Mobile, Alabama. That feels like a natural fit. Like he may be headed to Tallahassee. But that's what Florida, if they get receivers, edge rushers, somebody in the chat mentioned the Lenora Sellers, like the Norris Sellers of South Carolina, unbelievably exciting guy to play with. Dylan Stewart, the edge rusher at South Carolina. Like they've got some great young players. Talk about trajectory of like a place that feels like it's

about to explode in a positive way, like a powder keg. I mean, you go get a Barry and Brown to South Carolina. You would get a, I don't know if this is a name, but Micah Hudson to a South, like just a elite skill player. Micah Hudson was a five star receiver. Yes. Texas player. Micah Hudson was a five-star receiver, Son of a Texas Tech. Yes. Yes. I just sprinkle that in, you're good.

The thing that I think is interesting too, is that like you can go down the list of like, which teams need what position. And like, I think that there's another question that should be asked. Okay. Which is, should teams be buyers at certain positions regardless, no matter what matter what like should you be a buyer?

I'm glad you defensive end if you don't need one Yes, because there's always value there and I'm glad you brought this up. So Gunnar Hansen He's one of Vanderbilt's offensive lineman It's like you go by him even if you don't have an overt need for that offensive line. Well, he reported This morning that Gunnar Hansen is lining up a visit to South Carolina. Okay. There we go. So that's what I mean, and that they've got, you know, they've got a cornerstone left tackle who was a freshman last year, but they want, they're going to need, and you always need help on the offensive line. Yep. Always, always, always. So that's, you're right about that, Ari.

If you can get a starter quality offensive lineman out of the portal, you can start a quality defensive lineman out of the portal and they want to come to your school and the price is right. Yes. Yeah. Every time. Yeah. And it's like, cause like we saw teams taking luxury items last year, right?

Yeah. Like the one that jumps out to me is Ohio state taking win shot junkets. They didn't need a running just for fun. They just went and got them just for fun. Right. It's like, but like maybe teams should go get a defensive tackle for fun or an edge rusher for fun or an offense. You know what I mean?

Like a, a nose guard that can get after the quarterback. So this is just, uh, you know, food for thought, but as, as rosters across the board become less deep and injuries at critical positions become more more detrimental to your ability to compete for or win a national championship. I think you need to be taking players at those critical positions. Even corner is another one that we haven't mentioned. Like if there's a corner in the draft, I mean in the portal that has a ceiling to be in the draft in the future, you go get him even if you have two corners. It's sort of the NFL thing.

Like, yeah, offensive tackle, edge rusher, defensive tackle, corner wide receiver one. Like you can never have enough more. Yeah, that limit does not exist. And the school that I think did this really well last portal cycle was Miami. And we haven't mentioned Miami. I don't think once this show, it's so crazy because they were great at it and they've been good at combining what they

do at a high school with the portal. It's not just portal. They're really good at finding big guys in high school, bringing them along or playing them immediately in some cases like Maui Noah, the younger Maui Noah started as a freshman. You know, they've had defensive lineman who started as freshmen. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So, but they also have really plugged in through the portal. I think probably them not making the playoff this year is the reason we're not having that

conversation. We should be, though, because they barely missed it. And if the offseason this season, this offseason goes as well as the last one did, they're gonna be like, but they need a quarterback. And there's proof of concept there too, which would be exciting to me is like, if I can make the pitch from Shannon Dawson, and I'm still at Miami as the OC, I'm saying, hey, listen, Cam Ward is going to probably be a first round draft pick. He wasn't that way before he got here. Come play in this offense, throw it around the yard, live in Miami, which isn't a bad deal. Yeah, Coral Gables is a hell of a neighborhood.

Let's get rolling. That should be, I think, a portal destination for quarterbacks. If I'm in there and I'm looking and they'll take me. Guys, also. One of the best things about the transfer portal, same thing we love about high school recruiting too, is some of the names. Yeah, some good names in there. You ready? You ready?

You ready for the best one so far? South Alabama running back Fluff Bothwell has entered the portal. Fluff Bothwell. It's electric. Fluff Bothwell ran 111 times for 832 yards and 13 touchdowns this season. So tearing up the Sun Belt, seven and a half yards to carry. Fluff Bothwell is going to be somebody's bell cow running back

next year. Big Fluffy, baby. Take a roll of Big Fluffy. Yeah. Fourth and Fluffy is what I would say. Yeah, he actually showed up pretty big in a game this year that I had some action on the other side of it and Good to see ya fluffy Bluff both well, so like if you if you have no dog in the hunt or if you're just not sure Who your team should be going after? Go after the guys with the cool names. After the names. I mean, he's got to have, I mean, with a name like that, like I get you probably don't want to have a pillow

and I deal and I'll deal, but like money is money, you know, like show up somewhere. You got to get like a snuggie deal. Have to write. Like, I mean, it's just, you're leaving money on the. The marshmallow spread. Oh, fluff. Yeah, this is fluff. Something there for fluff. There's something there. fluff, fluff on fluff. Oh, there's something like, you know, KB toys like

William in the chat sounds like fluff about to be a duck. Speaking of a previous transfer portal name in there, Storm Duck. Storm Duck. Again, not in the portal right now to my understanding, but I think he's out of L.A. I think it's the NFL. Yeah, finally. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, flush to get a marshmallow or a Q-tip NIL deal somewhere. Yeah. I mean, so I guess here's my question for y'all when it comes to how we discuss this. Like, I heard y'all talking earlier with Pete and Akos about names that aren't in there. Right. But we all have brains that work properly and we're kind of doing the math. It's like, okay, hey, this guy's OC left. How, like, I mean, how do you go about approaching that, especially, you know, I mean, like, what's, what's fair to mention with someone like that? It is really tough because I don't know. We were actually, let's say people behind the curtain,

we've had internal discussions about the Sedan 3. Sure. And we've watched other companies. Last year, we were watching another company that did a couple of stories where they said, well, if this guy entered the portal, and people went berserk, they hated it. They were so mad about it. And I think that's the, that's the hardest part. You know, I just don't know. Well, the thing that's interesting guys is that in the NFL, there are contracts. So you know definitively when somebody's going to be up, right?

Or you know when they are going to be a free agent or be on the market. But in the NFL, you have made up hypotheticals about trades. All the time. All the time. But it doesn't, it doesn't bother NFL fans because they understand the transactional nature of the business. College fans, it's different. Yeah. Even though it is a transactional business, even though for the players, they're thinking about this is my career. I need the best fit. For the fans, it's your university. Yeah. You want the players to love it as much as you do.

And so you don't want, like, you can't think about it that way. And I think that's what bothers people when we talk about guys who are not in the portal yet, who might benefit from going in the portal over the years too. There's been a, a certain level of, uh, you know, tiptoeing you'd have to do around certain things as a result of these players, not making any money and being amateurs, like, you know, for awhileeing you'd have to do around certain things as a result of these players not making any money and being amateurs. Like, you know, for a while, like you just would never wanna criticize

if a player had a bad game. Five years ago, you didn't wanna like write a column about how that player sucks. And now if that dude's making a million five, like it's no problem. Yeah. Like now also too, if they are commodities who are being compensated properly,

and this is a transactional business, then there has to become a certain point where your favorite, uh, or your, your Rudy like feelings for your university are secondary. You know what I mean? And I'm not talking about the players. Talk about the fans. Yeah. Like grow up, Peter Pan. Like this is the way it works. Well, I say it is. So harsh. But it's true because like, it's like how come when a player comes into a university that doesn't matter?

Like if they transfer from somebody else, but they come to your favorite school, that's fine. But if a player leaves, then their backs because people like what they like the thing they like and they want the thing they like to do well. But it's the same thing I know that I always struggle with, which is, you know, of course they think that but it's like, you know what? It's okay to talk about know that I always struggle with, which is, you know, of course they think that, but it's like, you know what? It's okay to talk about things that might be angry. I'm going to throw a name out there who's not in here.

I love where you're going. I'm going to throw it. Do it. Because everybody said it. Jump in, baby. You know, he knows everybody's talking about him. John Matier, Washington State quarterback. Thank you.

Is that why you asked him to begin with? Yeah, so I was like, there are articles out there talking about his, the Washington state head coach is being asked like, hey, is there a chance he does it? Ben Arbuckle, their offensive coordinator has been hired at Oklahoma and Jackson Arnold has said he's going in the portal. We can connect the dots. We're all doing math. And so the reason why I say that is I look at this quarterback crop in no offense to Connor Wegman, Jackson Arnold, I think still had a raw deal at Oklahoma could be a lot better than What he saw but I'm looking at this crop and I'm like I don't as of right now. It's portal Monday

I right now do not see a cam ward. I don't see a Roddy Leonard. I don't see someone where I'm like Hey, they're gonna make the playoff because they got this guy at quarterback I don't know if John material is that guy but he would feel like the next closest thing if he were to go to a Everybody who saw John material in person this year Yeah Who I talked to said this guy is that dude? He's so and if he ever entered the portal everybody would want him now if he enters the portal I think we know where it's going and and we haven't even talked it's interesting. We were an hour in we've not talked about the do

Not contact tag Yeah, like don't call me. we'll call you. Yeah, yeah. Like he's a prime, if he were to enter a prime do not contact tag. And what that means is what JD just said, don't call me, I'll call you. Translation, I already know where I'm going. Is that what it was like for you during dating in college?

Look at this man. Oh gosh. Look at this man. You said dating in college. Yeah. Oh, I don't need to give you my number. You just give me yours because I have a wide selection here. So the Cornell girls were getting after it out there. I mean, if the case gorgeous. Um, is it? I've never been there. That is the T there's a lot of waterfalls that are gorgeous. So G O R G E S, which

is like kind of a fun play on words. It's Ithaca. Like there's not so much to do there, but I've got no idea what you're talking about. Yeah. It's not, it's not really, it's not super important, but to, to bring it full circle, like John Mater is that guy who like, I could see us being here this time next year and saying, Oh, that's the reason why they're in the playoff. That's the reason why this team went from six wins to 10 or 11. Look at the arm angle on that throw. It's like Kim Wardle or Oregon. Just I just I know we're talking about the portal and I just have to understand this.

In the movie Road Trip, is Ithaca College Cornell? So Ithaca College is the D3 school within the same city as Cornell. In the movie, are they trying to make it? Do you know where they film the on-campus scenes for that movie? Is it Cornell? University of Georgia. Oh, okay. They're in Sanford Stadium.

Really? Why do I remember that movie particularly well? That is where the movie I went to on my first official date with my wife. Wow. Road trip together? Yes. That's awesome. Yes. So will y'all go back and revisit that?

Will y'all watch that movie? Did you guys hold hands? I don't know. The date one holding hands would have been kind of, you know, that would have been- That's a little forward. That's a big ball of quail though. I mean, we were engaged three months later.

So I guess maybe based on that timeline. You tell me. No kidding. Yeah, Andy knew what he wanted and he took it. Hey, talk about do not contact tag. Yeah. That's right. That's what I'm saying Hey, talk about do not contact tag. Yeah, that's right That's what I'm saying. I threw the do not contact tag out real quick You know what I want to get back into go for it. The job material thing is really interesting is this is our podcast

By the way, I love this so much Sucked into the wormhole Andy if he held his hands with his wife on his first date I'm like am I okay to talk about like the Cornell dating like I feel like I should maybe go back to John mature I love I love where we're going. No, I love it. This is electric. No, I don't have more thoughts on that.

I think that it's interesting because in order to get to the cam ward level that you're talking about, you have to be a player who has already shown that they are electric. And he has. And the only person in the portal, if he were to enter it would be Matier. Yeah. Darien Mensah. Darien Mensah to a certain extent but also to not to the same also. Okay this is

a question we were having uh me and and NACOS and producer river were having on a group chat last night. The average college football fan how much do they how aware are they of Darien Mensah? Zero. Because he played in a group of five league but two lanes on TV a lot and he was really good but I think you're right Ari. I think the average college football fan probably doesn't realize there's this awesome quarterback who's. I think even people who bet on games because they're bored don't really have any name recognition when they're watching them. I think if you if you played like Oklahoma fans I would venture to say probably know who Darien Mensah is because two lane game of the scare. Yeah so I think if you played like Oklahoma fans, I would venture to say probably know who

Daria Mendes is because Tulane game was scared. Yeah, so I think if you're one of those teams, you maybe know, but I'm with you. I don't think it's a name until you like, you hit the portal. I don't know that a lot of people know who Cam Ward was at this time. I don't think that's a crazy take. I think that like, I mean, people who are watching the Power 5 conference. Yeah, I mean, but on the moon. So, uh, it's blue.

Does look like the surface of the moon at 1 a.m. Yeah, at 1 a.m. I mean, if on the moon, so it's blue. Does look like the surface of the moon at 1 AM. Yeah, at 1 AM. I mean, if you were, I think you're right. If you were like, if you're what I would call up at sicko hours and you're you're betting Hawaii Washington State and you're like, I need this over to hit Cam Ward, your guy. Yeah. However, if you're the average college football fan, you're like, oh, good for wazoo. They still, yeah, I know the old Crimson flies on game day.

I think there's a disconnect a lot of times between how much time we spent thinking, watching and consuming college football content in comparison to like what a casual fan would, and that doesn't mean that they're not smart. They just like, they have a real job. There's a guy or they've got people, they've got stuff going on in their lives where they're not watching Washington state at one 30 in the morning on Saturday night and they have a life. Yeah. So Carlos in the chat asked what quarterback, if any, is Florida

State interested in. And we mentioned this a little earlier, Carlos, Thomas Castellanos from Boston College makes a lot of sense for them. And I said this on my show, we found out he was going in the portal. I said, or I actually we found Gus Malzahn was coming as the offensive coordinator for state. So Castellanos initially signed with UCF when Gus was the head coach to play in that offense. Mike Norvell runs that offense too. So it's not like they're changing offenses at Florida State. But Castellanos in that offense would be kind of fun. So I think that's one you should should think about. Okay.

Pete Nakos is coming back to join us breaking story about Carson Beck's injury. And it is a I believe it is a ligament that we talk about more when we talk about baseball. Pete, what's going on? Yeah. So sources tell on three that Georgia quarterback Carson Beck injured the UCL on his right elbow during SEC. That's the Tommy John surgery ligament. Yes. Yeah. No clear timetable yet.

He's trying to get some second opinion source still on three. So trying to learn more about that. Nothing definitive. Yeah, that is what he injured. OK, so I didn't go to medical school, but Tommy John surgery, when you hear that is like, I don't know if it's gotten different now because it's more advanced technology,

but is that a surgery? So, well, that's why they call it Tommy John surgery. But I'm saying like, but also too, I don't know that the mechanics of throwing a baseball in a football. It's different, it's different. It's interesting. I actually have a little bit, I didn't go to medical school either.

Got some really interesting background on this years ago, a couple years ago, when I was doing a pre-draft story on Brock Purdy because he was working out with a QB trainer who at the time was connected to a facility where they trained baseball pitchers as well. Yeah. And so one of the sports science guys there was explaining to me the amount of torque on the arm for a football player versus a baseball player. torque on the arm for a football player versus a baseball player. It's very different for a baseball player. So this is not a like, oh, God is his career over injury for Carson Beck, but it is potentially a, what do we have? What happens to him in the playoff injury? Like he might not be able to play. Right.

So George is going to play in the sugar Bowl January 1st against the winner in Notre Dame, Indiana. So that gives him, I guess, three weeks or so to prepare, but it's really unclear what the timetable is at the moment. Yeah, and so interestingly enough, we mentioned Austin Simmons a little bit earlier in the show. So Austin Simmons is a baseball pitcher. He had an elbow injury as a baseball player that they were worried was going to potentially require surgery. He got a second opinion,

found out, okay, I can try to rehab this. He did, and it's what allowed him to play this season in football at Ole Miss. Okay. And yeah, just like whenever you hear the word Tommy John, and I know back in the day, like when I was a kid, like Tommy John's argument, like you were out for like 18 months. Right. Well, it still, it still means that if you're a baseball pitcher, it does. Yeah. Okay. Still a little different for football.

And the other thing to your ear is like, so the UCL elbow injury is a tear or damage. I can't tell you if it's a tear or damage just yet. I think that's what the second opinion is all about. Yeah. And that was the thing when we were watching the game because you were trying to figure out what did he hurt. Right. Kirby Smart said hand in the half time interview and I was like, what in his hand?

Yeah. Because it was the way his arm got trapped. Because it was Trey Moore that was tackling it. You were going forward with your arm. Yeah. Right. It wasn't the point of contact right around here. It looked like the stress was on the elbow because Trey Moore is holding his arm down

and he's trying to push it forward. So the stress would be on the elbow or the shoulder. Now we know it's the elbow and that's a tough one. So Gunnar Stockton, we saw him play in the, uh, in the, in the sec championship game. Ari, maybe the guy this this may be like a Cardell Jones type situation. I thought he played as well as he could have given the he played better than Beck played in the game. Let's call it what it is also to. For as good as Texas defense was Georgia moved the ball the hell of a lot better than they probably should have

with how limited they were from a play calling standpoint, but you give him three weeks. Yeah, that's my question. I'm assuming this kind of Stockins been weeks. Yeah. That's my question. I'm assuming this got her Stockton's been in the program. He's not a, he didn't just come in this year. He was a recruit. Like he was a big time recruit. I'm sure he knows the whole playbook, but I imagine when they had to throw him in with limited first team reps at practice, right. It was probably a limited menu, Pete, of what you would imagine.

Yeah. I mean, and obviously right now they got two, three weeks to get ready for this next game, try to figure out what's going on. And obviously they'll keep Gunner Stockton snaps if he's started. I will tell you watching the watching the teammates, especially the offensive lineman the way they rallied around Gunner Stockton in that game. It's a well liked dude. That's that. That's a good hang in the locker room.

Yeah. I, uh, don't know that my feelings based on this news changes about Georgia in terms of like their basement and ceiling. Do you feel the same? No, I don't think it changes much. I think again, it's small sample size, but against the best defense in the country, I think Texas has the best defense in the country. Gunner Stockton looked better than Carson Beck.

He won them the game. Yeah. So he won them the game. Also took maybe the most hellacious hit I've ever seen. Yeah. That was clean. Gunner Stockton. Yeah.

Let's call it what it is like. Carson Beck has not been lighting it up this year. So you know, I think that there was an experience factor somebody who's played, you know, almost two full years of football for you, you want to have in the playoff as the SEC champion, but it's going to be certainly an interesting situation monitor. Yeah, totally. we've got Pete, I want to continue that John Mateer conversation with Pete. But first, let me tell everybody about Axia Time. That is our presenting sponsor for this lovely transfer portal show. AxiaTime.com, the official time

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Yeah, and and we we took the folks behind the curtain of the discussions of okay How do we handle somebody who's not in transfer portal? But when the dots are so simple to connect, how do we, how do we talk about this? Yeah. Clearly Washington state would like to keep John material. Totally. How would you do that if you're Washington state? First things first.

I don't think John material is driven by money. I've talked to some people around him in the last two weeks. If he does decide to enter the transfer portal, this has nothing to do with chasing the biggest bag. It has to elevate him where he plays. It's the same exact thing he did a year ago from Washington State. I think the one thing though that Washington State can do is obviously hire an OC that's gonna run an offense that John feels comfortable in. Then yeah, they're going to pay him well, right? A player of his caliber who did what he did this year probably deserves somewhere between

$750 to $1 million. And if you think that's a lot of money people watching right now, that is not for quarterback, especially of John Mateer's caliber. Kim Ward was one five. He pushed ish, pushed more like in the $2 million range. Oh wow, okay. At Miami, yeah. And John Mateer might be, if he were to go in the portal, the most sought after.

He would be 100%, as of right now, next to the Darien Mensahs. Like he would be number one, is the expectation. Now the one other thing too is as we sit around here and talk about what is John Mattier gonna do, the minute he does decide to enter, I will say that my expectation is he's going to Oklahoma.

And that's not because I've been getting any phone calls about tampering, it's because that's where his offensive coordinator is. Right, Ben Arbuckle, the 29 year old offensive coordinator who was great at Washington State is the his offensive coordinator is. Right, Ben Arbuckle, the 29-year-old offensive coordinator who was great at Washington State, is the Oklahoma offensive coordinator now. And so we were talking about the Do Not Contact tag relative to all this.

Can you explain the Do Not Contact tag? Yeah, so the Do Not Contact tag is not, it's less imposing than it comes across, right? So the do not contact tag is just a message to schools saying like, hey, I kind of want to do this on my own terms. I don't really want my phone to blow up for the next 72 hours. I'm going to make the phone calls to schools I want to go to. And yeah, when the do not contact tag is on there,

typically the player knows like the two schools they want to check out make a decision. So let's go back to the Georgia thing. I just thought of something real quick because we were we were talking about this earlier. Yeah. What Georgia does next year at quarterback. Does this give Gunnar Stockton a chance to say this is my job? This is the perfect audition to be like, Hey, you don't need to bring anyone in. I'm going to run the show from here on out. We can win a national title with that. That is what this could provide if

Carson Beck can't play because they do have Jayden Rashada who Yeah, was at Arizona State before. And but you only you took him if you're Georgia as a developmental player. He wasn't one you were going to tell him so he could compete for the starting job in 2025. Right didn't take him so he could step in for Carson Beck. That's the nature of the well. Yeah, I mean also to like I don't know if that's like disrespectful but like has Carson Beck been like elite?

I don't think he's been as good this year as he was last year. But I think the guys he has to throw to are not as good this year as they were last year. So like I think that Georgia has shown that the way that their roster is built and continues to be built that they can you know have a lot of success even if their quarterback isn't a Heism trophy finalist. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. So I think the one thing about person that with stocking, the one thing about Carson Beck for me, right. It's like he had such a good 2023. I I'm not ready yet to be like, yeah, he's, he's not good or stuff. I just think he's obviously dealing with something when he's on the field right now. I don't know if he's looking at things differently. I don't know if the wide receiver comfortability isn't there. Right. We talked about that earlier. All the drops.

If you don't have Vlad McConkey and Brock Bowers, it's going to be a different situation. Also too, like my comment isn't that he's not good. I don't want it to be taken that way. I just don't think that he is a dynamic. He's not the reason they're winning and losing. He's probably not the first QB off the board in the draft, which is what everybody thought he was going into this year. And also to Heisman finalist and a dynamic person that is the difference that lifts the team. Yes. Yeah. Like he's not been that player this year. So like, but you would expect that a place like Georgia would have that guy. Yeah. And like, we don't know what Gunnar Stockton is with more reps

and more time and more experience. But like, I am very interested to see what new blood if it comes to that in the college football play. Well, the thing is, if you're Georgia, you've got to make that decision probably before you play because they've got to buy. So the quarterbacks who are really good are going to be decided in the portal. Right. You actually have to make the decision. Do you want to bring in somebody to compete with Gunner Stockton and Jaden Rashada right now? That's a hard, that's a tough spot for

Kirby Smart to be in right now. That's a tough spot. That's a really tough spot. I would also think that like, so Ryan Puglisi is in the room. Right. Oh, that's right. Yep. Ryan Puglisi, by the way, is the guy who, when Dylan Riola was committed to Jordan, was like, I don't give a crap if Dylan Riola is committed. I'm coming. Which I kind of, I kinda, I mean, that's just, you might be a dog. And then when that happens, those guys usually tend to find their way. That was actually Mac Jones. That was Mac Jones' philosophy.

When he was going to Alabama, he committed Alabama, Jalen Hurts had already, was already on campus as a freshman, won the job. That didn't bother Mac Jones. They then add to in his class. That didn't bother him either. And he's like, I'll figure it out. And he wanted. Yeah. I went to the elite 11 two years ago. I think that's where we met Pete. Yeah, we did. We're Puglisi and yeah, and Rayola

Yep. And they were like, sharing the field and after the, after the event was over and we talked to the quarterbacks, like everybody was waterboarding him with Raola questions and he just like took them like one by one, like, yep, that's fine, yeah, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, I'm going there, I love Georgia, it's gonna work out and it's like, that's the type of personality.

It's like, then I wrote a column after the game for the, or after the event for the athletic called, with the headline that said, Dylan Rayola may be who Georgia wants, but you know, rival is he's what they need, you know, and like it, it's just somebody I think I think every blue chip type school needs a quarterback like that is a true believer who wants to be there. Yeah, that person may not work out. Yeah, but I think there's a good chance they do and they'll stay

longer. They stay longer would have so there's no expectation or entitlement that they're going to be handed anything and they know going into it, that it's going to take time. The Gunnar Stockton is also that by the way. So the one really important part of all of this, right. And January 1st is a little late to get a portal this cycle. Now, obviously CFP guys can go in after they're done playing, but they're going to know like either he's the guy or he's not and if it is, if Gunnarshtar then isn't the guy,

then they're gonna be able to have the wherewithal and the intelligence at that point to know that they need to go get a guy. So I got an interesting question in the chat that I wanna throw at you, Pete. Mac Daddy Donk, I just wanted to say that name. That's an important... More than anything else. This is going to be good. He asked what guys will LSU shoot for in the portal. I don't know. We need specific names. Okay. I want to know philosophy more than anything else with LSU

in the portal. I think we know they need defensive line help. They need secondary help. Now they obviously sign like just sign DJ Pickett. So they got some talent coming in the secondary, but their philosophy came under fire last year with Brian Kelly saying, we don't buy players and everybody else saying, buddy, you better start. Yeah. I think that LSU is going all in on the portal. From everything I have been told that they're doing everything they can to revamp the wide receiver room. So Garrett Nussmeyer has what he needs next year. And then the rest of it is going to be making sure the trenches are where they need to be.

And then obviously they did add DJ Pickett, but the secondary has been somewhat of an issue in the previous year. Well, it's crazy because it felt like LSU forever had dudes in the, like had four NFL dudes in the secondary and there was always some freshmen. If one of those guys got hurt, he could plug in and be like, oh crap, that guy's gonna be a first rounder too. So I think we're gonna be, are they DBU? Yeah, but they're not right now. No, no, I think we'll end up being a little bit surprised about just how aggressive LSU is. That's my way from you. That's interesting.

Okay, I'm glad you mentioned that before we let you go back to work. Pete, who are the schools that maybe have not been the most aggressive in the portal in the past that in this cycle are going to really be trying to get the best players they can absolutely afford Can you repeat the question I'm so sorry, oh I know look it's very something big just happened I can tell we put a pick in for Ashton Daniels to land at Auburn myself Oh look Ashton Daniels the the Stanford quarterback

Just name just went in and Pete's already saying that might be your new Auburn quarterback. I think Auburn will take some another quarterback. Well, they also have Deuce Knight coming in as a freshman too. Right. So that's going to be interesting. You freeze loading up the quarterback room. All right.

So the question I had was if LSU is going to be more aggressive than they have been in the transfer portal, who are some of the other schools that maybe haven't either haven't been aggressive or just haven't had the money to spend that this time around are going to be aggressive do have the money to spend? I think that We talked about Nebraska earlier. I'm high on Nebraska. I'm high on what Michigan can do and then and then beyond that too, I mean the Ohio States and Oregon's have consistently proved that they

want to spend money in the portal. Michigan, Bryce Underwood signs. But does Michigan go get an older quarterback? Yes. Okay, they want someone who can bridge the gap and someone who can step in and play some football games if they need to next year. And I mean, the last two weeks have all been Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, they got Bryce Underwood, they stun Ohio State for what the fourth year in a row. But now right with the 12 team playoff, they want to make sure they can compete for a national title next year. And that means that they need to bring someone in. So then

Bryce Underwood isn't dealing with it all as a true freshman. Yeah. Cause that's, that's a big program to have to carry on your shoulders. I mean, and frankly speaking, they've got a lot of places on their offense that they need help at. Yeah. I mean, just the quarterback, they didn't have a receiver. They need some receivers. They need a play caller. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, I would assume whoever they hire as OC will help us connect the dots on who that older quarterback is.

Somebody brought this up in the chat and this was a name I hadn't thought about from Michigan but I kind of love it. Mac Lefwitch, the Texas State offensive coordinator. Didn't Mac Lefwitch sign with Texas State? Oh, we did. Oh, shoot. Sorry. Well, sorry, Mac.

It's a great idea. It's a great idea. It was a good idea. What about the Baylor offense coordinator, Jake Spadle? Yeah. Well, Jake's sort of proven, like, I'm the guy that can fix your offense. Yeah.

He did it at Cal, he did it at Baylor this year. Like, yeah. And country. Oh yeah. He's worked at West Virginia. He's, yeah, he met his wife at West Virginia, actually. Good for Jake. I appreciate it.

I wonder if he took her to see Road Trip. They're a little bit younger than us. So no, I don't think that was their first date. Pete, thank you so much. We'll let you get back to work. Appreciate the update on our guy, Carson Beck, because that's a very interesting situation, Ari. And also, it happens on the transfer

portal show, but kind of probably affects what Georgia does in the transfer portal, or at least their strategy. Yeah. Because when you had Gunnar Stockton, Jaden Rashada, Ryan Puglisi, none of whom who'd really played competing for the job, if you bring somebody else in, it's not really politically that big of a deal. But if Gunner Stockton leads you to a national title or gets you the national title game, like, that's kind of a different situation.

Yeah, there's no question about it. And guys, I've been dying to have this discussion. JD's back by the way. JD's back. Glad to be here. He never left. Jackson Arnold is so fascinating to me and I know we talked about him for 30 seconds.

Let's, oh, let's have the whole Jackson Arnold conversation. Let's deep dive in. Put on the snorkels, take a dive. So like, I know that, like, and this is what I was gonna say earlier about the point that you made, J.D., about how there's no Cam Ward. And it's like, yes, Jackson Arnold's star

has dimmed a little bit. Right? Sure. All five of them. It's a little bit, a little bit turned down. Well, we can't say that. Is that, is that perfect?

I was like, no, it was funny. No, no, no. Um, that was really funny. I don't know that I would not fire a bag off at him and hope to catch the upside. I think that makes a lot of sense. I don't think that we have seen enough, nearly enough to make a decision that he can't be good. Oh, I don't think so at all.

We knew, because you compared him to Spencer Rattler. I think we knew far more about Spencer Rattler when he transferred than we know about Jackson. We did, Spencer Rattler had a lot more to play with at Oklahoma. And a lot more time too, didn't he? All of Jackson Arnold's receivers got hurt. All of them.

Yes. Their offensive line was bad. Why is this, why did all five of his stars dim? Well, I think it's fair because, or it's a fair question to ask because of everything we're talking about right now. And it makes so much more sense in reverse when you look at what they were walking into.

Like if you told me, regardless of the logo, hey, you're walking into the most difficult defensive line conference in college football, you got a brand new offensive line, you got a brand new OC, you got a brand new quarterback, and oh, by the way, your receiver will be an infirmary. Like that's just like, no, but put Tom Brady back there. He's not going to have success, you know? Like it's just, it's a, it's a very, very difficult sample size. And so I just, I'm with you, Ari. I hate that Twitter is so quick to dunk on a kid because of his lack of success and call him a bust and this, that, and the other where it's like, I don't think we even know what he is just yet based on those circumstances. Well, and the other thing that goes along with this too guys is, is whether or

not he is in a position to go to a place where he commands a starting job right away. Like he is a very young player, right? Like he's very early in his career. Like what if he went like, and the reason why I popped back my head is like, what if he went to Georgia? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, imagine that kid sitting on Georgia's bench for a year or two.

Uh, you know, I don't know if he has the temperament or the desire to do that. But I mean, like, you know, I think everybody's like, Oh, he's going to go end up at TCU or something and it's like, Oh, he's going to go end up at TCU or something. And it's like, Oh, what if he goes in? Cause he's from like the, that Dallas area. Yeah. Yeah. It didn't guy. But let's, let's do some dot connection with him. Cause the obvious one that everybody said is Mississippi state, which Jeff Levy was his OC that he initially signed with at Oklahoma. Jeff Levy also recruited him for Ole Miss before Jeff Levy even

went to Oklahoma. Yeah. So Jeff Levy was a guy he clearly liked. And on offense, he clearly liked that Jeff Levy runs. So that makes perfect sense that that would be where he would think about going. But like, do you think that Jackson Arnold- Tommy Rees recruited him for Notre Dame. Okay. Tommy Rees in the NFL right now. Sure. It's entirely possible all these OC jobs open the Tommy Rees winds about back up in

college football. Imagine you get the Pete Nakes notification Jackson Arnold has announced he's committed to the Cleveland Browns. Follow Tommy Reese. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It does kind of sound like a move the Browns would make. So but like, but do you think that he has market or that he can rationally command a starting? Guarantee in this portal cycle or do you think I think you should go to the place that he thinks you can man it at A certain school a certain type of school and what and how high of a level is that school? That is a Mississippi State about Auburn about Auburn

I mean Auburn's gonna need a quarterback and I know know there's a pick in for Daniels right now from Stanford. Well, and Pete said though that they might take another one. What if Jackson Ortega went to Penn State or something like that? Why would you not take him? Why not? Why would you not take him? Now for him too, I wonder too for him how much is it like, dude, I don't want to step into the same situation again where I don't have receivers.

Like if I'm, I think the same conversation we had about a Concepcion of like, I'm going somewhere with the quarterback. I'm going somewhere where I can get guys the rock. I have an offensive line. And this is all hypothetical because we're spitballing here on this show. I love it. Could you imagine if Penn State signed Arnold and Concepcion?

Like how we would that team going into the following year? Every preview magazine. And also too, like they always have a great running back. They're offensive. They play well in the trenches. Their defense is going to be good. Like they actually have a quarterback that back. Their offensive, they play well in the trenches. Their defense is going to be good. Like they actually have a quarterback, uh, that has, I mean, cause like what was drew Aller lighten it up his first year

as a starter. I don't think so. Like these guys are, are, uh, very young. Yeah. So who else is in that situation in situation of, we don't know how good they are just yet. Well, no, a team that if you added a dynamic quarterback could could take or has a good quarterback now is losing him and might need it. Because the number one thing with Jackson, I know, too, is that he turned the ball over all the time.

Of course, he does get his head beaten in. Exactly. Exactly. But who else? If we want to win Miami, if we squint and say, OK, Jackson, I mean, it could be your guy. Like, is that irresponsible to say you got a thought already? Again, I'm stepping in. No, you didn't.

At all. See Missouri in the chat. Yep. Missouri Missouri needs. Now, I like Matt Zollers, the guy they signed. So Missouri feels like one that they kind of want to take a one-year rental to get to Matt Zollers. What about North Carolina?

We need to know who the coach is going to be's dollars. What about North Carolina? Well, we need to know who the coach is gonna be. Sure, that's a big variable. How does Jackson Arnold feel about Bill Belichick? By the way- It's electric. When that report first came out that he had interviewed for the job, Ari and I did a video and I'm like,

I know he's not taking the job. Guys, he might- Take the job, yeah. He might take the job. There's gold by all, by the way. If you haven't watched that video, go watch on the channel after this. Guys, he might take the job. He might take the job. Just gold by all, by the way. If you haven't watched that video, go watch it. I'm gonna go find my hoodie. We went from like, grab ass to like a 15 minute

real discussion and then back to grab ass in that video. That's kind of what we do on our show. It's a great sandwich. But like, I do think that like, yeah, it was a grab ass sandwich. And I think that like it, I talked myself into some stuff there. Can I say this about Jackson Arnold? I think one thing that I was so impressed by with him this

year, dude has all the hype coming into the year, right? Hey, five star quarterback, next guy at OU, he's going to carry him in the SEC gets benched against Tennessee prime time game. Everyone sees it. I'm sure he's trending on Twitter. And then they go back to him late in the year. Like to have the competitive psyche, to be able to rebound from something that's a public failure like that, that gives me a lot of optimism about him wherever he ends up next.

Well, and the thing I like about him, and we'll mention some of the other guys we talked, like Thomas Castellanos we mentioned. Thomas Castellanos gets benched and he's gone. You only gotta go through 12 more practices, dude, because that if I was the next coach or someone who is considering him, that's a strike against him. For sure. Like Jackson Arnold, a lot of guys who were that level recruit at quarterback when they

got benched would be like, screw you guys guys I'm out of here yep he didn't he got back he went in and got his head beat in some more when they realized maybe it wasn't him hey our bad we actually need you one more time or maybe a few more times yeah oh by the way go beat also are we also going to just like not ignore the fact that the man wears a visor and how much better that makes you as a player swag. Like if you wear that visor, you automatically get like 10 points. Yeah. Jackson Arnold, Jackson Arnold, Florida State. I, somebody mentioned that in the chat. He's, he's mobile, but I don't think he wants to run as much as the quarterback in that offense runs.

Sure. So I'm trying to think of where, where he would really fit well. Are we a 100% sure? What about Michigan? That Julian Sains, the guy? What about Michigan? At Ohio State? Are we sure? I mean, Ohio State, Michigan's interesting.

I wonder with Bryce Underwood if I'm like, hey, they're paying him a lot of money. I have a few more years of eligibility to use. I just don't know that Ohio State's going to be in the market for a quarterback. They've got too many. I also think the Michigan thing, if you're Michigan because of Bryce Underwood, you're going to want a quarterback who's going to the in the market for a quarterback. They've got too many. I also think the Michigan thing, if you're Michigan, because of Bryce Underwood, you're going to want a quarterback who's going to the NFL after next year. And Jackson

Arnold could, because he's he'd be a third year player. But I don't know that you want because he's he's probably not thinking about it that way. He's probably like, I'm just going to try to find a place I can play and then whatever happens happens. But that, how should he be thinking? Cause like if Michigan- But if you're Michigan, you don't want somebody who might be there two years.

But it would be perfect for this year. It would be, it would be. Cause he's dynamic, he can do all those things. He's better than anybody they put on the field this year without question. By far. And he had a bad year. By far.

So, you know, I think that, yeah, I'm trying to- How about Jackson Arnold at USC? I was thinking that. I wasn't, I'm thinking about that plus the my Ava situation, but if I'm Jackson Arnold, I think I can beat out Jade my Ava. Right. I, and, and, and I guess the question though is, is Jackson Arnold willing to go through a quarterback competition again?

I think he's built different. I wonder if he wants to risk is the wrong word, but like, do you want to be in the portal this time again next year and Bernie year? I don't know. Listen, if you want to, if you want to be in the portal this time again next year? Yeah. And burn a year? I don't know. Listen, if you want to be a big time college quarterback, you're going to have to compete with somebody wherever you go. I think I would rather go to a place, no disrespect to Mississippi State, but I think I would rather go to a place where I could be in the center of the conversation in the quarterback

position and if it means going through a competition in order to get there rather than taking the layup and just going to a place where you're not in the spotlight. I know that you can be in the start in the spotlight at places like Mississippi State. I mean, we just got them talking 20 minutes about mature at Washington State. You don't necessarily have to be at Alabama to be a star in the sport. But like, I think that, like like I would want to go. USC is a very attractive place to me. Like I know that you know, Lincoln Riley just cost me $1,231 last night, but like it is without inflation, a good coach to want to play for if you're a quarterback. So like I could, I could get behind that notion.

Um, yeah, I don't know, but I, it's like But I think that his value is interesting because he doesn't have the Cam Ward stature right now that Cam did a year ago, but I think by the middle of the year in the right situation, he could have that type of production. So it's like that's... It's still a future play though. It's not a guarantee. Whereas Cam Ward, you knew what you were getting because he came word had a lot of snaps. I think it's also a word in Washington State revisionist

history too, because Cam Ward play like a psychopath at Washington State, right? Like I think that Cam Ward like really cleaned it up this year. Yeah, I know that he had some more had better players around. Yeah, no, I know. But I'm saying, Hey, guess who had crappy players around him last year? The guy we're talking about. So like, it's, you know, it, it is an interesting, an interesting thought, but like, yeah, cam ward was played like a psychopath or two years ago, still a psychopath. It's still a psychopath. It just looks better because they don't keep saying LSU is going to go after Jackson Arnold.

If Garrett Nussmeyer is back at LSU, Jackson aren't only going to LSU. No, one more school. And this is a roundabout dot to connect. Jackson Arnold, Dylan Gabriel, they're boys. Dylan Gabriel, before Oklahoma, was at UCF. Hey Dylan, let me shoot you a text real quick. How's Orlando? You, I got Scott Frost, the guy that probably, Dylan Gabriel's, I understand he was under the Hypal era,

but like maybe there's some familiarity there, it's powerful football. I don't know, I understand he was under the hypo era, but like, maybe there's some familiarity there. It's powerful football. I don't know. I don't know. Jackson Arnold at UCF could be fun. Could be a lot of fun. It could be fun. What about Oregon?

That's what I was going to say. I'm looking at Austin Novasad and Dante Moore, but I was like, I was like looking up cause I wanted to make sure I wasn't forgetting about somebody before I said Oregon and looked like an idiot. And that's like, I know Dante Moore was a five star himself from Detroit. He went there as the, to become the heir apparent at Oregon, but like what Jackson Arnold at Oregon. That would be wild. Jackson Arnold in Miami.

I like this game a lot. Yeah. I like this game a lot. Miami needs a quarterback. I mean, he's a quarterback. My, my only wonder about Oregon is I get there and I'm immediately behind a guy I'm competing with who's been in the system for a, for a full year plus a spring and Dante more, the way he handled that was also kind of

mature and unusual for that situation. So, uh, mature. Yes. Someone say mature. Yes. So for those who don't know Dante Dante Moore is from, from Detroit, was a five star quarterback. He was initially committed to Oregon. He flipped from Oregon to UCLA and played at UCLA as a freshman.

Realized, Hey, I may not have been ready for that. Goes to Oregon knowing he's going to be sitting behind Dylan Gabriel. And I thought that was an interesting way to for that. Ghost Oregon knowing he's gonna be sitting behind Dylan Gabriel. And I thought that was an interesting play that. Yeah, because there's a payoff there now. The question is is- Oh, John Tell in the chat. Won't Indiana need a QB? That's also crossed my mind. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Google him. Taven Jackson's there. Taven Jackson's there.

Taven Jackson is there and they do like him. Super talented. Yeah, came in, came in, those into the Washington game and looked pretty good. Was the end of the Nebraska game he played too. Yes, yeah. Was that after he got hurt. So they like him, but if you can get Jackson Arnold,

I realize we're putting Jackson Arnold everywhere. No, but I mean, I think to your point, Ari, I think this cruise- Jackson Arnold's a concept in this conversation. Yeah, that is very fair. But I do think like to your earlier point you made Ari was is there a pretty solid market? I think as we talk this through, there's a lot of places that would make sense that probably need a quarterback

and Jackson Arnold's got five stars out of high school. Like, I actually think that I would probably put them on my personal rankings in the top three right now in terms of package. Yeah, the whole package, but you know, that also could blow up in your face if he turns out to be a boss. So I actually let's do that now. I think I know what three are. If we ranked them, we'd go material Mensa Jackson Arnold. Yeah. Is that how we do

it? Yeah. Where's Kayden Salter in this conversation? Below those four. Really? Okay, interesting. So assuming Matier is not in the portal, and as of right now, and again, I could be off on this. Right, Matier's not in the portal. Okay, so I'm reading the transfer portal rankings over at all3.com, and y'all tell me

if I'm just reading this the wrong way. I believe Kayden Salter is the most highly rated quarterback on our site. Now, it doesn't mean that has to be our opinion on the show, but I'd be curious to hear, and maybe that's, I guess we're talking about Package here as well, but just pure quarterback. I'm like, hey, Caden Salter to place like Auburn production experience. was in the same offense he was in the year before, loses C.J. Daniels, loses some of the, and suddenly everything dips. And I don't know, because I mean, that's what happened to Jaden Daniels.

When Jaden Daniels was at Arizona State, his first year, he's playing with Brandon Iook and Eno Benjamin and looks amazing, and all of a sudden those guys are gone and he doesn't. And then you put him with, you know, Malik neighbors and Brian Thomas Jr. Oh, he's great again. Yeah.

So maybe it is. Maybe Kaden Salter just needs to be around more talent. I think I'd take it. Of the guys available right now, purely taking just the player outside of the package. I'll take the package as well if we put him at Auburn. I think I take Kaden Salter as my QB1 right now. Speaking of which, I'm on our transfer portal page

and on three right now. There's an Axia time add on. I'm looking at the SMU watch. It's electric. Everyone who watches normally knows how I feel about the Pony logo. And I realize, yes, the Ford Mustang, similar, similar logo. It's identical. It's not similar. Okay. Okay. It's my favorite. It is my favorite helmet logo in the country.

It has always been like when I was a kid watching SMU before they got the death penalty, the pony just, I'm a pony stuck out on this Axial watch, it is gorgeous. I'm just telling you right now, the Clemson Tiger product is pretty gorgeous too on it. I'll get you one so you can wear it when you come to Dallas and fit in. Absolutely. Oh yeah, I can just hang around Highland Park.

But Axia Time, AXIAtime.com, official watch of the college football playoff, official watch of the Heisman Trophy, and they are the sponsor of this year transfer portal show. And we are so happy to work with them. So pumped. And these things are gorgeous. They're beautiful.

Swiss made. You look at the specs on this and then you look at the price and you're like, wait, that's not possible. And say the important word here to Andy, they're automatic. They are automatic. That's right. Ari's a watch guy.

I have a confession to make. I'm a proud owner of an Axia timepiece of the 2024 College Football Playoff Edition. It sticks out when you look in my closet because it's the nicest thing I own. I just wanted to just as a consumer of their product, I can co-sign it. We know it pops off of athleisure. Exactly. You got the one that has the college football playoff insignia on the bezel?

I do. Okay. The ours and watch guy, he knows where it's like bezel. I was like, it has the logo, so it must be the bezel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, they're, they're pretty watches. Check out axiatime.com, A-X-I-A, time.com, the official time piece of the CFP and the Heisen trophy and the official timepiece of this year transfer portal show Which we're wrapping up guys. We've we've we've had some fun here, but this is

Going to be a really interesting next month because so that it's a 20-day period that the guys have to enter their names in The portal once they're in they can make their decision for their school at any time But let's be realistic about this. Most of these people are going to be going somewhere for the spring semester, which starts in early January. Yeah. You check the actual timepiece. It's not far away. So you wonder if we start seeing those Pete Nakos alerts pop up, the transfer portal on three alerts pop, the Hayes-Faust alerts pop up of like ex quarterback ex playmaker headed to oh I'm glad you mentioned that for folks who want to keep track of this minute to minute set your your notifications on X formerly Twitter at transfer portal

underscore so that is on threes official transfer portal feed on X at transfer portal underscore. And so if you were had a, an alert set for that three minutes ago, you would have gotten an alert about some Intel that Steve Wilfong and Pete Nacos put out. An early school to watch for Darien Mensah, the Tulane quarterback. Syracuse.

I like that. I like that a lot. Kyle McCord. We're kind of bringing the show full circle. We started with Kyle McCord because he was the bomb that dropped on the day the portal opened last year. He had an incredible year at Syracuse. Said, you know what? I'm gonna be a good NFL

quarterback. The blueprint is obviously there and who wouldn't want to go play for Fran Brown, help him get some more showers under his belt. I mean, who wouldn't want to go help that guy get squeaky clean every single Saturday? That's right. Only winners get showers. Only winners get washed, baby. I love that. Dari and Mensa. I like that. That is a great, great piece of Intel. So if you're following at transfer portal underscore, then you got that. Oh, here's a name. This guy might be the official transfer portal mascot. He's only entered it twice.

This is only the second time he's entered it, but I feel like more drama surrounds this man in the transfer portal. I guess who it is. Yes. Did he post a picture of a LA apartment at any point? Oh yes, he did. Yeah, go ahead.

Former USC and Georgia defensive lineman, Bayer Alexander is officially in the transfer portal. We go, baby. Now we've known for a while he was going in. This was again, one of my questions that I had. I had this about him, about Jaheim Otis, about Thomas Castellanos, like, let's say things are not going your way.

You're not playing as much as you want. Why are you leaving the team and then saying you're gonna enter the portal? Just play out the season. It doesn't change anything for you. So like for Barrett Alexander, like you're a defensive lineman who is three hundred ten pounds, you can move. You're going to get in an NFL training camp like you don't need to worry

about eligibility, like keeping an extra year of college eligibility. Yeah. Just go ball out somewhere and then go to the NFL. Like you could have finished this season at USC very easily. You just created another question for yourself and you get to the NFL. Like you could have finished this season at USC very easily. You just created another question for yourself when you get to the combine of like, hey, why didn't you finish the year at USC when, you know, obviously there's going to be at some point in time, you would imagine as the year progresses snaps to be

halibut offensive line. Like you're leaving in September. If you're a guy who you know is not going to play in the NFL and your best earning potential is right now in college. Bear Alexander will get a chance to play in the NFL because there are not enough humans like him to populate NFL rosters. He will get a chance.

So that part I never understood, but now he is officially in the transfer portal. Drama comes because dramas always come with them. And you, I'm very curious to see too, as we get further into this whole Portal era, one, how common does that become? Where we see guys after three games, say I'm gonna save the red shirt,

I'm gonna go ahead and go play somewhere else next year. And then two, how do schools evaluate that as it becomes more and more common? It's kind of like, and this is not a good comp, but this is just what it makes me think of. Like when everyone started skipping bowl games, I think the immediate take was, these guys don't want to finish the year

with their brothers. And like that's honestly like still a little bit of the way that I feel, transparently. But you circle back to it. Like I don't think NFL GMs looking at the bowl game and saying, what's wrong? Like, I wonder if college coaches are like, you did what's best for you, come play for us,

we'll have a good time Yeah, but I think you you also I would bet that people who know the guys on the staffs that have dealt with with certain guys Are gonna go i'm gonna shy away from him because My my buddy Tried this He told me what's coming Or maybe you don't.

Maybe you're like, there's only so many 310 pounders you can move in the world. I can get one. Yeah, we need to do tackle. Let's make something happen here. Yeah. Or it's like the it's the romcom situation. Every romcom in the world. The plot is the girl's like, but I can fix him. Sure. Yeah. So there's a lot of coaches out there, but I could fix him Yeah, and I mean to some extent too if you're giving up six yards of carry you're like We don't like what else are we doing here? Like we're yeah, it can't get worse

You know, but then then if you add someone to your locker room that isn't the fit and my sign that's barrel I was and I'm not saying it is But it could get worse I appreciate that so Mike Ateez from from Texas A&M just posted the email he got officially entering him in the transfer portal in case you wanted to know what what sort of correspondence goes back and forth. Yeah yeah yeah. So here's what it says so it has your name your NCAA ID your sport and your here's what it says. So it has your name, your NCAA ID, your sport, and your current school. And it says, Texas A&M University College Station has submitted your notification of transfer. Your information is now visible in the NCAA Transfer Portal. Please contact your institution's Athletics Compliance Office if you have any questions, if you want your

notification or transfer withdrawn, or to designate that you do not want coaches to contact you. Interesting. Note, the purpose of the transfer portal is to permit permissible communication with NCAA coaches once your name has been entered into the transfer portal. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. So that's what it says officially if you go into the portal. Interesting. Can I take us to a team that I don't know that we've hit on yet that was kind of like a portal sniper a year ago? Absolutely. Um, Ari, Ohio State just kind of just took what they want. We talked about it. Like they took Quinn, Sean Judkins and Caleb Downs more or less for fun.

Like they packed a heavy suitcase for a national title kind of trip. Um, doesn't go the way that you want it to the regular season. Lights delayed, flying standby could still get there. Let's just go ahead and walk this through and say they lose at some point in the playoff. I mean, call it the second round, whatever you want. How difficult is it then to convince the powers that be to pony up that kind of capital or whoever, you know, to go after a Caleb Downs this year, to go after a Quinshaw and Juddkins,

whoever that is in this portal next year, like does Ohio State play into the portal the way they did this past year yet again? Oh, I think they have to. Do they? Okay, yeah. Because look at how much they're losing. Yeah, that's a fair point. We talked about Jackson Arnold.

Listen, Ohio State is going to operate like Ohio State every year. That's how they operate. The thing that is most interesting about Ohio State in the current setting is that all the money they spent last year seems to be for nothing. And like you don't, and listen, you got a month here where things can feel a lot different

if things go a different way. But I think that's the challenging part, but that doesn't mean they're not going to do it again. The biggest challenge for Ohio State for me is there's really nothing left to fix the problem that they have. It's not that they don't have good enough players. Maybe they allocated their money poorly and didn't get a good enough offensive line or their kicker stinks or whatever. You can quibble. But nobody's ever going to assemble the perfect team that has no, you can spend all the money in the world, you're still going to be an injury away or a weird, weird thing away from having a, a blemish somewhere. They fired a bunch of coaches last year that were

and rehired them. They went out and got a quarterback. They went out and got the best safety in college football. They spent money on Quincey and Jenkins when they didn't need him. Like what is your number one path to fixing the team JD? Like it's like, I mean, they're going to have a ton of turnover. They're losing their entire roster. Basically. Yeah. This, this team was last year's Michigan where everybody came back. So they're going to have to go in the portal and fix some stuff and they will, but you enter the offseason depending on how this season ends feeling very... Last year when Ohio State won and sniped, people forgot about the Michigan game. Yeah. Everyone's like, oh god, they won the offseason. Look what they did. The juggernaut has been awoken. They are no more of this. This year

they're gonna do it, but it's not going to distract us from what happened. Interesting. Like at a certain point you have to have results and they haven't beat that. They have a senior class that's leaving Ohio state right now that has never won the big 10. Like think about that. They've never beaten Michigan. Like I didn't think the last time you could say that about a senior class is 30 years ago. So we're, we're, uh, as we go into this analyzing Ohio State, I don't think that

there's ever going to be a question that Ohio State's going to stop buying guys, or they're going to stop trying to have the best team. That's who they are. Is that enough is the question to me? Yeah, yeah. So a little news as all this is going on, because all this is interrelated. I mentioned Caleb banks earlier, the Florida defensive lineman who had played really well down the stretch and, uh, would Florida need to go into the portal to get an impact defensive

lineman because Kayla banks was going to the NFL. He is not, he has just announced that he is coming back. He had a really good senior. He had a great year. So that's a huge one because that type of person is hard to believe. Big game Billy baby. Look at this guy. They found Caleb Banks in the portal, but you know, not at the level that he was playing at the end of this season. To find somebody to replace that would have been difficult. Now they don't have to. Is there a team with higher stock in the state of Florida than the Florida Gators right now? It doesn't feel like it.

No, I think Miami still probably does, but the fact that Cam Ward's done is the problem, and everybody wants to play with DJ Lague. I think the two quarterbacks right now, if you asked everybody around, who would you want to play with? DJ Lague at Florida, Lenora Sellers at South Carolina. Yeah, absolutely.

Sellers was a redshirt freshman, so if he has a really good year, he could go to the NFL. Lague's got two more years at Florida, Lenora Sellers at South Carolina. Yeah, absolutely. You know, Sellers was a redshirt freshman, so if he has a really good year, he could go to the NFL. Lagway's got two more years at Florida, but both just young quarterbacks that kind of feel like we were only scratching the surface of what they can do. For sure. That's who, I mean, those are the two guys, if I'm a receiver, I'd be excited about playing with. Let me play with those guys. I'm curious to see what South Carolina does at OC without Dow Loggins. I wonder if that factors in. But NASA for Florida.

Thanks. That's huge. It's very big. So that is the news. But this is all, again, all of this is interconnected. We talked about the Carson Beck injury. What does that mean for Gunnar Stockton? What does that mean for Georgia in terms of do

they look at a quarterback in the transfer portal or do they have what they want on the roster to compete for 25 already? All of this will get figured out in the next month or so. We're going to see more names in the portal. The do not contact tag guys are going to start popping in in the next day or so because they're not telling anybody that they're going to the portal. They're going under the cover of darkness and their James you're going to pop in the next day or so, because they're not telling anybody that they're going to the portal. They're going under the cover of darkness, and their James is gonna pop in the portal, and we're gonna go, whoa, that guy's in the portal?

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