Andy & Ari On3 - Transfer Portal's LATEST Intel | QB Dominos left to fall in College Football

Episode Date: January 5, 2026

Join Andy & Ari LIVE on Monday afternoon at 3 pm et/2 pm ct to do a full run through of the transfer portal. As the portal opened on Friday, January 2nd, Pete Nakos joins the fellas to recap the entir...e weekend in the portal. Where will the top quarterbacks land? Find out here as Andy & Ari run through it all.(0:00) On Today's Episode(0:42) Presenting Sponsor(3:15) Intro: The Portal is OPEN (4:25) Pete Nakos Joins: Sam Leavitt Latest (10:25) Demand for QBs in Portal (11:30) Ty Simpson's Future? (14:22) Florida State at QB in portal (15:50) Cam Coleman's Landing Spot (21:14) Ethan Grunkemeyer, Beau Pribula (22:31) Trinidad Chambliss, Austin Simmons (24:10) Closing with Pete (24:26) Huel(26:17) Portal: Where will Leavitt Go? (29:04) LSU in the Portal (30:17) Portal as a whole (33:17) Trinidad Chambliss (44:21) PaniniAmerica.net (48:28) Josh Hoover to Indiana (59:45) Isaac Brown staying at Louisville (1:01:16) Texas 1:04:33 Conclusion Our show is also presented by BetMGM! If you haven’t signed up for BetMGM yet, use bonus code CFB and you will get up to a $1500 First Bet Offer on your first wager with BetMGM! Here’s how it works: 1. Download the BetMGM app and sign-up using bonus code CFB.2. Deposit at least $10 and place your first wager on any game.3. You will receive up to $1500 in bonus bets if your bet loses! Just make sureyou use bonus code CFB when you sign up! Make this college football season one for the history books. Make it legendary. See BetMGM.com for Terms. 21+ only. US promotional offers not available in New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (Available in the US). Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-327-5050 (MA), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). First Bet Offer for new customers only. Subject to eligibility requirements. Rewards are non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire in 7 days. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. Join On3 today and get one full year of access to The Athletic included! https://www.on3.com/subscribe/C Watch us on YouTube! https://youtube.com/live/8xVb8A84p7I Hosts: Andy Staples, Ari WassermanProducer: River Bailey Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On today's episode of Andean Ari on 3, the transfer portal is popping. Quarterbacks are committing. Quarterbacks are visiting. Dominoes are falling. On 3's Pete Nacos joins us to talk about the latest with Sam Levitt, who is visiting LSU, who has visiting Kentucky, DJ Lagway, Ashton Daniels, former Florida starting quarterback, former Auburn starting quarterback, both of them in play potentially at Florida State. So much going on right now, plus Trinidad Shamblis signs a deal, but will he be able to play in college next year?
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Starting point is 00:03:08 if you haven't signed up for BetMGM yet, use the bonus code CFB and get your $1,500 first bet offer today. Welcome to Annie and Ari on 3 presented by BetMGM, and the transfer portal is Hoppin. Ari Wasserman. We're going to be joined in a second by the great Pete Nacos, the man who knows all that goes on in the transfer portal, the man who now has six-digit X followers and a big old raise. Thank you to everybody who followed Pete on X on Friday. Ari, I want to talk about. But you be here.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Poppin. Before we get to Pete, we were warned that if he gets important phone calls in the middle of our show, that he would have to get up. And you understand that because he's breaking news. every five minutes of every, every day. That said, I am awaiting a very important delivery from Panini today. So if somebody knocks on my door, I have to get up and Pete has to carry the show.
Starting point is 00:04:10 So, you know, both very important things, you know, some more than others. I'm so happy he's here and there's a lot to talk about. So it's good to see you, too, by the way. It's been a while. It's been a while. Well, let's get right to Pete. Pete's it on 3HQ in Nashville. He's hard at work right now.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Pete, we got to talk. Let's just get right down to Brass Tech. Sam Levitt's at LSU right now. He visited Kentucky over the weekend. This is probably to me the most intriguing person in the portal. Lane Kiffin trying to get his QB. He had Brendan Soresby over the weekend, but then Soresby committed to Texas Tech.
Starting point is 00:04:48 So what is the latest on Sam Levitt? So here's what's going on with Sam Levitt. Will Stein, watch film with him. brought him to lexington had a great business at kentucky he was supposed to be at texas tech yesterday but then around three o'clock yesterday i had some phone calls and there were travel delays we can make it that what you will it's hard to get to love it pete i understand that but five hours later brandon sorsby commenced tex tech so from there he's visiting ls u today he landed around one central time i believe maybe a little earlier than that lane kiffin loves the idea
Starting point is 00:05:25 idea of Sam Leavitt in his offense. I've heard that from multiple people close to the situation that Lane loves the idea of what Sam Levitt could look like at LSU in his offense. Had even one source try to say that Sam Levin and Jackson Darts games are similar, and that's why it would be a perfect marriage. Everything LSU is doing right now is screaming that they want Sam Levitt to be their starting quarterback in 2026. We will see if Sam Levitt takes another visit after this. We'll see if Lane Kiffin can, you know, put a bow on this and land a commit or if the idea of going to you know Kentucky and playing with Willstein and Joe Sloan you know kind of
Starting point is 00:06:05 sticks out and he goes there well and this is this was a big swing by Kentucky because you and Steve Wilfong reported this on Friday saying hey Kentucky is in the mix for Sam Levitt this is a very serious recruitment how much did Did Will Stein have to do, when he got there, to get all the, the ducks in a row to go after one of the top quarterbacks in the portal? Because it sounds like that, you know, you have to have all the finances lined up, too. And they seem perfectly prepared to make this big swing. Yeah. So Will Stein and Sam Levitt have some sort of a relationship dating back to his high school recruitment.
Starting point is 00:06:43 I don't know all the ins and outs, but I know that there's definitely a mutual respect level with both parties. and you know this is going to be an off-season conversation I have with you and Ari but Kentucky is definitely willing to pay what is necessary now in the transfer portal and I think that has a lot to do the Will Stein hire and you know maybe some promises they made and stuff when they hired him but Kentucky is is they're killing it in the portal and they're doing a heck of a job right now and they really think that Sam Levin would be the piece to make sure that Will Stein's program is competing in the SEC in year one yeah well i've seen like the last time somebody from arizona state transferred to lSU it went pretty well
Starting point is 00:07:24 so like that would be a pretty good and i love hearing like oh they're in the office chumming it up watching film how much do you think that even comes into play here i know that people want to go to places that they're going to be successful but with somebody like sam leffitt who's proven huge asset how much of it is dollars and cents and how much of it is how do i fit here I think a lot of it is fit it's okay I'm not healthy right now I have the potential to get really you know healthy this spring get ready for 2026 who's going to make sure I'm in the offense that's going to make people look like an NFL giraffe prospect in 2026 and that's you know that's another thing I'm not the guy to answer that but I think Wayne kiffin's
Starting point is 00:08:07 offense is attractive Will Stein's offense is attractive maybe shannon Dawson's at Miami's offense is attractive, keep an eye on that. So we'll see how it all plays out. But yeah, I think all three offenses that I just mentioned would be pretty attractive for a high caliber, high caliber transfer quarterback. So I think you answered my next question, but does Sam Levitt have any more visits scheduled? Because you mentioned he was going to go to Texas Tech, the Soresby thing, and Soresby
Starting point is 00:08:34 was at LSU over the weekend, the Soresby thing came together in Lubbock. Is Sam Levitt going to look at any more schools beyond this? you just mentioned Miami. You know, it's really those two. It's Miami. You know, the other thing that we have to monitor here too is Dante Moore in Oregon, right? Dante Moore has the potential to be a top 10 draft pick if he goes in the draft. He's had an outstanding year.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Oregon is doing everything they can on the side to hold on and keep him. So does Dante Moore go back? Does he not? If he leaves, there's obviously going to be a need. need for a starting quarterback and you got sam levitt who's an oregon native who feels like oregon didn't take them seriously the first time around is it a homecoming um that's also a situation where we're not going to know what's going on with dante more until they lose the game which they really are not losing at the moment yeah they they have they play friday and if they win
Starting point is 00:09:32 then we won't know for another week and a half so that yeah that's that's a long time to stretch this out and i wonder with organ because like if you if you if you talk to the NFL draft industrial complex people they think Dante Moore could be a very high draft pick it feels like he might not even have a choice like he might have to go before he came on the show I went in red
Starting point is 00:09:54 draft stuff and Dante Moore is the Jets pick in every single one that I saw today right they're picking two two yeah yeah so it's what it's Mendoza and Dante Moore like one two yeah yeah isn't interchageable yes
Starting point is 00:10:07 yeah I don't know Andy if you've been reading it all the ones that I I've seen it before he gets mocked to the Raiders at one, but it really is one of those two spots. So, guys, question for you, mostly Pete. Okay. So Brendan Sorsby is making five mil. Is that the highest that a quarterback has commanded so far in the NIL era and how much will that income impact the rest of the portal moves? I don't know It is definitely the highest figure
Starting point is 00:10:45 But Carson Beck is going to pass that figure If they continue to win football games With the incentives in its contract So I think I'm going to have to do a deep dive on that To really answer that question But it puts them in the top echelon If not like, you know The top two highest big quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:11:01 In the history of college football Like were you blown away by that number? No I mean I've been hearing four for like you know I don't know three weeks so five trying to get the deal done trying to make sure that he doesn't go to LSU
Starting point is 00:11:14 that didn't surprise me I think the entire value of Shador Sanders rookie deal with the Browns is like 4.6 million it's it's more lucrative to be an old experienced college quarterback right now which brings us to
Starting point is 00:11:30 Ty Simpson I'm glad you took me there because Ty Simpson hasn't made any decisions yet he hasn't decided if he's coming back to Alabama. If he's going to the NFL, he's going to the transfer portal. But it sounds like the NFL is a very serious consideration right now. And Pete, I went down the Spotrack rabbit hole yesterday where I was looking at the rookie salary scale. And basically, like, to what you just said, if you are an old successful college quarterback with eligibility remaining,
Starting point is 00:11:58 you kind of need to be a first round draft pick to justify going pro at this point. That's what the dollar figures say. Q Rousseau just under the transfer portal talking about Alabama That's what I was a big part of defense last year Holy cow Yep four or five star All right Ty Simpson
Starting point is 00:12:18 He has a big decision to make Does he go pro? Does he go to the portal Returning to Alabama Doesn't exactly appear to be in the cards at the moment But you never know And I say that because there's a lot of talent In that quarterback room And they really want to see what Keelon Russell
Starting point is 00:12:34 and Allison Mack can do. I really don't know how things are going to shake out. Eileen, that he's going to enter the draft because there's just not a ton of quarterbacks going in the draft right now. But I don't know, I guess we'll have to wait and see how it plays out. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of an interesting gamble, too, because like you just said, it's more lucrative to be a high-end experienced quarterback. You would think that he would at least command three million based on, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:01 comps. And I don't know how that works. you're the expert on that. And if he gets drafted in the fifth round, I thought someone in Ty Simpson's camp, and he said that the portal stuff was being a little bit blown out of proportion. So that makes me think he's going to draft.
Starting point is 00:13:13 At the same time, why would someone tell me the truth about what's going on right now? Right. But sometimes people just want to be NFL players. I mean, Quinn Ewers could have come back for more money last year and knew it. Like, he knew he wasn't going to be drafted super high. He wanted to go to the NFL.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Did you know what he recently said about that, Andy? Somebody asked Quinn Ewers about that, and he said he would have transferred, but he didn't want to do anything that would tarnish his legacy as a longhorn forever. And that might sound cheesy, but like I kind of buy that. It's a personal choice.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Yeah. Yeah. And when you were started games in the NFL this year, he didn't do great, but if his goal was to be an NFL starting quarterback and see if he could be that, he got a look. So mission accomplished.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Yeah. And it sounds like to me from the, you know, just reading between, the tea leaves as somebody who's done this for a long time that the decision for Ty Simpson to go pro or return to Alabama might not entirely be up to him. No, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:12 With the Alabama part, yes. Keelan Russell told reporters that Roseville Media Day that he intends to be there next year if that tells you anything. Pete, Florida State's an interesting one to me. The pictures floating around with DJ Lagway on campus with Mike Norville today, just surreal, you know, and people who followed DJ. DJ, you know, his recruitment to Florida and all that. But Ashton Daniels, the former Auburn and Stanford quarterback, also someone who is, Florida State interested in.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Who else might be in the mix for that Florida State QB spot? So Anthony Clangier was there Sunday. He's at Georgia Tech today. Doesn't seem like that's a likely union. DJ Lagway is at Florida State. You would think it would make a lot of sense, but he's going to visit Virginia next, which kind of, you know, makes you wonder, like, so is it not going to work? got on forward state i don't know and then ashton daniels also arrived today on a visit the
Starting point is 00:15:07 the auburn transfer so i guess we'll see how it all shakes out i i don't really these guys running into each other like uh no they're setting it up to make sure that they're not in the same room at the same time the lagway after daniel situation like i think very much closer together than anthony and colandria and dj lagoe gotcha okay so that anthony clandre to georgia might make some sense, given that, you know, he's played in the ACC before at Virginia. He can run around like Haynes King can. That one, when I will see, because they hired a new OC.
Starting point is 00:15:42 They've got George Gottsey coming as their O.C. So he may run a little bit different than Buster Faulkner. Jacob in the chat. Latest on my Aggies in Cam Coleman, and I know Cam Coleman, it's quite a bit of, you know, wealthy programs going after Cam Coleman. So as of like 90 minutes ago, Cam Coleman was still wrapping up his A&M visit.
Starting point is 00:16:07 He had gone to Texas previously. USC, interesting wrinkle, they were supposed to host them the January 8th and 9th, but they picked up Terrell Anderson, the NC statewide out. So I don't think the Trojans are going to be a major factor in this thing anymore. Texas Tech, though, is supposed to get him on campus tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:16:28 It's sick. I'm sorry. I know this is all business. business, Pete's wearing a sport coat. How freaking sick is this? I DMD.M. Cody Campbell, if he watches the show, call me back. I want to talk to you about how invigorated you are to spend money. I am so...
Starting point is 00:16:43 Pete, I have his phone number. We can just text him if you need. We've traded messages, I think, so, like, it was easier. I saw the tweet of the Brendan Sorsby, New York Times advertiser on the New York City advertisement on the billboard. And I'm like, dude, tech is back, baby. like this is awesome like I know that like okay go ahead continue with the question but I get excited when I hear that can you imagine Sorsby and Coleman at tech next year they would have scored on Oregon well and that's that's what I wanted to ask Pete is like Texas Tech is clearly all in I wrote
Starting point is 00:17:17 this column after the Orange Bowl like hey what they did was not a failure at one in the big 12 it got got them got them to the playoff but they just needed to do it on both sides of the ball they spend on Brendan Sorsby, clearly they're willing to go in on, on Cam Coleman. I don't know if they'll be able to get him. But it seems like they're running this back, Pete, in an even more complete way. Well, you know, the interesting thing to me, too, not to go on nerdy on you on Front Seven college football stuff, but like, okay, so Texas Tech maybe had the best pass rush in the country this year, top five at least. Yep. They're arguably bringing in bigger frees on the defense line now than they already had. Like, Trey White, San Diego State.
Starting point is 00:17:58 They're trending to land Wendell Gregory from Oklahoma State. They've added multiple interior defense alignment. They just got Austin Romaine, who's arguably the best returning linebacker in the Big 12. I mean, and then like, you know, you look at other, like I was talking to Joey McGuire today. He's hoping to have, I always joiner back, the USC transfer running back.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Yeah, Quentin Joyner, yeah. He's expected to be back in the fold. Like there's like multiple massive pieces coming back at Texas Tech. And it's hard to think that they're not going to take a step, you know, another step in the right direction. And I don't want to butcher this gentleman's name, Matine Ibarogua, Ivoroba, correct. Wake Forest Transfer, because like I will say watching that team in person the other day, like I think I underestimated how big of a pickup Lee Hunter was out of UCF, the defensive tackle. He was awesome, absolutely awesome. So if they are loading up interior D line and edge rushers,
Starting point is 00:19:00 but they also then got the quarterback in Soresby. And we talked about the money of Sorsby, but I do think Sorsby gives them more than Baron Morton did. I mean, I would say yes, just because of how experience he is. He's a better runner, too. Yeah, he's a better runner. Will Haman's also going to be back at some point next year, so you're not Will Haman back in the fold.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Obviously, Brandon Sorsby's starting, but my point is. is that it gives them another, like, really good number two option. You know what really strikes me as interesting because I know that Cam Coleman is like a headliner, but like the inverse of that, which is Texas is losing a really productive receiver too in Parker Livingstone.
Starting point is 00:19:42 And I'm wondering if teams that are trying to take the next level, whether it means, you know, going from fringe of the playoff to playoff or from playoff inclusion to the national title game, if you are going to start seeing programs cut expenses on really productive good college players because they want to save their money for truly elite NFL talents. Like is that going to be a trend even at like the big time places like Texas who, you know, from what I understand is in a really good position to land him.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Like they want to go get the Coleman's of the world and not the living stones. I think that's part of it. I mean, Parker Livingstone is an NFL talent though. Yeah, he's an NFL receiver. And that's what I think is interesting. Because the first team that popped up was Indiana for him. So they brought him in on campus this weekend, and now he's Oklahoma at Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:20:36 And, you know, like, I don't, I think that they really want to make sure there's some elite wideouts around Archmanning in 2026. At the same time, though, I have every reason to believe that Parker Livingstone is just as good as any of those guys. So I don't know. Why is he leaving? I couldn't tell you.
Starting point is 00:20:53 I know he put out a statement saying, that opportunities changed. I was told by people at Texas that they offered them a contract. I don't know every detail there. Yeah, it sounds like that we're hearing two different stories on this, and we may not find out the real truth on this, because it may be everybody's going to stick to their own story. So interesting situation, before we let you go, Pete,
Starting point is 00:21:14 with former James Franklin quarterbacks. Is it James Franklin fired at Penn State, now at Virginia Tech? You've got Ethan Gruncomeyer, who finished the season is Penn State starter. Obviously, he's leaving because Rocco Beck is coming in to be Penn State starting QB. Correct. But you also have Bo Perbula, who backed up Drew Aller at Penn State before transferring to Missouri. He's back in the portal.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Could Franklin get both those guys at Virginia Tech, or is it maybe one of the other? No, the current expectation is Ethan Grugmeyer's going to land at Virginia Tech, and Bo Perbuella will land elsewhere. Okay. So you go with the most recent one. Now, where might Prubula land? because I thought he was playing well at Missouri. He got hurt there in the Vanderbilt game, but it seems like he could be pretty useful to somebody.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Yeah, Georgia Tech was an option. I know some other things have been, you know, thrown around. I know USF would love them. I think there's like some options out there. I guess we'll see. I know that Boca Vula did visit Virginia Tech, though. And yeah, but they're going to roll Ethan Gromweyer. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:23 One more thing. One more, yeah. You were you going to ask the Trinidad Shambliss question, Ari. So you go ahead. They're related. Go ahead. Just you take it. So Trinidad Shamblis signs a deal in the middle of the night, essentially.
Starting point is 00:22:38 That was the Pete Golding Trinidad and Tobago flag tweet at 2.35 a. Eastern in case anybody was wondering, Trinidad Shambliss signs a deal saying, hey, if I am granted another year of eligibility, I'm going to be at Ole Miss. Yeah. So that affects LSU, obviously. that affects old miss but what does old miss do at quarterback if trinidad gets denied um that's a great question i know they're evaluating the transfer portal market right now i know that you know duke knight has been tied to them but at the same time deuce knight still hasn't entered the transfer portal which is an interesting wrinkle i would tell you if i had to be honest here i think it's just
Starting point is 00:23:16 going to be a situation we're going to have to continue to monitor that that one's going to be really interesting and really until we get a ruling from the NCAA which could be fairly soon I don't know that there's much we can do plus Ole Miss still playing and Ole Miss could still be playing for another two weeks so we will find that out but Pete one more one more sorry since we're on the Ole Miss train Austin Simmons to Missou is that is that happening Austin Simmons is yet to enter the transfer portal uh it's not a paperwork issue we're just waiting on almost to put them in but yeah the current expectations is he's going to land in Missouri, if all it goes well.
Starting point is 00:23:56 That's good for them. I thought he was a good player. Yeah. Yeah. So Traydad Shambliss is so good, you couldn't not keep him there. And that makes perfect sense. Pete, go break some more news. We love you.
Starting point is 00:24:10 We'll talk to you again soon. I'll talk to you. Bye. I sent you some bangers on Instagram. Go check them out. We got to chew on some of these things that Pete has told us. But first, I want to tell you about Hewle. I had my lunch today was a bottle of Hewel Black Edition ready to drink.
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Starting point is 00:25:48 I haven't eaten in the fridge, Andy. I've got to take my daughter to a doctor's appointment after this, and I'm going to take one on the go, and I can't wait. I'm starving. They're really filling. They're great. They are a complete meal, and that's the part that I think I've tried these before, and you're hungry again after 30 minutes, but that's not the case with Huell.
Starting point is 00:26:08 It's good, long-lasting, and it is the nutrition, the protein, and the nutrients that you need in a real meal. All right, let us... dissect some of what Pete told us. I think we should start with Sam Levitt because obviously Lane Kiffin needs his quarterback. You know, you can't have a poet without his muse. Lane Kiffin is an offensive guru. We need to know who his starting quarterback is going to be.
Starting point is 00:26:36 And Sam Levitt is clearly the number one choice. They wanted Brendan Sorsby also if they could get him. But I think it was pretty clear from the moment Brendan Sorsby entered the portal that Texas Tech was going to be the one to beat. So the question is, can you get Sam Levitt, who, you know, you talk to like our guy Clark Brooks loves Sam Levitt. Clark's the stat cat. He's our big advanced stats guy at on three. Love Sam Levitt because he's accurate downfield. He throws downfield a lot. He's fearless. He can run the ball. He's everything you want in a QB. And I could definitely see him playing really
Starting point is 00:27:18 well in Lane's offense. The idea of him playing like Jackson Dart in Lane's offense, that feels like a pretty good comp to me. Yeah. I was in a group chat with my friends today and they were asking which quarterbacks I think would be best in the NFL and I'm like, I don't know anything about analyzing quarterbacks. That said, my understanding or thought process going into the portal season was that Sam Levitt was the best quarterback available. Now, I don't know if you agree with that and maybe Brendan Sorsby is a close second or first. than some people's minds, but I thought that Sam Levitt would be the one that was commanding a $5 million deal.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I think he probably is, Ari, because he's, yeah, he's got a few, he's got a few suitors right now. I mean, he's been on visits, he's been on a visit to Kentucky, he's currently on a visit to LSU. We know Miami's probably in the market, and, you know, we'll see. I mean, because if the, if the price is right and he decides he likes what he's heard from either of these places, he could just pick Kentucky or LSU and say that's it. Yeah, I mean, I think that, you know, frankly speaking, if Lane Kiffin throws on film of Jackson Darden says, let's do it, buddy, here in Baton Rouge, come do what the last Arizona state transferred in. I mean, that's a really compelling sales pitch.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Will Stein's going to throw some Bonnex film on and be like, yeah. Same. Same Zies, but. Yeah, no, I know. I think the LSU one would win for me, but I'm also an egotistical maniac. So, but I don't know, man. it seems to be a perfect fit to me. And I'm just very excited to see where he goes. But if Kentucky wins this battle,
Starting point is 00:28:54 that's just another illustration of the sport shifting. Because like five years ago, it's not even a thought. So the most interesting story of the cycle to me is what is Lane Kiffin going to do at quarterback? And I think this is something that makes a ton of sense. Yeah. And it's interesting. You know, Shea Dixon, our guy at the Bengal,
Starting point is 00:29:16 which is on three's LSU side. He posted an update today about what LSU is doing in the transfer portal. They've got a few commitments that they've obviously got a ton of visitors right now. And the LSU fans in the chat were freaking out because they're like, doesn't he know the portal's open? What's he doing? Why is he not lining up all these guys? One, I'd say there's probably some Ole Miss players that he intends to target when their season ends. So I'd say calm down on that a little bit.
Starting point is 00:29:46 But two, I think a lot of it is you got to make sure you get that quarterback first. Right. And this is a big deal because this is the person that's going to usher him into his new role. And like I don't even want to think about it. But like if LSU was eight and four next year, the world is going to end. You know, they need to have a pretty good start. And having the right guy catching snaps right out of the gate is the number one important piece. And I wouldn't be surprised that they were totally focused on making sure they got that done.
Starting point is 00:30:16 to text 9 421 in the chat dante more to the NFL sam to organ doesn't that make sense it does make sense in that sam levitt is from suburban portland and you know did not get recruited heavily by organ the first time around but maybe one of would think about wanting to go home but the problem with that is like if organ wins on friday you're not going to know anything about dante more for two weeks and dante more who has already made a decision that kind of win against the grain when he picked Oregon in the first place as a place where he knew he'd have to sit rather than go start immediately.
Starting point is 00:30:53 There's no guarantee that he goes out, although I will say where he's being mocked, if that is realistic, if NFL personnel people are saying the same thing, he's probably going to go. Well, if it's not him at two, then who are the other quarterbacks? Like, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Like, I don't know. I'm sure I'm just forgetting. If he goes pro, yeah. Yeah, just Ty Simpson, a top five pick? Like, I mean, I don't know. I mean, maybe they are just by default, but, you know, I think that it seems pretty clear, especially if Oregon wins another game, that that's where that's headed.
Starting point is 00:31:21 But like you said, Andy, it's kind of a tough tightrope to follow, right? Like, you can't walk down that with the hopes and faith that they're going to even want you. I'm Sam Levin, and I have something I feel good about at Kentucky and something I feel good about at LSU and maybe Miami's in that mix, too. I'm just, because Miami doesn't have to worry about that. Like Carson Beck is out of eligibility. So they're not hurting anybody's feelings if they actively recover. recruit somebody. Well, I actually think that Miami is a really important, like, subject matter, too, because it kind of is starting to feel like for Miami that while they're in this run, which is great, that they are in a very desperate place when it comes to getting a quarterback. And I don't know who it's going to be, but it sounds like they're not in pole position. I'm not sure they're as desperate as everybody thinks. I think they feel like Emery Williams could play. And he's still on the roster. So I don't think it's as as as as you have. You have.
Starting point is 00:32:15 to. But for LSU, you do have to get somebody out of the portal. And the Trinidad Shambliss thing, I think while Lane probably would love another year with Trinidad Shamblis, this probably helps clear the picture up because let's say Trinidad Shamblis had told Lane Kiffin instead of Pete Golding, hey, I'm going with you, but I need to know if I get my eligibility first. Like, you're in a holding pattern at that point. Now Lane can just go get the quarterbacks who are in the portal because he knows he's not getting Trinidad Jamblis. Trinidad Shameless, if he can play in college in 26, is going to Ole Miss.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Now, I didn't go to medical school or law school, but it seems highly unlikely that the NCAA would not rule in favor of giving him a six year, right? It seems highly unlikely that they would rule to give him the six year. He didn't have a catastrophic injury. Okay. So with how much money he's set to make? There will be a lawsuit if they denied it. There would be a very big lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Right. Okay. But him being able to come. One more than half of these. There's been a bunch filed already. And then some of them, the NCAA has lost and some of them, not lost, but injunctions have been granted. And some injunctions have been not granted. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:38 So we're sitting here right now for him returning to Ole Miss as the underdog. I would say it is just for them saying unless they just don't want to deal with the lawsuit because Tom Mars is his lawyer and Tom Mars is a wildcat. Like you don't want to deal with him. Like he's the one that was representing Houston Nut when Ole Miss fired Houston Nut. And man, he took it to him. So I just don't know. I'm not, this is my field.
Starting point is 00:34:07 But if you're getting paid a lot of money, does that make your lawsuit more compelling or rules rules. Well, the thing is, these rules, it has to be decided of whether they violate the Sherman Act or not. And so the money will be at least part of the factual basis for it, where what they'll probably say is, now, we don't know the terms of this particular deal.
Starting point is 00:34:31 My guess is they would make this deal an exhibit in that lawsuit. So let's say it's something similar to what Brendan Sorsby's getting. It's a $4 or $5 million deal. Then the attorney will say, here is what you are costing this person by acting as a cartel and, you know, coming up with these rules without the player's consent or without players, you know, input on them and unilaterally applying them and you are limiting their ability to earn a living. That's the, that, that, or that's the offense, the defense the NCAA would have in that one, which is interesting because it hasn't really had much. of a defense in most of these antitrust cases, but in this case I think it might, because I do
Starting point is 00:35:17 think the consumer, the end consumer of college football, all you guys out there in the chat, I don't think you want, maybe I'm wrong, but I don't get the sense that most consumers want open-ended eligibility. Like it seems like they want
Starting point is 00:35:33 kind of college-age people playing college football with a four-year, five-year career. Yeah. So, In previous cases, and I think this is interesting, Andy, sorry if you don't, if I'm dragging into a company. No, no. I think a lot of people are interested in this. So, um, so, so in the past when the NCAA has been sued over eligibility, um, question,
Starting point is 00:35:55 a lot of times it's been in regards to whether a person got injured or missed serious time or like, that's what they're fighting over. Should they get another year? But in this case, you would be fighting over just giving that person another year because you feel like it, right? kind of or is there any like he was at fair estate that shouldn't count like what like what's the actual basis that's going to differentiate shunned at chambers his lawsuit from anybody who's a fifth year senior who wants to come back the ones that are getting granted like the
Starting point is 00:36:26 Diego pavie when they got granted have to do with junior college have to do with them not counting the COVID year in junior college the way that the COVID year would have been counted in the NCAA and that's been the key difference this is not that. The ones that have been like, I was in college for four or five years, I played four years, and I just want more. Like Zichai Ziegler, the former Tennessee point guard, that's what he sued for. He played four years at Tennessee. He's like, I could just, I'd like to play another year in Tennessee. And they, they denied that pretty quickly. Okay. Now, what if the lawyer makes a case between, well, can you fundamentally explain the difference between junior college and fair estate?
Starting point is 00:37:07 that would be but but the difference is fairest state would have viewed the COVID year the same way as the other NCAA school so that you would have gotten a free year there now that's not an issue for Trinidad Chambliss I don't believe 21 22 23 24 25 yeah not an issue for Trinidad Chamblis because he was a freshman in 21 so he's not that doesn't apply to him so he he was at Ferris State for four years he red showed it his freshman year now in his waiver request they are saying in 2022 He had a situation with enlarged tonsils, which were making breathing very hard for him that may have cost him a chance to play.
Starting point is 00:37:47 We'll see how much that gets any traction. Remember, he didn't win the starting job at Ferris State until 2024. This would be pretty cool if the NCAA just was fielding a bunch of lawsuits from people who want to play longer, that kind of feel like people trying to get their medical marijuana cards in states where you can do that. It's basically what it is. In the glaucoma in 2003. Like, you know, I, but yeah, I, so where do you stand on it?
Starting point is 00:38:17 Do you think he should? So I think, I think I'm like most people where I would like this to, to be a pretty sensible system of, I think you should be five for five years. You get five years to play five. And that's it. And stop with the waivers. and stop with it because the waivers are what like that's where people get treated unfairly that's where they get applied unevenly to say you get five years to play five and and that's
Starting point is 00:38:44 your time to play college sports and now it may be that a judge or a court a judge could be a panel of judges on an appeals court they may say that does it doesn't matter what the consumer wants you can't do that to the workforce without their permission without collectively bargaining it like you cannot limit their ability to earn a living and there are people willing to pay them. So I don't know what the end result would be. This probably does need to go, you know, further down the line. I don't know if it was something that would go to the Supreme Court.
Starting point is 00:39:19 It might be something that that gets decided in the federal appeals, you know, in the circuit court, and then the Supreme Court either decides to take it up or just roll with what the circuit court said. But I would be fascinated to see it go through because I don't know what the answer would be this. I think I felt very confident that the NCAA would lose almost all of these other cases because they were all about money and are all about basically the cartel trying to keep people from making money. But their product, and what their argument was is the product that people want is unpaid athletes, which the ratings say differently, the athletes have now been paid
Starting point is 00:40:03 for four years and they're not changing so people are still watching so that's the question and i don't know the answer to that question i think five for five makes the most sense it worked for wendy's i can work for college football no that was but like yeah everybody because i do think that like if he played all the years that he was entitled to play and transferred up and his eligibility's up he should be finished like that's my stance on it right and that's the thing like i think there's a lot of will feel that way. Now, I would imagine Ole Miss fans do not feel that way right now because that man's magic and they want him back another year.
Starting point is 00:40:39 But on the other hand, I also could acknowledge how crappy it is that if somebody gets a late start in their career and they have a chance to earn money in a way that they weren't because like back in the day. Right. If somebody wanted another year, that was just for them to play more. Like, this is like a financial boon for him.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And like, if he is, and if he's not told or if he's told he can't return, he probably still will make some money in the league. So it's not total loss of income, which I think would be a good defense. But, like, there is a difference between coming back because you want to do it again and coming back because you could make life-changing money. And I think that this could be the first of many situations that lead to a reform in the way
Starting point is 00:41:18 the NCAA rules on eligibility. And here's the other thing. If they get to where they're collectively bargaining with the athletes, which I think is where they're headed, like when the plan to get a congressional law or, you know, a law passed by Congress, when that. fell through when the score act did not even go up for a vote in the house a lot more athletic directors conference officials those types of people started saying okay maybe we do need to collectively bargain this that is something you would know right around again now that there's
Starting point is 00:41:49 much money on the table that's being traded above board like it feels like you can't you can't have a system where this much money is being paid to a single player and not have rules or guidelines on how this is all going to work. And a CBA would allow you to have real rules and guidelines and it would be part of it. The people receiving the money need to have a seat at the table of those negotiations somehow. Correct. Correct. And so eligibility would be probably a fairly important part of that negotiation. So I think that they would agree to five or five, don't you?
Starting point is 00:42:21 I think the schools and the players would both agree to that. Yes, I think that would be a good compromise. And that way we can just quit with all the grab ass of the lawsuits. I mean, I'm sure Tom Mars doesn't want that to have. happen. Lawyers probably don't want that to happen. Listen, Tom Mars will find a way to get those billable hours in. He's really good at his job. Rex Connors is a guy. This is my co-host of the college football inquirer, Stephen Godfrey, alerted me to this one. Rex Connors is a safety at UC Davis. He was the 2025 preseason big sky defensive player of the year. He got hurt early
Starting point is 00:42:53 September and missed most of the season. They're trying to get him another year. And what's crazy about this one is so UC Davis played a game at Mercer in week zero there was terrible lightning it was delayed they had to just scrub the game they basically UC Davis needed to fly home they couldn't stay another day and so they were making Georgia like we got to get back across the country so they basically said no game was played doesn't appear in the record books or anything but the NCAA is is saying he played in that game to try to keep him from getting the waiver or as part of its reasoning for not giving him a waiver like that's the sort of thing that has to stop and so yeah if you had a if you said it's five for five especially if you collectively bargained
Starting point is 00:43:43 the five for five then nobody has a complaint like it's okay that's the rule and that's what we're dealing with also if the game isn't in the books it doesn't count that's not a game by the way agreed agreed but this This is the sort of crap that has been going on that makes people just want to stick it to the NCAA in situations like this. Maybe in the off season we'll do like most boneheaded grievances against the NCAA and what are we doing here type. They did ban cream cheese that one time. I'm pro cream cheese. Never forget. Never forget.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Ari, we got to talk about our friends at Panini, Panini America.net to get your collection started. I've got a couple packs of Prism draft picks here. And we've got, you know, Arch Manning and Travis Hunter on the cover of these. So that means I could pull an Arch Manning out of this, which, you know, I think that's, that's going to be a pretty big pull at this point in time. I think we're back to feeling those, like those are pretty big pulls. But look at this, Cam Scadamoo rookie card. Colston Loveland rookie card. Now, this guy has become integral, integral to the bear.
Starting point is 00:44:57 offense. Caleb Johnson, purple rookie card. Chris Tyree from Virginia. And our guy, Tess Johnson. Tess Johnson had a big catch yesterday. So, not bad. Not bad. What you got, Ari?
Starting point is 00:45:17 Oh, is that, is that, oh, what did we get? Is that special for you? That's not for me. I don't think I got that, did I? This is from Panini. This is purchased by me. from Panini and then sent to PSA and they rang on the door a minute into recording and you guys didn't know it because we've got a master producer named Riverboy
Starting point is 00:45:35 I'm pulling this open right now I got some more cards to pull here Elijah Badger rookie card whoa here we go so I have the I had the Arch Manning on campus of this is the Josh Allen on campus did you just pull that right now
Starting point is 00:45:53 from back at Wyoming yeah did you just come out of the pack you just ripped right Just came out of the pack. That's a really big card. Do you have a sleeve in a top loader? I do. I do. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Are they on your desk like me? Are they on your desk? Don't worry. Like me? Yes. I'm selling on campus, everybody. Yeah, I'm excited about this one. Oh, that's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I don't trust you to take care of that properly. Set it down on your desk gently. Yeah, I did. I did. All right, student orientation, Michael Williams. We'll finish this pack. Breschard Smith. And then a Dorian singer.
Starting point is 00:46:29 All right. What did you get back from PSA, Ari? The thing that I have been telling you guys all about since the day that that product came out. The cracked ice Jeremiah Smith. This is the color blast. Oh, color blast. I'm sorry. This is coming back from PSA.
Starting point is 00:46:51 And it got a really bad grade for some reason. So I'm going to have to rectify that. But this is, I think, one of the most beautiful. cards a human being can buy the color blasts that they have um i'm going to probably post that on twitter too i'm really proud of it it's a prize possession um i think he's going to be a pro bowler one day so i'm going to hold on to that for a long time so andy congratulations to you by the way congratulations to me on josh allen on campus heck yeah yeah anytime you can pull a case hit of a hall of fame quarterback you're probably in a good position so just to keep score andy has pulled a one
Starting point is 00:47:23 of one, Patrick Mahomes, and now a case hit for Josh Allen. Also, number one, number to 10, Pukanakua Gold. Yeah. I think that they're sending my packages to your house. It's been a mix up. So we're going to have to talk about that off. The Josh Allen, I especially love because I did a big feature on Josh Allen for Sports Illustrated when he was at Wyoming. When, you know, the Draftwick folks kind of knew who he was. The, you know, college football nerds knew who he was, but the general public had not really been introduced to him. And it was a really fun story. And Josh and his family were so cool and gave us tons of time.
Starting point is 00:48:00 And it was so much fun. He's been one of my favorite players since then. And so that one I am going to cherish. I'm keeping that. Yeah. I mean, for us, it's fun because you can collect people that you wrote about. That's what I like doing. So in people that are going to be worth a lot of money one day.
Starting point is 00:48:17 But, yeah, that was a, by the way, Panini, that was a great hat. Like, that was awesome. So because that was. real. I was zero motion. Speaking of people who are going to make a lot of money someday, I feel like if your hand selected to be Indiana's quarterback, you're in pretty good shape. We think Fernando Mendoza is going to be probably a top two pick in the NFL draft.
Starting point is 00:48:37 They've found his replacement. His replacement is Josh Hoover, who is moving from TCU to Indiana. Ari, this is one of the bigger moves because it's interesting. We know to trust Kurt Signetti now. We know he's going to put talent around Josh Hoover, but also kind of some pressure on Josh Hoover because you've got to follow up the Heism Trophy winner. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Pressure on Josh Hoover going to Indiana. I wrote a big column about Kurtzeghetti over the weekend. I read it. It was excellent. Thank you, man. I want to do another one because it's like the number one question with Indiana to me is, is IU sustainable. Is this a flash in the pan or is IU sustainable?
Starting point is 00:49:27 And if like Parker Livingstone and is visiting IU and Josh Hoover is signing there and Indiana has market itself and asserted itself as a top tier transfer portal destination and it becomes normal, that's how like in 20 years you have a program that kids don't remember was awful. Like, and I don't know if I'm getting ahead of myself, and maybe I am, but like, Indiana doing this this year is remarkable. It should change the way that we view college football and analyze the sport. And like maybe we're talking about two programs right now that are here to stay. Also, Texas Tech.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Texas Tech makes the playoff. Obviously, they didn't have the outing against Oregon last week that they hoped for. And what do they do? They turn around. They reinvest in their program and they get better in the places that they were weak. And they try again. kind of the same way that Indiana did. And like Indiana last year got their taste and what did they do?
Starting point is 00:50:24 They extended Kurt Signetti and gave him a huge contract and they're investing in NIL and they're going out and getting guys. And like, this isn't a, you know, people like you're excited because Josh Hoover went to IU. No, I'm excited or like what if Josh Hoover is not very good or like I'm excited that IU is like a normal destination for top tier quarterback transfers. This might not work. Not everybody's going to win the Heisman when they go to I. you. It's hard to win the Heisman. But the fact that like this news hits in the entire world's like, yeah, makes sense. Like that's how programs are built. Sustainability. Josh Hoover's the one Tennessee wanted last year when they lost Nico. Now, I don't know financially, you know, what would have been
Starting point is 00:51:05 a better move for Josh Hoover if he would have taken the portal when he was the apple of everyone's eye and was one of the only options. But I'm sure TCU took care of them a year ago. I'm kind of surprised to see that he entered the portal after that decision when he could have made a ton of money a ago not that he didn't but like IU is making a statement of like hey like we're Indiana and if you want to go play for the best coach or one of the best coaches in college football
Starting point is 00:51:28 and you want to win high level games like Indiana can look you in the face and say you want to make the playoff come to Indiana like let's talk about let's talk about weapons because we just mentioned Parker Livingstone who is supposed to visit Indiana he is not committed to Indiana at this point but
Starting point is 00:51:44 that that would be a big pickup for them Nick Marsh was Michigan State's leading receiver. 6-3, 200 pounds. He's headed there. Charlie Becker's back. Charlie Becker's only a sophomore. So he's back.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Saratin and Cooper probably go on pro, but I think Cooper has another year if he wants it. So, like, you're going to have weapons if you're Josh Hoover. Yeah. So, like, again, sustainability doesn't mean being the number one team in the country
Starting point is 00:52:12 and making it to the college football playoff semi-final. It's coming into the season where you're just, automatically the top 15 because people expect that from you based on the way that your roster is made up and based on the, you know, regular nature in which your coach has won on that, you know, like last year I made the mistake. I didn't put Indiana in the top 25 coming into the year because I thought last year was a fun story and that, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:34 things would kind of regress back to the mean. Well, what's happening here are a bunch of results that are going to turn the mean into something completely different than we've ever seen the program do. And it's so crazy to me because I actually think that of the last 20 years or the year, 20 years between 2020 and 2000, that Davosweeney was one of the most, if not the most impressive coaches in college football because he turned a program that was solid into something that was elite. What if Indiana goes from pure awfulness to elite? Like, I didn't even know that that was possible. Like, Kurt Signetti is doing things that are impossible and now he's showing you that he's going to do it again. This is why. The thing is like, one thing I wonder,
Starting point is 00:53:15 because I'm looking at Indiana's depth chart, and I'm just trying to wonder who of Indiana's freshman, redshirt freshman, sophomores that Kurt Signetti signed out of high school are going to be stars next year because remember, everybody's like, oh, they built it on the transfer portal. Well, kind of, but a lot of that success
Starting point is 00:53:34 out of the transfer portal is dudes that Kurt Signetti signed out of high school at James Madison. So they are partly a transfer portal program, but we've seen them be a very good developmental program because they developed people like Omar you know like like Aden Fisher like Elijah Surrat and I think Surrat started somewhere else before he went to to James Madison but they they they've developed these guys Carter Smith like they've
Starting point is 00:54:04 developed players they've gotten on their roster see here's the other thing that is going to be really interesting to me because I have gotten on my high horse and have written columns and have yelled into this microphone about how you have to still recruit at X clip out of high school in order to win a national championship. In Indiana, even in 2025, their class, did you look up what it was ranked? Do you remember off the top of your head? You care to take a guess if you don't know? Was it 46?
Starting point is 00:54:35 That's a really good guess. It was 53. Okay. So like you're not seeing all of a sudden Indiana turning into a absolute terror on the recruiting trail but they're number 31 in the 2026 class so far I know granted it's very early and things
Starting point is 00:54:52 can change but like if Indiana starts signing top 25 classes on top of being a sexy portal destination like Indiana is going to be really good at football for years to come so you know this has been really and like I mentioned it's a combination I just mentioned Carter Smith Carter Smith was a guy
Starting point is 00:55:08 who was at Indiana that they helped make better You know, Aiden Fisher was a guy they brought from James Madison. DeAngelo Pons was a guy they brought from James Madison. So these are people that they, this staff has had the entire time and made them better. So Charlie Becker is a guy they signed out of high school. And he's going to be really good.
Starting point is 00:55:30 He's already really good. Yeah. Kurt Signetti is the enemy of every coach that makes excuses. And he's also the best friend of every single football fan in America. because he inspires hope in a way that didn't exist even two years ago. Now, I do want to, I'm not sticking up for the excuse makers as much as we may be overblowing this a bit because Kurtzignetti is probably the best coach in America right now. There's only one best coach in America. So if you think you're going to hire your Kurtzignetti, chances are you're not.
Starting point is 00:56:09 You're going to try. We used to have debates about whether Nick's. Saban would win the national championship at Purdue, like in 2015. Remember a podcast? Like, this is what happened if Nick Saban went to Indiana. And now you know. People used to say no in that debate. Like, used to, used to debate, like if Indiana hired, if 2020, Indiana hired Nick Sabin
Starting point is 00:56:34 could they win the national title, I think a person could say no and have a really good case for no. Like, I know, it doesn't mean that it's easy. or that it's easily duplicated. But what it has shown is that it's impossible. I think there was a time in place not too long ago where if you were to told me Purdue, Indiana, Mississippi State, they got astrayed there, another than the SEC and have a lot of fans.
Starting point is 00:57:00 But teams that have Vanderbilt, all the teams that have been at the bottom of the of the rung for forever could win a national championship. The answer is like there's no, like remember we used to say, is your program of a national championship ceiling? Everybody in the Big Ten of the SEC now is the answer to that question is yes. Yes, if you have the right coach and the right willingness to spend money, we are talking about Kentucky trying to get Sam Levitt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:27 He may pick LSU, but he also might pick Kentucky. And I also think that people misunderstand what the word parity means or at least respect the fact that it has multiple definitions. One definition is can anybody in your conference beat anybody else in your conference? And I think there's been an improvement of the gap between number one and number 12, certainly. I agree. But this parody actually exists, which is everybody in a power conference has a seat at the table where if they invest properly, hire the right coach, and fund their NIL outfit can win a national championship. Like, that's real parity.
Starting point is 00:58:02 It's not so much about what happens in the season. It's every offseason when things get reset and 3,500 players enter the portal. can you turn a team from a seller dweller into a national champion or a team that competes for a championship? And that answer was no for the entirety of college football history up until 2024. It's not no anymore. That's wild. I don't think that people are like acknowledging it enough. I think if he keeps winning, I think he wins Friday night.
Starting point is 00:58:33 He hasn't done enough? Yeah. We probably don't talk about it enough. What if Indiana wins the national championship? national title. They are like, Indiana is the favorite to do it now. Indiana wins the football national championship. I would have probably bet my life in 23 that they could not win a championship in the next five years. My life. No pressure, Josh Hoover, as you replace Fernando does.
Starting point is 00:59:00 What were the odds of what? It might not even be up to it. It might already be solved by the time he gets there. What do you think the odds would have been to pick Indiana to win a national championship in 2026 the day before Kurtzegh Dedy got hired. They would have been a million to one. Like, I don't know the lottery? Yeah, probably. It would have been the ultimate sucker bet.
Starting point is 00:59:27 There's just no way. It's not possible. But he makes it possible. You're exactly right. Oprah Winfrey, Giff. That's right. That's right. Ari.
Starting point is 00:59:40 We talk about all these people moving. Sometimes people say they're going to go in the portal and they don't. Isaac Brown, the running back at Louisville, the star running back. He is staying at Louisville. It was reported earlier that he was going to go in the portal. And he's now decided to stay. And that's a big keep for Jeff Brom and company. They now have a quarterback to go with him, by the way.
Starting point is 01:00:01 It is Lincoln Keenholz, the former Ohio State backup, is the guy that Jeff Brom has selected to be Louisville's new quarterback. and I trust Jeff Brom's judgment on quarterback, sorry. He's just one of those like, oh, yeah, you picked him, then I see what you see. Yeah, I don't know how real the quarterback battle was with Julian Sand. I've been told repeatedly from everybody that it was a real quarterback battle. So if that's the case, that makes me feel good. And this is a quarterback that Ryan Day evaluated out of high school liked enough to offer. and had played and was engaging in a quarterback battle with a five-star all the way to the end.
Starting point is 01:00:43 So, you know, I know I had doubts about Miller Moss last year and I thought he played quite well this year. I'm very curious to see how this goes. Is this closer to Miller-Moss type production or is this more like a Devin Brown scenario? We'll see. But I think it's, you know, like you said, if Jeff Brom's interested, I'm interested. Yeah, I'm fascinated to see that. And getting Isaac Brown back, obviously, is massive because you're going to be able to run the ball. And that is huge.
Starting point is 01:01:15 One more, Sailor Joe sent this earlier in the show. I did want to address it. I feel like Texas is a little behind. Is Sark about to fumble his own career in arches by not having superstars signed already? Sad about Livingstone and Moore. NACOS give me some good news. Okay, like here's the thing. You still got Ryan Wingo.
Starting point is 01:01:30 You may get Cam Coleman. I don't, this, it doesn't all happen instantly. Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it's not going to happen. Cam Coleman hasn't made a decision. Yeah. It's January 5th. There's a lot of time left. And who knows, maybe somebody else will leave in the middle of February or March and, you know, make our lives easier the way that Nico did.
Starting point is 01:01:58 When did Nico, when of that all, what month was it? That was in the spring. That can't happen this year because you don't have the spring portal. Oh, man. Well, we can file a lawsuit. Tom Mars. Come on, no. Here's the other part of that.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Like, remember when you had a situation with Wisconsin and Miami, and it was a case of Wisconsin saying, we won't let you enter the portal and just withdraw. Yeah. And go into the portal. So. Yeah. so that's or you don't worry about the portal you just withdraw and show up at another school
Starting point is 01:02:43 I'm not sure they can do anything to stop you from that yeah somebody's gonna try some grab asses off season I can't wait to see it oh 100% there's gonna be some guy who loses a competition in spring practice and is like okay we're we're done with that yeah but Xavier Lucas remember Wisconsin wouldn't put him in the portal and he's like cool I'm withdrawing And I'm going to enroll at Miami. You do something about that. They ended up suing Miami that ensues Avery Lucas. What was the result of the lawsuit?
Starting point is 01:03:18 Still pending. Not optimistic Wisconsin's got a chance there. Okay. So it's pending in litigation. Yes, yes. Yes, we don't comment on pending litigation, Ari. Well, we do. We comment all the time on it.
Starting point is 01:03:30 But the people involved usually don't. So, but billable hours will remain undefeated. We do know that. the transfer portal remains undefeated as a source of interest so far this is everybody is just asking you know everywhere you go who's you know where's this guy going to land where's this guy going to land this is fascinating to watch yeah yeah and you know we have a whole week of it so uh more than that i mean yeah the portal's open for most of the month and we'll see if there's Like, will there be a second wave when some of these big stars say, all right, here's where I'm going?
Starting point is 01:04:10 Do we then see people, like, with the quarterbacks, if somebody signs at a school and there was a younger quarterback who was kind of waiting to see who his team was going to get, does that person jump in? Like, these are all questions that we don't know the answers to yet. It's called the ripple effect. That's right. Or the domino effect. Either one. So. Yeah, the domino effects better.
Starting point is 01:04:31 We will have a lot to talk about. on Tuesday's show Jake Crane joins us from Crane and Cone our new family members here add on three you're gonna love Jake if you don't already watch a show
Starting point is 01:04:45 I'm gonna give you many many reasons why you should but he's awesome started his career as a coach and then got into this side of the business and has some fascinating insight into how all this works
Starting point is 01:04:59 and I know he's got some some strong opinions on some of these transfers. He's an Auburn grad. Love to hear what he thinks about the Tigers. Not those Tigers. Not Lane Kiffis Tigers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Tigers. The Tigers and the Tigers. Ward Am Eagle. It's just easier to say it that way. Yeah. Yeah. We have a lot of questions for Jake. But we will talk to you tomorrow and we'll be there again with the up to the minute
Starting point is 01:05:29 transfer portal intel that you've come to expect from on 3. Talk to you soon.

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