Andy & Ari On3 - Week 7 Picks | Alabama's Terrion Arnold | Texas A&M-Tennessee | Oregon-Washington | USC-Notre Dame

Episode Date: October 12, 2023

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Welcome to Andy Staples on three. Happy Wednesday. That's right. It's the day we make our picks. The biggest games of the week. There's some big ones too. USC, Notre Dame, Washington, Oregon. Very special guest picker, T-Bob Aver, former LSU center, current radio podcast, television, you name it, host.

Love when the offensive linemen hit it big. But first, we have an absolute treat. One of the best and funniest players in America, Terryon Arnold, Alabama cornerback. You saw him last week going viral talking about getting chewed out by Nick Saban. That barely scratches the surface. This dude is hilarious, and he is happy to explain to you everything that is going on in the field, including all the trash talk. So as Alabama prepares to face Arkansas this weekend, we sit down with Terry on Arnold.

Terry, and you've become the guy, the go-to guy to talk about Alabama football. Like how much trust is required to be that guy? Because I know if you say sort of the wrong thing, that you don't do any more interviews. No, you don't do no more. But you've gotten away with a lot. I have. I would say

just from talking to Josh, talking to Alex, I kind of go up there and I kind of take a saving approach. From doing interviews now to having to do other interviews, you got to think about it. As an interviewer and as a person who's recording there or fans who's watching it,

they don't want to hear you get up there and just say the typical thing like, man, you know, we had a good game. I was able to go out there and execute. We were able to make plays. We work on this. No, they want you to talk about the game, talk about in detail, walk them through, make them feel like they were there. And just a person kind of growing up, my granddad, he was kind of like a – I say he was kind of like he did.

But now my granddad kind of like a storyteller. Yeah. And I've always been one of those guys like, you know, when you go to family reunions or you're around your friends and stuff, when you hear stories about people, it make you excited. And, like, my teammates always say, man, yeah, Terion, you're going to be the guy. When they make a documentary or they make something on this team, you're definitely going to be the guy who they make a documentary or they make something on this team.

You're definitely going to be the guy who they following around. Oh, exactly. So was your grandfather the guy at any family gathering? Like everybody would just be gathered around him. Oh, man. Man, my granddad, it will be him. Obviously, he blessed the food. And then when it just came to like stories, it would actually be his brother, my uncle Andre andre my uncle andre like you know how it is that family functions man people they drinking and stuff when they when he kind of get that drink in them did you not man next thing you know he get the man your granddad was this i remember this i remember this and it just be like i was the type of person i'd be like yeah tell me more like i'm i'm i'm intrigued hear it. Like I'm one of those people. So like when people,

my granddad always told me just kind of like how to say in the Bible, be quick to listen and slow to speak. So, I mean, the reason why I'm able to tell or I think it's sell during the media is because I listen a lot and really observe a lot. Well, and you do take us behind the curtain a little bit, but you don't give away anything that's a state secret. Like when you, okay, so you went viral last week for talking about getting yelled at by Coach Saban.

Yes, sir. But you didn't say, I'm very careful not to say what he said. Exactly. But that is an experience because like we all see it on TV and we just wonder like, what is that like when you are that guy like when in that moment did you have any like do you even think that oh my god millions of

people are watching me get chewed out by this man or or is it I just need to time up the blitz on the motion better no clue it was literally just I need to time up the blitz on the motion better because I'm thinking about it in my head obviously it's a game going on. It's a game being played. If I time up that blitz on the motion, I get the set. We get off the field on third down. They don't keep driving. They don't get a field goal. So just thinking about things like that, playing the game inside your head.

And honestly, like, it comes in practice. Like, most people don't understand, like, Coach Saban, like, he is a character. Like, the guy is funny. Like, he's a funny guy. So, like, I mean i mean people look at it like oh he was getting chewed out he was getting yelled at now it's all a tentative practice he'll chew you out he'll yell at you then he'll make a joke out of it so i mean like i said you should be worried when he's not saying something to you we'll be right back with more from terry on arnold But first, a word from Bird Dogs. That's right. Bird Dogs is the place for shorts, pants, joggers that help you live a life of maximum

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yesterday, going out our breaks, come on three, get out the break. Get out the break three. It'll be like people would say during punt, when we do that period, Kool-Aid is the punt returner, so they'll be down there.

I don't know what they be talking about, but they just be down there, I mean, laughing it up, laughing it up. And then Kool-Aid will be like, oh, man, Coach, they're your son, man. What you going to do with your son? Or I tell Kool-Aid, like, man, go to your dad, man. You know Coach saved me your dad. And, like, we make those kind of jokes with him because, obviously, like they said, before we came, it was Pat Sertan.

Before him, it was Minka. And just having that type of relationship with him, I feel like he kind of jokes with him because obviously, like they said, before we came, it was Pat Sertan. Before him, it was Minka. And just having that type of relationship with him, I feel like he kind of does look at himself like that. I won't say like a father, but like a godfather kind of. Minka's teammates would say that their personalities were exactly alike. Like both of them are kind of obsessive. Like I wish I could remember. One of the D-linemenemen was explaining that we were doing interviews and people had their cell phones on the table to record.

And he took it and made it slightly off center. And he's like, if you had this in front of Minka or Coach Saban, they would fix it for you. They would make it look perfect. Are you and Kool-Aid like him or is it not necessarily? I'm glad you asked that question. Now I can explain it to you. The one who is like Coach Saban the most, as far as being a perfectionist,

as far as not laughing, very, very serious, Caleb Downs. Okay. Now, the people who get Coach Saban going, bring out the personality in them, me and Kool-Aid. Like before a game, when it comes time before a game, because Caleb is my roommate. So that's my Lank brother right there. There you go.

Lank, baby. We're going to talk about Lank, too. We have a lot – I have Lank questions. Yeah. So that right there. And J-Mill, too. Speaking about J-Mill, like, J-Mill, he bring it out of Coach Saban, too. And obviously we started the Lank thing in practice.

Like, I told him yesterday in practice, I'm going to Lank you, boy. You know, he completed it. He completed the fast. He told me I was like that. But back to what I was saying, like Coach Saban, the one who is most like him and similar to him would definitely be Caleb Downs. Kool-Aid and I, we bring the personality out of him. Malachi, he's kind of like – Malachi is the leader of the group like Malachi

don't get too high you don't get too low you just chill like almost like the person who the chaperone like he'll just be like what these guys doing like he's just chill you know you have to worry if Malachi gets upset or exactly and Malachi like it would say practice Malachi versus game day Malachi whole different person I kid you not. Before the game, we coming out there. As we're walking out, Anais was actually stretching. He's stretching. Malakai walked by him. We're going to see what you want.

We're going to see what Coach Saban want. We're going to find out what Coach Saban want tonight. First play of the game, man, Malakai blocking. We're going to see what he want. I'm like, man. I'm like, just give me the call man you do all that give me the call so I mean when I say like a guy who literally gets people going like Malachi has grown as far as leadership and maturity and I wish people really knew how great of a job he's done

like you can honestly say when you come here and you show up as far as being a leader like you can't have any bad days people don't point the finger at you because i know like sometimes he'll tell me like man t hurry up man jog to the ball next play he don't jog to the ball hey kyle you just told me you jog to the ball you're talking about me so i mean just as far as that and that approach i mean he's done a great job believe me like the guy is a true professional so we do need to talk about the lank brothers because jaylen milrow and you lank brothers let the naysayers know so then when did y'all come up with that came up with it last year during the locker room we were just sitting around we were talking we was like man we need something that

that's gonna get us going kind of like that that'll just keep us going obviously bryce was the quarterback then and bryce very very humble nonchant, and just as far as never too high, never too low. J. Mil, total opposite. J. Mil in the locker room, center of attention. In there, player meetings. He going to get up. He going to talk, say what's on his mind. So just as far as that being like when we came up with Lank, it was like, man, we got to really go out here and let these naysayers know because they doubting us. And then it really came into play, obviously,

when we didn't make the national championship last year and just hearing all the outside noise going into this year, like we really started to put it together. Like it started to really embrace it. And it's real. It's genuine because like some of your predecessors at Alabama in, you know, like 2016, 17, that that era they'd be like nobody respects us and I'd be sitting there doing the interview like literally everyone respects you we picked you

number one but but this year it wasn't like that you were not not picked to win the SEC and not so you're dealing with all that stuff it's real now did you did you ever hit coach Saban with a lank has have you hit him with that at practice? Have you explained it to him? No, I haven't got a chance to explain it to him yet. But as far as, like, we'll be doing – we could be doing, like, a drill. I could get an interception or something. Lank, Coach, lank.

And he'll just look at me like, huh? I haven't got a chance to actually explain it to him. Obviously, I'm waiting. That day going to come. And when I explain it to him, he'm waiting that day gonna come and when i explain it to him he'll probably be like okay three well he's got a four-letter word that he likes a lot and that's d's has he hit you with one of those oh man hey he hit me one of those yesterday so it's tearing you like wendy's Yeah. How about D's? Yeah, exactly. So, Marlon Humphrey is apparently to blame for that.

For that right there? He introduced it, and Coach Saban's like, oh, I didn't do this in elementary school, but I will embrace it now. So, yeah, you have to hit them with lank, and then you can have a lank off and a d's off and you gotta go these are exactly i mean you if he's gonna hit you guys with that so often you do need to have to you gotta have a comment well or you gotta be able to set him up when he least expects it for once yes he'll appreciate it yeah these nuts guy appreciates

when someone gets him what did he worry about that so i probably should ask you at least one football question i know uh we were talking about malachi before he's he's you know we saw him get hurt in the in the a&m game not asking you to break any news but you have to prepare at corner and star anyway every every week what is that like juggling both of those? T Rob did a very great job preparing me during the off season, obviously creating like position versatility. It's not really something as far as it's a struggle. Cause think about it.

When you play corner, a guy takes a reduced split. You're playing off, playing off man. Only thing that stars, you have to over communicate. Obviously you're an off, playing off man. Only thing at the start is you have to over-communicate. Obviously, you're an apex player. You're in the run game more.

And I played safety in high school. So I'm kind of – like I was telling Malachi, I was like, y'all going to see. Y'all going to see. Because like Brian Branch, as physical as he was, you know, BB had those hits where it was like, ah, Lee. I told Malachi, I was like, you're going to see before this year over. I said, and when I do it, I'm going to look at you.

I said, I'm going to look at you. Just as far as the preparation and going into that, I would say it's easy because who I'm going against in practice, going against guys like Isaiah Bond, Kobe Prentice, Jermaine Burr, Malik, Ja'Cory. So they do a very great job preparing us. And honestly, I would say when we do like competition and stuff, like T-Rob says, it doesn't matter how tired you are.

It's not like fall camp where you get to go against the offense all the time. These reps are very, very important. And we go out there and like I said, during the game, how we trash talk, we go out there. Hey, man, you know, put 20 on this rep, right? You catch this ball right here, I'll buy you lunch. And different things like that, like it just gets you going in practice. When you're talking to those guys in the game, because I heard you talking about that in an interview earlier,

and you said sometimes it's not really even trash talk, that you're just talking to them. I was going to Evan Stewart. I was going to Evan Stewart, first play of the game. Jimbo Fisher's son plays high school football with my brother. He's the kicker. So I literally saw Jimbo during the summertime when he came out there to visit his son, and we were just out there.

We were talking and stuff. I said, you know, when we play, it's going to be a good one. Atmosphere is going to be crazy. His son right there, he was like, yeah, you're going to see. I'm going to be right there with my big fish chain on, and I'm going to be looking at you talking. I'm going to be talking. Literally, when I went out there, first play,

I looked to the sidelines. Ethan right there, he was like, what's up? What's up? So then I looked, and Evan, as Evan was jogging on the field, he smiled at me. So then as he smiled, I looked at Evan. I was like, it's going to be a long day today, Ethan. It's going to be a long day today. Then he looked back at me. He was like, it's going to be a long day today for you.

So just those kind of things. And actually, when I was playing Gardner Nias, I thought he was going to obviously like set the tone. I'm waiting for him to say something off the rip. Never said nothing. And we got into like a pushing and shoving match on the block. He's like, I'm coming. I'm coming.

And then we lined up. This was like, I think, a second down when I lined up in the slot. I'm playing six yards. I'm a man to man. As I'm a man to man, I'm looking, I'm like, I'm a man to man, it's you versus me. And then like you could tell when he got the false start penalty when he jumped, I said, you're scared, you're scared. You're scared, I was like, you're scared.

So just like those subliminal messages and then even on the chop ball, like when he beat me on the chop, I thought I made the play. Before I celebrated when he caught right there, I oh you almost had it gotta be quicker than that so when you say when you say i'm in man do you ever do that when you're actually when you guys are disguising something you're gonna be you're gonna wind up in zone like just a mess of their head man like me like kool-aid doing it. Like, we align up, but it be a little tight, little split or something like that. Man, shoot, man. I got you right now.

It's you versus me. Now we can be in cover, too. You got to play the subliminal mind game with the guys. Because, obviously, think about it. When you in man-to-man and they know you in man-to-man, then it can be problems. Like, you don't worry about what the receiver is doing. You worry about what the offensive coordinator up there is seeing. Because they see every rep. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah don't worry about what the receiver is doing. You worry about what the offensive coordinator up there is seeing because they see every rep.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Speaking of that, speaking of offense, I got to ask. I saw your interception against Ole Miss. I saw the spin move. Do you ever talk to Coach Saban? Do you ever show him what Travis Hunter does at Colorado and be like, listen? Man, I told him that.

It's crazy you said that. I literally told him Kendrick Law when he got hurt, not got hurt, but when he was out versus the USF game. I'm the backup on kickoff return. I told him, I said, hey, I'm going to maximize my opportunity. If they kick this ball to me, I'm bringing the ball out. I had told everybody that. So when I lined up back there, everybody that stood up, they like,

oh, he's ready to bring it out. Man, I went like this. When I seen him running down, I looked at Ja'Cory. I'm like, oh, man, I ain't bringing it out. So then I told him, I said, if they kick this ball to me, I said, no matter what, I said, I'm bringing this out for real. I'm bringing this out for real. And I said, I'm ready to make the play.

I'm ready to make a big play in the game. T-Rob looked at me right before he said, go crib it. I'm geared to. So, man, we break it down. We break it down on like pack because we're packed together in special teams. I said, we ain't breaking it down on that. We're breaking it down on score. I said, score on three.

One, two, three, score. So, we run out there. We actually called return right. I kind of feel like me playing offense, going to a smaller school in high school, I just resolved it back to my way. We ran return right. I seen an opening. I ran return left.

Just things like that. Like I tell Jose, and I was like, man, I feel like I'm the most dynamic player on the team with the ball in my hands, if we're being honest. But you got to think about how he sees it. He's a defensive specialist. And as they would say, you got a lot of guys who are six foot one six foot two 190 pounds who play receiver you don't have many guys who can line up and stop those kind of guys so well and and there's a lot of nfl gms that would would say the same thing

we've all seen the salary scale so terry and i thank you so. We got to have you back because I, I want you telling stories all day. That is the best Terry. And thank you so much. Appreciate it. That is Terry on Arnold who has a great future in any documentary about Alabama football. He's going to work in television if he wants to,

but he's going to have a while because he wants to, but he's going to have a while because he's one of the best corners in the country right now. He's going to be one of the best corners in the NFL when he gets there. Just a delight. And hopefully we'll be having him back on throughout the season because he is a ton of fun. Right now, we got to get to our picks though, Willie. We'll be picking that Alabama picking that Alabama Arkansas game. All these lines are brought to you by FanDuel. That's right. FanDuel.com slash staples is where you go to sign up. And when you do your first $5 in bets,

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We are joined now by T-Bob Hebert. You can hear him on 104.5 FM in Baton Rouge ESPN Radio. Also on the Snaps podcast with our pal, Aaron Murray, the former Georgia quarterback going live every day on YouTube now. And, uh, Andy,

there is, uh, because I am the sec town bicycle and everybody gets a ride, um, on stadium. Me and AJ McCarron now do a daily show uh 1 30 to 2 p.m so you can find that on youtube or if you get stadium in your cable package although aj literally signed with the bingles the day before we were supposed to start the show so we only get aj tuesday and friday

but i've had a lot of fun otherwise my guy hudson mason and then i love um sec mike who him and cousin chain hosts that sec podcast they're great so it's a bit of a rotating door there but uh yeah check that out as well very nice you are all over the place i don't know how you find time to to watch all these various star wars vehicles and uh play these video games and and you have young children like i don't know how this works i've been a firm believer my entire life andy that when people say they don't have time you actually do it doesn't matter what you want to commit your time to um this is the first time where i'm kind of putting that to the test. Right. I mean, now, like you said,

with three kids and with the three shows is the first time where, yeah, like, like, like, yeah, like I watched Ahsoka, but you know,

that's like 40 minutes every Tuesday. Right. So it was like one thing. Okay. I get, I get, I could easily do that. Um,

my video game is at an all time low right now. Like I've been playing Baldur's Gate 3 for like two months now, which is just a stunningly good game. But I'm talking like 20 minutes a day, 30 minutes a day, and that's like a 100-hour game. So I'll probably – I would almost guarantee I will still be playing Baldur's Gate 3 by the time we are crowning a national champion. So I haven't got any big sessions in but you know we we every night

whatever whatever you just do it just do it just keep drinking coffee just keep taking well you also have my favorite show is is whiskey and wine that you do with matt moscona hell yeah dude after every lsu game where one or both of you may be hammered by that point and it's especially good after an lsu loss i have to say i know it's painful for you but i i did enjoy it and we'll talk about this when we talk about auburn lsu when we pick that game but you on snaps the other day mentioned something aaron and and it was i think you were getting a dig in at the georgia fans but you were basically saying how much you enjoy getting to feel again yes as an lsu fan because lsu lets you experience a wide range of emotions every single game it's um it's something that i used to attack alabama fans with was kind of like you know these takes evolve over years and you refine them and chisel away and find the heart of the take.

So it used to be Alabama, right? You say LSU is Greece, right? Sometimes there's beautiful art and passion and success, and other times there's just complete economic collapse, whereas Alabama was gray and unfeeling, the USSR of college football. And so a lot of that is still true, but it's become even more dumbed down, I've realized, even through this season. And really one of the things that jumped out at me,

I was doing a hit with Hester and Bobby Carpenter on Sirius. And I was asking Bobby about the Ohio State-Notre Dame game, and I was like, dude, that had to feel incredible, right? Like, what a game. That's awesome. And he basically said, no, he hated it. Like he hated the entire time feeling like his soul was about to rip out. He hated the stress, the anxiety of it. And it just struck me that there are fan bases that are not used to that,

that legitimately are not used to that. And granted Georgia for a long time has been, so they're a bit newer to this but the last i mean this season what is georgia stressed a few minutes at auburn like and so it made me realize no i i and it's less than anybody else it's more about just me personally i love that feeling i love star wars i love lord of the rings i love video games the Rings. I love video games. I love entertainment. I love creativity. I love art. Nothing on earth makes me feel the same way that a live college football game does in which you have a rooting interest. It is insane. The emotional ups and downs that you will feel the depths of despair, the heights of joy. And so, yeah, as you get older, I think you start to appreciate more and more things that make you feel something when you're passively consuming it. And I just think there's no higher form of entertainment than a tight four quarter, um,

college football game. And, and the great part about this LSU team is like, if you're going to go through that, you at least want to go through it. Just snorting mounds and mounds of offense. Right. So it's like, okay, you don't want to be Iowa. You want to be LSU or USC. Yeah. Yes, exactly. Right. If I'm going to go through the crap, uh, I might as well do it while feeling like, uh, you know, my heart's going to explode. And I'm just like, just racking up touchdowns time and time again. I don't know if you've watched the Continental, the show that's based on the John Wick Hotel.

I've heard about it. It's a prequel, but there's a moment in the third episode where action is allowed on Continental grounds, and which is a hotel for assassins, essentially. And so the red light goes on and the first thing you see is this guy snorting a mound of something off a sword and that is what i imagine you were like watching lsu missouri on saturday i mean that's how it

feels and then lsu's they're they're they're doing the uh they're going the extra leg of like just getting down by two touchdowns immediately. You know what? Let's spot the other team two tuds and then let's just start this like slow climb back and so all of a sudden every single offensive play feels

like there is no margin of error or you're dead and again it leads to frustration without a doubt right but it just it it's I always go back to the old Pacino quote from two for the money you know it's the losing that makes you know you're alive like like it's it's that bad feeling as well as the good that gives me life it's the best form of entertainment there is so um let's pick that game now let's let's pick Auburn at LSU now

because okay the question I have for you with Auburn and LSU can LSU make Auburn look like it has a functional passing offense is LSU's defense quite that bad uh well LSU's defense is that bad I don't know about like it like in the specifics of your question, we'll get into that. But if we want to talk in like general is LSU defense that bad? The answer is yes. Um, so the athletic covers stop rate every week. I think it's a great single statistic. Yeah, exactly.

Right. Like, um, when a team touches a ball opponent, do they score or do they not? LSU is dead last in the power five 128th in the country. The Tigers have a 42.9% stop rate. So right now, if you touch the ball against LSU, you have a significantly better than a coin flip chance of scoring.

It's kind of hard to fathom. Again, and I want to highlight this. You think USC's defense sucks? I think to highlight this not pretty like, okay. You think USC's defense sucks. I think they're like thirties in stop rate. Maybe after this weekend, like the forties, uh, LSU is 125th. There is not a power five school that is worse. That said they had one really stellar defensive performance this year.

It was Mississippi state. Why? Because Zach Garnett has put on a master class in ruining an offense. Mississippi State can't throw the ball. They want to run the ball. They're not that talented in the trenches. Auburn, without a doubt, has

much more talent than Mississippi State does, but they cannot throw the ball either. They need to run the ball, and Hugh Freeze did a nice job of creating this sort of pseudo triple option attack with Peyton Thorne leading the way, not even Robbie Ashford. But I have to imagine that from a pure matchup standpoint, this is not facing Jordan Travis. This is not facing Brady Cook. This is not facing Jackson, Darden, Lane Kiffin. Like I don't think the LSU office is going to be great by any means,

but I cannot fathom that Auburn would come out of here and have a lot of passing success. Right, and that's the thing. LSU does not seem to be that bad against the run. It's the pass that gives them the problem. And that's why LSU is an 11.5 point favorite. There's a lot of points. But they are at home.

And again, if they were Swiss cheese against the run, I'd be like Auburn all day. That's way too many points. But this, that's, and that's why I asked you the question I asked. If we think LSU can make them look like a functional passing offense, then I might be willing to take Auburn in the points. But I think I'm probably taking LSU here. I don't know if Auburn can like,

I don't know if anybody can make them look like a functional pass. I mean, the numbers are crazy. Their leading receiver has sub 200 yards on the year. Yeah. You know, you played Georgia and you played some okay games, but like you've also played bad opponents that you should have been able to stack some numbers again. So I don't know. I don't think I'm going to play this spread uh on my own personal card yeah um it's LSU's just way too unpredictable right now but I would play LSU if I had a play here

and you mentioned the home factor to me that's actually and actually – and then, look, the offense is just unstoppable. And I like Auburn's defense. It's salty, but I'll take this off. Like, the offense is strong everywhere. The O-line's the best I've ever seen at LSU. The Missouri defense that they scored 49 points on is pretty good. Well, and the crazy part is, Andy, they were number one in the SC and rush defense, right?

They were averaging like 70 yards a game, as Mizzou was. LSU came out and said, you know, we're going to help our defense. We're just going to run it. LSU ran the ball 2-1 ratio, essentially, about 66% of the time this last game. And they ran for 270, with Jaden Dans and Logan Diggs both eclipsing 100. So, like, I think LSU will move it and score on anyone. And I like Auburn's defense, but I think they will. But I think it's the home factor here, man.

The Tigers have been on the road, uh, for the first six games, tiger stadium rarely nowadays reaches it's Zenith. Like it's, it's, it's greatness, but 6.00 PM Auburn victorious homecoming after a couple of road rank

games, the fellas being excited to be back in the building in the routine where they're comfortable and then the pete jenkins factor which is like you got to really care about lsu to recognize anything about this but lsu's defensive line has the most talent of any group on the defense but they've been awful and the reason is they don't really have a d-line coach they just brought in pete jenkins who's a bit of a he's 80 years old but he's just a d-line legend like he is you know

the yoda and already you could see improvement in week one i think you'll see more here so yeah i think mainly it's tiger stadium that's pushing me to uh to choose lsu here i i am in agreement let us stay in the sec let us go to a place that does get very excited when the home team is good. Texas A&M at Tennessee. Tennessee's a three-and-a-half point favorite at Neyland Stadium. This is a weird spot for Texas A&M. If Texas A&M had beaten Alabama T-Bob, I'd be like, Tennessee all day. They're going to come in, and they will not be prepared for the environment.

They will be riding high. They'll think, oh, we got the SEC West here. But now, they played against alabama they will never probably see alabama play a sloppier game they did not win uh jimbo fisher fortune did not favor him because he was not bold and this is this is a big spot for jim, I think. Like, they got to win this. Yeah, look, I agree. I mean, I don't know, but that's the weird part about Jimbo, right? Like, they got to win.

Here's what an awful place for A&M boosters to be where you're having to really ask yourself, like, I mean, what's the difference between 50 and 60 million? Like, functionally, like, what's the difference between 50 and 60 million like what's like functionally like what's the difference between 60 and 70 million is it a tennessee loss like i i i don't know i don't know how to do those math because that's not even numbers that i can fathom but like if you really are done with him it's gonna be at least 50 because you ain't gonna wait till like 2027 or anything like that like you got a couple of years before it's 76. If they wanted to do it this year, that's what I'm saying. And then it's 60,

the next 50, the next, like to even get to a number that is palatable, you'd have to wait until 27. It doesn't feel like they're going to do that. So I, I, it's weird to say,

is it Muslim? Is it not? I, I here's my instincts, dude. I'm with you. My instincts are to go a and M and it sounds crazy because it's Neyland in October. The fan base at Tennessee is one of the best in the entire country. It's going to be loud. It's

going to be intimidating. It's like I said, it's October. Orange always plays well in October. Um, and you, you have good on good here. Uh, Texas AM, by far the best rush defense in the SEC, the only team allowing less than three yards of carry. But Tennessee, easily the best team when it comes to rushing the ball, the only team averaging over six yards of carry. Ultimately, I think Tennessee wins that battle. I think they put it on Joe Milton, and I'll actually take Max Johnson over Joe Milton in that fight.

The only thing that gives me pause is the Tennessee bye week uh because I was pretty confident on this in Tennessee might win but I was pretty confident on A&M plus three and a half and then I remember about the bye week uh but still it's like the SAT they tell you to stick with your first instinct I'm going Aggies plus a three and a half so it is it is Texas A&M's rush defense. That is what leads me to lean toward them because I saw, I saw Tennessee against Florida in person when they couldn't run the ball. Exactly.

If you can't, if they can't run the ball, their offense does not function the way it's supposed to function. And that's the issue against South Carolina. They kept running into these third and fives and they were getting that's the issue against South Carolina. They kept running into these third and fives and they were getting it on the ground every single time. And they dominated South Carolina. So that is that that's really where it's at is can Tennessee stop them on the ground? If they can, they're going to win this game. If they can't, Tennessee is going to,

Tennessee is going to run through them and score a bunch of points, and that'll be that. It's the same thing with Hinton Hooker, and even with Hinton Hooker last year, who was awesome and much more capable than Joe Milton of beating you, but if you could stop that Tennessee rushing tag, the Hypo system starts to just kind of crumble a bit. And I know sack yardage counts against rushing, which is dumb as hell, we all agree.

And so, no, A&M sack yardage counts against rushing, which is dumb as hell. We all agree. And so, no, A&M didn't really hold Alabama to 21 yards or 23 carries or whatever, but it still was like right at three or sub three. Yeah. You know, if you can do that. Alabama was not gaining chunks of yardage on the ground. No, not at all. And no Brew McCoy for Tennessee, unfortunately, had that horrible injury.

You know, that's a devastating loss in terms of leadership and really the downfield blocking as well that would spring plays for longer when they throw underneath. That's another thing. So I'm going to take Texas A&M and the points here. Oh, okay. Look at us. Simpatico.

Tennessee fans mad, and that's all right because the last time I picked against them, Tennessee covered very nicely against South Carolina. Was that the epic week where, you know, mathematically, you were undefeated? No, no, my undefeated week, I actually picked the Vols to cover. Oh, okay. That was perfection, T-Bob. Look, I always say it in gambling.

Really, you're supposed to end up right at 50% and they win because the odds are right under. So I don't care if you win every game or lose every game. I'm just as impressed because mathematically it's just as hard. It's just as hard either way. Your guys killed me last week. I would have been 6-2 on that graphic last week except Major Burns didn't realize you're supposed to go down on that interception, so you just run the clock out. The cover was never in doubt.

Tigers on the road. All right. Let us go to 3.30 Eastern time, 12.30 local, in Seattle, on the shores of Lake Washington. Yes. The biggest game of the week, Oregon at Washington. Washington's a two and a half point favorite. Essentially.

They're saying this is a pick them. If you, if you played at a neutral site, I, I love this game T Bob because these are two, these are two teams that everybody talks about the amount of points they're putting up, but both of them are actually built pretty nicely along the line of scrimmage too. Yeah, and what I love is the Pac-12 has been this big anticipatory conversation the entire year, right? We got little teasers, little undercard fights like a Colorado-Oregon, a Colorado-USC

that we cared about because the names were big, but we knew Colorado was never really one of the true powers, right? And we had some nice Wazoo-Oregon state battles in there. So the undercard was great in the Pac-12 this year, but now it's time to start getting ready for these heavyweight battles. And you got Heisman team or a high, you know, you have legitimate Heisman candidates leading legitimate national

championship contenders. There's probably three of them in the conference, maybe more, but this is where they're all going to finally have to start to play one another. And then you have somebody like Utah just hanging out that I never think about anymore, but like, they're still there. They're just as relevant as ever. So, um, I, I can't wait for this game. First heavyweight match. I gotta be clear up front though, Andy, this is a, uh,

this is a heart and soul pick for me. I love the Huskies. I love a giant lefty with a rocket arm. I love the color combination. They've been my heart and soul team all year long. I picked them to win the Pac-12. I believe in Pennix power. They're the only team I want to say to win in Eugene in the last 20 games or something that Oregon's played at home, and now they get them at

Washington. Beautiful unis. A beautiful style of play from Washington. A beautiful setting, as you mentioned. And I love Kalen DeBoer. You know what I like? And you're seeing this out of Lance Leipold as well. Like Kansas is at a time when everybody wants to go sexy coordinator, which does work.

Like I think Dan Landon's awesome. Great job at Oregon. Completely changed the attitude and everything. But Kalen DeBoer won three net three championships on the NAIA level he won four championships on the GPAC level I think that translates because I don't care if you're on that level you're still emerging on top you're still

figuring out how to beat your peers and win the big games anyway they went 11 to two last year so yes no doubt this is a hard pick it's a blind pick for me um but i am i am rolling with uh with the huskies here over the ducks in washington i love it because i am on the other side of this i have been picking a lot of oregon to win this league since the off season basically when i saw what they were adding through the portal i said dan landing has made notes about what they needed to do better.

And he is taking care of all of these things that they need to take care of. They are better on the line of scrimmage. They are better in the pass rush. They are better in the secondary. This is a better defensive team because they were humiliated by Oregon State in the last game of the season when Oregon State just kept running the ball and came back. They lost to Washington in a game where Bo Nix got hurt at a very inconvenient time. But I think they could have won that game. So I think this is going to be a great game.

I don't think anybody's blowing anybody out. I think both these teams are really good. Now, what excites me about this game, T-Bob, over Oklahoma-Texas last week, I think Oklahoma and Texas are going to play again for the Big 12 title. And as exciting as that game was, we're going to see it again in Jerry World. The Pac-12 is so deep and so difficult. It's a very good point.

I don't know that we'll see this again. This may be it. It's a very good point. It's a very good point. Both don't know that we'll see this again. This may be it. It's a very good point. It's a very good point. Both of these teams, both of these teams have to play USC, Utah, Oregon State, and Washington State. All losable games. So I am so excited because it feels like a very high-stakes matchup. And this is Bo's time.

I'm ready. And I also thinkregon could beat you in a lot of ways what i think ultimately helps them here is they get after michael pennix in a way that nobody has been able to do all year he does that he does not have time for roma dunze and those receivers to get open that's that's man. He's got a few of them guys. I mean, there is those guys that are like NFL dudes. Yeah.

That's what I'm saying. Like LSU has two in Malik neighbors and Brian Thomas. I think Washington is the only team in the country. So they got three between a dunes, a Polka McMillan. So I like, yeah. And look,

and I love landing as well. Right. He's absolutely changed the culture. I love the speech about the Redwoods before the Colorado game. You know, why is the Redwoods strong? Not because it's standing alone because it's roots, but the interconnected roots, you know, like I love that kind of stuff, but, uh, no, no. Also I it's weird. I just, I've always kind of liked the huskies first game i ever played in college first start i ever had was randomly lsu washington at washington it's on the water the setting's beautiful the fans are fired up weather incredible i yeah give me yeah give me the huskies here purple and gold sticks together i understand that well well to be fair i i got a

little flack on this but you know i don't know if she's like purple and yellow. True. There's something that's actually nice about a real purple and burnished gold, which is what Washington's bringing to bear. Yeah, you guys more are the Lakers. Yes, yes. I like them, even though my favorite uniforms in all of college football, actually Minnesota.

Hand down. The Minnesota homes with the yellow helmets. I don't know. I just love them. See, I go USC because I like shoulder yokes. Yeah, but bro, they got such giant numbers. Yeah. And like USC already is small defensively,

and the giant numbers just make them look smaller, and it pisses me off. And I know it's classic, so it does score points in the classic category. But just like subtly shrink the numbers a little bit. That's all I'd say. That's my advice. Yeah, you can do that.

That's no problem. I like the no name on the back of the jersey. I like that. And I love the shoulder. I'm with you on these as well. Yeah, the no name is not for everybody. But for the schools that do it, the Notre Dames, the Penn States, it makes sense. So, all right.

Here's a weird one I threw this in here because I just have a feeling this this could get odd it's on the CW you got to find the CW Louisville at Pittsburgh Louisville's a seven and a half point favorite on the road Pitt has been not good this year they've been bad yeah uh they have benched phil jacovic they made him third string wait did somebody say he's playing tight end or something well he was gonna be the third string quarterback it was one of those that like you see this more in the nfl where they're just like we've decided anybody but you. So Christian LeBleu will be the new quarterback. And with Louisville, we had Brian Braum on the show last week, and you could tell he's very confident,

but you could tell he also understands that this is a somewhat fragile young team. And how do they handle the success of beating Notre Dame, being the toast of college football? We're all going down the rest of their schedule going, holy crap, they might go 11 and one or 12 and oh. And how do they all deal with that? And so being favored on the road the next week is a tricky spot.

It is a little stinky. By the way, from six days ago there i'm reading an article out of pittsburgh uh saying that phil jacobic is switching to tight end yeah and that's insane dude i don't know you've ever seen what he's not a tight end and he's listed as qb2 oh okay okay this. Listen, he's a big dude. If he wanted to play some tight end, I think he could. But man, there's a lot going on. Speaking of tight ends in this game,

the moment my jaw dropped in that Louisville-Notre Dame game, not when they won. I actually had picked Louisville to win the game. But Joey Gatewood caught a pass. And I'm like, wait, that Joey Gatewood caught a pass and I'm like, wait, that Joey Gatewood. Yes. The Joey Gatewood who played quarterback at Auburn at Kentucky and at UCF is a tight end at Louisville. God dude, two catches for 52 and a ton on the year. God,

that is college football. So weird nowadays. Okay. Let me contribute a question how many spots ahead of brock purdy in the qb class of 2018 was joey gatewood ranked wait so joey gatewood came out in the same class as purdy and was ranked ahead of him oh yes 59 spots ahead of him jo Joey Gatewood was the number five quarterback. Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields were one, too. Oh, my God, dude. Okay, so Purdy's just been overcoming bad scouting his entire life, basically.

Yes. Also, it makes you think, like, what was Max? Not Max. Matt Campbell maybe should have struck while the iron was hot, and he had Brees hall and Brock Purdy because it's kind of fallen apart there since. Yeah. And, and every, every time I watched the 49ers play, I'm more and more convinced it was all

Brock Purdy. Yeah. Yeah. And Brees was good too. Yeah. No, I, I, I, I agree. I read the other day, campbell had uh uh he got offered by the lions yeah i think he turned it down yeah that's great they hired dan campbell

and it worked out pretty well for them so they're great now all right all right all right focus in yeah um we can focus we don't have to break down too much the x's and o's this i'm gonna take louisville i trust jeff braum yeah that's really all I'm saying here is I trust Jeff Brom. But I think this is a very tricky spot for the Cardinals, and I would not be surprised if I'm wrong. I know that no quotes are ever actually real, and we never know if people actually said them. But this is a game where I go back to that Napoleon quote, right?

In war, morale is to physical as three parts out of four, basically, right? And when you look at these two teams, I don't feel like Pitt could be more down and Louisville cannot get higher. And I agree that there's questions about whether or not Louisville can handle the success. But I think Jack Frum, I think he's pretty well suited to having his team stay locked in the moment here. And I believe in this team. And I feel like if Louisville was going to lose,

it was going to be on the road at NC State, not at Pitt. So, yeah, give me Plummer and the boys to go in there and take care. And plus, Pitt's been really bad this year. Narduzzi's got to be. Ever since Narduzzi lost Jordan Addison and NIL and everything. It just feels like that job's kind of gotten harder and harder. Would not be surprised at all.

If he is looking for an out when, when you didn't recognize what won you the ACC championship and made fun of that actually after it left. Yeah. Maybe that's a problem. So true, true, but we shall see what happens on the CW. actually, after it left. Yeah. Maybe that's a problem. True. True. But we shall see what happens on the CW.

Here's another one. Morale, you just mentioned. Yes. This is the morale of the viewers game. I don't know how we're going to feel about this. Iowa at Wisconsin. Now, we always pick the Iowa total on this show, but this time we're actually going to also pick the point spread

because this is an important game. The winner of this game is probably going to win the Big Ten West. Yeah. I mean, don't even get me started on how the Big Ten did their halves of the conferences. It's so stupid. Well, they tried it another way, and then they didn't like that, so we went with that but

like but like is there a more irrelevant half of the conference winner every single year than the big 10 west winner like it might as well just be a stepping stone for the big 10 east because i know they don't want to cannibalize themselves they don't want to knock those little playoffs years that jim mcelwain won the sec East at Florida, that was probably the same. Okay, that's true. Mizzou sneaking in and winning a couple of those East early on was maybe somewhat similar as well. Oh, listen.

I will always ride for 2013 Mizzou. That team was awesome. And that SEC Championship game. Is that Doriel Green Beckham? I believe he was on that team. That was James Franklinlin the quarterback uh i love that that three the first three quarters that sec championship game against auburn were about the most fun i've had at a football game and um that team was that team was really good

look i would love for i i love that mizzou's kind of good again uh okay i went wisconsin i yeah i gotta be honest andy i've not watched a lot of Wisconsin this year In fact, I just heard the term Dairy raid this morning Which I deeply love And I'm sad that I've somehow missed out On the dairy raid memes But I know they had a couple nice ones

Recently To me, this is how my brain works You're giving an Iowa offense nine and a half points. I think they cover. It's that simple. Iowa, they're going to get nine. And I don't think that Cade McNamara being out really matters. The offense already sucked.

It's just maybe you suck a little more. Well, it's a 36 total. So what are we talking about here? But we're talking about like a 24-12 game. Yeah. That's what we're talking about like a 24 12 game like yeah that's what we're talking about i don't think wisconsin's gonna score that much so i have watched quite a few wisconsin games actually and like i go back to the washington state game like if they had more team speed at receiver they they win that game because you're telling me it really is just having too many white guys at receiver that's doing the air raid in?

It's the exact thing that everybody was worried about in the first place when you go to run the air raid at Wisconsin? But here's the thing. They can fix that. Luke Fickle, look at his history. He knows how to find fast people. So that part's going to get fixed. What is interesting is they have been

able to run the ball very effectively we know phil longo likes to run the ball when he had javante williams and michael carter at north carolina they ran it really well so braylon allen's been awesome uh i believe chesma lucy's out now so that that you don't have the one two punch anymore i think braylon allen unfortunately is going to get run into a wood chipper with the Iowa defense. And that's the problem. Like, I'm taking the under in this thing. Yeah. And I just – the only reason I'm taking Iowa in the points,

I think they'll lose. I just don't know that anybody's going to score 10. No, no. That's what I'm saying, bro. It's a third of the spread. I was getting a third of the spread. I will say this. Always bet the Iowa under. It's just a hard and fast rule because not only, I'm pretty sure it's undefeated on the year.

I bet it every week. Oh no, no, no. The over hit two weeks ago, the over hit against Michigan state. Okay. So there you go. So every now and then it may trip up, but we've been betting Iowa unders for like three years now on the show. And it probably has the highest hit rate of any single bet that I can imagine in college football. So like happy because, because you see a number like 36, you get a little scared, free yourself from the fear, free

yourself from the burden of knowledge or analysis and just bet it. Just bet the under on Iowa every single week and you'll win more than you lose. It is amazing. And Deacon Hill, 6'3", 260. That's what I want my quarterback to look like. Yeah.

I want a quarterback who looks like me. That's what I want. That's a big boy. That's exactly right. Let us move back into the SEC. This is a game that I don't't usually i don't pick games with with this high of a spread in conference play but i think it's interesting with alabama coming off that a&m win and uh you and aaron had a great discussion on snaps about alabama and just the

voodoo that nick saban has done so this is arkansas at alabama alabama is a 19 and a half point favorite i'm getting a little worried about sam Pittman even though I I just like the guy I don't want anything bad to happen to him everybody likes him my feeling on Arkansas is they have so much passion and so much money that they're going to be very impulsive when it comes to coaching and they're just going to keep hiring people to fire them and you can fire Sam Pittman and you'll be back in this situation in three or four years but i understand i'm not going to tell you how to feel let's talk about yeah but like the tough part there is like the flip side is like do you think that sam pitman like i get that he's done a better job than what he did before him but like you know do you believe that sam pitman

because arkansas wants to be better they want to be relevant didn't do a better job than bobby petrino did bobby yes exactly that's what i'm saying and that's – because Arkansas wants to be better. They want to be SACU-West relevant. They didn't do a better job than Bobby Petrino did. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. And that's where they're going to be, like, calling back to, like, we can get back there. And, you know, they're not – I mean, college football does just come down to the head coach. Yeah.

Kind of a lot of times. And Arkansas is one of those schools in the NIL era that could really dig deep. It's true. If they wanted to. It's true. I don't think they have any debt on any of the buildings on their campus. mean think about they got tyson chicken walmart and jerry jones there's three billionaires right there now so they they they can be this but it they've not looked particularly great this season against except against lsu where they're moving the ball down the field

problem but let us talk about the job Nick Saban has done with this Alabama team because it took a while. And this is also Tommy Reese and Jalen Milrow. I feel like once they decided Jalen Milrow was their quarterback before the week of the Ole Miss game, that's when everything turned for this team because I don't think they were running an offense that was built around Jalen Milrow. I think were running an offense that they they felt like Milrow or Tyler Buckner

or Ty Simpson could run then they play USF they're like see other quarterback parents yeah it doesn't work out stop calling we're going with number four it is what it felt like which what a giant stage to have that kind of, it almost felt like, okay, fans, everybody, like you want to see what happens? You want to see why Millborough won the starting job? Here you go. But I think you nailed it, right?

We just talked about freeing yourself from the burden of analysis when it comes to the Iowa under. I feel like that was almost like the Alabama coaching staff. Like, free yourself from this expectation that Jalen Mill Monroe is going to be somebody that he's not, that Tyson is going to step up into a way that you haven't seen before, that Tyler Buckner is going to somehow be something that he's never even been close to being.

And now, like you said, they're all in on Monroe. And you look up, and does Monroe make mistakes? Yeah, but he is the third highest rated passer in the SEC. And he does have massive big playability. And he showed me major growth when they couldn't run the ball at all at college station. You're down at half second time. You did the same thing against soul miss and you come out and you just

dominate the second half. So yeah, it's Ari Wasserman wrote. I think he might've been in the headline. I'm not sure, but you know, Alabama is inevitable. And that kind of stuck with me. I mean, they are the Thanos of the college football world. There is funny. Cause Ari definitely didn't write the headline. Cause he's never watched that movie Avengers movie. Well, like whatever it is though it stuck me because the inevitability of alabama is getting

disconcerting and we've said it all year like if this alabama team wins anything of note it's probably nick saban's greatest coaching job that he's he's ever had and and and then and i mean you look at arkansas andy and speaking of morale and things like that, these two teams could not be going in more opposite directions. Alabama's had two really impressive SEC comebacks and must-have-it wins to take control of the West, and Arkansas's falling apart. You blow the big lead against BYU. You almost get LSU.

You fall short. You lose by seven to Ole Miss. You got Dan Enos immediately responding to student emails after the games about play calling like multiple responses and somebody affiliated with Dan Enos getting Danny Enos on the Michigan State candidates list at least from one report I just remember seeing anyone what don't worry LSU defensive coordinator Matt House is also on that list. So you got some agents working overtime right now. But yeah, the Alabama defense is going to give KJ and Enos a ton of problems. Jalen Miro continues to grow in strength like we talk about.

I talked to my gambling guy here. This is the only game I cheated on. My guy Colin Wilson of the Action Network. He is so sharp. He's the only game I cheated on. I got Colin Wilson of the action network. He is so sharp. He's been so good all year long. Um, and he thinks maybe an Arkansas backdoor cover, but he did say slam the over.

He said, all the metrics are pushing over here, but I'm going Alabama to cover here. I think Arkansas, if they don't score quickly, they may not score at all against Alabama's defense. That's the tricky part. Remember that Arkansas-Georgia game a few years ago?

Arkansas came in there all hot and then couldn't get across the 50. I'm a little worried that that may be what we're walking into here. Whoa, whoa, chill out, dude. I have PTSD from not getting across 50. You're not allowed to say that in front of me. That's a terrible point for me. Yeah. We will not.

Especially when we're talking about Alabama. Yeah. Exactly. The Bronx cheer when that actually happened in that game was probably the worst part of it it's it's just so unbelievably sad how badly we got our ass kicked and then i confirmed this with aj mccarran on rivals yesterday where i had always heard that alabama had like us and we're talking about the 2011 national championship for anybody who's like what the hell is on my um I'd always heard that Alabama had a sports psychologist study our team and that he essentially determined that tired Matthew was the head of the snake and it was like a cut off the head of the snake and watch the body follow

sort of mission which he was like I have never and I never thought about in those terms, but I have never been as I've never shared a locker room with a leader or a football player as incredible as tired. Matthew blows me away to this day. Um, and so the entire Alabama game plan was built around cutting him down in front of us where they were going to get him a man to man, and they were going to attack him with a, who's the title? Was it Howard? Their tallest receiver, and they were going to throw him on the sideline, where it's either going to, if AJ places it right, it's either going to go out of bounds, or they're going to get it. They're not going to give him a chance to make a play.

And that all felt very apocryphal to me. Kind of like, is it a little too interesting to be true? But no, McCaran literally yesterday just confirmed everything that i said wow and then i'm like and you know what we did we practiced the option for two weeks we did 15 practices of just different versions of the option and full tackle scrimmages it's just insane the difference between saving and miles getting ready for that natty knowing a little bit about how how nick savin handled the mental architecture of that team i think that because they have multiple mental guys i think that's called gandalf was was the one who did that one so so we actually i know who you're talking about the wizards from michigan state bonnie rosen is his name yeah yes shout out the

doc he was an old uh vietnam medical man and um he taught me when I was younger because LSU Actually brought him as well we never went as Deep with it like Saban Does like military special forces Focusing on the moment not being Result oriented all that sort of stuff we never went that Deep but you know I may have Had some anger problems in my day

May have punched a few holes in my freshman Dorm And I worked I worked with the doc about, about anger management and, and learning to control your anger rather than controlling you. And yeah, Gandalf is correct. Not just in look, but that man's got some deep, deep wisdom. Well, it's he, he may need to come into Lexington. I will take Alabama to cover in this game. I want to make sure everybody knows we'll throw that on the graphic and I'll be wrong and it'll be great.

But let's, let's move on to Lexington, Kentucky, Missouri at Kentucky. And I'm going to play this. We played it on yesterday's show. This is Mark Stoops on his call in show on Monday night. And then we got to go do it.

You know, the other side of that, the, you know, the, the other side, if you want to do that, it's blame, complain, deny, or make excuses. And we're not going to do that.

You know, it is what it is. And, you know, fans have that right. I give it to them. And, you know, I just encourage them to donate more because that's what those teams are doing and and uh in uh yeah i could promise you in georgia they bought some pretty good players you're allowed to these days and uh we could use some help that's what they look like you know what i mean when you have 85 of them so so uh i encourage uh anybody that's disgruntled to pony up some more the best part of that answer if you watch the video i think is the local radio host's face as he realized like oh we got a banger you know like okay dude which is great when it's

your own show but not when it's the coach's college show because those are not supposed to be interesting yes true actually true and then uh the worst part to me here is the whole, I'm not going to make some excuses, but here are excuses. Like, I don't love that. But you had a different take on this, Andy. I want to hear what's your take on that. Yeah, so mine was, I don't, like, everybody's like, what does this do to the players in the locker room? And I'm like, they just played Georgia.

They know how much better the Georgia players are than them. Like, they know this. Sad, but true. We had Dion Walker on the show last them. Like they know this. Sad, sad, but true. We had Dion Walker on the show last week. Like Dion Walker would start for Georgia. I'm not sure anybody else in Kentucky would. Yeah. That's the problem.

So I, I agree. I, I, you, you're not wrong. You're not wrong at all there. I think the only issue could be like, let's say, and you never know with head coaches, right? Because everybody lies. You never know if a team actually likes their head coach or not. If they like Mark Stoops, then you're right.

No big deal. It is what it is. We keep moving. If they don't like Mark Stoops, I could see it being a bit of a problem. Yeah. You a little bit like, you know what? Yeah. F that dude.

Anyway, Sydney, you're talking about how we're going to win. We're going to do this or that. And the whole time he's just thinking, man, look how much shittier my players are than theirs. Here's where I'd go if I were them. Well, you make all this money. And you're saying the fans should dig deeper. Maybe you're – because this is what I keep telling ADs.

Because ADs keep getting asked by their fans like what do I give to do I give to you do I give the collective and they're always like what and they don't want to answer the question yeah in their heart of hearts they're like well if you'd like to win more games give the collective because all I'm going to do is you have money to buy a to make a water slide in the in the volleyball facility so like that's what you got to do. But Mark Stoops, if it really is more Jimmy's and Joe's than X's and O's oriented, you got to bite off a chunk of yours too.

That's I mean, so that is, and it's like, and I wonder, are there, are there, cause I've been thinking about a lot. Are there,

are there NCAA violations or something to Stoops giving you to a collector? I don't know. But if, even if there are, it's just a real, I mean, we're talking about the Southeast. Okay. There's not a lot of great state economies in the Southeast. Right. A lot of SEC football fans, you know, blue collar, middle class, whatever you want to call it.

We just grind it. We just trying to make it raise our families watch some football right so when the eight million dollar man is telling you know the guy who's maybe working at the horse farm or the distillery you need to kick in more i'm sorry you go so stereotypically kentucky there but um but but like but like it's tone deaf if nothing else it just it all feels very tone deaf. The only thing about Kentucky Georgia is like, if you're a Kentucky fan, again, what did you expect? You're an awful style matchup. You're built to be an inferior version of them.

Yes, exactly. And by far, the most damning thing to come out of this coaching show is the stat the mark stoops only has two wins in the 10 years over teams that would go on to finish with scc winning records and it's like five and three florida from 18 and i think like five and three south carolina from 17 so it's not even like really the best ones either goes i don't believe that's true yeah true but so and then kentucky sports radio actually like laid it out in a very clear and concise graphic where no it is true very much did so missouri is potentially one of those teams

that may finish this year with a winning sec record but but probably only if they beat Kentucky. So this is a very interesting game because it's not the same style matchup that Kentucky-Georgia was. You knew what was going to happen with Kentucky-Georgia, but Kentucky's style against Missouri, and you just mentioned what LSU did on the ground against Missouri. Yeah. Kentucky may be able to play very well against Missouri. Now, can you stop Luther Burden is another question. I'm going to admit to being a prisoner of the moment here. Okay. Because I'm going to rock with Mizzou. And maybe I've just been snorting too much offense every weekend.

But I love what Brady Cook and Luther Burden are doing right now, and it's so much fun, and I think Brady Cook's legit. Yeah. I mean, his receivers kind of betrayed him in that LSU game, so I'm like, he was putting it on him throughout the entire game. They're tight end drops three passes in four times. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They probably had like five or six drops in total, including touchdowns.

So, no. So, I'm going to roll Mizzou here. I do think the Missouri rush defense is probably a bit better. Not a bit better. I think it's much better than how it looked against LSU. I think that Jaden Daniels kind of made a lot of that happen as well. And that LSU offensive line is the best I've ever seen since I've been covering the LSU Tigers.

Like, it's better than the 2019 line. I think it's better than any of them. And then, I mean, what's up with Devin Leary? What in the world did Devin Leary, what was he on two years ago mentally, physically? He was just in such a zone at NC State, and he is being completely incapable of recapturing it. I thought maybe Liam Cohen would be the key to unlocking that,

but that doesn't appear to be the case. So no, give me, I mean, I think, I think Mizzou is a big quarterback advantage. Give me, give me the Tigers here. I'm going to take Mizzou as well. I, you know, and sorry, Kentucky, but this is a, this could, and the other thing is this could be a one loss beats you twice situation. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Stoops gets them back and they're all right.

But that was a tough way to lose. And again, do they like Stoops or not? Do they like Stoops or not? Is there a bunch of grumbling going on or is the belief still there for Kentucky football team? Also on Kentucky, though, I mean, like, we really don't know what they are. Yeah. I mean, Mark Stoops says he should host his own master class

on how to schedule awful teams to make sure you get to eight wins. It's the reason why he was one of the main voices against going to nine SEC games. It's what's made him get paid $8 million a year. And so I know they had a ranking by their name, but, like, are we supposed to be that impressed by beating Florida at home when Billy Napier's 1-6 on the road? And that Florida game is what they're riding on,

and we don't know what that means. We really don't. All right, let us go into the ACC. Speaking of teams getting up off the mat, Miami at North Carolina. North Carolina favored by 3.5. Miami last seen not taking a knee against Georgia Tech and then allowing Georgia Tech to go 76 yards in 36 seconds.

This was, I mean, this is the most heartbreaking way to lose a game and your coach did it to you. Do you get up off the mat or not? It's the worst coaching decision I've ever seen in my life. And somebody can be like, oh, what about Marcus Freeman having 10 players on the field? But that's not a decision. More often than people realize. Exactly.

That's a human error. This was a conscious choice of let's run the ball and expose ourselves to risk that didn't need to happen. But I would say this, Andy, I don't. And, and I like Miami Tyler Van Dyke is Tyler Van back.

He's been awesome. You know, Georgia tech game kind of struggle, but he's been all that went over a and M one of the best the entire year. Um, and yes, last week's a big morale blow to eat.

And you're right. There is like a lot of conversation about, can you pick yourself or not? But this is more, I'm picking UNC here. This is more about me loving the Tar Heels this year. Yeah. Okay. Are you, you tell me, I got to, and, and you tell me though, I got, I got a UNC Tar Heel team where Drake May hasn't even played that well.

I mean, going to last week, he had five touchdowns, four picks, and they're undefeated. You got a UNC defense with Gene Chizik giving up sub 20 points a game. You get Tess Walker back in the first game. You get Tess Walker back. You blow out Syracuse. Drake made those for 442, three touchdowns, no picks. So he's rounding the form. The defense is good. And I get it. Miami, I think is actually ranked higher in a points per game and points allowed per game standpoint but I love this UNC team they've been continuously covering this year their morale infinitely higher than Miami they're at home give me UNC minus three and a half all day here so here's my thing about Miami do we see the offense that we saw in the first four games or do we see the offense that we see in the first four games? Or do we see the offense that we saw in the Georgia Tech game?

Because it feels like they looked at Georgia. Remember, Georgia Tech changed defensive play callers the week of the Miami game. And I do wonder if they kind of turtled up and tried to get really conservative. So I wonder if we see a reversion to that offense we saw against Texas A&M and Temple earlier this year. I still don't know if that's good enough to beat North Carolina

because North Carolina has, like you said, Tez Walker's back. And remember, they did not get the news on Tez Walker until Thursday of last week. He was not really part of the game plan. He'd been playing scout team. Now he's been working with the ones all week. He's very dynamic. I'm going to take North Carolina as well.

Not just because Kamen Rucker, who was on the show yesterday, one of my favorite guests since we've been doing this show. That guy's awesome. Just enjoy watching him play. Now he'll have a big job because that Miami offensive line is pretty good. But if they can get after Tyler Van Dyke, they're going to win this game, and it's not going to be coming down to who takes a knee or not. I feel like we're talking about a UNC-Florida State ACC championship again.

It's like a year in a row when we get to the end of this thing. I think we are very close to that. Now, UNC did not show up in that Clemson ACC championship game last year, but not. Oh yeah. I said again, nevermind.

You're right. It was Clemson last year. No, it was all, but again, that was a much more flawed UNC team than this one appears to be. I also think Gene Chizik has just gotten more accustomed because he took a long break.

Yeah. He was working for the SEC network. Yeah. Football changed so much from a day-to-day standpoint and from an X's and O's standpoint since he'd been gone even that it probably takes a little while to get get back in the flow and it does seem like they are so much better on defense this year and it's not just that you, they brought in players like Amari Bernie, but that I think a lot of it is he's just better at calling it because he's

more used to how, how the game looks today. So yeah, I mean, that allowed 40 points in the fourth quarter alone last year to App State. And now they're giving up sub 20 again. That's it. They won.

I mean, that's the craziest game I've ever seen in my life. It was one of those that kept moving down the priorities on TVs and I had to keep moving. All right. Last one. We've kept T-Bob way too long, but of course, USC at Notre Dame. I know when this line came out and it hasn't really moved. Notre Dame is a two and a half point favorite.

This line came out. It hasn't really moved, Notre Dame's a two and a half point favorite. When this line came out, it was like, okay, interesting. Because Notre Dame just lost to Louisville. Did not look, you know, very dynamic against Duke. Ohio State held them to 14. How are they going to outscore USC? And I think the answer, T-Bob, might be that this is Vegas telling us that USC hasn't actually played a decent defense yet. No, no, no.

I mean, 1,000%. No, Andy. So, okay. So, first off, I think these are two teams, both coming in, that have a bit of reason to be exhausted. Notre Dame more so, right? Notre Dame starts in Ireland. They have the game in Raleigh with the giant rain delays.

They had to go on the road, back-to-back reeked and quality ranked opponent. Well, excuse me. No. First they had the four quarter battle with Ohio state that comes down to last play. Then they go on the road to Duke comes down to last play.

They find a way to win. Then they're on the road again, another ring phone in Louisville. And now they got USC. No dream has reason to be exhausted, but they're going home. Now you've got a USC that's coming off a super tense triple OT win. Anytime you put the heathen, soft Los Angeles boys

in the very religious and dreary Midwest, I think USC already is going to feel a bit uncomfortable there. But my instinct at first was to just simply trust Caleb Williams because he is the best quarterback in college football and go USC. But then I really started to think about it and really started to think, what happens to Lincoln Riley teams when they run into physical teams? And there is no doubt that Notre Dame is physical. It feels like when USC runs into Utah or something,

right. And then the USC defense is so soft that I believe that Sam Hartman and this often should have success. So like, yes, Caleb Williams is the best quarterback in the country, but I like Notre Dame in almost every other way. So to me,

this one feels pretty heavy, Notre Dame. And I'm taking the Irish to cover. You want the weather? Oh yeah. It's going weather? Oh, yeah. It could be rainy, right? 55 high, 49 low. Oh, boy.

Rain all day. No way. Should be tapering off by kickoff, but will be wet and dreary. That's the most anti-LA weather experience that you could possibly imagine. Did you see the hilarious video of old boy with the, uh, with the chemical sprayer, the bug sprayer, just kind of piddling waters on the returners. Exactly. Exactly.

This is, this is what we got. So, but here's the problem with that. Here's the problem with that. For those that don't know, USC is a practice. They're catching punts. And the guy is a freaking orchid bug sprayer out there. And he's just like spraying water in the turner's face. And they actually fumbled a few of them which i'm like yes come on but beyond

that you're in los angeles the literal mecca for fake rain machines exactly will ferrell go to the studio next door go get a fake rain machine and return punts get anything more effective than just spitting at the player. Like I was, I was shocked that they don't have just some sort of movie making rain machine on call. I mean, you're not in the big 10 yet.

T-Bob. They don't have that kind of joke. George Lucas went to USC film school, Steven Spielberg. You tell me one of them can't give you a rain machine. That that was wild to me. Absolutely. Wild.

Oh, I love it. I love it. This is – I am curious to see if Notre Dame's offense looks more dynamic against USC's defense. I suspect that what we've seen is a factor of Ohio State has a very good defense. Duke has an incredible defense and very well-schemed. Louisville, I don't know how good Louisville is defensively, but that game was in the worst possible spot for Notre Dame

because you're on the road, you're at night again, you've got USC next week. But this would be a time. Notre Dame has a little bit of the Iowa disease of not being able to have a dynamic receiver. True. If Jaden Greathouse can play a little more than he did. He was hurt in the Duke game. He was

back somewhat for a little bit. If he can play a little bit, I think they're going to be all right. I am also going to take Notre Dame in this one to cover because I think Sam Hartman is going to have himself a day against that defense, and you're right. I would estimate he's going to have a day, too. Yeah, they might just run him. They might just run it because Arizona with that toss,

the only time they stopped that toss was the last two point conversion. It's so wild that Alex Grinch in this USC defense is that much better. I mean, they brought in talent. They brought in all conference guys. They bring in a guy like bear, Alexander Lucas, all of them, Cobb. And it just, just has not really translated at all. And that tells you it's schematic. It's not yeah it's not

personnel also though you also personnel wise you cannot have a mike linebacker that is six six 200 pounds just can't happen it just looks so weird especially with those giant numbers well and i i realized that linebackers have gotten smaller i was around brandon spikes the other day uh who is like the classic middle line i asked i went to cut him one time and it felt like i dove into a telephone pole when i hit his thigh it just slid off he's still huge like how he and dante hightower played the same position that today's middle linebackers play mystifies me so scary mfa right there ball exactly but that is that is what usc is dealing with and we're having we're gonna have no faith in their defense until proven otherwise i don't think we're proven otherwise this weekend t-bob this has been tremendous i really appreciate it

and uh i know you have 4 000 shows to do today. So we appreciate you giving us so much time. Hell yeah. No, Andy, always fun, man. You know, you've always been very good to me coming on my little local radio shows as well. So I love what y'all are doing on three. And it's super fun. Thanks for having me, man.

We think we pretty much agreed on everything, maybe except for what, Oregon, Washington? I think that's it. And that I think is a heart and soul pick for both of us. Great minds think alike, I suppose. Or we'll see. All right, Andy, take it easy, man. You have a great day.

By the way, Soka was awesome. It was. It was. It was spectacular. So I was in a period of my life when Rebels was on. I was not watching much TV. I love the clone wars. Rebels didn't really get to watch it.

So now I understand the love for those characters. Yeah. I didn't know before. So it's really good, man. I loved it. All right, bro.

Well, I'll hot you later. That's it for the show. Thank you to Terry on Arnold. Thank you to T Bob a bear. That was a lot of fun. Thank you to Terry on Arnold. Thank you to T Bob a bear. That was a lot of fun. I am very, very excited.

We're in the middle of the 49 straight days of football. We got games tonight. We got games tomorrow. We got games Friday coach primes playing against Stanford on Friday. And then of course, Saturday, we got it all. Especially that Oregon Washington game in Seattle.

We will go deep, deep inside that game on Thursday's show. I cannot wait to talk to you tomorrow. Bye.