Andy & Ari On3 - Which SEC quarterback has the most AURA?

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

Florida quarterback D.J. Lagway his best attribute as a QB is his aura, and that got Andy and Ari thinking: Which SEC QB has the MOST aura? Between Lagway and Oklahoma’s John Mateer, there was a ton of aura walking around SEC media days Wednesday. But the league is loaded with QBs who ooze aura. LSU’s Garrett Nussmeier, South Carolina’s LaNorris Sellers, Vanderbilt’s Diego Pavia.(0:00-4:17) Intro: Eliah Drinkwitz kicks us off(4:18-10:40) Which SEC QB has the most aura?(10:41-16:02) Naming SEC QBs(16:03-17:50) Presidents with Aura(17:51-27:47) Closing out SEC QBs: Arch Manning, Joey Aguilar(27:48-34:14) Qbs across the country(34:15-50:50) UNC flips 4-Star from Ohio(50:51-54:10) When do you write?(54:11-1:04:00) Dave Portnoy to Big Noon?(1:04:01-1:10:04) Dabo confuses Brian Kelly with a singer(1:10:05-1:10:56) Conclusion: Dear Andy & Ari tomorrow! So who has the most? Also, North Carolina has flipped a 2026 Ohio State commitment from Ohio. What does this say about recruiting in the NIL era? And how much fun is it that Bill Belichick is now in the thick of big-time recruiting? Plus, Barstool Sports founder Dave Portnoy is in talks to join Fox’s Big Noon Saturday. Is this Fox’s answer to Pat McAfee, and will Urban Meyer attempt to strangle the VERY outspoken Michigan Man on the set? Watch our show LIVE on YouTube, Monday-Friday at 9:30 am et! https://youtube.com/live/g4PM-bxkq2Y

the welcome to any area on three and well we should probably just let you I drink what's leaded off. He's let it off so well as morning with that I know there's a lot of burning questions in this room by the

fourteen of you all that showed up. But just as a reminder I'm not going to answer any questions about the Epstein files whether about the radiation belt. And whether or not it was possible for Lee Harvey Oswald to get three shots off in seconds, seven seconds. I don't have time to answer all those questions, but I will answer questions about Mizzou football. So Eli Drinkert is probably listening more to Joe Rogan than our show.

But hey, good start. That was about ten minutes ago. He's currently talking about how I thought initially he was talking about a 30 team playoff, but he was he was actually talking more about a 16 team playoff with automatic bids, which his league is against. But sounds like he might be on the Big 10 team here and play in games where there's like 30 teams that are kind of playing in to get into the tournament. So Tony Petitian and Eli Drinkwitz might get along great, but I can't imagine why the coach in the SEC that might benefit from that system the most would want it. I

can't, I can't imagine. It's like unbelievable because Mizzou would be like one of those teams. Like if it's the top six, like Mizzou could be. Yeah, all politics are local baby. Yeah, so um, I love it when coaches disagree with their commissioner, but like I also don't know if like situating Mizzou is uh, Greg Sankey's number one point. No, and Eli is in the minority among SEC coaches on this. They're pretty. And I'm assuming that the other people who agree with Eli are at programs that also could have conceivably

finished six in the SEC. Correct. Yeah. Correct. So listen, you gotta support your own organization. I don't hate it. That's the job. So you didn't play that clip because you wanted to have an in-depth discussion about the Epstein files

I assume no, I'm gonna let the other channels handle that I think there's there's several cable channels that are they're talking about that nonstop. We paid to do We are paid to talk about college football. Oh, I just I think it's more I think it's more deep than that. Oh, okay All right, you know made to garner YouTube views. That's true But I also think there's a lot of people better at garnering YouTube views about the Epstein files than us Yeah, that's not really our area of expertise. I mean, I just remember like my third Journalism class at the University of Arizona was about like localization of stories. I don't know if we can. Oh, we're going to localize it. Okay. Are we localizing that localized that to a college football story? I don't know. But

like I'll think about it. Maybe that'll be tomorrow's show. If we can. I mean, by all means, that's gonna get some views. It's gonna do numbers. So yeah, if you can find a college football personality in the Epstein files, then by all means. Yeah, I don't know if we want to talk about that specifically, but I do think it's absurd that this is happening right during when we're supposed to be like going up like the the the college football ramp right now is kind of being derailed a little bit by other more pressing news and well, it's like we were talking about yesterday.

We talked to someone who had told us that Donald Trump had plans to do something relating to college athletics in June and then the US bombed Iran. So yeah, how many people do you think would otherwise be watching our show right now or watching something about the Epstein files instead? I don't think those people would ever watch our show. I disagree. I think everybody's interested in that. You think everybody's interested in our show? I think everybody's interested. Even I'm semi-interested in what's going on with that.

I mean, you can be interested in two things at once. That's what I'm saying. And I want the people telling you the people who, who fixate on that sort of thing. They're not watching a lot of sports shows. Okay. So if you think it's just not there, but maybe the audience at all, I think the chat will back me up here. You guys are here because you don't want to go do that.

Right. You're about football. Hey, here we go. Raymond Horton. Can that makes me feel good. Thanks Raymond. That picture is not what I would have expected though. So by the way before the show started I put Ari in a bit of a crisis. So Ari was once again regaling us with his lettuce. His hair is spectacular. My wife pulled the, you know, you get a little thin up there.

I'm like, yeah, thanks. Let me see the aerial view. You look good. The thing is I'm not. You might not turn around if you're in a wheelchair, like a wheelie chair. I'm not short so most people can't see the aerial view. So that's good.

Is this where you're sitting here though? That's where it starts. Yeah, it's not, it's not bad. It's not bad. It's just, it's just not the lush carpet it used to be. But I was explaining to Ari that John Matier has much better hair than Ari. And Ari was getting a little self-conscious about it

because the, well, we'll start, we'll start with DJ Lagway, who, you know, obviously has a fate, but he said something yesterday that got me thinking, because someone asked DJ Lagway, the Florida quarterback, what his best attribute as a quarterback is, and his answer intrigued me. My best attribute as a quarterback is really just, I'd just my, as people would say my, I guess, aura, confidence, and just the way I portray myself on game day. My teammates always joke around about,

they say that I'm a totally different person on game day, and that kind of oozes out of me, and it's just great to be able to be that for my guys. That's the perfect description. I like that. Of all the words the kids use these days, I don't know what skibbity means, but. Never heard that word.

I like aura. I like it. It hits for me. Cause it's a nebulous concept. It can kind of mean whatever you want it to mean. But for me, it's that intangible piece that you can't quite put your finger on. But you know, when someone who has it has it for like for Florida, Tim Tebow, ultimate aura guy. Yeah, Cam Newton was an ultimate

aura guy. And orders can be different, but auras aura. Yeah. And everybody can sense it. And we were talking about it last week at Big 12 with Devin Dampierre. You could sense it coming off him hearing him talk. So that got me thinking. The SEC is loaded with high Aura quarterbacks this year.

So who has the most? And obviously, DJ Lagway is up there, but John Mattier was at SEC Media Days yesterday, and he's got spectacular hair and spectacular aura. And now Ari, I want you to look upon this and shutter. I think it's shifted to a more athletic style of play and they say there's two plays in each play. If the first play, the first play don't work you got to be able to make a second play and react and it's super important and it adds a whole another layer to the defense and it makes it a lot of fun for

me and the rest of the offense. It's super frustrating for Coach Venwell's in practice too. No, I'm just kidding. But it's fun. I'm blessed to have that ability. Now look at that little bit of aura dripping off as he says that, but the hair, the hair Ari. Mine's better. Your hair is not better than John Mateers. Yeah, it is.

No. My number one thing that I told you before we started recording, and this isn't necessarily true for his, but I hate when people conflate long hair with good hair. It's not just long. It's also good. Like John Matier has hair that he walks in a room and women faint strictly because of

the hair. If I grew out my hair that long, I would have terrible. You throw would not really, I would have terrible. Not really. I don't know. I like, I already get enough comparisons to, uh, what's the guy's name from Wolf of wall street and super bad. I always forget his name. Jonah Hill. Yeah. That's kind of what would happen. I think. But yeah, great hair, impeccable hair. I'm not, I'm not going to shame him for that. But like the thing that I think aura consists of Andy is like two types, right?

Like there's aura in a media days ballroom and there's more on the field. And I feel like, like before we go into who we think has the best aura in the sec, who do you think has the best aura in the history of college football from the quarterback position? Because I would say it's Johnny football. Johnny football or cam Newton or Tim Tebow, at least in this century. I think and obviously I think there were guys in previous centuries that probably had equal amounts of water.

I mean, that's a lot. There's a lot of quarterbacks. How many quarterbacks could you make a highlight tape out of? While on the field but not in a play. You see what I'm saying? That's true. I'm telling you, Cam fits all, he checks all these boxes too. Yeah, Cam Newton does too.

But you could make a 10 minute highlight video of Johnny Manziel in a football uniform on game day on the field in between the plays. And I think that that to me is aura more than like who's clever, who's charismatic. Like I think that we can conflate those two things. And I think it's the person who teammates instantly magnetized to. Yeah, and that's why Cam is that Johnny football

is that. Tim Tebow is that. Andrew Luck was that like yeah, fans had had a non quarterback in there that I think needs to be in this conversation. That's Teyvon Austin. Yes. I mean, he drew on us. It was responsible for the love of college football for many people today. Like I wonder how many Baker Mayfields in there.

Yeah. Baker Mayfield is an ultimate aura guy. Yeah. But yeah, but when you look at the actual list of players this year in the SEC specifically. Ryan Williams in the SEC this year. Huge aura guy. Yeah.

Diego Pavia stands out to me. Diego Pavia is walking aura. Yeah, he's more aura than he is ability. I think see that's that's a different like cam had. Just superior skills and size and speed and everything else. Johnny football didn't. Andrew Luck did Tim Tebow was sort of a tweener on that front. Pavia is almost all aura, but it works. Yeah, also the question is how much does aura replace great play? Like does Diego Pavia's aura help Vanderbilt in ways that you can't quantify

in a stat book. 100% I agree 100% I agree. I think Garrett Nussmeyer has a lot of aura too. I'm curious to see this this Netflix series because I know they spent a lot of time with Garrett Nussmeyer. I think we're going gonna come off understanding his aura a little bit better too. Yeah, one that we didn't say that a few people have said

in the chat that we need to, Joe Burrow had a ton of it. Oh yeah. Like when he walked out of the tunnel with Burrow, spelled B-U-R-R-E-A-U-X, like that was what I was talking. The Texas A&M game, yes. Smoking of this cigar. Smoking of cigar, like with his legs crossed, like that guy had it. And also too, as somebody who has known Joe Burrow since he was 16 years old,

like that isn't what he was when I knew him. Like he like had a personal, like he was like almost the nerd. He's got some Louisiana in him is what happened. You know, like he showed up, you know, those like weird, um, days that Ohio state does where players report to fall camp and reporters stand outside to take pictures of them. He showed up once, and it might've been a sophomore or freshman year. I can't remember, but Joe burrow was wearing a shirt that had, um,

a wolf on it just howling at the moon. And he was just like this nerdy guy who wanted to play Super Smash Brothers and people called him Joey. And it was kind of like he was the nerd of the team. And then as he got better at football and had a new scenery and got a chance to start and became one of the greatest quarterbacks

in college football history, he grew up from a nerdy boy to like a or a filled man and like he was still nerdy. That's the best part is he was still that nerd. Yeah, and had all this ability. Joe Burrow. Would you think that Joe Burrows a nerd now? Like Joe Burrow, Burrow going to that like all white party for Ruben and like his hair parted and the like outfits that he wears to games now and the glasses and doors like he is not the dude that like he

was when he was a kid. I want to see him rock the the wolf t-shirt in an NFL final walk. I'm trying to see if I can find it online because like everybody was laughing at it it was like all these guys were like walking with like designer clothes and rare Jordans and stuff. And he like got off the bus wearing a shirt that he probably found at like Spencer's in the mall, you know, like it was hilarious. Steve in the chat, Charlie Ward, if we're going to go back in the day,

quarterbacks, Charlie Ward had a ton of aura. And of course, let's not forget the Florida state seminal who defined the word who's currently a head college football coach Deion Sanders. Deion Sanders had the maybe the most aura of any football player. Deion Sanders has so much aura that his aura changed a football program because like I actually think too like in as much respect as Deion Sanders has gotten from me as a coach the last 24 months, 12 months, like a game day on the field, well coached team coach, his number one qualification for being a coach

in general is order. Like that's the first bullet point on his resume. Yeah, I would argue that it's interesting because I was listening to Trevor Lawrence. He was on with with Pardon My Take and he was talking about Dabo. And he's like Dabo is not an X's and O's whiz. His specialty is motivation and team building.

And I was like, maybe Dabo's got that aura too. Yeah, very different. Like I- It's a that aura too. Like. Yeah, very different. Like I do. It's a different kind, but yeah. I'm not no. In no way do I want to compare anyone's aura to Dion Sanders because again, he has more than anyone.

And since he was since he was 18 years old. You can also make the case that like Dion Sanders has more aura than anybody who's ever walked the face of the earth. Like I don't know. I don't know who else you would, you know, I mean, like Mick Jagger. Seriously, that's that's that's the realm we're in here.

In order to have aura, does that mean you have to be cool? You are cool because of the aura that you give off. Is there possible for somebody just to have aura, but not be considered cool? Like Stephen Hawking or something? I don't know. Like, I don't, yeah. I mean, did Stephen Hawking have aura?

I don't know. I don't want to get back into the beginning of the show, but like it is a... Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but like, let me ask you this. And this is not political. Okay. Please don't make it this way. Okay.

Donald Trump, does he have more aura than Deion Sanders? He probably, I think Deion can get elected. Trump picture is ready to go. That's right. Look at River. River's not playing. We did talk about an executive order involving college sports history. So he had the Trump B-roll ready.

But... Condoleezza Rice, go! We did talk about an executive order involving college sports history, so he had the Trump B-roll ready. Condoleezza Rice, go! But no, I'm with you and it's not political. I'm not making this political, but you read up on how presidential elections have worked in the television era. It is, since the dawn of television, like it is how those candidates make you feel. It is much less about what they say and much more about how they make you feel so Donald Trump. I think Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan. They all like Bill Clinton had all that category.

Yeah. I mean Bill Clinton had it all these names that are popping up on the show organically for the beginning of the show is amusing me just so you know. Oh yeah. So if we're going to rank him in the SEC. Or he's like, I how did Stephen Hawking getting a political conversation that quickly? That to me that came up. They came up naturally in the show like that wasn't forced. It did. We didn't force that.

Yeah. Eric in the chat. Bill Clinton and Barack Obama had aura. Tremendous aura. Barack Obama had aura. Yeah, yeah. We're spreading it around the political parties. It's not unique to one party. It's Trump.

I mean, if we're gonna say- We just have one presidential elections because of aura. Right, right. Trump, Obama, Clinton, Reagan, all the above, all aura. So big or guys in the SEC, though. DJ Lagway says his best attribute. I tend to agree with that. He has a big skill set, but I tend to agree with him saying

that aura is his best attribute. Matier definitely seems to have it. Here's one we haven't mentioned yet. You ready? I know who you're going to say. Austin Simmons. Oh, okay. That's not who I thought you were going to say that. So there's two, there's a two prong approach to this now because we know who has it. The second part now is who do we not know has it, who will if they're good? Like- Yeah, Boprabula.

Cause Lenora Sellers we haven't mentioned. Like- Lenora Sellers has Aura. There's no question. I mean, he raises the level of play for, Lenora Sellers is, and I'm sure that Arch Manning does too. Like- I was waiting to get to Arch

cause we got 10 minutes into this conversation and haven't talked to Arch. Arch might have Sigma Chi aura, but I'm very curious, like in a good game, if he breaks off a big run that like helps Texas win or something like how like he because he has kind of got dog in him that I don't think people realize. Right. He's been so hidden and off behind the scenes that like you But you can kind of feel it simmering under the surface, even when you hear him, in the very limited times

we've heard him talk. Because Arch Manning, I'm assuming is aware of a lot of the people who are overly negative about the prospect of him being great. Could you imagine if he was just lurking in the shadows for two years, didn't do very many interviews during as a recruit, and kind of allowed the hype to surround him

without really reveling in it. Because there are so many recruits who lean into that hype and monetize it and try their best to get as many followers. Like Ryder Lyons, for instance, is somebody who has got a huge following online, five-star kid who everybody loves, and he's milking that that and rightfully so.

But then when Arch Manning who patiently waits his turn for four years since the beginning of his recruitment comes out onto the field. And just like is an absolute dog celebrates, talks his shit, does all this stuff that we didn't know existed because he's been in the shadows. And completely embraces, he's like, okay, well, the hype was was real. And then you get to a point where you actually back up that hype and then you become a person that people doesn't know exist would be like the coolest story arc for him to me, literally.

Like, I mean, the story arch, you know, I like it. I like it. No, it's, it's legitimately. I like it. I like it. No, it's it's legitimately fascinating to watch that evolution because He is a very good athlete too. It's not just oh, I'm a pedigree thrower of the football because I'm Peyton and Eli's nephew like He's a very good athlete

He definitely isn't afraid to put his head in there. And I definitely think we're going to see aura from Arch. Boprabula, if he has a bunch of aura could make Missouri quite a bit better. Here's one. Joey Aguilar. If Joey Aguilar, and he displayed, you know, hints of aura at Appalachia State, if he came in and was just Mr. Aura at Tennessee, now we haven't seen much of him. They've intentionally kept him, not Tennessee, but Joey's people too, have intentionally kept him out of the spotlight here because they don't want the kind of backlash that happened with Nico. But imagine what will happen if this guy is the dude. I don't, I don't know

if that's going to happen because I think if he was like that, UCLA would have gone and gotten another quarterback. But just imagine. I wasn't blowing smoke on Tennessee fans. Like if he is even above average, he has a chance to be like Knoxville sweetheart, right? Oh, yeah. And then adding in any sort of celebratory aura to that. Could you imagine like, like, Neeland, if he just like threw for like 380 yards in a big game and like was like doing like the money sign with his fingers and-

I played Georgia week three. Oh, I mean, like, what if Tennessee, just come off to me in the fantasy land, don't shake your head, River. And let's like picture a world wants to imagine this. So it's okay. Where Tennessee is in a tie game with Georgia at home as an undefeated team in week three. And Joey Aguilar makes a big boy down the field throw that sets up like a game winning field goal. And he like runs down the field

with his arms waving and like acts like that. Would that be a top like River knows these more than I do. Would that be a top 10, top five, top one moment in Tennessee football like recent history? Yes. No question whatsoever. None. Georgia is like Hypol's biggest in kryptonite. Yes. And if he did that and that happened, George's everyone's kryptonite to be honest, I may not be available for that Saturday night reaction show. Yeah. Yeah.

I may be in Knoxville. Andy, we like give him a deal right now where like if Tennessee wins that game, he can get that night off or does that just like yes, he's on River. You're Tennessee beats Georgia. You're off. Do we also whatever you do? Like I can't promise that if you get arrested, you won't get fired, but I'll go to bat for you. I don't know how much we need him desperately. So I don't know how good the show would be. We'll cross that bridge when it comes. Dear Shannon Terry, we may have to dip into petty cash to bail River out of jail.

Yeah. If Tennessee beats Georgia, but it's gonna be worth it. Yeah, I hope that for you. I'm not holding my breath, but so rank them though. Let's let's put a bow on this and rank them. OK. OK. So from an aura standpoint right now,

my number one pick would be Diego Pavia, like for the number one overall. Mine also would be Diego Pavia. Then OK, you go to them. OK, I'll go. I'm gonna go lag way here. OK, then I'm going to go sellers. All right.

I'm going to go Nussmeyer. I would have taken the tear above Nussmeyer. Oh, oh, my tears good to see that's that's the problem. I did my big 12 quarterback rankings at on three and I'm running the same problem here where I feel like there's this Diego Pavia. Because he's walking aura like he's the number one here clearly. But the next group is really bunched together and it's the same thing like I had where Sam Levitt was number one in the Big 12 and then the neck like two

through seven was almost impossible. I think in order to have peak aura in the way that I'm viewing it and that's not true it's not true because Joe Burrow didn't run that much, but I feel like the way John Matier plays is more conducive to aura moments. Yeah, I mean, but Joe, don't forget in that 2019 season, Joe was great at evading pressure. Joe kept a lot of plays alive and then would throw to Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase, but he could move around plenty good. Yeah, Jefferson or Jamar Chase, but he could move around plenty good. Yeah, I just picture describes that describes lag way. I think that describes Arch Manning sellers. I mean, there's a clip that's running around a sellers because Dane Bruegler was doing some stuff on L.T. Overton. L.T. Overton is

the Alabama edge rusher. There's a clip where Overton just destroys his man, gets pressure, and then Sellers escapes it. It's more of a Sellers highlight than it is an Overton highlight, but it's a both of them highlight. And so Sellers absolutely has that. Yeah, I was covering a Oklahoma game with Bill Landis in 2016, I think, uh, and Bill Landis said that Baker Mayfield plays like a psychopath and he meant that in a complimentary, the nicest possible way. Yeah. And I feel like the more psychopathic you play, the more aura you have. And like, that's here. So you, you,

you probably should have mature second, probably a little bit higher. I'm maybe I'm making a mistake but like Arch Manning can run Austin Simmons can run Bo Pribula can run I think we know that he was the running package last year. Tyson can move better than people think. Nobody in the conference runs like Mathieu does in the way that he does. Correct, correct. Like he is a he's a weapon in in design runs. He's the way that none of these other guys are. He's the type of person that will put his back to the line of scrimmage and gain 12 yards somehow on the play. Yeah.

I am so excited. That's the Johnny aura that I'm thinking in my head is that Johnny played right? Yeah, like a path. Yeah. I am so excited for this season because of stuff like this. Like, we're gonna get to see all these guys play against each other.

It's gonna be incredible. You know, every college football season's amazing. I've never like watched a college football season and been like, that sucked. It's always good. I think we have a chance this year for this to be one of the more memorable seasons of the past 25 years. Like, and I don't want to like, I don't want to hype it up. Because you never

know. But in terms of quarterback star power, or at least interesting quarterback presence, I cannot recall during my entire career where, like you had these lists, and they were this interesting for every conference. Like even the Big 12 has interesting quarterbacks. The Big 12 has tons of interesting quarterbacks. So there's my QB rankings in the Big 12. It's a good segue there. I had Sam Levitt, number one. Avery Johnson from Kansas State, number two.

Devin Danpere from Utah, three. Soria Robertson from Baylor, four. Rocco Beck from Iowa State, five. Josh Hoover from TCU, six. Jalen Daniels seven from Kansas, Kayden Salter from Colorado eight, Baron Morton from Texas tech nine and Brendan Swartzby from Cincinnati 10. Eight of those guys were above average to excellent quarterbacks in the big 12 last year. Yeah.

Two of them are transferred. Imagine like peak Jalen Daniels two years ago, having him seven on a list two years later. It's unbelievable. And I think you probably get snagged for injury stuff, but any played all 12 games last year. But what's interesting, but the thing about Jalen Daniels is he can be the most exciting or the most maddening. And it's sort of, it's hard to like Sam Levitt plays like a psychopath like you said. Sam Levitt.

Yeah, we do the oral rankings with the Big 12 of the easy Sam Levitt far and away number one. Yeah, Sam Levitt, Avery Johnson, Devin Dam, Pierce, Sawyer Robinson, Rocker Rock, O'Beck, Josh Hoover, Jalen Daniels,

Caden Salters, a hell of a top eight. But I mean, you want to think about like a conference with like entertainment value. Like we always know that like the Big 12 is, and you want to think about like a conference with like entertainment value. Like we always know that like the big 12 is the most, you know, to keep using the word psychopathic conference there is. But if this are these are the quarterbacks in the big 12. And

then you look at your big 10 and SEC lists lists and then you have the ACC out there with guys like Cade Clubnick and I mean, even Thomas Castellanos, I think is something that's interesting to track. Didn't didn't make my top 10. That's what I'm saying. He's even interested. Neither did Miller Moss and the Louisville fans are very mad about that. But Andy, Miller Moss is an interesting quarterback to track and he's not in your top 10 in the ACC. Oh I think Miller Moss could be really good. I just, my thing with Miller Moss, the reason I left him out of the top 10 is it is a red flag when you are a quarterback who does not have success playing for Lincoln Riley.

Because that's what the Louisville fans are like, don't you know how good of a quarterback whisperer Jeff Brahms? I'm like, yeah, I do. But you know who's a better quarterback whisperer historically? Lincoln Riley. Gio Lopez, number seven. Yeah. Like I'm just saying like there isn't a college football game that'll be on in the first weekend where I'm not going to be watching it with my eyes on at least one of the quarterbacks in the game. Like, there is a very quarterback, the deepest quarterback year I can recall.

Yeah, we're looking at this ACC list. I've got Haynes King at number five. Haynes King versus Kayden Salter, week one. That's going to be a good game. Carson Beck versus CJ Carr, week one. That's going to be a good game. Carson Beck versus CJ Carr week one. Yeah, I mean look at this week one game. Every single quarterback on this list is interesting. Well, I okay. Here's here's the week one great games. Let's

Arch Manning versus Julian Sayen saying tie Simpson versus Thomas Castellanos Garrett Nussmeyer versus Kate club Nick CJ car versus Carson Beck Joey Aguilar we think versus Steve Angelli we. Jackson Arnold versus Sawyer Robertson, Haynes King versus Kayden Salter, Kyron Drones versus Lenora Sellers. That's just week one. Okay, week one quarterback matchup, which one are you most intrigued by?

Nussmeyer Klubnik. Yeah? Nussmeyer Klubnik. Yeah, Nussmeyer Klubnik. Now, I mean- Karbek is gonna be something. I love how like you haven't said Arch Sand yet, but I am, you know what might sneaky be my number one? Because knowing players are good

and seeing them be good is an interesting. Yeah. Auburn Baylor I'm telling you. Yeah, I was going I was going we talked about Jackson Arnold a lot yesterday We played all the clips of him at media days. I was doing the big 12 rankings. So Sawyer Robertson Really interesting year last year. Obviously he was He was on Baylor's roster, but the expectation was initially that Daquan Finn would be the starter, the transfer from Toledo. Sir Robertson won that job pretty good through through Baylor's first six games, 7.4 yards per attempt, 12 TD passes,

five picks. Baylor went two and four in those first six games. In Baylor's final seven games, Robertson averaged 8.9 yards per attempt and through 19 touchdown passes with five interceptions and in Baylor went six and one. So that's a man who got comfortable in his, look at the aura in that picture right there. Got comfortable in the offense. Now he and Jake's Babatol have had all year together to build it together. Man, I might have him too low.

Yeah. David randos high on him too. Mm hmm. He's high on boy. Yeah. Every single quarterback in every single one of these teams is an interesting storyline. Obviously Arch Julian Sands probably number one just because.

You know you want to see it. Relatively unknown players who are five stars playing at big time programs. I'd expect to compete for the national title, but you know, as you look around, I think it's a virtual guarantee. That you're going to have three teams, not one three teams, not one, three

teams come out of nowhere because our quarterback's awesome in the playoff race this year. Like last year, who were the come out of nowhere teams? BYU, in Arizona state, and there's one more in there. I can't remember. Well, SMU had Kevin Jennings. Carolina was probably one. But SMU, like there's going to be a lot of teams that we haven't spoken a lot about this this year, this offseason

that are in the playoff hunt that we didn't because you know what, there's so many options, it's hard to pick which one's going to be the winning ticket. It's it's gonna be amazing. I cannot wait. I can't wait. We got the ACC QB rankings up. I have Gio Lopez there at seven. He's the South Alabama transfer who's going to North Carolina. But Tar Heel's also in the news for other reasons.

Four Star Safety, Jacob Weatherspoon, class of 26, was committed to Ohio State. He's from Ohio. He flipped to North Carolina yesterday. Ari, this was not one of those cases where Ohio State said, no, we're good. You can go. They wanted him. Now there's some stuff with his recruitment where he took a trip to Penn State and he took a trip to North Carolina. It wasn't, you know, it wasn't as forthcoming as usual, but

this is pretty big. This is the first Bill Belichick flipping somebody from a superpower, and the superpower wanted them. Yeah, I think during the entire Urban Meyer era, you could count on one or two hands how many players with legit Ohio State offers in the state of Ohio went to another school. Jackson Carmen De Clemson. That was one. There was another lineman from Cincinnati that went to Notre Dame. Kramer, Tommy Kramer.

Remember him? Yeah, I can't remember all of them. Oh, yeah, I can't remember all of them. Oh, yeah, I can't remember all of them. Mack Brown got a linebacker in 10 years to come to Texas, but that was in the Trissel era, right? Yeah, but that was the first big deal, and I can't remember that kid's name. I have no memory.

Dallas, was it something Dallas? I can't remember. No, because I believe his last name was Hicks. Oh, yes. was Hicks. Oh yes, Jordan Hicks. Yes, there you go. I don't know that this is obviously one of them because it happens very few.

I don't follow Ohio State recruiting as closely as I used to as a beat writer. So I can't like speak as fact, but I think it's been rare for Ryan Day to lose people in Ohio. Now I think that this might be the most important piece of UNC's class and I think this might have been a bottom half important piece for Ohio State's class. This isn't like losing Jackson Carman. This is but this but this this is the point of this. This is what I think makes this interesting because I was reading you know on Letterman row or Ohio State cited on three

it's reading the message boards and people saying oh you know we got to we got to be serious about NIL. This isn't a case of Ohio State not being serious about NIL. Ohio State's been willing to spend money. It's and I've said this all along, even if there's no cap, everyone has a budget, even Ohio State, even Texas, even Oregon, everyone has a budget and your best current players are going to get the most money. Your highest profile recruits or the ones you have decided are your most valuable recruits are going to get the most and then the ones that aren't as valuable. You are not going to give them as much. Someone else may find them more valuable than you do. Like you could be the number one player in North Carolina's class or the number 16 player in Ohio State's class.

Well, you're going to get more money is the number one player in North Carolina's class. That's just economics. So this is why we keep saying it's going to be really hard for programs like Ohio State to do what they did last year and have the kind roster they had last year. You just can't stack guys like this anymore. If somebody, uh, thinks that the 13th best player in Ohio States class or the ninth best player in Ohio States class should be the number one player in their

class and are willing to overspend or spend more than Ohio State's willing to allocate to the ninth best player. That's why it's impossible to do what you used to do, which is reiterating what you just said. But like that's the, and also too, if Ohio State thinks that he's the eighth best player or the eighth or ninth most important player in their class in North Carolina thinks they're number one,

this also comes down to your Pittsburgh Pirates stuff, which is who evaluated that player better. Mm-hmm. Yep. Now Pittsburgh Pirates bad example, because Paul Skeens has an area of like 1.98 and he's four and eight. No, I just mean like, I just mean like that the Pittsburgh Pirates with with savvy versus no versus no money, which is what they had before. Matt Brown, I think said what their their budget was for

players last year, I want to say it was like three and a half million dollars We know because we've seen bill Belichick's contract That they have was it 12 million. Mm-hmm In revs chairman that doesn't even count in IL so North Carolina has a lot more to spend than they ever had before And they also have bill Belichick to sell. Which I think matters like,

because here's the thing. Steve Wolfong are recruiting guru. He was posting on the message boards at Letterman Rowan and he said, you know for Ohio State, Weatherspoon is kind of a take and develop guy like he doesn't start right away, play special teams,

and then he becomes a starter and Steve said North Carolina is looking at him differently. Whereas, so now you decide, do you want to make less money, sit at Ohio state or make more money, play immediately in North Carolina and Oh, by the way, you're playing for Bill Belichick. Right. And also to have a chance to develop faster and become a star somewhere else where you might have to wait three years.

I see that. And also while getting paid more. Right. Because it's not like you're not going to the NFL from North Carolina. And the thing Bill Belichick can do that other coaches can't is he can say, I can develop you for the NFL. And there's really no argument that the other school can make against that. Right. Like, it's one thing if Tennessee says, you know, we're going to develop you for the NFL. Here are the DBS we've put in the NFL. And you have to sort of just gauge that. All right. They have put these DB's in the NFL,

but Ohio State has put more DB's in the NFL. And that is what I'm going on. When Bill Belichick says it, even though he's never coached a college game, you're like, Oh, I trust Bill Belichick to know what a good NFL DB looks like. Yeah. you know what I never understood? If you coached in the NFL or you won Super Bowls, does that make you qualified to sell developing for the NFL? It doesn't make you qualify for that. It makes you qualified to say I know what what this looks like or what it

takes and I'm going to make you that. Yeah, because I always just thought like, well, if you're a good drafter or all that stuff, it doesn't mean that you're good at taking a high school player and making them that. It means that you're going to find them when they're ready to be in the NFL. It's a different skill set. It is a very different skill set. And we don't know that Bill Belcher can do that. But I do think if you are the player, they can make a pretty compelling argument.

I do think that like I would trust Kirby, Smarter Ryan Day to develop me for the NFL more than I would right now. Right? Like, so like that to me is that's the point I'm making. Like a person that's repeatedly, I think that a person that's repeatedly created draft picks out of highly rated players is a more compelling sales pitch to me than playing for somebody who won a bunch of Super Bowls.

But what if I gave you more money and you could play right now? That would help. And that's, there's multiple levers here that these coaches can pull and that's what's getting pulled here. Yeah. And now Ohio State's getting pulled here. Yeah. And now Ohio State's class will be incrementally worse and UNCs will be better and then on the field Ohio State will be incrementally worse and UNC will

be a little bit better in four years. Right, and we're not saying that this means North Carolina will be better than Ohio State in four years. We're just saying Ohio State is not going to have backups that are better than North Carolina starters anymore, which is what they going to have backups that are better than North Carolina starters anymore, which is what they used to have.

Yeah. Like Ohio State used to have North Carolina's starting corner on the bench. Hmm. It's amazing. Alabama was the same way in the same era. I always wondered, like in 2012 Alabama, if you made the twos on the 2012 Alabama team a team and had them play in the SEC, what would their record be? Nine and three.

I think you're right. Yeah. We used to play this game when I was on the Ohio State beat all the time. And we thought that Ohio State's 2D could could have won the big 10 at certain eras. Like where it would have actually beaten Ohio state starters. No, no, I'm saying the whole season together. If you took Ohio state's starters out of the equation and then Ohio state was just there too deep.

Yeah. Or what if you sent, what if you sent the Ohio state too deep to the ACC or something like that? That would have been incredible. It doesn't really, it didn't really quite play in the SEC in 2016, but in 2016 or 15, 16 is a funny year to choose. Cause they didn't even win the big 10 and the six and they're starters. And then 16.

Well, 15 didn't win either, but that's, that might've been urban Myers, most talented team. Yeah. Fifth, wait, 15 didn't win the big 10 championship. Oh no. If you face the mission. Yeah. Yeah, 15 didn't win the Big Ten Championship. Oh no, they lost the Michigan State. Yeah. But there were times in the 13, 12, 14, 17 era maybe that they could have won the Big Ten.

Yeah, it is crazy. And 19 more backups probably could have won it. Oh yeah, that team was great. So that's what we're in now where this gives North Carolina. Now North Carolina can't do this with that many players like and they're not going to be able to pick off somebody that Ohio State considers a top five in our class recruit. Yeah the point of Amadillo for Georgia isn't that like Tavian. Clair is going to start going to North Carolina. That's not the point.

The point is whether or not Ohio State's, the bottom half of Ohio State's class is ever going to be as deep as it used to be. And I illustrated this when writing about Georgia last week. I think Georgia has eight or nine three-star prospects committed right now. And they never signed more than six during the entire Kirby Smart era. Like yeah, again, that might just be an anomaly or that they find these three star prospects from a evaluation standpoint to be undervalued.

And I'm sure that's probably true. Alabama's is like that too. We talked about Alabama's hot streak and how they got all these top 100 guys. But if you look, it falls off much quicker than the Sabin classes fell off. And that's not Kailin DeVore's fault. That is the system now.

That is how it works because you can't, like Saban would have classes where the 21st guy in the class is like 244th in the country. Right. And that would be the number one player in like 80% of the other classes. And like, that's why when people used to say recruiting rankings don't matter,

it used to drive me insane. Cause it's like, you can't look at Alabama's class, even if 70% are hits and 30 are misses, like even 70% is still seven to 10 more players on an annual basis a year. So now here's the thing. Also, allow them to make more evaluation mistakes. Yeah, right. Because you didn't have to be 100% on that. If you got 20 players in the top 250 and nine were hits, then you have nine more top 100 players that are better than everybody else's

number one player in their team. Yeah, but the and that was and they didn't miss 50%. That was just me saying that. No, they're in Ohio State always had a great hit rate too. So that's where this comes in. Let's pivot from this. So let's take UNC and Ohio State out of the equation and just like do Tier B teams and Tier A teams and Tier C, Tier A teams. How many in this new era with rev share of the Tier C and Tier B teams will be able to pay more for their top three players than Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Alabama will be able to pay for players 9, 10, and 11. If we go to like 13, 14, and 15, I'd say all of them. Right. So Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, and Alabama are still going to have their top nine players, or their top eight

players in their class are all going to be top top their top nine players or their top eight players in their class are all going to be top 150 players and it's still going to be stacked that way. But now Mississippi is going to have three top 200 players that they wouldn't have otherwise had and North Carolina is going to in Miami and all these different and like tier B is not an insult. These aren't bad. Yeah, these aren't bad programs. These are Tier C programs. Good programs. Yeah. Arizona State going to be able to pay their top five players more than Georgia, Alabama and Ohio State are going to be able to pay their eight through 11 or eight.

So I would say 16 through 25 of the old Nick Saban classes, of the old Urban Meyer classes, they're not going to Alabama or Ohio State anymore. And 16 through 25 was a lot of NFL draft picks, guys. A lot. Yeah. And if you made a mistake in the superpower class class 16 through 25 is a lot of times where your starter came from because maybe the guy you took that was the number eight guy

in your class was not that good. So you can't make as many mistakes. So this is fascinating to me. This is really interesting. I do, yeah, because then even your top eight, the onus on you, you know, being right. Okay. I'm looking at Ohio state's 2017 class for reference. Yeah.

And this is an urban Meyer class. This is really the last full cycle urban Meyer class. And the 17th rated player in that class was an offensive tackle named Thayer Monford who was drafted. Yeah. Very good starter for Ohio State. Yeah. So this is this is where it gets really interesting and this is what the economist told us would happen if you started paying the players. That's why I always laugh when people are like, well, the rich are just going to get richer. No,

they're not because that's not how the world works. Yeah. So we'll see, because, you know, we always said North Carolina is a sleeping giant. But here's the other piece of this to bring it back to North Carolina Ari, you know, pre NIL or early in I L Matt Brown was getting some five star. I think it was a five star corner and that didn't, I think he's still in college somewhere, right? Not Trayvon. Trayvon Grimes played at Ohio State, Florida.

We're talking about Ohio. Storm Duck. There's the defensive tackle who's gone to Kentucky and now is in the UFC that didn't quite pan out. Tony Grimes is the DB. He went to A&M. You know where he is now? Let's play a game. You know where he is now? Is he at West Virginia? Nope. It's fun. It's a fun place. Where is he? UNLV.

Oh, is it UNLV? Oh, he's with Dan Mullin and Was it Calandria from Virginia? He's from Virginia. And Alex Orgy? Was it Kalandria from Virginia? He's from Virginia. And Alex Orji? Tony Grimes is from Virginia Beach and he's a DB at UNLV. And that's like a guy that like the internet broke the day that you in North Carolina got

him. Now, here's the thing. He didn't wind up being as good as he was hyped to be. Right. But, you know, still a toolsy player in a North Carolina was in the mix for some players like that in the Mac Brown era that stopped as the NIL era progressed and North Carolina did not have the money to compete for those players. Now North Carolina does have the money, as do every other school, because they got twenty point five million at least. It's getting split among all their sports. So for football, most of those schools

were talking 12 or 13 million. You know, I came in today needing a column. Is this the column? Do I just like reiterate the same point? I think it's a very interesting column. I think it, you know, because it's Ohio State, because it's Bill Belichick, because it's an Ohio player flipping away from Ohio State.

Like all, it has all of the elements. So you can read that at on three. At some point you watch this video. On Thursday or Friday. Yeah, and for those who don't listen to the podcast, you know, you'll have a nice little thing and thank you to Andy Staples for helping me figure out an idea.

That's my, just so you know, that's my content plan. When do you usually write? I am a, now I'm a, I write usually after the show. Like usually when the show ends, especially if something we talked about struck a nerve, then I start writing. I used to be a late night writer. Before we had kids, I was a write deep into the early morning, you know, start writing at 10 right till two in the morning.

When I was in Ohio and living alone before I met my wife, I would write my columns, my stories. Um, and I guess like this wasn't something that people back in the day could do cause of deadlines, but like I would like write from like 9 p.m. till two in the morning and then like until 11. And now. Because I'm in the stage of life where once we get our daughter down

at 730, eight o'clock, I'm just fried. It's just like it's a level of tired. I didn't know existed. I always write right after our show. And a lot of times I'll like come into the show, like knowing I need to write something, not knowing what I want to write or not knowing what that topic is going to be. And then you and I will have a discussion. And then like right when I shut my laptop after the show's over, I just go

bang it out. Well, and if you do it, if you do it right afterward, right when you've gotten the spark of inspiration, actually go faster, but the column still turns out better, if that makes sense. It's interesting talking to people who hate writing, who struggle to write something, or if they have to do it, they just dread it. The best things I've ever written all came out in like 30 minutes. Oh, for sure. The once I had to labor over always turned out terrible. So I'm not the best reporter in the world. I've got some, you know, weaknesses that you have strengths and stuff, but I think that like, I'm a very strong column writer. Um, and I think part

of the reason why that's the case is because you and I are able to poke holes in the counterpoints and anybody, anytime anybody ever asked me, what are the counterpoint, or like what's the key to writing a good column, mine is to spend the entire column poking holes in the counterpoints that will be in the comments section. And I think talking-

If you know what the arguments are gonna be beforehand, what the questions are gonna be beforehand, and you destroy those arguments in the column, then you've written a good column. And being on the show with you helps me because you poke me when I think something. And then I know, yeah, but like being poked is good. It's important because I think bad columns are ones that are written strongly. And then there are first comment on the thing like the entire column. It blows a hole in the whole thing.

Yeah, you need to be able. It has a good column has to be sturdy. It has to be able to live up to it. It has to make you think even if you don't actually change your mind you're like huh I thought about it like that. The punters are you about to bang one out after this. I'm gonna go clap one out after this. Yeah. Hey, call him. Another piece of news. My birthday's coming up. So, you know, who knows what's gonna happen? Another piece of news that dropped on Wednesday. Well, we talked about Nick Saban. Maybe not. Maybe coming back to coaching. Maybe not but right now, he's at college

game day and doing very well at college game day. So, college game day's competition. Fox's Big Noon Saturday, Big Noon Kickoff. Now it seems that they are beefing up. Barstool Sports founder Dave Portnoy in discussions to join the Big Noon Kickoff crew. So for those who don't know, Dave Portnoy created Barstool Sports. It has become a kind of a media juggernaut. It's a huge media company now. And he's an interesting, he's a Michigan grad.

He's a very outspoken Michigan fan. He's a big time gambler talks about it all the time. And my question to you Ari is at what point is Urban Meyer going to try to strangle Dave Portnoy on the set of Big New Kickoff? You know, the media landscape is changing dramatically. Both like, you and I worked for the athletic in the New York Times. I mean, I almost worked there for a decade. So like I, my brain to a certain extent is still kind of like mapped out in that way and that like, you have to act and behave and say and do certain things in

order to maintain employment in this world. And like now that this is happening, it's like, you don't have to have a standard of anything anymore in terms of like what your past is. Like Dave Portnoy has said things, many things in the past that would have gotten me dismissed or fired from the athletic. He said things that would have gotten him canceled if he didn't own the company. Right.

And like that isn't a disqualifying factor in hiring an on air college football personality anymore. Like it's just the landscape and I'm not this is clearly their attempt. Yeah, to counter program Pat McAfee. And here's here's the thing. I'll tell you this as someone who's came from the writing world. We're trying to make it in this YouTube world. You have to say interesting things. You just do. Like you can't get up there and say boring stuff. He doesn't say boring stuff.

Like they're hiring him to say interesting things and that's going to piss some people off. Well, the thing that's interesting about the comparison between noon and game day is like people have gotten upset repeatedly. And maybe I have Ohio state brain, but people in Columbus and people in general don't like Desmond Howard because he picks Michigan every week and never says anything bad about them. And it's almost like in like Kirk Herbstreet to his, to his credit, having played at Ohio State has done his best to separate himself from that bias.

Now we're at a point where you don't have to anymore. Like you can hire somebody to come on to the show who, I mean, Dave Portnoy is a media mogul and has made millions and millions of dollars doing it his way. I've got to- And is helping either helping fund Michigan NIL deals or connect the funding. He was involved in the Bryce Underwood deal, but he also too isn't a college football expert. Like no, it does not and does not purport to be either and like you could say what you want about McAfee,

but like McAfee played college football. Like he at least has like a college football connection. Like Dave Portnoy's connection to college football is he went to Michigan as a Michigan fan. But like I don't know that he like spends a lot of time like analyzing the game. So it'll be very interesting if this comes through. Like if he's just going to be the clown of the show or if like he's going to take it seriously and try to like immerse himself in actual college ball and talk about it in a professional. I think he's getting hired to say outrageous things.

And if Urban Meyer tries to choke him on air, that'll be good television. I mean, yeah. And I think Dave would tell you that. Yeah, I mean, also, Bruce is going to be involved with this guy, too. So our guy, Bruce Feldman. That's an interesting guy. Bruce plays it down the middle at all times, though. No, no, I our guy Bruce Feldman. That's a that's an interesting.

Bruce plays it down the middle at all times though. No, no, don't worry about Bruce. Like Bruce Feldman, like when you think about like Urban Meyer, Bruce Feldman, and Dave Fortnoy, that's a wide range of personalities. Yeah, it's, it's gonna be interesting. I don't know if it's gonna change that viewership fundamentally. But the other part of it is, and I think this may be the bigger piece of the deal, is you saw that FS1 canceled a bunch of their shows. It sounds like some of the Barstool shows are gonna go onto FS1. So like our friends at Pardon My Take are probably gonna get basically just rebroadcast on linear television, which they don't need that

because they've already got the biggest podcasts in the world, but it's good for them. I'm glad because they got done dirty by ESPN if you don't remember that story. And somebody in the chat here just said too that like, I wonder how many bar stool or stoolers whatever they're called will now watch Big Noon as a result of their fandom of bars.

The stoolies, yeah. I mean, it's a, a it's part of this is is doing what they did with McAfee, what ESPN did with McAfee, because McAfee reached a different audience McAfee reached this audience that we're trying to reach here on YouTube, which is that's where the the bulk of your audience is going to come from in the future. Like Ari, what's the biggest streaming service?

Um, Netflix, right? YouTube. It's YouTube. It's not even close. You mean like the actual like pay streaming? Yeah. Okay. No, I know.

But well, that's the thing is, is it's kind of the same thing, but like, there's going to be an NFL game outside the paywall on YouTube this year. Yeah. YouTube is an absolute monster for sure. Yeah. But it's a, it's a democratic monster because if you don't like, it's up to you to develop your own audience, you will either develop an audience or you won't. And McAfee developed an audience.

The Barstool shows developed an audience. Like that's why these big networks are now going, because the networks know, like their business model is dying. But did, did, and maybe the answer to this is yes. I don't know, but did College Game Day get a boost in ratings as a result of Pat McAfee Show fans watching College Game Day?

I don't know that it got a boot. I think their ratings have slightly improved. You probably give Saban a lot of credit for that too. Yeah, I'm just saying, I don't know like. The show had gotten incredibly stale and it's less stale with Pat. I feel like if you are a part of my take listener, you're not gonna just go make a point

to watch Big Noon kickoff now. Big Noon. Yeah, I don't, that's, that's interesting. I want to see what the dynamic is here. But my guess is, is Dave is supposed to say outrageous things. Like that's the whole... He's a funny dude. Like, I think, I mean, I'm not saying I like or dislike the hire. I'm just making a point that like, we are now putting people on stage in a show. cuz like you remember what big noon's first angle was Yeah, we we're gonna we're all bald. We're all bald You know and we're gonna we're gonna break down plays with coaches with the whiteboard and we're gonna be really really like

meticulous about explaining football. Yeah, let me let me They just explain to the folks how that works. Everybody thinks, and news consumption is like this too. Back in the day, if you asked people what their ideal news show was, they would describe the news hour on PBS. And yet that wasn't the highest rated by any stretch because that's not actually what they wanted.

They said it's what they wanted, but it's not actually what they wanted. They said it's what they wanted, but it's not actually what they wanted. Everybody always talks about, I want deep inside football. No, you don't because that edge NFL matchup show would be the highest rated show on television. If you actually said, if you actually wanted that, yeah, the old Ron Jaworski breaking down plays, like that's not what people actually want. People want to be entertained. They want something funny. My take on like X's and O's stuff is that they're interesting and they're important.

But if I don't understand them myself, then the people who read my stuff don't want it. Don't care to understand it. Because like we've tried in the past even at the athletic and stuff like X's and O's breakdowns and they do okay, but like it doesn't there's breakdowns and they do okay. But like it doesn't, there's no evidence that I've ever seen that people at large, like more people will read a story about the drama of something than they will the explanation of why the play. There's a niche audience that loves the X's and O's.

Yeah. Loves it. But it's not, it's not a general audience. If you want to reach a general audience, you got to reach them with humor, emotion, drama, scandal. That's what everybody wants to see. Yeah. You know what? A new show last night with some, some drama. I don't know if you're watching bachelor in paradise. This, this it's been pretty good for drama.

I hope so. That's the entire point of it. It's an electric show. My kids were asking me about what's, what shows you and your wife watch. And I was like, not, not anything that your parents watch. No, no, we watch, we watch all the shows. Ma are, are like relaxation, like what's the Mormon one that you've been watching? Oh, the secret lives of Mormon wives.

That one's done though. We got to wait till the next season, but we watched trash TV, but we also watch series. Like we watch, I've like, we've watched every good drama series that exists. That's true. You do, you, your scripted tastes are very good. You're, I just, I can't do the reality stuff. But there's two types of vibes at night in our bedroom. Well, sometimes there's a third.

I'm going to back away and let you go. Sometimes there's a third vibe, but the television vibes of we want to put our phones down, lock in, lay down together and watch something dramatic that you can't like. And then also too, there's the vibe of today was a really long day. I'm exhausted. I just want to scroll Instagram reels and watch something that you don't have to pay attention to because like you can watch bachelor in paradise and keep up while also like looking at like Football cards on eBay true. It requires no brain power

If you want to shut your brain off the trash television is good for that and if you want to really get in but like we are We also just started severance last night because everybody's obsessed with severance and my wife and I are not very big sci-fi people, but we're giving it a shot. So my wife gave up on Severance. I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to keep soldier on by myself. You think it's really good. Everybody's like this is the best show. I enjoyed it. I'm still in the middle of season one. I've enjoyed it so far. It's a long hallway. I'll give you that. All right. We got one more thing because I couldn't stop laughing when I saw this from Davos, we need press conference this week. Him talking about running into Brian Kelly in the Redneck Riviera. But maybe not the Brian Kelly he thought. They're on great these little little spot. So my my brother or my sister-in-law, she's saying,

hey, Brian Kelly has a place, his wife has a gift shop right on the corner there in Great Beach. I'm like, oh really? That's pretty cool, you know, no idea. So anyway, we go there and I walk off, I go into the store, and Kath walking in the store Kath buys something because she's trying to support Mrs. Kelly or whatever we're doing so she buys something and we go in the store and I'm walking around I go out And they're like yeah, and he's he's got a concert. He's gonna have a concert in the back So I'm like okay. I'll walk out the back. There's a little stage in the back There's like some I think is like fake grass or whatever look just a small little area. It says Brian Kelly, you know Performing live on this day

Whatever and I'm going freaking a Brian Kelly I didn't know that so I'm like taking pictures And I'm sending it to Brian Kelly I'm sitting I'm sitting I'm sitting all these pictures of Brian Kelly, and then I'm like I'm going you know I'll get on the stage. You know Brian Kelly. You know I'm just kind of having some fun I'm like you know hey, I got and I sent all this to Brian Kelly all right Well, then the guy that was with my brother He's walking over because Cass said something, I don't know what she said,

I just can't believe that Brian Kelly, this is really cool, and she's like, and you know, we know we played them or something in the opener or whatever to the guy, and he's like, he's like, what? And as it turns out, there's another Brian Kelly. And he's like, he's the, he's, what's the band? Anybody know?

It's something, Florida Georgia Line or something. I think it's called Florida Georgia Line or Georgia Florida Line band. Florida Georgia Line band and he's like a lead singer or something. I've even heard their songs but I don't, I don't know all these people's names. But I have no clue. So in the meantime, so now I'm the cat goes babe it's Brian Kelly's a singer with Florida Georgia Line and I went what I've been fired all these pictures off to Brian Kelly he's over probably going what the hell this

is an idiot what does this dude do it so anyway good spirit he doesn't know this he'll know this now but he I was to wait and tell him this when we got to midfield or whatever, but this will save me the time. We can just laugh about it. So I'm thinking this is like the Brian Kelly. I'm like, wow, he's going to perform live, a small crowd. His wife's got a shop. And so finally he sends me a text.

He's like, yeah, he's like, man, that was great. He said, yeah, you just can't get away from Brian Kelly or something like that. And I'm sure he was like, I have no idea what the context of this is. But anyway, I just, and then I realized that it was, and I'm like, oh my God. So anyway, we'll have a laugh over that.

It's so on brand that Dabo does not know who Florida Georgia Lion is. Like you don't know who anybody is and you know Florida George Line, right? I've heard of the band name, but if you would have like my life depended on like naming the lead singer's name, I would never be able to know. I didn't know the guy's name either.

Yeah. Apparently broke up because of political differences. Oh, you'll never do that. Ari, you and I are never breaking up because of political differences. Yeah, I was trying to come up with a clever joke there. I couldn't come up with one. So sorry about that.

But it is so on brand that Davos, we need to not even know who Florida George's like the big joker on Clemson's football program is Davos. We need musical tastes sort of end in like 1993. Uh, that's, I mean, that's just getting older though. Everyone's kind of like that. just getting older though. Everyone's kind of like that. My musical taste like land like ended in 2011. But they still went to 2011. I know, but I'm younger than him.

Well, I just can you imagine Brian Kelly, the LSU coach getting all these texts like, what is this maniac doing? I have to play him week one. Yeah. Also to somebody in the chat here, Eric D. Dabo is confident in his team. Look at his mannerisms. It's like, you kind of got to, I was kind of feeling the same way too of like,

I don't know that I'd be joking with my week one opponent like that in a way. He has a very good team by the way. I wasn't like feeling good about what I have on my sideline. So that's gonna be- I'm not a good opponent in a way. It's a very good team by the way. I wasn't like feeling good about what I have on my sideline. So, that's going to be a lie because Dabo oozes

aura. That's why this is aura like this. This you know what whatever that he always does this with his hands, you know what and by the way, you know, I'll tell you what. Oh, tremendous. Hey, dear Andy, dear Ari, tomorrow, get your questions in. Andy, underscore Staples on social media, at Ari Wasserman on social media,

Andy Staples on three at gmail.com, Ari.wasserman at on three.com. Send in those emails. We already got some really good questions. I'm gonna have a hard time picking them this week. I can tell you right now. But if you have a burning question, fire it in there. We definitely need you to help guide us because you are the best looking, smartest, most engaging, Dare I say, listeners slash viewers who have the most aura of anyone in all of podcast

slash YouTube land. We'll talk to you tomorrow.