Andy & Ari On3 - Will a top QB recruit FLIP to Coach Prime and Colorado? | Dana Holgorsen is the new OC at Nebraska

Episode Date: November 12, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:46 Playoffs? We got, as you mentioned yesterday Art, we're not gonna get totally wrapped up in the playoff picture. We gotta talk about a game involving two teams that are definitely not going to the playoff that are trying to get bowl eligible. That would be Nebraska and USC.
Starting point is 00:02:02 But first, let's talk about a team that does still have a playoff opportunity, but also is looking toward next season. And again, perhaps you and I were wrong about this team. I realize we've said this a few times in the last few weeks, but I think we may need to say it again. Dion Sanders in Colorado. It appears. Maybe on the verge of flipping one of the most sought after quarterbacks in the 2025 class of Julian Lewis from Carrollton, Georgia has been committed to USC for months. But Colorado has never given up on him. Indiana has never given up on him.
Starting point is 00:02:42 On Monday on three Steve Wililtfong and Chad Simmons, recruiting experts, the best in the business. They logged expert predictions for Colorado to flip Julian Lewis to their 2025 class. Let's play that clip from the Wiltfong whip around on the On3 recruits channel. Do we not have that clip? Okay, we will have that clip shortly. But see well, the best recruiting reporter in the biz, he is reporting that he believes Julian Lewis will flip
Starting point is 00:03:20 to Colorado. Julian Lewis is supposed to go to the Indiana Michigan game at on an official visit Ari and he did not. He's gone to Colorado a bunch of times and it looks like USC may be moving on to Houssaint Long Street, the Texas A&M commit. So this could be very interesting. Yeah, there's a lot to unpack here with Lewis. So let's take our time, especially because like, this is all really exciting for Colorado.
Starting point is 00:03:48 But like, I also think there's an interesting USC angle here too, because like that is supposed to be the one thing that Lincoln Riley does really well. And yeah, we'll get to that. But first, not to relitigate or open up my criticisms of Deion Sanders, but we have to at least illustrate them so I can apologize. My number one criticism of Deion Sanders was never that he can't coach, that he can't fill out a staff, that he can't harbor a good environment for his players, that he cannot promote his players' brands, all the wonderful things that he could do I've always been on board with.
Starting point is 00:04:27 The thing that irritated me about Deion Sanders' plan was that I thought his number one qualification for being a college football coach at this level, and even to a certain extent, Jackson State was his fame, his notoriety, and the way he moves the needle in talent accumulation. It still bothers me that he doesn't go on visits and engage in the recruiting realm of it at the high the type of recruiting classes that could sign in the big 12 and thus making seasons like this expected not out of the ordinary that said If you are going to flip a five-star quarterback from USC That makes me feel like you plan to be there for a while, which I would have bet a lot of money that he wouldn't be there next year.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Just as a result of the way that it's on the outfit. The first take crew's getting him hired by the Cowboys. Cause that's their dream scenario. The first take dream scenario is that Deion Sanders is the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. I don't think that's gonna happen. It certainly seems to me like Deion Sanders is acting very coach of the Dallas Cowboys. I don't think it's going to happen. It certainly seems to me like Dion Sanders is acting very much like he intends to be Colorado's coach in 2025.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Here is our guy Steve Wiltfong explaining why he's calling this flip with Josh Newberg on the On 3 Recruits channel. Oh, Target is bigger on the board right now than quarterback Julian Lewis. He did not show up for his visit in Indiana over the weekend. So what are your sources saying right now on Julian Lewis? Well, Colorado did not sign a quarterback in the 2024 cycle. Julian Lewis has been their top target here in 2025. He has taken four visits to Boulder this calendar year, all four trips
Starting point is 00:06:26 coming after he committed to USC back in August of 2023. I think there is confidence around Colorado, there always has been, that Julian Lewis will ultimately be in the fold for the Buffaloes. You saw that picture from his official visit where Shador Sanders is dropping the keys into his hand Passing the torch as you would say from him to Julian Lewis, Colorado is the best chance for him to start as a true freshman He's been to spring practice. He's been to a game. He was there for the exciting win over Cincinnati He has seen this program turn around I think the season more than anything has really
Starting point is 00:07:06 elevated Colorado's position because coming into the season they were a four and eight football team talking about what they were going to be. Now they're seven and two and they're in the mix to make the college football playoff win their conference. So that is Steve Wiltong on the Wilfong Whip around on the on three recruits channel. If you're not subscribed to the on three recruits channel by all means go subscribe there because you you're finding out about stuff like this as it's happening. That was on Wilfong Whip around on Monday and it is pretty big news already because you know
Starting point is 00:07:42 this is this is a guy that Colorado has been pursuing pretty much the entire cycle and You know, it's interesting cuz like we've talked about how Lincoln Riley recruits quarterbacks at USC Well, and when he was at Oklahoma like he has this guy and that's his guy and he does not moving off that but Dion was not giving up on the idea of getting Julian Lewis to Colorado. Yeah. And like Deion Sanders has proven year after year that he can get a splash, right? Like every year he's been a head coach.
Starting point is 00:08:16 He's got a splash. Um, so this is not on the surface surprising in the sense that like he's never done this before. I mean, we got, we're talking about a coach who signed, um, Travis Hunter to a FCS school. So that's great. What I think is interesting is, is that he's doing it at the most critical position at a time in which a lot of people, including myself, question whether he was in that seat as Colorado's coach for the long haul. he was in that seat as Colorado's coach for the long haul. Um, that said, I put them in my playoff bracket this week.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Uh, I couldn't believe that I was doing that, but they earned that. They're good enough to be there. And I think they're going to be there. Um, and he's recruiting quarterback from Georgia away from USC. It's like, he's doing the things that you're supposed to do if you want to stay there for a long time. So like my temperament as a person in this position is to always acknowledge that when my opinions or takes have been wrong and
Starting point is 00:09:15 I don't know that I'm a hundred percent there in the sense that like I think he could do this with 20 kids a cycle instead of one. But I also feel like maybe he is just building it in a way that is possible when I would have thought it was impossible. So like, I feel like I was wrong about Deon. But maybe I'm wrong about, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I was definitely wrong about Deon, as it pertains to longevity and desire to be a successful coach and all those things. But I think I was also wrong about what you need to do in order to be a successful coach and all those things. But I think I was also wrong about what you need to do in order to be a really good team. Now, I don't know that they're gonna be able to do it
Starting point is 00:09:50 this way and beat Alabama and Georgia and Ohio State and Oregon and all the teams that get those 15 to 20 really good players a year. We just watch Ole Miss do it. Yeah, so that is the second part of this, which is can Colorado exist enough in the portal to get juice wells and Walter Nolan and all those guys the way that Ole Miss did from an NIL standpoint, which is out of his control.
Starting point is 00:10:14 So but not with the rev share coming. It's not as out of his control. Like he's going to have money to spend in the portal that he didn't have before. And I think that's the part a lot of people are not considering. They're considering that only the schools that have done NIL really well, like Oregon, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Texas, Ohio state now, uh, that, that they're going to be the ones that, that grab all the transfers every year. Well, now everybody's going to have money. And it's not going to be that everybody's going to have the most money. Like Ohio State will still have the most money and Oregon
Starting point is 00:10:52 will still have the most money and Tennessee will still have the most money. But everybody's going to have some money now. Whereas you had schools before in Colorado, I think would fall into this category where they didn't really have a lot of NIL money to spend. They spit like this is where I will give definitely give flowers. They spin it well this season. Much better than last season. So I don't know that they need to do this with 20 high school players a year.
Starting point is 00:11:21 They might only need to do it with five or 10. And if you look like Jordan Seton is starting as a freshman, that was their splash recruit last year where they number one offensive tackle recruiting the country. He's starting, he's getting better every week. Dralyn Miller is a freshman right now that they're carving out kind of a Debo Samuel kind of role for him on the offense, which is pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:11:42 And so they're showing these kids that if they come, there's playing time available. And I think with Julian Lewis, it's an obvious thing. They don't have an heir apparent on the roster for Chedure. So somebody's gotta start at QB for them next year. Why not Julian Lewis? Yeah, also too. I feel like the quarterback position, you probably could get the best discount.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Um, because being the quarterback at Deon Sanders, Colorado is probably a pretty lucrative position just based on the, the brand that you create doing that. Um, the thing that I think is interesting is, and I don't even know if it's funny that we're having the conversation and the fact that we're even having it shows that I was wrong. But Andy, you mentioned Ole Miss, right? Like we watched them go out and play Georgia
Starting point is 00:12:36 and beat the crap out of them. And Ole Miss got to this point in large part because of the players they brought in through the portal in the off season. But the thing that we have to also acknowledge is that through the last four recruiting cycles, the lowest rated class that Ole Miss has signed is 22nd. Like they're still bringing in a lot of players at the high school level, and some of them are leaving and some of them are staying,
Starting point is 00:13:01 but they are bringing a baseline of talent year over year. That gives them the foundation on their roster to be able to accentuate their roster well enough to beat Georgia. And I don't know if the Colorado expectation should be to go beat Georgia. That's not even a fair thing to be talking about in year two of Colorado's existence. My whole thought process with Dion, and it remains to be the case, is that if he were able to sign a top 22, 20, 17, 24 classes in four consecutive years and then do what he's been doing in the portal, Colorado might actually be a national championship contender. Now maybe we're building to that, but I also, maybe Dion will be the first coach ever to sign a top 20 class without doing it traditionally too, which you have to stay open to. So, and we also, this is something, and we've talked about this internally on three.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I'm sure the other services have talked about it as well. evaluating how we rank classes. Because your portal class now has to be considered in that. And it really needs to like the totality of your roster needs to be considered. And not necessarily how the because we actually have a chance to do it more accurately now. Because it used to be those cumulative totals were still based on what they were ranked coming out of high school. I think now that we'll have these guys in the portal where we've had a chance to see them play in college and we can
Starting point is 00:14:31 actually evaluate them better as college football players, it allows us to create a more accurate total talent evaluation for a roster. Now, it's not necessarily an easy process to meld those things together and try to rank them. But I do think that would be a good way to try to do it because, you know, where is old Mrs. Roster from a talent standpoint? You and I stood on that field on Saturday and said, this is a top five roster in the whole country that if they get in the playoff, they can go toe to toe with any team physically.
Starting point is 00:15:06 So, where, let me put you on a spot. But their high school recruiting would not tell you that. For sure. Let me put you on the spot, and I don't think there's any way for you to accurately answer this. It's just an estimation and a guess, and it's a podcast, and we're having fun. Yeah. If you had to guess about Colorado's
Starting point is 00:15:26 cumulative talent as it pertains to the whole picture, Portal and high school, where do you think that that would rank if you had to guess? In the country? Yeah. I would think it would be in the, probably in the low 20s. Because you have the very high top top in talent that pulls it up. And then you have some, some good players that you're seeing played well now. They have two five stars on their team. Right. Am I forgetting anyone?
Starting point is 00:15:58 Uh, they've Jordan Seton and Travis Hunter, the two five stars. Yeah. And then she was a four star, but they're also getting high end production from guys like LeJonte Wester and Jimmy Horn and LeJonte Wester started at Florida Atlantic. But when LeJonte Wester left Florida Atlantic, you knew he was a good college football player. Like he was an excellent receiver. At Florida. The problem with that is how do you rank that?
Starting point is 00:16:21 Like that's going to be the number one battle that all the services have of like, yeah, if you go get a player in the portal, like how do you rank a player who hasn't played yet, who, you know, it may be a lot of reporting of like, hey, he wasn't doing things the right way, or he was great. We just had too many people in his position. Like a lot of times, like Jordan Addison going to USC, I think we knew that they got a really good player. We knew like, so but I think that the Jordan Addison's of the world are probably rarer. It's the people that you don't really see. Like, for instance, how would you rate the edge rushers that Colorado brought in? I mean, how do you
Starting point is 00:16:58 even rate Colorado's entire roster flip? They flipped 50 players off their team. Like you can you imagine trying to accurately rank that? Well, I think if we were ranking defensive lines right now, or if we were ranking edge rusher groups, like we just did edge rusher groups, obviously South Carolina would be way up there, Ohio State would be way up there, Tennessee would be way up there,
Starting point is 00:17:21 Ole Miss would be a way up there, but Colorado would also be way up there. Like they would be a way up there. But Colorado would also be way up there. Like they would be in the top five or 10. But the problem I'm outlining here is that, okay, because they lead the big 12 in sacks, right? And that's a perfect way to illustrate this. So if you would put Colorado's pass rush in between 15 and five somewhere,
Starting point is 00:17:40 where do you think that we would have ranked them in August before they played? We wouldn't, we would have ranked them in August before they played? We wouldn't. We would have put them, now we would have put them probably in the 20s because you know, like BJ Green, we'd seen him do things, good things at, at Arizona. Dejan Hayes, we'd seen him at Arizona State, excuse me. Dejan Hayes, we'd seen him do good things at Pitt. So we knew those were good players. I mean, that was what, remember, if you go back to the videos I made after Big 12 media days, I was like, Dion loves his D line.
Starting point is 00:18:13 And you can see why. It's his old line that he's worried about. And he was, and now he's less worried about it clearly. But yeah, it is a tough, it's a tough eval. And this is this is tougher if you're actually paid to coach and take those players and turn them into a team that needs to win right now. And that's the challenge now. It's not just what can you get out of high school. I was talking about this with somebody last night, you know, used to be, if you had a couple down recruiting classes in a row, you were in deep trouble for a long time. Like you had years, you had years to dig out. You can
Starting point is 00:18:53 change it immediately now. Yeah. Do you still think when you analyze Colorado, and I'm just like kind of workshopping this thought process with you because I'm gonna write about it when we're done. That the number of players that Deion flips from his roster from a year to year basis should decrease as he stays there? Yes, because it will be guys, it will be more like his guys that he brought in. And I think one thing that Lane Kiffin has shown you at Ole Miss is you can use the transfer portal to create a base of your own guys,
Starting point is 00:19:32 even if they came from somewhere else. You know, Jared Ivy, we don't look at him as a guy who started his career at Georgia Tech. Like he's an Ole Miss player. He's been at Ole Miss for three years now. Jackson Dart, we don't look at as a guy who started his career at USC. He's an Ole Miss player. So if Dion gets some of these guys that have three years of eligibility left and they come to Colorado,
Starting point is 00:19:57 if they're two years from now, we're just looking at them as Colorado players. Yeah, for sure. I don't think he's gonna to go as like a lot of it was last year. They had to flip the roster when they got there and it didn't work out as well as they wanted so they needed to change. Now they're having some success. So I would think you're not running off a bunch of the guys that are on this roster. Like you want them back because they've been very successful for you.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Yeah, so I just remember last year too, when Florida State was really, really good and we were having these types of discussions in November, me and you on separate podcasts, but we were both talking about it. Yeah. That that was kind of like, did Florida State crack the code
Starting point is 00:20:40 of how to win without recruiting well? You know, and then- And they had done that with some, like I said about Ole Miss, with some guys that had been there for a while. Fabian Lovett, I had almost forgotten that he even played for Mississippi State. Jordan Travis, I had almost forgotten that he played at Louisville. That part of it, they had their guys, even if they'd come from somewhere else. And like Jordan Travis, he transferred when Willie Taggart was the coach.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Yeah. So like, it is. But what happened? You still have to build a foundation, whether you get the guys out of the portal or whether you get the guys out of high school, you still do need kind of a foundation of your guys to sustain success. you get the guys out of high school, you still do need kind of a foundation of your guys to sustain success. I also don't know the answer of the number of players
Starting point is 00:21:29 that Colorado brought in that have remaining eligibility after this year. Like, is that a high percentage of guys? I'm looking at the depth chart. They're pretty old in terms of the guys who are, but, you know, offensive line, they've got a freshman starting. They've got a sophomore starting. Like most good teams only bring back a couple starting offensive linemen. Yeah. And mostly Taylor here, the old offensive linemen tend to be good.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Said that FSUs were all seniors or NFL players, right? And that's true. Yeah. But if you're doing it the right way, and your plan is to bring guys in who are on your roster for three years, and you forget where they started, then why did the bottom fall out? Like you have to do that every single year. Like it doesn't like you it's still if you're not going to recruit high school kids at a high level or sign a bunch of kids, then you have to use the portal as your recruiting classes, you have to replenish the talent or the bottom will fall out.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Yeah, I mean, like this defensive line that we're talking about with Colorado that's so great, they will have to replenish that next year. Yeah, and they're gonna have to replenish Travis Hunter. It will not be the same. And they're gonna have to replenish Shador Sanders. And I don't know what is gonna happen with some of those receivers outside of Hunter,
Starting point is 00:22:42 but like that's the thing. It's like, I think that we have proven definitively, and Dion is the latest example of that, that you can build a winner through the portal for a given year. What we have not proven definitively is that you can build a consistent winner through the portal year over year, which maybe that's fair, because with the portal arrows only what three years old, and we haven't had enough data yet. So maybe we'll get there. But everybody who has been very good as a result of key portal acquisitions, whether they're there for one year or two, has seen the bottom fall out. Like even Mel Tucker's Michigan State is not the same thing. Obviously, other things happen there. Like, it's not the only thing that happened. But like the second Kenneth Walker walked out the door, they stunk. You know what I mean? Like it and in college football, I really do believe, at least in this era now,
Starting point is 00:23:31 it used to be which team had 40 top 100 players on its roster. And now since everybody is kind of working on a thinner layer of talent depth, the teams that have dynamic game changing talents get further with those individual players. And like that's the reason why I'm going to vote for Travis Hunter to win the Heisman. Because without Travis Hunter, Colorado might be still pretty good, but Travis Hunter is the engine of that team. And Travis Hunter is going to be on the Patriots next year. So, what do you... so like the thing to me is like and it gets back to my
Starting point is 00:24:07 criticism, which is if Dion would have hit the recruiting trail gangbusters from day one there, they might have a player that is ready to step in to that role and not the alien role that Travis Hunter plays but a role on both sides of the ball. Yes. I say you're going to get to do that. But yeah, I mean, if Cormonti McClain would have worked out, maybe that would have been what we're talking about. And it didn't. So like the,
Starting point is 00:24:34 the potential is there for him to be Colorado's coach for 20 years. And for Colorado to be a bad-ass program for 15 of those years, right? Like I think that he has as long as Jerry Jones doesn't get a wild hair. That is that real or is that is that I haven't been paying attention to that at all. That's first takes fantasy. That's the first take fantasy. But I saw Finebom was talking about it. Was he on first take?
Starting point is 00:24:58 Well, he was probably talking about it. Listen, we should probably do it, too. Like if we just put Jerry Jones, Dion Sanders in the headline of this video, it would pop off. Yeah. I mean, that would be, that would be crazy. I saw what Paul Finebom said and I didn't know that I, if I agreed with it and I'll kind of paraphrase it, but he said that Deon Sanders is finding out just how hard it is
Starting point is 00:25:22 from a talent perspective and a roster perspective to not only be good or get good, but how hard it would be to maintain that. And you can go find his clip if you're interested in what he said, but like, I actually don't know if this is the time to say that. I think that Deion Sanders is on the verge of finding out that he pandered. I don't know either. Some of their younger guys are playing really well. Like, I just, I think they're probably doing okay. I think I think they're now look, if you're going to be relying on a true freshman quarterback next year, if Julian Lewis is the guy like that, there's obviously a risk inherent in that. But that's not unique to Colorado. That's every program like you still you try to get the best person you can.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And you hope that works out. Like, I'm not going to dig in for that. Because that's honestly what everybody's doing. There's a bunch of programs right now that are good that don't have a clue what they're going to do at quarterback next year. Also starting a five-star player who ranks in the top 50 or the top 25 nationally is not the biggest problem in the big 12 right now.
Starting point is 00:26:22 I think that they would be fine if that happened. And I think that's part of the selling point. Now I am a little disappointed. I'll be honest with you. I think it's great that he's gonna end up at Colorado potentially. Cause Steve- You thought he was gonna go to coach SIGS?
Starting point is 00:26:33 But like that would have been pandemonium. Like, cause like, like- It would have broken your brain from recruiting. Like you can understand him going to play for prime. I can understand that. Like you're an Indiana- Yes. If he would have gone to Indiana and listen,
Starting point is 00:26:46 he didn't go to his visit on Saturday, Andy. But could you imagine how awesome that would have been to see Indiana at its absolute best to improve to 10 and 0 for first time approach? Like you could have left an impression with that visit. So I think he helped Indiana though by taking the visits he has. Like I think it helped Indiana's recruiting profile. So I don't,
Starting point is 00:27:06 I don't think there's any hard feelings there from Indiana to Juju Lewis because he did them, he did them a solid by entertaining this as long as he did. Yeah. And also too, it's a nice reminder that sometimes it doesn't hurt to try because they were, they were, they were all over this kid before they were really good and on the national level. So that would have been crazy. So yeah, but like Colorado has been a huge surprise
Starting point is 00:27:37 and honestly pleasant surprise because I think it's really cool when they're good. And I think that- Watching them and look, I just, Hunter, again, is one of these single best football players we've seen in decades. Never seen anything like we our age have never seen anything like this. There are older people who may have remembered this from when they were kids. But we've never seen anything like this. I get it.
Starting point is 00:28:03 You're gonna tell me, Champ Bailey, Charles Woodson. No, they didn't do this. They didn't do this. Ohio State had Chris Gamble. Who's probably the closest to doing this. Yeah, but it wasn't this. And I don't remember how many snaps Gamble played, but it wasn't any.
Starting point is 00:28:21 He played a lot. He played a lot more than the other guys that we talk about. Gamble had big time touchdown receptions and big time pick sixes in a national championship year. So that's the closest, but he didn't play every snap. I don't think the way that that roster was loaded. Like that Ohio State roster was insanely loaded. Do you want to talk about USC for a second?
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Starting point is 00:29:36 The code is staples, 15% off your order. Fuel up the easy way with Huel today. Let us talk about USC, Ari. easy way with Huel today. Let us talk about USC Ari. Yeah, weird, huh? Is it because it sounds like they're gonna go after Husson Longstreet who is committed to Texas A&M right now. So it sounds like, now I don't know if that's a case
Starting point is 00:30:01 of Lewis telling them I would like to go somewhere else or them saying We've decided we like somebody better Lincoln Riley Historically has never said we would like this person better. He's waited till the person told him I'm going somewhere else Yeah, that's the hard part with recruiting and I don't Envy Steve Wilfong and that in the record recruiting reporting that I've done in the past, it's always, yeah, we didn't want them anyway. You know, that type of thing. Um, after a kid changes his mind or visits somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Yeah. And it's kind of hard to differentiate like whether that's actually true or whether that's just excuse making. But there is a five-star quarterback from Southern California who is committed to A&M right now that's right in their backyard. And like to me, we're gonna have to see how that plays out, right? Because if I were a five star quarterback, what program is more exciting to you right now?
Starting point is 00:30:58 Remember USC is going to Jaden Maiava as their starting quarterback. Jaden Maiava is a lot younger than Miller Moss. If Jayden Myava is good and he's the guy, maybe you don't want to come in in the class of 2025. If you're worried he's going to be the guy for three years or for two years. Yeah. And maybe this Saturday we're going to learn a little thing or two about that. Um, but yeah, I just, the thing that you're supposed to feel good about
Starting point is 00:31:31 with Lincoln Riley is that the quarterback position is never a worry. And maybe it's a naive to think, uh, a naive thing to take advantage, uh, to, to take for granted. Like everybody has quarterback worries and Lincoln Riley isn't above that. But like, it's not really working out right now there. In terms of who played quarterback for them this year, they didn't have somebody in place ready to go that was ready to take over for Caleb.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I know Malachi Nelson was a highly rated recruit that they had that, you know, people thought was the heir apparent, but it turned out that that was not the case. Um, and he has transferred and isn't starting where he transferred. So like, is USC supposed to not know who its quarterback is this year or next year at this point in, in his tenure? Like that's just like a uncomfortable, I'm not saying it's, it can't work out, but I'm saying the fact that it's even a question on November 12th, going into, you know, a month and a half away from, you know, the early signing period isn't necessarily the most comforting thing for SC with all the other issues that they're still facing as well. You knew that the run of great quarterbacks for Lincoln, I would not last forever.
Starting point is 00:32:47 I think about how long that went. Yeah, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, Jalen hurts. Spencer Rattler wasn't bad. And then Kayla Williams comes in. Eventually it was going to you were going to have a year or two where you didn't have a year or two where you didn't have a Heisman Trophy finalist. As your guy.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Probability tells you that. But it is interesting that there's not just another like after a blip, there's not somebody else waiting in the wings. And perhaps that's part of the new reality of college football. Perhaps that's the situation at USC right now where people are just not that excited because this is now two pretty mid years for USC under Lincoln Riley.
Starting point is 00:33:32 They had one good one at the beginning and the last two have been black bluster. So if you're a quarterback who wants to go play for national titles, you're looking at these guys and going, I don't know if I can play for national title with him. Yeah. And like that to me is like the whole thing with Lincoln, right? Like I'm a quarterback, I'm a five star, I want to win a Heisman and I want to get drafted in the first round. Lincoln Riley, automatic.
Starting point is 00:33:59 And the fact that it's just not automatic right now makes you wonder like, Hey, is this guy going to figure it out? I'm sure he will. He deserves the benefit of the doubt in this regard. But like, it's like, we don't know how the long street recruitment is going to go. And it's a pretty attractive place to be right now. So, uh, and may also like, remember Marcel Reed is a redshirt freshman. So that may also be a situation where you're looking at a young guy that they like and going, I'm not sure that job is going to be open for me. Yeah, just looking at the window.
Starting point is 00:34:30 So because they'll obviously like if you come in in the class of 2025, they're also going to sign another quarterback in 26 and another one in 27. But if Marcel reads the starting quarterback in 25 and 26 and maybe 27, if you signed in 25, you're probably covered up. You're probably not playing. So, or if they, I mean, shoot, Colin Klein recruited Avery Johnson at Kansas State. Yep. DJ Lagway's from close. I think DJ Lagway's staying in Florida, but I mean, that's, that was always the fear of Billy Napier got fired at Florida. Would DJ Lagway maybe go to A&M, because that's close.
Starting point is 00:35:06 So this quarterback carousel is going to be wild, because everybody needs one, and I'm not sure there's enough good ones to go around. So just stay alert, keep your head on a swivel. Ari, we got gotta talk about the team that the USC is playing this week because there was big news at Nebraska. But first, I tell you about PrizePix,
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Starting point is 00:37:12 coordinator. And here's what he said. I think you know, called him last week, had him come in, had him kind of look at everything. I think he's got a long history of success offensively both as a head coach but certainly as a coordinator before that and I think he just kind of gives us a fresh perspective on looking at kind of what we're doing and who we're doing it with and and it was able to
Starting point is 00:37:40 sort of say hey let's kind of go in these directions over here. So I just think it gives us a great opportunity to have one of the great, great offensive minds, a guy that I've been friends with before and I trust. And I'm excited to see what he does. So that was quick, cuz that was apparently not the intention originally. And I do believe Matt Ruhl when he says that where they brought Dana Holgerson and former West Virginia and Houston head coach, and he looked at some things and now they're replacing Marcus Satterfield. And I think Marcus Satterfield was going to get fired one way or the other, but
Starting point is 00:38:21 this is, this feels like, Hey, let's give Dana Holgerson a dress rehearsal. And if things go well, we're going to try to throw a bunch of money at him to have him be the OC next year. Yeah, I mean, you kind of read that properly. It just happened quicker, right? Like, I think we both thought it was possible that he would be the coordinator next year get Nebraska's offense humming, and then that would spring bolt him potentially into another head coaching job. But yeah, um, I am always wary of offensive coordinator changes in the middle
Starting point is 00:38:50 of the year because it's a difficult thing to adjust to, but also Dana has been especially, it's not the same offensive family or system at all. So, you know, I think that there probably should be some growing pains, but also too, like Nebraska is just trying to win a game right now, you know, and they're trying to, cause like they are massive underdogs against USC. Like to the point where it was almost like, wow, that's a huge number. And if they lose to USC playing with continent, Iowa, especially Iowa on the road, man, like we are in the danger zone of not making a bowl again.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Like we're, we're right on the precipice of that. So I see the intent here, right? To create a spark, to bring a different perspective, to try to open some things up. But at the same time, too, it feels kind of like a jarring move that has to pay off because it could also go the other way. Yeah, it could blow up. Now, I'm not sure our offense could get much worse than it's looked the past few weeks.
Starting point is 00:39:51 So that's the thing. I go back to Marcus Satterfield. He got asked a few weeks ago about what the ideal yards per play for his offense was, what he was aiming for, and he had no answer for it. And it was a, it's one of those things where he couldn't figure out if he was just kind of stonewalling. Cause he didn't want to actually say what it is. Cause I'm sure most coaches know that, or if he didn't actually know, but either way, it was a bad look. And it was just one of those things where you knew he wasn't going to make it.
Starting point is 00:40:19 But I didn't think they would do this mid season. Like. Is that a stat that offensive coordinators think about? Like I didn't find that to be that egregious. Did you? About not knowing that number? Like that, the response of like, well, what yards per play do you want? I mean. It was more how he didn't answer it.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Like he didn't have a plan to answer it and he made himself look terrible. Like all you have to say is, yes, I can, I have those numbers, but I don't share those publicly. We keep those, we keep those in house. But do you think every American knows? Yeah, that's true. But like, do you think that? Yes. You do. Okay. I didn't didn't know how big of a stat that, like, I mean, obviously... No, I think they all have a pretty good idea of what they want. What do you mean? Yeah. Yeah. And I'd be like, ideally we want 10 yards of play. Maybe 15. I know, but a third grader could have said that. Why didn't he say that then? Yeah, I don't know. I didn't like watch that and go, wow, this guy don't know Shouldn't you be able to think on your feet if you're an often support here Like you got like you got 40 seconds to call play. Well less than that cuz you gotta get lined up Yeah, I guess
Starting point is 00:41:34 So here's Matt rule talking more about Why now why this particular move at this time? Week 11 you make a change like this with somebody that's not even in your building to take over calling the plays? It's probably unique, but it's what's needed. It's the right thing. I think the kind of the genesis of this was,
Starting point is 00:41:59 I think what you're gonna see now as coaches get fired, I think you'll start to see coaches like leaving maybe even before bowl games and coaching bowl games and so the players can have some familiarity with them. And I think that that was kind of in my head of like, hey, I think you've seen coaches take jobs now and then go there and coach the bowl game. When I went to Baylor, I sat out and didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:42:24 And so I didn't really have a chance to know the players till mid-spring and so last Sunday you know I appreciate all the work our staff has done. I love how hard they've grinded and cared about the kids and done their best and you know produced some good moments and I felt but I felt like we needed some help and so I just thought this was the right thing to do. It might be bold, it might be unique. And again, I didn't bring him at first with that. I said, hey, come and see. I think as he got here he felt comfortable.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Marcus walked in right away and was like, tell me everything you need. Glen did the same thing and Garrett said, I can translate this into your language. And you know, so, and then Dana's obviously, he's a smart guy offensively. He can figure out kind of what we're doing and what we do well, so. So the stay for the bowl, like, yeah. The timing of this stuff's gonna change, I think,
Starting point is 00:43:23 especially with the transfer portal opening when it does in December, you probably want next year's OC in there. And the bowl part of it, unspoken by Matt Ruhl, is we gotta make a bowl game first. Mosley asked an interesting question in the chat. Is Ruhl gonna get the coach prime treatment for changing OCs?
Starting point is 00:43:40 At least prime's OC finished the season with Colorado. Mosley, Marcus Satterfield is finishing the season with Nebraska, just like Sean Lewis, he got demoted, staying there. The difference in this situation is Pat Shermer was on Colorado's staff all year last year. Dana Holgersson got to Nebraska last week. So if we're talking about
Starting point is 00:44:00 which is the more desperation move, what Dion did last year or what Matt Ruhl just did, it's what Matt Ruhl just did. That is the more desperation move what Dion did last year or what Matt rule just did. It's what Matt rule just did. That is the bigger desperation move. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. So they were the same. It is the same situation where the guy who got demoted is going to stay there, but he's not going to be there next year. Like Sean Lewis is obviously the head coach at San Diego State. Now Marcus Satterfield will probably be somewhere else next year. I doubt he will be in Nebraska. Ari, we gotta talk about a debate that raged online Monday night that
Starting point is 00:44:33 we've talked about it a few times, but there's a couple fan bases that are just absolutely fed up with it and it should good games start at noon. But first, we gotta talk about Wendy's. You've had Wendy's Nuggets dipped in sauce. Have you had them covered in sauce? Wendy's new saucy Nuggets, take the crispy and spicy Nuggets you love and turn them up to 11.
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Starting point is 00:45:11 Pick a flavor, grab some napkins, and prepare to nug like you have never nugged before. For a whole new way to nug, it's gotta be Wendy's at participating U.S. Wendy's. Ari, it was announced yesterday that Ohio State in Indiana noon kickoff. Now obviously Ohio State Michigan is always a new kickoff, but Ohio State Penn State was a new kickoff. That's why the, the whiteout, which is typically a night game was the Penn State Washington
Starting point is 00:45:34 game on peacock last week. Fox clearly loves the big noon concept. They love putting that best game at noon. Fox clearly loves the big noon concept. They love putting that best game at noon. The fan bases are sick of it. Ohio State is going to play how many noon games this year? Yeah, I mean, every big game they've played this year has been at noon.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Yeah, so they're frustrated. I guess it's two games want to tailgate and they do not want to. They don't it. So they're frustrated. I guess it's true. Go to games, want to tailgate and they do not want to. They don't want to tailgate with eggs. Yeah. Um, the thing that is interesting here is the, the situation of what is best for TV viewership and what is best for fans. And when those things don't line up, the money is gonna win, right? Like I think that the big 10 knowingly went into this agreement with the plan at, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:33 on the table and agreed to it because there's a lot of money involved and TVs dictate that. Now that said, Ohio State fans, and I think Michigan fans last year, cause this happened to Michigan too, when they were the talk of the, of the sport are upset about it. And I think that the reason why you're upset is because you want to have the
Starting point is 00:46:57 late night, big time tiger stadium type atmosphere as the best home field advantage you can to help your team win. So the question, I guess, isn't so much, should the fans be upset? The fans have a right to be upset. Of course they do. Fans are the ones who consume the product. If they don't like something, they're allowed to not like it. But do you think that it puts the teams that are constantly being chosen for Big Noon at a competitive disadvantage because they're not being able to harbor the best atmosphere possible as a result of this?
Starting point is 00:47:33 Well, they are collecting the most money because the Big Ten makes the most money. So that's the trade off. Now, Joel Klatt, who is one of the broadcasters on Fox. He he went to X last night and basically wrote out a defense of this which I I appreciate Joel doing this because he he understands the business part of it and he's acknowledging the business part of it and he said lots of talk about Big Noon Saturday. Here's some things I think you should know. Big Noon Saturday has been the most watched college football window for the last few years. Last year our window averaged almost 7 million viewers per game. I will be curious to see if it still does or does that SEC primetime ABC window take
Starting point is 00:48:14 over. We'll find out. We won't know until the end of this year. Fox Sports saw a clear opportunity to build value in the sport by creating a third window for premium college football. That clearly worked. The big 10 entered the partnership with three network partners, and those partners have exclusivity in that preferred window. And Joel says, you know, prior to Big Noon, this window
Starting point is 00:48:34 and CFP was non existent. It wasn't non existent, but it was the dumping ground for bad games. Like I used to always joke about this. Are you remember before Big Noon kickoff started happening? You'd be watching college game day on ESPN. They're at the site of the biggest game in the country. The crowd is going berserk, but that game wasn't starting until three 30 or seven or eight, but their crowd is going to berserk. They pick the games. Lee Corso puts the mascot head on. going to Berserk, they pick the games, Lee Corso puts the mascot head on, you hear this massive roar from the fans, and then immediately, like Illinois Purdue, you're in Champaign or Evanston, you can hear individual people talking in the stands. Yeah, I think it makes sense, like it's smart to create a third premium window. And honestly, as somebody who watches
Starting point is 00:49:25 football all day on Saturday, I like the idea that every window it's like, okay, noon matters. We got a big game. All right, we got a huge game. This is going to be, you know, it's harder for our jobs because we've got to be on the ball longer. I remember back when in those days it was like, okay, I can't, I don't really have to lock in here until the 14 field and no playoff games at all. You didn't really have to lock into the sport until 330 when the big SEC game started. But I like this as a viewer because you know, you got like a few weeks ago, we got Ohio State and Penn State at noon and then what happened directly after it? Like I think was that the day of the Alabama Tennessee game or something like every week there is a secondary game and then the night games are awesome all the time. And honestly, Andy, with Oregon and some of the teams on the west coast, you almost got a
Starting point is 00:50:15 fourth window. Now one of the best games of the week this week is starting at 10 p.m. Once we're on the show. So like you get it's not just there's football on there's good football on all day. But that's not what we're talking about. We I think that we know and it's been unequivocally proven that this was a savvy business decision from the television market. What we're talking about is should fans be upset about it? And like what do you think the solution to you? I mean, like there's no solution
Starting point is 00:50:40 to this, like they're going to keep doing it, it works. It drives money. And like Ohio state fans wish their games were at night, but like, but here's the number one debate. Andy is that traditionally the big 10 has one or two teams competing for a national championship. And since big noon started, they have latched onto to the biggest brand. And usually nine times out of 10, that's going to be Ohio state because you've seen television
Starting point is 00:51:11 data. If Ohio state's playing any game, it's a top five game, no matter who that is. Which is why you get Ohio state Marshall at noon on Fox when a lot of like that type of game involving Alabama is probably not ABC at three 30 or or in prime time. That game is going somewhere else in the SEC universe because it's not considered as good of a game. The temperament, though, for Fox is. They pick the same team over and over again. Like they picked Ohio State every single week. And I understand why they do it. Yeah, and they rode them to the national title. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:53 And like back in the days where Big Ten Network was playing Ohio State games, they would have night games, but it'd be against Indiana back in the old days when it was Indiana was Indiana. So like, I understand, like if I were an Ohio State fan or a Michigan fan, I would want to watch my team play in my stadium at night after getting hammered all day and having the full fan experience. Everybody wants to build up. That's a hundred thousand people versus seven million. Yeah. Yeah, that's and that's the thing. It sucks because you pay a lot of money to be one of those hundred thousand people. the thing, it sucks because you pay a lot of money to be one of those 100,000 people. But they're thinking of the eight or nine million who are going to watch on TV over
Starting point is 00:52:30 the 100,000 who are there. And if you're an Ohio State fan and you believe that Ohio State has a 2% chance less of beating Indiana as a result of the time start, I would be upset about that. You want to win that game. Like I get it. Like I totally understand why people are upset. But the conference agreed to this contract knowing damn well what was going to happen and it's happening. And that is another rung on the long ladder
Starting point is 00:52:57 of things that you're going to miss out on as a fan as a result of money. Like that's money wins in this sport. And that's the way it is. Aaron Pennington with also a result of money. Like that's money wins in this sport. And that's the way it is. Aaron Pennington with also a very good point. It's harder to get recruits who play on Friday nights to a Saturday evening. Absolutely. Cause you've got to get on a plane, you're probably not making it. For a program like Ohio State that is recruiting a lot of players that live five, eight, 10 states away. So I will say this as someone who has has gone woken up in Florida and gotten on a plane to make a noon kick in Ann Arbor this year.
Starting point is 00:53:32 It is stressful. Yeah, it is incredibly stressful. And I think that like what do you think the ideal window is, though, for like a recruiting atmosphere, uh, competitive advantage. Like I actually think that everyone thinks it's new or at seven PM, but I actually think three thirties the best time to kick off. Yeah. Well, if you're a recruit, yeah, you, I think, I think three 30, like the sec on CBS was a really good product and established that window as here's the biggest game and everything else is going to be kind of dessert after this, but this is your meal. And you know, I don't think
Starting point is 00:54:13 that I don't think that ESPN since they've now got all of the SEC, I don't think they've treated it that way. I think they're they're treating the 7pm kickoff, the 730pm kickoff as that game. But I honestly don't like when when LSU played Alabama in 2019. Remember, CBS couldn't make that a night game because they'd already made. Yeah, Notre Dame, Georgia night game. And the ratings for that game are through the roof. Like NFL games on Sunday afternoons in the 405 time slot, do huge numbers.
Starting point is 00:54:45 They don't do worse numbers because they're in. If they have it, that's the best game. People go find it. So I don't think it matters. Yeah, and I in terms of TV viewers, we also have to say this to Andy because this is true. And I didn't make this point, but J.C. in the chat did. Ohio State is not helped by the fact that USC, Oregon,
Starting point is 00:55:02 Washington and UCLA aren't going to be starting home games at 9 a.m. So like there's less to choose from too. So. But you know who is willing? The Colorado Buffaloes and we're going to see that this weekend. That's the big noon game this weekend. It's a 10 a.m. Utah Colorado is a 10 a.m. local kickoff in Boulder because they want, they want that showcase. And, you know, obviously Coach Prime is gonna get outsized attention, but let's say we talk about Colorado before Deion Sanders got there, they never would have been in position to get
Starting point is 00:55:39 this sort of television showcase. So of course they're gonna take it. Yeah. So, yeah, but it's interesting because like people like talk down to Big Noon. But I think that they've done a pretty good job of disrupting the market in terms of like who's watching the pregame shows. And I don't know what the ratings are. But college game day used to be the only thing on
Starting point is 00:55:58 televisions that you would ever see before games started. And like now if you're in public, you'll see a lot of Big Noon at a lot of places because people put on the channel that the big game is going to be on. So it doesn't only help the ratings of the game. It helps the ratings of the shows and the programming beforehand in order to get the secret about big noon ratings. So big noon actually goes for about eight minutes past noon, the pregame show, and that gets counted in the ratings for the pregame show and it makes their ratings significantly higher because ESPN dumps out to whatever noon game is on ESPN at like 1203. So that extra five minutes actually makes a big difference. Yeah. So, you know, I do feel for Ohio State fans, and I think that you, as a fan, have, are the ones spending your money. You're the ones consuming the entertainment product, and you deserve to have your voices heard. The
Starting point is 00:56:56 problem is, is that your program signed up for this. So, like, that's the way it is. And it's, that's the way it's going to be. And, you know, you can hope that maybe Michigan gets back. Hate to say it. Or hate that Indiana gets really good every year, or there's another Midwest team or East Coast team that makes it an attractive pick. But this is all just a selection to make the most possible money. And Ohio State's going to be the cow that kind of helps them bring that milk home. I don't know why I just said that. That was weird. kind of helps them bring that milk home. I don't know why I just said that. That was weird. Okay. I liked it. Well, hey, we do have a counterpoint for Joel Klatt. Okay. From another former college quarterback, Danny Cannell. New game suck for players in the game and for fans attending.
Starting point is 00:57:40 But funny, Danny's like, but selfishly I'm, I like having a good game to start today. We all do. Who doesn't? Yeah. Yeah. If you're not actually going, if you're just sitting But funny, Danny's like, but selfishly I'm I like having a good game to start today. We all do. Who doesn't? Yeah. If you're not actually going, if you're just sitting, if you're on your couch. Starting with a banger at noon makes that entire day better. Like it's going to a game is a pain in the ass. Like when you think about like the traffic getting into it, you know, finding a parking spot, parking, walking to the stadium, the weather's cold.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Like it's not an easy thing to do before noon. Um, and of course you want to get hammered. Like I get it. Like you want to enjoy the morning and you know, maybe not everybody, but there's a large portion of the fan base that wants to set up there. I mean, Ohio state's tailgate scene, I don't think is like as intense or crazy as you will find. It's like, yeah, I mean, it's in a, it's in a bigger city.
Starting point is 00:58:29 It's, it's a lot of parking garages. Like it's, it's not as conducive to tailgating as say Penn state or Georgia or tech or Tennessee or yeah. I, there was a person in the tailgate lot at Ohio state that I walked by every weekend for 10 years as I was covering the team who had an ambulance. They got an old ambulance and they painted the things scarlet and gray and television inside where you would be sitting where the EMT sat and decked this thing out. This thing had to have cost a quarter of a million dollars. Yeah, there's a Florida fan who bought a short bus and did exactly the same thing you're talking about. Yeah. That guy wants to stand outside by his, you know, his paramedic unit
Starting point is 00:59:20 and drink and have people come by, put the snacks out, watch the games, pull them. I understand why you'd want that. So anyway. Yeah. Now it's, it's frustrating. And for Ohio State people, I feel you because it is every week for you. Now it may be that thanks to Oregon, because look, Oregon, they're not, they're not going to play their home games at 9am local time, but they are going to get sent on the road to the eastern and central time zone and they're going to have to play those games at noon eastern. So the fact that Oregon is going to be nationally relevant most years Washington when Jed Fish gets him going will be nationally relevant. USC you think at some
Starting point is 01:00:02 point will be nationally like so I don't think it's just going to always be Ohio relevant. USC, you think at some point will be nationally relevant. So I don't think it's just gonna always be Ohio State. I think that's kind of the whole point of this. But right now, Ohio State is still the big dog in the league. One counter we have to say. Yes. Ohio State also gets chosen for the noon game when they're on the road.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Right. So if you're upset about the home atmosphere, when you have a big game, also know that they got to play Penn State on the road at noon too, like, and that is having covered games at Ohio at Penn State that Ohio State's played in. It's crazy at night there. So, and I don't, I'm sure it was crazy last weekend too, or two weeks ago when they played, but like, that's also a small benefit. So and I don't, I'm sure it was crazy last weekend too, or two weeks ago when they played, but like that's also a small benefit. So yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:49 All right. This is a fun debate. We're not going to change anything because there's a lot of money in this. So it is what it is, but I'm, I'm glad we've given people a platform to get, get this off their chest because I think they should get this off their chests. I still kind of like the good noon game. I don't want to go back to the, we're here in Evanston with three other people and this
Starting point is 01:01:15 guy's reading a book. I'm good with what they do now. So Ari, speaking of television and things that are made for television, they're releasing the college football playoff rankings tonight. You and I will be live when they do. So folks, if you want to come watch with us, just turn ESPN down, turn us up, let us be your second screen, and let's hang together and discover the college football
Starting point is 01:01:45 playoff rankings. The second week of them. This is the one where they sandwich it between the two basketball games. So we'll be waiting to watch a Cooper flag, the main event and Duke against Kentucky and their new coach, Mark Pope. But 830 p.m. Eastern time, we think because again, it depends on probably nine. Let's be honest. The game is going to cause again, it depends on probably nine.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Let's be honest. The game's going to run long. Cause it depends on how that first game, that first game goes to overtime. We're just sitting here, but Oh, Scott Aldress, this will be screen one. Thank you, Scott. We appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:02:18 We'll take screen two, two, but screen ones even better. Hey guys, tweet at me with the play is of the basketball game for the first half. Let's all play it together. the play is of the basketball game for the first half. Let's all play it together. So as we wait, we're sweating the first half total or something. There you go. That's how I usually do it because like,
Starting point is 01:02:31 we know we're gonna have to wait. We know it's gonna go longer than it's supposed to. And if you're on the action of the basketball game, like a real savage, if somebody wants to do that with me, send me the play, I'll tell you, we'll watch it together and we'll wait together while that game's going on. So homework assignment for you guys. Once we know the rating once we know the rankings and we'll talk about
Starting point is 01:02:55 this on the show tonight, too. But once we know the rankings tomorrow show instead of Wendy's saucy take Wednesday, it's going to be Wendy's saucy disaster scenario Wednesday. So we're coming up with the ultimate disaster scenarios for teams in the college football playoff and conferences in the college football playoff. So Ari and I will try to come up with our best, craziest, wildest disaster scenarios.
Starting point is 01:03:23 We want you guys to help. So bring him to the show tonight as the rankings get revealed or you can wait until the rankings get revealed and then hit us with them. But we're ready for those. So tomorrow will be Wendy's sauciest disaster scenarios. Because we've already got some pretty good ideas. We need to see the rankings tonight. So we'll see you tonight when the college football playoff rankings get revealed right
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