Andy & Ari On3 - Will Tennessee QB Nico Iamaleava play against Georgia? | How does the Big Ten TV contract work?

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:34 Well, Blake Corum in his Michigan uniform and Dejohn Edwards. Well, hey, we'll be talking about George's running game today too. So the Steelers have Dejohn Edwards. The Bulldogs probably wish they had him right now. Xavier worthy card is numbered and might be worth a few bucks. So I might want to know that. It is a base card. Oh, it is. I got a Michael Vick autograph. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:01:54 So let's go. I feel like you were just hitting some autos in there that I like veteran autos that people are really going to want. So that Herbert auto you hit and now you're getting like, like you're just, you're playing the hits over there. I love it. We still have to hit a big NIL signature in there. And you know, when we do the only current college player we've got so far as Ronda Gatz in the second, I want to hit one of these big guys who actually, again, like I said, we're going to talk about some of these guys on the show, on the show, which starts now. Welcome to Andy and Ari on three. Happy first day of the year, Andy. Here, Ari day, we have your
Starting point is 00:02:35 questions, but we also have some news to cover. Ari, let's get right into it because this is one of those, since the SEC started doing these availability reports the Wednesday night weight has become a tradition a new tradition in college football I feel like I was pressing refresh a lot about eight o'clock Eastern on Wednesday night because I wanted to see because Josh Hypple said watch the availability reports They will guide you as to what will happen with Nico Iamaliava for the Georgia game. So it comes out, he is questionable. They took a big hit against Mississippi state on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:03:16 He did not come back for the second half. The thought was, did he, did he have, you know, a concussion? Was he in concussion protocol? Did he have, you know, a concussion was in concussion protocol. So Ari, how do we feel about the likelihood of Nico playing Nico's effectiveness if he does play? I think that it's funny that the injury report will guide us and then we get a vague questionable on there, which provides zero information. That's literally just he might play or he might not, which is where we were yesterday morning.
Starting point is 00:03:49 But, you know, I think that whenever you start talking about the types of hits that he took in the area of the body that we're talking about, right, with the head, you're never quite 100% sure because, you know, they're supposed to be and are more careful with those injuries. So my hope is for everybody involved that he gets to play. I want to watch Georgia and Tennessee play at full speed. And you know I guess it's just we're going to probably find out in a report at some point. You know on Friday for Saturday morning of this is what's happening. Like I don't know that the injury report guided us to anything but more vagueness. Well, Josh Hyple did talk on his coaches show on Wednesday night about Nico. He said Nico was out there at practice with him. Like he's being very forthright compared to a lot of coaches who are very vague in situations like this. Like, I think if Nico were not playing, you'd see a much cagey or Josh Hyple. I think in this case that they they're planning on him playing. I mean, they certainly act like they're planning on him playing. Yeah, and they're going to need them. I think I don't think you want to go into this game with a backup quarterback.
Starting point is 00:05:00 And you know, even though if we think the final score is going to be 17 to 14, like it's just you want to be at your best, especially considering the fact that Tennessee season is not a hundred percent on the line, but in terms of path and, and, you know, playoff. It's a hell of odd easier if they win this game. If they win this game, their, their trajectory of the season is a heck of a lot different. So, um, you know, this is a tough road game.
Starting point is 00:05:24 You know, you're playing against a defense that can get after you when they're playing really well. We've seen them take teams that we thought have really good offenses and make them look silly for four quarters. Like, Tennessee's offense already is a question mark for this team. So, you know, as we have these debates on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, Andy, about who should be in, who should be seated, where they should be seated, and all that stuff. Like, it is just so much better to do that when we have full information of full speed teams. But of course, you know, want Nico in his head and, you know, his future to be okay as well. So, you know, we'll track it. We'll be talking about it on the show. And again, the hope is that he plays.
Starting point is 00:06:06 And again, the hope is that he plays and producer river. Can you show that availability report one more time for this game? Because I think there's another name on here that we should be paying attention to do and that's Trevor Etienne is also listed as questionable for Georgia now Trevor Etienne played against Ole Miss last week He played against Florida and got banged up against Florida is where it seemed like that happened Or further banged up, but he's Ole Miss. I don about you, Ari, it felt like he was on a pitch count. It felt like they were saying, we only have so many touches we can use him for, and so we're trying to parcel these out. He ended up carrying six times for 24 yards, not exactly what they want. Also, producer were pointing out Dante Thornton, the receiver for Tennessee,
Starting point is 00:06:46 questionable, one of their deep threats. So this is, and this is that time of the season where it's almost like the healthier team wins. And it seems like one of those situations. And there's one name that's visibly not on that report. Didn't Dylan Sampson get banged up on Saturday? And he's not, he did. He's's not on the report They expect him to play They're feeling good about him and he's I think maybe the second most important piece if not the most important piece of their offense Right now with the way that they move the ball So that's one at least positive for the Tennessee people who are wound up about this Well in the the stat that the Tennessee people throwing out, which I find utterly fascinating,
Starting point is 00:07:25 is Dillon Sampson has 12 more rushing yards than Georgia's entire team this year. And so we're going to talk about it in our Georgia Tennessee prize picks preview in a second. But I think Dillon Sampson is as important to what Tennessee does offensively as Niko, which I know if you look at the numbers, that sounds pretty elementary, but you usually assume the quarterback is so much more important.
Starting point is 00:07:51 If the running game's working, it will help the passing game. You know, the question is, does Georgia shut down their running game? It's hard to run on Georgia. So we'll find out about that, but sticking with the injury reports or the availability reports.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Sorry, SEC, I used the wrong word there. Missouri, South Carolina, that one came out. Brady Cook, doubtful for Missouri. So looks like we're going to see another Drew Pine game. Does that change anything for you? I think the line, which was South Carolina by 13 and a half, I think the line assumed Drew Pine would be the starting quarterback in this game So I don't know that that changes much for me Ari No, I think that that was the assumption because they're laying two touchdowns, right?
Starting point is 00:08:33 So, you know that is I don't know that that would be the spread if cook were playing So I don't know if we're gonna get any last-second potential surprises there But no, I think that Missouri's in big trouble this week, regardless of who's playing a quarterback, if I'm being honest with you. Well, who would want it like at this point, who would want to play quarterback against South Carolina? Like that feels like the most dangerous place to be in America. It's like standing on railroad tracks or playing quarterback against South Carolina. Yeah, it's not. it's not great, Bob. No, it's terrifying. It's like, you know, can art and Stuart coming off the edge are just so nasty.
Starting point is 00:09:16 So, and then context, Andy, the line hasn't moved at all since the availability reports said that. So speaking of that, speaking of lines that kind of predicted what the availability report might say, what the ultimate decision will be on Saturday, let's bring up the Florida LSU availability report. So Florida List DJ Lagway is questionable. That line as of last night had not moved. It was still LSU by four and a half. LSU by four and a half to me, Ari says that Vegas thinks DJ Laguay is playing. Right. Yeah. I don't know what the spread or the line would be if DJ was
Starting point is 00:10:00 probable. Like what do we think? Like maybe Florida even or plus one. I think there'll be a maybe Florida even or plus one I think there'll be a three-point difference probably unless you'd still be favored because like Florida's still not a great team like yeah but they're better with DJ lagway I think if DJ lagway was listed as doubtful or if he was listed as out it was definitively out you see that line jumped like ten the thing that just bugs me about this game is that the pathway to. Beating LSU has been shown repeatedly this year.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And even if lag way plays, I don't know that he's going to be healthy enough to be deployed in that way by, by running a ton and getting hit a ton. Like I think they're going to try to protect them. And you know, the, the injury that he has is, uh, one that is very easy to aggravate by running full speed too. Right. It's a hamstring. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:47 You know, the hamstring situation, you don't want to put him out there and potentially risk his health moving forward. So the thing with this game is, is that I actually think that Florida has a real chance to win Andy. know if him if DJ lagway playing at four at 70% is going to be the output that you need from him playing. You know what I mean? Like I just it. This is not just a will he play or will he not play? The second part of the coin is if he does play how effective can he be in their game plan to beat LSU? Well, also a question on that one is Montreal Johnson, who it feels like they're trying to get him back, too. If, let's say you have DJ Lague playing, and you have Montreal Johnson and Jaden Ball playing, obviously, I do think you can do some stuff with the read option where you tell DJ,
Starting point is 00:11:42 unless it's 10 free yards and you can slide, don't pull the ball, but you create that conflict with the defense and you have two good running backs that you can hand off to. I think that gives Florida a shot right there. Even if DJ is not a hundred percent, that threat gives Florida a shot, but we'll find out. It is going to be a shot, but we'll find out. I mean, it is going to be pretty dependent on how healthy he is. I think whether Florida has a chance in this game. And also like we've said all week, what LSU team shows up based on what happened
Starting point is 00:12:15 last week, because you know, the playoff, probably not a possibility for them. The sec championship game still is, they're still in line for the, one of those weird eight way tie scenarios. So they do need to keep winning in the SEC, and there's something potentially out there in front of them if they keep doing that. So, Ari, we'll see what happens, but that's going to be interesting. Let's... Hey, when it comes to Florida, Andy, I wanted to ask you this because I've been thinking about it, because obviously they've been playing much better than they started the year, right? And they're a tougher out, not so much last week, but that's not really their fault. I know DJ Lagway gets a ton of credit and deservedly so he's been awesome. And you know, he's going to be a star one way or the other, but how much do you think Florida's ability to stay in the game with Georgia, to stay in
Starting point is 00:13:02 games with teams we don't think that they can be with. The surprises that we've gotten from them are based on the emergence of their running backs because like their running backs have been awesome. Well, that, okay, Jaden Baugh has been very good because Montrell has been hurt. Yeah. But I think the other group that deserves credit for that is the offensive line, which was much maligned.
Starting point is 00:13:21 And they've gotten considerably better as the season's gone on. Jake Slaughter, the center, especially has been really good. And I think that group, like you saw them in the Georgia game, they were pushing Georgia. They were, they were creating holes and gaining yards just straight up with Georgia knowing. I remember lagways out at that point, like Georgia knows all they can do is try to run the ball and they're still effectively running the ball toward the end of the game. So that's the offensive line.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yeah, that's yeah, I'm with you. OK, I'll let you transition now. I will do it. Let's show Raymond's comment in the chat since he was nice enough to to throw a couple of bucks our way. Raymond says, just want to say thank you for a national show. Notre Dame's fans can actually watch. Yes, I hope we treat Notre Dame rationally and reasonably.
Starting point is 00:14:12 We don't just say, oh, they lost to Northern Illinois, they're out. Do I get that $5 just delivered to my mailbox? Because I am the purveyor of Notre Dame. It is you. Yeah. So yes, we'll put an extra $5 in your check this week, Ari. Don't you worry about that.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Now, we're happy to be here. And the hope here, Raymond and Andy, I think you can echo this too, is that we want every fan base to feel welcome here. You know what I mean? We don't have any. I know you get called the SEC Homer. I'm the Ohio State Homer. People think that you hate their teams when you're critical of them, but we want this to be
Starting point is 00:14:47 a safe haven for everybody because the reason why Andy and I do what we do for a living is because we love the, uh, we love the sport, you know, it's not an allegiance to a specific team. We love the idiosyncrasies of, you know, how dysfunctional it can be and how entertaining the games are and how much it brings people together. So, um, thank you for that comment. It means a lot and hopefully everybody who regardless of who you root for feels the same way. Well, and here's the thing. We're going to say critical things about your team. I'm warning you right now. Like there are going to be days when
Starting point is 00:15:16 you're mad at us. But we're going to tell you the truth. Like Oklahoma fans didn't want to hear. That they weren't prepared on the offensive line to go into the SEC this year. They didn't want to hear that at the beginning of the season, but they know now it was true. And it's not like we've been excessively critical of Oklahoma. We'll talk about the extension given to Brent Venom. I think there's some criticism deserved there last year, but I need to work on my delivery at times because I can be like harsh, not just be honest,
Starting point is 00:15:48 but I can be harsh. But here's the thing Ari, and this is, part of it is us. So we come from the world of writing where that's kind of expected. They want you to be honest. They want you, you just try to give the truth. We moved into this world of YouTube
Starting point is 00:16:07 where I get the feeling people think that, or at least just watching the videos people make, they think everybody who just wants sunshine blowing up their butts all day. Yeah. And I'm sorry if all we did was blow sunshine and give you the silver lining in the best case scenario. It'd be fake. It would suck.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Yeah. Andy. I think as we're seeing that as more people come to this show. And they realize, oh, those other people just tell us what we want to hear. But it feels pretty hollow when our team sucks. And they lied to us about our team being good. We're gonna tell you, unfortunately, we're gonna tell you if we think your team sucks
Starting point is 00:16:50 and I'm sorry in advance. And also tell you and celebrate when your team is great. Colorado fans can attest to that. We were completely wrong about Colorado and we've come around. Steven says, here's some for the channel that Penn State fans can barely watch. That's the underdog of the year because I have been critical of Penn State's ranking the last few weeks, but that doesn't mean I think they stink. So, and also Miami caught a
Starting point is 00:17:17 stray from me yesterday, Andy. I don't know if you saw the column I wrote, but that one I wrote, it's not just you, Penn State. It's just, it's more directed at the committee. But anyway, thank you for being here. Really appreciate you, everybody. It's just been awesome to be here. And this has been the best, most fun year of podcasting I've done even since when we were together before.
Starting point is 00:17:38 So I'm excited. And you've only been here two months. Imagine how amazing it's gonna be. Imagine what kind of graphics we get into the off season. Does it feel like it's only been two months? I feel like either this is the fastest season in the history of college football, or I've been here for six months, eight months, a year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:52 I can't believe the season's almost over, but it's been fun and super excited to head into the most dramatic and new part of the year. Yeah. Matt, interesting. I think half of Georgia fans right now don't want sunshine. We're black pill. Kirby's made a lot of mistakes in the coaches. He's hired to replace great coaches who left Matt. I agree with this. There's a there's a big split in the Georgia fans. And I think I think each particular Georgia fan has different
Starting point is 00:18:18 moments of the day where they where they're like, Oh, something's really off here. And then it's like, wait, how can you pick Tennessee to beat us? Don't you know we've always beat Tennessee? Didn't you say Tennessee was gonna beat us two years ago? It's okay. Tell me when you're flying Todd Monkin into Call of the Place and we'll talk about it.
Starting point is 00:18:36 You know what's interesting, Andy, is threading the needle because there are times where you can be critical of a team and they will revolt against you for doing it. And there are times where if you're positive, they will revolt against you for that. And there will also be times where if you are negative against them, they're with you. And trying to time that properly often is based on like message board temperament and how their fans are. But it is interesting. It's like, it's not always about being positive and negative about a team. I think it's also about when to be, right? Like you have to have a good pulse of, OK, this is,
Starting point is 00:19:12 this is warranted. But also, I think the people who root for this team want to need to hear this at this moment. Like sometimes there's, there's been columnists in the past who will just drop a really negative column out of nowhere for no apparent reason. Like people don't like that. But if they are, Just to be disagreeable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if they if fans are upset, like I've written some pretty stern columns coming to on three since I've gotten here. And I think I've done a pretty good job for the most part of kind of hitting the tornado with like
Starting point is 00:19:44 putting the column in the tornado that already exists. I don't know that people want the column is to create the tornado if it if it's if it's clear skies. Correct. Yeah, I think you're right about that. Alright, let us discuss Tennessee Georgia a little further. This is your Tennessee Georgia preview presented by PrizePix. If you're not not playing prize picks already, what are you doing? Download that app. Use the code staples. You play five dollars, you get fifty dollars instantly. You're picking squares. You've got a player attached to a stat category. And obviously we talk about college football here, but they've got NBA. They've got NBA.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Did I just I said NBA? I said NFL. They've got darts sometimes, they've got eSports almost all the time. Whatever people are playing, you can find some squares on prize picks. But the Tennessee Georgia game is the one we want to talk about. Let's look at Nico Iamaljava, who is, as we said, questionable on the availability report. So 180 and a half passing yards, do you think he'll throw for more of that or less than that?
Starting point is 00:20:46 And my initial thought already is this is a very low number. Yeah, I look at what Nico's done this season. I'm like, no, this is actually pretty much right on the screws. Yeah. Also, too, this is a very challenging square because, A, there is some uncertainty about whether he's going to play right. So you're taking that inherent risk. But then also to when you're talking about a head injury of all the injuries that could pop up during the game again with one bad player,
Starting point is 00:21:15 one weird hit to remove them from the game. You know, that's the one right? Like if you're if you had a head injury or a big hit the week before and then you take another pop to the head, you know, nine times out of ten, you're probably going to come out of the game. So like I personally would advise people to maybe not play that square because there's nothing better. There are nothing worse than having the right idea and losing on a technicality. So yeah, the maybe I guess if they're going to offer it just go less than because you know They're probably not gonna put them in a harm's way a bunch But at the same time too, it's like you also don't want to be like, oh, it'd be great if you came out of the game Like it's just not a fun square to play this week well, let's look at Dylan Sampson because
Starting point is 00:21:56 like we said before he's kind of been the engine that drives Tennessee's offense and He's one of those that I feel like has performed relatively consistently. I'm not as worried so much about Dylan Sampson himself. I'm worried about can Dylan Sampson's performance stay similar against a defense that is probably better than what they've seen against the run. So if we look at Dylan Sampson, his, his rushing yardage numbers, 89 and a half yards. And he has gone more than 89 and a half yards each of the past five games. In fact, the lowest yardage output each of the past five games for Dylan Sampson is Florida with 112.
Starting point is 00:22:35 He's been 139 140 140 249. He has been really consistent, but he's now playing against a defense that is very good against the run. Now, Georgia's probably not as good as they have been against the run. They're still really good though. They are number 18 in the country in terms of yards per carry allowed. It's only 3.35. They just got through playing Ole Miss, which is number one in the country. So Tennessee is number five, by the way, and we're gonna talk about Treboratian in a second. But can Dylan Sampson stay consistent against a defense
Starting point is 00:23:13 that is much better at stopping the run than the one CC? Yeah, well, I actually think that this is a pretty interesting spot because the thought process, I think even if Nico were 100% healthy, would be that they would lean on the running again. I think that of all the things that we know definitively that Tennessee does well offensively, what their identity has been this year, it is Dylan Sampson running and scoring a lot. Like he has scored a ton. So to me, with the uncertainty of Nico, I feel like they're going to have to pound him even if it, like they're going to have to stick with it. Even if it's not working early or Georgia, you know, plucks some holes, gets some big stops.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Like, I don't think that it's something that Tennessee can ever afford to get away from. Like, I think that that's going to be part of their game plan the entire game. And if you've watched Tennessee play, like, Dylan Sampson is going to get his, like, I don't care how good Georgia's, Georgia's, um, defensive line is like if, if Ashton Genti didn't exist, Dylan Sampson might be one of the biggest stars in the sport this year. So like, I cannot understate how good he is and getting a number, uh, less than a hundred seems like a pretty awesome situation, especially
Starting point is 00:24:23 considering the fact that Tennessee knows that it's, he might have to rely on him even more than they have in the past with the quarterback situation. Yeah, and really with this number 89 and a half, if he breaks one long one, you're probably going to get it. So let's move to the other side of the field. Let's look at Trevor Etienne, who is also questionable for this game. And his number is 51 and a half. And he's not been able to hit that the last few weeks now remember they've been a they've been playing some really good run defenses, specifically Ole Miss, which gives up 2.2 yards carry, but Tennessee is number five in the country. In yards per carry run defense 2.8 they do not give up much on the ground. We don't know if Trevor Etienne is healthy. It, like I said, it feels like he's been on a pitch count. I, this feels like a less than for me Ari. Yeah, I'm with you, especially because Nate Frazier has been airing the ball a ton. I, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I think that Frazier led the Georgia in carries last week, didn't he? He did. He did. Etienne only had six carries last week. Yeah. Also too. I cannot believe people think that Tennessee is not going to win. Maybe they're not, but Tennessee, there's so much to like about that. There's a path for Georgia to win. It's just a low scoring game. I'd care for Georgia to beat the Bengals. I'm just saying, I think that there's a path for Georgia to win. It's just, it's a low scoring game. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:45 I'd care for Georgia to beat the Bengals. I'm saying, I'm just saying, like, I think that there's a realistic, like, I think it's just the way we're viewing the game. I don't know if it's just me and you. It seems like the entire country is just kind of falling back on the notion that Georgia could not lose two in a row. And I think it is possible when you're playing two teams
Starting point is 00:26:05 that have the defenses that they have, especially up front, like this is a very challenging spot. So I like less than because Tennessee's defense is awesome. I don't know how they make this up. I guess like you could just go all in on phrase. And that brings us to our pal Carson Beck, which he'd be the one who has to do it. And I'm just not sure he's going to do it, but that watching him against Ole Miss. And again, Tennessee's defense and Ole Miss are pretty similar. Ole Miss is probably a little better, but their numbers are pretty similar. Ole Miss leads the nation and tackles for loss per game at 10.3.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Tennessee is number eight at 7.9. Like, they're really good at stopping the run, they're really good at pressuring the quarterback, they're really good at tackling people in the backfield. Carson Beck's number in this game is 261 and a half. He did not go more than that against Ole Miss. He did against Florida, but only because they were in a tight game and he had to throw their way out of three interceptions
Starting point is 00:27:16 that he'd already thrown. He threw three picks against Texas. He took care of the ball better in the air against Ole Miss, but he did fumbled a little bit as well. So I Just they're gonna have to get a game from Carson Beck that's gonna look that has to look like a game We haven't seen except maybe the Alabama game Yeah, and and maybe being at home Andy is gonna be a hit a huge difference for him because playing on the road against that pass rush in an environment like that Is a really tough situation. But like, is the best pass rusher in the entire sport on Tennessee's defensive line?
Starting point is 00:27:52 Entirely possible. It's James Pierce. Yeah, it's possible. I have a feeling that he would be the number one pick. Yeah, and he probably will be the first one off the board in the draft next year. I don't know if he'll be number one in the draft, but the first pass rusher first edge rusher off the board. So that is a look. This is going to be a fun game because I do think people are making a lot of assumptions about Georgia. Well, it's Georgia, but I got to tell you, somebody I trust sent me a text yesterday that goes, this is going to be a Kirby game. Yeah. And you know what that means. And how it's where Georgia's defense just absolutely dominates causes Tennessee to make mistakes, sets up points for Georgia. It's the Texas game, essentially the door text game.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Yeah. That's a Kirby game. Yeah. That's and I was like, you know what? I can see that. I don't think that there's ever. Here's the thing. If Georgia actually isn't what they've been, or they come back down to earth to
Starting point is 00:28:53 being like everybody else, then you'll know that you'll know that because then you'll be like, I can't see the Kirby game. Like you can, I see the Kirby game every week. Like I don't care who George is playing. Like the Kirby game is always right here in the back of my mind. Yeah. You know, I'm more easily able to doubt that the Kirby game shows up because I think that the issues
Starting point is 00:29:15 that Georgia is illustrating are personnel related and not mindset related. Yeah. And I think that Tennessee has an opportunity to take advantage of some of the personnel situations that Georgia has at play here, which is, you know, lack of explosive offensive playmakers. The running game isn't the type of game that or situation that can just run people down or run the ball down your throat. Carson Beck has been throwing turnovers. Like, I don't know, like, like real tangible issues offensively is not something that I wash away with, oh, it's gonna be a Kirby game.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Now, if it's a Kirby game because the defense just like Tennessee has 11 yards in the third quarter and it looks a lot like the Texas game did, then that's the defense. But like, I think that Tennessee's defense is going to be good enough to keep them in this game, even if that Georgia defense shows up and makes things really difficult on Nico and Samson.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Yeah, I, that's the part, cause Ole Miss was moving the ball on George's defense. They weren't hitting deep shots. They were, they were hitting underneath and, and moving the ball. Ole Miss was running wild and free, like a teenager on spring break. Like I, like I've never seen anything like that in the second day, I was a teenager on Rumspringa. Yeah, that's what I meant. Yeah, that's I actually watched that show by the way. And I really enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I don't remember what it was called, but like I was like fascinated. I am fascinated by that stuff. Yeah, like sitting up in the press box, there were at least six plays in that game where Ole Miss threw to a receiver that had 10 yards of room around him in every direction. And I don't know if that was coverages or if it was just really well designed pre-snap motions. Like there's all these things.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Well, Kirby's philosophy when playing this kind of offense, and remember Ole Miss and Tennessee's offenses are based on the old Baylor or Braille's offense. Kirby's philosophy has always been keep everything in front of you. Like don't get beat deep. and Tennessee's offenses are based on the old Baylor or Braille's offense. Kirby's philosophy has always been keep everything in front of you. Like don't get beat deep. And it's worked really well. Because what you do is you just tackle that, usually you're just tackling the guy
Starting point is 00:31:16 when he catches the ball, and he's catching the ball six yards down the field. So on first down, they throw for six yards, you tackle him, they try to run on second down, you stuff him for a gain of one. So you get third and three, they throw the same pass, maybe the guy drops it, maybe the quarterback's off, maybe the DB makes a play, and all of a sudden you force a three and out. Like that's how Georgia would beat this offense in the past. But you saw them have to give some cushion because Ole Miss receivers are so good.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I don't know if Tennessee's receivers are as good as Ole Miss, but we'll find out. I also don't think that this game is anything like the game two years ago where Georgia just swallowed them all. No, I don't think that Georgia is that much better than that. Yeah. So I think that there's this thought of like, well, Tennessee was really good two years ago and they went and played Georgia. And then they played in a two possession game that felt like insurmountable since the beginning of the first quarter. Like there was Tennessee just got mauled. Like I don't think that's on the table here.
Starting point is 00:32:13 So that's what you're thinking. A Kirby game is like, I am not on board with that. All right. Ari, that is your Tennessee Georgia preview presented by prize picks. Download that app. Use that code staples play $5, get $50 instantly. Before we get to your questions, I got one of mine answered, because I've asked the question over and over again, why did Brent Venables get a contract extension last off season
Starting point is 00:32:41 when no one was actually coming after him? And in a Board of regents meeting on Wednesday, Jocasta Leone, the athletic director, answered that question. Now, Joe Haroz, who's the president in Oklahoma and Jocasta Leone both gave Brent Venables a vote of confidence in that meeting, which is public and everybody can watch it. But I was more interested public and everybody could watch it. But I was more interested in Jocas Tiglione explaining to the board why he extended Brent Venables when no one was trying to hire Brent Venables. And so here's what he said, as I said at the time, the university understood the transition that we were making and the importance of creating stability throughout our program.
Starting point is 00:33:20 As you know, this is a very unique time in college athletics and there are disruptions and chaos around building and sustaining rosters. And the stability and strength was an important characteristic that we wanted to embrace across many different areas besides his contract, but fortifying all the people involved so that we could be successful. The original contract was counting down. So we just wanted to be able to address the growth of the program going forward. We had a very positive 10-win season a year ago and believe that the stability would be important for him and the staff and how we recruit and we retain players in this new and unique environment. All right. I Ari. We got to call our boss, Shannon Terry. Like I got to I got to try to use this on him. Like Shannon, my contract is counting down.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Like Shannon, my contract is counting down. We need more stability by you giving me a giant raise in more guaranteed money. Like that's the only way we can have stability. Not you just keep paying me till this contract ends and I keep working until this contract ends but I need more money and more years or it might become unstable. JG Wentworth 8 eight seconds with the cash, no. You know, sometimes in my house, I'll just be like cleaning the dishes and my wife and daughter will be in the other room
Starting point is 00:34:34 and I'll just scream into the other room, it's my money and I want it now. But sorry. I love Joke Isiglione, he's one of my favorite people in the business. But I'm sorry, this is a bad reason. Like you put the university on the hook for 12 million more dollars for no reason. Brent Vettel has had four years left on his contract. We're in the NIL transfer portal area. No recruit cares if the coach has five years on his deal. We're in the NIL transfer portal area. No recruit cares if the coach
Starting point is 00:35:05 has five years on his deal. None. I'm going to be a contrarian. Go ahead. Where were all the columns about how it was a bad bullshit move when he did it? There weren't. And I think the reason why is we have a, and like, I just, I agree with what you're saying. Like with the information that we have right now, it turned out terribly. But like, I like Brent. I'm sure you do too. He's like a great dude. Yeah. And I think that like, I would want my son to play for him.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Like, I think that he is like a really good dude and they had a 10 win season. And I think that the, the view here, um, with his past and what he's done was that he was going to be Oklahoma's coach for the longterm. Now I understand the argument that they were not, they were bidding against themselves. He was already being paid fairly and had four years left on his deal. Ari, do you know how you don't fire Brent Venables after the 2024 season? Do you know how you do that? How I, how you don't't how you don't fire him? Yeah, do you know how you achieve that goal of not firing him after the 2024 season? Not firing him?
Starting point is 00:36:14 Yeah, you don't fire him. Yeah, I was gonna say. Whether he's got six years left on his deal or four years left on his deal doesn't matter. You just don't fire him. Like if Jocustic Leone didn't want to fire Brent Venables after the 2024 season, he didn't have to put the university on the hook for 12 million more dollars. He just had to not fire him. Yeah, you know, you're right.
Starting point is 00:36:34 I'm playing devil's advocate here. But if they were, I know, I understand if they were playing, if they were 10 win team right now, though, or nine win team and in that graphic of that cluster of teams that were in this, I don't think we would be talking about it. That's my only point. Like I think that when people make moves, if they're bad moves, the bad move should be apparent immediately. It shouldn't just be, oh, that was terrible.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Afterward. Any extension, any giving of more money when the person is being paid a lot and has a lot of years. Like if he had one year left on his deal, obviously, yeah, go ahead and make another deal. But when you have four years left on your deal, you're being paid market rate. You've done okay, but you haven't actually met the standard of the job you have yet. Like you don't need more. You just don't.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Like again, I would love to work in a business where people just throw money at you because they imagine something might happen or they want to create the image of stability. That would be amazing. But alas, we don't we don't live in that world. Yeah, Tyler O'Neill, you only extend a guy when people are coming for him or he's down to one year. Logical. I think Brent Venables has made some mistakes this year that make me question him. I think Brent Venables will be Oklahoma's coach in five years.
Starting point is 00:38:01 I can see that because a lot of the issues that we've talked about like the offensive line stuff They have already started working to correct and probably started working to correct those two years ago. So I do think He's gonna be okay if they get that part figured out but again like If they hadn't given him extension his buyout would still be astronomical. They wouldn't be firing him this year Andy so that's ever happened I'm really struggling here. You're back at this Lake and Riley should hire a pinnacle as a coordinator
Starting point is 00:38:43 Well, imagine if that had happened when Riley got the Oklahoma job. I think you would, when Riley took the USC job, if he were to hire Venables then, you would owe me $1,000. Of course I would. Yeah. There's no question.
Starting point is 00:39:00 But you want to tell the people for me, now that we're all friends here, how we're gonna make good on that? Yeah. So like I said, I'm just happy that I won. I don't really care about the money. So basically me and Ari and Producer River are going out to dinner in Nashville at some point in the next month or so.
Starting point is 00:39:22 And I'm going to run up the tab to a thousand bucks. We're getting the Seafood Tower. If they have Pappy, I'm getting Pappy. Like, Ari's putting down that credit card for a thousand bucks. And I'm going to try to expense it and we're gonna see how it goes. Ari, I very much enjoy you as a co-host.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Please don't. I'm gonna recommend you don't co-host. Please don't come. I'm gonna recommend you don't do that. Our old company might've fallen for that, but I don't think the new guys will. Yeah, yeah, the athletic might've been like, yeah, I'll tell the, you know, hey guys, it was for the show, okay? It was for the show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:58 It was for Esprit du corps. But like, it'll be fun, because even though I'm paying for it, like, I don't know that, that like what is the most expensive dinner tab that you have ever racked up with like two or three people? Like, do you even know the answer to that? Uh, we had one more tab with three people. We had one that was like 700 bucks, but that was four people in Vegas a few years ago. I don't think I've ever gone over $500 with two people. So with River and River weighs what? Like 100 pounds? So like, I don't know how've ever gone over $500 with two people. So with River and River weighs what like 100 pounds. So like, I don't know how he's not gonna eat much. He's not eating much.
Starting point is 00:40:31 It would be it's going to be liberating and a fun experience to order. They've got plenty of sides, you know what I mean? Like just get just bring us everything because you know, it doesn't feel like that's a waste. If there's like a wagyu tomahawk, I'm getting that. No, I'm sure there will be but what's that going to be at most 250? Well, with my papi and my seafood tower, again, protein baby. I'm not I'm not here to fill up on carbs. We're not going to have the sides versus meat discussion right now. But I'm saying you definitely are going to hit one more piece of news though. Our guy Pete Nacos. If you're not going to have the sides versus meat discussion right now, but I'm saying if I'm saying- We definitely are. Oh, we do need to hit one more piece of news though. Our guy Pete Nakos, if you don't have your nococifications on, on your social media feeds, if you don't have Pete Nakos notifications. Oh, Ari wasn't here for nococifications.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Yes. That's a term we use. So Pete broke the story on Wednesday that Thomas Castellanos is entering the transfer portal. Boston College quarterback. Remember, he got benched during the Syracuse game. He's not going to start the SMU game and he decided I'm out. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I don't think this is a great move to just leave the team and say you're in any portal now. Just hang out for two more weeks. It's not that difficult. Everybody knows you're going to the portal now, just hang out for two more weeks. It's not that difficult. Everybody knows you're going to the portal, but just hang out for two more weeks. Yeah. It's like, I don't, because you know what it does seem? It makes you look like a baby and vindictive. Yeah. And I don't know that those are two things that you want to
Starting point is 00:41:59 display before being courted, you know? And I actually think he has a lot of upside as a player. And I'm surprised that we got to this point, because there were some moments at the beginning of the year where it was like, BC might have something with this kid, you know what I mean? And it's a shame that it turned out this way. But again, we talked about this a month ago, when to transfer when to enter the portal, when to opt out for dummies, like I feel like this
Starting point is 00:42:21 would be, I'm not saying he shouldn't transfer or that he shouldn't feel slighted or feel whatever he's feeling right now. But you have to go to like 12 more practices. What is gaining from this? And I guess if the if the motive here is to turn the knife on the team and be like, well, fine, forget you for doing this, then okay, fine, you accomplish that. But like, I don't know that the the the proceeds or the gain from this move would be a net positive for his future. So it was bizarre.
Starting point is 00:42:52 That was weird. All right, we got, we got great questions from the folks. So let us talk about what happens in the TV contract in the Big Ten? That was the first question out of the shoot because we've talked about these noon starts. So Jack asked us, how does the Big Ten meteorites deal actually work? It was my understanding that three networks rotate each week. Who has the first pick of games for the week?
Starting point is 00:43:20 Ohio State has their final six games this season at noon. Seems to be unlucky as Fox had first picks in the weeks that Ohio State had its biggest games. So here's how it works. There's actually a draft that they do in the spring between Fox, NBC, and CBS. Because Fox pays the most, it gets the three first picks in the draft. And what they do is are they pick weeks, they don't pick games. So the first pick is always
Starting point is 00:43:46 the final week of the regular season because it allows you to pick the Michigan Ohio State game. The second pick this year was week two. So you could get Texas, Michigan. Fox actually traded the third pick traded down like like a NFL GM. So I know this because Michael Mulvihill, who's their president of insight and analytics, did a podcast with Joel Clatt in June explaining all this. They traded that pick, which we we don't he didn't say who picked it up, but we assume it was NBC because they're the ones that got the week that had the Ohio State Oregon game. But basically Fox is dumping out of any chance that it may have to get a good game that originates from the West Coast because they don't want to mess with their time slot. They want to be at noon. large part of this too, is like gambling. And obviously, you know, you want the Ohio state Michigan game. And there are certain games that regardless of records you want, but like you also too, when doing these things, you're taking into account your time slot, but you're also hoping that the teams that you're trading for, or those
Starting point is 00:44:55 the weeks that you're picking, that the games actually turn out to be what you thought that they were going to be. You know what I mean? So like for me, I think I would have wanted the Texas. Texas A&M game if all the conferences were on the table, like I can just pick one game. I think that would be the one I would show. But like it's like be fun game to play of like in the preseason. You might have like really, really wanted Oregon, Michigan. And I was like, oh God, like what do we do? Like that game wasn't even, it's tough. Yeah. It's a tough game.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Well, and Oregon, Michigan was the same week as Penn State, Ohio State. So that helped. Yeah. It's picked up that week. And also, Mulvihill pointed this out and I hadn't thought about this, but the week of the Ohio State, Michigan game,
Starting point is 00:45:38 so that game was November 2nd, it was three days before the presidential election. There are beaucoup political ads. And they charge more for those. It's dynamic pricing on this advertising. So there was high demand. They were charging a ton for ads. They got 9.8 million viewers on that Ohio State Penn State
Starting point is 00:45:55 game. God only knows what they made in the political ads that they sold and what their affiliates made in the political ads they sold. It's called surge pricing. They did it for a reason. Yeah. Yeah. And now I do think it's interesting now that Disney has all of the sec and they've chosen to basically have great sec game at three thirty great sec game at seven thirty and fox isn't even trying to compete with that. They want no part of competing with that and what Disney's doing is they're not trying
Starting point is 00:46:30 that they're not trying to directly compete with Big Noon because they're like okay you got the biggest Big Ten game that's probably fine so we'll take if we got a decent SEC game we'll put it there but otherwise we're putting a good ACC or if it's one of those weeks where Notre Dame comes to an ACC team Stadium will put Notre Dame there. I Feel like they've sort of mapped out their strategy So this is what it's gonna be like you're not going to get out of the noon kicks and Ari We played the Gus Johnson clip from the Ohio State Purdue game. Do you know how many people watched Ohio State Purdue?
Starting point is 00:47:03 Yeah, the thing that I don't know the answer to that, but can I guess? Yeah, go ahead. I do. So guess. Five million. It wasn't that many. It's 3.4 million, but that's still a huge number for a terrible game. The point I was going to make is that like it's an awful game, but Ohio State brings those numbers every week. So five might have been an overshot because seven's a really, really good game. That's why they do it, Ari. Even the weeks they don't have first choice,
Starting point is 00:47:29 they'll pick Ohio State for that noon game because Ohio State is the most reliable ratings driver in the sport. Yeah. So, Joseph points out, Colorado's playing a big noon. Isn't that 10 a.m. local? It is. But like Oregon and Washington and USC won't do that. They won't play at 9 a.m. local. Colorado will do it. Colorado is willing to do it, which is why Utah-Colorado is the
Starting point is 00:47:56 big noon game. And by the way, I don't think we've mentioned this on the show this week. Brandon Rose, who had that good game for Utah against BYU as the starting quarterback, he's out. Isaac Wilson will be starting. He's injured. So Rose is injured, won't be back this season. If you bet Colorado on Monday, congratulations. I'm sure you probably got some good value there. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Kyle Whittingham announced that on Tuesday. So, but so yes, Utah and Colorado will be the big noon game. All right. Next question comes from Mason. I am beyond excited to share that there is still a non zero chance that the sec could come down to a coin flip and he gives us the games.
Starting point is 00:48:41 November 16th, Arkansas has to beat Texas, Florida has to beat LSU, Tennessee has to beat Georgia, South Carolina has to beat Mizzou. The Arkansas, Texas is probably the most far-fetched of those, but who knows? Now it gets really weird here. Now we're going to have some problems. 1123, Auburn beats Texas A&M, Florida beats Ole Miss, Bandy beats LSU, Mississippi State beats Missouri, which would be Mississippi State's first SEC win. Oklahoma has to beat Alabama, and Kentucky has to beat Texas.
Starting point is 00:49:14 We're not done yet. Rivalry weekend. Mississippi State wins the Egg Bowl, which would be the upset of the year. Auburn wins the Iron Bowl. Oklahoma beats LSU. This is quite the finish for Brent Venable's company. Which would be the upset of the year? Auburn wins the Iron Bowl Oklahoma beats LSU. This is quite the finish for Brent Venable's and company Arkansas over Missouri, Texas over Texas A&M
Starting point is 00:49:32 Vandy beats Tennessee these outcomes make Tennessee the sole six and two team with six schools at five and three South Carolina slots behind A&M because of opponents cumulative records. I Don't know how that's true because South Carolina played him head to head. But I guess you've got to go through the tiebreakers for all the teams. A&M slots behind Georgia because of record against shared opponents. Georgia behind they have three other schools for the same reason. Arkansas, Texas and Vanderbilt all end up tied for second place with the tie broken by Caparale of scoring margin.
Starting point is 00:50:03 If the top two or all three teams are tied, we get a random draw. Now, I think when people come up with these scenarios that they should be sports writers, because the amount of effort that it takes to go down that rabbit hole is impressive. So thank you for bringing that to us. You did. Also, as someone who had to explain relative scoring margin in a video when the SEC tiebreakers came out. I'm your co-host. I'm telling you, I do not know what that means. Okay. Basically it means is how did you perform against that team relative to that team's average against all the other teams? So like, did you beat them better than they usually get? Correct. Correct. And it's capped, basically if they average allowing 21 points
Starting point is 00:50:47 and you score 42 points, you get credit for all 42. But if you score 63 points, you get credit for 42. So it's basically capped at double. Yeah, because you then it would incentivize people to run up a score. Yeah. If they're in that position, yeah. The way that's set up,
Starting point is 00:51:03 I cannot imagine anybody would be tied. It would take just an absolute miracle for anybody to be tied in that particular stat. So I don't think you're going to get the random draw, but I like to imagine it. Where do you think they would host that? Do you think they would telepied it? I mean, no, they wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:51:24 But ideally, it would be at a Buc-ee's. Could you imagine just like because it just reminds me of Friday Night Lights. Remember? It does. Well, that's that's the joke is and the Friday Night Lights part that comes from a real thing. It happened in Texas and I believe it was Permian and Midland Lee. So Jimmy Stanton, who works, is an Associate Athletic Director at Oregon, I believe went to Lee High School in Midland, Texas, and I believe his school was the one that got the short end of the stick
Starting point is 00:51:57 and the truck stopped drawing to see who made the playoff. I just feel like my take on this should be that the tiebreaker should not be a game of chance. I think that we should get these two, the coaches into a boxing match and like do like a tournament so that everybody is the reason they lost. You know what I mean? Like cause if you lose by a coin flip, that's just just that's just pure chance. That boxing. Okay, Sam Pittman, Clark Lee and Sark. I think Sam Pittman would be really scrappy, but Clark Lee is young and still looks like he can play linebacker. Put them in go-karts and made them race. Like it doesn't have to be violent. Make real life Mario Kart. Yeah. Can we give him can we give him exploding turtle shells while we're at it? In this world of college football,
Starting point is 00:52:47 if there was a wing-eating contest, as Aaron suggests, or a go-kart race, or a boxing match, or a one-on-one basketball game between head coaches, thumb wrestling, any activity that you could come up with, even a Madden tournament where they're playing the game with a controller. And the winner of whatever they were doing got a spot in the playoff, I guarantee you that you could get 8 million people to watch that. I guarantee it. watch it. Oh my god. I'm like paddle boats. Rating on a paddle boat. Oh, it's amazing. People would bet on it. Yes. Yeah. How many how many times can you bench 150? Imagine the price big squares for that. Or if you do something that doesn't require physical like like if you're in better shape or whatever like because we haven't we have an ageism situation here like again this would be Sam Pittman versus Steve Sarkeesian
Starting point is 00:53:56 versus Clark Lee. I think most of the physical challenges Clark Lee just dominates. Yeah uh raffle for fan fisticuffs here from Goat Dog. How about declaring your champion single combat? Yeah. And by the way, Aaron. Arkansas just sends out land in Jackson like what's up? Let's go. I would bet on it. You're right. I have bet on the most unbelievable. Like I hammer the hot dog eating contest on July 4th every year. Like I watch the hot dog eating contest with action on it. And like I am who I am. Like I think that everything is better when you can financially gain or suffer from the outcome of what you're watching. And speaking of which last night, Andy, um, the, uh, Northern Illinois Akron game over under, and I was on the under was 46 and the score at halftime was, uh, 23, 16 and the bet hit the under it finished 29, 16.
Starting point is 00:55:01 So, and the reason why it hit is because NIU went for a two-point conversion with seven minutes left and did not get it and it hit by a point and I want To tell you we weren't on the show matching Electricity, okay Except for the one game that was on CBS Sports Network last night. That was the the Akron Who's playing Akron Akron NIU? That's the game I'm talking about. Oh That was the Akron, who was playing Akron? Akron NIU, that's the game I'm talking about. Oh, it was Akron NIU.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Oh yeah, that's right. That was the game where you couldn't see half the time because the camera had bubbles on it. All I knew was that nobody was scoring and that was great. So it was amazing. There's no better feeling in the world than feeling you lost a bet at halftime and then somehow coming back to win it.
Starting point is 00:55:44 So people think I need help. I've bet on like Asian sports at feeling in the world than feeling you lost a bet at halftime and then somehow coming back to win it. So people think I need help. I've bet on like Asian sports at four in the morning before that I've ever heard of just to watch it. So yeah, I mean, I, Andy, you know, a little extra bonus plug for Panini. If people knew what I did with sports cards and my activities in that world, you would be shocked because I am addicted to these cards. I'm addicted to the value of these cards. I'm addicted to holding them. I'm addicted to flipping them and selling them. It is the most amazing hobby ever because it doesn't require building anything. So check out Pannini.
Starting point is 00:56:15 It is incredible. I enjoy it. And yeah, no, I'm not a fan. So if Pannini made you assemble the cards, you'd feel completely differently. So thank you Pannini for the pre-made cards. If I had to put the cards together, they feel completely differently. So thank you, Panini for the the cards together. I would they wouldn't be a sponsor. But listen, I'm just I'm just ripping packs all
Starting point is 00:56:32 the time over here. So like, I just don't. I'm ripping packs. I'm okay. Go ahead. Next thing. Doc says call the number. You know, the pamphlet at Vegas my friends have to call me when the fun stops because that's what that said on the pamphlet for gamblers anonymous when it says when the fun stops. Uh, yeah, no, if, if people knew the extent of it, man, uh, it's all right. Then you think we have a serious question for Mac that doesn't involve Kurt Signetti challenging other big 10 coaches in feats of strength.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Unfortunately theory, Andy and Ari, do both of you think that if Indiana, that Indiana is going to be left out of the playoffs if they don't play in the big 10 championship game, or they just have one loss since they only play Ohio state and not organ a Penn state. We've talked about this, that if they're 11 and one and the, the, who, who have you beaten game gets very intense that they can have a problem. I don't think they're going to have a problem. They're 11 and one as long as the Ohio State game is competitive. As long as they don't get beat 56 to nothing, which I do not think they will. I think they're just fine. I actually think that they I can't wait for Ohio State, Indiana, because I think it's going to be a good game.
Starting point is 00:57:57 So the reality of this to me is that Indiana at 11 and 1, I think if they lose to Ohio State by 17 or less, I think that's the number I would put on it, right? Like you cannot lose. Because then they're basically Penn State, right? Yeah. And Penn State lost by 7 at home. So losing by 17 on the road later. I don't know what, what do you think the number is before it goes from that's an okay loss to, Oh no. I think it's not just the number. It's the way the game goes, but it should be less than three touchdowns. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Okay. So 17, I think is a pretty good, it's a three score game, but it's not quite as bad as three touchdowns? Yeah. Okay. So 17, I think it's a pretty good, it's a three score game, but it's not quite as bad as three touchdowns. But the thing that I want to caution people for, um, is the thought process that like they are 1000% in the playoff at 11 and one, like I don't think, I think they would be, I don't think that it is a guarantee because the committee has already proven to like them a little bit less than other teams as a result of their strength of schedule. So if they finish with like a strength
Starting point is 00:58:55 schedule that's in the 90s, or whatever it is at the end of the year, and they don't have any quality wins, and they're only lost to Ohio State is by 17, you might be compared like, listen, Indiana has to feel comfortable with or can't feel comfortable with how many SEC teams still have a chance at six and two in conference play. They're going to find themselves in head to head debates with two lost SEC teams at the end of the year. And those two lost SEC teams are going to have really sexy wins that Indiana doesn't have. So in theory, I think that Indiana should go as a result of the season that they had,
Starting point is 00:59:26 but you really feel 1000% confident that if it's down to Indiana and a two loss team like A&M with a win. As long as Indiana doesn't get blown out, yeah. Yeah, okay. I think that's how it's gonna be. As long as it's competitive. I think it would be an uncomfortable weekend, Andy.
Starting point is 00:59:43 That's all. I'm not saying they wouldn't get in. I'm saying it's not guaranteed. I think a lot of long as it's competitive. I think it would be an uncomfortable weekend, Andy. That's all I'm not saying they wouldn't get in. I'm saying it's not. I think a lot of people are going to have an uncomfortable weekend. Speaking of uncomfortable, uh, here's something that you might not want to sit next to somebody on a plane afterward. Uh, Justin asks us, please review Nick Saban's recipe live on the air or do a
Starting point is 01:00:03 cooking with Andy and Ari segment. Nick Saban's recipe live on the air or do a cooking with Andy and Ari segment. So last night our friends at the sickos committee posted from when Nick Saban was the head coach at Toledo. Nick's favorite baked beans. This is a recipe that Nick Saban submitted. I don't know where he submitted this to, to the Mac office. I'm not entirely sure, but there's a young Nick Saban smiling and a recipe for Nick's favorite baked beans. I will read it to you. One large
Starting point is 01:00:33 53 and a quarter ounce can of pork and beans, a pound and a half of hamburger, a cup of green pepper finely chopped, or sorry, third cup of green pepper finely chopped, third cup of carrots finely chopped, third cup of onions finely chopped, quarter cup of carrots finely chopped third cup of onions finely chopped quarter cup of celery finely chopped so you got the trinity plus some carrots half a cup of ketchup third of a cup of brown sugar salt and pepper half a cup of medium salsa if you want brown your ground beef with with small amount of onion small salt and pepper drain your ground beef combine all the remaining ingredients with the ground beef and bake for an hour at 350. Ari, how could this possibly be bad? This looks amazing. I'll ask you this because I thought it was kind of bizarre, Andy. Have you ever had baked beans or beans with celery in it? I don't know that I've had them with celery. I definitely had someone
Starting point is 01:01:20 where someone added onions to them, But the Trinity makes everything better. And this has the Trinity. Green pepper, onions, and celery. That's the Trinity. This would be amazing. This would be so good. I mean, I think that it would be an absolutely dream scenario for you to hold on to this picture and for us during the off season to go to Nick Saban and make it with him. Oh my god. Can you imagine the numbers that the would do? Yes, he'd hate it now.
Starting point is 01:01:51 This is a man that eats the same salad every day for lunch. We'll bribe him with 50 oatmeal cream pies to just do it with us for 10 minutes, 15 minutes. I would murder this. The hamburger part, if you were sitting next to me. I would murder you for the next eight hours The hamburger parts interesting. I'll give them that Can you imagine the farts you'd rip after this thing? I love baked beans. I love them Big beans are delicious Yeah, we need to I tell you what we get a Bush's sponsorship
Starting point is 01:02:27 And then we go to Nick Saban because I don't think he has a baked bean deal. Have you ever had Bush's zero sugar baked beans? I have not. I just tried to wish they were. They're incredible. Hey Bush's let's go. For me, I've been trying to cut down on sugar intake. And obviously there are carbs inherently just in beans.
Starting point is 01:02:48 But if you can get the electric sauce that is in baked beans, that is just pure sugar, very good. And yes, I do think it's kind of repulsive and odd that British people eat beans at breakfast. Like that doesn't. It is a little weird. The American mind. I can't comprehend that.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Aaron in the chat explaining the concept of the Trinity, which I did not explain very well. The Trinity, if you cook, especially if you cook a lot of Southern dishes, is green peppers, onions, and celery chopped up together. In fact, if you go to Publix, you can actually buy pre-chopped trinity, which is incredible because it saves you a lot of effort.
Starting point is 01:03:29 But she explains the, where it came from. Classic Mearpaw has celery instead of onions. The French immigrants in Louisiana found they could grow peppers more easily than celery and boom, Southern Trinity. There you go. So you learn stuff on this show. Ari, we have to sign off now, but if the folks would like to see a little more of us. So our guy JD Pickel, I have to check because I have not checked in the last few minutes
Starting point is 01:03:57 if the blessed event has occurred, but JD Pickel is on the verge, on the precipice of becoming a dad JD Piquel is on the verge, on the precipice of becoming a dad, like within the next few hours. And so he's going to be off for a little while. We will be filling in for him on the hard count until he gets back. So the hard count, if you don't know, is the show that comes on the On3 Sports channel at 11 a.m. Eastern, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. So it is Thursday. We got an 11 a.m. Eastern
Starting point is 01:04:26 edition of the hard count. Me and Ari are filling in. We're going to talk about the Jeremy Fowler report that some NFL teams are interested in Dan Lanning. We're talking about a very highly rated offensive line recruit who is visiting Colorado this weekend and some great video that he posted. And we'll talk more about Tennessee, Georgia. We'll also visit with our pal, Pete Nacos talking coordinator, bingo, talking transfer portal. The Nacosifications are turned on.
Starting point is 01:05:00 We'll talk to you on this show on Saturday. Raymond, Raymond, you don't have to wait till tomorrow pal. Listen to what Andy saying. We're about to go live again. 25 minutes. 25 minutes. We'll be right back. But also we'll talk to you Saturday after those games.

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