Andy & Ari On3 - Will Texas be a SERIOUS national championship contender in 2026? Why isn't Jeremiah Smith the Heisman Trophy favorite? Who is to blame for USC & Notre Dame not playing?

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

As we head into the weekend, it’s time for a Dear Andy & Ari show. While Ari made an appearance on the Paul Finebaum Show on Thursday afternoon, it didn’t go quite as planned. Meanwhile, Brad from... Macon, Ari’s nemesis from the Paul Finebaum Show, sends in a question on how in the world Ari could predict Texas as the national champion. This got Andy & Ari thinking: With Georgia off the schedule, can the Longhorns REALLY contend for a title? Andy & Ari breakdown the visit with Paul Finebaum and the Longhorns here.   (0:00) Today’s Episode (0:53) Presenting Sponsor (2:36) Intro: Ari’s visit with the Paul Finebaum Show (4:39) Brad’s Question: Ari’s Analysis (6:29) Will Texas ever contend for a title? (16:20) Dear Andy & Ari, Why isn’t Jeremiah Smith a Heisman favorite? (28:57) Why USC isn’t playing Notre Dame: Who’s to blame? (39:01) Could the Army-Navy game be played on Veterans Day? (42:33) Does Brandon Walker get a free t-shirt? (44:10) NCAA Proposing Rules on Blind Spring Transfers (51:52) Conclusion: See you Monday!   After the Texas discussion, Andy & Ari move their focus to the Heisman Trophy odds. Although Jeremiah Smith is widely considered the best player in college football, why isn’t he the favorite for the Heisman Trophy? Andy & Ari discuss the Heisman Trophy Odds from BetMGM here.   From the Heisman Trophy to a storied rivalry, one game we won’t be seeing this season is Notre Dame vs USC. As this is the first year in quite some time the two teams won’t play (besides 2020), who is to blame? Andy & Ari discuss   Could the Army-Navy game be played on November 11th - Veterans Day?   To close, Andy & Ari discuss the proposed rules from the NCAA regarding blind spring transfers.   Pete Nakos’ story on NCAA rules: https://www.on3.com/news/ncaa-proposes-penalties-as-programs-brace-for-spring-blind-transfers-its-going-to-be-a-horrible-look/   Thanks for watching!   Send in your juiciest games for the 2026 season here: andystapleson3@gmail.com ari.wasserman@on3.com   Our show is also presented by BetMGM!   If you haven’t signed up for BetMGM yet, use bonus code ON3 and you will get up to a $1500 First Bet Offer on your first wager with BetMGM! Here’s how it works:   1. Download the BetMGM app and sign-up using bonus code ON3. 2. Deposit at least $10 and place your first wager on any game. 3. You will receive up to $1500 in bonus bets if your bet loses! Just make sure you use bonus code ON3 when you sign up!   Make this college football season one for the history books. Make it legendary.   See BetMGM.com for Terms. 21+ only. US promotional offers not available in New York, Nevada, Ontario, or Puerto Rico. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (Available in the US). Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-327-5050 (MA), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). First Bet Offer for new customers only. Subject to eligibility requirements. Rewards are non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire in 7 days. In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel.   Join On3 today! https://www.on3.com/join   Watch our show on YouTube: https://youtu.be/innbF3G7vNM   Hosts: Andy Staples, Ari Wasserman Producer: River Bailey   Interested in partnering with the show? Email advertise@on3.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On today is Andy and Ari on 3 presented by BetMGM. It is a dear Andy, dear Ari show. Your questions answered. Ari's nemesis from the Fine Bomb Show asked a question about Ari's continued hype of Texas in the SEC. Will Ari stand up for the Longhorns or will he back down? Also, whose fault is it that USC is? is not playing Notre Dame.
Starting point is 00:00:31 The blame has been passed around, but one listener believes that the blame lies squarely with the Trojans, we will discuss. Also, if Jeremiah Smith is the best player in college football, why isn't he the Heisman favorite? We'll discuss that as well.
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Starting point is 00:02:46 We got questions from the people, including one person who I expected to be yelling at you on my television yesterday. But that didn't happen, mostly because your Paul Penins, I think, did not go. as I had planned. I was expecting Brad and Macon to be screaming at you over your choice of T-shirt. Your Big Ten trifecta T-shirt came in the mail. You bought it specifically
Starting point is 00:03:13 to wear on Fynbaum. Producer River, can you show us a shot of Ari on Fiamondon? Ari. Unless the logos are on the shoulders, that's not going to work. All-time bag, fumble. All-time bag.
Starting point is 00:03:26 And I need to get into my bathroom and shave. I'm looking like a caveman. I need to be shure. shaving every three days. I don't know why it takes me every other week. Yeah, that was, I'm kind of upset about that. I thought that it would at least be visible during transitions or at some point in the show and it wasn't. And that was like a $48 T-shirt when you consider tax and shipping. And I'm never going to get worn or wear that in public because I don't want people to throw fruit at me. So, you know, like it's a, it was not the way I planned it. But, you know, the good thing that I feel really solid about Andy is, is, that I converted one of the angry SECers from the Fine Bomb show into a listener of our show, a listener into our show so much so that he asks a question. And I'm very... He loves our show. Brad and Macon loves our show.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Brad and Macon, regular Fine Bomb Caller, Big Georgia fan, nemesis of Ari Wasserman, calls Ari the little tenor. Which is hilarious when you get to his question, how funny, how ironic that turns out to be. Well, in this particular case, yeah, he's not even asking about. the little 10. He's, he's asking about straight up SEC and at this point. So this, we'll start with Braden-Macon's question. Andy, why does Ari come up with the worst analysis? I literally just asked me the question. It's not even dear Ari, it's dear Andy. Why does Arii come up with the worst analysis? Picking Texas to win it all, how'd they do against
Starting point is 00:04:52 Georgia the last two years? Adopt the pen and teller model. Andy, your pen and Ari, your teller. so shut up and sit your ass down i've uh never seen that show andy have you been to it because it's in Vegas and i've always won't i have not i would i would love to you don't really get the reference is tell her like the funny sidekick or something teller's silent oh didn't know that pen is very talkative pen jolette very talkative yeah you could just do your show from two years ago and i'll just sit over here and not say anything that'll be good but i still get paid that would be funny. But we leave the camera on you. We just leave the box up. Yeah, I'd be like AJ Hawk. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, AJ Hawk's a friend of the show.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I like AJ Hawk. I just think it's funny that he always gets made fun of for not talking. I think it's, I, as someone who has been lucky enough to live, well, basically where his wife wants him to live for most, most of his days. I appreciate that AJ has managed to have a spot on one of the biggest shows in the universe, and he didn't even have to move. Yeah, he's great. And he was a better linebacker. I don't think people remember how good of a linebacker that guy was. So freaking good.
Starting point is 00:06:10 All right, enough little 10 talk. Enough little 10, are you? What I do, I just try with every fiber of my being to rip any SEC topic and turn it into a big 10. Brad's head's about to explode. You're like, why ask a Georgia and Texas question? And he's talking about an Ohio state line. All right, let's talk about the Texas of it all. We talk about this with Chris Lowe on yesterday's show.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Interesting that Brad brings up Georgia, which Texas does not play this season in the regular season. Now, maybe they will meet in the SEC championship game or sometime in the playoff. But I find it interesting thinking about this because as good as Texas has been, Georgia has been their kryptonite. since they entered the SEC.
Starting point is 00:06:51 They're 0-3 against Georgia, the regular season meeting in both years, the SEC championship game in 2024. And two of those meetings, the SEC championship game was a tight game, but two of those meetings were kind of beat downs. And, but here's the thing, Brad in Macon, Ari can pick Texas to win the national title all he wants this year
Starting point is 00:07:17 because they don't play Georgia. Well, you know, I don't think. I think Georgia is the team that's going to get them. You're going to have to meet them somewhere that you have to earn your way to. Yeah, I don't understand. Like, I understand that he's a Georgia fan. And, you know, Georgia obviously has been one of the premier programs of the last five plus years. But I don't understand why the question is framed through the lens of George anyway.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Like, that has nothing to do with anything. Like, George is a Georgia fan. I know. That's what I get. It's like, but like from my perspective, it's like how they do against Georgia the last two years? I don't know. Not very good. but both teams ended up in the same place,
Starting point is 00:07:54 not the national title game. So, like, I don't know, like, why. This ended up further in the playoffs than Georgia did two years ago. In 24, it didn't make the playoff, but Georgia did. Yeah. But Georgia lost in the quarterfinals both years. So, like, I don't know. There's no nexus between those two things,
Starting point is 00:08:10 but I think that the ironic part about this, and, like, this is why we always butt heads, is that Andy, his number one thing when he yells at me, when I make appearances on the fine bomb show saying the big 10 is really good now, is that the SEC has all this talent. It possesses all this talent. Why are you even talking about other conferences? The talent is all in the South.
Starting point is 00:08:31 And he's like really into that like 2017 talking point. So then why are you confused why I would pick one of the more talented teams? Because you didn't pick his favorite team. It's like, why does he keep picking Texas? I don't know, Brad. They have a lot of good players on their team. Like, I mean, it's not that complex. So, you know, yes, they have not fared well again.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Georgia the past few years, they were a touchdown away or a possession away or a freaking inch away from tying the game against Ohio State in the semis a few years ago. You don't run in Ohio State near the goal line. So, you know, we don't want to relive the toss play call there. But, like, it is not that insane of a pick. And, like, I honestly, how do we haven't made our picks
Starting point is 00:09:12 going into next year. But Andy, I think Texas is as attractive as a pick of anybody in college football to win the championship next year. It's a very attractive pick. throw the schedule up there again, producer river, please. Again, I mentioned they don't have Georgia. We have to study these schedules this year because the Big Ten has shuffled things up in its schedule. The SEC is going to nine games, so the SEC schedules all look radically different than what we've seen before.
Starting point is 00:09:40 And we kind of need to familiarize ourselves with this. Like with Texas, we knew they had Ohio State early in the season, so they're playing them week two. Like we just learned all of this a few months ago. We knew obviously they would be playing Oklahoma when they are because they always do. We knew they'd be playing Texas A&M at the end of the season, and that game would be in college station. Everything else was a mystery. And, you know, look, I don't know what the Florida team that goes to Austin in October after the Oklahoma game.
Starting point is 00:10:09 I don't know what that's going to look like. Ole Miss, like I'm kind of excited about the Ole Miss at Texas game because, you know, Trinidad Shameless and Kiwan Lacey against some. this Texas defense, that feels like a very fun game. Yeah, you know, I think that my view for Texas this year, Andy, is that Texas should just be what I thought Texas was going to be last year. And you know what? We might show up in August and see them play against Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:10:36 They could lay an egg and they might not be very good at all. But I am 100 percent buying back into the hype that Arch Manning is going to be very good. That's something that Chris Lowe, you know, shares an opinion with and, you know, was on the show talking about on Thursday. I think that Cam Coleman is the best non-Geremiah Smith receiver in college football and hasn't been appreciated enough yet for circumstances that were out of his control. I think that their running backs are much better. I don't think it's possible for their offensive line to be as slow of a start
Starting point is 00:11:04 or as bad as they were for the first half of last year. It's going to be better. And I think that part of it, the offensive line being better, that's the biggest piece of it. I mean, it's all adding up again to, you know, a very good team. And like, obviously, predict. predicting college football in 2026 and beyond is much more difficult than it was six, seven years ago. In fact, I think that the entire national media was kind of on board with two teams being very good last year. And Clemson and Penn State, both of them stunk.
Starting point is 00:11:34 And there was that running bit. I think on three actually did it where they took everybody's preseason national champion in the national media and, like, tweeted out a graphic and like all of us, but like one person were wrong. And then ultimately all of us were wrong because nobody picked Indiana. So, like, you know, I don't know what it's going to be, but I have, until somebody helps me read through the tea leaves and explain to me a new way of trying to pick who's going to be good outside of who has the best players, you know, maybe there's a new formula to it. Who do you think has the best chemistry, which coach is the hottest? Who like, but like, if I, am I supposed to know that Indiana is going to win the national championship last February? I mean, maybe I should have. Yeah, that's what you get paid for, dude.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Yeah. You didn't know that? No, I get paid to chronicle the past, not predict the future. So what I find interesting about this Texas thing is they went nine and three last year, didn't make the playoff. And now it feels like we've been sunk back into the, oh, you guys always overrate Texas. And I feel like Steve Sarkeesians earned the benefit of the doubt at this point. And if we go back to last season, they did lay an egg against Florida. That's true.
Starting point is 00:12:39 But by the end of the season, they were really good. And I'm just, I'm not going to just say, oh, they are. you know, 2010's era, Texas again, that always underachieve, they don't always underachieve. They produce NFL players now, which is something they weren't doing back then. They're going to keep being good. I mean, think where we are right now. Where are we right now? Texas goes nine and three, loses to Ohio State in the opener by a touchdown, misses the
Starting point is 00:13:07 playoffs, and they're a disaster. Like, that's the disaster. That was a season that Texas would have died for five years ago. Like, so, you know, I kind of have a bucket of teams. that I think are going to break through and eventually win a national championship in the next five to ten years at some point. And maybe as soon as this year, Oregon's in that bucket. Texas is in that bucket. It kind of feels like LSU is now in that bucket, even though they're not a team that's starving for championships.
Starting point is 00:13:34 They won one in 19. I think that these two programs specifically, Oregon and Texas, have done a very good job of knocking on the door. It's a concept we talk about on the show all the time. And like if you actually like were, and we did this like last summer, do it again. It's a long, long offseason, but like drafting or listing the 25 best players in college football going into next year. Like, does Texas have four or five of them? Like, it's, it's just not that hard to draw a line from point A to point B. It might not turn out that way. But like, if you think someone's crazy for picking the team with awesome players, then you're not
Starting point is 00:14:06 analyzing the sport the same way than I am. An example, Clark Brooks, the stat cat who did his impact players list last year, that was where I realized I'd messed up on Indiana. because I believe they had five or six in the top 100. They were right there with Texas and Georgia and the other ones, and it was eye-opening. And I think I'll be curious to see how many Texas has on that list going into this year. And Clark usually does that spring practice into spring practice. So we'll have him on when he does it.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And they have an ovaries in their stadium, so it's really hard to, like, get in on that. That's an ovaries. Look at that. What do you see there? I it's a longhorn it looks like ovaries to me maybe ovaries look like a longhorn I don't know
Starting point is 00:14:55 hook them see you were you almost had Texas fans back on your side and you have to do that I think Texas fans know it looks like you don't think that looks like ovaries look at me in the eyes right now and tell me that isn't over I didn't say it didn't I'm just saying don't know how to make people happy
Starting point is 00:15:14 you get them you get them back coming back toward maybe that Ari Wasserman my white ass is not so bad and then you say something like I never mind Brad's right about one thing well he's not right about anything but he's he's on to something here which is um like I've been pretty complimentary and consistently positive in the views of Texas and if you go back and like read some of the columns that I wrote about Texas pre-steefsarkesian like during the Tom Herman era and stuff like Texas was like in my opinion like one of the biggest underachievers and most frustrating programs to track. And I view that.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I think Texas fans would agree with you on that. You know, if you want to get mad at me about the ovaries thing, that's fine. But like, I've got a lot of respect for what Steve Sarkesian is built there. And I am anticipating they'll be very good, not just this year, but into the future. All right, Watson on my white ass. You got to let the ovary thing go. You just got to. I talked about it for like a minute.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I won't bring it up again. You brought it up like six. times in a minute. Next question. Okay. Next question comes from Wade. I'm sorry, the next question comes from Chris. Chris says, if we all know that Jeremiah Smith is the best player in football and may have been the last two years as well, how is he not the Heisman favorite? Isn't it for the best player in football? It is for the most outstanding player in the United States. Best and most outstanding are not always the same thing. But you're the He always votes for best player.
Starting point is 00:16:46 No, well, I vote for the player that I would pick on my college football team if I were starting it from scratch this year using only the stats from this year. That would have been Fernando Mendoza. Did you see the discourse coming out of the NFL combine this week about how Ty Simpson had a better illustration of like tape for the first eight weeks of the season in Fernando Mendoza and that like Ty Simpson could be an underappreciated draft process? I think it's all clear that Fernando's going one-one. But I do think it's just kind of interesting when we get into NFL draft season,
Starting point is 00:17:20 how we start to like manipulate the season and what happened and try to like. It's not manipulating anything. Ty Simpson was awesome for a period of the season. And then he was banged up and not awesome at the end. Yeah. All this to say is, you know, it's an annual conversation and we will continue to revisit it. But it is a quarterback award. And you have to put up absolutely insane numbers to break the club.
Starting point is 00:17:44 So yeah, and that's the problem. So Jeremiah Smith, I've got my bed MGM app up right now. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Jeremiah Smith is number eight in terms of the odds. Jeremiah Smith is plus 1,400. Ari, very interesting, though, who is the favorite as we record this in late February? I know the answer to this, and I haven't even looked at the list unless it's changed. When I popped the list open, I was like, oh, I was surprised, but then it's kind of the Alonzo
Starting point is 00:18:23 morning gif where after a second or so, oh, I get, but I get it. I get it. Did you ever do your list of top quarterbacks? Did you ever get around doing that? I didn't. I keep putting it off. I keep putting it off. I keep putting it off, dude.
Starting point is 00:18:37 No, I want to do more research. I'm going to do the prediction for the starting quarterback for every power conference. team and Notre Dame. And then I will, after that, compile my list of the top 10. Well, I didn't put the number one quarterback on the Heisman list in my top five. And I heard about it. Is it still C.J. Carr? I think you're probably wrong on that. But again, we've talked about it. There's a lot more returning production this year. So you can make arguments for more people. but CJ Carr, Notre Dame quarterback, CJ Car, is the current highestman favorite at BetMGM, plus 700, followed by Arch Manning and Trinidad Shameless at plus 800, Dante Moore at plus 1100, Julian Seine plus 200.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Josh Hoover, who's transferring from TCU to Indiana. He's at plus 1,200. So there will not be a missing out on the Indiana transfer. People are hip to that now. But CJ Carr is a good choice here. makes sense here because he's going to be playing behind a really good offensive line. He's a year older.
Starting point is 00:19:49 He was really efficient last year. I have no problem with this choice right here. The Jeremiah Smith thing, I get the spirit of the question. And Jeremiah Smith still might go number one in the 27 NFL draft, even with potentially a bunch of quarterbacks. Because he's that special. But like you said, as a receiver, you have to put up insane numbers. And Devante Smith wanted in 2020, he did put up those kinds of numbers.
Starting point is 00:20:23 And if you watched Devante Smith play it all in 2020, you got it. He was the most dominant player in college football. It was not close. One of the single best receiving seasons, I don't know statistically where it stacks up, but visually it's like one of the best most dominant. performances I've ever seen from an individual. So, you know, I, with Jeremiah Smith, like last year, they had Carnell Tate on the team, who, by the way, I don't know if you've been paying attention to the combine, but like
Starting point is 00:20:52 B-B wide receiver one. Yeah. It's like being mocked to the Browns at like seven or something. Like it's, you know, so there was a lot of production value being split between a lot of very good players on that team. So even though I believe him to be the most dominant player in college football and half for the past two seasons. It isn't necessarily manifesting in the numbers.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And there are a lot of people who vote for that trophy who do not watch the games. And, you know, kind of look at the stats and, you know, that's kind of how it shapes it. And like, honestly, as much as you, you know, resent my Heisman trophy viewing strategy of telling the story. But, like, you couldn't have, you, like, who won the trophy last year, even if it might have been both true, the best overall player in the country. but like his story was phenomenally interesting. So like here. But here's the thing. And this is the difference between the NFL draft and the Heisman.
Starting point is 00:21:46 And also how I do mine, like I said, I do it if I were starting a college football team from scratch using only the stats from this season and the production from this season. And your eyes for the game. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Who would I pick? If I had to do it now where I don't get any production numbers, I have no. evidence to pick from. If they just said, Andy, you're drafting a college football team from scratch right now,
Starting point is 00:22:16 who you got number one, it's Jeremiah Smith. Yeah. And I'll need to see more in the season. But if I am doing it without the benefit of any performances this season, and it's just who you got, I'm taking Jeremiah Smith. I mean, I actually think that Jeremiah Smith might be a sneaky good play too, because the other thing that worked against Ohio State last year, Andy, was they didn't play any interesting high.
Starting point is 00:22:39 leverage games during the regular season, and there was never any opportunity for him to have a big moment on a stage that everybody was locked in on. So like next year with their schedule, they play Texas on the road. You know, Texas, I think ultimately is going to be a much better team. And frankly, I don't know how they're underdogs right now. If I were looking at the look ahead line, I would take Texas right now with points at home. But he has opportunity throughout his schedule with USC and Indiana and Oregon all in a row. Michigan obviously is there. Illinois and Iowa are going to be, I mean, they've got a pretty tough schedule next year. So, you know, I think that if he produces a thousand yards season
Starting point is 00:23:15 and has 17 touchdowns or something, like he has a chance to win it, especially if they're playing close games that mean something in October and November. Yeah, this is fascinating. I'm going down the list of the of the Heisman odds. Dary and Mince is not on the board right now. There's a lock next to his name. So we'll see what that probably changes soon.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I wonder why that's the case. I mean, he's been at Miami now for a few. I mean, a month. Austin Mac is plus 5,000. At this point last year, he might not win the Alabama job. Keelan Russell is also up for the Alabama job. He's a plus 8,000.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Keelan Russell would be a really good bet right now, I think. You know who else is plus 8,000? Who? Our guy, J.K.S. Jern Kaya Be Sangapal. Yeah, from Cal. I think, I mean, your team has to be good. And I know that Cal might be pretty good next year,
Starting point is 00:24:12 but you got to be, like, The Indiana story. Here we go. Here we go. Dylan Riola plus 15,000. Backing up Dante Moore at Oregon. Take it and then convince Dante to go to the NFL. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:30 He's not playing. He's leaving now. Yeah. But as far as Jeremiah Smith goes, if you're asking me right now to use the same Heisman procedure, but I don't have the whole season. in front of, you know, the whole season's worth of performances in front of me, I'm going to guess that Jeremiah Smith was the best player because if you play the season a hundred times,
Starting point is 00:24:52 there's probably 50 of them where he's the best player. Yeah. And, you know, with the quarterback, more so than even last year, like, who do you take number one at your quarterback spot? Like, if you were going to make that pick, like quarterback's a little bit more murky. Even if you go look at the list, when you get around to yours, go look at other people's lists. So everybody is a different number one. Well, and the thing is, if you're going down this Heisman list,
Starting point is 00:25:17 I mentioned Josh Hoover, Jaden Mayavas plus 1,400, USC, Marcel Reed's plus 2,200 at Texas A&M, John Matier plus 2,500 at Oklahoma, Brennan Sorsby at Texas Tech plus 2,500, Byron Brown and Auburn plus 2,500, Bryce Underwood at Michigan plus 3,500. So, like, DeMond Williams, who we talked to Jed Fish at length about,
Starting point is 00:25:38 plus 4,500. Like, DeMond Williams could put up massive numbers on a team that may win 10 games. Like that's kind of the profile of people who go to New York. I mean, the last two years, the Heisman winners have been major long shots at this time. So if you go. Yeah, Diego Pavia wasn't high on anybody's list right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:00 You know, I think. And obviously Mendoza was nowhere on anybody's list. I still have the big manning thing hanging over my shoulder. It's like, if he's good, he's manning, if he's good, he's manning. Like, that's still talking to me in my ear. I was in veil last year and maybe it was the altitude but I guaranteed he would go
Starting point is 00:26:18 I'm kind of guaranteeing again that he's going to go so you know I mean we're going to make a whole show you're guaranteeing with your with your body with my body you're going to run five miles you'll survive yeah I'll be okay but I mean this is a whole show at some point
Starting point is 00:26:36 in the off season who are the 10 best long shots to take like I think I love it I love it will have that show yeah Do we count Jeremiah as a long shot where he is? Probably not. I'm talking like 20,000 plus. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Well, again, I'm taking Jeremiah if I don't have any information from this season. If I just say, who do you think is going to be the best player this season? I'm taking Jeremiah right now. So he would be my preseason favorite. But again, do you think he would have been a bigger favorite to win the award if he would have gone to South Florida? Just like a thought exercise? Do you think that going to a small school and like fall? following your coach and then making them awesome.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Like is a more compelling storyline than being another good player. By the way, Ohio State's going to have like four players taken in the first round. He put up bigger numbers there because there wouldn't be anybody really to take away from the numbers. And who could cover them at that level? Yeah, right. And Ohio State is going to have other receivers that are going to get thrown to. Obviously, Jeremiah Smith will get the attention of some of the best defenses in college football. Because as you pointed out, Ohio State's regular season schedule is significantly tougher this year.
Starting point is 00:27:43 than it was last year. It's just harder to stand out on a team that has, like, Andy, I don't know if you're, you know this. They might have five of the first top 15 players taken in the NFL drop pitcher. Yes. Right. So. And that's, it's obviously not that level every season, but there are multiple first round
Starting point is 00:28:03 picks on the Buckeyes, almost all seasons. There are multiple top 100 picks on the Buckeyes every season. So that's, that's what you're in. And probably multiple top 100 picks on the offense. every season. So that's the part that there's a little bit of competition. 15 picks isn't even the quarterback. And that's the other thing.
Starting point is 00:28:22 It happened to him last year too. If Jeremiah Smith is a Heisman finalist, so will Julian say it. And then they split votes. Right. And that's what happened with DeWante Smith. Mack Jones was a finalist as well. Kyle Trask was a finalist that year. I think Kyle Pitts probably
Starting point is 00:28:37 should have been. And obviously, Pitt's success and Trask success were combined. Jack Jones and Devonte Smith's successful. So Sayan and Smith, yeah, they're, they're handcuffed. Tough break for Kyle Pitts, too. I was living that Kansas City chief stream for them. And it's not going to pan out.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Yeah, franchise tag. That's right. All right. Next question from Wade. Can we finally settle who is to blame for USC and Notre Dame not playing anymore? It's USC. Their proposal was to play in week zero, which neither team was eligible to play due to NCAA rules. USC's only offer for an eligible.
Starting point is 00:29:15 game was Mexico City in week zero, a joke. So here's the thing, Wade, and I'm not sure if that's your real name because Wade Garrett is the Sam Elliott character in Roadhouse, in which case I appreciate that too. But how we frame this will determine who we decide. I think if we are going by the spirit of things, I think Wade is right. I think USC gave Notre Dame a very difficult set of circumstances to play in, which, so here's the deal with week zero, which, by the way, this may change. There's a proposal to change this that the NCAA is probably going to pass, where next year, week zero is going to become week one.
Starting point is 00:30:03 But right now, if you want to play week zero, you have to play against Hawaii. That gives you the opportunity to play in week zero if you want to, or you have to play an international game, hence Mexico City. The only way USC and Notre Dame could have played without a waiver, because remember, Florida and Miami got a waiver a few years ago to play in Orlando on Wii Zero. But the only way to do it without a waiver, which this would have been a pretty late date for a waiver, is to play internationally. So the Mexico City thing would have made sense for that.
Starting point is 00:30:36 So yes, USC gave Notre Dame an extremely narrow set of circumstances to continue that game. And by the way, the reason Wade is asking this question is USC did, finalize its schedule, they will be playing San Jose State in Week Zero. San Jose State plays away. What did Marcus Freeman say? He said anytime, anywhere, and that's the part I was going to get to. Oh, okay. Week Zero is a time.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Mexico City is a place. So if you said anytime anywhere, and you said no to Mexico City in Week Zero, then you're not willing to play them anytime anywhere. Mexico City would be kind of fun. I heard that play. They have great food there. high altitude oh i didn't know that very high altitude so it's kind of yeah i believe they're higher up than denver i think there might have been an ancient aliens episode about some of the
Starting point is 00:31:29 rock formations that are in there and where they came from but that's it's another ancient astronaut theorists believe i mean like i guess like if u sc made it harder like notre dame still could have figured it out if it was like important enough to them well that's the thing anytime anywhere but I tend to agree with way I think I think that is being very it's you're taking that anytime anywhere to its extreme they are as you said I will I will do it only in this place only at this time and then they probably put that out there knowing that Notre Dame wouldn't want to so it's like kind of like that's like you know I'm not saying that Notre Dame is all to blame here but I feel like in the power struggle of which team is weaker or more afraid, it's like we're like so.
Starting point is 00:32:21 But we know, look, USC doesn't want to play Notre Dame because USC has a very tough Big Ten schedule. And a part of it also was not wanting to play Notre Dame where Notre Dame falls on the schedule traditionally. So this was a game at USC this year, which would have been the last weekend of the regular season is traditionally where that fell. and given SC's Big Ten schedule, I don't think they wanted it at the back end of that gauntlet. But the question I have for you, Andy, and I don't know the answer to this, what was Notre Dame's biggest reason for not wanting to play that game? Because of what happened last year?
Starting point is 00:33:02 Notre Dame wanted to play the game. No, but not wanting to play in Week Zero in Mexico City. Like, what's the number one drawback to that? Because I think that Notre Dame should have learned from last year that they need to play as many of these types of games as possible. Well, they definitely need this game. Yeah. I mean, if they don't play USC last year, they're not even in the conversation for the playoff probably. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:25 They just missed it, but and they wouldn't remember if the playoff rules that are in effect for 26 had been in effect last year, Notre Dame would have made it. I'm going to read off Notre Dame schedule for now. Here it is, if you're watching. Wisconsin. Listen, Rice, Michigan State, Purdue, North Carolina, Stanford, BYU, Navy, Miami, BC, SMU, Syracuse. And I can already see it from a mile away. BYU is going to be a 10-win team again next year, and they're going to be using that as their quality wins and the debates, and they're not going to have the games that they need so you better out.
Starting point is 00:34:00 If they beat Miami and they beat BYU, I think they're going to be okay. You can't lose twice next year, or you're at risk. I don't know about that because I, all right, flashed. Notre Dame schedule up again there, producer river. This is one that looks somewhat easy on paper, I think. But there's a possibility that gets more difficult.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Like, Wisconsin could be quite a bit better. I don't know if they're going to be, but they could be. First year under Pat Fitzgerald for Michigan State, we'll see about that. Bill Belichick's defense got better. We'll see, we'll see what, you know, what they do on offense. We know BYU and Miami are going to be good. We know SMU is going to be good. I don't have a lot of faith in Boston College.
Starting point is 00:34:38 and if Steve Angelly, if Steve Angelly stays healthy for Syracuse, they could be pretty good. Did you just strain a muscle in your back trying to make that schedule hard? I didn't say it was hard. Okay. I just don't think it's as easy as it looks.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Yeah, I'm not saying it's like the easiest. But it would be a lot better if USC was on it. Think about how I feel like a year removed from not getting in because you didn't have enough quality wins. It's kind of a tricky thing to say no to that, regardless of how insane the circumstances are. I still place more blame on USC for the end of this. And I understand, but this is the same thing we've said to the Texas fans,
Starting point is 00:35:17 the same things we said to the Alabama fans, same things we said to the Nebraska fans, same things we said to two Texas Tech head coach Joey McGuire himself, to the Indiana fans, don't, what's out of these games? Stop it. Stop. Go play them. I hate both of them right now for it.
Starting point is 00:35:35 And also, this isn't just a tough game. It's a game that's meaningful to the fabric of a sport. Yeah, like it's not just like any like tough non-con game. Like this is a game that we. But what USC can say is we have this tough conference schedule. And USC is probably correct in that the Big Ten draw this year. Now, if they got like Ohio State's Big Ten draw last year, this would not be a good schedule at all. But they did get a hard Big Ten draw so they can say, hey, look, we got Oregon, we got Washington.
Starting point is 00:36:05 We are going to Penn State in Indiana. we have Ohio State coming us. We are challenged. And if we are 10 and 2 at the end of that, we're in. And they're probably right. And they're right. Yep. But that sucks.
Starting point is 00:36:18 And I hope it winds up in a situation where somebody, like Texas, which is playing Ohio State, or Ohio State, which is playing Texas, like I hope whoever wins that game, if they get in the situation where they are on the fringe, that they get it. in over a team that ducked a game like that. Just to pay a lesson to the people who ducked it and also to put an end to this asinine talking point that hard games don't matter. I just can't continue to live in a world where that's an accepted. The committee has to continue to reinforce that.
Starting point is 00:36:57 And a lot of people believe the committee never does that. We've given them examples of when the committee did it, including last year when Miami got in. Because they beat Notre Dame. A decade plus of data, but it's fine. Yeah. But yes, I hope the teams that duck these games get punished. I do. And I don't want to hear about it. It's both their faults. If we're assigning percentage of blame, I'd say 75% USC, 25% Notre Dame. All right, good luck. May the force be with you. If that gets clear.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Anytime, any place. Mexico City's a place. Weak zero's a time. So you do have to share some of it. You might need that game. You might need it. I don't know if, I mean, it would be terrible if the same thing happened to Notre Dame again. But you need those games. Or you need one of these teams that's on the list here to be extraordinary when we're not expecting it. Like for all we know, Wisconsin's 10 and 2 next year. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:53 But it's looking at it right now. It doesn't look like there's... Or they just go 12 and 0. I mean, Rice, Michigan State, Purdue, North Carolina, Stanford. I mean, come on. Well, like North Carolina and Stanford is not their choice. No, I know. With the ACC handed them.
Starting point is 00:38:12 It's not going to be very persuasive next year, is all I'm saying. Yeah, I know. And this is Notre Dame's problem is they're lucky that the ACC gave them Miami when they did. And they gave them SMU when they did because at least Notre Dame's going to have challenging games in that part of the season. Yeah, or if you do lose next year. If you do lose next year,
Starting point is 00:38:36 lose to a bad team and beat the good ones. They didn't have that last year. They beat all the bad teams. Right. They lost in Northern Illinois and beat everybody else and they got in the playoff. And then they made it to the national championship game. But yeah, if we're assigning blame, I'm going to assign 75% blame to USC and 25% to
Starting point is 00:38:54 Notre Dame. I think that's perfectly fair. And I'm sure everybody will internalize that. With fan bases, we'll disagree completely. But next question comes from our friend. Lori. Could we move the Army Navy game to Veterans Day, November 11th? Most of the time, statistically would fall on a day no major college football is happening, keeping the eyes of the public solely on that game. Puts in the regular season, keeps it in the cold and draws more
Starting point is 00:39:19 attention to the Patriotism at all. If November 11th is on a Saturday or Sunday, which doesn't happen again until 2008, there would be an opportunity for the schools who always play on Saturdays to do Thursday and Friday games or schedule their by week, by weeks then. The other obvious but absolutely absurd dates would be Memorial Day or Armed Forces Day the week before in Hawaii. It satisfies none of the above criteria except USA, but would be very fun to have a football game in the middle of the off season and the troops deserve a trip to Hawaii. I agree with that. Lori, there's no way that the networks are giving up a full slate of college football in early November. It's not going to have.
Starting point is 00:39:57 But Lori and several other viewers slash listeners chimed in with the, the Veterans Day suggestion. So I appreciate the imagination and I appreciate the ideas and keep them coming. Because we talked about this situation. Our friend Seth Emerson from the athletic talked to Jeff Munkin, the Army coach who said they might be willing to play the game on Thanksgiving weekend. Michael Kelly, the athletic director at Navy, said absolutely not, not interested. I don't understand why they can't play at the week of Veterans Day on Monday night
Starting point is 00:40:27 and lead it into the Monday night football game. Because of, ooh, that's actually a great idea. that's actually a great idea is that not like an exclusive enough window because people are working on a weekday like I don't know but like yeah the probably because people were and remember lots of VIPs
Starting point is 00:40:44 go to this game so having it on a Saturday allows them to get there but that's not the worst idea yeah you could do it yeah Veterans Day at 5 o'clock in the afternoon Eastern time
Starting point is 00:41:03 because they always have it on the East Coast And then it leads into Monday night football. That's a good. It's not a bad idea. Like we're in the no bad idea space of college football. We're like in the mind meld area. Like this is a podcast. We're talking to the root just people being people.
Starting point is 00:41:21 You know, I don't know. There's so many other like things that come into play from a logistic standpoint that it makes it hard. If you don't have a floating date like or if it's a floating date like Veterans Day where it can land on any day of the week. No, but if you... One problem you have there is they're on CBS. So it's not actually a lead into money at football, which appears on ESPN and ABC. So I don't know that that works either.
Starting point is 00:41:47 If CBS had a property, I don't even know what CBS has on the main channel. Like you just put it in that window because you know more people will watch it. Right. Lead into... I don't know. I don't work at NBC, so I don't know how that works.
Starting point is 00:41:59 But like it... But there's got to be a solution here. for them to play it in the regular season at some point and still having an exclusive viewing window. Yeah, I think smart people will find a way. Like, if we use our imaginations, smart people can find a way. I can call my mom on a cell phone
Starting point is 00:42:22 and talk to her like face to face. We can figure it out. Exactly, exactly. All right. Next question. Final question comes from Jacob. Does Brandon Walker get a free Ari Wasserman, My White Ass, T-shirt? Brandon, send us your size.
Starting point is 00:42:44 You absolutely get a free one. You came up, like, anybody who gives us this much, like we've got to give Lori something too, because Lori's giving us a lot. Yeah, anybody who's helping us with show material, I think gets a T-shirt. People in my life have been saying my white ass to me a lot lately. So, you know, it's kind of catching on.
Starting point is 00:43:04 If you see Ari in public, I want you to yell as loud as you can. Ari Wasserman, my white ass. Ari Wasserman, my white ass. So like, but also defeated at the same time, the tone was perfect. Perfect comedic tone from him. Yes. So next time you say, because I've seen it in action myself, you know, when Ari and I are out and about, we're at games,
Starting point is 00:43:30 sometimes when we're just randomly eating at a restaurant, you know, the folks will come say hi. So by all means, when you see Ari, it is hello Ari Wasserman in my white ass. Ari Wasserman my white ass. Beautiful. Yeah, no, Brandon's more famous than me. So, I mean, I guess he's helping me out a little bit.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Well, and he deserves a free t-shirt. Yeah. Yeah. So we got to get T-shirts made. I got to get the t-shirts on the press. There's a lot of ideas here, and it's kind of bothering me. Yeah, Ari Wasserman of my white ass,
Starting point is 00:44:03 just be good. Just be good. Tamper better. Tampa better is a great one. Which, you know, this week was a point of conversation that we might have to hit on the show at some point next week.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Yeah, absolutely. I, you know, it's interesting because I don't always want to make this show about the rules because I feel like people tune out when it's about the rules. This one, though. The suggestion that they could suspend a coach for six games and then DACA team 20% of its football budget
Starting point is 00:44:32 if they take a transfer this spring when there's no transfer portal. That's a fun one. Never going to happen, by the way. It is a suggestion. It has to go through various levels of and layers of NCAA committees to be passed. If it did get passed,
Starting point is 00:44:54 it would be sued into oblivion immediately. But I'm here for the fun part. on the rules thing. I think people don't care about rules, but I think in this specific instance, they do. I think people care if their coach can miss a game. Yeah. I just think tampering in general is a hot button.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Oh, well, that wasn't the tan. This is the transfer thing. And the tampering thing, yes, that's also another one where they said they're going to, they're going to, this is the director of enforcement for the incidentally, I said, oh, we're going to have strict tampering penalties. Didn't say what they are.
Starting point is 00:45:27 And then said, we're going to have the ball state president in panel of task force to come up with an even better policy and penalty structure. Like, okay, great. Let's have a task force that can then make a committee and then a subcommittee. Sounds good. This is why they never, ever get anything done. Yeah. But, I mean, I do think that if there is a coach who gets caught or anybody on a staff who gets caught
Starting point is 00:45:56 reaching out to a player that's not in the portal during a time, are not supposed to be reaching out of them, that they should be penalized for that. Well, here's the thing, there's a little bit of mutually assured destruction here. If you penalize one coach for doing that, because listen, I'm telling you,
Starting point is 00:46:11 a lot of them are really dumb about it and don't cover their tracks really well. Yeah. I can tell you right now, there are four coaches you will not get. There are four head coaches you won't get. Davos Sweeney, because he's really new at this transfer portal stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Brian Newberry from Navy, Jeff Munkin from Army, Troy Calhoun from Air Force. If you just said, we know, can't take transfers. Wild Wild West has been an era of college football that we've been living in.
Starting point is 00:46:43 If they say as of August 29th, 2026, if you get caught campering after that date, or we submit, somebody submits a paper trail or a text message or a DM or any other way that you get caught or anybody in your staff gets caught, will deduct money from your
Starting point is 00:47:01 revenue share or suspend your coach or do something i don't know what the the actual thing is let's okay here let's let's let's let's say let's say pete golding where gets nailed for what dabbo whatever dabbo sent in because dabbo called out pete golding by name the old miss coach let's say pete golden gets nailed if i'm pete golding and i get in trouble. The first thing I'm going to say is, so what are you doing to Lane Kiffin, who was raiding my roster the entire time? But that, that works if you don't start at the date. You have a date that starts as of this date. So we're still in the intimacy period. Yeah, well, you can't, you can't go relitigate every case of tampering, like from behind. You have to start a date of
Starting point is 00:47:52 this enforcement committee is going to start really cracking down on this as of this date. So then if Lane gets I think most coaches would ignore it, but then maybe they get somebody. Maybe you get in trouble. Yeah. So if I'm Pete Golding, instead of reacting to
Starting point is 00:48:11 your players being tampered with by tampering with others, the next time your coach a coach tamper's with your players, you turn them in, that coach gets in trouble. Then I don't know, maybe it starts to,
Starting point is 00:48:24 I mean, I don't know, I'm just, again, this is Friday. My hair hasn't been done. Like, we're just spitballing here. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:29 I'm just imagining Jeff Monkin, the Army coach, sitting back going, think anybody you want, boys, I don't care. I mean, there's no honor among- I can't even take a transfer. No honor amongst thieves and everybody's a thief right now, but if you create a law that people start getting in trouble for, maybe it gets back to a more sane system where you can't do that. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Maybe I'm full of crap and it just can't. But, you know, if you say we're starting at this date, here's what gets you in trouble. If you do it and we catch you, we will penalize you or fine you, or restrict your finances, and then people ignore it and then start getting in trouble and they're able to enforce those rules, you'll see an improvement in it. Well, maybe. Maybe you've given them the magic bullet.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Maybe you've given them the idea. Because we're so tired of hearing about coaches complain about it. Like even Jed Fish said on the show the other day, tampering, if that's even a thing anymore. It's like, if you make it a thing, it'll be a thing. Well, right. As our friend Max Olson at ESPN likes to say, they like to reserve the right to tamper. True. But you make another good point, though. It is the coaches themselves complaining about it for the most part. Yeah, because it's cool. Maybe they stop complaining about it publicly and then we're relieved of that.
Starting point is 00:49:44 I actually think the more likely scenario is not they stop tampering because they're scared. It's they stop whining about it. And then we win either way. So it's hard. I don't know. Ari Wasserman, little tenor solving the world's problems. Take that, Brad, for making. Ari Wasserman, my white ass. I don't, you're the man with this, Andy. I don't know to, like, if you start stopping people from tampering, if there are other legal issues that will get moved over.
Starting point is 00:50:19 I think it's easier dealing with coaches because coaches do sign in their contracts, almost all of them, everyone I've ever seen, the coach agrees to follow the NCAA rules. But where it gets murky is if you nail a coach for tampering and getting a player out of the window, what happens to the player? Do they still get them? Like that that's the right. Well, they can't stop the player.
Starting point is 00:50:44 They can't stop the players from moving outside the window. So if I were a coach and like I could tamper and get Jeremiah, I love on my team, I would gladly take a two game suspension for that. Like I don't know. You take a six game suspension though, probably yes. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:56 I didn't have about what a national title. being suspended for six games, right? Yeah, and it was at different points of the year or two. It wasn't all that once. Could you pick, like Michigan tried to pick their own suspension games. He would have been glad. He really, he would have been glad to be suspended for the first half of that season.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Because remember how Michigan schedule went that year? Yeah. Real games didn't come until the end, and he missed those. Yeah, and coaches can't pick what game it is. Like when Michigan tried to self-impose, it's Sharon Moore penalty. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:25 And they successfully did that, by the way. They did. You know, he was, I believe it was supposed to miss the season opener this coming season. He's going to. He's going to, yeah. What a week. By the way, you have sent a lot of juicy games in for 2006. You have done your homework, and I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Monday, the juiciest games of 2006. We'll count them down. We'll talk to you Monday.

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