Andy & Ari On3 - Will Wade KNOWS WHAT'S UP in the NCAA Tournament

Episode Date: March 21, 2025

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Welcome to Annie and Ari on three. Happy day two of the NCAA tournament. I'm in paradise. Ari's in his version of paradise, which is Las Vegas, although it's probably hell at 30 in the morning Vegas time when the night ended poorly at the tables. But what's up Ari? How we doing? You know, I'm in love with you. I don't feel great, you know, right now, but we're going gonna power through it. Yesterday was the best day. Let me tell you what I have on the docket today, bud. After the show, I'm going upstairs, dropping my computer, I'm meeting my wife and another

few girls and their husbands at the spa. We're getting massages and we're going to the pool. We're having breakfast pool side, we got all of our beds in there. We're watching March madness all day, going to a nice dinner, then seeing David Spade and Nikki Glaser tonight and then flying back in the morning. Like, is that not the perfect day? Like that? Like, you know, I, I'm not trying, I just, I just feel good. Uh, that, that's on the, you know, horizon,

but I also feel terrible that I'm up at 550 today because of you. But I'm happy to be here. Because of me, because of your job, because of your paycheck. If I'm going to hold somebody responsible, it can't be my boss. Okay. I'm going to blame you, but you know what? If there's anybody I had to talk to about the fun of yesterday, and like honestly, this place is dead. You know, there's always that one like really sad individual playing blackjack by himself at 5.55 in the morning. It's like, what are you doing, man?

This is open 24 hours a day. Like go upstairs. That was you. Yeah, that's, you know, whenever you have to like take an early flight home, and there's always that one just like sad guy at the tables, like at five, 15 in the morning, it's like, I've never understood that. Like maybe his night is probably just ending.

I don't know, but it was a fun day yesterday. We have a lot to talk about. Um, everybody's saying Ari is too hung over to show his face. That might be true. I'm in the, uh, when business area that's not open. So I'm sitting at a table outside of it. And if you want to go on, am I the asshole ram right now? Explain to me how a high end hotel on the West Coast business center doesn't open till nine pacific time. Like, aren't there businessmen who stay here who like actually have real stuff to do?

Yeah, their wives aren't asleep in their rooms. Here's a rule of thumb when I am the President of the United States. Okay. If the stock market is open, your business center is open. Okay, look, is that fair to say? The stock market is open. River, write it down. New segment, weekly during the off season. President Ari, President Ari's rules.

We have to do this. So when Ari's elected president, first rule. If the stock market is open, your business center is open. Write it down. New segment. I love it. What a day yesterday was Ari. It was the basketball was not the upsets weren't huge.

You had McNeese over Clemson. You had Drake over Missouri. Those were two that kind of the public was on very early. You know, that's the one we said it the night the bracket came out. We're like, watch out for for McNeese and Clemson and it's Will Wade's alma mater. And there's all this stuff with Will Wade. And in between then he basically took the NC state job and then said, when asked about it on Wednesday, yeah, I've been in contact with NC state and said, I talked to my players about it and it didn't seem to hurt them.

It's funny watching the, you, you probably couldn't probably hear it in the sports book, but they had the pregame show and Kenny Smith and Charles Barkley are arguing about it. And Charles Barkley is like, he couldn't have just waited one more day. They, what this, this doesn't, this isn't going to work. They're going to get killed. And Kenny Smith's like, well, what if they win and Charles, they're not going to win. Oh no, they won. And I don't know that the players seemed like they were playing more passionately for Will Wade than ever before. Like they were, they were into it.

Yeah, well, the thing that I'll say, because I was in this frame of mind yesterday to like fade all the teams that people thought were going to upset good teams. So one of my biggest losses was Clemson and not just because of the the way that the game ended. I was on a free game but I did it three times live and I even got up to like seven to one at one point. It's like do they forget to play basketball? Like on ones like it like McNeese State looked like a better basketball team for three quarters of that game. Like, and it's just like the thing that you can never account for in March Madness. And it doesn't matter what your numbers say

or what algorithm you're using or what your, your gut tells you, you can never properly account for when a team is just going to forget how to play. Like every single shot that Clemson was shooting was just like not even missing. It was just like they were barely hitting the rim. I was like, they forgot how to play. Like every single shot that Clemson was shooting was just like not even missing. It was just like they were barely hitting the rim. I was like, they forgot how to play. McNeese played a zone that they'd never used all season. Yeah. And Clemson wasn't ready for it. Because because Will Wade said they put the zone in for the for the Southland Conference Tournament never ended up having to use it. And they threw it out there during the Clemson game. And Clemson was just completely you know flabbergasted by it at first and like there was an interview with Will Wade mid game where he goes yeah the junks working and that's it's really it's like in football if a team suddenly starts running the triple option in the middle of the first quarter and you've

never seen them run the triple option before and they run it for two series in a row and it's like what are we doing here? So McNeese or if your LSU's defense and somebody puts out a running quarterback. There you go exactly exactly. So I mean we there's always a college football comparison here but that is that is essentially what happened and it's why you knew that Clemson was gonna make a run. And that's where I was wondering, I was thinking about you the entire time, because you usually you told me your base, your base strategy, like the most basic version of your strategy on these days, the NCAA tournament is when a favorite

falls behind early, you hit it live as the odds get better for that favorite to come back and win or that favorite to make it close. And you knew Clemson was gonna make a run and you could kind of tell with about 10 minutes to go that it was coming and then fast and furious in the last two minutes. Like I was worrying it was gonna be like

that Northern Iowa, Texas A&M game from several years ago that I was at in Oklahoma City because it felt for a second like oh god if McNeese doesn't break this press here Clemson's gonna win this game. Yeah I mean it was very exciting like that's also also the point and why I love betting like favorites at like five six seven to one at times because they do make runs a lot of the time and it gets a super exciting. Now it's very depressing when it doesn't hit but there is no better feeling in the entire world when everybody in the sports book

is cheering for the underdog and like you're just sitting there quietly as you're getting your ass kicked. And then like the underdog blows it. You just, you like, yep. Cause I don't, I'm not a big cheerer. Although I was during the A&M game cause I was with some A&M people. And you know, my biggest, yep, because I don't, I'm not a big cheerer. Although I was during the A&M game because I was with some A&M people and,

you know, my biggest bet of the day was the A&M game and like A&M by the way. Incredible. They didn't even sweat once the entire game just kept it. They covered the spread and kept it from, from coast to coast. But yeah, I was doing my yell leader chance in in the casino yesterday. And I kept yelling, like when other people were around us, we're like on the other side, I was like, hey, I got a story to tell you, Ags. I was like doing the yell leader thing. Like, kick him out.

Old Rock the Good Ag came out. Every single time they scored, I was like, that's good bull. Every time they missed, I was like, that's bad bull, guys. You know, like, I was 100% ag yesterday. Well, your wife's an aggie. I'm sure she was cheering him on. My wife was in the shopping mall. So have you met her? Yeah, you met her, right?

Yeah, she was in the palace shops. That's OK. But all right, let's talk about what happened after the Clemson-Magnese game, because I thought that was really interesting. I ended up writing a column about it on three. Because the game has changed. And there's no better example of how drastically things

have changed in college sports over the past five years than Will Wade. Because I guess six years now, Will Wade was LSU's coach. He was the last good LSU basketball coach and he was a really good LSU basketball coach. He, while at LSU, he got caught on a federal wiretap talking about making a quote unquote strong ass offer to the handler of a player named Givante Smart

who wound up signing with LSU. The NCAA investigated and they found evidence that there were payments being made to players. And so, Will Wade ends up getting fired at LSU for free because of these NCAA violations. And the strong ass offer thing is the quiet part out loud. It's the sort of thing everybody says, everybody knows is going on.

He said it, didn't know anybody was listening, but the feds were listening. So flash forward to last night. I don't mean to make you hear Andy, but I still think it's absolutely hilarious that the feds were listening. Like when you think about just like ever watching any piece of media,

whether it be a show or a movie, like when the feds are listening, they're like trying to break up like multin movie, like when the feds are listening, they're like trying to break up like multinational like drop busts. Like they're just like listening to Will Wade talking about paying a 17 year old kid some money to come play basketball. Like how did the FI, I don't even understand how the FBI got involved to begin with. Well, they were whoever, whoever started that operation was moron, like wasted your tax dollars on this operation.

They were like, we're gonna get them. We're gonna show that the shoe companies are funneling money to the players to go to the schools that have those shoe deals. Well, no shit, Sherlock. Like, everybody knew that. You didn't prove anything. The thing I don't get though is,

what crime was being committed? If it wasn't a crime. Well, let me tell you. So people actually had to serve prison time over this. Like Jim Gatto, who was an Adidas executive, and then there was a wannabe agent, a wannabe financial advisor that had to serve some time. They said that these schools were being defrauded by these people because they had paid the players, which rendered them ineligible under the NCAA's rule.

So basically, they were saying Kansas was defrauded by Adidas because this guy worked for Adidas. Now how mad was Kansas at Adidas? They resigned with them for 12 more years. It sounds like they had to find the crime after they found the actions, not the crime. Correct, correct. And it's weird to me, Yeah. So, Will Wade was collateral

damage in this thing. Now, he was breaking NCAA rules at the time, but what was crazy is this thing stretched out so long, this investigation stretched out so long. He didn't actually get fired at LSU till 2022. By the time he got fired at LSU, all this stuff was within the rules. 2022 by the time he got fired at LSU all this stuff was within the rules and So McNeese State looks at that and goes Well, he's really good at making strong ass offers and getting the players to come you can do that now So let's just hire him and so they hire him. They're like, okay, whatever punishment he gets handed down We'll eat we'll take it. And so he gets a 10 game suspension his first season. He serves it.

He wins the Southland Conference. They go to the NCAA tournament last year and lose. He comes back, he wins the Southland Conference again. And now they have the first NCAA tournament win in school history. Now he's probably already taken the NC State job. Like those reports, no one has denied them, including Will Wade.

And when Will Wade was asked about NC State on Wednesday he's like yeah, I've been in contact with him and So let's go to last night a Clip from our friend Jeff Goodman and company at the field of 68 They had well wait on the show. He was in a in a hotel hallway very similar yours Here's what he said a lot of people obviously were talking about how is all the recent speculation about you and NC State going to affect your players? Would it throw them off? How did you handle this with your players as you led up to the game?

We talked about it. I mean, we were in practice when all that happened. You guys know, I mean, look, you interview for a job and then your attorneys deal with their attorneys. It's not like I'm talking to people every day. We were in practice at Brown and Mike Martin, who I've known since I was in the Ivy League, he came out in practice and said, what's up to me? He's like, hey, you know, you're trending on Twitter. What the hell am I trending on Twitter for? He's like, oh, they said you took the NC State job.

I was like, oh, and then I got back to my phone and had like 300 text messages. And so, I mean, look, that had nothing to do with them when we got that night. Um, let's sit down and talk to the team. We'd already talked on Saturday and be more honest. I mean, shoot, at the kids are recruited. Hey, look, the goals go power five after this year. And some of you guys can go with me and some of you get, you know, I mean, so we all know what's up and I mean, this was great for them.

They got, they're gonna have a lot of schools and their DMs tonight too. Looking to pick them up, pay them. So it's a good, good, good. Well, we can say, we all know what's up. So fill me in exactly what's up. No, I'm just saying, I mean, we all know, we all know the deal. I mean, the coaches tournament game. Here' up coaches, coaches, you

you know, when you went t when you get an opportuni they get a chance to move markets at work. That's A I'm happy for, I'm happy hey, we want to keep this a great thing going and s this going another week.

And so there's so many things he said there, like one, when I was recruiting these guys, they said the goal is to get to the power five and we may go together. And then he also says, people are sliding into their DMs giving them offers. And also it's the markets at work, it's America. It's so funny how all of this has changed

in the last six years. If he had said that six years ago, when he was LSU's coach, it would have blown up the internet, blown it up. People would have been like, how could you say that? How dare you? Now it's like, Oh, this is how these guys should always do this.

Are he's muted? He doesn't need it because they're playing like how long has this been going on? And I don't want to tell you know, I don't want to hear it. Are you it's fine. It wasn't a technical I will you couldn't hear it when my mic wasn't plugged in properly. So I thought maybe you't hear it, Ari. It's fine. It wasn't a technical... You couldn't hear it when my mic wasn't plugged in properly. So I thought maybe you could hear it now because I changed my mic. Thanks, River. Two technical issues. But I'll be the wet blanket for a minute. Okay? Because everything... I agree with what you're saying.

The question is if a person is blatantly breaking the rules, is that a character situation about other rules that will be broken? That's the thing that people like everyone knows. There are no rules now, Harry. Yeah. Yeah. What other rules would he break? I don't know. I didn't open up the NCAA handbook recently, but I'm assuming that there's some Hugh Freeze, uh, Rick Pitino bylaws in there somewhere. I don't know. There's always rules that you can break, right? Well, don't break those then. I mean, I'm assuming he still get fired for doing that. But here's the thing that everybody always says when it comes to this stuff. It's like, and I got a lot of this stuff too when I wanted to write about the Tatgate scandal after NIL and all this stuff.

It's like, what's the issue here? What you did or your willingness to break the rules like that? Like, it doesn't matter whether or not the rule is stupid now, you, you, you obscenely broke it. So that was my problem. My problem with Will Wade, the first time around was he didn't mount the civil disobedience defense. He struck me as the one who would be smart enough to do that. Like somebody who got caught paying players when you weren't allowed to pay players should have said, This is wrong. They should be paid. And I'm writing that wrong. I'm Robin Hood. Screw you guys. That's what they should have said. But they didn't do it.

That would have been like a movie. Nobody had the balls to do that. But that's what you should have done. Because the only people who were actually breaking a law were the schools and the NCAA. They were breaking the Sherman Act. They were breaking a federal law. The players taking the money weren't. Yeah, so then the second part to the unpacking of that is, what do we think about?

And maybe I don't even know if I'm upset about it. I just want to know what you think about it. The notion, and this is probably more of a college basketball situation than it is a football but though it could arise in football. I assume that like at places where smaller schools hire well-known people who are on career rehab but like the notion of like, yeah,

I'm recruiting players to McNeese and I'm like if I get a better job, some of you are coming with me. It's like that's like the whole anti the antithesis of what a lot of people want to see in terms of continuity with rosters and stuff. It's like, you know, I feel like the Lincoln Riley thing. And that's what it reminded me of is like, on one hand, it was like he'd left Oklahoma and Oklahoma fans were upset about it. But I think like Caleb Williams is the thing that really like got to people.

You know, like it's like not only are you taking another job, you're taking our assets with me. But that's not considered an upward move. Like Oklahoma to USC is considered parallel. Yeah, that's true. So like McNeese gets the first NCAA win and it's like they already got their, they're made whole on their end of the deal.

Yeah, yeah. And if you're in the Southland as a player and the next year you're playing in the ACC, that is very different than moving from Oklahoma to USC. This would be like moving from McNeese to Texas A&M Corpus Christi. And McNeese would be like, yeah, we get one year with a coach and ACC players and whatever happens, that's a good enough. That's a good enough result for us. Like even if, even if like they end up like whatever, they lose their next game. Like their season was already a success. They got the Amir Khan kid. By the way, that even the managers got in. I hope he does. How much ability does Amir Khan have because you imagine that human being in the ACC?

Well, here's the thing He doesn't matter. You just hire him. Okay. Yeah. All right, so let's let's go Yeah trip says Bruce Pearl got fired from Tennessee over an improper barbecue dinner. Come on This is a hundred times better. The NCAA archaic system was a joke. Trip, I don't mean to fact check you here. It was not a barbecue. It was a cookout. There's no barbecue served. There's burgers and hot dogs. Cookout. Oh, you're that person that's like, hey, we're coming over and barbecuing. And if somebody says that and they make hamburgers, like you're mad at them? Well, no, I mean, he's at the University of Tennessee. People should know the difference.

Like if you're, if you're living in Knoxville, Tennessee, you should know the difference. But if you live in Sheboygan, I don't really care if you don't know the difference. You're not supposed to know the difference. But if you refer to Mountain Dew as a Coke, then I don't think you have much understanding on here. Well, that'd be correct if I lived in Knoxville, Tennessee,

which I have lived in Knoxville, Tennessee before. But barbecuing is a word that implies your grilling thing. It is not. Barbecue's a noun, it's not a verb. And don't show me the dictionary. Merriman-Webster were Yankees, they don't know what the hell they're talking about. I don't even care what it says in the dictionary.

It's a reality, whether you want to live in it or not. No, no, barbecue's a noun, it's meat cooked, it's dead animal cooked, low and slow, that's it. So, now that we've cleared that up, and it was more than Aaron Kraft was at the cookout, and Bruce Pearl said he wasn't at the cookout, and Aaron Kraft was like, oh yeah, I was at the cookout.

So that was the, that wasn't really happening. So we'll bring Ohio State into this too. But, which is hilarious, because Aaron Kraft was like the, like straightest arrow a human being But the getting back to the will-wait thing like I this is what I'm wondering though when we see these because I covered a bunch of these over the years and you see the coach in the NCAA tournament and

They're at the smaller school, you know they're leaving. You know as soon as the run-ins they're leaving and it doesn't like, maybe you don't know where but you know they're leaving. He's just like, I'm leaving and we're gonna, and I told the players this, and we're gonna be mature about it and we're gonna play. But yeah, it's also too like,

I'm not gonna be a wet blanket anymore. It's also like teaching kids how stuff works in the world, right? Like it's like, you don't just have to coddle, you know, young men about leaving and stuff. If you talk to them, it's like, hey, you might get a job one day and you might perform really well in that job.

It might not be in basketball, but if you do that, then you have the opportunity to get a better job or increase your pay. Like that's the way the world works. And like, also, too, their success will also be rewarded. It's not like the coach is the only person here that has an opportunity to improve their situation. And then also, they're just playing basketball. Like, I don't know that they're gonna lose a game, because they feel like, you know, their coach is a backstabber. It's like, I think everybody knew the score. I've seen teams lose because their coach just bailed on them. I mean, I covered the-

But I'm saying approaching it this way is good. Right, right, right. And I also think- Being open about it, yeah. Yeah, and I also think this era is different. And that's what makes this era different, is the players now can be rewarded for it too. Whereas before, the coaches just leave.

And if you were an undergrad and you couldn't transfer and you had to sit out of here, like you couldn't be rewarded for it. So you were just stuck. But I remember covering the sugar bowl. And this is what I wanted to talk to you about because we see this in basketball. It feels like it's a little easier to do this in basketball

than maybe in football because football has a much larger organization, a bigger team, more staff. Like a lot of the time when you see the cloak and dagger stuff in football, it's because they're only taking like three of the assistant coaches and they don't want anybody else to know. But that's the thing I wonder about

because could you do this now? Like if you're Kurt Signetti leaving JMU, that's exactly what he did. Maybe this is what he did. Like, hey, some of you guys are going to come play for me in Indiana. A bunch of you guys are really good. You're going to go to the next, you know, up to the power conference level and get starting jobs. Like, that's probably how you should handle it and not be so weird and cloak and dagger about it. Because I

think it's I think it's definitely doable now, where you could just tell the team, hey, look, I've got some opportunities here. I'm probably gonna take one. And you guys should be looking out for yourselves too. Yeah, the thing that actually, when you said Kurt Signetti, I wasn't thinking about JMU.

I was thinking about Indiana. Like what if the same exact thing happened in Indiana, Kurt Signetti doesn't sign a extension and then he just takes a bigger job a year later and takes half of Indiana's returning roster with like that. Oh, you mean like the West Virginia coach just did for basketball when he went to Indiana that he was only there. Yeah, no, I'm saying it's gonna start happening. Yeah, it's gonna start happening so and you know what like it's just like the thing is is that It's an interesting dichotomy because we are in a position right now

Where we are hoping for? Collective bargaining in order to corral the ability to be so transient right like is that a fair statement most fans are yes And I don't want continuity right and I don't think it would be rock solid. I think it would be more like what you have with coaches, where there might be a buyout. Like a program like McNeese might be able to be financially rewarded when Will Wade goes to NC State and everybody raids McNeese's roster.

Yeah, the question that I have have more so than anything though, is like, do you even think that it's possible to corral the insane amount of movement from rosters and coaches? Like is it, or is it a cat so out of the bag that like, this is just over the sports? Yeah. The solution to everything's money Ari. Money is the solution to almost, not every problem. There's certain big picture life problems that you can't solve with money, but there are a hell of a lot of problems you can solve with money, and that's one of them.

If you put buyouts on a lot of these deals, and there's a lot of backup left guards that aren't really gonna be able to go anywhere. Yeah, that's true. So, because you have to decide if the person is worth it. But like, I'll give you a little... No one gives a crap about the backup of the guard. Everybody cares about the quarterback.

Well, the quarterback you have to pay for. So people have to decide if it's worth it. So, that's the thing. I suspect if they do this, it will not be as ironclad as people are hoping. It will be more like coaches, where there's probably a number number and if you hit it, you can get the person. Like college football might be more like the NFL where if you sign a contract, you are bound to that contract. You can threaten, I want to trade or I want to play and then maybe you can work something out with your agent financially to get that to happen. the program itself has the ultimate last decision to make in terms of where you're playing. You're either not playing or you're playing for us. Because that's how it is in the NFL, right?

Like so, like Miles Garrett just said, I want to trade. And then the Browns are just like, okay, you're not going anywhere. And then it was like a two week standoff. And then he signed a max deal because the Browns could have to control the situation. Like I wonder if it's gonna be like that. The difference in the NFL is the coaches can't do

what the coaches do in college. In the NFL, you can't be like that The difference in the NFL is the coaches can't do what the coach is doing college in the NFL You can't be like hey, just buy me out You're like if you're if you're Kevin O'Connell with the Vikings and and let's say that the Texans wanted to hire you They I know they're not they like to meet go Ryan's but let's hypothetically say the Texas wanted to hire him They can't just buy him out of his deal. Like he's he's there. So It's it is a crazy situation. They can't do that. Like if Mike Tomlin's like I want to go coach the Cardinals, he couldn't just go. No. Oh, because because the the NFL

owners have a a deal together and that that's what they've agreed upon. So now perhaps he could sue. I was gonna say like yeah. On antitrust grounds. But usually I think and a lot of times when the situation has soured even if a coach has years left on his deal they probably would make it work. Especially Mike Tom is a good example like if Mike Tom and went to the Steelers Went to the the family that runs the Steelers and said hey guys. I don't think it's working out anymore I'd like to go somewhere else. I won't go in the division. They would be like sure. Thanks for everything Go ahead

but I Just you don't see it that often the NFL because it's just not It's not how it goes. All we get to the next day, because we got 16 games today, we got a couple situations where the public, it's very similar to yesterday, where the public is on some potential seed upsets. Vegas says they're not even upsets at all, but very similar to yesterday.

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Underdog the seed underdog is gonna win So you have we talked about this one earlier when that when the bracket came out Colorado State is still a favorite against Memphis Colorado States a one and a half point favorite against Memphis. Colorado State's a one and a half point favorite against Memphis. I think they opened a two and a half point favorite. But also the team members talking about the beginning of the week saying they didn't deserve to be in the tournament because they made the first four. North Carolina is a one and a half point favorite against Ole Miss. North Carolina is going to the final four, right? Like, is that what's happening here?

I don't think so. I don't think it's going to be a first four to final four run. Like, we saw VCU do it, and we saw UCLA do it. But I don't think we're going to see that from this North Carolina team. They're pretty wildly inconsistent, which I guess those other two teams were pretty inconsistent to get stuck in the first four also, but I don't know.

I just feel like they're just not a consistent enough team because you have to win four games in a row to get to the final four against tough competition. Now, I feel like so much of this tournament is about narrative, though. It's just like, oh, yeah, McNeese's boombox boy is, oh yeah, they're they're playing with swag and they actually go out and win. Drake has a bunch of D two players, but they play great slow, consistent basketball and they won 33 games or whatever

they're going to win and they happen. It's like this is like a narrative sport. Like it is our bubble coming him. I would like write a check for his bonus and then like show everybody that's a down payment on his vacation home he's buying with

it. Like I would be like what to Matt like I thought I thought you're going to have him give it to like the the the boys and girls club of the West Virginia that no one can complain right that no one can complain about like everybody

that aw I got that. That's what you're saying. You're like no down payment on vacation. What the public of Huntingham should do is that he should write a check for $105,000 and give it to the West Virginia Morgantown Boys and Girls Club of America. No, what I would do is I would light it on fire in front of everybody on TV.

I would be so obnoxious about it. Like, yeah, you guys thought we put them in because of our bonus? Yeah, we're going to the Elite Eight. I wish he was allowed to bet like North Carolina final four run. I don't know. I'm I'm petty. I I know you would do that. President Ari would do that. President Ari. I'm betting North Carolina today. There's no chance they're not

winning this game. Well, hey, that'll make all the SEC haters happy. Dr. Locke's out here just giving everybody the... Well, look, that'll make the SEC haters happy too because they love when you know you had 14 SEC teams in the tournament. It's like, oh, Texas is out. Georgia got smoked by Gonzaga. Like, they're counting it up. They're ready. Missouri lost. This is one I can see the SEC team losing for sure. The thing about the SEC and all those teams, and I think you can make this case when any conference has a lot of teams in the tournament because the conference is strong in the non-conference

and some of the teams made it because they were kind of mediocre in a really strong conference. Well, if you're mediocre in a really strong conference, you show up and you're mediocre here, you're probably losing. So that's, you're gonna have that kind of cut out pretty quick. That's why when Texas lost to Xavier,

it was like, okay, whatever. But I think you're gonna see a few more of those from the SEC. Georgia, you know, Georgia had two good wins. They'd beaten St. John's and they'd beaten Florida But the rest of the season they were very mid and so was anybody surprised no, but I Think I think this I'm hoping we get a little more just kind of action today where Like I want some buzzer beaters. I want some late game heroics. We almost got

that in Clemson McNeese, but I'm ready for a shot that ends it. We got one in the Alabama State game, the Alabama State St. Francis game in the first four, but can we get another one today? I want one of those. So you're taking North Carolina. So you're going the opposite of what you were doing yesterday where you were taking the seed favorite that everybody thought was good. It did not work well. I'm going narrative now. That's today's. Yeah, I was like, I'm too cool to go along with the public and be around with everybody who thinks that these cool things

are gonna happen. I'm just to go with the cool stuff. Okay. Like yesterday sucked because like it was like, Oh, I was losing vets and everybody was like cheering for Amir Khan. It's like, I wish I was cheering for the boom box guy. I wanted to like him yesterday. The problem is if you're betting North Carolina in that game, nobody's going to be cheering for North Carolina is the plucky underdog in that game.

Andy, everybody just votes for their tickets here. Like it's like, yeah, that's true. Half that room explodes when you're when something happens. The other half explodes when the other team. Yeah. But yeah, like I follow Tyler Shoemaker on Twitter and he just sends me plays and he he unloaded the clip today, man. Like he's got 20 plays out here. We got women's basketball, we got men's basketball. Like it's gonna be an electric. You bet in IT games too.

Dude, I would bet on ax throwing if I could. Like what is it? If nobody has an angle on a game. I did like Asian ping pong one year. Like I was just like eating dominoes at 340 in the morning watching it. Streamed on some pixelated feed on my television. So during the pandemic?

During COVID, yeah. And how do you, like, here's my question. How do you even know that's not prerecorded? I don't know. Did it matter? You don't. People were betting on Madden simulations back then. Andy, here's the thing about COVID

that I don't know if a lot of people talk about. So at the time I was just, me and Britt were in a relationship, but I still was living in Ohio. I hadn't moved yet when COVID hit. And like when I lived in Ohio, and I've said this on the show, like my over my daily

or my my monthly expenses just to live for me where I was sleeping on a bed that I got 10 years ago and my couch was from Office Max, you know, like the normal bachelor life. Right. My monthly expenses were less than our property tax monthly now. Like, so like my life has changed quite a bit now and I think that happens when you have a family and get married and have dual income and stuff. But like during COVID when everything shut down there was no traveling, no going out, no eating out really. Like I had no expenses. Like I saved so much money like during that time and I know that it was a it was a terrible time financially for a lot of people because of uncertainty

with jobs and stuff. But like, if you're a single dude with a very simple life in that moment, you had extra income to like bet a little bit. Like we were still getting paid. We had to take pay cuts, right? If I remember that, like I can't remember, we had to take some pay cuts at the athletic

because like, you know, it was a startup company, and people weren't reading and cutting back because it weren't sports at the time. But like, that's like when the card thing happened. That's how like all this stuff happened during COVID when you're sitting at home, like getting interested in things that you weren't interested before. And like, if COVID never happened, I actually would have a lot more money now because I wouldn't have spent it all on keywords.

But, uh, yeah, it was just a very interesting time where it's like, well, I can't go outside and I can't go meet my friends at a bar. I can't do anything. Like, what am I going to do? Oh, there's Asian ping pong on. Okay. Let's hit it. And then like you're FaceTiming with your friends and you're watching the game.

Like that's, that's what my life was for a year. What were you doing during COVID? Like being a good dad? That's pretty much all I could do. I don't know how good of a dad I was, but we took a lot of walks. Now, I mean, we're in Florida. We shut down for like three weeks

and then we were back to normal. Oh yeah, yeah. COVID didn't happen in Florida. We just went back to work, went back to the grocery store, it was fine. What is not fine, Ari? We're gonna talk about the other big news from Thursday that did not involve the NCAA basketball tournament.

Former Michigan offensive coordinator Matt Weiss was indicted. And we knew this was coming because he was arrested, or not arrested, he was fired back in 2023. His stuff was seized back in 2023. His stuff was seized back in 2023. So he was indicted on Tuesday, 24 counts, alleging 14 counts of unauthorized access to computers, 10 counts of aggravated identity theft.

And so according to the indictment between 2015 and January, 2023, so this is time he's working for the Ravens and also time he's working for Michigan. Weiss gained unauthorized access to student athlete databases of more than 100 colleges and universities that were maintained by a third-party vendor. After gaining access, he downloaded a personal identifiable information medical data board of 150,000 athletes. He then used that in his internet research to gain access to social media, email or cloud storage accounts of more than 2000 athletes. And it said he targeted female athletes. Says he,

and basically once, once what this is the according to the justice department, once why I obtained access to these accounts, he downloaded personal intimate digital photographs and videos that were never intended to be shared beyond intimate partners. It's bad, bad, bad. But the craziest part about this is when this indictment comes out and we, you know, we report the news and we put it out there on social media, how many people came back and said, see, take the national title away. Look at, look, Michigan was cheating some more. I'm like, guys, the thing he's accused of is so much worse. Oh yeah, yeah. This is like, just, this is pervert stuff, right?

Like that, yeah, yeah. So, and that's kind of what the, I don't, I thought that the connection between this and like the cheating scandal was, it always felt wrong. I was like, yeah, this isn't what that is. Like this is something completely different. This is way different and way worse. So that, that's the thing. it always felt wrong. I was like, yeah, this isn't what that is. Like this is something completely different. This is way different and way worse. So that's the thing. Like I know people don't like Michigan, don't like Jim Harbaugh and want Michigan to suffer for whatever Connor Stallions did. part go with this and be like okay if Matt Weiss did this he should be locked

up like this has nothing to do with Michigan's football seasons this has everything to do with people's privacy and stuff that people never wanted anybody else to see and him basically robbing of them robbing them of their privacy and invading their their privacy like that is way different way worse yeah also too like if you are skilled enough with the computer to even do that privacy. Like that is way different, way worse. Yeah, also too. Like if you are skilled enough with the computer to even do that, like imagine how smart you could be like designing offense. It's like always the people that like have like when was he working is my question like when

was he working for the Ravens and working for the for the Wolverines? This seems like a full time job. Yeah, uh, unless you're yeah, I don't know. It's just like to for the Wolverines, this seems like a full-time job. Yeah, unless you're, yeah, I don't know. It's just like, to me, it's like a lot of times in this world, you see the most gifted people doing the craziest things. And it's like, if you would just focus your abilities on like good stuff instead of this type of stuff,

then you might've been able to accomplish something pretty great there. So yeah, it's just a sad, like, there's just no other way to put it. It's just a sad, disgusting situation. Yeah. And he's gonna pay for it. Yeah. And it's good that he does, you know? I hope so. If he did it, you know, lock him up. This is, this is, this is one of those things. I just wish we could adjust fandom a little bit. I appreciate fandom and I realize that it's why we have our jobs. The reason everybody loves this stuff so much is because they get so wrapped up in it. But the part where you hate your rivals so much that you assume the really terrible thing is actually just some garden variety football cheating,

like don't just let that go. Let that part go. Look at look at this news. Look at this indictment be like, that's awful. Hope he gets locked up. You don't need to take it any further than that. Think about it anymore. Just do it. He given what he deserves. And that's the end of it. But I'm not going to. I had, I had people, this is a stallions thing. Like just, yeah, this is completely different. I had people I mentioned is like, well, he's so good at computers. He was probably probably downloading background information on people from the

transfer portal. Mike. Okay. Was he doing that when he was with the Ravens? Cause they weren't taking transfers with the Ravens. Yeah. They had a personnel department. So I don't be's insane if it actually was what people think it was. If he was downloading Ohio State's practice film, that would be a, but it's not that. It's worse. Yeah, but that would be an insane Netflix series

that we'd be laughing and talking about. That would be the espionage that everybody in college football is actually paranoid of. Because I don't know if people realize this. We do in the media, because we talk to these and talking about. That would be like the espionage that everybody in college football is actually paranoid of. Because like, I don't know if people realize this, we do in the media because we talk to these coaches a lot. People are legitimately actually paranoid about espionage. Like that's not like a thing. I think their offices are bugged half the time. And I'm assuming that is disgusting is that it probably is a say out loud like Ohio State and Michigan's like practice films probably harder to access than Instagram pictures, right? Like that's

Well, I don't think it was that hard because I you notice that the one company remember before the Rose Bowl last year, when Michigan played Alabama, there was that story about Alabama said that they're only allowing practice film to be viewed in the facility, they weren't putting it in the cloud anymore. So I think they felt like it was vulnerable. But it's just, the thing about that is, that's 11 months after all this happened. You'd think if there was a vulnerability

that was identified in the investigation, that that would close up pretty quickly. Because the companies that host this stuff, the companies that host like Catapult, which hosts most of the cloud video data that the football programs use for their practice film, like they would go out of business if it were proven that they were that vulnerable.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. So yeah, disgusting, awful, feel terrible for the people whose privacy was invaded, and throw the book at him if he did it. Yeah, exactly. If he did it, lock him up and never let him have a computer again. Like it's go let him have a computer again. Like it's just set the phantom aside and be like, that's terrible, that's awful. Go to jail and don't worry about the other part of it. Because- Yeah, cause like where does phantom end?

It's like at a certain point, like when you're talking about something like this. Be a human. It's like in this case. Yeah. It's just like, like this is not football. He happened to work at a place that played football, but this is an individual thing. Yeah, like, yeah. Well, and I don't think, I think most of the people who are

saying that and assuming that, assume he worked for Michigan the entire time, and most of that time he's actually working for the Ravens. So again, it's probably what you think it is if you were just thinking about this like a normal person. Like if you took all the football part away from it and just described what this person got arrested for. This guy worked at Enterprise Rent-A-Car, for instance. Right. And did all the same stuff.

Yeah. You would assume, oh, he's doing purvey stuff. Well, safe assumption here, oh, he's doing pervy stuff. Well, safe assumption here too, it sounds like. So that's the part that, be more of a human on this one. Just, I get you don't like Michigan, you yell about Conor Stallion's all you want, put an asterisk on it, tell them to take away the title, they're not going to, but you can whine about that

if you want to. This one, if he did it, lock him up. We leave it at that. Another not pleasant topic, Ari. This one popped late Wednesday night. So Troy Taylor, the football coach at Stanford, got investigated twice by the school for the way he treats people

and apparently doesn't treat them very well. I believe one of the people who, this is according to the ESPN story, which had copies of the investigative documents, one of the people who was interviewed, who was an employee of Stanford football, called Troy Taylor, quote, an equal opportunity asshole, which was actually meant to defend him so ah Ari I have a I have a theory about why this is happening you want to hear my theory about why this is happening I'd love that I'd love to hear it yeah who who just announced last month that they were not going to work at Stanford anymore the names escaping me Just tell me what Bernard

Muir, the athletic director. Oh yeah, right, right. So you have these investigations. So Troy Taylor actually got investigated six months into the job. Like he got the job at the end of 2022 right after the 2022 season. He gets hired from Sacramento State. He's getting investigated by the summer of 2023. They closed that when they do another one later that ends in summer of last year. And they made him sign something and say he's going to learn from this. But this is leaked now because the AD who hired him is leaving. And so somebody

wants to gin up some outrage to get Troy Taylor fired now and probably get him fired for free because he's not very good. He's three and nine in two seasons. Each of the two seasons he's three and nine. They ran off David Shaw, one of the most respected coaches in the game for going four and eight. So at his worst, David Shaw was better than Troy Taylor. So that's what they're trying to do. They're trying to fire him for free. My question is this, Ari. We know how coaches act behind closed doors because we talk to other coaches. When somebody's up for a job,

we can give you a pretty good psychological profile of that person, like how they are to work for, what the mood is in the facility most days, how they treat people, where their strengths are, where their weaknesses are. And I think most people can't, like most people who cover the game, the assistant coaches who work in the game,

like everybody knows this stuff. If you are Stanford and you are replacing David Shaw, David Shaw, like I said, one of the most respected coaches in the game, someone who feels like they're always handling the situation perfectly, even when they're losing. How in the world do you go down to Sacramento State and hire a guy that everybody knew was a load to deal with? How do you do that? Well, maybe it's just like the overcorrection thing that the whole country always does with everything all the time.

We have to hire the opposite of what we just had. I mean, we do it with the president every four years, don't we? It's pretty true. It's pretty true. Although I think in this case. Politics. I think it, well, President Ari's

going to change all that. But I think in this case. The business center's still not open. Well, because nobody wants to do any business right now, Ari. I think in this particular case, it was because Stanford was not going to be a big player in the NIL space. And I don't think a lot of coaches wanted the job. And I think that you can say, Oh, well, you know, we were a pretty dominant program in the Pac-12 for a lot of the 2000 teens. And it's true. But they aren't, when this job was open, they were not set up to succeed in this era.

So that's probably why they had to hire who they hired. But I just don't get it. And now if you're Troy Taylor in Stanford offers you a bunch of money, that's great. But he may fumble this bag. How after the first investigation do you not be like, OK, I'm going to be on my P's and Q's here because even if this doesn't work out,

I'm still getting millions of dollars. Like if I lose, I'm still getting millions of dollars because getting fired for being a bad football coach, you still get paid. How do you have an investigation wrap up that finds you don't treat people well and then you immediately go back to mistreating people so badly that they have to do another investigation Yeah, I was on March Madness Island yesterday But are there any details of like what that means because like bullying is such an odd like it's Well, it they the accusations are that he treats women Worse but treats everybody poorly Those are the accusations like I said that, that equal opportunity a-hole quote

is actually meant to defend him. Okay, but like being an asshole is not the same thing as bullying. It is not. Well, but is it Stanford? Like it isn't an Ole Miss, but it is at Stanford. And I think it's also, that was my other question about this.

Like, you knew what job you were taking. Like, you weren't taking the LSU job. You weren't going to a place where as long as you're winning, they'll defend the football coach to the death. Like, you're going to Stanford. You could be winning and you treat people a certain way and they're still gonna get rid of you.

So, like this, and I'm assuming this leaks now, that somebody at Stanford leaked this because they want to get him fired and they want to fire him for free. If that happens, this could be one of the biggest bag fumbles of all time. Yeah. I mean, it's just like, I feel like this if the thing is he's he's mean to people, then he's going to have a good chance of making sure he gets paid. Like, I don't know if they're going to get Scott free on this. This isn't unless there's some actual actions. Right. They're going to have to have behavior. They're going to have to have you know, I've worked for assholes in my life too, you know, like, you know, it's just as well. So you work with one on this show. Yeah, you get mad at me sometimes people don't I was talking about River not me. Oh, wait. Oh, yeah,

that's me. My bad. So, but yeah, I it's, but any you imagine if you were in the car, the day I dropped that piece on the microphone and you saw it? I would have probably- Do you think you would have strangled me? I would not have strangled you because I understand, because I understand that that would cost me my job and they could fire me for free.

I would go right up to the point where I couldn't get fired for free. Okay, so you would be an asshole. I would go right up to the point where I couldn't get fired for free. OK, so you would be an asshole. I would. But you wouldn't bully me. But Ari, if that happened after I had been investigated for being an asshole. And found to be an asshole. I would have been a little more careful about how I responded to that. I would have been a little more careful about how I responded to that.

Yeah, you can be an asshole and smart at the same time. The world is full of smart assholes. I know. But they're not in that business center over there. I'll tell you that right now. They're not over there in that business center. But this is what I'm worried about with the Stanford situation. I'm not sure we have a smart one here. Yeah.

Which leads me to another question. Like if he's not a smart one, you're Stanford. What were you doing? Like hire a smart person? Yeah, yeah. Uh, it just it's yeah. Ever since Shaw started hitting the downturn there, it's just kind of not come back. Yeah, and they're not, now they've got Andrew Luck as their GM, and I don't know if that means anything. It only means something if they can raise some money to pay some players, but I don't know if they're set up

for success, which may change how you do the hiring at that job. And you may have to- I've always thought, and I don't want to go into a 25 minute discussion, but I've always thought that Stanford should be better than it has been. Even when they were good, I always thought that should be all the time. They were really good when they were- well, here's the thing. The thing they offer, and this is where a lot of schools use this during the era when

you couldn't pay players, but Stanford can actually say this more than anybody else in major college football. The education that Stanford offers, which is free because you have a football scholarship, is more valuable than almost everybody else's, like demonstrably more valuable. So they should get a discount. That's what I know to a certain extent, yeah. Exactly, they should get a discount. Now, will they? No, and the thing about it is, the players who are also really good

and can get into Stanford, everyone else wants them too. And everyone else is throwing stuff at them. So look, a Michigan education is great. A Northwestern education is great. A Duke education is great. An Ohio State education is great. So when you have that one, they're not quite Stanford, but they can offer you more money, you're probably going to take that. But I still think, and I've said this to my kids, I'm like, if Stanford offers you a scholarship for anything, you're taking it.

Like, we're not even talking about it. I will book the first flight to Palo Alto for you. Yeah. The thing is that when I say Stanford should be better than they are, or consistently good, is I don't mean consistently winning the national championship, but they should be able to get the best second tier players that are in that mode.

Maybe not 100% or all of the top tier players that want to go to the best universities in the country that play football. Like, I feel like if I were a five-star player who cared about education, I would probably be more considerate of like a Michigan, for instance, right? They've got a great school, but also are playing at a high level. Yeah. The thing that I've never understood is that I feel like Stanford and Northwestern have used their educational standards and Duke to a certain extent in football as a as an excuse rather than as a rather than as a right as a benefit. Right. I feel like I feel like if they used it the right way, and I don't know, maybe I'm just wrong about this. Maybe I'm just like Vanderbilt, like is another one. Maybe I'm just off. But if you weaponize the education and you use your recruiting board to go after the best, most impressive students who are also good at football only.

You shrink your board and you go after, maybe that's what they're doing. I don't know, but get the best class of those kids that want to stay in school and get their education are also really good at football. And you would have the most veteran team a lot of the years because people stay or tend to stay to finish those degrees. Yeah. But you shouldn't be, you shouldn't be bad. But that is what Stanford did. That is what Stanford did in the Harbaugh era

and what they did in the beginning of the David Shaw era. That is why they got so good. And you notice who were some of the best of their players? Offensive linemen. Like they were getting top five offensive line recruits in the country because let's face it offensive lineman are don't know. When you look at tape, if you're a really good left tackle, you could play on Bowling Green or you could play on Alabama. Oh yeah. And you're going to shine through.

Yeah. Central Michigan produced the number one overall NFL draft pick at left tackle because the film doesn't lie. So you're right. It is less about who you're playing around in that situation. You're a receiver, like you're dependent on others. Yes, the line has to block, the quarterback has to deliver it. Correct. Any offensive skill is also beholden to scheme in play call. Yeah. Whereas the left tackle is just every day mashing somebody, or every play mashing somebody and whether it's a run or a pass, that film is going to be a great story.

Yeah, everybody knows it if you're doing it. So it's like even in a corner, like if you're a really good corner, they don't even throw you that much, so you don't have as much film. And maybe NFL GMs know that. But left tackle, I think, is the purest position that you can play to show what you are on a player play basis. Yeah, I think defense, interior defensive line is the same thing, where if they're double teaming

you and you're still wrecking stuff, like Aaron Donald at Pittsburgh was completely unstoppable and everybody knew it. And it didn't matter who was playing around him. Like he was just awesome. So I think you're right about that. But I don't know that Stanford can weaponize the education now as much because smart people make calculations and if they calculate that the degree that they're offered at a school that is better at football that has more NIL money is say you know equivalent to 85 percent of a Stanford

degree but there's this money here they're doing the time value of money calculation on the money here and they're going to probably come out and say, you know what? I probably will take the Michigan offer. So that's the that's the issue now and maybe that changes revenue share, but I think that's probably what's going on here is they're trying to fire this guy for free. That's why they leaked this. Remember, this is a private school. They don't have to release anything. So all of a sudden ESPN gets his hands on two investigations. Like that is clearly somebody trying to make sure he gets fired for free. And yeah, this is something to track too. So we'll keep watching it, but it's like a

little bit different than the Northwestern stuff. But because that was player driven. But like, yeah, or more details will come out of the actual problematic behavior and then you'll be like, oh, well, that's different. Or they'll cut him a check and and and it won't be the full amount of the buyout, but it'll be enough to to say, you know what? We're gonna wash our hands of all this. We will find out. Ari, I'm gonna let you go to brunch. Yes. Have fun in Vegas. As you were doing it, I put in like 30 bets. I'm like I'm on like 20 women's basketball unders today. That was me yesterday. That's just a man living the dream. You know, that's a milkshake. So we got this table at Charlie's Sports Bar at the

Wynn and it is an open air sports bar. But if you look through the open air area, you're looking at the sports book. So you have TVs in every direction and it was all you could eat, all you could drink. And it was a pretty expensive afternoon and I still feel like we got our money's worth. So if there was a milkshake, it was all inclusive in Vegas. Can you believe it? They're like, what would you like to have to eat today?

And I was like, all of it. You know, I think on the first day of the NCAA tournament, all inclusive is probably the way to go. It's probably not day to day, but on the first day of the NCAA tournament, yes. And on day two, which is just day one, a little bit extra Lipscomb

They're playing today against Iowa State 14 and a half point dogs our guy Jack Terry Former former Lipscomb player Also admit it. You don't know the mascot. We did. We played the game. I'm struggling. I'm trying to remember the mascot. I was trying. Um, you killed me there. The Bisons. A lot of Bisons in that level. I wouldn't have said anything if you didn't beat me in the in the logo thing. But I have Bisons in that in Nashville. That doesn't feel like a doesn't feel like a native animal. That's all right. I don't know. I do know that the Baylor Bears in the Mississippi State Bulldogs are the first teams to

play today. So enjoy everybody. Oh, come on.