Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - Band Change, Starting Over, and some Sports with Andy Frasco and Nick

Episode Date: July 8, 2026

Andy Frasco and Nick Gerlach are back with another unfiltered conversation covering life on the road, band dynamics, burnout, and everything happening in the jam scene. Andy opens up about major chang...es within his band, learning to communicate with new members, and the challenges of balancing friendship with business. Nick shares stories from working the door at Denver's Yacht Club, the surprising joys of having a "normal" job for a week, and some unforgettable late-night encounters. The two also dive into the latest news surrounding Umphrey's McGee, debate World Cup fan bases, discuss moving to New York, the realities of touring finances, and why social media can be both a blessing and a curse for musicians. Plus, hear wild stories from the road, thoughts on LeBron's future, and why sometimes change—even when it's difficult—is exactly what you need. It's honest, hilarious, and packed with the kind of backstage conversations you won't hear anywhere else.  #AndyFrasco #JamBands #Podcast #WorldSavingPodcast #MusicPodcast

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And we're live. Andy Frasco's world-saving podcast. It's been a while. Nick. Who's that song by? Sounds like Creed or something. It does, but I don't think it is. Hold on my computer.
Starting point is 00:00:15 It's been a while. We're on location. How you doing, Nick? It's a band of Stained. They named it after the front of your boxers. I'm doing great. Oh, yeah. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Nick, I haven't talked to in a long time. I feel like I'm on like a sabbatical of something of the pocket. I feel like I just like to give you your space on the road. I know you're going nuts out there and everybody's. You got 900 dues. Oh, man. It's a heavy one this trip. You're like promise.
Starting point is 00:00:45 When you, when one thing, it's like a domino effect, you know, like, uh, if one thing leaves, it's like this ripple effect, you know, like, because since me and Sean broke up, it feels like it's a funny way to put it but it's kind of it's kind of right that it's a good way to play it actually
Starting point is 00:01:06 it's like the universe telling you that you need to have new change everywhere if you're going to have if we're going to open up to this idea of changing then you got to be acceptable to be changing
Starting point is 00:01:16 in other places too change can be good yeah it's so much it's so much weirder now the tour bus used to be party time now it's cereal
Starting point is 00:01:26 and fucking Nintendo switched yeah I heard about the cereal. Dude. My cancer. You went right to do that. I wasn't going to name names.
Starting point is 00:01:37 He has like six different types of cereals. I'm like, damn. Are they healthy or is eating like cinnamon? Yeah, I'm like, no, it's like he goes back and forth between like the kashi and then like the fucking
Starting point is 00:01:49 diabetes cereal. What's your favorite cereal? I don't know. I can't really eat anymore because I had like 100,000 cavities. But I got into, I got into, You spend 300 bucks a month to get hydrated.
Starting point is 00:02:05 You spend 300 bucks a month on IVs, but you're not going to the dentist. Bro, you sing. That's my wook in me. I can try to stay healthy, but my wook side still fucking gets the cavities. I've really been on my dentist shit the last three years. You ever ever feel just unmotivated? Yeah. From like 14 to 22.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Sometimes when you work in so hard, You just don't want to work anymore. Yeah, but I think it's like a cycle. Oh, yeah. I know. I'm just going through that another cycle of that. And it happened. This is the problem of having too much time off.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Yeah. I didn't really tour that much this year. So I'm kind of trying to get into the cycle of just like working again. Yeah, I know what you mean. Even though I have to work in, I've just been like not, I've been working on everything else. But I guess it's not true. I made a record. I made two albums.
Starting point is 00:03:01 I'm just burnt out. It's probably a combination of both because, like, I mean, you are working, but touring and making an album are two completely different muscles. No, no. You know what I'm saying? I would argue making an album's a lot more fun in some ways. I think so.
Starting point is 00:03:18 But there's way less instant gratification. Also, with albums, there's, like, sometimes no gratification. Oh, yeah. Some of these songs have been put down, it's just like crickets. I'm like, fuck. It's so hard right now. Like I've been saying,
Starting point is 00:03:31 there's too many bands. Yeah, you're right. And also, like, no one's like, I don't know, the idea of people looking for new music is kind of, from an older, from an older band is, uh, it's harder, you know, because like, I'll play some stuff live and some new songs live, and it does all right. I mean, people are like, but they're hearing it for the first time.
Starting point is 00:03:55 They're not like, it's not like they've been listening to it for a couple months. They don't know the word, they don't know the words yet. They didn't even know I put it out. Yeah. Oh, that's true. Yeah. There's just, there's just so much shit out there right now. I think people are fatigued from social media.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I think people are just fatigued by life. Yeah. I think so, too. But that's why I like... Are you fatigued by life too? Is it just something in the water? No, you know what? I kind of had like a really good time last month.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I told you about this, right? I worked at the door at Yacht Club for like five days. And it was kind of like... No, yeah. I didn't, okay, I didn't tell you about this. So Steve, they have that regular door guy, Steve, on the weekends, and he had to go on some family trip. And Anna hit me up. She's the manager at Yacht Club for people who don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:39 And she's like, yo, we're kind of screwed. Do you want to come work the door for five days? And I was like, you know what? Yes. And it actually paid decent. And it was like, it was kind of nice. Not, I actually had this weird anxiety before I went in because I'm so used to whenever I have a gig or like trivia or I have to like prepare for three hours for whatever I'm doing that night. Yeah, same.
Starting point is 00:04:59 It was, same. It was kind of nice. Yeah, exactly. It's the same thing. It was kind of nice, but it took me a couple days to get used to it to, like, have a gig where you're just going. And, like, you don't have to, it starts at four, and you don't start until four. Yeah. And it was, and it was kind of nice just, like, dumping out the cigarettes and taking the trash out, just being like a person for a day.
Starting point is 00:05:18 And it was, yeah, you know, that's a, we're hot. It felt good. It felt good. You're just like, I don't want to say a regular person. I know, because that's, like, sounds pretentious. But, you know, you know. know what I mean, right? Like, uh, like, our jobs are, we work for normally two hours a day or three hours a day, you know.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Or, or 20, or 24 hours a day. Yeah. Because you're like always kind of working. Routine. Yeah, there's no check in your email when you're working the door. There's no like, oh God, all my charts on my iPad. It's my iPad charged. Am I?
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yeah. Is the drummer going to be on time? It's like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it was just nice to like, just be a human being for 10 hours. You, me think about you running. the door. Someone's like causing riffraff. Hey!
Starting point is 00:06:02 Come in down in there! Oh, here's a good story. I had a classic Nickline. This couple was coming in the last night I worked. And she was like stumbling around and she obviously shouldn't come in. And I was like, hey, uh, do you think you should come in this bar right now? She goes, no. And her boyfriend goes, well, she's not good.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Are you getting a phone call? Yeah, my man. Her boyfriend goes. Hey, hey, Mac. Let me call you back. Bye. All right. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:06:29 So I go, you think you should come to this bar right now? She's too drunk to come in. And it was a couple. And her boyfriend goes, well, she's not going to drink anything. And I go, so you're going to come in there and be drunk and not spend any money? Get the hell out of here. Oh, my God. It's classic.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Like, I just lawyered their ass. And so I was like, so you're going to be drunk and you're not going to buy anything? This is a place of business, bitch. You kind of have some, like, Jedi mind tricks to, like, be a bouncer. Because, like, you don't want to fight. No, and you can be mean. And you can't be, you can't punch. And you can't be mean, you know what's fun?
Starting point is 00:07:03 It's fun seeing how old everybody is. Oh. I never thought about that. Everybody, everybody is three to four years older than you think they are in this town. Wow. It's the opposite in Indiana. And, of course, it's fucking dead for everyone's lost boys. Like everyone's partying for fucking.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Also, prime, if you're in the mills, go to a yacht club from four to eight. It is prime milfowers in that bitch. I gotta start going there at 4 days. Some of the hottest 50-year-old women you've ever seen in your life. Just gorgeous women. Dude, that's so funny. They all got job. They're all driving like BMWs and like, and they're like looking for their second husband.
Starting point is 00:07:43 And I'm like, damn. Maybe it's not so bad getting older as long as you just aren't poor. No, it's so crazy. I think people are aging better lately. They are. I mean, we just have better food than ever. It feels like when you're young. Oh, so you think they're younger, but they're actually older.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Like, that means they're, like, looking better. No, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's the opposite of Indiana. Everybody in Indiana has, like, when I used, I did it a couple times at the mousetrap, and it's like, 10 years younger than you think they are, because they're all meth and they had four kids when they were 23. You know what I mean? People in Denver are just like a little more responsible.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Denver, like, ketamine is the youth drug of, Auguste. Who's the guy at Servantes? Who's the guy looking for the fountain of youth, not Sorvantes? Fountain of Youth Damn, you, you clip, I can hear you laughing on your fucking laptop. Sorry, Pasta Leone.
Starting point is 00:08:40 You know, he was looking for the Fountain All the Youth in Florida. That's how he discovered, like, America. Like, he just came to Denver and duncanamine and had a cocktail. Just got a Mess Cal soda. A Yacht Club, apparently, it'll fucking make you four years younger. Yeah, the Mest Kausau and the Cougar Happy Hour will make you, you, You'll make you even younger. But yeah, it was just cool to have like an hourly wage job for, I mean, I wouldn't want to do it for the rest of my life.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I would, but like, you know, it gets a little monotonous. And I'll tell you the worst thing about it is your track. You know me. I like to pace around and wander. You know me, right? Oh, yeah. You can't do that. Even at parties, you know, I'm just like, I can't talk to one person more.
Starting point is 00:09:19 The worst is those drunk guys. How many cigarettes did you smoke? Sitting there. I did pretty good. I only had like two or three a night. Because it gets kind of, because I'm not drinking. Oh yeah, you can't be, it's not a party No, I'm not party
Starting point is 00:09:32 I'm watching everybody else party But the worst is like the right around 12 It was fun The worst is right around 1230 is like The drunk guy that is kind of there by himself And he just wants to talk to the bouncer for an hour Yeah One guy was like, yeah
Starting point is 00:09:46 There's always that one, yeah Hey man This one guy was like I was like yeah you're gonna get in there and have a drink He's like you don't want to talk to me huh? I was like not really Oh, blunt neck. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:00 So besides that, I just been expanding trivia. Oh, yeah, you're franchising trivia, too, huh? I'm a wingman now. That's good. You're a company man. Oh, shit. So what's new with you? Tell me about tour. Hey, guys, we have breaking news that Joe just texted the group chat that Jake is leaving Humphreys. Oh, I saw that. Oh. They just announced it like 10 minutes ago. Thoughts?
Starting point is 00:10:28 Jake is leaving Humphreys. Oh, that's probably for the better. Probably for the better. I think it's for the better. I mean, you know, I've known those guys for 15 years. I play with them a ton. I think Jake's like one of the best guitar players I've ever met in my life. I also think Brendan's one of the best guitar players I've ever met in my life. I do think the band's playing great without him. I think they're great with him. And I, you know, I hope whatever's going on with him, he figures out. It seems like they said in their message, like something. That was the most.
Starting point is 00:10:53 middle that was the most Switzerland ass fucking they sound good with Brandon but they all sound good with Jake they do I just don't like this shit online where people are like they don't need Jake like people think they do
Starting point is 00:11:07 yeah I don't know I think you know what they've been together over 30 years I don't know yeah since like 1948 I think right for World War II they started but uh they got they started during the
Starting point is 00:11:21 Vietnam War I don't think it's like a big surprise, right? Everyone kind of saw this coming. Yeah. I don't know. I just think it's, I don't know. I can't say much. I can't either.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I'm too close to the source. Exactly. But I think, you know, when people are in a band together for that long, you know, sometimes it's just hard to like. Change is good sometimes, like we said, like we said earlier. We got to freshen it up every now and then, even though it's hard to, you know, it's like, it's like, everyone's got to enjoy the stuff off the stage too, you know?
Starting point is 00:12:00 I mean, they didn't have it in Mexico and they fucking ripped for nine hours. Yeah. They ripped so hard that they said, Frasco, you don't even get the play. I forgot about that. You can... I still think about that.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I'm like, bro, do you guys play five hours every day? And you still said, eh, we're okay with your set, Frasco. I'm like, this motherfucker. I got to stop. I gotta stop sucking their dick on this podcast. You can do that, yeah, fuck it, man. They are good at, man.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Disco biscuits could take a couple notes from them on how to get rid of a band member. You know what? That's fucking did that to me. The fuck. I'm being little brothered everywhere. In Northlands, I'm like, we had to start a little late. Disco Biscuits are like, I'm texting. Yeah, New Hampshire. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:44 And I was like, yeah, yo, we started like 20 minutes late because of the rain. And so I texted Magner. Yo, you guys are playing two sets, like four hours. hours of y'all that's a lot so what can you cool can i just do my extra 20 and like going to your set they're like mag you're like i don't know man we got to talk to the big man i'm like magner you know what i love you but i'm still gonna do it anyway so i so i so i hit up i should have hit up i hit up i should have hit a barber first because i hit a barber after that i'm like why's magner being like this and then so i hit up barber and barb's like you can play as long as you want i'm like i should
Starting point is 00:13:22 just hits you up first. You're the one who actually makes the... Barber's like, I don't care. You're the one who actually makes them fucking... He's like, we get paid the same, right? Like, as long as it doesn't matter when we start. It's like, yeah. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah, what the hell? I'm getting big brother and everyone. I'm like, okay, good and no. Next time you want me to interview, uh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:38 You're a breakup and stuff. Yeah. You want a puff piece. Yeah. No more puff piece, bitch. There's no pop. No more puff piece on the World Save podcast. I will colonize your set at Northlands if I feel like it. Yes. but yeah um sorry to hear about jake i mean you know i don't know i'm going through breakups in my band so
Starting point is 00:14:00 yeah i feel for it it's uh it's not all about you know sometimes we gotta it's not about the fans it's about um just friendship and wanting to keep a brotherhood alive and if it's not doing music you still want to keep that brotherhood of you guys being together so if it's safe if it's more sane to uh do play different music then do that and sometimes we've got to not think about the fans and think of ourselves like i think everyone's so worried about what are the fans gonna think what is this i'm like oh fuck it what are the fans gonna think if the band isn't getting along and they're playing like shit because like they're in a fight or so i don't know i don't know yeah or just what if they're just what if they're just you know it's all different variables it's like everyone is so obsessive about you know This is like a fan culture when like they, if it's their favorite band,
Starting point is 00:14:55 you should think about their feelings too, you know? Of course. And it's like, there are no band plays better than a band that's truly getting along with each other. Oh, I feel now. This is the best,
Starting point is 00:15:04 this band I'm playing with right now. This is the best musical experience I've ever been in my fucking life, bro. Yeah. Ganser, I'm taking the Ganser's been a good ad besides the cereal. Gancer's been a great ad. You know,
Starting point is 00:15:16 we've been having fill-ins for Floyd and it's been great. You know, it's like, yeah? So like now I know when Floyd can't make it I could fucking I feel comfortable No disrespect to Richie Richie was great Or just the other people
Starting point is 00:15:28 But like I got Nick Chamey Who's helping me You know And I've known him since I was 12 years old So like I know when we're fucking When he's acting like a little ho Or I'm acting like a little ho He'll call me out
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Starting point is 00:17:36 sometimes I'd bark on stage. I'll be like, ah, you guys aren't giving it at all. And I'll say it on the microphone. Right, right, right. Really? I've never heard you do that, actually. I'm like, I said this one time in Nantucky because the crowd was kind of kind of, you know, the crowds in these, like, um, resort towns sometimes are just like,
Starting point is 00:17:55 just want to hear party songs or like, you know, so like, it's hard to wrangle them in. So I was just not, I was not in the mood. I was like, you know, I just, you know, Nantuck would always, I party hard. And then I go out to play. And so I was just like, just not, I was trying to throw all my fucking curve balls and my fastball and nothing was fucking registering. And then I looked at the band And I was like, oh yeah, maybe they're being lack of day zeal too.
Starting point is 00:18:24 So I started looking at them. Then I said, I need eight, you guys are giving me 80%. It's such a specific number. I need 100% all the time. You said that all the mic? I said on the mic. So I thought it was funny. Because I normally say that, normally Sean would just hold his breath and just like want to kick my ass.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Yeah, yeah. Mike, right after the stage, didn't do anything. Calm cool, guy of stage, came up to me right way. Hey, I didn't appreciate that. I'm like, oh, we could have a communication about this without holding it in and festering. And it kind of taught me out and matured me of like saying, yeah, let's just communicate more of what we need. And like, also, I got to get out of my head of old habits of revving up the band. When I had a band that was like needed that to fucking wrap up versus music school dudes.
Starting point is 00:19:18 who are a little more sensitive and, you know, so I have to I have to approach my dialogue with things you know, differently with every people. And it's, I think that's one thing I've learned or I guess I could clap to. You got a sports car now and you need to put that premium gas in it.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Who else is someone calling you now? Oh, yeah. Scam likely. But I don't know. I'm just trying to grow trying to keep this thing going, but also try to be true to myself, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:52 It's like this heart balance of having new guys. I think every band that has a new band members is like, you start losing the identity of how you started this thing, but it's also you got to realize it's a business. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a new girlfriend. Yeah, you're learning how to make love with each other. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:15 But the answer does rip at guitar, man. it's so good and like I appreciated the conversation because a lot of people are just mad at me a lot of people in this band just get mad at me and just hold it in because they're scared to talk to me and I can't live with that and then until they blow up or they vemo me
Starting point is 00:20:33 yeah like until you hit that vet maybe it's not such a bad guy after all oh yeah I forgot rent paid um you know it's a hard living in a fucking coffee
Starting point is 00:20:47 can. That's what I know. We live in a can and like and like we're getting less and less of the people who party out of the band so now it's like it's three force people who don't party but you don't want zero partiers
Starting point is 00:21:03 either. There's like a balance to it right? There's like yeah it's good we still got beats you still got beats those fucking wild dogs I still have those guys that's fine God. dude sometimes beats gets on a fuck i'm like
Starting point is 00:21:21 oh i've been there i've seen him i've seen i've seen it too i'm like beats you need to calm the fuck down boy can sing though i mean you know this whole state's on fire that's how some people take their anxiety out sean too i think you know it's like yeah it's an interesting way that that fucking come down or the non come down yeah exactly yeah to you know, calm that art, just keep it going.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I mean, it's such an adrenaline thing to play for thousands of people. Yeah, it is. It's like, you can't just, like,
Starting point is 00:21:55 go on the bus and drive eight hours and, and, like, calm your nerves down. Yeah, watch like World Cup
Starting point is 00:22:02 and eat life cereal. Yeah. I'm watching these, I mean, like, my adrenaline's fucking rage. I'm like, we fucking crushed it.
Starting point is 00:22:09 I'm just watching Mike Gantzer played Donkey Kong. Down to it. really? Is he a Donkey Kong guy? He loves Donkey Kong. I never, I'm like, I'm fascinated by him. I don't get older now. Nintendo, it's kind of fun, but it's also like,
Starting point is 00:22:25 they're like meaningless games, you know? Yeah, it's kind of for kids, the Switch, I feel like there's like three adult games and then everything else is. We've been playing, uh, we are, switch. I've been saying we, that's an old game, huh? Yeah, whatever, yeah. Yeah, it's whatever. Um, I get, I get, I get what you're saying. Mario Kart. Well, that sounds fun as shit, actually. That's because everybody can play and, like, gather around the hearth. Have you guys been watching the World Cup? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I'm obsessed. Dude, I've watched so many games. With how everyone's approaching America. Oh my God. I can't stop watching videos of Scottish people. Scottish people.
Starting point is 00:23:01 South Koreans. I love, dude. It's been so fun seeing people eat at a fucking waffle house for the first fucking time. I know. It's like that's just not even good. You guys
Starting point is 00:23:12 This is like Did you see My favorite You know America is kind of a vibe You know Like we got this We're all
Starting point is 00:23:21 Opposed to Everyone's like Yeah America I hate Yeah Yeah Where do you go
Starting point is 00:23:30 You can't go You can't go see a fucking show on a Tuesday In fucking Uh Rotterdam Netherlands No you can't
Starting point is 00:23:38 Go see You can't go do a 6 a M fucking late night gris show in some fucking parking lot in fucking Scotland. You can't get a Minion's Wendy's Meal. You can't get a Minnions Wendy's Meal in Manchester, England. I'll tell you that much. You ever wanted 72 ounces of Coca-Cola?
Starting point is 00:23:58 Try to find that in fucking Germany. No, you can't. The whole country will die. Oh, man, I went to watch England. I went to watch an England game in a bar when they played Panama, and I was kind of like, I was rooting for England, but I was just kind of fucking with, you know, because like my mom's from there, so I know how to fuck with him. And this one guy, I was like, well, they won.
Starting point is 00:24:14 I was like, man, you guys should check out real football sometime. And he goes, what do you mean, gay rugby? And I was like, Ray Lewis could take over your entire country in three days by himself. It's so funny. They call it gay rugby. I was like, yeah, that's why every rugby player is trying to play that. Who are the best fans? Who are the best fans in the World Cup, I think, so far?
Starting point is 00:24:34 Let's go back and forwards. You can go first. I mean, let's do sidebar ones that no one expects. Because Scotland's obvious. Because the Norwegians are fucking killing it. The Roe thing is the best chant. It is. The Brazilians always kill it.
Starting point is 00:24:53 They kill it. They'll fly and go see everyone. The Argentinians with their beautiful German haircuts, they're great. Oh, God. It's been amazing to see also how many people can afford to fly to America just last minute to go to a, and fill out these fucking, these big-ass stadiums. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:25:16 I thought, yeah, it's kind of weird because, like, the narrative about Europe. Everyone was saying, like,
Starting point is 00:25:19 oh, the tick, everyone, this is why the news is so, I can't handle the news. I'm done watching the news. It's a whole of this fucking fear mongering, bullshit.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And everyone's just like, oh, ticket sales to the World Cup, blah, blah, blah, those, those fucking seats are fucking packed. Shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Everyone, they acted like, everyone, they acted like, we did lose. We got our ass kick last night. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yeah, we got smoke blessed. Belgium's just... They didn't play good at all. I mean, that's a real team. We're not serious soccer country. They've been playing Bosnia and fucking, you know. Who else would we play? Paraguay.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Who else is good fans? But... I'm sure the Netherlands, they're probably sick. Oh my God, the most beautiful women in the Netherlands. You see all these great and beautiful men? Everyone's fucking hot in the Netherlands. Yeah. Everyone's hot in Norway.
Starting point is 00:26:07 You see all these, you see all these like Nordic aliens. just like just seven foot tall just like blonde hair like bro that guy on Norway what's his name airlock Harland or whatever Holland he looks like he looks like something out of like Game of Thrones dude
Starting point is 00:26:23 he looks like he's dude I watch his die his algorithm is all on my shit right now because I'm like into soccer right now yeah yeah yeah his diet is crazy raw milk yeah it looks like he guards Narnia he's the bouncer at Narnia.
Starting point is 00:26:44 That guy could play in the NFL, I think. It's the gates. All right, so who's the fan? All right, so let's rank, let's rank the top. Norwegian's S-tier, right? Norwegian's, okay, yeah. Let's do three S-tier is Norwegian, Scotland.
Starting point is 00:26:59 What's the third one? Dude, seen Scotland? Because I've been traveling in all these cities, and I just moved to New York. So I guess we could talk about that, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Scotland. They rule.
Starting point is 00:27:13 They've been taking over. Billions came to New York. It was so crazy. That week in New York, I moved there, what, three weeks ago? Don't worry. I still live in New York. I still live in Denver, too. I saw my house there.
Starting point is 00:27:27 He's by coastal. He's by coastal. If I'm going to be single, I'm going to travel everywhere. I realize I'm going to be forever single. Forever young. It's not even a lonely thing. I'm just, I just know myself now. I just, I feel better just being by myself.
Starting point is 00:27:46 What are those glasses? It's just some $12 glasses. I got a packed Pacific Sun wear the other day. Okay, so S here, S here. When I was there. Oh yeah, go ahead, talk. S here, Scotland, Norway. Let's get a third S tier in there.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Oh, Netherlands. I would say like, Brazil? South Korea. Oh, yeah, they're pretty fun. Okay, yeah. So, Mexico. Mexico. Oh, dude, Mexico.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Did you watch Mexico? Mexico's been fucking amazing. Yeah, they rule. And they got to play, like, all home games. That England-Mexico game was insane, dude. Oh, yeah, that was crazy. What's the worst ones? What's the F-tier World Cup fans?
Starting point is 00:28:26 Belgium, obviously. Yeah, there was like six Belgium dudes. But also, it's kind of expensive. A lot of these socialistic countries can't afford it. Yeah, but they're also just kind of like, kind of a boring country, Belgium, right? like waffles. They did invent the saxophone.
Starting point is 00:28:44 They did? Yeah, they did. Argentina, I don't want them to win. I'm kind of out on Argentina. Just because, like, they won last time. I don't want to see a repeat. Oh, it's Messi's last run. Give them one more.
Starting point is 00:28:55 No, I like Messi, but I don't want to repeat. I'm going for Norway. Yeah, that's fun, right? That guy's from England. He could be on England. That'd be crazy if they had him and Harry Kane. He was born in England. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:09 But, yeah, worst fans. Oh, you know, did you see the Congo guy? The statue dude that stands like a... He, like, stands like their old president for the whole entire game and doesn't move Democratic Republic of Congo? That guy's insane. The African fans are insane. It's crazy how much Africa teams are coming on in the World Cup, right?
Starting point is 00:29:31 Like, I feel like they barely made the world. Like, I don't think one even made the final eight until, like, the last one. Morocco made the final, obviously, last time. but they're like coming on now because they're keeping their players, I guess, and they're actually playing there instead of playing for France. Yeah, and all the small island teams, Carpe Verde and stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Cabo Verde, yeah, that was amazing, right? Yeah. I might put them at A tier just because they're so small and they made it so far and they're so passionate, right? Yeah. The Colombians are pretty fire. Mm-hmm. And you know they got the bag on them.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Oh, yeah. Speaking of different countries, we are on tour. in each state. Okay, sorry, I got to get it out. We got to get out of the World Cup talk. Okay, Denver, me and Nick Gerlock. Yeah. I invited Nick Gerlock to come open up my big Denver show.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Yeah. Just me and Nick, what's, you excited to play that, Nick? Yeah, I got a good band go. I got a good band ready. Got a good set list. Yeah, yeah, it's good. We have 8,000 people. RSVP, which is fucking sick.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Which means get there early. Get there early. And thanks for selling out the VIP. We're doing this special catering before the show. We sold 100 of them. So thank you for that. Yeah. What kind of food you're going to have? New Orleans food.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Oh, nice. And Denver. We'll see. We'll see if it's any good. But the guys who are catering and are straight from Louisiana. and um so that your k uh do your kajian accent actually i'm just kidding Louisiana all right uh denver uh levitt pavilion um sold out but you could probably get there early i think
Starting point is 00:31:19 they're just going to let a bunch i think they're going to let up to 9000 people in there it's a free show get there early it's going to be packed but we're excited about it was so fun last year oh it was a fucking blast i added trumpet to my band hell yeah next next Next week, Livingston, Montana, Pine Creek, Victor Idaho, the 17th, Haley, Idaho, the 18th. Shout out to everyone who showed up to Snow Basin. Our snow, whatever that festival is called in Idaho. They were playing Snow Basin on the 19th. And then the 21st, we're going to Southern California, Santa Rosa.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Oh, I love Santa Rosa. 22nd, Mill Valley, and then Floyd Fest. Floyd, Fair. That is July. Probably. Anyway, what were you saying? I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Oh yeah, the Philly guy that wanted to murder you or something. Oh, yeah. Then some guy, some guy was like free Palestine. Which? He came into our bus. I wasn't in there and tried to like,
Starting point is 00:32:26 your people for so long. This guy was out of his fucking mind. But I was, we got, the show got rained out. And I was like, and the whole band was like hell of sick. Like we were all just fucking...
Starting point is 00:32:37 Oh, really? Sinus fucking bad thing. We're like, we're gonna do this. We were sick for the last four days of this tour. Damn, that sucks. Oh, that's the worst when the bug gets everybody. Yeah. So yada yada, yada, blahze, blaze.
Starting point is 00:32:53 We're all tired. The show got canceled. Everyone's bummed that we can't play. Everyone's like screaming out of us. Go do something, Andy. Go do something. Like, what do you want me to do with fucking thundering out? Dude, people were messaging me about it.
Starting point is 00:33:07 What do you want me to do? I don't know what to do. These people, it's a, it's, it's, it's kind of like a hippie, wookie festival. And everyone is like, you know, it's more of a party than it is like a professional thing. Oh, really? And no one's given me direction. Okay. I didn't realize it was like, like that. So I'm like, so like, so I end up playing some acoustic set inside the green room for the people left over there.
Starting point is 00:33:32 and it's like 1230. Everyone's fucking tripping balls. Everyone's just like, just like, you know, academy is like, oh my God. I'm like not,
Starting point is 00:33:42 I'm not really, I'm not really fucking around right now. I'm kind of just, because when I'm sad, if I do drugs, when I'm sad, I'm just not, I just go spiral into a fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:33:52 So I've been like learning how to control my emotions. So I haven't been drinking. So I've been like looking all these people for the last four days, I'll spun out. Oh my God, dude.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I'm like, damn. my patience level wasn't isn't as um it just what it's not as uh i'm also just irritated because i'm just like going through stress with like just like you know my finances and everyone the band's kind of broke right now so it's like it also just like blows when the last show of a tour sucks yeah it's supposed to be like the green finale yeah and so we did the show i wanted to make sure, you know, my fans who drove like seven hours, can at least hear like, you know, some of the hits.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Yeah, yeah. And then my phone is blowing up in my, my, uh, pocket. And Mike's like, someone please get in here and help me. Some guy is trying to get into the van trying to kill us. Whoa. Yeah. And he was like screaming and screaming. You people, your people, your people, your people, about like a free Palestine thing.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Have you even ever been to Israel? I'm not even pro-Israel like that. Yeah, yeah. Have you even been there? No, I've never been to Israel. I'm doing the horror. I'm doing the horror to fucking just get everyone together and do a dance together. Yeah, it's like a wedding thing, not a political thing.
Starting point is 00:35:17 The only way, only dances I know because I'm Jewish is the fucking horror. And that's to celebrate a fucking child bar mitzvah. Yeah, or a wedding. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pro-Israel shit. Yeah, exactly. And this guy is losing his mind. And Ganser is holding the door.
Starting point is 00:35:36 He's trying to get in to gouge his fucking eyes out. Holy fuck, dude. He thought Ganser was Jewish too or something. I'd just be yelled. I'm Catholic. I'm Catholic. We love Jesus. We love Jesus.
Starting point is 00:35:47 We love Jesus. I'm not circumcised. I swear, look at my dick. It's not circumcised. I swear there's a turtleneck in there. I eat cheese with me. I eat a cheeseburger. I'm just fucking
Starting point is 00:36:02 playing smoking dope and rock and roll just like dancing around my grave you know just like fucking musicians are the other two people are stuck in the bus I get there I start running over there I'm like Cooney
Starting point is 00:36:20 let's go let's fuck this guy up I'm running over there the security guard already pushed them out up our bus fucking just knocks his dude out. Whoa. Dude.
Starting point is 00:36:33 He fucked up. Yeah, he looked like he was on like meth or something. We were in like West Philadelphia. It was kind of ghetto. I was like, I've never, I've never really,
Starting point is 00:36:43 I mean, it was pretty, I was like, I texted John, like, I'm kind of like low-key, like, scared.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I've never been scared at a gig before. I'm like, but like, you know, we were just hanging out in the parking lot. People were like looking in our shit. and like, really?
Starting point is 00:36:59 It was kind of scary. And West Philadelphia is a little, on the rougher side. I mean, you know, that's why Will Smith had to move to Bel Air. Yeah, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:10 I got like my fucking rugby polo on and a rollout. This is not for me. I have a BMW. But, maybe this is the part of town. This is, maybe I don't love all of Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:37:27 City of brother. I love my ass. You know, and it was a hundred and three degrees. Been like hot as hell. So we're all sick. And you know,
Starting point is 00:37:37 and we have a couple guys with kids now and they're just newly having kids. So, you know, it's like it's a, it's just like this like, uh, what are we doing? What's it all mean type of existential crisis we had?
Starting point is 00:37:52 Just like, and, uh, so I'm just picturing a, I'm just picturing like a movie where it's like a split screen. One of you in Cooney and beats like playing songs and games were just, holding on for his dear life at the same time. Legit was like that.
Starting point is 00:38:05 It felt like a, like a... I don't want anyone to dance around my grave. Yeah. Yeah, it sounds like a, it's like a Francis Copeland film where someone's dying, but he's playing like really like energetic opera music. Yeah. What the fuck, dude. He was nervous.
Starting point is 00:38:22 He was like, I would be too. Because like if someone's left fucked up. Shout out to our merch guy, Trevor. He's like, get the fuck out you screaming. Really? And then, you know, because Mike is a sweet boy. Yeah. But he's also from Buffalo, New York.
Starting point is 00:38:36 He's not a bitch. He will fuck someone up. Yeah, he's like in good shape. He's not a pussy or anything. He ain't scared. Yeah. So we had to do that. And then, you know, the band's all fighting with each other.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Yeah. Always a good thing. And everyone telling everyone I'll go fuck themselves. I'm just like. Vibes, man. I'm like, just get me off this tour for just four days. So I've all stressed out. Cooney's like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:39:00 Let's go to the lake. Let's go to Wisconsin. You're living in that Midwest's life. Dude, I love the Midwest. It's so simple here. It's simple. I went to a bar last night. After we went on the boat, he has like a...
Starting point is 00:39:14 His family has like a pontoon. What do they call a pontoon or platoon? A pontoon boat. It's fucking great. Goes 15 miles per hour. You're just cruising. You're jumping off. You're fucking out of beer.
Starting point is 00:39:24 You're fucking just sitting down playing cards and dice. We get back to this bar. It was the most... constant shit I've ever seen. It's like $5 burger night at the bar. There's kids anywhere in the bar. It was the coolest shit ever. I can live in a small
Starting point is 00:39:40 Midwest town. Just bring my fucking kid to the bar. I'm taking picklebacks and Jamesons and my child is just eating a burger right next to me at the bar. I'm like, this fucking rules, dude. A nine year old boy checks your ID on the way in.
Starting point is 00:39:56 A nine year old boy checks my ID. He's like, getting the fish fry. It's first fry. It's Wednesday. Oh, yeah, dude. Don't take much to entertain the Midwest people. No, so we've been going to that. So, I mean, it's been
Starting point is 00:40:10 a, it's been a lot, but I haven't done shows at five months, so that's why this band's kind of broke at the time. But now we're about to do 100 festivals. You're about to be doing so much, dude. You'll just get in a rhythm again, you'll get it. It'll be good. Yeah. If that show would have went well,
Starting point is 00:40:26 I'm broke. Oh, yeah. I'm not, I don't, this is why work so much because I don't like the idea of even like I got a savings I got my personal stuff I'm fine yeah I know you mean but just to take care of the motions of the band and take care of the podcast
Starting point is 00:40:42 and taking care of everything when I don't have Dota do that I start freaking out and this one like this is why I work so much because I have such anxiety about taking care of this whole fucking thing that it's it freaks me out
Starting point is 00:40:58 when the bank account is getting when I have to like kind of because I normally shotgun bills and shotgun every yeah yeah yeah and this fucking economy being in a ban you know it's where everything cost triple
Starting point is 00:41:12 amount and like it was hard it was hard in a good economy yeah I looked at my credit card statement so I told every I told the guys I told the team yo I want to get ahead on flights four to five months in advance because I don't want with this
Starting point is 00:41:28 Trump tariff and the oil it's just if we do last minute flights it's gonna be way too expensive and then I looked at my credit card because I dictated the or I made the command at $120,000 on my credit card
Starting point is 00:41:45 God I'm like I could have bought a house Oh You could just fucking flights That's not the tour bus who costs 10 grand That's not the fucking gas That costs crazy amount And that's not salary
Starting point is 00:41:57 So like that means 120 grand it was just going to to sit on my credit card for another two months while I do this first month of touring to pay back everything. Right, right, right, damn. So then I'm thinking about, you know, because I'm Jewish, you know, I don't like interest, you know, I'm like, think of interest. Is it like a sin in Judaism? What is it? Like, I don't know. There's something about interest. I do not, I do not like interest. I do not like payments. I don't like monthly payments. I shock on all my, you know, you hate monthly payments. You don't like anytime like, I've noticed. Even my own people money,
Starting point is 00:42:30 I want to pay them immediately. No, but I notice this thing where like, if we get like a tech product, you're like just by the year. You're never like, let's do the monthly thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you never, I'd rather buy it when we have money or don't pay for it. If you have to put it on a monthly thing and you can't afford to just pay for it. You probably can't afford it.
Starting point is 00:42:49 But other people are different. People like the monthly security. I don't have like a salary type of job, you know. Yeah, yeah. We make all our money in the summer and we got to hold on to it all year. you know, we make all our money in the summer just to pay for the tours in the fucking fall and the winter, you know?
Starting point is 00:43:08 Yeah, yeah. We're like, uh, we're like that, I'm like that bartender in Nantucket who gets three months to make as much as they can. It's like the movie Cocktail. To pay for the fucking year. You're Tom Cruise and Cocktail, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Other than that, I love New York. It's been expensive, but it's been fun. It's been fun living there. I mean, it's just, everything's just like right there. You got to come, Nick. I'm coming soon. But you're not going to be there for like two months now, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Yeah. I got this rent controlled place in West Village. Oh, my God. $2,000 a month. Damn, that's like free. In the fucking West Village. Shout out to, I won't cover the stores, but shout out to relics for hooking me up with this person. Yeah, I know who it is.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Yeah, I'm fucking love you. Thank you. I'm out here living in the West Village for 2000. I couldn't say no to it. I'm like, if this is an expense, whatever, if I'm there two weeks a month and I'm in Denver, two weeks a month, I've just been so happy walking around. New York is the best.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I need you to move to New York. I love it there. I'll come in the fall. We'll hang out. We'll go to some comedy shows. Hopefully we get this serious XM deal. If we get this serious XM deal, that'd be sick.
Starting point is 00:44:22 We can blow up. We get that radio show. We'll be set. But I don't know. I'm in this like, I'm 40, man. I'm 40. You're not even close to 40. I'm 38.
Starting point is 00:44:32 No, I'm 38. It's two years. That's a long time, bro. I know, but I'm just kind of realizing if I'm going to go the fucking, you know, being single and just doing my thing. Bachelor life. I got to do it in a big city.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you don't want to be like living, like, where you are right now and be a bachelor. Although a boat is pretty sick. You should get a pontoon boat. You should get a pontoon boat. This is pretty nice. I like this like these like, these vacational lakes things.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Oh, yeah. Vacation homes, do you mean? You can see a little, it's like you could see some of the woks coming out because fish is in town and Madison, Wisconsin tomorrow. Oh, yeah, they're playing Alpine Valley or whatever. Yeah. Damn. That's fun. So all the, all the wooks are finally.
Starting point is 00:45:29 They're coming out of the woodworks that come into the Midwest. So it's been kind of fun to see. And then like, come out of their holes. Like, it's like the very beginning of a zombie movie before they realize the zombie here. They're like, yeah, that's weird. They're like, oh, that's weird. They're like, wait, something's going on here. And then three days later, they're just a zombie.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Yeah, the Midwest looks are kind of like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, because they're already, they're already kind of looks to begin with. So it's like hard to tell. All you hear in like the distant area is just sniffing? It's spreading and getting faster and it's cheaper I can't wait to celebrate Levin Pavilion, we're going to have fun, Nikki
Starting point is 00:46:11 I think it's going to be a fun weekend And my mom, I'm out of cancer, out of chemo For real? Come to the first Frasco show in a long time You're going to get her on stage? She cries every time she sees you, I love it You're her baby boy You're her only son.
Starting point is 00:46:29 My dad too. and you're the youngest kid. You're like, it's like the perfect storm of love. You said video I posted my dad watching fireworks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was cute as hell. They got like 500,000 views. That's the softest I've ever seen him.
Starting point is 00:46:46 I post, yeah, that's the most sensitive I've ever seen him too. How genuine was that, you know? Oh, that was cool. I like him. I got to start posting stuff like that and just putting my music on it because God knows my video. I know, dude. I can't fucking make
Starting point is 00:46:59 I'm getting any fucking I fucking hate that about the internet It's like the harder you try The worst you do Dude I'm done trying that hard It doesn't work I want by ads off making all those videos For that
Starting point is 00:47:11 For that It's not anybody's fault Like they're good videos It's just the economy The internet is stupid Yeah They My algorithm
Starting point is 00:47:22 They want me to talk about Hangovers on Mondays And random shit and you know and random you know affirmations that you're
Starting point is 00:47:32 beautiful which is fine I'll totally do that videos of guys in your bin yeah I'm also a good songwriter there is a product here there's a fucking product here I just don't get this thing on the internet where the harder you try
Starting point is 00:47:44 the worst it is but you know one thing though even if like the streams are doing okay on the new record we're bringing more people than we ever have so maybe that's working yeah I think people I'm thinking of like just making it
Starting point is 00:47:59 a mystery now. I'm thinking of this idea. Think about this game plan. What do you think of this? Let me hear it. Let me hear it. I don't post anything about the shows. I don't post anything.
Starting point is 00:48:11 You just have to come and see it. If we bring the experience back, like I'm kind of over instant. I might just like delete everything. Ooh. I don't think you're going to do that, but that's fun. I might go rogue. I might just go black.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Not like Jimmy Kimball, dude. Not like Jimmy Kimmel. Not like when Jimmy Kimmel was Charles Berkley. I might just go like... I might just cut the cord. Yeah? And, you know, if people feel like I'm being too much online,
Starting point is 00:48:42 I'm just going to cut the cord for eight months, disappear, and try to make the best record I can or just get off the internet for a little bit. It isn't good for you. It's not good for you. It's fun, though, too. There's so much.
Starting point is 00:48:57 funny stuff. You are funny, though, is the thing. Yeah. It's fun to watch your funny videos. Yeah, I mean, we... I like that when he sent me a Sam the other day. What? That one he sent him a samuel today that we can't, you can't post it was really funny.
Starting point is 00:49:12 I know. That would go viral. I wish I could post that video. That would have went viral instantly. Is it just for anybody wondering, it's not that bad. It's just like, you can't post it, but it's not like bad or anything. Yeah. But God damn. It's funny. If it happened to me, I would have totally post.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Yeah, but you can't. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But you don't ever know. Yeah, exactly. He didn't want it on there. It was more cute than anything. He's a band school nerd. He's a cutie.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Man, somebody's band school. These guys who went to school for music. Watch it. I went to school for music. They're a different breed. I went to school for music. You're an anomaly. You're like, you broke the tenth wall.
Starting point is 00:49:53 I don't know. I can't. You are just like, you are, true genius of If it wasn't music You're going to get famous in comedy If it wasn't comedy You get famous in some fucking tech app
Starting point is 00:50:06 You know what helped me is In my early 20s after school I just got dominated by older black guys On stage Just absolutely worked I would just go out every night And sit in with some guys And just get yelled at
Starting point is 00:50:20 And tell them I'm suck And just shut the fuck up All the time It was so good for me Now they're all dead I think the reason why, yeah, I could talk shit is because all my friends, too, they're good shit talkers. Oh, yeah, dude. Talking shit's fun.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Except your L.A. friends, they're kind of, they're not as good at it. I told my L.A. friends, they're horrible at it. They're passive aggressive. They're sensitive. Oh, they're so fucking annoying. All the stereotypes are true about them. They're like competitive for no reason. I love Dolov.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Everyone else. I'm just like. I like them. Other good guys. I talk about that with Nick, too. We're just like, dude, this is why we left L.A. I almost moved back. Like, dude, I'm not going to.
Starting point is 00:51:03 I know. I'm so glad you didn't move there. I can't believe. I can't believe I was like even considering it. I mean, that's beautiful there. It is. But I, but you have the Mexico place for that now.
Starting point is 00:51:14 My parents. Yeah. My parents and Dolov, mostly Dolob. I love, and my parents. My parents and Dolov were the reason why I'd move back. And to be fair, Dolov can take it. a joke. He's not like a, he's not a, he's not a bitch. Oh yeah, we took Walker Kessler from him. Crickets, though.
Starting point is 00:51:34 And I'm like, we got, we got him. Dude, the Lakers, the Lakers, man, they're starting to look like a fucking... Do you like the team? I do, but it's starting to look like a Republican convention. It looks like a JC Penny sale in Minnesota. Yeah, exactly. They're all going to be, come out with Tiki torches in the beginning of each game. I like it. I think we're going to get
Starting point is 00:52:00 Jonathan Caminga too. That's going to be good. Oh, he's an athlete. Yeah, yeah. I think I like Walker Kessler, though.
Starting point is 00:52:05 He's good. He might get Paid Watson, too, from Denver. It could be a good off the bench. I didn't trade. They can keep everybody. Where do you think LeBron's going to go? Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:52:14 That's what I want. I want him to end in Cleveland. Let's put a bookend on this. Don't be corny and go to Golden State. You're going to go to Philly and everyone's going to hate that you went there. Go to fucking Cleveland or go to Miami. And Miami is not even going to be that. that's not even a real bookend.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Book it in the fucking town you went home to, brother. And you don't want another team on your resume. I think he should go to Europe and win a championship because Jordan never did that. He never won a fucking championship. You know what I'm saying? He never won a Spanish League championship. One more thing Jordan didn't do.
Starting point is 00:52:43 It's so LeBron of him. Because we didn't want him back this year. It's over. I'm leaving. It's just like the Sean Eccles thing. Everybody's cool. It ran its courts. Same as a Jake thing.
Starting point is 00:52:55 It's ran its course. The rain, it's course, dude. I'm excited to see what Umphreys does, and I like to make an announcement. I am the new lead guitarist in Umphreys McGee. I haven't been able to announce this yet. I think Brennan likes being the lead guitar player. Yeah, but I'll be taking Jake's position.
Starting point is 00:53:09 No one knows this yet. I just have to get a guitar. I just need an amp. I just got to get an amp. So if anyone has an amp I can borrow, I have to go on tour with Umphreys in two weeks. I'm just going to start saying that. Yo, yo, Nick,
Starting point is 00:53:23 meet the greatest sound man that's ever been sound man. Oh, Sense. You know, have you met Sense? Oh, yeah, we met. We talked super. Look at his, look at the mullet. Look how beautiful that mullet is. He kind of looks like Cooney a little bit in that with that mullet.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Dude, they both look like, they're matching mullets. Do you guys ever kids? Sensei showed me that comedian who reminds me of you. Oh my God, he's like, I've been into him for a couple years now. He is so fucking funny. Yeah, he's like, he's the only new guy I've liked in a lot while. He's so good at, like, he's so good at like, being a, like, offending the people he agrees with. Yeah, and being
Starting point is 00:53:57 relevant, but like on the right side of everything. Yeah, he's like on the right side but you can pretend that's not. Yeah, yeah. Give Nick your, you've been with us now two months? Couple months.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Yeah. Where do we mean? Your analysis of, I, it's a hard, it's a tricky thing to talk about. I took him from article sound system. Logan will not. That man will not talk to me right now.
Starting point is 00:54:23 I apologize. Yeah. That's the business, baby. I'll keep it out. It's okay. You stay quiet, Sense. Let me fight this fight for you.
Starting point is 00:54:32 It's okay. Analysis. Two months into this band, do you think we're psychopaths? Do you like working here? Will you stay here? Yes, I'm staying.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Yes. Okay. You didn't answer if you think they're psychop things right now. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. He didn't answer if you think you're psychopaths or not. He just said it's great.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Do you think what I'm psyched off? No. No, everyone. What report card of this band? Individually. individually. Okay, rank them,
Starting point is 00:54:58 rank every musician by how psychotically are from seventh to first. Yeah. Okay. Psychotic. From a sound check standpoint. Who's the most sane? Remember, Andy pays you. Remember, Andy's on the page you.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Probably Nick. Nick Chamon. Yeah. Dancer. Yeah. Then Ganser. Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:19 And then. You could have Floyd in the mix, too, because these are band member. Okay. Onstage or offstage insanity. Offstage. Offstage, he's normal. Yeah, so he's there. All right.
Starting point is 00:55:30 This is not looking good. Okay. We're doing offstage. Okay, then Floyd. Floyd, Ken. Uh-oh. Oh, you're going to be. So Cooney.
Starting point is 00:55:38 You're somewhere in the middle, actually. Yeah. Really? Who's? Yeah. Whoa. Who is the most insane? Beats.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Oh. Duh. Andy, I told you. Andy Al was fucking insane. But only when he's on stuff. Yeah, when he's on stuff. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Beer. He's just, he's the passive aggressive. He's like. hilarious. Yeah, he's hilarious. Yeah, it's hilarious. With Bo,
Starting point is 00:56:00 it's so fun. Oh, yeah. He's done it twice where I've seen it where it's eight last. So top three. Him, Bo?
Starting point is 00:56:08 Insane? No, just stressed. I didn't think of him as Torpators have to be insane. Cooney is a little crazy? No, no.
Starting point is 00:56:15 There's no one's insane. Yeah. It's just Andy. I told you. See, we had to get one guy. This is good tailgate tailpaw. But only because he's like
Starting point is 00:56:23 passive aggressive to the point where it's funny to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, we were like done. It was like a long day. And then we're like out of beers. And he's like, Bo, he's like, did you get all the beers from the green room?
Starting point is 00:56:38 He's like, no, I honestly didn't. He got out of water. He's like, oh, usually, you know, usually we just get all the beers from the green room. I don't know. But he's like, he's like, no, it's fine. It's just like, you know, it's room full of beers where you just have those beers. Just free beers that we're just leaving there, I guess. But that's cool.
Starting point is 00:56:55 That's whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he'll do that for like five minutes. Let us go to the beer tree and get free beers from the beer tree, I guess. You know what I mean? All right. Who's your least favorite guy in Soundcheck? In Soundcheck?
Starting point is 00:57:09 I leave him alone. I don't go there until the last. It's sound check. Oh, yeah, yeah. I know. It's not Andy. It's definitely not Andy. I have no positive or negative energy in a sound check.
Starting point is 00:57:19 I'm neutral. That way no one thinks it's just a sound guy trick. Sense is like that autistic. Autistic. kid with his headphones on. Just know exactly what he's like, he's doing the lawnmower. Yeah. Just fucking making it perfect, you know.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Yeah, sick. Do you have a monitor guy right now or no? Sensei. Oh, I thought you were the front of house. I'm both. If I need to be on both. If they have someone, I try to put them in the right direction, but then. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:48 All right, sense. Before we leave, we're going to the sauna together. Oh, nice. You're going to sweat? I've been sauning every day. I think this is. is why I'm normally I would I would want to just
Starting point is 00:57:59 just he's going to try to see your dick it's just a phone call right this is a podcast oh cool sense I'm yeah me and Andy me and Andy always just have phone calls over Zoom yeah I love the chat I love everybody
Starting point is 00:58:13 nope too late and I remain neutral in all my stances thank you Sese have a good thing too late bitch I think the sana has helped me calm my nerves he's gonna try to see your dick in the sauna Yeah. You better keep no underwear in there.
Starting point is 00:58:31 I'll give you a bonus. I think the sauna's been helping. I'm finding sonnas everywhere, Nick. I go for 45 minutes. I am so normally all the, you know, like when I'm stressed out like this, you would hear me screaming at it. You know, I talk to you. I'm learning out of control the anxiety and turn it into fossil fuel. You've been drinking less?
Starting point is 00:58:52 I feel like you've been drinking less. Drinking less. Every now and then I'll do a six. I'll do a 6 a.m. Coke night, but not every night anymore. We're only human. For adults. Yeah, I'm not doing it every night, but... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:05 One time this tour, I did two nights in a row, 6 a.m., and I didn't feel good. And I kind of... I boss. Yeah. But no, once a week, maybe, a 6 a.m. night, once every other week. I'm not doing it that much. Yeah, that's good. It's good.
Starting point is 00:59:23 I used to do, like, you know, three nights of fucking... Yeah. It was more like how many nice. It's also why I had to kind of get out of Denver. Because I couldn't go home. I couldn't go home and then rip a bag till 6 a.m. Denver is a tempter. The tempterous here, yeah, I need to go home and chill.
Starting point is 00:59:42 I need to go home and like, at least in New York I could go to have a nice meal, maybe a couple of drinks, and just go the fuck home. Right, and not to kiss your ass, but you're like too famous in Denver. Yeah. I know you don't want to hear that. But I'm kidding. I know you hate hearing how finished you are. I mean, I can't go to Cervantes.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Yeah, like if I do it two weeks in a row, everyone's like, oh, he's going. They're watching me. I'm like, I'll go hang out in Denver for a week a month. Yeah. That's good. But everybody wants to party with you here. I've walked six miles. Maybe two people recognize me.
Starting point is 01:00:19 They have a Taylor Swift wedding to go to. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's all good. Any final words for the people? people um
Starting point is 01:00:29 try to stay cool out there people it's pretty speaking of sanas you just got to go outside here to be fucking the sauna god damn it's so hot oh we're back we finally have interviews again i see we have interviews on cheese yeah yeah you're in town oh we had some good ones uh yellow wolf rodrigo a garela that would be good they're fucking yeah they're good they're amazing something different you know marks skibilia all right guys have a great day have a great week um
Starting point is 01:00:56 are putting up with us. Sorry, it's summer. So I've been on my grind and I haven't been able to do podcasts. But also, Nick, let's put out the fucking assistant living home. I'll see how dropping one... I think I was dropping one Friday.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Yeah, you should. A little bonus app. Everybody will keep an eye on for that Friday. And also, everyone, we should probably talk about the volume thing. So only Frasco is moving. We left volume.com. And we are slowly working on our Patreon.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Jack, when do you think the Patreon will be done? I mean, it's basically ready. I think we were talking about launching it. August? Oh, shit. All right, cool. So new things, new stuff. It's going to be great.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Instead of like, you know, the thing with the live streams, we're going to be doing board mixes. And we're going to give you just as much as we're giving you at the volume. but it's on Patreon where everyone... Much more accessible. You could... You could get it on Apple.
Starting point is 01:02:05 You can get it on Spotify. You get on anywhere. Yeah, exactly. All right, guys, be safe out there. Thanks for letting me rant to my boy, Nick. Go Norway. Go Norway. Go fucking Norway.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Let's go. Let's root for some... And... Colombia. America. Way to go treat these Europeans with some guys. goddamn respect. Yeah, we're a good place.
Starting point is 01:02:29 They came out to the south. They came out to Alabama. They came out to fucking everywhere. And you gave them fucking love. We need to show people that American people are good people. And you did that. I appreciate it. It was crazy realizing that Europeans literally have nothing.
Starting point is 01:02:44 They have their minds blown by sunsets here. It's like, do you have a sunset? What do you have there? They don't have waffles? They don't have waffles. They were losing their fucking mind to ranch. I was like, this is awesome. Oh, dude, I know.
Starting point is 01:02:55 I took for granted ranch When I saw Europeans freaking out about ranch I'm like I love ranch too And as I got older I just like kind of just like thought That was his part of life It isn't
Starting point is 01:03:07 I don't like blue cheese I don't have ranch They don't have rain they can't The European mind Can not comprehend ranch dressing No they can't All right guys Goodbye God bless
Starting point is 01:03:18 And uh And uh Keep coming out to shows This band's on fire You should see every one of these shows Because this band is fucking good Love you Nick Goodbye.
Starting point is 01:03:26 See you Saturday.

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