Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - BONUS EP: Barbara

Episode Date: May 24, 2024

LOCAL FRIDAY (or 'breakthru friday?' we're workshopping) Bonus episode alert! A convo with Denver's own Barbara, that you don't wanna miss. Don't forget to drink some water this weekend and tell the person in the mirror that you love em And guess what... You can watch full episodes of our show *exclusively* on Volume.com now in color!  Psyched to partner up with our buddies at Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. Call, leave a message, and tell us if you think one can get addicted to mushrooms: [phone]  Check out our new album!, L'Optimist on all platforms Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out our good friends that help us unwind and sleep easy while on the road and at home: dialedingummies.com Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Arno Bakker

Hey guys, it's Andy. Yes, it's Friday and you're getting a podcast bonus episode. We're calling it Local Friday or we haven't figured out a name yet. It's a Breakthrough Friday where we're gonna find we're gonna give the bands, the smaller bands, outlet to fucking show their stuff, get them on an interview, have you hear some new music, and get the word out for, you know, we could do all the big bands, we can, but we gotta give the whole community

some love. So our next act that we're gonna be interviewing is from Colorado. They're called Barbara. They're some bad bitches. These are some baddies. Great songs. We're going to play a song right now. The interview is awesome.

I want you to get to know this band. One of my favorite bands in Denver right now. They're just sweethearts. Enjoy the podcast and we'll see you Tuesday. Thank you. As we're leaving In letting go I somehow know It always grows Nothing is lost Lost Look past the truth.

It's all too new. How do I choose? I win, but I lose for this interview because I really want to get these ladies some exposure with our scene we're not that big of a podcast but we could help any way we can because these bitches are bad forgot Barbara on the fucking pocket and she grew up in the town of porn yes this is where the point awesome actually I haven't I want to talk to you first. It's like Detroit with cars? Bridget? Hello.

Hello, my 818 queen. I know. I got really excited when I saw your 818, and I was like, do I mention it now or on the podcast? LA people love to tell people they're awesome. And then you went for it. So you're from Harvard Wesley? I went there, yeah, for a bit.

What? Damn. And now you're out here in fucking Hipsterville, Denver, Colorado. Yeah. What did you move? Well, you know, grew up in Chatsworth. Hiked my way to Harvard-Westlake. Ended up being thankful for it because they had a music program in the school I was going to.

It is a good program. Yeah. So that kept me going with saxophone. So that was my main instrument. And then I got a scholarship to go to DU for music. And that's why I met these gals. Let's fucking go. The ladies are here.

You all went to DU for music, right? Yeah, we all went to the same music program together. You all went to the same music program? Yeah. Jazz musicians. Yeah. Okay, let's introduce. We're getting excited.

We know more. We know you guys. We know you. Let's get the crap I like the energy though The energy's vibing You should have heard the energy You got last

In this interview yesterday Oh the other Yeah we interviewed Tim Reynolds From Dave Matthews Band And he might have been autistic We might We'll cut that out

We'll cut that out My high No my high school boyfriend Loved Dave Matthews Band Really Took me to a Dave Matthews Band Concert for our third date Really

Shut the fuck up It was us And all the 40 year old women I think we should see Matthews Band. Really? Took me to a Dave Matthews Band concert for our third date. Really? Shut the fuck up. It was us and all the 40-year-old women. I think we should see other bands. But isn't it crazy in LA, we didn't really get into like the jam scene and stuff. There wasn't like a jam scene. It was like,

for me, it was pop punk Vans Warped Tour. Definitely. You wore your checkered Vans. Oh my God. The Vans Warped Tour Was my fucking vibe And like I used to book shows At the Cobalt Cafe Do you remember the Cobalt Cafe?

I don't I grew up Where was that? Probably closed Canoga and Ventura Yeah that's kind of by Or Canoga and Sherman Way That's kind of by where I lived

Never heard of it Oh my god Is it not there anymore? It's gone It was an all ages venue There you are Yeah Oh yeah how old are you guys?

Okay, we need to settle down. Let's get the audience. Andy's stimming out right now. I love you guys. I fucking love you. You're a bad bitch. She can make a drink. Let's introduce each other. You go first. I'm Bridget.

My homies call me Bart. Yeah, I grew up in California Came to Colorado Play saxophone and bass And I'm also known as Barbara So what's your favorite color? My favorite color is brown And do you have any hobbies outside of music?

Woodworking Oh yeah you're the artist Did you say I heard you downstairs saying you're into like vintage wood? Yeah I like obsessively collect wood. It's my favorite kind of wood. Yeah. Awesome.

Hello. I'm Camila. I grew up in Colorado. I went to school. Local Barb. Yes. Very local Barb. Local Barbs.

Hometown Barb. Hometown Barb. Hometown Barb. Hometown Barb. I studied jazz piano and jazz composition. I got my master's in 2020. Yeah, so I write like big band charts and stuff. But my actual passion in music is Barbara. And I play guitar and sing in Barbara.

And that's what I want to do with my life ultimately is Barbara. Hold on, you guys are smart. Favorite color? Favorite color is green And hobbies outside of music I really like Hiking Like sports illustrated for kids

I like hiking Which just makes me a Colorado trope But you're from here Yeah I'm from here Do you know how rare that is? Yeah, I'm a true native. I've never met anyone from Denver in my life. That's why it's nice.

I don't meet a lot of people from the Valley. 818 up in the middle of the block. I honestly think you meet more people from Indiana than LA here. Really? Yeah. I think more people move here from the Midwest. I think you're projecting. Maybe.

Maybe not Indiana specifically. I would agree with the Midwest. There's not that many people in Indiana. Last but not least. My name is Anna. I grew up in Illinois. And I came out here for school also, DU. I studied classical trombone performance.

And I play drums in Barbara. And favorite color. And my favorite color is yellow. And your hobby outside of music. My hobby outside of music. I don't know. I guess I am a bartender, so I do that. Oh, yeah. A great bartender.

You're not like a bartender. One of the best bars in Denver, Colorado. In the world. One of the best. Top 50 North America. Top 50 North America. It's my favorite. And she won trivia last night. You won trivia. I knew three of the questions. Hank fucked me up last night You won trivia I knew Hank was on fire

Hank fucked me up last night Okay so how did you guys meet Was the music program Very nerdy and you're like We're the coolest people in this group We should fucking hang out Essentially It was just a bunch of dudes

And then we were like we are the girls Really there wasn't a lot of girls And then we were like We are the girls Yeah Really? There wasn't a lot of girls In the scene? Bridget and I like A lot of cool girls We were like two or four In the jazz program

Wow Yeah I was a senior Bridget was a freshman And there was like a day In big band rehearsal We were the only two women In the big band That like

The director made A shitty joke about women And we just kind of like looked at each other and i think from that moment we knew jazz is very barbara started barbara has started origins yeah and i would yeah do these like white nerds just like smirk at you like oh you're gonna guys gonna play jazz you know like do they give you shit? Do they sex? How do you misogynist? Misogynize? Do they misogynize jazz music?

What do you mean? Are they like, these are just women playing jazz. Are they nerdy like that? Is it competitive? They're not even giving you the time to be there. Fundamentally, that's bullshit. You got to imagine, they'res okay, so they're already like that with other dudes Even right there already like catty and weird and then you add on the fact that they probably have never been on a date

before a lot of And they kind of hate you know they don't like you know spend their entire fucking life in a practice room I'm only kind of good at tax money that's wild okay so you have the social skills then you're a bad musician yeah exactly probably yeah i think that's why i'm a bad musician you got good social skills so what was the first song you wrote And when did you realize You had to do this full time

Was it Houdini It was Houdini Okay so we are obsessed With the show Freaks and Geeks Do you guys like the show Hell yeah So Judd Apatow is my guy

Yeah I love that guy Yeah so the fourth episode I just rewatched it So that's why I know That specific information I think it's the fourth episode I thought it was the second Okay it's the second episode

Or is it the fourth I don't know I don't know But Sam is gonna fight fight Alan, the bully. And then he doesn't show up because he's talking to Cindy Sanders. And Cindy, he has a huge crush on Cindy, which like she's the worst character in the show by far. Fuck Cindy. So like Bill and Neil end up going to the fight waiting for Sam.

And then Alan rolls up and Sam's not there. And then Bill is all nervous and he's like he's like I have a bad feeling in my stomach like this is this is how Houdini died oh yeah and so then we took that line and like wrote a song around that line and then we were like cool and we were all just wanted to play different instruments to get away from music school entirely so none of us are playing the instruments that we studied so we learned them together. To backtrack a little bit,

this is like the... Barbara was born of all of us being like pretty fucking burnt out and shit on our instruments that we studied in school. Yeah, we were bored for it. Yeah, we were bored for it at that time. Dumb ass.

And then it was like COVID and we were all just like kind of stuck at home. We were like, well, we want to like just like make music and have fun. So we all started like teaching ourselves our different instruments. And then we were like, huh, drums and bass and guitar.

Hmm. Convenient. Yeah. We were just like down a 12 of claws and like go play in our basement. Did you guys live together? We did for three years. We just moved out last summer. Because you're all hitched up. Yeah, we all went and moved in with the boys.

I got handsome boyfriends that are cool. Do they get jealous about your... Barbara's polyamorous. Barbara's polyamorous. Do they get jealous of like... You're the boys. You're chugging 12 claws and fucking writing punk songs. That's very Andy Frasco.

That is my fucking dream. Let me manage you. I'm about to hire you. Like, okay. Okay, so what are you listening to? Do you guys all like the same type of music? What's inspiring you to do this

type of punk? Coverage. When we first started living together, we made a music Venn diagram. And we just had our three circles and where they all overlapped and where they all were different. So the differences were... It was COVID.

You guys are the most interesting band we've had on. Fuck dude bands. Fuck dude bands. You guys don't try to sound like... You're like, we made a Venn diagram, motherfucker. We were gone off the claws. And we made purple and red, bitch. Yeah, we did.

I think where we were all different was... Mine was disco, which was an outlier. Yours was hip-hop, which was the outlier. And yours was like... You had all the dad rock under your belt. Lots of dad rock. I'm like so obsessed with Steely Dan. I can't even lie about that.

They're great. Their lyrics are underrated, by the way. Their lyrics are fucking weird. They have meaning behind them. Sure. I just saw Steely Dan with the Eagles a couple weeks ago. I was ready to shit on it. I was telling...

He's like Steely Dan rules. I was ready to shit on it. And I went. It was fucking awesome because they're funky as shit and like they actually have some and they got like

the dopest band ever in the planet they know how to hire dude they know how to hire they're on ZipRecruiter so you make a Venn diagram yeah

the center is psych rock and like indie rock yeah so lots of Spirit of the Beehive. This was like Captain Planet. The Beehive.

Wait, what? It's Captain Planet. Exactly. Psych rock. Hip hop. Disco. No men. Together.

Women in psych rock. We are Barbara. We all have our rings. We are Barbara. We are Barbara. Yeah. So what was your first show? What was it like?

Were you nervous? It was a house show. That sounds fucking awesome. At our house that we all lived in together. Called the Green House. What a vibe. And what, did you just bring your friends over? It was pretty nice.

Yeah, we brought our friends. Tall boys and fucking claws and fucking rocking out. Honestly, you're not our friends. Then they got boyfriends from there. Then you got boyfriends from there. You're from the parties. You got groupies. Honestly, are they groupies? Are they groupies?

Yeah, they're groupies. Yeah, we date our fans. They're all groupies. Don't fuck fans, girls. Yeah, we date our fans. I'm interested in knowing how you came up with the name Barbara It's a fucking awesome band name It is a great name

How'd you get Nick? My parents gave it to me Did your parents name your band Barbara? Yes actually No we were like in all honesty Just like driving up to my parents cabin Which is where we've done a lot of our writing And we recorded the first album up there too

I have a mustard stain on my yacht club hot dog last night with the mustard stains um but we were just like brainstorming names for a while and we were like we liked the idea of a name we were to be honest we were in between kevin and barbara so you guys should start a side project called Kevin. And they should date. It's like both bands play the show. It's kind of like a couple. But they're like different music.

But it's the same people. And then Kevin proposes to Barbara at the end of the Barbara show. That's the encore. The plot twist is love. Or Kevin could be an all dude Barbara cover band. The plot twist is love. The Plot Twist is Love Or Kevin could be an all dude That's not brand for us Kevin could be an all dude Barbara cover band

The Plot Twist is Love I'm gonna start an all dude Barbara cover band called Kevin Oh that sounds awesome Barbara cover band Just three dudes Okay hold on Okay let's get back into this

Who's mixing the records At your parents cabin So for the first album it was our it was bridget's boyfriend ethan and our friend kevin uh we have a great program i do you for that right yeah so kevin came out of that program and ethan's also just like an amazing musician and has a lot of background in that so they brought up a bunch of gear we set up a makeshift studio over three days it was in january of 2022. oh so it's hard yeah so you could just like chill there your parents are like it just have the house

yeah sounds like the dream it was really cool it was yeah it's like you know where like fair play is kind of oh so it's like kind of near breck it's like yeah so what kind of ruckus where you get into in the fair play where Play What was going on Taking acid And fucking Writing psych songs For the writing Well we like Already had the songs written

When we went up To record the record Right But we did Writing sessions And we do writing sessions Up there where we typically You know

It's fucking awesome Get drunk and take mushrooms Yeah it's usually shrooms Do they just You just roll in They're just Like it's probably Like a really

Nice community And they're like Playing psych rock Well it's like in the middle of the woods This cabin is on a couple acres of land So there's not like We're not bothering anyone So who writes the lyrics?

It's usually collective Once we're all like On shrooms, our minds kind of do a thing where they all sing. You know what I mean? This band is so for you. This band is my type of band.

He's about to hire you guys. You guys are going on tour with us. Okay, so what are you writing about in your music? What are your themes? Love. I feel like the first album, Escape Artist, everything kind of was about escaping our era of anxiety and self-doubt.

You can make it... It sounds kind of cheesy when you say it all out loud, but that's what it was all about. So you guys deal with self-doubt and anxiety and depression? Like what were you going through? What were you going through? I think we're women musicians. Yeah, that comes with the territory, I say.

Yeah, that's got to be fucking hard. It's such bullshit that music is like quote unquote men's game when women are more emotionally in depth to actually talk about art than fucking dumb ass it's wild to me i have nothing to add to that it's like shit that builds up where you're like having lessons with your teacher you're paying for and every other word is like i didn't say that because you're a girl i didn't say that because you're a girl it's just like you're trying to be nice but at a certain point you just kind of like start like

what is I don't understand any input I'm getting. Right, right, right. And then you just kind of go into this whirlwind of like self-doubt. Yeah.

Whereas it should just be about like how, why, what you're doing this for. And then often like it doesn't happen a lot but just like getting an opportunity because

you're a woman like those things come along sometimes where there's like a specific organization like made for that and then people throwing it in your face being like oh well you only got that because you're women and we're like yeah but that exists because you're men yeah like i'm not gonna say no to an opportunity like the same way you wouldn't say no to an opportunity as a man. It's like the worst. When did we become this fucking shallow?

I don't know. The year negative 4,000 BC. I think it's been around. I think women became acknowledged like eight years ago. You know what I'm saying? It's kind of true though. 2016 maybe?

I don't know. 2016. Roughly. But like, what's the main vision for this band? Do you guys want to go on tour forever like get the fuck out of denver and tour 200 dates a year just want to make records like what's the

vision i think we want it to be yeah both everything like we're all on the same page we want it to be our livelihood and like we finally found a space where the three of us like are all absolutely comfortable with each other like absolutely our full creative selves like our new instruments have given us like a new sense of exploration and creativity that the old instruments like didn't have like learning french or something and it's like i don't know barb is love like we just like love each other we want it to be a thing you know they get along so much better than any dude band I know. There's no ego.

There's no ego. They want each other to do well. Yeah. I love this so goddamn much. What was the most... Okay, you're the first. This is like you're in the growing pains of the band. What was the most awkward gig that you got booked on so far?

Worst gig? Probably was tour or something. Right? Have you been on tour yet? Yeah, we went on tour last year. Is that the one where you went to Canada? Yeah, so we made it into Sled Island, which is in Calgary, and so we just

booked a tour around that going up. We did a couple shows in Salt Lake, Missoula, Jackson Hole, Edmonton. Those are long-ass fucking drives. They're long hauls. We took Bridget's Tacoma. How'd you make any money? We broke even. Let's fucking drive. They're long hauls. Truly. We took Bridget's Tacoma. How'd you make any money?

We broke even. That's fucking good. I'll take that. That's a W. At this early in the game? I didn't break even. You sometimes still don't break even. I still don't break even.

Yeah, with those flights. God damn it. We did like a... God damn flights. We're good at spreadsheets. Yeah, we're really good at spreadsheets. I don't know. You make spreadsheets too?

You're not drug addicts. I know. It's a girl band. Oh my god And Venn diagram I bet the van smells so much better Yeah like what's the van like? Is it clean?

It's a truck Talk about your truck Who drives the most? It's Bridget's little friend I actually bought it Right before we went on tour I just like sold my car And I was like

We need a car to get All of our gear in And then my friend Of a long time I loved his truck And he was like I'm moving to England I'm selling my truck And so like three days Before tour On Craigslist I sold long time, I loved his truck and he was like, I'm moving to England. I'm selling my truck.

And so like three days before tour, on Craigslist, I sold my car and then bought his truck. Nice. Hold on, do you guys all sleep in the truck together? No, we did Airbnbs and had friends and stuff. There's only three of us. Hold on, so you still made enough money? Where were you playing? Top hats and stuff?

Well, so we did like a tour kickoff party where we sold a bunch of merch. And I bought a t-shirt. Really? Yeah. That kind of paid for everything. That paid for like half. And then the money we made on the road

covered everything else. Damn. Isn't this community, you know, we can talk about the men, about the music, but this community is all over each other. Not all men, it's okay. We support each other.

Not all men. That's what men say at least. But we support each other. Not all men. That's what men say, at least. But we support each other. And I love that. That's true. I'm always going to your trivia. You're always coming to my shit. I go to Andy's stuff.

As long as he pays me to sit in. Yeah, you sit in. I have to pay him to come to my shit. I don't ever ask for money, to be fair. I never ask for money. No, but you give me the look. Meters running. The meters running.

Just because I have to hang out with your band. That's what the money's worth your band No I love their band No you don't fuck with them it's fine No I like your band So you guys did a fundraiser And then you went on tour What was the worst gig I feel like

Missoula was just kind of like It was a Sunday It was at like an art center Not a lot of people came. They think they're Denver, but they're not Denver. The venue did put in a lot of effort, but it just didn't land. It was a Sunday.

Part of the industry, get used to it. It was also after Jackson Hole, which was our heaviest drinking night. Did you play Mangy Moose? Yeah. Why are the worst gigs always when you're hungover? Well, I at least personally blacked out at the Cowboy. Hell yeah.

I blacked out as well. And then I fucking forgot my hardware bag in Jackson Hole. Yes, we had to stop on the way home. Which we didn't realize until we were unloading for our gig in Missoula. Oh my God.

Class, you're such a drummer. That's so drummer-coded. Which in retrospect, I should have left more shit in Jackson because the rest of the tour was backlined. Did you leave your trombone? You should get up and play a little trombone, man. Do you guys hate your real instruments?

No. I make my main living playing the piano. Really? I love playing piano. I love writing jazz. I love my jazz life. I have a piano. I love writing jazz. I love my jazz life. I have a quartet and everything. What an artist. Oh my god. This is your side bitch. Camila's a real musician, guys. Okay, we're all real musicians.

You all have... No, like yeah, I full time just teach and play. She's a beast. Can I pay you to teach me how to play piano? I would love that. I'll give you a discounted rate. Please, let's go. I love a discount.

I'm Jewish. Disclaimer. Fingers aren't human fingers. Okay. Another question about teaching the youth. Yeah. What's the young generation, what are they inspired by now?

What's the future of music looking like? I'm really happy with the kids I have right now because they all actually seem to want to do it. And that hasn't been the case for a while in my teaching career. A lot of the time it's like parents signing their kids up because they know it's good for their brain, which is another fine reason, I guess, to take lessons. Yeah, it's babysitting.

But I feel like now the kids especially ones who are doing like more specific if they're like really into jazz or really into songwriting um i think they have so much exposure to so much music because everything is available that they all like the ones who care have taste. They're into stuff. And they're really creative. They want to emulate what they're hearing. Which sometimes I don't. Like the benefit of YouTube or something. In a way, yeah.

There's a lot of kids who try to learn some Taylor Swift songs. And I'm not going to hate on them for that. Do you teach them it? Oh, sure. If they have an interest that they're like, I want to learn this, then I'm going to foster that love. Do you ever, like, just, like, put a little mushroom cap on your head? Absolutely not. Absolutely not.

Let's explore another side of you, little Billy. No, she doesn't give eight-year-olds drugs. Do you ever give eight-year-olds drugs at work? No, I'm pretty... Let's explore that mind, little Billy. That would be so progressive. No, I like to keep my jobs and the kids though

the kids aren't really fucking around with drugs anymore I mean I'm teaching kids oh like children oh I thought you said you were teaching like 17 year olds sometimes I have like high schoolers but like even then Jesus Christ Andy what the fuck is wrong with you I tend to have very professional boundaries

okay P. Diddy. He's in trouble. What happened to P. Diddy? Oh, man. All this stuff's coming out. He's like Harvey Weinstein, basically, of hip-hop. Who is? P. Diddy. Really? Yeah, look it up. I'm not going to... I don't want to get killed. Oh, fair. I feel like he could have me killed if I talk about him on this podcast. What?

With a Denver jam band podcast? Who knows, dude? P. Diddy's a very powerful man. He sees everything. I thought about that about R. Kelly, too. He's in prison. No, he didn't run shit. He was just a creep. Let's get back to Barbara. Ladies,

you make this your living. What about you guys? Do you feel like you want to make this your living, or what's your other job that you have to do now until Barbara blows up? I do want this to be my living, kind of co-living. So I've been working in a fabrication shop doing woodworking for Blazy Susan, which is a... Oh, dude!

They've been coming out to our show. They've been trying to sponsor the podcast. Oh, yeah. I mean, I worked... I was their 11th person hired there. So I helped them build their... Is it a poppin' business. Oh, yeah. I mean, I worked... I was their 11th person hired there. So I helped them build their... Is it a poppin' business? Yeah, definitely.

They were... I would play gigs with... Slidewalk is like the owner's band and their jam band. So I played... We played a 70s gig with them at like a frat party and that's how I got the job.

Do you make like signs and stuff? I made all of the weed trays. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Side track, side track. Yeah, like ash trays, weed trays, rolling trays.

So I was in charge of like doing all of the machining and making those. Whoa, cool. And sanding and... Hold on, hold on. Backtrack, backtrack. You guys played

a 70s fraternity party? Yeah. Like fuck Blazys Susan. They don't pay shit. We're not doing a fucking Blazys Susan. We're not doing a Blazys Susan.

No more talk about Blazys Susan. Pink t-shirt Pink and cool, guys. We played that gig when Will was starting the business and they were just a fun band that met on Craig's list

and I knew the pianist and they hired us to be the horns for the gig and we played at Herman's Hideaway all of these 70 covers and it was for this frat party and then I was telling them the other day how after we played that show,

there was a bunch of freshmen in my math class because I had to take a math class to finish my credits, and they all saw me performing in class the next day. They were like, we took ecstasy for the first time. And I was sitting there, I was like, sick. I was like, it's freaking out.

Barbara's fucking what? One college kid at a time, man. Just fucking, just drugging them up. Ecstasy for the first time, man. Wow. I remember that. I was happy and sweaty. I remember the first time. Two days later, the saddest you've ever been. I wanted to commit suicide.

I was watching like Degrassi or something. Not for me. I cannot do that hangover it's bad So what about you What about me If Barbara takes off This is it You're gonna quit piano

And you're gonna be in a psych rock band You know what if Barbara takes off I will do anything That's all I want If anything it would only help your other piano stuff It already does I'm a better piano player because I have more creativity and openness now

Have you guys ever fought? Barely What was the biggest blowout? I would say the cat I can tell the story What happened? You can start the story It's kind of sad.

We haven't talked about it since it happened. We were all pretty hungover. And then we were like, ooh, let's get a cat. Hold on, hold on. Like an actual cat? Yeah, for our house. Like a kitty cat, you know? A kitty cat.

Like meow. And then so we went to the shelter thing. And then we were like looking at cats. And then we were like, like oh we like this cat and then camilla was like i kind of you know feel like i might be allergic here but you know it's also okay well i was like i'm feeling really sniffly you guys like i don't know and they were like you're fine it's fine and i was like no that's what that's my recollection maybe it was covid oh we're bringing up old memories I like this

Girl fight Like it was kind of like a We don't know I think we all collectively ignored it Okay that's a fair Okay so you started feeling It was Anna's cat Anna like adopted the cat

And then like six days into having the cat I'm like ready to go to my days into having the cat I'm like ready to go to my friend's wedding in Florida I'm a bridesmaid and I was like do I have COVID like I'm so sick and then I would leave the house for like two hours at a time and like be fine and so secretly then there was like some scary text conversations where I was like I can't live with the cat and then I was, it's me or the cat. It was really dramatic, but I still feel really fucking bad about it.

Then they had the cat put down. You killed the cat? No, I'm kidding. And then Camila murdered the cat. They took it right back to the shelter. It's me or the cat! It's me or the fucking cat! I'll fucking do it! I'll fucking do it!

I'm gonna fuck! I know I'm a fucking cat! I'll fucking do it! I'll fucking do it! I'm gonna fuck! I know I'm a girl, but I'll do this! Yeah, it's completely fine. But it was a little tiff. Well, the cat has been rehomed to Bridget's friend. So how did you deal with all them fighting about the cat? So chill. I just sat there and I said,

sounds like we need to get rid of the cat. And then my co-worker wanted a cat, so I hit him up and I was like, was now a good time? Because the guy has to go tomorrow. Yeah, and he was all about it. He came over, the cat. I still get to see the cat and stuff.

That's good. Were you sad, Anna? I mean, yeah. Did you get a new cat when you moved in with your man? No, I haven't. What the fuck? Get a cat. I don't know.

Maybe he's allergic. Maybe he's secretly allergic. Honestly, it's probably good that we haven't talked about it since it happened. You guys should hug. It just kind of happened. You guys should hug. Let's go. This is what we do.

We bring bands together. They don't really like each other a lot. This is what we do. I know. We should do this with your band. I'm do. We should do this with your fucking band. We should get them on the podcast and just have an intervention. I think that was really it.

There was a few tense moments on tour, maybe. Oh my god, the Banff grocery store. Okay. What was that? Well, so Banff... Okay, Anna was like, hey, you guys, when we... No, no.

I'm saying you were in the right and I was in the wrong. When we were... I was in the wrong with the cat, too. But when we were... Whatever. Okay. When we were...

I love this so fucking much. You guys would love each other. Yeah, that's awesome. I wish every Banff... We love each other. Oh, my God. Bum, bum, bum. Shit.

No, that's how much I hated it. Alright, go. What's Banff mean? So Banff in Canada. It's like a beautiful area. National Park. You've never heard of Banff? No.

It's really cool. All the water is like turquoise. It's really fucking cool. It's like Canada's Rocky Mountain National Forest or something. Except way better. The Canadian Rockies are way better. fucking cool. It's like the Rocky. It's like Canada's Rocky Mountain National Forest or something. All right. I mean, all right. Well, it's way better. Yeah. Canadian Rockies are way better. Yeah. Beautiful water. Just in a Tacoma. Just going

to Banff and shit. Yeah. It was on the way. We're like, we might as well camp. Yeah. We're taking a little side quest of Banff. And so Anna was like, hey, guys, it's going to be fucking freezing in Banff. It's the middle of June. guys, it's going to be fucking freezing in Banff. It's the middle of June. So I was like, okay, I'll bring a sweater. We get there and it's snowing. And I was like, shit. And so we like first did this excursion to get like me a coat and a hat

because I was just like, didn't bring anything. And then we were, this town is just like so packed with tourists and it was so stressful. And we went into the grocery store to get like supplies and we were all just like. And we had been driving like all fucking day and then we got there and it was fucking freezing as fuck. And then we were in the grocery store and then we like didn't really like know what we wanted. There were four of us and we like just like didn't know what food we should get or like anything. It was, it was about. Oh my God. We were just grouchy. We were all very grouchy. And you're probably drinking the night before. just like didn't know what food we should get or like anything it was it was about oh my god we were just grouchy we were all very grouchy right and you're probably drinking the night before

you guys are kind of like drinking the whole time yeah you're on tour hell yeah that's the best first tour there's nothing worrying you don't have to worry about anything everything is like it's like a new adventure because everything's better than before yeah there's no going down at that yeah you don't know what down is. Until your third tour. And then shit gets real. God, I want to be you guys so bad. You guys are just full of joy.

We are full of joy. And it's not going to go away. You should document this. Bad bitches in a Tacoma touring. Cool name. We did document it. We made a reel every day on Instagram. They stay on TikTok. I fucking love you guys. We did document it. Yeah, we made like a reel every day on Instagram of like each day. They stay on TikTok.

I fucking love you guys. We love you too. If you guys ever need my van, you could take it. That's not like the creepy like, hey, take my van. But like, you know, we're moving to a different vehicle. So I have the van here. So if you guys need a van for touring. That's amazing. Hit me up.

It's got bunk beds in it. Bam. Yeah. Let me help you out. Whatever. I got a trailer too. So whatever you guys need a van for touring That's amazing Hit me up It's all you It's got bunk beds in it Yeah Damn Yeah Let me help you out Whatever I got a trailer too So whatever you need Alright give me more about this Barb

Cause I'm I fucking love you guys Thank you I just met you guys through Anna And I fucking love Anna Anna you a bad bitch I love you too This is a whole vibe

So Your parents are rich Harvard Wesley Welcome to the Andy Frasco podcast What they say about you Driving in a Tacoma Going on tour After

You know Spending money You know I've been More or less on my own For a while I don't know I just

Rich is I'd say we're like I went to Harvard Wesley But we also lived in Chatsworth To balance each other out Like they were all about Education and stuff So that's where our money went Because you could have went to Harvard Westlake but we also lived in Chatsworth to balance each other out like they were all about education and stuff so that's where our money went you could have went to High Sierra

yeah yeah I would have gone to Sierra Canyon or I went to Chatsworth Hills Academy and the kids I don't know it's right across the street so we just like we did the education thing

and then when I said I wanted to do music they were like and then I was like, this school works and it worked. And now I just like met my community and they've met all of my friends and they kind of get it. They get my vibe. And I've just been working since college throughout college.

Would you ever move back to LA? Um, no, I would move to, to the Joshua tree area. Yeah. Yeah. Pioneer town. Yeah. Talk about your artist residence. Um, I've been getting into woodworking a lot

and I make like wood art and stuff that I'm trying to sell. And I spent two months in Joshua Tree in August and September with my friend. And just, I fucking loved it. We were in Landers, California. It's amazing. And I fell in love with it.

And I was like, I'd never live in LA, but if I need to take care of my parents one day, I'll just move here and just go stay with them it's for sale now? is there what? it's for sale now? yeah drop the website

I'll drop the website I'm working on it this week yeah not the buying part but the website well this is coming out in like a month oh perfect

yeah I'll drop the website here hell yeah what is it? what is the art? what's the website? bartdesigns.com Look at you. Let's make that

parents proud. Is that the San Francisco public transit? Bart is the San Francisco. Because I'm the same way. I don't think I'd ever want to go back to LA. I was the same with my parents. My parents weren't super wealthy.

They're rich, but compared to LA wealth? Compared to everybody I was around, I didn't feel that. But in retrospect, it's like, yeah, I'm fine. I'm out here in my 2006 Pathfinder, baby. I love that car. Your parents were upper mid.

You have to be upper mid to survive there. Upper middle in LA is just different from where you live. It'd probably be rich here. It'd be rich as shit in Indiana. All right, so shout out to our parents. They're doing good.

How do your parents feel? My parents were fucking pissed until I started making money. My parents are cool as long as I don't come around too much. As long as I don't ask them for shit, they're like, whatever. They're happy that I didn't fucking...

My sisters went to PhD programs and they had to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for that. I went to San Francisco State because I knew I was going to quit. They're like, you did all right. Saved them a lot of money. No problem.

And no wedding. Yeah, and no wedding. What a grand right there. Might be a closet gay. You never know. Might be a closet. What does that even mean? I don't know.

I might be hiding. I might be hiding. I'm just out there. Hi, guys. Wow, barb what about you guys did your parents come up from money um well i grew up in illinois outside of chicago uh my parents were not like really affluent relative to the town that we were in right it's called neighborville which is a very wealthy suburb, but my parents were not. You know Nick Pucci?

No. He was in a hardcore band. A lot of hardcore bands came out of Chicago. Naperville, too. I played in Naperville Community Center. I swear to God. And Elk Grove. It's Humphreys country, bro. You grew up in Humphreys country. The first time I found out, Portillo's is awesome.

Oh, it's coming to Denver. Excited. So Naperville. out Portillo's is awesome. Oh, it's coming to Denver. I know. I said that. Excited. So Naperville. So you're a Chicago kid. Yeah, ish. Yeah. Outside of Chicago. People get really mad if you say you're from Chicago and then you're not.

You're from the suburbs. I hate that. So I just tell people I'm from Illinois and then they think I'm from like, I don't know. Springfield. Yeah, exactly. It's so weird. Because LA, it's like we're from LA, but we're an hour away from downtown. Yeah.

It's like. But the people who live in LA don't get mad at you for saying we're from LA, but we're an hour away from downtown. Yeah. It's like a little different. But the people who live in LA don't get mad at you for saying you're from LA. Fuck no, because no one actually grew up in LA. Yeah, exactly. Fascinating. Fuck it. It's less territorial for sure.

What'd you say? Oh, the 818 is when you're proud. Yeah. Fucking love the 818. Even though I hate everything about it, but I love the 818. It's cool to be from LA. It's cool. It's cool to tell people you cool to be from LA It's way cooler than Indiana

Like cool Do you ever wish you left town? I think about that a lot But I don't I've done a fair amount of traveling My mom's from Sweden Her entire dual citizenship Yeah that's why I'm really tall

Is your mom tall? Yeah my dad's like fully Lithuanian and my mom's fully Swedish. So I'm like down the middle. Chill out on Camila's mom, bro. She's single. Unfortunately, she's been off the market. How's your Swedish?

My Swedish is medium. I'm like conversational. I can't understand Swedish. You can't understand me. I just insulted you. Just kidding. That's Just kidding That's fine That was very anti-Semitic I actually speak Swedish

Wow I hope none of these Can't believe this Jew No I think Lithuanian Is the hardest language Lithuanian is harder than Swedish? It's so hard I can say bean

Which is poopa And that's like about it So why don't you write Why don't you write Some Swedish songs And go to Sweden I've thought about maybe At some point

Writing some Swedish lyrics Trying it out Swedish psych rock Would be fucking Hip as fuck Yeah like you know That band Dungen They're from Sweden

Yeah Fucking sick yeah Why is Why is there so many Like black metal bands Out of Sweden and stuff Cause it's cold all winter And dark probably

Cause they're all like Super pale But like long hair and just like just like kind of like Everybody's hot there. You would love it. They're all hot. I want to go to Sweden. I think you guys would crush in Berlin too.

Like Germany. I think that tour American psych rock is huge in Europe. Maybe the game plan is to try to get out there. We're trying to do Brazil too. Oh my god. I just went to Brazil for seven weeks in the fall. We're opening for this

band from Brazil in a couple weeks called Boogerings. And then I made some friends In Denver? Yeah. That's the Marquee show. Let me find that. What day is that? The 7th of March. We're on the road. Oh, that's so exciting though. We're on the road. Oh, that's so exciting, though. We're going to Philly.

But I made some other friends with Brazilian psych rock people down there and went to some DIY venues and I think it's really feasible for us with those connections and friendships, build a little tour down there. That's a big goal. Music in general.

They should be our band for Ophelia's. That'd be cool. Play two songs. The two song banger set. Two songs that are live. Oh, it's Thursday. You guys work Thursday, right? We'll make it work.

Get off to come jam. Were you on the Ogden show too? Yeah, she went to Vietnam. My dad went there. I've been wanting to go to Vietnam forever. Oh, it was great. Was it cheap? Is it fun?

Oh, yeah, yeah. I bought the tickets like a year ago with my boyfriend and my friend, Kevin. And then the month came up where we were like, oh, my God, we bought these tickets. And once we got there, we didn't know much. Like we did a good amount of research in terms of like understanding the layout and like what we want our route to be. But we just got there and it's so easy to get around and so cheap. You just kind of ask other people what they did,

what they liked. And you just kind of piece together your own adventure. And is Kevin like the forever third wheel with you guys? He just moved. So it's, it's, um, I'd the forever third wheel with you guys? He just moved. I'd say the third wheeling has broken off a little bit. We're back to bicycle. Yeah, we're back to bicycle.

I love it. I love being the third wheel for a couple. You're a pretty good third wheel. I don't cling. I let you guys go have fuck, go fuck, whatever. I'll go watch. Don't do your thing. I'll watch. I let you guys go have fun. Go fuck whatever. I'll go watch. I'm trying to get laid. Don't do your thing. I'll watch. Please let me watch.

I'll watch. Please let me watch. Can I watch? Can I watch? Please, I'll pay you. I'll pay you a lot of money. Let's get a hotel room. I'm the perfect third wheel.

Let's get a hotel room. I'm cool by myself. I'll pay for the hotel room. Are you guys cool by yourself? Can you be alone? Yeah. Yeah. It's important for you guys.

Oh, my God. I got my girlfriend's out of town this week, and I can't wait. Oh, my God. Best. Being alone? Can I for you guys. Oh my God. My girlfriend's out of town this week and I can't wait. Oh my God. Can I manage you guys? Have you ever met Nick's girlfriend? Twice. Is she real? Okay.

You've met her more than twice. Julie's cool. Okay. I didn't believe he had a girlfriend for maybe six, seven months. And then I saw her. I'm like, oh shit. She's fucking beautiful and really cool and really smart. I'm like,

I just knew. She's a real guy. She doesn't like to go out very much. She doesn't drink really. She works at big concerts. She likes books. She likes books and dolls. Anna and Bridget love books. I'm starting to love books. What type of books are you reading?

I'm reading The Pet Cemetery by Stephen King right now. I've read that a couple times. I love Stephen King. Ancillary Justice by Anne Leckie. I'm kind of a sci-fi nerd. Oh, you are? Yeah. I just finished the Rick Rubin book.

I'm reading that one too. Then I passed to Camila. Is it worth it? I read a chapter every morning when I wake up and it sets my tone for my day. I gotta get that book. It's a nice thing to revisit. I think that's all they sell, right?

That's what we should do. We should end the podcast with a chapter. But we should each read a word at a time. I went to get some sandals. Oh my god. I had a great idea. We should make a summer camp. Barb Frasco

band summer camp. It's like school rock. I'm the activities coordinator. We'll do piano lessons. Whatever Nick does. Podcast learning. I'm also planning to do a live, we're going to plan a survivor weekend

where everyone, we're going to plan a survivor weekend where everyone, we're going to invite like a select group of people, 16 people. 16 people. If you guys want to come, it's going to be over two nights. Everyone pays 20 bucks. Um,

and that gets you pizza. Well, not pizza, rice and beans. While you're playing. Oh, like really like just like, like we're,

yeah. And you're camping. The only time you can go inside is if you need to take a shit. Hold on. Hold on. Um, and it's, and it's going to be like survivor, but it's compressed into a weekend and you're camping. The only time you can go inside is if you need to take a shit. Hold on, hold on. And it's going to be like Survivor, but compressed into a weekend. And you're going to get a buff, and you're going to be

sorted into tribes. Bridget and my boyfriend are going to be like the builders and the designers of everything. And then her boyfriend... Yeah, this is... I don't even want to embarrass myself. Yeah, I'm not doing that. Sorry, guys. I'm going to see these hot hipster dudes.

You're like, you got a cigarette? You guys got a cigarette? I'm going to pump a cigarette. Why y'all do that? That could be your strategy, though, man. Just wait until they get tired and then finish the mission. When you're done, do you want to talk about your sex life? Come on, we can talk about mental health.

But that could be part of the summer camp is what I was going to say. Can I go to that? That sounds amazing. Yeah, you should come. I would love to. Well, you get an exclusive invite here and now. I'd love to see you camp. You do not want to see me camp. Same here. It's going to be in someone's backyard. It's not going to be intense. Is it like hotels?

No, it's going to probably be at my parents' house. Sounds fucking awesome. They're like, my parents are really chill. They'll probably participate. Will your dad be out of town for work that weekend or anything? She's a hot tub. When I walk into the house,

can the Swedish national anthem just be blaring? You know. Sing it. I just know happy birthday. We all know it. Everyone. Ja må hon leva. Ja må hon leva. Ja må hon leva ut i hundrade år.

Ja vi ska hon leva. Ja vi ska hon leva. Ja vi ska hon leva ut i hundrade år. Finally an interesting band. This is the best podcast I've ever had. God damn it. You fucking jam bands are so fucking boring. You get it.

You went to state school. No more jam bands. All psych rock bands for now. Boring dudes in jam bands with no personality. I want to make fish. So I tried to be my favorite band. What about creepers? Because you guys are pretty girls

Are there creeper dudes coming on tour? Not coming on tour but kind of like creeping you out Like waiting around by the Tacoma It's like creepy people in general They exist all around us Of course What about like on Shut the fuck up

I didn't say chair I said couch No I said couch You want to hook up with a Swedish me, it's a couch. I didn't say chair. It's a couch. I didn't say just fucking creep ass just talking about. No, I said couch. I said couch. He wants to hook up with a Swedish mom. I'm like, Jesus Christ. That's not creepy.

That's normal as fuck. She's like a seven foot goddess, isn't she? My mom? Yeah. She's 5'8". Fuck yeah. That's pretty tall.

We love Swedish women. We love Swedish women. Saunas, meatballs, great culture. Ikea. Ikea., meatballs, great culture. Oh yeah, dude, Swedish Easter is coming up. The way my family does it is like,

you eat all the Swedish holiday food, which is like cured salmon, pickled herring, all the stuff. But the thing my parents do to this day, I'm 29 years old. I'm 29 years old. I'm still going to keep doing it. But they hide shooters around the yard with

the initial of any of my friends and I who are there and my sister. It's like an Easter egg hunt, but it's like a shooter hunt. Then we go out and find our shooters and then we all get hammered and do shots and sing drinking songs. My family definitely took it

To an extreme of like fun Because we're not really like religious Mid-summer we celebrate every year Before this podcast Podcast fans When this podcast is announced I will be having a GoFundMe For Barbara to go to Sweden

We need to go back to the motherland We're going to do a Europe tour with Barbara Saunas. Meatballs. Tall people. Hot people. Snaps. Snaps with people's initials on them.

Is it ever like, is it far enough north that it's just dark all day there? Yes, but my mom's from the south, so I've never been there. But when we go in the summer, it'll be light out till like 1130. Is your dad hot too? I mean, I don.30. Is your dad hot too? I mean, I don't know. Is your dad hot? I just think like Swedish couples are just hot. My dad's Lithuanian. He walks slower.

My dad's Lithuanian. They're tall too and they're good at basketball. He's really nice. He's a nice guy. I love my parents. Do you know the Lithuanian national... Happy birthday? I got it. Do you guys know this one? Okay.

You don't know the Lithuanian happy birthday? What the fuck? Can you do it with me? So I've sing the first part in one pitch, and then you take over my pitch and just keep doing it. Okay, I'll try. Ready? Il gao su ma tu, il gao su.

Il gao su ma tu, il gao su. Il gao su. Matu. Il gao su. Then it changes. Il gao su. Matu. Link. Matu. Matu. Matu.

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Matu. Matu. Matu. Matu. Matu. Matu. Matu. Matu. Ladies and gentlemen, That's it God damn it I fucking love you girls Culture I had a Lithuanian teacher

In high school He's pretty nice Pretty weird though Ladies and gentlemen We'd like to let you know That it is only 10 a.m. And we aren't on mushrooms We're doing this

Straight sober today Barbara It's been a fucking treat It's been a treat Thanks for being on the show Hell yeah I love you guys Whatever you need from me

Just let me know I could go another hour Doing this I swear to God You want to come back You guys live here So let's do it again I'm going to start a side podcast We love you Thank. Whatever you need from me, just let me know. I could go another hour doing this. I swear to God. You want to come back? You guys live here, so let's do it again. I'm going to start a side podcast. We love you. Thank you for having us.

You're the best. I should take them on tour. We need estrogen in our fucking vibe. Everyone's happy. They're singing birthday songs. This is a vibe we songs. Their biggest fight was I'm allergic to a cat. Can we get the thing

that's making me sick away? They found it at home. That wasn't even a fight. That was just communication. That's what I'm saying. This is what I'm talking about. It made us stronger. It made us stronger. There's no physical violence. We love each other. Just stay off that cocaine. I've never done it.

Don't start now if you're 30. Don't start doing cocaine. Yeah, I'm not planning on it. Fuck it. Actually, maybe there's an argument to start at your 30s. It makes Tor kind of awesome, but then if you do it too much, it makes everyone fucking... Everything in moderation.

Have fun. Do some blow. Fucking take some acid. Cheat on your boyfriends. Everything in moderationfriends Everything in moderation Everything in moderation So Barbara, what's in the future Barbara, are you guys making a new record? What's happening? We have a single coming out

Produced by Jim Eno from Spoon And then also Brie Harris Who's a local musician He has a project called Project Traction Where he works with female and non-binary producers and then they get female fronted or non-binary fronted bands to produce.

So that's coming out in mid-May. And then we're currently in the process of writing and recording the second album. The male jazz nerds are going to bed. Is there pressure to make it better or do you guys still want it to be fun and free? What do you mean?

Like musically? I don't know. Or just kind of doing our thing. Yeah. Because you're still building a fan base so you can basically do whatever the fuck you want. Yeah. As long as it's genuine,

I feel like it's going to be good. And it's mostly just based on intuition and what feels good. Swedish songs. I feel like these new songs came pretty naturally and our sound elevated naturally with it and we're more. Swedish songs. I feel like these new songs came pretty naturally and like our sound elevated naturally with it and we're more excited about it. Now we can actually play our instrument.

Yeah. So like the songwriting is more fun and the jams are more fun. So I feel like naturally it'll be different, but it just kind of felt easy. When we recorded our first album, we were, at least I personally, was like truly holding on for dear life.

Like we had just like kind of written some songs and we're like, let's go record. And we were just like, that's the best. Really trying to figure it out as we're doing it. And you guys are just learning the instrument. Now we can play to a click track. Really?

Yeah. Now we can do that. Yeah. It's clicking. Yeah. I want to hear you play piano. Yeah. It's like you don't play saxophone anymore.

Do you? I play with a band called Pink Lady Monster. Yeah. It's like you don't play saxophone anymore, do you? I play with a band called Pink Lady Monster. She played with my quartet at Nocturne recently, too. You're so busy with the woodworking and this. Yeah, it's definitely secondary. And then I still play trombone. It's actually quite lucrative. The brass band I play with, Gorilla Fanfare.

They're badass, dude. Do you guys gig? How do you gig with 12 fucking people we gig all the time it's like a big party band we play a lot of weddings and shit oh cool

so yeah it's like extremely lucrative especially in the summer it pays my rent no gear really just horns yeah

they have their drummers are cool as fuck too they have like standing drums yeah alright guys go check out Barbara

go Instagram what's your Instagram? It's go underscore Barbara underscore go. Go Barbara, go. But I'm serious. Anything you need from us. If you need help, GoFundMes. I'll help promote it. If you need tours. Security.

Oh, I will fuck some creepy people up for you. Honestly, this is my fucking dream. I'm the creep. I'm the creep. I, that's my job. This is my fucking dream. I'm the creep. I'm the creep. Get out of here, creepy. I'm the creep.

I know how to do it right. Where they still like me. Yeah. I'll stand by the Tacoma. It's kind of true, though. I'm more like Cyril. All right, we're done here. We're done. I'm more like Cyril.

If I keep on talking about this, I'm going to be making my Mason Ramsey interview real creepy. Hey, you're 17. Fuck your teacher. I did, by the way. I haven't told that story in the podcast yet, have I? Barbara, we love you. I like to end the podcast

with one question. When it's all said and done, what do you guys want to be remembered by? I think friendship and love. Just like making people happy. I don't know. I just want to make people happy. What's it like being a good person?

What's it like being a good person? I want to be remembered to be rich and cool and I had a girlfriend way out of my league. I never showed any emotion ever. God, I wish I was European, dude. They just have better morals than us. They're like, let's just

love each other and stick around with each other. Just ignore that we invented the slave trade. Just ignore. We also want to be famous, so listen to our music. Yeah, there we go. That's what I'm talking about. There she is.

What about you, Anna? What do you want to be remembered by? That was a group answer. All right, we're done then. Thank you for being part of the show. Thank you, Andy. Bye. Bye.

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