Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - BONUS EP: World Saving Podcast Live in NYC
Episode Date: May 10, 2024A special BONUS episode in which you, our faithful listener, get to peep some excellent comedy, conversation, and musical cacophony. We love ya! *smooches* And guess what... You can watch full episode...s of our show *exclusively* on Volume.com now in color! Psyched to partner up with our buddies at Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. Call, leave a message, and tell us if you think one can get addicted to mushrooms: (720) 996-2403 Check out our new album!, L'Optimist on all platforms Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out our good friends that help us unwind and sleep easy while on the road and at home: dialedingummies.com Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Arno Bakker
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Hello, New York, and welcome to Sunday Night Live with the World Saving Podcast.
Are we ready to have some fun, everybody?
Please welcome to the stage, your host, Andy Frasco! How you doing, New York City?
Thanks for being here tonight.
Woo!
God damn.
How you doing, New York?
Thanks for being here with us.
Wow. You guys are way more polite than Philadelphia was
Those guys are wild dogs in that fucking city
Tell them what happened
The Nitrous Mafia came to our show last night
And gave me a tank of nitrous
And it was the coolest thing ever actually
Helium We had to say it was the coolest thing ever.
Helium.
We had to say it was helium so we didn't get kicked out of the Fillmore.
But it was just a cool night
and then I did cocaine until about 4 a.m.
and now I'm here.
And then we had to take a train.
Thank you.
Then we had to take a train.
Everyone's like, yeah, cocaine.
Cocaine is expensive in this town.
That's why I did it in Philly.
Cocaine is expensive.
I decided not to do
cocaine in New York
because this shit's
expensive as fuck.
It's like,
but it's actually better
because that's,
you don't know.
Anyway,
how we doing, everyone?
This is like a therapy
session right now.
But we have a big weekend.
We're here for three days,
ladies and gentlemen.
So let's go hang out.
I plan on
drinking. I'm hanging out with
the Jam Band Illuminati at the Rangers game.
Pete Shapiro's taking me to the game.
It's going to be awesome. I heard
Billy Strings is going to be there as well,
so that'll be fun. No, I'm lying about that.
I was just trying to be cool.
The elite Jam Band elite.
Got to say Billy's name at least once
and then you're cool.
Ladies and gentlemen, This is my agent
My booking agent
And this is his first time playing drums in 10 years
John Bongiorno
He's on the drums
Save some pussy for the rest of us
Jesus Christ
I can't believe it
But if you've seen our podcast
We got Nicholas Moyle from Caleb Holly's band.
He's a New Yorker.
This is the first time we're all playing together,
and Sean has created some parodies.
If you watch the podcast, Sean does a lot of parodies.
It's embarrassing.
So it's like anything.
You can sing about drugs.
You can sing about anything.
But usually what happens is songs about things like cum.
Because Andy Fresco.
It's Andy Fresco.
I really do love cum.
It's really a cool thing.
He said it.
That's recorded.
I didn't forget.
Yeah, I think it's weird.
Cum is weird.
Do you want to hear some songs about it?
Like, get it on your hand.
It's weird, you know?
Okay, now that you're in the mood.
There you go.
It's cum day.
Here we go, man.
One, 2, 3
Travis Gray from Wild Adriatic did this one
I'm on cocaine
You're out
Still a Simon
I've been hard for hours
You want to talk science
I'll fuck you if you search me
Please God don't you tell me
That this squirt is just pee
Let's come together
Right now
All over me
Hell yeah
Thank you, Sean.
That was a beautiful fucking song.
It's a living.
It's a living.
I can't believe
they paid to see us
talk about cum songs.
I can't believe
you let me put these songs
on your fucking podcast.
You know what?
You have another song?
You have another cum song?
There's another come song?
This is another come song.
Come on!
Come on boys!
Come!
Come Thank you, Sean.
What a song.
What a beautiful...
I think it's the best one
I've ever done.
You know what?
Fuck it.
Let's do another one.
Yeah, you want one?
Let's do...
What about that song
we did when we had
the Wood Brothers on
and they wouldn't ask?
You mean the last time
the Wood Brothers
were ever on the podcast?
That was the last time
they ever talked to me
after we played.
They were on episode 69
so we're like,
fuck it,
let's do a,
those guys are really
nice boys.
I love that band
but they were like,
let's,
it's a joke.
Let's give them some edge,
you know,
so here's a John Miller
This was the opening,
so.
One,
two,
three.
I got my first real sex swing. I bought it in a five and I This was the opening, so... One, two, three! We fucked real hard The dream is split So we had to get creative Turned her around
And told her not to fall
My face is very hilarious
I thought my love
Would last forever
My dick is staring in her eyes
I'm looking at your vagina
This is the best position
Of my life
Oh yeah
We're finally doing 69
Oh yeah
We're fucking doing 69
Feels so good
We're walking doing 69
Oh yeah
We're fucking through it 69
Wow.
What a poet.
What a fucking artist right there.
Give it up for Shawn Eccles.
Unbelievable.
Thanks for giving me a chance, big guy.
That's Grammy nominated.
Probably will never get a Grammy after all.
We might get sued, actually. Don't tell John.
But I'd like to bring up my co-host
for the show. Please give it up.
From Denver, Colorado, Mr. Nick Gerlach.
Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Mr. Nick Gerlach.
Hello.
Hey, I think Kirk just got an Uber home
after hearing those parodies.
Oh, yeah.
We got the roots here tonight, ladies and gentlemen.
Hell, yeah.
And we got Eric Krasnow.
We got Phil Hanley.
It's a big show tonight.
This is very exciting.
Nick, why did you not tell me not to do cocaine last night?
I did.
I told you to go to bed, too. You don't ever listen to me. I'm turning into your manager. That's how little you not tell me not to do cocaine last night? I did. I told you to go to bed, too.
You don't ever listen to me.
I'm turning into your manager.
That's how little you listen to me.
Speaking of your staff, I have a funny John Bongiorno story.
I don't know if you've heard this yet.
I don't know what happened.
So remember your show in Denver that he came to,
and he may or may not have eaten some mushrooms at it?
Yeah.
He told me that he got so high on mushrooms that at 4 in the morning,
he proposed to his girlfriend
over FaceTime.
Is that true, John?
It is.
That really happened.
I'm going to get divorced over Zoom.
Hold on.
You're going to get divorced over Zoom.
Is that a real story, John?
Hold on. What'd she say?
She said, why are you waking
me up at this time?
Four o'clock in the morning.
I was hanging out with Frasco.
Last time you came, even
on your 50th birthday,
at the Warsaw, you were
ripping nitrous with the fucking nitrous
mafia. Yeah.
Where are they tonight? They're not here?
They're not here. That's a little classier.
I think City Wanderers
are like, get these guys out of here.
I like New York City, but I never feel
fatter or uglier than when I'm here.
Very attractive. A lot of attractive
people here. Yeah, I love it.
What are we going to do tomorrow?
I don't know. It's up to you. You're the guy with all the friends.
I'm down to hang out.
Krasner wants to hang out. We'll go out to dinner. Marcus King's in town
too. Marcus? Yeah.
Is he looking for a horn player right now? Shut the fuck up.
I'm available for hire, people.
But I love it. New York is
always special. I lived in Brooklyn
on and off for five years.
The first time I ever got HPV
actually. You can only get it once,
Andy, and once you get it, it never goes away.
Oh, shit.
Really?
I think this is the 30th time I've told you this.
He also thinks that he got it because someone peed on him.
He has no clue.
Andy has no clue how the human body works.
He's pretty good at mental health, physical health.
He's a fucking train wreck.
Follow your dreams
yeah
to Planned Parenthood
yeah
but it's
yeah
I say we go have some fun
we're staying in Brooklyn
so we should
we should go to the Gibson
we should go
at least have one blackout night
4am
Gibson
if you guys all want to go
to the Gibson afterwards
I know you guys have jobs
we don't have jobs
yeah
they're like
we have
yeah
they paid us to do this.
Yeah.
Wow, that's...
They're like,
my studio apartment
costs seven grand a month.
I have to go to work
in the morning.
We're like,
oh, we're going to do ketamine
at the Gibson.
Yeah, that's right.
But I think we should jam, Nick.
What do you think?
Nick's here.
I want to hear John Bongiorno
on the drum song.
Let's do a boogie.
Let's do a C boogie,
a woogie, boogie, woogie.
What key is C boogie in again?
It's a C.
Okay.
All right.
Give me some love. Well, I know what you do when you're all alone
Do you think of me?
When the baby's asleep, you got nowhere to go
But to think of me
Well, when you're lonely, I want your daddy
Come on, baby Are you tired of waking up all alone?
Do you need a friend?
I'll be the man that you held on to
When you're lonely
I'll put your daddy in
Well, shake it to the left
Shake it to the right
Break that shit down
Every motherfuckin' night, Marjorie
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah
Honey, you're lonely
I was your daddy, yeah
What you got, Sean? Hits! Break it down, break it down
Go, go
Trade off, trade off Train up, train up Hits! Hits!
Let's go to double time! guitar solo Thank you.
Give it up for the band, ladies and gentlemen.
Our agent, first time playing in 10 years.
Don't call it a comeback.
Sorry, I didn't go to the four that one time.
That's on me.
I forgot it's a blues.
So my bad, my bad.
That's so fucking, oh my God.
I can't believe this guy takes care of all my money.
It's unbelievable.
And now he's in my band,
so I don't have to pay him 10% this time.
No, he gets 110%. He gets 110%. Because we ain't making shit tonight.
I think we should start
bringing up our guests.
Let's get them up here.
Dude, let's get Captain Kirk Douglas
from the Roots.
Let's get Captain Kirk up here, ladies and gentlemen.
Woo!
Such a nice guy.
Give it up for Captain Kirk! such a nice guy how you doing Kirk
I'm still recovering from the parodies
I know you're a're a big-time
rock star and you didn't know that I wouldn't say that but I thought maybe
out of here come on Eileen that's not really a parody Oh it was actually went
down like that oh we could get dirty like that but that's that's too low
hanging fruit indeed yeah Kirk how you doing buddy I'm hanging in there I'm
doing pretty good nice to meet all of you. Yeah, give it up for Kirk, ladies and gentlemen.
He's great.
Nicest guy.
You are the nicest guy.
He just rolled in there.
He's like, I don't want to talk to you.
I want to get to know you on stage.
Yeah.
So I had to leave the green room so we didn't actually talk to each other.
We avoided each other at all.
Yeah, you don't want to blow the interview in the green room.
No, no, no.
Leave it all on the stage.
So tell me about your mental health.
Fragile. Fragile.
Fragile.
How do you work so hard?
Your schedule is so crazy with doing
Fallon, doing the show,
and then also touring on the weekends.
Do you ever have time to sleep? You have kids too?
Yeah, I have teenagers.
It's a complicated life.
But I feel very blessed.
I know if the Roots
ever wanted to step down
from that situation,
I know just the band
up here that could take it.
Ah, you guys would crush it.
I really do think so.
Come together.
Don't you think
that they would crush it?
My God.
Dude, Questlove would be stoked
if I played piano.
I definitely see you
on the couch at some point.
I definitely,
I could, I see that in my.
I love it.
Yeah.
Thank you, man.
Don't you think?
That's an honor.
Well, tell me about your family, man.
Do you, do your kids hate you for touring so much?
Nah, man.
I mean, we don't tour as much.
We used to do 250 dates a year, like very much like you did, like you do.
And, but ever since the Tonight Show happened,
ever since Jimmy Fallon's
involvement with us, it's been 15
years off the road heavy like that.
That's amazing, dude.
But from May
till September
every year, it's the Tonight Show
and it's also being on the road
on the weekends and basically whenever we're not
at 30 Rock,
and if Questlove's not doing another movie
or Black Thought's not doing another book
then we're on stage somewhere
in the world. Do you still love it?
Yeah, I definitely still love it. Are you kidding me?
What's the trick to convince
your brain when you're tired to
still love it?
This or unemployment.
I think that'll you know, that's enough to to still love it. This or unemployment.
That's enough to...
It's got to be tough, man.
We've been in a band for 15 years now.
It's our 15 year anniversary.
250 shows a year.
We're still here.
What is that, silver?
Grace to fucking God. That's what we say every time
Every time my ID works
And gets me through the turnstile
At 30 Rock, I say thank God
This is still a thing
Because when we started
I didn't know it would last for as long as
A month or three months
So the fact that it's like 15 years later
And my ID still works there,
it blows my mind.
What was that like when you first got the call
that you're going to be the house man?
Well, I knew that I'd be able,
just sleeping in my own bed
and just like you say,
raising my own children,
not somebody else stepping in to do that.
That was inspiring to do.
But yeah, just to have a normal life you know because by that point
the roots got signed in 93 i joined the band in 03 so the tonight show that started i mean
late night with jimmy fallon that started 09 so you know my wife she's like when i told her that
that was going to happen she was like it just it just sounded too good to be true yeah so when
when they asked you to get the gig with the roots like it's always like weird to have a new
player in the band was there animosity in the beginning or was it just generally just like
it worked out perfectly right timing right place yeah right right time right place i mean i was a
preschool teacher up to that point so like uh you know for six years i taught preschool during the day and
at night i played in like one of like 10 11 different bands and just you know whether it's
a poet whether you know just a singer just some bands uh and i would you know it was at a time
when i didn't need much sleep to function yeah so i was able to do that and um i was kind of
thinking it'd be kind of nice to just play in one band
and after doing that for a while
I was like I think I'm not going to tour the world
or anything like this is going
well but I feel like it's
time to settle down I mean what am I
going to do like join some band start traveling the world or something
so I think it was time to propose to my wife
and time to just settle down
and then like three months after
we got married then i got a
call to to join the roots i you know thought about it's like do i really want to do that and like
leave home and uh and it just turned out to be the right thing to do and just i thought about it
and i thought about like it's just the change of life. And then at some point, when you're a male teacher,
a lot of kids can see you, a lot of parents can see you
and kind of question your motivations and stuff like that.
And I want kids.
I worked at a summer camp.
At some point, you're just like, I think I need to change my life
and I think it's time to just
do music
full time and
yeah
it was time to make that leap
Have you ever gotten into like substance abuse?
Why is that funny?
You guys haven't laughed in 20 minutes Why is that funny?
You guys haven't laughed in 20 minutes.
Have I ever gotten... No, actually.
I mean, actually, I've never...
This is probably really boring,
but I've never tried cocaine.
Let's go. I love that.
Yeah.
Let's go as in let's try it now?
Yeah.
Tell your kids you'll see him in a couple days.
That's why he looks so young and healthy.
Look how hot he is.
It's crazy.
But I mean, but, you know, to your point, though, it's just like I just didn't need, you know, weed.
I never taught preschool high.
Yeah.
You know, I...
That's where I went to high school, preschool high.
Preschool high.
No, I smoked a lot of weed, you know, but, you know, I never I made sure I never did
that like on the job.
And I'm glad now because, you know, having kids, you know, when you're when your dad's
like in the roots and everything and when they grow up going backstage to these concerts,
it's like, how do you like effectively rebel?
Right.
You know, and with the music my son makes this with the content you
know he makes a lot of uh you know auto-tuned hip-hop yeah um for want of a better word and
it just it's just kind of just you know growing up i grew up with nwa i grew up with you know
that was the stuff that was like the contraband that you brought into your house. But now, what he listens to,
we're at a time when
WAP is a
number one song.
You know what I mean?
That's kind of like
the more
pedestrian type of shit.
The stuff that my son...
Every other word is like Percocet.
Every other word is like LSDocet. Every other word is like, you know, it's like a lot
of, you know, LSD, tripping and all that.
So I have to deal with
being a dad and trying to deal with,
you know, trying to like
not be a role model, but
just trying to like explain to them that
just, I mean,
no matter what I say, everything that comes
out of my mouth is going to be filtered
through the mouth of a dad. It's going to sound like I'm Charlie Brown, like wah, wah, wah I say, everything that comes out of my mouth is going to be filtered through the mouth of a dad.
It's going to sound like I'm Charlie Brown, like wah, wah, wah, wah, you know?
So it's hard, but I'm just so glad that I grew up when I grew up.
I'm glad to be this age.
I'm glad that I didn't grow up with social media.
I know I sound like an old man, but I'll take it.
I'll sound like an old man.
But just, you know, when I grew up, there was one television.
It was in the living room
and I didn't have cable.
Now, I'm raising
children that have... You can either
look at cats
doing cute things or you can look at
Bukkake in your
pocket.
That's what kids are growing up with and I have to be the parent
of that. Lucky me.
How do you approach that?
How do I approach it?
I run from it.
I let my wife handle it, ultimately.
No, I mean,
you do your best.
We're all doing our best, man.
And it's...
I really...
I read a lot of... I read The Power of Now
I take my time
my job is to provide a loving environment
and have a lot of patience
but sometimes I have to leave the room
and punch something
but I come back more loving
and
yeah
that's my approach
speaking of punching someone,
I heard a story
about you.
I heard you loan
Prince your guitar. There's something
about this, and what happened there?
What happened there?
I feel my mouth going dry
now, man.
Alright, long story short,
he came on
the show. Not the way you guys would take it. He, he came on the show.
Not the way you guys would take it.
He didn't come on the show.
We're coming all over this fucking show.
Just come on your show.
But he showed up
to play with his band.
His guitar didn't make it to soundcheck.
But my guitar was at the soundcheck, was backstage. They offered
hey, maybe we want to play one of Kirk's guitars
until your guitar gets there.
So he used my guitar for the soundcheck
and later on his guitar arrived
but they sent me pictures of Prince
playing my guitar and
who wouldn't be excited that Prince is
playing your guitar, you know what I mean?
But when it came time for the show
he did his first song with his guitar.
Oh, no, no. This is what happened.
Right before the show happened,
the music booker came up to me,
the music booker for Late Night with Jimmy Fallon
came up to me and said,
Prince wants to use your guitar for the show
and he wants to buy it from you.
And I said, well,
I was like, well, Prince can totally use the guitar,
but he can't
buy it from me it's not for sale yeah you know and um so my guitar left me and then it came back
and then i guess all right so he's not interested um so he did the first song uh with his guitar
and then at the second song he actually came up to me and he's like yo can i see that other guitar
and like a prince fan i was like yeah sure you know So he went and did the song Bambi and played amazingly.
And then I thought he was going to play behind his head
for the end of it, but he didn't go to play behind his head.
He just tossed the guitar in the air
and it went crashing to the ground.
Oh, my God.
Are you kidding?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that's like one of your idols?
You like Prince?
Who doesn't love Prince?
Yeah, you don't do weird stuff.
My opinions have changed somewhat.
But you hear enough interviews with people that were close to him.
Stories like that are there.
And you hear a lot about his childhood.
And this is something he's been known to do at jam sessions. you know, stories like that are there, you know, and you hear a lot about his childhood and, you know,
this is something he's been known to do at jam sessions.
It's just the first time he ever did that
on like public television before, you know,
so that was different.
But at the end, he, you know,
they came up to me like,
Prince wants to talk to you.
And I was like, well, yeah,
I'd like to talk to Prince.
Yeah, yeah.
I got something I'd like to talk to him about and um so we went to where he was mixing it and um the music was loud you know they were mixing the performance that they just did but he apologized
and um i had the guitar in like two pieces and uh you know we're walking out i was like all right
well you broke it do you think you can at least sign it? And he's like, oh, I haven't signed anything
since the 70s.
Damn. He's consistent.
Are you kidding me?
Not kidding at all.
Did you not fight that little man? I want to beat him up.
His security guards are tall.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Massive refrigerator-like.
But he did wire a substantial sum of money
to my account.
The days have followed, uh i think i would rather have that and the story i'm telling you now yeah
exactly let's go but that guitar is actually it's it's uh it was at the the uh uh play it loud
exhibit at the met uh that took place and it's currently at the Cleveland Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
and I'm trying to get it back.
I'm ready to have it back.
Man, that's amazing, man.
There's so many stories of just being on
Tonight Show, being on with
Fallon. Is Fallon as nice as
everyone thinks he is?
Have you heard any
stories saying otherwise?
No, I just want to know.
You live with him.
I'm a crazy ass person. This guy knows.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's cool. I'm a little strung out sometimes.
I mean, don't we all.
He's great.
I'll say he's ten times,
not ten times, but he's significantly funnier than you see him on the show.
What you see on the show, there's some spontaneity,
but hanging out with that guy,
he's old school by now, old school SNL.
So there's a certain madness that exists
with somebody that's done that show,
that's had that schedule, that's been in those walls.
And that's still very much with him in a good way.
Yeah, and the work ethic is inspiring.
That man works very hard.
All you guys work extremely hard.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's still an honor to be on that show,
still an honor to play with The Roots,
playing with that band.
It's like a university in and of itself.
And just being at 30 Rock, it's like a university in and of itself. And just being at 30 Rock, that's like a university for the band
and just being in the band.
It's a university for, you know, all parties involved.
You know, you're always learning.
Do you have time to like write your own music or?
Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely.
I mean, all the shit that you see and just the things you go through,
you have to find a channel for for that i mean you
know our our life on the show is you know playing walk-ons for people and bump-ins and outs of
commercials and you're there's all this inspiration around you you know so that definitely uh leads
you you just you want to participate in that uh creative process and you want to do that for yourself.
And the things I experienced,
like having teenagers and just,
that's, you want to put that into music, you know?
So yeah, melodies come to my head all the time.
You want to put music to it.
And yeah, it's such a creative environment
that's got to spill into
your
personal life.
Into creative life.
You are the nicest man on the planet.
You never hurt anyone?
Never fought anyone?
Like I say, I leave the room and I punch
a wall. That's real.
You got to do that sometimes.
I'm honored to have you in do that yeah sometimes you know um well
i'm honored to have you in our presence thank you so much give it up for captain kirk douglas
kirk i got i got one last question for you i'd like to end this you know it's like when it's
all said and done uh what do you want to be remembered by what do i want to be remembered by
yeah i mean you know how it is it's like you die and like people
go into like oh you know inspecting like what this person did i mean that's that's another reason why
you do music not to be like all heavy and deep but like at some point we're all gonna leave this
earth and just like you're going to be remembered by like what you love doing.
Like everybody's sitting here, no matter what you do, like what you love doing. Like when people cannot hang out with you anymore, it's like, what's the closest, like
what would you be, what would you be doing with that person if they were around?
So that's, you know, going back to the music I make, I make it, I have a band, 100 Watt
Heart.
And, you know, I record music at home,
and I'd like to be remembered for that.
But you said I'm a nice, like, just every interaction I have,
you want them to, you want to leave the person feeling better.
You want to treat other people the way you want to be treated.
And, like, leave people with a good feeling, I guess.
Let's go, Kurt. That's all I'm talking about.
Oh, yeah.
What a great dude. Kurt, we got one
last thing we want to do with you. Nick has prepared
some trivia for you.
He actually answered one of them during his interview. That's how good
of an interview he is.
It was a question about what song Prince was playing
when he destroyed your guitar.
That's a song I'll never forget.
I know. That was a good question to think of, though.
You gotta give me that.
Good question.
I just wanted a little validation.
You know Prince had an album named Come, right?
Exactly. That's true.
I just thought it was worth mentioning.
Okay.
I'll start with the second question.
On February 17, 2014,
the premiere of The Tonight Show
starring Jimmy Fallon aired.
Will Smith was the first guest.
What band was the musical guest
on the premiere episode of The Tonight Show?
Here's your options.
It's multiple choice.
You don't have to...
I mean, I know with the band.
Okay, good.
With the band, it was you two.
There you go.
He got it right.
Is Bono a dick?
There's got to be some mean people
in the music industry.
Spill the beans, Kirk. There's only 40 people here.
Let's do this.
The cameras are on, bro.
Did I mean something?
Shut off the cameras, take it off the record,
and I'll give you all the dirt, bro.
Yo, fuck, turn it off.
Turn off the cameras. Let's off the record, and I'll give you all the dirt, bro. Yo, fuck, turn it off. Turn off the cameras.
Let's get dirty up in here.
Okay.
One more question. This is a guitar,
a Gibson SG question. We know you love the Gibson SG.
A very underrated guitar.
It's one of my favorite guitars.
It's been playing some of the most important guitars
in history, including you.
It's probably why you have your own signature model.
What was the first year the Gibson
SG was made?
Do you want multiple choice?
I'll take multiple choice.
A. 1970.
B. 1965.
C. 1924.
Or D. 1961.
61.
Boom! He got it.
Let's go!
I knew you'd nail those.
He's just crushing this thing right now.
That's it.
There's only two.
He already answered the one during that.
Let's go!
Yeah, the other one was...
Challenge me!
Yeah, yeah.
The other one was,
what was the song Prince was playing?
He answered it in the interview.
It was Bambi.
Well, thank God.
Well, Kirk,
I'm so glad that I live in an existence
where you're around,
and thank you for inspiring me.
Same, man.
This is a great way to discover
of your existence.
Nice to meet you.
Give it up for Kirk.
Thanks for being on the show, Kirk.
Thank you.
Unbelievable.
You're the man.
Look at that man.
That is a beautiful man.
That's just a better person than me right there.
He's got it.
You know when you meet people and you're like,
that guy's better than me.
Yeah. If we walk in a room, I don't exist, and he does.
He looks 29 years old. He looks amazing.
Wow.
Long life.
Long life. He had kids when he was 13.
You had to do the math on that show.
I had to do the math quicker.
Ladies and gentlemen, let's bring up our next guest.
Comedian, New York, Phil Hanley. Ladies and gentlemen let's bring up our next guest comedian new york phil hanley ladies and gentlemen give it up for phil
hello phil how you doing give it up for ph Hanley, ladies and gentlemen. I'm good.
Phil, have you ever punched anyone?
I've done.
I was high on cocaine.
Hell yeah.
But yeah, it's pretty wild out there, Phil.
What's comedy life going on out there in New York?
New York is great for comedy.
Yeah.
Yes.
It's the new Austin.
Yeah, what's the deal?
Why is all the comedians moving to Austin?
What's the deal?
I think comics that are in a different tax bracket than myself move there for taxes, I think.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Everyone lives there now.
It's pretty wild.
Being a comedian seems extremely lonely.
I don't...
Because you're traveling by yourself
you're always on the road
by yourself
you're staying in these
like
do they still have
those weird comedians
I wanted to be a musician
yeah
I was in a band
I'm sure you know
of them called
The Badass Adores
and it's true
thank you
yeah it is a great
yeah The Badass Adores
I like it
yeah
you were a little reluctant
to give a positive
alright
well but then now as I get older, I feel like, isn't it hard to travel with a bunch of dudes?
No offense.
I never thought that until I met your band.
But no, isn't that, I see as a comedian, you can just move.
You know what I mean?
So now when I move in a group, it feels like weird.
I like to cry in front of people.
Yeah.
I'll cry in front of Sean a lot.
I'm like, fuck.
Stand up is about crying by yourself.
It can be lonely, but it's fun.
You get to tell jokes.
What inspires
you to keep going?
Wow. I feel like you know something about my career that I don't know.
Yeah, no, it's like, it is like music in the sense you do, you continue, the more you do it, you just continue to get better.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's unbelievable.
Like you're a big, you're big into the Grateful Dead.
I love the Grateful Dead.
What do you love about the dead?
first off I know there's going to be dead trivia and I'm really nervous
I'm dyslexic
I did bad I was in special ed all through school
and I've never done well on a test
so I hope I do
get on the test
I'm worried about the drummer
oh okay I looked over
I didn't know you were reading something
I just talked about being dyslexic
and I looked over, you were reading something.
I thought it was rude.
No, I was listening to your beats
because you said you hadn't played drums in a long time.
I couldn't, 10 years.
You're fucking fantastic.
Let's go, give it up for John.
You should have heard him 10 years ago.
Unbelievable. Wow, that was really loud.
He was in a metal band.
He had a record deal, right, John?
What was the name of the band?
Fierce Nipples.
Oh, okay. Cool. Wow, that's really no bad acidores.
Yeah, it's not as good as yours.
What was your question?
I'm sorry, Andy.
I was talking about Grateful Dead.
What do you have about the Grateful Dead? Why is it so important to your question? I'm sorry, Andy. I was talking about Grateful Dead. What do you have about the Grateful Dead?
Why is it so important to your life?
It's among the most important.
I listen to it constantly.
I listen to it while I write.
And then I try to...
I love just the fact that they jump off
and then they can just go anywhere
and then they come back and land it.
Do you approach that with how you create your sets?
In a sense, absolutely, yeah.
I like to keep the jokes tight
but the show super loose.
Do you ever just go out there
without knowing what the fuck you're going to do
like the dead do?
No.
Well, the dead knew they were going to do their songs.
Yeah.
They had an inkling.
So in a sense, yeah, I go out,
I know I'm going to open, right?
I open with Bertha.
And then, yeah, you know?
And then I know I'm going to do
Scarlet Fire and then Drums in Space.
No, but yeah, but then in between,
like I riff with the crowd.
You know what I mean?
I don't know if you were here
for that little number I did with the drummer.
But that's just a taste of the shit you get at a Phil Hanley show.
What's your approach on crowd work?
I do a lot of crowd work because I feel like that's when you don't know.
To me, that's the jamming part.
And in the sense, at dead shows, it's so much the crowd contributes so much.
Right.
Has any time when crowd work has gone wrong? at dead shows is so much the crowd contributes so much. Right. You know, it has a,
any time when crowd work has gone wrong?
Uh,
no.
Cause you can always find something.
The only time that it can go wrong is if someone wants to be,
cause I do,
I've posted a lot of crowd work.
So sometimes people come now to expect that.
And if someone is there to talk,
like they think that they have something funny to say,
which no one does.
So yeah, like if you come with like an answer
and you're like, this is it.
And you're like, oh, fuck dude.
You ruined everyone's night.
There was a dude, this is what happened to me.
This was a scary moment.
I was playing, I was in San Francisco,
which is like my favorite uh place to play and
besides uh city winery in new york and um i was i was playing and there was a dude at the show and
he was in the front and i walked out and i immediately knew oh this dude wants to be part
of it he was wearing a yellow uh like cowboy shirt like but like the like albus before he passed style
you know what i mean like not like a rancher you know what i mean like like very like kind of um
like sequinian shit and i ignored him the whole show and then at the end i was like all right dude
this is your chance and he jumped to his feet i was so right he jumped to his feet and raised his
arms like that was all he wanted was to be acknowledged.
So if someone wants to contribute,
I try to avoid that.
But if someone just innocently, you know what I mean?
That's got to be nerve-wracking.
Have you ever
picked on someone doing crowd work
and then you got in a fight with them?
I try to be...
I mean, I'm really here to
make friends. You know what I mean
friends and lovers damn everyone's too fucking nice
no I'm just
you had some greatness
I'll joke around with someone but I like to think
that they know that I'm just joking but I did
in St. Louis right
birthplace of blues
I
a woman rushed the stage my rule is
I try to be nice sir you know rule is I try to be nice.
Sir, you know that.
And I try to be nice but then if someone heckles me
before I take the microphone out, then I'm not
as kind. And a man
did that. I said something to him to shut
him down and then there was like a
shadow in my peripheral vision and his
wife rushed the stage.
Yes. Yes. A woman got on stage. I don the stage yes yes a woman got on stage i don't see gender but
a woman got on a woman got on stage and she was like seething like she was gonna punch me yes yes
and uh and then i had to be like hey you know i didn't know what to do and i was like ah uh because
you know they didn't train us that in comedy college and i was like finally i was like, ah, because, you know, they didn't train us that in comedy college.
And I was like, finally, I was like, you know, if I worked here, I think I would get her off the stage.
So they got her off the stage finally and sat her down.
And then they put her right in the front row again.
And I was like, yeah, we can't.
You know what I mean?
I can't do that.
Anyway, long story short, that's how I got PVH.
What's it called?
HPV, sorry.
Thank you.
We all have our stories.
One in three, Phil, one in three.
This is what happens, and I don't have
HPV. I don't have that.
No? No.
It's always the last place you look.
I don't have it, but I find
that people that do, and I know that, Andy, you said you it, but I find that people that do,
and I know that, Andy, you said you did,
and I find that people that do claim that everyone has it.
Yeah.
But as someone who doesn't,
and I have a fair amount
of unprotected sex,
yeah, I don't have it.
So, I don't know. Just putting that out there, girls.
Not everybody's garbage.
No HPV.
Yeah.
Well, thank God.
It's an honor that at least one of us
on this stage doesn't have HPV.
But I will say something.
I think it's beautiful
that you're willing to,
you know what I mean?
I think it's beautiful
that you revealed that
because I feel like
there could be someone here
in the audience tonight
and they're thinking,
who should I go home with? Phil or Andy? You know what I mean? And I feel like it's be someone here in the audience tonight and they're thinking, who should I go home with? Phil or Andy?
You know what I mean? And I feel like
it's kind of obvious choice now.
One of them is diseased and one is
not.
And I overcame a lot in my life,
Andy. I had a learning disability.
Yep.
You know what I mean?
Speaking of a learning
disability, you wrote a book about it. I did. You wrote a book about it
I did, I wrote a book
It's about dyslexia
I hope that's what it's about
Nothing, it's from the act
How are you two gentlemen up front?
Good, okay
Your body language is mediocre
I wrote a book, sir
I'm dyslexic and I wrote a
memoir.
Tell us about it.
I'm going to write another one about
narcolepsy.
Hand it out to the crowd.
Yeah, so
I wrote it. It starts
as a kid.
I was in kindergarten. It went very well. And then I went
to first grade and things kind of, you know, it's a downward spiral,
Sean.
Yeah.
And then so the book is about dyslexia, but it's about the positive part of dyslexia.
Because if I wasn't dyslexic, I probably would have gone to college or just had a regular,
you know what I mean?
Regular life.
I'd probably have HPV.
You know what I mean?
Fucking all those bookworms.
Yeah, brother. Welcome to the club. HPV. You know what I mean? Fucking all those bookworms.
Welcome to the club.
Because of my learning disability, girls, you heard that I don't have
HPV.
I was able to do comedy. I wouldn't be here tonight.
We wouldn't be friends because I would have just stayed
in Canada. And you know what I mean?
And now we have this beautiful friendship.
I met Phil on my podcast
last year.
I'm so fascinated with your theory of Grateful Dead and comedy.
And Todd Glass is one of my heroes.
And give it up for Todd Glass as well.
Yeah.
It's funny that you ask.
All I want to talk about is the Grateful Dead.
And then when you have a microphone, you feel on the spot.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Also, Bob Weir has dyslexia.
Yeah. And when I found that out when I was a kid that meant a lot to me. Because when you're a kid
and you have a learning disability, they're always like Tom Cruise
has dyslexia. And you're like, oh, he's fucking
being Top Gun.
You don't really. But when I heard
Bob Weir, I was like, oh, fuck. Here's like a
fucking dude. You know what I mean?
And his approach to music and stuff like that,
to me, I'm like,
wow, that's the creativity
of someone with dyslexia
because dyslexics are,
you know, creative
and passionate,
you know, in the bedroom.
And...
Have you ever, like,
when you're singing
the Dead songs,
do you ever fuck it up?
Oh, no,
but sometimes Bobby
misses lyrics.
Yeah, that's always...
That was another lesson as a young
dyslexic boy, right, girls?
Just a young dyslexic boy
with a beard.
No, I would see
Bobby make those mistakes and they were
so celebrated, you know what I mean?
That meant a lot to me.
I love it.
Phil, he's the sweetest man. He's such a sweet boy he's a good boy this is what i when you were you were talking
to kurt yeah right and he was but you're the way you are that's how people should be because you're
so friendly and giving and you don't have any like pretend pretension about you that's what i was
thinking today because we've only met once
but you texted me.
Please, I'm in the middle of something.
But you...
When you texted me
you were like, I can't wait to give you a hug.
I was like, I'm actually stoked to give you a hug too.
But we had never hugged before.
Let's get the fucking hug out, baby.
Aww.
Aww. I love you, yeah. Come here. Aw. Aw.
I love you, Phil.
I love you.
I love you, too.
And you're...
Andy, you're so loved
among comedians.
Really?
Yes.
I appreciate that.
I know Gary Goldman,
who's one of the greats,
loves you and myself.
I'd also put myself
in that category.
So, yeah.
How are you two over there?
Example of the crowd work
you were talking about.
Grateful Dead style crowd work.
Before we get to trivia,
I want to know who you think
has the bigger penis.
Bob Weir or Jerry?
Oh, wow.
I, it feels...
Rest in peace, Jerry.
I, I can't even,
to me,
I don't even want to
speculate.
I hold them both up in such high regard you know what i mean yo i've have you seen bobby in those short shorts you see the cock dude um
it looks like a grapefruit i'm more i'm into the dead for the music oh okay um no i i you know what
i i yeah i would have to ponder that.
Are you Googling it?
I'm trying to look it up.
I'm trying to see.
It's about the same, I guess.
It's about the same.
Look up Bob Weir Cock.
No, please.
I'm not going to do that, actually.
Digital footprint is real.
No, God.
I can get emotional.
You know what really gets me emotional? On a Sunday, Jerry Garcia band, God, I get, I can get emotional. You know, it really gets me emotional on a Sunday.
Jerry Garcia band.
Oh yeah.
Oh, honest.
You just listen to that.
Yeah.
Oh my good Lord.
Girls.
That's like the perfect hangover music.
It is.
Do you drink or anything?
No, I have.
I've done a lot of narcotics too.
Thank God.
Tell me all about it.
Well, I started
taking acid at a young age
because when you have a learning disability,
and I felt really dirty
because I took acid, and when I was
growing up, it was before all the
really bad drugs
that are out now. Not that I judge anyone
because, Sean, you were saying about fentanyl earlier.
Really? Not a lot a lot no but yeah no i
uh no because it's so scary but when i was growing up acid was like the worst thing you could do in
my hometown and i did it and i always felt like super dirty about it and then i uh went to a
therapist who ultimately started asking me questions about life girls can you believe that
no sex questions i went to a sex therapist
and then they were like, you...
They had a lot of questions for me, though.
Oral.
But...
No.
No, but I felt...
Why are you diverting eye contact?
Phallus, right?
We're going to put a coffee for table one.
No, so I did... and then i always felt like
dirty because i did take a lot of acid at a really young age yeah 13 and uh yes i also lost my
virginity when i was 13 it was a big yeah i did acid and mastered sex really i so um yeah so i
took and then i always felt dirty and then i talked to a therapist and he was like you needed
because you were so like it's it was such a struggle in school you needed such like just drinking or whatever
13 year olds do legos that uh you needed a bigger like a more of a release and lsd really is that
release yeah and then when you get older and you do uh other drugs like if you try cocaine, which I would recommend to you two.
If you do cocaine, then you realize
everything is half-assed compared to LSD.
Don't you think?
Because you take, like even if you take
Molly, which
I think that could help you a little bit.
If you take
Molly, you feel it come up
and then you're like,
oh, this is going to be great.
I'm going to be tripped out.
And then you're not, really.
Nothing is as good as LSD.
And then I say this because I have a lot of young fans,
and I say to them, I say, I did drugs young
because I was cool for my age.
And I really think...
What about mushrooms?
Like mushrooms?
I do.
When I, growing up where I'm from,
Oshawa, Ontario,
you couldn't get,
mushrooms were so difficult to get at the time.
Yeah.
So I'm more of a LSD.
Like I think acid is a real thing.
And I don't really even do drugs.
I go to dead shows not on drugs,
as far as you guys know.
Really?
Yeah.
And I can, no,
I can go to a dead show completely sober.
Really?
Yeah, because I've listened to the music so much being not sober
that I could get like, oh, this would have been wild
if I was tripped out or whatever.
You know what I mean?
Interesting.
Did you ever get to see Jerry?
When I was a kid, yeah, I got to see Jerry.
What do you remember of it?
I remember, you can't even,
and I sound like such a fucking hopeless head,
but you can't even put your finger on what he was doing compared to what every other person on the planet that's playing music is doing.
It was just a whole other fucking thing.
I remember having my eyes closed, dancing.
I'm a great dancer.
You two will see.
I'm a phenomenal dancer.
How are you?
And I remember having my eyes closed
and the crowd goes,
fuck it, ape shit.
And I said to my friend,
what happened?
He goes, oh, Jerry lifted his leg.
Like, there's this whole band going on
and Bobby is such...
What's happening?
Really, sir?
Yeah, he would lift his leg.
And when you think about what's going down
on stage at a dead show, two drummers,
right? Keyboard player, bass player,
Bobby, who's a beautiful human being,
right?
Hell yeah.
I think Bobby's so fucking hot.
He's beautiful. He's a penis, apparently.
He's in his Marty McFly years
right now. He's kind of got the fucking chops back. He is. He's in his Marty McFly years right now.
He's kind of got the fucking chops.
Oh, he looks... Back to the future.
He looks so good.
Yeah, he's hot.
But you could not look away from Jerry.
It would be on every fucking note.
And like a joke,
the tension he would create and then release.
And then they would start a tune.
You're like, okay, I like this tune.
And then Jerry would just fucking Jerry the shit out of the song. And song and then it would end and every song you were bummed that it ended
really and when i saw him it was in the era where he would like like sir when you like say like so
many roads for example where he would just repeat the chorus over and over again and it would cut
you deeper and deeper and deeper and deep it was really, especially if you were on hallucinogenics,
which I was indulging at the time.
It was the only thing that I can compare it to.
This is the only podcast
that would let me go on about this for this long.
It was almost like,
not that it was sexual,
but that part of your brain
when you're having sex
and everything else is like slipped away.
You're just focused on pleasing the women
that you're just focused on pleasing the the women that you're with um
that was the part that the dead ignited they fucking ignited that in your brain so everything
else dissipated you were just on the note that jerry was and of course you needed the the band
to like get them there too they were very important too but jerry garcia you can't even
sir would you agree with me exactly right let's go even trey sorry there's about 10 minutes more to this even
trey said that the only time that he got lift off like that was from uh was garcia and then he said
uh he also got her at a frank zappa show but gar Garcia was absolutely fucking liftoff.
It was such a spiritual experience.
What's your take on John Mayer?
Well, I love...
Well, it's so hard to talk about anyone
after that review.
Right, exactly.
No, I am blown away.
I am blown away. I go to Dead & Co. shows. I am blown away i go to dead and co shows i am blown
away i did saw the last three shows in san francisco and it was like oh this is next level
shit and they were doing jams and stuff like that i'm like this is completely new it's a completely
new thing and um what mayor has added to the band because i don't think they could have got someone
else with that skill level and also part to seeing the dead like I went to Rat Dog
and all this stuff a million times it was amazing
but the celebration of a dead show
is when there's so many people there
and so many different walks of life and Mare brought
in so many new people and they could
play these big venues that feel as
monumental as it was
when Jerry was on so
when Jerry was there so I salute
John Mare I think he's doing a phenomenal job the one thing I think Bob when Jerry was on. So when Jerry was there. So I salute John Mayer.
I think he's doing a phenomenal job.
Yeah.
The one thing I think, Bob,
we should sing Brown Eyed Women.
But that's my, that's, you know what I mean?
I'll die on that hill.
I just think, yeah.
Who do you think is going to take Mayer's place?
I don't think, I think they're going to do,
I hope, no, like I'm like,
I can't adjust to another guitar player it's the same thing
with in relation
I'm just like
I'm you know what I mean
whoever I wake up with tomorrow
that's it
I'm just
this is the last one
two tables have to decide
I uh
yeah I got an inside source
about who might be doing that
oh really
I didn't think
there was gonna be
I didn't think
there was gonna be anyone
cause I thought they would just do weekends so Mare is just out of the band I thought they were just gonna do I don't think there was going to be I didn't think there was going to be anyone because I thought they would just do weekends
so Mare is just out of the band?
I don't want to do a world saving exclusive
at the City Winery
I will tell you something though
I love that John Mare is in the band
and I love what he's contributed
and I think it's the hardest shoes
it's like whoever's got to follow me on this podcast
it's like
good luck Crasno
but no what
I would say though also
Warren Haynes was fucking amazing in the dead
did you see Warren
oh my god
the soul
yeah the soul
Warren Haynes playing Ship of Fools
just bring an absolute tear to your eye
and he's a great singer.
I mean, he's an amazing singer.
So amazing singer, amazing guitar player.
Soul, he's a soul man.
Yep.
That guy has a cock, too.
I've seen it.
Oh, I don't know.
You know what I mean?
I never really.
No, we hung out.
We hung out.
He was in his underwear.
Remember that in Amsterdam?
No, we played.
We sat.
He was just like. This sounds like a real story. No, it's a real story. A real story, yeah No, we played. We sat. He was just like...
This sounds like a real story.
No, it's a real story.
The bulge was amazing.
Oh, really?
You were checking out his haids.
I look at everyone's dick. I don't know why.
I have such a small dick.
I just
appreciate a good dick.
You have a small penis?
I mean, it grows,
but when I look at it in the mirror,
it's not that tight.
Can you see the HPV on it?
No.
It's smaller than the HPV.
You guys did all those sex jokes.
At the beginning,
I didn't know what to admit,
and then you guys did all those jokes about semen.
Well, you know, we've been hanging out in a van for too long.
Yes.
See, that's why I think as you get older, there is an upside of being by yourself as a stand-up.
Yeah.
Because you know what I mean?
It's just you and...
Your thoughts.
Yeah.
I want that someone's rushing to the stage.
He's like, how dare you talk about
Ward's dick like that?
Phil, you've been amazing.
We got some trivia for you.
Oh, I'm so nervous.
I've never.
The dad is the only thing
that I'm qualified
to answer correctly,
but I'm so nervous.
You're going to be
giving some almond brothers.
You're going to be
handsome either way.
So it's going to be working.
I appreciate you saying that.
I feel so bad
I don't have HPV by the way
I'm addressing everybody
But the way you were sitting
It was hard to see you
It's fine
Okay
I live in the shadows
What is the drummer reading?
What are you reading?
The old testament
What is that?
He's reading contracts
We're about to book a tour next week
Oh really?
Keep reading John
Keep reading
I got to get that
John you did You did such a nice job
On the drums I know I mentioned that earlier
But I want to stress that
You know how many times John
Had to take out if someone's like
We're docking Frasco's pay
If he takes drugs on stage
How many times has that happened John
It's happened a few times
So you would take drugs during a performance
People throw mushrooms on the stage
and I'll just eat them.
Really?
Has anyone thrown a dose on the stage?
Yeah, I don't fuck with that.
I won't do the dosage.
I'll just do mushrooms
and I'll do...
There was a point
where the stage wasn't as high
and there were just yellow pills, blue pills, pink pills, everything. And these guys... There was a point when the stage wasn't as high,
and there were just yellow pills, blue pills, pink pills, everything.
And these guys... It was like Dr. Mario.
It's gotten way better.
It's like when I was Mario, and then I turned into Wario.
How does it affect the show if you're on mushrooms?
I mean, I don't feel them because I take them every day.
Oh, okay.
But I also,
I think adrenaline
is an amazing thing.
Like, I don't really feel high
until I'm off stage
because there's so much adrenaline
going into my body.
It's wild.
But like, I've had one time
where...
Portland, Maine,
you had like a sash on
and you were like...
I was like,
we got to hold this shit
on the road, boys.
This motherfucker's out. out oh that's great
it was like day four
of the tour too
I'm wearing a passion
yeah
it's crazy
all in
wow
my mom's like
what the fuck
is happening to you
looking right through
yeah my mom
she's like a nice
little Jewish lady
from Los Angeles
and she's never done
drugs in her life
and I talk about
everything on this podcast
yeah
and she's like finally getting to know me and i talk about everything on this podcast yeah and she's
like finally getting to know me now oh really yeah so you had sex with your teacher i'm like
you had sex with your teacher i did when i was a senior in high school oh whoa what fuck yeah
i love older women shout out to all my what subjects what subject english oh shit okay
miss crocker health well are you allowed to my show last year sean remember she came out to my What subject? English. Oh, shit. Okay. Miss Crocker. Health. Miss Crocker.
She came out to my show.
Sean, remember she came out to my show?
Wait, are you allowed to say her name?
Yeah, Heidi Crocker.
Fuck it.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
She's awesome.
Hello.
She's a bad bitch.
She is really a bad bitch.
How old?
Is that illegal?
I was 18.
She was 37.
Oh, okay.
Whoa.
How did you parlay that?
I was working at Capitol Records
and I faked my age, so I had to
work, I had to find
a teacher's room
that I could make all my phone calls in
during lunch and nutrition
because I told everyone I was 20 years old
during school.
So I would just work every day
and just book bands during school so like i would just work every day and just like book
bands during lunch and stuff and she was hot as fuck i was like let's i'm just gonna kick it in
here and i started like just flirting with her because i used to beat off to like milf porn and
stuff so i just had like confidence to like just talk to older women yeah yeah and uh well it was
fucking awesome she taught me a lot about myself.
That.
Wow.
What'd she say at the show?
Oh, she said this.
She's like,
I haven't seen her in like 15 years,
18 years.
And she came out to our show
at the Troubadour.
She's like,
I always knew you'd be a star.
Ew!
No, that's crazy.
Ew!
Ew!
I'm like,
hell yeah, Heidi.
Wait, I thought she had sex with you.
Yeah, we had sex in my car.
She still thought you were going to be a star?
That's why she said that.
I knew you were going to make up for that small penis somehow.
That's phenomenal.
Yeah, I was pretty stoked about it.
Yeah, I love that story.
What's it called? Hard.
That's actually how I got HPV.
No, I'm just kidding.
She's like, I've been here, boy. Get over here.
It's like Scorpion in Mortal Kombat.
Come over here.
Anyway, let's go back to trivia before I get
fired from doing a podcast.
That's a great story.
Here's the first Grateful Dead question.
In April 27, the Grateful Dead
released a live recording of a full concert
in 1966.
It was in Vancouver.
What is the name of the venue
where this live album took place
in Vancouver? This is a hard one.
No, okay, so I'm going to talk...
It's changed names, so you gotta...
I'm going to talk this out like...
Oh, the venue's not the same name?
I'm going to talk in 1974
on May 17th.
Here we go.
They played the PNC.
That is correct.
Oh, my God.
You got it right.
Yeah.
P&E.
P&E.
But I was going to talk it back.
Okay, keep talking it out then.
Sorry.
No, that was okay.
I thought that was your guess. No, no. No, because I knew they played there, so I was going to guess that was the same venue. Well, you got itE. But I was going to talk it back. Okay, keep talking it out then. Sorry. No, that was okay. I thought that was your guess.
No, no.
No, because I knew they played there,
so I was going to guess that was the same venue.
Well, you got it right.
All right.
Thank you.
Good to know.
Good reason.
You two don't look...
Okay.
We're not going to stomp Phil.
I think he knows everything about the band.
You try to look...
I know, but that's fun.
I want to make him look good.
Okay.
Thank you.
That was a great guess.
That was a great question
because that's my hometown.
Yeah. Yeah. That whole tour is fucking
phenomenal.
Who was the keyboardist during that run?
So 1974.
So that would be Keith Gottschalk.
Wow. God damn it.
Number two. St. Stephen has to be
one of the only Grateful Dead songs named after
a Catholic saint.
What is St. Stephen the patron saint of?
A. Trustafarians, B. LSD,
C. The Unemployed,
or D. Masons and Bricklayers?
First off, the first C,
A, C, and B are
mean.
Well, yeah.
Is he
Saint Stephen? I like to think of...
They have a song called Saint of Circumstance.
And I feel like that's poetic.
Don't you think?
A saint of circumstance.
Romantic.
Girls?
Have you two been enjoying the show?
Oh, God.
Okay.
This is a bad time to tell him that's her dad?
Okay, so I assume that Masons.
Yeah, you got it right.
It's Masons and bricklayers.
I'm surprised that that's in the Bible.
Yeah, it is.
Okay.
I don't know anything about the Bible.
Well, it's not in the Bible.
The saints are after the Bible.
They made a bunch of stuff up.
Number three.
When I hear saint, I assume it was in the Bible. Well, Mother Teresa's a saint, and she's not in the Bible. Well, it's not the Bible. The saints are after the Bible. They made a bunch of stuff up. Number three. When I hear saint, I assume
it was in the Bible. Well, Mother
Teresa's a saint and she's not in the Bible.
Oh, okay. Cool. Wow. One of us is a little
confrontational.
I told you not to talk
shit with our guests. I'm not.
He got it right.
In the late 90s, a Grateful Dead
fan discovered a new species
of an insect and named it after
Jerry Garcia.
Oh, Jesus.
This is a really hard one.
What kind of insect did he discover?
A, a beetle.
B, ant.
C, housefly.
D, bumblebee.
Bert Kreischer.
Bert Kreischer.
E.
Oh, this is so hard.
I know.
This is a hard one.
Can you do it again?
Do the choices.
Beetle, ant, bumblebee.
That's it.
Just a picture between those three.
Beetle, ant, bumblebee.
I think this is a little familiar.
I think I've heard this before.
Is it a beetle?
That is correct.
Okay.
What a genius.
Phil Hanley.
That's the hardest trivia I've done for a guest.
Give him a hand.
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for being on the show.
Before you leave, you have tour dates.
I want you to tell
everyone where you're playing, who you're going with.
Really? I felt like I was on so long, if you guys don't mind.
Alright.
I'm in Buffalo, March 22nd, 23.
One of my favorite Grateful Dead shows is played in Buffalo, March, May 9th, 1977.
Wow.
I think it's, I enjoy it more than the Cornell show.
San Francisco, March 26th.
Sacramento, March 28th and 30th. And St. Louis, March 26th. Sacramento, March 28th and 30th.
And St. Louis, April 4th.
And then I'm touring for the next year, so I'm all over the country.
So go see Phil Hanley.
Thank you guys so much.
Unbelievable.
We love you, Phil.
You're the man, brother.
You're the fucking man.
Ladies and gentlemen, Phil Hanley.
Wow.
He's also a great Instagram follow.
He's got great clips and stuff getting on his Instagram.
Ladies and gentlemen, the headliner of the night,
our best friend.
He's produced a few of our songs.
Please give it up for Mr. Eric Krasno,
ladies and gentlemen.
Eric Krasno.
Where you at?
Eric Krasnow, baby!
Damn!
The king of New York!
Hey!
What's up, big dog?
What's up, dog?
Give it up for Eric Krasnow, ladies and gentlemen.
Damn.
Yeah.
Hey, what's up, everybody?
Another man who just aged so well.
I was just about to say that.
You're so fucking hot, dude.
You're a hot dude, Kras.
Wow.
Thank you for saying that,
because I really wasn't feeling hot back there.
How's it going, buddy?
I'm good, man.
I'm really good.
What are you doing in New York?
I just texted you a couple days ago.
So I did this benefit concert called Love Rocks.
Has anyone heard of that?
It's pretty cool, man.
Who's on it?
Dave Grohl.
Dave Grohl?
And the Black Keys and Marcus King.
Some of our buddies.
Quinn Sullivan.
What's that vibe like?
Is it like everyone's cool?
Is it kind of pretentious?
You know who's the coolest motherfucker on the planet?
It's Dave fucking Grohl.
Is he cool?
I was like hoping he'd be as cool as I wanted him to be.
And he was like 10 times cooler.
Really?
We sang Bohemian Rhapsody at four in the morning.
And he held me in his arms.
Are you for real?
I swear to God.
There's a video of it.
I posted it already, actually.
Of me, him, and the guy who sang it.
We did Bohemian Rhapsody. And posted it already actually of me, him, and the guy who signed. We did Bohemian
Rhapsody. And for anyone that's a musician
knows that you should not attempt
to do that song.
But we had like this 25 piece
band with singers and horns. And the
guy wanted to do it. This guy got Luke Spiller
from the Struts. But Dave Grohl's on the
side of stage singing it like...
Anyway, but he was... Dave Grohl
was fucking amazing. But the whole show was great, and then
the last two nights, I played with my
trio at the Iridium
in town, and had like a real reunion,
and Marcus sat in, some other fun.
How's it feel to be back
in New York? I mean, you lived here for so long,
has it changed? Has the city changed since you've
been here, Krazy? I just got older.
You know what I mean? I just stress,
I get stressed, but you know what? I love it. I love visiting. I don't know. I just got older. You know what I mean? I just stress. I get stressed. But you know what?
I love it.
I love visiting.
I don't know if I could live here.
I have a kid now.
And I know we've been talking so much about kids on this.
This is so not rock and roll.
I know.
We talk about kids.
So I'm trying to talk about dudes' dicks.
You're trying to balance it out.
Yeah.
Well, my son loves to show everyone his dick.
So it just so happens.
Hell yeah.
I probably won't go there. Line has been hit no but um you know what i fucking miss it dude i miss it i was walking
around today my niece i just talk about how old i am my niece it just is going to columbia now and
i walked up there and walked around with her and i was just like you know she's she you know got
such a full life ahead of her and i I was just like running around like, oh,
so much. And I had so much fun here.
It's the greatest fucking city in the world.
I'm going to say it. It really is.
All week, everyone
that all in all my rehearsals in the band
and stuff, because I lived in New York my whole life
until five years ago.
And everyone makes fun of me for living in L.A.
But you know what? Fuck them. It's sunny.
It's nice. And I wake up every day and it's sunnyA. But you know what? Fuck them. It's sunny. It's nice.
And I wake up every day and it's sunny out.
But I miss it.
Luckily, I get to spend a lot of time here.
What's the difference between L.A. and New York?
Now that you've lived in both places for a while.
Oh, it's so different.
It's so different.
I mean, like, you know, in L.A., you can do one thing a day.
You know what I mean?
And that thing's probably getting canceled by somebody.
Yeah.
And so in New York, you can do like 20 fucking things. You know what I mean? And that thing's probably getting canceled by somebody. Yeah. And so in New York, you can do like 20 fucking things.
Fucking things.
You know?
And I also say fuck a lot more when I'm in New York, apparently.
Everyone's all passive aggressive in LA.
They're not passive aggressive in New York.
No.
They'll tell you exactly how to fuck.
I love that.
I love, honestly, anyone.
It's just that I, you know, I hit my 40s and I had a kid.
And I was like, okay, I got to go to California now.
Yeah.
But it's the best city in the world.
There's more culture here than anywhere.
There's more music.
Right.
Like LA is great for making money.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like the film industry, the producing records,
all that kind of stuff.
But New York, you go out every night,
there's music everywhere
all the time
it's
when you were here
it was a little more wild
right?
I would say so
like what was going on
back then?
like what type of shit
were you into?
so anybody in this room
I don't know if anyone's
old enough to have been
to the wetlands
has anybody heard
of the wetlands?
okay
so we had the wetlands
I mean I would go there
every night
just because it was like I knew Shappy
Pete Shapiro and I knew the Hodor guys
And every night there was some
Cool collaboration going on
And then Brooklyn Bowl did
Even though there was like a decade between
But the Brooklyn Bowl did kind of pick that up
You know what I mean
I don't know that it's still going the way that it was
When it first opened but when the Brooklyn Bowl first opened
I lived right down the street, too. So I was there
all the time. And, you know,
Soul Live would play like two weeks and have guests
every night. And we still, you know, hopefully we'll do
that again someday. But it's
that scene, it does feel a little
different. And I don't know if it's post-pandemic
or if it's... Yeah, it seems like Brooklyn
Bowl kind of is, it's
doesn't have the lusters. That it was. Yeah.
Well, also, you know what happened
is they put up all those condos everywhere
and it's just a different vibe
in that area. I lived in Greenpoint
for almost,
in that general area, for 20 years.
Yeah. And when I first moved there
it was like nothing. There was like one cafe
and now it's like there's high rises
and all. It's a totally different vibe.
I think of it like that metal band that played at Denny's.
Yeah.
Suck, Denny's!
What's up, Starbucks?
How you doing?
We're so live!
Totally, totally, totally.
Cupcake store.
Yeah, so it's different.
You know what, though?
LA is getting cooler, or maybe I'm just getting used to it.
There's a lot of people making really cool music there right now.
Highland Park is kind of like the new Greenpoint Williamsburg.
I've been finding my pockets.
But LA is so spread out that it takes forever to find anything.
And also nobody wants to do anything because it's so nice out.
You're like, oh, yeah, I could go over there.
And then you look at your watch and you look at the traffic
and you look outside and you're like, oh, I could sit right here.
And everyone's a stoner. Yeah know like yeah man the vibes are great man
what's your dad just won a grammy man everything's tight man but the funny thing is i used to make
fun of everybody with the had that la vibe because i'd be like man everyone's canceling everything
but now that i live there i'm doing it too you know because i'm like dude it is nice
But now that I live there, I'm fucking doing it too.
Because I'm like, dude, it is nice out. I could just chill right here.
Oh, they're right.
So it's just different.
New York, you're motivated here.
That was the thing too.
I felt like I walked faster.
My brain was moving faster when I was in New York.
When I was living in LA, it was just like,
I had work ethic, but it wasn't like,
right when you got on the streets,
my brain was like, let's get the fucking work.
Yeah.
It has that energy here.
It's different.
It's different.
I love it.
So how long have you been doing that event with like Grohl and that?
It's eight years.
This was the eighth year.
So what is it for?
Is it a benefit?
Yeah.
So it's for an organization called God's Love We Deliver that basically feeds people that
are sick is the short way to say it.
But they do like millions of meals every year. We've raised
$30 million over eight years.
Let's fucking go. I love that.
Let's go.
It feeds New Yorkers in all
five boroughs, like thousands.
I don't have the numbers in front of me, but thousands of people
every day gives them
two or three meals a day.
It's based on their illness. If they have diabetes,
they get a certain meal.
It's all curated.
It's unbelievable, man.
It's so cool that you're doing that.
Eight years strong, too.
Everyone involved in that, it's got to be beautiful.
Do you take a cut off that, Bon Jovi?
Do you get a little 10% off?
He gets the meals. Of course he does.
He gets some of the food.
He doesn't get the money.
Give me the money.
It's called music business.
It's pretty wild, man.
For you to come back and keep playing music out here,
it's just inspiring, bro.
Now you're becoming such an amazing
producer. I know how much you
love producing now. Like, what's the difference
in your mind state between Kras, the
songwriter, versus Kras now,
Grammy winner? You won a Grammy, ladies and gentlemen.
Whoa.
Thank you, thank you. So, I mean,
I, you know, producing is, it is
a totally different thing. I mean, one is you can
do it from home. You know, I live at, so it's like the, cause I honestly, if I could be up here and do this
every night and not have to travel all the fucking time, it's like, you know, that's,
so part of it is that, but I've always, like I went, when I went to school and I was like
figuring out what I wanted to do, I was going to be a producer. That was like, what I always
wanted to do is make records and write songs. And I kind of randomly ended up in the band Soul Live.
And that just totally took a different turn than I thought I was going to do.
So to be honest, that was like my path.
I always thought that's what I was going to do.
But I loved playing guitar and I loved playing live.
And then that became what I did.
But I always was producing on the side.
But now, you know, it's just been trying to make it the opposite, where I can
do the other, produce more,
and then go do shows more of when I want
to versus have to.
Take the fucking power back, Kras.
This is your life.
You don't need to be living in a van anymore, baby.
I saw that Tesla. You don't need that anymore.
You don't need that anymore, baby.
I got the Tesla life.
No more vans.
No more vans for me.
Well, I'm honored to
just share
your existence as well, bro.
We've been writing some great songs together.
I'm fucking proud of this guy.
I'll tell you what,
we were just talking about it because
me and Kirk, the last time Kirk and I played together
was in St. Louis doing the Chuck Berry
tribute, and then I came to your gig.
Do you remember this?
Yeah.
And I had never seen these guys play.
And my mind was completely blown.
And then you guys called me out on stage and threw whiskey on my head and shit.
And I was like, yeah.
And I was like, wait, what just happened?
I was like, what just happened?
We take our shit real seriously.
But that was like in a bar, basically,
but it was fucking packed.
People were going crazy.
And then fast forward
till we played that festival in Chicory.
We were just talking about that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Big what?
Who was what?
Just talking about.
Chicory Hills.
And I opened for you guys.
I was playing my trio.
And when they went on,
there was freaking thousands of people out there
singing every word to these songs,
and I shed a little tear.
I love you, Crash.
We're moving on.
I was so proud.
I was like, man, these guys are doing it,
and just doing it in a really positive way.
Your songs are uplifting.
They're real.
They say real shit.
You know, you're a funny guy, but you're actually a sensitive guy. you're actually you're sensitive I am you know I mean and I hear that in
the music you're vulnerable you're vulnerable man
kiss me on the back I love it I love it let's give it up for Frasco and the UN guys thank you guys thank you um
Kraz how about we do one of our songs then how you want to do a song with us come on Kraz
do I just sit right here? No, get on top
Get comfortable, Krazy
Let's do none of those things
By the way, thank you so much for being here
for us, ladies and gentlemen
This is great, it's our first podcast tour
This is a way different experience
in Philadelphia, and I appreciate it
It was like
It was a bunch of wild dogs
You guys were listening.
And thank you so much for letting us do these interviews here.
I really appreciate it.
Last night was more of a wrestling match than a polite bunch.
Yeah.
And give it up for Todd Glass, our opener.
He's on tour with us.
Todd, take a bow, Todd.
Nicholas Boyle on the bass.
Yeah, take a bow, Todd.
Take a bow, Todd.
Give it up, Todd.
You want to sing this song with us? I'll watch. Hey, take a bow, Todd. Take a bow, Todd. Give it up, Todd. You want to sing this song with us?
I'll watch.
Okay, you'll watch.
And then my agent, the best agent on the planet,
Jon Bonjorno.
He's out of retirement to play with us.
Let's play some songs, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm firing my agent, by the way,
because my agent should be playing drums in my band.
This is fucked up.
Why can't my agent play drums?
Jon Bon fucking Jorno. And he's got the most agent name ever, dude. be playing drums in my band. This is fucked up. Why can't my agent play drums? John Bon
fucking Giorno. And he's got the most agent
name ever, dude. I get an email
from John Bon Giorno. Someone gets there, I'm like,
fuck yeah, that's my dog. That's my bulldog.
Alright. If you mess with him, he's gonna
send Fat Tony to get you.
You don't want John's
rage email. I've seen it.
I can't find my jacket.
Don't worry.
We'll get out of here soon, Tal. We'll go to Brooklyn.
We'll go to the Gibson and black out.
Okay. Ready?
Oh, we're in F.
One, two, three.
One.
Never thought I'd wake up to my own dreams Yeah, I'm finally seeing what it is to be free
I'm tired of waking up, feeling bad about myself
For a life I lead for somebody else
It's not about the money, cars, even the plane It's about how you feel without all those things Cause happiness is gonna keep us
free. It's not about the
money, cars
None of those things
Break it down!
Break it down, break it down
I've been waiting for this moment
Krazy and Eccles, do some stuff together
Come on
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Give it up for the guitar players, ladies and gentlemen.
Wow!
Hey, Nicholas, you want to shred one?
No. Wow! Hey Nicholas, you want to shred one? Thank you. Okay, Nick!
That's my co-host, Nick Gerlach, ladies and gentlemen.
Now, boys, I want you to make love to each other.
I want you to go get on that couch.
No, don't do that.
You got a big dick.
I know that, Sean.
I've seen it.
A lot of dick talk tonight.
I apologize.
It's Sunday.
You know, I'm hungover. Sit on that couch with him i want three dudes one couch it's all about gum and play some melodies together boys
do something break it down all the way johnny ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത� សូវាប់ពីបានប់ពីបានប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពី I'm going to go ahead and get back to work. guitar solo God damn it
Give it up for these guys ladies
And unbelievable musicians
You know
It's not about the money
Or the fancy cars
Or the penis size.
It's about how you feel inside.
Do you agree, ladies and gentlemen, New York?
Good.
You got to love yourself every day.
Doesn't matter if life is hard.
No, even Mr. Happy gets fucking sad all the time.
You just got to know that tomorrow's going to be better
and it's not about all that other shit.
That's just distractions.
We got to love ourselves again.
So thank you so much for being here for us,
ladies and gentlemen.
I appreciate it.
Thanks for letting all my friends talk.
We love it.
Take it to the chorus, boys.
Let's go.
It's not about the money,
cars, even the plane. the chorus boys, let's go! It's not about the money, the Grandma, Todd Glass, Sean Nichols,
Big Boy,
and our fucking agent,
John Paggiorno.
Thank you so much
for being here with us.
Have a good night,
ladies and gentlemen.
Andy,
I found my jacket.
Later, guys.
We'll see you at the Gibson.
Nice.
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