Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - Brothers Comatose - Injuries, throwing up in bars and surviving tour

Episode Date: May 19, 2026

The Brothers Comatose join Andy for one of the wildest hangs yet, from sleeping in the woods after a tree branch punctured an eyeball, to puking mid-set at punk bars in San Francisco, to surviving the Bandwagon death trap on tour. The crew talks bluegrass revival, viral success with "Harvest Moon," touring with kids, Appalachia ghost stories, Mexico surf life, social media strategy, and how they somehow still like each other after years of living in vans together. Plus: ninja-star karate instructors, BYOB Pennsylvania strip clubs, Sawtooth Festival chaos, and why hiring a Gen Z mandolin player might've saved the band online. This one feels like sitting backstage at 2AM with a cooler full of PBR. 🍻

I saw your van and says martial arts in the back. We took martial arts together. That's really cool. Yeah, we did judo and karate. We had this guy, Sensei, Gus Johnson, who had, like, this dojo in his backyard. Dude, he was so sketchy now that I think back to it. Like, he had this, like, van that was painted yellow with ninjas, like, painted, like, his kid did it or something like that. Super sketchy.

That's so fucking. I heard he got busted for, like, selling alcohol to minors, like, years late. You don't say, Sense. I get, say Gus. He always told us he had Gus Johnson. Yeah. His name's Gus Johnson? Yeah, he was like a middle-aged black dude.

And he was like, he taught us, he had like nunchucks and like throwing stuff, like ninja stars and stuff, which is totally illegal in California. And I'm like, this is the coolest shit ever. We were 12, I guess. I don't know. Wow. Everyone's Sepatico in this band besides me. Because I did drugs until 5 a.m. Hey, guys, brothers, comatose.

How we doing today? Oh, great. How's it going? Great. Oh, my God. So let's go, let's do like a roll call. Everyone tell me your names, tell me your birth date, and tell me what you like to do on first dates. Here we go.

Let's start with you. Oh, man. My name is Ben Morrison, June 25th, 1980. I haven't had a first date in a long time. I don't even know what I would do anymore. What do you do? I don't know. I haven't had a date in a long time.

Good to see you, Ben. You too. I'm Addie, April 5, 2002. and a first date. I know, I'm the baby. First date, run his card up, man. Run his car up. I'm going to clap to that.

That's pretty good. Thank you. My name is Alex birthday, January 6, 1988 82. Okay. I like a nice walk through the woods on a first date.

Ooh. Yeah. Yes, Northern California man, I can tell. Exactly. Okay. Hey, I'm Steve. What's my birthday? Fuck.

625. Oh, he's been a birthday. Yeah. Different year, 1973. You guys have the same birthday? Yeah. Is that like, do you like sharing a birthday? Oh, it's cool.

Oh, we always play shows, yeah. It's the best. Oh, it's the best. You make money and you could celebrate each other. Yeah, we're going to be in Kentucky this year at Romp. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. On the day.

On the day. What's the craziest birthday you guys had? Oh, man. Sawtooth is pretty fun. That was my first show. Somebody gave me some sparkle that were supposed to be just a little sparkle, and then turned out to not be a sparkle. Like keeping a real.

It was wrong. Do you guys like take, do you guys take a listeners before shows? Is that like an after? Do you guys party after shows? After. Good. Me too. Yeah, I don't know.

I can't, like, I'll forget words. Yeah. Which is pretty bad because I got to sing a lot of words. Yeah, and like your songs, the lyrics are, your fans really dive into the lyrics. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, we're more of a beer band. Beer band.

Yeah. More so, yeah. Who are all your homies? Like San Francisco are like Craigie and stuff? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

He's up in Portland, but we've known Craigie for years and years and years. Sam Chase. Sam Chase. Yeah. Good people. Brothers, A.J. Lee. Frouition? Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Provision. California honey drops. Oh, yeah. There's San Francisco, too, huh? Mm-hmm. Yeah. East Bay.

Oakland, yeah. Ola. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I got this one. Philip, March 27, 84. Philip Elton Joan. Bizzina. And my sunglasses broke, so, and I don't know.

I poked a tree branch through my eye years ago, and so I'd, like, I just like to things dim. That's probably why. Hold on. Really? Is this real? Yeah. It was like, what happened?

Tell me the story. I was, when we were in high school, we were, like, climbing those radio towers, like, super high radio towers, and we could see the cops coming from real far away. So we all bailed down the radio tower, and we, like, took off through the woods. This is central Pennsylvania. And at the time, like, mini-discs were the jam. Yeah. And so, like, I'm running from the cops, so I'm, of course, putting.

a soundtrack in while I'm doing it because it was fun. But you have to hold the minidus so it doesn't skip. So I'm running through the woods holding a mini-disc, and instead of put my arm up like this, I just went, bam, right into a tree branch. And it like, like, tortured, yeah. So would you go to the hospital? What happened? What did they say?

Well, I didn't go to the hospital. I was kicked out of my house. And it was like January, so I slept in the woods. And my eye just started getting like mushyer and mushier. Yeah. And then the next day, I, like, had a neighbor that was a eye doctor. and he was like, we're driving. He's like, get in the car now, and we drove two hours to, like, a proper hospital,

and it was like surgery right away. Hold on. So you live in the woods or what? I grew up in Pennsylvania. Oh, Pennsylvania. That's what you did back in PA. So why did you get kicked out of your house? Because I had a motorcycle that my parents weren't down.

You were a rebel. Nah, just a boy. I like that. He's also the most injured in the band by a lot. Name your injuries. What are the worst injuries you've had? Oh, bro. Broken neck?

Yeah, broke my neck surfing a couple years ago. So, yeah, shattered my ankle several years back, jumping off something. And, yeah, I told these guys recently, back in PA, flew off the roof of a car, like off a cliff, had the car roll off the cliff and land on me. Hold on, what? You're like a fucking cat, dude. You got like nine lives.

Yeah, it's kind of freaky. They're getting low, I think. Yeah, I got stung by a man of war like a week ago. Hold on. I was being stupid, though. Now you're good, Steve Irwin on to me. now. I've just heard this term that, like, there's two types of people.

There's through time people thinkers and in-time thinkers. And through-time, like, kind of consider consequences. I think about what's, what's the long game? And there's certain people that are just making decisions in time. And Phil's definitely in-time. Oh, my God. Definitely in time. Yeah.

So as president of our United States is too. You're like the Rodman of the band, dude. No, slow in down, man. Slow and down. Well, I don't know. So tell me how this band started. Nice to meet you guys. I'm Andy.

Hey, I love your band. I mean, we hung out a few times, but I fucking love your band. And I think what you're doing on social media is fucking awesome. And I think you're one of the most creative bands out there online. So whoever is fucking doing that. Thank you so much. I have a feeling it's her because I see your social media too. Argenzi edition.

A little gangster, a little 2002 or a little 2002. So tell me how this band started. Tell me the brothers. I want to hear the relationship with the brothers, because this is very important to me. how do you even stay in a band as being brothers? Like that's one of the things that got to be tough of a lot of bands who are brothers,

you know, Black Crows, Oasis, they all fucking hate each other. How do you still love each other? Yeah, Louvin brothers and stuff. How do we do it? I don't know. I think personality is kind of meshes. Yeah, and I think if we ever get, like,

you know each other, we just kind of like walk away and like. Yeah. Although we share a room every night. Yeah, I mean, it's gotten easier over time. You don't go to be mad. Yeah Cuddle time You guys share

Hotel rooms every night Yeah Cool Yeah We used to fight a lot In high school And like grade school But we kind of like

Cool down What would be the fights about Dumb shit man It's just the brother stuff You know He farted on my head one time Oh yeah Yeah

Yeah I went and kick the hole In my door It was a buildup Of many farts in my face Oh my god I mean just brother shit I'm the older brother

So yeah That's where that started You ever feel You ever feel like you had to protect him No, not really I saw your van It says martial arts in the back We took martial arts together

That's pretty cool Yeah We did judo and karate We had this guy Sensei Gus Johnson Who had like this Dojo in his backyard Dude he's so

It was so sketchy Now that I think back to it Like he had this like van That was painted yellow With ninjas Like his kid did it Or something like that Super sketchy

That's so fucking I heard he got busted For like selling alcohol to minors like years late. You don't say Sense I get, Sunsay Gus. He always told us he had Gus Johnson.

Yeah, this old... His name's Gus Johnson? Yeah, he was like a middle-aged black dude and he was like, he taught us, he had like nunchucks and like throwing stuff, like ninja stars and stuff, which is totally illegal in California. And I'm like, this is the coolest shit ever.

We were 12, I guess. I don't know. What did you guys do when you first said, I got ninja stars? Yeah. We never got any. We just used them there. I think, but

try to go to Chinatown looking for him, but never found them. It's like that scene in Elizabethtown, he's like, I want to see some shit blow up. That's crazy. So you guys, tell me about your relationship with your parents. Like,

you seem like you guys are good kids. What's your relationship like with them? How did they teach you a lot? Or was it hard? Or what was life as a kid? Pretty good. Yeah. They're pretty easy going, folks.

We had a lot of musician friends when we were growing up and they had, like, jam sessions at our house when we're coming up. So we kind of grew up like to surrounded by people singing harmonies and and her music guitars. I mean, our mom was like 21 when she had us or something like or had me.

And then yeah, so they were, they were always like chill and supportive and stuff like that. Can we quote your mom, the ultimate quote of all time? Oh my God. Yes, please. Yeah.

Their parents also helped like take care of my kids when they were little. So they're the chillest, awesome folks. But one time her mom, or their mom said to, me or the group was like, oh, yeah, babies. Yeah, they feel a lot better going in than they do coming out. Dude, what a bad thing.

She's a fucking legend, dude. That sums up, though, dude. That thumbs it up. Man, another quick mom quote. When we were, like, smoking weed, she caught us one day. And she comes in and she's just, like, shocked. Like, she had no idea we were smoking weed or whatever. And then she just, like, couldn't talk about it.

Then a couple weeks later, she's like, I need some weed. Do you guys have any weed? I'm like, yeah, I got some weed. I brought it to her, and we were in the living room, and she was, like, about to light it up. I'm like, should we go outside? And she's like, what, are you afraid your mom's going to smell it or something like that?

And, I mean, yeah, she's, they're like the cool parents that everybody wants to hang. They're, like, cooler than us, you know what I mean? Did it come after the show still? Oh, yeah. Yeah. They're always watching, yeah. And they're watching our kids now all the time, so not as much. Do you all have kids?

Uh, just no, three of us. Yeah, three of us. Wow. This is crazy. So she's basically grandma. Yeah, probably.

Yeah, big time. I mean, she would watch his, he was the first to have kids and she would like go stay at his house over the weekend and just watch. So how did you all meet? Have you guys been in the set band together for the whole time?

No. Three of us. Yeah, the three of us. So Alex and I started like just playing kind of, I mean, so you went to school in San Francisco. Yeah, as of state. Did you ever play any of those, like, open mics around town?

Oh, fuck, yeah. Ireland, 32. Ireland's 32. Hotel Utah. Yeah. Hotel Utah. There was like, I mean, so yeah, we started just the two of us and then some other friends coming in. Then Gio, our old bass player joined.

We went to high school together and kind of put it together, put like one of those things around town, like the, like the binder paper with like the pole tabs at the bottom, like looking for fiddle player and put it up at the conservatory music. in San Francisco and then he answered it. So did you go to a school for music? He did. You did? You went to San Francisco Conservatory? Yeah, for grad school. Holy shit, you're really smart.

The guy that flies off the roof of cars. No, you're just dangerous. You're still smart. You can still be smart and dangerous. I'm a little dangerous. But then we've gone through a bunch of different bass players and mandolin players. And then Steve, we found a few years,

back, well, he was in a band with my wife and the T-sisters. And we, like, needed somebody at the time. And he jumped in and were like, oh, my God, this makes so much sense. Like, we've always got, like, been really good friends. And that just made sense. And, what, like, two years ago, our Manilin player was, like, had a bunch of gigs he needed to sub out. So we called Addy. And then when he left abruptly, Addy jumped in and took over.

And it's been awesome. Abruptly. I think some people. just aren't like road people. Yeah, I totally agree. Yeah, man, it's just like... It's our life. You have to be... You have to love...

This whole touring thing, you have to love the other 20 hours that you're not on stage. Yeah. Or it's just gonna fucking eat you up. Yeah, dude, I mean, the lack of sleep and like drinking too much and waking up hungover and just like doing it over and over and over again. And waking up with a good attitude

to get in the van is so important to you. You can't fucking have a shitty attitude at 10 a.m. when everyone's strung out. Then you're the asshole. Yeah. Then you're not dangerous. You're just being,

and a asshole. Bring the whole thing down, you know. Yeah. That's good. You found Addy, this is great. She's been killing the social media, and she's a killer musician. Yeah.

I've been watching all your stuff. You're a badass. Thank you. Before we talk about, like, this era of the band, I want to talk about the trio. What was the first song you guys wrote together? You felt like, damn, is a good song.

Man. Do we write any songs going? I guess? We were all, like, did tops of the trees, like, in the same room, right? We're all kind of like in the living room. Yeah, that happened in the living room of the Hate Street house. And you had his house on Hade Street? On hate.

That was the, that was the era, bro. Yeah. All right, give me this whole era. Give me this era. You want to talk about drugs. I want to hear all that era, dude. Yeah, in early, I think it was like 2001. I moved into this house on Hade Street right above Cold Steel Tattoo Parlor.

Oh, my God. You know, like maybe two doors down from, uh, escaping your pizza. Yeah. And then I was there with a couple, you know, some random guys who were awesome. And then they all moved out and we just like, let's keep this house going. And like got all over our friends moving. How much was rent then? Dude, it was, uh, it was 2001.

I think it was like, man, $2,100 for a five bedroom flat. Oh, my God. And then, dude, get this. When we moved out, we like looked at all these other places. And we couldn't find anything cooler than that. called the landlord. I'm like, look, we'll move right back in if you can lower the rent to $1,800. And she did. And so then we hung for like four bedrooms and a living room or five bedroom flat. That seems so fucking cheap. I know. It's insane, man. Yeah. How much you think that pad is now?

8,000? Oh, man. Something like that. Yeah. Because they, like, they kicked us out eventually and they refurbished it and stuff. They're like, fuck. But like, it's cycled through all of our friends. I moved out. Wow. And then eventually I moved back in and like it was, and Phil just lived down the street and you know, where like band practice was like, you know, a bunch of weed and a 24 pack or something like that. Okay, so you guys weren't making any money. What were you doing to survive and surviving and affording this hate street house? Were you guys gigging or were you guys working? Working.

I worked at a art barks that like clothing store. Artvarks, the vintage store, dude. Oh, my God, fuck, yeah. Just down the street. It was awesome. Yeah, I worked at Flaxis. art design, that art store got on the market. Sick.

Were you working at the time, too? I was, like, in school, but also, like, doing classical gigs, yeah. But, you know, barely making... Yeah. I remember, like, with my wife being at the grocery store and be like, can't afford orange juice today. Like, you just... It was, like, the real deal.

You've been with your wife this whole time? I've been with my wife since she was 18. We're from the same hometown. Wow. So, yeah, whole time. Oh, that's adorable. Yeah, it's good. Worked out.

Damn. And she let you be a degenerate on the tour for doing your home? She's like the only person in the world. I think that would put up with all of that. I mean, because the thing is, like, I think with people like me and this kind of personality type, like the highs are high, and then you got to deal with the loves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like when we first, man, I was talking to James Tazelle the other day about that gang that we played at the Parkside, RIP. Oh, yeah.

In Sanford. We opened for the Earl Brothers, and it was Joe's birthday. and we got so fucked up that like after the show, this is a punk bar. You know, the park said? No, I haven't been park said. It was like out by bottom of the hill. Oh, it's by bottom hill.

That's also rest and peace, right? Yeah. And it's a punk bar and we got so fucked up that night. And after when we were like collecting our $200 to the end of the night, they're like, guys, I don't think we could like have you guys back here anymore. We're like, fuck yeah. This funk bar. Are you kidding me?

No, no. Well, Phil like, oh, man, he jumped off stage and puked. the bathroom. In the middle of the set. And then you, like, you saw somebody talking to Whitney and you're like, quit fucking talking to my girlfriend. And then. On the mic.

On the mic. I mean, I think we all used to just push it like way too, way too far. Yeah. Like, my buddy had this saying in college, it was like, just when you think you've gone too far, you definitely have not. And so that was like our philosophy, but everything we did. He's in jail now. Yeah.

Hold on. And then you're writing all these beautiful love songs. And then these guys, you're writing. You roll in these fucking punk bars And it's like Do not fuck my wife Do not Oh man

What were your What were the tunes like back then Earlier years Were they like Sloppy Sloppy like it's a fun Like it was like Rock and Roll or was it

Yeah I mean it was a little rowdier I think than it you know We've maybe become a little more practice You know practice I guess over the years Um But yeah rowdy I mean we still had you know The slow songs like the sweeter songs I guess

That was still part of it, but yeah, I mean, what, like tripping on down? Tommy, I'm thinking like Tommy. I remember recording that and we played it so slow and we thought we were playing so fast. We were like, yeah, we're ripping and you go back and listen to it and it's like not even close to ripping. Isn't it crazy when you record, make records without touring them versus touring the song and then making the record?

Yeah. It's such a different, you think the song, every time I make a record before I tour it, it's so fucking slow. You know? It's like every time. Every time. And then you tore it, you do some tunes and you play them on, but then you get kind of custom to the live performance of that song.

Yeah. You know, it's got to be this balance. Do you ever go back and record the old, or like, like, re-record some? Do you guys do that? No, we've done a live album. But I thought about like a couple of the tunes that are just like way faster now and like fucking crush live. But yeah, re-record or who can't?

There's no fucking rules anymore. No rules. I agree. I agree. Yeah, dude. Hey, guys, it's Andy, and I want to talk a little bit about volume.com. Yes, volume.com. Our sugar daddy, yes, our sponsor.

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Tell me about that first tour. Do you remember that with the van? Oh, yeah. The first tour that, well, we booked our own first tour up in the Northwest. Yeah. What happened? Give me the deets. I have like a very good, fond memory.

of like we had this old conversion van you know the cushy seats and that and I just remember like rolling up a fatty and like I put like a headband on you know like just like one of those paisley that's called paisley's those things that design yeah yeah yeah yeah and just had the headband and like as soon as we rolled out of petaluma just like lit up this joint and was like we fucking doing it guys here we go yeah and then that's the same tour that someone gave me some kind of drug pill and like I was drinking and then I like got so like just black out and the next day we had to drive like the craziest windy road

and I was just puking I was like I need to eat something so I ate a cold can of like Progresso lentil soup and then yeah yeah so the whole drive but that's the memory of that tour very fond it's like when we stop it's like I remember

so distinctly like those first tours were the best times of our lives because we didn't have it was freedom right no expectations you're not worried about ticket sales You're not working about a mortgage. You're not worrying about... Social media posts.

Fucking streaming numbers or a fucking post. It's just... You're on a road with MapQuest and you're fucking going for it. You know? Yeah. MapQuest. Yeah. You remember MapQuest?

Oh, yeah, dude. Why can't we get to that point again? I don't know. We got to fucking shut it all that. Or something. Yeah, I know. Well, do... Is it still...

Like, questions, like, is it still fun? Or is it more... Do you feel like it's more strategic now? It's more of a business. It's... Yeah. Super fun. Yeah.

I mean, I also feel like... Like just this lineup feels so good. Like the addition, I don't know. I sound great. I saw you Servantes last year. Oh, yeah, yeah. That was sick. Thanks, dude.

Oh, man. Yeah, it just gels. Everybody, it just feels really good. Everybody's like got a positive attitude and it's fun. I mean, you need some fresh blood to kind of like rejuvenate the vibe? Or maybe. You know, you know, how we're mentioned. And like, you know, we've had a lot of people in the band and everybody's been great, you know,

but some people just can't do the road for whatever for whatever reason, you know. And you can't blame them for that. Can you tell now right away if they can't do the road? Because you've had so many different musicians. These motherfuckers, they're getting it. They're good musicians, but they ain't it. And we got a crew right now. Let me see that.

We got a crew right now that's awesome. And they like to be on the road, too. You got a whole light rig. Yeah, we've shot on lights, chase on sound, and carries our tour manager. And they're a great team, and they take care of us on the road. So you guys have, like, are you in a bandwagon or a sprinter? Some of times, dude. Oh, let's talk about the bandwagon, man.

Dude, that thing's a piece of shit, dude. It sucks so bad. Dude, you got to do the Pullman. We're doing that. That's cool. Next month or something? It's cool. The only problem is you have to get the fucking bus driver hotel every day.

Right. Because there's no. But it's so much more comfortable, dude. It's so much better. It's cleaner. Dude, the bandwagon is gross as fuck. Super gross. We, like, halfway through, we discovered there's like mold under our bunks and shit.

And, dude, it's so bumpy. That's the most indie. Anna's shit I've ever heard, dude. Dude, every night before we all go to bed, we were taking shots of, like, uh, NyQuil. Yeah, like, here we go. Like, I'd do like a cocktail of melatonin and a NyQuil shot just to like, knock me out. Isn't it crazy? Just you could have just your homie drive you around a night.

You're just like, hey, yeah, man. You can, fuck, yeah, you're going to drive a night fucking driving that thing, dude. Feels like, dude, I can drive it. I'm like, oh, God, here we go. For people who don't know, it's like, it's like being in a coffin in the back of a U-Haul truck. Yeah. Dude, there's no suspension. Yeah, any rock on the road you're getting in the air.

I got to drive. I'm driving drunk, you know, like you have to be kind of drunk to sleep in that fucking. Yeah, that's what, yeah. I'm the only one in this band that can, like, I can sleep through anything. And so, oh, yeah. I can sleep through anything. And so I'm the only one that's left on that van wagon. Yeah.

I didn't sleep well, but I passed those. Let me hear your story. Where are you from Nashville? I'm from Virginia. Virginia? Yeah. You got a southern twang. I am very southern.

Okay, so you're 24? 23. 24 in two weeks. Holy shit, y'all. Every season is upon us. Damn. What have you learned about grown men living in a coffee can? We'd give it real.

I don't know. It's like touring with, I have like, four dads on the room. Like, it's good. It's fun. A couple dads. I have two dads and two uncles in this band. Ben and Steve or dad and Phil and Alex or uncle. Okay, so what makes some dads?

What makes some uncles? I don't know. It's just like Alex is the uncle. My mom is excited that I'm hanging out with and Phil's the one that my mom doesn't want me to go with. It's kind of how I feel. Why? He's like, what the fuck?

We had a great time last night. Or why? Because he's a little bit of a rebel? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Don't worry. Rodman. You're Rodman.

Nah. I don't know. Okay, so tell me, so when you joined the band, it must been a couple years ago. Yeah, I started subbing in in 2023, and this was my first. So you're 21? Yeah, I had just turned 21. I was like, I called her on the phone.

I was like, hey, do you drink alcohol? She's like, well, I just turned 21. I'm like, what? Oh my God. I had no idea. Great, game on. Because we drink a lot. Yeah.

I had never drank on stage. I grew up like Southern Appalachian, like singing in church my whole life. And so. Like, like tongue? Like you did the- Like speaking tongue and shit? I was still non-denominational. I ain't that crazy. Oh, man.

I've been watching Appalachian TikTok. Oh, my God. There's some crazy shit goes down. It's kind of fucking out there. I love my home. There's like ghosts and shit. Like witches and shit. Yeah, there's ghosts in the woods.

You don't go out there at night. Have you experienced any of that shit? I don't know. I feel like Appalachas just got like, it's got a mystical vibe to it like you if you respect the land it will respect you back

but it's scary at night I watched them watching that Appalach and TikTok people are scared them skinwalkers are out there there's fucking skinwalkers I think they're out there what's a skin walker

they're like it's something that can take form of something else so it's the reptilians yeah you hear them in the woods and they're like help help and you like go out there and they eat you

yeah or they could be like like dogs that just aren't acting right. Like they don't look right. And you're like, I don't think my dog is outside or like, I don't recognize this dog. Like, they're going to eat you. I think they're awesome. I think they're awesome.

See, that's what I'm talking about, man. That's great. I've been watching a couple of these, you know, these sinners and all these movies. And then it's like, God damn. But they're coming out more and more. It's kind of scary. Yeah.

Like, I'm not far from Mothman. I think he's real. Mothman? Oh, you're deep in the size. Yeah. Tell him about Mothman. I mean, like, I don't know like full lore on mothman, but he's from West Virginia and he's a giant man that's also a moth.

And he's like, they got a town about him. They got a statue for him. It's real. I'm saying, I grew up in those same woods and all we had was like KKK guys. Maybe Mothman is actually Tyrone Biggams. That's what I think it is. You grew up in Appalachans too? Yeah, I mean, like central Pennsylvania is like the continuation of those.

Oh, yeah. That's Harrisburg. right? I'm farther west, like state college, but same thing. A lot of meth out there. That wasn't a thing for us. No? I mean, at the time it wasn't. It was just more like poor folks, like, you know, doing stupid shit, but we were kind of part of that scene. Or Burzwick? Is that

Burzwick? I don't know. That sounds like Jersey to me. Oh, there's Pennsylvania when he's play at, there's a B-Y-O-B-Titty Bar called the Angry Beaver. Dude, there's a lot of those. Right where we are. Right. Dude, pregnant women dancing. Yes. What?

It's crazy in Central Presbyniz fan. Crossroads. It's called Crossroads. It's one by us. It's crazy. Close your ears. You could roll a keg into the, to the titty bar if you wanted

and just sit there and drink and, yeah. B-Y-O-B at a titty bar. That's crazy to me. Like, what do you... That's where we were at. Like, I mean, same with your deal. It's like you could... In high school, it was like, you'd roll around.

Everybody had hunting cabins. So you'd roll around, like, shooting guns out the window of your car off-road and drinking. And that was like, standard like making bombs Or the Walmart parking lot That's the other hang Walmart parking lot Yeah Walmart parking lot

At like 12 o'clock So why did you move to NASA How'd you guys meet each other? I moved to Nashville like three months Before they called me For a shit show of a gig That I was on Thankfully that ended

But yeah I got a call for my friend Kenny in Water Tower And he was like Hey do you know the brother's comatose Oh yeah you're crazy as fuck too He was like hey do you know the brother come to us. I'm like, yeah, why? What do you want? Like, what does that mean? He's like, I think their manager is going to call you. Like, what are you talking about? Because I'd never,

I mean, I've been playing full time since I got out of high school. And I've been playing in a band since I was 10. So like bluegrass is all I've ever done. Yeah. So you know this music. Yeah. Like traditional bluegrass, like that is, that's my shit. Did you love their band? Yeah. Yeah. Of course I knew Broco. And so I got a call from Casey. You guys are fucking legends. Yeah. You got, honestly, you guys are legends. Well, my friends in Nashville were like, what? And I subbed headlining sawtooth on a Sunday, which was their birthday. Oh, that was the first, the double birthday night.

Yeah. Double birthday one. And so I had, you know, grown up, very kind of sheltered and pulled up sawtooth, first time west of Nashville ever. It was. And like she said, she never had a drink on stage before. Never drank on stage. Or just like beer after beer after beer. Yeah.

I was like, I'm not going to drink a beer on stage because I like, I'm gonna just, I'm gonna have water. And then our set got moved inside to that, like, big dance hall. And I'm dripping in sweat at that point. Because I'm in a long sleeve shirt because I thought would be cold. And I'm like, oh, thank God, there's a cooler. And I walk to the back of the stage. I open it, it's just PBR.

I'm like, oh, okay. So I cracked it. And I like, said it out. Dude, we got to hang out, dude. We got to hang out. You're my guy. You're my people. You're my beer.

I sat it on the back at the stage and would, like, walk up to the mic. And then when I would get hot, I'd like walk to the back and drink it. so nobody would see that I had a beer on stage because I was scared and now I'm, now I have a beer holster on stage. So it was great. What about your parents? Is it like, you better not like,

were they strict when they first saw your stuff? They were just like, you know, my mother's like, be careful. Just be careful. Just guard your heart. Guard your heart. Guard your heart. I'm from L.A.

Never hurting any shit like that before. Guard your heart. The thing is, we met her parents is we've known, we know them pretty well now. Yeah. We take care of her. Yeah, like they're not worried. But now, now every once in a while we can get them backstage, I'm like,

Robin, do you want to do a tequila shot? She's like, okay. I love that. My parents didn't drink around me until I turned 18. Well, you met the greatest boys, you know, like you could have been in a rock band or you could have been with like, I think it's like, yeah, you're getting your, feathers or your wings. You know, this is a perfect man.

They're not all in heroin. You could have been in the heroin, man. I know. That's true. Yeah, they're a little PBR ain't going to do nothing wrong. That's crazy. Have you brought songs to the table too? Are you guys like, now you guys all writing together?

Yeah, the last album that we just put out, Golden Grass has one of my songs on there. Oh, what's song? It's called Blue Mountain. Blue Mountain. And we just, we did a co-write with Melody Walker in Nashville. You like writing in Nashville? I don't know.

I write a lot in Nashville. I do all that. Oh, yeah. Steve Polts. Pultz is a fucking bastard. He moved down. San Diego. I know he's gone now.

He's a real crazy. Yeah. Real nuts. He had to stop doing cocaine. Yeah. If he didn't stop doing cocaine. I can't imagine that guy in cocaine. Oh, dude.

He was in a punk band, like, just shit on stage and stuff. Like, he was rock and roll as hell. Yeah. Steve used to see him in San Diego in that band back in the day. Rug burns? In the cocaine days. Yeah. Dude, I wish.

All the time. Dude, he fucking ruled. Where are you from? I'm from Southern California. Get the mic. I went to college down at UC San Diego. Oh, hell. In the early 90s when Pultz was going strong.

Oh, shit. So you saw the Pultz-y Pultz. Oh, this was like, yeah. He had his, like, Java Joe's acoustic thing. But then he had the Rugbyrins where he was in a pink dress and he was a wild man. Oh, my God. Yeah, he told me so he was that band. He was him and his partner.

They were going to beat this shit out of each other, dude. Yeah. He's the party hard, dude. Oh, yeah. They said he opened for the Ramones or something one time, and he shit on the chest of his guitar player. During the show, yeah Oh my God I don't know if it's for real anymore

I kind of believe it It probably wasn't shit It might be like a little bit of like diarrhea or something It's not like a worse dude Because you can't just flick that off You're on cocaine You ain't having a real fucking dump out there

It's a little bit of watery diarrhea That they are constipation Little like rabbit pebbles You're dehydrated as hell dog But that's yeah Paul, so San Diego. San Diego, yeah. Are you from Southern California?

Orange County, yeah. Orange County? Orange County, yeah. Where'd you go to high school, El Toro? Tribuca Hills. Tobuca Hills. You know that? Kind of.

Yeah. What's it off on the five? Off of El Toro. It's basically, I grew up like a mile from El Toro high school. Everyone in Orange County went to SF State for some reason. If we couldn't get into UCSD or SDS or USCD, everyone went to SF State because that was the first one. They let everyone.

into that motherfucker. That was the first one. First email I got back was SS STEM. I go fuck it. Cool. So Orange County. What'd you learn?

How'd you learn bluegrass in Orange County? Yeah, I didn't. I was like a sports guy. I played college baseball and didn't play music at all really until like moved to San Francisco and started seeing a lot of live music and then going to like some bluegrass festivals, going to strawberry. And then just be like, dude, this is the greatest. How'd you meet these guys?

Where were you? So I was in, I had this. jazz band that I started in San Francisco. In San Francisco, I started this jazz band. And then I threw that, I met Erica and Chloe and Rachel Teachan, who are the T-sisters. Yeah. What are they? They are they cool. You guys talk about them a lot. Yeah, I'm married to one of the T-sisters. Oh, really? Yeah, you know, bro. Yeah. He used to date one of the kids. I used to date one of the sisters. And then so they all, they all lived together in Oakland. And so I was there. He was there all the time and I was kind of like touring with them and then when they started having kids and

stuff they slowed down and it's right when brothers comments house needed somebody so do you guys tour together like the wives and the husbands no no no no did I mean I'll clap to that I guess Mexico is the last time oh yeah and Sagittah oh yeah is she still tour did your wife still tour not extensively like mostly local stuff yeah I mean they all three T-sisters have kids now, so it's really hard to get to get them all together. Going back before I forget, Water Tower, Kenny.

Oh, yeah. He's crazy as fuck, but what I like about him, he's relentless. Oh, yeah. He really, he will go, he's going for his dreams. I respect the fuck out of that. Me too. They're awesome. The Nick Hexham thing, I like him. He's, it's like, I like him just

in the streets of California, singing bluegrass on the freeways. On the freeway, just collecting. With Nick Hexum, on the, on the, the side of the freeway. I'm like, like convincing Dixem to be in a wife beater on the side of the freeway. I can't imagine what I would do if I'd just like pull up next to

me like, what the fuck is. No, we saw Kenny that one time. I know. Coming off the off ramp and it was like, is that Kenny? Yeah. Just like, we had no idea. But like with the guy from 311, dude. Like what?

Amber is a color of your energy. So how did you know this is going to be your band? This. The click. Did it click when you guys were playing together? Yeah, kind of. think we had a couple rehearsals and it felt good to me. I didn't I didn't know what these guys thought, but then Ben called right after. So it just, you know, ask a silent man. What do you, what do you

think of him? Did you like him at first? Oh yeah. I mean, I've always like, Steve. And before we had trouble with bass players, we always need someone who could sing a high harmony. So that was kind of always the criteria before. But then at the time we had a manilin player that could sing. Yeah. So yeah, we're like, Steve, like it made sense like right away. What a legend. I mean, we tried out so many. bass players and Steve had like the most solid rhythm of anybody. Steve drives, man. Yeah.

He drives. Punches that shit. Yeah. That's so crazy, dude. What about, you guys don't have a drummer, right? Nope. What's that like? I have a foot tambourine.

What's that like? And Steve has a little stomp at it. Oh, it's great, yeah. I'm, I'm anti-drama in bluegrass. Like, I'm not opposed to the idea. I think it's fun and can be done right. But, like, when you have a good enough rhythm section, you don't need it. Right.

Like it's just not necessary. It's good if that's what the music is built around, but our music is so acoustic driven already. It doesn't matter. Yeah. Takes away a lot of dynamics, I think, and like, kind of, like, so much of it would just be like the train beat and then you'd be, you know.

Yeah, you can't, I feel like, yeah, you need bluegrass is a lot of waves in it. And like, I feel with the drummer, sometimes it gets kind of fucked a little bit. So you're the drummer. Yeah, me and Ben and that. Addie or me and Ben Addie are like the rhythm section and you know if we take pride in that that we look out there when you see people dance in their asses off and it's just like

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What happened? Oh, we started making videos in the pandemic because we couldn't do anything else, obviously. And we also knew that we couldn't play that many shows anymore because we have kids. How old are? Mine are three and five. Two, holy shit, you're deep in. And then you got it. Nine and nine and eleven.

Oh, yeah, you're almost out. He was the first. Yeah. We were like, oh, man, what can we do? Like, let's start making videos with friends, you know, just like cover songs. if we were like doing our songs. We had a new album coming out. We're like, let's make videos of our songs.

You know, actually I stole, I'll dip into it real quick, but stole the idea from Scary Pockets. You know that band? Oh, that band rules. I just played with Swati. Swatkins is a piano blur. Dude, they were like pumping stuff out. And I'm like, how do they make so many videos and stuff?

And Jack Conti, the guy that plays keys in that band. He also runs Patreon. What? He's the CEO. of Patreon. Oh, I've heard this, actually. Yeah, and he's in a band with his wife called Pomplammoose, and they also put out videos every full videos every week, and I'm like, how the fuck do you do it?

He's like, this is how I do it. I fly to L.A. once a month. I'm there for two days. I filmed four videos in a day with Scary Pockets. I do four videos with Pomplamose, and then fly home and then do the Patreon thing. Like, oh, we could do that. Just like get together. Because you all don't live in the same areas anymore?

No. Three of us, too. Yeah. Where are you still in Petaluma? I'm in Berkeley. Berkeley. No, West Marin, Inverness. West Moran.

Santa Rosa. San Rosa. Yeah, he's in Mexico. He's been in Mexico for a while. We're going to talk about that. And then you're in Nashville. Nashville. So we're like, let's just, you know, get together, make a bunch of videos.

And if they can't come, then let's just get some other friends. So we got A.J. Lee, who's fucking amazing. And she lived close by. She was in San Cruz's time. Oh, is that the Mandolo player? Yeah. I just play with Winner WonderGras. She's sick, dude.

Yeah. She's really fucking good. She sings so good too. Yeah. And so we just... Is she San Francisco? She was Santa Cruz. Santa Cruz.

And we were just doing it with all of our friends. We're just like, hey, do you want to get to make a couple songs? Like, let's make a video. So we just did every, you know, a couple weeks, we'd make a bunch of videos. And then we did it with her and just did it in my, like, little office set up with my camera. And then it fucking went crazy. It went crazy viral. Yeah.

It's like 11 million or 10... Just on YouTube. It's fucking... Do you think that? Do you think that popped off the band a little bit from that? Mm-hmm. Ticket sales went popping? I think so.

Well, yeah, we'll play like places we never play, and three, 400 people show up, and we're like, how did that happen? Harvest Man. Because our whole career, it's like, you say, like, water in the seed. Like, you go back, you know, 30 more people that time, 30 more people this time. Now it's like we can kind of, I mean, knock on wood for me. We can kind of show up and there'll be, you know, a couple, a few hundo people. Yeah.

What, you're playing, what tour were you on a couple months? you were on theaters. Were you opening? Were you opening for someone? Were you doing a run? A theater run? I saw a couple shows where they're... Oh, like that Wilma show.

Wilma show. Oh, Wilma. We're headlined in that show. Dude, we batched a ton of content from that shit. Let's fucking go, boy! That was an awesome train. Dude, I was like... I was so proud.

Like, I've seen you guys fucking grind it out, grind it out. And then I saw that. I'm like, and I looked if, like, there was gear behind you, and there wasn't gear behind you. It was your fucking show. And that made me so... fucking happy, dude. And in Montana. Those whites are different

out there, dude. There's a white, there's some different whites out there. I love, I love Bozeman and like what's that other place? Missoula. Livingston or Billings? No, what's that? Pine Creek. Yeah, we never played there, but

you should play, we should do, we got to do a run together. I think that work? I think it worked. Yeah. You were at the Swanee Cave, right? In Illinois. a couple years ago. That was cool. Yeah, yeah.

You were on that, right? Yeah, yeah. We were on that day before, I think. Day before, yeah. This is crazy. Okay, so just because we got to, I really want to dive this in, just because you did the work in COVID and you didn't give up, that's what kept the band going. Yeah.

And they're like continued making videos all the time so that, you know, nobody could go anywhere. So at least they were like watching a video, kind of like just stay in people's heads. You know what I mean? Yeah. And like, you know, and you're still doing a really good job with it now with how you guys are approaching your social media. It's like, it's cute. It's like good videos.

They're cute. They're set well. You have good taste. I'll keep bowing down to the queen here. Nice work. We've always loved making like dumb, goofy videos. But Addie, like, brings it to next. She's like, like our cheerleader.

She's like, guys, let's fucking do this thing. Are you ready to shoot content? I love. So excited. Yeah. Oh, man. Are you a Gen Z? Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. This makes sense. That does feel like a forte for us, though, is like, stupid. silly. That's how we got jam crews the first time. Well, think about, and like, you know, blessing this guy is you got you hired a 21-year-old

that got to pop in and get online. How expensive is fucking being in a band? Yeah, bro. We just... Fuck all this bullshit. Yeah, dude. How are we supposed to make money when we're giving out 20% of our gross to people?

This is just 20. This is the daily talk. We got to talk, dog. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, let's fucking cook, boys. Oh, my God. Have you figured it out yet?

Because we've not. No, I just I'm just trying I'm taking shows I'm trying to figure out a model where it's a profit model instead of a gross model like we could throw money and like play all these shows

so our managers and our agents get the thing but that doesn't profit it's not a profitable business so it's like we have to figure out a way to do these one-offs that makes sense with maybe travel budgets or maybe like you know like feet picks on OF feet pick oh yeah dude I'm I'm my If my feet weren't so dehydrated, I'd be fucking all about that.

Looking like a, looking like a, look like a, look like a moth man over here. But, you know, we got to figure out a different solution because if only, if we're only making money off touring, then everyone's got to play ball. Right. It's all based on an old, an old model of, we're not made, and even royalty money is not even doing that well. We have to play ball. If the only way everyone's going to make money is if we're, on the road traveling, then we need to play ball with how you guys

are approaching expenses and how how you're taking percentages off expenses, right? We talked a lot about that, yeah. I mean... It's hard because the old man game. It's like, it's good old boys. Yeah.

You know, it's like, I have a manager too, so I'm like, I don't know. I feel like I'm talking shit about my manager. No, you're doing a great job. Yeah. Same. Our team is fucking awesome. But like also...

But this model does not work. Yeah. When, I mean, almost 25% just like chop right off the top. You're 25%. Yeah, 15, 10. Well, I don't know how much we can get into it, but like we have a business manager also.

Five. Three. Three. Oh, lucky. He's four with me. So I'm 29%. Yeah. You're 27?

No, less than that. I think our manager, well, our manager factors in some expenses, actually. He's kind of was like grandfathered in from our old manager. And he's fucking great. He's doing a great job. Everybody on a team is, but still, dude, it's like,

To chop that much off. And then your flights and your hotels and your fucking van rentals and your crew and everything. And you're like, what do I got left? So if they're taking gross, then you're paying 27% interest on flights. Yeah. Because you're paying that. They're already taking that out. Yeah.

And then you're still have to pay for the flights. That's the whole problem. That's the problem. We've heard of other managers trying to work in a deal where you get like a certain amount. like a buyout for travel expenses for like a one-off festival or whatever. You could do that. So that. Tell your agent to do that.

Yeah. I mean, we've been. We started. We started. Yeah. Because if DJs are getting production budgets for their lights and you're not really like, you don't have,

you don't need that in your festival, then take the same shave off for your travel budget. Yeah. Where they don't take their percentage. And then you, yeah. Yeah, you save at least 100 grand, a summer festival. That's like. that's an extra 10 grand for everybody because it's like flights are

$200,000 I spent $200,000 on flights last summer $200,000 Wow, dude I got eight guys who don't live One guy lives in fucking Nantucket in Massachusetts He's like Mr. Porter of my art over here But yours is way easy than

Nantucketton that motherfucker's You gotta take a ferry And drive up to skyplanes I'm like, what the fuck are you doing to me, dude? Well, whatever. Live your bliss, whatever. But yeah, I think we need to like just start having that communication with bands.

I don't know. I think calling it a union is weird. But just like we all have to come together and realize. It's like it's not, it's a new industry. Yeah, everything has changed so much. It's like, so why hasn't that part changed? Because we aren't complaining about it.

Right. Yeah, maybe. Well, now we are. We're fucking mad, okay? Listen, my Adderall just kicked in. We're fucking angry, okay? Neil Our producer has one question for you

Because I know he's listening to the whole interview Grab that mic I've got a question for you Oh I've been thinking about this question for a long time And the right person to ask But it's definitely you Have you ever been like just straight up lost

Like lost in the woods No idea where you are Or lost out on the road Give me a lost story Neil I fucking love you dude Just out of nowhere throwing a curveball out. That's a good one. That is good. Back of Pennsylvania, when we were in high school, me and a buddy used to do like winter backpacking trips. And we also used to

think we were like badass like Army Ranger guys that could do whatever the fuck. And yeah, started snow and lost our trail, like negative temperatures, completely couldn't follow our compasses, completely lost in the woods. Yeah, I can't remember how that turned out. But I mean, obviously we made it, but. Hold on. Was that scary? That must have been so. So scary. If you're ever lost in the woods, the moment you look at your topo map and your compass and you lose your reference, that's a pit in your stomach like you've never had.

That's a terrible feeling. Oh. That teaches you shit, too. How'd you get out? How long it takes? I don't remember exactly. But I just remember, like, it was getting dark and, like, our footprints, our footfalls kept getting covered by the fresh snow.

And we were just like, oh, shit, dude. This is like one of those, like, lot of survival shows. It's a blur witch shit. Damn. We hung her down, we made it, but... Okay. That's first one dropped to my head. We're over here.

Thank you very much. Yeah. That's good. Oh, one other quick one. I like it. I like it. Actually, this is good. Years ago...

I told you about this guy recently. Years ago, me and my boys were at Ocean City, Maryland. We got shit house drunk, and there was all these jet skis parked in, like, a dock. And so we swam out to these jet skis as dark. And we, like, pushed one off the little slip and, like, pushed down the ocean, tried to start it up, didn't work. Brought it back. grabbed another one, fired it up, got it going, and we're like, yeah, and we just wowed out out into the ocean.

And we're like, wow, ma'amma. And we, like, finally stop and we're all, like, you know, out of our heads. And we turn around and we look at the shore and it's just like dots on the shoreline of, like, lights and had no idea, like, where we had come from. Oh, fuck. Yeah. Ocean's a scary place. No, I don't fuck with that.

No, it is a scary. That's some, like, castaway shit, dude. Yeah, luckily we were like, you know, drunk. so we were like, you know, it wasn't that, but we found our thing back, but that was another one. Yeah, good question.

Wow. Shout out Neil from fucking Alistford. Thank you, Neil. Great there. Good question. Yep, that's our guy. That's our new producer. Okay, guys, I got one last thing I want to do

is a band camaraderie thing. I want you to each pick a band member and say something that you love about them. Who wants to start? what we do. We're going straight. I'm going to start with Addie. She's so young.

No, she's so much more advanced than like any of us were at early 20s. Like, she's just open to things. I can't believe you're 24 fucking years old. It's crazy. She can be in a room with like complete, me and her went to Ireland after our, after our Europe trip last time and stayed with some of my friends. And it's just like, she can just hold the room no matter where she's at. And it's just like, she's kind of wise beyond her.

years. So I really admire that. I'll take my brother. You know, he's quiet, obviously. But when he speaks, it's like so profound. It is. You're like, what the, man? Like, what did he say when he was a kid? He was like a little kid and he started talking about, parents were talking about outer space. And then he's like, but what about inner space?

I'm like, oh, my God. Who is this? Like, I still don't quite understand. That's my guy. Fuck, dude. Anyway, yeah. That's my fucking guy. Yeah, I'll go with Steve.

Just such a solid guy. His personality is much like his bass playing. It's just super, yeah, just solid, reliable, great mediator. Always positive vibes. Thanks, man. Yeah, of course. Let's go, Steve. I'm going to just love on the whole band because everybody's.

He doesn't like it a most. Everybody's. No, but, you know, we kind of get rowdy sometimes, less and less these days, but everybody has good character. Like, nobody here would take a dollar out of anybody's pocket, you know what I mean? Like, I don't, you don't have to worry about it. Good character for everybody. That's huge. And I got Ben.

Never my life have I seen somebody push through with shows where he, like, this is my motherfucking hero right here. Yeah? Yeah. Like, lost his voice on the last run. still say so positive through it like kicked ass has like felt like shit on stage

but you would never know it from the audience like absolute true performer and like is such an inspiration for that let's fucking go guys what a nice see we're gonna kick ass say guys we're gonna have fun we're not gonna be worrying about the fucking

27% commissions and we're gonna have fun okay love yourself Love this. Keep enjoying the process. And remember, you have like three lives left. Be careful.

Okay, we gotta have you around. Brothers Comatose, what a fucking treat this was. Likewise, man. Let's go get them. Go have some fucking fuck. Long time fan. First time. Let's fucking go, baby.

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