Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - Deric Cahill on the DUI that changed his life, parenting, & starting a chocolate company

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

Comedian Deric Cahill stops by and joins us for a hilarious conversation that goes all over the place. We discuss parenting when you're on the road all the time, how Deric left his corporate job to st...art a chocolate company, and the DUI arrest that changed his life. He even invited the cop who arrested him to his show 13 years later. We also talk about making content for social media vs his standup act, getting comfortable with yourself and your art, and who's more racist, Boston or Texas. 👉 Subscribe for new episodes every Tuesday 📲 Follow Andy on Instagram and TikTok: @andyfrasco and @worldsavingpodcast Call and leave us a message and we might respond to you on the show: (720) 996-2403 The World Saving Podcast is part comedy podcast, part music podcast — with raw musician interviews, funny podcast clips, and highlights from Andy's adventures on the road. Each week features musicians, comedians, athletes, or everyday legends. Watch this episode now on Volume.com & YouTube. If you like this podcast and want more, sign up for OnlyFrasco exclusively on Volume.com. They also have tons of live streams, concert recordings, and unique artist experiences. For all things Frasco, go to: AndyFrasco.com

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Starting point is 00:00:03 All right, everyone live. Andy Frasco's World Saved podcast. I'm Andy Frasco, hot on location, live in Boca Raton. Hey, Greg, get over here. I'm with my boss, Greg, hello, from Volume.com. We're in beautiful Bokertan. It's kind of raining. I'll show you right now what's going on.
Starting point is 00:00:19 It's raining, but it's fine. A lot to talk about. A lot to go over, but today's not the day to go over it because we start our tour. Ladies and gentlemen, before we get Derek on this show, I want to talk about, It's been fun. I went to L.A. with Nick. We took mushrooms with Todd Glass and did a three-hour podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:40 We're putting that pretty sick. God damn. That motherfucker could talk his ass off. But now the time has come. I've been off, I've been on vacation for a month, and it's time to go back on tour. But we're in Florida.
Starting point is 00:00:55 It's raining. Is it rain like this all the time? Every day. Every day. It rains like this? It's muggy and rains like this? That's why you got to get the fuck out of here, Greg. They get back to Colorado.
Starting point is 00:01:07 But yeah, we're out here all week. December 3rd, Boca Raton, that show sold out. Thank you, the lovely retired Jews of Boca Raton. Thanks for selling that out. The fourth, we're in Deland, Florida, Kathy Da Vinci. I've never been there. I heard great things about that. The fifth, we're back in Stewart, Florida.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Terra Formata, I love that place. The sixth, St. Petersburg. Florida in Janice Live. I'm stoked for that. We're almost sold out there. I think there's only 100 tickets left. So grab your tickets if you're procrastinating. The seventh, we added, yeah, the seventh we added St. August in Florida in Colonial Park.
Starting point is 00:01:50 And then the 10th were in New Orleans at Tippettinas back in Tippettinas. The 12th, Atlanta, Georgia. Listen, Atlanta. I just saw the ticket numbers for Atlanta. They're not that good. I need you to fucking step it up. This is crazy. We sold it out last year.
Starting point is 00:02:04 And I'm looking at this number. Like, what are you waiting for? You are just guys are just getting, I'm not going to come back. I won't come back for a year if you're going to treat me like, buy the fucking tickets. I know we're going to sell this place out. Don't stress me out.
Starting point is 00:02:20 My manager and my booking agent are just up my ass about Atlanta. I'm like, what's going on? We normally pack out Atlanta. I need you on this. Go buy some fucking tickets. Nashville, Tennessee. basement. That's going to be fun on the 13th. The 14th, Lexington at the Burrell, is sold out. Shout out to Lexington. 17th, Little Rock, Arkansas, 18th, Oklahoma City. The 19th, we're in Dallas, Texas.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Can't we see the Cacuzza Brothers? And then the 20th, we're in Austin. And then I'm in Chicago. I'm dressing up as the Grinch for my friends' kids. It's always the Jewish guy who has to dress up as a Grinch on Christmas. What the fuck is that all about? But I'm going to go see Bayliss's kids. I'm going to dress up as the Grinch and smoke cigarettes and steal all their candy. That sounded creepy, but that's what I'm doing for Christmas. And then I'm flying on the 30th to Brooklyn.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Brooklyn Bowl, guys, I know we're competing with fish. Look, I get it. You know, I got to pick fish over you, Frasco. I get it. But you can pick one day without fish. You don't have to go to all 27 fucking shows. You can go to one Frasco. show and then go to 26 of the fish shows.
Starting point is 00:03:35 We're playing at the Broken Bowl, the 30th and the 31st. 31st is going to sell out, but if you're going to, fish fans, if you're going to pick a non-fish day, come see Frasca and the band at the Broken Bowl on the 30th. We need some help on that show. And then we are with Umphreys McGee, two nights in Chicago, going back to Chicago, January 2nd, and 3rd.
Starting point is 00:03:57 But yes, that's it. Those are the dates. Before we get Derek O'Hell, he's a, amazing comedian. He's actually hilarious. He talks about his kids. It's really I mean, he's fucking funny. You're going to love this interview. Before that, I have Greg. My boss. My boss. My boss. Hey, Greg. Any advice for the kids to make sure they have a great week this week. Don't do drugs. You'll have a great week. God damn it. We're not doing any drugs. We're getting chicken fucking Caesar raps and IVs. We're starting the tour.
Starting point is 00:04:31 right. Okay, guys, stay safe out there. Like Greg said, don't do drugs. If you're going to do drugs, do the right drugs. Don't do shitty drugs. And drink water and stay hydrated and be who you want to be every day, even if it pisses some people off, right, Greg?
Starting point is 00:04:47 Buy tickets in Atlanta. Buy fucking tickets to Atlanta. All right. Enjoy Derek. Bye. I'm thinking about having a kid. Yeah? So we brought a specialist in who loves kids. Derek Cahill. Comedian. You can't get enough of them, dude. Can't get enough
Starting point is 00:05:03 them. What's your kid? You're a kid as an artist? Oh, uh, as a, as an artist, yeah, uh, we're, we're, we're broken people. So we're on our healing journey. I would say artists are the best fucking ones to have kids, dude. We hate ourselves so much. We hate ourselves so much. We don't have any time to hate them. I don't know. I can probably figure out. That's that real Boston mentality right there, buddy. How you doing, Derek? Good to be here. Doing well, dude. Thanks for having me, man. Dude, of course. What a fucking story you have. I mean, where are you living right now?
Starting point is 00:05:41 Dallas, Texas. You're living Dallas. And you seem liberal with your upside-down coffee hat. Right. Yeah. Backwards. That's me, dude. What's it like living out there?
Starting point is 00:05:54 What's it like, what's Texas? Like, Dallas is pretty liberal. But, like, what's Texas in a nutshell and how are you approaching it in your... I mean, our governor just passed a bill. that the like the 10 commandments should be posted in every classroom and I think that tells you pretty much what you need to know about Texas. Jesus, are you serious? They didn't say what religion, though. You can just put any... I think there's only one religion with 10 commandments though. Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I can make some up. Oh, man. It's just pretty crazy what's going on right now. Why did you, why did you pick Dallas when you were born in Boston or what? Born in Boston, uh, lived in Florida for a bit. And then, uh, I, I, uh, I, got a real big boy job corporate America in like 2016 and just fucking crushed it and got promoted a bunch of times and they moved me out to Dallas in 2019
Starting point is 00:06:45 Oh sick. Classic tale. Classic tale as old as time. Quit that job a year later and just stayed in Dallas. The white man version of Nomadic. Getting translated. Exactly, dude. Just leaving home base for foraging and shit. So tell me a little about
Starting point is 00:07:03 your life, man. It's been a, what a crazy, crazy situation. I mean, you, I'm reading, I'm reading these notes about how your parents were, you moved out when you're 16 years old. Yeah, 16, 17. What happened? Who happened? Who heard you? Everyone, bro. Everyone. I do therapy now. I've been doing therapy for like seven months with this fucking great dude who just, I cry every fucking time I talk to him. I feel like such a little bitch. Yeah. But it makes me feel good. Yeah, dude, my parents were just fucking drug addicts from Boston. So, so, that's how we moved to Florida. They thought, I don't think that they thought
Starting point is 00:07:37 Oxycontin existed in Florida or something. So we fled to Florida, and they were like, oh, fuck, and found it again. And it's just a lot, dude, you know, to, they're fucking, I mean, I don't know if you guys have ever been exposed or seen at least the documentaries about just fucking Oxycontin and shit, but my parents loved that shit more than us.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And so moved out. Yeah, dude, I was on my own since then. We were talking with Ward Haines yesterday, and he was like, They're like, he broke his fucking shoulder going through Costa Rica. And it's like he's in a bumpy road. And they would not even give him oxycodden. Like in America, if you have a headache, you'll get fucking oxycod.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Right. You know, what's the? And then you wonder why we're all. Well, dude, it's a fucking end stage life drug that ship was for like people that had like dick bone cancer. Right. And then they were like, oh, you got a hang nail, dude. Here's fucking 80 milligrams of oxy.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Take it eight times a day and don't take care of your kids anymore. Did they get into heroin? Or was it just straight pills? I don't know, man. I mean, they were always fucked up growing up, like alcohol and, you know, that kind of, you know, cocaine, I'm sure, and all that. Like, normal Bostonian parent drugs? It wasn't until I was like... Yeah, that's just Catholic school.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Yeah, exactly. The self-hatred is strong up there. It wasn't until I was like, I think 13, 14 that they started doing oxy. and then they were just like zombies to the world dude and I didn't really talk to them after I moved out like I didn't live with them anymore I barely spoke to them but they
Starting point is 00:09:09 they're both dead now they died 10 years ago murder suicide no murder suicide oh my god man I'm just kidding I'm kidding I'm kidding Jesus fucking Christ there Jesus it was drugs yeah it was the drugs got him
Starting point is 00:09:26 yeah I mean it's that's basically suicide you know It's long-form suicides. I'm just like... Poetic. Yeah. So did you, because of that, were you disgusted with drugs? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Yeah. I could never... I've done cocaine one time in my life. I was like 20, 21 maybe. That was that experience. That was it. I just had to shit all night. I didn't like it at all.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't like it at all. But yeah, no, nothing else. I mean, I dabble a bit in the greenery. I mean, very rarely. that yeah but never got into anything because I fucking saw what it did to people dude I saw what it did to my family
Starting point is 00:10:06 and how I felt grown up and I got three kids you'll be fucked if I ever do that so you know you talk a lot about about your parents and your stand-ups I was like I was wondering what did you learn from them that you are trying to do as a parent now so it actually is just what did I learn
Starting point is 00:10:24 from them and I just do the opposite of it that that's pretty that's pretty much how I've like grown into adulthood is like, if I can see what I'm doing it's the opposite of what they would do. I'm like, I'm fucking crushing it right now. But that's what comes up in therapy quite a bit. Yeah, I mean, it's got, you know, all joke and aside,
Starting point is 00:10:40 it's got to be tough, right? You know, there's just fucking tools that you don't get as a kid and young adult growing up and raising your own kids when you have parents that fucking picked drugs over you, you know, like that shit. It's a lot of stuff that I'm just figuring out, dude. I turn 37 on first.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Friday and I'm like fucking just figuring out like who I am and what shit means to me. It's crazy, man. So yeah, I mean, I feel like I'm actually ahead of the curve when you think about other, you know, 40, 50, 60 year old dudes that would just, you know, hit their families to do drugs as a result of having that time to them. Right. But yeah, dude, it's a fucking mess. I think about the Boston social media guy, be a man.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Oh, yeah, yeah. You know that, dude. Oh, yeah. It's all of them, dude. It's all of them. old Boston dudes. It's like, oh, you fucking gay pussy. Like, that's, that's therapy to them.
Starting point is 00:11:34 It's just, and calling you a pressing. I never heard the word f***ing so much in my life ever since, at a Celtics game. Everyone was a fucking. I was like, what the fuck is going on here? An article of speech there. Yeah. Why are they so racist out there?
Starting point is 00:11:52 Bro, I'd ask my dad, but he's dead. I think it's just fucking cries. Who's more racist? Boston or Texas? I think Boston, I think there's different forms of racist. I would say Boston is more like empathetically racist. And it's very to your face.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Texas is very behind and closed doors racist. And if I were to choose, if I were to be the victim of racism, I would choose Boston racism. Yeah, why? Explain that. At least you know, you know. Yeah, yeah. You don't need a lawyer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:29 It's like, I think of a, I was starting to watch the Dallas Cowboys doc on Netflix. Jerry Jones, man, that motherfucker is racist as shit. He's trying so hard not to see. Dude, there was a picture of him fucking boycotting integration at a fucking school. I know, dude. As a kid, yeah. Yeah, there's a picture of him in, whatever, Texas or Alabama. He's fucking in the picture being like, you can't fucking come here.
Starting point is 00:12:53 So, you know, you talk a lot about your kid. What don't you like about your kid? No, I love my kid. I like my kids, dude. They're great. They're just the worst thing that's ever happened to me in my entire life. Tell me about that. This is what I want you on the show because I need to know everyone.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I only hear advice from people who aren't, you know, traveling artists. I hear it from the people with the nine to five. I want to hear your interpretation of why it's so fucking tough to have a fucking child. Well, so I have three of them. So I get land. My man, you kind of works, dude. Yeah, dude. I do be fucking.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Three times. I had Landon when I was 20. He's 16 now. And then I have a 9-year-old daughter and a 3-year-old son. I've been married for next year's 10 years of marriage. She adopted land. I got a whole... Dude, I was so close to being a Boston dad.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Like, I was this fucking close. I had the young kid. I had the baby mamas, dude. I got a D-Y when I was 23 years old. I was fucked. But I found my waiver. I find my way. And, uh, dude,
Starting point is 00:14:01 kids are, the tough part about having kids is just, you got, they live their own fucking life and then you live your fucking life and you somehow got to merge between like this small little being
Starting point is 00:14:14 that wants to just become a person and you, wanting to also be your own fucking person at the same time, they're just assholes and do fucked up things to you. Yeah, like you give them all this love and they treat you like shit.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Dude, I mean, And my, I mean, as they get, it's easy when you, you guys have kids? No. Not that we know of. No, I definitely do. All right. And I know.
Starting point is 00:14:37 So when they're young, dude, it's just, it's, it's easy. It's easy shit, dude. Like babies and toddlers and eight, all they do is love you. And sure, like my nine-year-olds get a little flexy on me right now. But Landon, fuck, 16-year-old dude, it's like living with a fucking 50-year-old ex-husband or like, you know, a fucking divorced father. You know, all he wants to do. He wants to play fucking video games all day, wants to do whatever the fuck he wants,
Starting point is 00:15:04 doesn't do the dishes. When he does the dishes, he does them like shit, asks me for money, doesn't do anything to earn it. It's like, what the fuck, bro? Oh my God. So, did you give him a car? Well, I'm giving him my car.
Starting point is 00:15:19 So now I've got to get myself a new car. This bitch, bro, he doesn't have a job. He doesn't have a job. I'm giving him a decent car, a 2014 Honda CRV that shit It puts us around. That thing wrong. He doesn't have no job.
Starting point is 00:15:32 He texted me last week. I swear to God, text me a fucking, a link to a $15,000 truck. We weren't even talking about it. We weren't even on the topic of buying him a new vehicle. He just sends the link and then goes, I think we can haggle. Oh, my fucking God. Down to zero? And then.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Yeah, I was like. And then they want to go to college and you got to pay for college. Yeah. I fucking wish it was that easy, bro. I'm trying to make this bitch go to college. I think if I left him to his own devices, dude, he'd be a fucking professional Fortnite player spending $80 a month for the rest of his life with no income.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Oh my God. Everyone thinks they could be Twitch stars, right? Dude, I mean, I think that's the tough part for me, raising kids. There's all these dichotomies that I have. Like, first of all, I have the experience of me growing up where I had to be a fucking, like, adult at 16. So that's hard for me to, like, pull,
Starting point is 00:16:27 like, I got to sometimes pull my, self back and be like, it's okay that Landon is a little retarded right now because he can be. I couldn't be. I would have been homeless, right? Like, he's safe to be a little fucking dumb. And then the other side of it is I've been in relatively like successful careers. Like I was in I was a vice president of sales in corporate America. I've started a couple of businesses. I'm on the road doing comedy. And he talks about being an entrepreneur. But then that's where it stops for him is like just the talk about it. So it goes back into the same thing.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Yeah. Well, it's hard for you not to tell them to follow your dreams on the internet when you blew up on the internet. Yeah, but dude, I mean, like, it took fucking forever, bro. You know, like, it took years to get to that point. And even then, it's like a combination of like good timing and luck and, you know, it's not, there's no career ladder in social media. It's true.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Yeah, what happened? And it also starts with just making videos. Just that. That's what I tell him. Like, you want to do social media? Start making fucking videos. You know? That's a period.
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Starting point is 00:18:10 Okay, so you either subscribe to this or Nick will be on the street. All right, bye. I mean, your story, you're an entrepreneur, man. This is crazy with the chocolate company and the charcutory restaurant. That sucked. What happened? Why did you decide to do a charcutta re-gress? Well, dude, I've always been really good at, or really bad.
Starting point is 00:18:33 If I feel fucked in any situation or like undervalued, I've always been really good at just leaving. Just like, go fuck. I was making great money in corporate America, but I just started feeling a little fucked. So I walked away from it. And right, like about six months prior, my wife and I decided to start a chocolate company randomly. Neither of us went to like culinary school, no idea how to make chocolate. we just started making it in our kitchen and then it started growing and growing
Starting point is 00:18:59 and I left corporate America, did some consulting and then rented a space in our town and had this big open thing and I was like well fuck it I guess we'll just open a restaurant to like make money on the front of it and it fucking sucked it we ran that restaurant
Starting point is 00:19:15 for like a year lost so much fucking money it sucked but then the chocolate dude the chocolate company was crushing it for a few minutes man we did in 23 I think a million in revenue. Nice. We made no money.
Starting point is 00:19:29 I made no fucking money. But the revenue was good. The expenses are hella crazy. Yeah. Yeah, the revenue is cool. It's cool to be like, I ran a million dollar company, but it also is a big,
Starting point is 00:19:40 like, reality check. Because, dude, I found a notebook from when I was like, I think I was like 19 years old. I had written down some goals. And one of the goals was be a millionaire by next year. Like,
Starting point is 00:19:51 that's how stupid I was. I was like, just be a millionaire next year. I was like, oh, you fucking dumb idiot. But when you don't have that, you feel like a million is everything.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And then I was here with the million dollar company and broke his shit. We almost lost our house twice on this whole fucking journey. It was crazy. Oh, dude, that's how I feel. We're in a band.
Starting point is 00:20:10 And, you know, our band gross is $2 million a year, but my expenses are $1.5 million. Yeah. What the fuck is going on? Like, it's like, everyone's like, yeah, you gross that much money. I'm like, my expenses are three-fours.
Starting point is 00:20:24 This is not how I'm on welfare, bitch. On the road we use food stamps. Yeah. I have to Airbnb my house, bitch. When I'm on tour, I have to sleep in people's cum. That's with frequent wire. You ever done a set and then had to do Uber eats? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Hotel room next to you and then go to bed. Oh, good. Fucking funny. Dude, didn't I see you with the show tonight? Yeah. Yeah, here's your nachos. Yeah. Come meet me at the mean greet.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Get me the Uber. Get in my Uber for the mean green. Emmy A-T meat. What's this deal with you got your product in Walmarts and Whole Foods? What happened there? I'm just a hustler. I mean, that's kind of, I think, where that all comes from, dude. I was pitching to Whole Foods and Walmart before we even, like, could make that much chocolate.
Starting point is 00:21:15 And just kind of selling the vision, like the dream, making it. I've always been really good at making brands look like they're not deep. rooted in property. So, yeah, so we just, we pitched and pitched and, uh, yeah, it just slowly took on those accounts. But yeah, the expenses were fucking insane, bro, because I wanted to make a good chop. It was like, it was good intentions.
Starting point is 00:21:40 I wanted to make a good food that was like affordable for the pores as well. Um, but, but it just got, it was just too much money, dude. Like, uh, we were after everything, dude, when you start making a company like that, It's not just about the ingredients and the packaging. It turns into the ingredients, the packaging, the shipping, the trucking, the storage, the fees that get charged by these stores, the chargebacks. At the end of the day, you'd, like, truly, we were losing money every time we sold a bag of chocolate. Well, yeah, it's like, you know, my buddy did that with Walmart. You get a fat advance to build your company.
Starting point is 00:22:15 You don't realize how expensive. It's like a book deal or a record deal. You don't realize how fucking expensive it is to fucking make chocolate. chocolate for the demand of what Walmart and Whole Foods want. Supply chain has to be impossible without stuff. Oh, it's fucked up. Well, you just, when you talk about food at like a national level, it's, it's not built for anyone to break in.
Starting point is 00:22:39 It's a small business. It's built to either be acquired and put into the cog of one of the big machines or they just fucking gobble you up. Yeah. So you have kids. You have 15 businesses. You're on tour. When do you have time to jack off?
Starting point is 00:22:56 Dude, I barely. You know, my wife hates porn. So it's a tough time in my house, dude. Tough time. Tell me, how do you keep love around when your wife is off of your business partner? That's a good question, dude. And just the chocolate company is dead. That doesn't exist anymore.
Starting point is 00:23:17 So I just have like two businesses now. What are that? Chocolate. I mean, I don't know, chocolate merch, social media. I don't know if those count as separate businesses are all under the same umbrella, but no, dude,
Starting point is 00:23:33 one of the cool things about separating your pot of money is like if one thing doesn't work, I'm not fucked for, you know, that's the one thing that sucks about having one job, like corporate America. Like, it's one day that they don't like you. You're just fucked and you're unemployed. So it's cool to have multiple little buckets
Starting point is 00:23:48 that you pull from. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Love, me and Brooke, dude, I just love my wife a ton. I'm super gay for her. So, I love that. We don't take anything super serious. Like, even, we never really got into a bunch of fights in the business, dude. It was all just super chill. Yeah, it's great. Do you tour a lot? Like, what's your tour schedule like? Yeah, I took the month off a lot. I had maybe like four shows within driving distance over the summer. But I cook pretty much. spring and I'm about to start going really heavy in the back half here.
Starting point is 00:24:26 That's crazy, man. So when you're making new, when you're making new stand-ups, what's your approach of saving stuff for the internet and hoarding stuff and like trying to feed the beast of social media and not fucking blowing your load? I don't know if I have like an intentional strategy, you know, like the way I'm, I've never met anyone that does what I do. do like the way I do it. With social media, it just, like, I have, I don't have any, like, backlog of videos. I don't, I don't strategize on what I'm going to post this week. I just,
Starting point is 00:25:04 like, if I wake up and I have an idea, I film the idea, and I post a video. Um, last year's tour, probably 40% of the show was successful bits that I kind of tested out on social media and then just built into stories for the road. So, I, I, I, you know, I kind of look at it like a relationship. I don't look at anything like, like, if I post a standup clip, that kind of burns the material that I would do on stage. But I keep a kind of different, man. Like my videos are kind of like lifestyle point in time.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Like right now I'm dealing with a bullshit LG refrigerator. That will make it to stand up stage, you know? So it's a good reel, though. Yeah, it's a great reel. For the moms. So you're, so when you're making a stand, like toxic pop up, you're directing it, right? Yeah. I put that on IMDB because they made me.
Starting point is 00:25:53 So I'm curious about that process too. Like, do you have someone you could bounce it back or like so you're not too close to the source? Like what you think is funny and what you've worked on? Like I think about that when I'm editing videos and editing like or like even producing records. You know, I got to have a bounce back kind of a somewhat a co-captain a little bit. I guess in the smallest way I got a buddy. His name is Joe Simmons. We started doing comedy together.
Starting point is 00:26:20 He doesn't do comedy anymore. He's an old Asian man that does mortgages now. But when I pitched, like, I'll call them and have just like a funny conversation about like a bit that I have. But, um, dude, I was kind of like the reverse. Like when I used to do, like, I started comedy 15 years ago. Um, and I used to write thinking about what people were going to laugh at. And what ended up coming out was like these fucking like weird bits that didn't really make any sense. But I thought they were funny for an audience.
Starting point is 00:26:50 when I started writing for Toxic Papa last year, I actually started that same way. Started like the old way I used to write. Like, oh, I think they'll think this is funny. I fucking must have written like two hours. And I fucking hated it. I was like, this doesn't feel at all like who I am anymore. So I started writing just what I thought was funny. And that's because at the end of it, if you don't think I'm funny, like first of all, go fuck yourself.
Starting point is 00:27:16 You don't, there's a million people you can laugh at. Right. I don't want to pander. Like, I, my writing is, I think it's funny. And when I'm on stage, obviously, sometimes, like, it doesn't translate. And I'm like, well, fuck me, then. I know, you know, I'll throw that one away. But, uh, dude, going through the life that I've gone through,
Starting point is 00:27:34 I felt like for the first 30 fucking years of my life, it was just trying to walk on broken eggshells with people. Like, don't fucking, like me, please love me, don't leave me. And I've gotten to the point now where it's like, I just want to fucking do me. Like, I don't, fuck you. Like, if you like me, cool. If you don't, like, that's also cool, but, like, go fuck yourself. Isn't it freeing once we stop thinking that, um, we're here for other people and we got to, like,
Starting point is 00:28:00 we're here for ourselves as well? Yes. And, you know, I'm still trying to, like, I'm not all the way there yet. But every day I try to, like, start and remind myself that that is, I serve me first. And like, within me, it's like also like my family. Like, we are first. Outside of that, dude, like, there's fucking slim pickings for my heart. heart and energy. Right. Um, well, yeah, that brings me, uh, to the turning point of your,
Starting point is 00:28:25 of your life, the DUI arrest. Tell me about that. What the fuck happened. Dude, I'm not even shitting you. That was, that was huge for me. Like what? Were you drinking? Were you doing, what was fucking hammered drunk all the time, bro? The boss. I, I felt uncomfortable driving sober. Like, I felt like, Jesus Christ. Seriously, I was, I was, I was on another level, dude. And I, dude, I'd gotten pulled over hammered drunk like three times and always got let off the hook for whatever reason. What would you tell the cops? Like, what would you tell the cops?
Starting point is 00:29:01 How did you get out of it? It never even came up, dude. I got pulled over one time for running a stop sign. And the cop walked up to the car. He was like, do you know why I pulled you over? He's like, I pulled you over for. Or he was like, why did I pull you over? I was like, I was speeding.
Starting point is 00:29:14 He was like, no, you bring that stop sign. I was like, well, that's you then. You know, like, both. add it up, put it on my tab. And at the time, me and my buddy were driving around stealing people's lawn ornaments. So I had a trunk full of solar-powered light. So the back of my car was like the sun. And this guy, I'm hammered drunk, goes back to his car, comes back to me, and just gives me a warning for the night.
Starting point is 00:29:39 He had no questions about why my car was illuminated, nothing. It was like, one o'clock in the morning. He's like, I want to go home. She's like, fuck this guy. I'm not going to go home. So just things like that, dude, just kept happening. And then I got pulled over by a lesbian police officer. She was the one that took me to jail.
Starting point is 00:29:55 She saw right through this. She was like, no. See, it takes a woman to know exactly what's going on inside a man's heart. Oh, yeah. And I was on another level, dude. Or liver. So what happened? Did you know right away?
Starting point is 00:30:07 She wasn't fucking around. No way, dude. I thought, I looked at my buddy and I was like, I'll be right back. Like, we had beers in the car with us. Whoa. Oh, yeah. And, yeah, dude, I fucked myself so bad. Whatever chance I had to get out of it, I ruined it immediately because during the evaluation
Starting point is 00:30:26 where they're like, you know, do your alphabet, she had me doing my balance on one foot. And I started taunting her with how good I was at balancing on one foot. Instead of just doing the thing, I was like, mm-hmm, one-thous-thousand-two-one. You know, I was just being the fucking asshole. She's like, I want to take this piece of jail. Oh, yeah. She took me directly. What happened?
Starting point is 00:30:48 Your boy? My son? Or my buddy. My son was not in the crowd. I was like, my boy had that. Nothing. He got a, he got picked up and drove home. Oh, did what she said, she said, were you two, are you drunk too?
Starting point is 00:31:00 Can you drive this car or what? I don't even remember. I was in the police car within like five minutes of pulling over. So I had no idea what was going on in the outside world. So, but, uh, dude, no, being in jail, though, I was, it was May 25th, 2012. So I was like 23 or 22 and dude, I was so vividly remember like holding the jail cell bars and just feeling like I was turning into my dad. I had this like this straight vision of like you're turning into your fucking dad, bro. And literally after that night in jail, I mean, I didn't quit drinking forever, but that changed my fucking life, dude.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Yeah, well, thank God you didn't like kill anyone and think I know I know Dude the cop the cop that arrested me actually this year. I did a show in Naples Florida she came out to the show and we met after it was really cool Did you do crowd work? Did she did you talk to her out of stage? Yeah, yeah I mean not a ton I had coordinated it behind the scene so I knew she was coming And it was just so fucking powerful like hey I arrested you Yeah no I actually made a video it's funny because I made the video looking for her But the reality was I made the video because the tickets weren't moving very much.
Starting point is 00:32:17 So I was like, oh, I got to do something to fucking bring up that I'm doing a show down in Naples. So the video went viral as shit, dude. Ticket sales were great. She came out to the show and watched and we did she give me a hug after the show. Oh, dude, she was awesome. She was super cool. Dude, that's so, that is an amazing story. 13 years later.
Starting point is 00:32:36 What was it? Yeah. Yeah, no, yeah, 13 years later. Hello, everyone. It's Adi Frasco, your local drunk. We're here to support Gardinista. Gardinista, our sponsors. I've been sub-intuned this from Jameson
Starting point is 00:32:48 because I like the idea that there's ginger, lime juice, and green herbs in this. So I kind of feel healthy drink in this. I mean, they got all these different ones. Like, I was kind of nervous about this bourbon cocktail, but it's bourbon whiskey and green herbs, lime juice, ginger, and jalapagia. It's got a little spice to it,
Starting point is 00:33:04 but you put some ice in it, and it's actually a cocktail. And, like, I'm not really good at proportions. So it's already made for you. Look at this. It's cute, too. You could be on your table. You're like, oh, look at you're sophisticated. Do you want pop off on your kitchen table, or do you want something that's pretty?
Starting point is 00:33:21 Gardinista, vodka cocktail. Grab it. Tell them Frasco sent you. Isn't it crazy? We're running away from being our parents, and then right when we stopped thinking about it, it's just in us that we are our parents. Yeah, well, everyone, that don't. I mean, if your parents were, like, pieces of shit that you don't want to be like or emulate,
Starting point is 00:33:42 Yeah, dude, like that darkness is within. It's just constant daily choices to not get. I mean, dude, it's easy. It's easy to make that. Anyone can make a fucking bad decision. Yeah. It takes fucking strength and guts to not do the easy thing. Yeah, and, you know, when we're, when we're born, we're a blank piece of paper,
Starting point is 00:34:01 and we're just learning from our parents. So like, well, unless you're born, like, high on heroin, then that's, you know, then you're starting kind of. Hold on, were you, were your parents high on heroin when they had you? No, I mean, maybe. I don't know. Actually, it's funny. I was like, it was before my parents died, so it was like 12 years ago. My dad called me.
Starting point is 00:34:20 He was super fucked up. Just randomly wanted to tell me that my mom did crack while she was pregnant with me. I was like, thanks, you a fucking piece of shit. Well, that'll be good in the set. You're like, no wonder why I have five fucking businesses and have three kids fucking contour and all this stuff. Is this why I come, crystals? I wonder I moved to Florida. Oh, what a fucking, what a story, man.
Starting point is 00:34:41 So, you know, it's like to, you know, it's like, thanks for being completely vulnerable with this. You know, I'd like to end this conversation always with, you know, when it's all said and done, like, from the man you were to the man you are now, what do you want to be remembered by? Oh, man. That's a big one. Yeah, yeah, sorry about that. Dude, I think, you know, man, I think, I guess two parts, right? I think from the general, like, outside view of Derek is, um, it doesn't, it doesn't matter where you came from, you know, like if you, and it's not, it's not fucking gay, like, just do
Starting point is 00:35:22 the right thing, you know, it's like, it takes fucking guts, dude, like, it takes fucking guts and grit and determination to get the shit. And it's not even guaranteed. You can work your fucking balls off for your whole fucking life and get nothing out of it. So I try to live a life without expectations. You know, like I do, I think I'm a relatively good dude. And there's no expectations on the other side of it, man. I just try not to fuck people over.
Starting point is 00:35:50 And I take risks for myself and for my family. And I've gotten really lucky that some of them have paid off for the better. And the other side of it, man, is on my family. Like, I want my fucking kid. I have this huge painting in my living room. And my, my wife's grandmother. We used to go up there for holidays for like Thanksgiving and shit. She had this fucking huge, super crazy painting of like, uh, like indigenous people like
Starting point is 00:36:15 in the ocean. It looks borderline racist a little bit. So, but it's fucking massive. And to me that painting always meant like family togetherness. Like we were up there. We were all together as a family. So now that hangs up in my living room. And for me it means like when my kids, when I'm like 60, 70, 80, I still want my kids to
Starting point is 00:36:36 come to my fucking house and want to see me. Yeah, totally. Contrary to, like, what I grew up. Like, I couldn't get away from my parents fast enough. Yeah. And I want my kids to look at me as someone that they're, like, they're proud to call their dad. Yeah, and I love this quote.
Starting point is 00:36:51 People are so afraid to be failures, but failures is a gift. Be a scrappy squirrel. I fucking love that. I believe in that. You had me. It was great. Scrappy squirrel kind of took the energy out of me a little bit, but it's a fucking, the beginning was cool.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Well, keep the dream alive, buddy. Let me know if you want to start a new business. I'm ready to do one with you. Got you, pal. I know you need a couple more things to do. He's good at selling T-shirts. You guys go in together. So after this conversation, I realized I'm going to just have a dog.
Starting point is 00:37:20 I think that's the move instead of having a kid. So thanks for reminding me about that. You have any questions for our man? I think he nailed it all, man. Dude, that was fucking awesome. You're the goat. Keep working hard. Who's your favorite kid?
Starting point is 00:37:34 Who's your favorite kid? Oh shit I think they're You know Who knows when I'll listen to this I'm gonna say Yeah Oh they're all dangling it off a quick
Starting point is 00:37:43 You can only save one Yeah You let them all go Let them No no I'd go with them If I'd go with them They're all Having them spread out in age man
Starting point is 00:37:54 They're all my favorites For different reasons dude You know Like Landon's cool Not to You know Not to close on I'm super sappy piece
Starting point is 00:38:00 But you know Landon's a fucking Young man bro Like it's super cool to see him, although he pisses me the fuck off on a daily basis. He's about to go become a man. And Ophelia is just such
Starting point is 00:38:13 this fucking sweet girl, bro, like, sassy as fucking commanding. It's like, where did she get it from? And Rowan's just wild as fuck, bro. Like, they're just so cool in their own ways. So I would have, you know, dude, I would actually say, go just have a kid. Like, fuck a hooker, take custody of the kid and just see what happens.
Starting point is 00:38:29 That's great advice, actually. Jack, put that in my notes. Have sex. Don't use a condom. Don't use a condom. No, absolutely not. Keep rocking. We'll be rooting you on, man.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Good to see you. Oh, yeah. Thanks, brother. See you later, man. Cheers. Hey, everybody. It's Nick. You just listened to another great episode,
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