Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 128: Matty Matheson

Episode Date: June 15, 2021

Join us, won't you... on a Journey to the Center of Andy's Alcoholism. Or could it be the band was just in NOLA? Listen to the sordid tale within and discover the truth! And on the Interview Hour we welcome Canadian Chef & true inspiration of a human being: Matty Matheson! Andy gushes; Matty indulges. It's rad. Shawn covers Fruition and Andy closes with exciting news about a Fall tour... and talent show?? This is EP 128. Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out Andy's new song, "Love Hard" on iTunes, Spotify  Get to know the guy: Matty Matheson  Shawn covers Fruition and they rule.  Produced by Andy Frasco Joe Angelhow Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Andee "Beats" Avila Shawn Eckels Joe McDermott Arno Bakker

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Andy Frasco's World's Saved Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco. How's everyone doing? How's our heads? We staying out of trouble? We not letting the demons of overworking? Because right now, shit's coming back. And I know a lot of people are just starting to get slammed and stuff.

And I just want you to know that you're doing a good job. You can't be everywhere. I'm saying this to myself as well, not just everyone else. But you're doing a good job. I know you can't be everywhere. I know work is hard sometimes. And you just got to take a step back and say, I am trying my best. So, God damn it.

I hope you're trying your best. You want to play the music? You're trying your God damn best. And if you're not, try fucking hard. I'm just kidding. But you know what it is. It's fucking tough to be overworked and focused. So stay on the right path. Don't let the fucking demons get to you

because they will fuck you. They will fuck you without a condom or a iud and they'll give you that bad sweat what am i talking about today uh man i just got back from new orleans which was fucking insane um i love new orleans i i have the same feeling towards charleston where i could probably uh not live there because feeling towards Charleston where I could probably not live there because I mean I don't have self control you know I'm out

getting fucking blacked out drunk till 6am and the best part about that of New Orleans is that is completely accepted so shout out to New Orleans fucking what a city what a fucking city that city is holy shit

we played the Hogs for the Cause Festival. It was such a, oh man, I was crying up there. We did, I've been crying a lot. I'm just like, maybe because I'm present now and I'm just understanding like what a gift life is. You know, you never know when it's your turn to leave. So it's like when people, you know, and like we had to do this event. Not we had to, we wanted to because it's your turn to leave. So it's like when people, and we had to do this event,

not we had to, we wanted to, because it's an awesome foundation, awesome cause, but they're raising money for brain cancer, for patients with brain cancer and their families who have to deal with the bills. It's expensive to have a cancer. And like, fuck, I just feel so bad for some of these kids and like all the kids, anyone who has cancer.

Just fucked up and what it does to the family and how much stress to get these bills paid and stuff. But out of all the things that's done, shout out to Home Team Barbecue. The team, Charleston, my people, they raised $400,000. Fuck, let's go. Home Team. The cooks, the chefs, the visionaries of what food is. But they raised $2.8 million. All the barbecue chefs around the country, they raised $2.8 million in a pandemic. And I'm just so thankful to be part of it.

just so thankful to be part of it. Home team barbecue took me out for the weekend. And yeah, we just celebrated. We ate all the foods, all the fucking foods, and we drank all the alcohol. And my fucking, my stomach is like, Andy, chill. This is what happened in Charleston. You know, Charleston, I was doing it for two weeks in a row. Just a straight bender. This was only a three-day bender. So I feel better. But I didn't do coke. Let's go. Let's go.

Shouting out to me. Get it that one time after the Red Rocks show. Couldn't believe I had a party. But yeah, New Orleans is amazing. You don't realize when you're in your bubble, this quarantine, like you get stuck in your town. And you don't realize some of these towns that rely on tourists. And Nala, after Mardi Gras, when they spread the COVID around like an STD up in that, they shut everything down. And when a city is built on bars and venues,

it's so hard. That's extremely harder for a city like that to completely shut down your tourism because that ruins the economy for the year. And to see dudes like Stu from the Howlin' Wolf, shout out to Stu too. I'm shouting out to everyone. New Orleans is a fucking special place. And like from the venue owners to the bartenders to the homeless,

you could have a conversation with anyone and everyone puts you in the same place. And that's the beautiful part of New Orleans is no one is afraid to talk to anyone. It doesn't matter how famous you are or how poor you are, or if you live on the street or if you're at begging for money, I mean, everyone gives you the same respect. And, uh, from what I've learned from New Orleans, that's, I, you know, that's what I strive to be as a person is to give everyone the same respect

that you want, that you want to have a conversation with, even if you just got to give people respect and hear people out and not just shoo them away because you think they think one way when really they're bright. We're no different. Everyone is close to the same. We're humans.

It's not just like one person thinks one way and the other person thinks the other way. Maybe we wear different costumes, but the same ideological ideology i think i just made up a word there but you know what i'm talking about the genetics we're still the same we go through the same ups and downs of life and we need to take a step back and realize everyone is fucking important so and that's what new orleans taught me and Stu, shout out to Stu, like I was saying, from the Howlin' Wolf, he books the Howlin' Wolf. He, throughout the whole COVID thing,

was making awareness for musicians to get fed. He was feeding. You don't realize how many musicians lost their jobs this year, especially in New Orleans when that city is built on music. And he was out there every Wednesday or Thursday, I can't remember, but feeding everyone, feeding all the musicians, bringing them food, them coming to the Howlin' Wolf.

It shows how important this music community is and how much I just fucking adore New Orleans. So shout out to New Orleans. Speaking of New Orleans, we are playing Jazz Fest. We just announced that on Monday, October 14th at the House of Blues. Let's fucking go. Fuck yeah. I don't know if I could announce my opener, but she's a badass. She's from New York.

She plays bass. I had her on the podcast, but I won't say the name because I don't know if she's officially announced, but I'm so stoked. Come on out. It's a big show. It's a thousand tickets we've got to sell in New Orleans. So buy them up

if Jazz Fest is happening. October's crazy. I feel bad for all these guys who have to book Jazz Fest in October. Then they're going back to April to book a whole fucking city of shows. So shout out to New Orleans and all the bookers and stuff. But I really did have a blast. Got to hang out with a lot of old friends. Samantha Fish was there. I had to have a beer with her. It's always great catching

up with her. David Shaw, the revivalist. Fucking bad asses. They actually came to Denver and played Red Rocks. Thursday Friday, hung out, but it was David Shaw's birthday. Happy birthday, David. David Shaw, 38 years old. Like fine wine. That guy gets hotter and hotter every year, you know? Respect, because

I'm getting more burnt out as years go by. So I got to do the David Shaw treatment on my body, take care of myself, work out, get my mind right. But it was so nice to see the revivalists. I love those boys. Dave's putting out a solo record,

and that's got to be weird and hard to have a band and then go do a solo thing. There's got to be a lot of emotions, a lot of things going on. I don't really ask them about that. It's got to be a lot of emotions, a lot of things going on. I don't really ask them about that. It's not my business, but it's got to be weird transitions of playing 3,000 people a night

to 500 or 1,000 people a night or 300, whatever it is. So shout out to Dave putting his dick out there. Let's go, Dave. Put your dick out there, buddy. Go get it. Go get that. Speaking of putting your dick out there, have you signed up for Repsy? Yes. Repsy. I talk about this

all the time. They're my boys out of Alabama. They're here to have your back. If you have a booking agent, they're not taking a percentage. It's website where your band you could put your band I told them they should put comedians up there they should put all sword swallowers anything involving getting a gig because like I said entertainment is important especially when you're feeling down feeling low this is going to be the renaissance

we're back at it people are going to be happy so go sign up for Repsy Repsy offers significant better deals for the same gig. They also don't dictate how artists operate. Repsy is never going to force someone to raise their prices or dictate how they do business. You are in control. So if you're in a band, it's a win-win situation. So go sign up for Repsy at Repsy.com. Get another agent on your list. You know, I've been working.

I've been fucking working my ass off. You know, last month was crazy. I wrote a whole record, probably did about 10 interviews and, you know, dance parties and getting ready for Red Rocks and going on tour all last month. You don't realize how important your team is. So shout out to the 7S management. Shout out to Rachel. Shout out to Brian.

I know I'm crazy sometimes. You know, sometimes we all get in our head about if we're going to get all the work done. And sometimes I'm a little crazy in the mornings when I get anxiety. So shout out to y'all for dealing with me, but might as well add another guy on the team. That's why you have Repsy. So go out there, sign up for Repsy.com. The dance party was sick on Saturday. We're back, me and DJ Sleepy back on the saddle. So great to see all those fucking people. I can't believe how many people

watch that thing. It just makes me so happy and I hope you're having fun because I'm still having fun and I'll keep doing it if you want me to do it and to see all the new fans like I saw a lot of people just who found out about me and my band who came out to the Red Rock Show because they saw we were on Twitch and doing the dance party

so whatever way you want to ingest me if it's a dance party, music or podcast, I just appreciate all of it. So thank you so much. We leave for tour tomorrow. Holy fuck. Leaving for tour. The band's fucking juiced up. We're playing new songs. I'm like, fucking, I don't want to blow my load too quickly. That's the problem with when you make a record. You're like, ah, let's play the songs immediately. And then you play all the songs immediately,

and then everyone's heard the songs, and then they're like, oh, the album comes out next year. It's like, fuck. And so we're trying to plan it, just kind of sprinkle in some teasers every now and then. But this is a new mind state for this band. Used to be like just you know play what works now we're in a mind state like let's play different let's play let's try to see what else works and uh so i'm really excited for you to see the the evolution of uh the frasco band and everyone is just pulling their weight shout out out to my band. Shout out to my band. Fucking yeah.

They know I'm working, doing my brains in five different places and they're keeping me present when I'm playing music. I can't wait to play with them for the next two weeks. We're in Wichita Falls tonight. 16th

Oklahoma City. 17th Kansas City, Missouri. 18th is Cedar Rapids, and then we're playing a wedding in Cedar Rapids on the 19th. Omaha, Nebraska on the 20th. 22nd is Aurora, Illinois. St. Louis, Missouri. Indianapolis on the 24th. 25th and 26th, Columbus, Ohio. Those are sold out, but all the rest of them just raised the capacity so I think there's like you know maybe 20 to 100 extra tickets in each town so go out there and support

Tommy and support our boys and let's sell these out it's good to be back in the Midwest it's good to be back in the Midwest people are friendly it's going to be awesome I'm also going to be not only am I playing Peach Fest, they just hired me to be the correspondent.

So I am going to be on location interviewing. Me and, I'm going to try to see if Nick Gerlach can do it with me. We're going to be like Billy on the Street, but it's going to be Frasco in the water park. And I'm just going to start interviewing all the people at Peach Fest. And we're going to interview fans. We're going to interview artists. And we're just going to have a great, great vibe there.

And I can't wait. So shout out to Live Nation. Shout out to Peach Fest for booking me. I wanted to do it. I asked them. I emailed them. I'm like, hey, can I try this out? And they're like, fuck yeah, you can.

So thank you so much. So that's Peach Fest, July 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. But yeah, we got Maddie Madison on the show. Fuck yes. Dude, if you don't know who Maddie Madison is, he had a show. He's had a bunch of shows. He's a chef. He's got multiple restaurants.

He had a show on Viceland. Now he has some shows on YouTube and he has a cookbook and New York bestseller. He's just, this guy is my, he's one of my idols. He works very hard. And to have that many businesses and still have a clean head on his head, respect to Matty.

And this interview was everything I wanted. And this is how I met Trixie Mattel too. It was like, I love Viceland. They had Maddie's show. They had Trixie's show. They had, um, I think Hamilton's Pharmatopia or I think I was saying it right, but all these great shows. Oh, Dasis and Mero fucking, that was when Vice was popping. Then they just, you know, I don't know what happened, but everyone left. And then I don't know, never really heard from Viceland ever since. But great shows.

And just to hear him talk about getting through his coke addiction. He had a heart attack at 29 and how he just cleaned up and got his mind straight and got successful. And his restaurant was so successful before he got all the vice and stuff, but he really dialed it in.

He's got a great community, and I'm just so thankful I got to interview him. So I can't wait for you to listen to that. I'm blabbering. This is a long intro, but I'm stoked. We got a lot of things going on. I hope you have a lot of things going on. If you don't, that's okay too.

Fuck it. Take a break still. Chill out. Fucking, we had to deal with so much anxiety through this quarantine that it's okay to not work too. Just take a breath. When you're ready, you're ready.

But when you get out there, you fucking get out there, okay? Follow those dreams, baby. You want to get laid? Wear condoms or IUDs. It is hot bod season coming up. So go get after that shit.

Go get laid. Go have fun. You know? People are smiling. People are on the streets again. You know? That's... I'm getting so emotional. It's just like being on an airport. people smiling and traveling again and being at the bars

and hugging your friends it's slowly coming back and we fucking made it and you deserve it you deserve to happiness you know it's a hard thing not a lot of people have dealt with a fucking pandemic

or staying in their fucking house so give yourself more credit Go fucking take over this week. Make this week your little, I don't want to say bitch because that's kind of rude. I'm trying to be more peachy. Make this fucking week yours. Follow those dreams. Stay happy. Stay inspired. And we're going to fuck shit up. All right, guys. Enjoy. Maddie Madison. I'll catch you on the tail end.

And don't forget to smile. You're worth it. All right. Next up on the interview hour, we have Maddie Madison. Yo, Chris, play some metal music. I know he's not a musician, but play anything fucking heavy, because this guy is the GOAT.

He has restaurants, he has television shows. The man has done it all, and I'm just so thankful. During the quarantine, he set up this barbecue shack in Canada, then he did a taco shack, and then he did a burger shack, and he was on Viceland for Dead Set on Life. He had a show

called It's Supper Time, and now he's doing a show on YouTube, and I love him. So ladies and gentlemen, please enjoy the conversation I had with Matty Madison. maddie what the fuck is up dude what's up where are you i'm in my uh studio i got a blanket and uh fucking you know it's a fucking i'm in my behind like my new like youtube studio thingy how's that going yeah tell me about the move from from vice to youtube and you get to be your own creator basically uh just fucking tough questions right off the fucking bat. You know, just fucking own your shit. I don't know. I think it's like the greatest thing

that ever happened to me. Not the greatest. I shouldn't say the fucking greatest thing. But fucking, you know, working with Vice, you know,

got some attention and then what it taught me was how to get fucking scrappy uh you know got some attention and then and then it what it taught me was how to get fucking scrappy you know and and make shit out of kind of nothing uh and um taught me how to like produce our own shit and uh create and be able to understand how to make stuff and and then um you know and then I just started making stuff and, uh, figured it out kind of, and, uh, just started making my own shit. It's awesome, man. Do you think it's like the idea of not overthinking creativity?

Yeah. Creativity. Like it's, uh, I'm like, uh, I'm not an inspiration guy. I'm a work guy. So it was just like, um, you know, I think, I don't know. I think it's one of those things where it's just like I cook, I make people laugh, I do that. You know, it's very, I do two things. I'm able to make people laugh through cooking, you know? Yeah. And that's kind of what I do.

And that's in different kind of levels and different kinds of fucking spaces. And that's really, I don't know. It's pretty amazing. You know, it's like just overworking. Do you ever feel like you're overworking? Yeah. I'm riddled with anxieties constantly. Right now, I'm crushed.

But, you know, it it's, it's, um, I don't know. I, I, I lied to myself often. I feel, you know, saying everything's all right. Everything's worth it. And, um, you know, I, sometimes I forget that I'm like, I'm in control and I can say no. And, uh, I think like literally I'm like, oh yeah, I'm the boss. I think like literally I'm like, Oh yeah, I'm the boss. I can like, I'm just like, I'm fucking, uh, I'm all like, you know,

I don't have to do that next fucking ad. I don't have to do that next trip. Well, not right now. There hasn't been trips, but it's just like, um, you know, it's, it's, it's, um, I don't know, but it's also like in my head, it is, uh, I work, you know, I work every day, uh, all the time. And, um, you know, on the weekends it's like, because I have so many different kind of divisions that I've built out. So it's just like in different time zones and shit. So it's just like, uh, yeah, I don't know. I, I, I, I, I see the return, you know, I get the know. I see the return. I get the happiness that I get and I'm grateful for the happiness that my job and my life give me. And it's not,

it's certainly not doom and gloom. I'm making shit that I like making. I'm hanging out with people I like hanging out with. I have a beautiful family and i got a beautiful team and uh you know i'm fucking i i have the you know the best life that i've you know i gotta fuck i got the best life you know let's fucking go that's my boy man go let's fucking go how you know now how do you how did you deal with um anxiety when you were like all coked up stuff uh more just do more yeah i was like i want to talk about the heart attack and it was like but dude back then i didn't have like uh you know it's been like nine years now but it's like

fucking um back then I didn't have responsibilities. I didn't, dude, I didn't have kids. I didn't have, uh, businesses. I didn't have fucking employees. I was just like a monster chef that like, um, had a lot of ego and I just didn't deal with anxieties. I didn't have, um, you know, I was definitely one of those people that was like, I was like a good time psychopath guy, you know, like I wasn't like, um, at the end of it, I was pretty gnarly at the end of it kind of thing. Cause I, I pushed away from everything. Um, you know, I, I wasn't allowed to go to certain bars. I wasn't allowed to hang out with certain people. And, and I just kept on kind of going down the tunnel and, uh,

certain people and and i just kept on kind of going down the tunnel and uh at the end of the tunnel there isn't really much there for you yeah um you know and uh but the anxieties is like i didn't even understand what anxieties it was a lot like the only thing that would really create anxiety like i would go to work i would cook i had one job i was a chef you know at that like my drug use i was just a chef i didn't have youtube i didn't have like vice was i made like three videos with vice and then i had like uh and then i had my like intervention or whatever but it was just like i i honestly like um the anxiety was from from the lying i think that's what breaks most people people that they don't really realize is the amount of lying that you're continuously doing to yourself and to other people that really,

and it created a lot of, I think mental duress or whatever the fuck to me, that's for sure. And that was like the easiest thing to kind of give up was when I was just like, if I, if I stopped doing drugs, I can maybe have a chance to stop lying.

Yeah, that was what I was going to ask. Did the intervention help you with your suppression? Yeah, well, it helped me with everything. It gave me my life back listening to people. Go figure. I think, you know, it took a while to like relearn how to live. You know, it took a long time to learn how to be myself, you know. So yeah, every day, it's still to this day, you know. I'm still writing gratitude lists, you know.

I'm still putting in work. I'm still writing gratitude lists you know still put in work so it still is one of those things that it was you know it's the biggest stepping stone to regaining a life you know and within that the suppression

of anxieties and the suppression of fear and the you know the entire suppression of your own self you can start regaining it, taking off the veils, the clouded lies that you build up on yourself. How old were you when you had, just for my listeners, tell me a little bit about how old were you when you had your heart attack?

When what happened? What do you think? Well, for all you fucking listeners out there i was 29 years old and uh after about a three-day binge uh i crashed and had a um you know just went to bed it was after like you know like a go oh not a three-day binge it was like a 15 year long run going hard as i can and as as often as i can and and um you know i was a highly functioning drug addict you know i was at the height of my game you know back back when i was you know this young hot shot fucking loser chef and um uh yeah when i was i was 19 i think it was like one of those things i just ran out of juice. Ran out of juice.

My body was like, yo, fuck yourself. I'm fucking going to tweak out. And I had it in my sleep because I thought I was going to have it. I thought it was just one of those things. I woke up at five in the morning. I was just like, yo. And I just kind of laid in bed. And I'm just like, this is a fucking pain that I've never really felt.

And I've had lots of palpitations. When you're doing the drugs, you're doing the palpitations often, probably, you know, anyone that's out there fucking sucking on the bag. But I think it's, you know, it was just like a pain that I never felt before. It was like an uncompromising clenching thing that I was feeling. I just was feeling this like thing where it was like, it felt like my heart was like in a vice grip. And then I was just like, yo, Trish, take me to the hospital.

And then she like even like, she dropped me off and still like went to work. Like I like walked in because I was just like, you know, like I'm like, I'm not having a heart attack. I feel like I may be having a heart attack. And then when I went into the hospital, you know i went in and and you like check your lists of like everything you're like yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep and then and then as soon as you

say heart though like they take you serious you're like i think i'm having a heart attack or i think i i don't know there's something happening inside of my body most of the time it's probably anxiety written or whatever the fuck it is and then um when they take your blood so they rush you in like as soon as you kind of say heart they kind of like push you through i didn't have to like wait or anything i just like went directly to like a nurse and then they took your blood and then your enzymes change in your blood so then after you have a heart attack it kind of flips your fucking blood cells and so uh they were like you had a heart attack like four hours ago and i was just like oh perfect so i'm alive let's get it and so then i was just kind of like cool so then like i can just deal

with this and i can go home and they were like no you know they're like no no You had a heart attack You need to fucking lay down On a bed And we need to do like some tests And so then I got like set up to all the monitors And set up to all the things And before I did that It was so funny, I even like I was like, can I call

Like my partner Like I wasn't married at the time, but I was just like Can I call like my girlfriend And maybe like, can I call my girlfriend? I'll call my folks, maybe. Just talk to them. I went outside and I had a cigarette. I still got a fucking pack of smokes in my jeans and I'm just smoking a smoke.

Hey, mom, hey, dad. The doctors are saying I had a heart attack, but I'm in the parking lot. I'm walking around. We're doing good. Just belittling the entire experience you know is that suppression huh was that suppression that's surprising yeah well mentally i feel like yeah i'm just like not i'm making jokes about it like you know like i'm outside smoking a cigarette being like i i made it through um it didn't take it took like a couple days.

It's one of those things where it took... I was in the hospital. I ended up being in the hospital for just over a week because you have to stay in the hospital until my blood count and my enzymes and all that kind of shit. They take your blood every two hours, which was really amazing

because it's fucking... I'm a fat dude with like fucking oh no you can't fucking see shit and i'm fucking i got little fatty little you know whatever fucking these are called yeah areas you know elbow reverse elbows and um so you know five days of getting fucking you know your blood taken every two fucking hours 24 hours a day it's really fun did they see all like did they tell you to did they force you not to do coke anymore or like what was that like well no force i don't know um like said you will die if you do any more coke oh yeah i don't know maybe i don't remember what the fuck anybody said um you know like it was

one of those things where it's still like i i after the heart attack it was just like that's when i turned into like a full freak so like that was the moment um when uh you know the lie that's when i i feel like i turned into an addict like i feel like i was always kind of like an addict, but I was like, I was never, I wasn't like a, like, I wasn't like, you know, I never had to lie before. Right. So then, so like at 29, I had my heart attack, get out of the hospital, you know, a great opportunity to, to start a new life. And, and, and, you know, you know, get having a heart attack. Obviously, it's not like I was like partying a little bit. And, and it was just and, you know, you know, get having a heart attack. Obviously it's not like I was like partying a little bit and, and it was just like, you know, cause I was like a big drinker, big drug user.

I'd do any, literally any drug. And, and, um, but, but, but the thing was, um, you know, it was the, I never had to lie before. I was always like a lot, like, it was like, I was always like, I was the party guy. So it was like, never, like, nobody was ever like, Matt was like never like nobody was ever like mad he's getting crazy maddie always was crazy yeah so so it was one of those things where i was like never and i wasn't like an asshole yeah well i was i'm sure at certain times but i was always like the jovial funny class clown attention seeking you know look at me party guy um obviously you could probably tell from some of the videos i

make that i you know yeah the personality that i've kind of created is definitely like how i used to party be like with the yelling and the screaming and kind of thing and um and but the thing that the biggest thing that changed was i had to lock because you know everyone around me was like well i'm not selling like all like I'm friends with all my dealers. I'm friends with everybody. I'm friends – like a lot of people are like, well, you're not doing coke here, and you're not coming to my bar. You're not going to die in my bar. I don't – I can't have Maddie.

Like fuck off, Maddie. Like go home. And so that's when shit went weird, and I was just like that's when I turned kind of nasty and when I started lying and going to, you know, cuttier bars and cuttier neighborhoods, and you start going to these places that like, maybe you wouldn't go before, but nobody knows who I am. I can go there. I can drink. I can, you know, who's got Coke in the bar. Who's got drugs in the bar. Who's this person. And then all of a sudden, you know, you quickly kind of tumble down into the fucking nothingness. And, know and then and then you you set up these different parameters right like different your move the goalpost you're like okay when i

first it was like okay i'm not gonna drink whiskey anymore when i first like the first time and i was like i'm only gonna drink beer okay i'm only gonna drink beer and then and then it's like okay i'm just like not gonna do coke and i'm just gonna drink beer and i'll drink beer and get and then and then it's like okay i'm just like not gonna do coke and i'm just gonna drink beer and i'll drink beer and get and then i'm just like you know you crack a beer and you're like call somebody you know like it's just like you crack you look at a beer and you're like where's the bag at and so it's just like and it's just i'm the guy like i'm just like in a position where also i know everybody in my city that sells drugs and I know everybody that does drugs. So like, you know, maybe that person doesn't know I haven't had a

heart attack. Cause this was like pretty like before like social media really was popping, right. You know, before your entire lives were online or, you know, choose to put online, whatever. And, and, um, and that's just when I started like lying and doing stuff. I mean, like I'm not high on drugs and I'm not drinking. And I, you know, oh yeah, like I did a couple shots, you know. And then you just keep on lying to yourself and moving the goalposts. And you just fucking rat fuck yourself. Yeah, totally, man.

I mean, was your restaurant, was this during the parts and labor? Yeah, this is all, yeah, parts and labor yeah this is all yeah parts and labor and that was shit was popping oh it was it was like the greatest place on earth to me like we designed like we made the ultimate thing we could serve really good food upstairs party in the basement like we had that perfect setup where you know you have djs or punk bands or metal bands or fucking whatever the fuck in the basement and it was just chaos it was like everything and then upstairs would just turn into it was like an old warehouse with just like 12 large tables everybody would book like birthday part like we called it used to call ourselves just chucky cheese because it was just

like every everybody like where can you get a table of 12 in the city well guess what at parts of labor we only have tables of 12 so like every single table was a fucking party and downstairs was like oh there's people are like people from upstairs we would just like start playing like super loud rap or whatever the fuck and then downstairs we would have like punk bands most of the time or like hardcore bands or fucking like indie bands or whatever and you know it would be like we would have like sick bands play because it was like a perfect thing where like a bigger band would come and play and you know it would be sick because they would just play because they're the homies you know you get like mac demarco to play downstairs there's 200 people you know you get

fucking like all that kind of that that's the vibe of like what's happening at parts and labor back in the day you get fucking bands like power trip and like fucking all the great metal bands or like whatever the fuck it is and you get them to play in the basement and then you go upstairs and you're like having like you know fucking really good fried chicken and giant steaks and fucking it's just like a vibe like it was just like an ultimate fucking vibe that was designed to party and facilitate what we thought was important was that the dream in the beginning oh my god that was the dude parts of labor was my that was it i was it was dude at 27 i opened that place it was like it was it was incredible it was like two years into opening it maddie you had fucking, you had a heart attack?

Yeah. Okay. And then it went for 10 years. How hard was it to close the doors on your baby? Well, the thing is I never actually had ownership, right? I was the face. And I even say we opened it because it was me and Brian and key and Jesse and Richard. And so there was, there was, I was the chef, you know, I started working for them when I was 26. So I was just like when I was 26 and then I don't have, like, I'd had no money, you know, there was no reason

for them to make me a partner. You know, I didn't understand business back then. I was just like, and I became like the face of the company you know or one of the faces like everyone was a big personality like brian and key were like really great designers who i work with now with my cat like with my houseware thing that we're doing and then like richard and jesse were like nightclub guys and so like nightclub guys design guys and like this young crazy chef all came together and made this like insane restaurant without a business plan, without backers, without anything. And just like, you know, bored 50,000 bucks from a buddy and borrowed, you know, 25 K from somebody else. And like, just like threw it together. And, uh, you

know, it was, it was just like, it was the best. Like people would walk in a restaurant and be like, what is this place? And you're like, what do you mean? What is this place? This is a, this is called, this is a vibe. This is a thing. what is this place this is this is called this is a vibe this is a thing this is this is what it is this is a projection of all of us this is what a restaurant this is art this is a thing this is a place for people to come and get the fucking get the fucking sauce you know like let's get fucking nuts i love it and is there a lot of places like that where you're from or Or was that like one of the only places? people so you could have 150 people eating then like 100 people standing at the bar partying while there's 150 people eating and then have 200 psychopaths downstairs moshing or partying or listen watching fucking you know skrillex and diplo fucking dj after hours you know like it's

like one of those things that was just like it was just we were friends with everybody so it was just like a place in the city where everyone would come you know yeah that's fucking awesome it really reminds me of berlin in a sense like the white trash cafe and like those type of places you know i've never been to berlin but i've only heard really great things oh dude just like you know after hours or hooker houses and cocaine dens and just the whole, I'm not going to stereotype your place that way, but, you know, it's like it was a vibe, you know? Yeah, well, that's the thing. It was a place to fucking have fun.

Yeah, that's awesome. It was a place like to go and have fun, like period. So the restaurant was popping. And then what happened when you got the call from Vice? Or was that a plan? No, like that was just like the homies that was just like i never pitched a meeting like i never had to go in and like pitch a meeting it was just like let's make some like you guys are doing food like it was right at the perfect moment munchie started doing stuff yeah they're like hey like let's like i had enough friends that worked at vice and knew them over the years of whatever. And then

we made a cheeseburger. The first video was the cheeseburger video, the how-to video. We did Hangover Cures. Hangover Cures was, I think, the very first thing. Or maybe not. I forget. There's three episodes of a show called Hangover Cures where I would

take a chef, get them as fucked up as possible. Then the next day, they would have to make me a Hangover Cures where I would take a chef, get them as fucked up as possible. Then the next day, they would have to make me like a hangover cure. That's fucking dumb. I'm going to clap for you, Matty. Matty, you're the goat, dude. Do you create these ideas yourself? What's your creativity path?

It just comes up? Hangover Cures, they kind of came to me. We worked a little bit on that. Patrick came up with that idea. Because I was just like, I kept on trying to be like, hey, like, you know, you guys are doing food. Like let's do something. You guys are creating these videos with these chefs and doing like Chef's Night Out and doing munchies and all this crazy shit where you're going out and getting drunk. I was just like, finally, I was just like, this is like the spot where I belong kind of thing.

And it was one of those things where we fucking Made a bunch of shit And the process of creativity is just like Well the thing is After my heart attack Sorry not even After I got clean So like once I

Started going to fucking meetings and shit I was just like I made a phone call To my producers in New York. And I was just like, yo, I just want you to know I want to keep making stuff. But I'm sober now. And I don't know if we – I don't know. I was just like, I don't know who I'm going to be. I don't know what I'm going to do.

And then that was when Deadset on Life started. And they were just like, dude, we love you. Take your time. Figure shit out. And then that was when like dead set on life started. And they were just like, dude, we love you. Like, take your time, figure shit out. And like, let's figure something out. And, and when I was in, so before I had my heart attack, we were planning on opening up an even crazier bar. So me and Brian, we were talking about a place that was like smaller and crazier and like private. And like, it was like going to be the ultimate place. And it was, we were talking about a place that was like smaller and crazier and like private. And like, it was like going to be the ultimate place. And it was, we were going to name it a dead set on destruction.

And it, and, uh, which is named after a great Husker do song and fucking. So, and we were just going to call it DSOD. And when I was in the hospital, one of my dear friends wrote me this letter and saying at the end of it, kind of made a chirp. He's like, well, I guess you're not going to open up fucking Deadset on Destruction. Why don't you get like Deadset on Living? And at the same time, my friend Liam and Cancer Bats,

they were writing an album, and they ended up calling it like Deadset on Living. And then DSOL became kind of a thing. where is it i got like i got on my knuckles here dsol but we got it all like after i got out of the heart after i got out of the hospital we all kind of got these like whatever buddy tattoos and bullshit and and then the so the creative process was like i was going to travel and kind of get inspired and like you know dead set on living blah blah blah you know kind of thing and dead set on life. Cause they had like dead set on living.

And then I was just like, yo, do you care if I call a show like dead set on life? And then they were like, no, that's chill. And so then we made dead set on life and we got to travel the world for three seasons and fucking bop around and do some shit. And then, and then what else did we do? We did like it's supper time. And when we did it supper time, what else do we do? We did like at supper time.

And when we did at supper time, I was just like, yo, like traveling's cool. Like, you know, people that, you know, traveling for three years constantly is, uh, going from somebody who like really didn't travel, you know, I was a chef, you know, an actual chef running a restaurant to all of a sudden like traveling all over the world um you know it really fucked with me a little bit and i was like yo i just want to do like a fucking cooking show i make like i go to work monday to friday i shoot a cooking show and then that's when we made like it's supper time i was like yeah let's just make like a funny weirdo fucking it's supper time thing and uh once again it was just like that was easy let's just make like a funny weirdo fucking it's suppertime thing. And once again, it was just like, that was easy. And we just made it.

Fuck it. I don't know the creative process. I don't think about it. Like, it's just like, one of those things is like, I don't work with directors. I don't work with even like most of the time. It's like one producer maybe, you know? And it's like, we just, the thing about it is like, yo, like give me a set, give me some shit and I'll make you a show. And it's just like, that's the thing about it is like yo like give me a set give me some shit and i'll make you

a show and it's just like that's the thing like i don't like even and then when we went into just a dash and doing like our our own shit we literally for the first season of just a dash we're like let's not even send emails just show up with your camera stuff you don't even know what we're gonna cook i'm just gonna cook whatever the fuck i'm gonna cook and you're gonna shoot and that's the show and and that was it like i was just like yo like i just want to make a thing where it's not work it's truly like like let's just like cook you guys know how to shoot me no producers no pas no anybody it's literally two camera persons a sound person me and michelle who was our food stylist and it was just like and we made the show and then we edited and we made all of a sudden

us just like barking at each other and yelling at each other and like being like what the fuck fuck you you loser like oh my god this is the worst and fucking what the fuck because we would shoot two episodes a day and they were like 18 hour days. So like, you're just fried and we would do like six days in a row. So just like, we would do like 18 hour days, six days in a row. And the chaos would just, we were able to capture it.

And then the way that tort edits, cause the guy who shoots it edits it all. And except for a pal and I forget what another editor's name, but it's just like, we would just, that's it. You know, it's like,

we just captured the magic. We just got to go go in and like everyone knows how to play their instruments you know everyone knows how to fucking jam so we just jammed they're just like jessie dash is like a live album like that like it's just like it's not for everybody but if you if you want some live shit that's it you want to see the fuck ups you want to see the fucking little break of strings fucking whatever the fuck it is you know a shitty drum fill we got it because that's it you want to see the fuck ups you want to see the fucking little break of strings fucking whatever the fuck it is you know a shitty drum fill we got it because that's the magic that's the magic in between you know i'm more about like what's in between the fucking sauce you know like what's in between the the for me the beauty is the mistakes the beauty is the fucking mishaps

the beauty is like what is what we're trying to do you know yeah and you know that's why i that's why i started this interview asking about between viceland and youtube i feel like youtube is got to be less pressure yeah well yeah it is less pressure but it's also just like it's completely you right yeah if i like the thing too is like i'm not great for youtube because i swear in the way that I talk in the way that like, and guess what brands, they do like me, but guess what? Not like there's a lot of brands that don't like I'm now I understand how to like sell and have like somebody that deals with like all of our ads and deals with all of our fucking, you know, all that kind of infrastructure. So it's

just like one of those things where it's just like a lot of people want you for who you are. And then they're like, ah, Matty, can we get like live television Matty where I don't swear? And then I put it up and my fans are like, what the fuck is this bullshit? You know, like, you know, fucking sell out.

Like we can see what the fuck you're doing. Yeah, fuck you. And so it's just like one of those things. It's like the thing that I like about YouTube that truly it's just like sink or swim. Like, fuck you. And I like that where it's just like one of those things that's like the thing that I like about YouTube that truly it's just like sink or swim. Like, fuck you. And I like that where it's just like at least on YouTube, there's no like marketing rooms or like people like literally that. The thing, too, that I think with most television, like the drama of like you're making a show is the network pushing it the way that you want is the marketing.

They're pushing all this other shows. There's 20 other shows before your show guess what youtube it's a fucking ocean jump in whatever the fuck it is it's yours yeah fucking you know like start you jump in the ocean you start bucketing out water just pouring it on yourself but at least you're in the ocean doing it you know like it's one of those things where i don't fucking know i still don't even know i don't give a fuck i make what i will make it is what it is and it's like the next shirt like we're we're in this my new i just took a new studio and we're built it out and we're gonna start a new show where i'm like legitimately like i'm just gonna go grocery shopping and like pick some shit and like actually cook where it's not like hey i'm gonna cook like this crazy steak and this is like an algorithm and this i need to make like an ooey gooey stacked 16 chicken breasts

and fried chicken and fucking this and that like i'm like i just want to cook yeah i just want to like make a cooking show where i like actually just cook and get back to like basics of like i think my fans will really resonate with that because my shit now has gone so great even with like eat on america with benny yeah and it says like the next season of eat on america is the craziest shit i've ever done in my like it's like it's crazy and it's just like this is not cooking this is not food this is like this is us just making fucking content now yeah and say with just a dash just a dash is like a weird sitcom of like insanity making a cooking show and so i was just like i need to make maybe a cooking show so i'm just

like i'm thinking about like and and i'm older like i'm 39 now and i'm just like i got three kids i'm like chill i just want to like sit by the fucking beach and like hang out and like i just want to cook too like i want to make a cooking show where i'm like everything i cook at home i love making and i'm like why don't i just do that why don't i like not yell and just like talk like this and how i normally talk and like do almost like a whole new kind of like not even like a rebrand but just like a way to just be like yo do you do you fans only need me to have my shirt off And me yelling Or can I actually show you motherfuckers how to cook Yeah it's like basically the Prince philosophy Prince did whatever the fuck he wanted

You know Just because he had Red Corvette He didn't write every song like Red Corvette I mean that's like There's gotta be some like That's what I was gonna ask you There's gotta be some identity crisis Of the person you wanted to

be and who you were young and passionate versus just making content, you know, it's gotta be hard. Yeah. Like it is like, dude, it's, um,

you know, it's one of those things where it's just like, I think social media, especially now over the last, you know, year and a half, social media has consumed the entire planet in not the best way, I feel.

And it can consume you, man. And I think it's like, I'm trying to just get back to basics, I think, on the next show for sure. Because I'm like, I got enough crazy things. And I think the thing that I'm like, I definitely, you have to be careful. It's just

like how many times can i take my fucking shirt off in a promo photo how many times can i fuck it you know like everyone's like the best thing ever is like someone will be like do something crazy and like what does that mean you fucking idiots and like i just i don't understand like people are like do something crazy and like show me something that I've done online that is actually crazy. Yeah. Like, do you ever snap back? I just talk the way I fucking talk, you loser.

Do you snap back? Well, yeah, with photographers, well, now I'm in a place where I can. And I'm just like, what are you talking? Like, I'll just be like, what do you want? What's crazy to you? You want me to kick you in the fucking face? What's crazy?

You want me to throw like a beer in your face like what do you i don't understand what's crazy yeah and and as an artist wouldn't you want to see like a juxtaposition between who you are as an artist and me why don't you try to figure out what that is yeah you know like that's the thing is like i often think it's just like what are you adding to this you want me to just jump around and swing my arms and fucking scream or fucking – what do you want me to do? I'm just kind of like over the whole – I'm just like whatever. I'm like I don't need – because I don't see what I've done as crazy. I'm just able to be myself on camera, which most people can't even be themselves on camera when they have the opportunity.

They just turn into some like idiot and can't even do anything or they get edited in a way that makes them look like idiots too. Yeah, isn't art growth? You know? Why do we feel like we have to make the same art? Well, yeah, exactly. And it's just one of those things

where it's just like boring. It's boring to me. Whereas it's like, you know, I haven't put up a new, like everyone's always so crazy about the algorithm where it's just like, I haven't put up a new like everyone's always so crazy about the algorithm where it's just like i haven't put up anything on youtube since fucking january yeah you know like i haven't put anything fucking up and it's just like whatever like it's just one of those things where it's just like i'm not making content because i'm building other shit

and i'm working on other stuff and i'm just doing so everyone's like where's the new next cooking video i'm like i don't fucking know it'll come out when i'm done doing all this other shit i'm fucking doing you know like it is one of those things where it's um uh you know we'll get back to doing you know making our own shows all this other fucking bullshit but it's just like what i'm saying i don't get caught up in like um you know i don't get caught up in like uh consistency you know where i'm like i'm constant in me and i'm i like if i'm not doing constant like cooking videos i'm working on restaurants i'm working on like clothing stuff i'm working on books i'm working on you know my family i'm working on myself i'm working on like all this other shit where it's just like um you know i just think that like a

lot of people are like it is very difficult to do what i want because the thing is is like i want to do what i want to do you know yeah totally it's like what you said like it's just like it's just i don't want to be a youtuber i don't want i don't want to be a youtuber that's just a place where i put my fucking content you know yeah totally and like that's the thing too it's like with all this stuff going on you got a book you got fucking restaurants you got shows like how like you know going back to where your heart is like how hard is it to be a husband and a father hard hard i don't know it's um it's difficult you know like it's one of those things like having three kids that are like five and under. Yeah.

Having a partner like Trishy. Trishy is the best. She is the shit, dude. Dude, she's boss. She's the boss. But it's difficult. Life is difficult. And it's like even like traveling the way that i traveled

for the last eight years and then the pandemic hit where it's just like you know 2019 it's like i had like 200 flights around there and it's just like i i wasn't home longer than like six days in a row ever and and it was just like one of those things where it was like, that was kind of our life. That was our norm. That was, that was, that was very normalized the way that it was. I'd come home, be completely deflated and be like, Hey, I don't even, I just got back from like New Zealand and, uh, I'm going to Japan in three days. How are you doing? Yeah. Hey, how's your kid? Like, how's the kid? Like, you know, it was crazy. And you don't even know's your kid like how's the kid like you know it was crazy and you don't even know how to be like a father you're like like because tricia has her entire

life with the children and like at home and doing her thing and um you know and then you pop in and you pop out and then we got to really during the pandemic like the biggest silver lining is like being home for a fucking year and a half. Like, you know, like I've gone to LA twice now for two business trips. And it was just like, you know, I was away for like about a month just now. And it was like, you know, you got a taste of that old life. And you're like, I don't know if I want that. You know, like I'm like maybe like two weeks max.

We got to figure out a way to like I can go away for two weeks and then because it's just like rough like you're my kids are like yo like straight up we miss you what's up you know and they're just asking you they're like what's LA like and you're like oh it's cool it's got palm trees and like you know hey I'm gonna bring you back something I'll bring you back a toy you're just like what is all this bullshit you know so it is um it is difficult you know it's a balance of work and life and everything but it's like you know it's a constant uh you know people's emotions people's fears um you know it's it's constant you know like trish and i is we work at it. You know, it takes work. It's not like it's like our lives are nice.

You know, we love each other. We respect each other. You know, like, you know, it's definitely tough sometimes. And sometimes it's the best. You know, like it's one of those things. The good definitely outweighs the bad. And that's the thing that I'm always like looking for. Like I'm like, like I look and I'm just just like, oh my God, I still love you.

We've been together for fucking 22 years. Yeah, it's fucking awesome. I look at you and I'm just like, you're the fucking best. And she looks at me and she's like, what are you doing? She's just like, what are you doing? And I'm just like, no, it's good. We're good. I got it.

I got it. We got like five more years and we're going to be cool. Don't worry. We're going to figure this out. I need to shout out to Trish. Let's go. Trishy. Trishy.

Yeah, it's got to be because she's always been dealing with your bullshit in a little way because no offense taken, with the fucking heart attack, just her just dropping you off. You're like, oh, I think I have a heart attack. All right, I got to go go to work Figure it the fuck out Trisha was always like a boss She was always like a top level She was in like the retail business And she was running like J.Crew

And she worked for Urban Outfitters She ran and opened a couple Urban Outfitters Ran Urban Outfitters Then moved over to J.Crew Opened up like three J.Crews in Toronto And like ran J.Crew. So it was just like, she's always been like a boss, you know? Yeah. Oh, sorry. Oh, no worries. That's, I mean, I feel like you need that when you're running around and doing with your, you know, creative brain doing six things at once to keep departmentalizing. I mean,

you need a person like that to really get you dialed in. It's a place where it's just like, you know, we got our newborn at home. Like, Ozzy, she's fucking, what, eight months now? And it's just like, you know, Trisha is going to be able to reactivate what the fuck she's doing, you know? And, like, right now, she just wanted to like she wanted to do this she's like you only get to do this once like why can't i be a mother and we've had so many conversations about it about just being like you know a full-time mom yeah and she's like dude you

got you get to do this once like i can get a job later you know like if i want to get back in and being creative and like doing something and uh you know, like we're not stressed about that. And and that's the thing, too, is like we're aware of that kind of identity and that kind of self awareness and like what she's, you know, you know, she's going to punch in back and like be able to fucking start doing a whole new career and a whole new thing, whatever the fuck she wants to do. and start doing a whole new career and a whole new thing whatever the fuck she wants to do and you know that's really exciting for me and like she wanted to be you know I'm really thankful and grateful for everything that she does you know and it's just one of those things that like she's in like the perfect mother she plays with the children all day. Like she's so engaged and so brilliant with the kids and, and, and with everybody. And like, you know, she's, she's, she is like, she is like, she, like, I don't know,

dealing with me through the rough shit is like, like I always say, and she's just like, I'm, you know, it's nice. I stuck around. Huh? Seriously. Good. And I'm's just like i'm you know it's nice i stuck around huh good and i'm always just like yo man i'll work the rest of my life so you can do whatever the fuck you want to do yeah i owe you you know like i'm like i'll do whatever the fuck i'll go i got 20 basketballs up in the air right now and that's okay i can keep it up like this is all for us do you think she saved your life pardon do you think she saved your life no i think i saved my life fuck yeah yeah i don't know i think you are the only person that can she definitely inspired me to be a better person um but no you can only save yourself like you got a lot of people around you you got like i have an amazing friend circle i have amazing people that i love and

respect that show up for me i show up and uh you know that's the deal as you get older your circle gets a little smaller and tighter and it just makes it better but i think it's like um i think i don't think she saved my life i think she she's been with me. Maybe during all the drugs she said, she enabled me a fair amount. We were pretty codependent. I don't know. I get it. It goes both ways, man. But I think it really is one of those things where I think it's like we're definitely happy with what we got.

We're very grateful with, uh, you know, the situation and, and what we've kind of made out of it. Like I come from, I come from nothing, you know, I come just from a good family, man. We ain't got no, there ain't no trust fund. There ain't no fucking, my parents both still work and there's fucking 64, you know, like it's one of those things where it's like, um, you know, we got what we got from the hard work and people laughing and, you know, like it's one of those things where it's like, you know, we got what we got from the hard work and people laughing and, you know, believing in what I'm doing, you know. Did your parents give you this work ethic?

Yeah, dude. My parents are fucking shit shovelers. It's fucking insane. Yeah, man. My parents, my parents. Yeah. Hardworking people. You know, straight up.

Shout out to Steven Joanie. Shout out to Steven Joanie. Let's go know straight up shout out to Steven Joni let's go one more shout out psychopath I know you have so much stuff to do I just got a couple more questions whatever man we're chilling you know like I said you inspired me bro and like I started my own

talk show thing because dudes like you, man. And I just want to say thank you for working hard. It makes me feel less like a crazy person when I have seven fucking projects I'm doing. And you're doing the same thing, just fucking grinding it out. I know it's fucking hard on your health and your mental health. And for you to keep a good personality through it all, I'm i'm just i'm thankful we share the same existence in 2021 but yeah we're here for each other i still think it's there's so much room

for everyone to shine and i really think the world the best thing about it is like it's so easy for people to do what they want to do actually it is and it takes some time dude a lot of people like i'm like i've been doing this for eight years, nine years. Yeah. You know, I've been doing this shit for nine fucking years. And it's like, I'm a slow burn, man. Like, it's like, I've never had, I still have never had that moment. Whereas it's like, all of a sudden, I'm like this thing.

It's just like, yo, like, I made one video. Then I made another video. Then I made another video. Then I did this. And then this and then i traveled and then i did like open the right like it's constant yeah it's not like i'm and i'm so aware of that like it's not this one moment trigger effect thing it really is like the thing that i'm always like um you know this is some positivity bullshit stuff but i i always and it's not even – it's just more of a humbling thing than positive. But I have a mantra that really helps me, and it's just you're just not there yet because there's a lot of wants. There's a lot of things where I'm like, hey, why does that person have that?

Why does that – why, why, why? There's a lot of whys and why don't I haves. And I always am like i'm just not there yet i gotta keep doing what i'm doing stay the course put the blinders on and just stay in my lane you know like i'm like i stopped watching i'm like what four four months four months like no watching television or movies or anything and i'm just like not taking in any type of um just trying to not take anything in right now yeah that's good i don't know like i'm like it was one of those things where i'm just like i'm just not gonna watch television

and watch a movie like you know even on a plane it was like you know i just listen to like ambient music or like minimalist like harp music and i just like zone out and um you know think about you know just life and i and it's one of those things where i'm just like take in less and make more yeah something i don't know like it is one of those things where i think it's like um you know i got together with a bunch of my buddies and made just a dash i i bet i bet it on myself you know i i i took our life savings and i and i was just like trish i'm gonna start like a production company maybe and she's like what i was just like well every time i go to los angeles i have to have 500 meetings to have a meeting about a tv show i'm not gonna even be able to make with some fucking network that doesn't even give a fuck so i was just like i'm just gonna make my own shit and then like guess what something will happen yeah something will happen every day if you keep

putting the good work in something you will get a reciprocal there is there is something if you do good if you make something something will happen may not be massive but something positive will happen and then you continue and you keep working and you keep doing the thing and little things will turn into big things yeah were you were you a jealous person when you were younger no never no i was just no i'm not like crispy at all i've never been like a fuck that guy fucking i've never been uh no i'm just this yeah this is me i'm like dude i'm like i'm stoked for everybody i'm like i've always been like one of those like i'm cheering for everybody kind of things and it's like uh you know i think that's one of those i don't know i think maybe that's my parent my parents were always like very like

we were just like an open door policy house growing up. And like, we always had hella kids running around and my family, even though we didn't, we didn't have a lot of money at times, but we, we had a home and we had like, we had like a beautiful home. We had a beautiful family and we fucking stuck it out for each other, you know? And I think it's like that mentality allowed me to like you know i was always like being a fat metal hardcore kid in a small farm town doesn't really like you know having green hair and painting my fingernails black and like you know having earrings and like fucking in a small farm town doesn't really go over well yeah for some reason it was just like it never like stopped me from doing

anything and just being like this like fat goth kid or whatever like it is one of those um you know i just always want i was always like my parents always put a mentality in me that i was always kind of good enough that's no i guess i misunderstood when you're saying i don't want to watch television or watch movies because i don't want to. I thought that was like you're judging or trying to be creative in a sense. Why aren't you watching television and movies then? Just time. I think it takes up too much time. You get lost.

I just want to. I made it a luxury. That's a luxury. I think that's a thing that I don't deserve yet. You know, I'm not there yet on being able to sit back and watch Godfather one two and three I got work to do you know like it's just

one of those things where I'm just like I'm just not there yet I'm being able to watch television if I'm watching a full like the thing is is like the only the only thing that I watched was like at the beginning of the pandemic I was just like me and my wife we strapped in and we watched like all seven seasons of Veep and I was

just like Veep was like I was like that was our like one thing where we're just like I just need to laugh and like just like Veep was like the greatest I think Veep's the funniest show ever but it is great it's great right it's incredible but I think it's one of those things where I will say this especially because today

is the I believe the anniversary of Bourdain passing, which I was in New York the day he passed. And I was recording. I was doing an audio recording of my first cookbook. And I was shook. I was staying at the Bowery Hotel. I woke up and I was just like heard the news and I was like shook. I was staying at the Bowery Hotel. I woke up and I was just like heard the news and I was like shook. I was just like this is crazy. And I even, I've talked about this

before because he was like somebody that I genuinely thought was actually so cool and I was so afraid of ever meeting him and being like a fucking kook or like blowing it or just being like I would have done the thing where I would have been like,

here's a bag of Coke. Let's go party. And he would have been like, what are you talking about? I'm doing like, I'm on like a book tour, like fuck off kid. You know, like I would have been that, like, I know I would have punished him. And so like, I always would like, if he ever came to Toronto, I'd always like, like be the furthest away from wherever the fuck he was. Cause I was just like, if I ever went in there and ruined it like ruined that thing and i never watched his shows because i was just like i liked him just purely on his books and and i would read his fiction and

non-fiction and all this shit and i remember it was it was just like i think i only watched the quebec one and the copenh episode, but the, the fucking, uh, you know, anyway, it's one of those things where I never wanted to be that hero. I didn't want, I did. I was like,

if I meet him and he's an asshole, it's going to make me so fucking mad. Was that one of your heroes? Pardon? Was that one of your heroes? For sure. Like I was just like first year. I remember I stole,

I, you know, punk, I stole a copy of Kitchen Confidential, like my first year of culinary school in 2000. And, you know, it was like one of those things that it was just like reading it. I was just like, besides being kind of like bourgeois,

you know, and like growing up the way he kind of grew up and like seeing that French culture and shit where I'm like, I was just like, I saw like my punk kind of grew up and like seeing that French culture and shit where I'm like, I was just like, I, I saw like my punk kind of mentality and my DIY brain and the love of drugs and the love of life and the love of like cooking French food. Like I was like, I only worked in French restaurants. Like I went from culinary school and only worked in French bistros. And it was like the same thing. It was like,

what he loved is was was everything that I loved. I was reading this book in cooking school and then being like – I used to blow lines and just fucking read this book and then put my chef whites on and go to school the next day. And fucking just buckle down and be this psychopath. But it was just one of those things where where it's one of the things. You never know. You think somebody has it all. He was definitely like

you could tell he's got the demons. But I think it's like one of those things where it's just like it is that self work. It is that self work. It is that, that, that mentality. It is like, you know, you, he was the punkest fucking dude ever. He was like, he didn't take sponsorships. He didn't take anything. He made his work. He went to, he went and did his job and you know, he,

he made a lot of people happy. He brought a lot of you know, perspective and like identity to a lot of places that people probably weren't aware of and humanized a lot of people. Look, I mean, it looks like you're following those those steps, you know, but it's like it's pretty fucking badass. You're punk rock is fun. I'm just making people laugh. I'm just trying to make people. I think I think you're doing more than that. Yeah, but I think it's like thanks but i i do think it's um like when i it really clicked where i was just like i make people laugh

through food and and and and happiness through laughter and and and being able to teach people maybe to cook and if they cook and it turns out great and that self-esteem kind of builds and they level up a little bit and they get a little more confidence and they feel good about themselves like that's it i'm happy like that's all i want like if somebody cooks one of my dishes and they feel good about it they fucking nailed it and they're stoked then like that's it that's like that's top that's top tier that's fucking that's that's the best thing that can happen fucking maddie thank you for being here thank you for being on this earth i mean i really no bullshit no no pussyfoot around i'm here to stroke you off a little bit but

you're you really are an inspiration and i'm thankful i'm just thankful for you in this life dude um let's get it um so one more question i You know, you're – by the way, this taco joint you just opened up, holy fuck, this place looks amazing, dude. Beria? Blam. Dude, tell me what it's like, you know, this whole with the COVID thing. Do you think restaurants are going to change forever throughout this COVID thing, or do you think we're back?

I don't know about forever. They're definitely – well, they got decimated. And then, uh, you know, uh, I partnered with, uh,

my friends, Julio and Kate to open up the beer. Yeah. And, um, you know, it's one of those things that it's, uh,

just grateful to be able to do it, you know, to be able to help them out and be able to allow them to do what they fucking do, which is make incredible food and are incredible partners and incredible employers to their staff. I'm just happy that I can connect some dots and make some things happen. And you know, the pandemic, I don't fucking know. I don't, I don't fucking know i don't i don't fucking know i'm i'm holding my i'm not holding my breath anymore that's for sure yeah and whatever it is it is you know i've opened

three restaurants during the pandemic now the burger joint right which one and the barbie patties meat and three and birria balan yeah and it's it's um i never thought that i would ever want to open up restaurants where i hand out bags of food through windows and slots and like uh the different type of infrastructure we have to do to do that in a safe way and the way we have to take care of our staff and the way that um we have to operate these restaurants within these terms are the way that it is. And it is a way to, the greatest thing is once again, employing people, getting people back into the mix and, and feeding people. It's like the bear, like when, when, when I lost everything at the beginning of the pandemic, I lost my entire year. Like most people, if you were touring,

get into the pandemic, I lost my entire year. Like most people, if you were touring, um, like what I, you know, I guess what I did was tour. I would travel the world, making content, doing appearances, doing talks, whatever the fuck it was. I would tour no more tour. I lost an entire year of planning. And, um, and then that, that it took me a moment and then it clicked. I was like, why don't I just serve food again? Why don't I just serve food? I can, I, and, uh, and then that's when we opened up the meat and three and we just started serving barbecue out of a fucking old fucking, you know, industrial building. And we're just like, let's just serve. We still, to this day, we just, we're serving food out of a fucking industrial building

in a parking lot. You know, I think like like next weekend it will be the first weekend we put out like picnic tables because we can so finally people will have a place to sit and eat it but it's like literally like you know we're able to like employ people and feed people that's what's up that's some necessity shit and that's the stuff that i'm just like that's the stuff i'm most stoked on like i haven't put out new content in forever, like since January, because I've been focusing on like things that directly affect like me and my community and like things that I can like physically control,

which is like restaurants, you know? Yeah. And we'll leave with this. So at the end of the day, is that what you want to be remembered by? I don't fucking know. That's dark. I just want to be remembered by remember i don't fucking know that's dark i just want to be remembered you know i left the world better than i fucking came into it you know

made a couple people laugh made it you know i'm just trying to make people stoked yeah and uh and and i'm it makes me happy when you know people reach out and they're like yo like you know i get a lot i get a lot of dms i know i don't respond to them but i get a lot i read them i read a lot of them yeah and i respond to some maybe i should respond to more but it um you know uh the amount of people that reach out kind of daily and say like how they feel because of the stuff that i do the output that i put into it say like how they feel because of the stuff that I do, the output that I put into it is,

is that's it. Like that's, that's the fucking ripple. That's the fucking ripple in the fucking big old ocean. We're all splashing around, you know, where we're fucking, we're all,

we're all sinking. We're all saying it's just a matter of like, what kind of, what kind of splashes you splashing? I don't know. You know, it's one of those, I don't know. Remember me for fucking being a fucking funny asshole.

No. I think you're doing more for the community than you think you are. And I appreciate everything you're doing, buddy. So thank you for being on the show. Thanks for officially meeting me. That's very pretentious of me. Thank you for letting me meet you. And keep doing it.

And keep being an amazing dad and an amazing husband. You're doing it all the right way, buddy. Take a breath and you're going to make it through this thing. I'm going to go ride my Peloton. Go ride your Peloton. Good seeing you, Matty. Thanks for being on the show, buddy. It means a lot, bud.

Later on. Later, bro. Take care. Thank you. Thank you. Matty Madison. Fucking awesome. Dude, I'm not just stroking his dick right there.

He is one of my favorite people on this planet. Just his entertainment, his cooking, his being real and being honest with addiction and stuff. Shout out to you, Matty. The Big Blue Sky was watching us and the breeze was listening to us tell our tale The sun stayed up just long enough to make it clear Just what we are doing here I was born to love you

I will die and go back to stardust. All I know about being alive is that life's for living. I ain't seeking salvation. I ain't seeking salvation Not to worry about damnation I've got a little expectation And as such I ain't easily let down All I really wanna do

Is be close to you While we're still both around All I really want to do Be close to you While we're still both around And there you have it. Fucking dope, right? Fuck.

I learned a lot in that interview. I really did. I learned about how people deal with overwork. And I learned how people deal with fucking tragedy. I mean, the guy almost died. He had a heart attack. And for him to have such a good, enthusiastic approach on life when you almost see death, it's very, it was beautiful.

And now seeing him go through all the other stuff he's dealing with and with a smile on his face. And, you know, sometimes I get burnt out. I just start fucking yelling at myself. I never yell outside. You know, me and Matty are similar like that. We're the good time people. And sometimes the good time people have to suppress because we're good time. And we don't

want to ruin that for anyone else. So shout out to Maddie for being so vulnerable. That was fucking tight. My man. My fucking man. But there you have it. We're ready. We're ready to rock. We'll see you in two weeks. If you're coming out to the shows, come hug me. We're vaxxed up. Vaxxed and ready to, you know what time it is. But give me a hug. You know, talk to me. Let us know how you're feeling, how you went through the quarantine. You know, I'm here for you. You know, I always am. And I can't wait to have a beer with all y'all and kick it in the Midwest. We just announced some more dates. I'm just going to fly some dates around. We got a fall tour.

It's going to be badass. Shout out to everyone who bought pre-sale. It was insane. Tickets are flying. So grab your tickets to the fall tour. That's our big headline tour. Nick Gerlach is opening with the world-saving talent search. So if you got any weird swords,

you learned how to blow fire. I don't think we could do any fire in the venue. That sounds like a liability. But if you learned how to fucking hula hoop or learned how to cook a four-minute dish or learned a language, let's do it. We're going to do a talent show. Winner gets a trophy and gets to hang out

and get drunk with us at the end of the night. We were trying to think about what to give the guests, but that's not the point. We're just here to show what y'all have done. So we'll give you a trophy and we'll hang out and we'll have a good time. But I definitely want to see your talents. I definitely want to see what you learned in the quarantine. Could be anything, literally anything. We'll get some musicians up there. A lot of musicians have posted, which we're definitely considering. It's just hard to have a bunch of bands on there. So if you want to do an acoustic

act, or if you have an idea where it's like, think of Tiny Desk, like NPR. If you're going to be in a band, figure out a way where we could get your stuff on stage in 10 seconds and off stage in 10 seconds so we could get our other people. But we've had a lot of people sign up, so I'm pumped up that we got that. But we got a lot of festivals we're doing.

We're doing Bonnaroo. Let's fucking go. I'm ready for that. I'm going to fuck shit up on that one. Summer camp. We got a couple dates in the Northwest. We got Steamboat Springs on July 30th. Park City, doing a wedding for my homie. Been doing a couple of ways. Shout out to everyone throwing some dough at us to do some weddings. I dig that. August 1st, we're in Huntsville. We're back. FroFest is back. My festival in the lovely

state of Utah, FroFest, is going to be August 1st. It's free, always. If you wear an afro, you get in for free. What else? August 4th, we're in Victor, Idaho. I can't wait to see all the homies. Oh, man. Ketchum, Idaho. Can't wait to see the homies at Whiskey Jack, Salmon, Idaho. We're going back

to Boise. Yeah, I'm pumped up. It's going to be great. We're doing the Mulberry Mountain Fest. What do they call that thing again? Backwoods Fest. Yeah, that'll be fun. It's always fun to go back to Arkansas. That's it, guys. We're doing some Colorado dates in July. Avon, July 14th. Ridgeway,

July 15th. Dylan, July 16th. If you don't you know if you didn't get to catch us at Red Rocks maybe go to those

I think they're kind of far you know these mountain towns are kind of far from Denver for all my Denver heads I know there's a shit ton of Denver homies who listen to the podcast

shout out to my Denver peeps my home it's been nice to walk around the streets of Denver people giving me love for the Red Rocks show that makes me very happy. So shout out to everyone making my day.

It was monumental for this band and I think we kicked ass. We played great and people are saying so too. So thank you all for coming out and spend the dough on us. Oh, Menfo Fest too. We're going to see Dave Schools.

Oh yeah, October. Can't wait. Billy Strings on that too and Nathaniel Rateliff and Black Pumas. And then our big Denver play is October 9th at the fucking Ogden Theater.

God, this is crazy, yo. We're getting a little bigger and it's fucking scary. A lot more pressure, that's for sure. But I'm ready for it. So, you're going to have a great day. You're going to have a great week.

We got some killer guests next week. I got Warren Haynes on the show. I got some dope. we got some killer guests next week I got Warren Haynes on the show I got some dope I got some yeah we got some dope ones so we're gonna keep it coming you keep listening the numbers were huge last week for Frank Turner

and the numbers were huge for Chuck Lavelle thank you thank you thank you for all the new fans out there who are watching and listening and supporting us trying just to be honest trying to have an open conversation all the new fans out there who are watching and listening and supporting us. Trying just to be honest,

trying to have an open conversation about what's going on in all our heads. Because at the end of the day, that's what's going to fuck us is the battle between our hearts and our heads. And if you're unhealthy like I am, maybe my liver might give out, but I'm working on that. I'm drinking water. I've been taking these liver might give out, but I'm working on that, I'm drinking water, been taking these liver pills, and I'm drinking, I'm trying to drink less, but I'm not like staying up all night all the time, well, it's kind of a lie, I've been staying up a lot, but I'm actually

going to bed and sleeping, you know, you could stay up, but you got to get that, you got that, you got to get that sleep, dog, you got to gotta get that 6 to 7 I get about 5 and a half I'm happy with that but I love you be safe out there Warren Haynes up next and then I'll let you know how the tour's going we might get some of the band members up

because the next episode will be from the road so you'll either you'll see my sleep deprivation for sure because we're all jacked up to be back on the road. So Midwest, we'll see you next week. And for everyone else out there, we'll see you next week as well on the next show. I love you. Be safe.

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