Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 134: Rick Mitarotonda & Peter Anspach (Goose)

Episode Date: August 3, 2021

Andy and the boys are back playing shows and reflecting once more on the strange experience of being incredibly high on mushrooms while at airports in the south. And back for round 2 are the boys from... Goose, Rick & Peter! Find out what it's like to be one of the hottest bands in the scene today and how they maintain presence; both on the road & off. Shawn & Beats regale us with some sage advice. This is EP 134. Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out Andy's new song, "Love Hard" on iTunes, Spotify  don't you sleep on these guys: goosetheband.com Produced by Andy Frasco Joe Angelhow Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Shawn Eckels Andee "Beats" Avila Arno Bakker

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey Andy, it's Dave DeCiani, Goose's manager. I got the interview with Rick and Peter all lined up for you. Just give me a call back and we'll find some time to do it next week. Let's not accuse them of being narcs or talk about Burt Reynolds' mustache. Is there anything like that from the first episode? Just try to keep it focused on the music. They have a new record out. Thanks, man.
Starting point is 00:00:25 I'll talk to you soon. Yo, Frasco. What's going on? This is Coach, Guzzi's director and stage manager. What the fuck did you do, man? I just got off the phone with the boys. Rick's pissed off. Peter's in the corner crying.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Trev's doing bicep curls. Spud's just throwing potatoes at the wall, and Jeff has gone full-on Bruce Wayne. These dudes are heated, bro. Give me a call back, man. What the hell did you do? All right, and we're back. Andy Frasca's World Saving Podcast. I'm Andy Frasca. How's everyone doing? How's our heads?
Starting point is 00:01:09 How's our minds? Is it Floyd Festival installation? Is it installation or installment? Whatever, same thing. Of the World Saving Podcast. I just got back from Floyd, and oh, man, that was a fucking blast. You know, I normally, the last seven, last seven I don't know last like six summers I haven't been able to like hang out at festival because we always just do that one show and then we continue our tour you know
Starting point is 00:01:37 because we're psychopaths and we you know confirmed 200 plus years that we can't have time to hang out. But the last couple fests, Peach Fest I hung out for the weekend, Floyd Fest I hung out for the weekend, and it was a blast. Shout out to fucking Floyd Fest. Let's go, boys and girls. That was an experience. It was in the mountains.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Our hotel was an hour away, and they drove us from the hotel you know port shout out to the driving squad at floyd fest too my boys jake jason the other homie who let me smoke weed um yeah you know so you get to know all the staff and stuff and you know and i'm the type of dude who's not gonna sit backstage i'm gonna get in the crowd you know smash some beers watch all the bands um play but it was a great experience it was in the mountains of floyd virginia and um no cell service i wasn't on my phone i was just living at the festival for the for the weekend and i had a blast um didn't know what to expect i knew it was going
Starting point is 00:02:43 to be uh everyone says family. This is a family, you know, family festival. I thought when they said family, I thought, you know, kids and stuff. And there was kids, but they're talking about like the actual roots and how everyone comes together. And they've been doing this for what, 20 years, 15 years. I couldn't remember what they said, but, um, it really is like a family. And I was walking around, people like, Frasco, come to our RV and take some mushrooms or whatever. Or yo, yo, let's slam some beers and whatnot. That was a good time. Also, I didn't do Coke. Let's go. Frasco. Let's go, Frasco. No Coke for the Fraski. Because, you know, I'm not, you know, I have control, guys.
Starting point is 00:03:29 You know, don't think, you know, he's like, oh, fuck. He's been on that coke. Here he comes. But no, I have self-control. And there wasn't any coke in my body. I did have these weird hours where, like, I, because our first show, our first set, we started at two and ended about like three and our second set was a rain out so we had they just an hour late on the
Starting point is 00:03:54 set so we played at like one o'clock until and then they're they're like you gotta get off i'm like we're gonna keep going this is we closed out the whole festival and we had a 4 a.m flight and um so we played until about 2 30. it took me an hour it took us an hour and a half to get to the airport so i'm just like coming that coming to the air i that's the worst thing when you go to the airport and you're high as hell like Like high. I was on super mushrooms, like strong ass mushrooms. I was like, we're raging. I started eating everything, like mushrooms and just fucking eating
Starting point is 00:04:31 so many fucking mushrooms at that set. Shout out to everyone who put up with me. All the stage hands putting up with my high ass at the floor. Some fucking spraying popcorn on everyone. It was the end of the fest, you know? Like, you know, if I'm in a festival and it's the last day, the last set,
Starting point is 00:04:52 and, you know, I want, you know, if you want my band to play, I'm going to give you the freak out, the six years ago Frasco set. Especially after the second, if I play twice at a festival, the first show is really serious we had like turquoise it wasn't really serious but we had all our friends and we like
Starting point is 00:05:09 structured it we had turquoise and taylor scott from denver shout to him he's a great guitar player and shira sang dancing around my graves with us uh she sang kanika's part um which i'll talk about the single and then the fucking reaction y'all have been giving me is, I'm really, we'll talk about that in a second, but, um, so the second set, we're like, oh, fuck, we're gonna loosen up, and, uh, oh, we sure did, I was getting thrown, people were throwing broccoli at me, and, uh, we're just like, I was like eating everyone's mushrooms and shit, and, um, it was just a lot of fun. And Virginia has some sweet people and the bands that played.
Starting point is 00:05:50 And I can't say enough about Floyd Fest, but it was about 3 o'clock in the morning, and I was high as shit, and I knew I'm about to go into this sterile-ass airport in Roanoke, Virginia. My eyeballs are bulging out of my head. And, you know, I'm already afraid of flights. And I haven't slept in a while,
Starting point is 00:06:11 so I'm, like, kind of having anxiety about this flight. It's across the country and turbulence. And I think the flight attendant knew I was, like, at the Floyd Fest, or maybe she knew me or something. And she hooked me up with, like, a and shout out to Mary Karen Lonson. Hell yeah. Take care of the fucking drunk and the drugs. My boy.
Starting point is 00:06:36 You know, I was like, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. And it's funny how the universe hooks you up when you don't force a hookup. you know, it's like when you don't force anything, and you just go with the flow, I was just high as fuck, wearing my glasses, it was like, you know, then the flight, and it was just bright, and just, I'm smiling, watching some, like, Pixar movie, then I was like, whoa, this guy is high as fuck, but it was good. Got back to Denver, slept my ass off all week. And then back at it. We had the shows in Colorado, Steamboat Springs, which was fucking badass. Shout out to Steamboat Springs. That was dope. Sold out. Let's go. My people, Schmegaties. Shout out to Schmegaties. Then I did a wedding for my buddy and we backed up Mix Master Mike from the
Starting point is 00:07:25 Beastie Boys. We backed up the Beastie Boys at this way. I was telling you, I wanted to wait to tell you, but it was surreal, surreal, surreal. And it was awesome. Got to hang with him and Park City. And I'm not going to blow the cover of whose wedding it was, but it was a blast. And I love you very much. You know who you are. Thank you for always supporting me and thank you for putting me in situations that are dream situations. So we got to do that in Park City.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Felt like be part of the Beastie Boys, which was dope. And then we did Fro Fest in Salt Lake City. Let's go. All my Mormons out there, thanks for wearing Afros. Shout out to y'all. You get in for free if you wore an afro and there was like 5,000 or 6,000 people. It was insane. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:08:09 That was a fucking blast. Chris Lager. Always great playing with Chris. I interviewed him last week or two weeks ago. We're putting him on the podcast for the month of August because he was the original songwriter. He was the first guy who really taught me how to write songs.
Starting point is 00:08:29 My song, Sunny Day Soldier is actually a Chris Logger song. If y'all didn't know, Hot Tank fucking going deep in the archives with that. So I want, I wanted you to know his story as a, cause he's a really amazing songwriter and you know, we've, he's known me when I was hopped up on Coke and fucking everything. And you know, so he's got some stories. He was scared of me. His fans were like, don't. Frasco is the devil. Because he was like, you know, this nice little boy from Nebraska. Well, he's older than me, but a nice man from Nebraska.
Starting point is 00:08:57 And he's like, don't be hanging around that Frasco kid. He'll ruin you, Chris. Well, we're still at it. Shout out to Chris. Friendship. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's ruin you, Chris. Well, we're still at it. Shout out to Chris. Friendship. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Hell yeah. Yeah. So FroFest was dope. And I got three more dates on this tour if you're listening to this. Victor, Idaho on the 4th. Sam in Idaho on the 5th. There's
Starting point is 00:09:21 still some tickets left for that. Ketchum, Idaho on the 6th and 7th. I haven't been to Ketchum in a couple years. Let's go. I think we're almost sold out on the second show on the 7th at Whiskey Jacks. The 6th isn't. I just realized there's Sawtooth Festival in town, like a town before. So if you guys want to go to that, go during the day and then let us be your after party. Head out to Ketchum them it's only 10 miles if you're going to that fest in stanley idaho and then i am home for two weeks let's fucking go i am excited we were supposed to do this fish after party in atlantic city i'm like i can't do that i was gonna fly to atlantic city on the 14th i'm like know what frasco chill out hang out in Denver, go to a lake, so I'm gonna go to a lake
Starting point is 00:10:06 and fuck shit up and you don't have to work all the time. You know, you don't have to play shows all the time, you know, that's the beauty of Repsy. Hey, look at that transition, Repsy! They'll give you shows and you could say, hey, do you want to play this or not?
Starting point is 00:10:22 They're not gonna pressure you into playing the show and you don't have to play this or not? They're not going to pressure you into playing the show. And you don't have to play them. But ladies and gentlemen, if you're in a band, I tell this every week, but you got to I know a lot of bands listen to this. People, come on, bandmates. You want to get
Starting point is 00:10:37 how do you, what's the best way of getting your band, the camaraderie of your band together? By getting together together having band practice or playing shows even if it's in a a town that's six hours and they're only paying you a little bit of money get your band out there and get that camaraderie going because you're gonna wait and wait and realize oh my bass player just got married or my drummer, someone's poaching my drummer and now he wants, I might lose my drummer to another band.
Starting point is 00:11:11 All that stuff will happen unless you stay busy and stay, whoever the band leader is in your band, keep that shit going. It's like being married to five, four, whatever, seven, if you have seven fucking people, like Turquoise. Turquoise has so many, shout out to Turquoise. So many people in that fucking band, and they added like rock stars, Jerry Harrison and Adrian Blue,
Starting point is 00:11:36 but you got to keep that camaraderie. That's why there's perfect, that's why Repsy.com, if you don't have a booking agent put your band's profile on repsy it doesn't hurt they will try to get you gigs a lot of buyers go on that website a lot of festival bookers and a lot of bar venues a lot and fraternities i'm telling you fraternities are a good way to make money so So they'll book your band. You sign up. If you have a booking agent, they take the percentage of what they're normally giving
Starting point is 00:12:10 to off because they love agencies. They want to work together with agencies. And if you don't have a booking agent, they take a little percentage. It's a win-win. So sign up your band to Repsy.com. I wish I had it. I'm telling you, when I was 19, 20, 21, I wish I had a company like Repsy.com. I wish I had it. I'm telling you, when I was 19, 20, 21, I wish I had a company
Starting point is 00:12:27 like Repsy. So shout out to Repsy. Let's go. My people, support the podcast. I'm here to support you too. Let's go. But yeah, Colorado dates have been fun. Single, holy shit, y'all. This is the most downloads I've ever had on a single in the first week, ever I just want to say thank you So much, I've been getting all your messages I'm trying to message y'all back You guys are telling me stories about How you guys are dealing with death
Starting point is 00:12:56 And how How this song is helping you deal with death And you know, as a songwriter You know, all jokes aside I know I'm a Some people call me whatever they call me, the clown or whatever some publishing companies or notable people who write,
Starting point is 00:13:18 journalists call me a clown and whatever. Sometimes I take that offensively. People who call me a clown, it's like they only are reading the first cover of the book. clown and whatever. And you know, sometimes I take that offensively. Like, people call me clown. It's like, they only are reading the first cover of the book. You know, like with this song, I'm really proud that I didn't have to do that. And people are showing up for not just my stage antics, but my words and stuff. And for you guys to talk about your deaths with me and talk about how the song's helping you be okay with death. I love you.
Starting point is 00:13:50 We worked our ass off on the music video. I directed it. My first directorial music video. Let's go. I'm going to shout out to you. I never know what I'm doing with that shit. When you make a music video, you're like, when you make a music video, you're like, oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:14:06 You know, you have this idea in your head like, yeah, yeah, we're going to do my funeral. So we're not making fun of anyone dying or me like being at someone's funeral. I don't, you know, it's like I'm just going to, we're going to point this at me, death. The idea of death, we're going to theme it on me. That's fine. I'll be escaping. I don't want to die, people are like, are you okay, Frasca, you're going to, you're like, you're talking about, like,
Starting point is 00:14:28 killing yourself, I'm like, no, no, I want the idea of death, to talk, I want to talk about the idea of death, but I can't, I think it's a cane of horror to, you know, push it on anyone else, like someone's mother, or grandfather, or whatever, in a music, I'm like, fuck it, just put it on me, I'll take the heat, mother or grandfather or whatever in a music video. I'm like, fuck it, just put it on me. I'll take the heat. And I just really wanted to focus on the idea of celebrating the moment that we have now. Not worrying about tomorrow, I'll hang out with someone tomorrow or I'll call someone tomorrow or man, all those great memories in the past. Let's focus on trying to find the best memories we can right now with the people we love and stop spending your fucking time on people who are shitty at you.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Do I have to play the music? Stop spending your energy on people who don't give a fuck about you. Seriously. You're going to wake up one day. Come on. I'll play the music. You're going to wake up one day. Come on. I'll play the music. You're going to wake up one day and realize, damn, I spent too much time on this person, this guy or girl. I got to turn that music off. This guy or girl, I put too much energy in and they don't give a
Starting point is 00:15:39 fuck about me. Take a step back and say, shoe devil, get that motherfucker out of your life. You don't need him. You don't need him. Spend your time with the people that make you happy, that make you laugh, make you cry, make you think. Not the people who make you feel angry about yourself or insecure
Starting point is 00:15:59 about yourself. Fuck those people. I know maybe you live in a small town. There's not a lot of friends out there. That's why we got the internet. Let's find some fucking friends. Let's go guys. We're finding friends. This is the year. Summer's over, but I always say no new friends club, but you know, if your friends suck, then find some new friends. I don't know. Um, but seriously, we're going to look back at this shit and realize that, damn, that fucking flew by. I see my mom. I'm stoked right now for my mom
Starting point is 00:16:31 because she has leukemia right now, and it's a fucking scary time. I mean, people who have cancer start thinking about everything. And for my mom to find new hobbies through this scary time like she's into crystals right now i'm like hell yeah la mom getting hippie on me let's go mom shout out to my mom fuck yeah mom talking to psychics and shit i'm like hell yeah i love that shit i'm like
Starting point is 00:16:56 you know that's what i fell in love with the jams because they're all fucking hippies you know i wasn't really into the music in the beginning, but I love the community. Everyone's like with the crystals and whatnot. And Oh, speaking of that, we have plasma. I think I'm getting that girl who pees and drinks her pee. I'm gonna get her on an episode. Maybe it's on this episode if it's, if I get, if I have enough time, but, uh, maybe she'll be the co-host for this girl has been everywhere. She's her pee this uh this uh sweet girl i forgot her name but we everyone called her plasma princess and i fucking love the community here so back to my mom so she's finding all these new things about herself that she's enjoying i'm like damn fuck yeah even if it takes you to 70 she's i think yeah she, yeah, she's 70. She's almost 70. She's 69. Hell yeah. Um, so even if
Starting point is 00:17:46 it takes you to 70 to find out what you want, stop hanging out with people who fucking get you down, find your fucking gang, your posse. And, um, even if it takes a lifetime, like Jason Isbell says, so whatever it takes, be there for yourself. Give yourself that fucking extra comfort because you're worth it too. No one tells you that. I'll tell you, right? I'll put the music back on. You're fucking worth it. You deserve happiness too. Everyone, you can make everyone else happy. You can make everyone enjoy to have a ball with you, but God damn it, you deserve happiness too. So get out there and be happy too. Even if you got to find new friends, if you got to find a new lover, you got to find new relationship. If your relationship sucks,
Starting point is 00:18:36 fucking get out of it. You don't want to wake up after 40 years with someone. This is my fear. Like this is why I don't have relationships. Because I don't want to wake up one day and I'm like, damn, I hate this person. So if you wake up one day like that, get out of the situation. You're never stuck. I know you might have baggage or maybe your backpack's heavier now. Maybe you've got kids, a house, a fucking job. Maybe the husband is your boss.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Whatever it is. You can always get out of situations. Just gotta trust yourself. I know change is fucking weird and uncomfortable. But if you take a step back, realize I'm in control of this motherfucker. Not you Johnny
Starting point is 00:19:19 fucking Johnny husband or Karen wife. You know what I'm saying? Does that make sense? I hope it does because I'm ranting. I'm just yelling in my kitchen right now.
Starting point is 00:19:33 But it's true. Take a step back. Realize you're in control of your life and everyone else who gives you opinions and voices opinions are just, it's not the say-all everything. You know, like maybe like you listen to your mom or dad too much on all their advice.
Starting point is 00:19:56 And maybe they're fucking wrong. I mean, they're human. I mean, not all their advices are going to be right. So if you don't feel like, hey, that advice doesn't work for me anymore, you're a grown-ass man, you're a grown-ass woman. Tell them, you know what? I respect that that's how you think about life.
Starting point is 00:20:13 That's not how I think about life. Find ways to be comfortable in the now, right now. And that's what that song was all about. No, I'm not trying to commit suicide or I have some illness illness knock on wood i hope i don't have any illness you know i always have these stomach problems now but my mom says it's it's called jewish gut where i just i'm a worrier so all that worry ends up going to your gut so and probably the cheese steaks and the cigarettes and the jameson just chugging big
Starting point is 00:20:44 gulps of jameson probably my stomach line is probably done so i might have to figure that out eventually but for now live in the moment i'm enjoying myself and that's why i wrote that song dancing around my grave keep keep uh sending it out tell your radio stations we've already have like 10 radio stations playing it first week, which is very good for me. I'm not, you know, being in the jam scene, you're not really in the radio scene. So I've been just, this has been amazing, the reaction to this song.
Starting point is 00:21:15 So thank you. Shout out to all the fans. Let's go. My people. Showing us the Frasco love. All right. So we have Goose back on the show. Round two with Goose.
Starting point is 00:21:28 You know, when I first had my interview, I didn't know who they were. I thought they were some, you know, just some dudes. You know, my boy Dave DeCiani manages them. He's like one of my best buds. Speaking of that, I got to hit up Dave. I keep hitting him up. He's been so busy.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Goose is just fucking on a tear, and pigeons are fucking killing it, and kitchen dwellers. I mean, he's doing great. Shout out to Dave DeCione one more time. Let's go, Dave. You're doing great, buddy. If no one tells you that enough,
Starting point is 00:21:55 I'm going to fucking tell you. You're doing a great job with all these bands. All your bands are blowing up. I'm happy for you. So I did round two with Goose. I was on... It's like when I So I did round two with Goose. You know, I was on, you know, it's like when I, you know, I did that interview maybe two years ago before I was in therapy and listening. I was just, caught me on the wrong time.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I was hungover. It was like a sound check before we were playing in Connecticut or some shit. I forgot where it was, but they rolled in. And we just got heavy real quick. So this is the redemption interview because I'm really proud of them. They've been working their ass off. Being a buzz band is
Starting point is 00:22:31 you know, there's a lot of great things you see but it's also fucking hard on you mentally. Like think about it. If you're going from 500 people and then a quarantine and all of a sudden you wake up you're selling 10,000 tickets you know it's a lot of pressure so for them to take that pressure on the chin and say no I
Starting point is 00:22:51 fuck this I'm gonna fuck shit up um I'm proud of them so shout out to Goose and uh you know what shout out to Goose and uh shout out to the homie that just hangs out with us. I need a dude. I guess Dola is my coach. They got a guy named Coach who is fucking awesome. I ate some weed edibles with him, and he loves the Mets. I'm going to get him on the podcast too. I think I need to get him a sports segment because he's funny as fuck and very smart.
Starting point is 00:23:23 That whole band, how they run their business is very smart i think you're gonna really enjoy this interview so ladies and gentlemen we're gonna have a good week we're gonna have a great fucking week i hope so because this is your chance to live in the moment everything else doesn't matter besides right fucking now so is it your turn or is it their turn i hope hope to God it's your turn. So we're going to have a great week. So ladies and gentlemen, please enjoy Goose. And thank you so much for listening to me rant. I'm pumped up because things are going so well with the band. Things are going so well with the podcast. And I got some exciting news about the shit show.
Starting point is 00:24:04 I can't talk about it yet, but cross your fingers because if this happens, holy shit, this is going to be, it's a big move. It's a big, it's big, and it's a big move. So cross your fingers for me if you do that kind of stuff. All right. I love you. Be safe and I'll catch you on the tail. I love you. Be safe. And I'll catch you on the tail. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Next up on the interview hour, we got Rick and Peter from Goose. Yo, Chris, play some Goose. This band's the biggest band in our scene right now. You know, don't sleep on them. I got to hang out with them at Floyd Fest. Great guys. Great, great guys. And I feel like they're frightened of me or something.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Like I'm going to like chastise them on the podcast. But I do really like them. You know, it's like, you know, I'm not, sometimes I'm not really into a lot of the jam music and stuff. But these guys sing great. Good songwriters most importantly what i love that people they're hard workers they're working their ass off you know it's a lot of pressure to change sets and write new songs especially in the fan base you know when a lot of their fans are fish fans who expect a new fucking show every single second every everything has to be new everything and for them to like take that on the chin so you know we'll do that is fucking honorable
Starting point is 00:25:31 and uh i'm i'm for it so i'm team goose as well so ladies and gentlemen please enjoy round two with rick and peter On the floor, you know that I'm coming back for more. Take it slow, I'm burning, breathing, I know. Hey guys, round two. Hello. How's it going? Nothing but fastballs this time, right? Nothing but fastballs.
Starting point is 00:26:00 So, how's the music been? How's tour? How's tour? How's tour going? We're playing it and it's touring. It's got to be surreal right now, right? It's good. Yeah. Things are good.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I like to think about like, where it was two years ago. And then you had a pandemic. Was that the last time we talked? Two years ago? Yeah. Two years ago. And then we had a pandemic
Starting point is 00:26:25 and all of a sudden bam 10 000 tickets fucking sculpture park let's fucking go dude that's what i'm talking about though like it's is there pressure sure what what what what kind of pressure uh well i mean in terms of the music it it does feel like we're kind of i mean i feel like i'm i'm still going up there playing the same stuff and you know you know and it feels like hey we're kind of I mean I feel like I'm still going up there playing the same stuff and you know it feels like hey we're just kind of doing our thing like we usually do and and in terms of that it's it's the same and that makes me laugh sometimes when I'm on stage honestly yeah I'm just like this is hilarious like look at all these people and you know I think like just a year ago I was playing this song to like nobody you know so it's so surreal like yeah what about you rick what's going on yeah same same process you know
Starting point is 00:27:10 for a minute there was kind of like oh like we sold those that many tickets like what do we you know like jeff do a backflip you know like but like no ultimately it's just you know we just keep we're just gonna keep doing what we do and try to get better at it best we can ultimately you know we just keep we just gotta keep doing what we do and try to get better at it best we can and you know whatever what about the stress
Starting point is 00:27:29 of everyone's watching your every step right now is that stressful are they you just gotta change it up or is it were you like you guys are prepped
Starting point is 00:27:36 to change it up like this every day you've been doing that for years I'm new I'm new to this to how your process is of how you
Starting point is 00:27:43 like construct your business. Yeah, I mean, part of that's natural. I think it's just a game of trying to avoid the head trip. Because, yeah, maybe people are watching our every step, maybe they're not. I have no idea. But it's mostly, it's all like, do I think that they're... If I'm getting paranoid about people watching our every step, then like, that's like, that's stupid.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Yeah. You know? So like, you know, it's just a, uh, kind of a lot of effort of, of trying to not think about this stuff. Yeah. The best we can. Is it hard to like, not distract yourself with that stuff? At times, for sure.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Yeah. I mean, it's, it yeah i mean it's it's a lot of it's a lot of noise for sure you know it's like it's a lot of things that are a lot of things other than just writing songs and playing music and improvising and whatever you know that we have been doing for a while and now there's just there's yeah there's a lot of moving moving parts a lot of uh you know scenery that is different now. It's hard to not let that move perspective too much.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I don't know. It helps to stay busy. For me, if I have enough stuff to do when I'm off the road, and when I'm on the road I'm so focused. As long as I'm staying focused on what I have to do and like being productive
Starting point is 00:29:06 and doing what I've always done you know like making music and I don't have time to think about that stuff and it's it's great like it doesn't really bother me
Starting point is 00:29:15 in those moments are you guys like hyper focused people like when it comes to like you are focused on music and like this is your thing I was
Starting point is 00:29:22 talking to Dave like you guys were in the studio like smashed out 30 songs or whatever it's just like all this shit like what the fuck like you gotta be hyper focused like how is do you feel like you have a vessel coming out of you right now does that make any sense what do you mean by that like a vessel like when you're in the creative process i don't know vince herman colonel bruise called the vest yeah yeah yeah where you just like i just want to make sure you met what I thought you meant okay yeah how y'all feeling creatively you know sometimes it's like I don't like I don't know I fit sometimes it seems like not qualified to say whether that's happened
Starting point is 00:29:58 that's the case or not you know we're just we're just kind of like you know ideas occur me like where do they come from I don't know they come from somewhere yeah i got i'm not like they don't they didn't come out of i don't know they came from somewhere so like they just happen and you just try to like be ready for them the best you can and we're just trying to like you know keep up with what's going on which is you know not always easy on a personal level but like you know it's it's a lot of cool a lot of fun stuff happening you know you talk about
Starting point is 00:30:27 it's not easy on a personal level what's hard about what you can't see on your personal level here we go let me know just ring the bell
Starting point is 00:30:38 hi guys I can I can leave whenever we need but like I I don't know I travel a lot too so I'm just like I just feel I can leave whenever we need. You're not just. But like, I don't know. I travel a lot too. So I'm just like, I just feel sympathetic for that part of life.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Because we don't have, as we get more successful, our personal time gets little and little and little. So we have to take advantage of being present with that moment, right? Right. Dude, balancing is tough. Dude, it is. That's what I'm saying. It's tough, but when you get it going, your life just becomes way more meaningful and fun.
Starting point is 00:31:14 So how do you guys balance? How do you get it so you guys are feeling good when you get on that stage? I haven't cracked the code yet. I'm moving in the right direction, but definitely haven't cracked the code. Yeah, what do you got? What do like moving in the right direction but like definitely haven't cracked the code. Yeah, what do you got? What do you got for the right direction? I mean,
Starting point is 00:31:26 I think it's just like getting used to all these changes and putting the scenery so to speak in its right place. Like enjoying it,
Starting point is 00:31:38 appreciating it, being really grateful for it which I am but also like trying to stay grounded so that I, i you know can stay healthy as a human and have have some semblance of balance in life and that kind of thing and um you know focus on writing you know that that's the tough thing for me like i wrote a lot when i was alone
Starting point is 00:32:02 a lot you know it was like years and years where I was just like chill and spent a lot of time alone. And that's when I wrote a lot of music. And now it's, it's definitely way more challenging. Yeah. It's gotta be. Yeah. Especially if you need to be alone to write music. Yeah. Yeah. And everyone's different with how they do that. You know, what about you, Peter? Are you, do you need to be alone to write music or you can write with anybody? It's like, it's uh most for the most part need to be alone you know because i feel like the the big thing about when you write a song is that you kind of want to like sing out all these like weird ideas and you know you don't want anyone like directly next to you to like hear all these ideas or like all these weird vocal things that you're trying
Starting point is 00:32:38 to figure out yeah and so like it's better when nobody's around so that way you could just do your thing and not have anyone you know anyone feel like you're being judged. Yeah, but you don't get that time anymore. No. That sucks, dude. Well, I think hopefully we're heading in the right direction and just need to adjust and figure out how to manage our time and make time for that.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Yeah, I think it's important because this is all new. i mean i'm not at y'all's level successfully but like i'm moving up in the ladder too and i feel like everything is new it's different like how you guys in your 30s are you guys 20 i'm i turned 30 you just turned 30 28 20 hell yeah so we in the prime baby we're ready to go where you at? I'm 33 that's a good number I like it 30's been so wonderful to me when I stop giving a fuck about what everyone else thinks I think that just happened when you're 30
Starting point is 00:33:34 you're not insecure anymore were you like that too in your 20's or what? yeah your 20's your psyche is in such a weird transitive place. I've noticed that a lot of people kind of just start getting grounded in themselves in their 30s. And I've definitely been looking forward to that.
Starting point is 00:33:54 What about you, P? I mean, you're the businessman in this group. You're running the ship in a way, dog. I know about you, dog. The last time we met, we knew nothing about it. We met each other in a parking lot. Now I did some research. See what's up? Right. I'm in now. So you're like the day-to-day person right well that's you know in not like not completely you know well like used to be like when the band was like just
Starting point is 00:34:16 starting up i mean there's certain things they do that are day-to-day you know like the social media social media yeah that's all of you yeah let's fucking go dog that's a fucking 12 hour job in itself it would be much more difficult if I didn't have amazing content to work with big shout out to our crew and everybody who does such a great job in the video world it's gotta be like
Starting point is 00:34:39 we were talking about this when you guys got the bus fuck yeah but it was seven right then all of a sudden like yeah we need this we need a camera guy and we need this and coach has got to be with him is that his name the dude who just showed up yeah i fucking like that guy too i'm sorry on instagram oh yeah he's funny dude and like but you're putting him on it would be great for the show oh yeah i was thinking that if y'all said no, I was going to hit Coach. Because I thought
Starting point is 00:35:05 he'd have great stories because now, you built a family around you and you put them to work. You're doing all these live streams. Right. And he's being the video director of your live streams.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Yeah. And it's like, you've got your best homies. How important is it, family, to be on the road with you? Super important. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:35:24 I think, like what we were talking about before and like the stress of the whole thing and like the weirdness that could get in your head and stuff like that having your your homies your family around you while while doing it is like it's make or break it's everything you know and everyone's friendly i'm looking at all your photos you're like reading like kerouac in the fucking front. You're writing songs in the back. You can tell everyone's smiling. It's not a job. For a beginning of success, a lot of people start getting anxiety.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Like, oh, fuck. This is how it's going to be. And other people, when they're with their family, they kind of adjust to, I guess, just being present. And it's not even the people on the bus and the crew. It's like, I feel like we have a lot of people who just are close friends and family who fly out to a lot of shows. And that's really huge for us too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Like Kalinsky's flying out to every show. And Greg Knight, especially. Yeah, and DC Ani. And I see Dave and Betty's been flying out every time too. They're flying a lot too. They're taking care of you. I mean, this is a big step, bro. This is just the beginning.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I know it's just the beginning. But just drink water. You guys, you're drinking water right now. My man. Let's go. I thought you were drinking a fat carton of oat milk. Keeps me running, man. No, but I'm really, I'm like,'m like damn this guy's just mind is straight on the
Starting point is 00:36:46 presentness um but that's the thing it's like music meet your present when you're writing music right that's when you feel like you're most present yeah i mean when it's happening yeah yeah definitely what about like the pre the setup like i think a band's like you who have to like change the set list every night and like stress out about that what the fuck? Like, Connecticut, fuck, we played there last year. Fuck, we can't do that. This is like I think your life is right now. Yeah. Is that something?
Starting point is 00:37:10 It's not inaccurate. It's not inaccurate? No, it's kind of like the nature of the beast. Yeah, so what's your game plan? People are starting to come to my shows more than just once. Right. Trying to do different shit. What's your game?
Starting point is 00:37:22 What's your mind state when it comes to set lists regionally? Well, I, you know, I kind of like go in there and I just saw like, you know, check what we played last time.
Starting point is 00:37:34 You know, write down whatever we didn't play last time. Oh, that's good. And whatever else we didn't play the night before. And then,
Starting point is 00:37:41 you know, then we'll kind of go in there and, you know, mix it up a little bit we've got a good little like it's kind of changed throughout time right now we've got a good little committee happening right there's like a like a thread with uh peter coach and i coach like writes them out these days fucking love this guy yeah this guy it's kind of different every show
Starting point is 00:38:00 great handwriting sometimes like sometimes he just like throws out some ideas peter usually kind of like does the the the you know prerequisite recon of like all right here's the batch of like shit that's on the table yeah that's fun for me to do you like doing it yeah it's like it's like you know it's like statistics you know yeah yeah it doesn't it doesn't take that value no no so what's the what's the philosophy of when you could play a song again? I don't know. You know, there's like, yeah, I'm trying to assess the dogma of that whole thing. Me too. Where it feels. I mean, ultimately, at the end of the day, what we strive to be doing is playing what we feel like playing.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Yeah. You know? Right. Like, if we really want to play a song four nights in a row, then I think we should do that. I usually don't feel like doing that. I think most of the time, he'll do the statistics stuff
Starting point is 00:38:54 and I'll go through and be like, usually there's like, I don't feel like playing like that. I feel like playing that. And then we kind of move from that. It's like a gut thing. You know what I mean? And when you follow your guy's gut, normally it goes well, right? I think so. Yeah. I'd say from that it's like a gut thing yeah you know what i mean and when you follow you guys gut normally it goes well right i think so yeah i'd say the times it's like we like a set
Starting point is 00:39:09 list ends up being really weird it's like when we've when i like thought about it too much yeah like give me an example like when did you overthink the set list for what show you know it's it's been you got an idea you know no it's we i remember like like a couple years ago anytime there was like a like a like a big show you know like something like we're like two weeks in advance we're like all right like what are we gonna play at this show i feel like maybe like early goose maybe like early goose misses were like or at least yeah or like that felt like a little bit like so like we were playing like two months out right i was just like, ah. By the time you get to the show, it's like. I think of that Wall Street show.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Yeah. What's that? It's like a theater that was, you know, it's an old theater that reopened in Connecticut, like our, you know, sort of Norwalk or, you know, sort of hometown maybe that, you know, reopened in like 2018. We played a show there
Starting point is 00:40:06 and it was cool it was a really big room for us at the time and brought out a bunch of our home people and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:40:13 and I remember weeks leading up to it we were like alright this set what are we going to say what's it going to be and then we got there and it was just like
Starting point is 00:40:21 I don't really feel like doing this and we did it anyway and it was kind of whack vibe. Yeah. And I was like. You walk out there kicking a rock or something.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yeah. I really just feel like playing this song, and we didn't. And I was like, oh, we should have just played that song. You know, it was a valuable lesson to be learned. Yeah, exactly. I agree. Yeah. I think every band has to go through that.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Yeah. What are the growing pains of growing like this? I think it's just a lot of making sure that you have good communication all the time. There's a lot of people and a lot of moving parts all happening at the same time and all growing together. It's just making
Starting point is 00:40:56 sure that everybody feels like they can communicate openly, honestly, and making sure that we're receptive to that. There's a lot going on. That's super hard. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:07 How do you do that while you're focusing on music? Yeah. I mean, like things are moving so fast and, you know, I mean, the band is changing really fast and like everything's changing really fast and it's really easy for shit to just be happening and communication not be happening at the rate it needs to be happening. So then there's these moments where things kind of swell up, whether it's in the band
Starting point is 00:41:29 or the whole team, whatever it is, and we realize, oh, wow, we need to take a minute here and really work through all this and talk it all out. Because I feel like communication
Starting point is 00:41:41 has to be the biggest part of this, no matter what. Between you guys, your brothers, I mean, you guys are thick and thin, and then new people who keep on coming into that core. Like, I think about the Grateful Dead. They always had, like,
Starting point is 00:41:53 40 or 50 people around them. Like, what the fuck? It's like, everyone's like, or if it's Bobby's, like, you know, like, it's just crazy. Like, girls and managers and managers' friends, like, how do you, like,
Starting point is 00:42:04 know who our family, you know? Right. You gotta stick' friends. How do you know who are family? Right. You got to stick to the oat milk. You got to stick to the oat milk. Keep it solid. What's the most... You guys are in love? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:16 You guys in love? Oh, I think men with each other. I love each other, right? You still like each other, right? Yeah. I have a partner. You guys have partners? I don men with each other. I love each other, right? Still like each other, right? Yeah, yeah. I have a partner. You guys have partners? I don't have a partner.
Starting point is 00:42:30 What about the girl that was in that Instagram photo? You guys wearing the same shirt? Yeah, yeah. That's your girl? Well, yeah, you know, we're hanging out. Oh, yeah, dude. Let it go, Pete. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:39 She's hot, dog. Oh, thanks, man. She's a beautiful girl. And those shirts are cool. That's your idea? Yeah, with collaboration with her, yeah. Good, man. Yeah, super fun to do.
Starting point is 00:42:47 So you guys got girls. How do you feel like it's guilty to have a loan? Like you're talking about not having enough loan time. So the loan time you have, it feels like you've got to give it to your girls. So is there pressure in your head to like, I need to be by myself? Or do your girls make you feel like you could be by yourself? That's like a thing, you know, a communication thing. Um, she's, she's super cool. You know, she's like, I, I don't, I give her a whole mess of credit because I don't think
Starting point is 00:43:18 there's a lot of people that really, um, are suited for, you know, being with someone in this kind of situation. She really is. She really is just very easygoing and laid back and kind of independent and does her thing. And when we're able to be together, I mean, she also comes to a lot of shows, which is awesome. It's awesome. Yeah, so it's good.
Starting point is 00:43:46 It works. What about you? How are you doing, Pete, out there? So far, so good. Hell yeah. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of encouragement for the other person to do what they need to do and what they love to do.
Starting point is 00:44:00 So that is like a breath of fresh air for me because I feel like that wasn't always the case in, you know, past relationships. And it feels very like, you know, two independent people. Yeah. Which is awesome. Yeah. That's great. I mean, that's so important because like it's hard for me.
Starting point is 00:44:18 I need to have alone time. Yeah. And like especially when you're always just stimulated with people everyone wanting to be around you or things you gotta do I think it's gotta be hard to think about yourself sometimes you got a thing? nah I'm chilling
Starting point is 00:44:36 alright who are your idols? road dogs, out of road dogs out of road dogs? like people who crush it on the road? that's like a whole different McCartney dude
Starting point is 00:44:47 that's a whole different yeah McCartney a road dog? yeah he played lots of shows wings yeah but like they at a certain point
Starting point is 00:44:54 they were like we're not playing shows the Beatles the Beatles stopped playing shows right McCartney was still slinging it?
Starting point is 00:45:00 he always played shows he never stopped oh wow he was always he was always playing shows and mad respect to anybody especially him because he's he's in such great shape He never stopped. He was always playing shows. Mad respect to anybody, especially him because he's in such great shape.
Starting point is 00:45:11 He's still got a great voice. He still can play. Anybody who's that age who could still rip it, they did something right. Did you watch that Rick Rubin McCartney thing? I've been hearing about that. I just watched it. What did you love about it? It's incredible. I watched the first two episodes,
Starting point is 00:45:25 and it's basically Rick and Paul breaking down songs in kind of like a studio vibe. So Rick's got a mixer, and he's bringing stuff up, bringing stuff down. He's like, how'd you do this? How'd you get this sound? And Paul is just going into stories, and it's shot in all black and white.
Starting point is 00:45:41 It's really incredible. What did you learn about songwriting from it? I learned that there's so much. Paul talks a lot about him and John when they were writing songs together. And they were just bringing ideas into the studio. And an hour and a half later, it was recorded and out. It was out two weeks later. You know what I mean don't overthink like he didn't even have full songs and he came in the studio sometimes and they would just they would like you know figure out some
Starting point is 00:46:12 things and i learned that um uh george martin producer had a lot to do with a lot of the writing and arranging of everything else besides pretty much all the instruments. So he was a big factor in every early Beatles recording for sure. And those guys don't know a lot about music theory, and you don't need to know a lot about music theory. Paul McCartney does a little piano lesson, in which case he shows you how to play a C major chord. And he's like, look, then you just move it up.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Then move it up again. Move it up again. Move it up again. It's like, that's all the chords you need move it up then move it up again move it up again move it up again it's like that's all the chords you need you could write a perfectly good song with just these oh my god
Starting point is 00:46:50 that's so simple like why do we overthink music I don't know that's really surprising because there's there's a lot of I don't
Starting point is 00:46:57 there's a lot of technical proficiency in their writing you know they're like they're going lots of places a lot of cool stuff I could see
Starting point is 00:47:04 like they're just like you know discovering and arriving at these places but a lot of it seems like like you know calculated or or like you know this this just makes sense it's just like you know intricate changes and like pretty sophisticated yeah from a technical standpoint like the stones i'm like yeah those guys are just fucking sending it but like it's so true. It's so true how they write because they don't write together too. Oh, really? Mick does the 5 a.m. to 7 p.m. sessions, and Keith does the 8 to 4 a.m. So they never write together.
Starting point is 00:47:36 So Keith would just put down some stuff, and then Mick would get in there. Yeah, or vice versa. Oh, wow. Mick's team writes a tune. Are you talking about now or back in the day? I think that was happening for Bridges of wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If the next team writes a tune, then they're going to... Are you talking about now or like back in the day? I think that was happening for Bridges of Babylon. My buddy was the engineer.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Wow. He'd have to do like 16-hour days because they wanted 8 a.m., 5 a.m., wherever he was running. Is that like a beef thing or is that just like a time thing? Yeah, yeah. They don't work together good. Wow. Yeah, it's insane. That is insane.
Starting point is 00:48:02 But, you know, I interviewed Chuck Lavelle, too. He's like Uncle Chuck. You know, he's been in like Allman Brothers, Rolling Stones, and like, you know i interviewed chuck lavelle too he's like uncle chuck you know he's been in like all my brothers rolling stones and like you know he will never talk shit but chuck lavelle chuck lavelle who am i thinking of piano player chuck liddell chuck liddell's all right my dude chuck liddell dude yeah yeah yeah yeah killer yeah but that's crazy dude like talking to those old heads like that and how like what's your songwriting process
Starting point is 00:48:27 do you guys bring each song to the table or do you guys work together like who writes the lyrics like what is all that interestingly like a month ago or a few weeks ago
Starting point is 00:48:36 like yeah we worked on a song together on like Rick's Back Porch which is as like as like a it just like
Starting point is 00:48:43 it was like kind of the first time that we've... Peter joined the band, and we were just thrown in the fire. We already had... Goose had Spafford opening dates booked
Starting point is 00:48:57 in January of 2018 before Peter joined the band. It was a crazy tectonic period, and I hit him up, and he joined the band and then like you know things were just like it was a crazy tectonic period and i hit him up and like he joined the band so like we've got it feels like we've just been going this whole time you know right when you joined yeah yeah holy shit dude yeah that's insane yeah it was it was it's yeah and we kind of just like haven't stopped i think um peter like the missing link dog well i you, it's a combination of everybody.
Starting point is 00:49:26 So when you haven't stopped, so you're writing, you've basically been writing all the lyrics, writing a lot of the stuff for the band. We both write songs. But in the beginning, before Peter was rocking, when you guys came in, so how did you guys adjust,
Starting point is 00:49:39 hand off the songwriting and stuff? Was it planned or like, hey, I got this song. To what he was just talking about, that was kind of the first time that we've like ever sat down with like really really raw ideas i mean like and honestly we were we were kind of just practicing for this other thing and it wasn't even like let's hang out and write it just kind of happened and that was like kind of the first time so basically you know it's it's been a lot of like you know i bring a song table he brings a song to the table. We kind of work out, figure out how we're going to do it and execute it together,
Starting point is 00:50:09 which has been like, there's been a lot of synergy there from the get-go, which is why it clicked from the beginning in terms of how... Tell me about this process. You guys are now in the room together. Was it like come natural? Like, hey, we're writing a song together. Jeff had a date that night, I think, and so it it was pretty short-lived actually jeff was like we gotta go i was like all right man well remember this remember this part of it that's what i wrote man i want 30 okay that blows up remember i'm the songwriter here on this one no but um man i i was writing tunes in nashville um vince herman and i did uh we wrote 20 songs in uh three days with 15
Starting point is 00:50:47 different writers so there's four writers in the room every two hours and you switch you write a full song in two hours it was such a thrill to do yeah i've heard about that it's gotta be a headache with the songwriting you guys are a band wild dude it was crazy vince herman is this is insane person dude you ever kick it with vinny? No. From Leftover Salmon? No. Knowledgeable, dude. He's been in the scene. He's just like, he moved to Nashville.
Starting point is 00:51:09 If you ever get a chance to do a festival, pick his brain. He's here. He's here tonight. Oh, dude, let's kick it with Vince Herman tonight. All right. All right. I know you guys, you're busy people. A couple more questions.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Sure. And then we'll... So what's the song you write about together? Co-Clab. What's it about? I didn't get there. It's just some music. Oh, just some music. Yeah, yeah. I don't's the song you write about together? Co-Clab. What's it about? I didn't get there. It's just some music. Oh, it's just some music.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Yeah, yeah. I don't know any lyrics yet, but... Yeah, yeah, yeah. What about like... What are you guys talking about right now in your lyrics
Starting point is 00:51:33 for your new tunes? Well, I'm talking about a lot of like... I guess my parents are going through a divorce. Oh, shit. So talking about that mostly, you know. Were you guys close?
Starting point is 00:51:48 Oh, yeah. I mean, all, you know, my whole life I felt like growing up was like really, you know, beautiful. It was just like they made like a great home for me, you know. And, you know, it's hard to like realize like when you're, you know, older. Like, oh, yeah. Parents are people too, you know, and just like, and it's, you know, it's hard to like, realize like when you're, you know, older, like, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:52:08 parents are people too, you know. They have a relationship. They have a relationship. They're not just your mom and dad. Exactly. They have, they have their own goals and wants and needs
Starting point is 00:52:15 and everything like that. So, you know, it's just, it's been hard like, taking like, getting both sides, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:23 and, and, it's, went into a lot of my writing yeah what'd you learn about relationships from it a lot yeah definitely a lot you know i think i think like communication is so important yeah it makes me really value that. And just being like, I don't know, giving space and communicating. That's everything. Yeah. Isn't it crazy?
Starting point is 00:52:51 Being present is a lot harder than you think it is. Yeah. It's like everyone's like, oh, be present. Well, what the fuck? How do you know when you're truly present? When you're listening and you're understanding what the universe is. Usually you don't realize when you're being fully present. No.
Starting point is 00:53:04 You don't actually think about anything else, and you don't even realize that you're understanding what the universe is usually you don't realize when you're being fully present no you don't actually think about anything else and you don't even realize that you're doing that yeah because when you're thinking about being present you're living in the past because you're not present the biggest thing that prevents that I think is there's so much shit
Starting point is 00:53:21 and it's unique to all of us but there's so many different things that can make someone shut down. You know, like, you know, you don't really realize and like different levels of shutting down, but, you know, certain situations or certain, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:53:35 all kinds of dynamics and stuff like that. You just, you know, shut down on, even if it's a little bit, then that's, you know, biting your presence. Yeah. And it's gotta be hard when maybe you're burnt out, just did a big run of shows, you come home, and you're like, baby. I got nothing.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I got nothing for you. My brain is fried. Yeah. And they're understanding about that now? They get it? Or is it still hard for them to get? Yeah. You know, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:02 I don't know. It's hard, dude. Yeah. It's a human. Like, we, I don't know. It's hard. Yeah. I don't, that's a human, like we're all human. Right. It's like the same thing of being, not being conscious that your parents might were tiffing when we were kids because we're like in love with the whole idea of family, you know, like everything happened.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Like when we take a step back, I think it's just getting older too. It's like, you don't dread the little things. You take a step back, take the microscope away and like try to see things for what it is right right it's like uh you told me about your your dad right yeah yeah and that must be hard and like as you get older how do you how are you learning about that idea from earlier oh you know to your question before like it's it's getting easier to write about. That one, I couldn't really write about it. I was like, oh, I should obviously write a song about this.
Starting point is 00:54:53 And it was whack every time. So it's kind of like, I don't know. That was a big one. And it's sort of, I guess, in recent years, has gotten closer to the surface. It was pretty far from the surface previously. So, yeah, I mean, I don't know. It's an ongoing thing.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I haven't, still, same deal. I haven't cracked the code. You will, though, if you're thinking about cracking the code. Some people just distract themselves with fucking drugs and oat milk and the whole thing. Well, the oat milk, yeah. No, but about cracking the code. Some people just distract themselves with fucking drugs and oat milk. Well, the oat milk, yeah. No, but that's the thing. We're finally being aware that we don't have enough time in the day
Starting point is 00:55:33 to not distract ourselves with anything that doesn't matter. So keep rocking, boys. I fucking love it. And I'm proud of you. It's like you know i i feel i feel horrible that was a expressing my um my anxieties about my family on y'all when you just rolled into the show in connecticut when we did the first interview you were yeah i that's why i went to therapy i like i was like that was the the month before i started going to therapy about why I was all fucked up.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Gotcha. So I was very curious about that. I really respected that. I obviously didn't expect it, but it was honestly refreshing to just talk openly and freely and fearlessly about stuff like that. I think everyone could use a little more of that. It's uncomfortable and like, you know, it's difficult,
Starting point is 00:56:30 but we all kind of need to just be real about this stuff. You know? Yeah. That leads to my next question. Are you depressed? I'm just kidding. No, we're done.
Starting point is 00:56:40 We're done. Stay tuned for next time. No, I really appreciate your company and you know I know we don't really know each other and I just want to say from an outsider looking in that I'm just fucking proud and it's a lot
Starting point is 00:56:53 of work and it's got to be stressful it's got to be just fucking you have to be everywhere and think 10 steps ahead sometimes you're doing a great job so keep rocking we appreciate you man thanks for being on the show one last question I know we didn't talk about this last time but 10 steps ahead sometimes is saying you're doing a great job. So keep rocking, boys. We appreciate you, man. Thank you so much for having us. Thanks for being on the show.
Starting point is 00:57:06 One last question. I know we didn't talk about this last time, but when it's all said and done, what do you want to be remembered by? Oh, man. It's kind of loaded, right? Yeah. Kind of a loaded question.
Starting point is 00:57:18 It's the end of the show. Like, you know, when I'm out? Yeah, when you're out. I don't know, man. That's up to them. Do you think about death? Yeah, when you're out. I don't know, man. That's up to them. You think about death? Yeah. What's your take on death?
Starting point is 00:57:30 You know, there's like, there's, recently actually, I've kind of been thinking about it a lot. This year in particular. Same, me too. Yeah, I don't know what it was. Like this winter and stuff like that, it was really on my mind a whole lot. like this winter and stuff like that. It was really on my mind a whole lot. And, you know, kind of observing these like two sides,
Starting point is 00:57:50 like the human in me is obviously scared of it. But I think ultimately, I think I'm more scared of like the experience of dying than death. It's like, I'm not scared to like go to the next. I'm not scared to go through the door. Yeah. It's walking there. Yeah. Just like two minutes of like, I got like shot. I'm like, holy go through the door. Yeah. I just like, yeah, just like the, like,
Starting point is 00:58:06 like two minutes of like, I got like shot. I'm like, holy shit. That's right. That's where, like, I always think about plane crash.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Like it takes a minute. Right. That's my biggest fear of dying. Yeah. It's going to take a minute for me to die, to hit something. Right. You know, like that walk,
Starting point is 00:58:20 like you're talking about. I must, that's, I think that's, I don't know, like as you get older like i i interview people with cancer and stuff and interview people like who are dying that's like when i want to i've been taking interviews at like funeral or like not funerals but old people
Starting point is 00:58:36 have homes and stuff yeah and just trying to hear their stories and get all their stories out but it's like i need to ask them about death and it's like it's um they're more acceptable of the walk now as you get older i think we're just realizing that we're not 20 year old punks and we could right put like i get ass reflex now that's just the beginning of the walk to death i don't want to fuck with anything else you know yeah yeah it's my thought of on it has really kind of been changing recently like i've really been i think realizing how profound of a spiritual experience it must be it's gotta be you know um i don't know y'all ever take dmt i have not i think that's like the closest thing because they shoot that shit out of your brain to make you not feel whatever's happening.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Yeah. That's the other thing. Like, you know, I don't know. It depends on how, you know, deep down the spiritual rabbit hole you want to get. But like the, you know, that moment of like, oh my God, I just got chopped in half and I'm going to be alive for another two minutes and like just look at my guts or whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Like I think, think yeah right that sounds like it sucks but i i kind of also suspect that from the spiritual level like you're like kind of already out of your body at that point yeah and like you're not you're not really like yeah you're right it's kind of it's probably like a pretty weird experience but yeah your mental thoughts in that point are probably not it's not like you're feeling it yeah yeah you're definitely not i don't think you're feeling it I just think about people When they had wars with big old swords And shit
Starting point is 01:00:08 Can you imagine that shit? That is the scariest shit Alright boy get out there With a big old sword Like a big line charging the next line Are we that soft? Which is like watching Netflix These dudes used to get in a field and just go at it
Starting point is 01:00:24 That's crazy yeah first of all like why I don't know I just can't wrap my head around like unless it was for a really good reason I can't wrap my head around like I actually wanted to like
Starting point is 01:00:33 religion kill people it's not control like that's like that's such a up and close killing oh yeah
Starting point is 01:00:40 where like you see like that's that's the worst about watching these like Saving Private Ryan's and shit is like the eyeballs like seeing like you stare dude that's the worst about watching these Saving Private Ryan's and shit, is the eyeballs. Oh, God. Seeing, you stare.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Dude, that movie fucked me up when I was a kid. Dude, the guy getting stabbed in the heart. It fucked me up. And you see, I was like, ugh. It fucked me up, too, dude. It was big time. I saw that when I was really young. I was like, whoa.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Yeah. That's when maybe, then I see all the blood, like Lord of the, what's that movie on HBO? Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones and shit. Game of Thrones, yeah yeah it's like god fuck thank god so cheers to cheers to like our only worry is set list so much to be grateful for uh guys jesus keep rocking thanks so much i love you i'll be ruining you on and uh you know all my dave dc on is i i'm just so Keep going Love you too bro Love you bro
Starting point is 01:01:25 Have a good day Love you man Now A message from the UN The white line was so thin I'm sinking in This blow wasn't real Not that I can feel
Starting point is 01:01:45 Gave me the wrong kind Yeah, I sure fucking mind That wasn't cool As I sit here and drool Look just the same They're not the same Come in small plastic bags This work looks like a hang
Starting point is 01:02:02 One gets you up But now I'm just stuck This isn't fun It just fucking sucks Don't let the wooks get you high It's probably ketamine Before you snort that line It could be ketamine.
Starting point is 01:02:25 I can't feel my legs, ketamine. I'm on the floor super high, fuck ketamine. Fuck ketamine. Fuck Ketamine. Don't do it, man. Fuck Ketamine. And there you have it. Thank you, Goose. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Rick and Pete, giving your boy Frasco another shot at that. I know your fan base was pissed about the first interview. See, I don't look at the fan pages, groups. You know, I'm insecure that they're all talking shit about interviews I do. But I overheard a couple of things people said about how some of the fans of the Goose band didn't like my first interview so i hope that was a better one for you but um that's it guys i hope you had fun we said it all for this week um i know i told you about the shows we're having this week and but we have a couple more i want to i want to
Starting point is 01:03:39 let you know about we have summer camp yeah let do it. We're on the big stage this time, baby. Let's go. Let's fucking go. Jacked up about that. We're playing Saturday, August 21st at summer camp. Then we're at Backwoods Fest again on the main stage too. Shout out to Backwoods putting us on the main stage. No more 2 a.m. slots for Backwoods. Thank God. It's hard to play 2 a.m. slots. I had to do that twice at Floyd Fest, and I'm like, damn, I'm getting old. Because I don't want to, because I'm not at the festival, I'll just want to drink all day,
Starting point is 01:04:13 and I can't because I have to gig, and I don't want to roll in there like a fucking bat out of hell, all wasted at two, and then having to try to be a front man and conduct the band and stuff so staying sober but they put us on the main stage there then we're doing cockiesville um hot august nights with um our boys green sky bluegrass hell yes that's gonna be fun shaky
Starting point is 01:04:37 graves it's gonna be a fun one that'll be a good one and then the 29th we're back at dewey beach starboard our own show they got the whole whole gang back. It'll be a fun time. On August 31st, we're at Isle of Palm, South Carolina at the Windjammer right on the beach. That's a fun one. Shout out to Charleston. Let's go, Charleston. My people.
Starting point is 01:04:57 My fucking people. Get your tickets. That should sell out. I mean, it is a big venue and I don't think I've sold that many tickets before in Charleston. Maybe it'll sell out. But if not, it's a great place to see the band. It's on the beach, and if you're not from Charleston and don't know what the Windjammer is, it's a fun venue.
Starting point is 01:05:18 September 1st, we're at Charlotte, North Carolina, at the Heist Brewery. I just saw my boy Ryan Williams, who's promoting the show. That's going to be fun. And then September 2nd. Yes, Bonnaroo. It's going down, people. I'm going to pump you up because this is one of the biggest shows of my life. It's going to be huge. We're closing out Thursday night in the big tent. I'm pulling out all the bells and whistles. It's going down. So come on. Come on out to Bonnaroo. Then the fourth, we're playing in Benton, Illinois
Starting point is 01:05:48 at Framley Fest. All my Illinois people out there, if you can't get to Bonnaroo, get to Framley Fest. We're playing with Neil Francis. I can't remember who else is playing. Mickey's friend is booking it. I said, yeah, I'll come out to that.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Then the tour starts, September. Then the talent show with Nick Gerlach sign up I know Nick's probably not even fucking finding people in the talent show he's gonna make me do all this shit Nick you better find some people in the talent show that's all I'm gonna say so September 8th
Starting point is 01:06:20 through December 19th god damn such a long tour September 8th through December 19th. God damn, such a long tour. September 8th through December 11th is the fall tour. I hope you like it. All right, guys, that's it. Stay safe. Stay inspired.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Don't take no shit from nobody. And like I said in the beginning of the show, be exactly who the fuck you want to be. Fuck all the haters. They don't want you to be you. Tell them to suck your dick or your vagina from the back. Let them smell that three-day festival ass. Gross. All right. I love you. I'll see you next week. Who's on the show next week? Oh, damn. Yeah. Dave from Chromio. That's gonna be a fun one.
Starting point is 01:07:05 That was a great interview. I liked him. He's super smart. He's got like a PhD in French literature from Columbia. I'm like, whoa, this guy's way too smart for me. But I think we had a good conversation about everything. And I think you're gonna really like that one. I got a bunch of slamming interviews coming up.
Starting point is 01:07:23 I'm smashing these interviews, y'all. Hope you're still interested. Glad you're staying on board. I can't believe we're at 134 fucking episodes. Shout out to y'all for riding with me. Let's go. Frasco gang, tough as fuck. No one can fuck with us.
Starting point is 01:07:39 I love it. All right, be safe. I love you. Arno, give me something sweet. Shout out to everyone. Chris Lorenz who edits the podcast, my bass player. Shout out to Joe Angel Howe helping me brief all these interviews. And of course, Nick Gerlach, my co-host most of the time.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Shout out to Mara Davis. Oh, it's her birthday. Happy birthday, Mara. And shout out to Brian Schwartz and Rachel and everyone I don't think Rachel listens to the podcast but I know Brian does so shout out to everyone in the gang everyone is helping me with my career I love y'all ride or dies
Starting point is 01:08:16 let's get this shit oh and Sean and the band I'm going to thank everybody everyone involved in the Frasco business I love you we love the fuck out of you stay safe and I'll see you next week I'm going to thank everybody. Let's go. Everyone involved in the Frasco business, I love you. We love the fuck out of you. All right, stay safe, and I'll see you next week.
Starting point is 01:08:34 You tuned in to the World's Health Podcast with Andy Fresco, now in its fourth season. Thank you for listening to this episode, produced by Andy Fresco, Joe Angelo, and Chris Lawrence. We need you to help us save the world and spread the word. Please subscribe, rate the show, give us those crazy stars, iTunes, Spotify, wherever you're picking this shit up. Follow us on Instagram at World Saving Podcast for more info and updates. Prescott's blogs and tour dates you'll find at andyfrescott.com.
Starting point is 01:09:02 And check our socials to see what's up next. Might be a video dance party, a showcase concert, that crazy shit show, or whatever springs to Andy's wicked brain. And after a year of keeping clean and playing safe, the band is back on tour. We thank our brand new talent booker, Mara Davis. We thank this week's guest, our co-host
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