Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 15: The Stone Foxes
Episode Date: July 24, 2018In our mission to save the world, we open with a PSA to learn you the importance of protecting yourself from STD's (Sexually Transmitted Demons). We hear some crazy stories from Yeti's past and learn ...why he's never seen a single Harry Potter movie. Also! San Francisco rock band, The Stone Foxes, are up on the interview hour and talk genre labeling, music licensing, and how gentrification is stifling the music scene of the bay area. The Cocuzza Bros reminisce about that one time... This is Episode 15. To keep up with the podcast, follow us on Instagram @WorldSavingPodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, tour dates, the band and the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com The views discussed on this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of the guests. Keep up to speed with our guest, The Stone Foxes, by visiting: www.thestonefoxes.com Thanks to our sponsor, Receptra. Visit them at receptranaturals.com Produced by Andy Frasco Yeti Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Ahri Findling Shawn Eckels Matt & Chad Cocuzza Arno Bakker
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Andy, it's Schwartz.
Listen, you're what, 30?
This is insane for me to even have to tell you or remind you,
but please, you need to protect yourself from STDs and getting women pregnant.
It's not a joke.
STDs are real.
Pregnancy happens.
Please. And I'm not even, I STDs are real. Pregnancy happens. Please.
And I'm not even, I'm just baffled.
Like, this is something I would tell our 16-year-old.
And now, your Planned Parenthood moment of the week.
You can pick up that.
All I was asking you to do was pick up those three parts.
All I'm asking you to do is pick up those three parts.
Gosh, stop.
You don't get to watch TV.
All I asked you to do is pick up those three little pieces.
I can be a big jerk. Yes, I can.
Stick your cock up her ass, you motherfucking worthless... I told you to stop.
Because what you just did, I don't think you get to watch TV.
It burns!
Yeah, and you yell at me for telling you to shut up?
Please, don't.
I didn't even tell you to shut up and you yelled at me.
And we're here.
Another one.
Another one.
And another one.
How we doing, people? is andy frasco we are listening to
the world saving podcast with a motherfucking yeah yeah how we doing baby good i was just
thinking about how every time i go to trivia in a bar yeah i win something oh my you cocky
motherfucker i know i know shit about it just pick a subject i'll tell you something about it
no what about Like trivia?
Anything.
No, explain this.
You always win something.
I used to read trivial pursuit cards in the bathroom
when I was taking a shit in like middle school and high school.
What?
That's what I did.
Oh, I can't stay in the bathroom longer than I have in my business.
I know.
You're quick.
I don't like that.
I don't like to be hanging out in my filth.
You and Meg are very similar
that's why you and I
are in love
yeah
thanks Yeti
before things get any weirder
weirder
so what do you win?
trivia
so you guys do trivia at bars?
yeah Geeks Who Drink
that's a nationally syndicated thing
I thought you were talking about
like oh fucking
I play that arcade game
where I throw a ball and I win something.
Ski ball?
Ski ball.
That's one of my favorites.
I love arcade bars.
There's one in Boise called the Space Bar.
Okay, so you're just a trivia guy.
Trivia, yeah.
I show up to trivia night and I win something.
My team does well.
Yeah?
Let's see what kind of trivia you know.
I'm going to Google. You're going to pull up some trivia? This kind of trivia you know. I'm going to Google.
You're going to pull up some trivia?
This is going to be good.
I'm going to do trivia questions.
Are you sure you're on the internet?
Oh, damn you are.
I am.
Yeah, I'm prepared.
You're perpetually on the internet.
We parked in a parking lot in our van right now
because the band is sleeping
because they drove overnight.
They drove us so we could rest and do stuff.
Yeah, so we slept.
And now it's 10 in the morning.
We don't want to bother them so we're in our van
in a parking lot
outside a hotel
doing podcasts
looking like crazy people.
But the windows are tinted
as like limo black.
Okay.
What story?
I mean, what theme do you want?
Do pop culture.
Pop culture.
Okay.
Oh, here we go.
15 pop culture trivia questions people always get.
Always get?
Wrong?
Hold on.
Always get wrong.
Perfect.
Okay.
All right.
I think you're a pop culture pro.
Do you know anything about Harry Potter? No, I don't know anything about Harry Potter because I didn't watch any of them I think you're a pop culture pro. Do you know anything about Harry Potter?
No, I don't know anything about Harry Potter because I didn't watch any of them.
Because you're 50.
No, because I was a Christian and I thought it was witchcraft.
Really?
Legit.
Yeah, it's stupid.
I don't even want to talk about that right now.
This is fun.
No, I want to talk about that.
No, fuck this game.
What?
The church manipulated you?
Oh, God.
It was horrible.
I was in college when Harry Potter hit, right?
At the Christian University there,
I played basketball.
What?
Stupid.
Fucking stupid.
It came out,
and there was this huge movement
in evangelical Christianity
that was like,
that Harry Potter was witchcraft repackaged.
Because Harry Potter is magic.
You know, is, you know.
But it is. It's spells and all that
stuff. But, I mean,
you have to remember these, the
only way religion works is if it makes people
afraid of it. That's the only
way religion works. Alright. Tell me.
I don't agree
with this. I'm just going to say that. But I,
yeah, so. Witchcraft. Tell me I don't agree with this I'm just gonna say that But I Yeah
So
Witchcraft
Tell me what they manipulated you
Thinking that fucking Harry Potter
A fictional story
That someone made
Was about witchcraft
That's crazy
You're right
I agree
That is crazy
So the Harry Potter thing was
Oh that's a part of the occult
the which is the the formerly known as all of the you know i mean think of like the church of satan
is thrown into the occult but there's things like the branch davidians and david koresh and
the fundamentalists lds church those are occults too and as a christian growing up in mormon i think
it's a cult christians don't think they're in Mormon Idaho. Do people think it's a cult?
Christians don't think they're in a cult,
but they are.
They're fucking in a cult.
They absolutely are.
Like look up the definition.
The government has defining rules
for what's a cult.
And you look that up.
What are the rules?
What are the rules?
Look it up.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I turned off my phone.
Okay.
I'll find it.
What are the basis of it?
Follow a single person.
Jesus.
Okay.
Makes claims to be God.
Yeah.
Okay, and Christians will say,
Jesus never claimed to be God.
And I'm like, yeah, but you're making him God.
So Jesus was cool.
Like that person that lived around 2000 years ago.
That was a real person.
He really existed.
Was he the son of God? Absolutely fucking not. Doesn't exist. That was a real person. He really existed. Was he the son of God?
Absolutely fucking not. Doesn't exist.
That's a fairy tale. You know what? There's another fairy tale
that's really popular right now about somebody being the son
of God and coming to save the world. You know what it is?
You know what that character's name is? Thor.
I'm not
kidding. Tell him, Yelly.
I'll get on a soapbox here because it pisses
me off.
I'm tired of people brainwashing people
in the name of fear and control.
Like that is bullshit.
Like let somebody figure it out on their own.
Let them know this is how I look at the world.
There's nothing wrong with a Christian worldview.
I'm not opposed to that.
I'm not opposed to you thinking
that God created the heavens and the earth.
I'm not opposed to you thinking
that the only way for you to get to the next life
is to believe in Jesus Christ, that he's your savior and the tenants that are Christianity.
I'm not opposed to you doing that, but don't fucking tell me I have to too.
Rock and roll Yeti. Because I did that. I told people that they had to live the way I had lived
and I was wrong. Yeah. How, what was that epiphany like
when you found out like,
oh shit.
I was in Africa.
I'm getting brainwashed.
Yeah.
I was in Africa,
2004.
I was in Uganda,
Africa on this church mission thing.
That was like a long thing,
six,
six weeks,
which,
you know,
it's a pretty long time to be in Africa.
And we were in Uganda
and I was riding with this guy
that I had known my entire life.
And I'd looked up to him.
He was a missionary.
And there was all these stories about missionaries
that were living their life for God
and been killed by cannibalistic tribesmen
and all this bullshit.
There was propaganda spread by the church.
There may have been people that were killed by cannibals,
but it's because they were walking into an area
they shouldn't have been in.
It's not because these people hated Christians.
Like, duh, they're encountering them for the first time. Okay. I digress.
We're driving in Southern Uganda to a trading post called Mbarara. And
this dude says, I asked him about this thing called entire sanctification, which is a belief
within the belief structure that I was in.
And he's like, yeah, I don't sin anymore.
The dude tells me this.
And the New Testament says,
he who says he is without sin is a liar
and should be cast out.
And so like,
it clicks in my brain and I'm like,
holy cow, this thing is all bull.
And now I would say, holy fuck, this is bullshit.
And I was in a van, like one of those micro buses.
And this dude tells me this and I'm like,
I tuned out everything else he had to say.
And I was just like, you're a fucking liar.
Like I knew that people, I knew.
And at that point, I wasn't where I am now
where I think sin and doing good are actual things.
I think there's good things to do and bad things to do.
But I don't believe that anything I do will damn me to hell.
So I don't think sin is the right word.
But it's just a signpost.
I digress again.
That is insane.
So what happened when you came back to America?
When I came back to America when I came back to America it was tough
like I actually
when I came back to the US I met the woman that I would
eventually marry and
I was on that journey through that
like trying to figure
out who I was and even when I married her
I was still on it and then a few years
later I was like fuck it I'm done with this
it took me five or six years to get
to a point where I was completely done with that and part of that was me going and working for a
church and not as a pastor but as a an operations uh person but i mean you had to have moral there
was moral ethics there was moral guidelines and all this um it was one of the worst experiences
of my life they preach about being awake
and like being enlightened, they say.
Yeah.
But it's-
Being Christ.
Yeah.
Christ is another word for enlightenment.
But they're not really awake.
No, they're not.
And that's what's so stupid is that there's these parables
that are quoted, attributed to Jesus.
And yes, I go back to it.
Jesus was a real person.
There's first century historians that vouch for his existence and the things he said. They've been taken out of context and totally
used to just beat people into submission throughout the centuries that it's been said.
But he said things like parables that talked about light and consciousness, that if you look at it
through that light, that's exactly what he's talking about. But we get caught up that, you know, all that gets caught up in what's he really talking
about?
It's just stupid.
Yeah.
Sorry.
You're just like, uh-huh.
No, I'm just stoned and trying to understand this because I was never a religious guy.
No.
Yeah.
I was always, you know, I was Jewish, but I was like, I just had my bar mitzvah.
I didn't really study.
We went to the high holidays and shit.
I fucking went to the
you know
ain't think of felt a fish
on fucking
whatever
you know
and fasted for a day
or cheat
I actually cheated
I always used to sneak a cookie
have something up in the bedroom
yeah
but
yeah
I think that's what helped me
with my ideas
of reading
different ideas
like Taltic wisdom
I read a lot of i read a lot about like
you know existential buddhism like oh show i love oh show until i found out he was a fucking sex
freak and now i love him even more it was crazy dude oh you were telling me about wild wild
countries such a wild dog i mean like i don't think it was him. It was like the same thing as people overanalyzing Christ and his message.
Right.
It was the same thing the people that were in the commune were overanalyzing Osho's message.
Osho was just talking about freedom.
Same thing was, you know, I mean, I've kind of understood the Bible, not like verse by verse,
but I think it's the concept of just being free and enlightenment,
right? It's being free.
It is.
The Bible,
the way the Bible says it,
it said, in Christ you are free.
Through Christ you have freedom.
I would challenge anybody who has a belief structure that is
based around that,
the Judeo-Christian, Jesus Christ,
Godhead thing,
substitute Christ for consciousness
and you'll start seeing things
that you've never thought you could ever see.
Like suddenly things make sense.
And then also get rid of all the rules
that say you can't do this or can't do that.
Like, yeah, don't kill people, don't steal, don't lie.
Those are good things.
But like, you know, be good to people to people like it's just it's not hard
so i used to go to church i went to church more than i went to did you go to youth group with
friends or something like that i went to church on sundays with my buddy oh okay because i just
wanted to hang out it was i i don't i wasn't paying attention i was trying to flirt with
girls yeah yeah and um i was young flirting with girls. I was like that hooking up with them.
You were a wolf among the sheep.
Dude, legit.
It was just fun. Wednesday, church, whatever day.
Yeah, yeah. Youth group night. Wednesday night. I did it every day.
A band played and shit. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? I was just playing basketball
with the Christians and shit with my little afro, like totally Jewish.
Who's that black kid?
Yeah, exactly
I was like
Giving me some
I'm ADD as fuck
I always needed to do something
So you were the kid
That
Were you like
Well known in your high school?
I was kind of
Popular so to speak?
I mean I knew everybody
I wasn't like
I wanted to be popular
It's not like you were
An all-star athlete
But I mean you were a swimmer
But I was around everywhere
I was around everywhere
Your social butterfly
Yeah I was student everywhere. I was around everywhere. You were a social butterfly.
Yeah.
I was student council.
I ran fundraisers for the school.
I did concerts where I'd raise $30,000. All you had to say was student council.
I know exactly who you were.
Yeah.
I wasn't student council.
I did student council for one year because you get out at noon every day.
Oh, you would?
I'd start swim.
Swim was at 5 a.m and i'd just go to class
till noon so i could work i work at a capital and drive through records oh you did so i was
going straight to hollywood for the valley gotcha yeah so basically like i didn't do anything but i
got out and i had to organize events basically was peace out i'm i'm booking the key club tonight i
gotta fucking i got email on a wednesday, I got to get there before soundcheck.
That's what you were doing.
I was 16, now 17.
Hustling bar mitzvahs.
Hustling, yeah, DJing bar mitzvahs.
That was dope.
I almost got my ass kicked
at one bar mitzvah.
Was this in the, what?
Yeah, this guy punked me.
I was hooking up with this girl, Meredith,
and I don't know, something went down. I just maybeoking up with this girl, Meredith, and I don't know.
Something went down. I just maybe
just discommunicated with her or something.
She was from a private school.
You stopped talking to her? Yeah, I was trying to flirt
with her friend or something. I didn't know. I didn't
understand that. That's probably a bad idea
to flirt with the best friend.
It doesn't work out.
She booked me for this
gig and then had this guy come up to me Doesn't work out. Yeah. Then she got, so she booked me for this, for this gig.
And then had this guy come up to me,
big ass dude.
Like,
you fucking with Meredith?
And it was like,
I was DJing her party.
You fucking with Meredith?
Like,
you need to go up to her.
She grabbed me by my fucking face.
Grabbed you by your face.
Or my,
my,
my hair. Yeah. Apologize or me by your face. Or my hair.
Yeah.
Apologize or get on your knees.
I'm like, I was so embarrassed.
He did this in front of everybody?
Yeah, in front of everyone.
It was fucked up.
And I was like, I wanted to cry because that was a really embarrassing moment.
I was in seventh grade.
It's heartbreaking.
Eighth grade.
That's horrible.
Yeah.
And I got embarrassed embarrassed i didn't
have a car so i then i was stuck at the party until my dad picked me up and i then i had to
get all my dj gear so you took it all down and just left and just sat outside i got paid though
yeah i got paid i got paid before the show right yeah i'll still get paid for this yeah
always get paid for the show get paid before you work. Just in case. So at least I wasn't
500 bucks down.
Yeah.
She was a rich girl, so.
You're like,
I still got your money.
I got your money.
Yeah.
I apologized
and you still paid me.
Yeah, it was fucked up.
I apologized.
I didn't want to get
my ass kicked.
I had no friends out there.
I went by myself.
I'm in like no man's land
and fucking kids
are fucking mean.
Dude, people are mean.
It sucks.
That's why I don't want to be mean to people.
It's fucked up.
That's why I feel so bad.
I don't know.
I'm just really sensitive.
And that shit.
I mean, my mom is super sensitive.
I grew up with women.
So I knew how to try to treat women right.
That was my main thing. I wanted to treat women right you know that was my main thing i wanted
to treat women you know they always put that you treat them with respect you know i was like
you know i don't care don't be an asshole you know my sister eight year older than me
it's kind of right in my head and then i was trying to be the best person i can i still got
fucking yeah i had to fucking I was embarrassed as fuck.
It sucked.
What can you do? You got to get
up, get your gear, and move on to the next
thing. It's your harrowing
middle school story that you'll share on the
Moth someday.
Or just on the World's Hating Podcast.
I haven't thought about that in a long time.
Yeah, I can tell. That hurt my feelings.
I can see the pain, man. I feel you. I'm empathetic towards that, a long time. Yeah, I can tell. That hurt my feelings. I could see the pain, man.
I feel you.
I'm empathetic towards that, man.
Yeah.
It's okay.
Embarrassing middle school stories.
Yeah.
Let's listen to this interview.
All right, cool.
While I cry in the corner.
And I'll tell you my embarrassing middle school story after.
Enjoy it.
We got a very fun one for you this week.
We have the Stone Foxes
from San Francisco, California.
These guys
just had to deal with some horror shit
right now with
someone stealing their whole fucking van
and their trailer. They tell you the
story. It's fucking nuts. These guys are
great dudes. I met them at Mountain Jam.
What can I say? They're awesome. Their music's great. They sat in with us. We did some jamming.
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when the shit got jacked. Enjoy guys.
Here we fucking are. We're in Mountain Jam. We're with the Stone Foxes. What's up, dude?
Shannon, Vince, how you doing?
Doing good, man. Thanks for having us.
Excellent. How are you, buddy?
It's early as fuck, guys. It's earlier for you, I think.
I know. When our manager said, oh, yeah, we're going to have this interview at 11 a.m., I'm like, fuck.
Rise and shine, dude. Meet the day.
Oh, man. So where were you guys yesterday?
We were in Connecticut, Norfolk.
How is Connecticut?
It was good. There was surf and turf.
Surf and turf, and I had some salmon. You had surf and turf and salmon? Well, I had the salmon.. There was surf and turf. Surf and turf.
And I had some salmon.
You had surf and turf and salmon?
Well, I had the salmon.
I had the surf and turf.
He had the salmon.
They fed us well at this theater.
Oh, so the hospitality is dope there. Exactly, yeah.
We have a member in our band, Brian the Buffalo.
We call him Buff.
And he, at every meal, decides who wins.
So he goes around and he says,
and he looks around and he always has buyer's regret, too.
So, like, he looks around and he goes,
oh, you won, dude.
You won.
Oh, that looks so good.
You won.
And then he's really sad.
I definitely lost.
Yeah.
Does he try to eat it?
No.
No.
That's nice of him.
See, my aspect, oh, no, this looks better than my meal.
I'd start eating that shit.
You would go across the table
with a fork and pursue?
Yes, when you live with a band
for 12 years in a van,
anything is possible.
Totally.
Oh, my goodness.
Stone Foxes.
We have a lot of things in common.
First, you guys started
in San Francisco State.
I went to college
for a whole semester
in San Francisco State.
A whole semester.
I was telling you.
Mary Park gave me my first ever jock itch on the dick.
And I've never been the same ever since.
I thought I was an STD.
I really did.
I was like, fuck.
I'm fucked.
I went to the doctor.
My dick looks like Edward Scissorhands right now.
Or Freddy Krueger.
I'm like, god damn it.
Oh, you made it all right.
We made it all right we made it all right
my dick's live and healthy it's breathing well i had a roommate named xander one of my roommates
named xander who said that he was in a fight club that happened behind mary park yeah and he would
come back to the room and he would have bruises and he was like and we'd be playing mortal combat
or something on on tv he's like you guys really want to fight i know he was like, and we'd be playing Mortal Kombat or something on TV.
He's like, you guys really want to fight?
I know a place to fight.
And we were like, I don't think so, dude.
In the trees and shit?
Like right on the back of that?
Yeah, behind near the trees.
Did you ever go with him?
No, but he came in swinging a sock of quarters one time,
like in the room.
And we were like, dude,
you have to keep that behind Mary Park, dude.
You can't bring it into our nice Towers room,
into our nice little luxury suite.
This is what happens when you convince kids
that you could stay all year round for $800 a semester just to party.
You know, you don't have any school debt.
Totally.
You're fucking partying.
San Francisco State, I was worried because it was a commuter school.
Yeah.
And I was like, oh, there's not.
I just wanted a dorm life so bad.
I don't know.
You too?
No.
You don't get much of that.
I wanted radio.
You wanted radio?
That's what I wanted.
I wanted to be a broadcaster.
Oh, dude.
They have a great radio program.
That's all.
Now it makes sense.
I wanted to be the next Giants broadcaster.
Really?
Oh, so you're a sports guy?
Oh, totally. Who's your teams? Well, I'm all about the Dubs and the Giants broadcaster. Really? Oh, so you're a sports guy? Oh, totally.
Who's your teams?
Well, I'm all about the Dubs and the Giants.
Oh, yeah.
Congrats.
But Vinny's from Chicago and Notre Dame.
Oh, so you're a Bulls fan, Notre Dame.
Yeah, nice.
But I'm definitely kind of a Giants fan as far as baseball,
but I can't tell my Cubs friends that.
Yeah, you can't tell them you're a Warriors fan either, I don't think.
Yeah, Warriors, I teeter back and forth on.
I like them. Yeah, all the Warriors tell me you're a Warriors fan either I don't think. Warriors I teeter back and forth on. I like them but.
Yeah all the Warriors
fans were Lakers fans
in 2001.
Sure.
From Southern California.
Oh.
Yeah it's like you see
them jump ship.
Now we're trying to
get LeBron.
Now everyone's like
go Lakers.
Were you guys
trying to get Kawhi
or trying to get LeBron?
You can't have it all.
No it's a fucking dream.
You guys are fucking
this.
I hate fucking
Lakers Twitter so much
because it gets my hopes up.
Every year,
I get my fucking hopes up
this time
and no one shows up
to the fucking Lakers, dude.
Just be like us
and acquire everything.
Yeah, you guys...
Buy it all.
Dude, that's a great story
about that guy from Golden State.
He bought Golden State
for like super cheap
and now it's like
a $2 billion company.
Oh, it's crazy.
Those guys are smart.
It's crazy.
All right,
enough about basketball. Let's talk about the fucking band, dude. Yeah. Let guys are smart. That's crazy. All right. Enough about basketball.
Let's talk about the fucking band, dude.
Yeah.
Let's do it.
Dudes, first off, I'm so sorry what happened about your van getting broken into.
So are we, bro.
Let's talk about that first.
I know this is a fresh wound.
I'm just like trying to stick my dick into a fresh wound.
You're trying to make us cry is what you're trying to do.
Talk to me.
What happened?
Explain the situation.
We're in Dallas, Texas.
And I didn't think Dallas was a type of city that would jack everything.
It's one person in Dallas.
It's not about the city.
We've heard some stories.
I don't know.
Chicago is pretty fucked up.
After we kind of got this thing going, a lot of people were saying they've had similar stories or heard similar stories.
And along that stretch of highway, it's happened like four or five times in the past month or two.
So the next day,
somebody said Liz Phair
got jacked in Dallas.
So it's like a thing.
Oh, it's got to be
like a mafia association
like how St. Louis
has that too
where they'll attack,
they'll see a band festival
is going on
and they'll have 20 cars.
We had a great time
with the show.
I mean, our fans in Dallas
are great.
We love playing there,
but it's just
one of those things, man.
So the day before,
you know, or maybe it's the morning of those things, man. So the day before... The luck of the road, you know?
Well, tell me... Or maybe it's the morning of.
Maybe the morning of is where to begin
because I almost got a ticket
for jaywalking in Flagstaff.
I was in a park stretching
and I was, you know,
expanding my mind a little early in the morning.
Not with any hallucinogenics,
but just by stretching. And then it was a busy know, expanding my mind a little early in the morning. Not with any hallucinogenics, but just by stretching.
And then it was a busy street.
But there's, you know, it's one of those crosswalks where you can't cross here.
You'd have to go across the other street to cross.
So I said, fuck it.
There's a couple extra streets involved in this particular crossing for sure.
Yeah, so I ran across a busy street.
And I didn't know there would be a young cop who would pursue me.
But he was nice and let me off with a warning banged on banged on a motel door what yeah oh totally he was like
sir sir sir uh did you know you were jaywalking i was like yeah yeah i'm sorry he's like well
what band are you in and then he tried to be nice you know so what did you say i thought we're in a
band uh i always go when next cops i'm like we're in a band. I always go with Winix Cops.
I'm like, we're in a Christian rock band, dude.
It's all good.
Oh, no.
Don't search the van, please.
I was like, I'm not used to crosswalks.
I'm from San Francisco.
I don't know anything about crosswalks.
No, he was cool.
You don't want to drop that.
No.
We ain't in San Francisco no more, boy.
Exactly.
That's what you're going to get.
But so it started there.
Then when we got to the venue venue we felt like something was wrong
with our trailer and the suspension had given out on our trailer like this piece was dangling on the
ground and we heard it scraping on the on the street as we were riding up so we got and we're
like damn it every tour something goes wrong yeah can't we just have one tour where nothing breaks in the van? Oh, I hate that.
And we got that fixed,
miraculously.
And so we thought,
oh,
yeah, we thought,
oh,
the bad thing already happened.
Then we woke up
and we looked for the van
in the morning
behind our hotel
and it was gone.
The whole thing,
you know,
$70,000 worth of gear,
gone.
They jacked
the whole thing.
The whole thing.
Yeah,
they ran off with the whole
thing with the van hitched up to the
trailer. Fucking
ruthless as fuck. What about the
chains that attach to the
van to the trailer? No, they hotwired
the van.
Dude, that's some straight mafia
shit, dude. Yeah, exactly.
Like Vince was saying, there's an ongoing
investigation a week and a half. A week and a half ago, dude. Yeah, exactly. Well, and there's an ongoing, like Vince was saying, there's an ongoing investigation.
How long ago did this happen?
A week and a half.
A week and a half ago, man.
Oh, dude,
I need to give you a hug, dude.
Oh, my God, dude.
I'm so sorry, man.
This is a fresh ass wound.
Super fresh, yeah.
How long have you had that strat
that was in there?
20 years.
I was 15.
Oh, dude, let me hold your hand, dude.
I'm sorry. I want to hold your hand, too, just because I want to. 20 years. I was 15. Oh, dude, let me hold your hand, dude. I'm sorry.
I want to hold your hand, too, just because of one thing.
Yes, you guys are sweet. Oh, my God.
So, continue this. So, what did the cops do?
They didn't give a fuck? Like, how do you... Well, we had a couple of them that were, like,
nice and seemed eager to help and things
like that, but it went cold pretty quick.
So, the next day... It's only been a week.
How... Cold? Well, maybe it's not
cold. It feels cold to us.
But the next day, Brian, who we call Buff,
what he was talking about earlier,
was calling around to the pawn shops and the guitar centers.
And as he was talking to one of the local guitar centers,
the guy was like,
what kind of stuff did you say you guys had?
He's like, get down here right now.
We're like, okay.
So apparently at that exact time, there were people pawning some of our gear at the guitar center.
So we went down there and we had
a detective on the case. We were calling 911,
calling everybody we could to try to get down there to arrest
these guys.
They brought our 335
and our violin and my acoustic.
Your Gibson 3? Oh yeah, exactly.
And the violin? Yeah.
So we got those three things back.
And they arrested that guy.
They arrested the guy.
But they didn't like,
they didn't put the screws to him.
They didn't get any information.
So it's like,
the fool took your van.
Exactly.
They didn't have the van though.
He just had that little bit of gear
and they're like,
oh, I didn't know it was stolen.
Like I got it from this guy
and that guy might know somebody
and the other guys are like,
I didn't know anything about it.
So they let a couple of guys go
and like, we're thinking like,
okay, we got our shit.
We're going to get this thing back.
All your amps.
Yeah.
Everything.
All your luggage was in the hotel.
Dude, it's my drum set, man.
My drum set.
Oh, my God.
Your fucking drum set.
And then what's funny is actually the things that hurt the most are like, you know, we're all talking about everything.
And then all of a sudden, I'm like, my basketball.
My basketball was in the
van. I had about
a new Spalding, damn it.
Oh, man. Dude, so did you
raise any money? Did your fans like...
A great
fan who's actually a
morning show guy on KNBR,
the local sports station in San Francisco.
Oh, nice. He's a super big
fan and great friend, and he started a
GoFundMe, which has
got, I think there's over 23,000
people have donated, which is insane.
23,000? So cool.
So that's a big chunk. And Sammy Hagar
actually, like, at first we
thought it was a joke. We got the red rocker, man.
Yeah, like $2,500
from Sammy Hagar, and we thought, well, that's a joke, but that's really sweet.
Then it's Sammy Hagar at Gmail.
Yeah.
Then he emailed us and through our manager and was like, hey, just want you to want Sammy
wanted you to know that it was actually him.
And, you know, he feels for you guys.
And he loves the band.
It's like, Sammy Hagar donated.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he's like, come to our studio.
Come to my studio tomorrow
if you want.
We're like,
well, we're in,
you know,
Virginia or whatever
at the time.
But super great people,
sweet people helping us out.
And then everybody's
been helping us.
Like, we bought some things
on the road,
you know,
like a new...
We bought a Nord
and a Rhodes.
But everywhere,
we're like,
do you guys have drum sets?
Do you have a... This has been, for a week, you've do you guys have drum sets do you have a
do you have a
this has been
for a week
you've been dealing with
finding drum sets
all day
getting logistics together
for shows
and
had to cancel a few
thank god for management
Ampeg
sponsors our band
Mesa Boogie
Mesa
get fucking
Stone Foxes
taken care of
that'd be nice
get them some amps
please
we love their gear
Pearl's helping me out,
which is great. Pearl's been good to us.
Man, you hear this all
the time.
The troubles of this
being an independent act.
You guys are the king of the do-it-yourself
model.
And I've researched
you guys about this and you guys are smart as fuck
about it. What is it like to be on your own?
Like, when you don't have a record label,
I mean, you have a manager, he'll pat you on the back,
but he ain't going to give you fucking 60K.
Like, you're on a major.
What are the tactics?
Like, you don't want to ask your fans for money
until you absolutely have to.
So that's why this thing, when you're shit getting jacked,
is so important.
Talk about how independent bands what what it takes to market yourselves yeah what it takes to
just you you're basically doing everything i think for a long time it's just for us it's just been
about um licenses and shows have really allowed us yeah... Yeah, you guys got some big licenses.
I saw that, dude.
Congrats.
Yeah, thank you very much.
The new Bud ads playing all during the finals,
which was really fun.
Tell people what a license is
if you don't know what it is.
Oh, when you get your song on a commercial.
So, like, we've been on Jack Daniels' ad.
Yeah, I saw that.
We're on a Budweiser ad right now.
And we've...
BMW, some cool shows. Dude, you're fucking're on a Budweiser ad right now. And we've BMW some cool shows.
Dude, you're fucking killing it.
Yeah.
So that's good.
And that's allowed us to do a lot of records and also shows.
So the license money self-financed all your tours.
A lot of that.
Yeah.
A lot of it goes into it.
Yeah.
So what about now?
So when the wells dry, how do you keep going?
How long was your tour after Dallas to make it? about now when so the wells dry so when the wells dry yeah like how do you keep going like how long
was your tour after dallas to to make it oh it's only been a week and a half or so no how long do
you have left oh this is it we're actually driving to chicago then we go play for north face is
having us play like a campout thing for them i mean a lot of it has been that we have a great
team like we're on paradigm which is a great agency
we have our great management uh michael morris oh cool he's sweet dude great dude um and been with
us forever in our management to joe barham so we have the whole team and i think it's also been that
we're kind of we're a little more modern than the old school blues rock labels. Yeah.
But we're also a little old school for some of the super indie stuff.
So we've kind of been paving our own way for the duration of our band.
And it's... So we just play what we want to play.
So you don't want to be pigeonholed into the blues scene,
but you also don't want to be pigeonholed in the indie scene.
So how do you make a fine line in your marketing to say,
hey, we're blues, but we're also hip and we're also indie.
What are your marketing tactics for that?
Yeah, it's tough to walk.
I do think, though, that we have a good barometer.
Everybody in the band is kind of aware of it.
And also musically, we all love all the old school stuff,
but we know when it's like, that's too far i think it's
it's safe to say that it's rock and roll yeah with what we do because rock and roll has always been
a genre of a lot of elements you know so i mean it doesn't have to be just blues to be rock and
roll doesn't have to be psychedelic to be rock and roll it can be a conglomeration of a lot of
that stuff so i think that's what we we do it's a rock and roll band. Isn't it so fucked up that we have to
fucking put ourselves in a group?
Totally, man.
I don't get this whole theme thing.
Everyone's making up their whole genre.
It's just fucking music.
If you like it, why do you care if it has more blues differences?
And it means even more now than it ever did
with all the algorithmic stuff.
I think that's a journalist thing.
Yeah.
Journalists are fucking out of their minds sometimes.
It's really, I think, just about being yourself.
Exactly.
If you're playing the stuff that you feel good about and you feel like, yeah, that's
me, then you're going to be in a good place.
And I think what can be challenging but also really awesome is Vince and I being,
you know,
co-lead singers really finding
a voice together
and,
you know,
merging those two things.
How long have you been
writing songs together?
Five years.
So five years.
So what's,
do you guys have a certain way
of how you guys approach it
or is like,
okay,
I got this lick.
I think this would be better
for your vocals.
A lot of that stuff.
Yeah,
different things,
you know. I'll come in with like a song vocals. A lot of that stuff. Yeah, different things, you know.
I'll come in with a song that's kind of constructed sometimes or Shannon will do the same.
Or we'll just get together one day and say,
so what do you got?
And they're like, oh, I have this little nugget of an idea
and I got a little lyric or two.
So we try to throw stuff together.
It's a lot of woodshedding.
You know, like we work a lot of ideas
and whittle it down to one or two most of the time.
One of my favorite experiences doing that, though.
So we just put out this new single called City on the Water.
Nice.
It's about, you know, we love San Francisco and all major cities are going through it.
But, you know, artists can barely live there.
Oh, my God.
I saw that documentary, San Francisco 2. where all the tech the tech companies are moving in
yeah
and the artists
are like
tax breaks for the companies
and artists
you know
they're getting shoved out
and that's what
built that city
exactly
I don't fucking understand
that at all
like okay
you guys live in there
like do you feel
the vibe is
the artist vibe
is dying in San Francisco
proper
I mean
I don't want to say dying.
Yeah.
But it's changing a lot.
What's it changing to?
Just a tech city?
I think so.
Kind of like Austin's starting to do?
Well, Austin still has a lot of music.
Nashville's doing it too.
Nashville.
What, it's just gentrification?
Yeah, exactly.
Basically, yeah.
Yeah, and I mean...
It's tough to say
because we came up in a scene
like, you know,
almost a decade ago
where we both first started.
And there was a lot of bands, a lot of musicians, a lot of songwriters, and, you know almost a decade ago where we both first started and there was there was a lot of bands a lot of musicians a lot of songwriters and you know a lot
of rock and roll folk a lot of that kind of stuff and just over the years it's kind of just like
whittled its way down a lot of those people just left for la or different parts of the country
and now it's like i don't even really know what kind of genre is popping up there it's like
rock and roll is still there but it's a little different
what kind of genre is popping up there it's like rock and roll is still there but it's a little different it is halftime at the end fresco interview hour welcome back to review with
ari finling today i am reviewing madonna's tour rider if you don't know a rider basically a list
of demands that any artist wants backstage at their concerts.
And if you don't know who Madonna is,
she was popular in the 80s with hits like
Material Girl and Like a Virgin,
and now she looks like the fucking Crypt Keeper.
So the first thing on her demands is that
room for a 200 person entourage.
I don't know if she's traveling with the entire NFC East, but I don't even know 200 people,
let alone want to travel with 200 people.
Last week, I tried to get through the airport with six people, and I almost cut my fucking
head off.
She also wants 20 international phone lines backstage at her concerts because apparently when she does concerts, she also runs a Bangladeshi call center.
She likes to have her backstage room look exactly like her own home, which means she ships her own furniture to every concert she plays. Now listen, I love my couch, okay?
It's from Crate & Barrel.
It's very comfortable.
It's gray.
It's stain resistant.
I'm not shipping it to fucking Omaha, okay, Madonna?
Last on her list,
she wants her own dry cleaning service
because apparently her fucking sequined unitards
can't be ironed near anybody else's
clothes. That's
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Fuck Madonna
and fuck Westbrook.
Fuck Westbrook.
Is gentrification
killing our art scene in America?
Oh, sure.
Because these towns like San Francisco, Chicago, LA, Brooklyn.
You just have to be more persistent than you ever were.
It's breaking up the scene, for sure.
I think that the artists aren't fading.
It's just they're not all in the same place anymore.
But the internet aren't fading. It's just they're not all in the same place anymore. Right.
But the internet is… The one pro thing about the internet is you could say that we can all get a community going through that platform,
which is, I think, tough for a lot of artists to finally fess up to.
But at some certain point, you got to get hip to it.
You can't be lonely with your thoughts, especially as an artist.
You start…
You pull the Bourdain, which is horrible, dude.
Suppressing your feelings.
Yeah, what made it so cool to do this song together.
So we wrote that together.
We actually merged.
He had music and he had verse lyrics and some other stuff.
And I had this chorus and pre-choruses.
And we put them together and turned in this song.
stuff and i had this chorus and pre-courses and we put them together and turned in this song but what made it extra special is we got um uh the oakland school the arts choir these younger kids
to come in and sing the choruses with us and do this big thing and it was so cool to get some
younger like uh just see what 17 and 18 year olds are listening to and doing. So what are they listening to?
I'm old as fuck now, guys.
Is it mostly DJs and stuff?
Electric drummers?
And like, are they listening to blues music now?
I know a couple of kids who play some rock and roll.
Like Greta Van Fleet.
They're kind of like doing the Zeppelin thing,
but they're selling tickets still.
Oh, dude, there's eight million people on the planet
there will always be an audience for what i think pop radio still gets a lot of the youth as far as
what they're listening to but um i don't know there's always the kids that are searching i know
i just i just uh interviewed chicano batman those guys are badass they opened for jack white and
nice yeah it said that was it changed their whole career and you know guys are like that are
still tastemakers in the scene yeah that help people out like us yeah sure but yeah yeah we
could talk about that all day let's talk about let's talk about marketing let's talk about how
you market a record in 2018 or how you market a band with going through all the fat yeah you know
like there's so many bands out there you know guys are working your ass off. How do you
get to the point with your social media where people understand what you're doing? Because
you're fighting with all these major labels for time, for licensing. What do you guys
do with your social media or to help build your band
we just try to we try to take you know images of ourselves and and images of fans too like
like yesterday uh some fans brought us like a whole boatload of brownies like tasty brownies
and they're not you know there's no weed in them but they're tasty as. And they're not, you know, there's no wheat in them, but they're tasty as hell.
And they're necessary after a good show.
And, you know, so we took a picture of Brian with this, you know, enormous platter of brownies.
And I think just the human side of everything connects.
And I think that's what we try to do.
But we also, I think the key is just pumping out great music.
And, you know, just playing the best you just Pumping out great music Yeah And you know Just playing
The best you can
Yeah
And putting out
I think that's what it boils down to
At the end of the day
We're musicians
Yeah
We're not marketing gurus
But isn't it fucked up
That we have to do all that stuff
Like
It's
It's the game dude
I struggle with it for sure
I think Shannon's a little better at it
Than I am but
The game's the game dude
Man you guys are lucky
You guys get brownies
And
You didn't get brownies?
No, they give us drugs.
They give us cocaine
and fucking mushrooms
and weed.
They're trying to kill us.
They give you brownies.
Aren't you guys like we do?
Oh, boy, it's so sweet.
Here's some brownies.
Take some ketamine right now.
Oh, my gosh.
You run with it.
Oh, no, my fans...
It's like the Sam Kinison joke.
Yeah, it's crazy, dude.
When you went to parties,
they're like,
oh, you're Sam Kinison.
You must want to do a real fucking as long as...
Well, when you're doing...
Oh, yeah, dude.
That fool is fucking wild.
All right, let's talk about the music.
So you guys are inspired heavily...
Not heavily,
but you got a lot of blues influences.
You got a lot of 70s influences.
What about new bands
that are getting you influenced?
I listen to some Childish Gambino.
Oh, fuck.
I listen to a lot of newer kind of soul,
which I think the melodies help.
They've helped me a lot with just finding new ways
to sing over things.
I mean, we're huge Wilco uh jim james fans
tweed yeah all that stuff yeah i mean a couple of bands playing this fest we're super stoked on
drugs this is one of my favorites going right now i've always loved the felice brothers oh those
guys are badass i've been watching those guys for a long time and i'm super stoked to see you
daniel nathaniel rightiel for sure. I just caught
Sturgill Simpson last night.
That was the best concert.
Oh my God.
Four piece band.
No lights.
No lights.
Dude,
he just had one bright light.
Yeah.
And that is it.
And they fucking,
that changed my whole perspective
how the game should be.
That's what Adele does, dude.
Yeah, that's true.
She's just there
with her damn piano
and makes us all look stupid.
And we're crying
at the end of it.
Why I'm such a man.
I don't even know
why I'm crying.
Sometimes I'm
feeling like you.
Oh, man.
So,
you've had all these,
I mean,
it's 10 years.
You know,
10 years on tour?
On the road?
How many dates
did you do a year?
Well, on the road,
I would say about
six or seven.
Okay, but still six or seven years straight doing 200 plus did you do a year? Well, on the road, I would say about six or seven. Okay, but still
six or seven years straight
doing 200 plus probably
to make a living.
Sometimes, yeah.
Or 150, whatever.
The grind.
Yeah.
Going through a situation
like getting your whole
fucking van
and trailer jacks
to maybe having
a shitty show
in butt fuck Kansas
or like all the grind.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the tribulations and the beatdowns.
I don't know if you guys have chicks or something
yelling in your ear to come home or whatever.
Vince is married.
How is it?
No, it's not even about the chicks,
but it's about the grind.
Well, yeah.
Girlfriend, the grind.
It's just the grind, man.
Well, you have someone else telling you
you have a 50-50 life.
You're trying to split that life with your brothers,
your music.
Sure, yeah.
And then build another life outside of your brothers which is totally cool
it's like how do you keep going you know the deal yeah totally but like for our listeners
that fight what what are you fighting for when you're on stage and you feel like that is
your home and that's the only place at least for me when i'm up there i feel like that is your home and that's the only place,
at least for me,
when I'm up there,
I feel like that's where I can totally be myself.
I can be totally unleashed.
And you learn ways to control yourself
and still feel unhinged, right?
But that feeling is worth all the shit.
And the van, Yeah. Right? Yeah. But that feeling is worth all the shit. And like...
Yeah.
And the van, that ordeal will be over in two months.
Yeah, totally.
Like, that is passing, you know?
I think we're fighting for music, you know?
With a capital M.
It's a holy thing, I think.
Fuck, yeah.
It's a religion, man.
I think that any musician, like, maybe they don't even know it,
but it's just such an important part of the human experience.
Just, I don't know. I feel music on's just such an important part of the human experience.
I don't know.
I feel music on that universal level.
I think we all do.
And I think that that's worth fighting for.
Just keeping that experience alive, that collaboration with the audience alive.
I think the dream is to build the community.
Every time we go out, our thing is about, we want to create a musical experience that takes you on a journey.
You know, we used to just slam, slam, slam,
hitting hard.
Vince and Ben and Brian coming into the band
have helped us kind of create a journey
through the set.
And I think, you know,
we're not going to go out there and say,
oh, we're bad boys,
or we're getting in fights and shit.
We have to be ourselves.
And who we are is, I think, we are communicators of love and community and who we are right now.
And we sing about some social justice things.
We sing about what our lives are like right now in the 21st century.
And I think it's about breaking that wall between us and the audience.
And every night it's like, let's wipe that shit away
and let's create one room and one experience
and do that everywhere.
And just build it.
You like wipe Bob Marley up in this bitch.
That's tight.
Dudes.
Okay, two questions.
Then I'll let you guys Go back to We're very busy
I know
Yeah
Dudes like
What do you
You know
It's that anxiety
Like I don't know
If you guys get this
But like
The anxiety before a show
Of just wanting to play
I hate the fucking
Downtime
Yeah
On the road
You know like
You have to like build
That's why I made a podcast
That's all part of the art of it man
You know it's like
Yeah exactly
That anxiousness That I don't know the art of it, man. Yeah, exactly.
That anxiousness.
I don't know how to explain it, but it's like this… I'm shaking.
That's why we're doing it.
To get out those feelings that we suppress.
That's right.
Sure.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
All right, dudes.
A couple more.
Primal scream.
I do jumping jacks.
He does stretches.
Oh, you guys work out?
Yeah, a little bit.
Yeah. We get into our spiritual practices, whatever that might be for each of us. Like, I do jumping jacks. He does stretches. Oh, you guys work out? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, I mean,
we get into our spiritual practices or whatever that might be
for each of us, but...
Yeah.
He does a lot of yoga.
You guys do transcendental meditation
and do that stuff?
Oh, shit.
I don't know what that is.
I meditate, yeah.
That's good.
Dad, I mean,
I watch Wild Wild Country.
Oh, shit.
I saw that.
Oh, my God.
Osho is my guy.
I didn't know he was such a sex freak but that fool was fucking
dude that's right but his his his scriptures are so about existentialism how to do things that make
you feel good yeah what you're what you think the outcome is gonna be. So with that being said, how hard is it to write music
for yourself and not write music
for your fans?
Or to get into the
scene you want to get into?
Do you guys
try to take all that bullshit out
of it and just focus
on what you want to play every day?
For writing or for playing?
Both. I think for writing, we always try to not put up any barriers
because we can always not use the song.
You know what I mean?
Or we can always record it and not put it on an album.
So I think that you probably know this experience too.
We don't want to say, well, we have to write it within this structure
because then it gets a little boring.
You want to push those boundaries as a writer.
I don't think we ever limit ourselves on songwriting. then you're like, that gets a little boring, you know? Yeah. And you can't, you want to push those boundaries as a writer. So,
I don't think we ever limit ourselves
on songwriting,
but our sets,
we have to do a lot of crafting.
Well,
because there's a lot
of moving parts with us
because I drum
and I start up front
and then I drum
and then I'm up front.
Two lead singers.
Yeah.
How do you,
how do you make the flow
of the set list
where you both are feeling
like self-fulfilled
it's tricky
it's a daily dialogue
yeah
but
but
I love this man
and I think he loves me too
yeah you guys love each other
I love this man too
well you know
like that
he's the white Bob Marley
for crying out loud
oh my god
well
well
and my own
yeah
the white Bob Marley
only smoked once
and it was with Snoop.
And then...
Yeah?
Oh, yeah.
You smoked...
I got the open for Snoop Dogg.
We got to hear that shit.
I got to hear...
Tell me.
All right.
Tell the story.
Snoop is the man.
He's the godfather.
So Snoop...
So we're playing...
We're like...
Hold on.
First, you went to San Francisco
and you didn't smoke any pot?
So I have a heart condition.
I have a lot of beers though,
which is probably not so great.
Yeah.
The whiskey.
Well, continue with the excuse.
The D-O-double-G.
So my brother and I,
so we like to get,
like you said,
we get our emotion out on stage.
My brother and I
got our aggression out on stage, right?
Like that's where we get kick-ass.
And then off,
I'm kind of a cuddly teddy bear
likes ice cream.
But we were warming up for this uh acoustic thing we were doing outside of the roxy in l.a we were playing
and from up top in the window we heard quit practicing play me a song and and everybody
turned up and looked and they obviously knew who it was and I kind of couldn't quite make it out. And I said, sir, are you Snoop Dogg?
And he said, yeah, I'm fucking Snoop.
Play me the song, man.
And so I'm like, it's kind of mellow.
You cool with that?
And he's like, I'm fucking Snoop.
I'm mellow.
Sing me the song.
And so we're playing it.
And afterwards, he does the thing that pretty much every hip-hop artist I've ever met says.
Like, oh, we got to get in the studio. You got to be on this. And we're like, yeah, I wonder. Yeah, is that going to happen? you know he does the thing that pretty much every hip-hop artist i've ever met says like oh we gotta
get in the studio you gotta be on this and we're like yeah i wonder like yeah that won't happen but
okay that's very nice of you yes and he's like well we gotta we gotta let's i'm gonna come down
smoke you guys out and my brother and i we never smoked before and so like uh he comes down uh and
uh his manager says no you're on in like a minute.
You can't smoke with these guys.
So he hands us down his blunt.
And so that was the first time I ever smoked.
Oh my God.
That's amazing.
Yeah, I got it.
We opened for Snoop Dogg last year.
You did?
Yeah.
Oh man.
It was sick.
It was us, Snoop Dogg.
Did you get to talk to him?
Yeah, dude.
It was the coolest thing.
He's like, I'm like, hey, Mr. Dogg.
Yeah, Mr. Dogg.
I'm so white, dude.
I was really nervous. I'm from LA and that's like i'm like hey mr mr dog i was like i'm so white dude like i was really nervous i'm
from la and that's like yeah yeah so mike we had our managers like hey the band wants to uh see if
you can take a picture he's like yeah bring him over so we have nine guys in the band yeah they
pull up the sprinter van also nine white guys like yeah! How many motherfuckers in this band?
Making no money!
Yeah, oh, that's so good.
That's hilarious.
I'm like, Mr. Dog,
thank you so much for telling me that I'm broke as shit right now.
Yeah, thank you.
Appreciate that.
But he's like, you guys need some weed?
He flicked his head.
He flicked it.
They gave us a half pound of weed.
He's got a weed woman.
Weed woman?
Just right near him. Okay, so like, Snoop Dogg's camp. Like, everybody, you know, gave us a half pound of weed. He's got a weed woman. A weed woman.
Okay, so like Snoop Dogg's camp.
Like everybody, you know, because if you get the press
by Snoop about your weed,
so there's so many growers always coming
trying to get backstage to give Snoop weed
to try to have him market the weed.
So by the
end of the night, they have
so much weed given to them that they
just giving it out to everyone.
That's wild. That's for sure.
Dude, it was the coolest.
It was, I mean, like, I'm a
hip-hop head. I love Pac.
I love Biggie.
To have,
you know, them feel
like an uncle.
Oh, my God, uncle.
You white boy alright.
We gotta get Brian
With this man
The buffalo
You and the buffalo
Are gonna be
Dude I got
I got
Oh the buffalo
The guy
He had beautiful hair
Mine's more like
Raggedy Brillo pad
He had like nice curls
Well he'll help you
With your hair maintenance
I need product from him
Product
I use
Fruities Garnier
A little
Fancy Plug it Except for vince has like
the most beautiful get him a sponsor these guys need a van with your hair yeah really man
it's just green it's like a fluorescent green a neon green van all right dude one last question
if you could host a festival and you could pick all the bands dead or alive.
Oh, Jesus.
You could do all of them.
Anyway.
And then you do a super jam.
If you fucking want, get two drummers up there, whatever.
Yeah.
Explain the lineup.
Anybody.
You get three and I get three.
Yeah, but you get four.
Yeah, three.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's good.
You go first. I mean, you got to put Jimmy on there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm a big… I love The Doors.
Yeah.
I love The Doors.
Oh.
And then Fela Kuti.
Yeah.
Oh, like a day set? Like 3pm?
All night, man.
Oh, he's the late night man.
Yeah, totally.
Yeah, like three hours set.
Fela Kuti at the end for sure.
That's actually interesting.
Okay.
Everyone tells me he's metal as fuck.
I got to start listening to him.
Oh, Fela?
Yeah.
I heard his live show is just a fucking party.
Oh, man.
He's unbelievable.
Yeah.
I can see in your eyes you love this guy.
The music and the power of it and just his message.
It's great stuff. What do you got?
Man. Okay.
Partially because I
haven't actually seen an entire
My Morning Jacket set
and I think that Jim James is
probably the most current amazing
He's like the best performer
of all time. Get your ass in here, Buffalo.
Oh, the Buffalo is here.
He wants to hook you up with some weed brian yeah let's do it hey baby your hair is beautiful
beautiful curls we're breaking we're picking our our top bands that we would ever put in a festival
nwa half morning jacket need a hip-hop along with a gimme Kendrick right now.
Oh Kendrick.
Yeah.
So Brian, the Buffalo, your picks.
I want Radiohead.
I want Tame Impala.
I want Kayflay.
You're already at three.
This guy's modern.
How many?
No, keep going.
No, I like this guy's brain right now.
It's like a week long thing.
I thought.
Oh yeah. No, this is 11 straight days.
I want Sunday Day Real Estate.
Oh, damn.
Yeah.
I want brand new trash.
Ooh.
That a boy.
And...
Who's your bluegrass band?
I'm Blackalicious, too.
Oh, Blackalicious is dope.
Oh, yeah.
The bluegrass band.
Bluegrass.
Who do we want?
You like bluegrass?
Oh, well, don't we want our boys brothers comatose
sure i want the guys if we're going americana i want those fleece brothers there oh that's
and they're playing after us today oh nice awesome have you guys ever played mountain jam no no yeah
this is a cool vibe woodstock is cool you guys are you you know that you have the history here
it's sure we've heard of it on hell yeah Helm. You know, his grave. You should go check out.
Oh, we didn't put the band on our list.
Oh, fuck.
The band's on the list.
You gotta put the band on the list.
Okay.
But Levon's grave is right here.
Is it?
Seriously?
You guys gotta check that out.
We will definitely go.
You gotta go.
Oh, my God.
Levon is a legend.
They're huge for us.
So I was singing drummer.
That's like, Levon's my man.
Oh, my God.
Forever.
All right, Buffalo.
I got a question for you.
What you got?
What is the craziest thing
that's ever happened
on the road?
Is it if it's like
getting dosed by someone
or if you're like
a groupie
calling your girlfriend
telling her crazy shit.
Tell me what's going on.
No, there's none of that.
There's a few things.
Last year,
I decided,
my body decided
I wanted to pass out
and hit the floor.
During a show? No, day off. Decided I wanted to pass out and hit the floor. During a show?
No.
Day off.
Decided I wanted to knock out all my teeth and have Shana walk into the bathroom with my face full of blood.
He passed out in a hotel and face planted on like a tile floor.
I thought he was dead, dude.
No, no, no.
Explain the pre this.
I was so scared.
What happened?
I don't know, man.
Were you just dehydrated?
I think I smoked too much weed.
Plus, we've been on the road for two months.
No, it wasn't the weed thing.
I smoked weed since I was goddamn fat.
Were you taking a piss?
And like you just passed out taking a piss?
No, I felt real shitty.
I said, Vince, I don't feel good, man.
I've heard that before.
And I dimed toward the bathroom.
And the next thing I know, I didn't even make it through the door and passed out.
Or they were waking me up in a pool of blood on the tile.
How long were you passed out? That's fucking scary. It was scary to kaboom, so I don't even make it through the door and passed out. Or they were waking me up in a pool of blood on the tile. How long were you passed out?
That's fucking scary.
It was scary, man.
It was a kaboom, so I don't know.
You were out.
I think he was out for like maybe two minutes, but he was pale.
I mean, I lost my…
Were you guys taking drugs the night before?
Like what was going on?
No, no, no.
Just, yeah, had a cigarette.
We got up to Denver.
Oh, okay.
Could have had elevation involved elevation no yeah that's what
it is dehydration we had to fly him home and then we did the rest of the songs it was rough stuff
they did the rest of the tour as a four piece and killed it from what i heard i heard
they don't even need me anymore so i'm just going to hang out today that's actually why you're here
actually uh you're right i'm max the mediator you're fired, actually. I'm Max the Mediator. You're fired.
There's a new Afro.
We brought a consultant in to let you go.
Oh, my God.
Stone Foxes, it's been a pleasure.
Thank you so much for taking your time.
Do you guys have a new record?
Oh, new single out?
New single.
Yeah, and City on the Water featuring the Oakland School of the Arts.
And we're really proud of that one and our last ep
uh uh called visalia from from a place where we record out on our buddy cody tarbell's farm
out on his house um so there it started there and then we finished in oakland and we've got
a bunch of stuff for a new record but lots of shows coming up. Oh, yeah, dudes. And also, if you guys have some extra dough to spare,
give these guys some money.
The Kickstarter make,
let's help these guys out.
They're working their ass off.
This sucks.
You can't,
you don't know what kind of situations you get in on the road until they
actually happen.
And I'm proud you guys are here and didn't let that fucking,
it's just money dudes.
And the dream is bigger than money.
Thank you for having us, man. You're awesome.
You got to sit in.
Are you the fiddle player?
Yeah.
Who's the fiddle player?
Ben's the fiddle player,
but he can sit in and he'll...
You guys want to sit in with us tonight?
Fuck yeah, bro.
Dude.
You want some harp and fiddle?
Yeah.
Who's harping?
I play harp.
He plays fiddle.
Two o'clock.
We play at two o'clock
and then...
Shit.
Okay.
Get those vocal cords ready, baby.
What key is it in?
We'll figure it out when we get there.
It better be in the right key.
That's basically my whole set in one key.
Beautiful, man. That would be blessed.
Awesome.
Stone Foxes, thanks for coming on the show.
Thank you, man.
Kill it tonight, boys.
Appreciate it, man.
Thank you, brother.
Hey, yo, this is Chad Cacuzza.
And this is his brother, Matt Cacuzza of the Spoonfed Tribe.
And this is You Remember That One Cacuzza, of the Spoon-Fed Tribe. And this is...
You Remember That One Time?
With Matty and Chatty.
Chatty, do you remember that one fucking time we rolled up to Wacarusa?
Are you talking about that time when we were sitting there waiting for our credentials
and that girl came up with that hippie dress on and took a shit right next to the van?
Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about.
I couldn't believe it either, man.
I'm sitting there in disgust.
She was a cute little thing, too.
She was, and I don't think she had any toilet paper either
because she fucking used her hand to wipe her ass.
I couldn't believe it.
Matt, we're sitting there.
I couldn't.
You're looking.
I'm looking.
I'm like, are we really seeing this thing here?
This chick is dropping two deuces right in the grass right next to our van.
Matt, I'll tell you, I skipped dinner that night.
I could have got out and stepped in it.
I think somebody did get out and step in it, man.
That's nasty.
This is, you remember that one time?
With Matty and Chatty.
And there you have it.
Beautiful.
Just fucking beautiful.
This is a good one.
Always, always learn a lot
from all these.
It's,
yeah.
I'm sorry,
I was thinking about
a middle school story.
What's your middle school story
before we tap out of this?
I was,
can I tell two?
Because they happen
in the same classroom
at different times.
Well,
you better make it quick.
Okay.
You have a fucking,
this is,
we're not having
12 minute story time
with Yeti
at the end of the segment.
Joel Niederklein ran up by me and stole my hat,
ran into the cafeteria doors at Lake Hazel Middle School.
I chased him.
The floors were rubber.
Give me my hat, I said.
And he wouldn't.
And so I went after him, and we were going to fight.
And I thought I was a karate guy, so I tried to kick him.
He grabbed my foot, stuck it up in the air
fell down
hit my head on the ground
knocked myself out.
Next day
I don't want to go
How old were you?
I was in 8th grade.
Yeah so you're tall too.
Yeah 13.
Damn
Next day
You're lanky tall
you got your ass kicked.
I wasn't lanky
I was a chunky kid so
So you couldn't fight.
I've never been skinny.
I was skinny when I was like
in 3rd grade maybe.
Damn that's fucked up.
So anyway
so yeah.
And then I want to go to class the next day.
And he's like in the class.
And I'm super nervous about it.
And the vice principal goes in and has him come out.
And he's like, hey, so I understand there was an incident yesterday.
Is everything cool between you guys?
Yeah, and we shake hands and we go into class.
And then they made fun of me more damn because i was a pussy that's a beautiful story and then in that same classroom emily gaithway and i shared a soda and i wrote my diary it was like kissing
her oh my god because she didn't let her spit off that's so romantic that's actually pretty romantic
i remember that i could walk to that classroom.
I'm walking to it in my head. I know exactly where it is in that building.
I love going back. I can still remember the smell of my high school.
Oh, totally. Especially like the parts that you were there all the time.
Sometimes I get in… I go to a venue or something or a field play.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And it has that smell. I'm like, whoa.
It smells like my high school. It smells like my high school.
It smells like a high school.
Yeah.
My first girl
in a bathroom.
That's it, guys.
Thanks so much for coming,
listening,
supporting the show.
That's it.
What else can we say?
Yeah.
We talked about the church.
We're going to lose
a lot of Christian fans
after this episode.
I don't think we had
any Christian fans. I got some Christian don't think we had any Christian fans.
I got some Christian fans.
I play in Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas.
There's people that believe.
Hey, and listen.
I don't hate you for hating that.
I'm just saying, don't tell me I have to believe it too.
And I think if we all just go through life like that,
working on ourselves instead of trying to work on other people,
we'd be in a much better spot.
Yeti for president.
I have a guy that legit wants me
to be his running mate for 2020.
I'm not even kidding.
Let's get this podcast blasting
before you do anything like that.
Oh, I'm not running for president.
Fuck that.
Maybe, you never know.
We might do it.
Okay.
Okay, bye.
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Be safe.
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Produced by Andy Fresco, Yeti, and Chris Lawrence.
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