Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 15: The Stone Foxes

Episode Date: July 24, 2018

In our mission to save the world, we open with a PSA to learn you the importance of protecting yourself from STD's (Sexually Transmitted Demons). We hear some crazy stories from Yeti's past and learn ...why he's never seen a single Harry Potter movie. Also! San Francisco rock band, The Stone Foxes, are up on the interview hour and talk genre labeling, music licensing, and how gentrification is stifling the music scene of the bay area. The Cocuzza Bros reminisce about that one time... This is Episode 15. To keep up with the podcast, follow us on Instagram @WorldSavingPodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, tour dates, the band and the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com The views discussed on this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of the guests. Keep up to speed with our guest, The Stone Foxes, by visiting: www.thestonefoxes.com Thanks to our sponsor, Receptra. Visit them at receptranaturals.com Produced by Andy Frasco Yeti Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Ahri Findling Shawn Eckels Matt & Chad Cocuzza Arno Bakker

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Andy, it's Schwartz. Listen, you're what, 30? This is insane for me to even have to tell you or remind you, but please, you need to protect yourself from STDs and getting women pregnant. It's not a joke. STDs are real. Pregnancy happens. Please. And I'm not even, I STDs are real. Pregnancy happens. Please.
Starting point is 00:00:26 And I'm not even, I'm just baffled. Like, this is something I would tell our 16-year-old. And now, your Planned Parenthood moment of the week. You can pick up that. All I was asking you to do was pick up those three parts. All I'm asking you to do is pick up those three parts. Gosh, stop. You don't get to watch TV.
Starting point is 00:01:03 All I asked you to do is pick up those three little pieces. I can be a big jerk. Yes, I can. Stick your cock up her ass, you motherfucking worthless... I told you to stop. Because what you just did, I don't think you get to watch TV. It burns! Yeah, and you yell at me for telling you to shut up? Please, don't. I didn't even tell you to shut up and you yelled at me.
Starting point is 00:01:36 And we're here. Another one. Another one. And another one. How we doing, people? is andy frasco we are listening to the world saving podcast with a motherfucking yeah yeah how we doing baby good i was just thinking about how every time i go to trivia in a bar yeah i win something oh my you cocky motherfucker i know i know shit about it just pick a subject i'll tell you something about it
Starting point is 00:02:04 no what about Like trivia? Anything. No, explain this. You always win something. I used to read trivial pursuit cards in the bathroom when I was taking a shit in like middle school and high school. What? That's what I did.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Oh, I can't stay in the bathroom longer than I have in my business. I know. You're quick. I don't like that. I don't like to be hanging out in my filth. You and Meg are very similar that's why you and I are in love
Starting point is 00:02:29 yeah thanks Yeti before things get any weirder weirder so what do you win? trivia so you guys do trivia at bars? yeah Geeks Who Drink
Starting point is 00:02:40 that's a nationally syndicated thing I thought you were talking about like oh fucking I play that arcade game where I throw a ball and I win something. Ski ball? Ski ball. That's one of my favorites.
Starting point is 00:02:51 I love arcade bars. There's one in Boise called the Space Bar. Okay, so you're just a trivia guy. Trivia, yeah. I show up to trivia night and I win something. My team does well. Yeah? Let's see what kind of trivia you know.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I'm going to Google. You're going to pull up some trivia? This kind of trivia you know. I'm going to Google. You're going to pull up some trivia? This is going to be good. I'm going to do trivia questions. Are you sure you're on the internet? Oh, damn you are. I am. Yeah, I'm prepared.
Starting point is 00:03:12 You're perpetually on the internet. We parked in a parking lot in our van right now because the band is sleeping because they drove overnight. They drove us so we could rest and do stuff. Yeah, so we slept. And now it's 10 in the morning. We don't want to bother them so we're in our van
Starting point is 00:03:28 in a parking lot outside a hotel doing podcasts looking like crazy people. But the windows are tinted as like limo black. Okay. What story?
Starting point is 00:03:39 I mean, what theme do you want? Do pop culture. Pop culture. Okay. Oh, here we go. 15 pop culture trivia questions people always get. Always get? Wrong?
Starting point is 00:03:57 Hold on. Always get wrong. Perfect. Okay. All right. I think you're a pop culture pro. Do you know anything about Harry Potter? No, I don't know anything about Harry Potter because I didn't watch any of them I think you're a pop culture pro. Do you know anything about Harry Potter? No, I don't know anything about Harry Potter because I didn't watch any of them.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Because you're 50. No, because I was a Christian and I thought it was witchcraft. Really? Legit. Yeah, it's stupid. I don't even want to talk about that right now. This is fun. No, I want to talk about that.
Starting point is 00:04:18 No, fuck this game. What? The church manipulated you? Oh, God. It was horrible. I was in college when Harry Potter hit, right? At the Christian University there, I played basketball.
Starting point is 00:04:29 What? Stupid. Fucking stupid. It came out, and there was this huge movement in evangelical Christianity that was like, that Harry Potter was witchcraft repackaged.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Because Harry Potter is magic. You know, is, you know. But it is. It's spells and all that stuff. But, I mean, you have to remember these, the only way religion works is if it makes people afraid of it. That's the only way religion works. Alright. Tell me.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I don't agree with this. I'm just going to say that. But I, yeah, so. Witchcraft. Tell me I don't agree with this I'm just gonna say that But I Yeah So Witchcraft Tell me what they manipulated you Thinking that fucking Harry Potter A fictional story
Starting point is 00:05:15 That someone made Was about witchcraft That's crazy You're right I agree That is crazy So the Harry Potter thing was Oh that's a part of the occult
Starting point is 00:05:25 the which is the the formerly known as all of the you know i mean think of like the church of satan is thrown into the occult but there's things like the branch davidians and david koresh and the fundamentalists lds church those are occults too and as a christian growing up in mormon i think it's a cult christians don't think they're in Mormon Idaho. Do people think it's a cult? Christians don't think they're in a cult, but they are. They're fucking in a cult. They absolutely are.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Like look up the definition. The government has defining rules for what's a cult. And you look that up. What are the rules? What are the rules? Look it up. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I don't know. I turned off my phone. Okay. I'll find it. What are the basis of it? Follow a single person. Jesus. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Makes claims to be God. Yeah. Okay, and Christians will say, Jesus never claimed to be God. And I'm like, yeah, but you're making him God. So Jesus was cool. Like that person that lived around 2000 years ago. That was a real person.
Starting point is 00:06:24 He really existed. Was he the son of God? Absolutely fucking not. Doesn't exist. That was a real person. He really existed. Was he the son of God? Absolutely fucking not. Doesn't exist. That's a fairy tale. You know what? There's another fairy tale that's really popular right now about somebody being the son of God and coming to save the world. You know what it is? You know what that character's name is? Thor. I'm not
Starting point is 00:06:38 kidding. Tell him, Yelly. I'll get on a soapbox here because it pisses me off. I'm tired of people brainwashing people in the name of fear and control. Like that is bullshit. Like let somebody figure it out on their own. Let them know this is how I look at the world.
Starting point is 00:06:54 There's nothing wrong with a Christian worldview. I'm not opposed to that. I'm not opposed to you thinking that God created the heavens and the earth. I'm not opposed to you thinking that the only way for you to get to the next life is to believe in Jesus Christ, that he's your savior and the tenants that are Christianity. I'm not opposed to you doing that, but don't fucking tell me I have to too.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Rock and roll Yeti. Because I did that. I told people that they had to live the way I had lived and I was wrong. Yeah. How, what was that epiphany like when you found out like, oh shit. I was in Africa. I'm getting brainwashed. Yeah. I was in Africa,
Starting point is 00:07:33 2004. I was in Uganda, Africa on this church mission thing. That was like a long thing, six, six weeks, which, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:40 it's a pretty long time to be in Africa. And we were in Uganda and I was riding with this guy that I had known my entire life. And I'd looked up to him. He was a missionary. And there was all these stories about missionaries that were living their life for God
Starting point is 00:07:52 and been killed by cannibalistic tribesmen and all this bullshit. There was propaganda spread by the church. There may have been people that were killed by cannibals, but it's because they were walking into an area they shouldn't have been in. It's not because these people hated Christians. Like, duh, they're encountering them for the first time. Okay. I digress.
Starting point is 00:08:10 We're driving in Southern Uganda to a trading post called Mbarara. And this dude says, I asked him about this thing called entire sanctification, which is a belief within the belief structure that I was in. And he's like, yeah, I don't sin anymore. The dude tells me this. And the New Testament says, he who says he is without sin is a liar and should be cast out.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And so like, it clicks in my brain and I'm like, holy cow, this thing is all bull. And now I would say, holy fuck, this is bullshit. And I was in a van, like one of those micro buses. And this dude tells me this and I'm like, I tuned out everything else he had to say. And I was just like, you're a fucking liar.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Like I knew that people, I knew. And at that point, I wasn't where I am now where I think sin and doing good are actual things. I think there's good things to do and bad things to do. But I don't believe that anything I do will damn me to hell. So I don't think sin is the right word. But it's just a signpost. I digress again.
Starting point is 00:09:18 That is insane. So what happened when you came back to America? When I came back to America when I came back to America it was tough like I actually when I came back to the US I met the woman that I would eventually marry and I was on that journey through that like trying to figure
Starting point is 00:09:36 out who I was and even when I married her I was still on it and then a few years later I was like fuck it I'm done with this it took me five or six years to get to a point where I was completely done with that and part of that was me going and working for a church and not as a pastor but as a an operations uh person but i mean you had to have moral there was moral ethics there was moral guidelines and all this um it was one of the worst experiences of my life they preach about being awake
Starting point is 00:10:06 and like being enlightened, they say. Yeah. But it's- Being Christ. Yeah. Christ is another word for enlightenment. But they're not really awake. No, they're not.
Starting point is 00:10:16 And that's what's so stupid is that there's these parables that are quoted, attributed to Jesus. And yes, I go back to it. Jesus was a real person. There's first century historians that vouch for his existence and the things he said. They've been taken out of context and totally used to just beat people into submission throughout the centuries that it's been said. But he said things like parables that talked about light and consciousness, that if you look at it through that light, that's exactly what he's talking about. But we get caught up that, you know, all that gets caught up in what's he really talking
Starting point is 00:10:47 about? It's just stupid. Yeah. Sorry. You're just like, uh-huh. No, I'm just stoned and trying to understand this because I was never a religious guy. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I was always, you know, I was Jewish, but I was like, I just had my bar mitzvah. I didn't really study. We went to the high holidays and shit. I fucking went to the you know ain't think of felt a fish on fucking whatever
Starting point is 00:11:09 you know and fasted for a day or cheat I actually cheated I always used to sneak a cookie have something up in the bedroom yeah but
Starting point is 00:11:16 yeah I think that's what helped me with my ideas of reading different ideas like Taltic wisdom I read a lot of i read a lot about like you know existential buddhism like oh show i love oh show until i found out he was a fucking sex
Starting point is 00:11:34 freak and now i love him even more it was crazy dude oh you were telling me about wild wild countries such a wild dog i mean like i don't think it was him. It was like the same thing as people overanalyzing Christ and his message. Right. It was the same thing the people that were in the commune were overanalyzing Osho's message. Osho was just talking about freedom. Same thing was, you know, I mean, I've kind of understood the Bible, not like verse by verse, but I think it's the concept of just being free and enlightenment, right? It's being free.
Starting point is 00:12:07 It is. The Bible, the way the Bible says it, it said, in Christ you are free. Through Christ you have freedom. I would challenge anybody who has a belief structure that is based around that, the Judeo-Christian, Jesus Christ,
Starting point is 00:12:24 Godhead thing, substitute Christ for consciousness and you'll start seeing things that you've never thought you could ever see. Like suddenly things make sense. And then also get rid of all the rules that say you can't do this or can't do that. Like, yeah, don't kill people, don't steal, don't lie.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Those are good things. But like, you know, be good to people to people like it's just it's not hard so i used to go to church i went to church more than i went to did you go to youth group with friends or something like that i went to church on sundays with my buddy oh okay because i just wanted to hang out it was i i don't i wasn't paying attention i was trying to flirt with girls yeah yeah and um i was young flirting with girls. I was like that hooking up with them. You were a wolf among the sheep. Dude, legit.
Starting point is 00:13:08 It was just fun. Wednesday, church, whatever day. Yeah, yeah. Youth group night. Wednesday night. I did it every day. A band played and shit. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? I was just playing basketball with the Christians and shit with my little afro, like totally Jewish. Who's that black kid? Yeah, exactly I was like Giving me some
Starting point is 00:13:27 I'm ADD as fuck I always needed to do something So you were the kid That Were you like Well known in your high school? I was kind of Popular so to speak?
Starting point is 00:13:35 I mean I knew everybody I wasn't like I wanted to be popular It's not like you were An all-star athlete But I mean you were a swimmer But I was around everywhere I was around everywhere
Starting point is 00:13:43 Your social butterfly Yeah I was student everywhere. I was around everywhere. You were a social butterfly. Yeah. I was student council. I ran fundraisers for the school. I did concerts where I'd raise $30,000. All you had to say was student council. I know exactly who you were. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I wasn't student council. I did student council for one year because you get out at noon every day. Oh, you would? I'd start swim. Swim was at 5 a.m and i'd just go to class till noon so i could work i work at a capital and drive through records oh you did so i was going straight to hollywood for the valley gotcha yeah so basically like i didn't do anything but i got out and i had to organize events basically was peace out i'm i'm booking the key club tonight i
Starting point is 00:14:23 gotta fucking i got email on a wednesday, I got to get there before soundcheck. That's what you were doing. I was 16, now 17. Hustling bar mitzvahs. Hustling, yeah, DJing bar mitzvahs. That was dope. I almost got my ass kicked at one bar mitzvah.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Was this in the, what? Yeah, this guy punked me. I was hooking up with this girl, Meredith, and I don't know, something went down. I just maybeoking up with this girl, Meredith, and I don't know. Something went down. I just maybe just discommunicated with her or something. She was from a private school. You stopped talking to her? Yeah, I was trying to flirt
Starting point is 00:14:53 with her friend or something. I didn't know. I didn't understand that. That's probably a bad idea to flirt with the best friend. It doesn't work out. She booked me for this gig and then had this guy come up to me Doesn't work out. Yeah. Then she got, so she booked me for this, for this gig. And then had this guy come up to me, big ass dude.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Like, you fucking with Meredith? And it was like, I was DJing her party. You fucking with Meredith? Like, you need to go up to her. She grabbed me by my fucking face.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Grabbed you by your face. Or my, my, my hair. Yeah. Apologize or me by your face. Or my hair. Yeah. Apologize or get on your knees. I'm like, I was so embarrassed. He did this in front of everybody?
Starting point is 00:15:31 Yeah, in front of everyone. It was fucked up. And I was like, I wanted to cry because that was a really embarrassing moment. I was in seventh grade. It's heartbreaking. Eighth grade. That's horrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:43 And I got embarrassed embarrassed i didn't have a car so i then i was stuck at the party until my dad picked me up and i then i had to get all my dj gear so you took it all down and just left and just sat outside i got paid though yeah i got paid i got paid before the show right yeah i'll still get paid for this yeah always get paid for the show get paid before you work. Just in case. So at least I wasn't 500 bucks down. Yeah. She was a rich girl, so.
Starting point is 00:16:09 You're like, I still got your money. I got your money. Yeah. I apologized and you still paid me. Yeah, it was fucked up. I apologized.
Starting point is 00:16:15 I didn't want to get my ass kicked. I had no friends out there. I went by myself. I'm in like no man's land and fucking kids are fucking mean. Dude, people are mean.
Starting point is 00:16:26 It sucks. That's why I don't want to be mean to people. It's fucked up. That's why I feel so bad. I don't know. I'm just really sensitive. And that shit. I mean, my mom is super sensitive.
Starting point is 00:16:38 I grew up with women. So I knew how to try to treat women right. That was my main thing. I wanted to treat women right you know that was my main thing i wanted to treat women you know they always put that you treat them with respect you know i was like you know i don't care don't be an asshole you know my sister eight year older than me it's kind of right in my head and then i was trying to be the best person i can i still got fucking yeah i had to fucking I was embarrassed as fuck. It sucked.
Starting point is 00:17:08 What can you do? You got to get up, get your gear, and move on to the next thing. It's your harrowing middle school story that you'll share on the Moth someday. Or just on the World's Hating Podcast. I haven't thought about that in a long time. Yeah, I can tell. That hurt my feelings.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I can see the pain, man. I feel you. I'm empathetic towards that, a long time. Yeah, I can tell. That hurt my feelings. I could see the pain, man. I feel you. I'm empathetic towards that, man. Yeah. It's okay. Embarrassing middle school stories. Yeah. Let's listen to this interview.
Starting point is 00:17:35 All right, cool. While I cry in the corner. And I'll tell you my embarrassing middle school story after. Enjoy it. We got a very fun one for you this week. We have the Stone Foxes from San Francisco, California. These guys
Starting point is 00:17:51 just had to deal with some horror shit right now with someone stealing their whole fucking van and their trailer. They tell you the story. It's fucking nuts. These guys are great dudes. I met them at Mountain Jam. What can I say? They're awesome. Their music's great. They sat in with us. We did some jamming. They're just a cool blues band from Northern California. But the reason why they're on
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Starting point is 00:19:23 It's early as fuck, guys. It's earlier for you, I think. I know. When our manager said, oh, yeah, we're going to have this interview at 11 a.m., I'm like, fuck. Rise and shine, dude. Meet the day. Oh, man. So where were you guys yesterday? We were in Connecticut, Norfolk. How is Connecticut? It was good. There was surf and turf. Surf and turf, and I had some salmon. You had surf and turf and salmon? Well, I had the salmon.. There was surf and turf. Surf and turf.
Starting point is 00:19:45 And I had some salmon. You had surf and turf and salmon? Well, I had the salmon. I had the surf and turf. He had the salmon. They fed us well at this theater. Oh, so the hospitality is dope there. Exactly, yeah. We have a member in our band, Brian the Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:19:59 We call him Buff. And he, at every meal, decides who wins. So he goes around and he says, and he looks around and he always has buyer's regret, too. So, like, he looks around and he goes, oh, you won, dude. You won. Oh, that looks so good.
Starting point is 00:20:15 You won. And then he's really sad. I definitely lost. Yeah. Does he try to eat it? No. No. That's nice of him.
Starting point is 00:20:21 See, my aspect, oh, no, this looks better than my meal. I'd start eating that shit. You would go across the table with a fork and pursue? Yes, when you live with a band for 12 years in a van, anything is possible. Totally.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Oh, my goodness. Stone Foxes. We have a lot of things in common. First, you guys started in San Francisco State. I went to college for a whole semester in San Francisco State.
Starting point is 00:20:42 A whole semester. I was telling you. Mary Park gave me my first ever jock itch on the dick. And I've never been the same ever since. I thought I was an STD. I really did. I was like, fuck. I'm fucked.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I went to the doctor. My dick looks like Edward Scissorhands right now. Or Freddy Krueger. I'm like, god damn it. Oh, you made it all right. We made it all right we made it all right my dick's live and healthy it's breathing well i had a roommate named xander one of my roommates named xander who said that he was in a fight club that happened behind mary park yeah and he would
Starting point is 00:21:18 come back to the room and he would have bruises and he was like and we'd be playing mortal combat or something on on tv he's like you guys really want to fight i know he was like, and we'd be playing Mortal Kombat or something on TV. He's like, you guys really want to fight? I know a place to fight. And we were like, I don't think so, dude. In the trees and shit? Like right on the back of that? Yeah, behind near the trees.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Did you ever go with him? No, but he came in swinging a sock of quarters one time, like in the room. And we were like, dude, you have to keep that behind Mary Park, dude. You can't bring it into our nice Towers room, into our nice little luxury suite. This is what happens when you convince kids
Starting point is 00:21:51 that you could stay all year round for $800 a semester just to party. You know, you don't have any school debt. Totally. You're fucking partying. San Francisco State, I was worried because it was a commuter school. Yeah. And I was like, oh, there's not. I just wanted a dorm life so bad.
Starting point is 00:22:09 I don't know. You too? No. You don't get much of that. I wanted radio. You wanted radio? That's what I wanted. I wanted to be a broadcaster.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Oh, dude. They have a great radio program. That's all. Now it makes sense. I wanted to be the next Giants broadcaster. Really? Oh, so you're a sports guy? Oh, totally. Who's your teams? Well, I'm all about the Dubs and the Giants broadcaster. Really? Oh, so you're a sports guy? Oh, totally.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Who's your teams? Well, I'm all about the Dubs and the Giants. Oh, yeah. Congrats. But Vinny's from Chicago and Notre Dame. Oh, so you're a Bulls fan, Notre Dame. Yeah, nice. But I'm definitely kind of a Giants fan as far as baseball,
Starting point is 00:22:38 but I can't tell my Cubs friends that. Yeah, you can't tell them you're a Warriors fan either, I don't think. Yeah, Warriors, I teeter back and forth on. I like them. Yeah, all the Warriors tell me you're a Warriors fan either I don't think. Warriors I teeter back and forth on. I like them but. Yeah all the Warriors fans were Lakers fans in 2001. Sure.
Starting point is 00:22:49 From Southern California. Oh. Yeah it's like you see them jump ship. Now we're trying to get LeBron. Now everyone's like go Lakers.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Were you guys trying to get Kawhi or trying to get LeBron? You can't have it all. No it's a fucking dream. You guys are fucking this. I hate fucking
Starting point is 00:23:03 Lakers Twitter so much because it gets my hopes up. Every year, I get my fucking hopes up this time and no one shows up to the fucking Lakers, dude. Just be like us
Starting point is 00:23:11 and acquire everything. Yeah, you guys... Buy it all. Dude, that's a great story about that guy from Golden State. He bought Golden State for like super cheap and now it's like
Starting point is 00:23:20 a $2 billion company. Oh, it's crazy. Those guys are smart. It's crazy. All right, enough about basketball. Let's talk about the fucking band, dude. Yeah. Let guys are smart. That's crazy. All right. Enough about basketball. Let's talk about the fucking band, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Let's do it. Dudes, first off, I'm so sorry what happened about your van getting broken into. So are we, bro. Let's talk about that first. I know this is a fresh wound. I'm just like trying to stick my dick into a fresh wound. You're trying to make us cry is what you're trying to do. Talk to me.
Starting point is 00:23:42 What happened? Explain the situation. We're in Dallas, Texas. And I didn't think Dallas was a type of city that would jack everything. It's one person in Dallas. It's not about the city. We've heard some stories. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Chicago is pretty fucked up. After we kind of got this thing going, a lot of people were saying they've had similar stories or heard similar stories. And along that stretch of highway, it's happened like four or five times in the past month or two. So the next day, somebody said Liz Phair got jacked in Dallas. So it's like a thing. Oh, it's got to be
Starting point is 00:24:09 like a mafia association like how St. Louis has that too where they'll attack, they'll see a band festival is going on and they'll have 20 cars. We had a great time
Starting point is 00:24:19 with the show. I mean, our fans in Dallas are great. We love playing there, but it's just one of those things, man. So the day before, you know, or maybe it's the morning of those things, man. So the day before... The luck of the road, you know?
Starting point is 00:24:26 Well, tell me... Or maybe it's the morning of. Maybe the morning of is where to begin because I almost got a ticket for jaywalking in Flagstaff. I was in a park stretching and I was, you know, expanding my mind a little early in the morning. Not with any hallucinogenics,
Starting point is 00:24:44 but just by stretching. And then it was a busy know, expanding my mind a little early in the morning. Not with any hallucinogenics, but just by stretching. And then it was a busy street. But there's, you know, it's one of those crosswalks where you can't cross here. You'd have to go across the other street to cross. So I said, fuck it. There's a couple extra streets involved in this particular crossing for sure. Yeah, so I ran across a busy street. And I didn't know there would be a young cop who would pursue me.
Starting point is 00:25:04 But he was nice and let me off with a warning banged on banged on a motel door what yeah oh totally he was like sir sir sir uh did you know you were jaywalking i was like yeah yeah i'm sorry he's like well what band are you in and then he tried to be nice you know so what did you say i thought we're in a band uh i always go when next cops i'm like we're in a band. I always go with Winix Cops. I'm like, we're in a Christian rock band, dude. It's all good. Oh, no. Don't search the van, please.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I was like, I'm not used to crosswalks. I'm from San Francisco. I don't know anything about crosswalks. No, he was cool. You don't want to drop that. No. We ain't in San Francisco no more, boy. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:40 That's what you're going to get. But so it started there. Then when we got to the venue venue we felt like something was wrong with our trailer and the suspension had given out on our trailer like this piece was dangling on the ground and we heard it scraping on the on the street as we were riding up so we got and we're like damn it every tour something goes wrong yeah can't we just have one tour where nothing breaks in the van? Oh, I hate that. And we got that fixed, miraculously.
Starting point is 00:26:08 And so we thought, oh, yeah, we thought, oh, the bad thing already happened. Then we woke up and we looked for the van in the morning
Starting point is 00:26:16 behind our hotel and it was gone. The whole thing, you know, $70,000 worth of gear, gone. They jacked the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:26:24 The whole thing. Yeah, they ran off with the whole thing with the van hitched up to the trailer. Fucking ruthless as fuck. What about the chains that attach to the van to the trailer? No, they hotwired
Starting point is 00:26:36 the van. Dude, that's some straight mafia shit, dude. Yeah, exactly. Like Vince was saying, there's an ongoing investigation a week and a half. A week and a half ago, dude. Yeah, exactly. Well, and there's an ongoing, like Vince was saying, there's an ongoing investigation. How long ago did this happen? A week and a half. A week and a half ago, man.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Oh, dude, I need to give you a hug, dude. Oh, my God, dude. I'm so sorry, man. This is a fresh ass wound. Super fresh, yeah. How long have you had that strat that was in there?
Starting point is 00:27:01 20 years. I was 15. Oh, dude, let me hold your hand, dude. I'm sorry. I want to hold your hand, too, just because I want to. 20 years. I was 15. Oh, dude, let me hold your hand, dude. I'm sorry. I want to hold your hand, too, just because of one thing. Yes, you guys are sweet. Oh, my God. So, continue this. So, what did the cops do? They didn't give a fuck? Like, how do you... Well, we had a couple of them that were, like,
Starting point is 00:27:15 nice and seemed eager to help and things like that, but it went cold pretty quick. So, the next day... It's only been a week. How... Cold? Well, maybe it's not cold. It feels cold to us. But the next day, Brian, who we call Buff, what he was talking about earlier, was calling around to the pawn shops and the guitar centers.
Starting point is 00:27:34 And as he was talking to one of the local guitar centers, the guy was like, what kind of stuff did you say you guys had? He's like, get down here right now. We're like, okay. So apparently at that exact time, there were people pawning some of our gear at the guitar center. So we went down there and we had a detective on the case. We were calling 911,
Starting point is 00:27:50 calling everybody we could to try to get down there to arrest these guys. They brought our 335 and our violin and my acoustic. Your Gibson 3? Oh yeah, exactly. And the violin? Yeah. So we got those three things back. And they arrested that guy.
Starting point is 00:28:06 They arrested the guy. But they didn't like, they didn't put the screws to him. They didn't get any information. So it's like, the fool took your van. Exactly. They didn't have the van though.
Starting point is 00:28:14 He just had that little bit of gear and they're like, oh, I didn't know it was stolen. Like I got it from this guy and that guy might know somebody and the other guys are like, I didn't know anything about it. So they let a couple of guys go
Starting point is 00:28:22 and like, we're thinking like, okay, we got our shit. We're going to get this thing back. All your amps. Yeah. Everything. All your luggage was in the hotel. Dude, it's my drum set, man.
Starting point is 00:28:34 My drum set. Oh, my God. Your fucking drum set. And then what's funny is actually the things that hurt the most are like, you know, we're all talking about everything. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, my basketball. My basketball was in the van. I had about a new Spalding, damn it.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Oh, man. Dude, so did you raise any money? Did your fans like... A great fan who's actually a morning show guy on KNBR, the local sports station in San Francisco. Oh, nice. He's a super big fan and great friend, and he started a
Starting point is 00:29:07 GoFundMe, which has got, I think there's over 23,000 people have donated, which is insane. 23,000? So cool. So that's a big chunk. And Sammy Hagar actually, like, at first we thought it was a joke. We got the red rocker, man. Yeah, like $2,500
Starting point is 00:29:23 from Sammy Hagar, and we thought, well, that's a joke, but that's really sweet. Then it's Sammy Hagar at Gmail. Yeah. Then he emailed us and through our manager and was like, hey, just want you to want Sammy wanted you to know that it was actually him. And, you know, he feels for you guys. And he loves the band. It's like, Sammy Hagar donated.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Yeah. Yeah. And he's like, come to our studio. Come to my studio tomorrow if you want. We're like, well, we're in, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:49 Virginia or whatever at the time. But super great people, sweet people helping us out. And then everybody's been helping us. Like, we bought some things on the road,
Starting point is 00:29:58 you know, like a new... We bought a Nord and a Rhodes. But everywhere, we're like, do you guys have drum sets? Do you have a... This has been, for a week, you've do you guys have drum sets do you have a
Starting point is 00:30:05 do you have a this has been for a week you've been dealing with finding drum sets all day getting logistics together for shows
Starting point is 00:30:11 and had to cancel a few thank god for management Ampeg sponsors our band Mesa Boogie Mesa get fucking
Starting point is 00:30:19 Stone Foxes taken care of that'd be nice get them some amps please we love their gear Pearl's helping me out, which is great. Pearl's been good to us.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Man, you hear this all the time. The troubles of this being an independent act. You guys are the king of the do-it-yourself model. And I've researched you guys about this and you guys are smart as fuck
Starting point is 00:30:44 about it. What is it like to be on your own? Like, when you don't have a record label, I mean, you have a manager, he'll pat you on the back, but he ain't going to give you fucking 60K. Like, you're on a major. What are the tactics? Like, you don't want to ask your fans for money until you absolutely have to.
Starting point is 00:31:01 So that's why this thing, when you're shit getting jacked, is so important. Talk about how independent bands what what it takes to market yourselves yeah what it takes to just you you're basically doing everything i think for a long time it's just for us it's just been about um licenses and shows have really allowed us yeah... Yeah, you guys got some big licenses. I saw that, dude. Congrats. Yeah, thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:31:28 The new Bud ads playing all during the finals, which was really fun. Tell people what a license is if you don't know what it is. Oh, when you get your song on a commercial. So, like, we've been on Jack Daniels' ad. Yeah, I saw that. We're on a Budweiser ad right now.
Starting point is 00:31:43 And we've... BMW, some cool shows. Dude, you're fucking're on a Budweiser ad right now. And we've BMW some cool shows. Dude, you're fucking killing it. Yeah. So that's good. And that's allowed us to do a lot of records and also shows. So the license money self-financed all your tours. A lot of that.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Yeah. A lot of it goes into it. Yeah. So what about now? So when the wells dry, how do you keep going? How long was your tour after Dallas to make it? about now when so the wells dry so when the wells dry yeah like how do you keep going like how long was your tour after dallas to to make it oh it's only been a week and a half or so no how long do you have left oh this is it we're actually driving to chicago then we go play for north face is
Starting point is 00:32:16 having us play like a campout thing for them i mean a lot of it has been that we have a great team like we're on paradigm which is a great agency we have our great management uh michael morris oh cool he's sweet dude great dude um and been with us forever in our management to joe barham so we have the whole team and i think it's also been that we're kind of we're a little more modern than the old school blues rock labels. Yeah. But we're also a little old school for some of the super indie stuff. So we've kind of been paving our own way for the duration of our band. And it's... So we just play what we want to play.
Starting point is 00:32:57 So you don't want to be pigeonholed into the blues scene, but you also don't want to be pigeonholed in the indie scene. So how do you make a fine line in your marketing to say, hey, we're blues, but we're also hip and we're also indie. What are your marketing tactics for that? Yeah, it's tough to walk. I do think, though, that we have a good barometer. Everybody in the band is kind of aware of it.
Starting point is 00:33:18 And also musically, we all love all the old school stuff, but we know when it's like, that's too far i think it's it's safe to say that it's rock and roll yeah with what we do because rock and roll has always been a genre of a lot of elements you know so i mean it doesn't have to be just blues to be rock and roll doesn't have to be psychedelic to be rock and roll it can be a conglomeration of a lot of that stuff so i think that's what we we do it's a rock and roll band. Isn't it so fucked up that we have to fucking put ourselves in a group? Totally, man.
Starting point is 00:33:51 I don't get this whole theme thing. Everyone's making up their whole genre. It's just fucking music. If you like it, why do you care if it has more blues differences? And it means even more now than it ever did with all the algorithmic stuff. I think that's a journalist thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Journalists are fucking out of their minds sometimes. It's really, I think, just about being yourself. Exactly. If you're playing the stuff that you feel good about and you feel like, yeah, that's me, then you're going to be in a good place. And I think what can be challenging but also really awesome is Vince and I being, you know, co-lead singers really finding
Starting point is 00:34:28 a voice together and, you know, merging those two things. How long have you been writing songs together? Five years. So five years.
Starting point is 00:34:36 So what's, do you guys have a certain way of how you guys approach it or is like, okay, I got this lick. I think this would be better for your vocals.
Starting point is 00:34:43 A lot of that stuff. Yeah, different things, you know. I'll come in with like a song vocals. A lot of that stuff. Yeah, different things, you know. I'll come in with a song that's kind of constructed sometimes or Shannon will do the same. Or we'll just get together one day and say, so what do you got? And they're like, oh, I have this little nugget of an idea
Starting point is 00:34:54 and I got a little lyric or two. So we try to throw stuff together. It's a lot of woodshedding. You know, like we work a lot of ideas and whittle it down to one or two most of the time. One of my favorite experiences doing that, though. So we just put out this new single called City on the Water. Nice.
Starting point is 00:35:12 It's about, you know, we love San Francisco and all major cities are going through it. But, you know, artists can barely live there. Oh, my God. I saw that documentary, San Francisco 2. where all the tech the tech companies are moving in yeah and the artists are like tax breaks for the companies
Starting point is 00:35:29 and artists you know they're getting shoved out and that's what built that city exactly I don't fucking understand that at all
Starting point is 00:35:36 like okay you guys live in there like do you feel the vibe is the artist vibe is dying in San Francisco proper I mean
Starting point is 00:35:44 I don't want to say dying. Yeah. But it's changing a lot. What's it changing to? Just a tech city? I think so. Kind of like Austin's starting to do? Well, Austin still has a lot of music.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Nashville's doing it too. Nashville. What, it's just gentrification? Yeah, exactly. Basically, yeah. Yeah, and I mean... It's tough to say because we came up in a scene
Starting point is 00:36:01 like, you know, almost a decade ago where we both first started. And there was a lot of bands, a lot of musicians, a lot of songwriters, and, you know almost a decade ago where we both first started and there was there was a lot of bands a lot of musicians a lot of songwriters and you know a lot of rock and roll folk a lot of that kind of stuff and just over the years it's kind of just like whittled its way down a lot of those people just left for la or different parts of the country and now it's like i don't even really know what kind of genre is popping up there it's like rock and roll is still there but it's a little different
Starting point is 00:36:23 what kind of genre is popping up there it's like rock and roll is still there but it's a little different it is halftime at the end fresco interview hour welcome back to review with ari finling today i am reviewing madonna's tour rider if you don't know a rider basically a list of demands that any artist wants backstage at their concerts. And if you don't know who Madonna is, she was popular in the 80s with hits like Material Girl and Like a Virgin, and now she looks like the fucking Crypt Keeper. So the first thing on her demands is that
Starting point is 00:36:59 room for a 200 person entourage. I don't know if she's traveling with the entire NFC East, but I don't even know 200 people, let alone want to travel with 200 people. Last week, I tried to get through the airport with six people, and I almost cut my fucking head off. She also wants 20 international phone lines backstage at her concerts because apparently when she does concerts, she also runs a Bangladeshi call center. She likes to have her backstage room look exactly like her own home, which means she ships her own furniture to every concert she plays. Now listen, I love my couch, okay? It's from Crate & Barrel.
Starting point is 00:37:48 It's very comfortable. It's gray. It's stain resistant. I'm not shipping it to fucking Omaha, okay, Madonna? Last on her list, she wants her own dry cleaning service because apparently her fucking sequined unitards can't be ironed near anybody else's
Starting point is 00:38:06 clothes. That's it. That's Review This Week. Follow me on Twitter. Fuck Madonna and fuck Westbrook. Fuck Westbrook. Is gentrification killing our art scene in America?
Starting point is 00:38:28 Oh, sure. Because these towns like San Francisco, Chicago, LA, Brooklyn. You just have to be more persistent than you ever were. It's breaking up the scene, for sure. I think that the artists aren't fading. It's just they're not all in the same place anymore. But the internet aren't fading. It's just they're not all in the same place anymore. Right. But the internet is… The one pro thing about the internet is you could say that we can all get a community going through that platform,
Starting point is 00:38:53 which is, I think, tough for a lot of artists to finally fess up to. But at some certain point, you got to get hip to it. You can't be lonely with your thoughts, especially as an artist. You start… You pull the Bourdain, which is horrible, dude. Suppressing your feelings. Yeah, what made it so cool to do this song together. So we wrote that together.
Starting point is 00:39:15 We actually merged. He had music and he had verse lyrics and some other stuff. And I had this chorus and pre-choruses. And we put them together and turned in this song. stuff and i had this chorus and pre-courses and we put them together and turned in this song but what made it extra special is we got um uh the oakland school the arts choir these younger kids to come in and sing the choruses with us and do this big thing and it was so cool to get some younger like uh just see what 17 and 18 year olds are listening to and doing. So what are they listening to? I'm old as fuck now, guys.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Is it mostly DJs and stuff? Electric drummers? And like, are they listening to blues music now? I know a couple of kids who play some rock and roll. Like Greta Van Fleet. They're kind of like doing the Zeppelin thing, but they're selling tickets still. Oh, dude, there's eight million people on the planet
Starting point is 00:40:05 there will always be an audience for what i think pop radio still gets a lot of the youth as far as what they're listening to but um i don't know there's always the kids that are searching i know i just i just uh interviewed chicano batman those guys are badass they opened for jack white and nice yeah it said that was it changed their whole career and you know guys are like that are still tastemakers in the scene yeah that help people out like us yeah sure but yeah yeah we could talk about that all day let's talk about let's talk about marketing let's talk about how you market a record in 2018 or how you market a band with going through all the fat yeah you know like there's so many bands out there you know guys are working your ass off. How do you
Starting point is 00:40:46 get to the point with your social media where people understand what you're doing? Because you're fighting with all these major labels for time, for licensing. What do you guys do with your social media or to help build your band we just try to we try to take you know images of ourselves and and images of fans too like like yesterday uh some fans brought us like a whole boatload of brownies like tasty brownies and they're not you know there's no weed in them but they're tasty as. And they're not, you know, there's no wheat in them, but they're tasty as hell. And they're necessary after a good show. And, you know, so we took a picture of Brian with this, you know, enormous platter of brownies.
Starting point is 00:41:34 And I think just the human side of everything connects. And I think that's what we try to do. But we also, I think the key is just pumping out great music. And, you know, just playing the best you just Pumping out great music Yeah And you know Just playing The best you can Yeah And putting out I think that's what it boils down to
Starting point is 00:41:48 At the end of the day We're musicians Yeah We're not marketing gurus But isn't it fucked up That we have to do all that stuff Like It's
Starting point is 00:41:56 It's the game dude I struggle with it for sure I think Shannon's a little better at it Than I am but The game's the game dude Man you guys are lucky You guys get brownies And
Starting point is 00:42:04 You didn't get brownies? No, they give us drugs. They give us cocaine and fucking mushrooms and weed. They're trying to kill us. They give you brownies. Aren't you guys like we do?
Starting point is 00:42:12 Oh, boy, it's so sweet. Here's some brownies. Take some ketamine right now. Oh, my gosh. You run with it. Oh, no, my fans... It's like the Sam Kinison joke. Yeah, it's crazy, dude.
Starting point is 00:42:22 When you went to parties, they're like, oh, you're Sam Kinison. You must want to do a real fucking as long as... Well, when you're doing... Oh, yeah, dude. That fool is fucking wild. All right, let's talk about the music.
Starting point is 00:42:35 So you guys are inspired heavily... Not heavily, but you got a lot of blues influences. You got a lot of 70s influences. What about new bands that are getting you influenced? I listen to some Childish Gambino. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:42:51 I listen to a lot of newer kind of soul, which I think the melodies help. They've helped me a lot with just finding new ways to sing over things. I mean, we're huge Wilco uh jim james fans tweed yeah all that stuff yeah i mean a couple of bands playing this fest we're super stoked on drugs this is one of my favorites going right now i've always loved the felice brothers oh those guys are badass i've been watching those guys for a long time and i'm super stoked to see you
Starting point is 00:43:22 daniel nathaniel rightiel for sure. I just caught Sturgill Simpson last night. That was the best concert. Oh my God. Four piece band. No lights. No lights. Dude,
Starting point is 00:43:34 he just had one bright light. Yeah. And that is it. And they fucking, that changed my whole perspective how the game should be. That's what Adele does, dude. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:43:44 She's just there with her damn piano and makes us all look stupid. And we're crying at the end of it. Why I'm such a man. I don't even know why I'm crying.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Sometimes I'm feeling like you. Oh, man. So, you've had all these, I mean, it's 10 years. You know,
Starting point is 00:43:59 10 years on tour? On the road? How many dates did you do a year? Well, on the road, I would say about six or seven. Okay, but still six or seven years straight doing 200 plus did you do a year? Well, on the road, I would say about six or seven. Okay, but still
Starting point is 00:44:05 six or seven years straight doing 200 plus probably to make a living. Sometimes, yeah. Or 150, whatever. The grind. Yeah. Going through a situation
Starting point is 00:44:15 like getting your whole fucking van and trailer jacks to maybe having a shitty show in butt fuck Kansas or like all the grind. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:26 And the tribulations and the beatdowns. I don't know if you guys have chicks or something yelling in your ear to come home or whatever. Vince is married. How is it? No, it's not even about the chicks, but it's about the grind. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Girlfriend, the grind. It's just the grind, man. Well, you have someone else telling you you have a 50-50 life. You're trying to split that life with your brothers, your music. Sure, yeah. And then build another life outside of your brothers which is totally cool
Starting point is 00:44:49 it's like how do you keep going you know the deal yeah totally but like for our listeners that fight what what are you fighting for when you're on stage and you feel like that is your home and that's the only place at least for me when i'm up there i feel like that is your home and that's the only place, at least for me, when I'm up there, I feel like that's where I can totally be myself. I can be totally unleashed. And you learn ways to control yourself
Starting point is 00:45:17 and still feel unhinged, right? But that feeling is worth all the shit. And the van, Yeah. Right? Yeah. But that feeling is worth all the shit. And like... Yeah. And the van, that ordeal will be over in two months. Yeah, totally. Like, that is passing, you know? I think we're fighting for music, you know?
Starting point is 00:45:35 With a capital M. It's a holy thing, I think. Fuck, yeah. It's a religion, man. I think that any musician, like, maybe they don't even know it, but it's just such an important part of the human experience. Just, I don't know. I feel music on's just such an important part of the human experience. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:47 I feel music on that universal level. I think we all do. And I think that that's worth fighting for. Just keeping that experience alive, that collaboration with the audience alive. I think the dream is to build the community. Every time we go out, our thing is about, we want to create a musical experience that takes you on a journey. You know, we used to just slam, slam, slam, hitting hard.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Vince and Ben and Brian coming into the band have helped us kind of create a journey through the set. And I think, you know, we're not going to go out there and say, oh, we're bad boys, or we're getting in fights and shit. We have to be ourselves.
Starting point is 00:46:25 And who we are is, I think, we are communicators of love and community and who we are right now. And we sing about some social justice things. We sing about what our lives are like right now in the 21st century. And I think it's about breaking that wall between us and the audience. And every night it's like, let's wipe that shit away and let's create one room and one experience and do that everywhere. And just build it.
Starting point is 00:46:56 You like wipe Bob Marley up in this bitch. That's tight. Dudes. Okay, two questions. Then I'll let you guys Go back to We're very busy I know Yeah Dudes like
Starting point is 00:47:08 What do you You know It's that anxiety Like I don't know If you guys get this But like The anxiety before a show Of just wanting to play
Starting point is 00:47:16 I hate the fucking Downtime Yeah On the road You know like You have to like build That's why I made a podcast That's all part of the art of it man
Starting point is 00:47:23 You know it's like Yeah exactly That anxiousness That I don't know the art of it, man. Yeah, exactly. That anxiousness. I don't know how to explain it, but it's like this… I'm shaking. That's why we're doing it. To get out those feelings that we suppress. That's right.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Sure. Oh, my God. Yeah. All right, dudes. A couple more. Primal scream. I do jumping jacks. He does stretches.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Oh, you guys work out? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. We get into our spiritual practices, whatever that might be for each of us. Like, I do jumping jacks. He does stretches. Oh, you guys work out? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, I mean, we get into our spiritual practices or whatever that might be for each of us, but... Yeah. He does a lot of yoga. You guys do transcendental meditation
Starting point is 00:47:53 and do that stuff? Oh, shit. I don't know what that is. I meditate, yeah. That's good. Dad, I mean, I watch Wild Wild Country. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I saw that. Oh, my God. Osho is my guy. I didn't know he was such a sex freak but that fool was fucking dude that's right but his his his scriptures are so about existentialism how to do things that make you feel good yeah what you're what you think the outcome is gonna be. So with that being said, how hard is it to write music for yourself and not write music for your fans?
Starting point is 00:48:30 Or to get into the scene you want to get into? Do you guys try to take all that bullshit out of it and just focus on what you want to play every day? For writing or for playing? Both. I think for writing, we always try to not put up any barriers
Starting point is 00:48:48 because we can always not use the song. You know what I mean? Or we can always record it and not put it on an album. So I think that you probably know this experience too. We don't want to say, well, we have to write it within this structure because then it gets a little boring. You want to push those boundaries as a writer. I don't think we ever limit ourselves on songwriting. then you're like, that gets a little boring, you know? Yeah. And you can't, you want to push those boundaries as a writer. So,
Starting point is 00:49:06 I don't think we ever limit ourselves on songwriting, but our sets, we have to do a lot of crafting. Well, because there's a lot of moving parts with us because I drum
Starting point is 00:49:17 and I start up front and then I drum and then I'm up front. Two lead singers. Yeah. How do you, how do you make the flow of the set list
Starting point is 00:49:24 where you both are feeling like self-fulfilled it's tricky it's a daily dialogue yeah but but I love this man
Starting point is 00:49:32 and I think he loves me too yeah you guys love each other I love this man too well you know like that he's the white Bob Marley for crying out loud oh my god
Starting point is 00:49:39 well well and my own yeah the white Bob Marley only smoked once and it was with Snoop. And then...
Starting point is 00:49:47 Yeah? Oh, yeah. You smoked... I got the open for Snoop Dogg. We got to hear that shit. I got to hear... Tell me. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Tell the story. Snoop is the man. He's the godfather. So Snoop... So we're playing... We're like... Hold on. First, you went to San Francisco
Starting point is 00:49:59 and you didn't smoke any pot? So I have a heart condition. I have a lot of beers though, which is probably not so great. Yeah. The whiskey. Well, continue with the excuse. The D-O-double-G.
Starting point is 00:50:09 So my brother and I, so we like to get, like you said, we get our emotion out on stage. My brother and I got our aggression out on stage, right? Like that's where we get kick-ass. And then off,
Starting point is 00:50:21 I'm kind of a cuddly teddy bear likes ice cream. But we were warming up for this uh acoustic thing we were doing outside of the roxy in l.a we were playing and from up top in the window we heard quit practicing play me a song and and everybody turned up and looked and they obviously knew who it was and I kind of couldn't quite make it out. And I said, sir, are you Snoop Dogg? And he said, yeah, I'm fucking Snoop. Play me the song, man. And so I'm like, it's kind of mellow.
Starting point is 00:50:53 You cool with that? And he's like, I'm fucking Snoop. I'm mellow. Sing me the song. And so we're playing it. And afterwards, he does the thing that pretty much every hip-hop artist I've ever met says. Like, oh, we got to get in the studio. You got to be on this. And we're like, yeah, I wonder. Yeah, is that going to happen? you know he does the thing that pretty much every hip-hop artist i've ever met says like oh we gotta get in the studio you gotta be on this and we're like yeah i wonder like yeah that won't happen but
Starting point is 00:51:10 okay that's very nice of you yes and he's like well we gotta we gotta let's i'm gonna come down smoke you guys out and my brother and i we never smoked before and so like uh he comes down uh and uh his manager says no you're on in like a minute. You can't smoke with these guys. So he hands us down his blunt. And so that was the first time I ever smoked. Oh my God. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Yeah, I got it. We opened for Snoop Dogg last year. You did? Yeah. Oh man. It was sick. It was us, Snoop Dogg. Did you get to talk to him?
Starting point is 00:51:38 Yeah, dude. It was the coolest thing. He's like, I'm like, hey, Mr. Dogg. Yeah, Mr. Dogg. I'm so white, dude. I was really nervous. I'm from LA and that's like i'm like hey mr mr dog i was like i'm so white dude like i was really nervous i'm from la and that's like yeah yeah so mike we had our managers like hey the band wants to uh see if you can take a picture he's like yeah bring him over so we have nine guys in the band yeah they
Starting point is 00:51:58 pull up the sprinter van also nine white guys like yeah! How many motherfuckers in this band? Making no money! Yeah, oh, that's so good. That's hilarious. I'm like, Mr. Dog, thank you so much for telling me that I'm broke as shit right now. Yeah, thank you. Appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:52:15 But he's like, you guys need some weed? He flicked his head. He flicked it. They gave us a half pound of weed. He's got a weed woman. Weed woman? Just right near him. Okay, so like, Snoop Dogg's camp. Like, everybody, you know, gave us a half pound of weed. He's got a weed woman. A weed woman. Okay, so like Snoop Dogg's camp.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Like everybody, you know, because if you get the press by Snoop about your weed, so there's so many growers always coming trying to get backstage to give Snoop weed to try to have him market the weed. So by the end of the night, they have so much weed given to them that they
Starting point is 00:52:43 just giving it out to everyone. That's wild. That's for sure. Dude, it was the coolest. It was, I mean, like, I'm a hip-hop head. I love Pac. I love Biggie. To have, you know, them feel
Starting point is 00:52:58 like an uncle. Oh, my God, uncle. You white boy alright. We gotta get Brian With this man The buffalo You and the buffalo Are gonna be
Starting point is 00:53:09 Dude I got I got Oh the buffalo The guy He had beautiful hair Mine's more like Raggedy Brillo pad He had like nice curls
Starting point is 00:53:17 Well he'll help you With your hair maintenance I need product from him Product I use Fruities Garnier A little Fancy Plug it Except for vince has like
Starting point is 00:53:26 the most beautiful get him a sponsor these guys need a van with your hair yeah really man it's just green it's like a fluorescent green a neon green van all right dude one last question if you could host a festival and you could pick all the bands dead or alive. Oh, Jesus. You could do all of them. Anyway. And then you do a super jam. If you fucking want, get two drummers up there, whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Yeah. Explain the lineup. Anybody. You get three and I get three. Yeah, but you get four. Yeah, three. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good.
Starting point is 00:54:06 You go first. I mean, you got to put Jimmy on there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a big… I love The Doors. Yeah. I love The Doors.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Oh. And then Fela Kuti. Yeah. Oh, like a day set? Like 3pm? All night, man. Oh, he's the late night man. Yeah, totally. Yeah, like three hours set.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Fela Kuti at the end for sure. That's actually interesting. Okay. Everyone tells me he's metal as fuck. I got to start listening to him. Oh, Fela? Yeah. I heard his live show is just a fucking party.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Oh, man. He's unbelievable. Yeah. I can see in your eyes you love this guy. The music and the power of it and just his message. It's great stuff. What do you got? Man. Okay. Partially because I
Starting point is 00:54:52 haven't actually seen an entire My Morning Jacket set and I think that Jim James is probably the most current amazing He's like the best performer of all time. Get your ass in here, Buffalo. Oh, the Buffalo is here. He wants to hook you up with some weed brian yeah let's do it hey baby your hair is beautiful
Starting point is 00:55:12 beautiful curls we're breaking we're picking our our top bands that we would ever put in a festival nwa half morning jacket need a hip-hop along with a gimme Kendrick right now. Oh Kendrick. Yeah. So Brian, the Buffalo, your picks. I want Radiohead. I want Tame Impala. I want Kayflay.
Starting point is 00:55:34 You're already at three. This guy's modern. How many? No, keep going. No, I like this guy's brain right now. It's like a week long thing. I thought. Oh yeah. No, this is 11 straight days.
Starting point is 00:55:45 I want Sunday Day Real Estate. Oh, damn. Yeah. I want brand new trash. Ooh. That a boy. And... Who's your bluegrass band?
Starting point is 00:55:57 I'm Blackalicious, too. Oh, Blackalicious is dope. Oh, yeah. The bluegrass band. Bluegrass. Who do we want? You like bluegrass? Oh, well, don't we want our boys brothers comatose
Starting point is 00:56:06 sure i want the guys if we're going americana i want those fleece brothers there oh that's and they're playing after us today oh nice awesome have you guys ever played mountain jam no no yeah this is a cool vibe woodstock is cool you guys are you you know that you have the history here it's sure we've heard of it on hell yeah Helm. You know, his grave. You should go check out. Oh, we didn't put the band on our list. Oh, fuck. The band's on the list. You gotta put the band on the list.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Okay. But Levon's grave is right here. Is it? Seriously? You guys gotta check that out. We will definitely go. You gotta go. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Levon is a legend. They're huge for us. So I was singing drummer. That's like, Levon's my man. Oh, my God. Forever. All right, Buffalo. I got a question for you.
Starting point is 00:56:43 What you got? What is the craziest thing that's ever happened on the road? Is it if it's like getting dosed by someone or if you're like a groupie
Starting point is 00:56:51 calling your girlfriend telling her crazy shit. Tell me what's going on. No, there's none of that. There's a few things. Last year, I decided, my body decided
Starting point is 00:57:02 I wanted to pass out and hit the floor. During a show? No, day off. Decided I wanted to pass out and hit the floor. During a show? No. Day off. Decided I wanted to knock out all my teeth and have Shana walk into the bathroom with my face full of blood. He passed out in a hotel and face planted on like a tile floor. I thought he was dead, dude.
Starting point is 00:57:17 No, no, no. Explain the pre this. I was so scared. What happened? I don't know, man. Were you just dehydrated? I think I smoked too much weed. Plus, we've been on the road for two months.
Starting point is 00:57:26 No, it wasn't the weed thing. I smoked weed since I was goddamn fat. Were you taking a piss? And like you just passed out taking a piss? No, I felt real shitty. I said, Vince, I don't feel good, man. I've heard that before. And I dimed toward the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:57:38 And the next thing I know, I didn't even make it through the door and passed out. Or they were waking me up in a pool of blood on the tile. How long were you passed out? That's fucking scary. It was scary to kaboom, so I don't even make it through the door and passed out. Or they were waking me up in a pool of blood on the tile. How long were you passed out? That's fucking scary. It was scary, man. It was a kaboom, so I don't know. You were out. I think he was out for like maybe two minutes, but he was pale.
Starting point is 00:57:55 I mean, I lost my… Were you guys taking drugs the night before? Like what was going on? No, no, no. Just, yeah, had a cigarette. We got up to Denver. Oh, okay. Could have had elevation involved elevation no yeah that's what
Starting point is 00:58:07 it is dehydration we had to fly him home and then we did the rest of the songs it was rough stuff they did the rest of the tour as a four piece and killed it from what i heard i heard they don't even need me anymore so i'm just going to hang out today that's actually why you're here actually uh you're right i'm max the mediator you're fired, actually. I'm Max the Mediator. You're fired. There's a new Afro. We brought a consultant in to let you go. Oh, my God. Stone Foxes, it's been a pleasure.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Thank you so much for taking your time. Do you guys have a new record? Oh, new single out? New single. Yeah, and City on the Water featuring the Oakland School of the Arts. And we're really proud of that one and our last ep uh uh called visalia from from a place where we record out on our buddy cody tarbell's farm out on his house um so there it started there and then we finished in oakland and we've got
Starting point is 00:58:58 a bunch of stuff for a new record but lots of shows coming up. Oh, yeah, dudes. And also, if you guys have some extra dough to spare, give these guys some money. The Kickstarter make, let's help these guys out. They're working their ass off. This sucks. You can't, you don't know what kind of situations you get in on the road until they
Starting point is 00:59:17 actually happen. And I'm proud you guys are here and didn't let that fucking, it's just money dudes. And the dream is bigger than money. Thank you for having us, man. You're awesome. You got to sit in. Are you the fiddle player? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Who's the fiddle player? Ben's the fiddle player, but he can sit in and he'll... You guys want to sit in with us tonight? Fuck yeah, bro. Dude. You want some harp and fiddle? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Who's harping? I play harp. He plays fiddle. Two o'clock. We play at two o'clock and then... Shit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Get those vocal cords ready, baby. What key is it in? We'll figure it out when we get there. It better be in the right key. That's basically my whole set in one key. Beautiful, man. That would be blessed. Awesome. Stone Foxes, thanks for coming on the show.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Thank you, man. Kill it tonight, boys. Appreciate it, man. Thank you, brother. Hey, yo, this is Chad Cacuzza. And this is his brother, Matt Cacuzza of the Spoonfed Tribe. And this is You Remember That One Cacuzza, of the Spoon-Fed Tribe. And this is... You Remember That One Time?
Starting point is 01:00:07 With Matty and Chatty. Chatty, do you remember that one fucking time we rolled up to Wacarusa? Are you talking about that time when we were sitting there waiting for our credentials and that girl came up with that hippie dress on and took a shit right next to the van? Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about. I couldn't believe it either, man. I'm sitting there in disgust. She was a cute little thing, too.
Starting point is 01:00:29 She was, and I don't think she had any toilet paper either because she fucking used her hand to wipe her ass. I couldn't believe it. Matt, we're sitting there. I couldn't. You're looking. I'm looking. I'm like, are we really seeing this thing here?
Starting point is 01:00:40 This chick is dropping two deuces right in the grass right next to our van. Matt, I'll tell you, I skipped dinner that night. I could have got out and stepped in it. I think somebody did get out and step in it, man. That's nasty. This is, you remember that one time? With Matty and Chatty. And there you have it.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Beautiful. Just fucking beautiful. This is a good one. Always, always learn a lot from all these. It's, yeah. I'm sorry,
Starting point is 01:01:10 I was thinking about a middle school story. What's your middle school story before we tap out of this? I was, can I tell two? Because they happen in the same classroom
Starting point is 01:01:19 at different times. Well, you better make it quick. Okay. You have a fucking, this is, we're not having 12 minute story time
Starting point is 01:01:24 with Yeti at the end of the segment. Joel Niederklein ran up by me and stole my hat, ran into the cafeteria doors at Lake Hazel Middle School. I chased him. The floors were rubber. Give me my hat, I said. And he wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:01:39 And so I went after him, and we were going to fight. And I thought I was a karate guy, so I tried to kick him. He grabbed my foot, stuck it up in the air fell down hit my head on the ground knocked myself out. Next day I don't want to go
Starting point is 01:01:49 How old were you? I was in 8th grade. Yeah so you're tall too. Yeah 13. Damn Next day You're lanky tall you got your ass kicked.
Starting point is 01:01:57 I wasn't lanky I was a chunky kid so So you couldn't fight. I've never been skinny. I was skinny when I was like in 3rd grade maybe. Damn that's fucked up. So anyway
Starting point is 01:02:04 so yeah. And then I want to go to class the next day. And he's like in the class. And I'm super nervous about it. And the vice principal goes in and has him come out. And he's like, hey, so I understand there was an incident yesterday. Is everything cool between you guys? Yeah, and we shake hands and we go into class.
Starting point is 01:02:31 And then they made fun of me more damn because i was a pussy that's a beautiful story and then in that same classroom emily gaithway and i shared a soda and i wrote my diary it was like kissing her oh my god because she didn't let her spit off that's so romantic that's actually pretty romantic i remember that i could walk to that classroom. I'm walking to it in my head. I know exactly where it is in that building. I love going back. I can still remember the smell of my high school. Oh, totally. Especially like the parts that you were there all the time. Sometimes I get in… I go to a venue or something or a field play. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:02 And it has that smell. I'm like, whoa. It smells like my high school. It smells like my high school. It smells like a high school. Yeah. My first girl in a bathroom. That's it, guys. Thanks so much for coming,
Starting point is 01:03:14 listening, supporting the show. That's it. What else can we say? Yeah. We talked about the church. We're going to lose a lot of Christian fans
Starting point is 01:03:22 after this episode. I don't think we had any Christian fans. I got some Christian don't think we had any Christian fans. I got some Christian fans. I play in Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas. There's people that believe. Hey, and listen. I don't hate you for hating that.
Starting point is 01:03:33 I'm just saying, don't tell me I have to believe it too. And I think if we all just go through life like that, working on ourselves instead of trying to work on other people, we'd be in a much better spot. Yeti for president. I have a guy that legit wants me to be his running mate for 2020. I'm not even kidding.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Let's get this podcast blasting before you do anything like that. Oh, I'm not running for president. Fuck that. Maybe, you never know. We might do it. Okay. Okay, bye.
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