Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 158: Elizabeth Cook
Episode Date: February 8, 2022Every week come Tuesday morning, we tend to display a flagrant disregard for boundaries by judging one anothers' hotness. This time, Nick compares Andy's body to that of another keyboardist. But who's... face is hotter?! Leave us a review on Podcast App with your answer. Breath in the sweet smell of sound check as we welcome Elizabeth Cook to the Interview Hour! She's not only an incredible songwriter, but a helluva story teller too. Listen now and know her better! This is EP 158 and Happy m'ƒn birthday, Andy Frasco. We love you, buddy Get your voyeuristic rocks off now by watching (most of) this episode via youtube. Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out Andy's new song, "Spill The Beans" on iTunes, Spotify Elizabeth Cook crushes. Check out her new album: www.elizabeth-cook.com Produced by Andy Frasco Joe Angelhow Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Brian Schwartz Arno Bakker
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Hey, it's Schwartz. Big week ahead of us. Listen, we're announcing the album on Friday,
and it feels like you are not in the album game. You are elsewhere. You're busy talking to Nick
all the time and telling people about your masturbation habits and all this ridiculous
shit. You're calling Mara and asking her questions that are inappropriate.
You're doing a lot of stuff that doesn't necessarily help you with your album. So please,
it's go time. It's a big week. We announced the album. We put out a single. You have a show at the Fox. It's your birthday. Happy birthday. It's time to focus on this new music. I know you think you're a dancer
and you get paid
to be on Twitch, but I'm
sorry to report you are a musician.
Actually, I'm happy to report.
Sorry for you, I guess.
First and foremost, you're Andy Frasco,
the musician. You have a great band,
The UN. Those guys are in the game.
Please get in the game. It's go time.
Let's start making content to promote this album
and this new music.
I'm kind of over the dick jokes.
Talk to you soon.
Andy, Drew, Andrew,
it's Nick,
your podcast co-host.
I assume you're out doing something fun right now
that I wasn't invited to,
and that's why you didn't answer. Anyway,
I got some good news and some even better news.
The good news is people are loving the off-brand, off-color comedy of the podcast.
The better news is you don't have anything going on right now.
We can really focus on that, okay?
I want to make sure that you are a podcast host first.
Let's put that musician thing to the side, because that's not going anywhere.
All right, call me back if you have any good ideas
Bye
And we're back
People love the Fatboy Slim episode
People are fucking jacked up
Let's shout out to Fatboy coming to the house
And they love your bumble
Oh god I got a few messages about that Oh god how embarrassing You been on this week? Let's shout out to Fat Boy coming to the house. They love your bumble. Oh, God.
I got a few messages about that.
Oh, God.
How embarrassing.
You been on this week?
No, I deleted it.
Oh, you did?
Yeah.
I embarrassed you so bad you deleted it?
Yeah.
Nice.
Fuck you, Nick.
Fuck yeah.
That's probably good for you.
Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast.
I'm Andy Frasco.
This is Nick Gerlach.
How you doing?
How's our heads?
How's our minds? We getting out of this? Hearts you doing? How's our heads? How's our minds?
We're getting out of this. Hearts. Hearts. How's our hearts? Seriously, how's your heart doing?
That's for your mom. I want to make sure she wants you to say them all.
I feel really fulfilled. My heart is really fulfilled.
Really? Why? Because you went to New York and Tampa Bay?
Yeah, traveled.
He made a music video about him and then a bunch of people cheered for him in warm weather.
He's feeling good about himself, guys.
I do feel good. I think that's all you need.
You know, just a little recharge.
Yeah. Yeah. I've never
been off the road this long, man.
Oh.
So, I mean, it hasn't been that
long. It's been a month. Three weeks.
A month. You've been off the road for a month.
That's ridiculous. No.
Really? Yeah. Never. That's sad, kind of. Why? I don't know. Maybe it is month you've been off the road for a month that's ridiculous no really yeah never that's not that's
sad kind of why i don't know maybe i don't maybe it isn't it's all i know everything i've always
wanted when i was a kid i'm finally doing it and you know it's like i gotta stop sweating the small
you finally have your dream and it's not what you wanted yeah it's like the classic tale you know
you get there you're like maybe i should have had a wife and kids.
Dad, are you hiring?
Yeah.
Just go back to LA and sell real estate.
Oh man, what if I was a real estate?
You would murder it.
In real estate?
Yeah, because I feel like half of being a real estate agent is just like selling yourself.
There's a certain kind of person
that's a real estate agent online.
You know what I'm saying?
You'd be so good at like the content and like marketing yourself.
I think that's what helped me.
I've seen my dad market himself,
but he doesn't really,
he's not that dude who's like wearing like a different era suit and a big old
and a big old banner.
Like Bruce Frasco.
Well,
is he doing commercial real estate?
So a little different ball game.
That's more business to business.
So it's like,
you don't need to chill. Yeah like you don't need to be on Instagram
for that. You know what I mean?
Real estate,
residential real estate, some of those agents
are funny. They're funny.
Some of them are like
stand-up comedians. Yeah, they're very intense.
It's like, yeah, it's like Brenda
from REI.
Yeah, exactly. They all have the same
hair and it's like very aggressive personalities. They do got aggressive personality. Yeah, exactly. They all have the same hair and it's very
aggressive personalities.
They do got aggressive personalities.
You have to, I think.
You have to be kind of like a
shark to get a bunch of
people.
It doesn't take a lot to become a licensed real estate
agent.
There's a lot of them, so the competition
must be fierce.
I think there's a lot of people that So the competition must be fierce. Yeah.
I think there's a lot of people that do it and they just never really do it.
Yeah.
I have a lot of friends in LA who do it and just fucking kill.
Oh, I have a friend back in Indiana.
It's like he switched to that from music and he's just crushing it.
Yeah.
Murdering.
He's got the perfect guy for it.
And you think about, think about like houses, like when you have to buy something in LA
or New York.
3% of 2 million, you know?
Yeah. Fuck, we are in the wrong fucking
industry. Speaking of LA.
L-Lakers.
Oh, the Lakers are not that good. Cavs, yay!
Cavs are good. Cavaliers
fan, everyone. This is like totally, um,
you know. But you got the
Rams. It's so LA. This whole
I, this whole year of Lakers basketball is just what the,
the idea of what I don't like about LA.
What do you mean?
I don't understand.
Just like,
you know,
they could have got a guy like buddy healed who actually fit the team.
Why didn't they trade?
They got a fucking star Russell Westbrook.
And like,
because that's the homies and you know,
those are the boys
to LeBron and like it's
like it's such politics
LA is such fucking politics. That Kings trade
would have been great. I know no one
wants me to talk about the why is bitching
because it fucking fucks me up
Rams or the Super Bowl supposed to be happy dude
you have that like Cincinnati
do you have that same personality
default when
when you're with people
you like like people in your own
occupation
what do you mean
like
do you like just have this itch you just
have a feeling that you just don't like that
person yeah but don't you have that with every phase
of your life I get that at the fucking grocery store
like you know what I mean there's just people the fucking grocery store like yeah you know what i mean yeah there's just people you're like i don't like you
you know what i mean it happens with me there's tons of people don't like me right away really
oh i'm in very much an acquired taste for some people why do we it's kind of like judging a
book by his cover though no because i think i am just who i am like right away and i think that
kind of scares people i don't think i have a cover i think you're like on page 65 what about
like when you're judging others oh i'm not really judging it's just some people you. I don't think I have a cover. I think you're like on page 65. No, what about like when you're judging others?
Oh, I'm not really judging.
It's just some people, you know,
I don't think they're bad people
if I don't like them or anything.
It's just, you know,
and everyone can't be for everybody.
Right.
Right.
I know.
I don't, I don't have that word.
Oh, actually I do.
I think I do that too.
What do you mean?
Like, just like I'll judge someone.
I don't like the word judge because I don't think I'm better or worse than
those people.
I just,
I don't think of it as better or worse.
I'm just like judge critiquing.
Fine.
Critiquing.
Oh,
critiquing.
All right.
It's just a reaction to how the,
you know,
you can't help how you react to everybody.
But if we take that out of our vocabulary and just like,
I don't like the word judge.
I don't know why observe is better to me. Yeah. Like sometimes I'll be like, I don't like the word judge. I don't know why. Observe is better to me.
Sometimes I'll be like, I didn't like that
movie, but that doesn't mean I think it's a bad movie.
Just I didn't like it.
I don't know. There's a lot of
stand-up comedians, for example, where I'm like,
they are really good at stand-up and I'm
not laughing at all, but they're good at it.
That doesn't make them bad. I just
don't like it. But if we could take
the idea of
just like
observing or critiquing
in the first second and
just like actually hear someone out first
maybe. Yeah. I trust my instincts
so I feel like I'm right a lot too.
You know? There's people where I'm like
that person and then six months later
they do something weird and it's like I knew it. Alright, let's play a game.
Hey, Bo.
I want you to put up random people on the screen famous people anything okay musicians actors and just random people on the street no porn stars i won't know who they are
no right grandma do you like nancy pelosi no one likes n Nancy Pelosi. Does anyone like Nancy Pelosi?
Like, do I agree with her politics?
Sometimes, I guess.
You know what I mean?
Do I like her as a person?
No.
Who would like her?
How is she allowed to...
What if she's like the nicest, baddest bitch on the planet?
She might be, but like, how could she...
Well, she is a bad bitch.
You don't get to that point in government without being bad bitch yeah yeah what about um i don't really
trust anyone that far in government generally yeah especially if you're 80 like retire why do
you need this power yeah i don't get why you have to retire when you're 64 but you can work in
government until you're 97 or like graham thurman was like 94 and he was like a senator from south
carolina or something,
you know, really, that should be illegal. Then what? It's the same thing. So you just want all
old people to just go away. Who's this Gucci man? Yeah. See first one to pick is Gucci man. He's
fun. He doesn't take himself too seriously. Is that the thing? I like, I like people that don't
take themselves too seriously. You don't take yourself too seriously what if you're like yes i do what if i got this is the serious version of me
i don't feel like i take myself too seriously no i don't feel like i do but i take some parts
of my life seriously that's cool any other cool celebrities i can judge right yo bo put up put up
musicians let's see what he thinks about musicians.
Yeah.
Put Goose up there.
What do you think of Goose?
Fire.
Do you think these guys are hot?
Rick and the gang?
Yeah, Rick and the gang.
What do you think of these guys?
Yeah, they're hot.
Talk about hot dudes.
Rick is hot.
Dude, Andy's like mysterious.
Yeah, he's got that.
Have you ever talked to him?
Oh, you've interviewed him.
I don't know.
We're not like friends.
We don't text each other.
I'll text Pete every now and then, but Rick is hot.
Rick is really hot.
Zoom up on Rick.
He's the one leaning back with the bulls.
He's on the left.
He's on the far left.
Dude, come on.
And he's just cool.
He's just cooler than both of us combined.
You know what I mean?
That guy doesn't care what anyone says about him.
Yeah, probably not.
He's just like, cool.
I'm going to riff guitar and sing great songs.
You know, it's so amazing.
Just being hot is amazing.
I wouldn't know.
I wouldn't know either.
You're hot.
I'm not hot.
Okay.
You get like, some girl just Instagrammed you today privately to ask you on a date that
you never met before.
So?
I mean, you're hot. No. You're not as hot as Rick. A lot of people like before. So? I mean, you're hot.
No.
You're not as hot as Rick.
A lot of people like my brain, too.
I mean, you're not as hot as...
Well, that's part of being hot.
Yeah?
How you carry yourself.
Maybe you're not hot, actually.
No, but, I mean, you're a good-looking guy.
You're good-looking, though, right?
I don't think I'm good-looking.
Come on. I'm very insecure about myself, actually. Are you Rick? I don't think I'm good looking.
I'm very insecure about myself.
Are you Rick?
No.
Okay.
I'm not hot Rick.
But Rick's different.
That's a different kind of thing. Am I like Joel hot?
You're hotter than Joel probably, right?
I don't know.
I don't judge how hot I am.
Tough one.
I think you might be hotter.
You're a little more unique look than him,
but his body's better than yours.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, yeah.
Wow.
Speaking of hot stuff,
Repsy.com.
Guys, I just
had a call with Repsy yesterday
and they're saying that we've had so many
bands from the
podcast sign up for Repsy.
So shout out to y'all.
Repsy.com. Get your band out there.
We should ask them for more money.
No, they've been nice to us. They're good to us. Sign up for Repsy.com, but your band out there. Oh, dude, we should ask them for more money. No, they've been nice to us.
They're good to us.
Sign up for Repsy.com.
But also, here's a kicker.
You know who else could sign up for Repsy.com?
Venue owners, bars.
Oh, you can do business.
Wedding planners.
So we could flip it.
Whoops.
So if you got a bar and you need some bands to play,
there's like over 250, over 300 bands now on Repsy.com.
I feel like we're marketing.
Shout out, dude.
Everyone, shout out to everyone
listening to the podcast.
Hell yeah.
We're influencing, baby.
Fuck yeah.
We're fucking influencers.
It's because we're genuine and honest.
If we don't like someone
we see on the screen, we say it.
Exactly.
Speaking of...
Not like them as people,
for the record.
What?
Well, we'll get back to it.
Okay.
So if you guys own a bar or if you own a venue
and you're not like one of the live nations
or the AEGs of the world and you're independent,
sign your venue up to Repsy.com as well.
Or if you're a wedding planner,
they said they do a shit ton of weddings.
They book a shit ton of weddings.
There's a lot of weddings good right now
because everybody's making up.
Yeah.
They didn't have weddings for a year and a half.
Think about that.
So sign up for Repsy.com.
R-E-P-S-Y.com.
All right. Have a great week.
I have a feeling this is going to be a great fucking week.
I'm going to Vail.
I don't know. You said it's supposed to snow today.
It's supposed to snow eight inches tonight.
It's nice. Oh, you'd be so proud of me.
Eight inches joke about penis.
I don't know.
I stayed inside last night.
Wow.
Congrats.
You stayed in on a Monday.
Let's fucking go.
It's a Monday, dude.
What?
I'll be impressed when you stay in for a Friday.
Ew.
Why?
Oh, why would you do that though?
I'd rather go out during the week than not on the week.
Yeah.
That's what everyone, it's like, it's like everyone's out.
I'd rather just like go to a bar where there's like six people there and just
fucking have a couple of drinks.
Pound one out.
Pound one out.
Yeah.
Just have a little quick blackout and then go to bed.
What?
Do you blackout every time you drink?
I mean,
I don't stop until I go to bed.
What do you mean by blackout?
Do you not remember what you did?
I mean,
I don't know.
I know.
I totally remember everything I do.
I just think like after six, seven drinks,
I mean, you're intoxicated.
I haven't had six, seven drinks in so long.
I like to have two or three.
I don't like drinking.
I hate drinking during the day now.
Yeah.
What?
When I was younger and I
drank during the day, it made me cool know i was cool with it i was like yeah i could get a little bit get i hate it
cut it i get anxiety if i get yeah exactly i'm like i'm a loser i'm not gonna be able to do
anything yeah exactly everyone knows i'm drunk i'm at the grocery store i look like you know
what i mean i hate it so now as i get older i've been just like trying to pound like six or seven
eight drinks in like from like ten to two. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, that's healthier.
I don't know.
That's a lot of drinks. I don't think I do eight, but
I definitely will do when I'm out.
We're worried about you out here.
Hey, Bo, when I'm out, I
have shots and vodka sodas, right? Maybe you
should cool it on the shots.
Shots are bad for your liver, man. I know.
I don't know. I'll have like four vodka sodas and maybe
like four or five then wake up and take a tylenol wake up no and take an alka-seltzer
oh and then i'll take my probiotic and then i'll take vitamin d and i'll take four spirulinas
what's a spirulina it's like an algae that supposedly helps uh fight cancers and stuff
oh okay so i'm actually anti-cancer, so that's good.
I'm excited.
Oh, man, I had the craziest dream.
Do you ever have a dream?
Oh, yes.
We gotta do the whiskey thing.
I know we can, but...
I've been having fucking nightmares lately.
Dude, I've been having the weirdest dreams
about my friends like you and like...
You had a dream about me?
Yeah.
What happened?
I'll tell you in a second.
Okay.
But I had this one dream of my buddy Aaron Breslow from middle school LA.
And it really shook me that I texted him right when I woke up.
He was like, he had cancer.
I don't know if it was like referring to me having cancer because I'm neurotic.
I believe in when you see dreams and shit, sometimes like telling you something or.
Yeah.
I think it's more like,
yeah,
I believe that to a certain degree,
but not that far.
So we had cancer and there was like a,
and in LA they had a cancer results party.
Like a,
like a gender reveal.
It's cancer.
Yeah.
And it just felt.
What the fuck? It was such a weird, it was such a weird it was such a okay can i ask
you a question did you did you microdose that day no but i didn't drink because i've been and i
didn't smoke here's the thing i've been microdosing more lately whenever i do it i have insane
nightmares that night and it's awesome i love nightmares no because i love the feeling when
you wake up and it wasn't real oh god i don't i hate nightmares i just love them i get so immersed in them and
it's so bad sick fuck you like nightmares dude because i barely so i remember them for like 20
minutes after i wake up and then they're gone and i get so immersed in these situations and
it's always something where it's something's fucked up i need to fix something and i can't
do it you know or something like that or something scary or someone's sick or usually I
fucked up.
I had a nightmare about you.
What?
That I came over and did a podcast with you and took over the show and
basically took the whole podcast.
Are you worried about me?
No,
I'm just kidding.
I was like,
it wasn't a nightmare.
It was just funny that I bet your brain's telling you that Nick guys,
they're starting to like Nick.
I don't know.
You're not getting all the attention anymore. No, no, no. It wasn't like that. It was just funny that I bet your brain's telling you that Nick guys, they're starting to like Nick. I don't know. You're not getting all the attention anymore.
No,
no,
no.
It wasn't like that.
It was more like,
it wasn't about your personality.
It was just like,
like,
you know how people fight for like when we divorce,
like I'm taking the podcast.
Yeah.
You can keep the podcast.
I'm keeping the podcast.
I'm like,
fine.
I'm keeping the dog.
Like we're married.
Well, we kind of are.
We are.
That makes me happy. You're the closest
thing to a husband I've ever had.
You're the closest thing to a
best friend since Dolov.
I'm actually a better friend than him too. I'm just kidding.
He's a way better friend than me.
He brings you little gifts and trinkets and pictures.
Yeah, all these little pictures.
He's so fun.
Nick.
I want to be more like Dolov.
I just want to say I'm so thankful you're in my life.
That was fun when we...
You're welcome, actually.
Sorry, I got sidetracked.
You can pick all these different people and you picked me to be your best friend.
I know because you do fun stuff and you make stuff.
You don't just complain about people.
Oh, so you're using me.
No, I like to do stuff too, but I don't like to collaborate with people that don't just complain about people. Oh, so you're using me. No, I like to do stuff too, but
I don't like to collaborate with people that don't like
to do anything. So when are you going to tell me
you love me? I did already, remember? I know,
but it's a new year. Well, we got to get a thousand
Patreon followers when we put it up and then I'll
say I love you again. Speaking of new sponsors
and new friends
and new opportunities. Booze.
Dude, Screwball fucking
whiskey. Never had it. They're sponsoring the pot. Let's go. Thank you. Screwball. Dude, screwball fucking whiskey. Never had it.
They're sponsoring the pot. Let's go. Thank you.
Screwball. It's a peanut butter. It's a peanut
butter whiskey. It's only
11 in the morning, but I'll taste a little. It's
what time is it? It's
1154. Okay, noon.
Hey, it's talked about it on the pod. Like I don't like
drinking during the day, but fuck it.
You want some of this? It's always noon somewhere.
Okay, I like peanut butter whiskey. I of this? It's always noon somewhere. Okay. I like
peanut butter whiskey. I used to drink it at
P.V. Noodle House.
I never had it. Oh my God.
They use these
peanut butter jelly shots.
Oh no. Which are
fucking fire. Sounds like some sorority shit.
It's a little bit of a
sorority stuff, but
it's so fucking good.
So cheers. Screwball, thanks for being a partner of a sorority stuff, but it's so fucking good. So cheers.
Screwball.
Thanks for being a partner of the podcast.
We got to tell them about the hashtag.
So we're going to, what's the actual plan of this thing?
We're building this as we go.
I'm just kidding.
I like it.
I just never had it.
The first time I taste alcohol and it's like, you know, I was worried about it being too
sugary. Ooh, it's more peanut, but it's alcohol, it's like, you know. I was worried about it being too sugary.
Oh, it's more peanut, but it's like smooth.
It's like organic peanut butter instead of like the sugary peanut butter.
It's like that whole foods peanut butter.
Exactly.
It's good.
I like it.
It's more peanut butter than I thought it was going to be.
I was worried about it because I was like, fuck, I'm going to have to drink this every day.
Is it too sweet?
I'm going to get cavities.
Every day.
As you slam eight fruit by the foots.
That's true.
Bro eats Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and fruit by the foot every day.
So we're going to do a contest.
We're going to call it screw frasco.
Hashtag.
Hashtag screw frasco.
So S-K-R-E-W-F-R-A-S-C a s c o that's the hashtag i want you to take pictures
if you have a picture of me just roast frasco in some way you could roast me if you have pictures
of me wasted on stage people like a picture of me and my eyes just look glazed out or if you just
want to make fun of him in a tweet you can do that it doesn't have to be a picture yeah you
just make fun of me just make fun of and Andy in some way and put Screw Frasco.
And if you put Screw Frasco,
we'll pick the best picture.
And then we'll give them a prize. Or joke.
We'll give them some giveaways from Screwball.
And we'll give you like a signed
record and give you some t-shirts
and stuff. A signed record? Yeah, we're partners.
If they're going to give us giveaways,
then I feel like... Oh, but it's one of your
records. I'm just kidding. It's a good record.
What if it's a record of just us talking?
Like a vinyl. Oh my God.
Let's put this podcast on vinyl. Oh my
God. That's a great idea.
I bet we could sell
50 of those. We'll put it on our Patreon.
Let's do one and we'll... It'll be like
130 or what do they call it? 30 millimeter?
A 45.
No, it's only like 10 minutes aside too.
We should put a pod on vinyl
and then maybe we'll do like a giveaway
for the Patreon or something. It's not that expensive to make
vinyl. But it takes like 20
years. Oh yeah, I forgot.
We'll figure it out. Yeah, I am
so lucky we
prepared because I feel bad for bands
who are trying to release new records.
They're like, fuck, we can't release it in seven months
because of the fucking vinyl.
And vinyl's like a thing right now.
Dude, it's the only way to make money.
CDs are out.
Apparently, no one's listening to CDs in their car anymore.
How many people buy CDs at the merch table?
Very few.
How many vinyls?
I tell fucking Schwartz.
No one's buying fucking CDs anymore.
Okay, Schwartz, come on. CDs? It's not 2002 tell fucking Schwartz. No one's buying fucking CDs anymore. Okay, Schwartz, come on.
CDs?
It's not 2002 anymore, Schwartz.
Stop making me buy fucking CDs.
This isn't the Circle Center Mall in Indianapolis.
This isn't Sam Goody.
This is goddamn Andy Frascom concert, baby.
You know who does sell CDs?
Country music artists.
I bet.
Watch it, Andy.
We're not all from LA, buddy.
Fuck.
I had to. I had to.
I had to.
We're on fire today.
You had to do it.
That's why I'm here.
I know.
Someone's got to be honest.
We're going to have a great day.
We're having screwball.
We're having Repsy, screwball Repsy cocktails for the podcast.
And I just am thankful for the new partnership.
So go grab some screwball wherever you can find it.
It's really fucking good.
Hell yeah.
All right.
We're going to have a good week.
Yeah, we're already done.
Elizabeth Cook's up next.
We'll have to cut out the part
where I made fun of that band
I don't like.
Yeah, we will.
I like them as people though.
It's fun to cut it out
but leave this zone
so they can be like,
I wonder who he's making fun of.
Hallelujah.
Hallelujah.
Elizabeth Cook is the shit.
Yeah.
If you don't know her,
you guys,
Elizabeth Cook is one of the best songwriters in Nashville.
She's has a crazy story.
I won't tell you all about it,
but Elizabeth cook,
I want to go to Nashville and write some songs played like the opera,
the most that have like a lot of people on like low key though.
It's kind of like key.
She slips in there.
So it's like me at red rocks.
Yeah.
You are the Elizabeth cook of Denver. Yeah. But she's like on Red Rocks. Yeah. You are the Elizabeth cook of Denver.
Yeah.
But she's like on the marquee.
Yeah.
She's not like sitting in with the opener.
You know what I mean?
So enjoy that interview and I'll catch you at the end.
You feeling good?
I just like it.
Took me a minute.
You're the first.
I don't drink straight alcohol very often.
That's why I went inside it,
but it wasn't as rough as I thought it was going to be.
You know, you like when you drink just straight alcohol.
I love how it crystallizes.
It looks like a smoothie.
Yeah, it tastes good.
It's like very...
I don't usually like flavored alcohol, to be fair.
All right, let's stop sucking their dicks.
Why?
They gave us money.
I fucking love this alcohol.
It's so good.
It's so good.
All right, let's go.
Let's get out of here.
Hold on.
Elizabeth Cook.
Elizabeth Cook.
Genius.
Have a great day, guys.
Stay inspired. I want to do an inspirational speech.
Oh, shit.
I like this opening. I like when it's loose like this.
Fucking loosey-goosey.
We're going to have a great fucking week.
Whatever's worrying you today, stop.
Say, shoe devil, we don't need that shit around.
Shoe devil.
Oh, yeah.
Do you like my shoes? Yeah.
Let's go. Let's have a great week.
If you want to wear some nice shoes, you know what?
You're normally in the house. You want to wear that dress you had in high school? Fucking put it on.
Get your tax return and go shopping, motherfuckers.
Get your tax return and fucking treat yourself.
Elizabeth Cook will teach you all about treating yourself.
And I love you
and we'll catch you in the tail end.
You ready, Nick? Let's fucking go.
All right. Next up on the interview hour, we have Elizabeth Cook. Yo, Chris,
play some Elizabeth. She's a badass, dude
I just got hip with her and my homies Aaron Ray and Bird Cloud
And they've been talking about her forever
And she was in Hard Working Americans with Day of Schools
But she's an amazing Nashville songwriter
She's from Florida, didn't want to do music
Went to college, had a degree in something not music. And then she moved
to Nashville and fell back in love with the artist's song. And we had a great conversation.
She had a rough go at it. She had to go to rehab for a little bit. We talked a little bit about
that. Talked about her family life. She's one of 11. She has 11 siblings. It's got to be hard.
We talked a little bit about that, but I really think you're going to enjoy this one. You know,
gotta be hard we talked a little bit about that but um i really think you're gonna enjoy this one you know she's uh down to earth she was opened up and she was vulnerable and i just want to say
thank you elizabeth so ladies and gentlemen please enjoy elizabeth cook
it was raining on the cold steps i had a feeling I was slipping away
Can't remember last time I was there
But believe me
It won't be today
There's no way
Wow. Elizabeth Cook, how you doing?
Good. How are you?
I'm doing all right. How's the quarantine treating you?
Man, I mean, not, I, when you tour all the time and, and, you know, to have a, like the best excuse ever to like stay home and don't go anywhere and get your food delivered and grow a garden and, you know, be a full-time prepper.
Like it was, it was, it was fun.
That part was like, I kind of of enjoyed it but that's over now
like because you know there's vaccines and yeah things the honeymoon is over the honeymoon the
covid honeymoon is over so have you ever had a break like that for that long no and i that
totally occurred to me i was, at least like 15 years.
Holy shit.
You've been gigging hard like that for 15 years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's talk.
At least half the year.
Um,
how hard is it to like adjust?
It felt like it wasn't hard to adjust in the beginning.
We were ready for this fucking break,
you know?
Yeah.
Not at all.
Like not at all like not at all
but then like the longer it went it was like it sort of began to redefine who i am in the world
you know who you are in the world which if you're used to making music and going out performing for
people and having this sort of exchange of right goods and services and energy and all that stuff,
then you stop sort of being that person.
It's kind of like, I felt like it sort of like fucked with my basic sense of identity or something.
Right.
And that started to be unsettling.
So, yeah, I don't know.
It's like, am I a tiger or am I a cheetah?
I don't know anymore. How like, am I a tiger or am I a cheetah? I don't know anymore.
How do you cope with anxiety like that?
Well, sometimes better than others.
I have medication.
Yeah.
Like antidepressants?
Yes.
Some like from a head doctor and then some from Mother Earth.
And it's all and then some things that I just do to like, you know, exercise or whatever.
And I just try to I have to, you know, always change how I'm coping because nothing works for a long duration, it seems.
So kind of always rotating that out. And it's a stumbling and imperfect, messy process. But yeah, I feel that, you know, it seems. So, um, kind of always rotating that out and it's a stumbling
and imperfect, messy process, but. Yeah, I feel that, you know, it's like, I'm, I've been like
reading up on you. I'm like, how do you, you've been dealing, have you been dealing with anxiety
and depression your whole life or is this a new endeavor? Yeah, for sure. I didn't know what it was. You know, we didn't have those terms around.
Right.
During my coming up. But yeah, for sure. I mean, my dad was a bad alcoholic. He was a
wonderful, charismatic man that everybody loved, but he was a total monster dealing with his own
issues. And so that wreaked havoc on our little family unit. And so, yeah, I mean,
I was right there in the face of it with no siblings, my age, and just with like my mama,
my poor little mountain mama trying to handle it all. So it was an intense energy to be in
from early on. I mean, like you're the youngest of 12
11 11 so did you feel like you had a like um trust issues or abandonment issues or like what
was going on in your head when you were a kid i'm starting to think so yes yeah it's gotta be i mean
like i'm i'm one of two or three and i feel like i have fucking abandonment issues you know you
have 11 siblings.
Well, they were,
there were only two still at home when I came along because I'm,
they're all my half brothers and sisters by previous marriages. So my dad had five kids and then had a long stint in jail.
And then my mama had five children, um, as well.
And they met, you know, uh,
10 or so years into that process so um i was sort of disjointed from them age-wise um but really close and still really close to the handful
that i was around the most um and so yeah yeah that was that was a, that was a thing, you know, it's like the lesson to take care of myself and be emboldened enough to take care of myself has been the greatest, like fundamental lesson of mining through all of it.
But I feel like we're a million miles deep already.
And we've been talking for five minutes.
Sorry.
Yeah, no, no, that's what,
this is what I want to talk about. It's gotta be hard. Like having like a step family, it feels
like kind of like you're, you're the outsider looking in, in a way. Did you feel like that?
Yeah. I mean, not so much more until like adulthood, until like our parents had passed.
And that's sort of a bit of a, you know, kind of pulls a thread in the fabric of everything.
And so then seeing what sort of relationships
sort of withstood after that and how they redefined.
So yeah, I mean, I'm really like,
I just have like a lot of love
and some great, great relationships with a few of my siblings.
I mean, we just genuinely gush over each other and check on each other and we don't get to be together all the time.
Right.
But so that's been cool, you know, as an adult, because I was a kid, you know, they were a lot of times the ones taking care of me when something was going shit, you know, at their house, when something was going shit haywire at mine.
Yeah. Did you feel like your dad was never there for you when you were a kid?
No, I did not feel that way.
He was definitely there.
I was, I think, and it's a lovely thought to think either way, but I was like a love baby where they just genuinely fell in deep love
and had me because it made no sense
that they would elect to have a child
and they didn't have to
because my mother got diagnosed with cancer,
like ovarian cancer,
or maybe it was uterine.
I still, I wish I knew for sure.
But anyway, she had the option
of getting like a hysterectomy when they found out she was pregnant because they want, that's what they wanted to do.
That's how they treated women's cancer parts in the 70s, you know.
So crazy.
So they're like, well, you have cancer and you're pregnant, by the way.
So we want to do a hysterectomy and we can go ahead and do that anytime.
So we want to do a hysterectomy and we can go ahead and do that anytime.
And they elected, even though I was conceived in a motel where they were living, they elected to have me and try and see.
And she's 42 years old.
I'm her sixth kid.
He's 48 years old and like fresh sprung out of a prison stint.
And they were just so in love and good time and honky tonk life.
They were into it and decided to see the pregnancy through if it would happen.
And then it did.
And I came out into their world, you know, and we were a bonded little free musketeers, you know, the whole time, the whole time that they were alive in my life.
Well, shout out to the, those, the good sperm and the good egg 46, 48. Let's get it.
It's like, do you ever think about that? Like you could have not been here.
Oh yeah. Yeah. Does that freak you out or does that make you feel fortunate?
No, because I'm one of those weirdos that thinks we're all here all the time.
Yeah.
In just different shapes and forms.
So, yeah, not really.
I don't have that much of a precious perspective on my mortality, which is helpful in life, you know?
Right.
Yeah, I just, and two, you know, during one period of my life, I helped kind of, like,
helped a lot of people die, or as they were dying, I was with them, and in a few instances,
along with them when they, like, walked into the other side, you know? So watching, it's like watching birth, like watching
death is also, um, a very, uh, deeply spiritual, uh, experience. Right. What were you doing
watching people die? Uh, it was family. So, um, I had a string of, I had like five people died in
my family in like 24 months.
It was crazy.
What?
Started like my dad, my mother-in-law, my father-in-law, like it was like really happened.
It all happened fast.
So my, well, my mother who had died a few years earlier, actually, and then my dad and
my mother-in-law, I was all, I was in a caretaking frontline role, you know?
And when, when we got daddy home from the hospital to have his final days,
they, um, hospice came in and me and my sister just fired him immediately.
You know, she's a nurse.
What were they doing?
What was hot?
What did you see that you didn't like how they were treating them?
Well, I just thought they weren't going to do as good a job as we would.
That we knew what to do.
That, you know, again, my sister's like a registered nurse.
We knew what was coming.
We knew how to deal with the end times with what we had to work with.
Yeah.
And we could do it.
We could care for him.
And with a little more sensitivity and grace and sort of cathartic love around all of it, you know.
So like my sister was showering him instead of some like person from down the mountain, you know, that would like come in.
Yeah, it was like it's an act of love.
That's crazy.
So when you're going through all these deaths and how old were you when that
happened?
Oh gosh.
Okay.
Let me do math for a second.
Um,
it's a different side of the brain.
Um,
sorry,
it's early.
I didn't.
Yeah.
And it's early.
Damn it.
God.
Uh,
so let's see.
It was like 2010 years ago.
So I was like mid late thirties.
Dealing with death like that. Did you ever get into like substance abuse or anything like that?
I mean, I didn't think so. No, I did. I had one day where I made a bunch of bad decisions.
Like what, what'd you do?
It was an award show day. And I was going through this moment in Nashville where I had sort of become a gossip of the scene and not a good way. And I had to be on display and I had just been through
all those deaths and a house fire and two divorces. And so I got real skinny. I was vulnerable. I was weak.
But I was still expected to be present.
So I was singing in Hardworking Americans then.
Oh, with Todd and Dave Schools.
Yeah. And that's what brought me to the Ryman that night and the award show that night is because I was participating with them. Anyway, I took a Xanax in the morning as I was getting ready for the red carpet, as you do.
Xanax and champagne is like part of the tradition and makeup of it.
It's fundamental.
It's like putting on your pants. Oh, my God.
So, did that and then realized that I had a lot of responsibilities.
I was making three different appearances that night.
I was presenting an award, a lot of sitting in with different places around town.
I had a driver.
So I took an Adderall because I thought I better be able to remember all this shit.
Yeah, exactly.
And then I got to the Ryman and my dress was like not fitting me because I was too skinny.
It was like falling off one shoulder.
And I could feel people looking at me.
There were really, really bad rumors going around that were bizarrely untrue.
And it was scaring me because it was like people were ganging up on me, believing this story that was out there.
there and so i took an oxycontin um that my temporary assistant handed me and washed it down with the thermos of greyhounds i had brought from the house so apparently i had a toxic calm
uh cocktail yeah of um like a pharmaceuticals do you what it's like a speedball so you're going up
and i don't even know what that would be. And it was over the period of the day,
but I was so weak and skinny and not good.
So that was a dangerous day.
So what happened?
Did you pass out?
Well, no.
I mean, there's photos.
Matter of fact, here is one.
That's my last gig of the night.
So clearly I'm feeling pretty good.
Yeah.
But I'm also totally in the zone, which is why I have this photo up.
Right.
And I did all my obligations pretty much seamlessly and got home and went to bed.
And I don't remember all of it, but I remember doing the parts I was supposed to do and feeling fine.
Yeah.
And so then I had like an intervention,
like some people came over and were like, you know.
Did you go to rehab or?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like who came over to your house and who talked to you and what were they
worried about?
David Macias.
I mean, they were worried I was going to die.
David Macias, I mean, they were worried I was going to die. David Macias came over.
He asked me if I thought I was making good decisions for myself.
And I said, no, man, I don't make good decisions on the cereal aisle.
Like, I'm making horrible decisions all the time.
It's like terrible.
But they thought I might have an eating disorder
or that I might be addicted to something.
And they did not know,
but they knew that it needed to get found out.
So I had a tour with Todd that was coming up
that was going to be my nut for the rest of the year.
And I was so looking forward to it.
Me and him on a bus, just doing a solo run and we
enjoy our time so much and um i thought it would be really helpful and healing for me and i had
two songs two new songs i wanted to go in the studio and demo um and i couldn't like they
wouldn't give me like the flip the studio bill or whatever for me to go do it's like pre-pre for the
next record or when they wouldn't trust me to go do that
or anything at that moment.
So the things that would have helped me
looked dangerous to other people
or risky to other people.
I disagree with that assessment still today.
But I tried to get out of it, man,
but they found a place in San Diego
and I went there.
Yeah.
What about, about okay so like
there was a house fire and two divorces i mean like yeah what happened what happened well then
my sister got a divorce and i got a divorce and um so my sister's divorce had to do with the house
fire and i'll just leave that at yeah i'll leave that there but yeah the how the main house up at the farm where my mom
and daddy had lived in a little trailer down below them um burned down to to the ground and they died
did anyone die where um no just said the pets and you know a lot of stuff but um no my sister
climbed out a window my sister climbed out the window but uh shit yeah yeah and so yeah and
then i got the call and it's like an hour outside of nashville so i drove out there you know and we
just didn't watch it and we all went down to the trailer and mama and daddy were both passed at
this point by about six months daddy had been gone so we had the trailer was down there and empty
um and uh so we all just ended up sort of huddling in there and making popcorn on the stove.
And I think I had the Opry that weekend.
And we all gathered there.
Are you good at holding your feelings in?
I'm like, that seems like a lot of things that will beat you up.
How did you like?
Well, it's not like it is.
I mean, that is effectively what's
happening i guess but it's just like having to be strong feeling like you're having you got to be
strong right you know be strong for your family be strong for the nieces and nephews you know that
are witnessing this and you're now the oldest adults around them that they see. And, um, you know, you just try to keep your shit together. And, um,
Is it hard to write about this, like as a musician or a songwriter?
No, it's helpful.
Yeah. Does it?
Yeah. I mean, it's, it's intense, but it's helpful.
What's the hardest song that you had to write about this situation?
Well, they're not all written yet. for sure but uh i have to think about that oh
here's probably going to be on exodus of venus i'm gonna guess i mean
the hardest.
None of them were hard to write.
Really?
Mm-mm.
Yeah, because when I'm being moved by that kind of feeling and thoughts,
it's like, you know, we're on a train.
The train's on the track, you know, and it's not like this labored process.
Probably the hardest song that i've written to date to date
emotionally was a marry this of missing years which is the last song on aftermath so tell me
about the situation what i'm not familiar with that song what's it about okay so um john pran
i'm sure you're familiar with him he had an album called called The Missing Years. And there's a song on it
called The Missing Years. And it's all about when Jesus goes off the grid in the Bible between the
ages of 12 and 24. So Jesus goes off the grid. And so John Prine just writes this song. It's like
really long narrative of what all Jesus was doing. And he gets a band and he goes to Italy and has
pork chops with it and gets a girlfriend and they have a great time and, you know, all this stuff.
So I had wanted to write a mirror to that song about Jesus's mother and what she was doing during that exact same time frame and sort of juxtapose her experience with his.
Because he was missing?
Yeah.
Well, yeah, because he's missing.
Yeah.
So I wrote a song called
Mary, The Submissing Years,
and it mirrors John's.
And it's like a six-minute song.
And it's sort of like
about the plight of the woman overall,
which is for me and, you know.
Yeah.
So, yeah, it was like, that was painful when i realized what i had
written about and about the how you try and but you're oppressed and all the different phases of
going low and um getting strong again to get thwarted and, you know, the whole experience.
Do you hold your feelings in to make others happy versus making yourself happy?
I don't really think about the end of who's happier, who's not happy.
Hell yeah. I'll clap for that. Let's go.
It's sort of just a stubborn determination to stay strong a lot, I think.
Yeah.
I mean,
because it,
and it's,
I think it's a survival instinct.
Right.
It's,
you know,
my daddy was always trying to,
he was worried and he wanted me to be able to take care of myself.
And he would like throw a sack of feed or something over my shoulder when I was little
and be like, you're the only boy I got. You got to toughen up. You're the only boy I got.
Holy. Come on. And he would tell me like, you need to be able to tread water for 45 minutes.
He taught me to drive when I was 11. And I took the car alone and drove around the city streets
of Wildwood, Florida
with the window down and a little Chevy Chevette.
What is, yeah, I want to, that's what I want to talk about. You lived in, you grew up in Wildwood?
Yeah.
What is, tell me about like, how'd you survive? Like, it seems like it'd be a lot of, I'm,
I'm from California, LA, so I might be stereotyping Florida, Wildwood, Florida right now, but.
Probably not.
So tell me about your life in Wildwood.
Did you grow up poor?
Did you grow up middle class?
Upper, lower, middle, maybe.
I don't know.
So I was conceived in the motel.
And then my parents got hardworking people and smart people.
They got a little trailer and trailer park.
But then my uncle died died who had moved to
Florida from West Virginia years ago. And he had one of those little Sears Roebuck kit houses. So
my mother inherited it. So we moved in to there and that's the house I grew up in. And my daddy
had the ingenuity to use his welding certificate he got while he was in jail to get a mobile welding
unit and put it on the back of a truck so that he could drive out into the fields of farmers or,
you know, it's, you know, welding for somebody. Usually you got to take it to the shop.
He could drive out to a farm where irrigation pipe was burst. And it kind of like really helped
the little local community and economy of ranchers and farmers there.
So he kind of became an important man and we had a good business.
He never had like a fleet of trucks or anything like that,
but he occasionally had a helper or two. Um, so
they treat,
I was like their little white trash princess and I got kind of spoiled, I think, given the scenario.
But I didn't have things that my friends had.
You know, we didn't have a shower in that house.
We only had a bathtub.
And I remember the linoleum on the floor was a picture of green shag carpet.
Really?
It was so fucked up.
And my mama, who was a great housekeeper and housewife, she cleaned.
It was clean.
She, like, mopped those floors till the, like, corners were kind of rotting and peeling up, you know, on it.
And I just remember kind of being a little on staring at that and like kind of being like what the hell is that um but uh in and i had you know it's florida it's freaking gorgeous
a lot and wild and so fascinating for a kid to grow up in the nature and the wildlife that's
around there i had um a little schwinn bike and then i had a Western flyer bike after that. And I tore it up on those bikes and we went fishing a lot.
After work,
we,
me and mom and daddy like getting the work truck and fishing pole,
sticking off the back and go,
go fish.
And my parents really loved doing that together.
That was one of the things they really enjoyed doing.
Did you have a lot of friends or were you like kind of like being like you like being by yourself?
Um, a mix of both those things. Um, but yeah, I had, I had some great friends in school
and I had a lot of fun. I was fortunate there. I was on the end of more popular, maybe a little kooky, though, and uncomfortable to maybe
fit all the classic roles of the popular person in school. But yeah, you know, all my friends
were on the other side of town, you know, and nicer houses and stuff that I, we didn't think
about it that much. You know, we partied together and hung out together and
spent the night at each other's houses. And, you know, you talk about having older parents. I had
older parents too. Did that affect you at all? Having older parents when you're young like that,
do they have energy like to like really give you like that, that kid life? Or did you feel like
you had to like find energy from you know fucking hauling ass on your
and shit yeah that for sure yeah they were very um they were in love and they were very preoccupied
with their own life and they loved me and i was 1000 percent doted on but they had they had lived
through some rough chunks of life and they were enjoying their
little family and also in love.
And daddy had a business that was working and mama didn't have to work,
you know,
and could just stay home and like basically be his hand made.
And she's going through cancer through this stuff?
No.
Well,
she had the hysterectomy when I,
as soon as I was out on the
same visit like they got me and they got everything at the same time um and so she was recovering from
that as in my early early days so was it your dad who taught you the art of song or the love of song
who taught you like had that who made you fall in love with songwriting?
I mean,
that's definitely my mom.
Um,
she has such a passion for music.
It brought her so much joy.
It was,
I could see her escape when she played and sang and she was a great mandolin
player,
kind of a savant and acoustic rhythm guitar player,
like really talented musician and um could sing and she i think like watching her escape and seeing that was like such a nice
thing as a kid for me to see her do um that uh i really kind of fell in love with it too, like what she was doing.
I was like, oh, that's a good feeling, you know?
But then my daddy, he was more in it for the entertainment aspect.
Right.
And the getting to entertain and being the center of attention aspect.
So, you know, that's where the show biz comes into play, I guess.
But yeah, Mama, no, Mama was a really serious musician and wrote songs and wrote great songs.
What did she teach you about songs?
Well, I don't think she ever sat down and was like, here's a song, you know. But as early as I can remember coming home from school,
she would have lyrics written out for me on a poster board to practice.
And I can remember learning Harper Valley PTA because it's a Tom T.
Hall song, you know, and it's like four or five verses a story.
It's kind of, you know and it's like four or five verses a story it's kind of you know dense um
lyric and yeah and i remember like we're struggling with that one but um so she taught me songs in in
that way and um then she taught me how to sing harmony she taught me how to do she did like we
had a lesson about that kind of on a drive late one night coming back from the studio.
What did she teach you?
Do you still remember?
She put on I Saw the Light by Hank Williams.
And played it over.
We played it over and over again.
No, she didn't put it on.
What am I thinking?
She sang it.
And she was like, sing with me.
Sing the harmony.
Sing the harmony.
And we did it for like an,
an hour or so straight, same song over and over until I started finding it. And when I'd find it,
she'd let me know like, yeah, you know, or like, you know, I would just, she, then she just let me
sort of fish. So once I locked with her and felt that vibration, I knew what harmony was and how
that felt from an instinctive standpoint,
because we didn't have, you know, formal music education.
Wow. That's so,
were you passionate about music through high school and stuff or cause it,
why I'm, I'm kind of trying to wrap my head around.
Like if you're so passionate about this at such a young age,
why'd you get a dual degree in accounting and computer information systems? Yeah, right. I know. I don't know what happened. No, I do. Um,
I do. I know what I think happened. Um, so, you know, all that's going on and that's like the
musical bliss side of what was going on. On the other hand, my dad is a raging drunk alcoholic
and they would get these gigs and go play bars.
Sometimes I would come with them to the Pine Grove Lounge specifically.
So I'm a young kid in a bar, you know, maybe four or five, maybe younger.
I mean, when she was pregnant with me, they were playing a bar.
They had a band and they were playing in a bar.
When they, yeah, pretty good. Except except my daddy because my mother was great yeah but um my daddy has a
bass man like i said more of an entertainer but he did have a like he had a 72p bass you know
and they played like buck owens on just simple honky tonk music, you know, for like working people.
Right. And it was a party and it was a lot of times ended in violence and rage.
And in a lot of times, like whatever would come up around the music part would trigger my parents into, you know, an episode.
So I began, I associate those things.
I bet.
And was like, oh God.
I mean, it took a long time when I started really touring as an adult
to get over the smell of soundcheck.
Because a lot of times it's that Pine Sol Mop or that Mop Water.
Holy shit.
Pale beer and old smoke. Yes. And,, yes. And Bale Beer and Old Smoke.
Yes.
And, you know, the smell of Soundcheck.
Yeah.
And it smelled like the Pine Grove Lounge to me.
Do you ever get deja vu at some of these venues when, you know,
you're Soundchecking and start thinking about the other side of that
when you were younger?
Yeah, from time to time.
Not all the time, but every once in a while, yeah.
Yeah, I'll look around and I'll kind of remember it, you know.
So I didn't want to be around that.
Yeah.
I wanted stability, security.
I wanted boring.
I wanted, like, you know, to iron some things out
and have a more traditional type life, I think.
And I did well in school,
so I could, I could, you know, if we could figure out how to pay for it or how it was going to be
paid for. So I got to go through one year of community college, and then I got to go to
Georgia Southern because of the grants and stuff that started coming available.
I went to Georgia Southern.
So you're done with music after high school.
You just didn't want to be your parents.
Yeah, I didn't enjoy it anymore.
I didn't like how I sang.
I hated playing guitar.
I just didn't want anything to do with it. But I kept finding my way around it because I still enjoyed it.
Enjoyed other people doing it.
If there was a country rock
band playing in Statesboro, Georgia
out on the county line
where no college kids were going to be.
This is like the OG
trash
country people around Bullitt
County.
I'd get a girlfriend up and go out there and try to find somebody to go with me,
you know, and sometimes sit in with them and stuff because they're covering, you know,
Kentucky Headhunters and Skinner.
And you're like, I got this shit.
No problem.
That was a great time, man.
You know, I mean, I still love the music.
Were you, how was your partying in
college were you out of control a little bit or were you a student yeah i was i was both um i was
definitely out of control i um put myself in many dangerous situations really um yeah for sure and
um you know mastered the keg stand had a a lot of fun, wouldn't change a thing.
Had this crazy redneck girlfriend and she was a trip and me and her together, like we could make big parties happen because we decided we wanted to throw a party in an apartment complex.
And we were like, yeah, little redneck event planners for college kids.
When did you start hooking up with girls?
What?
You said you had a girlfriend or was that just a friend?
Oh, no.
No.
I was like, all right.
This is a little experimental part of the cook life.
No, no.
We slept in the same bed because we were so fucking poor.
But we were always just poor. But, but we did,
we've all,
we're always just,
just buds.
And that's cool.
She's longtime married to a fellow that she met there towards the end of our
college experience.
And I just saw them over Thanksgiving.
Oh,
that's great.
So you graduated from college.
What,
what made you decide to move to Nashville and try it out?
I had two job offers.
So one was for Ernst & Young in Atlanta,
and one was Pricewaterhouse in Nashville.
And the Pricewaterhouse gig was like four more grand a year, I think.
And it was in Nashville.
And I thought, well, maybe that'd be fun just to be around.
I'm a free girl now.
You know, I'm going to start making my own way, my own life in this town.
And so I thought that might be fun.
But it wasn't the focus.
And my sister had moved up here.
And they were looking for land because mom and daddy were going to come up here.
Was it cheap in 96?
Cheap?
Was Nashville cheap?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
I mean, I bought a house in east nashville for sixty
thousand dollars shut the fuck up in 2001 2000 2001 me and my husband at the time yeah
did you meet him in nashville yeah so night so this was 96 you got got this job. Did you like it or were you over it at Pricewaterhouse?
It was a nightmare. It was a nightmare. And I lasted 18 months.
And then so what was going through your mind?
As an accountant. I went to school for six years for a job I lasted 18 months.
What'd you learn from that?
Sometimes you have to find out what you're not and that's just as valuable as the other right and um
i'm proud that i took chances and made decisions to to make steps in my life towards something that
were kind of bold and um so yeah i don't i yeah i don't don't regret i don't regret it but it was
not enjoyable no so what got you back into music?
Like, what was the moment, the epiphany?
Well, I got a publishing deal to write songs on Music Row.
And you weren't even really practicing it or what?
No.
Let's fucking go.
I'm going to clap to that, too.
That shit is tight.
Yeah.
Well, I had, like, written a little bit in college
and kind of would plunk around with
it from time to time. So I had a song, I had a song called time on her hands.
It was like early Reba. And, um,
so I had met this guy at a party and music,
like songwriter party. And he had said, Hey, you sing.
Cause we would jam and stuff. He's like,
you got this traditional country voice. I know a guy that needs demos, you know,
sung about somebody with your type voice.
Would you go meet up with him?
So on my lunch break, I went,
I remember what I was wearing,
like a two piece wool pantsuit.
Yeah. I mean, I have my business game, you know,
I was a big six counting firm auditor.
So, you know, I'm like 26, you know, I was a big six-counting firm auditor. So crazy.
You know, I'm like 26, you know.
So I walk in there, and he was like, yeah, you want to sing something?
And so I picked up a guitar, and I sang this song that I had written in college.
And he said, do you want a publishing deal?
And I said, maybe, yeah. and um he said did you want a publishing deal and i said maybe yeah um and because i hated that job
so much and it hated me um was it like half the salary to the publishing deal or what oh less than
half oh shit yeah i think i went from 40k which was my starting at pricewaterhouse with every
benefit in the world and guaranteed big raises every three years and all this stuff.
Were you married yet?
So you haven't met your ex-husband yet?
No, not yet, but I would around that publishing deal.
Okay. So you're making 15,000 a year, $17,000 a year.
I think I was, it was like 18.
Holy shit.
It was 18. And I have a wealthy cousin that paid off one of my student loans.
It was like 10 grand or something.
And he's a millionaire.
He paid off one.
He's a big country music fan.
And he paid off one of those loans.
He and my daddy were tight.
My daddy helped raise him and helped him get his first car and stuff.
Were you close with him?
With who, daddy?
No, the cousin.
Yeah, yeah.
Still, I just saw he's passed, but I saw his son when I played down in Florida a few weeks ago.
Cool.
He came and bought me a giant avocado off his avocado tree.
It was epic.
I took it to Thanksgivinggiving i mean this thing
is the size of a small pumpkin an avocado is gorgeous florida shit man i'm like yeah
all you want because i know that florida is heaven on earth oh my god that is fucking amazing so
yeah this guy he basically kind of like got you out of like this,
like financial prison for you to be okay with taking $17,000.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I would have, we were going to figure out a way.
I mean, daddy was in, you know, it was like,
we were going to figure out a way.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure, but that made it.
Yeah.
And, but I couldn't afford rent anywhere.
So that office up there was in an old Warner Brothers building.
It was like a building from the 1800s.
And it was like originally like a home for like unwed mothers
where they would come to have their babies.
Yeah, those publishing houses feel like old like porn audition rooms or something, you know?
Yeah, well, this building was like from the 1800s.
It did feel like an old hospital type situation
before they even had like IVs and shit.
So that became the Warner Brothers building.
Up on the third floor in that corner office,
they had a shower across the hall.
And the publishing company owned all the Starday
and King record collection,
which is the first five
George Jones albums,
early James Brown.
And they had it all on vinyl
lining the walls
of this one room.
So I got this little fold out,
not even a little couch,
it was a chair,
but it folded out
and moved all my shit
into that little room
that was like an empty office
right next door to the main office.
And there was Showercross Haunted.
I lived there for three years.
So like looking back,
like damn,
they must've been dealing with a lot of artists.
For them to let you sleep there for three years,
I mean, they must've really believed in you.
Well, yeah, yep, they did.
But this was a small,
Nashville was a small office of a really large publishing company.
Oh, okay.
Based out of New York called Carlin.
And Freddie Beanstalk is this legendary old publishing character in New York.
And so we, the only reason that office was down there is because they had a little bit of country catalog that they, but they were making their money from like
ACDC and Meatloaf
and then
early works.
The catalog was, they were truly
one of the dinosaur giants.
We were kind of a little bit unsupervised
and the guy that signed me was super
passionate and wanted to be a producer.
He was looking for somebody
that he could make records on. And he was looking for somebody that he could make,
make records on.
And that was you.
And that was me.
Yeah.
Holy shit.
So during these three years of like living in the publishing house,
was it just nothing but music?
Then did you start falling in love with music?
It was just,
you're just like,
yes.
It was a great time.
Yeah.
It was a simple time.
Yeah.
Simple time. Great time. They also had townsman's ants time. Tell me about it. It was a simple time. Yeah. Simple time, great time.
They also had Townsman's Ants catalog.
Oh, shit.
Right that year,
Lucinda Williams put out car wheels on a gravel road.
The floor below us was E-squared,
which was Steve Earle's record label.
What the fuck?
So it was just cool.
I mean, it was cool.
It was a cool time.
There was some, yeah, there were still some interesting things happening down on the proper
music road corridor.
There were still some interesting, truly artistic tentacles that were able to operate there.
And so, yeah, I mean, so that's when the next level of my music education really began.
Okay.
So now that you feel like you're mastering the craft of songwriting, what was your first
big break?
Well, I wouldn't say I felt like I was mastering.
I mean, at least like using your full brain.
I was starting to try and do it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What was, I'm sorry.
What was the first break?
Like, what was like the first song you felt like, damn, I'm actually,
this is actually a good song.
Um, well, their passion,
they were pretty passionate about it. Um, when I'd write something, uh,
different songs, you know,
and there were just different little indicators like, um, so the,
the first, these demos that we make during this time become my first indie record, which we just called the Blue Record.
It came out in like 1999.
That record would get me a deal with Atlantic Records.
But it was literally the artwork was like a picture a girlfriend had took from Kinko's.
And I folded it up and slid it in the case.
And then just we passed them all around town.
And then Alan Lomax's grandson or like started like selling records
overseas and buying them from us. And we got them,
we got them consigned in like the local tower records and stuff. Right.
So it kind of became, it started kind of getting attention around town,
which was cool. But when I would, you know,
there was a song called you say on and a guy down the hall could hear us playing the demo and just came down the hall and was like
really into this song. And then there was a song that I wrote that I don't know if it ever made it
on a record, but I had a fancy co-writer come into and I showed it to her and she, I could tell
she was kind of, you know, she was like, well, you're, that song is I could tell she was kind of, you know,
she was like, well, you're,
that song is done and she was kind of offended that I'd even played it for.
Yeah. Because it was, I mean, looking back now,
it was kind of a little bit yeah. I mean, it was good.
It was good. It was a strong lyrical piece of music, but it was unconventional, and it was awkward and weird.
Right.
Still not, you know, was doing it, but really wasn't finding my lane, you know, like at all.
How long did it take you to find your lane?
About 18 years. Really? Maybe. Yeah. like how long did it take you to find your lane? Oh,
about 18 years.
Really?
Maybe.
Yeah.
What?
Yeah.
Still maybe just,
you know,
putting the paint in the lines.
Um,
but yeah,
yeah.
I don't know.
Is it,
when you say like it took 18 years,
like,
are you just a perfectionist and didn't realize you just weren't satisfied with yourself and your art?
Yeah. Yeah, for sure.
How'd you get through that?
Stubborn. Just keep be learning to mitigate being mad at yourself for not liking it and not so hard on yourself that you don't have the freedom
to keep trying to do it so you can rectify it and get better at it. So, um, yeah, just having to sort
of stare that down and leap over the hurdles when I was like, ah, still, you know, still not quite,
quite there. Do you feel like it was hard for you to like accept love?
Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
It's gotta be hard. I mean,
if you're beating yourself up over what lane you are with your career, I mean,
the personal stuff has got to be hard too, right?
Yeah, for sure. I mean, with the work,
it's just more like, and again, it's just trying to find like not being not concerned with the
marketplace, but just concerned more with whether I liked it or not, you know? So yeah, I think I'm
hard. I'm hard to be in a relationship with because I have a high standard of myself and I tend to apply that to others around me.
But not to say that I'm not,
I like to think I'm an immensely caring
and nurturing person to also anyone that I love
because it's fierce, fierce love.
Is it hard to love yourself?
I don't really think about it.
Well, that's good.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, more than I'd say it's hard to love myself.
It just feels like a waste of time.
Why?
Because I should be like working on...
I feel like I need to Venmo you 120 bucks after this.
I feel like I need to like Venmo you 120 bucks after this.
I, you know, feel like I should just be working on chasing that feeling of doing good
work. Right. That's the fun. That's where I feel joy.
That's where I feel love.
And when I'm able to like exchange that with people or tell that something
that I've written and that I'm playing for them in front of them is, is moving them, you know, and, and how healing that is, then, you know,
that's my job. And I care about being in that space more than I was like, you know, self,
I really appreciate you today. No, no, you're totally fucking right. Because like, I'm the
same way. Like I'm happiest when i'm
fulfilling my dreams you know like when i stopped thinking about fulfilling my dreams like right now
like i've been on the road i just got back two days ago but i've been on the road for like three
and a half months through covid and like 70 shows just it's a new level of stressful isn't it oh my
god right now oh my god touring through this covid thing is fucked up dude it is dude i couldn't you know i
might do you know aaron ray by chance i do yeah loosely yes aaron ray is one of my close friends
and like i she's incredible she's an incredible person and she's funny yeah exactly like bird
cloud like jasmine and those crew like man i love that girl. Jasmine is my shit.
I love Jasmine.
Exactly.
And they like, you know,
it's like this idea of like,
you could write,
you could be sensitive,
you'd be introspective,
but you also not take yourself so seriously,
you know?
And we need to like,
we forget that, right?
It's a beacon of hope, isn't it?
And like Thelma in the sleeves.
Oh, dude.
She's a bad bitch, dude.
I love her. Man, I love her too.
And just like her
reckless abandon
is inspiring to watch.
It's a little lesson in letting go.
You know, it's like. Is it hard for you to let go?
Yeah. Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, me too. I feel super responsible for my own safety
yeah so i don't i don't like if people like oh let's let's trip on mushrooms it's like i'll take
a little bit i'll fuck off with them here and there but it's like i'm not gonna like let me go
see if i can see an owl in a tree it's like no no no I see too much already as it is. I'm already completely overwhelmed with what is in my peripheral right now. I do not need to see past that.
And it's like, it's a control thing too, you know?
Control for sure. Yeah. Again, it's just not feeling safe, you know, not feeling safe.
Are you remarried or you have a boyfriend or girlfriend?
I have a boyfriend. Nice. How's it,
how it's like from like learning from your experiences of your past
relationships,
are you like dealing with this relationship in a more,
you know,
mature way,
I guess.
I don't know.
I think so.
Yeah,
I think so.
And I think it's good.
And it's,
it's interesting because there's an age gap.
Yeah.
And, um, I'm like, and i'm older than him by a pretty
good clip hell yeah and um i'm like hey man i'm just telling you like from a life experience
person like this is a got it how it got to be i think based on what i've learned you know and
it's just like not trying to lay like girlfriend rules or whatever actually
i think i have less of those than he was used to right um be just from being an older woman yeah
um and knowing that i'll be okay with or without his ass let's fucking go let's go there she is
i want to talk about your radio show why show. What's your little fascination with radio?
Oh, I mean, I'm not particularly fascinated with it, I would say.
I never thought that I would be a DJ or somebody that would talk on the radio.
But it just sort of happened.
And mainly because apparently I have an accent and that was on brand with the channel, uh, and I was female.
So I just sort of fit this bill and started doing it.
And it, because I had no training and no direction whatsoever.
Um, I, it kind of took it, I think it kind of took on a more original type life in my
approach to it for people.
So it seems like, you know,
it doesn't feel like they're listening to a DJ.
Like I don't have a DJ voice that I turn on.
So which Bob Dylan does and on his,
that radio show that he has done, but I feel like it's, you know,
he's being ironic.
Totally.
Like he, Like he do.
You know, I just interviewed Steve Van Zandt.
Any part of that?
Oh!
Dude, he is a legend, dude.
When?
Yesterday.
How long ago?
Yesterday.
Dude.
He just played a major role in my life.
Dude, any part of Outlaw?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He just changed my life.
What did he do?
Tell me.
He renegotiated a deal.
Really? Single-handedly. Oh changed my life. What did he do? Tell me. He renegotiated a deal. Really?
Single-handedly.
Oh my God.
And wouldn't let anybody else talk to him.
Not me, not my lawyer, not my agent, not my manager.
We were instructed just, and he did it.
He's like, I got this shit.
And he did a good job.
He did a good job.
Oh my God.
Isn't he amazing?
Yeah.
I really feel like he really wants to help.
Because I was thinking about stopping. Next year was going to be 15 years, and I was thinking about stopping. oh my god isn't he amazing like i really feel like he really wants to help stopping next year
was going to be 15 years and i was thinking about stopping and and he's like no we're gonna we're
gonna make you sad and happy yeah he told me he wanted to try he gave me like you know it's like
i was talking i was like burnt out at the interview i just got back from my tour
flew in he's like hey you can't burn yourself out. It's not about, you need to like take time. And like, it's part of the life, you know, the rock, the rock and roll
life, not just like work, work, work, and then get your two weeks off. He's all about living life.
Genuinely have a great time. Yes. Are you, have you learned that from the experiences you've had
in the music industry? Are you like trying to be less hard on
yourself yeah you know i used to as in my my sarcasm um when we would be on tour in the van
and we would ride by like a like a water park or a theme park roller coaster park right by the
interstate somewhere louisville or atlanta or what you know wherever you see those um and i
would just kind of muse and say to the band like wow look at that people are having leisure i
couldn't imagine taking a day a whole day and hundreds of dollars and going and fucking off in
a roller coaster ride park right now i I could not fathom doing that.
So that kind of made me aware that maybe I was off base there a little bit.
And so I tried to, yeah, make sure that we have enjoyment and blowing off steam time
because it is part of the job.
And I always tell my boyfriend, boyfriend, rest is part of work.
And we're not used to that as the poor labor force.
We're dog whipped all the time.
Is he a musician too?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Dog whip all the time.
I was like, and then guilt when you stop and take a whole day and binge a TV show.
Right.
Like, ah.
But when your work is, you're, you get, you're getting to create
and it's super fulfilling and it's also maybe helping pay the bills. Then you're super, you're
driven to just stay on that all the time, but it's not sustainable. Yeah, it's true. Well, Elizabeth,
thank you so much for talking to me. You're fucking awesome. Yeah, this is great. Yeah.
We got to be friends. I feel like we're simpatico on, on some vibes and you're, you love all the people I love. So I'm just thankful that, uh,
you took the time to talk to me. I appreciate it. Well, I'm thankful for your time and your
thoughtful questions and being invited on your cool podcast. So thank you so much.
We're in this together. I got one last question. What do you want to be remembered by?
so much.
We're in this together.
I got one last question.
What do you want to be remembered by?
Songwriting.
Yeah.
Good. Or writing.
Yeah.
You know,
I have a feeling you will be.
I hope so.
You know,
it's just taking a while to get the,
try to get eyes pointed there.
Hope that they notice.
We're noticing and we're fans and keep doing the Lord's work out there.
I'm Jewish.
I don't even know why I said that.
Well, you know, I mean, it's a general term.
That's how I like to look at like Lord and Jesus and all that.
It's more of a like a, yeah, it's a general term.
Well, hopefully we could have a go hang out in Nashville and I'm back in there.
Yeah.
Holler, man.
Holler at me.
Elizabeth, thanks for being on the show and you have a great day.
Okay.
Thanks, Andy. Later, dude. Bye dude bye hell yeah that was a blast thank you thank you elizabeth that was
fucking cool she's i love that everyone says she's a badass she's a badass dude it's fucking
awesome so thanks for being on the show elizabeth all right we'll catch you on the tail end.
And there you have it.
Thank you, Elizabeth Cook,
for being honest and being vulnerable.
I loved it.
She's the shit.
I really did.
I wish that one was videoed because we were really connecting.
I was having a crush on her heavy.
She's married or has a boyfriend. Yeah, you should definitely talk about a crush on her heavy. She's married. She has a boyfriend.
Yeah, you should definitely talk about your crush on her
in the interview then. I didn't because
I'm a professional interviewer.
Did you have a crush on her?
She's amazing. She was just really
smart and really cool
and really honest. I fuck with Nashville.
I want to move to Nashville.
I don't think you'd like living there.
Why?
I don't think you'd like it. It's more like
LA than Denver. Like the people kind of.
Yeah. A bit of like the
what do you do?
Who do you play for?
Yeah, I get it.
Denver has that a little bit too. But I like Nashville because
it's like no bullshit.
I mean the songwriters.
I love songwriters. Inarguable there.
Yeah. Definitely better songwriters there I love songwriters. Inarguable there. Yeah.
Definitely better songwriters there than anywhere. Pretty much maybe LA or New York, I guess.
Oh, I got dates. I got dates. It's most, it's my birthday. It's my birthday. It's my birthday
this weekend, guys. Um, I'm turning 34 years old. Jesus. It's 192 in dog years. 34.
I mean, I'm still, I'm not, I don't feel old, but I don't feel young.
You're not young. You're not old either.
I'm not old. I'm not prime. You're not weird.
Well, I can't really celebrate a 34th
birthday. Hence why I'm throwing a show
at the, where are we playing?
Boulder Theater, Fox Theater. Fox Theater.
God, I can't remember shit. February 11th,
Fox Theater, February 10th,
10 Mile Music Hall, and then the 9th in Steamboat at theater fox theater god i can't remember shit february 11th fox theater february 10th 10 mile
music hall and then the ninth in steamboat at that um i never played there before in steamboat
which place old town pub i love that guy he's cool owner's dope yeah yeah we're competing with
smeggety show and what do they have i don't know some dj but they sold it out so that's good it's
good but we didn't sell them any tickets to Steam. People do day off
there. I don't know if there's that many music
heads out there. Oh, it's a bigger town there than you think.
Okay, well come out to the show, Steve.
People live there.
I'm expecting a dud, but
whatever. That's what you do. You expect
the worst.
What about... And then I'm going to...
10 Mile. 10 Mile. That's good.
Have you played there? I think we've half packed it so far. Have you played there? What about, uh, and then I'm going to 10 mile. That's good. We've sold, we sold,
I think we've half packed it so far.
Have you played there once for like their company party or something?
I like their venue.
It's cool.
All the mountain towns.
And then,
um,
we're going to Atlanta and we're playing sweet waters,
uh,
birthday party,
sweet water brewery.
Oh,
cool.
And then,
um,
we go back to the week after we go back to Gasparilla
and then I'm going to Puerto Rico
for two weeks.
To hang out? Yeah. What am I going to do?
You want to come? No, but
thanks for inviting me though. Yeah, of course.
I'm not going to have anything to do.
I'm going to take drugs
and touch the water.
Maybe I'll make a bunch of audio podcasts by myself.
Yeah, we need you to start working on that.
But you know,
like the avatar water,
like a luminescence or whatever,
where it's like,
it glows in the dark and shit.
I'm just going to like take mushrooms and just like swim in that water all
night.
Wow.
It's like you're on fucking real housewives,
Beverly Hills.
Sounds fun as fuck.
You'd be a great rich housewife.
Shut the fuck up. You'd be a great rich housewife.
Shut the fuck up. You would why? Because I could just like want to do
all this literature like you would be
fit in a dope
dad.
No, I'm not. I'm not
going to be. Here's my pitch producers.
Hold on. Bravo TV. Let's hear me out.
Beverly or a real house
house Beverly Hills next season.
All the same cast toss frasco in.
You tell me that show isn't twice as good immediately.
I'll take it.
Dude,
that would be so fun.
What about the real housewives of Denver?
They don't have that.
I know we get all like,
no one's rich enough.
The musician and the woke wives and shit.
Oh man,
that'd be fun.
That would be fun.
I love when jam band people think they're celebrities.
It's so cute in Denver. They're celebrities. I love when jam band people think they're celebrities. It's so cute. In Denver
they're celebrities. It's so precious when they
think they're celebrities.
You guys, you're backstage at Cervantes.
Okay.
Oh,
you're on fire. All right,
we're done. We got to finish. It's a long episode.
Stay safe out there. Be
the best people we can be.
We got the kitchen dwellers up next week.
Hey,
our boys are putting out a record.
Diciani.
Diciani and the boys.
He manages them,
right?
Yeah.
Kitchen dwellers.
And then I interviewed Hanson.
Hell yeah.
It's going to be awesome.
And then I got a bunch.
We got a bunch on the plate.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's going to be fun.
Barack Obama.
We got something really big that we can't announce yet,
but we're going to be so rich.
We're going to be so rich.
We're going to be so much richer than all of you.
Just kidding.
Subscribe to our Patreon.
Subscribe to our $5 a month Patreon.
That's how rich you're going to be.
No,
but we got some really exciting news and it's one of the biggest things of our podcast career.
Let's not.
I don't know. If Schwartz calls me and says it's done. Oh, do you do I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be honest with you. do it's close a deal you know what i mean the guy's the closer we call him the closer i respect schwartz as a professional yep so once we announce that that's gonna be fucking tight um but until
then be safe um don't let your demons if we do that we're gonna it's gonna be so fun oh it will
be blessed don't let your demons get you down be the people you want to be don't let people tell
you that you're a piece of shit because you're not who's
telling people that in their heads you should say we judge people in the beginning before i don't
judge them i would never call anyone a piece of shit though that's nobody in your head you know
you can't piece of shit that's too much some people are like that that's terrible way to be
they usually hate themselves so that's what i say don't let those fucking assholes get you down
and they hate themselves great week and let's fucking, yeah, they hate themselves. Remember that you're a mirror. Yeah. You're a mirror. Don't,
don't fucking put that shit on my fucking gang over here. Read a book or something. Yeah. Read
a book. Be inspired. Make a video fucking hater or screw frasco. Make a video for screw fast. Yeah.
Put that energy on me. Not on my friends. I can't wait to see some of these videos. Oh my God. I'm
afraid. I think I opened Pandora's box. Because your fans are wild
and fun. Yeah, I hope everyone
just does some crazy shit. Alright.
Goodbye. We love you.
And Nick. Yeah, we did it.
We did it again. Thanks for drinking at noon.
I know you don't like doing that.
Bye.
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