Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 159: Kitchen Dwellers

Episode Date: February 15, 2022

Listen up! Andy offers y'all some tasty ear candy as he intro's the band's newest single: Wash, Rinse, & Repeat. Andy & Nick navigate the intricacies of Denver's music scene, the merits of HBO's Eupho...ria, & whether Andy should go to rehab. But more importantly! On the Interview Hour today, we welcome our buddies, the Kitchen Dwellers! Find out what it takes to be in a kickass bluegrass band. We got dates and we'd love to see y'all out on the road. Smooches  Get your voyeuristic rocks off now by watching (most of) this episode via youtube.  Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out Andy's new song, "Wash, Rinse, Repeat" on iTunes, Spotify  Listen now to the Kitchen Dwellers: www.kitchendwellers.com Produced by Andy Frasco Joe Angelhow Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Brian Schwartz Arno Bakker

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right. Hello, everybody. It's Andy. How's everything doing? How's our heads? How's our minds? Are we staying out of trouble? I hope so. I want to start the show this week with a world premiere, a new single off our new record, which is funny because the song is called Wash, Rinse, Repeat, and the record is called Wash, Rinse, Repeat. It's basically about a song that is, oh man, I can't talk today. I had a fucking rager for my birthday. It's a song about just trying to figure out what you like to do every single day
Starting point is 00:00:33 and try to do that every day. Wash, rinse, repeat. We're finally getting out of this COVID bubble and it's just important that we don't forget who we used to be. So ladies and gentlemen, Chris, play the horns, baby. It's a world premiere. You know what time it is.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Ladies and gentlemen, please enjoy my new single with my band, Andy Frasco and the U.N., Wash, Rinse, Repeat. I can't hear the music in the streets again. The neighbor's house is bouncing, no one's calling the cops. We're dancing in the basement,reaming at the top of our lungs It feels good to be back and on demand You can call me honey I can call you money We don't gotta go anywhere
Starting point is 00:02:04 Do nothing but listen Make out in the kitchen Live like we got millions We don't care And wash Rinse And tear the wood off the windows On big city streets
Starting point is 00:02:24 Everyone is smiling without their TVs. You can call me honey. I can call you money. We don't gotta go anywhere Do nothing but listen Make out in the kitchen Live like we got millions We don't care And wash Rinse And repeat And wash, rinse, and repeat The good life
Starting point is 00:03:11 The good life The good life Do nothing but listen Make out in the kitchen Live like we got millions, we don't care You can call me honey, I can call you money We don't gotta go anywhere Do nothing but listen, make out in the kitchen
Starting point is 00:03:44 Live like we got millions, we don't care. And wash, rinse, and repeat. Yeah, we're done. What the fuck is wrong with us? Ah, fuck. Why are you like this today? Because I... You didn't even gig this weekend.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I know. You're more hungover when you don't. I guess that makes sense, when you don't work. And we're back. Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco. How's your heads? How's our minds?
Starting point is 00:04:23 Are we staying out of the dark crevices that a hangover brings? I don't think so. I mean, you aren't. I got Nick Gerlach, my co-host here. How we doing, buddy? I'm good. I had a great weekend. I worked my ass off.
Starting point is 00:04:36 You did. You gigged hard. Rehearsals and gigs. Yeah, you did a lot. You came to all of my gigs. I came to every single one of your gigs. And we didn't talk until after the third one. Yeah. So gassed. That's how we know
Starting point is 00:04:47 we've said it. We put it all on the mics. We don't talk in public. We don't interact in public. No. No. Just publicly on a podcast forum. I might throw a couple roasts from across the green room, you know? Oh, man. I went to like six concerts this weekend. I know. And
Starting point is 00:05:03 I drank all weekend. And then I thought it was smart to go get a nitrous tank at Sunday night. That's pretty fun though. It was pretty gas. No pun intended. No, literally. And I just watched Euphoria for five or six hours. And I had to wake up early to do a podcast interview.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Is that the teen sex drama that's on HBO right now? I fucking love it. I haven't watched it. I am obsessed with it. You know, there's a large group of people on Twitter that are mad at it. Why? Because they're promoting drug use to kids?
Starting point is 00:05:33 No, that and there's these people that are saying it's like pedophile shit. Pedophile stuff. Because it's like high schoolers having sex. Yeah, it's pretty edgy. I haven't watched it. It's pretty edgy, but what isn't edgy in 2022? But they're not actually, the actors are like 25. Yeah, it's pretty edgy. It's pretty edgy. But like, what isn't edgy in 2022? But they're not actually, the actors are like 25.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Yeah, yeah. I don't understand. They're not actually having sex either, guys. It's a movie. Yeah, or they're not doing heroin either. No, they're really doing heroin. Oh, is it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:59 No, they're getting vaccines. Oh. They just use that. They just use the, they're like hey you're getting your vaccine today can you just come in and do it the studio we need you for a shot oh man right off the bat we're talking about kids having sex and doing heroin well it's like kids remember kids the movie yeah i love that movie actually dude it's edgier than kids. Is it? It's pretty heavy. I actually disagree,
Starting point is 00:06:26 but I haven't seen it. But remember, like someone got AIDS in kids. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, no. From being R worded.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yeah. I don't even want to say that word on the podcast. Yeah, don't even say it. Yeah. Um, how we doing Nick? I'm good.
Starting point is 00:06:38 It's my fucking birthday. It is your birthday this week. You're not like a big birthday guy, are you? I am. Sometimes I feel weird, like asking people to buy tickets to go to my birthday party. Well, but it's a show.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Yeah. I mean, they would go if it wasn't your birthday. True, true. You don't want it to be all about you for once? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we're releasing a new song on Friday. Made a music video. Just a lot of things going on.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Our new record comes out April 8th. Let's fucking go. I can finally announce it, baby. Oh, so we have a date. We have a date. April 8th. You are officially a musician again. I'm back.
Starting point is 00:07:14 I'm back. Brian had to slap me into shape, and I'm officially a musician again. Tell me about the album. Oh, God. I don't even remember we wrote it so long ago. Can I ask you some stuff about it? Yeah, sure. How on it 12 oh it's a real album real ep it's called wash rinse repeat i like that about you you're putting not a lot of bands are putting out albums it's all like singles these days but you have enough clout that you can do that now yeah and
Starting point is 00:07:39 i just feel like i'm such a old school way of I love the product of an album you know it's your yeah your year of art in one sitting especially for what you do is like it works for you more yeah it's so weird how bands aren't making records anymore because of ADD culture yeah but I mean it's you know it's not their fault really no it's who's consuming it yeah and like you get more bang for your buck if you just keep releasing singles so it's like for me it's like i don't feel like i produced something like a project for the whole year if i just keep putting out singles and yeah put them in a collection but i think singles especially make more sense if you're like a
Starting point is 00:08:21 producer right like electronic music producer because you can be like, I do, because a lot of it's about genre with that and they switch genres up a lot. Right. It's kind of weird to like listen to an album where it's like a hip hop tune and then a drum bass tune. You know what I mean? What they're doing is different.
Starting point is 00:08:36 But for you, it's like you're writing songs with lyrics. I don't know. You have a theme. Yeah. Plus you're like, your mentality is always changing in your life, I feel like. And I feel like your album's kind of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Your albums are, you have good lyrics. I have to hand it to you i used to drink all week now i just smash them on on the weekends i want to talk about your lyrics more yeah talk about you for once it's your birthday wow you want to talk about me today you up all right 34 how do you gas up a 34 year old you don't you tell him he's good at writing lyrics though i was gonna bring you a present today but what was it it at writing lyrics though i was gonna bring you a present today but what was it it's not done yet i'm gonna bring it next week what is like an arts and crafts present well just i'm not a very good gift giver so we gotta work on it you got me a gift let's get back to your lyrics so here's why they're good all right you don't like being complimented do you no
Starting point is 00:09:19 yes you do you fucking liar well not that many people are writing good lyrics anymore well i think people are afraid to talk about what they want like what they're actually dealing with it kind of plays into like stand-up comedians for me too the best stand-up comedians talk about themselves it's like you know what i mean and what you're doing is good because you're reflecting general things but you're still writing about yourself right it's good i'm sick of corny love songs which is you know it is valentine's day whatever but i always write writing about yourself, right? It's good. I'm sick of corny love songs, which is, you know, it is Valentine's Day or whatever, but... I always write songs about my friends' relationships.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Yeah, what... Is that what all your songs are about, your friends' relationships? When I'm writing a love song, I'm writing it about my friends' relationships. Like who? I've wrote a song about Sean's relationship with Toby. I like their relationship.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah, they got a good one. They're like of a fun marriage. Yeah, yeah. They're always having fun. And, you know, like, Toby keeps him on his toes, you know? Yeah, they got a good one. They're like of a fun marriage. Yeah, yeah. They're always having fun. And, you know, like, Toby keeps him on his toes, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah. If he didn't have any of that, he'd be, you know, he'd be living in a Rolls Royce. Yeah, I guess. So shout out to Toby
Starting point is 00:10:17 for keeping my boy Sean alive. Let's go. Side note, we murdered it this weekend in the Led Zeppelin thing. Yeah, you, by the way. That was good, right?
Starting point is 00:10:26 I loved it. I was kind of worried about hearing horns with Zeppelin, but it was sick as fuck. I'll clap it up for you. Dave picked some cool arrangements. I can't wait
Starting point is 00:10:36 to take any credit for that. I know, Dave and Sean and Todd Smalley. Todd Smalley is one of my favorite people ever. He's so, he's got such swag
Starting point is 00:10:45 he's the bass player of JJ Gray he's like Allman Brothers family too yeah he has some medallion they gave him like some medallion
Starting point is 00:10:52 and I love seeing Sean you know he loves that music so much yeah it's fun to see him no offense it's like
Starting point is 00:10:58 it's fun to see him get to play that yeah you know what I mean yeah totally but with a band not by himself yeah
Starting point is 00:11:03 he does it solo but it's different when you got like a sick drummer yeah Todd Sm he's such a badass bass player man uh he is he has that thing here's how you can tell a good bass player okay it's like you don't notice them and at the end of the gig you're like holy shit there was this badass you know i mean yeah you don't notice until the gig's over and you're like oh man i didn't notice the bass one time that right that means he's just in there. He's fucking shredding it. Just smiling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:25 God. Oh, you'd be proud. I went on my first Bumble date. You did? Where'd you go? We went to Tavernetta's. Oh, restaurant. And then she was deathly.
Starting point is 00:11:35 This was last night. Wait, hold on. You went on a date after going to that Scott thing? Yeah. And I was just hammered. And I was so wasted by 4 o'clock because scott's dj show started at noon so i was just pounding vodka sodas and dancing to you know come on come on come on come on come here the time you're fucking 33 year old yeah and i got all smiley yeah and that's how
Starting point is 00:11:59 i first realized i was old you're older than jesus now. I made it past Jesus. Let's go. Let's go. So tell me about this date. Get back to the date. Okay, I will. And then, but I realized I was old because there was a couple younger people there
Starting point is 00:12:13 thinking like, oh, a DJ is playing. And then it's just like all fucking just like 80s and 90s music. They probably still liked it though. They said it was fine. But like,
Starting point is 00:12:22 I realized I was so old because like, she was like what the fuck are you guys listening to oh no it's just whitney houston yes it's the greatest pop singer of all time you fucking loser you are wrong we're not old you're young let's go god are we becoming those old people who make fun of you because like we knew who the allman brothers were when we were in high school and shit. Right. People should know about Whitney Houston. She's like an archetype of the culture. Right, true.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Anyway. She probably, we'll see. I'm a mess. You sound confident. I've had people get on me for saying, get over it, Frasco. You always talk about never having a girlfriend. I'm like, I don't.
Starting point is 00:13:05 People ask, though. though yeah they ask and like you know it's like also like maybe i shouldn't wear it as a badge of honor at the same time i have seen you go up to someone part i'm like andy frasco never had a girlfriend nice to meet you i said that no but you know i mean you get right into it people though yeah i do i overhear i overhear i just keep going i going. I had a tiff with a friend in the Loja Beach crew. And she was saying, like, she thought I was full of shit. I'm not going to say it. I know who it is already. She thought I was full of shit.
Starting point is 00:13:38 About what? What is he hiding? Why does he always talk about his sex life? I'm like, because I'm like a recovering sex addict. That's how you talk about it. You should talk about that in recovery does she think you're lying yeah she thought i was lying i was full of shit i know for no one would make that up no you couldn't write this no no one believe you no i mean you literally i mean euphoria is probably cool for you because you're like oh that's like it's like watching you It's kind of like my high school. Yeah. No, it's like you.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Yeah. I wasn't doing heroin and. Oh, I don't know. I didn't know there was that much. Having sex with hookers. I haven't really watched it. I thought it was more of a, is there drugs going on? So much drugs, so much heroin, so much sex, a lot of dick.
Starting point is 00:14:16 There's a lot of dick in it. Hell yeah. Oh my God. Wow. Maybe the Republicans were right about it. No, I'm just kidding. But their life, it just... Yeah, I don't get why people are so pissed
Starting point is 00:14:32 that they're glamorizing drugs. We're not glamorizing drugs. I thought the point was this is bad. Yes, exactly. That's why we're talking about it. That's why I have conversations. A lot of people... I had some guy yell at me,
Starting point is 00:14:44 kind of give me shit about why are you getting so deep with these artists? Like, why are you trying to like get the bad things out of them? What does he want you to ask him about?
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah, you want me to write, talk about the same fucking things you hear every day? What's your favorite band going up? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:14:57 what, what, tell me about the guitar solo in track three of record. Yeah. It's like, I don't give a fuck about that. I want to talk about you.
Starting point is 00:15:06 That guy's favorite band is a jam band. Jam band guys. God, they all think they're journalists and they all think they're music business experts. I just, it's like fantasy football to them. The way they look at music,
Starting point is 00:15:17 music sometimes. Yeah. Well, I don't get why people take, like they have to know everything about the business. It's like, just like the band. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:31 You know, exactly. Speaking of stop interviewing so hard yeah like what do you want me to do just don't listen then i know but like the time now that you get more success i'm getting more successful as an interviewer blah blah now people are like like feeling like i need to sugarcoat these interviews and not talk about addiction and not talk about mental health. I thought that was the whole reason people like this is because you don't do that. I know, but like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:15:49 exactly. So you want them to be like every other podcast with listeners? It's like, that's the worst thing. I'm like, where'd you grow up? Just like, just read down the Wikipedia.
Starting point is 00:15:58 You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. That's the worst thing about, um, you know, just, uh,
Starting point is 00:16:03 doing something that you're passionate about and that you love to do and, like, love to get to know people via a public space and, like, having people be open in a public space is still people are going to shit on it. A wise man once said, tell the haters they can suck your dick and vagina. Let's go, my guy!
Starting point is 00:16:22 Yeah. I'm pro-Andy today, huh? You are fucking on fire. It's your birthday. Let's go. My guy. Yeah. I'm pro Andy today. You are fucking on fire. It's your birthday. Thanks, buddy. I am pretty. People think I'm meaner to you than I actually am, though.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yeah. It's fun. You're not mean to me. The best is when people come up to me like Cervantes and they're like, Andy's fucking dumb, right? I'm like, no.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I'm not going to do. I'm not going to riff on Andy with you. I know. Pay 20 bucks for my cameo and I might. Yeah. This shit ain't free. Especially on the podcast. I'm not going to riff on Andy with you. I know. Pay 20 bucks for my cameo and I might. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:46 This shit ain't free. Especially on the podcast one. Yeah, come on. Yeah. People are so soft now. It goes to the euphoria thing. It's like, oh, they're glamorizing sex and drugs. It's like, no, the point is it's bad. I don't know why people are taking comedy so seriously now.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Because everybody's boring. Millennials are boring. It's sad. They write songs about their dog now, and they change words to be cute. They don't want to talk. They say adulting. They're scared to make doctor's appointments.
Starting point is 00:17:15 You know what I mean? They probably wait until the mailman's on the elevator until they go get their mail so they don't have to run into them. And they say floofer. Millennials are so corny, dude. Do you think they lost their work ethic? God, we're old now.
Starting point is 00:17:28 We're not old. We are millennials. I know. But I didn't lose... But I'm a... We're talking about the archetypal millennial. Okay, what is that? So it's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:38 I don't think they're lazy, though. I think that's a bullshit thing that the boomers say. Yeah. I think they have to work way harder than people think to survive yeah exactly because you can't afford houses anymore we can't fucking afford rent we gotta have four jobs to get something to fucking happen it's like start a podcast gotta start a fucking podcast and a dance party out here shilling whiskey you know what i mean like you're out here redoing led zeppelin songs i have a cult you have a cult like like my dad didn't have to start a cult.
Starting point is 00:18:05 He just got a job. Yeah, why? He just went in the military and he got a job. Now you got to start a fucking cult to make money? My grandpa was a chemical engineer. I had to start a cult to make money. Why are you guys making me do this? Just give me health care.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Just give me health care. They're like, I love that meme of like... Nickgerlockscult.org. I do have merch. What? Nick, yeah, go to Nick's merch table. Oh my God. I like how people are like, I like those memes going around like, we're building a hotel in space.
Starting point is 00:18:36 We literally just want healthcare. What happens when nerds get too much money? We've been over this. I know. It's fucked up. There should be, if you're a nerd in high school, once you make $100 million, you're done. You have $100 million, the rest goes to charity. Go home. Not even the government.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Some charity. Some private charity. Yeah. Go home. Fuck. I got, I have to, I got to take care of myself this week
Starting point is 00:18:57 because I know it's my birthday. Oh my God, yeah. What are we going to do about this? When do you leave? Wednesday? I leave Wednesday. Fuck. Oh man,
Starting point is 00:19:02 I got a couple days off from you. I know. My girlfriend's going out of town. What am I going to do, Nick? I know they're going to just try to trash me. I'm going to come Friday and hang out, and I'll just ward them off. Be my bodyguard. Should I bring my horn?
Starting point is 00:19:15 Yeah. I won't even charge you. What? Is that my birthday gift? If you want to throw me some cash, give me a ride. Speaking of cash, Repsy.com. Hey, because it's my birthday, do you want to do me some cash, give me a ride. Speaking of cash, Repsy.com. Hey, because it's my birthday, do you want to do the ad?
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yeah. For my birthday gift? Yeah. Birthday parties are hot right now. Yeah. Might need a DJ for it or a band even. Depending on how rich you are.
Starting point is 00:19:37 If you're on Repsy, you're probably rich. Sign up for Repsy.com. Because they have some great artists. But also... But your main high fee is... No. You do it. Repsy.com. Because they have some great artists. But also, you do it. Repsy.com. I don't like doing that.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Why not? No, I'm just kidding. He's like, I don't get paid on this podcast. You're just better at it. Repsy.com. Do you have a band? Are you a wedding planner?
Starting point is 00:19:59 Are you a venue that isn't owned by Live Nation or AG? I like AG. I like AG. Live Nation's cool too. I mean, they did book your whole tour in the fall. Live Nation did, we did do a owned by Live Nation or AG. I like AG. I like AG. Live Nation's cool, too. I mean, they did Book Your Own Tour in the fall. Live Nation did.
Starting point is 00:20:08 We did do a lot of Live Nation shows this summer. But if you're just an independent venue owner and you need some bands to play, sign up for Repsy.com and bands. Sign up for Repsy.com. Get DJ Sleepy in there. Let's get the connections.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Yeah. Dude, DJ Sleepy is gigging without me. Good. I love that Scott's taking gigs away from me. Do I need to go to rehab? No. No? I don't think I'm that bad, right? I watch Euphoria. Are you an
Starting point is 00:20:36 alcoholic? And I listen to Elizabeth Cook. I think I'm an... I'm not qualified to tell someone if they need to go to rehab or not, especially while being recorded. I don't think I need to go to rehab. I'm just talking friend to friend. Like, do you think I drink a lot? I think you drink less than people think you drink.
Starting point is 00:20:50 I think you drink more than you should. Yeah. You're somewhere in that range. I'm in the middle. I don't think it's rehab bad. Maybe just cut back a little. Like, I could probably eat less junk food, you know? You don't need to go to rehab for it.
Starting point is 00:21:00 No, but I should cut back a little, you know? So, moderation. What makes you a sex addict? I've been thinking about that. I get these urges. Yeah, but what makes that different than a normal? That's a thing. Maybe that's true.
Starting point is 00:21:15 But I'm not trying to say sex addiction isn't real either. I don't know. It's way worse than it was. I've been able to control it. I used to not be able to control it. To the point where you would just have sex with anyone that was interested in having sex with you? Yeah. So that's...
Starting point is 00:21:31 Because like Tiger Woods is a sex addict, right? What was he doing? Oh, like fucking... He was just all over the place. Everybody. That's like when he got in that wreck and all that. But I feel like there is sex addiction, but I also feel like there's some celebrities out there that get caught doing stuff. And it's kind of shitty what they do to real sex addicts,
Starting point is 00:21:46 and they say they're a sex addict. Yeah. And it kind of, I don't think you're doing that, but people that get Me Too'd or caught in something, they'll use that as an excuse, and it's like, oh, cool, you just threw all these sex addicts that don't assault people under the bus.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Right. That's my take on that. I don't think I'm a sex addict, but... I'm just saying, how do you know when you're a sex addict and you're not just a dude? I know. I get these crazy bender horniness where I'll have to beat off 20 times. I mean, how much are you exaggerating by 20 times?
Starting point is 00:22:23 What, like in a week? 20 times. So like four in a week? 20 times. So like four times a day. Those are rookie numbers, brother. Like, I don't know what happened. It's like, it kind of like, I could feel my body. It's like the same thing. I normally don't smoke.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Or should we put this in the promo? I normally don't. I could tell when my body's turning into that angsty anxiety because I'll have the craves right when I wake up to have a cigarette. Maybe you need to be in an open relationship. What do you mean? Where you have a ride-or-die girlfriend,
Starting point is 00:22:57 but you can have side stuff on the road and stuff like that. I tried that. That didn't work. People do that, and it's healthy for some people, I think. Yeah. I mean, I'm not jealous, but I'm also jealous. A lot of them do go sideways after a while.
Starting point is 00:23:09 What? Although a lot of them do go, the ones I know that have done it, they do go sideways after a while, some of them. Right. You know? You ever relapse on, like,
Starting point is 00:23:17 say, anything? Food? Like, do you ever just eat a bunch of fucking food? No, like I told you earlier, like, when I quit smoking cigarettes, I haven't had one since that one day. What you do when you quit smoking how much did you eat i was already pretty fat and eating all the time so like what was your day like what'd you fill it with i i don't know i don't know nothing i just smoke more weed probably yeah but uh you
Starting point is 00:23:37 know i just quit one night it was like right when i moved to denver and it sucks here yeah i smoked like two packs a week right and one time i was just like this is gross and i threw him in the trash can and i've never in a dumpster it's not my in my house out in the parking lot so you can't go get it yeah and i haven't had one since it's crazy what i'm saying is i have an extreme willpower i normally do too it's just sometimes i relapse into like either blacking out for five days or like you know getting extremely horny and just like wanting to come all the time i don't have yeah maybe it's a depression thing maybe you just yeah maybe it's like maybe that's what it is when i when i get my depression waves i feel like i
Starting point is 00:24:18 need something to cope it's a hormonal thing maybe yeah i need to figure out when that happens i need to start going back to the gym and start going back into like regular habits because like i felt myself falling back into or maybe the old habits i had maybe more than depression oh yeah and i look at my phone i'm like i don't even know what i'm looking for i'm like waiting for something yeah your phone you got too much screen time going on you want to know it's gross you want to see how much phone screen time i had this week can i guess for a week yeah and then we'll get to our show we've already been talking for 30 minutes i know but this is a good one um how much do you think how much screen time for the week yeah 23 hours no a day oh a day a day. A weekly average. So it adds up every time you go and come back.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I don't know. Four and a half hours a day. Oh, I'm down 56% from last week. What? That's because you went to Cervantes. Oh, it's Sunday. No. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:19 It's only been this week for six hours. And I've been hungover for three of them. Oh, this is disgusting. Let me hear it. Last week. What do you thinkover for three of them. Oh, this is disgusting. Let me hear it. Last week, what do you think it is, average? Per day? Per day.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I'm going to say five and a half. Five and a half hours? What is it? Worth? Twelve and a half hours. Oh, my. Of screen time. I didn't know that was even a phone could do that. I spent two hours a week
Starting point is 00:25:47 on Barstool Sportsbook gambling now. I've spent- I told you, you're not allowed to gamble. Oh my God, this is disgusting. You're not allowed to gamble, dude. Last week, I spent 44 minutes last week on youporn.com. And I don't, I come, that's what I'm telling you the relapse
Starting point is 00:26:05 how do you find this it's on your screen time so I've spent I spent an hour only an hour last week on Bumble I spent
Starting point is 00:26:12 two hours on our Fantasy Basketball League I spent 22 hours and 51 minutes last week on Instagram how many hours
Starting point is 00:26:23 22 hours. And I've spent 20 hours messaging everyone back on my text messages. No, that can't be right. I swear, dude. Oh my God. I am disgusted with myself.
Starting point is 00:26:39 You see this? Seven hours on NickGurluxCult.com. Damn, dude. Isn't that gross? What are we going to do about this? I need to get off my phone. This has to be a source of your anxiety. It is.
Starting point is 00:26:49 I can't believe I spent 44 minutes on you porn. Here's the thing, though. Here's my pushback on this. People are texting you. People are always contacting you and stuff. So how do we... Like I missed 84 text messages within the 30 minutes. And they're not even like group texts.
Starting point is 00:27:04 No. I'm trapped. If I your that people made people texting me i would lose my fucking i get anxiety now and like now like i've been learning like it was like at it was at your show too my filler of taking because basically when i go out now it's just me having conversations with everyone and taking pictures. And I don't even get to enjoy the moment sometimes. Yeah, you're very famous, Andy. No, I just go to Cervantes in my scene. But I'm not trying to like. People love you.
Starting point is 00:27:36 It's just more of like I'm available. You're available. You're very like Bert Kreischer in that way. He had that thing where fans would just start showing up to his house and all these people had his phone number. I was like, oh, that's so fresh. I got to call Bert and talk about this. You should call him back.
Starting point is 00:27:51 How do you... I think he has a probably similar phone thing than you. He has a burner. I need a burner. You need a burner. I think you're famous enough for a burner, buddy. I think we've done it. I am disgusted that I was on Instagram for 22...
Starting point is 00:28:03 What? For what? Andy Frasco is famous enough to have a burner phone now. There's only two reasons to have a burner. You're super famous or you're doing illegal shit. Fuck, dude. What do I do? I need to get off Instagram.
Starting point is 00:28:18 I'm on Instagram too much. Yes. I think that's what's giving me anxiety. At least you're not on Facebook. No, I don't go on Facebook at all that's the dregs it's just boomers arguing about the most basic political stuff you've ever heard in your life it's like a cnn comment session we have to end this episode in the episode we're gonna have a great week we're gonna have a great week it's my birthday i'm turning 34 what and we got screwball Whiskey. Oh, yeah. Our sponsor, Screwball.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Hell, yeah. I would drink it right now, but I can't drink. My head is spinning. But Screwball Whiskey. Peanut butter whiskey. It tastes organic like whole foods. Yeah. And we are doing a hashtag called Screw Frasco where you take pictures.
Starting point is 00:29:02 You can razz me. You can rip me up. You can make fun of me, too, if you want. You can make fun of Nick. I'd love to see a Nick Gerlach impression. Yeah, if you got a Nick Gerlach impression, you got a Frasco impression, hashtag Screw Frasco and tag Screwball Whiskey. And the one with the best video,
Starting point is 00:29:17 we're going to give them free tickets to our concert. We're giving out a pride package of Screwball stuff. I'll do something. Yes. Nick's going to make you a cameo. Yeah, yeah, whatever. I'll do something. Yes. Nick's going to, yeah, he'll make you a cameo. Yeah, yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 00:29:27 So, let's get this going. Let's have fun with it. I'm so thankful that, it is good. We're just not drinking because it's like 1130. It's 1130.
Starting point is 00:29:34 I would normally drink and I already, I drink just alcohol. I'm disgusted by alcohol. I actually drank a lot for me this weekend. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:29:41 we've ripped it up. I went to your show at New Conscious that started at midnight, didn't end till 3.30, 4 o'clock. Yeah. And then I had a two o'clock rehearsal. Then you had a two o'clock rehearsal. And then I just kept it going. Kept it going. And I just kept, kept, kept it going. Sometimes it's better to keep it rolling though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:57 But sometimes that train's got to stop somewhere. And it stopped today. And it stopped at Frasco Station. And after this is done, we're going to make Benny's little cooking show. And then I got to have dinner with Scott. And then I am going to watch Euphoria. And then I'm going to go to bed. Well, let's have a great week. Thanks for cheering me up because I was dreading. I was like, fucking, oh, God, I'm going to sound like a piece of shit today.
Starting point is 00:30:24 But I'm going to have a great birthday. I appreciate that. And thanks for letting me. That's why I'm a good co-host. And yeah, thanks for hearing. I love when people make fun of me for being the co-host. Enjoy the kitchen dwellers.
Starting point is 00:30:36 No. We've been talking for 40 minutes. Oh, we can go long. It's just a kitchen dweller. It's just bluegrass. Don't even have a drummer. Kitchen dwellers are putting out a new record
Starting point is 00:30:46 so we're gonna manage them right yeah we had them at the show so it'll be fun i like dc honey all right let's we're done we're gonna have a great week bye i'm gonna feel good i'm not gonna go on instagram i'm not gonna put nitrous into my body once this tank is over and then um i'm gonna take a couple days off from drinking and then i'm gonna go to have my birthday and this is the first time i felt old 34 i don't know why you look young i feel young i feel good but i just like been i had that epiphany when that when the the younger generation of dj people dj listeners were at scott's show and they're like what are you guys listening to what are you dancing to i'm What are you dancing to? I'm like, we're listening to DMX. We're listening to some of the most popular
Starting point is 00:31:28 songs in recorded music history. You loser. You are wrong. You are the one who is wrong. You are young. I am not old. You are young and inexperienced. Well, enjoy Kitchen Dwellers and to be continued. You want to close this out with me? TBC, baby. And thanks for all the
Starting point is 00:31:43 birthday wishes. We're going long. We're going long. People like it. Yeah. All right. Goodbye. All right. Next up on the interview hour is our friends, Kitchen Dwellers, all the way from Montana.
Starting point is 00:32:03 That's where they're from? I didn't know that, actually. They're badass. Kid and Drellers are putting on a new record. They came over the house. They just played the Ogden. They're getting really big in Colorado. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And I love bluegrass, and as I go more and more into the bluegrass world, this band's one of the best bands out there. I honestly thought they were from Boulder this whole time. Really? Yeah, they do play Colorado a lot. They're so there. I honestly thought they were from Boulder this whole time. Really? Yeah, they do play Colorado a lot. They're so big here. I thought they were local.
Starting point is 00:32:30 And they're manned by our boy, Dave DeCiani. Let's go, Dave. You're killing it with Goose Pigeons. When's their auction show? Kitchen Dwellers. They already had it when I was here. But they play here every fucking two months. I want to go see them. Yeah, we should go out.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Take me with you. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, enjoy my conversation with the kitchen dwellers and uh i'll catch you on the tail end with my boy nick gerlach hell yeah hot Well, fuck yeah. Sync it up. How you doing?
Starting point is 00:33:08 We're doing good. What's life like being the kitchen dwellers? Hang out at your place. Use the mic. We get to hang out at your place. Life is tight, but we're still figuring shit out. Life is great, but we're still working on microphones. No, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:33:24 God, you guys were so busy during quarantine. I felt like you guys inspired me to work hard you were doing all the zoom parties you were doing touring we were touring yes and then we did the streaming yes and then you just went on the road and like kept it going like what drives you to keep going through a pandemic uh man i don't know for a while there we all just like you know kind of like everyone just kind of sat in our houses and just like wondered like what what the fuck do we do with all this extra time right and then uh at some point what those guys over there gave me a call dc on a call dave dc on a everybody shout out you guys want to work big dick dave in the building tonight wow he's here folks he's here good manager in the flush and uh and dave called me um because i think i was the only one that was like at home like everyone
Starting point is 00:34:21 was kind of all over the place doing their own thing. Cause we had like a break from tour. Swain was in Iceland. Actually he was on vacation. He almost got stuck in Iceland. Oh my God. That would have been a whole different chemistry if he got stuck for like those six months. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:35 He like, he like made it on like the last plane out of Iceland. He said there was like a while where we thought he might not come. They might. So what, what were those texts is like, what's that? What were those texts? Like, Hey, I'm stuck in we thought he might not come. They might. So what, what were those texts is like, what's that? What were those texts?
Starting point is 00:34:46 Like, Hey, I'm stuck in Iceland. I might not, I might not be back. I might not be back. Uh, they were canceling.
Starting point is 00:34:52 He said he was just like sitting there. He's watching all the flights getting canceled. And then somehow has made it out. Yeah. It was like the last, the last flight to us. It was like Ricky Vic to LA, like canceled.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Oh my God. God. And it went down all the, all the way to Boston. And they put him on a flight to Boston. Think about was like Ricky Vic to LA, like canceled. Oh my God. God. And it went down all the way to Boston and they put him on a flight to Boston. Think about how lonely that would have been being quarantined. It probably like, how, what does it,
Starting point is 00:35:13 how does he afford anything? You know, how does he afford a house or do people put them up? Like, does the hotel put them up? Like all those questions like that, that's gotta be fucked up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Yeah. That's a lot. Yeah. That's a lot. Yeah. That's a lot of questions to try and answer. So he gets home, he gets home. You guys take a couple months off, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Was it good? Was a couple months good? It was great. Yeah. I mean, at first, at first it was cause we, you know, we're going so hard and I mean, the circumstances were awful yeah you know a break was it was like it was a change yeah we've been touring pretty hard for several years at that point i bet joe loved the break you're like a mountain man aren't you dude the break was probably one of the best things that ever happened to me in my life at the point in time why just because we've been going so hard
Starting point is 00:36:00 and i think i was just like longing for that home vibe in my life. Definitely missed that part. Were you feeling burnt out by the end of the year tour season? I wasn't feeling burned out. I just felt like I was missing something in my life. Like what? Home. Yeah. Bed.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Yeah, bed, dog. You married? Yeah. You have a dog? You have a whole family? No kids yet, but. Soon. Yeah, a lot of plants.
Starting point is 00:36:24 We've got a lot of plants. Those are your children yeah so how long did it take until you wanted to get back on the road or were you starting getting comfortable with the home life we stayed so busy during the pandemic it was almost like we were like we were working damn near as hard as when we were right on the road and i think we were fortunate because we all live in the same proximity. We could all like be part of the same, like COVID bubble in a sense and still work our asses off. We're one of the very few bands, at least that I know that like we're a bands that we're friends with that.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Like we all live in the same town still. So how do you guys not hate each other? That's a great question. I don't know. You know, it's like, you would not say that in like a weird way. It's just like when you spend your whole time together on a van.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Oh, yeah. And then you go home and you still see the same motherfuckers. Yeah, yeah. It's like you're still on tour a little bit. Luckily, there's lots of space in Montana. There's, you know, you can get outside and go and not have to see anybody, any humans. Yeah. Depending on where you go.
Starting point is 00:37:24 So that's probably a factor, I imagine. From doing that tour with you guys when we did those national parks, the streaming, that was when I really, I felt like we became friends. Yeah. And what I realized from that is like, how much you guys yearn from that. Like you fucking love, is that the right word?
Starting point is 00:37:41 Yearn? How much you guys love that? Sure, sure. You need that in your life. I don't know about you, Max. Was that part of your vibe too? You're a city kitty, right? Well, I grew up in Illinois,
Starting point is 00:37:57 but no, I mean, I've lived in Montana for a while now. Yeah, that's why it was sweet to do the national park thing because it was like, we were able to go be where we all like to spend time and play music for people yeah like how how important is the outdoors to the type of music you guys are trying to write very very for sure it's always a factor i think he's like joe's from alaska he. He's from southeast Alaska. So he grew up on
Starting point is 00:38:26 the coast fishing. Like shitting in holes and shit? We went out and visited. We played Alaska and we went and basically saw where he grew up. You guys did Alaska tour? Yeah. In your hometown? We didn't play an official show. It was kind of hard to work out a real show. So we played an open mic and then just where you grew up and you guys did Alaska tour. Yeah. Yeah. In your hometown.
Starting point is 00:38:46 He didn't play an official show. It's kind of hard to work out a real show. So we played an open mic and then just like played for a whole night at an open mic. But, and we played, we played a festival up there at salmon fest, but, uh,
Starting point is 00:38:54 what was it like going back to your hometown? It was awesome. I mean, I like ever since this band started, like that was like, I want to get them up there, like get them up there so bad. So we finally made it happen.
Starting point is 00:39:03 And it was, it was cool. What did you, want to get him up there so bad so we finally made it happen and it was it was cool what did you what did you guys see in joe that you didn't see before from going to his hometown and seeing his friends and seeing all that stuff well a lot of things about joe made sense like complete lack of awareness of any pop culture so and this is common throughout throughout uh a lot of alaska kids went to school in bozeman in college where we all met and a lot of them are from juneau and like grew up with joe and we found this to be congruent across the board that kids from alaska
Starting point is 00:39:40 clearly did not have the same childhood as the rest of us did for obvious reasons but also in the you know they get tv and internet and stuff up there and so but we you could like throw out like a Nick at night reference and Joe or any of his friends Noah Starr and then what what other reference does he have right away? Right away? Well, he did think the third Jurassic Park was the best in the franchise. All right. Respect. Respect. I'll give you that.
Starting point is 00:40:10 I like that one, too. Oh, yeah. I like that one, too. I did. Well, I think it was Jurassic Park 3. Yeah. That's what I said. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:18 With, like, the weird, like, chicken-looking dinosaur. Yes. Does that make sense? Yeah. Look like a rooster. The little ones. The big ones, too. Yeah. Which is, that a rooster? The big one too. That was a different reaction that most people get. I think the first time we heard him say that, Swain just went
Starting point is 00:40:31 the audacity. Swain's like how dare you? First of all, how dare you? It must have been easier to really dive into music if you didn't have anything distracting you. I definitely played music like my whole life,
Starting point is 00:40:48 but I don't know if it was, there was a lot to distract you up there. I mean, there's a whole world that doesn't really exist in a lot of other places. So we got to get outside and do a lot of stuff outside. Did it distract you or no? It just seemed like you're, you're a badass.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I would say so. Um, but music was definitely part of my childhood there's a really good community music community there there is yeah like pick in and stuff um yeah there's a thing called the alaska folk fest which has like jams all over town throughout a throughout a week in the spring and people come in from all over the world for that it's a good little oh my god i have so many questions about living in alaska do you like do you go on trips where like you're like by yourself um i don't know if i've ever done like a solo solo trip or like with a your lady or whatever yeah yeah go out i mean we we
Starting point is 00:41:36 go like camping in the middle of nowhere all the time what about like fucking bears and shit yeah there's bears all over there's lots of bears in alaska but they're not as aggressive as the grizzly bears in the lower 48. Yeah, they're a different breed. Like, I don't have the same fear of brown bears up there as the grizzly bears here. There's just a different kind of aggression with them. You ever any, like, experience of, like, almost getting, like, this is a scary moment in the wild?
Starting point is 00:42:02 Dude, what about the story with mapes and the black pepper what nah you might know the story better than i do so he's he's uh his stepdad craig mapes who we went to visit up there um mapes and joe's mom live on this island off the coast of Juneau called Chichagoff Island. And it's like the most remote I've ever been at easily. And I grew up in Montana. So, but you're out on this island and you're like kind of in the like ocean, like the sound, which you call that inlet and then Chad straights out there.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Yeah. And so Mavis was telling us this story that that he like they were out hunting deer on one of the islands next to the island that joe's parents live on and they shoot this deer and then maves is with this kid that you guys know he's like your age but like he he was out with maves at the time the kid was like 12 at the time. That's Rudy. Rudy. I remember the story now. Yeah. And so,
Starting point is 00:43:07 so what happened? Yeah. You'll tell it better than me. Okay. So trying to be polite. To be continued. Yeah. To be continued.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Uh, no. So they, so they, you know, they cut up this deer and they get ready to pack it off this Island. And all of a sudden there's all these bears around and they're kind of circling them and following them through, this timber and and uh and you know
Starting point is 00:43:28 kind of circling around because they want that deer carcass and so the kid that's with joe's stepdad all of a sudden thinks like we're gonna put black pepper on this deer meat and that smell is gonna confuse these bears and so they put black pepper on this on a piece of deer meat and that smell is going to confuse these bears and so they put black pepper on this on a piece of deer meat and lay it on the ground and leave it but take the rest with them and they leave and this bear comes up and sniffs this meat and like inhales all this pepper and it like confuses he loses their scent and they're able to like get off of this island and it was babes were telling the story and i thought it was his idea alaska dude that's what i'm fucking talking about people are stronger out there
Starting point is 00:44:11 i will not survive an apocalypse i swear joe will fucking survive an apocalypse oh my god what about okay so like you're writing music you're thinking about all these stories of like and you know you're a big camper too right yeah i always see you always roaming like like fucking you seem like you know the terminology yeah what when you're writing lyrics like yeah like i want to go back to that like how important is the outdoors to what you're trying to do and what you're trying to write about i think it's pretty pivotal for everyone in this band just because of the way that we were all kind of raised and and grew up and it's like it's not necessarily that we like reach for it when we're writing because that seems to be kind of like the bluegrass thing is like
Starting point is 00:45:03 you're you know you're it's always like there's some sort of natural element that a lot of songwriters if it's not coming naturally to you to them they're kind of reaching for it like i want this to be that sort of like mountain sound or or something like that and i don't know if that's the way that any of us write songs but it is kind of always an element there and i think that's just because of the reality that we grew up with. And it's just a different type of reality than growing up in a city. Totally. So like,
Starting point is 00:45:31 what are like, what are your main themes when you're writing? Main themes. I don't know. A lot of like, I don't know for me, I guess just for me, a lot of,
Starting point is 00:45:44 a lot of themes, like recurring themes is like sort of like the darker into things. I'm like, I'm before I ever played bluegrass, it was really into punk and metal and all that stuff. And then when I got into bluegrass, it was cause of Jeff Austin, which is kind of that same, same sort of element. And also I'm like, you you know in addition to like the outdoors but like also like into like horror movie type stuff and like um you know kind of like those
Starting point is 00:46:13 like outdoorsy legends like indian legends and things like that so i think that's always kind of an element in a lot of stuff that i write but I don't ever try to like make it a certain type of song. Yeah. You know, it's just kind of whatever, just whatever comes. Is it harder for you to write stories about other people versus stories about yourself? I don't know. I've never, I don't know. I've never thought about that.
Starting point is 00:46:40 I have a really hard time writing about myself. I find it way easier to write about other people because I have a hard time being honest with myself i think what what do you think stems that um i don't know insecurity maybe you afraid to be the person that you see with not people around you maybe i don't feel like i'm that much different a lot of the time, but I think just talking about like the past is hard to be honest about everything. Yeah. I agree, man.
Starting point is 00:47:11 It's like, I don't know. Like I like shake sometimes when I think about the person I used to be, like, I kind of have this like, I like convulsion where it's like, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:47:24 I'm embarrassed of who I used to be, but also like, I wouldn't be where I am now and realizing my faults. Yeah. Without, without that, doing all that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:36 So it's, it is such a tricky thing. Insecurity. Like, uh, what are you most insecure about? I don't know. Bears.
Starting point is 00:47:48 It's a tough question. I don't know either. I don't know. What about you, Maximus? Wow, you're getting deep here. What am I most insecure about? I patted your back with bear stories. Now we're going deep.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Yeah, now we're taking a dive. We're like, come on in to the dark world with bears. Yeah, I don't know. I haven't thought that much about my insecurities, I suppose. Yeah, isn't it weird how we think about all the other things in our life, but when it comes to us, we don't know. We barely know ourselves as much as that's basically how i approach every day that i don't know probably much of anything and do you think that makes us happier uh it makes getting through the
Starting point is 00:48:37 day a lot easier yeah that's what i'm saying like ignorance is bliss in a way because when we were kids yeah i remember like not thinking about any of this shit. I was happy as fuck. The minute I started thinking about like, Oh, people could be depressed and people can be insecure and people could be overthinking what other people thinks of us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Then I started getting sad and like fucking insecure about myself. Yeah. What do you think it is? Just living? Do you think we have to experience that? More experiences. The more, I mean mean if you live your life long enough there are going to be plenty of experiences that will be probably hard to shake you know who you you were telling me about a book uh relentless relentless i feel like this is like the psychology of finding your your most potential
Starting point is 00:49:22 as an athlete as a musician out of, of anything, right? Yeah. And what do you, what, what are the things he mostly says about finding your full potential? Uh, well, just being kind of unapologetic in your, uh, your pursuit. Um, and just how, I mean, he was talking about athletes, but how, you know, certain athletes in order to perform at the level that they are, they are so determined and will not take no for an answer. And they just push past where the average person would probably quit. Yeah. What about us? I mean, we're kind of doing that.
Starting point is 00:50:03 We toured through a pandemic. We, we made everything work. We played zoom parties. I saw you motherfuckers do like a hundred zoom parties or something. We were on tour, but we were in our own. Shout out to DC.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Let's go make it the boys money wherever you can. But it's gotta be hard. Like it's gotta be a mind fuck. Right? Like the whole thing is music, you know? And like whatever it takes to keep the music going is how we're going to approach your career,
Starting point is 00:50:34 how you're going to approach your passion. So why can we do that as for our individual mental health? That's, that's a good point. Cause I think that's how, that's kind of how I treat what we do just as far as like keeping it going and being able to make things work when it seems like they're not going to work out and right you know doing doing uh what's good you know for for the band and and
Starting point is 00:51:01 what's gonna you know get us in front of a lot of people and, and make us connect with more people across the country. That's kind of how I treat that for sure is kind of, or try to with that like relentless sort of attitude. Even though at times it is very difficult. It's gotta be right. I think just the way the career is built in general, just the music business and stuff, it can be hard.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Not that I am complaining or in a position to complain at all. I think this is like the dream for sure. But the dream could also be hard. It's like that idea Max said, the idea where we have to give our whole selves to even be the 1% who, who's fortunate enough to do this every day. Yes. You know, music, not a lot of people make it in music. No. So it's like, yeah, I appreciate the being fortunate, but in it, it's gotta be, it's the hardest when you're
Starting point is 00:51:58 giving 120% to something that is for other people. Yeah. you know it's like where are we where are we like we gotta leave some for us this is why i'm fucking let's go to alaska yeah you know what i'm saying like we need that other side and that's why i could get why you were burnt out i get why we were all burnt out like yes when i talked to musicians about the quarantine they're like it was a relief we finally breathed yeah you know take the money away fuck the money right now yeah for your own personal growth like we breathed we finally breathed and took a second to like oh yeah there's stuff outside of the van and yeah loves gas stations and stuff fact so what made so from that have you worked harder or did you are you taking more time for
Starting point is 00:52:54 yourselves now after the quarantine because you guys are working your dicks off i well i feel like things got a little more like organized maybe because we we started renting a spot in town like a little studio where we keep all of our gear uh we have like merch there and that basically became like a daily office like we go in there every day and we work on stuff so things definitely became a little more a little more like organized and that's i mean being in a band is that easier a little more organizations yeah for sure yeah we i mean at least uh yeah from a personal standpoint um it definitely like made it a little easier on me to like you know kind of compartmentalize that part of my life and be able to go someplace during
Starting point is 00:53:44 the day and and be like i'm gonna work on this because i need to work on it but at a certain point i'm gonna walk away yeah and i'm gonna go home that's the problem about having your work office in your house yeah you're hearing a lot of that right now people working from home yeah it's kind of hard on people right yeah i would assume so i think that's the best part about being a musician is like we make all our money being so far away from home yeah then we could come home and we could actually appreciate it like the stillness yep what was the first moment where all this hard work like what was it a show was it a record that you guys were like damn our our work is paying off i think for for me it was a lot of like the people that we've been able to work with
Starting point is 00:54:31 yeah like the you know the first album was we worked with andy thorne and we were like holy shit yeah thorne likes me dude he was on kelly clarkson do you see that i know i saw that shit today what was that about i was telling them right all came. Like this motherfucker's on Kelly Clarkson talking about foxes. Yeah. I'm like, this guy's like, all right, good going.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Blowing up. But yeah, like, I mean that, uh, when Dave helped us get to red rocks, like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:54:58 fuck. Yeah. Dude. Yeah. That was an amazing moment. Yeah. Yeah. Sick.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Yep. Fuck. Yeah. Dale clap. Yeah. Let's go, Dave. Let's go go dave let's go dave let's fucking go let's fucking go but even just like you know sometimes we'd have like a killer show with so when you're at red rock and it was great when we had red rocks did you guys have that moment where you guys all looked at each other like on stage like yeah i think it was right after uh
Starting point is 00:55:24 there was actually this is actually pretty good this is a pretty good story uh it was right after, uh, there was actually, this is actually pretty good. This is a pretty good story. Uh, so, uh, right after red rocks, they like, you like get, you know, you get done and you, you like go to your, your like back green room stuff. And we like, we all had a moment together. Right. And it was like, awesome. Like fucking well done boys. Like that was, that was pretty fucking cool. I never dreamed in my wildest dreams that that would ever happen, you know? And, uh, then we go out, you know, they let you out the little, there's a little side door next to the huge stage. And cause all of our parents are there, but like it's Red Rock. So they have to like mitigate who comes in and goes out and whatnot. And so our parents are there and like, everybody's crying. Like everyone is like, it's
Starting point is 00:56:03 like such like a, you know, you know, it's, it's it's it's such a cool moment but so my dad comes up and hugs me and he's like my dad's like i'm so goddamn proud of you and he's crying and so like i kind of start crying and he hugs me and then my mom's right next to him and in between me hugging my dad and hugging my mom like i hug my dad and then go to turn to hug my mom and in between that this wook just like mom and in between that this wook just like squeezes in between them and comes up and hugs me and is like i'm so fucking proud of you man oh my god and my parents are like and my parents are like who is who is this and i'm like i don't know you're like hey bro chill i'm chill. I'm crying with my dad right now.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Yeah. Yeah. But that, yeah, that was a, that was a, that was a great moment. Was it, were your parents there? Yeah. Yeah. Your parents there too? All of them? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:52 All of our parents were there. A bunch of like extended family. What'd your parents do? Were they stoked? Oh yeah. They loved it. Oh my God. I've probably never seen my mom dance so hard.
Starting point is 00:57:03 That's so amazing. Yeah. I was like, I saw my mom in the crowd. She was crying. I'm like, seen my mom dance so hard. That's so amazing. Yeah. I was like, mom, I saw my mom in the crowd. She was crying. I'm like, this one's for fucking you.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Mom, I'm like, I love you. We did it. I'm like, it's just like a, it's like a quarantine. Red Rocks is not even fully packed.
Starting point is 00:57:19 It's like, we fucking did it, mom. We fucking did it. What about your parents? They came out from Alaska? Yeah. Actually, my mom and stepdad came down from Chichagof Island.
Starting point is 00:57:31 And yeah, my dad and stepmom were there too. What'd they say? I mean, they're just, they're stoked. So did you guys have like a bad powwow? Like looked at each other like, wow, what now? What's next? Are your brains like that we're like even when you're in the moment like all right what what are we gonna do now let's let's keep this
Starting point is 00:57:51 let's keep this train popping you know sometimes for sure i feel like some yeah sometimes it's like hard to like is it hard to appreciate that yeah stay in that moment you know i definitely get the imposter syndrome with that kind of stuff yeah tell me about that yeah like what what goes through your head when you're when you're finishing a project or when you're finishing a show or finishing a tour um i think i get it most when there's a lot of people coming to see us where i and i have no idea why that's where i really get like why do you like us like there's 500 people coming to see us in fucking charleston like what what's like i just didn't it doesn't make sense to me yeah um well god joe i'm gonna pump you up right now you're good enough you're strong enough you got all the fucking tools you're hot as fuck you
Starting point is 00:58:38 fucking eat salmon with your your teeth god damn you get you kill with your teeth, God damn it. You kill them with your teeth. You shouldn't be ashamed of being successful. I don't know if you're ashamed of it, but yeah. I'm not ashamed. It's just I still don't believe it. Yeah. Isn't it crazy?
Starting point is 00:58:53 I don't believe it either. Like, I don't believe that I'm successful. I don't know if that's just my mechanism to keep working because once I feel like I've done something, I move on or something in a sense. I don't know if that makes any sense yeah yeah for sure it's hard for me to appreciate the moment but yeah when i'm in it because i'm always thinking about tomorrow or the next but
Starting point is 00:59:16 like when you're in a situation like red rocks your fucking parents are there yeah and a wook steals a hug from you and your dad yeah he's like papa hey papa we're having our moment and they're like hey brother we got ketamine in the back over there no it's gotta be fucking tough but um that's exciting boys and i want to talk about this what are you excited about this yes we are excited about this this is actually the first time we've seen it it's hot it's hot we want to touch it yeah i got this before y'all done hot off the press i know that is uh touch it touch it it's your record that's awesome why wise river uh wise river kind of came uh came from the song so we had this like uh this songwriting uh session where we went up, we were on tour like before COVID and we went up way north.
Starting point is 01:00:10 We had a few days off and we went like, we were in Maine and we went like way north in Maine, like almost to Canada. To write it? We were just like working on songs and we were just like, this is what we want to do. We had a couple of days off. And we're like,
Starting point is 01:00:22 you know, this is kind of building on the fact that we're a weird band and we were just going for some isolation. Let's go. And, uh, so we got this cabin on the beach and it was like, it was freezing.
Starting point is 01:00:35 It was so fucking cold. The ocean was freezing. And, uh, but the first song that came out of it was a song wise river, um, that Sean wrote. And it was from him and one of our buddies going to they went on
Starting point is 01:00:47 like a camping trip um and they've stopped it there's a little town in uh in montana south of butte called wise river um and they just like stopped into this uh this uh saloon this wise river club and it's like this old cowboy saloon. And it's been the same way as far as I can remember. Um, it's the only thing. And I mean, it's,
Starting point is 01:01:11 it's like the, you know, the sign looks like it's the town of wise river, but it's just this little corner saloon in a post office. Where'd you find this place? Um, I'd been there as a kid, um,
Starting point is 01:01:22 with my parents, uh, back in the day on like fishing trips and stuff. Yeah. Um, I'd been there as a kid, um, with my parents, uh, back in the day on like fishing trips and stuff. Yeah. Um, and I think Sean just went there as he was starting to sort of get into the outdoors, um, with his buddy Brad. And, uh, and so that, since that was like the first song we were, and we were like,
Starting point is 01:01:40 well, you know, we kind of have this like outdoors Montana theme that's kind of always occurring within our band, you know we kind of have this like outdoors montana theme that's kind of always occurring within our band you know and there's a there's a lot of recurring themes like that so that's just what the album ended up being called do you all write lyrics yeah we all write so what do you what what were you guys writing about what's this record about is it all different from your collective of i mean it's kind of all different but the one thing that i sort of thought about with it being you know the name wise river because we most of it was written worked on and recorded all kind of in like the you know the heart of the during quarantine during quarantine basically but i you know i i feel like it kind of lent itself to a lot of people were having to confront a lot of things in their life you know
Starting point is 01:02:25 there was a lot of tragedy tragedy and people were just also like so many life changes for people like work and home so i feel like you know it it's also kind of uh commenting on just how you know we're hopefully coming out of this everyone is a little bit wiser yeah yeah and it was yeah it was it's definitely like a vibe for the the state of the world or at least our world i guess at the time and it's definitely the one that we've worked like the most cohesively on there's nothing in this fucking place dude damn town yeah yeah when when we uh joe you are rubbing off on these dudes we filmed there and uh and like half of that photo was on fire there was a huge fire there and we filmed a video there a video there yeah um there was a big forest fire there um cory wong produced it yeah yeah so that was another part so what the fuck you skipped that
Starting point is 01:03:25 so we cory wong produced a bluegrass record yeah yes and uh and that kind of came from um i guess he'd kind of like heard of us and and wanted he'd wanted to do a project with a string band or you know a folk band bluegrass band for a while this is so cool he's the man and he's awesome yeah and and it worked and it worked out it's um for the best i think he what what did you learn from him producing we never worked with anyone like in, I mean the, uh, the pace at which we were fast, we recorded it in Minneapolis and we were, I mean,
Starting point is 01:04:11 I, I couldn't stop laughing when we were recording. Cause like they're, they're at the console and it's like, it's a table and a keyboard and a monitor. And just seeing like the table is like, yeah, yeah. Dude, he seems like that. Oh yeah. Oh, and he's one is like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Dude, he seems like that. Oh yeah. Oh, and he's one, two, three, four. Here we go. And his, and his brain is just, I love that. You can just see the gears turning like the whole time. And, and you know, he's just like, you know, he's just fucking genius when it comes to music. Did you ever get some hang time with him?
Starting point is 01:04:38 We did a little bit. Yeah. At the end. Yeah. And we recorded it all in four days. The whole record. Yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah yeah i look i fuck with that i fuck with that no time over i think overthinking kills process well that was a lot of it too was he he would like he would like stop a lot of that shit short like where someone would be like oh
Starting point is 01:04:59 i didn't feel good about my solo or i didn't feel good about that hit and he was like he was like i'll fix it in post it doesn't he's like he's like it's fine he's like we got what we need it's fine next and just like move right along and i fuck with that and like and like where somebody might tell you like move along you'd be like no motherfucker like i'm gonna let me try again but when it's cory wong it's like all right i guess we're fucking moving along yes sir yes damn what did he teach about soloing, he never solos. He doesn't solo. Yeah, he's a, you know, he's a funk. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:05:27 He's just like diamonds and fucking footballs and fucking. Rhythm. Yeah. Like. Oh, he must have loved the fuck out of you. Oh, you guys are fucking rhythm kings, dude. He, yeah, I think. He was proud.
Starting point is 01:05:41 He had a great time. I think he had a great time. Yeah. Because he must have been proud. No drums, too. Yeah. And you're fucking keeping that. Joe.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I got to clap up for Joe one more time. Yeah. Rhythm God. Joe Funk. Rhythm God. Everybody, Joe Funk. Rhythm God. Let's go, Joe.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Damn. I mean, there are some songs on there. What was the hardest song to record on the record? Maybe Years of My Life? Years of My Life, possibly. there because what was the hardest song to record on the record maybe years of my life possibly but he did a lot of you know there's a lot like he has a little footprint on that thing like some of his production work uh like added some drums yeah we had uh we had somebody record some drums on there um we made somebody record some drums on there. We made a drum track on a song. Wow.
Starting point is 01:06:29 There's a little bit of... We ventured into some newer sounds that are a little atypical. Look at you guys. Yeah. You guys are a real fucking outdoors band, dude. You guys are out here. Nothing. There's nothing here. Google this. Look at this. Google Wise River. Yo, yo, yo. Google Wise Nothing. There's nothing here. Google this.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Look at this. Google Wise River. Yo, yo, yo. Google Wise River. Look at the population. And also, I want to talk. While we're on the computer thing, I heard you tore your ACL, and we have that video. We're popping that bitch out, too.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Because do you have time? Do you guys have time to talk? We have time. Dave, are they fine? We have time. Oh, my God. Okay, I got two other. This is pretty metal. Their names are the trees. Their names are the trees. have time to talk time all right we had time yeah oh my god okay i got two other this name this is
Starting point is 01:07:05 pretty metal so their names are the trees their names are the trees so that is uh that's actually another that's another outdoorsy kind of thing what's that mean um so that actually came from a friend of ours um there was this australian kid uh mitch upton shout out to mitch upton everybody mitch upton shout out yep let's go yep let. Mitch Upton. Shout out Mitch. Yep. Let's go. Yep. Let's go. Yep. And, uh, and if you know anything about Australian people or have any Australian
Starting point is 01:07:31 friends, you know that they're fucking crazy. Oh God. Yes. Um, and, and, and he is,
Starting point is 01:07:36 and he's, he's a gem of a human and, and he was our roommate for a long time and he was one of our biggest supporters when we were in college and stuff. Um, but he went on, so he does like very bad-ass things. Like he went on, so he does very badass things. He went and ski patrolled in the Himalayas,
Starting point is 01:07:49 and he works as a firefighter every summer. And he's probably ski patrolling this, is he doing this winter? In Big Sky, he's working at the ski patrol. And does a lot of, you know. Australian skier. people he does a lot of you know getting people out of sticky situations and stuff um but this particular song their names are the trees um is a pretty heavy story that he told us from working in i think was it northern california or southern Oregon? I think it's Northern California, but there were those fires that were there a couple summers ago that were really bad.
Starting point is 01:08:30 And he was there as an EMT working for these firefighter crews for, like, I think a longer season than he had ever been. Like, he was working there. Like, you know, the fires went, like, late into the fall. Like he, he was working there. Like, you know, the fires went like late into the fall. Um, and there was this one small town, um, called Beachy Creek. Um, and there, um, the, the, this fire, I guess, went down the mountainside as the fire crew got there. And then through the night cut over the the road the only road that
Starting point is 01:09:06 led into town in this canyon and then cut off the town and burned the whole down whole town down um and a bunch of people died and and uh and mitch was our was like one of the people on the scene when this happened um and he and he's also a very accomplished writer he didn't write the songs but he wrote the story and sent us the story sent sean the story and like and but he so he basically saw this like destruction and death and stuff um and the thing and one of the things that like him and sean kind of put together out of it was the fact that in the news, they didn't mention that this town had burned down and they kind of mentioned that the area was on fire. But when it came down to it,
Starting point is 01:09:52 what they were talking about on the news was the names of the trees that were in danger of going extinct from this fire and not necessarily the names of the people in this town that had passed away in like this horrific fire scene. So that is why the song is called Their Names Are The Trees. Jesus. You guys are poets. Sean Swain. That's a Sean Swain song.
Starting point is 01:10:17 So what songs did you write on this record? I wrote Drown, drowning again, um, in sundown and bottom shelf in paradise Valley. What about you, Max? Uh, smokestack.
Starting point is 01:10:33 What about you, Joseph? I get the bike stand at ease and years of my life. God, I love that you guys all right. That's fucking cool. It is cool. And it, it gives us like a a nice i feel like a nice like even keel to the band like you know if i was writing all the songs they might all sound like metal songs yeah and it keeps things very interesting yeah yeah and like
Starting point is 01:10:57 in your fit it probably it's like and everyone like you know your fans love you collectively but like i bet like some fans who love joe or some fans who love Joe or some fans who love Max and Sons, they're like, totally. That's my boy. Let's go get him, Captain. Let's go. Let's go, boy. Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Fuck yeah. So when's his record come out? April 29th. April 29th. You just announced it. You announced it on Tuesday. No, you announced it on Friday. It is Tuesday now.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Yes, it is Tuesday now. Yes. So go grab this April 29th. It looks like it says one of 2, no, you announced it on Friday. It is Tuesday now. Yes, it is Tuesday now. Yes. So go grab this April 29th. It looks like it says one of 2000. So you're only making 2000 of these. Yes. Fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Yeah. Limited edition people buy it. All right, cool. Now to the best part of the night. When you blow out your knee, we have the video. Pull it up.
Starting point is 01:11:42 I got it. I got to see his heart before you pull it up. I actually haven't seen this video yet. Hold on. Really? Okay. knee we have the video pull it up you got it i gotta see his before you pull it up i actually haven't seen this video yet hold on really okay before i like started like laughing about this because i love falls and shit i watch ridiculousness all the time in the morning at 2 a.m give us what happened so uh we were in charleston south carolina oh this was a poor house at the poor house yes i know we love the Poor House, yes. I know. We love the Poor House.
Starting point is 01:12:06 I love the Poor House. It was a great night. It was a great night. Yeah, it sold out. Otherwise, great night. And it was our first time there, actually. And it was going really well. First set, second set, third set?
Starting point is 01:12:17 First set went great. Second set was going awesome. And this was actually the end of the show. This was the last song of the second set. And we were playing Ruben's Train, which gets a little metal in our band. And so there was like this like peak of the jam. And I was kind of bent over soloing. And then I like went to like, you know, kind of write myself.
Starting point is 01:12:44 And when I do that, I kind of like got to give it some oomph to get all this know, kind of up right myself. And, uh, when I do that, I kind of like, got to give it some oomph to get all this fucking hair out of my face. And, and, uh, and I was kind of headbanging.
Starting point is 01:12:55 And when I did it, I like went back and my leg just kind of turned just in an odd angle. And I just like, all of a sudden it was just like down on the ground and uh and all everyone's everyone else on stage just saw me fall and so they were like what the fuck keep going yeah so i was still playing i was laying on the ground playing and uh and we were like kind of finishing out the song and then joe was kind of like are you gonna get up are you gonna you good and i was like yeah and i like went to get up and then all of a sudden i was like oh shit my leg won't straighten out
Starting point is 01:13:27 and and then i was like did you finish the song like thank you it was in the middle of a jam he we were like we basically were still playing the three of us went and kind of huddled over him and we were like we were all just kind of playing and we all had the thought like why you know you can get up dude like we go play this play this play this video are you kidding me this happened this happened luckily we have stewed to get it on video whoa this is a play yeah yeah we have oh we don't have audio. That's fine. I just want to... Oh, my God! Oh, and you keep playing like a fucking rock star. Look at this. You're down playing chords.
Starting point is 01:14:15 You good? Everyone, look at Max. You good? You good? Oh, my God. Go back to that. Oh, my God. Damn. That's insane. Go back to that Oh my god Damn
Starting point is 01:14:25 That's insane That's part of the show Go back to that Here we go Wow So what happened? Did you guys finish the song? Everything came to
Starting point is 01:14:43 Like a slow screeching halt. Like Torrin was just still up there. He's just like playing a little bit. And then we all stopped. Yeah. I didn't see my knee on the side. Oh my God. So my knee was like over here.
Starting point is 01:15:01 And I couldn't straighten my leg out because my knee was like that. Look at Max kind of like, what do we do? You're laughing, but you're like, oh, shit, you might be really hurt. Yeah. And at that moment, you would not believe how many people in the building assumed to be medical professionals. Yeah. Like right away.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Just drunk as fuck. Like, I got this, brother. This guy, this girl came up and like tried to like feed me orange juice because she was like he's diabetic give him orange juice and like and swings like what the fuck are you doing like get out of here yeah they didn't you know they didn't clear anybody out the emts came we so yeah we we went to the microphone and we're like uh does anybody in the building have medical experience? Do we have any EMTs in the building? And so somebody that was there who had been partying all night, but she was actually great. She came up on stage.
Starting point is 01:15:57 She was an occupational therapist from Salt Lake. Yeah. Wow. And I didn't catch her name, but she helped out. She actually did help out immensely. Oh, shout out to her. Yeah. Let's go. Yeah. Let's go yeah let's go people helping people yeah wow the best part about that though is like i lived i've been i followed this very i was like sipping tea i'm like damn is he gonna because we all had bets if you're gonna keep going so you're crazy like that yeah right and
Starting point is 01:16:22 we and you did and i saw next show, you're out there in a fucking wheelchair and your leg is like this, dude. Yeah, they put me in a... That is some metal shit, dude. I just want... Give me a hug. Dude, I'm going to clap it up, dude. That's metal. The show goes on.
Starting point is 01:16:40 I got a tattoo to commemorate it, actually. Bad leg of Tori. We were in Vegas for Halloween after that, like a couple weeks later. Oh, buddy. That was at the end of the first week of Tori. I still had a brace on it too. So you had three weeks left?
Starting point is 01:17:04 Yeah. I think so. Yeah, we did three weeks of tour after that yeah oh my god buddy so okay now i know we got to leave but it's almost done but i got how do you travel in a van with your leg like that all fucked up that's got to be so painful it actually wasn't that bad um once they like got my knee in the right place, um, which that was painful. They did.
Starting point is 01:17:28 They, uh, the EMTs did that in the parking lot and, uh, what they popped it back. Yeah. They popped it back in. And,
Starting point is 01:17:34 uh, it wasn't like, I like, I, I have, I have like drunk or anything. No, no.
Starting point is 01:17:40 And I, but I have a pretty high threshold for pain. I've, I've definitely fucked myself up good a couple of right um and so like uh max and sean were watching this all happen and watch me get picked up off stage and like white as a sheet and i was kind of like stop looking at me like that like and uh your kneecap was way over here oh my god but then we get to the the emt's like put me out in the ambulance. And then they just shut the doors.
Starting point is 01:18:08 And the guy was like, he kind of turned around. He was like, all right, we're going to fix that knee. And I was like, we're not going to the hospital? He was like, no, we'll do it right here. And I was like, oh, shit. Okay. South Carolina, brother. We're going to do it right here.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Yeah. And he was like, so what I'm going to do? He's like, she's going to lift your leg up and, like, push your hip over. And at the same time, I'm going to push your kneecap back into place. And I was kind of like, okay. And he's like, it's going to fucking hurt. And I was like, great. Thanks for that. And, but then he did it and it actually, he way, way built it up and it was actually like instant relief when he did it. But did it but yeah it was then could you start walking on it or no no i tore i tore one of my ligaments over here that holds your kneecap so i had to be in a splint the whole time i was on tour and then once i got off tour i started going to pt and i've been going to pt and i'm kind of done now with pt i'm finally like healed so
Starting point is 01:19:00 that is so fucking metal dude i'm gonna clap it up one more time that's unbelievable touring on a tour is that an mcl acl what is it uh mpfl god fucking you are a fucking hot dude you're a hot guy you do hot shit thank you thank you stay hot thank you i appreciate guys coming from andy frasco that means a hell of a lot. Anytime you want to sleep over. Look at this carpet. Look at this cheetah carpet. Guys, thanks for spending time. I know you guys are doing your tour, and I know that you're just kicking ass out there, and I just wanted to let you know that I'm rooting for you.
Starting point is 01:19:36 You guys are my homies. Likewise, buddy. I fucking love y'all. Y'all are the shit. We love you, too. Don't get in trouble. Joe, I'm glad you're finding help with your brain. That's really fucking really seriously a lot of people are scared to go to therapy man oh yeah yeah it's very they're in
Starting point is 01:19:51 it's like they feel like ashamed to go to therapy and it we got to fight the stigma that therapy isn't something to be ashamed of like we go to the doctor for your knee we should be going to the doctor for our brain too absolutely good job joe max i fucking love you i love you andy frasco you're the man you inspire me to uh watch or to uh start i started following that guy on instagram uh the author tim rover yep nice i like him very nice i'm i'm i'm into dudes like that but but one thing one last thing and we'll let you go on your rockstar way when it's all said and done what do you want people to remember this record by?
Starting point is 01:20:37 I think there's definitely some heaviness in there, some heavy topics and there, some, some heavy topics. And, you know, there's some, some stuff about mental health and people kind of wrestling with their
Starting point is 01:20:49 demons and stuff like that. But I think, um, in that, in this, in the same time, there's maybe some hope in there. And,
Starting point is 01:20:59 uh, yeah, I guess I hope that's what people remember it for. What about you, Max? Yeah. I mean, we've, throughout all of COVID, we've had people, you know, reach out and be like, you guys, like some of the streams we did, they were like, you guys literally got me
Starting point is 01:21:15 through that week. And we were like, same. Yeah. You guys got us through that week. Seriously. When we did that. Yeah. Having something to look forward to at the end of the week, being like, we're going to
Starting point is 01:21:23 go in and play music today. Yeah. That's huge. i agree 100 i mean you know music has been the soundtrack and the highs and the lows of you know i think all of our lives so yeah if we can add to that hell yeah fucking amazing what about you joe i just hope that record can be there for somebody sometime whenever they need it yeah Yeah. In any way. Boys, thanks for being on the show. Kick ass out there.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Drink water. Fucking keep driving without any music on. I fuck with that. I love that. That's my favorite part about you, Joe. Just like... I fuck with that. I do that too a lot. I listen to monotone vocals,
Starting point is 01:22:04 like a talk radio show show or just straight silence. It's nice. Boys. I love you. Love you, man. Kids and dwellers, everybody.
Starting point is 01:22:11 Let's go. Let's go. Kids and dwellers. Let's go. Hell yeah. Think time. What band was that? Eve Six Oh good one
Starting point is 01:22:31 Was it? No Look it up Hold on Definitely not the Counting Crows Same era though No a little later They're a little later
Starting point is 01:22:41 Closing time Oh we just announced our Twiddle tour I gotta say that We're going on tour with Twiddle in April. Hell yeah. Northeast and Midwest. I love those guys. Grab your tickets.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Yeah, it'll be fun. We're opening every night. It'll be fun. My old roommate in India is their light guy. Semi-sonic. That's who it is. Oh, hell yeah. This is a music podcast, people.
Starting point is 01:23:03 Wow. We should cover this. We're not covering this fucking song. Opening band. We are opening for Twiddle, so show up early. It's more of a co-bill. It's more of a co-bill. 60-40.
Starting point is 01:23:19 It's a 60-40 co-bill, but I guess we're the opener. God, I hate when they fuck it. I hate. That's the most. That's one thing i don't like about the music industry they are i mean they are bigger i get it in that market especially totally yeah i'm not saying them i'm just saying like we have to express that it's 60 40 bro it's like come on let's just have a show together let's not all i hate when it gets real ticky tacky like font size like no one cares oh my god you guys are losers you are nerds no a lot of bands care dude i then they i've had conversations with
Starting point is 01:23:52 i'm not gonna announce them but who i like that we're starting a little bit we won't say who but they care they really care about how big your font is are they pretty successful yeah well like no they're on their way up they're working their way up but like that's a nerd thing to do you're nerds and you're wrong and just chill out no but it's also the people who are really pushing for the managers and the booking agents of course that's what i'm talking about oh you talk oh you oh spicy a lot of managers are just nerds that have no talent i'm not talking about brian hey calm down no brian about anyone we're friends we are friends with good managers. Yeah, and agents.
Starting point is 01:24:26 I'm talking about these guys that are like, make friends with the guy and Kyle. They're like the manager they fire when they get their real manager later. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Every manager can't be good.
Starting point is 01:24:37 I know. Brian Schwartz is amazing. Yeah, shout out to Brian. Shout out to Bongiorno. I wouldn't call him a nerd at all. What? Neither of your guys are nerds. No.
Starting point is 01:24:47 Brian's a little nerdy. The healthy way, though. Yeah. Bonjorno's. No, Bonjorno's a G. Gangster. I saw his baseball card collection the other day on Instagram. You got to see his vinyl collection.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Really? Oh, my God. This guy has an insane vinyl collection. Collector. I hardly knew her. Yeah. All right. All right. Motivational speech for the day. collection. Collector. I hardly knew her.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Motivational speech for the day. You're doing it. I'm doing it. Guys, we're just getting older. That's fine. We could be sad about it. Or we could fucking rip it up. Are you ready to rip today up? Are you ready to rip this year up? I don't care if you're getting older.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Every day we get older. Every day we get closer to the grave. But what are we going to do with that time? Are we going to rip this year up? I don't care if you're getting older. Every day we get older. Every day we get closer to the grave. But what are we going to do with that time? Are we going to fucking marinate in our shit? Or are we going to fucking live our best lives even if we have to follow weird dreams? Even if you have a new dream at 34 years old. Maybe my dream is I don't want to be on Instagram so much. Maybe my dream is I need to stop beating off so much.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Maybe my dream is screen time. Screen time. No more screen time. Maybe my dream is i need to stop beating off so much maybe my dream is screen time screen time no more screen time maybe my dream is to get a burner phone yeah bert help him have a great day but seriously age is just a number i'm saying this to myself too because i wait i've been waking up lately like i'm getting older and i need to take care of my body because you never know when it's your turn to leave the fucking party so we might as well live like we are gonna die tomorrow wow it's really depressing actually get that burner i'm gonna get a burner phone it's over you got me into that podcast the episode you did with him yeah now i love his podcast i've been going back yeah he has so knowledge endearing yeah i gotta get him back on the show he's so smart but he's so down to earth but like he like pretends he's not smart but then you hear him say things and
Starting point is 01:26:34 that's weird yeah i gotta get him back on the show self-effacing i like it hey happy valentine's day to my cupid my valentine i'll tell julie you said hi on valentine's i'm gonna tell julie that you picked Jeff Bezos over Zuckerberg for a threesome. That's who she would pick. Yeah? Yeah. Jack's bald, guys. Okay, we're done. Have a good day. Hope you enjoyed Kitchen Dwellers. Maybe
Starting point is 01:26:58 next week is Steve-O and Wee Man, or maybe next week is Shovels and Rope, whoever I get first. Alright, guys. be safe out there and we'll catch you later. Bye! Bye! That was funny. Thank you for listening to this episode, produced by Andy Fresco, Joe Angelo and Chris Lawrence. We need you to help us save the world and spread the word.
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