Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 16: Chicano Batman

Episode Date: August 7, 2018

Wherein our hosts reveal some stifled childhood bumblings and share with us their deepest sexual proclivities. All of this, right after a quick briefing on the AIDS epidemic, of course. Oh, and what luck! Chicano Batman joins us on the interview hour to regale us with a charming story about their tour bus driver, Racist Jeff. Moral of the story? Stay compassionate and listen to psychedelic freak-out music. This is Episode 16. To keep up with the podcast, follow us on Instagram @WorldSavingPodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, tour dates, the band and the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com The views discussed on this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of the guests. Keep up to speed with our guest, Chicano Batman, by visiting: chicanobatman.com Produced by Andy Frasco Yeti Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Jack Brown Shawn Eckels & Andee Avila Arno Bakker

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Hey, guys. Welcome back. It's the Hib. The Hib. The Hib, HIV. You can't get rid of either, homie. I don't know. Magic Johnson pretty much got rid of it.

Oh, he's got money. You don't even have to have money to get rid of HIV anymore. Really? You just got to have drugs. I mean, it's pretty much cured like just you have hiv and it doesn't go to aids because they keep that shit together i talked with my buddy about that he was like do you think aids is like a poor man's disease it was you think cancer is a poor man disease there's a lot of

wow we could really go down a rabbit hole here um there's a lot of theory out there that says that the i mean do you remember hearing about that that the cia uh brought aids about to uh weed out the homosexual and minority populations oh Ooh, here we go. Confidential Yeti. This is straight up, like, this is a conspiracy theory that exists out there that, because AIDS just showed up in the late 70s. Yeah. In the early, late 70s, early 80s, AIDS just showed up. And it was because these people had HIV that was causing acquired immune deficiency syndrome, AIDS. And people were like, oh, fuck. They started putting some stuff together and they're like,

this is only affecting minority populations and gay people and gay men. Damn. I didn't think about that. You're totally fucking right so AIDS is racist basically that's fucked up we just missed our exit

we did? yeah I don't know what the fuck happened I don't know we're going somewhere we'll get there we'll get there I don't want to talk about AIDS it's sad

let's talk about threesomes threesomes okay so I've had how many threesomes have you had uh probably a handful a handful maybe five what are we talking are we talking male female male are we talking are we talking just with two other women um two women not two other women because you're not a woman girl on girl i had two i've had jesus Jesus fucking Christ Yeti's like Turning around on the goddamn freeway

It's like four wheel drive up in this bitch Oh fuck Alright I've had threesomes I've had a few It's a lot of pressure on the guy When it's two girls Cause you gotta take care of both of them

You gotta take care of both of them You You got to take care of both of them. You got to figure out how to eat pussy two times. You get into these awkward moments where your hand is crippled and you're trying to finger a girl while you're having sex with another one.

And then, you know, I had a threesome once where they wanted to have a threesome, but they didn't want to have sex with each other. Oh, they just wanted to each have sex with you while watching the other one? Oh, okay. That's just same room.

No, they were naked right here. I mean, that is a threesome, technically. They were naked together. I mean, that is a female That is a female male female Threesome because that implies Like the females are only touching the dude Yeah I guess so It's not an FFM

But I had one threesome These girls I was just The meat You were definitely in the middle of it Oh my god it was amazing Like they were just going through you to get to each other It was awesome It was so crazy It was an amazing moment. Like they were just going through you to get to each other. It was awesome. Yeah.

Dude, it was so crazy. It was in Denver, Colorado. I'll remember this forever. I was smoking cigarettes. We were at Coyote's. No, we were at the other bar. Cervantes? Cervantes.

No, Jay owns the other bar. It's right next to the Fillmore. Anyway, we used to play there every Tuesday. And it was one night These two girls came up to me Like hop skipping And you know Running Just like

Hey Hey Hey Andy Frasco We're gonna go Have sex with each other Do you wanna join? I'm like

Fuck yes I wanna join And I go with them And get to the house And it was like It was like a It felt felt like a goddamn porno. My dick was rocking. I was moving.

I was grooving. I was flicking vajines. I was there kissing each other. I was touching titties. It was a moment, dude. They were hot too. So hot. It was like, I, I was, I was, I was so happy. I almost cried happy i almost cried really yeah dude did you call your parents

right after you were no but i i gave myself the right after like yeah you're like caveman style good job bruh dude it was awesome it might never happen ever again like that and if it does awesome i will remember that moment for the rest of my life it was they were hooking up with each other they were touching each other's titties and they're like just like talking to each other all dirty and yeah it was awesome did how long did how long was this soiree man it i if it felt like three hours but i was also like high on cocaine and like you know the usual ecstasy this was like four years ago when this this moment in my life happened it was awesome then i had one you know it's like yeah you know

it's like i've only had one with, like, another dude. And it's just so weird. With a girl involved. Yeah. Yeah. With one girl and two dudes. Like, I couldn't even, like, I couldn't even look anywhere. I just, like, I couldn't even look at my homie.

You were so focused on not making eye contact with the dude. Yeah, dude. Were you performing? Was your penis doing what it was supposed to do? not making eye contact with the dude yeah dude dude were you performing was your was your was your penis doing what it was supposed to do I was in I was in uh I was a senior in high school when it happened uh-huh and my one of my best friends in the whole world um I won't say his name because he has an important job but um oh yeah he's like hey this girl wants to have sex with us we're gonna have a threesome dude we're gonna have a threesome together experience yeah it was the weirdest

situation why was it weird because i don't want to see my homie's dick yeah i saw his dick and like he being all in it and like just like seeing how he looks when he's having sex and shit. Like, you know, like. Yeah. I'm just, like, I'm like, I don't need to do that ever again. I think that that's where I am. Like, when it comes to threesome, like, I think everybody's a little gay. Yeah. And, like, I need to kind of be, I need to be kind of into that other dude a little bit.

Like, on a bro, like, be, like. Well, that's nice of you to say because when you're drunk two nights ago you're like hey we should have a threesome with somebody so i think you're all coming on to me yes you did you said that no that was oh yeah i did all right dude you're making me nervous now yeti this is i think i know why you want to do a podcast with me i think hold on you're the one that brought it up. I know. I mean, I'm very fascinated with threesomes. Like, I don't really beat off the threesomes. But.

I would hope not because you'd be participating. Oh, you mean like in porn? In porn, yeah. I'm not really into the whole girl shit. You don't. So, yeah, what's your go-to porn? Are you going for like a big, thick dick just getting that? Hell no, dude.

You're looking for like dick grippers? You know what's so fucked up in my head yeah my porn go-to is fucking cream pie really yeah but this is why i get so much anxiety over getting someone pregnant oh my god you idiot i know i'm i'm fucking myself on this one dude dude. This is why. Cream pie. Yeah, I like the cream pie. Duh. If you would have said that two days ago,

I'd be like, you motherfucker, stop watching cream pie porn. I know. I know. What the hell? That's also like, I get it to an extent, but it's also one of the grosser forms of porn out there. Like, of course you would be into one of the degenerate subgenres of porn. You know. I've had conversations with the people who are willing to tell me about their porn, what they like in porn.

A lot of people are scared to tell them what kind of freak shit you're into. I like chicks with dicks. Oh, God. I just like watching it. Yeah? It's crazy to me. Hold on. Is this serious?

Yeah. I'm not even kidding. Are you serious? Oh, my God. You're a closet gay, Eddie. I'm not a closet gay. Is this serious? Yeah, I'm not even kidding. Are you serious? Oh my god, you're a closet gay, Yeti. I'm not a closet gay. Fuck yeah, you are, dude. No, there's nothing closeted about it. Hold on. You are... I'm not gay.

But do you beat off and do you come to it? Do you come to Chicks with Dicks? Are they getting fucked by another dude? Yes. Honestly. Answer the question, Yeti. No, typically it's like Chicks with Dicks? Yeah, but like, yes. Are they getting fucked by another dude? Yes. I think it's honestly. Answer the question, Yeti.

No, typically it's like chicks with dicks solo. Like, it's just masturbation. You're watching a dude. But it's the tits. Like, I'm into titties. And you're into penis, Yeti. I don't know if I, I mean, Yeti, you might be gay. I'm not gay.

Let's talk about this. Wow. No, I have, okay, so yeah, full disclosure. Like, I am, yeah, I'm not gay. Let's talk about this. Wow. No, I have. Okay, so yeah, full disclosure. Like I am, yeah, I would admit that I am bi-curious. Like I'm totally open to that. And like I've been with a guy. I was in college.

I had a roommate that was gay. And we were talking about hooking up with girls. And he was talking about how he gave a dude a blowjob once and i was like you want to give me a blowjob and he said yeah and he did and it happened another time after that and like as a good christian kid i felt like shit hold on you got hit by a dude yeah what it's a bro job are you serious are you not fucking with me i'm not fucking with you yeti i. You had the gay vibe. I felt it.

There's a lot of people saying it really took... I don't want to say this is coming out or anything. Have you sucked a dick? No, I haven't. He sucked your dick? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, that guy had a tiny penis.

Wow. Hold on. So you guys had sex? No, no, no. We didn't have sex. He just went down on me. And he wanted to make out, and I was like, not into it. Oh, my fucking...

I was like, have you ever... You just... Oh, my God, you ghosted him. What am I holding up right now? Naked mamas. What is naked mamas? Naked mamas. This goes back to a story that I told... We're going back to this fucking... Getting a dick sucked. Well, it ties in.

So naked mamas, when I was when I was probably like six, summertime, me and my best friend hanging out at his house. It's time for him to take a nap. And his mom's like, your friend's got to go. And my friend says, hey, just hide in my closet and we'll play Naked Mamas. And I was like, dope. Whatever this game is, it's awesome. So I lay down in his closet.

His mom comes in. Your friend leaves. Yeah, okay, have a good nap. A few minutes later, we're under the sheets in his bed. And we're naked. And we got little six-year-old erections. And we're playing with each other's penises. I don't remember if we were sucking them.

I don't remember, honestly. Oh, my God! You do remember. You did don't remember honestly no the thing i remember is this is that we're and then of course we're making noise so his mom comes in and we're and and then we're standing there we get it she's like what are you doing and we get out and we're standing next to his bed naked and she's like i don't remember if she's yelling at us i don't remember exactly what it was I just remember being like you got to go home and being I felt shame about it oh I felt ashamed like I yeah well it's super Christian yeah yeah I was standing there naked and here's the thing is like even and I'll tell you this like having grown up in that in that evangelical in that

Christian culture the thing that I'll tell you, and especially in a, as having been an adult in that and seeing friends and other people go through that with their kids, that's not what typical Christians think, because that's totally normal behavior for kids is to just, I mean, how many people do you play doctor with? I mean, typically with girls, but I mean, at some point you're checking out the neighbor, one of the boys that know whether you have a brother or something like that and you're being like what is going on with that person this is why you love that show big mouse so much that show is hilarious oh my god yeti so yeah you might be gay but i'm not no i'm not gay i like curious i'm bi curious and if i were ever to be in a situation where i would be with a dude like i'm open to it yeah my band always thinks i'm a closet gay

i think honestly here's the thing and you and i have really similar personalities we're pretty gregarious and i i really do think i mean on big mouth they talk about like that the show show business is the business of the gays you couldn't be gay though andy you have an afro and semen just does not come out i know i know but like going back to that i just had this epiphany i'm like this is a couple because i always question if i'm gay because you know i can't keep a relationship with a girl. I just have one night stands. These are questions that I've dealt with myself.

Okay, keep going. So maybe I just can't relate or live with a woman, I'm thinking to myself. But then I think about that threesome I had with my buddy. And how weird it was. There was one time. What if it had just been the two of you? I don't think I could. You just totally cringed right there. I mean, that was i mean

that was like 18 no like no no bruno no disrespect yeah like if you if you you love you love whatever you love i'm not you know just not it's not my taste right right totally and that's where like people ask me like you were asking me like what you know what what kind of porn are you into or the or those things and that's where i would say i haven't experienced those things to say that that's what i'm into yeah i've made out with dudes like when i've been like fucking wasted wow this is getting crazier and crazier so that's what naked mamas was this this makes sense about you leaving the but you were hiding all this stuff while you're being a good Christian? Oh, dude, I told the most horrible story about, about that guy. Um, and I, I apologize years later. Um, and he didn't even know. I just said it to people that we knew to try to like, I don't know why to make myself feel less, uh,

less guilty about the fact that some dude made me come. Yeah. Um, so I mean, here's the thing. What's it, what do they always say? Like the ones that are the most against it are usually in it. Yeah. And I definitely found out that I had a hateful bent towards anything that was outside of what I would call heterosexuality. Yeah. Um, and then found out that I'm actually okay with it. And I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm okay with it on a level that most people aren't okay with. I'm okay with it on a level for myself. Not okay. I really like,

I'm like, do whatever the fuck you want. You're your business. But you know, I think that's where people, honestly, I think that's where people get stuck when it comes to, in particular,

the LGBTQ community and the quote-unquote gay issue is that they can't see themselves in that position literally and because of that they just put this mental block that there's no way that could be right damn because everybody's gay on some level it's a fucking spectrum i mean like when people are watching porn like even the straightest dudes out there fucking ted nugent toby keith i don't know straightest dudes you know like like those dudes like you think they want to see just some little flaccid penis pounding that pussy no they want a big veiny dick just getting after it like they appreciate a giant dick. Oh, my God. Yeti. Well, what did we learn today?

Yeti sucked dick at six years old. Yeah. And got hit again by a dude. In my early 20s. And wants to have a threesome with me. But he's not gay. Not gay. Here's the thing.

Andy's so hairy, though. I think I'm just going to roll you in flour until I find the wet spot. Oh, my God. Gross. Oh, I vomited in my mouth. Let's go. Let's listen to the next interview. Let's just marinate on that for a little bit. Oh, my God.

Speaking of that, I got a question. Do Mormons marinate? Yeah, it's called soaking. It's soaking. Yeah, yeah. Explain to the audience what soaking is. Some people called me out, but I grew up around Mormon culture, guys. So, soaking is you put it in, but you don't move.

Some people called you out for being a Mormon? You did. Episode one, you're like, I got this guy here with me. He's a Mormon, former preacher. And then later on, I was like, I'm not Mormon, but it's the same thing. It doesn't matter. All right, come on. Continue.

So, soaking is where you put it in, but you don't move. So, do they feel like that's not sex? Yeah. But what if you... Can you come from soaking? I mean, I guess you could, but that would imply movement. You can't move so do they feel like that's not sex yeah but what if you can do can you come from soaking i mean i guess you could like what do you do like you can't move can you talk to her or well yeah i don't know how it goes i don't think it's a ritual andy i just think it's just what the kids do to get around the rules what about anal can you have oh big time awesome yeah dude mormon chicks are totally done with anal and if you if you're a Mormon chick and you don't believe me, fuck you because you're lying to yourself.

Fucking, I grew up in Meridian, Idaho. Like, Idaho has more Mormons than Utah. I fucking grew up, and I know for a fact that it was like, you can't fuck me, but you can do me in the butt. But you can put it in my butt. That was all, that happened all the time. Didn't happen to me because I wasn't doing any of that. I had anal sex once in the back of my van.

What was his name? Who was it? No. It was a girl. Obviously. And it just felt gross. It felt gross probably because that had not been perfect. Maybe it was because it was the back of my old van.

It was like my gold van. Was it after a show? It was at because that had not been perfect. Maybe it was because it was the back of my old van. It was like my gold van. Was it after a show? It was at set break. Okay, so yeah. Here's the thing, dude. Anal sex? That, like, okay. Anal sex on porn, right?

Yeah. Do you like it? Are you into it? No, I don't watch it. You don't watch it? I don't watch the booty. I mean, I'm slowly, like, finally touching the booty. You know, like, with a girl, Back Door Man from the 70s?

Back Door Man. Now, I get it. You're slowly getting back. People like anal. I mean, some people dig anal. Are you eating ass yet? I, uh, on the last, like, I tried to eat a butt. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was a little weird. It was like, it's got like an indent. You know, your anal has an indent.

Yeah, your butthole goes in. When you're too drunk and you just keep going down while you're eating her out, all of a sudden you hit the indent. Like, oh, I'm at the butthole now. I have arrived at the anus. And, you know, you got to pretend like you're not wasted and you know what you're doing. So you can start eating ass. All right.

Here's the thing about anal. Jesus Christ. This episode's't use astroglide that's shit like it's horrible no i know that no i have yes i've done anal i have done without a condom yeah what the fuck i was in a relationship i know but shit yeah so here's i won't even touch the booty hole with my finger you gotta know oh dude i love know. Oh, dude, I love eating ass. It's great. Oh, my God. Girls love that shit. They do. Like, because you're down there, and then you just dip.

Oh, my God. Anyway, so, okay, so here's the thing about anal. Is that you, that happened to you on a set break. That's why it was gross. Because the way anal works and the way it's all clean, and they do ass to mouth and porno and all that shit is cause they just fucking rinsed their butthole out they just had like a mini enema

so that's been cleansed so it's clean I told you I lived in a porn house did I say that yeah yeah you said that in LA right yeah where they had like oh yeah they're cleaning I had to clean my job was to clean up old douches and enemas out of my fucking bathroom.

Right. So this is. I know what a douchebag. You get it. It was fucking gross. So that's why your anal sucked. Oh, so what is an enema? Do they just like suck all the poop and stuff out of you?

It's where you put water or something, usually water, usually a saline solution of some sort. Oh, my God. Something neutral. A good pH for your body. Blah, blah, blah. Anal is... An enema is necessary for anal.

So you clean out. Yeah. Basically, you're cleaning out your colon. Wow. Because on that note, what did we learn today yeti sucks some dick i did not suck dick he does anal without a condom i don't know why i feel like you got a fat maybe that's why we started this conversation with aids yeti dude this is okay so straight up that's a real that's a real thing. People have asked me. Is that true, though?

Can you get – that's the only way you get AIDS is anally? No, no, through body fluid. Body fluid. Body fluid. So why through the butt? Well, I mean, anal sex is – Because you're tearing it. You're tearing your – It's typically blood involved, depending on what –

There's blood involved in anal? You guys – that is – No, no, it can be. Blood and shit. Here's the thing. I'll tell you right now if you don't know what if you don't if you don't know what you're doing and you're a yeti yeah you wear size 15 sneakers yeah you gotta be careful oh you're saying you have a big dick i have a huge dick well all right we're out of here uh enjoy this interview jesus christ all right enjoy this interview we'll be getting fucking weird in the van, dude. Jesus Christ.

All right. Enjoy this interview. We'll be back at the tail end. Ass end. Yeah. Chicano Batman. You guys like

because I first time listening to your set I've had there's a bunch of buzz about you guys like on socials and stuff and I'm playing with you guys in Chicago tomorrow

and then I'm playing a game with you guys in Buffalo or like that upstate area. In July. In July, Cobblestone with Aqueous and stuff. Yeah, you guys get thrown on such different lineups. Like this is an indie lineup. Then you'll get on a jam lineup.

I mean, has the reaction all been the same or do you feel like you could play for the Cougars some nights? You know, you play for… It's like, what's the inspiration? What's the main goal with your vision? Does it matter who? It doesn't matter. I think we play to anyone and we'll play anywhere.

But I think what's universal… I think the universal appeal of our music is… It's got the funk and it's got the groove and it grooves hard. And that's just a universal language that people understand. I think also there's a pivotal point where we're like, we're going to be a rock band in the eyes of the public now. Yeah. Because before that, we really embraced being a Latino band. That's like soul Latino.

Before that we really embraced being a Latino band. That's like, you know, soul Latino. But, you know, but the powers that be want to keep you down, man. If you just keep yourself in a box like that, you know, it is what it is. But out in the market, you know, the rock world, you know what? It's just perspective, man. You tell them that, oh, you guys are a cumbia band? No, we're a rock band.

Oh, okay, cool. You guys can play Coachella. You know, it's like sometimes it's that simple. Exactly. But like growing up in L.A, you all grew up in LA? Yeah. So growing up in LA and that idea of chasing the rabbit's tail and trying to get a major deal, major label deal. I feel like the LA music scene wasn't really focusing on touring

as much as I had to get out and go to the Oklahomas of the world and the Missouris of the world and the Ark world in the Arkansas world to really build my voice was it tough to build your voice in Los Angeles growing up before you started getting hard you know what not you know we had a kind of a cult little following you know for long yeah tell me the story like what how did people find out about you do you have a video or Or was it a festival? Like, oh shit, these guys are it. We started off as a trio.

And we played our asses off. We were just all out. All out war. And then the first show we did, we were like, oh man, you guys have CDs for sales? Like, CDs? We're barely learning these songs.

But then six months later, we were like, guys, we should record a demo so we can at least have something to show. So we recorded it. And then we mixed it. And I was like, well, let should record a demo so we can at least have something to show. So we recorded it, and then we mixed it, and I was like, well, let's just release it as an album. And that came out to be our first album. You know? What was it called? It's called

Chicano Batman. And then, uh, her second album, um, Bardo, the singer, reached out to Carlos about joining the band, and, uh, you know, Carlos was dying to get in the band, and begging everyone, and, uh... No, I was, I was dying to get in the band and begging everyone. No, I was slugging it out for years

just trying to get serious musicians to want to take it up a notch and, you know, not just play, you know, bars and stuff. And these guys, I saw them play

and I was like, oh, they're amazing. They're all really great musicians and they're very original sounding. And I felt like I can, you know, compliment what they were doing. So you were the last guy?

I'm the last guy. That joined the group. Seven years ago, you're the last guy I'm the last guy that joined seven years ago you're the last guy yeah he's the new guy you're still you'll always be the new guy and he's the the pointy arrow of the band in terms of getting stuff done do you guys ever playing Mexico and South America and stuff is that one of your biggest fan bases Mexico we just grew that exponentially in the last tell me about it what's the difference between the difference between your Mexican fan base compared to this white demographic of Oklahoma's, Missouri's? Do they go ape shit over everything?

Or are they focusing in on the lyrics? What's that scene like? The growth of our fan base in Mexico pretty much happened around the release of the latest record, Freedom is Free. We have a label down there that... Arts and Crafts. Arts and Crafts, which is a Mexican label,

counterpart to ATO Records. They're like a sister label. And they really pushed it out there because we played Mexico a couple times and, you know, it was like cool, like, you know, you're a band starting out down there but once we had the label power behind us

to help us get the you know the message out you know we sold out the thousand twelve hundred seat Lunario our first time there

first time there twelve hundred seats your first time yeah and we went back to play Vive Latino and we played

in front of like probably five seven ten thousand yeah hundred thousand people we grew it from a thousand to a hundred thousand in 10 months bro it was it was about she sold probably ten thousand probably ten thousand people when we played but it was beautiful um I think they get the references culturally a little more immediate. You know, it's the music. We reference a lot of sounds from the 70s.

Stuff that basically hip-hop producers would want to sample. You know, there's groups like Los Angeles Negros or Los Pasteles Verdes. They have the fat bass lines and then the break beats and the funky organ. Excuse me. I'll talk. Sorry. Yeah. What were you saying yeah

so you get the references the references here somebody would be processing it still like oh yeah they're cool they do things differently I never heard of this

you know and then somebody in Mexico would be like man that's my grandma's stuff you know it's just immediate it's just like oh that reminded me

of the time when we used to have carne asada in the backyard and you know and then my kids used to come and this and that I was like oh

but it sounds like for us though it's like for the future it's like you know it's dudes used to come and this and that. I was like, oh but it sounds like it's for us though. It's like for the future. It's like you know, it's like a little bit of that. It makes me real like nostalgic. I miss my mom. Like I don't know. It encapsulates everything like that I am.

You guys kind of remind me of Manu Chao a lot. Like just like… You're just like… You have different integrations of funk and soul and then I hear some like Tom Waits in there too. It's like… It's pretty cool guys. I love Mark Rebo. He's one of my favorite guitar players.

Yeah? And he was definitely a big part in shaping like Tom Waits' sound that we kind of know today. You know? Do you guys tour Europe? Not yet. Not yet. How do you think that would… I think Spain would…

You'd kill. John, how will we do in Europe? How will we do in Europe? How are we doing Europe? Buongiorno is here. Sold out. He's saying we'll sell it out. We had the opportunity to go last year. We were just

burnt. You guys should tour with us out there. We do Germany and Netherlands and Spain. That's our biggest market. I think you guys would kill out there. They love every stage. The lowlands of the world and the rock and rings. They all have

an international stage that are bigger than the alternative stages because I feel like people want to get closer to the roots of the world. With you guys doing this in America, you're opening people's eyes to not just

listening to some hipster indie band that's tight on Rolling Stone or AP. Show and tell time. One of the things we're talking about, having played LA for so long, it's like when we finally did start touring,

we would have people at our shows. Because we starved the damn country so much. Especially the Southeast. Southwest, I'm sorry. Texas, Arizona. Oh, so that's where you started. Oh yeah, because that's the weekend warrior stuff. Tucson, Phoenix. So that's what you guys were doing?

You guys were holding jobs and just hitting Arizona, hitting... Yeah, it all started snowballing when we got the offer to play with Jack White in 2015. That's when… We quit our jobs. That's when we did our first real tour and we're trying to follow a tour bus. We were so green. We didn't have a tour.

What were you? What was that? What were you guys rocking in? A little van? E350? Classic. With a trailer? No.

No trailer. My boys. Fucking road warrior. All the merch in there. No trailer. My boys. Fucking. All the merch. All the merch in there. Merch. Way too much merch. In our head.

Like, just like, don't break because the kick drum is right behind my head. How does Jack's fan base react to, were you guys main support

or you guys one of three or how? Main support. Main support. It was dope, man. It was dope. Yeah, it was like,

some cities, like Austin City, Austin, what… Some cities… Like Austin City… Austin… What's that place called? Austin City? Austin. Stubs? No, the big hall that closed down.

It was… Austin Music Hall. Austin Music Hall? I'm not sure. Yeah, the first time we played there, they didn't care. Yeah. It was a… Okay, so Jack White, when you play with him…

He likes to play smaller rooms than he can actually play. Like he plays playing like 3,500. That's small for him. Because this guy can smaller rooms than he can actually play. He likes playing 3,500. That's small for him because this guy can play 12,000 seats. But he likes the smaller, intimate rooms, as he calls them. So we were playing 3,500 people every night. We did Austin. We do two nights in those cities.

Two nights in a city, pretty much. But he took us to places that we had never been before. He took us to the South. Mississippi. Mississippi. First time there. Was that with like… Was that with the tour where Jack was doing like every other day doing a girl band? No. That was the guacamole tour.

Okay. That was the guacamole gate. Basically what happened is… His keyboardist was a friend of ours. Ike Owens from Long Beach. I'm not sure if you know him. And he passed away during the fall part of the 2014 tour. And he was a huge Chicano Batman fan. And he let everyone on Jack White's, you know, band know it.

And so I think kind of out of like his respect to his memory and homage to him, they asked us to open up for them, you know, because in memory of I ike and that's what he was trying to make happen all the time he was always pitching us and um so we got on it we got on the tour and um yeah like i said we were playing the south we played ohio columbus ohio we played the what is it called it is no no it was starksville mississippi we're playing gyms and um ohio basketball arena we played like to 12 000 people in Ohio. And we're going from like selling out La Cita in downtown LA, 250 cap. And then like a month later, we're opening in front of 10,000 people. It was insane. We were playing one of these big ass arenas.

And like, we were going, all right, one, two, three, four. First beat, wrong song. Yeah, the first time. And then the drummer was like, oh, damn. Okay, one, two, three, wrong song again. the drummer was like, oh, damn. Okay. One, two, three. Wrong song again. And we're like, oh my God.

And then we just had to look at them and they were just like, let's go together, dude. That one was not at the 12,000 seater. That one re-killed that night. That was at the 7,000. It was at the 7,000. The day before.

Have you ever dealt with controversy playing like Latino music in the South? No. Not really. Not to our faces, but we would get reviews after the fact and people would kind of let their racism show a little bit. People would be upset. Like what? What would they say? Like one guy. Call us a Mexican salsa band?

Someone called us a Mexican mariachi salsa band and they criticized us. The direct quote was, they were not enjoyable because their music was not easily understood because it was in Spanish. What? Oh, that was Alabama.

That was Alabama. That was Alabama. Alabama daily or something. But you know. Where? Birmingham or something? But then we had young folks like this kid on Twitter was like, my dad was so upset that these four Latinos opened for Jack White.

He was like, why are these guys opening for Jack White? And then the son, this is a white kid. He was like, the son said, dad, if you were there, you would have understood, you know? So the youth understood. I feel like, yeah, the millennials, like there's a shift between power. Dude, I love these comments, man. Yeah, they're great.

I mean, you think of Jack White's fan base. It's so broad. Because he's a pop artist, but then he's a real music nerd. You know, music head that people like us can dig into it also just because he's Sonic genius. So it was a learning experience, I think, for the audience and for us to play those shows. I love these comments, dude. They make me so happy. those shows.

I love these comments, dude. They make me so happy. Because at the end of the day, if you want to engage an intelligent conversation, rational, like, you know, beings talking about justice or fairness

or just not even judging each other, like, get that judgment cloud off of your head. Yeah. Talk about things for what they are. You know, they don't last. Yeah. They don't last.

You know, just because I'm a brown skin man, I'm supposed to, what, get less than you? Yeah. Retarded. And, you know, they won't say it They don't last. You know, just because I'm a brown skin man, I'm supposed to get less than you? Retarded. And you know, they won't say it to your face the way to their hiding under their telephones. There you go. Show your face, America. Big ups to Jack White.

Big ups to Jack White for giving us that opportunity. You know, he doesn't have to give that opportunity to some man like us, but I think he understood the cultural ramifications of bringing on something like us to open his shows. And, um,

you know, I mean, I, I really credit him for, you know, raising our national profile, creating a national profile for us and like kind of breaking the band. Did you have good talks with Jack about progression of your career and how,

how to, how to stay, you know, stay relevant through a 20-year career. I mean, Jack's been doing it and changing his vibe and changing

just to keep Jack White, Jack White. We talked to his aura more than we talked to his person. Yeah. His aura is everywhere.

Yeah. He was cool. I mean, he invited us to his house in Nashville after one of the shows and we partied at his house. Did you go check out Third Man?

Yeah, we did. They gave us the tour. What'd you think of that shows and we partied at his house. Did you go check out Third Man? Yeah, we did. They gave us the tour. What did you think of that? It was beautiful. Awesome. Killer studio. I actually saw Jack White like two months ago because he did a show at the Mayan, his like kickoff show.

And he was so happy to see me and, you know, representing for the band. He was like, man, he's like, I'm so happy for you guys. He's like, I've been following you guys since, you know, you toured with us and you guys are killing it right now. I'm so proud of you guys. I've been following you guys since you toured with us. And you guys are killing it right now. I'm so proud of you guys. And that means a lot. He didn't have to say it. He didn't have to acknowledge us. Because you open for these big bands.

Sometimes they never even pay attention to you. Yeah, exactly. He was not like that. He was always cool with us. He would crack jokes. How long is set list did you guys have? 45 minutes. 45 minutes?

Yeah, it's great. I mean, only band opening and 45 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we learned about like changeovers. Yeah. And like, you know, who stage managers are. Oh, because you guys are doing your own stage managing probably, right?

We were green as hell. You had house sound or did you have Jack's guys run the sound for you too? No, we brought a sound guy for that. Cool. They let us use their Midas, you know, console. They used to let you use the board? Well, initially what happened is

the tour manager called me and he was like, we're going to have our front of house and our monitor guy do the sound for you guys. You pay him 50 bucks a night tip. And then after the second show,

the backline tech we brought who's our friend, he also knows how to do front of house and we realized, oh, you know what? It's probably going to be better if you do front of house instead

because you understand, you know, the songs. gonna be better if you do front of house instead because you understand you know the songs and we had dream theaters guy do our monitors yeah oh really who's who's uh no rush no rush oh yeah rushes no rushes front of what is it la cat both of them uh oh really yeah oh the monitors was front of house for for dream theaters he's doing monitors for jack oh and he's doing monitors for us we're just like for Dream Theater. He's doing monitors for Jack. Oh wow. And he's doing monitors for us. We're just like…

Dream Theater's guy. Let me tell you something. Don't look at him. The monitor situation for that tour was probably the best monitoring we ever had.

Yeah. Just the… I mean… Jack White… No expenses spared on quality control on that stage. I mean he was bringing

his own like analog board. It's a huge thing. Big Midas board. And then he had like the stressors and the LA-2As and like all this crazy gear

like racked in the back. That he never even fucking used probably. That's what we're thinking. Just give it to us, man. Oh my God. Oh man. It is halftime

at the Ennefresco interview hour. Hey, what's up, podcast universe? This is Jack Brown from Sophistafunk, and you're listening to What's Really Going Down with Jack Brown. This is What's Really Going Down with Ghostwriting and Hip Hop. And I'm going to name out some really famous examples that will kind of blow your mind because I had no idea.

So let's talk about a few. Well, for one, you know, that NWA was putting out hits, but it was Ice Cube who was doing the writing for the band. Well, it turns out that his relative, Del the Funky Homo Sapien, was actually helping write with Ice Cube at that time. Also, if you look back on that era in West Coast, Dr. Dre is famously known for hiring ghostwriters and had Snoop Dogg on his first album, The Chronic. But here's one that you may not have known. On his song Still D.R.E. from The Chronic 2001, Jay-Z was a ghostwriter on that track. And just to keep things also in a strange place, did you know that Nas was a ghostwriter on Will Smith's Getting Jiggy With It?

So there you have it. There's plenty more out there, but this is Ghostwriters Part 1, What's Really Going Down. So I got a couple things. I'll let you guys go. I know you guys are sleep deprived. What's your schedule?

Oh, yeah. You guys drive to Chicago. I got one more show. No, no, no. How far is Chicago from here if we drove? 16 hours. God, they're not doing that. You guys, are you still...

Oh, you're flying. You know what's funny? We flew from Philadelphia here and it took us like eight hours, right? Because we had to get two flights and a little… So are these just all one-offs? This whole festival circuit?

Kind of like three-offs. Yeah. Three-offs. So you're flying in to each one. That's great. But they told us that it would have taken three and a half hours to drive from Philly and we got here like in eight hours

flying. Ridiculous. Oh my God. We had a flight at what? At six this morning and we got here like at one. We're like,ulous. Oh my God. We had a flight at what? At six this morning and we got here like at one. We're like, how'd that happen? Do you still love it? You still love it?

I mean, eight years in. Do you guys still love the travels? Do you still love touring? Like what's, what is the dream? Like with the progression of the band, do you guys want to keep writing new records that keep on transcending the culture? Or what's the dream?

Lyrically? Talk to me. Become better songwriters and just try to, you know, I mean, we all have our own slant on it individually in the band. Me personally, the goal is always to just progress, progress, you know, be better than the last record in some regard and be different in some regard, you know. How's the new record everyone's

are they stoked or we're writing it right now and it's been so much fun yeah it's been really organic who's producing it we don't have a producer yet what we're doing right now

is we're writing a lot of demos recording demos and we're sending them over to the label pretty soon we have Quincy Jones he's interested yeah right

I wish yo Quincy holla at my boys. We have a short list and, you know, some of it might be wishful thinking, but it'll just depend on... Well, what's wishful thinking? You never know. I'm not saying shit. I don't want to jinx it. You guys are going to go great.

Alright. I want to... One more question. If you could have a choice to make a festival, dream festival, any band, dead or alive, you get to pick the whole lineup,

who would it be? Damn. You could do six bands just for one night. We don't have to do it three days. It's going to be a crazy amalgamation

just like our music. Well, tell us. Go. I'm going to pick one. Radiohead. No, you got to do all six of yours. Oh, all six.

All six and he'll do six. Let's see. Radiohead, Jimi Hendrix, Television. Who's Television? Television is a group from late 70s from New York City. And they had really cool quirky guitars. Kind of like a Talking Heads kind of vibe. Same school.

They came out of CBGBs. So what was that? Three? Man, so hard. Kendrick Lamar. Let's see. William Onyebor. Fela Kuti.

Damn. You guys into hip hop? Yeah. Growing up from LA? Who are your hip hop influences? Man. DJ Quick. Growing up in LA.

DJ Quick. MC Rand. NWA. GFunk. Warren G. Dr. Dre. Dr. Dre. Ice Cube.

Snoop Dogg. Youg, South Central Cartel. All that gangster stuff, man. Ice-T? Ice-T, Body Count. Yeah, definitely, man. We just opened for them in Germany. That shit was nuts, dude. Yeah, it was us, Body Count, Foo Fighters, and The Muse.

And then we had Meshuggah, Metal Band, and Creator. Remember Creator, the Metal Band? I'll put them in my festival. Yeah, dude. I'll do Miles Davis, 90s White Zombie. 90s White Zombie. Yeah, 90s. Yeah, cool.

They're right. I'll do my boy Chico Che. He's going to be a god, right? Who's that? The guy from Mexico. From the 70s until he died. He's just recording music. It's like Veracruz Caribbean

shit. Okay. I'll put Prince in mine. And then I'll put The Doors just because I want to see it. And then Six Band. Damn. I'll put Damn. Who damn I put damn

who would I put Mahavishnu Orchestra who? Mahavishnu Orchestra oh my god just to say just to I just want to see

I just want to see them all hang out be like sup see all those bands all those bands that's that's Chicano Batman's

music sound yeah everything we just listed I mean you guys such a melting pot. I mean, you guys… I'm just so proud that America's responded so well to your music. Because just like… Even take all race culture aside.

You guys are trying to bring a different idea to what indie and funk music is. I mean, you know, I play a lot of jam bands. You know, you hear the same style of funk, you know, most of the time.

And this is the first time I really heard land funk and it's fucking badass. Like live. You know what, I point to you what you're saying.

I think, you know, we talk about like building walls, you know, and the ice situation and like people separating other neighborhoods kind of separating themselves it's like these borders are actually pretty shallow more shallow than we think yeah you know it's like we can all kind of for real like get along

it's kind of a lot easier than we think you know let's just kill that ignorance man you know because music does it you Because music does it. Music does it. We see all kinds of people at our show, man. How do you think we can kill the ignorance? Man, compassion. Compassion. Compassion.

Empathy. You know what I'm saying? Be sincere. Don't try to be someone you're not. I think, too, religion smashes our ideologies of what's right and wrong you know people do wrong things they don't mean they're evil you know saying give people chances to heal i think a lot of people need to heal man we have a lot of trauma a lot of multi-generational trauma you know and uh we haven't had time to heal and we have to grow up in a world we have to just work and consume and

consume and spend and spend and we're So, like, dislocated from our roots and where we actually come from, you know, and where Pepsi and Nissan and freaking Philip Morris has taken over,

like, what it is that we wear on our t-shirts, you know, and what you have, right? The things you consume are the things that

represent you, you know? We start peeling those layers away and be like, yo, this is only recent, yo. This is not even 100 years. I know. layers away and be like, yo, this is only recent, yo. This is not even a hundred years.

I know. This culture is like, is dominating us. We can pull back, yo. Like we can, we can start like connecting with, you know, the food we grow. Yeah. You know, the sun, the seasons, you know, and I think, you know, that's a start. Yeah. Bringing back to your point about how you said the dad from from alabama didn't understand it but the kid understand it i feel there's hope for less

ignorance with our younger generations and stuff definitely we see i mean we just played richmond virginia and you know i mean we play the the west coast and southwest major cities there's a big latino element to our our fan base for sure but when you know we played richmond and it was not it was not very latino at all maybe five people in the audience out of you know 300 and you know it's beautiful seeing people that are of all different places you know vibing to the music wanting to hang out after and just talk about music and stuff you know you don't need to understand sp, man. Exactly. The message is there.

The feeling is there. Music is one language. One nation under a groove. That's the goal. One nation under a groove. Alright, one last thing. What's the craziest shit that's ever happened

to you on the road? You know, like if it's some crazy groupie trying to, you know, trying to fuck with the game or just someone dosing you

that didn't, you know, what's the craziest thing that's ever happened you that didn't, you know, what, what you could, what, what's the craziest thing that's ever happened? I don't know, but it is funny.

Like our last, we just got on a bus when we did our tour with Crumbin and, um, our bus driver, his name was Jeff. Also known as racist Jeff. He was this guy from Alabama, dude.

He was just trucker speed and racism or what? Yeah, totally. Confederate flag by his littleer speed and racism or what? Oh, man. Totally. Confederate flag by his little... His driver's seat talking about hookers and prostitutes and just talking about... Oh, you know, the Black Lives Matter movement, that's just some terrorists. That's just some terrorist stuff. You know, all those people should just like... Conspiracy theory, dude.

Just all that stuff and talk about Trump. Yeah, Trump's a smart man he's gonna like it's a smart businessman he'll make smart business decisions for our country and then everybody in the band

just like try to pick on the girls and it's just like is this what how do we get stuck with this motherfucker we're Chicano Batman bro who the fuck

is racist Jeff racist Jeff driving Chicano Batman but you know what? The trip though, it's like that fool knew his shit. Like the bus broke down like twice in the middle of the desert in Nevada

and got it going. You know, like things like that. I'm just like, I mean, it's not reason for anybody to be racist and ignorant, but I'm just like, that motherfucker knew his shit though. Damn it.

I hate him. That bus broke down like at 4am like in Montana like in the snow and he fixed that shit he was up 22 hours

he fixed it and he got us to where we needed to go every time and you know that guy obviously he comes from a completely different world

than us but we still were trying to connect to him on some kind of human human level just for like you know like just trying to cause to him on some kind of human level. You know, like, just trying to… Because that's the problem.

I think people see the political… They take the political side. We have our political affiliations. And I think people use those way too much to just put up… You know, like he was saying, walls. And it's just like, man, that shouldn't define us. Like, we still all believe red. You know? And we're all bleed, you know, red, you know.

And we're all human people, you know. So anyways, we were trying to just find some kind of commonality with him. Dude, he had this one story, man. Where he's like, you know, they're talking about North Carolina and the gender bathrooms. And he was like, you know what they do with people like that in my part of town? I was like, I didn't even say what. I was like, I what they do with people like that in my part of town I was like I didn't even say what he's like I was like I don't want to know

he's like you know we oh I can't even say this is like basically like they'll beat the crap out of a man

till like you know they make him straight again and he's like you don't even know what happened to a woman and I was like yo

we gotta get the fuck out of this bed that's what we would be like I'll be right back my girlfriend's calling me yeah yeah we're river people out there

you know you don't wanna know the kind of people they do all over the river it's like where's my band and why aren't they pulling me out of this

right now yeah it was tough racism's live and well in America I'm glad you guys are fighting the good fight and keeping so we don't end it

on a dark note I wanna tell a funny story okay we just played we were passing through Philadelphia note. I want to tell a funny story. Okay. We just played, we were passing through Philadelphia the other day. All right. This is a funny story. And we were just reminiscing about, um,

Oh, the first time we ever played Philadelphia, we got booked at a, um, at a art space. That was a church that they committed, convert into an art space. And basically they,

the promoter really pushed the cultural element, you know, like something like you would see like some kind of cultural event that a family can go to, you know, like maybe see some mariachi music or something like that. That's more like wholesome than a rock and roll psychedelic band like us. And so we go to play and there's like five people in the audience.

One of them's a grandma who probably read the cultural pamphlet and was like, Oh, this will be a nice thing to take my grandchildren to for the week. There's two little kids. One's like seven and the other one's nine. They're in the audience. The promoter provided us with the worst equipment ever, like toy amps. Eight-inch speaker PV practice amps. And we just played our psychedelic freakout music.

And the whole time like the grandma was like covering her ears like she was squinting you know like grimacing in pain like I remember after that gig

I was like what am I doing with my life right now? Why am I doing like I need to find a new profession. Anyways. Just some context.

It was a Monday 5th of July in a church. But you flash forward five people. You flash forward four years profession. Anyways. Just some context. It was a Monday, 5th of July. In a church. But you flash forward four years later and we just played to like 9,000 people yesterday in Delaware

and Dover. You know, the same region. You know, it's just crazy like just how far we've come and it's a beautiful thing.

Seeds, man. Seeds. Plant the seeds, guys. Some grow faster than others, man. Straight up. Chicano Batman, thanks so much for being here, man. Seeds. Plant the seeds, guys. Some grow faster than others, man. Straight up. Chicano Batman, thanks so much for being here, man. You guys are bad to the fucking bone. We're going to see you in Chicago

and we'll see you tomorrow. We got a lot to talk about. Let's hang out. Let's be friends. Thank you so much. Love you guys. Now, a message from the night. If I'd known she was religious, then I wouldn't have came stoned to the house of such an angel too fucked up to get back home. Looking over West Virginia, smoking spirits on the roof.

She asked, anybody told you that them things are bad for you I said, many folks warned me, there's been several people tried, but up till now there ain't been nothing that I couldn't

leave behind Hold me close my dear. Sing your whispering song. Softly in my ear. I will sing it long. Honey, tell me how your love for us is true. Now I can always count on you.

To be there when the bullets fly. I'll run across the river just to hold you tonight. Another great episode. Another great interview. Jesus, Yeti. I just learned the freak you are, bud. I thought I was... Wow. Impressive.

You out-freaked bud. I thought I was... Wow. Impressive. That's a... You out-freaked me. Yeah. Wow. I may not have fucked as many people as you. Hey. But I've been weird about it. Unbelievable.

Such a great interview. And I'm thinking about... What are you thinking about? 60-year-old Yeti sucking some dick. Well, that's not, I mean, I, okay, fine. I mean, I get it. You're not thinking about any six-year-old. I got a story, too.

I mean, I was, you know. Yeah, tell me your first sexual experience, exploration, blah, blah, blah. It was like the same thing. We were third grade, and we were all, we're going to pull over over here because I got to pee. Okay. It was third grade i'll i'll one this quick then it was third grade so like or fourth grade or something we were just fighting out about jerking off and porn and yeah yeah so my buddy i won't say his name but

his really close buddy of mine uh he's like let's have a porn party and there's 10 dudes let's have a fucking porn party. And there's 10 dudes and kids. Okay. And it's dark. Wait, how old were you? We had like a slumber party. But you were like fifth grade?

I was like fifth grade, fourth grade. So like 10 or 11? No, I was younger than that. Like eight or nine? Yeah, I was like eight or nine. No, third grade. Third or fourth grade.

Mark's 11, my sister's 24. I mean, third grade is eight or nine. So yeah, I think I was like fourth grade. Okay, so you're fourth grade. Mark Salone, my sister's fourth grade. So yeah, I think I was like, right, fourth grade. Okay, so you're fourth grade. And we're just like ten dudes beating off. Wait, could you beat off though at that age?

Whenever I could get a boner. Maybe if... I wasn't friends with... bleep out that name. I wasn't friends with him in middle school we kind of had a falling off yeah so it had to be in elementary school so there was like 10 10 kids and we got caught we weren't like what like we weren't like naked beating off we all had

like blankets and it was really dark and like everyone's just focused on the porn just focused on the porn i did that um on a church trip church we were doing bible quizzing yeah and uh we uh suiting this says welcome to the middle of nowhere legit um yeah we were on a church trip and uh me and two of my friends got this great idea. We just jerk off in the same room. Oh, my God. And we're talking about, like, the girls that we were into. Oh, my God, Yeti. You're a fucking freak. All right, we're out of here.

You guys, follow the Instagram. If you still want to subscribe after this episode. But, yeah, we learned a lot about it. Why would they not want to subscribe? This is, like, one of the realest episodes we've ever had. I know you're right. Hey, I'm going to call you out on something right now. Like you're, you're like a little too like, Oh no.

What'd we just do? Like, you're like, like if I, I like a straight. So here's the thing. Like I kinda, I kinda came out as bi curious. I did come out as bi curious in this episode. That's me. That's not you. Yeah.

And you're not, you own who you are and i'm owning who i am and i'm proud of this episode i am too yeti yeah proud of you over here looking at my vulnerable looking at my co-host being like uh i don't know i'm like dude who fuck cares like i'm curious about dicks fine what's next you want to jerk off together i don't know goodbye frasco and yeti Signing off This is it See you tomorrow See you next week Yeah

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