Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 166: Ryan Dempsey (Twiddle)

Episode Date: April 5, 2022

We're keeping it low, short, and squatty this week as Andy and the boys prepare for a nationwide tour opening for our buds, Twiddle. And speaking of Twiddle: we got massively talented keyboardist, alien truther, and all-around nice dude Ryan Dempsey on the Interview Hour! Listen in as Andy & Nick grill him on his worldview as we (& maybe you?) become converts. Join us, won't you? On this journey into the unknown... or not. Either way, free that mind from external conditioning, baby! You can watch this puppy on youtube if you're more of a visual person Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out Andy's new song, "Wash, Rinse, Repeat" on iTunes, Spotify  Check out our buds, Twiddle! twiddlemusic.com Produced by Andy Frasco Joe Angelhow Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: The U.N. Arno Bakker

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Check, check, check. Ryan Dempsey's opening the night. Little. Anderson East. We're going on tour together, buddy. I'm honored to be a part of this because I've always wanted to be. Well, you showed up to my house like a bat out of hell last night at 2.30 in the morning. You're like, I have shit to talk about.

But first, before we even talk about that, this is how he showed up in the morning. Why don't you explain this photo? Well, this is after I left your house at two in the morning or something three for the people in the audio this is a picture of ryan dempsey trying to make it to his bedroom i barely made it there's a lot of questions though why is there one sock there's one case one sock on explain the explain this photo wait do you live here no that's my friend oh you're saying it's something he's just a town from vermont okay so. So he didn't even make the bed. He has one sock off.

Yep. And the pillow is propped upward. You got your pants off, though. I like that there's a towel just in case you wanted to take a shower. Yeah. Did you pass out like that the whole night? It's like day three. You're basically like, what is that, crouching over the bed?

I don't know how you can sleep like that. He fell asleep. It's clear what happened. You took your took your pants i know exactly what happened the sock came off because it got torn off with the pants so he took the pants off and then he passed out saying his evening prayers you look like you're praying to the porcelain gods i mean you were we were having a night you were trying you started to explain this alien thing that's why we brought you on the show yeah we wanted to talk about so we decided not to do this last night because you know we were yeah because this is how you were you're intoxicated yeah so now i was now sober ryan sober ryan's gonna tell us all

about aliens ryan dempsey wants to tell us about life forms outside of this world yeah and you said that we could give we could ask honest questions and not, we feel like you're full of shit. We can push back. We could push back. Is that true? You push it all you want. Okay.

I want you guys, I've been studying this topic since college. So now like 15 years. Yeah, yeah. Like really, really researching books, credible people, not nut cases. Like this thing is, it's the topic of UFOs and aliens

has been a laughable topic for many years. It's like, it's just crazy. But that's how it's supposed to be. It's like, cause it's absolutely, it is crazy. It sounds crazy. But if's how it's supposed to be. It's like, because it's absolutely, it is crazy. It sounds crazy. But if you start reading about it and like listening to higher people in the government now, like we're in a special spot because finally they've opened up last year or when Trump was in office, very strange that now they're acknowledging that, yes, we have UFOs in our possession.

Even the Pentagon announced that. Does that mean they're aliens, though? They don't necessarily have to be an alien. UFOs are a very broad term. I don't think if anyone tells you they know exactly what it is, then they don't. Well, yeah, that's why it's unidentified. It could be interdimensional. It could be...

Are aliens on Earth right now? Yes. Hybrids. What do you mean? So when you start studying the abductions, there's millions and millions of cases of abductions, right? I could make up a story saying a little blue monster comes and visits me every night and i tell everyone that that's one case and ryan okay that's never happened to me but now we have millions and millions of cases so you got

to look at the uh the the stuff that comes in between all of these cases coming in and you got to look at the research and say look at the similarities of these people that have a similar story about you know little four so when you say hybrid are they us or they can or like are we like they can replicate us or something they're interested in our in our genes our our okay biological i mean that's why In our genes, our biological... Why? We don't know? I don't know. I know that they're making hybrids.

So who told you this information? I mean, through a lot of research, but I have a friend that I met. His name is Bob Exler. He worked for NASA for four years. He worked on the docking system for one of the lunar modules and uh he recently just passed away god rest his soul he had cancer um but my wife and i flew down to florida and we bought up his deathbed he was pretty close to death and i asked him everything i wanted to

know and he he just let it out he He's like, I don't care anymore. He was worried for a while to not say too much. But I got a lot of... Okay, so what information did he say to you that was the most interesting and made the most sense? Like a particular thing? Just like about aliens on Earth okay are they here to kill us are they here no okay so that since since a craft hit the ground back in 1947 there's been a bunch

of other uh situations where we get their craft and we try to back engineer it. We're not, you know, like he was a part of back engineering a disc and it first hit the papers in 1947 and Roswell, but it's happened so many times since. So it's like giving a monkey a cell phone,

right? How long would it take the monkey to even realize that it's going up into space and sending signals out to the phone? So the craft is so... High-tech? You couldn't even touch it. It has its own gravitation. It's like beyond high-tech.

We don't even have probably half the shit in our world if it exists. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it takes a long time, and it's going to take years and years to figure out how these things work. It's like not even tech. But why aren't the aliens telling us? exist you know what i mean yeah so it takes a long time and it's going to take years and years to like figure out how these things work it's like not even why aren't the aliens telling us yeah why don't they want us to know well i think about it like this if we finally got so advanced and we send out some dudes into space like oh hope it works out and they finally do hit a planet

Hope it works out. And they finally do hit a planet. Like you have no idea what to expect and if you're going to hear back from them. So like if they're so far away and they're coming here, it's not like they have the ability to just say, hey, we're here. Like it happened already. So like it depends on how we deal with it.

Like do we tell the world and can the world handle it? Yeah. What about like the religious people? Religious? Oh man, that's where it's at. And this is another thing. If you look back into the, you know, the Clinton emails when that whole thing was going on and Assange released all the, if you look what those guys were talking about, John Podesta, who was working with Obama and the Clintons,

he left the White House and his last thing on Twitter was, the last thing I want to say is I'm so sad that we never just announced to the American people that the UFO thing is real. And he just took off. But if you look at the emails, he's talking to Blink-182, Tom DeLonge. That guy's way into aliens. Why is he out of here in the fucking mix with the aliens? He's actually sort of respected in that field now.

He's gotten so into it. He has a show, doesn't he, or something? Yeah, he started To The Stars Academy. He's obsessed with it. He changed the game, doesn't he? Yeah, he started To The Stars Academy. He's obsessed with it. He changed the game for the UFO thing out of nowhere. Why Tom DeLonge? It all takes someone who's really into it that has a lot of money.

Yeah. Okay, so keep going. So, the emails that were being passed back and forth between Tom DeLonge, Hillary Clinton, John Podesta and the sixth man on the moon I can't think of his name right now. between Tom DeLonge, Hillary Clinton, John Podesta, and the sixth man on the moon. I can't think of his name right now. They were all talking about how to... They were talking to the Vatican, people in the Vatican,

like, how do we deal with this and give it to the people so no one freaks out? How do we have religion also, like, accept this? Because this squashes everything. Well, they could just say God made aliens. why why they do that with everything else well i mean how do we know that like it's not all connected to religion it doesn't have to make religion go away like that's what i'm saying exactly that's what i'm saying they can weave anything in anything so they could say oh yeah god made them too sure and super easy it's already completely ridiculous we believe in angels and

demons how can't we believe in aliens i mean maybe that's what they are they are yeah angels yes okay keep going all right so what back to bob exler no no that so the vatican everyone's worried about how to tell the the people that aliens exist you are here to tell the people that they do exist and they're friendly. Yes. They have the technology. If they wanted to hurt us, they could have done it a million years ago. So why don't they do it? I think they started showing up right around the time

we invented nuclear technology. Not to say they showed up, but they've probably been around for millions of years. The kids found the matches, right? Us. Us, homo sapiens. We are not... This Earth is so special in

the cosmos, right? We have water. We have a ton of resources. I don't think they're going to let us blow ourselves up. It was like a zoo theory? Where they just watch us? Are they playing SimCity? Possible.

I don't know. Anything's possible, right? Anything's possible. Okay, so if people get encountered with aliens, why are they fucking us? Why are they beating up our guts? Working on our genetics, you mean? Yeah, they're taking and working on our genetics you mean yeah they're taking our guts oh like you mean when they kidnap people yeah that's something that i'm really

concerned about because like people don't want to be abducted right right i have a question and it ruins their lives to that point i have a question what if there's multiple different kinds of alien races both and one's better than the other what if there's one that's really nice and one that doesn't kidnap us and there's another one they don't like each other and that one's kidnapping us and probing us and stuff what if that's going on if there's one alien race why can't there be millions of alien it's not what if it's already been uh paul hillier he was the defense minister of canada for 12 years when he opted out he he spoke in front of a conference and he said there are many races he says we know at least there are four four races one of which is working with the american government do we have pictures all whites

and can we rate who's the hottest to the least hottest of the alien are aliens hot i mean that's up to you because yeah sure what if you're not attracted to aliens but do you think do you think like they're putting alien cum in us and and we're having babies it wouldn't work so how you what do you mean hybrids hybrids so that has to you have to maybe they're maybe it's some sort of genetic sort of, I don't know what they would call it, splicing. He was talking about this yesterday. Gene splicing.

They can't just biologically fuck our... So my philosophy that my mom made love with an alien and I'm an alien, that's not possible. No. You're too good looking of a person to be an alien. Yeah, you're pretty hot. You don't have the black eyes thanks guys but okay what what if religion doesn't exist and aliens are what used to come around all the time three thousand years ago and

that's why people that's what people think the greek gods are and stuff that's what he's talking about that's what he thinks to me that's the most likely scenario if there's aliens yeah i mean okay i'm a christian personally i have my own personal relationship with god like i am like whatever i'm not a preacher or anything i get it you believe what you want to believe but i've had some things happen to me where i'm just like all right i get it you're here whatever but you look at like even jesus story there was a star above bethlehem that sat there and people like this star come from right i mean my i believe that was a ufo because the star doesn't just show up out of nowhere it's just like yeah it was light in the sky nobody understands technology back then anything

that came from the sky was divine it was from god but we didn't know that we were a speck in the universe back then we didn't know there were other galaxies now we realize like any yeah there are probably tons of other so are there different alien species that are out that are meaner than others like yeah we said we were lucky we have a nice we might be the meat of species out there but we just don't have the technology he's right i think we're actually the the problem look what we do on earth we're so why don't they just we're because maybe they need our resources maybe they need who knows you know if they exist i haven't done the research like you have you know so i can't speak to it i think that they from back then even genetically there there's a missing link, right?

There were chimps and then a missing link and all of a sudden, here we are. But doesn't that, so you're saying, I don't know, evolution is a creation of aliens? Evolution's real, but there is a missing link. You have to, where did we

go from this? Is it missing or have we just not found? I mean, that just means we don't know what it is. It could have been intervened. You're talking about the whole how their aliens don't want us to nuke, but we are almost in a nuclear war right now. We're not as close as people.

We're not as close, but will aliens accept nuclear war? No. Would they sweep in and stop it, do you think? They already have. If you do the research, look up UFO shuts down 10 nukes in a beam of light. And these people came out on CNN. Larry King, is that the guy's name?

Yeah, Larry. Shout out to Larry. Yeah, look it up. Shout out to Larry. Much love, it up. Shout out to Larry. Yeah. Much love. RIP. Rest in peace, Big Daddy.

Yeah, love you, man. The good ones die young, anyway. But yeah, look it up. This guy, these people who worked for the military came on his show and they were like, yeah, this came over her place in Montana and it shot a beam of light down and what's weird is that these nuclear missiles are not connected to one another so you'd have to individually shut in

10 down and it did it in a second sat there shot up and it shut down 10 nukes hey look it up and they're like cut this shit out. Yeah, like, stop. But it's hard because... I could fuck with aliens then, I guess. They're like actually peacemakers. They sound better than Kanye. Hell yeah, shout out to Kanye. Hell yeah.

Okay, so we shouldn't be scared of aliens. No. So why are we? Are we? Here's the thing. I'm a little bit. I watch all those movies. I'm way more scared of some guy at the gas station.

Have you seen Signs? You should be scared of us. People. People. Yeah. If we can't accept other race colors of people's skin, how the fuck are they going to accept little four-foot-tall aliens with black eyes? Do you think an alien war would be the best thing to ever happen for racial equality in America

because we'd finally have to band together against something else. That's the question. Yeah, I think so. So maybe then we need to do it. But what's the point? I mean, we're going to band together and they're just going to kill us all. Might be the best thing to happen for racial equality. If everybody's dead, we're all equal. Yeah, I'll clap for that. I'll clap for that. Let's go, Nick. That's a great name. That's a great name. Philosophy Nick. Okay, so Dempsey, explain. So you, they gave you this video.

Do you have the video with you that we can put it right here? We don't want to, we don't want, we need Dempsey around. I don't want the government after. There's some things I don't want to share. I would love if the government was after Dempsey, though. You never showed us this video. You don't show this video to anyone because you're a pro. Oh, it's not a public video.

No. Oh, okay. No. There's an alien, he says. I showed it to you last night. I'm not one part of this. No, you didn't. No, you didn't.

I've never seen it. I didn't see anything. Joe Biden, if you're watching this. So, there's aliens. Can we dress them up? Do, like, what? Can they be part of the community? Do they have a Barbie's dream house we dress them up do like what can they be part of the barbie's dream house we can purchase accepted in human civilization do they come with accessories

yeah dude i don't know what to tell you i i don't know it's all subjective to can you accept it i think i can you know I took them a while. I'd talk about it for years and years. And they're like, Ryan's on drugs. Do people think you're crazy? Were you on drugs? Yeah, I was. To be fair, yes.

But I still believe it. Yeah, I get it. And now it's actually a conversation in the White House. For the first time ever when Trump was in office. Yep. So right before he released the relief bill, when we all got our $1,200 check. It was in there.

It was to the last second. It's the best thing Trump did because I hate Trump. Yeah. And they were like, well, if he doesn't, if Congress doesn't sign this, this is now down to the wire. He gave it to them at the last hour and on page whatever whatever in the middle of the jargon from lawyer crap right he goes by the way congress has to release all they know about ufos in the next uh 10 years or something 152 days or something

very small like thing and they had to do it there's something like that with the jfk assassination that like statute of limitations all this stuff has to come out to okay so what if do you think aliens are gonna come within the next five years yes they're already here he's already nobody like make an introduction Oh like hey we're here we're aliens let us in here so can I ask you why hasn't that already happened like what do you want do you want them to land on the White House and then walk out of a ship? Maybe you're just not looking hard enough, bro.

They've already been here several times. Like, I don't know what you want. So why are we so worried about having the UFO information? Because... Help us. They might have the cure for cancer in that ship. They have... The technology that they have

is so far advanced you got to think about the greedy people of the world already so you can make billions of dollars for the next 50 years just you know slowly trickle feeding this crap that they're they already know but why tell the world you could... Everyone wants to make money, so you have Lockheed Martin. All the nerds. Yeah, I mean, people... I'm with you if you're going to say nerds are going to ruin it.

I'm with that philosophy. They ruin everything. The rich nerds, the billionaire nerds. No, the billionaire nerds. What do you think about Bezos? No, I'm a fan, right? Yeah, fuck that, dude. He's a logistics master.

Fuck Bezos. I want to say that. Okay, let me say something that actually serves your point with the technology thing that I'm trickling in. Right when you said they found the first ship, 19 what? That is kind of right when technology really started popping off around here. I'll give you that. Think about that.

Communications. From the 1947, but the nuclear bomb when the nuclear bomb is 1944 right around that doesn't mean we could have invented the nuclear bomb without them so they're like whoa whoa whoa we saw a bomb blow up this isn't good let's get people watching tv ignoring each other let's let's get you know let's get the internet going let's you know let's not have people you know let's have a distract we should change the narrative about aliens i think a lot of people agree with him i think that i think if you went around the mall and asked 100 people if they think that there is some kind of alien in the universe

whether they're here or not i think a lot of them would say yeah how do we communicate with them telepathically really yeah that's how they speak sick yeah i know it's so they can be in a room and no matter if you're chinese any they can so do not automatically you understand what they're saying in a single thought have you ever had an alien talk to you i was abducted as a kid but what in vermont yeah in vermont and what what the why aren't you just telling me this we've been friends for a I was abducted as a kid, but- What? In Vermont? Yeah, in Vermont. What? What the fuck? Why aren't you just telling me this? We've been friends for a couple years now.

Well, I don't know. Let's talk about this. You got abducted? What do you remember? Man, it's intense, dude. So I was in bunk bed with my brother, and I remember everything about this moment. And I remember when it was happening, I'm like, you're awake. This is

because I remember the light on in the bathroom. I remember the picture frames and everything. And my dad was frozen in time. So a light went through my window and I think it was like 10 years old or something, maybe nine. And I was

so scared. I felt like, oh my gosh, there's a light, maybe nine. And I was so scared. I felt like, oh my gosh, there's a light in the window. So I ran out to the hallway and my dad was frozen. So their technology, they can stop time around anything they want. So, and this is something I didn't realize this as a kid until I started researching like a lot of stories. You look at Benny and Barney Hill, the first case of abduction. Their car was literally frozen in time.

It didn't turn off, but it did. And then as soon as the thing left, it was on again. It's not like they had to restart the car. It's just like they have technology to freeze. So you saw a light yeah so i ran out and my dad was frozen in the hallway and i was so scared because he couldn't help me and i was pounding on his chest daddy please help me daddy please help me and i slowly uh i don't remember anything else they took you that's what i remember but i don't remember anything else so what about

what do you remember when you woke up? I woke up very scared and then ran into my parents' room about three hours later. Lost time. How do you not know this wasn't a nightmare? I was going to say. That's the thing. I mean, it was too real, though. I don't know. If you read a lot about abduction stories, though, how do you say the same thing to all those people?

How do you know that wasn't a nightmare? Yeah. Damn, Vermont is lit. You hear a lot of people get abducted out there. I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that.

I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that. alien hybrids like reptile people just anything like are there any celebrities you know sammy hagar yeah i don't know him personally but i know who he is yeah look at his story what is it it's just like mine he you think he's an alien no but he he came out and said this is what happened i mean he's got a crazy story about how he met aliens and he was downloaded with a bunch of uh information you got to look it up. What did you get downloaded with? I don't know, man. Again, I could

get hypnotically regressed, but I'm scared to do that. That's the one thing that abductees can do. What? Scared to open that door and see what's in there? I don't want to know. Did you have any back pain? Ass pain? Just ask, Andy.

Just ask what you want to ask. Did you get fucked by an alien? What you got to think is, did you get fucked by an alien? I don't know, man. I don't want to know. One may love to. You don't know the relationship. I hope they come back and explain me. I do hope that one day they come back

and they give me some fucking answer of what happened. I don't know if it will happen. But there's no celebrities you think might be aliens? and they give me like some fucking answer of what happened. I don't know if it will happen. Maybe. But there's no celebrities you think might be aliens? Celebrities. Like Jason Han or something.

This is, I don't know. I'm mind fucked that Jason Han, did you say is an alien? I'm just kidding. Wait, from Stranger Things? Yeah. He's my buddy. Jason Han, shout you say? Is that alien? I'm just kidding. Wait, from Stranger? Yeah. He's my buddy, yeah. Jason Hahn. Shout out to Jason Hahn. He would be honored.

Maybe he is. Jason Hahn. I remember the first time I got to hang out with him was with Stoops, and we were in New Haven, Connecticut, and as he was driving Stoops away, I jumped on his car and pretended to get hit. Wow. I don't know. Sounds like a Dempsey thing to do.

Yeah. Dempsey, this is really serious. Yeah. Does it fuck you up no not anymore what about in the beginning years when you just got abducted did you know you did you know it was abduction or did you just feel like you had a bad dream well back before i started researching like i was like was crazy. But then when you realize that millions of people have gone through this millions, millions, millions, and millions of people, why the fuck haven't we got abducted? I want to get, uh, I want to get abducted, but I don't want to get fucked. They probably watched the podcast.

Like, I don't want to do that. Girl, I got a fucking idiot. He thinks, you know, everything is going to just be like, you guys are not really aliens. You're not that cool. Okay. Like I see right through you. How old are just be like, you guys are not real aliens. You're not that cool. Okay. I see right through you. How old are you? Oh, you're a millennial alien.

Oh, cool. Do you invest in NFT? So you're an NFT alien. Let me guess. You're way into crypto, huh? I bet you invented it. I bet you brought it from space. Maybe the inventor of crypto.

No one knows who the inventor of crypto is. Maybe it's one of the aliens. I mean, Bitcoin. People know who the Ethereum inventor is. So what do you think aliens think about how we run the world? If they like it, they should get the fuck out of here because they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. I think they do want to talk to, this is where the conspiracy comes in.

Everyone's like, America's trying to be globalists and i think that is the the way that it actually is kind of going to turn out because they want to speak to one person yeah yeah yeah not oh now we got to deal with north korea and china playing telephone like we're not on the same page as humans you know like we all have agendas you know how that goes you start playing telephone the whole message gets messed up. So if you had one global, I just don't get how aliens could just live here and be like, yo, yeah, these guys are doing it right because they're just watching us. Maybe they don't get, maybe they're like, maybe they're observing

us like a science project. We might be some giant guys staying in a little cardboard box. He's putting on a science project. We could be in that. We don't know't know we have no clue how this podcast is getting heady but I mean I believe in aliens no offense I definitely believe in aliens before I believe in God actually I think it's more likely like I think I do too what if they are gods that's what I'm saying that's what I think I think that they are gonna that like the original whatever greek gods were aliens

checks out for me more than there's a god that there's a magical thing in the sky you know what i mean you need to read tom de long's book it's called uh secret machines all right that's how the book ends and he actually should i spoil it yes go ahead it uh so how long has it been out uh four years you can spoil it then okay yeah so, yeah. So he actually met with people in the White House and the Pentagon. They briefed him. They took him. If you read this book, it's crazy. So he is in connection with actually the people that are in this whole thing and like he's getting drip-freed from them so one of the lieutenants that he talked with

before he put out the book secret machines the the guy said before he left he goes I just want you to think about something like think about the Greek gods and the stories behind it and he told him that yeah pretty much this is like from the beginning like they were back there also like but the greek gods were like angry they're fire there's all greek god for everything there's a greek god for sex there's a greek god that's what i'm trying to say yeah that means there's different breeds of aliens that's been here. Yeah, maybe. For a long time.

Maybe they used to come a lot more. Maybe it takes them forever to get here. Maybe they came, you know, we don't know. Look up Clifford Stone, Sergeant for the Army. He came out and said, there are 57 different species that we've categorized, whatever. Sorry, this should be a VIP set at summer camp. You should just talk about aliens for an hour.

You are looking like Hunter S. Thompson these days. I would go listen to this. I would go listen to this over a bluegrass band for sure. Keep going. This is crazy. We might make this its own episode. That's what I'm saying. To all the audience that's

watching, look up Clifford Stone. Sergeant Clifford Stone. He came out in the uh national press club in washington dc and said that we've categorized 57 different species of aliens when he was working and uh he he says that there are aliens walking around among us like they look like you and me you never know and he and you know this was filmed in front of like nbc like there were members of congress there that was right before 9 11 and it kind of 9 11 happened like nobody would care anymore yeah that makes me feel so much better maybe that's why 9 11 happened

bro honestly whoa rumsfeld started looking into 9 11 let's go cut that break that out just a three second that's the ad for this week let's go let's go aliens 9 11. okay so if there's all this information out why are we still making this a conspiracy because because you got to keep it a secret because they're making money off the technology people the the powers that be it's all compartmentalized like why with what you know with the technology is there's another reason magic there's another reason they can't if it's real tell everyone in the world at once because people would freaking freak out and there would be some sort of who knows the economy would collapse maybe there'd be some crazy who knows what would happen in a white claw while he's

talking about it's noon on a Monday we attacked the capital of our country because Trump decided he didn't want to lose perfect right can you imagine like those fucking stupid people getting arrested and bludgeoning cops over stupid shit. Can you imagine like, well, aliens are real. Like those people would,

all these crazy eval evangelical Christians who knows what they would do, dude. Oh my God. I think it's the rapture and start blowing themselves up or something. Exactly. What's going to happen. See, I know everything,

Ryan, what they're going to start blowing everyone up or just blowing themselves. Who knows? Like, come on, this is it. They think Christ is coming and Who knows what would happen? You can't just tell 6 billion people there's aliens.

You can't do it. No, you can't. You can't even tell 6 billion people a lot of things. You can't tell them the McRib is in the back. So why hasn't the government killed off Tom DeLonge for trying to put up all this information? Because he's a part of it. I mean, he made a book.

They let him in. because he's a part of it i mean he made a book they let him in he has more um connections and people that i've known who who've been studying it for 30 years even uh bob exler who died he's like tom de long this is fun this to talk about he's he's really he's on to something man where are you aliens i'm not from all the small things you can't true beings oh where are you all the small things aliens are four inches taller four feet tall okay but he's like i came in here he's a very respected figure in the community okay he's really doing a good job it. He's a very respected figure in the community. He's really doing a good job.

It seems like it. So Dempsey. Yeah. Do people think you're crazy? Yeah. But you're so passionate about this. Before you tell them this or after you tell them this? The thing is, is I don't care anymore.

Thank God. Let's go. Fuck yeah. Fuck them, Dempsey. Way more fun to be crazy it is crazy i know i know i'm crazy and like people don't know if i'm joking half the time or being serious this is very serious to me i do online i have a persona of being like ridiculous and just causing a stir i like to have social experiments but when it it comes to the UFO alien topic,

I'm very serious. Wow. That's probably the most... I think I'm actually here on this earth to get this out more than being a musician. I think my purpose on this earth is to actually be involved with aliens. Not doing thread or working with Mahali?

Not being a piano player, not being in Twitter. Wow. Why isn't Tom DeLonge fucking with you, man? You need to buy in with these other musicians, band with them, and create a musician's alien. I'm going to help you fulfill this dream. Please.

I want it to be true, what he's saying. Oh, my God. I'm going to have three weeks of you telling me about aliens on this tour. By the way, Twiddle Andy Frasca tour april 8th through when are we on tour you're like most of april all of april yeah buy your tickets um we're playing big rooms and we need everyone there and i'll be here and maybe we'll have an opening opening of me interviewing dempsey every night about aliens yeah yeah let's do a VIP package. Yeah. We'll have that sound. Is there a 103?

Sound check. Is there a 103? That could be the 103. We could just do it like how they do. 103 is when there's a... People like watch, sound check, and shit. That bullshit. Okay, I'm free.

Just say I'm free. Everyone does that. Oh, really? Yeah, a lot of people do that. Oh, I thought just I'm free said it. We're going to do that with just me and Dempsey in a dark-ass room drinking White Claws and telling our fans that aliens exist.

What a hustle. The VIP set is such a good hustle. I mean, it's not about aliens, but... It's good money. Shout out to Humphreys. I mean, people, it's kind of cool. Make that money. Can I tell you something about Humphreys real quick? Yes. I got to interview Gilbert Godfrey.

He's always listening. Give me an Humphreys. When I was in college college i went to higher ground and i met joel from umfrey's like yeah hot joel now joel he's not oh yeah no i've heard about it yeah he rebranded him and i was so excited he smoked a joint with me out back and i went home you know back to college and i told everyone like oh my god i get to hang out with joel from mumfries and then he came back like a year later and i expected him to remember that experience like and this is why i think it's funny like being in twiddle like everyone's like oh you remember me back in like 2016 we met at a gas station it's like um no but but i remember like thinking joe would be like hey ryan

what's up how's twiddle and like he was like i'm on the phone and he went into tour bus it's like i don't have time for you remember me i was the guy in the hoodie no we smoked a joke i was the guy in the hoodie that smoked weed at your concert i was so hurt though yeah my. My favorite band. I'm freezing. I remember now. Yeah. I told him this story on GM crews to rebranding him back from hot till now. The rude, rude, cool. I'd rather be rude than old. Yeah, true. I just thought it was fun. No, he's still hot. That's not his fault. You said it all. Well, you haven't said it all. I know you're hiding a lot of stuff. A lot of stuff. I feel like this could be a nine hour. I think we should just do like a-

We just have a- During the- Patreon content. Yeah. We're going to- I think maybe we start a side pod where Dempsey talks about aliens. Yeah. I'll interview him every week.

All right. So go back to- I'm still so curious of how we are hybrids and how just like aliens- Like if they don't, why are they, why are they in our asses? How can I get into buy tickets to my show? How can I buy? Yeah.

How can I be a friend with them? They buy merch. Will they buy an NF fresco NFT if he makes one? Yes. I want to be in the alien. I can't give you any answers to anyone that knows that that says they know. Don't believe it. We're still in the process of, you got to look at information and come up with

your own you know once you read a ton of books about this thing you kind of like that's probably why they're doing this but nobody really knows i don't think the military knows and that scares the shit out of them because they're supposed to be protecting us so how can the military be like which they did the pent Pentagon's like yeah we have craft in our possession not made on this Earth and we're like uh wait what and they have no answers so like that's kind of scary because we pay the military to have the answers so I don't know if anyone really knows what the fuck's going on wow but we're slowly gonna figure it out you gotta just like talk to other people and read about all these other experiences

and read the credible people. I'm talking like Paul Hellyer. The guy from Blink-182. Blink-182, yeah, I'm telling you. It's just so funny to like, one of the world experts on the scientific field, a NASA guy, Blink-182 singer, another NASA guy, researcher.

Ryan Dempsey from Twiddle. guy researcher Ryan Dempsey from twiddle yeah Ryan Dempsey from twiddle I'm just uh you know I'm I research I'm not a ufologist though I can't claim that called ufologist everyone goes ufologist I'm like ufology yeah unidentified flying ology yeah Yeah. Okay, so Ryan, how can we get this information out there where people don't think you're crazy? The government has to release it. You just got to look at credible people, like people that work in the military,

people that work in the White House. Here's where you lost me. You're saying that credible people work in the White House? No, sorry, sorry. You're right, you're right. Air Force, military, people that can identify things that are not aircrafts

and not just like Joe Schmoe's, like, what is that? Right, right, right. These are people that have come out and now there's video of things shooting at 30 miles an hour with no acceleration or de-acceleration, whatever it is. It doesn't make logical sense, defies laws of physics.

It's all been out there. You've got to look at it, and they've been announcing this stuff, that there's no way this thing could do this in anything that we own, anything the Russians own. That we know of. So that has to be... You know, what's Occam's razor? What's the most...

Logical is probably... I'm trying to get some alien pussy. Oh, God. Well, she's 10 years older. Do aliens age? Hopefully one of your teachers was an alien in high school. Oh, my God. She called me. Did I tell you that? Yeah, you did.

You didn't listen. Did you ever listen to the voicemail? No, but she called me again and I answered. We'll talk about that. Oh. Okay. Well, I have actually a question about the human hybrid thing again. How many do you think there are on earth out of the 7 billion people?

How many aliens are there? 500 million, 40 million, a billion. Again, I would say just go and listen to Clifford Stone, Sergeant Clifford Stone. He says they walk around every day and you would never know. They have a heightened sense of smell, taste, like they can touch an object in the room and know what color it is. They're like indigo children.

Maybe that's what psychics are and they don't know their aliens. Abduction, sure. Your brother didn't get abducted? Why did you get abducted and your brother didn't? Good question. Maybe he didn't. He doesn't remember it. He said you would have had the same feeling.

Why'd they pick you, Ryan? I don't know, man. I have no answer to that. Maybe they could sense that he's open to their existence like ghosts. What about your dad? What did he you say he has no memory of what i keep bringing up my dad don't you remember i'm pounding on your chest screaming for your help but he was just frozen and that was the scariest thing as a kid like your father your protector is not able to move and literally just in this frozen state you think about that though as a kid like was i watching tv that made me think of like i always thought like something i was watching maybe it was a crazy dream but that happened to me there's

a crazy dream or a thing i thought i saw i was like four but then like three years later three years ago I was like oh no it was the mailman what about Mickey is Mickey an alien I think Mickey do Holly oh can I tell you a story about Mahali that yeah he he's a universal in like the things that happens to him is insane like I don't want to get too far into his background but um his father left him a notebook through his aunt who lived in uh great britain and he started writing the lyrics i can't i think it was like Lost in the Cold or something. And his aunt, after he wrote the lyrics, sent him his father's journal

verbatim lyrics that he had already written. What? Blew my fucking mind. His father's passed away or something? Yeah. Okay. And he didn't have a relationship with his father, so he didn't know anything about this? He... Dude, I can't get into it. It's going to make me cry me I'll talk about you talk to Mahal I don't want to like

that's pretty heavy that's the same I feel that's parallel with alien shit you can do even ghosts yeah okay absolutely you've ever seen a ghost yes yeah I was talking to the Patterson you know Chris he owns the Patterson's one of the most haunted buildings in Denver but yeah I was when I got like completely sober I was watching Netflix with my wife and this Bernie Sanders like in the shape of a Vermont like license plate thing it was sitting on the and it just started dangling and floating and it came up to us and it floated and I'm like what the fuck is going on and it shot into the kitchen and i was like alex did you just see that how am i supposed to like

what what do we do she's like yeah that's just happened is it the ghost reminding you to renew your license plate tags the ghost was saying yeah right yeah it's two weeks yeah exactly you're gonna get pulled over you idiot god it's all white people here're going to get pulled over. You idiot. God, it's all white people here. You're going to get pulled over. We've been having the most different ideas of ghosts and men. Actually need someone to be in the middle, probably to keep them. You know, Michael Minnert is a ghost. He's seen so many ghosts. He had a ghost in his old house. It's like nine, nine different people have seen it.

I never saw it. I can't believe you got abducted. You don't tell people this? I don't know, man. Like people just, it's a laughing matter. Do you feel, did you feel anything? Did you feel your like liver? Was it pain, aches, nothing?

No. They're like, He just wants to know if you got raped. And Andy, everything doesn't have to go back to sex okay did you make love it is very possible that something very traumatic happened maybe that's why i got into drugs and was a opiate addict for a long time and you know because like i i've had no my parents were great they raised me well Like, why did I ever get on drugs? And then my mom asked me once,

she's like, were you ever like molested as a child? And I was like, yeah, I got abducted by aliens. And she's like, I want to talk about that. She religious? Yeah. So she didn't want to like. She doesn't even want to even talk about that. So it's kind of, it kind of makes my heart sad for you

that you can't really know one. You can't really go anywhere to tell anyone this information besides us. Besides us and the thousands of people. And my wife. And the thousands of thousands of people listening to podcasts. And the thousands of people watching. Whatever, man.

I'm cool with it now. Did it fuck you up, though? Did it make you a loner? You felt like you were just misunderstood and couldn't talk to people about your feelings? Yeah, probably. I mean, I've also seen discs throughout my life. I mean, only on three occasions,

but this stuff keeps happening. And yeah, there was a disc above my house one day. I was playing basketball, completely silent. And it just sat there. And I was like, what the fuck is going on? Do you believe DMT is the portal to talking to aliens? I have done DMT once. One of the most amazing experiences I've ever had.

Really? Billy Strings said he went into an alien ship from DMT. And they talked to him. He said, it's not your time yet. He's famous, so it must be true. That's what they told me, too. They said, you can't be here yet. I'll show you around.

I had a guide, which was a big tree woman. She has, like, faces on every side. Why does nothing ever happen to me? Why the fuck can I do that shit when I'm on DMT, too? Oh, you got to go. You got to, yeah, see. You're outside of your body, and it's ego death. Look, we should take DMT when we are on tour.

Okay. Yeah, do it right before. I have some at my house, hidden away. Yeah, bring it on the bus. I don take DMT when we are on tour. Okay. Yeah, do it right before. I have some at my house hidden away. Yeah, bring it on the bus. Doesn't it not last very long? Hey, can I sleep on the tour bus one night? You're done. Can I sleep on the tour bus for one night?

Maybe have like a slumber party me and you? Snuggle party? I'll sleep with you. I'll snuggle with you. The bed's small. I never slept in a tour bus. I like to snuggle. He snores really loud.

I would love to sleep on that tour bus. I've never slept in a tour bus. It's so loud. Yeah, there's an extra bed everyone's gonna yeah that'd be great because then the band wanted to be around you yeah i would love to sleep at the tour bus with you guys okay and we could talk about ghost stories you could tell me about your family we'll put up a little light so tell me about your mother all right i gotta go interview with godfrey. Ryan Dempsey, this was amazing. What'd you think? What'd you think? Are you a believer?

I want me and him to do like four hours of this. Are you a believer? In what? There's so many different versions of this that could exist. I'm starting to believe. Do I think humans? I think I believe Dempsey. But I'm not saying I don't believe him.

Do I think human beings are the only thing in the universe that's ridiculous to think that there's no way that only we exist we don't even know how big the universe is we can't even conceptualize it even if we did have the mass whole idea that aliens are with us right now um i don't think it's impossible that's fair let me send you some links if i had i mean i'll, I'll read the links. I'll read the links. This sounds like a pyramid scheme. No, no, no. You just got to see. How much is, I got 80 bucks. You really feel incredible people.

$85. You get a one-year membership, okay? And then once a month, you pay 20 bucks, and you get a different book about aliens. And they're real, and this isn't a pyramid scheme at all. And then 10% of your income a month, you give to us to prove that aliens are among us. Okay?

And they will protect you from the aliens if you give them the money. Right? Wow. That sounds like a religion. This is real music. Hey, wait. That's just Christianity. Oh, yeah.

That's all we're doing. I'm a cat. That's just Catholicism. It's not even original. Brian Dempsey, thank you so much for being on the show. Thank you for your knowledge. Thank you for... That was fun. I can't wait to go on tour with you. All right. I'm jealous your knowledge. Thank you for that's fun.

I can't wait for to go on tour with you. All right. So I'm jealous. I want to go and talk about aliens. I have to sit around here and be around boring Denver people that are going skiing next weekend. You get the fucking go. Who's going to ski? No, I don't ski. You guys shit to do. I got shit to do. My parents aren't rich. Okay. I didn't go skiing when I was nine. That's not weird. Actually. You's not weird actually you're a rich you're a rich kid all right anyway you're 40 get a job just in case this is uh turns out to be a full episode reps.com repsy sign up for reps.com if you're an alien i heard there's a new category for alien entertainers as well there's got to be an alien if this theory is true there has to be at least one alien singer songwriter yeah there's got to be a iggy pop alien again sammy hagar alien look up his story

what about uh uh uh uh ryan dempsey you could be an alien what if you're in highbrow colonel that's colonel bruce possibility colonel bruce yeah colonel br Bruce is for sure an alien he actually he he really spoke very um excessively about aliens really before he died yeah I never met him but he's awesome he believed he had a lot of stories you should look up his stories about Ryan Dempsey from twiddle come catch us on the twiddle tour um but sign up your band for repsy this is uh repsy.com baby if you're a musician if you're an actor that wants to entertain and just do a do a 40 minute monologue if you're a wedding planner if you're a venue an independent venue anyone could sign up for repsy.com um get some fees let's get the arts back popping it is the roaring 20s, kind of. There's a war.

Without the prohibition. Without the prohibition. Well, now the impending economy collapse. Yeah, that's... Well, Ryan, you've said it all. Oh, I don't think he's come close to saying it all. I have a lot more to tell you. I know we're coming down to it. We're going to do more of these, I think.

We're definitely going to go. When we're on tour together, I'm sleeping on that bunk bed. You promised. Remind me the next time we do this about my interaction with someone I met from the Illuminati. Do that quickly. Can we? We got time.

We got four minutes. I want to tell you some shit that will blow your mind. I lived across from a bar on the lake in bamazine and um we met this guy and he's really like unique dude he was very like whatever around the bar just like one of those people you're like who is this guy and i told him because i knew the bartender i'm like let's play a prank on the bartender and you pretend to beat the shit out of me

and see what he does. Because I just thought it was funny. You're fucking sucky. He's like, yeah, I'm totally about this. So he threw me to the ground and started pretending to punch me. And Mike Mimunez, the bartender, pulls out a gun. He goes, get the fuck off him right now.

And pulled a gun on him. I was like, dude, we're just joking. We're just joking. He's like, why'd you do, that's not funny i was like oh sorry so i ended up talking to this guy outside who are your friends dude but this is the weirdest friend this guy i'll never meet again and we were having a drink outside and i was like that was so fun he's like ryan he knew my name he knew everything about me he goes do you believe in the illuminati he's like ryan he knew my name he knew everything about me he goes do you believe in the illuminati he's like i know you live right there i know you're in the band twiddle i know

you were a dope addict and i know you're all being served you have to be in court dude no no it was weird i'm like who are you who are you he's like do you believe in the Illuminati? I was like, yeah, I studied it. Yeah, of course. He's like, I'm in the Illuminati. He goes, do you believe in good and evil? I'm like,

yeah. He's like, I'm about to take down some evil stuff that's going on. He's like, do you want to do some cocaine with me in the bathroom up in the hotel? And I was like, what? He goes,

yeah, the government gives it to me, so I have to do it anyway so you want to come up if you can't hear me on audio i'm looking very doubtedly at ryan right now dude i shit you know i swear on my mother's life this happened so does he know beyonce i don't i don't know i i was just in for the ride at this point i'm like all right man what about tom cruise no he's in the scientology they're not there's something else I think they're okay so you did cocaine in the bathroom okay so no no he goes when we go up to the room

keep your head down and do not talk to anyone what I'm like okay so we're gonna go to the bathroom we're gonna do bump so I get up to the hotel room there are three computers on each side with all these women and people like on headphones and it sounds like a south park episode no it was absolutely insane he goes keep your head down and they were like what the is he doing here shut up we're doing some blow and we went dude they had a whole system set up with computers it was a it was a thing they were doing who are you no no but this is where it proves it all true is like i i'm like am i gonna get arrested like you guys seem like cops it's like

yeah we they pay us for the drugs though like wow we know who you are just do a line we did a bump in the bathroom and then he's like keep your head down again walk through through this huge computer system, bunch of people working. And I'm like, what the fuck was that? And he goes, he goes, um, we're about to take down, you know, a big, a big bust. He's like, my mom died of the OC pandemic and she overdosed and, and I'm going to make this right. all this so the next two days later wait wait hold on how long ago was this this was back when i was living in that house probably like 2016. oh i thought you meant during this pandemic no no no this was a while ago but it was it was really cool because he knew who I was. So I'm like, this guy, and also witnessing the six people on computers in his,

he's like, I'm supposed to blend in with society. That's my job. I'm supposed to be like that crazy guy in the bar. That's what they do. Like DEA, whatever the fuck he was, which I think it was DEA. The next day or the next two days, it was in the front page of the paper, like a million-dollar bust went down

and never saw him again. And he was kind of like alluding to that, that he's been sitting there for weeks about to set up this heroin bust. Was it good? I mean, that was government-paid-for cocaine. It wasn't bad. As soon as you get to the, as soon as you get to the pub, paid for by the government.

He's like, as soon as he gets done, give me the cocaine. He hits you up for a fest, a guest festival guest pass. Wow. No, I'll never see that guy again from aliens. Can I get a plus one to your show at Garcia's? Yeah. For whatever the Capitol theater to not being accepted by your mother to the Illuminati, the Illuminati. You've said it all.

Yeah. What an hour, Ryan. What an hour. All right. Thank you so much. I can't wait to do this again. I can't wait to get deeper.

I want to get deeper on that. That you, I think you nailed something in the head about the addiction thing and why you got addicted because it might have been the abduction. Or because drugs feel really good. That's what I always thought. All my friends would have these stories

and I'm like, I just like getting high. No, you may be hiding something. Not everyone. I feel like some people just really like getting high. Have you seen Euphoria? No everyone. I don't know. I feel like some people just really like getting high. Have you seen Euphoria? No, but I don't think Euphoria is what you should use to judge drug use in society. It's a drama about high school kids and wherever you live. Okay.

We got to go. Okay. All right. Thanks for having me. You want to give people motivation. Yeah. The ending motivation. I want you to let the world know how they're going to have a great week.

Even if you see an alien or get abducted, give us why people should have a good week. You should have a good week because this life is completely, we're on this planet and a spinning rock floating through space. We have no idea why we're here. Like why, why are we here? What are we doing? The best thing you can do is to be loving and help people and i promise you the karma whatever you want to call it if you do good things for people and not care about yourself it comes back to you like in ridiculous universal ways so i would suggest be really kind and do something go out of your way to go do something good for someone, you know,

whatever that is. Hell yeah. I feel like that it comes back. Ryan Dempsey. It's been a pleasure. Thank you so much for having me. Aliens, aliens,

Illuminati, and Coke. I want to go to the Twitter festival. Now it's like a perfect podcast. I can't wait to see it. I'm very honored to be on your show. Thank you. I'll see you next week.

Bye. See you next week. And we'll see you next week, too. Get out of here, Ryan. Have fun on your fancy vacation, Andy. Have fun on... I'm going on vacation. I'll be here in my apartment.

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