Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 170: Nick and Andy Reunite

Episode Date: May 3, 2022

A tearful reunion between two old friends... Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out Andy's new song, "Puff Break (Believe That)" on iTunes, Spotify    Produced by Andy Frasco Joe Angelhow Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Arno Bakker

yo andy dave ratner calling you back um van rental sounds interesting sounds like it has a lot of liability so a limited liability company is a really good idea um and i definitely got friends who run bus companies and things like that so let's talk hey and Hey, Andy, this is Rebecca, Jill's older sister. I heard you've been dating my little baby sister, which I don't know how I feel about that, but I don't like it, Andy, because I have seen your shows. She showed me videos and I see those antics on stage, and I think they're disgusting, okay? Have some class. Like, all the things you do, you're talking about sex and your penis size, which is if it's that small, I don't know how she's satisfied in the first place.

But then you're drinking Jameson, you're talking about girls, and just, just, her to my sister, I will fucking kill you you understand like she's a good girl She does not belong with this bullshit rock star lifestyle Okay, so please watch out and I guess I will meet you for dinner at some point. Okay, but you phone away Who's calling me now? phone away. Okay, Andy Frasco. Bring it on. Get your goddamn phone. Who's calling you right now? Somebody's trying to sell me a loan. All right.

Here we go. Wow. And we're back. Finally. Back in your beautiful arms. Andy's back from his six-week vacation. Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco. Today, we finally have-

How's your hearts? How's your hearts? How's your minds? I was more excited. I'm excited about their hearts. That's for your mom. Yeah, it is. She wanted you to fire me because she thinks I'm the reason you stopped saying that.

Let me go there. This one's for my mom. How's your hearts? How's your minds? Are you staying out of trouble? Are you not letting the demons get to your goddamn head? You're getting that pastor thing going. Not letting the demons.

Tell you what, brother. Man, we got Nick Gerlach back in my arms. Finally. You fucking missed me. The people have spoken. You know. I guess. Of course, he had to come back on the show

because he's a new fan of the Colorado Rockies. He had to wear the hat. I'm super into the Rockies now. I'm a Rockies guy. I like the hat, too. It's cool looking. They have great colors. They do. Purple. I went to their game against the Phillies last week, and I walked around the merch store for a while. A lot of great

stuff in there. Did you buy anything? I bought this hat. Oh, cool. It's only $25. Clap up. Nice bargain. Yeah. Nice hat. Bargain. I'm going to get some other stuff next time I go. I'm going to be going to anything i bought this hat oh cool going 25 bucks clap up nice bargain yeah nice bargain i'm gonna get some other stuff next time i go i'm gonna be going to some games this year they should send me some free merch i know you're not going to tell me this but i've been i've had recon from your girlfriend and she says oh she's just it's i'm not as busy you miss miss me. Well, she is a liar, first of all. No, no. She said, like, please come home early.

Please come home early. I don't know what Nick is doing. He doesn't know what to do with himself. That's a little true, actually. What's going on? Well, it's just you keep me busy sometimes. I keep... You're the only person in Denver that wants to ever do anything.

Well, because my love for you is strong. Your love for me is strong. Guys, we're going to have... We're just going to do a full recap. I haven't talked to Nick, but the only time we talked to Nick. We didn't talk that much when you were gone. No,

you just do fine or okay. Well, I'm not really into like, I don't like to, you know. You don't like feelings. I like feelings, but I'm just saying,

I'm not going to bother you. I know how you are on the road. So like I've been on the road with you. You're not going to, you don't really want to text people all day. So I don't be hitting you up. You're working, you're sleeping. But I do love you up you're working you're sleeping but i do love hearing from you you do love every once in a while i'll be like how's brian you know yeah

we're not getting along right now now we are yeah i know it comes together that's a good good me and brian are good now it comes to kill sometimes sometimes aggressive but it's always passive aggressive yeah at the long run it's just a short run you Well, if you don't hate your manager a little bit, things aren't, that's actually good. You want a little tension there. I agree. You know, you got to push each other. Yeah.

And if like, if you're getting along too well, it means maybe things aren't going that great or something. Or you're stagnant. You know what I mean? You want, you got to, if you're arguing about something, that means stuff's going on. One of the best things Brian ever did in my career is when the pandemic happened

he came to my house and said you got to be on the internet yeah you already were you weren't on the internet not really i was just doing the podcast and yeah i did but it wasn't like the streaming like get in get in that get balls deep in the internet you know what yeah he's like i know you're not going to want to do the acoustic gig you know live stream thing it's not you but like figure out cool shows that fit your personality but you need to get on there this is the show was fun it was a blast we did a great job yeah i did a couple of them at the end yeah i'm really proud of what we did in quarantine just like you know we had no ideas coming into it yeah brian's you know he's enterprising yeah

he pushes you know he'll push the train along he'll get cuz like sometimes when you fight it's not always his fault no I have a nap you're both I was pretty passive-aggressive I have a bunch of stuff to talk to you about Puerto Rico oh I can't wait I got made fun of for you going to Puerto Rico what do you mean I made a Facebook post I actually deleted it cuz I do this one people get certain everything I say online is a complete bullshit lie joke and people don't get that so i made some a post i was like elon musk this is before he bought twitter i was just like he seems insufferable to be around just like he's a dork yeah yeah not like i don't we know you don't like nerds yeah but i don't give a what he's doing or whatever but then some guys like that

must be easy to complain with your white privilege going to puerto rico i was like number one with your white privilege going to Puerto Rico. I was like, number one, bitch. Number one, I didn't go to Puerto Rico. Okay. I wasn't even invited to Puerto Rico too. I get that I have white privilege. That's not the problem, but I'm making fun of a fucking billionaire white guy. People are, are you gotta be very cautious. I like it though. I like a little pushback. I'm not a pussy. So it's like, you know, see, know see i uh i ripped on that dude in that yeah that chat room and you know i'm like facebook yeah and people were talking about twiddle and pigeons and our show but then to be fair like most people

were on your side yeah yeah yeah yeah like you gotta slap these trolls every once in a while every once in a while like of course i have white privilege i'm a white guy from the midwest but like versus elon musk his dad owned a goddamn emerald mine in south africa like yeah my dad's a engineer like or whatever salesman you know i hit up nick before i posted it i'm like is this too mean to say he's hit me up yeah yeah and you're like no no he's like yes i'm supposed to be the bad guy let me be the bad guy you're like, no, no. He's like, yes, I'm supposed to be the bad guy. Let me be the bad guy. You're supposed to be the good guy. It's kind of true, though. Yeah, but fuck that.

I need to protect my friends. You were good. That was a good one. That was a good one. I'm done with these trolls. I'm done with these trolls. Sometimes when you say Nick to me, I think you're talking about Nick McDaniels.

Oh, sometimes he's my... He's your real Nick. He's like the more... He's coach. He's coach Nick. He helps me a lot with some shit. Shout out to Nick McDavid. Yeah, I'm not anti-Nick. I'm just saying when I hear the word Nick, I don't think of myself.

But that's so funny. They think we're just attached to the hip. Yeah. I love it. He's like, you went to Puerto Rico? I was like, first of all, no, I didn't even go to Puerto Rico. The thing you're calling me white... And he's like, your little show. I was like, you have this show. It's not like NBC hired me to do a show.

We make our own fucking show and we put it out on YouTube and Spotify. Like there's no, one's asking us to do this. It's not, you know what I mean? I don't know. And it's like versus Elon Musk. The guy has more money than everybody on earth. Basically. Why?

I don't understand why he thinks Twitter is worth $53 billion. It's not 44 billion. First of all, the company had a great year last year. They did 5 billion in revenue, which is like a billion more than they did the year before. Something like that. And they still lost $200 million in 2020.

I have a theory about this. Let me finish this part though. 2020, they lost over a $1 billion. I feel like this is his like a midlife crisis. I'm buying a Porsche thing. You know what I mean? I'm buying Twitter.

I don't think he actually gives a fuck about free speech or anything like that. Well, maybe he does to some degree, but I think he really gives a fuck about looking cool for his nerd fans because he's a nerd. This all comes back to the nerd thing. He's a nerd. He's got a fedora on. This is just like Twitter's his fedora.

The $44 billion fedora, but guess is just like Twitter's his fedora. Yeah. The $44 billion fedora. But guess what? You don't all look cool. Man, fuck nerds. Nerds are the worst. Oh, that was another thing. This guy in the post, this other guy in the post, he's actually pretty cool.

But he's like, whether you like it or not, nerds run the world. I was like, yeah, that's the problem. You guys think you run the world, but you don't run shit. But you're trying to run the world, and you're ruining the rest of it with your stupid-ass tech companies. Wow, you're spicy today. You're coming in hot. Because people are just thinking to shove. I'm also not that mad that Elon Musk bought Twitter, though.

It doesn't really bother me. I don't think he's going to change it that much. You've had a lot of things. Are you okay? I'm great right now. Does anybody really think that he's going to change Twitter that much? No. Does anything ever change that much?

Has anything ever changed since you've been born enough to be like oh that changed no never um my personality towards life not overnight though no it took 34 years yeah i'm talking about like immediately like i'm talking about like a drastic change like right away maybe he's going to put an edit button on there or some like but why do we even care? Because we're, I don't know, actually.

Why are we so consumed? Maybe we have too much time. Billionaires are buying. Because being rich, to be fair, it's pretty fucking cool. Like you can't hate on too much. A lot of the people that hate rich people,

like also wish they were rich. Being rich. I'm not rich, but like I have some wealthy friends and they have a dope life. Their life is way cooler than my life. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

am I like, they're not like, fuck you Elon Musk rich, but they're, you know, a couple of pretty rich guys. I can think of a couple of guys that are like, yeah,

they never have to do anything. They got fuck you money. Fuck you money is a great term. So like that starts at what? A hundred million. Yeah. Probably 200 million. Maybe even 50 million

50 million is you money for sure i think 20 million's you okay but not like five million yeah no five million you still might have to have a job these days like that's what is in like 30 years that's gonna be worth like 150k with inflation inflation joke oh man i love it but yeah being rich that's the thing it's like being rich is sick. Who's rich in our scene? I don't want to call anyone out. Why not? All these NFT guys seem to be making a lot of money, huh? I don't know if they are.

Oh, I know one guy that... I'm not going to say his name because I don't know it for a fact, but he definitely generated a million dollars in revenue on NFTs last year. What? Yeah. Who? I can't say because I don't know if it's... Don't believe about the't want to about the

name believe about the name what was it the rapper oh i've seen him he's fucks with yeah i've seen him on twitter oh he's making that much dough that's what i heard but you know what i mean i heard it from a pretty good source but i don't want to you know it's fun to bleep out names because then people they do that all the time on the comedy podcast i listen to and i'm always like trying to guess who it is yeah it's better than saying it it's kind of like the celebrity network thing it's like let's see you know wow then so what puerto rico i went to puerto rico for three weeks way too long by the way it was a little too long i needed three weeks no you didn't you did not need three weeks in puerto rico why not that's so long to be on vacation why why why is why are we putting a

timeline on enjoying your life because i want to and i feel like that's the truth i think 10 days 10 days three weeks like didn't you miss working a little bit i didn't miss working you didn't miss doing the pod with me at all i did you're like another opening with these guys on a beach all wet these guys are so happy and optimistic. They're pumping me up right now. Nick's here to pump me the fuck down. No, I like you. I'm going to pump you up later,

but you know, you got to be deflated before we can inflate you. Because I don't want you to get bigger than you are now. I'll just get you back to where you are. All right, you're right. Well, we don't want you to be too happy

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ones, just if you want to eat the gummies. Really? I might get those, too, because they're fire as fuck. They're so good. Tastes like a gusher. All right. We can't blow our load too quickly with these guys. They're with him. They're giving as fuck. It's like a gusher. We can't blow our load too quickly with these guys. They're giving us money. True. We talked about Puerto Rico a little bit.

I did drink a lot. You were totally right. Of course I was right. I'm never wrong about anything. It's like my thing. I'm always right. I'm thinking about getting stopped me when I'm wrong. I was talking about this. I was playing with Paris all weekend with Main squeeze and i kept saying it when i would say something stupid and everybody'd laugh and i'd be like stop me when i'm wrong that'd be a funny tattoo to get because i'm actually wrong could you ever live in a beach town yeah yeah yeah why not

on the beach i can see you shirtless just i do like vibing with your your pesky skin. I don't tan well, people. Just getting a tan. There's Nick walking with his new balances on in the sand. Like a fucking sea creature. Yeah, yeah. I don't like any of you. Why is everyone so happy by the ocean? You guys know it's filled with fucking pollution, right? You know what I mean?

But I still live here. Yeah, I like to live here. It's nice out. I like the ocean. You guys know it's filled with fucking pollution, right? You know what I mean? But I still live here. Yeah, I like to live here. It's nice out. I like the vibe. I'm actually not that negative. I'm starting to understand reggae more now. Yeah.

Because when you live on the ocean, everyone's happy. It's like everyone's happy. Everyone's just like... Reggae is very appropriate near water. Yeah, I don't get it. It's so funny. Like bands like was three 11 reggae. I don't know what

they are. Something like that. I mean, there's reggae in there, but there was, it was Porter. It felt like Puerto Rico music scene felt like a Jack Johnson festival meets like a slightly stupid fucking. I mean, I like every band. I like Slightly Stupid. Yeah, they're all right. Jack Johnson stuff. I can't really vibe with that. If I hear Banana Pancakes one more fucking time on this island, I'm going to go fucking nuts, dude. I don't know that much about him,

but just that kind of music isn't really my thing. I can see the lonesome songwriter moving to an island, like a Puerto Rico, and just playing all those sunset sunset bars I mean there's a life to be having and just make a little living and live on the beach I mean it's yeah it's cheap to live in I was in Raccoon for like 10 days and it was 80 bucks no it's kind of expensive but like the locals when you get when you buy rent or pay for rent it's really cheap on the beach thousand bucks i took mushrooms and went to uh did you guys hear that andy fresco took mushrooms write that down everyone in your notebook the

up nick april 1st 2022 indy fresco takes mushrooms have you ever done the bioluminescent water no dude hi i'm nick gerlach do you think i've been to the buyer gets you out of colorado no dude hi i'm nick gerlach do you think i've been to the bio gets you out of colorado you need to you need to take you need to get out of here for a second no not chicago cost money bro i gotta you know i'm a cheap ass i know but anyway talk about the water take care let's not talk about me all right let's talk about this water nick i'm worried about you i'm fine i feel like you're just gonna just be like a denver rat oh you're never gonna leave i leave all the time i went on a whole tour with you i know but, I forced you to do that. It's fun though. I'll go to her anytime. Let's go. Yeah. I love it. I do. Every time I'm off tour, it's

like a little bit of me guys. I love being out there in the world, meeting new people and playing when you're not next to me now. Yeah, that is weird. But twiddles band to play with i had a blast on that tour i don't know why that band gets so much on because okay well all their fans are nerds nerds once again nerds they like their one band they're like star wars people every jam band fan like has their one band and they have to hate every other band or they have two bands their band and like the band their band's friend with yeah so there's just a faction of people that hate twiddle because they blew up kind of fast one year i don't know 2014 or so and the what what yeah but they're just i don't get i don't get because they're not like the technically most crazy technical band out there so people kind of hate on that but it's like i don't know who cares get over yourselves

my homies they're like go play a instrument did you hang out with her what you hang out her at all they're light guy yeah i liked him that's my old roommate in indy you didn't know that no i lived with that guy for like a year and a half i love that dude yeah we were roommates we saw each other like six times what yeah it was when i was in cosby sweater and he was doing lights for like a bunch he's a good light guy he's one of the best yeah um they got a good team so we were roommates but we saw each other literally eight times in a year because we were both on the road. It was when I was on the road, like a lot, a lot more. Yeah. Yeah. And he was on the road. He's always been on the road. I got

a new party machine. I heard and saw, and I have some videos. What Andy? You don't like it. I like it, but I just think it's funny. It's a funny, you know, it's funny how you know, speak your fucking mind. Mr. Man of the people here. Can we pull up the one, uh, was laying on it? Maybe hold on. What a man of the people you're down there on the, you know, you're on the people's level, right? Like it's just you and the people. Yeah. You're with them. You're all one. But then I open up Instagram and I see this video. What is it? You're just doing like you're up six feet in the air doing faith with your feet up, acting like you're in your living room is that well that's my

point people love it but you know it's this looks a little cultured like are you turning into a cult like at what point are you a cult leader i did all these people say you're healing them now and you're fixing their life and you're putting yourself you're on your a rising platform with fog and purple lights coming out of it. Okay. Take this off. Take this off. So then there's Monday morning. And then you got your Monday morning motivation.

Pause this. Pause this. Pause this. Pause it. So which is it? Are you a man of the people or are you a cult leader? Or are you both? I'm not in a cult.

No, you're not in a cult. It's your cult. You know what I mean? People aren't saying I'm healing them. I've seen it online. Really? Yeah. I was like, I almost want to message them.

Be like, please, please go to therapy immediately. I will give you 80 bucks. No, we, no, we, I preach happiness. And some people need it. I understand, but colds can be good. Yeah. There are good colds. That's the thing. People don't understand that. Just because a cold is, but cults can be good. There are good cults. That's the thing. People don't understand that.

A cult is not always bad. There are different versions of a cult, too. I was in Ogden last weekend. Then I did, because they're all super Mormon out there. I opened up with the classical music. Ha, ha, ha, ha.

Carmina Burana is what that's called by George Orff. Yeah. And I said, another Jew has risen. Oh, my God. It was like. Did that land? It landed. They're laughing.

It was ballsy. I've actually heard that people in Utah have like a really good sense of humor. Yeah, they do. All the comedians say that that one place, Salt Lake City, and Wise Guys or whatever is like one of the best in the world. Yeah. Probably a reactionary thing to the Mormon thing. Do you think it's sacrilegious to do a horror

on Easter? Yes. Oh, on Easter? I don't know. I don't care. I lost a lot of Christian fans. I mean, I enjoy sacrilegious kind of stuff. I lost a lot of Christian fans because I did that. A lot? Like four? I don't know, like 30. That's the thing that bothers the Christians about you all of a sudden?

Enjoying celebrating Jesus? I mean, Jesus was Jewish. He was. And you're just being like, hey, you know. Hey, I'm just like before. The Jewish. It would be more offensive if you did it on Good Friday, which is the day that he was murdered by the Romans.

Yeah. So you're kind of celebrating his rebirth and doing the horror so it seems not that mean to me no but you know those people can get offended by anything go back to my party machine is it tacky no well um it's not more tacky than you want it to be you know i try to only do it once or twice, but I'm, you know, I bow. I've been doing a less. How do you do it? Is there like a button on it? There's four buttons where you could do the hydrox go all the way up. I don't want to know how much you spent on this. Oh my God. It hurt my soul. Cause our van's broken and I got to buy a new van and like, I'm sorry. You're going to be sleeping in the van tonight.

Paychecks going to be a few days late this week, guys. Let me tell you guys about that. Then you're giving speeches about how people can be happy. Every Monday morning, while your band's like, do we have can I eat lunch today? Please, father, tomorrow. I haven't eaten in three days. Oh my God. Shut the fuck up. No, take care of them. I take care of my boys. I'm supposed to talk. I feel like I take care of the boys. I know, but like now I'm thinking about it. Like fuck. They see me buying every time. It fucks with me. The worst podcast we ever did was because of that. I know.

Remember that the one that would that the forgotten podcast? Yeah. The forgotten. Yeah. We did leave it that way. I'll never forget this fucking look on your face. So angry at you. It looks like an angry old bird, but I was also just beat up from the day.

I, you were less angry at me than you were just mad at everything. I was mad at everything. I would never be mad at you. It's okay. If you're mad at me sometimes, I don't care. I know. I don't really do anything like that. But you were so... I wish I could have taken it.

You're just like... It was like a Halloween. It was kind of a shitty week. Yeah. I was like... I was just beat up. I was like, you should have shown a bonus. I was kind of right, to be fair. And you did. This is my dilemma right now. You did bonus him. To be fair. I did. I bonus him. And you deserved it.

You said I needed a bonus and my bonus. Yeah. So everything worked out. But that man. I did. I bonus him. And he deserves it. You said I needed to bonus him. I bonus him. Yeah, so everything worked out. But that man in that pocket, I wish we could put that out. Clap it up. My boys. My boys taking care of my boys. I know. Where's my turn?

Where's my turn? We finally got you paid. I know. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see if we get paid, though. We said we're going to get paid. You know what I mean? Anyway.

All right, going back to... A little. Oh, no, no. I want to go back to this now. You brought up a good point. Party match, Hein? My bus, my van is... Breaking. Breaking. I need to get a new van. I am not at that point in

my career where I can afford a tour bus, but to buy a new van is like $100,000. Dude, this is such a hard decision. I am in the middle. I could get big next year and get a tour bus but it could all fall too i need a butt or a van now i know everything's so up man you're at the worst level in the music industry yeah weirdly yeah because you are playing more than anyone i've ever met in my life right now yeah especially even i don't know

it's such a hard it's a rock and a hard place yeah because i guess you could sell it it's growing pains you could sell it if you do that and like used vehicles are like more valuable than ever right now yeah i don't know it's tough i'm glad i don't have to with that decision at all well this is my new venture let's um oh god oh my god oh that's the wrong one no i think that's the right one actually actually, the more I think about it. My new venture. Rentals. I'm in the rental business. We're renting and buying sprinters. I have a problem. Let's monetize it.

How can I turn this into a moderate profit margin? I found from my research of trying to find a tour bus, trying to find a bandwagon. Where'd you do your research? Instagram stories? No, I was just, stupid ass, I fucking hate you. There's a lack of vans in the market. That's actually true. It's really hard to rent a van right now. It's hard to rent a van and we can't afford buses

or you can't afford bandwagons. But like I was telling you in Oklahoma, the cannibalism of the music industry, there's fucking six, seven bands playing in every city. Damn. Oklahoma City, we were competing with five different bands. In Oklahoma City. In Oklahoma City.

Like who? I don't fucking know. It's a war zone out there, bro. It's a fucking war zone. It's cannibalism. Yeah. So I will. God damn it. Start Barefoot rentals. Oh, yeah. Another business. Another 17 emails a day for 80 bucks.

We're going to we're going to get we're going to we're going to buy cost effective vans. Bands could go on tour and not have to blow their whole load on bandwagons and tour buses. It's going to be tough out there for the next year or two years. I do. I really do. I think there's going to be low turnouts because there's so many bands playing. They're going to pick their battles. So if you're on the fence right now and you're a band, here's some advice. Quit. Get a different job. get out of here. We're trying to make a living. You know what I mean?

You were too late. Sorry. No, no, we need them. Yes. Quit. No, we need to keep music going. Yeah. Yeah.

But only certain bands, me and my friends, and then some other people that I like. So I'm going to have to start a rental company to pay for the van. I got to do it. I got to do it. You act like you're someone's forcing me. I have to start a rental company. I can't afford a $100,000 van.

I understand that, but you're just acting like you got to get lunch. Yeah. I got to get three Sprinters and rent two of them out. I got to. I have to. There is no other way to solve this problem

than to overextend myself in another business, give myself more anxiety and stress. Well, I hope you end up in a bus though. That's my goal for you. I hope so, but I'm not, I'm you're right on twiddles bus. I know. And I know that.

Okay. I want to talk about that too. Tor busses. No, not for you. I don't know. Like a hotel. I love having my own hotel room every night. Yeah, that's true like when you

it tour buses is like glamping it's like yeah fancy glamping you can't take a shit in there nope you park in a parking lot or at the venue true you can't party with the crowd because you have to leave at two or three oh yeah i yeah. I don't know. I guess that's bad. I don't know. If you can't sleep normally, then you're just going to be up in a bus, happy, shaking. You're even closer to everybody all the time. And then what do you do all day?

I don't know. What do you do all day otherwise? Drive six hours. Oh, you like driving kind of. I like driving, being, listening to my podcast. I like the idea of a professional driver at the helm kind of. I do, too. Yeah, I don't. But Bo's been killing it. Bo had to drive all the late nights. Yeah, yeah. I like the idea of a professional driver at the helm, kind of. I do, too. Yeah, I don't...

But Bo's been killing it. Bo had to drive all the late nights. Yeah, yeah, I understand that. My dude, the driver. So I'm in a rock and hard place. It's like, I don't know what to do. Like, do I start renting a bandwagon, like the one before the bus?

But those are 600 bucks. They're more, right? They're $600 a day. Oh, that's the one with, like that's but those are 600 bucks they're more right there's 600 a day oh that's the one with like the little the bunks in the back and it's like half a tour bus right yeah it doesn't have the lounge so like that's like that all being said i feel like i take care of my team you do i'm just with you it's a podcast we're joking around remember no no but i'm like no but you brought up a good point to me. I'm thinking like, damn, do I treat them like shit? No, but they would probably benefit

from a tour bus more than you would. Right. That's pretty fair. Yeah, but for them to get sleep, why don't they just stop partying as much? Just don't give them a tour bus and give them a small raise. Why do I have to pay $1,500 a day so they could keep partying until 5 a.m

well there's other things i mean some people like it prefer a tour bus because they like you don't have to check in the hotel after the gig and be all tired and like you can just go to bed whenever you want that's true what do you want bo you'll take a bus out all this hey guy who drives why am i about to buy a van here Andy. Hey, guy who drives 30 hours a week. What do you want? A tour bus or do you want to keep doing this? Hey, I drive too, Bo. Okay. I drive a lot.

You do. You drive the second most. You, Jason. Jason does. That's it. Oh, no. Ernie's been driving. Stepping the fuck up.

I'm going to clap up to him. Ernie Chang. The homie, Ernard. Ernardo. Oh, yeah. You got to clap it to him. Ernie Chang. The homie, Ernard. Ernardo. Oh yeah. You got to clap it up for my man. He's a good driver too. But I did do the passive aggressive thing where I yelled at him on stage.

Oh, for what? But not like, but passive aggressively. He's like a sensitive guy, right? I'm like, I was just fed up with driving all day.

I'm like, someone else is going to have to pull the weight. I'm stage. You're talking about driving on stage? Yeah. I was talking to Ernie. Oh my God. I'm like, Ernie, you're going to start driving. Well, I knew if I said it to him, he strives more than anybody else in the band. Right? Um, no, he's never driven. Oh, it's like a new thing is a new thing. When I was on that tour, he drove

the like fourth most, our van couldn't, um, get up the Colorado mountain. That's been happening. Yeah. So we had to like pull, take the trailer and do the Dodge Ram thing. Pull the trailer. Like New Mexico. Like New Mexico.

And Ernie drove like eight hours. It was pretty good. So I'm gonna clap. He's a good driver. Yeah. What? He did the whole drive from Richmond to Oklahoma City. Damn.

Bonus. Bonus. Don't. Don't. Don't you get these fucking words. Bonus. City. Damn bonus bonus. Don't don't don't you get these fucking words. Yeah, I flew because I had to edit the goddamn podcast. I had to move a couple video clips. Oh, I'm starting businesses. If you don't want to work all day. You're right. I hate

that. I hate people complain about things they created day, you're right. I hate that. I hate when people complain about things they created. So sign up for barefoot rentals. If you're a fucking band that needs a van, hit me up, hit me up. We'll, we'll take care of you. We've got bunk beds in it. We're going to have a PlayStation five in it. We're going to pimp it out. Pit my ride. Andy Frasco version barefoot rentals you should make it more expensive than a tour bus nah

there's a lot of things you gotta figure out when you're starting a rental company like insurance insurance is crazy the roadside assistant

if the van fucks up there's gotta be other stuff I'm not even thinking of yeah payment process yeah how does Brian get his 15% here

there not even thinking of payment process. Yeah. How does Brian get his 15% here? There. Oh shit. So I should have been a manager. Did you, you would be a great manager. Did you ride in twiddles bus at all? Yeah. I slept in. Does Mahali send me a picture of some huge stain you left on one of their pillows? It wasn my stand that was ryan dempsey okay he has that picture yeah oh my god i want to know what it is and how it happened i i i want you to make your case and i'll decide who i think it is okay because i wasn't there i'm impartial i think because i don't like you or dempsey okay so ryan dempsey was a sweet man he's like hey you could just sleep in my bunk i'll take out all my stuff he took out all his stuff and he put it in the back uh-huh and this was the pillow bo put in in the bus right you brought you brought me a pillow and you brought me a sleeping bag because i needed a blanket okay because i can't sleep without a

like a weighted blanket of course and then so he we we stay up smoking cigarettes with the driver he was he used to be the the be the tour manager of the band. So we're hearing all these crazy stories about Levon. And we smoked like two packs of cigarettes in the front of the bus and just was hearing stories until like 7 a.m. Got it. And then I took a dab or something. Took a dab or something.

And I passed out. Here's where the gray area comes in. But Ryan Dempsey just keeps talking. It'll keep talking for two hours while I'm, while I'm passed out by aliens and shit. And then they'll put in the, he, he picked me up with his, in his arms and he put me in his arms and carried me to bed. It's just like when a family gets home from like their road trip and there's two four-year-olds are passed out in the back of the dastic. Don't't wake up. Don't wake up. Frasco. I'll be a little bitch.

Don't wake him up. He's really sensitive. What's that? And then he slept on that blanket. So I'm assuming he threw up in his mouth and he slept extremely dangerous. Don't we should bleep that out. I think he threw up or he like, he just had some snot or something. It's gross. Holly said it's you, but I don't know. You're making a pretty good case. That doesn't sound like a lie. That's not me. I don't keep shit like that.

You're not a very good liar either. You told that story so naturally. I'm going to go final verdict. It was Ryan Dempsey. Thank you. I don't want to call you out, Ryan, but I am calling you out, man. It could be some sort of alien goo. I mean, he was abducted. Illuminescent.

Yeah. Yeah. Ryan Dempsey is such a trip. We would go, he was my drinking partner at the end of shows. I'd be done early. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'd get in the crowd. I'd go smoke cigarettes with the crowd and go smoke some weed or drink shots.

Yeah, do your frasco thing. Do my frasco thing. Then I'd do the encore with them. Every night? every night every night we do a different song every night and then um then me and dempsey would sneak away and go to a bar um he's sneaking away i don't think anybody wants you around like he had like he tried to steal it because the nitrous mafia is now following every show of ours and twiddle which is tight i. I mean, that's us. They're like, Frasco, great show, man. Giving me a couple of balloons. I'm like, hell yeah, dude.

And, you know, our fans like Nitrous, I guess. Everybody likes Nitrous. It's fun as shit. That's true. So he tried to steal one of the tanks from the Nitrous Mafia and they followed him. That's a really bad idea, actually. They're like, I will fucking kill you.

No, like the thing is like, they're called Mafia for a reason, idea. They're like, I will fucking kill you. No, like the thing is like, they're called mafia for a reason, bro. They're nice until you fuck with them. But yeah, they're called the mafia for a reason. But he's insane. He'll like bring the mafia in his tour bus and they'll just like tank it up. Yeah, Ryan Dempsey's not a big guy that's like, what are the consequences of

this action? You know what I mean? Yeah. Also, it's like a homeless man asked him for 20 bucks. He's like, Hey man, how about just come to the bar with us? So like me Dempsey and this homeless dude are just drinking. You guys should have played a game where you line up fancy bar. Here's what you should have done. You should have played a game and you should have been like, guess which one of us is homeless. Whoever guesses which one of us is actually homeless gets a free shot but the the the beautiful heart of dempsey is like even after all the drinks we got this dude and he's having

conversations and the dude still has dempsey for 20 bucks hell yeah and dempsey gave him 20 bucks dude barefoot homeless guy somehow you're gonna start managing homeless people asking for money and like what have i managed homeless people? Barefoot homeless. Barefoot. Barefoot panhandling. Barefoot. You get 10% of all the money they get. Everything's a pimp eventually.

The more you zoom in on it. Oh, man. But the tour was fun. It sounds like it. Who have you been jealous of lately? Anybody? Anybody online you've been jealous of? Not really.

That's weird. I kind of have a girlfriend. I don't really think about that shit anymore. Just some other bands or anything? No, I'm kind of proud of everyone. I am. You just got the road. We'll see. What I am jealous of are these

sports fans who are still trying to smear shit on the Lakers during playoffs. And like, Oh, you just made the playoffs for the first fucking time. Who was giving you shit about it? Just, you know, I get shitted on a little bit. Kevin Durant kind of got embarrassed, huh? Yeah. He got embarrassed, swept in the first round. Yikes. Things are changing best scoring forward of all time. Should be able to win one game against

the Celtics. Well, you know, it's, um, it's something I've been thinking about. You know, you get older. He's not that old. He's like 31, right? 32. I mean, that's young. That's old for the league.

I guess. It's like, I think about that. We're getting older. Yep. And I was like watching some TikTok video. And they're making fun of me watching the TikTok video. Who was? watching some TikTok video and they're making fun of me watching the TikTok video. Who was?

Just some TikTok video. Like, like making fun of my age group watching. Oh yeah. But those people suck. I mean, you know what I mean? They don't know anything about the world.

Why are you listening to a 22 year old about anything? They don't know anything. The smartest 22 year old in the world is a fucking idiot. I mean, you say that cause you're old. No, when I was 20, No, they are. They don't know anything. They have no experience.

So? They're young. They're fresh. That's my point. You're agreeing with me. Who cares what they say? Fuck them. I'm going to still watch TikToks. Yeah, exactly. There's a ton of people that don't care about that on TikTok that are funny as hell.

Yeah, that's true. Making fun of someone for their't care about that on TikTok that are funny as hell. Yeah, that's true. Making fun of someone for their age, you know. I mean, I know I just did it, but it's not that cool. I do it to Sean. I call him an old fuck. He's not even that old. I know. I mean, he just has a very young energy to them.

Do you think people get offensive when you call them old? Offended? Offended. I don't know. I don't really care when you call me old. No? I mean, it's all relative. Will our love grow old? I don't know. I don't really care when you call me old. No? I mean, it's all relative. Will our love grow old?

I don't know, man. I'm just saying it's all relative anyway. I guess so. I mean, I know 25-year-olds that are older than me. They have four kids, and they live in some suburb, and they're going to work. You know what I mean? I get nervous about how long I can keep this going.

What do you mean? You're going to age way faster than I am with your lifestyle. Yeah. Somebody thought I was 32 the other week. how long I could keep this going what do you mean like you're you're gonna age way faster than I am with your lifestyle yeah somebody thought I was 32 the other week really yeah no way yeah how's a girl really I have a young energy to me I was I was being like fun I was being fun Nick you do not have a young you you have an energy of a 61 year old man no i was being a fun nick i was being fun nick at the time you're like you're like a a 60 year 61 year old man who had a kid when they're 50. no compared to you yeah but compared to like another if you don't know that

many 40 year olds i don't think i don't think so yeah but uh i was being like fun there's like fun nick you know god damn energetic fun nick i got festival season coming up yeah this is it's kind of it's kind of nice i did that three-week tour and now that after the now that the band's in a groove like we are rocking on all cylinders yeah new sets all your new songs? Yeah. New sets. All your new album songs and shit? All new albums, all new teasers. Like, everything's changed. Did you put in every song from the album?

Yes. They all work live? They all work live. A couple of them, it's hard. Sometimes... Our song, Puff Break, I'm having a difficult time. I think I need an extra guy, or I need to, like, program some shit. Yeah, it needs to be filled out a little.

It makes sense, because it's kind of got a hip-hop like it's got it's not real drums on the record yeah so you're gonna have to do something about that huh yeah then um why don't you just play the drum loop from it that's a good idea then andy can just play over it or because i've been talking shit about that type of shit what type of shit tracks tracks why who cares who cares all the biggest bands in the world use i know like a thing it's over and i should just fucking uh it can't all be country you know can't all be americana country hat mumford and sons british guy with a banjo in americana you know what i mean okay stuff can just be fun guys have you been jealous of

anything lately no i've been okay really i don't what's the point of getting jealous right i'm a 61 year old man no but like what about like all your friends going on the road and oh i mean whatever it's like do you want to be back on the road yeah but you know it's tough right now but i've been gigging around here at least yeah i've been seeing you on some i did the main squeeze run that was fun as those guys yeah they sold the out of both their shows really yeah cervantes was like how did they start getting popping again tick tock tick tock also they're just a sick man they've been torn i mean they're badass band but like cervantes was like hell it was like sold out where like you know sometimes it's sold out and they're just like there because it's like the party spot yeah this was sold out like everyone was there to see the main squeeze i don't know any of these people i've never you know what

i mean yeah because they have like a little bit it's not like a jam band crowd it's a little bit but it's like more like we went to college and now we have jobs and but we're fun you know what i mean oh yeah good crowd it was popping right now lawrence yeah they've been popping i mean they're blowing up blowing up blowing i'm proud of them. Give it up for the kids. Our guys, Lawrence. Really popping out there. They're good, man. Good to see a band that's like that. They use tracks.

I guess we should announce that it's exciting. The podcast is basically the podcast of many festivals this summer. A lot of festivals, we are going to be featuring the headliners on this podcast. Oh.

Next week, we have Summer Camp Music Festival. I haven't heard much about this, actually, to be honest. I got, we got a great one. Oh, my God. Summer Camp's in a month. I know. Damn. Dude, they're all coming quick.

Festival season is around the corner. I got it. Guys. My birthday's coming up. I know. I got something special for you. You know my birthday? Yeah. I'm it. Guys. My birthday's coming up. I know. I got something special for you. You know my birthday? Yeah.

I'm surprised you know my birthday, honestly. Yeah. You got something special for me? I got something special for you. Oh, gosh. I got a surprise for you. I'm scared. Yeah.

Oh, you'll see. It's a condom. Summer camp. We got a bunch of cool interviews. I'm interviewing Cherub. Oh, cool. I love Jason. That guy's a good guy.

He's a funny, cool dude. Yeah. I hang out with him a lot at Umphrey's shows. He loves Umphrey's. Yeah. And then we're doing Summer Camp. We're going to be the podcast for Summer Camp. We're going to be the podcast for Peach Fest.

This is all confirmed. All confirmed. Podcast for Bonnaroo. Let's go. We're going to interview three bands, headliners on Bonnaroo. We're go. We're going to interview three bands, headliners on Bonnaroo. We're the podcasters. See Here Now.

Oh, I just saw that one announced today. It's a big one, right? We're opening for Green Day. I'm trying to get Green Day on the podcast. We mean you're opening for Green Day. Like you're on the stage that they're on right before them? Not right before them, two before. There's probably, you know, it's teared. And it's cool. Asbury. See Here Now is really dope because it's on the beach. you know it's teared and it's cool Asbury see here now

is really dope because it's on the beach where is it what city is it in Asbury Park New Jersey oh like the Bruce Springsteen

part of the world shout out to Springsteen shout out to Bruce Springsteen so a lot of fun interviews on the way hell yeah we're gonna have some stars we're gonna have some stars

and then actually Nick is gonna be interviewing some people for the Dialed In. We're doing Dialed In Gummy interviews. We don't know who yet, really. We don't know who yet.

We're going to test the waters to see who could actually accomplish this. Right, because they have to eat a bunch of weed as part of it. You've got to eat a bunch of weed, and then Nick is going to interview you. Or we'll just hang out and talk. You know what I mean? Yeah. But you're going to have to eat a bunch of these Dialed In Gummies, and we're going to wait until they kick in, and then we're putting you in the hot seat. And then we're just going to- to eat a bunch of these dialed-in gummies, and we're going to wait until they kick in,

and then we're putting you in the hot seat. And then we're just going to bring it on, musicians and actors. Yeah, if anybody wants to do it, hit me up. Be pretty famous, though. You know who I got coming on the show? I don't know. One of the girls in Winning Time, Lola Kirk. She plays?

Jeannie. Oh, she's awesome. I've been watching it. When's she doing it? I interview her in a couple days. That's awesome.. Oh, she's awesome. I've been watching it. When's she doing it? I interview her in a couple days. That's awesome. It's such a good show. It's just ridiculous enough. John C. Reilly is absolutely slaughtering that role. Yeah, it's killing it. And the tone of it,

have you seen it? I've watched one episode. I promised Jill I'd watch all of it. But like the tone of the video, it's cool. I thought they did do it. Ooh, I got in trouble. I know. Oh, I didn't know if you were allowed to talk about this.

I mean, might as well. I have a final verdict on it, so it's good. Okay. We should do final verdict. I got in my first. For now, you just bring me things, and I'll decide the final verdict. All right? I got in the first fight with the lady I am dating.

Uh-huh. But I felt like it wasn't my fault. Okay, don't start defending yourself. Tell them what happened first. Okay, so we were in, I think, Richmond, Virginia. And one of the fans came up to me and handed me a remote control. Yes, like a car.

I felt like I was opening a Pathfinder or something. And then she's like, hey, just want to let lets you know this is connected to my underwear and there's a vibrator oh yeah that's a common gag thing yeah and she's like i just wanted i want you to play your music and and um you know anytime you feel the urge to press the button i'm like this is awesome yeah and i was like pressing the button i like when i was walking on the stairs i'm like all right we don't want to like blow the load. And literally, and then we, I started doing it.

And then like, it was just such a cool feeling. I was also on mushrooms. I was kind of like already over. I have like talk a lot and like just open about everything I say in my head. I'm like, I have a vibrator remote control. Oh God. And this is awesome. I'm this is, this is the coolest thing

i've ever and um i forgot i was on a live stream uh-huh and jill watched the live stream and uh and i'm like fuck fuck so i call i called her right after the stage i'm like oh my god this was so fun some girl and she's like she didn't say anything that night. And then in the morning, I got, I got the, you know, the paragraph text. I'm like,

she wasn't that mad. I read it. You showed it to me. Yeah. She was mad enough where I'm like, okay, I get it. But then I started getting into my,

I'm going to be me. I told her she couldn't come to shows. And you don't have the, you don't, you haven't been enough. I'm not strong enough. I can't be tough guy. You haven't been. I felt bad. Yeah. Sorry. You can't be the, that's why you can't be the bad guy online either. You just don't have the, you don't, you haven't been enough. I'm not strong enough. I can't be tough guy. You haven't been felt bad.

Sorry. You can't be the, that's why you can't be the bad guy online either. You just don't, you're too nice. Yeah. Like people like you. I don't think you really did anything. I didn't mean to say that. I don't think it was that bad. I don't thought, I mean, you didn't touch it. That's what's going to get me like, that's the elite. What you shouldn't have said that you, we had a bunch of titties on stage at summer camp yeah you weren't dating her then though but anyway i had romeo grabbing my dick who romeo the the

male stripper grabbing my dick on stage yeah that was awesome i don't think you did i'm on your side in this you shouldn't say you forgot it was being streamed just that makes it seem like you know like i didn't in my head oh i didn't think like i wouldn't have talked about it as you forgot it was being streamed. Just that makes it seem like you know, like I didn't in my head. Oh, I didn't think like I wanted to talk about it as much. It was just a moment thing with Richmond and I, I would have been evident a thing, but like thousands more people watching it. It is pretty weird. It was awesome. It's a weird thing though. Yeah. But shout out to that girl she wrote me a beautiful the woman who she was an older lady but she wrote me a beautiful letter like thank you so much i was like no i thank you that was awesome it was worth getting in trouble for it thanks for letting

me remote control your vagina for three hours that was great that was nice we only played an hour oh yeah an hour it's still a time. It's longer than you've ever touched a vagina in real life. I love power hours. I felt like it wasn't cheating. I didn't touch the vagina. It's not cheating. It's just a remote controls. Fun. There's a gray area and she's just addressing a gray area. What's the difference between that and porn? What do you want her to do? Hold it in for us for life until it boils over. No, I'm glad she has. She Amber heard your ass like sits in the bed. Yeah, it wasn't that bad. She said, Hey, this is a gray area. I'm just letting you know, it's a gray area. Fine. Whatever. It's fine. Now we're going to make it a Brown area. Now I can't believe shit all over Johnny Depp. I haven't been following that because I'm

like, not a wild dude. Is it that good? Dude? It is amazing. Johnny Depp is reading text messages that he had to say because his lawyer is such an Amber Heard's lawyer is an asshole and they're both at fault. They're both crazy drunk. Yeah, but I think, yeah, really? They're both just crazy. And like, you could tell like they get in fights. How many bracelets is he wearing in the courtroom? What? Is he still wearing like 45 bracelets and like everything?

He's making it a performance. Oh, yes. Yeah. He's like. He's like, it's a little bit much for me. It's a little extra. The like he's like it's it's a little bit much for me it's a little extra the whole thing's extra but it's great Johnny did great content for television of course a giant up definitely thinks he's like the coolest guy on earth and he might be he definitely thinks he is yeah well you got a you got to play the part he just got so many bracelets on all the time you know I mean yeah like you're not actually Captain Jack Sparrow.

He's got a couple beads. You play him in a movie. You're not really a pirate. He thinks he is, though. I don't know. You got any questions for me? Before we wrap this up? I mean, we could keep going, but...

You like my new shoes? What are those? These ones? I went with Mahali and I forgot that Mahali has way more money than I do. Really? Yeah, he buys shoes. He buys all these fancy ass shoes.

Why does Mahali have more money than you? I don't know. Maybe I'm just more frugal with my money. I don't know if frugal is the word I'd use for you. You definitely will spend money. I will, but I'll think about maybe just for months before yeah whatever it is but like i was like yeah i'll buy some shoes with you we go to this like fancy boutique

fucking shoe shop yeah in baltimore and i know that spot yeah and he's like buying these fancy shoes so i'm like yeah i'll buy'll buy these. How much were they? We'll bleep it out. Oh, well, it's not that crazy, but yeah. Too much. Too much. And I can't afford it. I just found out how much I owe in taxes.

Oh God. Oh, I'm having a heart attack. Really? This whole thing is, these growing pains, like I know I'm bitching about this. You're in that middle zone. You're in the worst zone. I'm in that middle zone in a band where these growing pains are hard yeah and like the taxes i pay the taxes right and the well they pay taxes on their income but yeah yeah but like i'm paying crazy it's i know i had a heart attack like i my mouth we found out the news in pittsburgh did you do like payment plan i i saved

money from the year yeah but you took But it was double of what I saved. Those Democrats, man. Here we go. And then our van pops. I'm like, just like, these growing pains are so fucked up. And I'm just like working. And we've been trying to close these deals with these podcast sponsors. And then just me and Bo are just like booking flights.

And just like we had to book 120 flights. Well, flights are more expensive these days, right? We spent $45,000 on flights this summer. I think every flight's like 75 more dollars than it was three years ago. Oh yeah, dude. It's way more than that. Like $45,000 on travel. Jesus Christ. It's like, how do people serve?

It's just like these growing pains are fucked, but we have to do it. Cause we had to do all these fests and I don't know. Oh yeah. Cause you got to fly into every festival. I'm flying in. And you're only getting thousands of dollars to play there. So it's not that much.

I mean, we're still the middle tier. Yeah. We're not like, here's the worst tier, bro. Why? It's easier to make money in the lower tier because you have less cost.

You're not like, you know what I mean? Yeah. The middle tier. Cause you're like trying to grow to the big tier, which costs more money than going from the lower tier to the middle tier bro why it's easier to make money in the lower tier because you have less cost you're not like you know what i mean yeah the middle tier because you're like trying to grow to the big tier which costs more money than going from the lower tier to the middle tier i know the low tier the middle tier you can just get there by luck sometimes yeah or meeting the right guy at a party that's not kidding i know you're right yeah like getting from the middle of the top is like yeah the middle tier growing pain thing is just a slow train the hardest one it's not like a we're not like you ever thought about just staying in the middle i mean that's the goal yeah that's true it's just a no you want to get up here you want to get high but stay you know it's like a wave but you want to

stay on top of that wave because the waves are hard the minute you know i feel bad for like these nostalgic bands who are super broke and they have to go back on the road after let's say like smash no i'm just oh just kind of bands. Smash mouth or like, dude, I'm in class. We haven't toured in 10 years. Yeah. No one's shown up to their fucking shows.

Really? Yeah. And it's just like, I haven't really been following that as much. It's fucking hard, dude. It's fucking hard. I don't understand how like,

I'm pretty just been selling a thousand tickets for like 20 years or some shit like that. They always kick out. Well, that's that thing that's riding that. But they have always been, they've been steady on that fucking path. They have a good team. Yeah. And, they always kick out. Well, that's that thing that's riding that. But they have always been... They've been steady on that fucking path, dude.

They have a good team. Yeah, and they're smart dudes. I mean, they know what to do. Yeah. They know their scene. That's what I'm saying. They're impressive. Yeah.

A lot of jambians. Their business model is one of my favorites. Jambians are good at that, though. It's one thing they can do. They'll never pop all the way, but they're good at not falling off.

Yeah. Out of all the jam bands um freeze i really like um what about fish trajectory oh don't get me started with fish they have a good business it's awesome they make all their own merch and everything yeah everything's in-house yeah pretty cool don't get me started with the fish trolls after me who's trolling you from what's going on i love it oh just like the fish some of these fish fans like frasco's a gimmick frasco's a gimmick and all of a sudden the only thing i see on instagram are them is the band with the pictures of the big ass whales and i'm like that's so hypocritical when those dudes like every man's a gimmick

everybody has a gimmick also yeah you have a gimmick off i don't yeah, you have a gimmick. Fuck off. I don't know. What's wrong with having a gimmick? I'm fine with it, but just like being mean about- These people all think they're culture- These trolls being mean to me and my friends. Yeah, they're losers, most of them. And then they're being hypocritical with what they think is cool. Or the pictures, like, cool, the music, awesome.

Fish had an awesome New Year's Eve musically, but I didn't hear anything about the music. All I heard from these gimmicky people who are making fun of my gimmicks is like, oh my God, Fish put a whale up on the fucking... Right, and this isn't... To be clear, that was cool as shit. It was very tight.

We're not knocking that they did it. We're knocking that people are making fun of other people for being gimmicks while also coming in their pants over a whale. That's exactly it. Okay? I'm not... so leave people alone. Fantastic. Their, their new year's Eve thing was fantastic. If you want to criticize Andy, like, Oh, he never even plays the keyboard on stage. Okay. That's fair. Every picture I see of him, he's standing on top of it. Does he ever play that thing? That's a fair criticism, right? If you want to say, is there

a keyboard inside of that at all? That's a fair criticism right if you want to say is there a keyboard inside of that at all that's a fair criticism but if you're going to call them a gimmick and then literally drain yourself to videos of a whale flying around maybe you need to get off twitter wow you said it all stop me when i'm wrong i think we got everything that's enough that's enough of this i'm done just people online are the worst and then they'll be like he's 60 like let's shut up with the tears yeah none even know the tears because you don't even you think like if you like a band they're higher tier it goes off ticket sales hell yeah it's fish and then uh maybe panic's up there man they're their pants big they're on the side like like fish. Fish is gigantic. They go fish,

then panic, and then it starts filling out, and then they get wider, you know? I'm freezing on like this two or three. Yeah. It's just like,

shut up. Yeah. Mind your fucking business. Okay, don't like us, fine, but don't like to talk shit about me and my friends. If you hate someone so much, why are you talking

about them all the time? Yeah. And why are gimmicks bad now i mean we could say that about trolls we've been this whole episode's about fucking yeah how much we hate trolls well it's like this whole fucking country's again like when you start which gimmicks are bad just say you don't like the music that's fine yeah let's say like oh it's not for me yeah there you go yeah don't get mad because he's entertaining people yeah suck it i'm gonna go to stand there in a big hat and tell me about a sad life we'll go to you know singer songwriter

well i don't want to name any bands well you said it all no i'm not just kidding um nick it's great to have you back wow what a whirlwind of a show from happy motions i'm in a good mood actually i'm in a good mood, actually. I'm in a really good mood. I am, too. But that doesn't mean stuff can't bother me. I know. Just be nice to people.

What about, yeah. We're all dying. None of us are making a real living on this shit. Just like, you know. I know, exactly. I'm sorry Andy talks to the crowd and gets on the keyboard and dances and has fun. I'm sorry. Wow, you are hyping me up, and I fucking love it.

I told you. We start, and then we get back up. I fucking love it. I'm sorry this man almost dies every day drinking to help you guys have a better life. This guy gets his ass out about 8 in the morning. Everybody, you're weak. But meanwhile, your blood is turning purple inside of your body because you haven't had water in three days. This guy is working harder than anyone in the music scene. He's a gimmick.

I'm a gimmick. I'm late for work. He's a gimmick. Half these people live in their mom's basement and they like spend their entire life savings shut up they spend their entire life savings going to jam band concerts so now they think there's some sort of expert and on culture and music no you just go watch white guys around on guitar by the way i like that too but you're wrong just leave andy alone thank you he's better than his job and you are yours i guarantee it god damn it you nick thank you it's all men too have you ever

seen a woman ever call you a gimmick no have you i've never seen a girl online once call a band a piece of or you know what i mean yeah they don't say they're losers. Then they might be like, Oh, I don't, you know, a couple of Karen's a little here and there, but like men will go to this really deep place with you. Like they just hate your existence. Like,

well then shut up about it. Start your own fucking band then. Yeah. Get on Repsy. Yeah. No, you're not going to start a band. Full circle,

baby. So sign up for Repsy. Also, and 80% of them are wearing goddamn fish ties to weddings in their profile picture. So why should I take you seriously if you're wearing sandals and a fish tie to a wedding? Yeah. Eat your dialed-in gummies and shut the fuck up. Yeah. Start a band

then. Do something with your life. Besides troll Andy. Like this guy doesn't have enough. He's trying to start a van rental company right now. Talk about a gimmick. Barefoot rentals. Talk about a fucking gimmick. Barefoot rentals. Talk about a fucking gimmick. I feel like a June Simmons right now. I might try to get you some sales out there. Get my cut. Come on, get a cut, get a cut, make that money. All right, we're

done. We're done talking. Clip that. Have a great week guys. Uh, next week I think we have cherub or smashing pumpkins. Fuck yeah. We're going to find out. The entire smashing pumpkins? I'm not going to tell you who, but it's a big one. Well, I think we have Cherub or Smashing Pumpkins. Fuck yeah. The entire Smashing Pumpkins? I'm not going to tell you who, but it's a big one. Well, I can probably guess. Alright, guys. I love you. Be safe. Motivation. Motivation. Oh yeah, you do it. I don't have anything to say.

Don't worry about whatever people think about you. We just had an hour of me worrying about what other people think about me. Don't worry about what people think about you. Fuck them. Fuck their... Not literally. Don't actually have sex with them about me. Don't worry about what people think about you. Fuck them. Fuck their... Yeah, not literally. Don't actually have sex with them. Don't have sex with them, but just don't worry about it. You like to vent it out. I haven't vented it out in three weeks because it's hard to vent it out

to my band. That's why this is the first time I've seen Nick. That's why I vented it out. Vent it out and let it go. Here's my thing. Because life is too short to hold that shit in, right? Yeah. You got to consider who's delivering the message before you consider the message. Okay?

If a complete loser is calling you a loser, who cares? Right. And if they're calling you a loser on Twitter and you've never met them. No, I don't want to call anyone a loser. Well, that's a loser thing to do at least. Okay.

Okay. We're done. It's like, you know, you're not a bitch, but you're being a bitch. Okay. We're done. We're done. We're done.

Bye, guys. Okay. Turn them off. Turn them off. Turn them off. Turn them off. Mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, mew, me know, you're not a bitch, but you're being a bitch. Okay. We're done. We're done. We're done. Bye guys. Nick, welcome back. Can't wait. Let's look at, let's look at one camera. Hell yeah. Fuck yeah.

I'm starting a trivia night too. Oh yeah. We're working it out. I can't say where yet. Cause we've got to make sure we'll make it. Let's do it right before we do anything. Yeah. I've been studying the Patriot thing. I got a plan. Okay, good. Yeah. I've been wondering. yet because we've got to make sure. We'll make it. Let's do it right before we do anything. And I've also been

starting the Patreon thing. I've got a plan. Okay, good. Yeah, I've been wondering. Goodbye. Bye. You tuned in to the World's Health Podcast

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