Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 175: Cory Henry

Episode Date: June 7, 2022

Listen in to part 2 of our Bonnaroo series in which we highlight artists performing at one of the world's greatest festivals... this week we got one of the hottest musicians out there: virtuosic keyboardist, Cory Henry! Plus, Andy and Nick get their old pal Ryan Stasik on the phone to discuss what makes one like him, so dang hot. Big D!ck Nick makes his triumphant return. Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out Andy's new song, "Puff Break (Believe That)" on iTunes, Spotify  Find out what just how good this young master is: coryhenry.com Produced by Andy Frasco Joe Angelhow Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Ryan Stasik Nick MacDaniels

Andy, it's your girl. Hide your wife, hide your kids. I'm coming to Denver, Andy. I'm going to fuck all your friends. I'm going to do all of your drugs. Fuck yeah, let's do this. I can't wait. I'll see you soon.

Andy Fresco, I am at Midway leaving summer camp, and I just realized that I'm missing you. It's probably a good thing because I feel like you're going to burn down summer camp and I don't want to be any part of that. Please don't hurt Ryan because we need to work with him in the future. I love you. Please have a good time. Don't hurt anybody, especially Ryan.

Ryan Stasek. I love you. Please have a good time. Don't hurt anybody, especially Ryan. Ryan Stasek. I love you. You're a monster. And, yeah, just don't hurt anybody at summer camp or do. I mean, you know, do what you want. By the way, it's Kanika Moore doing Flamingo. And you smell like chicken. Bye.

Bye. Bye. All right. Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco, and this is my co-host, Nick Gerlach. And after a week of sleep, I feel great.

Yeah, you look great, too. Wow. It's amazing what sleep does. Yeah, it's really good for you. Why is it so good for you? It replen it replenishes all these uh like serotonin in your body doesn't it i'm not like i don't know that much about sleep actually what it does but i'm feeling jacked up i had a full day of sleep it's a serotonin thing yeah yeah feel good how you doing that's why you like when you take uh ecstasy you feel really bad like three days later

because you're depleted of stereotype. So it's like kind of like a recharge. You get mad just like you get mad just like when you don't have sleep. It's a similar anger. Well, whoever invented sleep. Fuck yeah. Yeah, but also let's go. Let's fucking go sleep.

Yeah, but think how many more rental companies you could start if you didn't have to sleep eight hours a day. I'm starting to realize this is a bad idea this rental company oh like i said immediately what's the first thing i said what's the first thing i told you i said oh another 18 emails a day for blah blah and what's happening exactly what i said yeah another 25 emails that's not propaganda at all yeah but i think once everything gets rocking and rolling it'll be fine it will but that takes that's a hill you got to climb that hill, baby. Yeah, I know. Well, another challenge, another challenge, not might as well put another fucking challenge on my belt buckle. Yeah. Speaking of challenging

this fucking is Stasic hot drama. The drama has gone a little too far. First of all, he's the original, just so you guys, if you're newer, he's the original hot guy. He was the first hot guy. I don't, people never met. Why doesn't he remember that we were the first he's the original just so you guys if you're newer he's the original hot guy he was the first hot guy i don't people never rem why doesn't he remember that we were the first he's on mount rushmore he is on mount rushmore of hotness him who is our mount rushmore of hot guys that's a good question scene i'd say for sure stacy uh-huh what about gator i mean gator is hot he's young that's a thing dude give the young guys when i think of mount rushmore i don't think of young guys i think of accomplished men yeah you know i own slaves some of them okay they also did win a couple wars one of them you know stopped it the mount rushmore of hotness

of the jam scene is is a thing and i think we should debate it discuss it for staysix for sure i don't know why he's 100 the george washington of the hot guy thing i'd say i'd put andy if we're calling the ogs andy hall string dusters oh my god i just saw them that guy i was like this guy looks like he should be a side man in taiko he's so hot he's hot he's hot he does not like he should be in a bluegrass band at all um three other people i'm willing to put him on there for adding if we're including bluegrasses uh two other people there's four people on mount rushmore for sure holy do you think there's five people on mount rushmore um there's four four of for the j i thought there's five rushmores no i can't even, there's the four guys on Mount Rushmore.

I've got a C in history. Do you know the four presidents on Mount Rushmore? Fuck. Do I? Washington. Lincoln. Kennedy. Kennedy.

Oh, my God. No. They're all older. They're all before 1900. Oh, yeah. Franklin. Ben Franklin. Ben Franklin.

No. We'll get to that later. All right. We're done before 1900. Oh, yeah. Franklin. Ben Franklin. Ben Franklin. No. We'll get to that later. All right, we're done. No, I don't need it. I'm embarrassing myself. Ben Franklin wasn't even a president. It's Washington Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson. Oh, that's what I was thinking about.

Thomas Jefferson. And Teddy Roosevelt. One of my favorite presidents. My favorite president. I love Teddy Roosevelt. He invented the National Parks. That Teddy Roosevelt mustache is in now. Everyone's got that. Dude, give it a rest with the mustache guys you look like you drive a white van and i want a mustache you look like the bad guy in lovely bones

speaking of mustaches i think stasek has a mustache right now well that's different once you have two kids yo we should zoom in and stay sick i want to get to the bottom of this what's the deal here should we here i'm i'm gonna send him the zoom link to see i gotta think about this mount rushmore hot guys we will let's talk to let's talk to him why he thinks he's so insecure i really like that lovely bones joke i just made i just want to go back to that pretty good all right i sent him the zoom link let's see if he answers but while he answers who else is on the Mount Rushmore of hotness? Ooh. I think you can only have one Umphreys guy, right?

You can't have more than one. You can't have more than one. Actually, Joel Huck Cummins is in the running. He's in, but... His body, man. Anyway. Let's add the young kids, too. A young Rushmore? Rick is so hot.

I think he's like... I mean, he's like 30. He's not that young. Yeah, he's hot. He's just so hot that we got to put him on there, I think. Yeah we're going to put him on like i'm willing to bet he's going to be hot for the rest of his life so it's rick yeah gator yep then we gotta get the ogs stay sick andy hall yeah that's just the fifth there's only four people in mount rushmore we just oh okay went over that okay so two new two young i like that move yeah there's our mount rushmore oh i want

to start dude we should start a history podcast, me and you. Where I just tell you something, and you're like, what? You're like, that happened? I don't know nothing. It says Ryan Stasek wants to join. Hell yeah. Attach it. Allow it. Hell yeah. He's in. Wow. Look at us being futuristic with our podcast.

Ryan Stasek. Wow. Whoa. Ryan Stasek on the show. Great piece. Let'sk. Wow. Whoa. Ryan Stasek on the show. Great piece. Let's go. Wow. So let's talk. I just want to, you know, open the can of words. We do think you're hot, Ryan.

I don't know what you're talking about. I heard there's some sort of you're mad at us. No, that's the dumbest shit I ever heard. Well, hey, okay. To be clear here, everything I'm getting is second hand from Andy. So clear it up. Yeah. Yeah. So hot is a state of mind and, and there's always going to be a quicker gun, a younger chap. I'm just laying on leopard doing my thing. Damn.

Damn. See that's hot. So we never said you're not hot though. Andy said that you said that you're not hot now. I'm just laying on left. Here's here's how you know you ask your kid and it's it's weird and I asked my kid I was like hey you think I'm hot and she's like no gross. Oh, well I think it's way less weird to say your mom. Hey, let's talk. Hey, well, I think it's way less weird to say your mom. Hey, let's talk. Hey, is dad hot?

She wants no part of this shit. Leave her alone. She wants no part of this shit. Let her. She's got homework, man. We were, we were thinking about, you know, you, you're a man of your sexuality too. We're putting the hot list, the man, the Mount Rushmore of hot in the jam scene. We added you. We added you first. You are George Rushmore of hot in the jam scene. We added you. Speaker 3 1,030. He was first. He's George Washington. You are George Washington of hotness

in the jam scene. Just let you know. And then Abraham Lincoln is a what's his face from Speaker 3 1,030. Abraham, Abraham Lincoln's Andy hall. No, he's Thomas Jefferson. He's Thomas Jefferson. Abraham Lincoln is Rick. He's got such a link. Yeah. We put, we put two young guys, Abraham Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln. Yep. Yep. Who would you put on your Mount Rushmore of hotness in the Jams? Don't say Joel.

Uh, you took, you can't say, don't say Joel when the answer is Joel. Yeah, you're right. It's fucking Joel. Well,

no, because we can't have two upfrees. Yeah. Can't have Rushmore. That's that's called communism. Yeah. Then here's what we'll do. Here's what we'll do. I will

kindly step down from this stupid, stupid, stupid hot rod. Hit the button. How do you know? You can't step down from hotness. Stupid. You'll never not be hot. I'm going to let Joel be the hot

guy. He deserves it. He deserves it. And then we'll add another okay who else you got well can can i add my stepson brett robertson does he count as a jam band i don't know who that is who's that who's brett robertson my good my my stepson and death king no that's a rock band that's not a jam band that's your rock project yeah yeah he's not metal jam band. That's not a jam band. That's your rock project. Yeah, yeah. He's not- Metal. Metal project. Okay.

Oh, by the way, FYI, that set was so dope. Death Kings, bro. Dude, can we just, can we just, the whole Sunday was fucking ridiculous. So fun. It was special. You guys, I mean, Victor Wooten and his brothers, they were the Smashing Pumpkins.

There's a lot of good shit going on. That was just Sunday. I know. That was fucking Sunday. I'm going to clap it up for you, Ryan. Working 10 sets. What about, I have a nominee. I have a nominee.

Who? The drummer in Soundtribe. What's his last name again? Franka? Oh, yeah, Zach. Zach. Get Zach up there. Zach's hot.

Yeah. You know what? He's hot, and he's an older. We need another older guy, because he's been around and he's got gray. Don't call Stacey gold in front of his face. He's older than 25 year olds. You know, he can admit that. Hey Mickey. Yeah. She does not want to be on this. She's like, I don't want nothing to do with it. I don't want to be on this. You answered. Okay. Stay. I don't want to be on this.

You answered. Okay, stay. I did. I did. Stay sick. Okay. By the way, I think you need to add Sean Eccles to Death Kings. He's a, you know, when he's around, he's going to join us for sure, man.

The guy's born for metal. That was super fun. That was to hit deep in the cockles of my heart at a good time. He's a rock god. He's a rock god. He's a rock god. Did you watch me and Mike Dillon start the pit for you guys? Yes. And let's put Mike in there. We're going to get an old guy in there.

He's got a great body. I did not even think about that. Mike Dillon is fucking hot. He is hot. It's also being knighted when he comes to your set, he listens to it, and then starts a fucking mosh pit. That's hot. I agree. That is hot.

I feel like if that happens, they should double your pay. Yeah. If Mike Dylan shows up and likes the punk music you're doing, he should get double. Immediate bonus. We're going to talk to Ian about that. Let's put that contract. I'll tell Ian that next year. Yeah. Well, buddy, thanks for being on the, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, something, Andy, earlier I made him guess who all, who all the president are on Mount Rushmore. His third guest was Ben Franklin. All right, we're done. We're

done. You went to Notre Dame. Okay. I went to San Francisco state. You finished too. What was your other guests? Kennedy. That was Kennedy. All right. Stacey, go be a dad. I know you have two days off. Go do your thing. I love you. Thank you so much for being on the show. Bye. I love you.

Love you. Tell the kids I say hi. There it is. Wow. Well, that was cleared up. One, he's not off Mount Rushmore. It doesn't work like that. You don't get to decide who isn't.

You know what? If you're not on or not, we decide. This segment is, by the way, this segment is sponsored by repsy.com resty.com get booked get booked you can find a bunch of those bands on repsy.com if you want to book bands if you want to you know get your venue out there go sign up to repsy.com and go eat some dialed in gummies one more time because we didn't really promote them really well last week and we should because they're they take care of our you're a little tie-tie I was a little tie-tie and I do love some dialed in gummies you won't mm-hmm how do we take a got dialed in gummy and then book a

tour what do you mean well eat one of these and we'll book your nationwide tour start sending emails club oh yeah get it right in that mic when you're chewing it. I think that's the hottest. I like to hear. I like to write a little pieces off and just stuck on it for a while. Wow. Lot. What a fucking opening for Corey. This is like pineapple. Corey Henry. I forgot he's on the show today. He's on. I love Corey. Genius. A true genius is going to be a great episode. We talked for about an hour. I saw him play the other day. I didn't realize he was such a huge basketball fan. i didn't realize how he got famous when he was like four he was like one of those child prodigy genius types so for episode two of the bonnaroo he opened the pigeons

red rock show yeah it was good it's amazing what did he do full band um it's like a organ tree i was like walking up so i mostly heard it i think it's an organ trio it's amazing what did you do full band um it's like an organ tree i was like walking up so i mostly heard it i think it's an organ trio it's probably what it was when he because he did it we interviewed when he was in japan probably same band he's been singing more too so you could catch him at bonnaroo so guys go go to bonnaroo uh this is a bonnaroo episode another headliner we're about to interview corey henry's the you know corey henry he was in snarky puppy he was one of the producers of kanye donda insane he's worked with everyone and he's one of the best he is i think personally is the best organ player in the game yeah 100 one of them and um i loved it so you ready for this

you all ready for this i'm ready thank you for me all the friends on the show tonight i'm stoked for it oh yeah oh you're getting there i'm almost there all right I've been taking vocal lessons. All right. Enjoy, Corey and everybody. No, it's If I Threw You a Party. If I Threw... The biggest! The biggest! Okay.

Enjoy, Corey Henry. We're losing a little of the gospel before we get... All right. Next up on the interview hour, we have Corey Henry. Yes, one of my favorite organ players on the planet. He's amazing, man. He is one of the goats, and he's just getting better and better, and he's singing now, and he's doing the whole nine. We did this interview in Japan.

He was in Snarky Puppy. He was one of the dopest church organists in Brooklyn. His story is amazing. We go through it all. Hey, Chris, play a little Corey Henry while we're pimping him out for the Bonnaroo episode. You're going to love this one. He loves basketball.

We hit it off so well, and I think we're going to love this one. He loves basketball. We hit it off so well. And I think we're going to be friends for a long time because he is the GOAT. And I'm going to make sure we're friends for a long time. All right, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the interview hour, Mr. Corey. Time for putting down We gotta move on We can't give up now I'll keep on fighting I'll keep on fighting I'll keep on fighting

I'll keep on fighting. I'm on camera. How's it going out there? It's been going great. Everything is going great. Can't complain. Where's your residency at? At the Billboard Live in Tokyo.

Right now it's in Tokyo, but they have a, we're also playing Yokohama and also Osaka Billboard Theater. Let's go. What do you like about Japan so far? Say what? What do you like about Japan so far? What do I like about Japan so far? Probably the people.

The people. There's just such a warm hospitality amongst the people that I've been meeting and being around. And they take very good care of us while we're here. I'm going to get out in the next few days. And I've been told that there are so many uh exclusive things to check out and things to buy that are not in america so i need to go see that as well uh the culture though you know there's a you know the the culture here is just just different and it's um yeah it's nice to be around what what do you think we could learn from

the japanese culture that we could bring back into our community? Man, I don't know. It's probably a lot of things, actually. But one thing is courtesy, gentleness, maybe, you know? courtesy, gentleness, maybe, you know? We've been playing, for instance, we've been playing these shows and I was told right before the first show that the Japanese people here,

they respect music in a way where they don't make noise doing the shows, you know, which is much different than how it is in America. Because when we hype about music, we're like, yeah, whoa, you better play. Just screaming on top of the music and stuff like that. And I don't think, you know, granted, I kind of come from that culture, so I really love when people scream at me when I play. But there is a certain respect and gentleness about when performing,

how people are listening and taking in the music and receiving it. So was it hard to adjust, you know, when you're used to like getting like screamed at, like, let's fucking go. And then all of a sudden, like, like, oh, my God, am I not playing good or what's going on? A little bit, but I would say it's hard to adjust um especially for the type of music that we're playing um um we're doing more of my quote-unquote jazzier stuff i should say so it's more listenable anyway you know but uh if we was out here with the party energy with the the full band i'd probably be like yo i need to get up and dance and sing off you know all right time's up let's get up here let's go get it well that's great man i want to talk about the early years like i heard you started playing uh b3 when you were two do you mind

giving me one of your first memories of uh just being on that organ uh one of my earliest memories is uh watching my mama she played several different different instruments growing up. I grew up in the church, New York, Brooklyn, New York, Unity Temple, my family's church. And I remember when she was getting ready for rehearsal or something like that, and she taught me my first song, which was Amazing Grace. And I remember that very well, learning choir songs and being in church all the time and practicing. And I'll never forget my mother. She kind of showed me the code of music and how it responds, how it affects people. And I grew up in a very charismatic animated church so yeah

when they heard music that they like i was just impressed by the how they moved you know when i played a certain chord the church goes and i i still use those principles to this day well you know when i was fighting three years old what did uh your mom teach you about music and life that you could feel that are parallel now as you are older in your life um yeah that's a good question actually um mainly because my mother my mother uh she transitioned when i was uh very young you know so life lessons you know came in very like much later you know but uh um i guess the one thing is the consistency you know the the attention to detail um

the more that i paid attention to the things that I really, really cared about and was trying to focus in as a musician, the better I became as a musician. And I see that same principle in life, you know, when it comes down to just trying to get my life together, you know, working out and doing business with people and things like that um is that stuff hard for you which which part the business doing business with people and stuff

you know uh uh it could be difficult yes absolutely it's probably the most difficult part of the music actually you know the music the music business the business of music is the most difficult part to deal with especially when you deal with people that are coming from different paths and have different agendas their whole thing so on yeah you seem like a lot you collaborate with a lot of people it must be you know how you approach different artists let's say Kanye versus snarky puppy or something you know it's a very it's like what are we gonna do so how do you as a musician and as you're backing up

these groups or leading these groups in production and live what's your approach on every artist oh every artist is different every artist have their their own, you know, way of doing things. And my approach is to be open, you know, to be, you know, like water, like, you know, to be ready for anything that's supposed to come, that's going to come because everybody have their different, you know, when I played in Snarky Puppy or with Snarky Puppy, you know, my, my role in that group was you know i i called it the steve kerr roll yeah like six man of the year baby six man you know what i mean you know yeah you know uh both playing and you know when i worked with uh kanye it was a different role it was you know more like scotty pippen horaceace Graham or something. It was much more. I mean, and we worked on a record, so that's a different thing in itself. But I was just ready to just kind of change it up. And I listened to so much music, from jazz to rap to R&B to whatever else, gospel, whatever.

So I've always wanted to be able to be in those situations to kind of do it all, you know what I'm saying? And then at least having a chance to do my own thing more consistently, I take all of those other experiences and kind of put them in my own melting pot to create my own thing, you know know is it hard for you to say no maybe it seems like you're doing so much core you ever think about yourself yeah yeah no that's a good question um i think i like to stay busy i kind of like the idea of

I think I like to stay busy. I kind of like the idea of work, you know, at least the way I wanted to do it. Like I'm at a position now where I'm working in my own, let's say like it's, I'm working under my own workflow, you know, there's nobody that's, you know, making me do any of this, you know, I just kind of feel good about saying oh if i like the music or if i like the person or if there's something that that helps the both of us or help me that i'm down to do it in most of the situations that i'm saying yes to are uh are like that i really don't take situations or take music i don't take uh uh jobs if you will that i don't like how long did it take you uh to like have that power or were you like that your whole life it's like you always done things you've always wanted to do or did you learn that trait later in life for the most part it's been most of since a teenager you know since i've um when i was growing

up playing in brooklyn and playing around the tri-state area um i was um called to churches and a lot of friends that were mds for gigs or uh you know whatever have you it was just like oh i get to choose i didn't really i didn't do the audition thing you know, whatever have you, it was just like, oh, I get to choose. I didn't really, I didn't do the audition thing. You know, I wasn't, I went to maybe two auditions in my entire life and I didn't even get those gigs. Crazy. Which gigs were they? I went for, I remember, I remember I auditioned on drums for an R&B singer. I can't remember her name right now. Not Ella May.

There's another one. It was in New York. I remember this vividly. And I was like, man, I want to. I was there on drums or something. So that's probably why I didn't get it. But also there was another one for Bruno Mars. I won't forget that maybe about 12 years ago when he was first coming on or something like

that what happened what happened did you just audition and they just didn't feel it or did you feel like you flopped the interview no you know what what happened was i uh i uh i nailed what i was supposed to do but i was very involved with church at the time so Bruno was about to go on tour and my boy Omar Edwards my big brother shout out to all my Edwards I believe he was the one who called me and said yo Corey I want you to do this thing and I was like okay cool I can do the whole run which was like a month and a half tour something like that yeah but i told i gotta go on monday because the sunday the day before that monday or whatever day they were supposed to start i committed to like a big like a big church convention with like thousands of people whatever and i was like you know i gotta do this church thing matter of fact it wasn't thousands of people

i take that back but there was a big Thursday. Hell yeah. It was probably a hundred people, to be honest. It wasn't that many people, but I committed to it. I said, I got to do this. I can't get out of it, but I can leave on Monday. First thing Monday. And it's like, yo, man, if you can't do all the dates, you can't do today.

And I was like, damn, damn. I could have been Bruno Mars MD. Oh, my God, dude. That's wild. I could, you know. So is loyalty important to you or is your word important to you? I mean, it seems like it is. Yeah, it is very important.

It is very important. At that time, though, I don't think it was more about loyalty. It was just, I mean, about my word my word rather it was the loyalty to the church i was so heavy in church at that time that like you know calling the church and telling them that i couldn't make it was a big deal like i didn't know how you know i was going to be received you know most of my family or friends everything they was all involved and um i remember missing another at the same time i remember having a club gig in the city and missed uh i missed the service or something like that and people was doing all this talking you know like oh man you you ain't annoyed it no more

because i missed the service so i had all this pressure yeah it was loyalty in the word but to answer your question yes my word is huge to me um um and loyalty is important to me so how yeah is the church still important to you or is it how have you like graduated from it being a full devotion or is it still a big part of your life? No, no, no. I've kind of graduated and moved on. But it is important to me from the sense of it's changed. Before it was about music and even spirituality. But now it's not about any of that.

It's about fellowship. It's about seeing my family and my friends. It's like about any of that. It's about fellowship. It's about, you know, seeing my family and my friends. You know, it's like going to a party, you know, and it's like this is where we commune at. This is where we have fun at. I don't really attend church as much now or at all unless I'm going to my grandma's church to hang out, which I went on this day two weeks ago. You went? Yeah, I went and I played too, which is another thing. I don't really play in church at all. Oh my God, tell me about this.

I bet it was like a homecoming, bro. It was incredible. I ain't gonna lie, I ain't gonna hold you. I haven't played at my grandmother's church in years. And even when I go to visit her, I go sit with her in the pews. Like I just go hang out, you know? But for some reason, I was in New York? But for some reason, I was in New York,

not for some reason, I was in New York playing the Blue Note with Stanley Clark. And it happened to fall in on Mother's Day, which was just perfect. So I was like, I'm gonna go to my grandmother's church and hang out. But when I got there, I was like, man, it's Mother's Day. I wanna, you know, like, I wanna,

my grandmother comes to my shows, but I don't really, you know, do the church thing as much. So I told my little sister who plays the organ there, who's also a mother, I said, take mother's day off. I got you today. And I was dialed in like I was 12, 13 years old. I mean, from the prayer to the scripture reading, I was playing all these songs. It was so nice for me personally to see what I was talking about earlier in terms of like, you

know, people reacting, you know, like it really touched me. I was like, man, I missed this because church isn't the same now. Like it was when I was growing up in terms of the type of songs they sing, the, the way people act and stuff like that. So when I go to my grandmother's church, which is exactly how it was when I was growing up. It's like therapy. It's like, it was just fun. I played the whole service and I had a ball and then went to my gig that night. It was almost like I was, you know, I used to do that when I was 16, 17, 18 years old. I used to get up in the morning, church in the morning, 6 a.m., 8 a.m., 11 a.m., and then go do a night service at like 4 or 5 or something like that and then go to the underground to go play the open mic in the village.

And I had one of those experiences, and it felt so good. I can't even front. It felt so good to just do that one more time again. Isn't it amazing when you take a break from it for a second? Because at first it was probably burning you out you know when you're younger you know doing all those gigs you take a break from it and then come back and you're rejuvenated yeah i um what i when i took i mean i ain't gonna say yeah i took a break but i left i it wasn't a break i really left so you're done you're completely done with it yeah yeah yeah yeah like i said like it's not about so is it the politics

it was so many things politics is one of them maybe not the biggest of them but um i think as a man when i started becoming a man a young man um i started seeing things very differently drastically differently and um i had to get away from it because it started changing the way I was perceiving life, the way I was having relationships with friends, with anybody, business, whatever the case is. I learned so many different things out of the church, mostly good, some bad. And I had to get myself out of that to find my life for myself as a man growing up in this world. Hell yeah. So give me an example of like when you started getting older and you're seeing the same situations you saw as a kid, but now as a man and the philosophy of your brain was changing with the same,

cause you know, it's the same thing over, it's a full circle thing. You're just more not, it's like ignorance bliss in a sense. So now that you're a man and you saw the politics, what was the first example? You're like, wow, that's way different than I thought it was when I was a kid.

What's the first example. Yeah. Or what's the first thing that really hits you? Like, Oh, this is not what I thought it was. Um, man.

Okay. So tag, I don't even know. Cause that's a big, that's a deep thing. I think one of the things that changed my narrative was seeing the ceiling. There was a certain ceiling that in church, you had to be in a certain position to get to. And even when you get to that position, you're still like, you're doing this, you know, there's like, you can't get through it. You know, they like, people would just be like, okay, this is your cap. And that's it for you. Like, this is where we want you to stay. And every time I got that feeling, and mostly from preachers, because I was

traveling with preachers a lot. Every time I got that feeling, I was just like, nah, this don't feel good. I don't subscribe to somebody telling me when to play or how to play. I never did. When I was a kid, and you can ask my grandma this, I just got this from me and my grandma was talking about this. I mentioned Amazing Grace being one of the first songs

I learned. And people in my church, the people in the church I used to go to, they used to be like, play it this way. They'd be like, we want to hear it this way. And I'm like, nah, I want to switch it up. I want to jazz it up sometimes. And I was getting that a lot when I was growing up the other part was the money um it was a lot of money coming through church and um and and i made a lot of money in church i ain't going front uh but i realized that um i did not want my checks and balances to be uh balances to be defined to me by the preacher. Because what would happen is, you know, if you do something crazy, you know, like go out with a girl or something like that, or, you know,

some extracurricular activities that they don't like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did. Your check can be messed with. What? You know, they'll sit you down or, or you know i got all sorts of friends who who had babies early you know uh and and and when they had their baby they had to sit down for you know some months or a year or whatever you know i know people who had to sit down the entire pregnancy you know and it's like wow that ain't cool you know like no other job in america or in the world that i know of that when you have a baby or when you do something that the church doesn't like whatever i'm saying baby because that's a big that's a big deal big deal yeah big deal so like when you do something like that you know it's like the church is like okay no you gotta you

gotta get yourself together and while you're getting yourself together we're not gonna pay you i'm like nah you're not gonna do that to me yeah let me go out here and get this you know get this worldly money yeah exactly you know that's that's insane because i i could see how that can be a problem it kind of feels like uh charlie the chocolate factory syndrome we got to break through the glass window and everyone's afraid to break through the glass window for freedom you know yeah yeah yeah because it's because church is a it's a big thing and that's for a lot of people and myself included for a long time of my life that's all i knew you know that's how i governed my life you know even when i was at school and stuff like that i was just acting churchy i mean and i still do at

churchy too, because that's a part of me, but then it was different. It wasn't because I was being myself, it was because it was all I knew. So when I got of age and had all these other opportunities to get outside, it just seemed like the thing I was supposed to do. And let me also, I would say this,

when I was five years old I never forget five or six years old I never forget playing at church this one time and they would we was doing this video and the preacher the path though one of the assistant pastors of the church at the time after the after I got off the organ came to me had a video camera he was like Cory you're gonna you know you're gonna play for the church at the time after the after i got off the organ came to me he had a video camera he was like corey you're gonna you know you're gonna play for the church or the world when you get older you're gonna play for the church of the world and that five i said the world my hand i said the world yeah i had no clue what the world was i only knew the four walls of the church at the time for those five six years of my life but i always knew there was something bigger and called

you know than than that for me. And I'm just glad to be able to, you know follow my dreams and passions and see it come to fruition the way it is right now. Cause you know, every time I'm out, you know on stage now and doing my thing now I'm having my biggest joy. This is like the biggest of my happiness right now.

Let's fucking go. That's what I'm talking about Corey. joy. This is like the biggest of my happiness right now. Let's fucking go. That's what I'm talking about, Corey. Let's fucking go, big dog. Yo, that's wild. That's great. So you broke the, okay. So I got one more question. We'll get out of the church world. What was that conversation like with your grandmother

when you said, Hey, I'm out? The first initial one, I think she was cool. Yeah, because she always knew the world. I mean, you said the world. Yeah, she knew, but she wanted to make sure, more importantly, that I was covered, that I was okay. I don't remember really having much pushback from my grandma or some of my family i think uh most i want to say most was in support even if they didn't understand because they you know never lived a life like this but um my grandma to be you know to answer your question is my biggest supporter and my biggest and my best friend that's

that's my homie and um um and she understood and understands and, um, she was cool. She's been cool. Yeah. What has she taught you about life so far? Oh, every day she teaches me. Every day. Um, maybe one of the biggest things I could probably point out is she has a saying that she tells me, you know, I could be talking about anything about my life and, and,

and whether she understands or not, which most times she do, if not every time she says, do Jesus, she says, do deep, do Jesus. And that's her way of saying like, treat people the way you want to be treated, do deep, do Jesus. And that's her way of saying, like, treat people the way you want to be treated. You know, like do the best you can do in every one of these situations that you put yourself in. Like treat people with love and respect and kindness. And that's a big deal to me, you know, because I'm sure we all in situations. I put myself in situations where, know things could turn crazy you know and

crazy you want to then act and act crazy you know and then normally when i do that that's not the best thing to do so no i feel that man you know but we're kids we don't know better yeah i don't know yeah even to this day so did you get did you go to college in north denton with all those cats i know i'm from brooklyn i didn't go to then i met them i met them in new york uh with my boy sputt who played who was playing keyboard at the time but uh he invited me to um to a snarky puppy show uh in brook Brooklyn where there was more people on stage than there was an audience I don't doubt it doc where was the gig at it was like Rockwood or some Williamsburg

musical no not Rockwood it was Williamsburg yeah musical on wife yeah yeah I believe yeah so and then you guys, so what'd you see in Snarky Puppy that made you want, Snarky Puppy that made you want to be in that band? I never, you know, I was, so I, my first gig was with Kenny Garrett and I've played several gigs, you know, when I got about 18, 19, 20 years old

with P Diddy and Sean Kingston, some rap gigs. You know, when I got about 18, 19, 20 years old, with P Diddy and Sean Kingston, some rap gigs, and all of those gigs was comfy. When I say comfy, they was like, you know, nice hotel rooms. Hey, flying and you know, let's go. That's the shit I'm talking about. When I saw Snarky Puppy, it was the absolute reverse. It was 15 people in the van and everybody's like this, tight, two people in the room, three people in the room, all types of craziness. But the thing that got me was i never seen a group of people dedicate themselves to the music so much like like in those other situations that i was in you know they was all good and great musical situations and i've learned so much from them um um coming up but um there was always you know like a person or some some kind of situation where things were just crazy. Maybe not crazy, but just different where it wasn't about the music, I should say.

Somebody might just be about themselves or whatever the case is. I didn't really know that or understand that then, but when I saw Snarky, I was like, whoa, there's not a lot of egos happening. There's just the music like they all went to college together so they was ready to just you know excuse me buddy up and and do that but i never seen that even in the church church stuff that i was into you know it was like wow like snarky they they they knew they wasn't gonna get paid they knew nobody was coming to the shows they didn't care.

They like, no, we out here grinding from the ground up and no intent, but they, you know, like, like really putting in the work, really practicing this craft. Then there was, you know, the fact that there was just, you know, 15, 20 people playing parts. That was crazy to me, like four keyboard players, but nobody's stepping on each other's toes everybody's like oh i'm gonna

play the string part i use my play to organ you know you know ten horn players are like you know and then the other thing that really got me too is like when somebody's solo the whole band is supporting the solo so i was like i can kind of get with that i don't remember joining a band though i don't even know like when like that happened that just got crazy yeah just gonna take a solo and the next thing i was like you know we're gonna bust the philly or something you would answer damn yeah that's wild do you think snarky so you worked with diddy and you worked with these uh producers before then you worked with snarky do you think working with snarky and working with like diddy made you be able to work with kanye

uh i guess but no no what is he all about them is he like a little bit of mixture of all about the music and business or is it is he just all music like i never he's definitely a mixture he's all about both of those things he's he's a. He understands it. He's so full into everything he puts himself into. And that's one thing I really love about Kanye. Everything he puts himself into, like in terms of career, I should say, and artistic value, he dives deep.. He's deep into it. You know, like listen to him talk about the fashion world, which is something I don't really know about or not really paying attention to that much. Um, it was just like, wow, like that's, that's incredible. I didn't know those things even existed the way that you're, um, you know, that you're talking about but the music absolutely is all the way in to the music i um watching him uh when we was making the donda when i first walked in the room i never forget they was playing music uh they was playing one of the new songs and

his energy was through the roof like he didn't need a hype man he didn't need a hype man he was like ah you know giving people dash and stuff like that He was like, ah, you know, giving people dashes. So I was like, I love that. I love that, especially as a creator, because sometimes I'm a little hard on myself or I'm over judging or whatever, whatever. But he was just in the moment like, oh, this is what we did. This is it. And he's fully into the music, fully into the, you know, the business, fully into the fashion stuff and whatever artistic, you know, stuff that he puts in and it's great. I think the thing, um, I will say, I think the reason why the kind of thing works so perfect, uh, it was so perfect, perfectly worked out for me because it wasn't about

snarky. It wasn't about Diddy or those other producers. It was about church. That's what I was going to talk about. So, you know, You understood it. You understood church. It was, it was right up my alley. It was like, it was just right up my alley. It was a perfect gift. And like, that's like,

that's what I wanted to talk about. Like, was it hard? Cause you had all these hard feelings about the business of church, you know? And these ideas of like how you've left the church to go back into this amazing situation with Kanye and write, you know, kind of gospel hip hop. Yeah. Was it, were you having those bad feelings of church while creating the music?

Or did you let that be the past and just focus on the music? See, so the thing is there's a separation so whatever the negative part that i talked about church or can talk about church and it doesn't have nothing to do with the spirit of church it has nothing to do with the music of church the music and the spirit of church is like high level is god to me you know it's like it's like getting the degree you know when you go to college or something like that like you go through all these crazy things you get tests and whatever can have you but you make it you graduate you get a degree and you get to use that degree for the rest of your life or whatever job that you choose, you know?

And that's how I feel about church. So, like, when it comes down to gospel music, I still like it. You know, when it comes down to, you know, playing church songs, you know, even by myself, if nobody's watching, it's like I can pull up a hymn and be like, this is, you know, my connection to not just music but to god so um um getting in the kanye situation it was like yeah i was all in because i'm still deeply connected to gospel music i'm still deeply connected to my roots as it pertains to church um that bad stuff don't got nothing to do with that don't got nothing don't got nothing to do with that. Don't got nothing to do with the church or whatever. And I can, you know, I respect, you know, I put things in their places and respect these as they are.

So it was, it was right. Once I figured out what he was doing and how that was happening, I was like, oh, I'm all in. This is my wheelhouse right now. Let's go. This is a layup. Yeah. This is, yeah.

This is John Stockton from three feet, man. Wow. Yeah. That is, oh man. Are you an athlete? Do you like basketball? I love basketball. I think that, first of all, I played basketball in high school and I really wanted to go to

the league. Yeah? Oh yeah. And if I didn't like hurt my hand before a gig where I had to make the choice between music and basketball, basketball might have won it's so important to me now where i connect almost everything i do musically to basketball um same thing and if i want to play music right now you know i would be a high school or college basketball coach maybe an nba coach if i was like really into it but i i i'm a big basketball head

and uh i talk about it all the time so yeah a little bit yeah i'm a i'm you know musician is why i play piano but i'm die hard laker fan and i see parallels i see parallels in basketball in music what are your parallels between music and basketball oh there's so many, but here's a few. I feel like music, depending on what piece of music, like the live stage, let's talk about tour, like live stage, live music rather. I think live music is like fast break, showtime Lakers. Like that's the thing. like fast break showtime Lakers.

Like that's the thing. Every position on the floor correlates to a musical instrument. Like the power forward in the center is like the drums and the bass. The guitar is like the small forward to me, you know. Why do you think the guitar is small forward? Because to me, you know, or. Why, why do you think the guitar is small forward? Because it can get into the base area. It can get into the lead area, like a guard,

like a point guard. In its most role, if it's not like a, like a, you know, somebody who's leading the band. In its role, it's like right in the middle. It's like right, it's that thing that kind of glues a lot of other pieces of the band together because it has the rhythm aspect and it has the harmonic aspect, you know, which like, you know, small four, just like to me, like you can guard on defense.

You can guard a point guard, you know, if you're good at defense, like a Jason Tatum or Jimmy Butler. You might be able to guard a center if you're strong enough, you know, like a LeBron James, you know. So I think the small four is like guitar to me. And you can go crazy with all the effects and do all those things. So what would be a shooting guard?

I feel like the shooting guard and the point guards are, you know, keyboards or horns. Shooting guard might be like a horn, you know, because the horns only have one thing to do. You know, it's like. It's a shoot. It's a shoot, you know. We don't really want you to do anything else unless you really can. And I would say like the keyboards are normally

the point guards, they know everybody's positions and you know, in my case, lead the band. So. Let's go, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, in our case, you know. I love it. What about you being a point guard for your own band? Are you intense?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, oh, fuck. You ain't playing. You ain't playing. Let's go. What we do?

What y'all doing over there, you know? I'm a little bit more chill now. I mean, I guess because I've been playing with my guys for a while, so I'm more chill. They know what I like to do and how I like to communicate and do things. But I'm very intense. I used to be way more intense when I was younger, though. I'm doing like, you know, screaming at people or, you know, like, you know, making sure people get their thing together. You know what I'm saying?

Because there was a basketball mentalityian what are we doing yeah you know why playing like that you know what i'm saying why are you not on your notes like this the chord you know what i'm saying um yes were you hard on the snarky no no snarky was hard on me. No shit. Mike Leigh. Mike Leigh. Because I wanted to kind of like do things my way, which I did do, but I had to find their offense. I had to get in their triangle offense, literally. They become effective because where I came from and what I was doing, even though it was good and it was scoring points for the team on these live shows and things that we was doing um mike league was on some who was the band director you know band leader um um he was like man no we need to be uh voicing these chords there's four keyboards players for a reason so if you add notes inside of some of those chords it's kind of like a little cluttered but coming from church sometimes adding notes was like that was it was like yo like we playing these big chords you know um so i i really learned especially in that band i want to say it was like oh it's important if it's just a triad

to just play the triad you know man you're like magic johnson i've been watching winning time you know i gotta start watching that you got it man because i've learned so much about him you know like just his how it just his he's like the perfect improv artist yeah he could play the center yes he could do everything i mean yeah that is like the perfect jazz cat to me yeah yeah i agree i totally agree he can do it all and and and their fast break the way the way you know showtime lakers fast break that's that's you know jazz but that's fast that's music that's live music and because you know anything can happen right like if you got people running with you you can get the ball this way you get the ball that the ball that way. There's so many different things that happen, but it's not the same. You know,

I don't feel like any fast break is the same. So you ready to understand? He just knew like how to get people to ball in their positions to score. And that's, yeah, I like to, I like to think of myself as a mixture between Magic and Kobe. Is that, let's fucking go. Two Lakers. You know, I like that all day kobe is that let's go two lakers you know i like that all day cory henry let's go big dog let's go oh man it's been a pleasure talking to you bro thanks so much for your time um i'm a big fan my band's playing with your band with you guys a bunch this year so hopefully let's get together and at least get it yeah let's get a hug in man let's keep it going it's a lot a lot of basketball

talk i love that i love when people know what i'm talking about when i make the sentences i'm in man i'm in so give you my home that's what's up i appreciate that who's your team man you nick fan no um no technically i'm a laker guy because of of Kobe you know and uh and seeing what the Lakers did last year is just just tough to deal with I'm hoping that uh I'm hoping that we get it together but more than anything I'm a I'm a basketball I'm an NBA fan like like I I like the Lakers right but I love watching but I watch I'll be watching the Sacramento so i watch a lot of games i just love the game of basketball so yeah it is a beautiful sport man and it's underappreciated in our scene like i gotta i'm in i got this we have this jam band fantasy league where we have like all these

musicians from all these jam bands and we're playing basketball we're talking and everyone knows their and like we all really believe that improv is like you said like a fast break it is so true man yeah yeah you ever meet like kendrick lamar or anything not yet haven't met kendrick yet uh but i hope to meet him soon i'm about to check out his record i was just on twitter and everybody is going crazy talking about his record and i i love his i love the pimple to pim a butterfly so much. Yeah. That's probably one of my favorites, if not my favorite rap album, like of all time.

I just, I don't know if it gets better. So I'm looking to hear this new one and looking to meet him. You know Kamasi Washington, yeah? Yeah, that's a homie. Yeah. What do you teach you about music? Cause he's kind of in that same world too. What What do you teach you about music? Because he's kind of in that same world, too. What did Kamasi teach me about music?

Yeah. Oh, I don't know. But when I listen to him play, he's playing with heart. He's playing with feeling. It's always heart. It's never like cute or just like, I'm just up here. I feel the pain when he plays. I heard him play not too long ago, and I'm just like i feel the pain when he plays you know i heard him play not too long ago and i'm just like man like like everything you went through was in that performance you know and um

um and that's inspiring to me to see to hear um hear him play he's just he's an amazing amazing musician you're like that too though corey aren't you do you put your heart out out there is it hard for you to be vulnerable on stage? It doesn't seem like it. No, no, no. It's all hard for me. It's not, you know, the skill stuff happens in my room when I'm practicing and, you know, it's like practice stuff. But when I get to the stage, it's like,

I'm just all feeling, all heart, you know, and just trying to play with my soul, play for my soul, you know, and all's all about that. You married? Huh? You married or anything? Girlfriend? No, I'm running for my life. Let's go.

Running for my life. Is it too hard to, when you give your whole heart to music and everything else, is it hard to find love? I don't know. I don't, I wouldn't say it's hard to find love uh i don't know i don't i wouldn't say it's hard to find love it's just a matter of being willing to want to find love yeah i've probably been in love twice in my life and um once or twice and both being good experiences um i don't think the music got in the way of it as much i just think i got in the way of it so uh now i'm learning myself a little bit more to understand um how to marry the two and get it together and once i you know find the right one it you know she's

gonna make me feel like music yeah beautiful man well i get at like is it get out of your own way in a way when you're with someone? Like, you know, you said, like, it was me. Like, what were you doing you realized that you weren't giving her enough attention or something? You said it was about you. Yeah, it's just, like, being on the road is, you know, I feel like a superhero. Yeah. You know?

Yeah, I feel that. You know, I feel that you know i feel like batman and when you come home and have to deal with like real life you're like you know clark i mean you know bruce wayne it's like a very different experience and uh i think at the times of my life when i was you know trying to you know be in relationships and stuff like that um i didn't know i didn't know how to appreciate the bruce wayne experience if you know what i mean i wanted to keep it all batman so now understanding that it takes both of those things to make the superhero not just you know the cape and the uh the superpowers it takes to the day job and the consistent, you know, want to develop the

relationship in terms of, you know, talking and communicating and being vulnerable, you know, like, like, like, like, like when I'm on stage, it's just automatically happens. Vulnerability happens, changes to music, but in relationships, that's not all it's not so automatic. Yeah, it's so funny how that happens, man. Like, we're we don't know how to be humans, because we've traveled for so long, man. I've been on the road since I was 18 to been doing 200 plus shows. I know that I'm like, I don't know how to be a fucking human.

Like, like, what's regular? And I'm doing this, you know, pandemic season that we're in i've learned so much about myself in terms of like you know being home and uh doing the things that i you know like you know and trying to establish as a lifestyle right it's kind of hard to get back on the road i know dude i've never been home for this long. I'm like whoa this is what I this is what people enjoy. I'm like damn what the what am I doing all the time? What? You know what I'm saying? I get to go to the gym every day like whoa like. Is that why you did start doing lessons? Huh? Is that why you started like doing master classes

and stuff? That's one of the reasons that's one of the reasons i really do have a joy and you know i do find joy in trying to help people um you know with the music part so that was a part of it too but yeah there's definitely a little bit of pivot in there where uh if i could the moment that i started figuring out how to be successful at home yeah i'm like whoa you know let's do this a little bit more you know i want to stay home play nba 2k let's go yeah we get old as fuck cory henry we old as fuck now dog we can't be rocking like this no more bro i'd be yeah you said 18 so yeah we you know that's a lot of years in the game of going crazy and just you know being a superhero so okay i got one last question i'll let you go um okay philosophy and teaching who's your coach who's who's the coach oh also i didn't give you a shooting guard it's

jordan of course i had a feeling i kind of had a feeling it was just going to be jordan what about curry as a shooting guard was just going to be jordan what about curry as a shooting guard i was going to say curry though i was thinking that but you know um because he's got that he's got that point guard thing if you need to switch i need if you need some time take a breather that's true too that is true but mj was is the ultimate dude just ultimate it's just like he's just a crusher you know you know or or it would be the other way it would be like braun at the three and kobe at the two then you probably got it all together but um but actually no i was gonna say kevin durant i was gonna say kevin durant at the small forward but that's what i thought you're gonna put kevin

durant at power forward because he could stretch it yeah that's actually the vibe kevin duran because he could shoot and and he can defend yeah i just texted kevin duran and and told him you're on you're not on the list so we can't we can't go back brooklyn damn that's i mean that's good for brooklyn having kevin durant out there in brooklyn it's good brooklyn yeah i hope you carry too they over there tripping talking about maybe they ain't gonna They ain't going to trade him. They're not going to get nothing. They're going to get Russell Westbrook if they're trying to trade him. I might trade him for Anthony Davis, but that's another- Well, no.

You stay away from me, Anthony Davis. Brooklyn, you stay... No. I like the move- They both not going to touch the floor until playoffs. I'd rather... You know what I mean? I actually like that move because I don't trust Anthony Davis's knee. I i just don't i'm over it yeah i'm over it too i'd rather get two or three good players or a kairi and be like yeah let's go lebron like because lebron still play he still had a great season and low-key russell westbrook was the scapegoat a little you know it wasn't his

fault all the way it was not his fault no now i don't like vogel at all since we are now now that we're in here i don't i i didn't like vogel when we won the championship no i thought defensive minded yeah i didn't think he was the right choice for that team but um um but brian don't like to be coached so i understand why he was there and why he's there i i didn't like vogel when he was when it was game five of when he was indiana pacers when paul george and they just flopped that series I'm like they didn't know how to once they double team their star they didn't know how to pass the ball to everyone else and everything yeah all right so who's your coach if you don't think Vogel's the co who's the coach who is your all-time coach I want to say Phil Jackson, right? Right. Because I just like the triangle. And I like how he used other strategies outside of basketball to get people to.

Oh, like Buddhism. You know, all those stretching techniques and everything. It was just so many stuff. I was like, man, that's just because it's more about that sometimes than it is about x's and o's you know once you get great players on the floor you know it's about how to get them to play to their maximum capacity and you don't even really have to tell a great player how to do that if they know how to play but you do have to put in a position to do so and um and i know phil jackson did that in a great way i i take my concept of that where in terms of musicians,

it's like I might not have to tell my band exactly what to do, especially when we're in fast break mode. But I can tell that if something is off, what I have to do to get it back on. And it's normally not even X's and O's. It's not like, hey, man, you need to tune up. Or hey, man, you need to change your cymbals. And it's normally not even X's and O's. It's not like, hey man, you need to tune up or hey man, you need to, you know, change your cymbals. And it's not that stuff.

It's like, hey man, like, yo, let's go outside and like get some air and let's go listen to, you know, X, Y, or Z, you know? And it's like, oh, that's the perception. Oh, now we can play, you know? And I think Phil Jackson had that component, so. If you're Phil Jackson, who'd be the Dennis Rodman you'd have to have him go to the titty bar in Vegas and had to come back and now he's doing better again?

Musician or basketball player? Musician. Who's that in your band? Who's your Dennis Rodman where sometimes you just have to fine tune the tweak to get him back into the mojo again. Am I bad? I hope they don't see this. Call them out, Corey. Call them out. Let them know.

Am I bad? Who do we... See, most people in my band aren't, they don't have Dennis Rodman energy in terms of go crazy but maybe they do so i'm probably going to go with tayron lockett or uncle reed you hear that well you know and that's the thing like that was the best thing phil jackson understood rodman a lot of people shooed him away and my bad i'm sorry my boy adam agati because uncle reed is not that adam agati but it's you know a little bit well it's awesome well corey henry this has been a pleasure bro thank you i'm loving it that's a good question you got me thinking like

who's the tennis rom in this band i'm gonna tell lockett who's the guy that you don't want to tell is the goat in your band huh who's the guy that you do not want to tell him that he's the goat but he's the goat i don't want to tell him i don't know i feel like they all probably charie reed or nicholas simrat simrat man simrat he's just great like what simrad does with the keyboards in terms of sonic value is just insane and yeah there's no people players like him so you still get inspired by these guys which guys your boy yeah every every day every time almost every time we're playing together i'm just like wow you know um i'm currently out with uh right now my trio which is just me and lockett and my

boy josh easily is on bass and um um watching lockett play uh some of this other stuff because we're normally playing four on the floor in this party you know which he just kills yeah you know he's like a shack to me he just he just wants to be in the paint he doesn't want to take no threes he just wants to be in the paint uh but we kind of open it up and playing some of the jazz stuff and some of the fusion stuff and some of those other stuff and he brought some splashes out and i you know in the sound check i was like man what you doing with these splashes man what you and i you know and in soundcheck i was like man what you doing with these splashes man what you these little symbols you know what the hell what's going on but the way he's playing these splashes especially when he goes into solo mode it's like wow i'll be looking at him like damn like

that's incredible you know i feel like that about each one of my band members that play with me, you know, Uncle Reed, my boy Josh, Simrad, Sharky, you know, the girls, you know. Do you like playing naked as a three-piece? Say what? Do you like playing naked like that as a three-piece? What do you mean? Just, you know, just a smaller, like a three-piece band. You don't have as much filler filler so like you could see your you could see the mistakes or feel the mistakes you know it's not you can't feel it as much you know you like it it has its place i like it um do i like playing with my big band more yes yeah

it's a party dude it's a party and and and i don't play much keyboards anymore over the last few years. I've transitioned my mind and my whole musical career to be a singer. So the fact that I'm frontmanning and being a singer, when I get back into these situations at the Trio, I'm like, oh, I can play. And I can't get the keyboards to do the things I wanted to do or change the chords on a fly, you know, because I have the entire harmonic value, you know,

in my finger. Nobody's, no guitar player, nobody else playing, you know, in my lane. So, you know, right now I love it. Right now I'm having a great time, but I can't wait till, you know, when I see you and, you know, these festivals. It's going down.

Be on, you know, you'll see Simrad and these festivals it's gone down beyond you know you'll see Simrad and everybody else and I'll be in my glory where I could just dance around you like being a front man absolutely is it funny I think I like being a singer and a front man more than I like playing keyboards now let's fucking go oh this is gonna be scary dude if you like this and you're gonna get really good at it and you're already good but you're gonna get really good at it watch the out dude i'm stoked for this dude cory henry let's go dude i'm clapping it up for you let's go dude you go get it get all those dreams go get every single one cory go out there go up for me okay bud yes i will i'll

do the best i can andy all right right, buddy. Well, nice to meet you. I'll see you at Bonnaroo. Let's have a great time. I'll see you at summer camp. I'll see you everywhere, but have fun and, uh, have fun in Japan and, uh, go Bill Murray on me and go lost in translation for me. Go out there. It's about to be a beautiful summer, man. We're going to have a lot of fun. Make sure you're taking care of yourself, too, bro. Absolutely. Absolutely. Drink a gallon of water.

Go do it, brother. Have a great day. Corey Henry. Cheers, bro. I need to have... I'm having a tiff with Nick McDaniels, too. We need to get him on this. I'm on your side on this one.

We're going to talk about this. This is propaganda. This is communism as well. Yeah, everything's communism. We're being censored. We're being censored by the federal fucking government. Okay. I'm going to preference this.

Nick has been starting this rumor. Not me. Real Nick. Nick McDaniel is one of my best friends for big something. Can we call him real Nick? Yeah. I'm just Nick. Get on this Zoom right now.

Okay. Before he answers, I am on your side in this, but I'm on his side in this and that i do love a good bit i love a good bit man this is getting too this is getting too out of hand now like everyone's in my dm saying i'm gonna bring you mids to bonnaroo so if people don't know nick mcdaniels has started this rumor that i smoke mids if you don't know what mids are it's regular weed regular weed which is bullshit first of all because we are sponsored by one of the best weed companies dialed in gummies

and to call them mids they're actually the best they have multiple awards is a disrespect so i'm let's do the whole plug right now yeah tell them about it i'm gonna get nick on this zoom right now they're the cleanest gummies on I'm going to get Nick on this fucking zoom. They're the cleanest gummies on the planet. Right. I love to eat gummies. They knock me out every night. Give me a full night's sleep.

And I am an insomniac. And then I wake up and I feel there's still a little tinge of it left. And I feel so good all day. And then, um, what? They're softness. They win awards every time.

It's just like the cleanest, best gummy. There is the coolest thing about it is like, they might be collaborating with your favorite growers. They probably are. They probably are. They're making gummies of your favorite weed. You know why they are?

You know why they are? Because it's not fucking mids. Yeah, it's not fucking mids, Nick. You better answer. Oh, I swear to God. Hillbilly, North Carolina. Oh, my God. Right.

Okay. He just read it. So I'm busy right now. I'm planning my festival. The big what? The big. Oh, he's on. He's got it I'm planning my festival. The big, what? Oh, he's on, he's got it. He's in it. Go get them. First of all, classist. Fuck. Very class. Oh, this is yeah. How last this brick?

I'm going to call him us and then you can start asking him. Yeah. Let's find Nick. Nick, you're on the podcast. We need to talk this over. Nice serial killer bedroom. You got there. Even worse. It's sterile. Nick, you classist fuck. This is a trap. I just get trapped. This was a trap over here. Kim Jong-un over here of the jam seed. Jesus Christ, Nick, this has gone far, far too long. And for you to call me smoking mids, now your whole fan base knows. And now people in the scene are in my DMs, Nicholas.

This is cult activity. This is cult activity. And I want you to explain your reasoning of this, and then we'll discuss mine. Nick. Great bit, by the way. I didn't start the way i didn't start this you didn't start it you're standing in front of 2 000 people chanting it and you're

the one that smokes mints frasco smokes smith he's got a spotlight on him holding a microphone pumping his fists i didn't start it mussolini's a garden store socialism i didn't start it but yeah i didn't i didn't take it. Yeah, I didn't. You didn't stop it. I didn't run with it. Nick, you're my boy. You know how much I hype you up? I tell everyone you have a 13-inch dong. I tell everyone your fucking cock is huge,

and you're out here saying I smoke fucking mints. Talk about propaganda. What the fuck? You don't have to cover your mouth. We're not in the room with you. Nick, tell me. What's up? Now we need to make shirts. to we need to clear the air do i smoke mids these are

people on the internet doing this you're on the internet you're on the internet right now this is the internet you're on the internet this is a podcast uh buddy we heard that you were we heard Speaker 2 0 Speaker 1 0 Speaker 2 0 Speaker 1 0 Speaker 2 0 Speaker 1 0 Speaker 1 0 Speaker 1 0 Speaker 2 0 Speaker 1 0 Speaker 2 0 Speaker 1 0 Speaker 2 0 Speaker 1 0 Speaker 2 0 Speaker 1 0 Speaker 2 0 Speaker 1

0 Speaker 2 0 Speaker 1 0 Speaker 2 0 Speaker 1 0 Speaker 2 0 Speaker 1 0 Speaker 2 0 Speaker 1 0 Speaker 2 0 Speaker 1 This is not what love is. This is our little faux beef, you know? This is our little, it's our, you know, this is like Tupac and Biggie of the jam scene. Okay. It's big something. Everything. Can you edit me out of this part?

So it's just the couch when he says that? I don't want to be around anyone when they say that about themselves. How was your weekend, Nick? Your shows look killer. It was awesome. It was really good. That's great. I'm glad your career is going well.

How's the other Nick's career doing? It was awesome. It was really good. That's great. I'm glad your career is going well. How's the other Nick's career doing? No, it looked like Rooster Rock was slamming. Did you guys do summer camp the night before? Us too? Yeah, we were like bouncing around each other. Summer camp on Saturday. We had Taz sit in. It was sick. Yeah, that's fucking badass. Taz is the shit.

Isn't it crazy how old he's getting how old is he i know he's huge he's so tall he's so tall he might be he might i can't say that because i don't want to be like a pedophile but he might be in the hotness in the hot rush mountain he wouldn't technically be a pedophile he's only like he's over 18. but we're old as nick it's still not a pedophile like legally but you're a weirdo this is a great opening segment yo go get your girlfriend in there where's she at she names the four other guys in big something besides nick hey brie look at nick's beautiful girlfriend let's go what's up queen welcome to the show hi okay we're doing we're baking you're breaking over here oh you guys are cute day off wholesome shit we're talking about hot dudes and you're just bacon okay we got such a piece of shit god you are

such you're always so good how yeah I should change my name such a sweet dude Nick really well to ask her the question all right for hot dudes no what do she think man um i'm going through all the bands right now uh who do we got i bet she has three locked and loaded chris chris myers chris myers is a good looking dude he's ripped um yeah uh all the dudes in umfriesys are nice looking fellas. This episode has been the Umphreys propaganda. This is like, everyone, even Stace is like, oh, Joel Cummins, you're saying Chris Myers. And he is. The thing is, they're right. What about Bayless? No one's talking about Bayless?

He's hot. He's hot. He's got like a dad hot to him. Yeah, they're not like, he's more like handsome. All right, we're wasting, he's his only day off. I want to hear what his girlfriend said, because I bet she has three like walking loaded. No, no, no. You're not trying to break him up today?

I'm not trying to break him up today. Nick, we love you. Thanks for being on the show. We just had to clear a couple things out that I won. Do not smoke mids. Two, I fucking love you. And three, that's it. That's all.

I love it and I don't smoke mids. All right, thank you for being part of the show. What do we call next? Let's call someone else. Love you, bud. Love you, bud. Have a great day. Send me a picture of the cookies so I could post them. I will. All right. Look at this. Look at this nice fucking genuine dude. I don't think I should be named Nick anymore.

Later, bud. Love you. He's such a better person than me. He's such a good dude. Shut up. He's like my mom's dream son. He's such a good dude. He's like my mom's dream son. All right. Bye Nick. We gotta, we gotta close the show. I love you. Bye. Love you. Hey, wow. What a star studded event. We should call more people in the closing. Yeah, we will call Greg and ask them about the hour going out. I love it. All right guys. Have a good one. Have a great day. It's going to be a great week.

I could feel it. Um, it's Tuesday and I hope you guys just fill it with everything you want to do. And if you have to do shit, you don't want to do, just take a step back and say, I'll do this. And then I get the back to what I really want to do.

Right, buddy. Yeah, I agree with that sentiment. And I'm going to back to Cali. I'm going to Boston for the finals. Oh, yeah. Game three, baby.

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