Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 178.5: Isaac Teel of Tauk (A Peach Fest Episode)

Episode Date: July 1, 2022

Who's going to Peach Fest this weekend?! Oh shucks, not you? Fret not! Just toss on a pair of skimpy shorts, pour yourself a cocktail, and tune into Isaac Teel of Tauk on the Interview Hour this week! You'll be instantly transported to scenic Scranton, floating on a tube amongst a bunch of jam band music-loving strangers. Stay hydrated, dammit! Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out Andy's new song, "Puff Break (Believe That)" on iTunes, Spotify  Check it: www.taukband.com This weekend! thepeachmusicfestival.com Produced by Andy Frasco Joe Angelhow Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Arno Bakker

Hey, look at us. Andy Frasco's world-saving podcast, Two for One. Another Friday edition with our guy. He even showed up with a fucking Laker jersey on. I mean, how could I not? Oh, yeah, he did. It's, you know, winning room. Isaac from Talk is on the show.

Let's go. It's also reversible. I love it. And on the other side, it's go. It's also reversible. I love it. And on the other side, it's Kobe. That would be sick. They used to have those champion jerseys. Oh, they did? Where they had one side Kobe, one side Shaq.

One side's Derek Fisher, one side's Robert Ory. I think the craziest one I saw was the Wizards, Michael Jordan, and Chicago. Put your mic closer. That's cool. Oh, yeah. You got me there. Yeah, I saw some weird ones, too, where it's like one side is something, the other side is...

Same player, but just different team. Peach Fest episode. Ooh, Peach. How many Peach Fests have you done, Isaac? Oh, my God, at least six. I know. You guys are like East Coast fucking badasses, dude. I mean, that New York swag.

It's crazy. It's actually not very far from New York City, is it? No, it's only two hours, which is crazy. I mean, I'm flying to New York, so meet the guys the day before. What a life you have right now. First off, do you guys really like the Rockies or are you just repping Denver?

I'm into the Rockies right now. I'm into the purple and black. Yeah, they have great merch. The colors just work. Yeah, they do. I do. I like it too. I want to be a Rockies fan. I feel like such a fair weather fan

now that I want to be an Avalanche fan. I know. I'm definitely bandwagon jumping. I can't get into hockey for some reason. I don't know why. It is so fun. I've been watching all the playoffs. It's fast-paced. It's fast-paced.

And these guys, for being so angry and so mean, they're so agile. Oh, yeah. Elegant on the ice. And they're on skates going that fast. Dude, I would kill myself. Oh, my God. I would kill myself on skates like that. No, I can't do that.

How long have you guys known each other? I don't know. Years, multiple years. Even before I moved to Denver, though. For sure. Where were you living? Where'd you grow up? I grew up in Staten Island, New York.

I was born in Brooklyn. My family moved to Staten Island and I did everything up until high school there. Roo-Tang. And then, yeah. And then I went to the Drummers Collective in Manhattan, lived in New York City for a while, lived in Brooklyn for about 10, 15 years

and then moved out to Denver in 2019. A lot of Italian towns in Staten Island. Was Staten Island racist? Oh my God, yes. But you know what? I went to a school that had every kind of person you can ever see. Oh, so like some parts are more segregated than others?

Absolutely. It's like anywhere else. Like Tottenville, very racist. Tell me about it. I mean, I grew up in this area called West Brighton in New York, and that's pretty eclectic. I mean, it has like Mexican families, black families,

white families, a lot of Albanians. Oh, there's really intense people. Oh yeah. Don't fuck with them by the way. Really Albanians? Do not fuck with Albanians.

Yeah, they're wild. That country has been at war for hundreds and hundreds of years. Yeah. And it's, I mean, it's a real thing, but I mean,

all kinds of people. So it was, we knew if you lived in West Brighton or the west side of Staten Island, you're not really going to the other side. You're not going to the South Shore. So it wasn't as racist where you lived. No, it was not.

It was like a melting pot. Yeah, it's a melting pot. It's like all the families that didn't live in Brooklyn and wanted to live cheaper. They just lived in Staten Island. But you don't go anywhere. Staten Island is like, oh gosh, it's terrible.

Everybody from Staten Island does, I think it's like the highest rate of people who are from there and also just tell everyone never go there. The only thing you should see in Staten Island is probably Snug Harbor and the Staten Island Ferry. But once you take the ferry, you could just go right back to Manhattan.

Just get off the ferry. I'm just going to stay on. I just wanted to see the ferry. That's what people do. They don't pay money to go see the Statue of Liberty. They get on the free Staten Island Ferry and see it, take pictures, come back. And Pete Davidson's dick. Yep, Pete Davidson's dick.

Which is not that big. Oh, you've seen it? I mean, I'm from Staten Island. Let's go. You know, Pete Davidson bought one of the Staten Island fairies. And turned it into a comedy club venue. Comedy club, which is kind of brilliant because they have just a shit ton of fairies chilling on the dock, not being used. It's such a great idea.

Man, if I had that kind of money, I'd buy one too. You know who else? This guy, I forgot his name, but I hung out with him in New York. He's such a great idea. Man, if I had that kind of money, I'd buy one too. You know who else? This guy, I forgot his name, but I hung out with him in New York. He's like this jam. He's like the mayor. He's big fish head. You probably met this guy.

He was a stock guy, and then he retired really young. Interesting. And he owns The Stand. The Stand. The comedy club in New York. Oh, yeah, yeah. And so he's an investor with pete on this um the stand on the ferry comedy club they're doing i want to get on that boat and see what's up yeah it's crazy i mean if you're on a boat in new york city that's just

so much fun so we played that boat um you ever played the liberty bill rock sock rocks on soft where they start in like wall street and they um the rock boat they go up is it the west side rocks off oh it's a different thing yeah and they just go up and then the rocks off on the water to stand you don't want to see you you stop at the statue liberty so i guess you're going south no you're going north north uh-huh so you go north and then you stay there until the sunset and then you play a set that's killer it's fun that's killer um i want to know a little more we'll get into all the fun stuff but i do want i do want to when was the first time you um

understood what racism was oh i gotta say when i was 13 i was walking i just got off the bus coming from school and i you know you know, I don't know. I'm a huge wrestling fan. Yeah, me too. Back in the day, Mr. Perfect was kind of my guy. Really? Oh, yeah. Him, Shawn Michaels.

Shawn Michaels. Mr. Perfect started out in WWF. And then he went to WCW. But he always did this crazy trick where he would chew a piece of gum walking down the ring, spit it up in the air, spit it and smack it with his hand on cue. Oh my God. Every time. So I loved doing that.

I did that. A cop saw me do it. At 13? At 13. And you slapped one of your friends? No. Thank God. Oh, you spit it and then you slapped it.

Yeah, you slapped the gum. I spit it up in the air and I was harmless. It was cold outside snowing. Yeah. So he sees, he sees me do it and I'm, he's like, uh,

Hey, you're going to go pick that up. And I'm like, ah, it's just a piece of gum. And he had a smile on his face when he said it big white guy. And I'm like, that's cool.

So I'm walking, I'm like inches away from my house. And he's like, Oh, come back here, nigga. And I'm like, that's cool. So I'm walking. I'm like inches away from my house. And he's like, oh, come back here, nigga. And I was like, oh, okay. You were serious. Now I know. And then, you know, he's doing that smile where it's like the racist smile. And that's scary.

That's scarier than like the mean. Hold on. What? Bro. A cop? A cop says, come back here, nigga. You're going to pick this piece of gum up. And I'm baffled.

And this is in Staten Island. I'm 13. You also have the emotional intelligence of a 13-year-old here. Keep that in mind. And honestly, my family is... You don't mess around with my family. No, but they are nice. I've met them.

They're friendly people. Friendly people. But if you mess with us, it's your ass. You are very close. So what happened? I get a ticket. I say nothing else after that. I let him speak.

I say nothing. I mean, my parents always taught me, just like, listen, if you're ever coming into contact with the law, be polite, be coherent, be smart, and just say your piece and move on right and so i did that he wrote me a ticket and he was like and he said he said the word boy and i was like really bro we're not in west virginia right like we are in the city of new york we're in new york where every christ every house i lived on since birth has been a bus route. Come on now. What is this? And so he's, boy, you're going to pay this ticket, boy. I'm like, okay, I'll take it.

And of course I fight it. Didn't have to pay it. I brought my strong black women with me to the court. What'd they do? My mom, my aunt, and they were just not having it. I didn't have to say anything. My mom is a preacher. Yeah.

So she's got that strong presence. So she's got the strong presence. So she's got the strong presence. Every woman in my family, including my sister, will mother you to death. Go back to when you got home. I got home. Got a ticket. And you're sad? No.

I was just kind of angry because he used that word. Yeah. And I was like, there was no need for that. You're 13. You're not hurting anyone. I'm not hurting a single person. It was snowing outside. I had no clue where that piece of gum went.

Right. Yeah. So what did you tell your mom? I just said, hey, mom, I just spit up a piece. And she watches wrestling. So she knew. I was like, I did the Mr. Perfect thing. And she was like, oh, OK.

So you got a ticket for that. That's kind of funny. She was angry at first because she okay. So you got a ticket for that. It's kind of funny. She was angry at first because she was like, you shouldn't be doing that. And I'm like, I know, but it's cool. Yeah. Like if he would have given you the ticket without being racist, it would have been fine. I would have been fine. I would have been like, you know what? You're right. I did glitter. It's my fault.

I'll give you your $78. Oh, you remember the night. Oh, hell yeah. And this is $78 like 20 years ago, by the way. And that's a lot of money. 13 years old. My mom used to give me five bucks to last for the night. Oh, hell yeah. And this was $78 like 20 years ago, by the way. And that's a lot of money. 13 years old. My mom used to give me five bucks to last for the week. Exactly the same. I got 12 bucks.

What? So, yeah. Didn't have to pay the ticket. Okay, so then you said, well, you said the N word. Yeah, he did. I was like, Ma, he came out his face and said it. And she was like, oh, really? Did you get his badge number?

I said, no. Did you remember his name? His last name? Yes. Well, it's on the ticket too. It is on the ticket. So we fought it. And she was like, oh, really? Did you get his badge number? I said, no. Did you remember his name? His last name? Yes. Well, it's on the ticket too. It is on the ticket. So we fought it. Okay, so go to bat. Now go to the court. You have these three strong women. And we're like decked. So growing up,

growing up, growing up, I was in a suit every Sunday going to church. So like double-breasted, neck pin-t suit every Sunday. Oh, right. Going to church. So like double breasted, neck pin tie. Like it was, we walked in there suited out. I had a black pinstripe suit.

I'll never forget this. Black pinstripe suit, white shirt, black jet, black tie, 13 years old. My mom comes in with a woman's pants suit. Okay.

My mom is an executive at American Express. And so she's like a businesswoman straight up. And a preacher. We didn't have any representation. And a preacher? And a preacher. We had no representation. You didn't need one.

You had your mom. Yes, you did. So my mom and my aunt came with me. And they were like, Judge, this is absolutely ludicrous. My son is 13 years old, never had a problem. He's a scholar student.

And the judge was like, yes, ma'am. It wasn't about the money. It wasn't. It was about the principle. Yeah. Because you could afford, your parents could afford a $78 ticket. I could have. Yeah, exactly.

It wasn't that. It was the principle of racism. The principle of racism and don't mess with my kid. Yeah. Like he might not even fought the ticket if he just like was not racist about it. Yeah. I would have been like, you know what? I littered. You're right. And I am. Your mom is a bad bitch. Like, he might not even fought the ticket if he just, like, was not racist about it. Yeah, I would have been like, you know what?

I littered. You're right. Damn, your mom is a bad bitch. Yo, mom's your mom. Wonder Woman, Debra Thiel. I met her at Red Rocks one year. She's real deal. Did you, um,

was your, did you have a dad growing up? Yes. So your dad? My dad is another real motherfucker. Okay, so I want to, we'll talk about your dad, but I want to talk about your mom.

So you said she was an executive at American Express. She's about to retire. Three years from retirement. She's about to get it. 35 years at American Express. Let's go, queen. Let's go.

So she got, okay. Okay, so it seems like she was like a workaholic. She was working all the time for American Express and then being a preacher on the weekends? Oh, yeah. So, I mean, we grew up in a gospel church, gospel family. So at a young age, we all had pretty much jobs without payment in church. Right.

So at 17, I was head over the male chorus in my church. And I was pretty much- A drummer, probably. I was a drummer ever since birth. You were a drummer since birth. Since birth. Funny story. At the church? At the church. And I was pretty much... A drummer, probably. I was a drummer ever since birth. You were a drummer since birth. Since birth. Funny story. At the church?

At the church. My mom actually was a drummer first. My dad plays bass. We all sing. But my mom has a story where she's like... My dad was playing bass in the house and she was expecting me. And I was thumping to the beat in her stomach.

She knew then I was going to be a drummer. Shut the fuck up. Who was musically talented in your family? My mom, my dad. Sounds like everybody. Her mom, my dad's dad. Everyone got, I mean, growing up in gospel church, you kind of just, it kind of just on you.

Yeah. You know, you don't have to be musically talented. You could literally clap on two and four and you don't even know what that is. Right. So do you think the pockets genetic? Oh, definitely. Well,

also I think in those like types of churches, the way they teach music is a lot more better. It gets more ingrained in you. Cause like they start with your ears instead of your eyes. What do you mean? So basically, I mean, before you even know what a note is.

Oh, the Shoku, uh, Suzuki. No, it's different than that a little bit. Like I'm talking about like the way i okay so i started out in like middle school bands they teach you to read before they teach you to listen

which is not actually to me a very good way to teach music um it does help you like later in life with certain things but the way that people learn in church and i think this is true actually regardless of like what race the church is actually you know any kind of gospel music they start with your ears and they start with even just the cultural part of it, which is actually more important. And that's why you see so many prodigies coming out of that. I don't think it's because they're more gifted. I think it's because it's presented to them in a better way earlier.

It's different. And it's a part of the culture. I mean, like when you grow up in gospel music, you are under the influence of a spirituality that music is attached to. So like if I was listening to Flamencos yesterday and he was playing this 1991 sample from Mississippi Mass Choir and he put a house beat on it and I was on the rooftop shouting like I was in church.

No way. They got a light bill, too. Work it out. They got a lot there, too. They got a light bill, too. And he put a house beat on it. I was like, oh! That's sick. Yes! And I felt goosebumps, like I was in church.

So when you get that feeling and you're in that realm of spirituality and how the music connects, there is no charts. There is no notes. If your mom can cook, you're going to be a better cook. It's so crazy. But Corey Henry is like that too.

Nobody really knows this about Corey Henry, but his father, Corey and his mom, rest in peace, his mom really taught him from jump. But Corey Henry's dad, Jeffrey Leslie, was the bass player in Brooklyn in the 1980s. No shit. All his siblings. What do you mean? He was the bass player. He was the bass player in Brooklyn in the 1980s. Oh, I've heard of that. No shit. All his siblings. What do you mean?

He was the bass player. He was the bass player. If you knew anything about the gospel scene, Hezekiah Walker, Timothy Wright, all those dudes, mega churches in Brooklyn. Kirk Franklin vibes, Fred Hammond vibes. Those dudes called him to play bass on the records. And then he had a church. And all his kids, Jay White, another one, Prodigy.

Carlin, that's his son. So him and Corey Henry are brothers? Are brothers. Half brothers? Half brothers. Did you know about these kids growing up when you were a center? Every time I see Corey, he's like, how's your mom? So cool.

I saw him at least three or four or five times a month. Yeah, because you're like the same age probably, right? Yeah. His church was in Brooklyn. My church was in Staten Island. They would fellowship together. We'd have like a first service, second service. And I was so hyped to go to his church because the music was just killer.

Killer. Killer. Because like if Corey Henry's in the band, probably everybody else is just as good as Corey Henry. Oh, and he plays everything anyway, and they all play everything, so they could just switch. Oh, yeah, that's the other thing with church music. They make you get pretty good at a lot of things

instead of really good at one thing. So just in case someone needs to fill in. Exactly. I have five cousins that play drums. Wow. But it also makes you better. It does. If you can play drums play drums like i can play little drums it makes you better at saxophone absolutely but like you know that's totally true but as an employee they're technically employees yeah yeah the bass player is done they gotta have four other kids who know all the parts exactly but

the thing the thing is all you need to have is your ear at that point because you could i mean and church musicians, you could play anything in any key. If someone starts singing, you have no clue what key they're in. And if you can't, you can just hit that transpose button. Were you making money as a church drummer? Yeah. Every Sunday I got paid. How much?

Started out with like 150 bucks. And that was at like 14. That's good for 14. Dude, that's like a million dollars. Seriously, I was going. That's good for 14. Dude, that's like a million dollars. Seriously, I was going. That's two littering tickets. Litter all you want, big daddy. Yeah, I was like, oh, what?

Yeah, all right, cool. I just got one Sunday to get. But yeah, I was making some pretty good money at 14 years old being a drummer for a church. I mean, it was fun. I enjoyed it. And it made me want to play more. The funny thing is I didn't do it in school

until high school so what did you love about coming in on those weekends and like what was like what I mean it was such a big part of your life

what did you love about it it was more than just the weekend honestly because it was like a prayer and bible study on Wednesday night youth service on Friday we had choir rehearsal on Saturday Sunday was

all day. And my mom was like super attended of the Sunday school. So it was 10 a.m. Sunday school, 11 o'clock worship, which means 11 o'clock to whatever time we want to stop playing music and hear preaching. That service would go to probably like 3 o'clock.

We'd have a break for about two hours and have a second service. You weren't bored at all through all this shit? Come on. He's still a kid. You know he wants to go home. First of all,

my church was lit. We had PlayStation in the basement. Okay, all right, all right. Okay. He didn't want to go home. He didn't want to go home. That's what I'm saying.

It was like, it felt like summer camp. It was communal. Yeah. I had a lot of cousins and like kids my age that went to church and were involved like that.

So it was like looking forward to seeing them. I was like, can we go to church? I get to see my boy John, my boy Junior, his sister, blah, blah. It was a whole thing. When did it flip? When I realized that people were going to church as a religion instead of developing their own personal relationship with God. Talk about this. And this is what's been key for me. And honestly, the pandemic really, really taught me this, is that you can go into a building and fellowship with

people, but your lifestyle doesn't suggest that you love God. There's a place where you can say certain things or be a certain person, and you're not that, but you're going to a service on Sunday, and you're lifting your hands. It's like wearing a costume. Yeah. No, I told my mom this the other day. I was like, listen, if I never step foot in another church, my relationship with God is stronger now because I'm not doing that.

And what'd she say about that? She believed me. She was like, that's absolutely right. It's a daily walk. It's not something that you hear somebody from a preacher say, oh, you should do this when you're going to hell. You should love God. No, have your own personal experience.

And then from there, develop it. Can you learn from those experiences and take that into your path in music? Absolutely. I do it every day. experiences and take that into your path in music? Absolutely. I do it every day. I feel like being a vessel of love through music is what my calling to this life is. So what about those days when you're like, fuck, I want to quit? I don't really have them. No, not one. If you were as good as he is at drums, would you ever want to quit playing drums? That's true. Let's go, Isaac. It's so crazy.

You're right. And I wouldn't say that I don't have them. I think that even in those small moments, I'm so grateful to God to be able to just share and just be that vessel. Because honestly, playing drums, if I'm playing drums in front of 5,000 people or no one,

because my drum set is set up in my bedroom, I have the same kind of joy. Really? Same kind of joy. I wake up. I can see my drums. I call on my kids. My kids are right there. I just literally wake up like, oh, you know what?

I'm feeling this. I'll put on some headphones, start playing. I get the same kind of joy, same kind of adrenaline as I was playing Red Rocks. That's why I like drums. When you practice saxophone, it doesn't work like that. I don't know, bro. I wish I played sax. It can be cathartic. It can be a cathartic experience.

Whatever. Okay, so maybe the question is, is God just joy? God is love and joy. And I think that people confuse joy and happiness. Oh, I that people confuse joy and happiness. Oh, I couldn't agree with that more.

Let's talk about that. What's the difference? Happiness, I feel like, is sort of predicated on your situation. And joy is something that cannot be taken away from you. Wow. People can take your happiness. If somebody gave you a million dollars, you'd be happy as hell. I'll be happy.

But am I going to be joyful? Are you going to be joyful? Because that money is going to be gone. It's like healthy people get sick sometimes. You know. I'll be happy. But am I going to be joyful? Are you going to be joyful? Because that money is going to be gone. It's like healthy people get sick sometimes. You know what I mean? Yeah.

That's what happiness and sadness. But if you're healthy, that's being joy. That's the joy and the gratefulness and the thankfulness. That's the stuff that no one can take from you.

You know? So I always say, screw happiness. Happiness is situational. I'm trying to have that joy, man. It's also not always great. What about when you're lonely? You know what's funny?

I feel like some of my relationships have... Tell me, tell me, tell me. Give me the dirt. I like being by myself. Same. So much more than I actually like being with people. And I am a social butterfly. Same.

I love being quiet. Quiet time is like solitude. That's my jam. So lonely moments. Not good. I rarely have them because I enjoy my alone time. So when you do have lonely moments, does it beat you up very hard? Not at all.

I'm pretty even keel. I feel like I can do something. I had this... During the pandemic, I had this regimen of things that I would do all at my house starting at 11 a.m. to 8 p.m. Like what?

Oh my God, I could read it off. That's super smart. Read it, read it, read it. It was pretty regimented. Do you need a schedule? No, but I figured I'd have one since, you know. During the pandemic, man, you could spend two weeks doing nothing if you don't do something. I was going to say, who knew how long that was going to last?

And so like, okay, whatever. Let's just see. Right. So it started out 11 a.m. I usually wake up around 930, do whatever. 11 a.m., ginger tea and a massage. So I have a massage thing that i use no it's one of those things you put over your shoulder and it heats up oh it's amazing 12 p.m check emails talk

2 p.m workout 3 p.m catch up on shows binge watching 5 p.m video games 6 30 sunset drink and color so i would go on my. I would go on my porch and make a drink and watch the sunset and color in a coloring book because I love I just love coloring. It's just so much fun. With Isaac. This is the sweetest. This is the most romantic thing. This is not what I thought it was going to be.

I did not expect this at all. Work out. Read three books. Run around the block a hundred times. 7.30 dinner. 8.30 work on music in Ableton. And from there you could do whatever. out uh read three books uh run around the block a hundred times you know it's 7 30 dinner 8 30 work on music in ableton and from there you could do whatever yeah okay so so that's your schedule what if you don't get to that schedule do you beat yourself up not at all i'm just like you know what this is what the day is gonna bring yeah wow that's why it's like isaac that is cute as fuck you know what i kind of took offense you guys had a thing and you're talking about the sexiest men i know no you came up you came up you just weren't in the breakout but you were

we talked you came up okay maybe i need to watch yeah yeah but we oh you just talk about it as the promo i'm done break me out i want to be in the breakout you are hot that just makes me too young You're too young, though. We're thinking more of a Mount Rushmore. Too young, bro. Do you know how old I am? How old are you? I'm 37.

Yeah, you're still too young, I think, for the Mount Rushmores. You got to be in your 40s. Yeah, definitely. We're thinking old, accomplished men here. You're still on the come up. Damn, you're aging like fine wine. Amen. Have you seen his dad?

His dad's the handsomest man I've ever seen. Your dad's hot? Yeah, my dad is. His dad is a very good looking man. Pepper beard. Is your mom and dad still together? No, they've been divorced for like 20 years. Divorced gang.

So you're 19? Yeah, yeah, yeah. My dad left my mom a while back. And then he had another child and then split off. And then they tried to get back together. It didn't work out. But I'm happy that they're happier separate. Most people are.

They're miserable together. Totally. And do you think it's less, like as we get older and divorce happens, I think it's less personal where you think like, oh, it's you. It's my fault, yeah. I mean, I grew up, you know, whose parents didn't argue? Right. You know, so I mean, I've seen that.

And I was like, all right, whatever. People just argue. I mean, I've seen that and I was like, all right, whatever. People just... I saw my mom grab all my dad's clothes and just chuck them out. Never arguing is actually a really bad sign. Yeah, that's scary. If you never argue, it's bad. Do you always like each other? I'm afraid.

You should bicker like 10 minutes a day. Just a little bicker. You know what's huge for me in relationships? Conflict resolution. If you cannot resolve something and get back to an even playing field or common denominator, then that's scary. Is it hard to be vulnerable

with like, let's talk about your band a little bit. Is it hard to be vulnerable to put your opinion out there or has it always been easy for you? No, I've always been an expressive person. Oh, really? I had a feeling. I never picked up on that. I'm quick to say

what I feel, but I also try to have some tact and make sure that it's coming off the right way because I know I'm from New York and I can have that strong personality and all that. You ever beat the shit out of your bandmates no man i hit drums for a living i'm not trying to hit somebody that's the thing every drummer

yeah yeah definitely but it was in school i mean it was over a girl obviously this guy thought i was trying to push up on his girl and i was like first of all yes i am second of all she's not with you yeah and third of all i'm hot you're not fourth of all we're in eighth grade i don't think i was hot then honestly though you weren't hot no i i think i turned into that hot stuff like the hot mentality yeah probably like late 20s junior year of high school before that i was like i was shy puberty but still yeah yeah i was shy but i was still like outgoing. I was the kid that made everybody laugh in class.

Still got my work done and got a call from the teacher that night. And it's like, Hey, um, Mr. And Mrs. Teal, your son is great.

He does all his work, but he's a huge disruption. And so I'm, would you just talk to him? And my parents never talked to me. They were like, Oh, you want to be disruptive? Okay my parents never talked to me. They were like, oh, you want to be disruptive?

Bam! Okay. It's the 90s. We can send the kids. I have a really quick, scary story about that. So fifth grade. I love it, dude. I had to take this long for you to get on the fucking show.

You know, we're busy. Yeah. Fifth grade, I get a note written in my book. My parents always check my homework and check my books. I get a note written whole page long in red, how I was talking, disruptive. I ripped it out. My parents checked my books every night before I ripped it out. I get a call, call from my teacher.

Hey, Mr. and Mrs. Teal, just wanted to see if you guys got the note that was in Isaac's book after they checked my books. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So my dad was like, hey, so. So now you're in trouble for lying, too. Exactly. So did you get a note from your teacher? And I was like, yeah, no, I don't know what you're talking about. No, no.

Okay, cool. And they asked to see my book again. And sloppy Isaac, you know when you rip a page out you get a little bit of remnant that's the thing yeah you didn't do it you didn't do it i didn't take the scissor to it and so my dad was like what's this and i'm like oh start crying oh yeah i was afraid of my parents both of them they. They both heavy-handed, played instruments, played handball. That's how they met. So, I was scared. You saw calluses on their hands?

Oh, yeah. I mean, I know I have big hands. My mom has big hands and my dad plays bass. He could slap me with his slap thumb and I'd be like, ow. So, my dad was like, the next time you decide to want to be a disruption in your class, you may see me pop up at school.

Oh, no. Don't be surprised if I take down your pants in front of your class and I beat your tail. Those are his words. Beat your tail in front of your class and have you sit there and sit next to you for the whole class. Can you imagine if a parent did that now? They'd be in prison for life. For life. You can't do anything to your kids now.

You can't even say certain things to your kids. Did he actually do it? But, also the school system, they won't be calling your parents to see if they got the note. No, because they don't care these days. I was like, holy crap, your teacher's calling your parents? That's rare. The 90s people, they were a great time. Those doors

in the 90s in school had that little peak window. Yep, yep, the peak window. I was in class one day, and I see my dad's face. I go to turn around. I go to turn around to play and joke around. We used to have these little quick tests, like times table tests, and see how many you can get, Jolly Ranchers and all this stuff. I finished it.

I blasted through it. And I turned around. Before I could do the full turn, I saw my dad's face in that little box and all he did was this oh my god i'd be scared shitless dude i think i lost all fluids in my body what'd he do our father He didn't say anything. He didn't have to say anything. His eyes and his look said enough. Said like,

if you turn around, I will open this door and beat your ass in front of this class right now. After that, I was like, oh my god. Teacher's pet vibes. Yeah, pretty much. Quiet as a mouse. You think your teacher gave your dad some flowers?

I'm like, thank you so much. Probably. Because a lot of parents wouldn't do that. A lot of parents would get the call from the thing and say, all right, don't fucking do it again. Not like actually commit to, oh, we're going to change this type of personality. Yeah, i think my parents wanted us to be examples instead of being some statistic right there's so many kids that i went to school with that were just who knows what they're doing because their parents didn't care right right yeah you know and so my parents like first of all you're representing us and you're representing god and so therefore

if you do that i will beat your. That's just what it is. Here's the thing. You don't have to get your ass beat. Right. You don't have to. We're pro-choice. You can choose to get your ass beat or not. Choose. Make the decision. So yeah, from there on, I was just like, especially in that class, I was... You never got spanked or anything?

I got spanked once for the threesome I had. When you were like 17, you got spanked once for the threesome I had. When you were like 17, you got spanked for a threesome? I know. Well, it wasn't like a spank in the ass, but my mom slapped me. Like, you should have called. You should have called.

Hey, Mom, I'm about to have this thing called a threesome. I'll be home late. I was like a sex addict, though, in high school. Really? I didn't have sex until I was 20 years old. Mom, I'll be home late tonight. I'm going to be having a threesome in a Denny's parking lot. Oh, my God.

I'll bring you back some beggars. Yeah, I bleeped his ass, but I... That's wild. Me too, but times zero. You didn't have sex in high school? College. Pretty much right away in college. You weren't sexually deviant in high school? Man. I did everything but. You didn't finger bang at the church or College. Pretty much right away in college. You weren't sexually deviant in high school?

I did everything but. You didn't finger bang at the church or nothing? I definitely saw a city at school in a hallway. You didn't finger bang at church or nothing? He did say that. I did? No. You don't finger bang on the house of the Lord.

No, but you know. No, you can. You get tempted, definitely. There were some ushers in my church. I mean, there's definitely people that go to church to meet women. Absolutely. 100%. They want a person of God.

It's the same reason you go to the grocery store and you put on that little... In middle school, maybe 14, 13, I used to go to church the Wednesday when they used to have those days where all the kids would just hang out and just flirt with chicks. It's awesome. I'm not a Jewish. I used to go to church the Wednesday, you know, like when they used to have those days where all the kids would just hang out. Yeah. And just flirt with chicks.

Yeah, man. I mean. It's awesome. It is. I'm not against it. I didn't even believe in that. Hey. What are you guys doing?

You're putting cheese on your burgers? Yes. Kosher joke. Oh, my gosh. Okay. So I want to go back to the hotness. So do you think junior year, do you think fashion helped? I think that getting into like extracurricular activities helped

because my body was toned. I was like doing everything from leaders club, bowling team. Were you on the basketball team? I was on the basketball team my sophomore year and junior year i didn't do in senior year because there were so many senior things that i wanted to do so were you good enough i came off the bench i was actually the seventh man what my for varsity or gv both oh shit yeah my school was they were some ballers man and every it's funny because when you go to gym and you see these guys, you're like. So you're like a guard?

Yeah, I was two guard. I came off, I was like two dribble pull up. I'm from Indiana. You got to be like 6'4 to make the basketball team there. Really? I'm not 6'4. I know. I'm 5'9, 5'10 with shoes.

You know how Indiana high school basketball is. Is it something where it's like, you can't, if you want to get good at either being a musician or being an athlete, you got to pick one? Like, get to that 1%. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think so. Just time-wise. You got to think about your body, too.

Because, you know, I mean, I'm 37. There's no way I could play professional basketball. J. Cole's doing it. No, I don't. J. Cole. doing it. No, I don't. J. Cole. I don't believe that. You hit the hard, you hit the drums so hard.

I do, but that's a different velocity. That's like, I don't have to wear ankle braces or gloves. What's the difference of how your body reacts to drumming versus basketball?

Well, you're engaging a lot more different muscles in basketball, like jumping, just getting rebounds alone. You're just engaging so much core. drumming versus basketball well you're engaging a lot more different muscles in basketball like jumping just getting rebounds alone you're just engaging so much core you are engaging core but you're sitting yeah and you fall down like 15 times a game yeah yeah especially if you're like John Moran or Alan Iverson who taught you how to fucking hit those fucking drums that hard man honestly I grew up my mom played organ in church.

And so the Leslie, which is one of the loudest things you can ever hear, was literally right by my ear. Oh, shit. So I couldn't hear myself. I was just like, what? Okay, fine. I'll break this shit until they hear me. Were you taking your anger out on the drums? No, I was really, I'm a happy person.

And how did... This is blowing my mind. No anger. This man has no anger. And he hits the drums. There's other musical emotions besides anger. I know, but like... Oh, maybe I'm just...

It's true. You don't beat the shit out of your bass player? Not many. You didn't throw a gumball machine on your bass player? No, because he was my dad. He would look at me like... Andy did. Andy threw a gumball machine on your bass player? No, because he was my dad. He would look at me like... Andy threw a gumball machine on his bass player at Red Rocks last year. Wow, that's wild, man.

It's like not that... You guys have a crazy relationship, man. It's not that far off of... You would kill me. If you like pro wrestling, I mean, it's a pretty good... Oh, yeah. I mean, growing up, my cousins had that. Being in a band with me is not...

I don't do it... I know better to do to beats. Andy beats, Ernie, Sean. Sean would kill you. I need better to do to Beats, Andy Beats, Ernie, Sean. Sean would kill you. I need a heel. Oh, of course you do. Like any good wrestling team. Hey, man. So go back to this drum. So intention,

right? I always feel like even growing up, and I didn't even know this, that drummers are supposed to be driving the band you're only good your band is only as good as the drummer right bottom line right hundred my parents taught me that listen if we're older than you and we're teaching you how to do this but you're driving this bus yeah and so if you want that intention of listen i know how to direct where a song goes

the dynamic of what happens, and they need to follow that. Follow suit. You're not going to be, and it's so funny because in the industry that we're in, a lot of people follow the guitar player. We all know it's Gucci. Are you crazy?

Don't get me started. We're following the guitar player? The person who has the least to pack up yeah stop it the person who knows the least music theory does it go up or down here does it go up or down what's so yeah i even with my students and i'm like look what kind of drummer do you want to be close that so we don't get back like um that it's and that's such a great lesson for life it It's like learning how to control your own destiny. Absolutely.

Manifestation. I believe that you could really manifest some things if you just put the right kind of energy and discipline. That's huge. Discipline is huge. I read this quote that I think it says, a man who's not disciplined will fall for anything. And that's so true

if you're not if you're not taking the time first of all to harness your energy and make sure that it's protected then you're just going to be willy-nilly out there to the streets and you know what about do you what about manifestation of how fucking classy your style is stylish. That's another compliment to my parents. Did you manifest that? My parents manifested it for me. Like I said, we grew up dripped. I got baby pictures of me in a double-breasted suit before I could walk.

So it's my parents that did that. Let's go! Unfashionable family! Shout out to the Teals. What do you like about fashion? I love that it's an expression. You can literally show up and be seen in certain things and not have to say a single word.

Right. You love that. I love that. Because, I mean, what I really try to practice is silence. You don't have to say much. You could know everything in the room. Be quiet. Just let everybody else talk and see the befoolery.

While you're doing that, you're just fucking. And you just drift. And all they could say is, oh my God, you look so good. Like, thanks.

But what are you saying? Yeah. Well, it's like, are you making fun of me right now? No, it's gotta be, you know,

when you're, it's gotta be hard for you to practice silence when you drip so hard because everyone wants to talk to you. Cause like the first thing you're got to be, you know, when you're, it's got to be hard for you to practice silence when you drip so hard because everyone wants to talk to you. Cause like the first thing you're going to say is like, Hey man, that's a fucking dope outfit. Right. Right. And then how do you work that out?

Well, I sort of just try to flip it on them. Cause I really want to give people confidence, you know, even in the smallest dose. So if they're like, Oh, cool shoes, man. Yeah, cool. And I'll find something on them or just, you know, give them high appreciation. He said to me when I walked in, he's like, oh, cool shoes, man. Yeah, cool. And I'll find something on them or just give them high appreciation. He said to me when I walked in. He's like, I like your t-shirt. Dude, that t-shirt's killer though. Ernie Chang

got it for me. It's pretty sweet. Chang, yeah. Wow. This is amazing. When did you get dripped? When did you start getting dripped out? I would say when I started working at a sneaker store junior year of high school. Okay.

So what did you see? What was the first shoe you're like, oh my God. Oh man. There were so many like kids in my school. I mean, it's New York. So everybody was just like latest drop, latest drop, latest drop, especially basketball team. And you can actually get it there. Oh yeah.

So when I was working at the sneaker store, all my friends, that's when the popularity came. Because they're like, we're going to come and get your discount. And I'm like, no, you're not. No, I have a job to do. Yeah, I have a job to do. But then it was just like, all right, my whole check's going to the shoes now. Because now I need to keep up. I got this thing where Isaac works at this sneaker store, so you know he's got to come a little drippy.

And I was like, all right, fine, i'll lean into it it's fine my parents were like if you buy another pair of shoes yeah and i'm like it's only 10 i had to hide them because okay so the sneaker store i worked in was called training camp mega yellow bag they gave out these mega yellow bags for the shoe boxes i would come home with like three of them. And my parents would be like, there better be groceries in them. In your shoe bag? Yeah, no. No, this is...

That's one problem about society, I think, is we're making things too expensive and our role models are selling things to these kids that are way too expensive. Like Travis Scott shoes are $1,600. And like you said it's not cool if you're everyone has the new drop then you feel left out as a kid if you don't have money for the new drop and you feel like that that meme that spider-man meme oh yeah oh yeah you

you you you know what if you're not that in that group i i think that that's swaggy yeah same i actually think a lot of people that just buy like the most popular thing are a lot of times most boring people I've ever spoken to in my life. Facts. Same with all these influencers on social media. They can't have a correct sentence without saying the word like four times out of

context. Right, but they got that promo code on there. But you can see this booty though. Yeah. With that being said, thank you, Repsy.com and Dialed In Gummies for sponsoring this episode. You can see your booty, though. It is kind of... I don't know. I was fortunate enough

for if I wanted something, my parents would have got it for me. I also saw the kids who... He's from New York. You can't say that to him. That's different. L.A. rich kids are way different. Way different than New York rich kids.... He's from LA. He's from New York. You can't say that to him. That's different. LA rich kids are way different. Way different than New York rich kids. Really? Oh, yes.

Absolutely. All right. Then fuck my story. Tell me this. Give me this. Well, I mean, it's like... It's the weird surfer mentality. Also with, you know...

He gets it. In New York, it's like... You have to work for a living in New York. Yeah, it's a grind. So, okay, funny story. 1997, I was trying to get three straight A's to get these exact pair of shoes that I'm wearing right now to buy for myself.

In 97? In 97. Wow. And so I was like, Mom, I really want these Cherry 12s. Can you please get them for me? She was like, Yeah, you can get four A pluses on your tests,

and I'll get them. And I was like, Four? Can I give you two? What'd you say? You get the 11s. She was like, yeah, you can get four A pluses on your tests, and I'll get them. And I was like, four? Can I give you two? What'd you say? You get the 11. And she was like, absolutely not, four. And so I worked my butt off. I didn't go anywhere.

I studied. She didn't hear a peep from me for like three weeks. And at the time, I was going to a Catholic school for one year. And the outfit was, the colors were navy blue and yellow. Oh, yeah. And I was like oh gosh i cannot show up to school with a blue shoe or a yellow shoe right i gotta come different yeah white and red sure yeah that's the thing about catholic schools i went to catholic school forever

uniform except you can floss on the you could floss on the shoe and so everybody looks the same up top but if you got something that's super fresh and different on the bottom, it's like, oh, you that guy? So I imagine what you wear when you're not in school. And so the difference between L.A. and New York is New York is, first of all, we're walkers in New York. Yes. And so L.A., you're driving everywhere. You could put on some sandals and wear them joints all day. You get the sand foot.

New York is. Get the sand foot. You have to get up at four in the morning in New York to even get to work. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Oh, I might head to lunch. I'll get to my Tuesday brunch first. Then maybe I'll head to work for a couple hours. Yeah, yeah. New Yorkers

are like, they probably have the most tender foot because they never come out of shoes and socks. They're all in shape though. Yeah, because you're walking. You're getting 18,000 steps a day. That's one thing I do miss about living in New york and versus living here you don't walk near i've been doing that more i've been walking places lately it's nice yeah i've been scooting places scooting scoot well the the idea of new york is like there's the visually of walking is cool because you'll see all this new shit all the time you can step out your house and walk for days and never see the same

thing twice la is way too spread out. Yeah, that's way, like, what? Walking down Sunset Boulevard? Sure. The average person there works three hours a day. Did you know that? That's wild. That's considered a full-time job.

Shut the fuck up. That's wild. Okay, so I got, let's talk about this before we go talk about, we haven't even talked about music yet. No, we will. This is good, this is good. So it seems like you always wanted to stand out i think i had no choice why because i feel like even from a young child i was i had a lot of attention from people because you're a dope at

drugs not even that i just feel like i've been chosen yeah i don't know why i have a bubbly personality but i'm also like, I'll be reserved. I won't say a thing. But even as a kid, like I wrote this poem in kindergarten about my godmother, and then it got published downtown City Hall in Staten Island. So I feel like I've just been getting attention my whole life. Was that the first time you felt like this idea, not the pretentious idea of chosen, but like the idea of chosen?

Yeah, like from kindergarten? Yeah. How old are we? Five, six? Yeah, right. It was on a cardboard piece of paper, yellow. I wrote it in crayon, and then they framed it and put it in City Hall downtown.

I was like, that's kind of wild. With great power comes great responsibility. There's a couple things that don't make sense. How did the dudes from talk find you? Oh, you don't even listen to the jam music. You're like a fashionista. How the fuck did you get into the fucking jam scene?

Well, it's funny cause I met Charlie, the bass player while he was in college and through a friend of a friend, he was working, he was in school. I think his senior a friend he was working he was in school i think his senior project was like to put a production together so he configured his whole bedroom into a studio charlie charlie dolan and i put a drum set in his bedroom and we played some music and then ever since then it was kind of just like kicking it watching basketball we met at it

i met at his apartment from a friend of a friend he was like yo i got this guy who needs a drummer for his senior year project and i was like did you know he was like nick royalty dolan fanler no not even close no he's so good at like keeping him 10 times before i knew that you know charlie is a super humble dude i appreciate him for that honestly and even if he didn't have all the stuff he has, it's like he would still be the same guy. And that's why I appreciate him. Yeah. Look at the difference between Charlie Dolan and like Jeannie Buss.

Yeah. It's so weird to think that they are the same thing. They're the same thing. Same thing. That just dawned on me that they are and how different they are. That's so weird. But it goes back to that LA, New York mentality. Yeah, absolutely.

I want to be the star. Yeah, LA's like, I want to be the star. Yeah, LA is like, I want to be the star. New York's like, I'm chilling. He's like, I got the money. Charlie's the only one. Let's go. Yeah, New York.

Oh, God, being humble. Charlie, aka dad. He's got the two prettiest little girls ever. I know. I'm so happy for him. Yeah, man, me too. So you go to his apartment.

I go to his apartment. He shows you some music. Yeah, we play some music we start hanging out you know just smoking weed whatever kicking and watching basketball games we used to have epic nerf basketball in his apartment like three on three jumping over the couch trying to dunk it so we just kicked it they had a drummer and a singer they were already a band right they were already a band and i was like i had just finished. I just graduated the Drummers Collective in New York City. So I was actually teaching third and fourth graders rhythm and music

at the time where I met them. And do you know who Phish was yet? What? Who? No. You haven't even heard of him? No. No.

I'd never really truly. I mean, I listened to like the Beatles and Jimi Hendrix, but not much. To be fair, talk doesn't really sound like fish that much. No, but like those guys love fish. They love fish. Matt, Charlie. I didn't know that. Yeah, they grew up like going to the garden and seeing fish.

Like if they had a different drummer, would they sound more like fish? Probably. Definitely. Yeah, absolutely. We're thankful youish? Probably. Definitely. Yeah. Absolutely. We're thankful you're in the jam scene. Let's go, Isaac. They went to NYU.

Yeah. Well, Charlie went to NYU. AC went to Northeastern in Boston. And then Matt went to UVM in Vermont. Did AC like Phish? Matt? He went to Vermont and plays guitar. No, AC.

Oh. Yeah, AC. Did he know who they were? I think he did just because they all went to school in Long Island together. And so he knew who they were. But I mean, I think AC liked jazz more than anything. You could tell he's a jazzy guy. Yeah, he looks like a Neil Solkin vibe.

Yeah, definitely. So did it click right away or you're like kind of hesitant to join a band like this? I was a little hesitant. I was also bored in New York City of all the stuff that I was playing in. I was doing a lot of cool stuff, but I was just like, I don't have anything that's actually mine. I've just been sitting in and session gigs and do a little mini tour here

and there, but it wasn't my name and stuff. Originally, I was sending them drummers and singers to audition. I was like, yo, you guys should check this out. So they're your hovies. Yeah.

After a while, we started kicking it and just chilling, listening to music, playing, watching basketball. The New York music scene is so fun. And there's so many different ones. Yeah. So many different ones. It's cool how everybody's so close together. Yeah.

And we could just pop over. I'm like, I'm living in Brooklyn, Charlie's in Manhattan, and AC and Matt in Long Island. So you could just hop the train and come through. So where was the spot y'all practiced at? We practiced in Long Island because there was a studio house there that Charlie has. And we used to just go there as the rehearsal spot. So I would take a car or take a train out to Long Island and rehearse with those guys guys there times have changed now. It's upgraded. You got a studio. That is sick as fuck. Hey, man

Scott is blessing. He's in the bus. Oh my god Yeah, we got a studio in oyster place is fucking amazing. It's beautiful man It really does feel like home and you know when we have our producer Robert Carranza come out He's like a fifth member of the band, honestly. Is it harder? Yeah, and does all the mixing for 300 and Garly's and Galaxy and all that. Do you get more, when you guys, like, Toc owns a studio, is it harder to be creative when something's always there at your disposal

instead of like, we're going to pick this time to make the record. Well, no, I think we, I think it's, well,

we all write individually. And so when we're not at the studio and we're all in different places, we're still writing music. So when we actually have the allocated time to be there, we know what it's about, you know? So it's like, we're all bringing ideas.

And the thing is what I love about those guys is what it's about you know so it's like we're all bringing ideas and the thing is what i love about those guys is that it's it's so transparent in terms of how we write music there's no ego involved everybody brings a song it's like oh i don't really want to play that drum beat so i'm gonna play this and it's like oh actually that sounds a lot better or the guitar part is like i don't know if i want that and you know everybody's uh role is is there you know everybody's opinion matters and the music isn't the music until we all come to put together and it's got to be easier to have that philosophy in the songwriting prices process when you don't have a singer yeah I mean, usually guitar and keyboard carry the melody.

So what was it like? Have you announced that? Can I announce this? Yeah, sure. Why not? That Kanika Moore is going to be singing, joining the band.

Full time? Not full time. For a record. Just for a feature. We recorded a bunch of songs. Have you announced that yet? We haven't. This is the first time.

I mean, she's been on festivals with us but you know nobody knows that we're putting stuff out but a world exclusive yo we need you need like the the funk master kanika more and talk are putting out a record oh man when's that coming out we don't know i think we're just gonna drop singles nobody puts our records so what was the writing process with now having a singer who's a fucking bad at one of the best singers out there well we had these songs that didn't have any vocals to them and we recorded we recorded like 40 new songs over the pandemic and so we were just sitting on

this music and we were like you know what let's just see who wants to write and who has ideas so we're literally you know in the room in the live room playing some of the stuff out and she's sitting there in the studio with us and then she's like i'm gonna go upstairs and then she comes down with this whole masterpiece within like an hour so she writes lyrics too oh yeah she's amazing and i. And I mean, I, I love, I mean, I'm a singer too, but I love to write lyrics and do melody and all that stuff. So her and I are just like going back and forth on switching melodies and stuff like that. It's so much fun.

you're singing with her. Oh yeah. We have, I wrote a song specifically for both of us to do a duet on. Oh my God. This is going to be exciting. Is she going to do live shots with you guys and tour with you? Yeah,

she's done. She did, um, City Bisco with us. Oh cool. She did City Bisco with us. Oh, cool. She did. We played at the House of Blues in Boston, opening up for Pigeons.

Is it a different band now with a singer? No, it's still the same intensity. And she brings it. And you know how she is. She brings it. So the high energy that we already have, she's just matching it and just bringing the sex to it. I'm just like girl you better work i know you know what else is great about her i mean she's one of my close friends and like i was overhearing her talk about the music video and her ideas oh man she's just

got such a fucking brilliant brilliant mind vivid imagination too she's like Kanika is amazing she's great let's give it up give it up Kanika Moore if you don't know you know now oh you will wow

Isaac I could talk to you for hours but I need to I know you gotta boogie put my car you gotta boogie I'm putting bluetooth in my

old ass car yeah man so you can connect the phone and just be like sick thank you we gotta do this again right yeah we definitely should talk more basketball Old ass car. Yeah, man. So you can connect the phone and just be like. Sick. Thank you.

We got to do this again, right? Yeah, we definitely should. Talk more basketball, you know, the whole thing. You got any questions for Isaac? No, I don't actually. I think he answered everything. I do. I do.

I do. I got two more. Okay. Basketball related. And do you like living in Denver? I do. I enjoy it. The peace here is way nicer. Are we going to lose you again with this

new studio in New York? No, I can't move. I told my mom that if I move back to New York, I need to be in like another tax bracket or something because it's too expensive. It's too crazy to live there. That is cool that you've already done New York so you're like here. Oh yeah, I'm done. I'm good. Where else would you go?

I don't know if I would go to LA specifically. I would go somewhere in California or Atlanta. I want to go to Atlanta so bad. I want to move to Atlanta. It's a cool city. There's a lot going on there. Black people's paradise too. Black Hollywood. Yeah, exactly. So I'm fit. They got a great

music scene, great food, great fashion. I'm all about Atlanta. And good sports. They love Tyler Perry. Jesus, Nick. Oh my gosh, yes. He doesn't have a lot going on down there, to be fair. Oh my gosh.

Sports now. Sports. Now that you're bi-coastal, kind of. Who's your teams? You know what's funny? I actually don't really have teams I enjoy watching I love the Knicks I have to like but even before I knew

Charlie my family loved the Knicks we used to go to the games in 90s and all that stuff so I mean they forever break my heart but the Knicks and every New York team has some kind of heartbreak that just like yeah it doesn't really take a couple years of your life. You're always Nick.

Always Nick. I mean, I enjoy the Nets when they play well. God, isn't it crazy? Your bass player's dad owns the Nets. And that's like your favorite team. I know. It's kind of wild. It kind of makes sense, though.

Does he ever get you like... I love making fun. No. We just chill and go to the suite. That's so sick. Suite's better. Suite's better. Suite's better. Look at the food. The food is the best part. Oh, the Madison Club. No, we just chill and go to the suite. That's so sick. Suite's better. Suite's better. Suite's better.

Look at the food. The food is the best part. Oh, the Madison Club. Oh, my God. The Madison Club is the best. The food is the best. They have some of the greatest New York pretzels. Wow.

And sushi. Wow. It's amazing. New York, there's some... And the garden. Oh, yeah. The ceiling of the garden. I never saw them in the garden.

The wood. It is the most beautiful stadium in the country. The ceiling of the garden. The wood. It is the most beautiful stadium in the country. It really is. It's such a great place. And it's so legendary. Not even just for sports. Music.

Everything. Anything. It's just so legendary. You feel that energy when you're on 34th Street before you step into the garden. You feel that energy. Man, there is history here. Well, we're just skimming the fucking iceberg here. Yeah, we're skimming.

But I'd like to say I'm thankful for your mother. Oh, me too. Deborah Teal. I'm thankful for your dad. Yeah, Isaac Teal. His name is Isaac as well. I'm thankful for your teacher calling your dad. Oh, my God.

I'll never forget Mr. Cook. Mr. Cook. Shout out to Mr. Cook. Shout out, Mr. mr cook and i'm thankful that oh sorry uh and i'm just thankful you you're in our community it's a pleasure we do love you man i appreciate it i love you guys for you i'm always here for you and just you're just a good dude and like thanks man You are closer to my vibe than a lot of the scene because we love sports. Yeah. You know, we're in that basketball league. Yes, sir. Jack Brown's fucking obnoxious sometimes, but

you know, you don't have to say anything. I'll say it. He's not in that league. I'm not in the league. He was. I was. He's like, I'm out. I'm out. I gotta go. You guys talk too much shit. I'm not gonna talk. I'm gonna let my game talk for me. Let's'm not going to talk. I'm going to let my game talk for me. Let's go.

Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. What day do you play Peach? We're there on Sunday. I'm pretty sure we play at 3 p.m. Cool. Yeah.

You're big out there. Oh, man. We love it at Peach. It's such a good vibe. It's cooler. And you're getting poppin'. Man, it's just the East Coast is getting poppin' for you. The East Coast? I mean, we can never hate on it. It's such a good vibe And you're getting poppin' Man it's just The East Coast is getting poppin' for you

The East Coast I mean we can never hate on it It's just there for us You know Even the South They love talk What's the deal in the Midwest They don't fuck with you

I guess they do But you know I mean Umphreys fans Definitely have that Umphreys Oh yeah You got that Umphreys moment We definitely got that Umphreys moment We did two major tours with them

2015-16 so Yeah you opened the whole tour Like January to April You did the whole tour Yeah they opened They had like the same you opened the whole tour like january to april you did the whole tour yeah that's the first time we went out to the west coast and that was huge for us so shout out was that the first time you saw fans go into every single show uh no funny enough but what was the first time first time would say, well, I love funk music. Right. Not to the point where it's like that cheesy funk either.

So growing up, I was listening to like Victor Wooten and all that stuff. And I saw Victor Wooten play four shows in New York, in Manhattan. And I saw some of the same people there. I was just like, oh, so they're just going to continue. You saw this show last week. Right. Yeah. gonna come again okay fine cool i already watch movies all the time oh dude that's how i learned the talk music because i never really did any kind of like math rock or anything like that i would turn off the sound to my favorite movie and put talk music over it to learn it so when i had to remember changes i would remember

the scene in my head what any movie i do that shit some kind of shit like that or i'll like make a chart i'll make charts now i know why you never quit now i know why you never forced yourself make a chart to learn a tune i can see the chart in my mind later that day because you wrote it out man fuck both you i'm out. I'm at it. We're done. We're done. Yo, shout out to Andy Frasco, man.

You changing the world day by day by this podcast and it is affecting people positively. Thank you. Shout out to Isaac. I'm thankful for friends. I cannot go a day without Nick. A day. Nick's like little orphan Andy in the podcast. He's in,

but bring the spice spice I appreciate it One last question I'll leave you alone He's coming with us Thursday We're going to the parade Thursday Yeah let's go to the parade It's happening 10am Oh so during the day

Yeah it's 10am Have mimosas chill When it's all said and done Isaac is a Dust in the sand Universe What do you want you to be remembered by And what do you want Talk's music to be remembered by

I would love to be Remembered by just You know love honestly Showing love Being positive Spreading love That's really what it's about because the world is so dark man

it's so dark and if we could literally just be the light that's all people need so I'll just be love and light and talk music it needs to be you know remembered as just something epic the energy of it

the musicality is great and, and I love that part, but the energy is really what is going to be left over, I think. When people remember us, they're going to be like, those guys brought it every single night. Not one night was a night off. Yeah. God, you're my God. What?

You can't tell Isaac to kill yours. You can't say that to me, bro. My head's going to be. He has everything I want in a God. He's hot. He's fashionable. I'm nothing without the God that provides it for me. The first two things you want out of a God are outward appearance.

That's amazing. Isaac Thiel, thank you for being with us. You're welcome. You tuned in to the World's Heavy Podcast with Andy Fresco. Thank you for listening to this episode. Produced by Andy Fresco, Joe Angelo and Chris Lawrence. We need you to help us save the world and spread the word. Please subscribe, rate the show, give us those crazy stars.

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