Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 182: Dogs In A Pile (Sea.Hear.Now Festival Episode)

Episode Date: July 26, 2022

Summer ain't over yet, so keep drinking that water and listening to our Summer Music Festival Series as we focus on the Sea.Hear.Now Festival out of Asbury, NJ! Oh, and we got some juicy Nick & Andy u...pdates. Find out what these maniacs are up to before listening to rad band & good dudes: Dogs In A Pile! Keep it secret. Keep it safe. Keep it REAL. Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out Andy's new song, "Puff Break (Believe That)" on iTunes, Spotify  Check out the gem of Asbury, Dogs In A Pile Produced by Andy Frasco Joe Angelhow Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Brian Schwartz  Arno Bakker

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, it's Schwartz. Listen, it's time for you to start pushing your fall tour. We just announced. I need you to focus your posts on promoting what's really important to you. I understand that you're trying to motivate your fans on Mondays and you're preaching the good word and all that shit. But you're not Tony Robbins, okay? You're Andy Frasco. Please, promote your own date.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Spread the word. I'm concerned. There's a lot of bands out there this fall. There's a lot of competition. There's a lot of trouble with the economy. People are hurting. You know what I mean? Let's get some folks to our shows and show them a great time that way.
Starting point is 00:00:44 And, you know, yeah, you're not, again, who are you? Gandhi? Now, a message from the UN. One, two a dick. There's too much space between us, so I was forced to draw penis. If you can't draw a crowd, draw a dick. Pre-sale numbers looking pretty low. Pretty low. Hoping folks will join us for a show.
Starting point is 00:01:17 For a show. Added five names to the list. They did show up, not my single fist. Buckle up, baby, this is gonna blow. If you can't draw a crowd, draw a dick. If you can't draw a crowd, draw a dick. There are not too many in the crowd, everybody gets your sharpest out. If you can't draw a crowd, draw a dick. There's too much space between us so i was forced to draw a penis you can't draw a crowd let's go i'm gonna do it again and we're back
Starting point is 00:01:59 andy frasco's world-saving podcast i'm Andy Frasco. How's our heads? How's our minds? Are we staying out of trouble? Are we trying to blow off our weekend run? Trying to blow off. No, I want to play. You still have the COVID card, bro. You haven't used your COVID card yet.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I will never use the COVID card. Not even if you actually have COVID. No way. Oh, we're off to a great start. No, when people blame COVID for not being sick just because of low ticket sales is petty and bullshit. Some people get COVID, though. I'm not talking about those people.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Yeah, like Phil Lesch has COVID. I know. Of course. Red Rocks was sold out. Of course. It wasn't worth it. I'm talking about the younger bands. I'm not going to shout out names, but we know who you are.
Starting point is 00:02:46 People have been doing that? Yeah. You know for a fact people have been doing that? Yeah. I would have more respect if they were just like, ticket sales are too low. Yeah. They're canceled. It might inspire people to actually buy tickets more instead of buying food or whatever, gas
Starting point is 00:02:59 for their car. Yeah. Stupid stuff they don't even need. Well, it's expensive to tour right now, and if no one's selling tickets, then... Yeah selling tickets then yeah but it'd be cool if there's like sorry we can't afford to do these shows i'd rather hear that than we got sick i got sick daddy you know what i mean unless you're actually sick well yeah if you're actually sick i just don't want people to lie is i guess what i'm getting at well this is the entertainment business people lie to your face all the time it's literally what it is it's like mostly lying god. God, it's sad. I mean, if you think about it, the best actor in the world
Starting point is 00:03:25 is literally just the best liar on earth. Yeah, it's true. Like Christian Bale is an amazing liar. I always think about dating an actress or dating an actor. Terrible. You never know if they're real or not. They're not. They don't have real personalities. I can't remember how I was listening. You can't stereotype all actors.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Yes, you can. Why? I don't know. Fun for fun. Because it's a podcast? Because I want to. That's't stereotype all actors. Yes, you can. Why? I don't know. Fun for fun. Because it's a podcast? Because I want to. Yeah. Because that's what you do to make, you know what I mean? I'm sure there's like two or three actors that aren't complete psychopaths out there. Sure.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Yeah. You never wanted to like. Don't you remember the drama kids from high school? They were the weirdest weird kids. Even the drama kids say that about themselves. Did you ever just want it to. That's a cult right there. What is?
Starting point is 00:04:04 Like the drama club at school. Oh, the Thespians are a total cult. Yeah, exactly. That's the reason why I got out of LA because my friends are Thespians and they're kind of fake. Like I saw some funny meme where it's like the Oscars
Starting point is 00:04:14 are just like all the drama kids in your class having a little presentation for themselves. Like they do at the end of the school year. I can't remember. It was just some meme. Isn't that the Grammys too?
Starting point is 00:04:23 Yeah, it's all. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like the Grammys. The Grammys is my least favorite award show, I think. I know. It was just some meme. Isn't that the Grammys too? Yeah, it's all. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like the Grammys. The Grammys is my least favorite award show, I think. I know. It's kind of silly. It's weird because like best new artist will be like some 37-year-old man with 14 albums
Starting point is 00:04:33 out. You know what I mean? And like I don't understand the time frame for the awards either. Right. There's some stuff that's like two years old. I don't know. It's just. How about like just the award is whoever made the most money off their
Starting point is 00:04:45 album. That was the, you win. And that's the award. Like top gun won't be nominated for best picture this year, probably because like the Oscars are dumb and they don't like comedies or like action movies, but it probably is one of the best movies of this year.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I still haven't seen as a good, so well done. It's so well done. By the way, this is Nick Gerlach. They know who I am. I introduced you. Um, this is Nick Gerlach, our co-host. We haven't even introduced you. This is the See Here Now installment.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Sick. Where's that festival? Five episodes of See Here Now acts. That festival is in Asbury Park, New Jersey. No, sick. Oklahoma. Bruce Springsteen. Don't get me started on that guy.
Starting point is 00:05:20 And the first act we are putting on the show is actually a local band. I'm really proud of these guys these kids are like 23 they're called dogs in a pile and they live in asbury park so this is like a hometown show this is like their biggest hometown springsteen one guy did the other guys i don't speaking of actors they had a crazy story one guy's from long island keyboard player long island he's good I was watching some video. He knows how to play piano. He was like, I'm debating not going to secondary school.
Starting point is 00:05:51 And Billy Joel's team said, no, you're going to school and we're giving you a scholarship. And they gave him a scholarship to Berklee School of Music. How do you know them? What? Because he's from Long Island. Is that where Billy Joel's from? I don't know that much about Billy Joel's upbringing. Billy Joel had a foundation for the music school
Starting point is 00:06:10 that he was already going to. The art school. So he took all that money and got a music degree. Yeah. And it was happy because he met the band's dogs in a pile. Oh, they're all Berkeley kids? Berkeley kids.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Another Berkeley jam band coming down the pipe, everybody. Hey, be nice. I'm not making fun of them. It's just an objective fact. What's the deal with Berkeley hiring... Double pod. What's the deal with Berkeley always just having jam bands?
Starting point is 00:06:35 Because they're good at teaching people how to play like modern music instead of just like stuff from 400 years ago. Berkeley does do the best job of like the colleges for preparing you for like the actual music industry that exists right now. the jam scene just in general i think compared to like
Starting point is 00:06:49 going to iu or something no one ever graduates from berkeley yeah everyone's stuck with the sixty thousand dollars bill yeah i'm just saying their classes are more geared towards like what's going on right now don't want i'm not trying to talk shit about berkeley it just doesn't make sense it makes sense if you get a scholarship for sure I think it makes sense to find bandmates That you relate with to go on tour with That's the thing when you go to Berkeley You have a bigger pool of musicians
Starting point is 00:07:13 But why don't you just pretend like you go to school And just try to find musicians That's what you would have done I feel like It would work probably I feel like there's enough people there that you could pretend you go to Berkeley Just kind of like yeah I got class in half an hour. You know what I mean? Oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:07:27 What class are you in? Yours? And then you just go to Dunkin' Donuts or whatever. And you jam. That's all they're doing. Ripe 2 is from Berkeley. Who? Ripe.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Oh, yeah. I played with those guys. Turquoise. God, so many jam bands from Berkeley. I feel like there's more. Goose. Goose is from Berkeley. I think I already said them, but Goose.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Dope Fod, definitely all Berkeley. Lettuce. Most of Lettuce went to Berkeley. Who else? I mean, that's a lot. Yeah. No, I'm freezing. They couldn't afford it.
Starting point is 00:07:54 They went to Notre Dame instead. Come on. Don't throw those boys, those rich kids under the bus. Oh, well. Bayless, I think, went for free because his dad's the tennis coach. I don't think he went for free, but I think he had to pay a little bit. Well, it's a lot cheaper. He definitely wouldn't have got in if his dad wasn't the tennis coach. Oh, well, Bayless, I think, went for free because his dad's the tennis coach. I don't think he went for free, but I think he had to pay a little bit. Well, it's a lot cheaper. He definitely wouldn't have got in if his dad wasn't the tennis coach.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Oh, come on. Chill, chill. Wow, this is just a shit-talking fest today. I think Brandon would probably laugh at that joke harder than anyone, honestly. He's pretty self-aware. Also, he's a very smart guy. It's called a joke, Andy. This is a podcast.
Starting point is 00:08:22 So go to see here now. It's in September. It's going to be a blast. Green Day's playing. Stevie Nicks is playing. Ty Verdes a joke, Andy. This is a podcast. So go to see here now. It's in September. It's going to be a blast. Green Day's playing. Stevie Nicks is playing. Ty Verdes, who's awesome. Green Day, the first concert I ever saw without my parents was Green Day. And you've got to remember, when I was... What, Dookie? Yeah, like around there. I was like 14 or
Starting point is 00:08:38 13 or whatever. Sounds awesome. It was awesome. I went to the Indiana State Fairgrounds Pepsi Coliseum. Right. It was fun. Do you think Green Day would let Repsy.com book their tour? Yeah. I don't think they need an agent right now, but why not? Sign up for Repsy.com. If they're good at business, they would, and I assume they are.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Bans. I'm going to say this every week. I just announced the tour last week. By the way, thanks for buying tickets. It's fucking killing. Really? Yeah. Let's go. Here's my impression of Andy on the last podcast. Everything's dying killing. Really? Yeah. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Here's my impression of Andy on the last podcast. Everything's dying. My flower is wilting. No one will ever buy a ticket from me again.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I can't afford to go to Europe but we might have to cancel everything and now you're like, oh, everything's crushing again. It's because you promote
Starting point is 00:09:19 everybody else. I love you. You're the Burt Kreischer of the jam band. Man, did you see Burt's new promo for his show in Omaha?
Starting point is 00:09:26 Where it's in the pool? It just came out today. And then all of a sudden you skin back and then there's synchronized swimmer dancers behind him and he's in this pool. He's so good at promo. I feel like if he wasn't a comedian, he'd be the most in-demand marketing professional
Starting point is 00:09:41 in the entire world. Right. So thank you for buying tickets to the fall tour. Keep buying them. These are big rooms. We're not sold out yet. And we have a lot. People love it.
Starting point is 00:09:52 We have a long way to go. Are you going to do the same show every night or what's your plan? No. You got to come up with a plan. I know. But let me get through festival season. Yeah, but I'm not going to let you get through festival season. I know.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Because I'm going to be on your ass. I know. Like festival, you're just hitting off a tee now. You've done like 10 of them. You know what you're doing. Yeah, I know. not going to let you get through festival season because I'm going to be on your ass. I know. Like festival, you're just hitting off a T now. You've done like 10 of them. You know what you're doing. I got a game plan for festivals, but the fall tour is going to be good. That's why I'm making the new record so I can play new songs off the new record. True, true, true. You need some new covers, I feel like. Oh yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:10:16 You guys are good with that. Yeah. One cool thing with that is... With Little Stranger too, they love improvising, so we could do some things where we could improv songs. Do they sing or just rap? They sing, rap, and they and they're dope dude and people are jacked up the little strange on tour so that's good yeah it's cool like it's like you have like a real opening band that will sell some tickets yeah instead of me um you sold like five tickets a night i actually did have some people come out more than people indy was big i didn't play in indy with you so that's weird um
Starting point is 00:10:42 but i definitely had people no there's definitely people there or like they would come whatever it doesn't matter uh they're good are you mad that i'm not taking you on this fall tour no i did your whole last fall tour that'd be weird if you took the same opener again right but you know a little jealous no i wouldn't expect to ever do this that's weird i want you to i want you to understand that you feel bad or whatever maybe a little but you shouldn't that's dumb like no band has ever done that why would you just have the same guy open for you for like five years some people do that who michael menard takes you out all the time no i've opened for him like four times in my life probably you know who i used to see do that all the time this
Starting point is 00:11:19 band called brand new never heard oh have i heard of that little rock band from um like long island they have open manchester orchestra all the time i wonder why were they there's the same maybe the brand new. Never heard. Oh, have I heard of that? Little rock band from, um, like Long Island. They have open Manchester orchestra all the time. I wonder why were they, it was the same, maybe the same guys. Remember that bow? Manchester would always be touring with brand new.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Yeah. I used to love that. Yeah. It is fun to go on tour though. Well, you, you know, and essentially,
Starting point is 00:11:40 I mean, you're living with your, you want your friends on. No, no, I get it. I get that you want me around, but I also think it's not a very good business decision to have the same guy open for you all the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:49 So shout out to Little Stranger. Thanks for being on this tour. There's no jealousy here. Paul McDonald's on a couple of dates. Oh, cool. Yeah, he's cool. He likes things real high. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:00 And all this is because, shout out to Jon Bonjorno booking the tours, and also Repsy.com for just being there for us. They didn't book this tour. They could have. But they could have helped. They could have if you wanted them to. So sign up for Repsy.com if you're in a band. You have Jon Bonjorno, though. I mean, I got the goat.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I mean, I got the goat as the agent. What's on your hat? Is that a 49ers hat? What is that? Yeah, my hair. I'm not having a bad hair day. You need a haircut i need a haircut so bad will you cut my hair no why i would love for you to cut my hair i'd be so bad it's like i'd turn it into a bit and it'd be no think of like a do you have you cut your ferns in your backyard i've never cut i never
Starting point is 00:12:40 trimmed a plant in my life like edward scissorhands. All you got to do is think of that. Just like, I just need a perfect circle. A perfect circle like the band? Like the band. The other band that's not Tool? So sign up for Repsy.com. Woo! We're going to have a great one. Dogs in a Pile.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I got Nicholas Gerlach here. How'd they get that band name? I don't know, but it was really cool. That's the only thing I didn't ask them. Sounds like PETA's going to be mad at them. I asked them, because you know the champs seem so fickle. What do you mean by that? Just like,
Starting point is 00:13:06 they want every band to sound like fish. The same thing? Yeah. It's getting old. Or Grateful Dead. There was a time when the jam band scene
Starting point is 00:13:14 had a bunch of creative different bands. And then that's over. No, I'm just being objective. But these guys are really doing something different. Like when Desky Martin
Starting point is 00:13:23 and Wood used to be a lot bigger in the jam scene. Now they're, you know what I'm saying? Stuff like that. It's scary. Yeah. Now it's all just like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:32 It's good though, I guess. It's crazy because even Denver. That's why I like Dopapod. They're different. They said that's one of their biggest inspirations, Dopapod. It should be. Yeah. Isn't it amazing what makes timeless songs?
Starting point is 00:13:43 It's a great time to cover another band. Why? That's what's selling tickets right now. Tribute bands, cover bands, people like that. Why is that? I don't know. People just like stuff they've already heard, I guess, or know. It makes sense.
Starting point is 00:13:56 But does it make sense in the jam scene where they want to hear something different all the time? Well, that's because they're lying when they say that. It's like contradicting. Yeah, because they're lying when they say that. People like to pretend they want like, they want to hear all this new artsy cool new music, but then really they just want to hear like what they like already. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:11 That's fine, but just admit it. It's like the COVID thing. It's like the COVID. Don't lie about it. Just be like, I want to hear five white guys play an E and jam out. What the fuck is wrong with you today? Nothing.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I'm just being objective. Are you good? I'm actually in a great mood today. You are on fire. I'm just being objective. Okay. I'm not mad about it. Just be honest.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Really? I like a lot of those bands. Do you feel the same way about the EDM scene while we're at it? Oh, yeah. Let's go over the whole thing. The EDM scene might be even worse because it's so much easier to copy people because you can just sample. There's like 80 people trying to be pretty lights like this like
Starting point is 00:14:47 there's like the shitty version of pretty lights a thousand can you just please come back pretty lights so they go away he needs to market correct all these losers trying to be him right now God who hurt you today no one I'm in a great mood I'm just being objective here I like pretty lights
Starting point is 00:15:03 I'm just saying there's a lot of people just like... You need to eat a dialed-in gummy. Hell yeah. Have you? I'm not mad. Why do you think I'm mad? I don't know. I just feel like you're just shitting on everyone today. No. I'm just saying that there's a lot of people trying to be pretty lights right now. That's inarguable.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Except for Daily Bread. That guy rules. He's one of the new guys that's kind of doing the bassy hip-hop stuff that's actually hits. It's good stuff. You know what I mean, except for Daily Bread, that guy rules. He's like one of the new guys that's kind of doing like the bassy hip-hop stuff. It's actually, it hits. It's like good stuff. You know what I mean? But there's just a lot of people just kind of boom, boom. But isn't that just the trend of the music industry?
Starting point is 00:15:34 Yeah, it's not their fault. Everyone's just chasing the rabbit's tail what's tight. Yeah, same thing with cereal. Sure. Shoons or whatever. It's just a thing. It's just a human condition. Why are we like that as humans?
Starting point is 00:15:45 I don't know. NBA teams do it too. They model it. Everybody tried to be the Warriors. That didn't work. And then Big Men came back. Then they tried to be the Bucs. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:15:55 They're more reactive than they are creative. You know what is creative? Dialed in gummies. They are creative. Dialed in gummies. If you're in the Colorado area and you love a certain strand of weed, I guarantee you that Dialed In Is in collaboration with one of those
Starting point is 00:16:09 Types of weeds So go grab some Dialed In gummies They're great, they taste good They got 10 milligram ones I cut them in half because My tolerance is not good How can you drink so much but you can barely eat weed? Because it's
Starting point is 00:16:22 I don't know Because I'm an alcoholic Are you an alcoholic i i had this i had this epiphany when i was in charleston i couldn't epiphany amber season i was like drinking for like six days straight and then i had to go on tour for that weekend and i had and then i kept drinking i'm like i can't stop drinking right now what's the longest you've gone without drinking I don't know hours no like a month oh three weeks pretty good during the quarantine I didn't really drink really yeah I was working me neither I didn't drink at all there oh it's a lie I would drink a bottle of wine I think I won a year without having any alcohol during but not like a
Starting point is 00:16:59 marathon like Olympic drinking like I did in Charleston and this weekend what is it about Charleston just makes you get hammered? Well, I put it on myself, you know, I was like, everyone who wants to party, let's party. And then everyone hits me up and then I feel bad. That's why they live there, I feel like. Yeah. Once I have one, my brain gets foggy and I just want to have 15. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I can't have one drink. I don't really like having a drink and then doing something like working. Yeah, I did. I did try to have it. Like when I'm in Denver, I don't drink. I don't really like having a drink and then doing something like working. Yeah, I did. I did try to have it. Like when I'm in Denver, I don't drink. Like when I'm during the week. No, you don't drink that much. That's when you do drink.
Starting point is 00:17:33 It's annoying as hell. But when I do drink, I drink. Yeah. Shout out. Luckily, that fits in with the rest of your band. Not Ernie. Ernie's been staying home. Ernie's a little house cat right now.
Starting point is 00:17:45 He got married. He's wiped up. He doesn't do anything anymore. Oh, man. What are we going to do? Pee whipped, isn't he? Is Ernie pee whipped? I think he likes having someone always there for him.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Because I don't think he thinks we're always there for him. Arguably, you're not, since you're drunk off your ass the whole time. Not during the day. I'm not drinking during the day. No, you're sleeping and yelling at're drunk off your ass the whole time. Not during the day. I'm not drinking during the day. No, you're sleeping and yelling at your phone. I don't fucking sleep. I work all day. Bo, am I always working?
Starting point is 00:18:13 I never said you're not working. Nah, bitch. You're trying to belittle my work ethic. Oh, Andy doesn't like it. Andy doesn't like when people say he's not a hard worker. You can talk shit about everyone else. Yeah, not me, though. I'm perfect.
Starting point is 00:18:24 I'm mommy's special baby. Mama's special baby. Oh, man. I'm excited. People liked your parents when they came on here. Man, that was one of the biggest downloaded episodes. Really? Yeah. 45 downloads. 45 downloads.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Yeah, so shout out to my parents. They're getting mad love on the pod. They are. it's interesting to hear people's parents talk about them i guess yeah i'll tell you who's never coming on this podcast my parents why not no no i don't i don't even think your parents exist to be honest exactly i've never heard one word from them i've never seen them like one comment my dad listens to the podcast sometimes i think really he told me Do you have a good relationship with your parents? Yeah, I guess.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Do they beat you and shit? No. No? Like, emotionally? No. It's more of a business relationship. We're British, you know? You're my son, and I'm your father.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I'll do my thing, you do your thing, and if you need money, don't ask me, ask your mom. Yeah, basically. Yeah. Keep it light, you know? Oh, man. I did get the dirt about Iceland. Did you know how many siblings I have? No, you don't tell me anything, bro. I love that you just
Starting point is 00:19:33 hung out for two years. How many siblings do you think I have? Three. That's true. Really? Yep. Let's go. 2.5, technically. I had to look that up on Wikipedia. That's all it says. Nick Gerlach has three siblings. No other information about this man. That's it.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Wow, what a jam band episode. We are just letting the jam. Well, we have a jam band on, so. We can just talk jam bands. They're a bus band. I've been seeing the word dog for a while. They're getting popping. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I'm very happy. They can actually play, which is nice. Yeah, and they like to. Shut the fuck up. That's a compliment. I said they can play. All right, we got to be done. I'm sorry for saying they're good at playing.
Starting point is 00:20:10 This is the last episode. Getting canceled for saying that they're good at playing their instruments? Here's my inspiration for the week, guys. All right, come on. Stop copying everybody that's more famous than you. It doesn't work that way because you're just going to be
Starting point is 00:20:23 the shitty version of something else and no one's going to care about you and you're going to die way because you're just going to be the shitty version of something else and no one's going to care about you and you're going to die alone and you're not going to have money to retire. Okay, just you know what you should do when you write music. Don't listen to any other music for like three months and then write something. Yeah. Yeah, just stop it. It doesn't work that
Starting point is 00:20:38 way. Think of every band that's blown up. It's like something different and new, you know. Mm-hmm. Thanks for being on the show. The dark lord of the... All right, guys. Enjoy Dogs in the Pile. And we've got four more...
Starting point is 00:20:52 Big old pile of dogs. Big old pile of dogs. And we've got four more See Here Now episodes. What kind of dogs do you think they are? I don't know. But if... They're just... They look wild.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Their drummer is fucking 19. And they had, the drummer was in the band when he was like 17. That's cool. And like his parents are like, all right, are there siblings in the band or something? No,
Starting point is 00:21:13 just best friends. What is it? Four guys or five guys? Uh, five, the jam band. So it's either four or five. That's how it works.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Sometimes six. If they have a percussionist. Oh man, what am I going to do do with you keep mining this brain for all these thoughts because he didn't give us any motivation today yes i did i said stop copying everybody idiots have a great day be safe out there don't overthink anything if you want to copy other bands just go ahead who cares just get your money however you make your money honestly forget everything i said about that just do whatever you can to make your 300 bucks.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Yeah. Or six. I've seen a lot of cover bands get 300 per guy. Damn, who's paying 1,500 for a cover band? Oh, true. I don't know. I feel like... Whoever it is, hit me up.
Starting point is 00:22:00 I'll cover some fish. You get way more than 1,500 bucks a show, Andy. All right, true. All right, have show Andy Alright true I've seen your splits Alright next up on the interview hour From Asbury Park Another See Here Now installation And we got the local boys Who got on the festival
Starting point is 00:22:24 Dogs in a pile new jam band who's fuck they're blowing up man i'm i'm really proud of this band they're young they're hungry they're willing to do 200 plus shows and you gotta love that about a band um i got to get to know these guys i never i didn't know too much about them i was going into the interview blind besides my agent john bongiorno, books this band as well. He's like, you got to talk to these guys. So here I am talking to them, and I loved it. They are super creative,
Starting point is 00:22:53 and they just want to throw a curveball into the jam scene, and I'm for that, fo' sho'. All right, guys. Please welcome to the first installment of the See Here Now Festival, Asbury Park's own Dogs in a Pile. Dogs in a Pile. What the fuck is up? What is good, baby?
Starting point is 00:23:19 How you doing, Andy? Dudes, you guys came into the scene like a bat out of hell. I love it. Tell me a little bit about your band. Where are you guys from? What's going on? So we're basically, well, we based out of Jersey right now, Asbury Park. But these two guys, they're from New York, Long Island, and the rest of us are from Jersey.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Sick. How'd you guys start a band? Were you guys in college, high school together? What happened? Yeah, it's kind of a mix. The three guys that were from down here started playing together the year before most of us started college. And then me, Jeremy, Brian, and Sam over there all met up in Boston at Berkeley. And so Sam brought us down, and we eventually all started playing together.
Starting point is 00:24:10 That's fucking badass. What were you listening to? What made you want to play this type of music? Well, me and Jeremy first bonded over the Doobie Brothers and Steely Dan and Elton John. But I'm a die-hard Grateful Dead fan. So is everyone. Jeremy, probably the least so,
Starting point is 00:24:30 but his dad is a diehard Grateful Dead, Frank Zappa, and Phish fan. Yeah. And we all love playing the dead. We all love jam band music because it's so free and you can write so many kinds of songs. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty dope, man. I always think about this like when
Starting point is 00:24:45 you when like you're very grateful when a band's very grateful dead inspired how do you like get out of the stigma of you guys just sounding like fish you're sounding like grateful dead like do you guys have any tricks to get out of that world do you like try to not even think about that like give me some of what you're thinking about when you're in the songwriting session i i feel like honestly like checking out a lot of the newer jam bands um like we love we we fucking love dope pod they're they're like like one of our like collective favorites you know and like seeing going to peach and like all different festivals and seeing the more modern jam bands and stuff definitely helps like, you know, like alter that a little bit and go to different like electronic places and shit, you know?
Starting point is 00:25:31 I think the influences we had to begin with to definitely helped like, you know, Sam with this huge like Steely Dan influence and Jeremy and Joey with the Zappa. And then, you know, I'm into a lot of like, you know, Picking and Bluegrass and stuff like that. And Jimmy with the EDM, a lot of that kind of helps to diversify the fish influence a little bit I feel like. Yeah. Isn't it hard to get out of that, like when stereotypes, it's hard to get out of that stereotype when you guys are so talented in your own genres that when someone throws a stereotype on you it's just like what the fuck and you can't get rid of it it's like it's like an std or something you know so give me give me the original give me the original scoop so john
Starting point is 00:26:18 bongiorno your agent is my agent and he says you guys are hungry and you guys are ready to play 200 plus shows a year. Yeah, well, that's, I think we're at over 100 this year, right? Yeah. What makes you keep going? Like, through all the, you guys are getting, you guys are starting to get a wave and stuff, and to have you flip to another side, you know, it's doing 200 plus shows a year.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Do you guys like each other you guys best friends it's gonna be a lot of testing of personal personalities you know yeah I don't know this actually I was talking to them like this past weekend was really interesting for us we like really bonded on a different kind of level and you know it's weird because like you go through you know we started going on the road and like you get in a habit of stuff and then some different things happen like we had like a really shitty experience like at a certain place and for some reason like the shitty like the show was alright and
Starting point is 00:27:17 things are weird but like we got closer because of it like yeah it's weird you know in a crazy how like when you're it's like going's weird you know isn't it crazy how like um when you're it's like going to war you know especially in this economy you're like you know there's going to be some shitty shows there's going to be some great shows and through it all like the bonding of the brotherhood grows and i guess you could probably feel it in your music have you guys written new music since you've gone through the tour yeah definitely actually these guys are right in the back of the van the other the other i love it finished two songs on the way to new new hampshire what are like i was like dude i really want to uh do mushrooms and write music like all night and i've never really done that like i've done mushrooms a lot but i never
Starting point is 00:28:18 i just was usually at a concert or having fun or something but not that writing music is fun i started writing keep going but so i started writing this song called uh called apple seed and it was like i'm not the piano player but it's like i'll play the first little part of it but it was like last night it came to me trapped in my head like an apple seed. So that's kind of the gist of it. And it's kind of like the other parts like I spent last night out with my friends getting stormed out on. So it's like it's kind of just about like being stressed
Starting point is 00:28:58 and like, you know, like being OK with it and everything's going to be OK, which like I've written a lot of songs in that vein. And so it's really special I think me and Brian are excited because it's like really mature lyrics I think and like there's like you know it you'd like you know you don't feel that way about every song so it was really it was special to feel that and then the other one is kind of just a more like jam bandy fun song. It starts like, my belly is full of warm beer. How important is freedom for your band? Like of the utmost importance in my opinion. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Because like you guys are a great jam band and you guys sing fucking fantastic this is why i think you know you're having a wave and to write songs that you could go from one genre to the next or having these you could write these existential crisis songs and then you could also write a song about just you know having a full stomach is is pretty pretty magical you know so tell me let's talk about a little bit when you're when you're going through these existential crises do you guys you guys deal with a lot of like anxiety mental health issues throughout your life or were you kind of that never really affected you so almost at one time or another you know what was it
Starting point is 00:30:23 what was triggering it you think triggering it? You think? Dude, it's actually funny you say that cuz I had like my first panic attack in my life last week and it was fucking ridiculous I thought I was dying cuz I didn't know what the fuck they felt like. Where were you explain the situation? Dude, it was weird I mean I was like I was like Partying a little bit throughout like the night and we were just hanging and then like i smoked weed like normally and i was like laying in bed and all of a sudden i felt like i was like tripping my balls off but like i'm like a new drug and then my legs started vibrating and i felt like i was pulsating it was like and i don't know i think it was because like you know like you were saying like touring and like we we go on these weekends you what you get it like we do like three nights and then come home and barely get settled for two days you know like oh where
Starting point is 00:31:09 am i now okay we're still moving i thought i think that's what that's what it was honestly how old are you guys 23 to 24. holy well our drummer is 19 and i'm the oldest I'm 24 hold on backtrack back check your babies dog okay so how do you get your how do you get your 19 year old drummer into clubs it's looks old he like is really jacked and he looks like a Greek God kind of. So he doesn't drink. Yeah. He doesn't drink also. So they don't worry about him. Does he take like L or any of that stuff or what?
Starting point is 00:31:54 What's his. Yeah. Yeah. He likes it. Yeah. He was the other day. He likes weed a lot too. What's that?
Starting point is 00:32:02 Fan of weed out of the five of us. Maybe Jimmy or maybe me. i don't know yeah going back to those panic attacks it's got to be tough when you first don't know what it is you feel like you're being drugged right straight up and then did you feel like you're just burning the candle at both ends and then your body just couldn't react to it and that's what you felt like you felt like this suffocation probably it's weird because actually since then like the next day and the day after i felt like i was looking at like i felt like i was actually going through like a little like spot of like anxiety like in my life because now after that happened, I feel like I did a little while ago,
Starting point is 00:32:45 like full on happiness, just like relaxed, not giving a shit, just like, and I didn't feel like that way for the past couple of months. And I don't know, I feel like that needed to happen. It was weird. Yeah. You know, it's like, I, you know, Pank Tacs are like a blessing and a curse because it realizes your, it shows your brain that you aren't invincible and you can't just throw drugs and alcohol
Starting point is 00:33:10 and no sleep into your body for fucking seven days straight, you know? And it's important for your growing. So like, tell me a little bit more about this song you wrote because it feels like this is, it's about mental health and it's about, you know, going through burning the candle at both ends. Give me a little more about that song you wrote because it feels like this is it's about mental health and it's about you know going through burning the candle at both ends give me a little more about that song you just wrote um you want me to play like the first verse for you yeah you sound great on it i love that you
Starting point is 00:33:34 have the keyboard this is great this is like story time it's like vh1 behind the story i like i pretty much like to carry this keyboard around, especially lately. Let's hear it. It's battery-powered, too, so that's why I was able to do it in the van for hours. It's so sick. Wait, what? I was just saying that your battery's in there,
Starting point is 00:33:57 so you could... I love it. It takes six batteries. I love it. It takes six batteries. I learned all my piano skills just from watching Jeremy because he's amazing. I love it. Ready?
Starting point is 00:34:20 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Also, it has like it. So this is the intro. It's like it's like it has like the chinese kind of intro but um but anyway and then it goes and then it's like it like imagine like a disco biscuits vibe four on the floor with like ticka ticka ticka ticka on the uh yeah on the high but anyway so last night it came to me trapped in my head like an apple seed and as i laid in bed i thought about things that i now regret I spent last night out with my friends getting stoned now they're gone can someone please tell me if it's time for me to move on
Starting point is 00:35:15 and this I ask of you in no uncertain terms yes I swear it's true and what i'm trying to say takes too long to explain we'll get there someday well it feels like the end though it's yet to begin and we're gone the timing is off and the clock on the wall is reading wrong. Then this is the chorus. Well, the open road is fuck. The open road is all I've ever known. It's been too long. Now it's time I soothe my soul. It takes the heart of an empire rid of gems Don't let William tell you it's not blue from a stem Cause we're one of them
Starting point is 00:36:18 And that kind of goes like Wow Boys Boys, by the way, let's fucking go I love it I fucking love it You know what i like about it it's honest you know it seems from just hearing that i could tell that you guys have been doing this for a while and what what have you learned from the road that made you grow into the people you are now sleep sleep you said yeah into the people you are now? Sleep.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Sleep, you said? Yeah. What I'm saying is, what have you learned from the road that's made you grow more than someone who might have just spent their adolescence in college? Well, learning to live every single day with the same four other people you know that can definitely teach you a lot of lessons of like tolerance and and uh just you know learning to love
Starting point is 00:37:14 each other and get through certain little humps and stuff like that and obstacles and um also just learning to i don't know yeah i did't know that I maybe it's kind of obvious but I what I've really learned is like that the fact that we're able to do this thing and make a living off of it I mean that's just that's the best thing to learn because if you learn that and you have gratitude for all of it and you know you see other people doing things that maybe they don't love what they're doing. And then you're like, wow, we get to fucking play our shit all night. And that's it, you know? Yeah. And it makes you realize how short life is and why not do what you want to do all
Starting point is 00:38:00 the time, you know? Yeah. It's beautiful. God, the American american dream right here these boys are out here on the road just skull the whole country and i love it um so give me a little bit more about how the band started and talk to me about i want to this is a two-part question what's the hardest thing you had to deal with together as a band? And then let's talk about the beginning years of the band. Well, I think it's interesting how Sam and I both first met in Boston. I ended up accidentally ending up at this party this guy invited me in Boston. It was the start start of second semester
Starting point is 00:38:49 My roommate was a rapper. So he was having a freestyle rap party And I yeah, I didn't really want to be now I like freestyle rapping back then I Ended up I ended up at this party and you know, I mean Sam was nowhere to be found I didn't know at the time but it happened to be his apartment and I'm like it was I wasn't getting the vibe of the party or whatever i was just kind of sitting there having a beer or whatever and then out of nowhere i see this like this room with like this light coming out of it and i heard like very softly i heard like you know the dead i heard like jerry's guitar or whatever coming out that door and so i opened it just quickly it was like no it was like like it was like who are you and there's Sam with like you know he's like
Starting point is 00:39:28 got his girlfriend next to him and he's just like jamming out to the dead on space I could have been in the middle of doing something inappropriate Jerry licks I'm Sam I was like i'm brian and then we just hit it off immediately and started talking about how we wanted to start a band and how we both loved the dead and how i like fish and sam looks fish a little bit and uh you know and then yeah we just started talking about like how we want to write songs and do all this stuff and then he's like come over tomorrow and then I came over the next day and I didn't stop coming over every single day for like two weeks after that oh was this at Berkeley yeah yeah did you guys not graduate too I am
Starting point is 00:40:16 glad I didn't graduate I don't really care I'm good damn you graduated. Yeah. Let's fucking go. One of three people who graduated from college. That's great, man. So what, so you had these collection of songs I heard in Berkeley, like you could like join a band for credit. Is that true? Jeremy has a little story about how he got to Berkeley that he doesn't really like talking about. Tell us, Jeremy.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Well, I got a scholarship from this cool guy named Billy Joel. What? Like the Billy Joel. What? Like the Billy Joel? Yeah. Oh my God. Keep going. I mean,
Starting point is 00:41:11 that's, that's the crux of the biscuit there. Anyway. Um, I just, I went, I went, you know, I'm from Long Island originally.
Starting point is 00:41:17 So I went to this arts high school and, that place was awesome, but it was also severely, severely underfunded. And so his foundation donated a bunch of money to that arts high school to like make sure it didn't close down. And when I was finally, you know, getting to around the time where I was going to go to college and applying or whatever, somehow through the school, you know, somebody there got in touch with his team and kind of made a scholarship happen. Because I originally wasn't going to go to school at all no um i was because i was already working you know i was doing a lot of musical theater gigs um just like music directing around around the island and wherever
Starting point is 00:41:54 and i was playing in big bands and bar bands whatever the fuck so i wasn't really going to go to school but you know somebody at the school knew that i was gonna as i at my high school knew that i was you know probably gonna to bail on the secondary education. So they kind of pushed through, got in touch with his team, and hooked me up with a scholarship to ensure that I went. So, I mean, it's safe to say that this band would not exist had Billy Joel not been my sugar daddy. So you get convinced to go to Berklee.
Starting point is 00:42:24 How did you meet the other two? What happened? Brian accosted me outside of one of the Berkeley buildings. What happened? I was about to head to a gig somewhere in Massachusetts. And I was sitting in front of the Berkeley building. And I had a keyboard with me. And I was waiting for an Uber or something.
Starting point is 00:42:43 And he just walks up to me. And he's like, I wasn't really that into the dead, you know, at the time, especially, but he's convinced that I had some sort of dead paraphernalia on me, a sticker. I definitely did it. It was like a pin on. That's bullshit.
Starting point is 00:42:57 There's no way. He had a pin on bro. We got to get him in the band. I didn't even know Casey Jones at the time, okay? Me and Brian were working with a drummer and trying to audition a keyboard player. And we had one guy. We had so many weird-ass keyboard players.
Starting point is 00:43:18 We had one guy come and he over-slapped and he was like, oh, sorry, I'm so late. He just didn't give a fuck. We were like, oh, God, this is like this was going to be like trying to find someone that wants to, you know, it's so fucking funny. This is so okay. So now you have three guys in the band.
Starting point is 00:43:35 How's this? Who's next? Who would you see next? Well, that was kind of the band up in Boston. We actually we had our own project called. It was called Scotch Bonnet for a minute and then it kind of became uh otherwise useless children which is now the uh the dogs napal sister project i love it yeah so we had that band up in boston and then sam initially brought me down to jam with uh you know the guys down here j Jimmy and Joey, they actually had,
Starting point is 00:44:05 there was another guitar player in the band at the time. So that's why Brian didn't come down immediately. So what type of success were you having in Boston that made you guys realize, hey, we should take this thing seriously? We weren't really having success at all. Like, us three had almost no, no one really liked the jam bands
Starting point is 00:44:26 in boston it was very hard yeah we had like two fans yeah actually we had one awesome friend in uh salem massachusetts she kept telling us about the uh the operator uh she was kind of this weird cult trip down and she was trying i'm pretty sure she was trying to get us to join this cult. What type of cult was it? I don't know. She was just like, there's this guy called the Operator and he was like, looking out for us, you know? Hold on, hold on. How did, did you meet the Operator?
Starting point is 00:45:01 No, we met this crazy lady who loves him though. Did you meet the operator? No, we met this crazy lady who loves him though. Salem is like known to be like a spooky town where like all the witch trials happened back in 1600s and stuff. And so we were playing a gig there. Everything was really dark and spooky in that town. And then we were in this abandoned mall that was just open. Yeah, that was really weird.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And then yeah, this girl comes up, she's like, did anyone around here tell you to like get into Christianity all weird? Like these people on the corner that like are trying to force me to become a christian i personally am part of like the operator or something like that and so that was weird that ended up being the word show oh my god big she loved it dude yeah but to answer your question like if we had success in boston we really we really didn't but like what kept us going and like we just our love for like writing songs together. Like we kind of knew that we like had something going that was like just so much fun that we couldn't stop doing, you know. So cool. What was the first song where you felt like, damn, this is a fucking real song? I guess the song Look Johnny
Starting point is 00:46:04 that Sam and I came up with and that we all arranged together was like a cool first one to be like oh damn and then Jeremy wrote this one called Chocolate Milk which is like this sick fusion instrumental that we should be playing but we don't
Starting point is 00:46:21 really play anymore and that was like super zappa and super cool and so we just like yeah the first chord is very cool what's the first chord play it for us samuel yeah i remember the feeling last night oh yeah it was very nice of you. I don't remember the other lyrics. Guys, you guys are a brotherhood. Isn't it crazy how rock and roll comes to you?
Starting point is 00:46:53 You're not looking for rock and roll. You're talking about cults finding you. You're talking about Billy Joel making this thing happen so you guys could have rock and roll. Do you believe in the universe? Giving you gifts and it's it's our up. It's our job to be present enough to take them Yeah, definitely. That's that's funny. You say it like that because when I talk to people about writing songs now
Starting point is 00:47:18 I'm like dude You didn't write that fucking brilliant song like that song existed up there and you just let yourself open up so that can flow out of you and it's it's the same goes as touring man when you start like resisting the touring then you're not gonna nothing you're you're always gonna be fucking miserable you just gotta like be like the wind when you're touring, you know? Dude, I want to, I forget what venue it was, but your poster of the tour rules, like the 30, dude. And I was, oh, was it Ohio? That's like, that was the most,
Starting point is 00:47:56 I read it like 10 times. Wow, that's the greatest advice fucking ever, dude. A lot of people aren't going to get the road besides the people who want to live get the road besides the people who who who want to live on the road you know and like you're never going to relate with anyone who doesn't live on the road so like maybe that's where you got your panic attacks you have friends who don't live on the road and you're trying to explain it to them and you seem like a fucking crazy person and like you don't want to talk to your brand for two days. Cause you already been with them for fucking 10 days.
Starting point is 00:48:26 So you're alone with your thoughts and really the whole band is dealing with the same fucking panic attack. Family too. Yeah. Yeah. How hard. Say that again. Sorry. I interrupted you. I was going to say, it's always so weird to come home to like family, not just like, you know, my mom and dad and brother or whatever, but like my, like my like like greater family like my aunts and uncles they're just like oh how's your like little band kind of thing you know what I mean I'm and like you know i've i have a lot of friends i grew up with that just went to normal college and like you know they don't even understand i'm like no dude we weren't going to frat parties and shit like you we were like we were uh hanging out and drinking beer and writing songs and smoking weed and then we would go to house and then we would
Starting point is 00:49:20 go to like house parties and that's that was the party and then we would go to like our local bar and and play music there for fun but like you know for example i have i have one friend and he's like kind of just like he's like he loves like he loves working the nine to five it's like honestly bad it's like it's kind of weird but he like is very condescending to me and he's like yeah like maybe the band won't work out like you know what are, what are you going to do then? I'm like, dude, what the fuck? Like, no. Yeah. People have backup plans end up just doing their fucking backup plan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:53 And fuck those people. Don't let those guys ruin fucking dogs in the pile mojo of the open vessel syndrome. You know, we need you boys on an open vessel syndrome all the fucking time. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Tell those guys to suck your dick from the back. Seriously. Cause we don't need that energy in the dogs in the pile brain. Okay. Good dream. Just playing live. Or do you guys want to write, do you want to write a hit or do you want to write a record that makes the world go around? Like what is your philosophy for Dogs in the Pile?
Starting point is 00:50:25 I don't know. Personally, I just because I've been a Grateful Dead fan my whole life, I think the music that we write, like it's starting to get it gets more interesting every every like week, you know, because like new experiences, things are changing, we're getting older and shit. But I really hope that we can write some songs that are timeless and wholesome and just not for the time or anything, literally can relate and just mean something greater and do what the Grateful Dead did. They wrote all their songs live on and they will live on forever
Starting point is 00:51:05 because of their meanings and the energy behind them. So I don't know. I hope we could do that and make people feel fucking good. You know, beautiful, dude. Beautiful. You know what else is beautiful? You guys playing see here now hometown show. Biggest show. This got to be a fucking, you know, pat on the back.
Starting point is 00:51:23 When you found out when John told you, hey, boys, you're playing the biggest local show you've ever played in your life. How did that make you feel, guys? Seriously, it's a really proud accomplishment for being such a young band. It feels pretty sick. Yeah, we were pretty fucking excited because our manager, Ross, I was like, Ross, do you think we're going to be able to go and see her now this year? He's like, dude,
Starting point is 00:51:46 I don't think so. That's a long shot. And then like a month later, Ross was like, oh, we're on see her now. I was like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Yeah. Do you remember, give me some memories of Asbury Park. See here now when you're a kid, did you guys used to go to the festival? Well, it's new, right?
Starting point is 00:52:03 Yeah. See here now, this is only the fourth year, but there was a big one called Bamboozle that was more like they had, me and Jimmy went, I went in 2012. Oh, dude, that was my shit. All the pop punk bands and shit. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:14 So we saw like- Fucking Skrillex. Stinkiness, Mac Miller, all the best music when you're like 12 years old. My Chemical Romance, one of my favorite bands at the time. Yeah. You know? I fucking. And then there was White Chapel. You guys know them? I used to...
Starting point is 00:52:31 White Chapel? No, I don't. No, I don't know. It's just on the side stage. It's like one of the fucking heaviest hard death metal bands I've ever heard in my life. Go listen to them. It's like that shit. They take that shit up there. It's so crazy asbury like i used to work for this
Starting point is 00:52:48 record label called drive-through records and they had like newfound glory hidden in plain view there's a couple new jersey bands um i forgot oh like starting line remember those guys early november anyway you're too young for that but bamboozle was kind of like what the Warped Tour was. Did you guys ever do the Warped Tour? No, I had a lot of friends who liked that. Yeah. What were you listening to when you were 12, 13, 14? I loved pop punk and the Foo Fighters.
Starting point is 00:53:24 It's pretty wild. And look at you now. Now you're opening for fucking Green Day. Isn't it pretty wild, boys? Do you ever take a step back and realize, damn, this is really fucking awesome? Or are you just too focused on tomorrow? It's like learning how to balance both of those things, I feel like. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Yeah, because if you get too excited about every show, then you're just constantly too excited, and you can't live your life just being too excited all the time, I don't think. You sound like your dad there. That was your dad talking right there, dog. Hey boy, don't get too excited. Life sucks. This is just a moment where you're going to be happy, but after this show life's going to suck. No, I love it guys.
Starting point is 00:54:17 I didn't mean it in a dark way like that, but it's just like, if like, you know, like it's like every week we get something that seems more excited, you know, like jam cruise. We're so excited about that yeah you know some other stuff that we I don't think we could talk about yet like that we're really sad it's just like I don't know it's you got it I just feel like took for me for me to like feel like I'm like healthy mentally I I don't want to you know I want to think of like the month ahead and like I think make that plan and I don't want to think too far ahead because it just makes you go a little crazy. Yeah, it's true, man. And like music, that's why we play music is to stay present, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Boys, this is exciting. I get to know you in the beginning of your careers. You guys are going to get so big. This guy's just drinking Coca-Cola with his shirt off. I'm about this life, boys. Keep writing music. Be whoever the fuck you want to be. Don't put yourself in a box because you guys,
Starting point is 00:55:19 I can tell you guys are bigger than a box. So promise me throughout all the managers and the booking agents and all the record labels, always be yourself. Okay, boys? Yeah. Andy, I want to say one little funny thing. I think we're all pretty – we don't really like music that's not true to the heart. It has to be true to – it can't be about something that's not about the music and about bringing people together. But also, my goal is,
Starting point is 00:55:53 I want to continue to, I think we all do, just push the limits, see what we can get away with. We can write a punk rock song, we can write a rap song, and we're not going to stop until someone says, no, you can't do that, and then we're going to do it someone says no you can't do that and then we're going to do it anyway yes that's the beauty see that's what we need to bring into the jam
Starting point is 00:56:11 scene this i don't give a punk rock mentality we have a pretty funny song that starts as a punk rock song and i i kind of do like well he's living a lie and then the b section is sung in spanish by me and brian and it turns into a mariachi song see that's and I kind of do like well he's living a lie and then the B section song in Spanish by me and Brian and it turns into a mariachi song see that's jamming the people are so afraid to just throw curveballs all the time but like when you look think of the essence of a jam band you know you're supposed to throw curveballs put your dick out there whipip it around like a lasso, baby Write a country song, go into rap
Starting point is 00:56:47 Go into fucking a Grateful Dead vibe Do whatever the fuck you want Because it's your music and it's your musical freedom So I'm happy you guys met each other And I'm thankful that I get to be part of this journey I get to hear from Jon Bonjorno Jon Bonjorno, you're in the best hands
Starting point is 00:57:04 Jon is the best agent out there, and he understands freedom. I'm really excited for your career, guys. It's going to be awesome. Thanks, man. Well, dogs in a pile, thanks for being on the show. I hope you have a fun day. Go write a rap song, then go write a mariachi song. Just fucking put your dick out there. Okay, boys?
Starting point is 00:57:27 Have a good one, guys. Thanks for being on the show. Thanks, man. My sister's a nurse. Are you okay? Yeah, I'm doing great. Yeah? Just chill as hell, man.
Starting point is 00:57:40 I'm just a fucking vibey, chill guy. All right, if you're so vibey. This is exactly what happened to me when I was a kid. My parents put me in therapy when I was 12 because they thought I was depressed, but I think I was just a fucking vibey, chill guy. All right, if you're so vibey. This is exactly what happened to me when I was a kid. My parents put me in therapy when I was 12 because they thought I was depressed, but I think I was just hella chill. Did that fuck you up? No, I hated therapy.
Starting point is 00:57:52 That was so boring. I remember just staring at some painting and she had the wall just like, end this. Like, God, stop asking me about myself. Was there any breakthroughs in your therapy? For what? What are you going to breakthrough with me? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Maybe you're holding some... Maybe you're addicted to porn. when i was 12 there's no porn i was i was beaten off the internet i had no comment i would look at my dick i am six years older than you and porn that that gap the availability of porn when you were 12 when i was 12 is insane how much more easy it was for you to get porn than me true you're older than me the internet wasn't like banging like that you know like you could just probably do two clicks and be on porn you know you'd like download shit i my my sister's boyfriend gave me my first nude magazine what yeah is that technically a crime why well how old were you i don't know 12 13 i'm pretty sure giving pornography to a minor's crime oh whatever i not going to out him or anything. I'm just saying. Pretty badass crime.
Starting point is 00:58:45 But it was funny because it was like Big Bush magazine. Ugh. And I'd beat off. And my parents... Yeah. You can beat off to anything, I'm thinking. My parents found it and like, what the fuck is happening? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:56 It's not even top 10 of most embarrassing things. No, they're like, God damn it. He's already addicted to porn. Addicted? I was beaten off a lot. Really? Oh, yeah. Like, a lot.
Starting point is 00:59:07 When I was young. I would put my dick in my parents' jacuzzi. I wish your sentence would stop there. I would put my dick in my parents'. No, no. And that's all we have for this week, folks. To be continued. Check out Dogs in a Pile.
Starting point is 00:59:26 They're a jam band from New Jersey. Ever heard of a niece? I was just so into that stimulation. I knew that's what I was going to be addicted to. What, getting your penis jerked off? I know. It wasn't even jerking it off. I remember just putting my penis...
Starting point is 00:59:41 You know those air jets in a parent's bathroom where it's like it's kind of like a small spa yes i know exactly what you're talking about my dick in it and i never came because i was too young but i would have these like electrifying orgasms where like my head my eyes would roll back through my head and my parents never caught me or maybe they did and they sound like oh fuck i feel like if i caught my kid doing that, I would just leave it. Like, what's the point? Why talk about it? What a wild time, man.
Starting point is 01:00:11 I miss being a kid. Yeah, you were probably really good at it. It was fun. I didn't like middle school or high school because that was like the time I'm like, all right, I'm already an adult. Let's get the fuck out of here so I can go to work. High school was fun. Elementary school was so fucking fun. That was fun.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Middle school was my least favorite. Really? Yeah. i had fun in middle school 12 year olds were the worst 13 year olds eighth graders they pick on you no not really just kind of like over to the side doing my thing you know really yeah i'm not kind of hard to pick on i don't really it doesn't hit doesn't stick with me you know what i mean mean? No, no. You're sensitive. Okay, I'm a person, but there's other people that... I can take a joke. You know what I mean? Well, I love you.
Starting point is 01:00:52 And if I've ever hurt you, I don't want you to go commando. You didn't hurt me by not having me... Like a taxi driver on the whole music scene. You didn't hurt... Like you did in the beginning of the segment. I didn't go taxi driver. These guys suck.
Starting point is 01:01:04 This fucking guy's a poser. This guy's a guy's a fucking no god everyone sounds like pretty lights are fish well prove me wrong people make something different i'm probably guilty of it too i'm i mean i'm guilty whatever it's just product placement anyway whatever what do you think of this new turquoise band let's start that oh cool cool cool i like the band name yeah i do too i think they got it because they always say that to each other they're like cool cool like how you go chill chill chill chill like cool cool i'm happy that they're getting out there yeah they're too good of a band to just give up yeah and they had so much momentum with that whole turquoise thing um thanks thanks for being on the show hell yeah i um i know you're gonna miss me this weekend oh yeah where are you going again well this weekend too this weekend i'm going to my friend's bachelor party
Starting point is 01:01:49 what in palm springs some friends from elementary school in california i haven't seen in 20 years california or florida palm springs palm springs california have you seen that movie palm strings with uh andy sandberg it's so good i want to see that new Peel movie, Nope. Oh, that looks cool as hell. Yeah, it's aliens. I like Jordan Peel stuff. Right. But Palm Springs is good.
Starting point is 01:02:11 It's like a Groundhog Day kind of thing. Really? Yeah, it's fire. Well. It's on Hulu. But it happens. All right. Any other questions?
Starting point is 01:02:18 No, but I got to interview Sammy Ray. Oh, that's cool. You tuned in to the World's Health Podcast with that's cool. You tuned in to the World's Selfie Podcast with Andy Fresco. Thank you for listening
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