Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 206: TVBOO & Jeremy Salken (Big Gigantic)

Episode Date: February 14, 2023

*Call/text us and leave a message: [phone] No topic is out of bounds* Andy and the boys get on a boat and head into the middle of the ocean with an assembly of maniacs. That's right. We got a low-dopamine JAM CRUISE review. Hallelujah, it's raining 5HTP! (and yes, it's still the greatest 24 hour music party on the face of the planet) On deck for the Interview Hour we got TVBOO and Jeremy Salken?? Let's talk the producer scene and find out what a mensch TVBOO really is. Sleep easy knowing your serotonin will bounce back cuz those sunday scaries aren't forever. Especially if TVBOO swings by your town: www.musicbytvboo.com And don't forget to catch the band in a town near you andyfrasco.com/tour Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out Andy Frasco & The U.N. (Feat Little Stranger)'s new song, "Oh, What A Life" on iTunes, Spotify  Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Travis Gray (Wild Adriatic) The U.N. Arno Bakker

I'd rather be a big kid than a young adult. Cool, here's some more cum songs. I have to release all the cum, all the cum inside of me I've been unable to cum on time My dreams are the only thing keeping my dick alive Oh, baby, it rips the cum from my sack Whether it's nighttime or during a nap that's in the sun My pants are up, baby, we were born to come Baby, we were born to come

Alright, and we're live. Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco. How's our heads doing? How's our hearts? Are we not letting the low dopamine of Jam Cruise just fuck us? Jesus Christ. What a week.

What a fucking week. God damn it. This is this is I love it so much. I'm in the hotel airport on my way back to Denver. It's Monday, day after Jam Cruise. I got to get this

opening done before I get on my flight so I can edit this podcast so it can be done by the release date tomorrow. But God damn it. Dopamine at its lowest right now. Woo. And when you have low dopamine, you get sad. You forget all the good times

because you just totally trashed your body and depleted it. But it was one of the most magical, uh, weeks of my existence. And, um, shout out to all the birthday love. That was amazing. I, uh, I appreciate it. You know, 35 is, you know, it's a boring ass birthday with 35. What are we celebrating at 35? And you made me feel special and, um, on boat even off the boat you guys sent me all the love and I really appreciate how much you guys care about me

because you know how much I care about you and vice versa so it just made me feel good I will say one thing though I will not tell people it's my birthday next time I go on a trip because it just felt like I was just being obnoxious's my birthday. Um, next time I go on a trip, cause it just felt like I was just being obnoxious with my birthday. Like everyone's like, Oh, it's almost your birthday. It's almost your birthday. And I just, I don't like the, I don't like the attention like that. You know,

you're like, Oh, frasco. Of course you like the attention. You're out there at the fucking festivals, just, you know, kissing babies and shit. But, no, I don't like the attention of a birthday. Or I don't like, I like to, you know, impromptu show up and let's get some love and peace the fuck out. The problem with these jam cruises is you're on a boat in the middle of the ocean. You can't run away. You could just run back and forth from the boat. On one side of the boat to the other. You're going to see the same people.

back and forth from the boat on one side of the boat to the other. You're going to see the same people. And I just, I didn't want, I didn't want the boat to be just my birthday party. And I know it wasn't, but, you know, I just want, I just want to be part of the experience too and not just take that shit over. But we did fucking take that shit over and it was awesome. Shout out to the band for playing so awesome. Shout out to, uh, the band for playing so great. Shout out to all my friends. God, there were so many.

We'll go over this more in depth when I get, when I see Nick tomorrow or this week and we just do a deep dive into it. But man, it's a lot, it's a, it's a lot of, it's a lot of alcohol, a lot of drugs, a lot of, I love you mans at 5 o'clock in the morning. A lot of, you know, the food kind of trend. Always those cruises are shitty food. I got to give it out to Virgin Voyages when I did that influencer gig in Spain. The food was pretty good there, but cruise food's not that good. So I just ate pizza all day.

So it was just like Low dopamine And just carb depression You know what I'm saying? Like when you get sad And you eat a whole fucking pizza You're like god damn it I'm sad now boy Kind of how I felt in the mornings

And then I had a you know Vodka soda or something Or a shot And I'm like I'm back And yeah what not But it was good to see all the homies, dogs in a pile killed it, Umphreys killed, oh, man, felt like that was my, that was the best Umphreys set I've ever seen of them, actually, you know, and they had Kanika

on there, and, God, Kanika, fucking more, I love with her. Um, just as a person, you know, fuck, maybe she is my soulmate. I have no idea. I'm so fucked up with, with a relationship right now. I'm like, kind of like heart. Uh, let's not talk about that. We'll wait for Nick to, uh, slap me out of it. But, um, and I was just like, what the fuck? I was just in my head. And I realized when you're in your head, you're not living present. And it took jam crews and me getting off my phone and fucking just being part with my friends and going out and listening to music and remembering what it's all about.

And that is experiences with your friends and family, laughing together, sharing dinners, sharing love. You know, we could put any narrative we want of what type of person we are in our head. than we are in our head. But when it comes down to it, what the most important thing is is who you spend your time with and what you do with your time. So we could be deep in our heads and then forget,

oh yeah, I forgot that I'm with my friends right now. And what's that going to do? Make you more and more lonely. Get out there, go hang out with some people, go out there, do things you want to do. And don't let your brain stop you from fucking doing it. Okay? Good. Because we're going to have a great week this week. We got Taboo and Jeremy Salkin on the show. I'm getting deep in the, in EDM, or he didn't like me calling it EDM, but I'm getting deep in the, uh, the producer world. I want to know these guys. I want to know what the scene's about. And I think you're going

to love this guy. This guy has a podcast too. Taboo is fucking great. And, uh, Jeremy Sulkin took me out to him, um, took me out to meet him in, uh, where do you meet? Oh, he took us out to lunch. It was like kind of like a date, like a man date, right? Kind of checked each other out. Like what you got going on? He's like, what you got going on? It was kind of like a, you know, two bulls smashing their legs or whatever. And it turned out this guy's funny as hell and he's smart and he's, he loves all the same things. I, comedy, music, just connecting people. And it turned out to be a fun interview. You know, he's fucking hilarious.

It's dirtier than, you know. I was even taken back by some of the dirtiness he was talking about. I'm like, oh, fuck. And like, I met my match and I love it. So it gets dirty. We started egging on on the dirtiness. You're going to love this interview. What else is going is going on? Oh yeah. Dialed in gummies. This episode is presented by dialed in gummies. Go grab yourself some dialed in gummies. They

definitely helped me when I was strung out on this jam cruise. Holy shit. I need a dial in gummies in the morning when my hangover was just kicking in. Because the problem with jam cruises, the music is 24 hours. And you're like, oh, I'm so tired. I'm so tired. At like, you know, say 1 a.m. You're like, all right, let me just go to one more show. And then that show lasts four hours. And all of a sudden, 6 a.m., you're seeing the fucking sunset again.

You know, I puked a couple times on it. You know, just, I don't like the shakes. Sometimes if I lay down in bed, if I start like shaking or not shaking, but like, you know, getting, I might just take the demons out and get back to business. So yeah, 6 a.m.

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And now it's sink or swim with people's careers So these agents are in fucking survival mode To get their band some dates So Why not get yourself some more help? So sign in for Repsy.com. Sorry, I got acid reflux a little bit. Took an Alka-Seltzer to kind of calm down the demons in my stomach.

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Dial it in gummies. Next week, we're going to tell you all about the big... We just signed a deal with this big company that's going to be running a lot of the podcasts. And we'll talk about that a little bit more next week because that'll be the first week. But it's huge. And your boys are doing big things. So thanks for all the support.

Thanks for fucking getting us to this next level of the podcast. I appreciate it. All right, guys, stay happy. Stay inspired. Don't let the demons get you down because it's going to happen. If you deplete your dopamine, if you deplete your serotonin or whatever stuff that makes you happy, of course, you're going to be sad. Realize you got to refresh. Like I drank so much water today. I went to bed. Everyone was partying for the Superbowl. I was like, I, I, I stayed in, you'd be so proud of me. I stayed in bed all fucking day from 2 PM until 11 AM. I was in bed. You know, I felt bad for the Eagles. I was a little stranger to their Eagle fans, and they lost last second.

But, you know, living in Kansas City, I was happy for both teams. So let's go. Good job, Chiefs. Way to get it. But take care of yourselves. You know when it's time to throw the towel in and go to bed, you know? You're not invincible, and that's okay. You don't need to party.

If your body is telling you, hey, take a break, then take a break. And if you have serious addictions and you feel like your brain won't let you take a break, find a little help. It's okay to be vulnerable a little bit and get some help. Got an addiction problem? Go talk to somebody. Got bad anxiety? Go talk to a doctor. Go talk to a therapist. It's okay to find help. We find help when we break legs. We find help when we hurt ourselves at whatever you're doing, you know, might as well help your brain out. Might as well get that help so we can keep going just in case there's aliens. We want to go see, man. I truly hope that was scary yesterday with all those aliens. So I was like kind of scared.

I was nervous. And, um, you know, but I was also low depression, and it was just a bunch of shit. So what can you do? Find help if you need it. All right, guys. Enjoy Taboo. And I will catch you on the tail end. That's fucking good. Is it offensive to call you guys EDM music? I mean, it offends me to say EDM. It offends me when you look at me too long.

Don't make eye contact. If you breathe around me, it's offensive. This this is my safe space, dude. So don't call me an EDM guy. But you can call him a DJ. I'll call you a DJ. That's the most offensive. We got a big, big show. Jeremy Salkin. Hello. Welcome back. Always. What's up, buddy?

Everyone knows we're besties. That's fine. Yeah, we go way back. I love this. We have a new guy in the group. Why don't you introduce yourself to the group? I'm going to introduce myself to the group. I'm going to introduce myself to the group. I'm going to introduce myself to the group. I'm going to introduce myself to the group. I'm going to introduce myself to the group.

I'm going to introduce myself to the group. I'm going to introduce myself to the group. I'm going to introduce myself to the group. I'm going to introduce myself to the group. I'm going to introduce myself to the group. I'm going to introduce myself to the group. I'm going to introduce myself to the group. I'm goingin. Hello. Welcome back. Always. Speaker 2, Speaker 3, Speaker 4, Speaker 5, Speaker 6, Speaker 7, Speaker 8, Speaker 9, Speaker 10, Speaker 11, Speaker 12, Speaker 13, Speaker 14, Speaker 15, Speaker 16, Speaker 17, Speaker 18, Speaker 19, Speaker 20, Speaker 21, Speaker 22, Speaker 23, Speaker 24, Speaker 24, Speaker 25, Speaker 26, Speaker 27, Speaker 28, Speaker 29, Speaker 30, Speaker 30, Speaker 30, Speaker 31, Speaker 31, Speaker 32, Speaker 32, Speaker 32, Speaker 33, Speaker 34, Speaker 31, Speaker 32, Speaker 34, Speaker 35, Speaker 36, Speaker 37, Speaker 38, Speaker 38, Speaker 39, Speaker 40, Speaker 40, Speaker 41, Speaker 42, Speaker 42, Speaker 43, Speaker 42, Speaker

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Speaker 53, Speaker 54, Speaker 55, Speaker 56, Speaker 56, Speaker 57, Speaker 57, Speaker 57, is over, I can just walk rock and roll, dude. It's good times. Speaker 2, I love how Southern Shaquille O'Neal sounds like a white stuff. Speaker 0 7,0 Yeah, that's true. I went to LSU. I played there for a while. You know, it was a good times. Good. Nice to officially meet you, man.

I felt like yesterday I've, I've been thinking about this a lot all day. Yes. Or last night, like I was not completely present with you guys cause I was dealing with fucking Turo, which sucks. Never deal with Turo because the rental car, fuck Turo sponsors. What are you doing? I know, but they're all going to be on for one week. So it's fine. Um, but it's nice to meet you, man. You have a podcast, which podcast called it's called talks with taboo. Yeah. And yeah, dude, yesterday, uh, you know, my girl, she asked, how was it with Andy Frasco? And you're excited about that.

I'm like, dude, he's kind of a fucking asshole. I also messaged her that. I found her online and messaged her. Yeah, I was like, he wasn't even there, bro. I'm just talking. He's just ignoring me. It's like, it's like, how's it how I do to her? It's like talking about your mother and your past.

And I'm just not I'm just texting Turo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mm hmm. Oh. It's weird. It's like talking about your mother and your past and I'm just texting Turo. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's crazy. How many times did you say that? Oh, that's crazy. Seven times. It's been like, I've wanted to introduce you guys for a while since I met Mitch and we did his podcast. I was like,

oh my God, these dudes literally were straight up separated at birth somehow. One went to birth somehow one went to la one went to mississippi and you're both on these like you know one grew up ended up being a dj producer and the other one is a fucking in a band yeah and you guys there's so much you guys have such a similar vibe like at the core the vibe is there i love even though you're like, and it just, I don't know. I love both of you guys already. Mitch is a new friend, but like I'm fucking little bro. I love it. And it's great. I'm, I'm glad to be able to facilitate that. You're like

the Suge Knight of the music scene right now. Pippin out Mitch baby. Let's go. Jeremy Salkin always there was that one that we know of anybody with a car yet. Our show pony, dude. Jeremy Sulkin. Always. There was that one time. That we know of. His is on camera. You know what I love about you, Jeremy? You're always thinking about other people. And I fuck with that.

Wow. I appreciate that a lot, man. You're really good. My mom would love to hear that. You really do think about it. She trained me. You message me when you're thinking about me and I just want to say thanks. Dude, your last name's Sulkin?

Sulkin. Yeah, S-A-L. Do you think that came from Salt Lake City and the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym.

I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to go to the gym. I don't know where it came from. I want to look into it, bro. I probably should. The interesting, dude.

We had to do a project in school. My last name's Draper. We had to do a project where our names came from and I just made it up. And they're not going to fucking look up where our names came from. So I made the best story. I got it at 100, dude. I said we made drapes for the kings and queens of England.

Not for the fucking common folk, but we did it for royalty and then and then we became pirates and then we were stealing people shit things up and one of them fell in love and then moved to the new land and then slaughtered a bunch of you know people oh america the story of america yeah all right let's go we love to hear it the dra Drapers, the original Americans. Mitchell Lee Draper. I mean, if you, like, I did a 21 or 23 in me, and I am 100% full-blood American. Really? Yeah.

Do you have a little incest in you? But not native. I'm sure, actually, dude, I'm pretty positive I do, because, like. What, incest? Yeah, so we used to go to these family reunions and uh oh god where was this place in bumfuck mississippi dude uh edinburgh mississippi and we had a family reunion once a year in this big white church and i'm talking about everything from your first cousin to like your sixth dude and like motherfuckers be hitting on my sister is she hot yeah dude my sister's fine as yeah i i know what i i you know i'll story time

it a little bit i had a crush on my second cousin whoa dude i my step cousin really wow what a start to a podcast gotta get in the hard drive sometime though hold on did you grow up rich or poor poor how poor um we didn't really know that we were poor you know what i mean like my mom she worked three jobs just to make sure that like you know my my me and my siblings could do our extra curriculars if we wanted to and uh curricula sorry and uh if we wanted to do those we could so you know we had everything that we needed but like we definitely like like if we got it if those, we could. So, you know, we had everything that we needed, but, like, we definitely, like, if my mom got, like, a ticket or, like, you know, something broke, we were kind of fucked.

Right. Where was your dad? My dad, he was there, but not really. You know what I mean? Like, I'd go see him. Me and my dad, you know, we'd go to deer camp on the weekends. We're both big hunters. And, you know, he didn didn't fucking he wasn't really

there he never asked me how i'm doing but like i'd go hang out and we didn't talk about none of that shit dude he wanted to get away from his wife at that time and i just wanted to fucking just escape everything out so we're just chilling bro what what were you escaping just like you know school oh you weren't you didn't like school hell no man that shit was stressing me out what else did you have friends or were you a loner? Dude, you don't think I have friends? I don't know. You have a mullet now.

I bet you have a ton of friends. It is weird how like growing up, this was like frowned upon in like most places. But now like this gets you laid. I know. It's weird. I was super insecure of my afro. I kept it short my whole life because everyone was making fun of my curly hair.

And then the minute I grew it out when I was 19, people wanted to hang out. Yeah. It's fucking weird how that happened. Why do we have these? We build these insecurities in our heads early on that we just keep, that we forget that, oh yeah, we're adults. We don't need to be insecure about that anymore. Right.

What made you cool like in high school, like you're an adult don't fucking matter like i had friends but i wasn't like a you know i was cool with everybody but i wasn't like a cool kid i was a punk rocker dude just fucking yeah i was doing the same shit then as i am now just i'm in different music i was always the kid at school handing out flyers to try to come see my bands and shows i was throwing and just you know all this different how many songs in your punk rock career talked about the resentment of your father none actually dude really i don't think so i don't resent my father at all i love him very much you know he just could have helped out a little bit more you know yeah oh so he was around he didn't like ditch the family no man i

mean no he was he was around but he won't he wasn't you know what i nah, he was around, but he won't. He wasn't. You know what I mean? Like, he was, you know, we'd hang out and go hunt, but like, you know, it'd have been cool to like get a call and say like, how are you doing? You don't need any help with anything or like help my mom out every now and then, you know? Were they together? Did they like divorce at some point? Yeah, dude. They were like five when they got a divorce, bro. Oh, so you're way young. So you didn't really feel the... No, it might have fucked up my older brother, but, you know, it did fine with me. And it fucked up my sister probably,

but it didn't affect me, dude. Do you remember your first memory? You? Yeah, and it's fucked up, dude. I don't know if I want to tell this story. I actually fuck it. Tell me. Yeah, dude.

My dad used to say, I'm helping your mom screw in a light bulb and they were fucking how old are you it wasn't that far off like three dude three yeah something like that maybe you know you remember that that's what's crazy that's my first memory i'm trying to remember like when i remember actually not i uh i take it back you know they say that you remember like traumatic events dude my mom left me in the car i was in a car seat dude i was young as hell and uh it was a hot day in mississippi and she left me in the back bro for wild i'm really burning up my sister

and her friends were outside playing i'm screaming they finally came and got me that's my first memory why do we always remember the most traumatic things? Like, we don't remember like the good things first. Well, it's like, I mean, it's like nowadays. Like, people can tell you a hundred nice things

about your new song, but that one person's like, this shit sucks. You're fucking gay. Eat that fucking, that sticks to you. Yeah. Right.

It's so weird how different you guys are from only being a couple states away. Because Virginia's the south too. It's pretty far. It's the most northern southern zone. But there's definitely

like rednecks there. Is it above the Dixieland or below? It's the first one I think below it. Okay, where? Richmond was the capital of the south. Yeah, it was the capital. But yeah, I grew up in the suburbs of Richmond, but it wasn't. But I was also in like the suburbs of Yeah Of Richmond

But it wasn't But I was also in punk rock bands And played drums Yeah God, that's so similar too Yeah Mississippi Rednecks Because you were a drummer too, right?

Mm-hmm Oh my God What's your first memory, Jay? I mean, I don't Yeah, I don't I don't have anything I do remember going to Epcot In Disney World

When I was like really young But I don't remember Yeah, I think that's my first memory too Going to Disney? Going to Disneyland That's a sick first memory i do remember going to epcot in disney world when i was like really young but i don't remember yeah i think that's my first memory too i went to disney going to disneyland my dad used to tell us every year if we were good he was going to take us to disney world that never took you and we would be good dude he lied he would just lie he would say if you're good son we'll take you to disney world next year still hadn't paid up bro wow yeah that's amazing like a big corporation close with him now do you still talk to him now i talk to him more now uh see all that stuff would piss me

off how did that not piss you off and have resentment i'm good at letting go bro like i don't know yeah not that's none i mean my dad's he's you know his dad was a shit like a terrible dude so like he didn't have much to go off of you know and i actually lucked out of of it because i'm very fortunate i have two dads like not in a gay way but like uh my mom remarried to my stepdad and he's like a second father to me dude like i love him literally just as much as my own dad and you know he's taught me so much and you know really you know i took the best of what my dad could teach me and what my stepdad could teach me so it was like the best situation i could have had bro like blessings in disguise yeah it's kind of nice to having four teachers instead of two because like i don't know when parents some parents this might

be the first time they've had a kid so they're gonna fuck up with you more than gonna fuck up with your sister or your brother but this is wild to me okay so i'm always so curious there's a lot of guys um who are into heavy music and then go into dance music like skrillex i used to book his band from first to last what are the similarities do you guys see in heavy music and dance music? So I remember seeing, I think it was Dat Sick at Buku Fest in 2014. It was my first ever festival or dance music show I'd ever been to. I remember listening to them and I was just almost headbanging and shit. I'm like, dude, this is metal. It's like metal but like with different sounds like this is cool as

you know one of the reasons i loved metal so much was like the energy in it and how it made me feel i'm like want to throw down right and i think that's what like you know dubstep really like grasped me i was like dude this is like heavy and like energetic like i want to kill somebody right yeah sick what about you jake i mean that's definitely the connection for sure is that same like kind of tempo and head banging aspect is because of that tempo like you can go between literally dubstep and like whether it's hardcore music or heavy metal or whatever it still it fits in that same vibe and it does make you like want to you know i'm i was

too small to jump in a mosh pit when i was a kid i stayed far away from that and the people are hotter but it's crazy people are hotter at edm shows for sure like but uh but hotter. But it's crazy. People are hotter at EDM shows, for sure. But yeah, I mean, it's the same. It's such a similar vibe, especially with dubstep. Like not all EDM, obviously like house music and stuff like that are like way off. But specifically dubstep, it's like, it's right there. The connection is like, it's there. And it's crazy because like I used like like the heaviest of metal bands but i never really liked like heavy aggressive dubstep never got into it what really got me into it was like the trap vibes like right where flosher domus was coming up yeah

and um like because i grew up on like southern like you know south southern hip-hop and like that so i was like well this is cool as but also i'm a metalhead so i can appreciate a live setting for like the heavy Dubstep type stuff But like Yeah the thing That got me involved Was really that

You know It was the A's A's In the background Of this trap beat Dude it was fucking cool dude It was dope I just remember

Dancing my ass off And I was like I love this How hard was it To learn Like transition Into learning The program

To learn your songs Write your songs Vers write your songs versus doing it acoustically with drums and being in a band like that? I wouldn't say it was hard because I fell in love with it, right? You started with Ableton? Yeah. I feel like things are hard when you're not fucking loving it, right? So like I loved the whole process.

You know, the whole process of just starting over and relearning. Like it, it obviously was challenging, but it never felt hard because I was fully into it and fully dedicated. Like I became obsessed with it. And still to this day, dude, like I just,

I love doing it. And I can sit in front of a computer for 12, 14 hours and just zone everything out. Not right. And it flies by man. It's just fun as fuck, but obviously it's challenging learning stuff like that. Cause there a lot to it you'll never learn everything it's impossible to learn everything but um but if you really love it like it ain't hard you know what i mean it's

just a new obstacle you got to do yeah it's pretty wild to me so when you're thinking about evolving what do you think about um you know i don't believe in evolution i believe in jesus christ hell yeah this is america andy you went over there my guy is american as american can be let's go selling the dream yeah what do you mean like evolving like as an artist as an artist like what do you think about do you just do it or do you are you really focused on changing things up all the every year i think about it all the time dude like you know i just did my album blue collar bass and um that's cool yeah it's fun time by the people for the people and um i just did that album and so like you know i i have

to i feel like whenever you write a record you know writing like you just drop in singles or like a fun idea of like an ep or whatever like you can really just i feel like, you just drop in singles or, like, a fun idea of, like, an EP or whatever. Like, you can really just, I feel like it's just, you know, put out bangers or whatever. But I feel like with an album, you really want to take whatever you've done to that next level. Almost reinvent your, like, reinvent the wheel, but it's, like, the same wheel. Maybe, like, some new rims, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, dude, I think about that all the fucking time, you know. Something I talk about with my team, you know, how can we take it to the next level?

How can we make it more fun? How can we make the music better? Who can we work with that would fit the vibe or would be cool to, you know, write a track with? So yeah, I mean, I think about that. You know, it keeps me up at night, dude. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's like Jeremy, we had this conversation.

Like, you throw these fucking bangers at red rocks, these 3d things like this most epic fucking show. And then like you have to do, you have to top that next year. Yeah. It's fucked up. I can see you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying

you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying you're saying Don't be successful, guys. You don't have to worry about it as much. That's been my strategy the whole time. You've been crushing it, Nick. I'm crushing that, dude. You're crushing. At some point, y'all just aren't going to make money doing Red Rocks because all your money is going to production. Yeah, we haven't. The last five years, you mean? God, how do you do that?

The first year that we did it and we had these crazy projectors. At the time, we projected on the rocks, which people hadn't done. But just figuring that out. And that was... At the time, we were like, how much does it cost? Shit. After the first two years, I was going around joking like,

we should skip the projector, skip lights, and just confetti blast 20 grand into the crowd each night and we would save money yeah and we'd be giving money back to people yeah i'll go to that show i was like let's just skip it and just blast money out throughout the night it'll save money doing that it only falls in the vip the rich people yeah it flows back on stage It's like windy or whatever. Sound more Jewish. No, but it's so funny. And now we're going to create our own country. It's just silly.

But yeah, it's only gotten crazier from there. And 3D was like, it was so fun to be able to do that. And the reaction of the fans when we dropped the first tracks that were 3D and the first videos, because we couldn't... I don't know what's happening back there. The show's not for me. because we couldn't... I don't know what's happening back there. The show's not for me. I don't know what's going on. Literally, I have no clue. And then people are like, whoa! And I turn around and there's like

something's fucking... An astronaut is like reaching out over us or whatever. And that is 100% worth it in the experience. Do you get to watch the show before it's programmed? Sometimes, but in that case, they were literally like, they had to put the servers for like all the video content.

It was still like rendering out all these videos, which take hours and hours when they're that 10, 15 gigabyte videos. And they put them in a box truck and had to have a power supply. What do you call it? Like a... Oh, my God. A damn generator?

Generator. They had to have a generator to keep the computers going to drive from the rehearsal place to Red Rocks so they could render out videos to put them in time. I mean, it was like... That sounds so stressful.

Yeah. Low cost. But I didn't actually know that until like after. Then you got to buy all those glasses. Glasses. Glasses aren't cheap. We still got some because we had to cancel the 3D tour because of COVID. If anybody wants some 3D glasses, we got them.

For Avatar. Okay. First time you do 3D. First time you do it. You're like, oh my god, this is the most brilliant idea. Then the show's over. Then you think about next year. You have a little diarrhea like, fuck, what am I

going to do? Drones, dude. We talked about the drones. Drones are so expensive and you can't like... If people are up close, they kind of can't see them. And then it's like, you know, some of the just figures that they're making, which if you want the real shit, you need like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of drones.

And that's like 50 G's on it. Oh my God. Midget strippers. Midget strippers. Yeah. Like wrestling back in the day. The next level for big G. We've got strippers.

We've got midget strippers. I looked into it. Really? Yeah. Vasco had a stripper at his New Year's show. I had a stripper at his New Year's show. I had one girl who was a fetish. She sits on cakes.

And the cake went inside her. You had a male stripper at your birthday party? You guys don't even know how alike you are. It's fucked up. I had a male stripper last year for my birthday. That was a surprise. I tried to do it at my Cervantes show last year. I tried to fucking bring male strippers and mid show last year. I tried to fucking bring male

strippers and midget strippers, but I just, it just wasn't in the budget. How much, how much are strippers? 1600 flat is like the, for like any private stuff. You know what I mean? Stripper male, good stripper. No dude. I want nasty. You know, they wanted 1600. That's like the, that's the, that's the, I mean, how much was our guy per, per, per stripper? 1600. It was like two 50. Speaker 2 and he drove to Boulder. That was the funniest shit in a snowstorm. That was the funniest shit ever. He had no idea. And like a cut, he was dressed as a cop, right? During the, and he came out on stage. Yeah. They're stopping the pushing, pushing the security guard. He had no idea. And like he was just as a cop, right? During the show. And he came out on stage. Yeah. They're stopping the pushing the security guard.

He fell for it first. I did. And also I saw SWAT team. I'm like, oh, it's a fucking stripper, dude. SWAT teams coming to Boulder, Colorado. It was brilliant. Dude. Yeah. We were trying to buy my buddy a stripper for his bachelor party last year, dude. And we were in damn Dustin Florida and the base price for that fucking $2,500 for private shoes Man, I mean I could have went on back pages and made it a lot cheaper do but you get some sketchy ass shit back You know, yeah, I remember my 18th birthday my parents know my friends 18th birthday but my parents let me have a party for him at the house and We hired a stripper.

And I had to talk to the pimp or whatever. It's like, he knew we're all under age 17, 18. So they took all our money. And she's like 500 bucks and you can put a candle in me. And this is in my living room. And like, she's putting a candle in her vagina. And it's like, there's like wax going everywhere. And my parents are upstairs.

Lit candle. My parents are upstairs. Like, well, you can have your party. My mom's oblivious. She thought it was just like a little like stripper thing, like teaser with like a little lingerie thing. It wasn't this fucking candle and vagina type stuff. And my dad keep walking downstairs and just checking on us like, hell yeah. And then my friend walked up to, she was close to my mom.

And he's like, you can't believe what's going on down there my mom walked Party over It was in she was in the living room and like, you know next to baby pictures of me in the living room and stuff and she's like And then my dad's like everyone's got a a gun. The stripper, like after two minutes, already took our 600, 700 bucks. Yeah. Just like perfect.

I got it. Let's go. I'll get out of here. Dude, you ever go to a strip club with your dad? No, I've never, but I can't, I can't fuck with strip clubs. Oh really? You like, you went with your pops? Hell yeah, man.

So, uh, you know, in Mississippi, the legal age to go into a strip club 21 so my dad left parental supervision so this is hilarious so my dad my dad moved out of Mississippi like you know when I was like 16 or something like that moved to Arkansas yeah and I get a text one night and he's like what are you doing I'm like I'm showing up the house he's like well'm up at Danny's, which is the strip club in Jackson. And I was like, you're fucking in town and didn't call me. He's like, I'm calling you right now. I'm like, true.

And he's like, come up here. And I'm like, I'm 18. I can't get in. He said, I know everyone up here. We're good. Show enough, dude. Like fucking Drapers. Is this your son?

Like, you know, he's fucking cool. But me and my dad, dude, he was like, watch son. Just watch me, man. If you throw him enough money, they'll play with their pussy. your son like you know he might get cool but me and my dad dude he was like watch son just watch me man if you throw him enough money they'll play with their pussy and sure enough dude he just stood up there dude she started playing with that thing for him and that was an experience dude i could say i did that with my dad and it was chill it wasn't weird at all no it was cool yeah like you know stuff like that ain't weird like me and my brother came to the conclusion that we would do a threesome together and it wouldn't be weird you and your bro yeah we'd smash down on a we came to that conclusion a couple years back

like stuff like that where it's like you take the family out of it for a second and you're just boys this is like that's what it felt like me and my dad and me and my brother if we the it'd just be you know boys smashing what like, would you allow your brother to have sex with your girlfriend? Hell no, dude. I thought fuck is wrong. What is wrong with you, dude? Moral. God.

Here we go. All of these scenarios are if I was single, dude. What does your girlfriend think of you? She hates me, man. Yeah? Nah, she thinks it's cool. I mean, what does she think of me, man? I think she thinks I'm cool, man. I think she thinks I'm funny. You're a nice guy. You can tell. You're just what does she think of me, man? I think she thinks I'm cool, man.

I think she thinks I'm funny. You're a nice guy. You could tell. You're just joking around a lot of the time, right? Oh, yeah. All I do is joke. I can't help it. You know, that would be the thing that she might not like.

Sometimes she wants me to be some serious, but I just, I can't. Yeah, but. God, we're alike. No, she digs me, man. Check that one off. She definitely digs me. If you had to only pick one, what would you pick or music music music yeah easy so like music is like my like if i don't produce for like a week i feel like i'm failing i'm like you know sometimes i base my happiness

around about how much music i've been making and how cool it is you know what i mean really and uh comedy is just fucking fun. You know, I really love performing, but if I had to take away like performing or just sitting down and making music, I'm going to go making music, man, because there's just no better feeling than just being by yourself, zoning everything out,

not worrying about what anybody thinks of what you're making and just having a good time. You know, and there's nothing, I don't think there's a better feeling than like being fucking jacked up on a song that's cool. So as you get more successful in your career, has that mind state changed? Are you thinking about your fans a little more

than thinking about yourself now you make music? Nope. That's awesome. I try not to think about anything, bro. Like if I go into the studio, like I'll have like ideas, things I want to make. But like if I'm trying to create something, like, oh, I got to make like a club smasher like you know festival banger this that's gonna

suck it's gonna it's gonna not sound like me and it's just not gonna be as fun my the songs that my fans vibe with the most are the dumbest goofiest songs that i think are hilarious or just fun and those are usually what hit, so I just said, fuck it. I'm just going to keep being myself, man. God, I got to be a DJ. Sounds so much less pressure. I don't know. Still a lot of pressure. Still mad pressure. But he's playing fun stuff.

You're playing fun stuff. I know, but I have to think about it more. I can't just talk about... I have to have a theme now. Yeah, but you also have songs that are like... Silly. Smoking, whatever. Yeah, but that was like 12 years ago.

Okay, good point. So it's like, I've got to evolve. He's young, blood. That's all I was going to say. I know. This guy's just starting out. He's getting popping. Not necessarily just starting out.

But his level is popping. Starting to pop. What advice would you give this man for the next five years of his career? Oh, shit. Praise the Lord and fuck whores. Let's go. My man's American made. What kind of big bro advice would you give this man?

I'm curious. Man, I love that you're bringing this like comedic aspect and just like the goofy shit. Because it's just like fun, man. It's cool to, there's no like Frank Zappa of EDM necessarily. And that is something that, you know, I've noticed for a long ass time that's been, been missing. And I don't know if you ever listened to Zappa growing up or anything like that. Yeah. You should definitely check. Yeah. Zappa's the shit. I'll send you some shit but it's cool man and he's super talented at what he does like incredible musician only hired the best like people out like

best musicians out there to play really complicated music but they'd be singing they'd be like making fun of disco which was like big at the time or they'd be like he'd be playing jokes on you know whatever pretty much commentary about like a lot of social commentary but um but yeah just like not taking that serious even though he took it like probably too seriously you know this man is the business guru right yeah i know so i've heard this man does all the spreadsheets for the band which i want to talk we're going to talk about how much time we got time boys. I'm getting into that. Okay.

I think I thought the advice you're missing was don't go 3d year one. Yeah. Go 3d. Just throw it all up. Don't go 3d year one. Go 4d. Year 10. 3d.

Yeah. You could have smells going to the crowd. You know what I mean? Put some pheromones in there. Yeah. Fart pheromones. But yeah, dude, I mean, keeping like, not like you want to go big, but don't, you know what i mean put some pheromones in there yeah pheromones um but yeah dude i mean keeping like not like you want to go big but don't you know find that that line that works but also don't hold yourself back because you're like we don't want to um yeah

you're doing great my guy jeremy never has a bad thing to say about people. Thank you, man. That means a lot, brother. That's not true. No, no, no. Keep that number. I can just wait till I'm listening. All the things he told me on Saturday night when we were at your dance party. Yeah. Oh yeah. I was like, they're like, I was like, I saw Jeremy. I'm like, man, I'm so stoked. You came. He's like, I came for the motel. I was like, yeah, just pop it over real quick. We're going to catch some music later. I'm just kidding. I just wanted to say hi and hand you a beer. You're the man.

I love you, buddy. Love you too, man. You really are. He's a good friend. Dude, I can tell. He's a good friend. I haven't known him that long, but ever since I met him, dude, you've been cool as shit. You text me random shit or comment on my DM, random things.

I'm like, dude, this guy's fucking awesome. I try not to overstep a boundary. I'm just like, yeah, we're cool, whatever.. I'm like, dude, this guy's fucking awesome. I try not to like, you know, overstep a boundary or I'm just like, yeah, we're cool. Like, you know, whatever. But like, you're like, no, we're really cool. I'm like, fuck yeah, man.

Let's go, man. It's all good, man. Yeah, I love that, dude. Like, I love that about you, man. You seem like a good fucking dude. You know what he did? I moved to, I moved to Denver three years ago

right before the quarantine, like right before we got quarantined. Like I bought my house and I got off tour and he came over over the house. He's like, bro, you have no cleaning supplies. You have nothing like, what do you, he took my ass to target and Costco and Costco. He's got Costco where the deals. And we remember that we put on like four, four gloves. Yeah. It was in the, yeah. Multiple masks. We had gloves on with the the shopping he came in and he introduced me to nick gerlach he said you have to meet nick you're the one you have the great co-host you have it

wasn't for you i don't get any credit for that i know you're the one who found that you really are actually dude how did that even happen i don't even remember he said i said you're funny and you're funny and you guys should talk because you'd be funny matchmaker stop coming over soon and then you had to pretty much like live in here i love it yeah that's good times right i got it i got your back i got you you're the best you're back got your back yeah this is great mitch most of the time going back to you having sex with a woman with your brother okay when you're doing this would you make out with him dude yeah yeah there's a sword you're doing this, would you make out with him? Dude. Yeah. Yeah, there's a sword. You're saying, bro.

What? Crossing sword. You're saying, like, you're taking the brother out of it. That's true. I've kissed the fellas. Yeah. Would you make out and, like, fuck your brother? No, dude.

My brother's not hot. So? If he was hot, dude. So, if he was... Who's hot to you? So, what's the point of a threesome? You're just... See, I'm not just, like... It's a threesome? It's like

a bro thing. It's like, yo, dude, we're about to smash down. You know what I mean? We're about to bang it out. Is that a threesome still? I've had one threesome with my friend in high school. And it was me and my buddy and this girl.

She was way more into my buddy. Yeah. You were the co-host way more into the, my buddy. Yeah. And I, she just like, kind of like, Hey, I was the co-host. Wow. And, um, I just felt, I just, it was really weird to see his penis go inside a woman. Y'all make out. We know we looked at each other in the eyes. Like then why would you ask me if I make out with my brother, dude? Cause I wasn't... You a cop? You got to tell him if you're a cop.

When I was thinking about it, I was like, should I kiss him? Well, you're always thinking about kissing guys. It was my first threesome. I didn't know. Should I kiss him too? Are we technically dating now? What do you do? Yeah, are we dating? Am I supposed to buy him something?

Are you going to take him on a date after this? I need a date for a wedding next month should i think about that stuff a lot nah man i ain't never done it with like you know two you know two two men and a woman i've had three sons with two girls which is cool but like i wanted to yeah i want to do it with like one of the bullies man yeah i feel you yeah like high five like yeah exactly you gotta you gotta have five yeah or else it's not you didn't do it with the boy you just did it some dude yeah eiffel tower it's all about the fellas man you know oh let's clap i'll clap for that it's all

american made this is the mic i know um so anything special you guys gonna do on this tour like have you guys talked about what you guys what type of collaboration you're gonna do for this or is it or or is that how DJs roll or? Yeah, we were just, so we're talking about a threesome, but with Dom and me and Jeremy are going to make it. We haven't told Dom about it yet. It's just Dom in the middle while you are trying to kiss around him.

For a guy named Dom, he's a total simp, you know? Nice. I know nothing about DJs like that. The cultured, maybe this is Nick's category. Do you have any questions for these two lovely producers? I'm not a producer. No, he's a producer. I'm a businessman. Slash businessman. Who's your, like, who did you first, when you first got into it, you said you were first bass nectar was a guy you were first into kind of, right? Yeah. It was like RL Grime, Flasher Thomas and like bass neck. So you're into the trap guys. What about the trap Caesar hero bust?

Oh yeah. So like who, when you first got into it, who did you learn from as far as just from a production angle first, like who are some of your influences, not just like in the party world, but like actually like in practice. I'd say probably RL Grime dude. Like whenever I was like making first started and make music, or some of your influences, not just like in the party world, but like actually like in practice? I'd say probably R.L. Grime, dude. Whenever I was like making, first started to make music,

you know, I wanted to literally be R.L. Grime. Right. And for the longest time, I was just trying to make shit that sounded like them. And then it's like, once I finally stopped doing that and just like,

once I had like a grasp on everything I was doing, started making stuff that I thought was cool, that's when it like started. Do you think there's like a parallel to comedy with that where like you start out kind of imitating your favorite comedians until you kind of find your own voice and then you start oh yeah your own stuff for sure i mean one of the things that influences my music the most is actually comedy dude like if i'm laughing and like i'm fucking

making some good music right you know what i mean so like i'll usually start my day off with like watching like comedy like reels or shorts before i get to work and and like it just gets me fucking fucking making some good music. Right, right. You know what I mean? So, like, I'll usually start my day off with, like, watching, like, comedy, like, reels or shorts before I get to work and, like, it just gets me fucking feeling goofy. Gets the dopamine going a little. Yeah, man. So, like, but yeah, dude, I mean,

I don't know, dude. With comedy, the first time I got up there and tried it, I crushed. I've heard that that happens a lot the first time and then the second time. I bombed for two straight months after that. Because're like just you like don't know your first time like

you're so confident because you don't know like the you know what i mean you don't know how to be nervous yet yeah and it took me literally like two months of bombing to finally get like another laugh i'm like thank god i thought about hanging it up and stopping but i was just like um what do you think that is i don't know I because there's no parallel to that music I don't think like with it what's because like if you get up there like I have a sax player so like when I used to get up and go to open mics when I still sucked I was still like good enough at the saxophone you know I mean because you have to hit a certain skill level to be invited to be on stage but like with comedy you just write like just sign up right for an open

mic so I think like the floor is like way harder So I don't think there's a parallel for that music. I think it's just like maybe you don't know what to be nervous about yet. So you don't make the mistakes that a nervous person makes maybe when you're telling the stories. Then you're probably thinking about it the next time you do it. You're chasing that like, I got this and then it just falls flat.

And you're like... One thing about comedy for me is confidence is key, dude. Dave Chappelle said, you don't always have to be funny but you always have to be entertaining yeah so it's like you go up there and you talk like you know what you're talking about or like you at least have a story maybe it's not funny at this you know for this amount of time but it's got them their fucking attention like that that can be comedy you know what i mean just like an entertainer so you know fucking i've seen comedians with you know

great jokes but they're like nervous as hell i'm like dude you gotta just like late same with djs though i've seen djs play dope ass sets but they're just like scared up there behind the decks i'm like dude fucking rock out dude you're fucking throwing a party like have some fun up there if you show the crowd you're having fun or show them that like what you're in what you're doing right now is fucking cool or fun, dude. They're going to, they're going to feed off. Yeah, exactly. Sometimes they don't know and you have to tell them.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, Hey, that's funny. Why don't you laugh? Yeah. If you don't laugh, if you don't laugh at this joke, I'll fucking get, I'm the comedian. I'm the expert here.

I'm telling you it's funny. Do you remember the first time you made someone laugh? Oh, fuck. Yeah, dude. So I used to like hurt myself in front of like jackass style yeah like johnny cash yeah i hurt my so like i used to i used to want to get like my brother i used to think my brother was so cool like him and his buddies um so whenever i was younger i would just do fucking dumb shit to try to get him to laugh or pay attention so like you know we had like a

ceiling fan in our bedroom, and I'd be like, hey, Matt, watch this, and just put my head in the ceiling. Just fucking hitting the shit out of myself, man. What the fuck are they up to in Mississippi? They're not shit to do, man. Ain't shit, dude. It's entertainment.

It's like Indiana, honestly. It's not much different. Yeah, dude. So, like, I think that was the first time I got, like, good laughs. I was always, like, the class clown. Right. I never, like, the teachers always liked me because, like, I was, I was always like the class clown. Like, I never like the teachers always liked me because like I was funny. I was never like funny and like an asshole.

I was like funny. And they're like, Oh, that was funny. And then they, you know, I wasn't a bad student. I mean,

I didn't have good grades, but I wasn't like dick. So like, you knew when to turn it off and not push that line. Okay. Yeah. I'd wait for my moment to strike dude. But fucking,

uh, you know, I, I got, I, it was for my moment to strike, dude. But fucking, you know, it was either trying to make my brother and his friends laugh or just making mother classmates and teachers laugh. Yeah. Yeah. So with that confidence from making people laugh, do you think people were making fun of you

or are they laughing with you? I didn't give a fuck, honestly, man. I really did not give a fuck. Really? No? No. Nothing you're insecure about? Sometimes my body. Wait, were you fat?

No, dude. I got a small dick. Oh, that's fine. It's average. I was trying to get a laugh. Then I got nothing. It just seemed true, so it felt bad.

Yeah, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You might have a small dick. You sold it too good so like i like to exercise like i like to run i like to play basketball i like to lift weights so like whenever like i don't do that for a while and i'm just like eating like shit maybe i'm on the road for too long like i can feel like feel my body like man i don't i don't look good i don't feel good so maybe that's like some things i'm insecure about is like sometimes my body you know

but uh man you're sexy dude don't i know i know i'm sexy but sometimes like sometimes my body you know but uh man you're sexy dude i know i know i'm sexy but sometimes it gets me man you know like i mean i would me like if there was another one of me like yeah would you have a threesome with yourself would you kiss yourself would you man i have a twosome with myself dude yeah there you go right up i would blow this out of myself i've definitely had a few onesomes yeah handful but nah man like i honestly didn't care if they were laughing at me or with me as long as they were laughing you know laughter is fun and like it lightens the mood whatever so you know like one thing about me is i don't get like embarrassed or like nothing embarrass me it's hard

to to offend me or to embarrass my. So whenever I'm in public, I'll do shit on purpose to get a reaction from people or my girlfriend. I'll embarrass her. She's like, how does this not fuck with you? It's really hard to... Does she get embarrassed? Yeah.

And you like that. What have you done? What's the... Saying something in an elevator like, did you kill the homeless guy? Yeah, we'll be in Walmart. I'm like, did you fuck my my brother i'll just yell it yeah like it's like a little like that dude like in the airports i'll do random like you know just things like that where i just get

the attention of other people who are doing random where i'm just like oh my god oh my sister's a lesbian yeah that's hot you know like like that hot. You know, like shit like that. Just yell it out. Yeah, yeah. Like that. Oh my God, my sister's gay. Fuck yeah, that's hot. Like little things like that.

Like, you know, whatever. Do you think Walmart, like what? We have like 10 of these a day. I'm trying to figure out where that comes from. Like, did you feel like you weren't getting enough attention

as a kid? No, man. I've just always been an energetic little motherfucker, dude. Always. And so, like, I was just always... I wouldn't say it was trying to get attention. It was almost just trying to get approval. Yeah.

You know what I mean? I hear that. Yeah. I was like that, too. Yeah, trying to get, like, approval that, like, what I'm doing is cool or funny or, you know, they see me. Yeah. You know, I don't think it was ever to get attention. I just, I've always been energetic and I just always wanted to like express that in a fun way.

With your mom working three jobs, did you feel like you couldn't get her attention? No. That's what I'm saying, bro. Like that type of stuff, like the divorce, my mom working all the time i think that affected my siblings bro nothing this is the part that you're the youngest yeah you're too normal to be on this podcast dude i was even i was even true we're like no everything's because it's parents divorced dude i was even molested that didn't even affect me you got a molested yeah dude that didn't even affect me really i came out okay you can't just say you got molested all right i won't say

it skip over this i don't want to go into detail oh man i don't want to go into all the details you said it i know dude but like you know that's true you did bring it out i did bring it up so i wasn't molested actually actually. How old were you? Just give me three questions. Three? It's probably like five. Five.

Was it a relative or a stranger? Relative. You're the youngest, though, right? Yeah, yeah. So I wonder, do you think there's something... Oh, you never got molested? Oh, dude, I got touched, that's for sure? Yeah, yeah So I wonder if it Do you think there's something Oh, you never got molested? Oh, dude, I got touched That's for sure

Yeah, but not like fucked No, I did not get fucked Okay That's still dramatizing Not really That's what I'm saying, dude It really didn't affect me Like, you know

I feel for people that it did But I'm just like Dude, I came out on top Dude, all these things I mentioned with like my folks My dad And getting diddled I'm good

Yeah When did you start having sex? 13 Did you come to them? He told us all these things I mentioned with my folks, my dad, and getting diddled. I'm good. When did you start having sex? 13. Did you come to them? He told us. He told me yesterday, but he wasn't paying attention. You weren't paying fucking attention. I was like, wait, run it back. He was like, huh?

Yeah. Oh, crazy. Yeah, yeah. Classic. Now he's listening. I'm listening now. This is the one time when you have Andy's focus. It's on the podcast.

Yeah, it's good. We're in for a thousand. Yeah. And you were saying how you found out about your band name and i wasn't paying attention to that either so won't you say it again oh do you know what my fan he obviously wasn't paying attention no that's what i was saying you should tell me your producer name no yes so like whenever whenever like i do interviews for like blogs or whatever like some of them are terrible yeah this is this is good but like this is fun you know long form it's not a you know we're not

professionals we're just we're just boys being boys yeah but like you know american made yeah dude hell yeah red white and true dude not running the colors not running never never but anyway so like whenever somebody asked me a stupid question i'll just lie yeah you know like this one girl's like where'd you get the name taboo and i was like well my whenever i was younger my uncle molested me he told me i couldn't tell my parents because it was very taboo and i thought that was really cool right so there we go and they're just like like i think that's the thing you just love love fucking with people. I love fucking with people. Dude, all the fans come up to me. I'll be in crowds like, are you Taboo? I'm like, who?

Taboo, who? He's a different guy with a mullet. I'm like, I haven't heard of him. He's cool. Did you market your stuff with the mullet, or is this a new look? It's a new look, man. I've been growing it for about a year. Looks good.

Yeah, man. It's a slight cut. I do not. it goes with the blue collar base tour for sure dude it honestly just goes with me like as soon as i did it as soon as i did it i was like bro this is the haircut i was always supposed to have this is the first time you've had a mullet like you didn't have one growing up i had one growing up yeah um but like i mean just like being older you know i, I feel powerful. Are you uncircumcised?

I'm circumcised. I ain't got the foreskin. Do you have foreskin? No, I'm Jewish. They cut it off. They have a bris. Yeah, we have a ceremony. Jews have a ceremony when the baby's born within a few weeks.

I just always think it's like a party. Everybody's circumcised everywhere. You guys took us over with that. Yeah, dude. I mean, I don't want to keep it clean for y'all. I don't know, dude. I haven't seen an uncircumcised penis, but if my buddy had one, I'd be like, dude, I got to see it. Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen one in person. That's what I'm saying. I want to see it in person. Sounds weird to say I saw one as a kid, but I remember I remember at camp, it was like the JCC day camp. Jewish camp had an uncircumcised dick? Well, he was Russian.

Oh, okay. I respect that. But he was from Russia, but younger. And I just remember seeing him. We were like, whoa, crazy. What's going on? What's the deal? Because we didn't know.

We were like probably six or seven. Oh, man. That probably was traumatizing. Yeah. I feel bad for that kid because people were like picking on him and shit. It's like a fucking hungry hippo inside that thing. Yeah, it's an anteater. Yeah, it's like an oversized turtleneck.

That might be my first memory. Actually scratch Epcot. It might be. Well, yeah, we're not haters of the uncircumcised. That's all the uncircumcised. I don't agree with you, Andy. haters of the uncircumcised. That's all the uncircumcised. I don't agree with you, Andy. If you're uncircumcised, I'll fucking fight you on the site. You're unclean. Yep, yep. Disgusting.

Women don't like you. Oh, my God. Wow, what a podcast. Pretty good. I thought this is exceeding my expectations. You ever worked in a restaurant, dude? No. It's the worst. Dude, all they do is fuck, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You ever worked in a restaurant, dude? No, it's the worst. Dude. All they do was fuck man. Really? Yeah, bro. Straight up. I worked, I was, I was in the service industry for a while, dude. And you just go, it was this pizza joint in Mississippi called

soul Sean pizza. Fucking great pizza, best pizza in Mississippi. Like shout out to social. They're great. Do you not? And it was a fun a fun job dude but i would just slay really you're in the back or front where you're not like on the clock dude but just in general what i was i was a cook i was a cook but like who would you slay any any girl that was close to my age co-workers man co-workers that's what workers if you go to a restaurant all the people working they're each other yeah Would you ever have a vasectomy? Dude, yeah, man. I actually thought about it for a while, man. I thought about it.

Actually, the support on my tour, Toadface, he just got a vasectomy. How old is he? 26. Oh, he likes blowing loads. He's like, I don't want to have kids. I'm trying to bang. Do you think he beats off to cream pie? What's that?

It's when you come inside, like porn, where the men come in the girl. Well, the question is, who doesn't? Who doesn't jerk into that? I fucking love cream pie. Yeah, dude. You got to beaut that. That's like a specific...

I fucking love... After you just said cream pie. And they're like, imagination little debbie's i mean cream pie fat cock like is that it you are such an angel no i didn't know that that was a specific kind of porn that you're just like i want to see somebody come inside of this yeah i have a porn all right i got it it's where they got it i got it all right what do us. I got the topic for us. Have you guys fucked with Chatterbait? Do you know that site? Well, this company, Volume.com, created Chatterbait. Who's the sponsor?

Who's on our network? Wow. I never heard of it, though. What is Chatterbait? It is a pornographic website. It's just pretty much like people on cams. And they have... You can just... It'ss. And they have, and there's like a, there's, you can just, it's

free. Or you can like make a login and do tokens or something and get, and essentially incentivize people to go harder on the cam. And there's like thousands of people all over the world. You can just click on whatever. I got friends who work on that site actually. Dude, I'm sure

that like anyone could make money doing doing this shit anyway it's it seems like it's popular but it also seems like it's like kind of underground but you can like control the devices yeah if a woman has like uh like they'll have like a dildo that is on bluetooth and the more that they'll set levels of like if you tip 50 coins this happens if you tip and people start doing weird stuff and it turns up the thing or they have machines that are like,

it's just like a dildo that's going like this. I'm fucking freaked out. No, it's not a Sibian. It's literally a dildo on a fucking dolly. Shout out to women. They are the best. I fucking love women. Not intuitive.

Just the technology in this web that's been built around this is like... Innovative. That's a turn on. It's innovative. They're innovating every day. Anyway... No dudes like getting paid millions of dollars to beat off. That's not true actually.

I'm sure there's someone. No. Yeah. I'm sure there's crazy. I mean, they have literally every... there's tabs for every different kind of like couples singles men women trans whatever you know the highest google i don't know if there's a cream theory open chatterbait you know the highest uh pay in like porn for like you know just normal porn unless you're like a star the highest amount of money that you can get doing porn is if you're a straight man doing gay porn. Oh, I've heard that.

I think it's like one-third or one-fourth of men in gay porn are actually straight. You didn't know that? I worked at a porn house when I was a kid because I grew up in the valley in LA, and I lived in a mansion house. I was a security guard when I was like 19. So they'd shoot porn at the house, and you were security. when i was like 19. so they'd shoot porn they'd shoot porn at the house and you were security i was security yeah and i'd live at the house all summer see this is some that would have happened to him if he grew up in

l.a it was great but he grew up in mississippi they don't have that's where i got hpv though i had it i mean that's fancy cool it was pretty cool yeah people dream you dream i worked at a gas station no i got dirty like dirty. You're living in all people's come bro. You think that's dirty, dude. I fucking worked some weird jobs just to get by when I was young. I worked at a truck bedliner business and Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Dude, my buddy opened it up. He thought it was going to be a money making scheme and he had the fucking setup to make all the money he wanted to. And he didn't know dick about truck bedliners, but we're in this warehouse in Baton Rouge.

What's a truck bed liner? So, like, you know, the bed of the truck, like the material. A semi-truck. No, like a bed of a truck. Okay, sorry. Yeah, they spray it down. So, the thing is,

so, we were in the hood in a warehouse in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, in the middle of summer with no AC. And the biggest thing that can fuck up bed liners is moisture. So you have to wear a bodysuit in the summer and you're sitting there scrubbing all the dust and dirt out of bed liners. And that thing would fuck up

and every day would get to work. Something was stolen or broken into, dude. Just sweating as much as you possibly could for 12 hours a day in the summer, dude. Like that's dirty. A little bit of cum, dog. Fucking cum on my face, dude, like that's dirty. A little bit of cum, dog. Fucking cum on my face, dude. Like that's easy.

I respect. I respect that. I respect that. American made. American made man. This man is America. You got anything else you want to ask? This is pretty amazing.

I think this is, I don't know. I don't have anything. I have no more questions for this man. I think you're. I have a question for all of us. Okay. What's the weirdest thing you've jerked off to? Maybe it's not even that weird, but

how far into it have you gone? I've gotten pretty deep into a rabbit hole like last week. This is a great Andy question. Yeah, perfect Andy question. I'll tell you what, dude. I did learn one night that I ain't freaky. You ain't as freaky as you think you are until you meet a real freak, dog. I got fucking...

That's true. I think I got damn... I felt violated one night, dude. What happened? Alright, dude, it's a fucking it's a vile story. Alright, I don't mind. Alright, we're here. So, I'm in damn Richmond,

Virginia. That's where I'm from. Yeah, well, they got some fucking nasty whores out there. But, uh, They got some fucking nasty whores out there. I'm joking. But, so I met this gal, and she brings me back to her house. We're about to get it on. And you know how, like, girls will have, like, a drawer with, like, toys or some shit? Yeah.

This bitch had a treasure chest. And, like, it opened up and had, like, multiple, like, things that popped out with it. So she pulls out this butt plug. I thought it was for her. Wrong. Wrong. So she fucking dips this thing in like some jelly or oil. And the next thing you know, it's in me.

Like just like that. What? I just met her, dude. And this isn't even where. You didn't even ask. Hold on. Did you like antagonize that you were a freak? Dude, yes.

Okay. So you thought you said you were getting. You're saying some freaky shit. I know. But you got to work up to were a freak dude yes okay so you thought you said you're getting you're saying some freaky shit i know but but you gotta work up to being a freak right like you know maybe i was just like i'm trying to get freaky i don't know but that ain't even where it gets wild the traditional sense of freaky yeah so this thing's in me this thing's in me and so and the next thing you know she pulls out like this belt and it's like this thing like this little finger gun that's just like sitting there rubbing her and then so she had that she had like this like strap-on thing on her body

to where like the more she moved the more it choked it was like a ball gag too and then yes dude and then so and then she had a dildo so while i'm fucking her I'm sitting here shoving this dildo in her ass while choking her and her hands wrapped around fucking pulling this butt plug in and out of me. And I am terrified. Yeah. It sounds like Twister. Were you guys playing? You're not having fun. Did you come?

Dude, I came. My goal was to come as fast as possible so I can get the fuck out of there. And I did. And she was pissed bro i'm talking about she was yelling at me did she even ask you if she could before she did no dude and because i was literally like i literally felt like i was violated i felt like a piece of meat yeah and dude but literally like she was like yelling she was yelling at me like furious that i just came but i was just like this is entirely too much i'm gonna go she's like yeah get the out of my house holy shit part of town you were in

dude well after that i'm a rich man man i'm a rich man no more i'm not going back i've gone back to richmond but dude i'm you know i'm i'm on alert dog you know what i mean yeah i hear that well that was the night i learned out i ain't a freak dude so like all my experimentation i think i got it off the way in that one night i had um yeah i was hooking up with a girl from lafayette why is everything happening all the freaky girls are in the south that is a true dude dude man out there in louisiana man they some laugh yeah she she basically um she's like she's like i like aggressive sex i just want you to know that. I'm like, oh, cool.

I'm like, I'm not going to do that. But then she started like, no, she's like, I get turned on by punching guys. And she started punching me in the face, punching me. I'm like, and she's like biting my cheek. I'm like, I was kind of crying. Like I had a couple of tears in my eyes. Like, ow. Shit ain't cool, bro.

It ain't cool. Yeah bro it ain't cool yeah it ain't cool and she got punching me i'm like damn this is some like serious issues and then like right when i started crying like i cried a little bit she came whoa that's your first sexism right there that's all that is i get worried about women getting too freaky dude i had this girl one day, she goes, I want you to cut me. And I'm like, cut you like with my dick. And she's like, no, with a knife. I'm like, no, no, no. I'm not doing any of that. She goes, I want you to cut me. I literally said with my dick, like, I'm like, I'm like, cool. Then I, we

don't have to have sex. What are we talking about here? Wow. What a fucking podcast. Can we pray? What a podcast. I knew it. I knew that it would be, thank you. Everything. Thank you for this dude. I'm like worked up right now. Like I'm just going into these fucking, you said great podcast. I'm going into my darkest memories here. You're asking what am I insecure about? I had to get a little bit of the darkness in there. What am I insecure about? Getting touched. Getting a butt plug in your ass. Did you like it?

Did it feel good? Dude, listen. I'm okay with butt stuff. You can put a finger in me, but we got to work up to it, dude. I literally thought that was for her, but in a second, that thing's just in me, dog. Before I even realized what was happening. You didn't say no. You just let it happen?

Dude, listen. Here's the thing. I think that God has a plan for everybody. And that night, I was wondering maybe that was his plan for me. God's plan. I'm also ain't scared of shit.

I ain't scared of a fucking thing. My dad didn't raise no quitter. My mom taught me better. All these things come into account where I'm like, fuck i'm gonna see it through you're not scared of dying hell nah i'll die right now dude on this podcast i'm really not i'm really not as like scared to die dude like if i die if i die tomorrow dude i'm really happy with the life i had and i'm really lucky for the people i had in it are you competitive extremely so what if you lose for the people I had in it. Are you competitive?

Extremely. So what if you lose? Lose what? Like if you... What the fuck are you talking about, dude? Like lose getting something in me? Like lose it in my asshole? I see where he's going.

No, but I'm saying like what... I know, it's the DJ championship. Say like you don't make it to your dream of being the ultimate DJ or being the ultimate comedian. You'd be cool with that? That's not an option. Yeah. The thing is like...

I'm kind of fucking illiterate i feel like so like um but i've always been naturally talented at you know music you know that was and my mom saw that like my siblings super fucking smart really good at school i'm dyslexic as the shit fucking add as hell right and my mom like found out when i was really young that i could do music. So she really was like, yeah, lean into that. I love it.

And so, like, there's no backup plan here, dude. Like, this is, I'll die doing this. I literally will die for it. Like, I'm literally. He's a lifer. I love it.

I'm willing to die for this, dude. That's a great, that's a great, great answer. And you will. I probably will. And you will today. Off the bat. Thank you guys so much you guys blow my brains out. What a podcast. Mitch, thank you for being on the show. Jeremy, thank you for fucking bringing this. Thanks for trusting me. I did. You know,

trust in me. Hey, listen, I want to thank you for being, you know, actually having a conversation today, you know, being alert and aware. Yeah. It just takes me recording for a thousand people. Nah, man, I really do appreciate you coming on my show, man. I'd love to have you on my podcast. Yeah, anytime, man. I know I'm not a producer, but that's fine. I mean, I don't have just producers

on the show, man. You know, podcasts literally can just like, sometimes I'll have podcasts with people I've already had on and we're not talking about music. My favorite podcast is when we don't talk about music. We just bullshit, talk about the weirdest things we've jerked off to. That's funny to me.

You know, that's the fucking, that's entertainment, dude. Well, we learned a lot about you today, Mitch, and I can't wait to learn more.

Hopefully we can be friends. Yeah, dude, I'd love that, man. I'm in. I've been a big fan of you for a while. I've seen you a couple times in my lifetime. So this is cool as shit,

dude. Like I said, man. This is cool, man. I love it. Alright. Go have fun and be safe. You're about to blow up. You're kind of blowing up now, but it's going to happen for you. Keep level-headed and keep America proud. Remember your roots. I'm going to let it go to my head and I'm just going to

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