Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 208: Phil Hanley (Comedian)

Episode Date: February 28, 2023

Wait up. Hold the phone. We have to talk about a certain premonition from last week right here at the top of the show. Question: Andy Frasco- How does he do it? Answer: Beau Bilinski. Simple as all that. And on the Interview Hour we got a very funny comedian, Phil Hanley! Comedians and musicians have more in common than you'd think. Long nights and even longer day drives. Maybe even dyslexia.  Also like musicians, comedians love it when you come see them in a town near you: philhanley.com And don't forget to catch the band in a town near you andyfrasco.com/tour Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out Andy Frasco & The U.N. (Feat Little Stranger)'s new song, "Oh, What A Life" on iTunes, Spotify  Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Ahri Findling Arno Bakker

Previously on the podcast. But Andy is going to see this as a blessing. And it's going to set the course for your life going forward. Andy's child. Oh my God. Yep, it's going to happen this year. What the fuck? Andy, let mom choose the kid's name, okay?

Let mom? I don't, what the fuck? Welcome back to another episode of Review. I'm your host, Ari Finling. Today, I am reviewing fatherhood. I'm talking about becoming a father, not some shitty fucking TV show on TNT or TBS. Let me first say that my daughter is the greatest thing that has ever happened to me. Now, having said that, what the fuck did I get myself into? I haven't slept more than three hours a night since she was born. I'm running on like 60 fucking ounces of coffee a day, which my doctor says will literally stop your heart. My daughter pisses and shits like she's a fucking horse.

I should have named her fucking Barbaro or Seattle Slew. The other day, I swear to God, I went to smell her diaper and she fart farted, and a little bit of shit got in my mouth. No one preps you for how to handle your daughter shitting in your mouth. But when she looks at me and smiles, ooh, boy, that'll melt your heart. This has been Review. I'm your host, Ari Finling. Good night. Yeah.

There we go. And we're back. Andy Frasco's world-saving podcast. Hey, hey, hey. I'm Andy Petty Frasco. Yeah, back. Andy Frasco's World's Saved Podcast. Hey, hey, hey. Andy Petty Frasco. Yeah, Andy P. Frasco. Andy P. APF. Mitch.

Your real middle name is Mitch, isn't it? Yeah. Drew Mitch. Maybe when I'm done with music, I could just be called Mitch. When you're like a mechanic. Like an old man. Mechanic in Calabasas. Hey, Mitch.

Ah, your Porsche's fuel pump went out. You were going to Porsche dealership in Calabasas, but you talk like that for some reason. Mitch, I've been looking at your Porsche here. It's going to cost about a 10 grand to fix the fuel pump on that thing. We haven't got to fly it over from Germany. How's your heart? How's your minds? People, Nick girl, like my cohost. God damn it. I'm listening to you Speaker 2 and a half. Speaker 0 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 50, 41, 42, 45, 46, 47, 48, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 42, 45, 46, 47, 48, 42, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 49, 49, 50, 51, 51, 52, 52, 52, 52, 53, 52, 53, 54, 54, 55, 54, 55, 56, 56, 56, 56, 57, 57, 58, 59, 51, 52, 53, 56, 57, 58, 59, 51, 52, 53, 56, 57, 59, 52, 53, 59, 52, 53, 56, 57, 59, 52, 53, 56, 57, 58, 59, 52, 53, 56, 57,

53, 59, 52, 53, 56, 57, 59, 52, 53, 56, 57, 59, 52, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, 53, though he'll, he'll is a life that most people can only dream of. Oh, what an opening to a podcast. We got a fun ass comedian on the show. Speaker 2 and Lee. I like him a lot. I can too. I saw him on another podcast. I believe with Tom Segura, I can't remember. Lexic or dialectic. Oh my God. Dyslexic. Oh, that's pretty funny that you may. I feel like you do have something with that. I do, but you read fine. But like, I wonder if there's a version of dyslexia where it's like you don't pronounce things correctly. There probably has to be. Wait a second. Am

I been acting like a little bit still morning? Yeah. Well not the whole morning, but at least the last 20 minutes, half hour. I got to work on that. Well, it's your manager calls you and you immediately go into bitch mode. You're immediately on guard. You're like a cat outside, like a stray cat. Speaker 2 in the back of his head. Sometimes when he calls me, he's like, so what'd you do this time? Why am I getting a call from a manager saying you were going to give this band X show in Denver? Speaker 3 in the back of his head. First of all, he should know. He should know that

anything a manager says to him that you said he should just cut it in half. And that's because the manager's doing their job because they're a salesman and they should be lying. The manager's job is basically to lie without lying. You know what I'm saying? They're lawyers. They're there. You know what I mean? There. And then the, and maybe the booking agents more like a used car salesman, you know, then brand came in at 10 AM like a bad out of hell. Yeah. She does everything like a bad out of hell. That's why she's a good bartender. The only guy that just keeps me mellow. Keep me vibing his Boba Linsky. You do too. I keep you honest more than I keep you mellow. Yeah. You keep me mellow. He keeps me honest. You are such a bitch though.

Oh, well, Hey, is your mommy coming soon? Yeah. She comes this week. Like when she comes on Thursday and then you're going to Bruce or no. No, we got, we got Bruce Springsteen tickets at the ball arena at the ball arena. Hi. Hey, yeah, we got a dog. Can you see him on the camera? Hey Denzel. This is my, well, we can't really say his name yet because we haven't fully adopted him in case people are watching. So Denny. Um, yeah,

that's my dog. Yeah. He said he was going to adopt. He was going to foster it. Get on that. Get on the couch. He's too cool. Come on,

get up here. There you go. All right. So welcome. God, I've been, no, no.

See you guys. See, is it what he's been doing? You know what it is though? I'm so nice to people all the fucking time. And when they're not nice to me and I just have to fucking, I have to like just take it. I'm just like, I'm just, I'm done just being happy, being nice to people who don't deserve nice. Speaker 2 and Speaker 3 of 4

Speaker 1 who's been mean to you lately? Oh, that drug go there. The Facebook drug group was pretty fun the other day. They protected me. A lot of those guys did. There's only two guys who were just, one guy was like this one guy after you too. Oh, he was just cause like, I w I was like, he's just a loser though. Like I was just like a card carrying loser. We said, we're not going to talk shit. We haven't really talked that much. How's your heart? It's good. Speaking of hearts, how was the wedding you went to? Oh, that was fucking awesome. I'll take a star studded affair. It was probably the most star studded event. It was the biggest celebrity. My friends were there that I got

invited to. I've ever been to. It was the biggest famous celebrity there. Is there anybody crazy? I had a conversation with Zach Brown. I had country singer. Yeah. Isn't he massive? Yeah. It's huge. Aren't. Dan, our back from black keys was there. Oh wow. Yeah. They're all good. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I the world right now. Maybe. Yeah. Um, uh, Dan Auerbach from black keys was there. Oh wow. Yeah. They're all Riley's family. I didn't really know them, but they were really nice. Yeah. Yeah. It was a really nice event and

it was just such extravagant event. Yeah. It was at like the Nashville symphony and holy shit. Everyone's wearing cowboy hats and it was, did you work out? Well, you need a cowboy hat. I did buy, I wore my, I bought some Gucci glasses. How much were they? 300 bucks. I got them for a good deal. I'm not going to watch in like a week. There's going to be some Gucci ad. It's like pedophile. That's my thing. Every time I buy a designer brand, they just turn into a pedophile. They get in trouble for something. That'd be so fucking funny. But yeah, it was nice. I went with Aaron Ray. Um, they sat in me next to Maggie Rose, which is nice. I love her. She's the best. She's such a spirit.

Yeah. I love her very much. She's got an amazing voice. Yeah. And she's just a good person. Check her out. She works hard. She really does work her. All the guys switched up her band a little bit. I think I really loved it. And you know who was really saying some really fucking nice things. It was Nigel hall. Oh yeah. Yeah. We were starting to become tight. I had a good talk with him at mission. Benny too. They're like, man, we went to your jam crew show and that was, that was real special. They respect things if they're done well, even if it's not their thing. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, they do like I'm freeze or something. Yeah. Like, yeah. So, so star studded. They had a tattoo artist so you could get tattoos at like a real tattoo. Not like

not one that like fades out like a real tattoo artist. Did people do it? Yeah. It was like, I'm surprised you didn't get one. I wanted to, but the waiting list was like two hours. Holy shit. And it was starting to drink vodka sodas and, Oh, you can't really get a tattoo with alcohol in your blood. I thought you're not supposed to at least, but there are micro tattoos. Like, Oh, they're little guys get a full back dad at the wedding. Marcus King forever. King for King me was his band there. Yeah. I'm kind of buddies with his sex, but yeah, his band was, it was cute. They're all the best men. Oh, it was cute. Yeah. That was cute actually. Yeah. It was really nice. He got married young. He's 25. How old is he? But it was pretty wild. You know, they did the pre-party

at Brooklyn bowl and that one was, everyone was getting a little looser before the, so at between the wedding and the reception, you all went to Brooklyn bowl. Oh, that's cool. So it was a shoe and the shit drinking. Oh, Larkin Poe was there. Oh yeah. Star studded. Damn. Yeah. It was pretty, I was like, why the fuck am I here? Cause you're getting kind of famous. You're more famous than a lot of people you just mentioned. Oh, thanks. Zach. Brian, Zach Brown, Zach Brown. Oh, Zach Brown. Yeah. Not Zach. Brian. Oh, Zach Brown. Yeah. Chicken fry a little metal hole. And I like him because he hired, he has my friends to be his horn

section. So I like him. Yeah. He's a good guy. I had a good conversation with him. I like when other people get hired to play horns with famous guys. I love that. I like him. Yeah, he's a good guy. I had a good conversation with him. I like when other people get hired to play horns with famous guys. I love that. I like it. I didn't take mushrooms on this, um, at this wedding. Yeah. They don't have mushrooms in Nashville. Do they? I brought some, but I was kind of like I was with that. No, you didn't. You found them there. You didn't fly with mushrooms. Yeah. Um, but uh, me and Brian, I took Aaron Ray. She was sweet. Yeah. I checked out some of her music i liked it yeah she's really i mean she's a star she'd be cool to have on the pot again because she kind of came in the before times yeah now that we're a little closer i could start i think it'd be i

think it's it's time to maybe have some before times people come on again yeah now that we're it's been a couple years now i'll just try i looked it up it's 2021 yeah yeah i'll get some more people you know it's like just a redo yeah Yeah. A lot of other pods do that. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but Nashville was fun. Then I flew to New York. I did the same thing as paying a fancy wedding. By the way, I played a new conscious and then I went to New York and film music video. Oh yeah. I saw you were in full drag. Yeah. I was in full drag. Look great actually. Yeah. That looked pretty. Yeah. You look good. I thought I just had sex with girls less attractive than that. Oh man, you should get all that crazy. I haven't slept in a couple of days. What are you not even home? Oh, I slept last night, but it's

just been like 5 00 AM flights. Oh that. Yeah. Maybe you should go to bed tonight at like eight. It's Friday night. Yeah. So I'm going out your every night of your life. It's a Friday night. I know, but I'm in Denver for two days. Why don't you stay in and go out tomorrow and just have a double good time tomorrow? No. Cause if I do that, then I'm like full bender. If I know that I'm going to like drink for two days in a row, I don't really care what you're going to do. What are you going to do tonight? What's going on? Um, I might just be at Cervantes like I always go. I played there like 18 times in the last few months.

Yeah, you didn't want to come with me tonight. I'm going to go tomorrow for what's his face? What? Marimba Man. What's his name again? Oh, Mike Dillon. Yeah. That'd be fun.

I always accidentally call him Mike Patton. Yeah. We should have had him come over and do the pod. Yeah. Oh, I should have called him. He's a wild man. Maybe he'll come over tomorrow. the pod. Speaker 2 in the back. Yeah. Oh, I should have called him. He's a wild man. Maybe he'll come home tomorrow.

Isn't he a wild man? Yeah. He's done the pop before. Speaker 1 in the back. Speaking of things that Mellie, you out dialed in gummies, dotting gummies. Go get yourself a dialed gummies. If you're in the Colorado area, it's live rosin, live rosin. I love it.

I mean, I really have been smoking way less weed. You have. Yeah. Like barely any because people in Nashville don't smoke weed because they're happy. I was hanging out with Chris Galbuta. That guy's fucking insane. I like him a lot. I love him so much.

He's a good man. Man, he's so honest. And we were just shooting the shit. And I'm like, I relate to you, bro. He's like, I relate to you, too. He's a good songwriter. He's one of the best out there. Yeah.

But I was telling him about dotting gummies. I gave him a batch of that. And I was like, these are good for creativity. And they are. Cause it's like, I like taking a quarter. If I'm going to be creative, I like taking a full one if I'm going to bed and I like how you can know exact dosage of how much you need because it's a mod. Yeah. So you know what you're getting yourself into. So grab yourself some dotting gummies. Yeah, baby. Even boat took a little mushroom today how you feel that thing what like a pill they're cool it's like 0.25 what is it a pill i have this delicious i got someone gave me a plumber no like someone gave me this like delicious chocolate bar it's like

strawberry cream mushroom and you should have a couple i will try i think i might go once this podcast i'm gonna go uh take a little bite and look at some trees. No, you have to have a meeting first that we can't talk about. I got to have a fucking meeting, yeah. And not a fun one. I know, but I'm going to be honest in it. Yeah, but that's not fun. Being honest sucks. I know.

Why is honesty so hard? Because lying's fun. You can do whatever. I'm a pilot. See? I'm a pilot for American Airlines. Yeah. I've been working there for about 20 years.

Union. It's a good union gig. Great pension. Lying is so fun. That's way more fun. Lying is so fun. Also being incredibly honest with people to their faces also can be fun, but they don't like it as much. Yeah. At the wedding, I had to lie a little bit. Oh, what'd you do? Cause everyone's talking about their buses and their fuck. Oh yeah. Yeah. Me bus me go bus. Yeah. Me too, man. I got a bus too. Yeah too yeah we what if then your whole thing is then your whole podcast is about your spring yeah i rent my sprinter out to help pay for it when we're not using it you want a dialed in gummy you can have a dialed in gummy if you want. I love them. What else did you lie about? That was it? I was six,

two, maybe six, three. So chill. So grab yourself some dialed in gummies. Speaker 2 and Mark is Kings. Like I don't even need the yellow stone. I live in a post yellow stone career. Hell yeah. Well, that guy's got a voice on him. Did he say he's so good? Yeah. He sat in with the band. Nice. Dude. Nigel hall is the best. Well, that guy's got a voice on him. Did he say he's so good? Yeah. He sat in with the band. Nice. Dude. Nigel hall is the best. I low key. Have you listened to a solo album? It's so good. Yeah. It's amazing. But like, I didn't, I'd never seen him be like the front of a band, you know? Oh really? He wasn't at the keys. He was like right in front. Oh, he was like standing up and singing. It was fucking cool. That is

cool. Who played guitar? Krazy played a little bit. Krasno. Some super famous dude. I didn't know who he was. I probably would have been like, whoa! That happens a lot. You probably would have known. And then there's all these people you know. You're like, oh my God. I'm like, who? It's some singer-songwriter. Yeah. I was really stoked

about the dessert. What was it? It was so good. I loved it too, dude. It was like an empanada caramel oh my god i'm gonna gum i love sweets yummy yeah do you like what was the meal oh man they had all these fancy meals like dude fishes and chickens fish steaks yes she's aaron got a chicken I got a fish and we split both. Oh yeah, it was nice. Oh, and we were 30 minutes late to the wedding. Ooh, it was, that was not a good look. That was the ceremony. No, I was waiting outside for Aaron for 30 minutes. How long was the ceremony? Her Uber didn't show up. So she had to take her tour van to the wedding. I love it. Aaron

is so funny. You guys are so dorky with your no tour bus. We love it. We both, I think I've related to each other cause she has to drive that fucking tour buzzer tour bus for the day and had to drop you off. It was like, you like fit in, you know what I mean? So you just have some guy, how much like what? It's like a thousand bucks a day, right? Or something. I don't know. You wouldn't have to spend much on gas. You're just going to take it from your Airbnb or wherever you stayed to the fucking wedding. And then to the, I wonder how much they charge you for that. They'll be like, thanks bill. I'll be back at bus call 2 AM tomorrow's gig. Yeah. I'm just like you guys tour bus to, you just ran it to fit in at the wedding. You just have

this guy drop you off in a full looking, whatever they're called. I was kind of nervous. Actually, you could do that and just stay in it. Build your Airbnb cost into it. Yeah. So thanks for inviting me to your wedding. Marcus. That was really nice. Hell yeah. And if your saxophone player ever quit, hit me up. No, he's cool. I like Chris. This is cool. His dad is a killing. You know, his dad, no same name. He plays keys with like Eddie Roberts, a lot and honey Island swamp band and shit. Oh dope. Killing keyboard player. I have a voice. I sent a voicemail per se, but what happened? Somebody sent in a text message with like a question for us. This was supposed to be

a voicemail, but she was too scared that people would recognize her voice. Who is this? I don't know. She wouldn't say she's being secretive. When does this happen? I got it like a couple of days ago on the voice. Remember the voice? One thing you can do text to hi, Nick and Andy. Love you guys. And the podcast heart emoji wanted to leave you a voicemail, but didn't want anyone wanting anyone to recognize my voice. You said nothing was off limits. So there we go. I wanted to share something crazy that happened to me last weekend. And I also kept thinking, what would Andy and Nick say about this after six and a half years of being totally single 10 year relationship before that I have my first ever one night and morning fling. Ooh.

Okay. Okay. Girl, get it clean. I did. I did. That's all the same in Indiana. I did. I did it. Okay. And he's officially, but I've always looked younger than I am. He initiated it and pursued me. That's what made me think of this initiated and pursued me. So reverse grooming, we have talked for an hour in the bar and I tried to discourage him by telling him I was quite older lady. Listen, you're not going to discourage a 22 year old guy by saying I'm an older woman with a ton of experience and I don't really care what happens after this. That's all that did was make him want to bring you home more. You what i'm saying hey hey i'm an older woman okay just so you know

you might not want to go a lot of experience just so you know i'm just a an older woman who lives by herself with a lot of experience and you know i'm not looking to get married or anything yeah yeah of course uh but well he kept asking to spend more time and he ended up coming to my hotel room and well fire emoji. The whole experience was like a dream. He was gorgeous. His body was amazing. I'm starting to think you hadn't got laid in a while before this. And I can't stop thinking about it, but also I feel like a terrible person because of the age difference. Don't you said he approached you also he's over 20. No. Also everybody, you know what? It is different when the women's older. I don't care what anyone says. What is the most looked at porn? Exactly. I'm not saying

it's not still bad, but it's much different when a 50 year old rich guys with like a 22 year old, I don't know. We are a cap. Rial is also different. He gets a pass cause he's too hot and rich. Anyway, once you're hot and rich enough, you can do whatever you want. His body was amazing and I can't stop thinking about it. Blah, blah, blah, blah. He lives five, six. Oh, I'm sure I'll never see him again. He lives five to six hours away, but I can't get him out of my head.

I'm trying to look at this as a sign telling me to put myself out there and try to start dating again, but how am I going to get this hot young guy out of my head? This was totally out of character for me, but honestly, if he called me, I would hook up with him in a heartbeat what's wrong with me i'm all up help first of all nothing's wrong with you first of all nothing's wrong with you i think this is empowering for her yeah first of all congratulations yes you're clearly hot get that dick like seriously give him a call give him a call i don't know don't give him call. I don't know if you got a phone number even because maybe it was just for that moment. Yeah. That's

okay too. One night stands are fine when you, if it's for the moment, that's fine. Why don't you text him and say, this is giving you confidence that you are a queen. Run him a hot, run him a short text. It does hit me up. If you're ever in town again, that's it. That's it. That's cute. Just put put the ball in his court but don't be too aggressive about it you're like if you want you know yeah but i like this because you know like a lot you know well you like this because it's an older woman a younger man yeah which is one of your favorite things on earth after the lakers i made love with a 55-year-old woman. Yep, we just talked about it three minutes ago.

I'm not in my young 20s. You were, though. You were like 18, 19, which is the same. 19 and 22 are the same thing. I mean, women are beautiful. What the fuck? I don't understand what she's worried about here. I think it's because women think when they get older they lose their beauty no way a lot of people get like that

that's society it's so up and women i think get prettier as they get older the way that yeah until a certain point and then it really falls off but uh don't say that the way society i'm just kidding that happens to everybody like i'm sorry an 80 year old woman is not anyway um uh you know it's just society the way we treat it's weird that we how we treat aging and i you know i hate just thinking about i hate old people as much as the next guy they're the worst right i mean they are terrible okay old people are the worst but they should get a little respect for just surviving fucking making it god damn it right there Right. There's fucking things washing up on the beach. There's things floating in the sky. There's pandemics. They'll be at war fucking aid. Yeah. Shout out to old people.

Yeah. Give it up for old people. You guys are fucking annoying though. Asking so many questions, learn how to rotate a PDF. Would you, but you know, but shout out for living so long. Yeah. You guys complain about people that are younger than you too much. I'm sure we'll do that too. And we're old. Yeah. Boomers think everything's everyone else's fault. Don't get me started on boomers. Oh, come on. How about this dog though? Such a great dog. This dog's a boomer and dog age. No, he's like 30 maybe. Oh, he's in his prime. He has, he's fucked a lot. You said, right? Yeah. He's used to be bread, but not, it wasn't like a shady breeding thing. He just was. And do you think we looked it up? He's got a fair share of kids out there. Get out there. What

do you think? Like the breeders like, Hey, you're going to keep coming until you can't come any longer. That's why he's so tired. He's like, all right, I'm going to pay for this. Look, what is it? He's just like, Oh Danny, I wonder what dogs think about and they think, I hope so. You think he's like thinking about mistakes in his past or yeah. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I hope so. This is a fun opening. Yeah. Well guys, thanks for cheering me up out of the petty party. Surround yourself with people that inspire you. That sounds like some Andy Fresco lyrics on the next single next year. Love who you are and be who you are and get some dick. I gotta get out of here. The hard way. The hard way. All right, guys. Goodbye. Bye, everybody.

Enjoy Phil Han. All right. Next up on the interview hour, we have comedian Phil Hanley. Yes. I love this dude. It runs perfectly parallel with our podcast because he's a diehard Grateful Dead fan too. Amazing comedian. They call him the king of crowd work. He's toured with everyone.

He's from Vancouver, and he's really into the jam scene. So I thought this would be a perfect parallel to get our listeners into Phil's comedy. So ladies and gentlemen, I think you're going to love this. We talk about everything. His growing up in Canada, he's dialectic. I keep fucking up that word, but you know what I'm saying. And he wrote a book about it. And he's going on tour, and he keeps on getting better and better as a comedian as the years go by. And I really think you're going to love this one. So, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the interview hour, Mr. Phil Handley.

What up, Phil? How you doing, buddy? Hey, man. Hey, Andy. Nice to see you. What happened today, bro? Speaker 2, it actually happened last night. I I'm in, I live in New York city. I was flying home to Vancouver. And it was one of those weird flights where they, everything got on, on time and everything, you're all like pumped to go. It was cause

it was flying to Canada. Everyone's like watching the uh canadian junior hockey team we're playing the stage yesterday but dude every every everyone's watching it i know everyone's like it's in order like beer and uh and then we just we remained on the runway for like the entire game and uh so we i long story short, we just got in a lot later than, a lot later than we were supposed to. Speaker 1 1. So are Canadians like, are they as aggressive as Americans when it comes to their 13 year old kid hockey teams and stuff? Speaker 2 1. Yeah. Like I would say, yeah. Like even more so like it's it it's funny i had stopped watching hockey i played hockey when i was a kid i probably stopped when i was like 10.

and then i stopped watching hockey and you know um up until that point you i'd watched it like you know through all the time and then i got back into it during the pandemic, I think, cause I couldn't leave the States and I got homesick and yeah, it is like, it was to see this flight. Everyone was watching it. Everyone was like, you know, into it when like, you know, when the, when it was scored, it wouldn't, it wasn't like cheering, but it was like, you know, very Canadian, like try to like remain calm, but it was very Canadian, try to remain calm, but everyone was like, yes. Yes, quiet. Yeah. It's so wild. How was life living in Canada and trying to be a comedian in Canada versus

having you move to America? What was the difference in transition? uh it was i so i started in uh i started in vancouver with the goal i watched it was like it's like my rocky that um the the jerry seinfeld documentary comedian yeah yeah watched that and uh in the theater and kind of like walked home at the time i had done a little bit of improv and stuff and then i saw that and i was like i want to be a comedian i want to live in new york city i want to work at the comedy cell like i want to like do everything that he did in that movie type thing yeah so uh yeah i just started so small i started just kind of doing open mics in vancouver and then um yeah i it's canada's funny in the sense that like it doesn't really in canada there's not like a lot of famous comedians or anything but if you go to the states and then come back you're certainly

more celebrated you know so you kind of start in canada especially in vancouver because we're so far from the other major cities it's just like it's to use a hockey analogy is you are you're like you're not in a rink you're like performing on a pond like a frozen pond with no you know what i mean yeah yeah the nhl is not a thing it's just you and your crew and um i was really lucky to start here at that time because yeah people aren't doing it with the hopes of you know really there's not like a ton and ton of aspirations it's really doing it for the love of you know going to these small open mics in vancouver and performing type thing so when did you get you didn't want why did you decide to go to new york instead of la because you're on the west coast dude i i know and i think about that a lot i just really i love new york and i grew up

i started vancouver i started comedy in vancouver my family had moved out but i grew up um just outside of toronto so i kind of grew up on the east coast and i had been to new york and absolutely adored it and needed a reason because as a canadian you can't just move to new york you need paper like work visas and all this stuff right and i thought hominy when i started getting you know somewhat uh competent i was like oh this could be my ticket to i finally get to live in new york yeah so that that was my goal but yeah living in uh being close to my family stuff like that would have been nice if i had a swung it in LA. Yeah, you know, it's because I grew up in LA and I'm touring and stuff.

I want to go over, we're definitely going to go over your fucking fascination with the jam scene too. We'll talk about that here pretty soon. Oh, cool. Okay. Because I grew up in LA and I feel like the comedians in LA, like one of my close friends is Todd Glass. You know Todd Glass? like the comedians in la like one of my close friends is todd glass you know todd glass oh i

one of my first touring experiences was open i don't know how i got so lucky but i last came to play uh victoria and and and courtney these two uh island like an island off of vancouver and i got to open for him and uh i i love uh tide glass so glass is like a national trend like he's just so funny yeah and a real villain so yeah i know i love todd glass so yeah he was telling me about like i feel like comedians if you want to do stand-up you know la isn't really the move if you want to be a writer la is the move but new york feels like you could really get your chops done you could do the comedy sellers you could do all you could go you could do like six six sets in a night in new york to really build your chops is that important

to you or as a comedian you got to build your chops right yeah that was everything like ev it was like everything for me i used to like just do whatever I could possibly do to get five spots in Vancouver a week. And that meant performing at like musical open mics that meant like just whatever I could do by any means necessary. I had to do five spots. And then I got to New York and yeah, you can do five spots in a night and you can do five spots if you no one knows you know like that's not just like colin quinn gets five spots that's like obviously the quality of the shows will be much different but you can do open you can do an open mic in the afternoon and then like you know you you can really just go as hard as you can and you're in you're among other

people that are going that hard like open micers that are like tenacious and you're in you're among other people that are going that hard like open micers that are like tenacious and you're going to all be doing all these spots so yeah that was really the appeal to New York for me part of it it's fascinating because I followed um I wrote I wrote the music for Gary Goleman's special a great depression and music was amazing oh thanks bro you did that yeah yeah every aspect of the great depression was phenomenal but i i remember the music i remember when he was driving into the city and stuff like that yeah yeah thanks bro yeah and i was like i followed him do his you know it's like it's so amazing even those guys who were just super just geniuses we'll go and do that i followed him through all three comedy sellers.

Then we went up to, you know, the upper West. Then we went down. I'm like, I feel like I'm touring New York city right now. This is fucking nuts. How did you, what was the transition between what you thought was funny in, in Canada versus what you, what Americans thought was funny in New York? Did you, was there a couple of hiccups there? Like what, or did you know? There are, I mean, there are little things, my, my material, especially at the time I was doing very concise kind of like set up punchline stuff. So the actual jokes translated, but there were little things like, and I'm, I'm extremely dyslexic, so I still get them mixed up, but like we say grade three and you guys say the third grade.

Is that correct? Yeah. But like it would baffle. I will say Canadians are better at adjusting. Like if I say in Canada, sometimes we say washroom and you guys say bathroom, right? Yeah, yeah. Right?

So bathroom, washroom. you could say either in Canada, people figure it, but I've said washroom in the States before. And I know some places in the States, some people are listening, but that's what we say. But I have like baffled someone at like a Buffalo wild drinks where I'm like, may I use your washroom? And they're just like, I don't think we have one of those rooms. So yeah, like certain words, like little things like that.

Or I would get an addition and I would say sorry. And they wouldn't be like, no, you got to say sorry. Sorry if you're like little things. But material wise, I was lucky. Things kind of translated. And it changed my style a lot, especially eventually I got to New York and I worked and worked and worked. And when I got into the cellar, it like the cellar, like the comedy style is almost like it's almost like the like it's almost like the Ramones. Like it's like so quick, like better, like you just get on top of the crowd and you punch line, punch line.

You move very fast. Right. And then working the cellar and then coming back to Vancouver and my friends here just being like, dude, you're like, you're, you're pacing is so different because you just want to get, you, you follow a towel or someone and you're like, I got to get on this and just rattle it, you know, get the jokes. It's like, um, a real pacing thing. The route in the room is so tight. You want to just hit them hard and quickly, you know, get the jokes. It's like a real pacing thing.

And the room is so tight, you want to just hit them hard and quickly, you know? Yeah, and it's so funny, like, you know, it's like, it really feels like a basketball, I'm into sports, you're into hockey, right? So it really feels like a basketball tournament or a sports tournament where everyone's all in the same room. They're all kind of like, you know,

they'll be friendly with you, but everyone wants to kill, you know? And it must makes you feel like, oh, I can't fuck this up. Tell me about your first time going to the comedy cellar. Who was on the list? Were you nervous? What were you shitting yourself? Give me it all. I was so, so I was on the road.

I was working with a comic named Kevin Brennanannan and he i remember this is how like green i was at one point during the weekend he called david tell and it would like it blew my mind that i knew someone that like was talking to david tell in the fall like it was wild to me and he said to me he watched my act and he said i think uh st who's the woman that books the cellar, he's like, I think you'd like your act. So I'll vouch for you. And then I waited a full year to just get the vibe of New York City and do all the rooms and kind of really, I did a full year. And then I said, okay, I'll take the audition.

And now a lot more people audition. There's just a lot. They have like four venues now at the Cellar and so many shows. But back then it was still only a few people a year really were getting passed. And I remember my edition was at like 1030 on like a Friday and I was so nervous. It was one of those like, you know,

when you have something big in a day and you wake up and your first thought is like, I was just like that all day all day pacing figuring and then the process is daunting because uh esty stands in the doorway you're on stage and she you do about five minutes and when she when she's seen enough you hit the light as she will have the like the host kind of light you or whatever so you just like going you know it's about five minutes and then and then you will get the light as she will have the like the host kind of light you or whatever so you just like going you know it's about five minutes and then you will get the light and then i came up and she was very uh you know it seemed you know you can just kind of tell if someone's laughed been laughing or whatever and um yeah so i did that and then going from like struggling for five spots a week in vancouver i remember my first weekend at the Comedy Cellar, I got 13 spots and I just couldn't believe it.

It was like, she texted me my spots. It was like one of the most, it was one of the greatest feelings of mine. It felt like such a huge victory and it had been such a long, you know, so many logging camps in the Rockies here in Canada and all these like terrible gigs. Yeah, it was such a beautiful feeling to to

addition and then you get your you get your um your sets like the following monday and it yeah it was uh i was like so moved it was amazing let's go phil that's inspiring dog let's go i love it because everyone i talk to about sd is like they're so intimidated by her when they first meet her like what is it about s you know because she basically can control if you get to play the best room in new york city so she probably is nicer than everyone you know when you first think of her head you know like he's so nice she's so nice but it but it's i think beyond her it just represents and it's not only like the comedy sellers daunting to a comic cause you're like, you sit there and you're like, oh, Patrice O'Neill, like

busted balls here. And, uh, you know, like just the history at the table and all the people that are there and like, right. When are people that you looked up to are on those shows? Like, and it's a wild place. i have i'm i'm not exaggerating i once followed amy schumer who brought madonna on stage and then please welcome to the stage from vancouver british columbia phil and like it's just like i followed i'm like in the doorway watching and madonna is on stage like it's it's it's it's insane the things that um happen there and become you know normal like there's that famous show that was like who was it was like kevin hart was it kevin hart dave chappelle chris rock jerry

seinfeld david tell like yeah that was oh, people sat down and they were like, one after another. And I think Aziz was, like, it was, it's a wild, wild place. And it's still, the beauty of it's still there. Like, CBGB's is gone. Fillmore East is gone, you know. There's all these things, and it's still there. And it's still in its prime. I remember five years ago thinking like these are the good old days and now we're like,

no, it's still in the same place. It's still those guys, those people are still coming. Amy is still coming in to work on new stuff. It's weird. I'm sure with music venues you get that where it's like when so much amazing has occurred in a room yeah you can feel it or something it creates like a vibe even like during the day with the lights on and you can still just like oh this is like hollow ground you know yeah i felt that when i when i first headlined fillmore west i was like i could feel you you know, Jimmy and I could feel the dead in here.

It's just, yeah, that's my dude. That's one of my absolute dream venues. I've only been there during the day I was there. There was, it was, they were having a grateful dead New Year's Eve party, maybe like five years ago. Right. And, uh, my friend works for live nation and she took me in and it was like all

like the dead backdrop, like just the stuff that i'd seen since i was a kid on like videos like the dead like the giant steely and then like portraits of jerry and yeah that's my dream venue that must have been incredible oh it's amazing before i before we get to the dead i got one more thing what's going on what's going through your fucking head when you see the lineup you see schumer you see i'm like how do you pump yourself up do you go to like the stuff that you know is gonna kill or do you like you know like i feel like you love jam music because of the improv and stuff and because of this spontaneous energy that comes to what the dead brought to the community how do you what do you how do you how do you how do you set your mind straight saying that I'm going to fucking kill this thing?

Well, I mean, I have a stock line that always works, which was a riff. You know, I would say like, say if it's like Aziz, then Amy, and then I'm closing the show. I always go like, first Aziz, now I go first Aziz, then Amy, now me, three in a row. And then they always get, they're always like, and it just clicks them to know that, I do a variation of that line, because it just clicks them to know like, oh yeah, like this is surreal for us and for him, you know?

But it's, it's, yeah. I mean, often the audience is in such a good mood that if you ride that energy, then, you know, you can, you can kind of get through because people are pretty stoked. Like the eruption that the, and some hosts make a bigger deal out of it, but some hosts are just like

okay everybody welcome to stage chris rock and the people are just like it's like the beatles on sullivan you know yeah nuts because they paid 15 bucks and they heard that this happens sometimes yeah you know or chappelle or yeah um whoever but i think you just for me, it is daunting or whatever, but I just keep in my head those are the moments where you're like, oh, it is worth living in the smallest apartment

in the world because you're in New York and you get to do these things. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. I like shit or get off the pot type of competition. That's the best way to get good is when you surround yourself with people that inspire you. What was the worst bomb you had? Yeah. Oh, the worst bomb.

I mean, I've had like the worst bomb I ever had was in – I was living in New York. I flew back. I had like a corporate Christmas christmas party here which are always a mistake because um it's a group the people that work together they don't necessarily for one have the same taste in comedy for two even some don't want to be there some just want to chat with their friends at work it's the first time they've had a couple drinks with their friends you know the dudes they work with yeah and uh i was on stage and there was a table of like they were like round tables so um you don't and you don't think of it but the round tables that means 50 of the audience is not facing you so i had to have people turn around and uh a lot of people wouldn't and there's a guy right in front of the stage was like doing

motioning for all my jokes and like people were like kind of I could see them watching him not me yeah and Eventually someone must have said something to him and it hurt his feelings. Everyone was bombed the 830 yeah, no, dude. everyone was bombed at this company and uh the guy that was like so i'm performing and then everyone's watching him and he's like doing better than me as far as like the number of laughs that are being received yeah and then someone must have said something to him he walks out of this huge um like uh banker room and then uh so the show gets a little bit back on track i start working and doing bits and then all of a sudden the door opens and he starts throwing um food from that was left over from because they had dinner in the hallway yes all of a sudden those

like tiny tomatoes and pieces of broccoli. He's like over. It was like he had a hell of an arm on him, man. It was coming in. It wasn't hitting me. It was it was such it was such chaos. And it's the only time that's ever happened to me. I just was like, I because the thing you want to swear you want to. I just said I was like, it was very dramatic.

I was just like, I've never been treated with such disrespect. And I put the phone down and I started why I didn't just walked out. And then they all followed me and like, we're bagging me to come back. It was like, it was insane. It was insane feeling. And it was insane. Cause you're not, I'm not prepared for tomatoes to be thrown at me. Assess the situation.

You know, when you're, when you're on stage, you have this thrown at me and assess the situation. You know, when you're when you're on stage, you have this weird like quarterback in the pocket. Yeah, we're like, I was hating the gig anyways. I knew I had another 40 minutes of bombing. Oh, fuck. And then this was my out. So when a part of me was like, this is beautiful because I was able to walk out and I knew I could say to my agent at the time, although that was the last time they ever booked me, I can't perform. That's like the five-minute mark you're having tomatoes thrown at you.

Can you imagine the 30-minute mark when you haven't got it? Yeah. So that was worse. That was like a lot of adrenaline. And I walked out and they followed me throughout the hotel apologizing. And then the little guy that threw the tomatoes was saying sorry. It was like a whole thing. Oh uh fuck that bro yeah no i know like is it worth the money like when you have like then you're like ptsd of doing corporate gigs like so whenever you get offered

a corporate gig you have that fucking image of this piece of shit throwing tomatoes at you i know i know and uh no it's not i mean and some corporate gigs are uh are better than others another one that was really rough was then this one paid well and they were really kind they were really good people that really wanted to do a good job for them but what they did was they had a like a it was like a three-day seminar and then on the third day they had like their like banquet black tie dinner at like seven and they thought that the they thought the last um kind of corporate meeting and stuff was over at five so they're like okay we're wrapping me and then they go we have a surprise for you

we have a stand-up comedian and you could just see that on their face they're like are you serious and you can see like women i'm not gonna have time to get ready and then i was supposed to do an hour and they there was nothing they wanted less than to hear my joke because they were it was like three days of corporate meetings and like just fucking stiffness it was just such a bad call on their part to be like surprise and you could everyone's just like oh my god and that was a rough one because i really wanted to do a good job because they were so cool you know yeah that's so funny you ever take psychedelics absolutely do you ever take them and perform no no i took my experience with psychedelics i took them very young i started very very young and um

not like crazy young but like pretty young like 13. like what were you taking acid mushrooms acid yeah in my hometown like you couldn't get you could get acid you could get hash like this like really good lebanese hash we didn't realize how good it was at the time yeah but like you couldn't get like pot like you couldn't get like you know leaf yeah but um i i was when i was a kid i was in special ed and it was so uh hard and so frustrating that i was so drawn to acid and i was like scared i didn't know a lot about it but i took it and uh just absolutely loved like it was just it just you know like i think it suits some people and didn't suit other people right for me like this was the break that i this is like the break from having to drive to school in the short bus this is the break from being you know in special ed

all this it was just like i had such an amazing time on it and um yeah and it's funny because i took it a lot at the throughout high school and i always felt a little weird about it i mean the stigma now it's like yoga teachers are like you know microdosing yeah it's so weird dude i haven't been about just like how like it was if you took acid when i started it meant you wore a leather jacket with a jean jacket over top that said something about metallica or sephateera right and now acid is a woman in uggs coming home from a like a fast and a cleanse in a yoga class and now she's gonna trip trip. Like it's, there's like this spiritual, like, oh, good, good for you.

She really has it together where it was like, before that it was like, it is just a matter of time before this child will be in prison. Like this kid will go to jail. Of course he'll go to jail. Like it was the burnouts. It was like, it was all the dudes that smoked weed,

but then it was like the next level psychedelics were you know is that um is that why you like the dead well i yeah i got into the i got it i was really into heavy metal and then i i remember hearing the name the grateful dead and being a kid and thinking oh the grateful dead these dudes are going to be so heavy and then hearing it and being like this is not what i expected but um yeah i got into them then and there's just no i mean i go to shows now i don't really do i don't really do anything and i don't need to but the the to dose i mean the dead were founded in, you know what I mean?

That was like, that's in the mortar of what they are is the genics, right? Yeah, exactly. So it is, I mean, for me to take acid and to, like we would listen to the dead and then we would like just a skateboard on a summer night on like, there was nothing better for me when i was a kid you know because i think i had a lot of stress from school i know i did but i always felt

like dirty because it was really frowned upon like it wasn't like cool or it was like it was kind of the hardest drug you could get at the time and i remember like older my friends older brothers would like say to their younger brothers, like, you know, be careful hanging out with like Phil, like we heard he does acid and all this stuff. And I felt like weird about it until I had, I was going to therapy and it was my therapist that pointed that out. My therapist was like, of course you took acid.

You were losing your, like, you know, school had been stressful since grade one. And you know, you're learning disability, all this stuff. You wanted the biggest release that you could get. And it just clicked. And I was like, yeah, disability, all this stuff. You wanted the biggest release that you could get. And it just clicked. And I was like, yeah, that's all it was. And yeah, and I was just lucky. It just agreed with me.

Whereas there were dudes in my hometown that took it and it didn't agree with them. You know what I mean? Like some people take it and are never quite the same afterwards or whatever. Yeah. taken and are never quite the same afterwards or whatever. Yeah. But for me, I mean, it's the quantity that I took is, yeah, it was a lot. Do you think acid built your confidence?

Because I feel like you're forced to go into special ed. You're forced to go into all these things. It kind of lowers your mind state of confidence. And you felt like you were just, were you super depressed? Were you super lonely? What were you like when you were a kid? Well, I was like, I always did well socially. I was the youngest of two other kids.

My parents, I don't know how, and I say this because I work with some organizations that work with kids. There's an organization called Eye to Eye that works with kids with learning challenges. And I've done, you know, some, like, talks at their conferences and stuff. And the big thing, and sometimes parents who have dyslexic kids will reach out to me. And the big thing is to get through school. It's not designed, if you don't excel at reading and writing, it's just not, it's not designed for it.

Like it's not designed for a kid with dyslexia. Like it's just not designed for us. So you got to get through it. But the big thing is I'm like, if they can just maintain their confidence and somehow my parents, like I was taking the short bus to school and you're taught like you're like, before you get into special ed, you have years of teachers just

saying you're dumb or lazy or whatever. And my dad, my mom would go in, my mom was very peaceful and we'd go in and like try to reason with them. And my dad would be like, you're a goddamn smarter than them. I don't know. Like he somehow instilled this confidence so um i don't know what i mean now when they talk about uh lsd and they talk about all the you know how it treats depression and anxiety it's really interesting you say that because i don't know what it did i mean for me at the time, it made skateboarding feel great and loud Casey Jones coming through the speakers sound amazing. I bet. That's all it was. You know, for me at the time, it was just a break.

I would go to a party and do it. I'd be the only one on it. Like it was my friends drinking or whatever. And I would dose and have a blast. So I wonder, I don't know what it did for confidence. I know my parents really instilled like school sucks. It's on them. You're trying, you're showing up. It's just not in your wheelhouse as far as like skills type thing. Were you ever, what was the lowest, where, what was the lowest

part of your life? You think, how old were you? Uh, I mean, dude dude like from grade one because kindergarten went well and then grade one it was such uh a rude awakening like when i think of like that age like when i think of me at that age it's like it's like a dickens play or like it's always in black white like it's like all of her twist right it was like all of a sudden everyone was just like reading and writing and picking it up and i was just like nowhere and my teacher uh people even people say and i've had jokes about it where people like you got to take that out of your act because it's so depressing at one point my first grade teacher took my desk put it at the back of the classroom facing the wall because I couldn't, that's how badly I was spelling. And she thought that, I don't know, humiliating me. Yes, dude, it's crazy.

So like the whole class would be going on and that would just be like she like she did her best if I think if she could have put me outside, she would have. But this is the farthest this is like the meanest thing she could probably legally do. Yeah. The fuck? I know, dude. It was crazy. And I was, so my parents were, my parents' rule was if I got, they would, if I got comments that said I was disruptive or anything, then that would be something they would talk about. But my mom was like, we won't even look. We don't, we won't even, they didn't't they wouldn't look at the grades which would be like

e e e d maybe like a b and jim or like a c plus or something but um yeah so i would say finding out that i was dyslexic was and then there's such a stigma to being a special ed so the day they like brought me into like the um you know learning center or whatever and had that tell me that i had to switch schools or go to special ed or whatever yeah that was all pretty low like when i was a kid through school was probably the probably ever contemplating like suicide or anything i mean i had really dark thoughts i don't know if i ever like put together how to do stuff but i definitely wanted to like i would my my sister told me that some kids are just smart like born smart or whatever so i'd always like pray that i'd like wake up and be

able to read or wake up and be you know when you hear about those kids that graduate harvard at 12 like that i would be able to get through school but it was so depressing because it was um you would do the math and you'd be like when you're nine and you're figuring out how many more years of school you have it's so monumental oh my god it's like a lifetime yeah go through school like it's you know so that was that would have been definitely that would have definitely been the darkest but again it's like something that i tell kids now, that would have definitely been the darkest. But again, it's like something that I tell kids now or that I tell parents of kids with learning challenges. I'm like, if you can get them through school with self-esteem and without really getting

in trouble, they are like a coiled spring. And that's why I stand up because I was like, I will not do something that I don't love. You know? Like, I have to each day be passionate and excited about what I'm going to do. Let's fucking go, Phil! This is what I'm talking about, baby! Let's go! I love a comeback story.

Because now it makes sense why you took L. Because you're happy in your brain. By yourself. You didn't need the fucking insecure kids making fun of how you are educated to deal with your life. You're like, fuck it. I'll take L by myself and go to this party and laugh at colors and have fun with myself. It totally makes sense. And I don't know if this is part of it, but wasn't Bob weird?

Dyslexic? I don't know if this is part of it, but wasn't Bob weird dyslexic? Dude, it was such a monumental moment when I found out Bob Weir was dyslexic because when you're a kid, they tell you, when I was a kid, they would tell me Tom Cruise is dyslexic. And I'm like, what does that do? Like, I'm going to have a fucking start in college. Thank you for that. You know what I mean? I don't care. but i found out bob weir was dyslexic and not only that if you watch

bob weir play guitar it's such a different approach right and it made me be like yeah that like that was revolutionary and it it really increased my love for the dead and and i mean obviously like you cherish jerry and and but i i loved bobby so much too because um he just was so eccentric he seemed eccentric in the best way and and just like such a unique um person and uh i mean i love you see those like 80s shows and he's playing a pink guitar and wearing a Madonna shirt. He even rebelled to be a deadhead.

You're going to just travel and listen to your favorite band. It's such a rebellious thing to do. And then on top of that, Bob would rebel against the deadheads. You know what I mean? He's wearing short shorts and a Madonna t-shirt. He's just,

yeah, he's just the coolest dude. Yeah. And you could tell that man got pussy, you know, when he was, when he was younger. Oh,

I, I would imagine. I mean, he was, yeah, he was an absolute heartthrob. Oh yeah, dude.

He, he'd wear, you know, he knew what he was doing wearing those short shorts. Dong was just fucking right there, bro. Yeah. Like everyone is looking at Bobby's dick, dude bobby was the hottest guy in the band right

yeah abs by far the hottest guy in the band and god damn he could wear a pair of shorts like it's like almost cliche when people comment on it but if you look at him yeah he's wearing like cut off and they're not even like cut off le's. They're like cut off like Jordache. There was something that's like particularly tight in the ass. Yeah. So tell me, did you follow the dead? I, I got to see some shows. I mean, I've seen, cause by the time I was like, I've seen Bob Weir perform probably

like, like over a hundred times, like a hundred times. Cause I would go after the day, after Jerry passed, I would, you know, Bobby's had all these different bands. And I would go, like I would fly from Vancouver to New York for three days to see him play. What, like Capitol Theater or something? Yeah, or like I'd always go to the Beacon. But yeah, I've seen them there.

And yeah, the Beacon, he'd do like, you know, multiple nights. are like i i'd always go to the beacon but yeah i've seen them there and yeah at um yeah the beacon he'd do like you know multiple nights or i would hear that like phil lash and friends rumored that uh bob weir was i once went to new york on the rumor that bob weir might perform with yes yes and it was amazing because i i didn't have a ticket and I was standing in front of the Beacon Theater. Everyone's in no scalpers. I'm standing there and I watch someone walk out of the one door and then go to the like the will call or like with a ticket. And I remember jumping over a barrier and getting there first and someone just left the ticket. over a barrier and getting there first and someone just left the ticket and it was like center on the balcony at the beacon and as soon as i got i'm like you know squeezing through deadhead soon i soon i got to my seat they walked out and bobby was there i was just like yes oh my god yeah he

it's it's like i can't i get so emotional like um you know i'll be like talking to a girlfriend and like um you know i'll be like talking to a girlfriend and just dead lyrics are so ingrained in my in my head and and there's so many songs that i could like i can talk about moments at a dead show and just get like goosebumps or um did you ever meet him no i've never met no i've never met any like i always there's a line in the dead song who goes i shook the hand that shook the hand if i meet someone that who has met bobby that's like a huge thing for me like if i met someone that has met uh we're no we'll introduce you to bobby you're we're gonna get you we're gonna that's gonna be my goal is you to hug bob where you could feel the indenture of his huge penis on your thigh, buddy.

I would love to meet Bob Weir. I mentioned him so much. I'm writing a book about being dyslexic. I'm sure my editor is going to be like, okay, we got to trim the Bob Weir references from 1,200 to 500. I talk about him so much. What's it like writing a book?

Dude, it's trippy because it's funny when it brings you back. It's such like a cathartic thing to do because I'm writing about I grew up in a really, know kind of there's a really kind of it was great the people were great but it's kind of a shitty little town just outside of Toronto and you it really when you start writing it so brings uh you back to your you've shocked at the things you remember like that you remember conversations or what people said or what like you're like how do I remember what that dude was wearing so it's been really great to go back i'm at about the halfway point um it's really a lot of work for a dyslexic to to do but it's i put on the dead and i just kind of sit down for you know a few hours every day and uh and try to write it out but i'm uh, I'm, I'm, I'm, it's fun writing it, but I love the idea of

being able to like tour with it and to talk to people about, it's basically just my favorite topics in one book. It's a positive look. It's basically the positive look on having a learning disability. It's like, I wouldn't be talking to you if I wasn't dyslexic. I wouldn't be a standup if I wasn't dyslexic, wouldn't be you know traveling and doing all these things so i really owe the shittiest part what i thought was the shittiest part of my life turned out it's funny when you give things enough time you realize how great they are you know they can actually be a great thing yeah you know is it you know we talk about suppression like when we're kids we kind of like block things in our head to make us not think

about it again was it hard to like bring back some of those memories of when people were just fucking making fun of you or were you are you like strong enough in your head now through all the trials and tribulations of you know bombing and following your dreams that this is just another chapter in your life yeah it's well that's the beauty the thing that i love so much about comedy and i'm sure it's the same with songwriting is and and and just writing is that like it it's you have the ability to rewrite if you if something shitty happened to me when i was a kid and then i have a bit about it all of a sudden that wasn't a shitty thing. It was like inspiration for like a good thing, you know? So it's fun. You can kind of rewrite these things. And certainly

like the book to me is like, it's such an opportunity and to talk to other people with dyslexia and stuff like that is something that I get to do now, but I'm going to be able to do a lot more of that. And it's just something that I like to do so it's it's funny when you use that it becomes a positive thing you know like even if i don't have kids but if you had you know a rough time when you were growing up and mistreated or whatever and then you get to like take that lesson and then treat your kids right i think in a way it almost makes that your experience, it kind of puts a bit of a positive spin on it because you're using it for something good. You know, so really what's happening when I'm writing the book, it's like,

thank God all this stuff happened, you know, or I wouldn't be here. Exactly. Man, kids are such assholes. Kids. Yeah. Like I, for me, it was weird. I somehow, and I credit my parents and my sister, I was able to, socially, I was always fine.

But yeah, in school, yeah, kids can be, yeah, they're just like, I had to fight to prove that I was cool enough to hang or whatever. But for me, my experience was with teachers were really, I mean, this is back, this is way before anti-bullying was like, they didn't, you know, I mean, yeah. So for me, it was, I had my worst experiences with teachers and then yeah, kids would, if you get off the short bus, kids are going to be shitty, but I was able to kind of get in with a group of people along the way. I was always lucky to be able to make friends,

often through music, you know what I mean? Like if you're a young kid and you're really into music or you love the dead or whatever, you meet someone else that is, you can really connect because it's most of the kids were into like cartoons or whatever, you know? And it kind of fucked up that they put the kids with learning disabilities on a short bus.

Dude, it's... What the fuck is that all about? It is so fucked up because that's the thing that is... Because then adults, they don't... It's like, would you want to be on a short but they take a school bus and then they do design the car the clown car version of it and they're going to put kids on it it's so cruel it is it's like okay so you struggle in school now you're about to struggle in the schoolyard like it's it's it's it's it's brutal dude it's so brutal and the way they like with me um i really

wanted to uh i so they put me in the special ed schools a regular school but it was a special ed class and i really wanted to um my first opportunity to learn music i really wanted to study and they instead because i was in special ed the woman kicked me out of the class in front of the whole class and it sucked because even as a kid i'm like no i can't read why wouldn't you try to find something that i can do yeah i mean and because you're in special ed you know when has ever studied music i'm like that's all we should study because we weren't doing anything else yeah you know but um these people yeah it i feel like people are more um sensitive to to kids with um learning differences now i hope so i mean the big thing is that parents accept it so yeah it's crazy man i mean phil

i i'm so thankful i met you bro you're badass dude it was so I'm so glad to have met you too man yeah I got one I got two more questions that cool you got time yeah yeah absolutely okay so everyone says you know everyone says you're the king crowd work you're the man at crowd work like this improv it's really I've and then I did you know I'll B you know, Bert's a homie of mine and I listened to your podcast with Bert and you are something very special. And I was wondering about crowd work. Do you think you're so good at crowd work through the improvisation of what the dead did? Well, I listen to, if I'm writing,

I could easily listen to 40 Hours of the Dead a week. I just put it on, it's my work music. Really when I started comedy, I just admire them so much, and I love that it's a different show every night. I just admire them so much and I love that it's a different show every night. And I think it's seeped in because I try to do and it's like you would only see it if you were me. But I try to do because I like to riff with the crowd because you're so in the moment. Like it's like once Bobby Bob Weir goes uh he he goes like the thing he

loves about music is it makes time go away yeah and when you're reciting the same joke and i'm sure if it's when you're playing the same song over and over again it you lose that a little bit but when i can riff into the crowd and use them to come back into another joke totally you know like something they say that to kind of transition um i i like to think that that's just because i admire the dead so much that i like to think that that's where their influence lies in in my comedy um so i like i don't know if it's too grandiose to be able to say you know i feel weird saying it but i would love to say, you know, I feel weird saying it, but I would love to think that, you know, that's where I've got it. But it is easy to see some similarities in that because I do look, when I'm performing,

I look for that place to riff, you know? And I look for that place to bring in the audience. And the Grateful Dead really did that. The audience was really- Part of the show. Part of the show, because you would go, like, they were the visual aspect jerry's wearing track pants you know like like it's not they're staged they weren't like come

on guys let's get some like matching outfits jerry's wearing track pants uh phil lesh wore track pants for many years with a t-shirt tucked into them like it wasn't they weren't like let's spectacular it was the it was you were listening to the music and you were you know watching a little bit but you're watching the people around you and stuff like that so i really try to bring the audience and i really try to establish that carl's up front and sarah's going through a breakup over here and these two guys this couple here met at a a gas station and I like to be able to bring it all in together, you know, that, that, that's, that's, you know, on a good night in a perfect world that that's what I try to do. And I, I love to think that that is, uh, something that I learned from the dad for sure. That's in my head. I love to have some connection to them. You know, is it harder to build that intimacy on big and bigger rooms? to them, you know? Is it harder to build that intimacy in bigger rooms?

You can do it. I mean, I play clubs unless I'm opening for, you know, like I opened for Aziz for a couple years on and off. We would tour together and stuff like that. It is a little bit harder, but it's more daunting. But when you get used to it and uh hopefully i'll be fortunate enough to play bigger venues i will figure out a way to do that because when i do kind of take that risk and try to get into the crowd and in a big venue like that right um you can do it you know and it's just establishing they can't see the person you're talking to maybe,

but it's just establishing, talking to them in a way that the rest of the audience understands kind of what's going on. Yeah, that's just so fascinating to me. Because, like, you know, I'm a musician, but I'm obsessed with comedy. That's my thing. I love how comedians approach a set, how comedians approach when it's time for them to just do some straight improv you know that's that's the stuff i look you know like as a coach like

i love phil jackson that's my guy you know i grew up in l.a it's fast yeah he's a deadhead yeah yeah him and bill yeah it's just fascinating how It's just fascinating how they control egos. You could basically do that with crowd work. You could do that in your own show with that same philosophy. I'm a fan of you, Phil. Thanks for being on the show, bro. You're the man. Dude, I appreciate... God, I had a blast talking to you and I really appreciate being on it. Yeah, I'll message you on Instagram. Give you my number. Let's fucking hang, bro bro you're in new york a lot i'm always in new york are you are you based in new york or l.a i'm in denver and new york so i live in brooklyn when i'm in den when i'm in new york dude come to the comedy cellar and we'll we'll have dinner and we'll yeah let's do it and i'll take you to the cap theater and you know like all my homies are the brooklyn bowl like i'll show you the insides of the cap theater yeah oh dude I'd love to go see J rad or

something yeah let's do it dude let's do Russo or we'll do a Phil Les show or something oh dude I love that thanks brother no problem man Phil and thanks for being on the show I got one last question I like to end the show with when it's all said and done what do you want to be remembered by whoa uh i mean in in the work has just begun but i would love to um i mean the two things i know this is what i would want to be remembered by but i would love two things that i would love to do is uh build confidence of kids with dyslexia and and be remembered as someone that brought you know knowledge and Brokes broke some of the stigma of that dyslexia is a terrible thing because I think it could be I know it can be

positive thing and I'd love to think that I Turned people on, you know people who were like the Grateful Dead and then you know checked out and were like, oh, wow, this makes me feel great. I fucking love it. Thank you, Phil, for being a fucking ambassador for the jam scene. I appreciate it, buddy. Thanks, brother. It's so great to talk to you.

I can't wait to hang. Please message me with your number and stuff. Yeah, I'll do that right now. Have a good one, Phil. Thanks for being on the show, bro. Later. And now,

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