Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 215: Eggy (A Summer Camp Music Festival Episode)

Episode Date: April 18, 2023

Watch this episode streaming now!! It's that time of year again- Summer Camp Music Festival is coming up and we are PUMPED cuz we got festival founder and classy muso hot guy, Ian Goldberg to guide us thru the miasma of festival season with a truly eclectic collection of seemingly disparate bands coming together to rock your collective faces off (Mastodon is playing... what?!) Plus: we got Eggy on the Interview hour! Holy WOW. Keep in touch and find out who these dudes are and when/where they're playing near you: eggymusic.com RIP Edward "Eggy" Torrence. You are a bright star in a dark night. Pre-save You Do You on apple music and/or Spotify! Psyched to partner up with our buddies at Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. And don't forget to catch the band in a town near you andyfrasco.com/tour Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out our good friends that help us unwind and sleep easy while on the road and at home: dialedingummies.com Check out Andy Frasco & The U.N. (Feat Little Stranger)'s new song, "Oh, What A Life" on iTunes, Spotify  Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix & some music by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Shawn Eckels Andee "Beats" Avila Arno Bakker

Alright boys, let's show them who we are. We're in the opening bed. We're in the opening bed. Our monitors have no base. We get no parking space. We're in the opening bed. We get no artist pass. Bartender serves us last. We're in the opening bed. Can't get in VIP cause nobody knows me.

We're in the opening band Won't let me bring in my sister Or use the headline as pisser We're in the opening band Let's start the show. Here we go. All right, and we're back. Andy Frasco's World's Favorite Podcast.

Today's a very special one. It's summer camp edition. Yes, summer camp is right around the corner. I love summer camp. I can feel the humidity just in my pits as we roll straight into May. Pray to the weather gods. So we have a great interview today. Before me and Nick talk about our day, we have a very special guest.

The man who runs the show over at Summer Camp, Mr. Ian Goldberg. Ian Goldberg, welcome to the show, buddy. The man. The legend. Thank you for having me. How you doing, man? The first man who ever gave me a festival billing was this man, Ian Goldberg. No way. Really?

I swear to God. Remember that, Ian? I mean, I believe you, but... We played the campsite stage. It was the first. We played at 2 p.m. Absolutely. And you gave us the shot. And now we're on to the bigger stages.

And here we go. I love it. It's really been cool seeing the community that's formed around you at Summer Camp as well. You always bring it. And there's a great fan base that just loves what you do there every year. And it goes down even deeper in the roots of how big of a community you've built to the Midwest.

It's inspiring. A lot of these festivals are dropping like flies because it's very hard to start to keep a festival going. And you're out here booking every band for this year. This year is a huge lineup. Yeah, we definitely went diverse this year. It was kind of intentional wanting to embrace the existing fan base and also show that with jam band fans and electronic music fans and rock fans and can bring everyone together under one roof and have a good party and have a good time.

Right. And have you ever had a year where you just overshot your load with the eclectic band? You know, like, oh, actually... You know, I mean, I think if there's any year, it's this year, right? I mean, to have... He said, we'll find out.

Wilson, Excision, and Mastodon all on the same bill. That's amazing. It's pretty crazy. And then when you throw in Goose and Voltec and all the other cool stuff, there's a ton. My favorite was when 3-6 Mafia showed up to summer camp. I was at that one. Oh my God, that was a blast.

And that's the thing, that's been our experience over the years is we can do different things and our fan base loves it because ultimately we're a central Illinois, you know, throwdown party. We're just throwing the bands for everyone to come and have a good time. The Three Six Mafia is a perfect example. I was thrilled to see that the bowl was packed and everyone was singing every word, you know word. Not something that you would necessarily identify with summer camp.

Of course, it was in for Cypress Hill. It was the same when we did Steve Miller Band. And Big Boy. When you see that, do you ever get nervous? Like, oh shit, is anyone going to watch this set? And then you're like, you're at the side of stage. Because I always try to find you.

You're always side of stage, big stage. Do you ever just pump yourself up like, fuck yeah, it worked. It fucking worked. You know? Definitely. There have been a handful of times where I've been somewhat worried. 3-6 is a great example.

As I wasn't really sure what the fan reaction would be at the show. And it was packed and everyone was into it and it was great. I wasn't really sure what the fan reaction would be at the show. And it was packed and everyone was into it and it was great. I can't wait for Mastodon, dude. I've never even thought, I would never even thought in my existence that I'd be like on the same bill as a Mastodon. So this is like, this is bucket list shit for me right now, Ian.

So thank you. Are they going to be one of the big Sunday bands? Mastodon? Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they to be one of the big Sunday bands? Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They'll be on Sunday. I mean, even last year you had Smashing Pumpkins, didn't you?

Yes. Oh, yeah. What the fuck? This year is interesting. It's cool to have Willie Nelson back because really he kind of was the beginning of this path for us, you know, back in like 08, I think when we were really still primarily just jam bands and mo and umfries and you know and and the the core bands and got the

opportunity to bring in willie and we were like yeah let's go for it like how do you say no to a legend right and we did it was a huge success and then we kind of went oh you know we can really broaden out and do some different things and then we had zach brown band and yeah like i said steven band and uh you know all these different things and mastodon's a definitely a bit of a stretch but you know we also had clutch one year we've gone that rock route before so we just kind of try to keep it diverse and you know hopefully people obviously you're going to come for your favorite bands but hopefully you're checking out different things and and joining to be a part of that musical community we have yeah and you know what also is beautiful about it is how many bands you launch like the launching pad summer camp is such the launching pad for so many of these

newer bands like we have eggy on i want that's why i wanted the first episode for summer camp to be one of the bands that are starting to really pop. We got Eggie and I wanted Eggie to really be the first one for Summer Camp. Where do you find these bands? Are you always like, are you on the fucking, you out there in the fucking chat rooms figuring out who's

popping? How do you taste make like this? I definitely pay attention online, but I also try to get out and go to shows and, and go to other festivals and events and, you know, of course network with, with other industry people to hear what everyone's kind of buzzing about.

Right. And yeah, we've had some, some really exciting ones. I, I love the story you told about the, the campfire stages is really kind of one of the coolest places because we've had so many great bands that have started there. Big Gigantic is a perfect example.

They were really the first band that played on that small stage, even when it was smaller than it is now. It was on a trailer stage. And then they broke through, you know, and then headlined one of our main stages. And we've had several other artists kind of go that direction, and I'm excited to see you going that direction. That's cool. Even Billy Strings was

like that. Wasn't he on a small stage when you booked him a while back or something? Yeah. No, it wasn't on the campfire stage, but yeah, I'm trying to remember. Maybe he was like sitting in with a band or something. You know what we should do?

We should make a list of people he hasn't booked. I mean, that's hard. I think that would be a lot easier, I think. So how are you feeling about this year? You feel like it's going to be a good one? You always get nervous around this time. It's like that one month of anxiety. Is this it?

This one starts happening? Of course. You always get nervous around this time. It's like that one month of anxiety. Is this it? This one starts happening? Of course. It's go time. All the production and labor elements are coming into play. There's a lot for us to do to get everything organized. We're basically building a little city for 20,000 people in a town of 6,000 people. So lots going on. But yeah, it's also the exciting time because you know we know here it comes and i know i'm really excited for this year i think that uh

again the the diversity of the lineup and all the the cool bands that we have coming and doing some some fun stuff to continue to develop our illumination woods that that area is just getting better and better every year. We have some more new installations and cool shit coming in. That's always fun to work on. I always loved the vagabond poker. What?

Where people just... The Frick Frack Casino. Where'd you think of that? It's incredible. What's that? Where'd you think of that? Because that's such a brilliant idea for a festival. I don't think I know about this. Oh, you don't know about Frick Frack? No, what's that again?

You have to go check it out. It's the casino that we have in the Illumination Woods. Basically, it's like a vaudeville-style performance casino. And the rule is that you can bet anything except money that's cool people keep it legal to bet right but it's it's cool because they also have like

really cool collectible stuff like there are some people who are into it and bring like you know pokemon cards and stuff that are worth wow and and basically you put your bet on the table and then they go around and match it with something from their collection of things. But it also includes a lot of people. They'll do dares. They'll do bets of dares. Some people cut off their dreadlocks. There's other unmentionables that end up happening in that place.

It's definitely the place to be late night. Oh, yeah. I want to go in there and throw my horn down. Around there. It's really cool. Last year, me and Stasek spent about four and a half hours at the game. We were just giving our belt buckles

and cigarettes. You're just naked. I'm just naked by the end. You guarantee. Look how hot Ian's looking. That was the first thing I said when I saw him. Festival daddy. This is amazing. We talk about business a lot, but

a lot of people don't know that this man is an amazing scuba diver. Don't you have something in... Don't you have a property in Mexico that you like to go to to kind of wind down after the festival season? I have a scuba diving business in Cozumel, Mexico, and that's definitely my getaway to go to to kind of wind down after the festival season? I do. I have a scuba diving business in Cozumel, Mexico

and that's definitely my getaway to go get underwater and hang out with the fishies. That's awesome. What is it about scuba diving that zends out? Didn't Jerry Garcia do that too? He did. He was a big scuba diver. What do you...

Well, I mean, the one thing I always say is it's the closest we're ever going to get to in our lifetime of going to another planet. Right. There's like all these alien beings that are so crazy. And you just go down and, you know, for an hour, you're completely kind of isolated. You know, there are other people around, of course, but you're in your own space. You can hear your breath, which is kind of meditative. Yeah. And and you can just kind of lose yourself and but with nature but and a completely different nature and you never know you know what's going to pop up a giant eagle ray

comes by or a shark swims by or you know have you ever almost gotten like bit by something have you ever got bit like a shark or like, are they friendly? Is there a friendly place in the sea? Yeah. When you're down there with them, one, you don't look like food, so they're not coming for you. You've got all these bubbles on your back and stuff. You realize immediately they don't

really pay much attention to you. You can just hang out. Who makes you more nervous between sharks and agents? Who's more nervous? sharks and agents? Yeah, who's more? Agents, for sure. They definitely see you as food. Let's go. They definitely see you. Yes.

Well, don't take no shit from nobody, Ian. We're here for you. You are the man of the people. You are festival daddy to us. You are festival daddy. When am I going to get you down here diving with me, Andy? I was thinking about that. When do you normally do that? A couple months off? When do you go out there? Don't you go

out in the wintertime? The beautiful thing in Cozumel is it's wonderful year-round. It's such a great reef. It's the second largest reef in the world and behind the Great Barrier Reef. There's tons of great diving at all different depth levels

and everything. Anytime is good. Not May. Let's get out of May. Let's get the festival going. Let's get that bank deposit in for you, Ian. Let's get you that money in there. We've got to keep Cozumel. We've got to keep Cozumel

for everyone's sanity, for your sanity. Because when you're happy, the scene's happy. And I just want to say, thank you so much for, you know, building such a platform for all of us to, to grow as a community.

Cause you know how, I know how much you love the community and for us to be part of it. We just want to say, thank you. So we love you. And thank you. And, you know,

I appreciate that. And I appreciate you recognizing that that is, that is our goal. And, you. And I appreciate that. And I appreciate you recognizing that that is our goal. And it's been 22 years now of putting this together. It's fucking amazing, bro. 22 years. Did you ever think it was going to last 22 years? No. No, I've never thought about it at all.

Every year it was just throwing another party. I know. Well, look at him. It's the year of Ian Goldberg. He shaved his beard. He's looking hot. He's going to be snorkeling. He's going to get to meet Mastodon. He's going to meet Mastodon. Hey, if you meet Mastodon, can I meet him with you? Can I go with you to meet him?

We'll see if we can't make that happen. If not, I'll just stay 10 feet away from you when you meet them so I can see you guys meeting. I do think that the dubstep kind of kids are going to love Mastodon. I think there's a definite link between metal kind of stuff. 100%.

I think that was the smart move. And of course, the Humphreys guys are huge fans. Their whole direction they go. It's going to be interesting to see what they do that night, just knowing that that's going to be kind of the vibe. Do they know it's a jam band festival?

I think they don't even care. They don't care. Oh, they do. Actually, we had really good conversations with their team about it, you know, and they were interested. They wanted to do this. It was on their radar. You know, they came to me first about it over a year ago. So I think it's going to be a really cool experience. I think they have more fans

in the jam band scene than people realize. From what I've seen on message boards and stuff. Because this has been the biggest buzz of summer camp's lineup in a minute. People are really talking about this lineup. Do you feel that too? Do you feel like there's a lot of

riff-raff about this is going to be a dope year? My man, you keep on stepping up the game. Festival daddy in the building. Well, have a great day, Ian. I know you're busy having to email agents back, but don't take no shit from nobody, Ian. We are here for you. If anyone's giving you shit,

say, the lineup is done. Yeah, if Pincus gives you shit, I'm just going to send them to you. Yeah, CC me. If Pincus gives you shit, I'm just going to send them to you. CC me. If Pincus starts giving you shit, you CC me to that brother, okay? I love it. Have a good one, Ian. Thanks for being on the show, buddy.

Thank you. Keep rocking. We appreciate having you and looking forward to having you back. Let's fuck it up in Illinois at the end of the month. Later, buddy. Bye. Wow, there he was. Ian Goldberg. Later, buddy. Wow, there it was. There he goes. Ian Goldberg.

Okay, guys, bye. That was awesome. He's looking hot. What was the first year you played Summer Camp? Oh, God. I bet it has to be after mine. 10 years ago. Oh, definitely, yeah.

I was 07. God, no. I played the little landing stage. My first gig there was I played every stage there. One year I played 17 sets. It really does catapult a lot of careers in the Midwest. It helped me fill out all those Missouri, Illinois

rooms. It's a good thing. If you play it, people will book you. If you play it, they will come. It's like easy. It's kind of hard to get to in some ways. It's not close to an airport, but it is drivable from 12 cities. It's within four hours. Speaking of the Midwest, you are looking at...

What now? The 2023 Wook March Madness champion, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so much. Good. Thank you so much. I have a fucking bone to pick with you.

I voted for you this week. Bullshit. You voted against me for four weeks in a to pick with you. I voted for you this week. Bullshit. You voted against me for four weeks in a row. Two out of four, actually. Why? Because one time it was funny. Also, I like Spongle more than you. He's cool.

Why? I like his music more. What is Spongle? He's way more of a wook than you. He's this British weird producer. You would actually love him. British people are wooks? They got him.

They got hippies too, man. They're better, though. They're not as dirty. What the fuck? Am I choplifting? I voted for you the other time for obvious reasons against you. I'm not going to get into it. That was a good reason. I voted against me for that reason too.

Yeah, exactly. The first week I think I didn't vote because I didn't even know what was going on because I have a life. And then today in the championship I voted for you against a band that's hired me multiple times. Let's go. It's not that bad. I pay you more than them. Yeah, well...

Per gig? Or total, yes. Gross. I'd like to thank... Overall, we had 12,000 votes for Frasco throughout the March Madness. And I just want to say thank you so much to all our fans. Verud and me, I know,

was the underdog, and we took them all down. It is hard to decide who's a bigger wook between you and String Cheese Instruments because they are... They're like the quintessential jam band. I was talking about this the other day. They are the quintessential... I'm not saying they're the best jam band or the most popular,

but they have every single sort of cultural thing. Yeah, and I like... Shout out to String Cheese. First of all, they can play their instruments. They can play better than most anything. Here's what... They're good at covers, which a lot of jam bands do the cover thing.

They can do a lot of styles. To me, a jam band is someone that plays everything. I've been to a String Cheese set, and I've heard bluegrass, and then they'll do a dubstep drop later in it. That's very... Also, the tie-dye. They're from Colorado.

I'm just saying they are the quintessential jam band. You're not the quintessential jam band, but you are kind of a wook. Like I've seen you eat like pizza that's just been sitting out and you don't wear shoes all that much. The barefoot thing. The barefoot thing's pretty wook. What else is wook about you? You still smoke cigarettes. That's kind of wookish.

I take, I like nitrous. Yeah, but everybody likes nitrous. If you don't like nitrous, you haven't done nitrous. What's some other Wook stuff about you? You're from LA. Huge Wook. Bing, bing, bing, down, down. Unless you're doing reggae. I don't really see that. Your band is more of a jam band.

Do you own a house? I don't know because there's some very rich Disco Biscuits fans out there that own giant tech companies. Are there Wooks still? I can't figure it out. Can you still be a wook and be rich? I think you can because I'm not sure that money really changes the man. I think it only highlights who they are.

You know how assholes, when they get rich, they just become bigger assholes? I respect that. And nice people stay nice when they get rich. So I think you're still a wook. If you're doing coke till six in the morning three days in a row on a fish run,

yeah, you're doing it in a $3,000 Airbnb, but you're still doing it. So maybe they are wooks even though they're rich. I had a party. I went to Western Wednesday and I threw a party

and a bunch of 30 Western people showed up. I know Julie was super jealous that you went to line dancing. Yeah, I learned how to line dance. She wants to line dance. It's fun. I'll go. You want to go? I'll waste you in line dancing, bro. Can we have a line dance together? I got that tap dancing experience, man. Remember that

tap dancing picture Julie showed you? Man, Western people love cocaine. Dude, that's the thing. Bluegrass people too, man. They love to be high and probably just so they can process what's going on. I don't know. We're done. We're done. Did we get any death threats? No. too, man. They love to be high and probably just so they can process what's going on. I don't know. No, we're done. We're done. Did we get any death threats?

No. Oh, good. Can you guys please just threaten my life? No, no. For me, not you, me. Call me a Jewish slur. I'm not even Jewish. But yeah, so that was funny when Julie showed you that tap dancing picture of me

from when I was seven. I'll just send it to you and we can flash it up. I'm posing, guys. Do you think Wilkes eat dialed-in gummies? Oh, no. Well, the rich ones.

Dialed-in gummies. I thought they were expensive, but poor people don't have any money. Grab yourself some dialed-in gummies. Hey, we had Passover with dialed-in gummies.

Oh, by the way, thanks, Keith, for inviting us over for Passover. That's Passover. That was so fun. We called it the un-kosher Passover.

Un-kosher. And we had pork, barbecue, and we had soft... Oh, those are so good. Soft is hitting, man. But I forgot that you're not supposed

to eat anything leaven. Well, I don't care. So we had pita. I'm a Gentile. I know. But we gave you half of the... I made you... I've done a real Passover

with the readings and everything. Yeah, yeah. Also, Passover does exist in Catholicism, too. It's in the Old Testament. We're just not as big on it because we have real stuff that comes later. You know what I mean? Dialed in gummies. If you're in the Colorado area, go grab yourself some dialed in gummies. They're the cleanest. They're the best

tasting. They work the best. They're crushing it. I'm sick of telling you guys how good they are. They're the best gummies. No, they get us paid. Oh, yeah. They're the best. The artwork is the best. They're strain specific. They're better than you.

They're better than you are as a person. Yeah. Yeah. And they're sweet boys. I've been... I remember how I told you I took a break on them. No, I saw your ass at the Adam Dyche show. I was...

Well, that kind of music is like hip hop, but you want to be kind of high for it. No, but it was too... I was getting kind of worried about you because I hung out with you almost three days. We hung out a lot last week. Yeah, we did. It was a little weird because I don't normally see you that much on the weekend. I haven't had a ton going on.

I haven't had a lot of gigs, but it's been cool. I told Lyle to hit you up. I don't think if I text Nick to ask if he wants to hang out. If you would have said Lyle's here, I would have came. No. Not because of... But I didn't make you go to a bluegrass show. It don't think if I text Nick to ask if he wants to hang out. If you would have said Lyle's here, I would have came. Not because of... It's because of what you're going to. That would have been a... First of all, not only is it bluegrass,

which is actually what Sierra Holt is like a transcendent musician. When you're going to do it like that, it's hard to make fun of it. But as soon as you get below that level, to me, it's like... Not only was it a bluegrass show it was sold out bluegrass bashing hour

I'm not bluegrassing I'm saying she's amazing I have a low tolerance it's fine other people like it you don't have to but it was also a sold out Cervantes show which can be tough and I didn't have backstage access because it's bluegrass and that makes me mad I don't like using the regular people bathrooms

I just sneak in I just pee in my pants I just walk back there now backstage access because it's bluegrass and that makes me mad. I don't like using the regular people bathrooms. I just sneak. I just pee in my pants. I just always say I'm sitting in. I just walk back there now. They don't care. They don't stop me. No,

they don't stop. Shout out to Sorantes. So if you're in the Colorado area, grab yourself some dialed in gummies. Yeah. You know what else? We might as well do the volume.com before we do Eggie. Cause I know this band's on volume.com. They've had a couple of shows on volume.com. That's hot. A lot of bands are starting to know this band's on Volume.com. They've had a couple shows on Volume.com.

That's hot. A lot of bands are starting to do live streams at Volume.com. People are hearing about it. I think I might be starting a trivia show on there. That's what I heard, too. We'll talk about that another time. I'm not allowed to put my own stuff on here.

Yes, I would like you to. No, you told me I'm not allowed to propaganda myself. I re-listened to that on the podcast on my way here, too, as well. You're like, damn, I'm a dick. I was a dick, yeah. And you get mad when I do other podcasts. I love that. I'm like, you know that's good, right?

You know I tell them to come listen to our podcast. What is it like being in your band? I don't want to talk about me anymore. I want to talk about this. What is it like being in your band and you go sit in or do a side gig? Volume.com. We are going to Jazz Fest next week and Volume.com is going to be hosting

a bunch of live streams and grab your tickets for the Andy Frasco Big Night Out. We're doing a podcast. Nick's coming. You can see me in person. You want to see Nick's beautiful ass beard in person? It is looking great, amigo. I know. It's so red and beautiful.

It glows. I'm very masculine. It's perfectly shaped. I trim it myself with scissors. I think you really do look hot. I'm kind of weirdly hot for being in my 40s. I was thinking about that. I'm like, damn. I'm hotter now than I was when I was 25. Your girlfriend is so hot.

People don't even know how hot. We had Passover. I was like, Julie is fucking gorgeous. People don't really understand how out of my league in the looks department my girlfriend is. Now I'm learning about it. My favorite was when you're doing that husband and wife sitting at the chair, you're crossing your legs

while she's doing the thing. You're so observant. You did a joke, kind of stabbed at Julie, and she's like, you motherfucker. Yeah, she doesn't suffer from me anymore, but it's fun. It's good. She keeps me on my toes. I know you were smirking, like, oh, this is fucking cute. I get her, but she also has a live-in funny guy, fun. It's good. She keeps me on my toes. I know you were smirking. I'm like, oh, this is fucking cute. I get her. But she also has like a live-in

funny guy, man. He's great. She's like pretty much... But she's funny too and she's a good shit talker. She's funny. She's from Indiana. We're all funny. But she's pretty good at talking shit. She went to bubble school. Is it true that Indiana girls are horny? In my experience, no.

Let's talk about this up in these volumes. Okay. Volume.com slash Nola Funk. Nola Funk. As in New Orleans, Louisiana. What's your favorite show that they're doing? Besides ours, obviously.

I thought the Cosmic... Donato. That's a good one to bring up because that stream, like our stream, is free. Yes. Free to stream. Yes. And what about the Grateful Dead one?

The Grateful Dead one is... Steve Kimmock or something. Yeah, that's... Let me see. Deadfeet, you mean? Deadfeet. Oh, Little Feet and Dead... Yeah, yeah, that's the one.

Yeah, that's Deadfeet. Anders Osborn, you know, all the guys from Little Feet. Jackie Green, which he's a great singer-songwriter. I love Jackie Green. He used to be in the Phil Lesch band like in 2008 or something.

Wow, that shit's coming up, dude. New Orleans. I want to see the Earth, Wind & Power one because that's my favorite band of all time, Earth, Wind & Fire. I do think they're the greatest band in American history and I would be willing to argue that with anybody. Anyway, check out some of the people on this one.

The Nth Power, which I don't know if you know about them. They might be... They might be some of the best musicians in the scene, right? Oteel, Krasnow, Nigel Hall, Dumpster Funk Horn. I mean, it's ridiculous. It's stupid. Voodoo Dad is the other dead one. So if you are not

want to go to New Orleans and go see these things in person, Volume.com has got your back. Head to Volume.com. And if you want to get your band to start doing live streams on Volume.com, head to Volume.com. They have a very good tech squad there that really knows what they're doing.

Agreed. We're going to have a great week. I'm feeling fucking great. You're going out of town. I'm ready to go to New Orleans. I've been in Denver for way too long, man. I'm ready to go to New Orleans. You want to come to... No, I have to do recording sessions.

I forgot. I haven't been playing very many live gigs. I've just been in the studio a ton with people, though. It's whatever. It pays more, actually. You're going to love this Eggie interview. Eggman. They showed up to the house. They all...

It's all of us. It's all four of them and us. All four of us and us. Yeah, and they're all bright-eyed and bushy. Hey, Chris, play some Eggie while we pimp them out a little bit. Another jam band from fucking Connecticut. Do we have to get them and Dogs in a Pile of Beef? Like Biggie and Tupac?

Yes, because it will only help them. I mean, come on, guys. Who would beat each other in a fight? I don't know. They're both from Connecticut? No, no. The Dogs are from Jersey. Oh, Dogs.

I think the Dogs are from Jersey. I think the Dogs are from Connecticut versus Jersey. No disrespect to Eggie. No, I mean, it's just a state thing. I don't know any better. One think the dogs are a little badass. Connecticut versus Jersey. No disrespect to Aggie. No, I mean, it's just a state thing. I don't know any better. One of them could be a pro wrestler. New Jersey's got a little dog in them. No pun intended. Yeah, but they're both Berkeley boys, right? Both bands? No. I think

a couple guys are from Berkeley and dogs, but I know that band's from Berkeley. But Aggie's great. Great singers. They're really starting to pop in the scene, and I'm proud that they're starting to sell out shows. So we wanted to feature them for the first episode of the Summer Camp installment.

They're playing Summer Camp. I wonder if they're doing more than one set. They're probably. I wonder if they'll do more than one song. No, I doubt it. Jam band. One song. You only need one. It's an E.

I missed you. Actually, I don it. Jam band. One song. You only need one. Hour and a half. It's an E. I missed you. Actually, I don't really miss you. I saw you like an hour ago. I just saw you like 10 seconds ago. I saw you at the dice thing. You dragged me to bluegrass. Right. And what we do, there's another thing.

And I'm still not sick of you. I'm not a lot. I'm not. Am I a lot? No, I didn't say. It doesn't have to go back to how you are. Am I not a lot? I'm asking, am I a lot? Oh, no didn't say. It doesn't have to go back to how you are. I'm asking, am I a lot?

Oh, no. Not in public. No. I mean, if you can get you to look. Is this our first fight? We're not fighting. I'm agreeing with you. You're not a lot. Do I always have to think about myself before I think about other people?

There's been like three times just in this podcast where I've been like, this person's like this. I'm not like that. Okay. Everything isn't some binary judge against you. What if I did that with everybody Why am I so insecure I don't know probably your parents Almost all things in your life come from your childhood

Did you know that Yeah I mean that's where you lived That's when all your Everything's imprinted upon you Maybe I'll bring the dog next time Yeah bring him How many episodes has People looked over you things imprinted upon you. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I'll bring the dog next time. Yeah, bring him. He hasn't been on a grip.

How many episodes is this? People looked over here. We're such fucking stoners. All right, we got to go. How many episodes? What? We got one more episode next week, and then it'll just be me and you

for shit talking. We're already 30 minutes. We got to cut this. Oh, shit. Let's go. Okay. We got Henry AZ on the show next week. Rapper.

That was a good one. Yeah, he was fun. We haven't posted this one yet. He's got a great story. He's a rapper. We don't really get a lot of rappers on the show. And. Rapper. That was a good one. Yeah, he was fun. We haven't posted this one yet. He's got a great story. He's a rapper. We don't really get a lot of rappers on the show. And he showed up to Denver because he was renting my house, Airbnb.

That's right. Him and Juicy J. Yeah, Juicy J. He's on Juicy J's record label. That's funny. We were talking on Three Sticks Mafia, so it's all syntactico. All right, guys.

Stay healthy. Stay happy. Keep following those dreams. Find a best friend like Nick to just fucking beat you down to the ground. When you're feeling pumped up about yourself, have a guy like Nick. Just say,

not today, devil. You're a narcissist. You're a narcissist. You're a white man. Why are you always thinking about yourself, you fucking narcissist? That's good for you, though. Yeah.

All right. Bye. And we're here Andy Frasca's World's Same Podcast We got Nick sitting next to me Like we are eloped You don't know what that word means do you? I just learned it today You thought it meant

What did you think it meant? I don't know Just like word means, do you? I just learned it today. You thought it meant... What did you think it meant? I don't know. Just like, you know... Getting married by yourself. Getting married by yourself. You need another person. Then there's hope for me. We got Connecticut in the building today.

We got Eggie. What's up, Eggie? Wow, the new hot jam band. Selling tickets everywhere around the country. Have you guys been to Europe yet? No You guys sing songs so you'll be able to go to Europe Yeah, Jambians don't usually go to Europe

Unless you sing Unless you sing songs Yeah, and you sing I'll go Yeah Why don't you introduce yourselves to our fan base Everyone say your names What you're single

And what you do in the band And your sign And your sign, yeah, Aquarius I'm Alex I am not single Okay And I am a cancer okay okay me too but not not my sign yeah I'm I'm Mike I am a Virgo I am single let's go here

he is come on what instrument do you play oh I play the bass guitar. I play the boom claps. I'm Donnie. I play the keyboards in the band. I am a Scorpio. Hot. You know what's fun? I don't know what month any of these are. Apparently, it means I lurk in the shadows.

That's awesome. Like any true keyboard player. That is kind of a keyboard thing though He's a shadow dweller But apparently it's a very romantic sign and I happen to be single Nice Let's go I'm Jake, I'm happily engaged

Let's go I'm a Sagittarius Ooh, sensitive Sensitive, it's my birthday yesterday Happy birthday, dude Oh yeah I play guitar Awesome

Hell yeah God, Eggie. First off, how'd you guys meet? Who started the band? Whose idea was it? Give me all the info first. Alright, well, the band started back in high school actually with Jake and I.

The reason I even play music is because of the man to my right. We've been best friends since sixth or seventh grade maybe. And I used to like go over his house all the time. And he would just like play guitar at me for like years, like two, three years, just like had a guitar in his hand all the time. I was like, finally, like should probably pick something up so I could do this with you. So you played guitar. I picked up keys.

Pretty much started playing in bands from the moment we were playing music together. And it started, the first version of Eggie started our senior year high school. So about 10, 12 years ago. 12 years ago? Shit. So Jake, how important was music to you in the beginning of your life? Who taught you or who inspired you to be a musician? My dad plays guitar. And he would play songs for us, like going to bed and stuff, me and my siblings.

And I'm the only one that plays music. But I've been playing since I was eight years old. I'm the only one that plays music, but I've been playing since I was eight years old. And when I was in elementary school, all my friends played hockey. One of them right over there. And I was like, man, I really want to play hockey. But I also wanted to play guitar. And my parents were like, okay, well, for your birthday, you could either play hockey or play guitar.

I think I made the right decision. I'd probably be a really mediocre hockey player. Oh, man. At best. But you would have looked good in a helmet. Yeah. I mean, you are hot. You are a hot guy.

Yeah, you're hot. You're hot. Hot enough to be a hockey player. Yeah. There's a lot of hot hockey players. People are getting hotter, too. The jam bands are getting hotter. Yeah, the jam bands are getting getting hotter We're trying real hard

So at 8 years old Was your dad your big inspiration? Totally He was like a songwriter And you know I remember very quickly Wanting to like Learn some song from him

And I think it was The only living boy in New York, Simon and Garfunkel. Awesome. And I was like, can you show this to me? He's like, why don't you just sit by the speaker and try and learn it yourself. And so it very quickly became an organic and creative way to play music.

Wow. I think I wrote my first song when I was nine. What was it about? Whatever a nine-year-old thinks about. I don't know. I'm trying to figure it out. I was like nine What was it about? Whatever a nine year old thinks about I don't know, trying to figure it out I was thinking about women in nine Nine years old is fourth grade? Or third grade?

Yeah, something like that Maybe third So were you singing? I was singing, yeah And Donnie and I have been writing songs together Since we started playing music together you know? Um, and you know, Donnie and I have been writing songs together, you know, since we started playing music together and, um,

it's just been like a really great experience to have somebody to be creative with like my whole life and, and kind of find our identity in, in playing music together. Were you guys outcast at your school? I don't think so. He's too hot. I don't think I was a popular

person. We had a good time. We had a good time. We were friends with a lot of people. You guys went to high school? I also went to high school with these guys. I've known Jake and Donnie for so long. I've been playing music with Jake for as long

as there's been music in my life, pretty much. The other day, I shared a hilarious video of me and Jake when we're so small playing Hysteria by Muse at a high school talent show. Oh, it's so great. I'll show you the video. Is it good? Oh, it's great. We'll have to throw it in. We'll throw it on the podcast. Give it to us. We'll throw it in the pod. It's great. It's class act. So were you bummed that these two were starting music before when you were in high school? How did that work?

You two were writing music senior year. When did you want to join the band? I was always a musician also. I was like really into jazz when I was like around musician also. I was really into jazz when I was around that age. I went to arts high school where I

studied jazz very intensely. What town are you guys from? The high school we went to was Amity High School. Shout out. Shout out. Shout out. It was a regional high school so there's like three different towns. We're actually from all Shout out to New Haven. Shout out to 203 BOW. Let's go. It was a regional high school,

so there's like three different towns. We're actually from all three of the different towns that our high school was. But yeah, you know, so it was always cool. We were always like, you know, skipping class, hanging out in the band room, just like watching YouTube videos. Like I have so many memories of sitting at an old computer in the

band room at our high school with me and Jake just watching like hours and hours of music videos when we should have been in math class or I love it. Were you guys good students? I applied myself I'll put it this way we're all smart kids students? When I applied myself.

I'll put it this way. We're all smart kids, but were we good in school? Being smart and being a good student. I'd wait until the mid-mark and then be like, all right, I got to turn this around. Got to make this a B. That was my move. Were your parents all strict?

I don't think I really grew up with strict parents. They're pretty kind of, you're going to figure this out on your own. They're incredibly supportive parents. Like anything I think that I would have devoted my attention to, they were in full support of. Like when I was really into sports, they were there to take me to every single thing i wanted to do what i played you know baseball and soccer and whatever i did right they're like you're gonna we'll take

you there whatever you want to do for school if you can get into it we'll help you out um in whatever way but with music too they were just you know it took a long time for them to like realize that this was the thing because i was kind of like a late bloomer into music but they just incredibly supportive of the journey but not very strict no my house was always like the house to

go smoke weed at in the basement let's go as long as you don't drive or you can drive whatever they let you drive where would you guys the cool parents? As long as you don't drive kind of thing? Yeah. Or you can drive, whatever. They let you drive. So where would you guys have band practice? First at my house. And then we migrated over to...

Yeah, once I came back from college, we moved into my mom's basement. Did you guys all go to college together too? No. No, Jake and I went to college together because we have separation anxiety. Oh, this is cute. This is like gang gang.

It's like you and Floyd. Yeah, it's me and Floyd. We like, the first year after high school, we went sort of separate ways for a year. I went to Israel. Jake went to Hartford. And then we coalesced. Two different places.

Very, very disparate places. But we coalesced and we went to like a state college in Connecticut, mainly for the reason of just being able to continue our band yeah like satisfied that like we're going to college for our parents and also we're getting to do the thing that we really want to do yeah like how is that like you know you know like it seemed like you always knew you wanted to be a musician how hard was it to say like bite the bullet and say i'm going to school not to be a musician? Or did you guys go to school for music? We went to school for music, technically.

But you could have been like, I want to be a piano player. I've never played before and you can major in music at the school. It wasn't like an audition type thing. there was a very huge gap between you know ability

and everything at a school like that so you know we were lucky to you know they had practice rooms and pianos and stuff and it was basically a continuation of you know not being exactly where you're supposed to be but still playing music you know

crazy what school did you go to? I went to Berkeley and so did Alex oh here we go but still playing music. Crazy. What school did you go to? I went to Berkeley and so did Alex. Oh, here we go. Shouts out to Berkeley. Two members of every East Coast jam band must go to Berkeley. There's a criteria. Where did you go? Hart School? Hartford or something?

Southern Connecticut State University. Guess which one graduated. Can I guess? I did. You did. You did. You can tell. And my mom is... I mean, yeah, it's like 40,000 a year, right?

But it's also way cooler to not graduate. They say if you graduate Berkeley, you failed. It's true. That's a real saying. Alex is a couple years younger than us. And when he joined our outfit He was still in college

And we were like Gotta drop out Like come on dude What are you doing? I do this rock and roll thing So how'd you meet Alex? They just picked me up off the street I love it

Like any good true drummer Yeah exactly We actually We competed against each other in a battle of the bands my uh my band in college we were we were just kind of doing like local gigs and stuff it wasn't like anything like crazy serious but we wanted to get into a festival slot and we did this battle the bands eggy was the other one of the other bands. Who was the drummer then? Of our band?

Our friend Chris. Who we went to high school with. Where is he now? I think he's in a Subaru shop. Is he pissed that your band's popping now? I think he's excited for us. Oh, he's not a hater? He's not a hater?

Hard to say. Yeah, the truth comes out. Yeah, let's go. Let's get down. Let's get dirty. Let's get dirty. Can we phone Chris in right now? We found the Achilles heel in this bed. There we go. So you guys met in Berkeley? No, we didn't.

He finished right when I was coming in. So we just missed each other so we didn't we didn't know each other at all in boston like i just i met them at the battle of the bands eggy won we had some mutual friends though yeah yeah people in your band ended up like living in mike's old house yeah there was a little connection crossover but yeah when they won the battle of bands uh like six months later later the drummer left and you know

they remembered me and they were like that guy was alright well it's really cool because well first of all I think you didn't win also because your band name was called Nark oh my god we knew it we found him

we knew there was a Nark in this band it was with a K. Not a good move in the jam band scene to be called a narc. It was really cool because we started the band young and we knew Chris in high school and everything like that too. And obviously

you reach a certain point where you're like, okay, is this what we're doing for real? And to have met Alex in the way that we did, he ended up becoming a fan of the band and knew some of our songs and was really supportive. We played the first set of the weekend of that festival and there was probably like 10 people and Alex was one of them. I was like singing along to Eggie songs.

So that whole like... With pins on it. Oh, yeah. Really? Oh, yeah. You're one of those? Yeah, yeah. Roots bands of...

Yeah, yeah. Yep. Yep. So it's better than the... He used to be a Wook. You're a recovering Wook. You're a recovering Wook. Yeah, he had his backpack and was like selling weed around my dad.

And he's like, this is the guy. I'm like, this is the guy. That's an ideal drummer right there. It was just awesome because so much of getting to know somebody, we hit it off in that way. But knowing that you supported what had a similar vision

and believed in our music was a really cool way to bring somebody into the band, especially once it had already been going on. Mutual appreciation for it all. It's like, oh, this dude likes Onitsuka Tiger. Yeah, one of our songs. He's going to have fun. These guys get along too good.

Yeah, I don't like it. You all live together? And you still like each other? I mean, you pretty much live together on the road. I guess it's like the same thing. Going back to your dad, was your dad ever jealous that you actually followed your dream and he didn't I think that

he has like that's probably been like his biggest support for me is that you know he doesn't still doesn't really love what he does he's like an insurance agent or whatever and just has been able to like channel that

love and that dream that you know not like he's it's not like the sports dad of being like you gotta you gotta do this for me or anything like that but just like has always embraced um my passion in like a really beautiful way and um, um, you know, but as far as like getting it, especially once started getting into like jam bands and stuff, you know, I remember like going on some drive with him and, and listening to some like, I think it was like the great wet bathtub gin or whatever. And being like, this is, this is like the, this is the version of the song.

Like you got to listen to it. And like, it. And 10 minutes in, he's like, I keep waiting for the part that's supposed to be the moment. The whole thing. But now he's calling me. He's like, oh, I just heard the song from Umphreys. He's like totally. He's in. He's in now.

You got him in the scene. Got him in the scene. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to like Denco shows nice without me so were you guys like

as kids like going to Phish concerts and shit like that was your thing that's your band that's like your everybody has like their favorite jam band

you know Jake Jake and I and Donnie is like we've seen lots of Phish shows together yeah you know we

when they when Phish got back together in 2009 2010 I mean we did we did a lot of shows. How many? Were you selling sandwiches and shit?

Did the whole nine? Or were you the weekender? It was a thought. It was? We're going on the road. We were trying to figure it out how to do more. You need the garlic butter on the grilled cheese. That's how you reel them in.

Yeah. more. You need the garlic butter on the grilled cheese. That's how you reel them in. There were times in college where last minute, I would leave class and be like, all right, we're going to a fish show.

Someone's like, I'm picking you up. Where are you? I'm like, I'm literally in class right now. It's like, all right, I'm going to go. Are you guys worried about records? Yeah, we're worried about records, but we're not worried necessarily. Is it important to you?

It's important to us because especially so much of, we have one record out. It was a record we did and it came out in 2019. That took us like two years to record that we feel like is, you know, we're, we're, we're distanced from it at this point.

And when we started touring a lot more in 2019 and then the pandemic hit and we just, afterwards we just came out and hit the road. We haven't really been able to tap in yet to that side of us, which is studio. And, you know, we do a lot of improvising live.

It's like you make the decision, you forget about it because you have to move on. But I think what we crave right now is the like deliberate decision of this is what I want to be on record for the rest of, you know, existence. What, what's your writing process? Do you guys write like a hundred songs or like,

how do you, how do you do that? Um, I think, uh, you know, existence. What, what's your writing process? Do you guys write like a hundred songs or like, how do you, how do you do that? Um, I think, uh, you know, we've, especially when we think about an album or whatever, I think that what's been happening is, you know, even if we think, oh, we're going to record this song, something ends up coming out and whatever feels like the most present and fresh. And I think that what we're trying to kind of get to a place of since we've started like recording and, and going into our next album pursuit is like, just want to capture a moment in time, you know,

and, and know that it's going to happen again and know that we're going to continue to write music and, you know, quicker from the idea to the execution of it and not dwell on um you know i think that i want to be able to listen to the album and still feel like that's present when i feel like oftentimes when it takes a long time um you know you do feel detached even by the time it comes out. And so I think our writing process is kind of just always be writing,

you know, always try and come up with stuff and whatever resonates. And that's what's cool about living together is, you know, you can kind of see that spark happen immediately. It immediately happens from if I write something and you're in the room or whatever, you can already feel that excitement towards it. And it definitely encourages you to just keep on that path and keep developing it.

What's going on in Connecticut? Everybody is so fucking serious. Yeah, you guys are very serious. It's amazing. It's pretty amazing. I have a question about the album thing, though. The last one took you two years. Are you going to try to write this one? Did it take a long time because of money, or were you just writing for two years? Well, Alex was

in school, so the first two years of me being in the band I was still in school. That's a lot of writing. Two years. Do you think you'll try to crank this one out faster because it's easier to capture a moment in time if you're doing it quicker? You know what I mean? Yeah, I think just trust our intuition more.

We were doing one or two days in the studio for a weekend and then you go back to school or whatever. So it dragged on and on. And with this, I think that we just want to kind of live inside that moment and have it be a chapter and not think of it so much as like, this is how we're defining ourselves.

It's more just like a picture. Yeah, like a yearbook. What about our lyrics? How important are lyrics to you? I'd say they're very important to us, especially being in our current age and stuff and

really starting this experience together. We only really started touring seriously for the last year. Holy shit. Really? Yeah. What were you doing before that? Week. Holy shit. Really? Yeah. Yeah. What were you doing before that? Like Weekend Warrior around the Northeast? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think we're at a point in our life where, you know, we're trying to figure out what it all means.

And I think the artists that resonate with us the most are people that say that unexplainable thing, the thing where you're like, how do you find words to those types of feelings? Yeah. And just trying to tap into whatever our truth is, you know? And I feel like sometimes it could feel like a burden trying to figure that out. But it's also when you unlock that part of you,

you know, writing lyrics, especially as like a mirror, you know, like, and the more you do it, the more things will come out of you that you didn't necessarily intend to have come out.

Like what's important in truth. Like what is the truth that you're talking about? Like brotherhood, companionship, getting older. Like what? Yeah. Yeah. come out. What's important in truth? What is the truth that you're talking about? Brotherhood? Companionship? Getting older? I think all that and everything in between and where we fit in

the world and what our beliefs are. I think a lot of our lyrics end up becoming about navigating where we are in life and just trying to

figure out and we also have songs about sneakers and portable air scrubbers I'll clap to that, let's go You have to J-bands have to have songs about nothing You know, we have a song, Tom Cornwalker, that it's from the perception of a British band in Iowa

seeing a bunch of corn. Touring through Iowa. I like that. We sing it in British accents. It's refreshing to have that type of stuff that takes you out of the thought provoking we forget that music is supposed to be fun too

I think we've talked about it before but it's kind of like our philosophy is take things really seriously but at the same time figure out a way just to have fun and be silly with it. And like, take it really seriously at, at some point in time so that you can get to that relaxed state where like,

you can just be silly. And we're, you know, singing in British accents on stage or doing an interview in Florida where we all did British accents for this public access TV channel. What's your British accent? Let's hear it. Very good. No, it's not great, but

there are times where you have to do it. Pretty good. Sounds a little more Australian. And I can tell you guys are a very serious band. I've never seen this man smile ever in my life. I like that about him. I like that because it is supposed to be fun, but it's also, this is our livelihood.

And we're not on the road just to dick around and just to be on the road. When I was young, when I was 19, when I first was on the road, I was doing that. I was just chasing pussy and drinking and blah, blah, blah. But now as I'm dialing it in and taking less drugs and really focusing on the music,

we could talk about it being fooling around, but this takes so much brain effort to fucking do this for a living and do this 365 days a year. You know what I'm saying? So for you to take it seriously is beautiful. And for you guys to be,

I watch your promos that you're all singing and shit. You guys really love each other. And that's important too, because a lot of bands fucking hate each other. So, that's definitely one thing that we have that, you know, sometimes we even

forget about it sometimes, you know, but we really are like a group of brothers. We love each other so much. We're best fucking friends. And y'all live together? What about your girlfriend? She lives with the whole band? Fiance? But then when they're on the road, she has a whole place to herself.

That's true. That's pretty sick, actually. Is it hard to be married and having like, these are like the you know, technically you're starting now with touring. So like, you stopping touring isn't going to happen anytime soon. Does she like feel stressed that you're never going to be home? Um, you know, I think that we both

obviously want to spend as much time together as possible. Um, but you know, being with her for almost nine years now, I mean, she's been through every band member change, been through the full-time job, and coming time to sign a new lease together and being like, I'm not going to sign this lease with a false foundation of some job that I'm not actually going to keep. And she's the most amazing person. She moved into my parents' house with me for a year

while we were kind of figuring shit out. While you were on tour? She was living with your parents? This was before tour. So you were there. And then we moved in together about three years ago and she came in to the house and just truly the

most supportive person. Is she a musician too? Can we clap for her? What a badass. That's a musician too? No. Can we clap for her? Let's clap for her. What a badass. That's a bad motherfucker. Let's go. She's very insightful and has been what I love about

her is she loves all of you guys and we're all so close together in that way. She's our best friend too. She's the fifth member have you guys ever gotten a fight almost broken up um i think that we've definitely being in in my life and it's a very demanding thing and being with somebody when you're 20 years old um A lot of the, you know, I remember once I, I like, I wrote some lyrics when I was like 21 or something that was like uncertain of the outcomes of the promises I make. And because

it's a dream, right? To do this as a dream, it's a blessing to see it work out in any capacity. And it's a huge belief in yourself, you know? And so to go through the chapters of being in a band and, you know, the world shutting down and all of these types of things, it's like, you know, we're also living a real life together and building a relationship together. And, together and building a relationship together. And, you know, so I think that we've had very serious conversations throughout, you know, in making the commitment to marry somebody. With Fisk?

What's that? With Fisk? Oh, no. I want to see some Jerry Springer shit going on. They filmed that in Connecticut, so maybe we could. We could arrange it. Yeah. Eggie breaking up. Live on Jerry Springer. Connecticut, they filmed that in Connecticut, so maybe we could arrange it. Eggie, breaking up.

Live on Jerry Springer. But you know, just like it's a road. You guys know. Especially when you make your first record in 2019 and then you feel like you have some movement with the band that bam, quarantine. It's got to be a mindfuck.

Yeah, most of our fans like you know they've met us through the screen of doing live streams right like a really weird way to come out into touring yeah and then you don't know how it's going to manifest like when things open up like we didn't know like or if it will at all you know right right yeah but like are these people that are online like are they going to be still be there are they going to like show up to the shows and stuff and and thank you these free streams but are they are you going to pay money to come see it right right and they are it looks like you're packing out shows it's it's working out it's it's you know it's incredible to like see the other side of of all that yeah you know like it really it did definitely did test

us and there was a lot of like very stressful nights like you know when you're when you're living together and like but also touring and like see you know you're seeing a lot of each other but you're also like seeing a lot of each other out on the road and in new places and stuff, it's always fresh. But in quarantine, it was just us for a year and a half, which there was incredible times, incredible moments musically and just with each other as friends. But there was a lot of tough nights. Isn't it weird? You do these live streams and there's thousands of people on the stream

and you're like, fuck yeah. And then you turn off the stream. It's just you four. The after party is just your house. It's so weird. It sounds like my dream. You're a psychopath. Just me.

We had set up a streaming thing in our studio in our basement. And we'd end the streams and go upstairs and sit on the couch and be like, all right, so... You want to play Call of Duty? Sit there and read the comments. I don't know. What do we do? Did people like it? Did the internet shut down halfway through? Oh, that happened many times.

So many times where we'd be playing that it would cut out. We have no idea. And you guys are like, this is the best jam we've ever done. And it was. It was always the best one. And then an hour later,

it's like, oh, you haven't been online for 35 minutes. You need a bow. Yeah, you need a bow. I have a question. You said you lived in Israel for a year? I did. Did you do the military?

I didn't do the military. No, it was like a gap year program. My dad is from Israel, so I have some family over there and stuff. I want to know if the Israeli military is harder than touring in a jam band. That's a good question. I'd have to imagine. I don't know. Depends on your division, maybe.

Yeah, exactly. Some people just have desk jobs. What if you're just in the Coast Guard or something like that? Well, you have to join the military at 16. So he's old, a little old, right? No, he was 18. Oh, he was 18. But I was over there just like, you know, as a student.

Right, okay. And, you know, I got to experience, like, the military is, like, super integrated into, like, things. And, you know, so I got to have some sort of like connection with with how that all works like I did do like a it was like this like two month program where they kind of like like make you a soldier

yeah yeah yeah like where you like learn about like Israeli military like history and all these things just in case like loaded gun shit let's just keep this guy in the back burner in case we need him. You never know when shit might go down. It was just really cool to

learn through that way about the history of the country and stuff. Where I have half my family is over there. Tell me about Israeli women. Are they beautiful?

They're the most beautiful women on earth. Oh my God, they're gorgeous. Have you been over there since then a bunch? I've not. No, it's been like 12 years. Are you all Jews? I really miss it. Three, honorary.

I'll clap to that. Let's go. You throw a key paw on Alex. At Passover, when we do Passover because again, we all live together. We do it all together. He puts a little yarmulke on. I'm like, this is such a nice Jewish boy. He's got the hair for Judaism. Do you guys deal with any anti-Semitism?

Jamstein doesn't really. It's Connecticut. Not directly. Exactly. If you live in Iowa, it would be different. I'd say we weren't a minority in our hometown. Probably not.

But on the road, this is the first touring... Last couple months, the first couple months where I'd be at a gas station and they could totally tell I'm Jewish and start talking shit. Really? Oh yeah, like three or four times. You don't believe in Russia, do you?

I'm like, what the fuck? What does that have to do with anything? We had a guy who cost us at a McDonald's one time because I wear a Star David Yeah, I noticed. Just kidding. You can see it shining, the gold

shining. And we were just at the McDonald's getting a cheeseburger. And this weird guy walks up to me and Jake, he goes, you Jewish? And I was like, yeah. He's like, you Jewish? Where? And I'm like, I'm Jewish. Everywhere?

Everywhere. Well, to be fair, you were eating dairy with meat. Yeah. I wasn't sure what he was getting at. What does that mean where in your body like where every right here my dna my heart yeah it's definitely a weird weird time it is yeah like all the kanye's shit yeah um definitely you know one of our jokes is like uh when we're on the road it's's like, there's no Jews here.

Yeah, drive through a town and be like, how many Jews do you think live in this town? Zero. Oh, for sure. The city I grew up in is like 350,000 people. I looked it up. There's 450 Jewish households. Why you looking that up? Can you send me all the

addresses of those 450? I look up random shit all the time You know it about me I mean you've toured You've toured like Europe and Yeah And Asia and stuff

I got arrested in Germany last Yeah that's right What happened to your drug test? Did you hear back? No but they took my money That means I just took my thousand bucks Have you found that there's a difference? Oh yeah

Well there's a Also a nationalism thing Where they're not Really into Americans Right No one's really Europe It would never have been like that The Dutch were nice to us Yeah but they have this like Well, there's also a nationalism thing where they're not really into Americans. Right. No one's really... Europe, it would never have been like that. The Dutch were nice to us.

Yeah, but they have this like, oh, you put us in this fucking thing where now we have $15 a gallon gases. They're just... Come on. But, you know, they blame Americans for fucking with Russia. Yeah. But I want to know. I know we got to get out of here, but I'm very proud of your band.

I'm really proud that you guys are kicking ass and not, no surrender. That's how it is. First year is hard. I want to know what were the shittiest gigs on the tour? You don't have to say names. What was the weirdest gigs on this first year tour? We played this like cannabis event. Yeah.

What is this and it was like a private event for like big cannabis you know like oh like pharma big pharma yeah like colorado or ohio oh yeah they just legalized it and we were like oh this is gonna be sick everyone's gonna be like stoned right like vibing out to the music. Everyone was like lined up in like the back of the room, arms crossed. Yeah, because it was big. They wouldn't let,

you couldn't smoke inside. Yeah. And it was a cannabis event. So everybody was outside the whole time. And also people were there like, you know, five hours before we played.

It's like, it's weed. Yeah. You're puffing the whole time. Yeah, they're going to bed. It's all like, this is the best, this is the whole time. Yeah, they're going to bed. This is the best bit. They had arranged like a party bus to take the stoned

people like back to their hotels or whatever. The party bus showed up to pick everybody up like in the middle of our set. Oh my god. Was it Columbus? Don't say names. We don't want to blast the spot. Well, I'm pretty sure I played this exact same event

like the year before. Yeah. You know, but yeah, so the party buzz came in the middle of our set and picked up everybody and they left. Like, what the fuck? Second song in.

And of course, we didn't realize that until we got off the stage. Where was everybody? Yeah, we thought everyone hated ourselves. Went back to the hotel. Thank you, Columbus. Good night. Wow.

It's just our manager, Dan, in the back. I can't believe a private event organized by potheads didn't go well. Well, boys, I'm stoked. I'm on, I'm stoked. I'm on the Aggie train. So whatever you need from me, you let me know. Whenever you have a record out, I would love it.

Just get on the show. Money. You need money? Fuck yeah. I'll throw you some shekels. But I just want to say, you know, it's going to be this ups and downs of this whole career. And through the jam scene, how less people are going to jam music shows. Recently,

don't fucking give up. Because you guys are really good songwriters and you're really good vocalists and you're great musicians. I just, through this thing of ups and downs

of living with each other, maybe he kicks y'all out because he wants to actually have a life with his wife. Whatever it is. Through the ups and downs of throughout being a band, just stick with it because you guys are talented and you guys love each other.

I can tell from you guys really care about each other. Keep going forward. I got one last question. When it's all said and done, what does Eggie want to be remembered by? We all look to Donnie. Eggie want to be remembered by as in how we to Donnie. Eggie want to be remembered by as in how we want people to

remember Eggie or how we want to remember Eggie? No, both. Both? You know, we were kind of talking late into the night last night, and I think that the thing that we value the most about Eggie is our relationship together and the joy

that we bring like playing music together. Um, something that we feel is like, you know, irreplaceable. So I think, I guess speaking personally, but maybe speaking for everybody, like the thing that I want to be, you know, Eggie to be remembered by is just the love that we have for each other and for the music and for, you know, we, we couldn't be doing what we're doing if it wasn't for, you know, the sacrifice of people before us and, and people that have helped pave the way for us. People in our lives that are no longer with us, that are rooting us on from the other side and just really want to, you know, just bring honor to the music that we play and,

and have the most fun that we can and be remembered for just the, just that joy and love. This is, I'm telling you, this guy has the biggest dick in the band. He's tallest. He's tall. He's quiet.

When he comes in, he goes for the pounding. I'm telling you the hog leg. He's got that energy. That's Scorpio energy, man. This man's single. He won't be single for long though.

Yeah. Someone's going to pick up that Jewish hammer. For sure. What about you guys? What about, what about Someone's going to pick up that Jewish hammer. For sure. What about you guys? What about you, bud? What do you want to be remembered by? You know, I think you killed it there. It's hard to follow that up. You know,

I think that we just want to be remembered by people that were just honest and enjoyed life together. And we are serious about what we do, but that we didn't take it too seriously as far as this is meant to be fun and a really cool experience. And we can help people in any way experience that same love that we have for each other and have people meet each other through our music

or find some type of home or salvation in what we do or just a place to take a load off and just tap into a good time. you know, a good time. Right. You know, and we don't need to get into it, but, you know, our band name is in the memory of our good friend, Edward, Eggie Torrance, who unfortunately passed away. From what?

An overdose. And very strangely, we named the band after him. Before. Before all that happened, it was just like a joke around the lunch table. And it kind of became this serendipitous thing that... I think that that's why there's a serious undertone to everything that we do, is that it's not just a representation of ourselves, but just carrying his legacy and his name

and having him live on forever. He has a good fucking friends. Through what we do. That's good. Because, was it opiates? Yeah. Just a fucking killer. Silent killer, man.

Yeah. Crazy. Well, let's clap it up for Eggie. Edward, we're doing it for you. Hell yeah, we are. And don't let your dad be too serious about you. You go crowd surf. You go fucking do the thing.

He's having a great time. He's our biggest cheerleader. I love it. Well, thanks for being on the show. Kill it in Cervantes. You guys are on the up and up and I'm just stoked to uh watch it all unfold so keep going eggy is down eggy hell yeah let's go thank you eggy

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