Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 216: Henry AZ

Episode Date: April 25, 2023

Beats & Shawn sing us into this episode with some important warning to all you momma's out there. Then: Hot Takes by some Hot Guys. Is Frasco a Frat Daddy or a Jam Daddy? (Let's just hope he's not an actual dad, amirite?!) And on the Interview Hour we got phenomenal rapper and Cape Cod native, Henry AZ! Find out the origins of his and Frasco's friendship and the background to how he writes such impactful lyrics. Don't forget to subscribe and imbibe the buttery flow of Henry AZ No more compliments, please. Call us, leave a message, and give us the DIRT: [phone]  Watch this episode streaming now!! Pre-save You Do You on apple music and/or Spotify! Psyched to partner up with our buddies at Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. And don't forget to catch the band in a town near you andyfrasco.com/tour Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out our good friends that help us unwind and sleep easy while on the road and at home: dialedingummies.com Check out Andy Frasco & The U.N. (Feat Little Stranger)'s new song, "Oh, What A Life" on iTunes, Spotify  Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Andee "Beats" Avila Shawn Eckels Arno Bakker

Now, a message from the UN. Don't let them drink whiskey or eat lots of drugs. Let them be doctors and lawyers and such. Mama, don't let your babies grow up to be frasco. Cause they'll never be home, they'll be beaten off alone. Even with someone they love Frasco ain't easy to love And he smokes lots of weed He'd rather give you some shrooms

Than something you actually need Birkenstocks, sandals And old Lakers jerseys than something you actually need. Birkin socks, sandals, and old Lakers jerseys. Each night begins a new day. If he doesn't text back and he don't die young, he'll probably just crowd surf away. Mamas, don't let your daughters grow up to date frasco Cause he'll cuss at

Thanksgiving, smoke pot with grandma, and stink up your whole goddamn house Mamas don't let your daughters grow up to date frasco They'll have lots of sex Get HPV

Blame it on her ex-boyfriend's mouth Fucking beautiful So they like Do it again And we're back Hungover Andy Frasco's What's left of Andy Frasco

Hangover podcast And I'm Andy Frasco It is a Wednesday morning Fuck off I gotta stop hanging out with 25 year old up and coming Jambans Bands

Not naming anyone in specific No I'll tell you Well they don't eat out them I'm not I mean, it's okay to party Yeah, but you were doing party stuff I was up till 5am talking about ween I don't even know anything about fucking ween

They like ween? Yeah They are dirtbags then I like ween, but that's a dirtbag band I like Why? Because that's what they do It's not even an insult, it's like dirtbag vibes I think that's a dirtbag band I like. Why? Because that's what they do. It's not even an insult. It's like dirtbag vibes.

I think what's more dirtbaggy? Ween? Disco biscuits or ween? Ooh. Hmm. Wow, we're going hot takes right from the beginning. I'm going to go ween, actually, because it's more like a rock punk thing. And dirtbag's not a bad term, right?

No. If anything, it's a respectful honor to be called a dirtbag by me. I like dirtbags. I do too. They're the shit. They're fun. But they are dirtbags. You're kind of a dirtbag sometimes. I'm a dirtbag. You're definitely a dirtbag right now. I gotta stop partying with these

25-year-old bands. Yeah. They look up to me like they call me frat daddy Or not frat daddy Jam daddy It's so funny because you're not even like a jam band guy No but I'm like they look up to me

Maybe you need to break out of this jam band bubble And become a real star I'm going to date a born again Christian And we're not going to have any conversations We're just going to stare at the wall And we're just going I'm just going to clean up my act for the next 20 years. You're going to get married, is what you're saying.

Yep, all relationships are boring. Maybe that's your problem is that you look at relationships as some boring thing. Yeah, I do. Oh, they can be. Anything can be boring, though. I mean, relationships are kind of boring. So is being single sometimes Yeah I'm over this single shit

Everything's boring life is boring And it's way too long I'm just kidding Are you good? Are you good? I'm fine I don't know I'm good I'm been doing good I'm having a good week

I gotta stop doing cocaine. Yeah, it's stupid. I mean, I don't do it a lot, but when I do it, I feel like shit. It's not like a fun drug, really. No, I don't like how I feel all speedy, too. That's what it is. It is speed. You know that, right? I know. I'm at the bar, and I'm anxious. The Lakers are losing by 15.

I'm just like, I just want to smoke a cigarette. You just don't have a coke vibe. I don't know why I do it. To think of you doing coke is like, what? It's not fun. I have coke friends that are like, oh yeah, that's a coke guy. I know a bunch of coke guys.

And it works for their lifestyle. Yeah, I guess so. I don't know. Cocaine doesn't work for any lifestyle everyone on cocaine is just weird yeah without kind of everybody on everything's kind of weird though right maybe what's what are people weirder on cocaine or ketamine you would think it's ketamine but i actually think it's cocaine yeah it's kind of mean people are going to keep to themselves more right yeah cocaine people like i got back in high school. I was pretty good at basketball.

They're always talking about high school. Why are people on Coke? They always talk about the past. They love to talk about shit they used to do, people on cocaine, or they have an idea. Yeah. A lot of ideas come up on cocaine

that never come to fruition, but that's booze too, though. It's like you guys have conversations right in front of each other's faces. And they spit in each other's mouth. It's like you guys have conversations right in front of each other's faces. And they spit in each other's mouth. Brother! I fucking love you, brother! I fucking love you, bro! No, you don't.

You're on a speed. You just have a bunch of whatever coursing through your veins right now. I don't even know what cocaine does, honestly. Serotonin? The problem is I'm an alcoholic. That's the thing about cocaine. A lot of people, it's just

alcoholics doing it so they can stay up and drink longer. Yeah, that's what it is. I was pounding. I pounded like six or seven shots at the bar. You are 35, Andy. I mean, I was getting egged on by the 25 year olds.

I don't have as much willpower as you. If a bunch of 25-year-olds told you to jump off a bridge, would you do it? Probably, actually. I think you would. It's like a deep bridge. Yeah, like is it sponsored? Andy Fresco jumps off a bridge for whatever, you know.

Sponsored by Dialed and Gummies. Some parachute company. It's a parachute company. Oh Oh my God. Am I the NASCAR of... No. I mean, I would love to be. We only have one sponsor. We have two. We have two sponsors. Should we talk about them? No. You guys don't get any ads this week.

Sorry. And you're not getting your money back. Too late, bitch. Oh, yes. It's the first of the month. Is it? Yeah. I promise I won't be late again because you made fun of me in front of all your fucking fan-based minions. I like that you're late

because it gives me a little material for a bit because I wasn't actually mad. I'm catching up on bills. You weren't that late. I like that you're a little bit poor right now. I'm poor. I got you right where I want you. All right. You weren't that late. I like that you're a little bit poor right now. I'm poor. I got you right where I want you. Alright, let's talk about

Waiting and wanting more. Okay, which one are you talking about first? Doubt and gummies. Will you do the pits? I'm so tired. You mean like every other fucking time? Yes. I have been drinking a lot these days. I've been drinking.

I know. I gotta stop But you're going to play with a band tonight Are you gonna get drunk again? Um No Here's what you should do Have two drinks

Just to get you to a gig And then go home right when you're done I know But the problem is I'm playing second set I'm sitting in second set And I gotta be there at six So I go there

Why do you gotta be there at six? Oh soundcheck Soundcheck What am I gonna do? Go home? What time's the gig? Nine. Dialed in gummies, everyone. Solventless, flavorful.

Because if I eat any dialed in gummies or if I eat anything else, I'll just pass out. I think I'm going to eat a bunch of dialed in gummies before I come in the club tonight. But I did. You'd be proud of me. It was 5 a.m. and they're still singing Ween songs. I'm like, I got to get the fuck to bed. Why are they doing that? I mean, 25, I guess they're young. You were 25, too. I never did that shit

when I was 25. They're popping. They're starting to become a big band. You would never catch me. I was 25 just hooking up and doing blow. Yeah, I used to party when I was 25, but I wasn't. Not with other dudes. Well, Phyllis was there. I'm just kidding. She's kind of a dude. She's got a dude energy. She's got dude vibes. She's definitely one of the

guys. She's definitely one of the guys. You know what I mean? She was just playing Harry Potter while I bought her. Until five in the morning. I'm like, Phil, I gotta go to bed, dude. Where is she in your Voltron right now? Voltron? I mean, she's up there. She's like probably like an important... What role does she

fill? She, um... Well, when I'm having anxiety, like I told you I had a panic attack. Oh, yeah. I called her and she came to my house. I'm having anxiety, like I told you I had a panic attack. I called her and she came to my house. I'm like, Phil, I think I'm dying. What was it again? Because you had a cough or something?

It was absolutely stupid. My allergies were really bad. And I had a panic. I thought I was dying or had cancer or something. So I called Phyllis. Phyllis, will you just sleep over and make sure I don't die Because it would be really embarrassing if I died Embarrassing?

Just if I died over allergies Dying is pretty embarrassing actually In general I don't want to publicly die What do you mean? Like get shot You don't? In an accident, no

Like Tupac, no Yeah, me shot or... You don't? In an accident. No, like two pogno. Oh. Yeah, me neither, I guess. I don't know. But dying is embarrassing. It is a little embarrassing. Just admitting to all your friends you're dead. Everyone knows you're dead.

You can't hide it. Yeah. Oh, man. It's just like a wedding is embarrassing. Admitting to your... You love someone in front of your parents. Kissing a girl in front of your parents is... Maybe I should like...

So pathetic. Anyway, dialed in gummies. It's embarrassing to get married, guys. It's also embarrassing to die. Dialed in gummies. America's number one. And by America, I mean Colorado's number one gummy in my mind and in my heart. And probably in most sales departments.

Solventless, flavorful, perfect, no faults, the best containers. And I've been eating 20 to 30 milligrams every night again, and I'm feeling good and I'm sleeping great. Yeah. Strain specific.

Find your strain, find your cloud, bro. I can't even sleep in my bed right now. I think there's ghosts. So I've been sleeping on the couch. We need to get men over here and have them sweep the place. Do you think he could check it out? If there's ghosts here, Michael Min been sleeping on the couch. We need to get Minnert over here and have him sweep the place. Do you think he could check it out for me?

If there's ghosts here, Michael Minnert will sense it. Really? Yeah. Let's get him on the show. Yeah, he's going to come over. Plus, I want to talk to him about pretty lights. Oh, yeah.

If there is a ghost, I think it's in that room. Really? I get the vibe, but that room creeps me out a little bit. Really? I think he just chills around here. Yeah?

On the landing? Maybe he fell off the landing and died and he haunts the landing. Or she. Or they them. I don't know. It's not like a... Don't assume ghosts' gender. What? I respect that. Yeah, trans people have existed for centuries. You know what I mean? I respect that.

But it's not like the ghost is like being mean or like being scary. I think that's a big misconception. I think the ghost is just chilling in this house. He just wants to kick it. For sure. Like I've always said,

like if I could pick of anything after death, I would choose to be a ghost. Right. It's fun. You get to mess with stuff. You ever think about though? Really? Yeah.

You get to like haunt people. No, you'd really want to be a ghost? Oh yeah. I wouldn't like that. You could watch people have sex. That's kind of tight. Yeah. I knew you'd like that.

Like a little throuple, like a little ghost throuple. Imagine a Yenta like yourself as a ghost being able to spy on everyone. Oh, my God. I've been making fun of... You could watch people settle at gigs and see how much money they're making. Oh, I love that. I've already got you two things on being a ghost.

Look, I'd be a ghost, but... Exactly. But can ghosts travel? I don't know. I don't know. I don't think they're real. Can a ghost kick it? I'm not sure they exist, Andy, so I don't really know the rules.

Why not? Can they have a vacation, go to San Fran and go? Yeah, why not? Do you think they can see the other ghosts? That's what I've always wondered. Because that would be terrible. There'd be so many people have died. There's just people everywhere.

Little kids with holes in them. It's like a ghost traffic jam. All right, get the fuck out of my way. We're ghosts. Just go through me. What would you do to haunt people? I know you'd be a spy. You'd be a little spy.

I just like to sip tea. I just want to hear people's conversations. I like to move people's coffee when they're not looking, you know? Yeah? Yeah. I don't like that. That scared me. Why? I don't know. I mean, like I saw Phyllis. She gets wasted and starts opening all my packages. What? And she just gets drunk and forgets about it. It's. She gets wasted and starts opening all my packages. What?

And she just gets drunk and forgets about it. It's because she's poor and she never gets any packages. Hey, don't you say that. It's a joke. She's not poor. She's a little poor. Well, no. By your standards.

I'm poor too. Yeah. I'm not. Are we going into a recession? Yeah, like maybe a year ago Like I have such anxiety today Why? Because of the recession?

And the whole music industry? I'm not worried about the music industry I think the music industry is actually better than it was Yeah, the music industry is fine I'm talking about I better be able to rent this house Are you recession proof? No, you're not I'm not recession proof

You're completely self-employed and you have a big asset you pay for. Yeah. You have a massive loan on property. Yeah. Well, one advantage is, even with a recession, if this house lost value, you'd probably still make money on it. Yeah. You know, recessions can be good, too. You can't just always go up. You need a little

up and down in the economy or it's inflated. But I don't know. I'm not some goddamn economist. Who gives a shit what I think about anything? Says a guy who's on a podcast every week. Well, yeah, but I don't know everything. I know a lot. It's not an economy podcast.

Should I just stop drinking? Stop partying? No, don't stop. Like a middle area. You know that, right? That sounds so boring. What, just have one beer? No, like three drinks. You had like seven shots, you told me.

Seven shots, a couple vodka sodas. I have like two to three vodka sodas, maybe four. And that's perfect for me. I get a little buzz and I go home and I... The problem is, I don't like the taste of vodka sodas anymore. Because why? Because you're numb to it? No, because I'm just bored and it tastes boring. So I don't like the taste of vodka sodas anymore. Because why? Because you're numb to it? No, because I'm just bored and it tastes boring.

Why do you get bored with everything so easily? Because I'm ADD. I'm ADD. I don't get bored with stuff. Because I'm obsessive compulsive. When I like something, I'll do it. Do you have every disease there is known to man? Every fucking mental health disease that comes up?

I'm that too. You can't be everything. I know. I guess it was a little OCD up. I'm that too. You can't be everything. I know. I guess it was a little OCD maybe. I don't know. But not like any diagnosable level. But I don't... Can you just appreciate... I think you're just a dirt bag.

I'm just a teenage dude. I'm just a middle-aged dirtbag baby. That's that guy's real voice in that band. I woke up today thinking, am I in my midlife crisis? Oh, you're what? In the words of Dwight Schrute. Because I'm 35.

In the words of Dwight Schrute, you are well past the middle of your life. Like how long do you think I'll actually make it? I don't care. And I was kidding. I don't care And I was kidding I don't know God damn it Nick 30 years?

What? 40 years? Like 70s? Yeah mid to late 70s That's the average lifespan I think that'd be cool I think that medicine's gonna get crazy And people are gonna start living way too long though

It's gonna be bad I think they're gonna solve cancer in no time Yeah And that's gonna be bad actually Why? Because of overpopulation? People that's going to be bad, actually. Why? Because of overpopulation? People are going to live to be like 130 and shit, and there's just going to be old people being wheeled around in wheelbarrows everywhere, and all their

inheritance is going to go straight to the rich people of the medical industry. More people means more live streams. That's why you should sign up for volume.com. Boomers! You're living too long. No, I want my parents to live. I know you do do but the problem is that generation is really bad for everything and why oh they ruin the economy they're they

blame every generation after them for all the things they did all the selfish shit they did they were here in the world on a on a paper plate and they ruined it i just read a whole book about it so i'm pretty hot about about boomers right now. They also raised us too well. They were too nice to us growing up. That's like the participation trophy thing. They're like, who do you think gave us the participation trophies? The boomers gave it

to us. I think everyone should get a trophy. I love trophies. All right, Jill Biden. Why don't you invite all the old ones? Remember, she invited both teams That was whack dude That was whack Well you know that's this classic

Democrat pandering But she took it back to be fair And the White House never invited anyone So you can't really blame them She was just talking not a turn You know what I mean Whatever But you know the boomers

They have their issues They did go to Vietnam I guess But come on How many boomers are How long can you cash that in? How many boomers do you think are doing live streams on volume.com? I don't know. There's probably a couple of boomer

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Draymond Green has a broadcast on there. No, he doesn't. You're wrong about that. Oh, Taz told me that. I think that's a different volume. It's like a management company. Just bleep me out then. But we have a podcast. Only Taz told me that. Yeah. So sign up for volume.com.

He goes to Yale. He should know that. But he's a kid. He's got pussy on his mind. He does go to Yale He should know that But you know He's a kid He's got pussy on his mind He does go to Yale In my defense The man is looking hot Who? Taz

A little young for me I'm happy for him I'm happy for Dogs in the Pile What's he doing? All these young I mean they're just kicking ass Taz has been kicking ass

Since he was like 12 Their music He's playing great music. The women love him. Oh my God. He's tall. He's tall. He's handsome. He's like 6'5 now. I'm just proud of my 25-year-old up-and-coming musician. I don't think he's that old either. I think he's like 21.

And FYI, Taz was not doing cocaine with me. No, no way. He would never do cocaine. I don't think he does drugs at all. No, I don't think so. I don't think I've even had... He might have a drink or two here and there, but maybe. I don't think so. He's in college. He might have a couple beers.

But he goes to Yale. They can't be partying like that. I mean, those guys are professional partiers. Yeah, but they still have that essay due. I always hung out with those guys who went to Ivy League school. That's true. They do party, actually. They just party their ass off and then take an Adderall.

Yeah. We played a couple Ivy League shows, went back in the day and they would just party their dick off and then they're like it'd be four in the morning. They're fucking wasted. Like, fuck, I got an exam tomorrow. They'd pop an Adderall and just start studying. I'm like, fuck you for being so tight like that. I guess we do that.

We do the exact same thing all the time. We're like Ivy League school students. Yeah, we're Ivy League musicians. Hell yeah. Shout out. The Ivy League! Speaking of Ivy, we're Ivy League musicians. Hell yeah. Shout out. The Ivy League. The Ivy League. Speaking of Ivy League, we have a rapper. Do you think they have reggae in Ivy League?

Brown University. My friends are making a Christmas album. I'm like, oh my God. No more Christmas albums. Can we talk about this? No more new fucking Christmas albums. How about no more Christmas? I'm down.

And all holidays. Oh, just your religion can have your stupid holidays, but their religion can't have their stupid holidays? What if we just had one holiday? Okay, go on. One holiday and you get everything you needed for the whole year. Presents. Sex. Food. Family. Oh, I'm out.

When would it be though? March? I think March is a good time for that. Yes, probably in the wintertime. Like a week long maybe? Yeah, like a week long. That's why Christmas exists. It's literally to combat.

Are you doing all right over there? Are you guys just listening to this one? Maybe just pop this one on the audio. Yeah, don't watch this one on volume.com. Andy's brains are falling out of his nose. Anyway, I lost my train of thought about that. Oh, I hate cocaine. I literally only did like two lines.

You're just not a cocaine guy, which is good. Just don't do it anymore. It's not. You need me around all the time on your shoulder telling you not to do stuff. I know. And we hung out so much and I was like trying not to call you. We have and I tried not to like call you for a couple days. I like that you're a little scared of me.

You would think it'd be like, everybody probably thinks I'm like that with you because I'm like, well, you're the boss. You know what I mean? Maybe I'm the boss. I try to give you your space. I'm the alpha. I to give you your space I'm the alpha I want to come hang out

I wanted to see Hutch I know but Hutch even went to bed early He'll be here too Sean showed up to the party He went to bed early Sean or Shane? Sean I was impressed

So he showed up Toby was drinking I've been drinking She doesn't really drink We were all just having a good time And they all went to bed early like adults And I said I'm hanging out with the kids Maybe you need to get married and settle down

And have three kids I think I need a relationship I would like to see someone photoshop you Into a nice wholesome family I can't be single photoshop you into like a nice wholesome family. I can't be single anymore. As the dad in a nice wholesome family picture. I need a relationship. I need to watch television. Dude, TV is sick. I need my

head scratched. I'll say this. Is that what relationship people do now? Still use to scratch my head all the time. Oh yeah, you don't like intimacy though. I like intimacy. I'm just not like a complete loser. Do you ever like hold Julie's hand?

If I have to, you know, like if her... Do you ever like kiss her on the neck? Oh, yeah. Instead of just like... Do you ever like... What else? What other intimacy things do you do? You don't know that much.

Do you read a poem? All his intimacy things are going to be physical, by the way. No, I don't read poems. I hate poetry. You don't read poems to her? No, I don't like poetry unless it's set to a nice hip-hop beat. My dearest Julie, I've come here to let you know that you are the love of my life.

She'd be like, dude. She'd call me up. Yeah, I need to... I'm done. I need to have a relationship. I need to watch television. Why can't you just find a middle ground where you're just not a dirtbag

And you're single Because I am I can't When I go I go You need someone to hold you accountable Is what you're saying Yes

Because you can't hold yourself accountable And I can't I can't hold myself accountable What you're saying here All this is boiled down to Is you can't hold yourself accountable Which is fine There's nothing wrong with that

Hold on But you gotta admit it I'm holding myself accountable I'm talking this through You're holding yourself accountable The next day I'm talking about like while it's happening. You want to go grab a beer after this?

No. Okay. That's why it's 2.30 in the afternoon. All right. We got Henry AZ on the podcast. We have a meeting with an important meeting and we need to do that. Yeah. Oh, do you think they're going to yell at us?

No, it's about the thing. It's going to be long and boring. Like all meetings. I'm not a meeting guy. I'm not a meeting guy either. Let's just get it done. No, no, I'm not. But their meetings are good. They don't fuck around too much. No, it's like straight to business.

I don't like meetings where you spend the first 10 minutes asking everybody how their day's going and shit. God, I hate that stuff. Also, I hate when you go to the counter. Denver, goddammit, everybody's too nice here. You go get a coffee at the counter, it's like, how's your day going? I want a latte.

Yeah, and Schwartz is such a yenta sometimes. Whenever we have meetings with him, he'll always say, yeah, Andy got fucked up last night. He told me. I'm like, Schwartz, why? Because he wants to pass the buck in case anything goes wrong. Just in case I'm like, I'm just crazy. The thing about managers, and this isn't specific

to any certain manager. Remember he texted us that don't talk shit about him on the podcast. I don't care. What's he going to do? Fire me from the podcast? All right. Keep going. I'm not talking shit about him. I'm talking shit about managers. I just want a cigarette. Go ahead. One thing about all managers is nothing's ever their

fault, basically. Of course it's not. Everything's the tour manager's fault or the artist's fault. Yeah. I've never heard a manager in my life ever take the blame for anything in my life. So what do you think that is? Like a power thing? I think it's just they're like, that's why they're managers and not musicians. You know what I mean?

They think they're perfect. Yeah. They're just nerds, basically. You know what I mean? They want to be cool and they're not. So they become managers. Well, you told me to keep it. You told me to. If they're cool, they're just nerds, basically. You know what I mean? They want to be cool, and they're not. So they become managers. Well, you told me to.

If they're cool, they'd be musicians. You know, as soon as a manager walks into a green room at a big show, it's like, oh, God, here we go. Here we go, and you guys have sound check go. You don't care. You don't know anything about sound check. Go plug it. What's an XLR? Show me an XLR. Put a pile of cables out and pick the XLR cable.

It was there, money. Wow. We got to get out of this before I get fired. I'm about to get dropped by 7S. It has nothing to do with Brian. Actually, I don't think Brian's like this at all. He's not like that. I'm talking about other managers.

I'm generalizing. He's not really that, but he's not annoying. Sometimes when he comes to the show, he's like, did you tune your guitar? Yeah. That's such a thing. Are you kidding me? I know. First of all comes to the show, he's like, did you tune your guitar? Yeah. I'm like, are you kidding me? I know. You guys ready for this?

You guys ready? The new songs? You ready? Yeah. We play 375 shows a year. We just played the songs. Yeah. For the last 27 days in a row.

Us? Us? Are we ready? I'm going to make them get out there and do it. I'm going to make him do a guitar solo or something. Does he play guitar? No. No.

I was going to say. But sometimes when he... He's a good manager. He's a great manager. He's the best. But managers do that shit that I'm talking about. I'm generalizing,

but that happens. I know. The green room hang. We're going to green room pop quiz these managers. The green room hang is... Every time a manager comes into a green room,

we're going to pop quiz them. What's in the XLR cable? What's on our rider? Yeah, what's in our rider? Why is our rider three years old? Yeah. You guys still have a puppy on your writer, by the way? Yeah. Some people have been

giving us puppies. Maybe Julie will work your mission or Red Rocks. Red Rocks. Maybe she'll come work there. I mean, we're playing a reggae show. There's probably going to be 17 already fucking dogs on the fucking stage. God, what's the deal with reggae bands just loving dogs on stage? They're high as shit.

I know, but like... They all have like 4,000 dogs. Doesn't that hurt their ears, like loud music? They all have $4,000 dogs because their parents are rich. So they're really well behaved. Okay, we're done. Enjoy, Henry AZ. I'm not done.

Yo, let's do the pitch now so we don't have to do it later. Henry AZ. Huh. Great rapper. Great rapper. Huh? Great rapper. Great rapper. I met this man. In studio. He's on Juicy J's record label.

He came to the studio. He's very vulnerable about his addiction problems. Tell them how you met, actually. He Airbnb'd my house. With Juicy J. With Juicy J. And he found out that I was a musician and started deep diving. And then he started following me.

And then he shot a music and we'd just be in, then he shot a music video in my house and he, he's a really great guy. And he's, um, he's a great lyricist and he was honest. And he was a good interview. It was a great interview.

I loved it. I was so fast about some deep stuff, really heavy shit. Um, so Chris, play some Henry Z. They always say I got a long life ahead of me, but I don't want to live in doubt

If you ain't right here next to me Especially with all the shit that I got weighing on me Created these anxieties It's like I raised an army I want to pitch one more thing The voicemail line You guys have been getting kind of lazy with it You're sending in voicemails

They're not good They're just like, I liked your show That's okay, it's compliments I don't want any compliments for Andy on there're just like, I liked your show. That's okay. It's compliments. I don't want any compliments for Andy on there. I want funny. I want mean. I want gross.

No, I'm kidding. Here's the number though. It is 720-966-2230. 720-966-2230. So send us a voicemail. Let us know how we're doing the show. We got a nice little comment today. It said the goat.

Kobe, Frasco, MJ. Let's go. We're becoming podcast goats. Why does it always have to be a shooting guard? Am I a shooting guard? No. You're not a basketball player. I'm a power forward. Jews don't fight basketball, Andy. Okay.

Who was the greatest Jewish basketball player of all time, though, actually? Sandy Koufax. He plays baseball. It's probably true, though. All right. Enjoy Henry AZ. I'm going to drink some water. I'm going to play this show.

I'm getting a bag of blow, man. You going to go with me? I'll go with you. Yeah, let's go. I'm just kidding. of blow man you gonna go with me? I'll go with you yeah let's go I'm just kidding alright goodbye I'm told to go home whoa

give me time to grow nothing's ever been for sure except the fact I'm about to blow I did everything right and they still tell me no if I blew up overnight well then there wouldn't

be a show oh everything different I'm off prescriptions at battle with my ego but I'm always feeling distant Yeah, and at the end of the day

When the headphones come off, I got nothing to say Hey, yeah, and at the end of the day When the headphones come off, I got nothing to say Yeah, it's like my mind goes blank When those headphones come off, I got nothing to say Hey, and at the end of the day When the headphones come off, I got nothing to say. Hey. Perfect. Wow. Henry. This is a long time coming, buddy.

It's a really long time coming, man. You know, backstories. You guys stay at the house when you're, what, recording? What are you doing so much in Denver? Everything, man. When you think about what you can do in Denver, it's like what you can't do in Massachusetts. It's what you can do in la but not to the same extent and i kind

of like that yeah you know less bullshit but i can still work on music there's nice studios out here people yeah man really nice yeah studios over in rhino so i a lot of questions what what how'd you get in touch with juicy j what's going on yeah? Yeah, that's a good first question, Andy. That's a good first question. I freestyle, man. That's my thing. I love freestyling. I love just kind of getting in the backseat of a car.

There's a running joke that like, why is this dude always in the back of a Kia Soul? It's never been a Kia Soul for the record, so everyone can know. It's never been a Kia Soul. But I've always loved the prolific kind of like, just do it. You know what I mean?

Like, fuck getting behind the microphone, fuck doing all that stuff. So that's how Juicy J found me was from one of my freestyles. I did, I think it was actually, Meek Mill had gotten locked up for doing a wheelie or something. He was on probation and he had done a wheelie

and it was just so dumb. Like, why would you go to jail for that? Like, the worst thing that could have happened is he hurt himself, right? Like, it wasn't going to hurt nobody else. Worst thing that could have happened is he was going to hurt himself. He didn't do anything that seemed worth incriminating for me.

And so I just did a freestyle. I was like, man, free Meek Mill. This is bullshit. Fuck the system. You know what I mean? And it was funny, but it wasn't funny because it was a serious topic. But it was funny because I was white and I was doing all this. Juicy J found it.

Worldstar actually picked it up, so I got to give them some credit. Shout out Worldstar. Didn't pay them a dollar. They just picked that up, posted it, and then Ju juicy j had seen it and then reached out to me so is that like the way to get like viral through world star i mean if we were if we were in 2014 2015 absolutely and fighting there's always there's always crazy fights on there man but they're known for it so i built their brand was off of like so was the video just getting millions of hits it got a couple million and um for instagram at that time if you're doing two million views that's big like reels didn't exist yet you know like reels now they'll get like 20 million views and they're blowing up and

they've tried to create a tiktok within instagram that didn't exist at the time this is when like igtv was still a thing yeah yeah yeah and so like that it was it was a different algorithm for sure but it did a couple million and I gained a bunch of followers. And one of those followers was juicy J and he had an administrator from the label that I'm working with now through him, reach out and say that he had wanted business with me sick. And it took about two months for me to believe it. Oh,

do you thought it was fake? I thought it was fake. That's a true story. Hold on. So what are you doing? You get an email from juicy J. Not an email. Not an email. So it was a direct message on Instagram, a DM on Instagram from somebody who managed me briefly in my career. You know what I mean? So they worked through the label that I'm signed to. And he reached out and he was just like, Juicy J wants business with you.

Juicy J wants business with you. And I go to his page. It's like cooking photos. Yeah, right. You're like cooking photos and and 1,200 followers. So I'm like, okay, I'm not one to judge based off of a follower count, but the cooking stuff got me. That was where I was like, I don't think that this guy

has business with JCJ. Turns out he did. So he kept on courting you? He kept on courting you? He hit me up a bunch of times, probably four or five times over the span of two months before eventually I was like,

send a fucking phone number. You know what I mean? I'm not going to tell you where I live. I'm not going to tell you what's going on. No, I'm not taking a flight or whatever it is that you guys are talking about. And so call me or give me your number. I'll call you.

And I called him. And on the first call, he was like, I'm glad you called. Let me link somebody in. Didn't say it was going to be Juicy. I knew it was going to be Juicy, but he didn't say it was going to be Juicy. Let me link somebody in.

And so he gets Juicy on the call and Juicy's like, man, I'm a fan. I like your talent. I knew it was going to be juicy, but he didn't say it was going to be juicy. Let me link somebody in. And so he gets juicy on the call and juicy's like, man, I'm a fan. I liked your talent. I like what you're doing. You hard, bro. You just got to keep spitting it in. And I think we could do something together. You know, there was no talk of a deal.

There was no talk of, you know, anything beyond just what I had said. Now that I'm knowing this is the real juicy J and you can tell by the voice, man. It was. No faking that. So what's your mind state? Like you changed like into serious mode? Yeah, a hundred percent. And you can tell by the voice, man. It was. No faking that. So what's your mind state? Like you changed like into serious mode?

Yeah, 100%. And I was just like, damn, like I feel like an idiot for not responding the first four or five times. But maybe that made me look good. Yeah, yeah. I got shit going on, Juicy J. Let's go.

Let's go. You're getting cornered. You're getting cornered. Yeah, exactly. You big too, Henry. So that was when I started taking shit serious, as you said. That was when I started being like,

okay, I gotta, I gotta entertain whatever the fuck this is. Cause, so was it a development deal or what? More or less, I would say it's like the, the best kind of artist development deal one could have,

because in a lot of development deals that I know of anyway, where people are working with it, or they're working with other major labels, bleep that out. You know what I mean? They're, they're not allowed to create what they want to create. There's a status quo for what you need to bring to the table

in order for them to generate X level of income so that you can pay back whatever advance that you're taking on this development deal. And in my case, it was much more like, yo, the talent has already grown the brand. There's a reason I found you, right? So like now if I, meaning Juicy J, now if I, Juicy J, put myself in this situation and co-sign you and get you involved with some records that are bigger than you are and get you involved with some situations that may be bigger than the ones you have going on for yourself, that could be a good situation for everybody, right?

So did he get you on some collabs? Yeah, absolutely. I got Juicy J on a bunch of songs. He's hooked me up with songs with people like Wiz, you know what I mean? He connected me with Wiz and everybody from Taylor Gang. So those are my people. Holy shit. He produced a song with me and Freddie Gibbs together.

Damn. Which was really awesome. Holy shit. Yeah, we've done a lot of really good stuff together. And I feel like it's been a weird mix that you probably wouldn't have expected. Yeah. If that makes sense. Like you wouldn't expect Juicy J to sign somebody who's making the kind of music that I am.

But he's such a good fucking businessman, bro. He does not hear or see anything other than like, honestly, dollar signs, which I respect because that's what I am. You know what I mean?

Like, I see myself as a dollar sign as well. So, shout out to you, Juicy J for knowing what the fuck is going on. Let's go,

let's go, Juicy. He knew before anybody did, man. He knew before anybody did and I give him props for that because a lot of people were scared to sign on to another white rapper in the music industry.

Yeah, I was going to ask you, because you're a white rapper, do you have to be better than everyone? Is that something? You walk into a studio and everyone's ready to go, and you walk in with your lanky white ass like, hey, we're ready to go, boys!

It's a chip on the shoulder yeah you know what i mean but at the same time like it's also there's there's something to be said when you walk into a room and that's the expectation that other people hold of you right like you got to be the baddest dude to walk in here looking like that right straight up that's that's something that i know people think in their heads when i walk in the room like you better be so good at what you do or you better get the fuck out. I know they think that. And for me, that's a chip on the other shoulder. So now I got a chip on both shoulders and I'm like, okay, I'll come in here.

I won't say a word until it's time for me to speak. I'm not going to speak on nothing that I don't have value or information to bring forward. But once it's my time to speak, I'm not going to stop. I fucking like you, Henry. I like this. Let's fucking go. But that's how you do it. And keep

in mind, I'm 23 too, so I'm a baby and I'm figuring out how the whole shit works together. Like, fuck the industry. People are always like, I'm trying to figure out the industry. Okay, I figured that shit out when I was 20 years old. Where were you doing? Same shit I'm doing now. In Cape Cod? No, I went from

Cape Cod to New York. Okay. And New York was where I ended up having Juicy reach out to me. So you were in the city? Where were you? I was in the city. I was in Gramercy Park. Holy shit. So what were you doing?

Were you like doing open mics and stuff? Not even. So I was actually living with a friend on the couch in New York City and I was going to Platinum Studios, which has moved locations since, but they were over on, I believe, 108th, East 108th Street. And I was going over there and I was recording quite frequently. And I was just kind of like building connections with people at the studio. It was owned by Jerry Wanda.

I don't know if you know who that is. So it was owned by Jerry Wanda. And he was a real solid dude. Ended up making some connections with him. And then like the first time I met like a real celebrity celebrity was at that studio in New York. Ray J walked into my session just randomly. I'm like 19, 20 years old.

Ray J walks in. What'd he say? He just liked what he heard. He was like, I'm in the other room. It's just not hard. I just wanted to come in here and see what this was. Clearly set up by Jerry Wonder or somebody at the studio. I was just like, go check that kid out.

You know what I mean? Whatever. And so he came in. I got to meet Ray J, have a conversation with him about Raycon Global. What'd he say? Man, he's so interesting. Ray J is so interesting. And this is like,

at the time where everybody, when you think of Ray J, I mean, you still think of Kim Kardashian. Yeah, but he's done so much too. No, he's like, he's him and Akon. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff. I'm like, what the fuck?

They really be doing like the most, most. Yeah. Didn't Akon like fuck over a bunch of smaller acts because he started a label and didn't get many money? That's true. Yeah. Is he the first guy to ever do that? But he's a smart businessman didn't get many money. That's true. Yeah. Is he the first guy

to ever do that? But he's a smart businessman. First. But you know what? I heard a crazy story about Akon. What? He has a twin brother.

Oh, really? Akon has two twin brothers. He's triplets? No, he has two twin brothers. So Akon has two twin brothers. Oh, okay. And they used to travel around before the social media era

and all do shows at the same time. His twin brothers were performing like Akon. And they were getting a bag three ways, bro. I fucking love it. Shout out Akon, man. So look, everything you just said about maybe scheming some other people, I believe it after knowing that.

You know what I mean? That's wild. So how do you get away with that? How do you get away with that? Because there's no social media. What are you going to do? You're going to check online and see what Tower of Power needs to do that too. You can't.

You can't go online and check what dates Akon's performing. It's like he's in North Carolina. He's in Florida same night. I low-key fuck with that. Kind of. That's a great business model. Because everything's on tracks anyway. Yeah.

You know, right? Yeah. Who else did that? I can see both sides of it. Let's put it that way. Who else did that? Tower of Power, the funk band. Joe Biden.

Joe Biden. That's crazy. Trump. Trump, yeah, yeah. Wild. Okay, so you live in New York. Who was the guy who took you under his wing in the beginning years? So shout out my boy, Ben. Ben in New York was...

I lived with my homie. This is a crazy story. I lived with my homie in New York. And my homie had some drug problems my homie had some drug problems. I've had some drug problems throughout my life. What were you into? I was a Xanax and a lean kind of guy. Like downers.

I was never really uppers. I never liked cocaine. I never liked any of that shit. I didn't like pushing it in my nose. We'll talk about that, but keep going. We'll get there. But I was more of a downer guy

and so was the guy I was living with. So it was a complicated situation because that was kind of a set up for destruction for myself to kind of be in that environment. And the friend that I'm living with, so it was a complicated situation because that was kind of a setup for destruction for myself to kind of be in that environment. The friend that I'm living with, excuse me, the friend that I'm living with, his boss heard that there was

a rapper living on his couch. His boss is like, yo, I want to hear him. Let me come over after work. Let me come meet him. His boss came over, had me rap for him, heard me, and was like, you got to come live in my house instead. What? True story how old are you 20 1920 1920 and so my friend shout out tyler for the hospitality and you know i mean i hope you're doing better now um his boss was ben who was one of my very good friends now shout out ben gershinoff um was just like, look, you got something.

I know the environment you're in right now, and that's not where you're going to get this shit done. And so he brought me back to his house where he had an actual bed for me. What a hero. And he cleaned you up. Cleaned me the fuck up. And just got me to a point where it was like, I could be self-sufficient had I been making money off the music at that point.

I could have been like on my own shit. I was living at his house, of course, but he got me to a point where I was hustling and motivated. And when Juicy found me, I was at Ben's. Oh, wow. And Ben never asked for anything? Ben has never asked me for anything, man. The only thing he's ever asked me for is to pick up the phone. Let's fucking go. Ben!

We need people like you, Ben! We really do, man. That guy saved my life. He's got a crazy story himself. Just because he was in a good position and helped me doesn't mean he hasn't he didn't have his own demons in his own shit going on and so for him to like help demons man it's for for people to like put those aside to help others it's like it's very very valuable did you lose your friendship with the other guy when you bailed on his house no we didn't lose our friendship over that i think it was more so the fact that like once i cleaned my shit up it took a little bit away from me

wanting to be around you know i mean it took a little bit away from me wanting to be around. You know what I mean? It took a little bit away from that. And so that's why I said I hope bro's doing better now because I really don't. Was it hard to get off Xanax and lean? Very, very, very hard. What's so addictive about it in your brain? Well, I mean, like when you have a lot of problems, which we all have, like they don't really exist in that world.

So it's kind of nice to not have them exist in that world. What type of problems were you thinking about that made you get into Xanax and lean? I think a lot to do with like family shit. You know, I didn't have the best relationship with a lot of my family members growing up, particularly my father. And then, you know, my mother had been in a tough situation

from the time I was six, seven, eight years old when my parents got divorced. My mom kind of was just on her own for a long time and that never sat right with me and especially the way that my father handled a lot of those situations didn't sit right with me. And then being able to internalize that as an adult

created a lot of pressure for me as an artist and somebody who had to bring in money and be able to support the people that I love. You had to support the family? I would say not the family because you know you take away my dad when they got split very young my dad has his own family now he's got a new wife and new children and you know he's got a whole thing going on did he forget about you you forgot about you I don't think so how much were you taking not as much as some of these people out here just taking it for fun but I was taking it for different reasons and not leaving the house

as opposed to these dudes who were in the studio, having a good time. I was recluse. You were depressed. Yeah, I was recluse and I was not the fun Xanax addict who was just like, woo, let's do whatever. I was like, no, let's do nothing. Thank God you didn't get heroin or anything like that.

You know what? I thank God every day. And the only reason I didn't is because I come from Cape Cod, which is like, they got a whole HBO documentary on there. didn't is because I come from Cape Cod which is like they got a whole HBO documentary on there it's a big heroin epidemic in Cape Cod you go there in the summer

and you see the most beautiful bitches you see the most beautiful shit going on you go there in the winter you see the worst looking needles you've ever seen in your entire life

everywhere man it's actually disgusting yeah I watched that documentary it's like insane yeah the heroin epidemic on that whole part of the coast it's like

it's like the people that live there year round it just like decimated them so that's good at heroin epidemic on that whole part of the coast. It's like the people that live there year-round. It just decimated them. So that's good. At least you saw that. At least you saw that where you didn't want to get to that point. Thank God you didn't get into opiates because that's probably way harder to kick. Xanax is hard too, though. What's the deal with the lean?

Why is everyone doing lean? It's like syrup. It's the codeine and the promethazine and the whole fucking, the name behind it. Like, I'll be honest too. Like, I feel like some of my favorite artists, I'm not going to name drop because that's corny, but I feel like some of my favorite artists

even influenced me to just start fucking with lean. Really? Yeah, and it became something that's like, lean is liquid Percocets. Don't let anybody tell you anything. It's liquid Percocets, bro. And a lot, some people even argue that it's liquid heroin, but I think it's liquid Percocets. That's just the tell you anything. It's liquid Percocets, bro. And some people even argue that it's liquid heroin, but I think it's liquid Percocets.

That's just the way that I can describe it in my brain. But I was much less attracted to the way lean made me feel and more attracted to the idea of like sipping lean. Yeah, like being like your favorite artist. Right. And I was impressionable and young and creating music myself. So it felt like if that's where their creative zone is why can't that be where my creative zone is. So you feel like you have to

copy them to get to that level. And a lot of my music is kind of like painful and vulnerable in some ways so it's easier to be numb talking about those kinds of things. I'm a good basketball player. I say that humbly. I'm a good basketball player. Especially when I'm really playing and it's a serious

situation. You got to match up to the talent. I can match up to the talent. I'm going to say this humbly. I'm a good basketball player, especially when I'm really playing and it's a serious situation. You got to match up to the talent. I can match up to the talent. I'm going to say this right now. I'm going to say this right now. On record, there are multiple NBA players right now that I can guard. Really?

And you're tall. Absolutely. Score on. You're a good defender. I'm a great defender. I'm a great defender. Okay, so you saw this guy jump over a seven footer

and you're like, I'm done. It wasn't even I'm done. It was like, okay, cool. Maybe it's time to focus on the music part of things. Like I'm already kind of this. Are you obsessive compulsive?

Sometimes somewhat like some basketball over certain things. You know, you, so you saw this, I very smart man. You saw this like, Oh, I'm good.

Yeah. That was, that was, that was exactly the moment where I was like that. I can't jump that high. We're the same height. That's scary. Knowing when to quit is a good skill.

I knew when to call it. It is. I think a lot of people have made other careers because they knew when to quit. So were you a decent rapper when you're like half in it? You're okay? I mean, I'm a great rapper at its essence, but I also suck.

Yeah. Why? Why do you think that? It's just like I suck because of the fact that I don't know what I'm doing, but I know when the magic happens, I'm fucking great. You just can't plan the magic where I'm at right now. Is that just hours of doing it? Yeah.

So you just got to get better or just keep doing repetition. 10,000 hours. Is that just hours of doing it? Yeah. So you just got to get better. Or just keep doing it. Repetition. 10,000 hours. 10,000 hours. Call it a day. Okay. So you're in high school.

You say you're a sophomore? So at this time, when I'm what? Were you a good student? I mean. Well, you're passing Like C's Yeah That's exactly I always got A's in English

Enough to like Have your scholarship Not to be taken away Yeah I passed math by four points And I always did really well In English Okay cool

So It was junior year You're 17 Two years before your big viral hit What happened In those two years In high. What happened in those two years? In high school? What happened in those two years?

Just like self-doubt, all these different kind of like, I also like... Were you a sex addict? I am now. I wasn't then. Yeah. I didn't have enough sex to be an addict. Yeah. Now you just love it.

Like you can't be a coke addict if you can't afford Coke. Yeah, that was me in high school. So you're kind of like insecure about yourself, wasn't confident. But you're like playing basketball and you're rapping. That seems like you'd be the pimp over there. Yeah, like I was like, I hooked up with the girls that I wanted to hook up with. But think about this. There's 300 people.

That's 150 girls that's not like pimping too hard you know when you take the ratio into perspective after a few your name gets around and I also feel like for me it was also like think about the people that attend a school like this

they're not necessarily the biggest rap fans they're like impressed that there's somebody who has some fame and followers around them but like the rap part was the part that they were probably like

we don't really give a fuck we're rich white girls we want to finance that's just how I look at it I hear you that's how I look at it get an MBA then we'll be impressed I hear you I hear you that's how I look at it so then you went straight into the lab what was your first song

do you remember it my first song and and Jack go call Crazy Luke man he's blowing my phone up don't let him do that you need to go call that man

and so I'll say this too the first shit I did was like a a renegade Eminem and Jay-Z cover. I took that beat Renegade by Jay-Z and he got Eminem on it and I did like some shit over that. And I uploaded it to SoundCloud and it did a bunch of views and I thought I was a man.

That was like the first time that I was like, oh man. Was that the game? Getting into SoundCloud? Yeah, at that time. I remember praising Chance the Rapper because he saved SoundCloud at that time. He went ahead and bought SoundCloud or something so that it could stay up.

And I was like, yeah, that saved my career, Chance. You know what I mean? Let's go, Chance. Shout out Chance the Rapper. You know what I mean? Did you ever meet him? I've never met Chance the Rapper.

He's low-key now, so I feel like... He's got kids. He's got a wife. He's got that whole thing. So you had a big SoundCloud hit. You feel more confident about it. When did you start making, like,

did you make a record in high school or what? I made a bunch of stuff. Shout out to Akachi Beats. That's the dude who really took me under his wing during high school when I knew that I could rap and I knew that I could freestyle.

And he's an amazing producer, like one of the biggest and the best now. Double Grammy nominated this year. We went to high school together and back when neither of us had a name, we actually got signed the same year as well um and so shout out to him because i would not have been recording i wouldn't have that money to record he let me come over to his house he made the beats for me everything and so he was the one that um i started

making like real real records with um and that was like super helpful for me because i didn't have anyone else especially where i grew up in cape cod that was like on that for me because I didn't have anyone else, especially where I grew up in Cape Cod, that was like on that type of time. And he started out as an EDM producer and now he's making songs for Future, ESTG, and I mean like EJ Khaled, like it doesn't stop. You know, Roger Shahid, he produced all the Drake stuff. The newest stuff? Maybe Dua Lipa. Oh yeah, yeah. The Drake stuff. The newest stuff? Maybe Dua Lipa. The Drake stuff,

the newest stuff? Yeah, second to last record, he did a bunch of stuff. Certified Lover Boy? Oh no, I can't remember, but he was my piano player in my band. Now he's just killing it. Lateral move. He's like, I'm good with the jam rock and roll.

I'm going to go make beats for Future now. You say that's your piano player? Yeah, my old piano player before I started taking it seriously. Man. The last part of this segment, I really want to talk about what you're doing with this part of this record deal. Because you're fresh, right? Yeah. Are you making, like, do you have to, like, make like a hundred songs?

Here's the thing, man. Like, what's it going on? It's not even like, I shouldn't be saying this, but it's more so like I got to be real with myself. I'm not making nearly enough music. I've taken a social media and a mental health break. I've been off everything for a little bit. This is the first time I'm doing an interview

in like two years. And so it feels good. Did you say why? No, I said why. Oh, yeah. Why? I don't know. Everyone needs to clean up it feels good to kind of like come back out of hibernation which i've done many times in my career before but

this has been the most extended and the most unexpected and the most it's been the least explained as well so people are like what the fuck um well i think that now i'm looking at it from a perspective of quality over quantity i have made a lot of music in the past. I've had album weeks. Just finish an entire project in a week and just be like, yeah. But now I'm not even doing anything like that. I'm creating different records in different settings and different vibes and saying, I don't care what I think people are going to like. I'm going to let it all go and I'm going to detach from the results. I'm going to just let people eat what they eat and spit out what they spit out. That's fine by me, but I know

that I've become a versatile enough artist through both working and taking time away. It was super important for me to get better as an artist was taking time away because if I just kept going and I burnt myself out, that was the end of it. So you knew your body.

That and also not the end of it like that, but like the end of my exploration. I don't want to keep exploring if I find that I reach like bullshit every time I try and go out the rap sphere, you know, because that's happened to me in the past. Like I created a very in-depth

mental health based album that was super conceptual, but also so real to my life. Right. That like I manifested negativity out of that. There was so much sadness and so much grief and so much pain in this music that through creating that

and having to put myself in that zone every single day, I killed myself in a big way. Oh, because you felt like you were just oversaturating your brain? Killed what was going on. Anything happiness-wise, done. Depleted. Gone. Yeah, that's how I feel. Being on the road

so much. And I love being on the road, but when you're performing depressing songs on the road, too, it makes it way worse. That's heavy, dude. Were you on Lean and Xanax through all that shit? No. I was sober. I mean, California's sober for sure.

That can be harder, even, though, if you're sober. It can be. It definitely can be. As I said, blocking that shit out can be really helpful sometimes. And so I can't control what I want to make, which is why I think as an artist, I've been slower to kind of like, like, yeah,

I'm fresh on the scene and people are watching out for me. And like, I do really, really well in pure sales. That's like my, that's like my forte is like, I saw a lot of real copies. My friends like love to buy the real shit.

And so that's where I find that if I make some shit that's super vulnerable or I make some shit that's super powerful and they buy it and it hits the charts or it goes to Billboard or it goes wherever, that's more powerful to me than having made some pop record or having made some shit that's just easy to vibe to

or go viral on TikTok. So I value that. But I haven't made enough songs to really be like, this is what I do. People don't know what I do yet. There's no real lane that they can put me in, no box that they can put me in. That's a beautiful part to be in your career. You're so young. It absolutely is. But it's also pressure because I'm not getting younger and because of the fact that like I'm you don't want I would rather honestly and this is just me speaking from my own perspective I would rather be a master of something than a jack of a few trades yeah but um you're so funny like I'm

so old but you're 23 when when it's a rap career done it's changed man Freddie Gibbs who I have a lot of respect for is 39 Benny the Butcher is 37 you who I have a lot of respect for, is 39. Benny the Butcher is 37. You know what I mean? A lot of my favorite rappers are going into their 40s right now. And so... What about the popular ones? How old are they?

Depends. I mean, like... 24, 29? Travis Scott's like 28, 29, right? Yeah. He's probably 30, really. I mean, Drake is 35. Yeah, he's been around.

So you got like 11 years. Future might be 40s. I got time, but think about how long Drake has been dropping the kind of hits that he has. True. We you got like 11 years Future might be 40s I got time But think about how long Drake has been dropping The kind of hits that he has True We're talking about 11 years

So that's like how long I need to be dropping My hits now Andy That's the fucking point Andy was a TV star before that And I get why Now because of this pressure I get why he took a hiatus

Because you can't just Like throw shit You know You can't just keep Throwing shit If you don't believe In the stuff you're throwing out there, you're wasting your fucking time.

The spaghetti method's not always good for music. You throw seaweed sticks. It's not cooked yet. I kind of have a question about the music side of what you do. I read that you don't make your own beats, right? You don't produce? I don't. What's the process for you for picking them?

Do you just have people send you stuff and then whatever you feel, you just choose? I like to get in with people. I like to be in the same room and I like them to have a folder of shit that they thought I would like. And I usually, after three or four beats, will get the fuck out of that folder and have them play me some shit

that they didn't think I would like. Because more often than not, I like the shit they didn't think I would like. Interesting. So I do like playing the email game because that just means I can sit on my own time and smoke weed and just go through it and find what I'm digging. But I would much rather be in with somebody. Right.

Like truthfully, I'd rather feel their vibe. And if there's nothing that they're playing that I'm liking, now we have the opportunity because we're together to make some shit right here right now. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, yeah. What's the state of hip-hop right now in 2023? Coming back. It's really coming back.

Take me out of the equation because people are going to be like, oh, he's saying that because he thinks he's a rapper. Take me out of the equation. Hip-hop is in good hands right now. At least if we stop killing each other. I can say it's in good hands if we choose to let the artists that

we have live so i'm hoping that we can you know stop a lot of the bullshit going on because that's my biggest thing about the state of hip-hop negatively is that like it's it's a fucking war zone everywhere bro yeah what's the deal with that is it like they're just trying to live the like right the way they live? It's more so that people are rapping about their lives and their experiences whether past or present. A lot of these dudes are referencing things from

their past lives before they were this big artist. That's their art. We got to treat that as their art, but people will take that as some sort of challenge. People will take that as a challenge to try and go see if he's still about that life. To go see if he's still really that dude who got six

AKs on him or whatever the fuck he rapped about. You know what I mean? That's the part that bothers me is that you can't let a man make his art about a life that he really did live. Those are experiences that he really had. Yeah but like that was his past. Everybody's got a past. And that's the whole point is like Young Dolph for instance. Rest in peace young doll yeah memphis legend like one of my

favorite rappers from memphis and one of my favorite rappers period actually sick and rest him you know i mean god rest his soul that shit was so sad man he went to go get cookies for his grandmother and his mom in his home town memphis and just got shot and, you know, obviously passed and it was one of those things that turned into an actual like war zone. Memphis was a war zone.

Probably still is for the first three months after that shit happened. It was crazy. Just deaths on deaths. I remember the first week there were like 118 deaths or some shit.

Didn't you have a big freestyle about Nipsey Russell that was pretty viral? Yeah, I did. I did do a Nipsey Hussle freestyle. I did.

That was a world star thing as well. Man, you're on your shit with the research. That's my research guy. You were the hardest research I've ever done on someone. I like that about you though. It keeps a mystery. Do you like being mysterious?

You know what? I think I'm going to leave that as part of my brand because I've done it for long enough that people expect it. I like this man. I think it works well for me. I wouldn't do it if I didn't think it worked. That's the big thing about me. I won't do it if I don't think it works.

If it doesn't work, throw the shit away. Go back to the drawing board. Shy, big dick. Let's go. That big dick energy, that's why they call it that But to answer that question on a more serious level I want to open up more I want to be mysterious

But for the right reasons I don't want it to be The shit that I came on air and just said about I have questions about what the fuck happened When I was younger That's me opening up That's me trying to be like, look, I'm not just this dude who's going to rap about it

and not talk about it. I'm going to go on more interviews from now on, starting with this. This was the right one for me to come on and start with. This was the right one for me to come open up with. But I want to be mysterious in the right way. And I also respect that you're not bragging about the concrete details. You're saying, I've also experienced this moment.

I'm not going to give you the full details so we could judge each other's trauma. We're not in about that. I'm telling you that we're in this together. Exactly. And I know there's a lot of people who will do the comparison game and will play that game, and I don't want to feed into that at all. I know there's so many people who have so much worse shit.

A way worse story, but they don't have a platform to share that. So it's about encouraging other people, specifically men. I want everybody to be able to speak up on what happens to them, but I feel like men have a really hard time speaking up when some shit happens to them.

You got any beef with anybody? That's a really good follow-up question for what we were just talking about. I don't actually really have beef with anybody. If I have beef with anyone, it's myself. I got a lot of beef with myself. Why? Why are you beating yourself up? Because when you're on drugs, you make terrible decisions.

And some of those decisions are irreversible. Oh, so you're regretting what you were in the past? I have beef with myself about it. And that's something that I think I'm working through. But how can you have beef with anybody else if for years of your life you weren't even yourself? Good point. Henry.

That's a lyric. We can go all the way. 23 years old. 23 years old. This man is 23. This is exciting. You got a big life ahead of you. I'm is 23. This is exciting. You got a big life ahead of you. I'm very excited. I'm rooting for you.

And the hip hop ain't easy to be part of that scene, bro. It's weird. It's all about singles. Is it about touring? Yeah, because if you can't tour as a rapper, you're not a rapper yet. It's almost like you're just like,

you're social media famous. It's a cloud to tour. Yeah, it's like... How do you deal with haters? Why would you deal with anyone who doesn't like you? Ooh, I like that. Why would you deal with anybody? I don't know why it bothers me.

Haters always secretly love you too. Can I tell you a secret for that though? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some of my most viral moments, whether it be social media and bothers me. Aiders always secretly love you too. Can I tell you a secret for that though? Yeah, yeah. I, I've, some of my most viral moments, whether it be social media or just like what I'm doing has come from playing into that.

Okay. I love playing into that because for me, that's always been a huge part of my brand. Like someone will like, like I could pull up an example really, but I've, I've had people

that have made outlandish posts about me, like comparing me to the craziest things. Like someone made a post about me and it was like, it was a picture of me and it was like, this is what happens with like drinking and smoking during a pregnancy. And it was like a whole ad that they added me. Jesus. Fuck all that bullshit.

And I posted it on my Instagram and people were just like, yes. Those people are just projecting their own insecurities of their own. People love it though. It's like, if you play into it rather than be bothered by it, the fans will love it too. You put all that effort in

hoping I would be upset or hoping that it would get some sort of reaction. And it got like, yeah, Henry! You got my engagement up. Well, Henry, I'm ruined for you, buddy. My guy, thank you so much. Anytime you're in Denver, you come over. And we should do a tune together.

Dude, this is what I have to say this to. I'm holding you to this. We got to do a song about the parallels of life and basketball. I'm in. It's so important. You've been texting me about this. I know, man. It's so true.

And it was your idea. Don't forget that. It was your idea, and I was the one who got so passionate about it in the moment that I was not willing to let it go. I'm in. Let's pop. Beautiful. Thank you guys so much. Yeah, thanks was not willing to let it go. I'm in. Let's pop. Beautiful. Thank you guys so much.

Yeah, thanks for being on the show, bro. I'm really rooting for you. I hope that new record comes out. You got any tour dates coming up this year or what? You taking a break? Tour dates coming up. You know what I mean? I got May until probably August of some tour dates in the United States.

Some Australia shit coming cool I got new records coming out this month you know what I mean new records coming out next month you're inspired

you're ready I'm ready man I'm working with a lot of really good people right now shout out Juicy J you know what I mean shout out my boy

Josh Pelton got some crazy shit coming with him you know what I mean shout out everybody that I got some crazy shit coming with right now cause it's gonna be big man

well we're rooting for you buddy keep it going Henry thanks for being My God, thank you so much. Henry, thanks for being on the show. Thank you, guys. Fuck yeah. Smart dude, man. You tuned in to the World's Heavy Podcast with Andy Fresco. Thank you for listening to this episode

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