Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 23: Rayland Baxter

Episode Date: October 9, 2018

The boys equip their Texas Instrument Calculators and don the necessary protective eyewear, as they head into the *SEXLAB* to figure out this polyamory thing that millennials keep raving about. Find out what it means to be ethically non-monogamous, and believe us: We know what we're talking about. We've watched the TED Talk. Also, Rayland Baxter is on the show! Wild stories, that one. Have y'all heard of Wheeler Walker Jr? haHA! Thanks, Shawn! This is Episode 23. To keep up with the podcast, follow us on Instagram @WorldSavingPodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, tour dates, the band and the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com The views discussed on this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of the guests. Follow Rayland at www.raylandbaxter.com Produced by Andy Frasco Yeti Joe Angelhow Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Ernie Chang Andee Avila Shawn Eckels   Arno Bakker

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But I'm blaming it on your butthole. Yeah. Here we are to save the day. It's me and Yeti. Yeti's smoking a bowl. We're hanging out in the frottorium in Kansas City. We are on Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast with Yeti. How we doing, Yeti?

We're chilling in the pad. I'm smoking a bowl in your living room area. What do you call this? Is this your den? This is a den. This is a den. This is a den. It literally is. It's kind of a cave a little bit. It's a very industrial loft style place, my place is. This is the sexiest fuck bachelor pad.

Thanks, dog. We need to, I want to get you on like… I want to do… We need to do an episode of Cribs on Instagram. And like just… Let's do like a three-minute thing. No, we're going to do it. That's so Thule. That's so pretentious.

Exactly. I'm not fucking doing that. Okay, fine. But yeah. What's up, Yachty? What are we talking about today? Polyamorous? Go ahead and fuck the nanny.

Go ahead and fuck the nanny. This is what we did some studies we watched his TED talk we watched his TED talk which is actually the reality is that if you're watching TED talks

you're smarter than 98% of the people out there just by watching it what do you do on your time off we watch TED talks we watch TED talks how do you think how do you think the fuck

I know so much about so much oh don't be all pretentious now. I'm not being pretentious. I'm just saying. I know it's episode 25, but we still haven't got these guys yet. Edit mark. But check it out. I'm believing this shit.

I've been hanging out with some poly girls. Yeah. And I like their mentality on things. Back it up just a little bit. Christopher Ryan, Chris Ryan, he's an author, says, He looks pretty nerdy.

He is. He's an anthropologist. So, his job, Is he poly? Yes. And so, he's not,

he's non-monogamous. Poly is a little bit different. And I would say that he's just saying he's open from what I understand. So, is he just like

fucking a bunch of vagina or like, does he have relationships with these people? Like what's the story? What he is arguing for is that on an evolutionary scale, we are omnivores in a sexual way. We were meant to like many different things. And so he's saying that's the way it is. He's not saying we have to change the way we feel about it.

If you want to be monogamous in a heterosexual or a same-sex relationship, then do it. What he's saying is we need to get rid of the shame for those that don't accept that, for the people that don't agree with monogamy. Because I am a non-monogamous person. I absolutely know I am through and through. Hold on, what's that mean, non-monogamous? Non-monogamous person. I absolutely know I am. Through and through.

Hold on. What's that mean? Non-monogamous? Non-monogamous. I will have multiple partners. I will be in love with multiple people at once. So why were you getting all worked up with the whole Meg situation not working out? If you always know that you're going to be non-monogamous.

No. And that's the thing is I realized I accepted that in myself that I'm okay with that. After this relationship? Yeah. You're sad? I was like, I don't… So this is a new revelation for you? Yeah. I don't have to be in a relationship to be happy.

And I can set the parameters of what I want a relationship to be. And if that other person is in agreement with that, that's a relationship. Okay. I'm not talking about like becoming like… Maybe I'm just overanalyzing the word relationship. What is a relationship okay i'm not talking about like becoming like maybe i'm just over analyzing the i the the word relationship what is a relationship well you and i have a relationship what is it we're we're friends we talk we give each other endless amounts of we pretend that we hate each other for the sake of some no i hate you entertainment

No, I hate you. Entertainment. See? Case in point. But our relationship is different. I mean, I would argue there's not many other people in your life that have this. So, let's talk about this. Because I think I might try this whole polyamorous thing. I think it appeals to you.

Not just so I can fuck a bunch of people. It's just so I can have relationships. And that's the point. And that's what I was going to say is for those of you that are thinking this is about other people i'm like listen it just so happens that a big portion of our existence as homo sapiens this version of ape is that we should be having sex a lot like the thing that this guy just pointed out is that we're the only species alive on the planet currently that can have sex anytime we want. And it's based on menstrual cycle.

And of course, that's talking heterosexually, but that's the only way to track those type of numbers. So it's based on conception, but these species also experience just open sexuality. So do you think that we are overthinking this sex thing? Yes, because morality came in or a hierarchy of needs came in. Chris Ran also alludes to the fact that this whole idea that men have basically been leasing the reproduction systems of women for the last couple millennia. Like we control who they have sex with?

Yes. And he's saying that that's not the way it should be. That society should be… And he points to nature and some would say, well, that's the beast. And I'm like, listen, we're all apes. We're just on different levels of evolution. Man, that's sexual feminism.

Exactly. And it is. And what he said is, it's very freeing. It says, he points to even a culture in China that practices open sexuality in the sense that a woman can have

multiple partners in the same day and no one asks questions. No one says anything. There's no shame. Everyone is free to do what they want to sexually. There's nothing associated. What was that tribe too about she was saying like girls will collect a belly

full of cum like a different smart guys cum. In the Amazon he said on the yeah and so it's called poly paternity. And this is saying that these women believe that a baby is made of a conglomeration of cum, of semen. And so a woman will have sex with, you know, if she wants to be smart.

Is this where bukkake came from? No, bukkake is not getting it inside the woman. It's all over the outside. Fuck. So that's like a quadruple cream pie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the woman will have sex with multiple partners if she… And because of this belief structure,

which we know isn't accurate, because only one gets in. You know, 600 million may enter. Only one may enter. Only one gets all the way. Two men enter, one man leave. That type of thing. 600,000 SEEM rolls into this woman's design. So they believe that when they conceive,

these women in this Amazonian part of the world, in the Amazon, whatever, they believe that the baby is a combination of these. And then these men, they have a ceremony, and they step forward as saying, yes, this is my son. They each claim paternity, and they share it as saying yes this is my son they can't they each claim paternity and they share it while science argues that it's different i would argue the

counter science or the the work and energy would say otherwise yeah like i'm not trying to have like four chicks all living in the same house no this, this isn't. Yeah. And that points to a good, that's a very good point because we're not talking about polygamy. We're not talking about this. We're talking about open sexuality. We're talking about non-monogamy in the sense that I can have a relationship with one person

and have a completely different and separate relationship with another person and they can completely different and separate relationship with another person and they can be co-exclusive. Does it have to be like open on both sides? It does. Like the girls have to

agree to this too. Somebody, I mean, or whoever. Yeah, somebody has to. You can't just selfishly just say this. No, that's abuse. And honestly,

if you're in a relationship like that where the person says they want to be polyamorous or non-monogamous, and you aren't agreeing with it and they're going and doing it anyways, then your relationship is over

because they've decided that your boundary isn't respectful. And I'm just saying that also, if you're finding yourself resisting that, really examine why you're resisting that. What's the reason behind that? Is it because you selfishly want this person to yourself? Their body is not yours to claim. Or is it because you don't think you're worthy of their love

that they have enough of that to share? I mean, I really think it comes down to that. If you're saying no to somebody who says they love you and are willing to admit that they need more and they're not putting it all on you, if you don are willing to admit that they need more and they're not putting it all on you, if you don't see the freedom that's in that, then you are self-centered. Yeah. And you're not loving yourself.

You need to open yourself up is what I'm saying. Yeah. He's talking about how everyone goes through coming out of the closet phase, even if it's sexually or… I just did. Yeah. You sure did. So maybe that's my closet.

I'm polyamorous. I hate labels. Me too. But I get that it's a signpost and so we don't have to get… Jewish. I need to bookmark everything. Exactly.

Catalog and organize it. My name is Andy. I'm going to be… Hello. Andy Fras'm going to be Andy Frasco-Steen Frasco-Steen But it's true though Like I think I like structure in my life And if I have to categorize that

Like maybe I can't Have just one relationship Maybe I need to be with Multiple people Not selfishly have just one relationship. Maybe I need to be with multiple people. Not selfishly just to have sex with multiple people, but just to have four different relationships into my life or two

or three. There's different ways that these different people, you were telling me about these two women that you're pretty much in love with. Yeah. And that they're kind of the ones that got away. And I agree that what you're saying is part of you. The part of you that's connected to them is crying out for that.

And what's so funny, they're two completely different people. One girl is like a really sweet girl from the Netherlands. Another one's like a party girl from Little Rock. And I like things in both of them that I can't get from just one person. Do they listen to the podcast? Because I want this. I fucking hope not.

I hope they do. And if you, I hope that they, you need to, you need to, you're still in contact with these women. Yeah, but I lost contact with both of them. It broke my heart.

Do you think you could, you should reach back out? They both have boyfriends now and I fucked up. And I know they're not into a polyamorous relationship. Okay. All right. I'm just trying to get you laid, buddy. I know.

But it's tough. I really love those girls. And I had my chance to go all in on them. And I got scared. Because I was afraid. Not together, but each. Yeah. This was at separate times. Yeah. It's not like it was the exact

same. Well, at some points there was an intersection. An intersection where they both were together. Not like… No. We were having threesomes. No. In my heart, you, no, no. You're not like… No, we were of a threesome. No. You're just saying that…

But like in my heart, they're… You were… I was loving them both at the same time. You were in both their lives and their circles intersected. It's like that circle… Interchangeable circle thing. Mm-hmm. I wish we had an infographic on our podcast.

Man. But then I think of one more situation where… This girl in Germany too. I met her in Bamberg. She lived in Bomberg, Germany. That was the reason I kept on going back to Bomberg subconsciously. She had a boyfriend and I kept fighting it. Kept fighting it. Fuck. I was doing this with like three chicks. So like I was in love with three girls at the same time. And I didn't, and I was in denial about it. Can you imagine what your life would have been like if you could have admitted

that at that time and just been honest with them about it? Oh my God. Maybe they, and who knows, maybe they would have been like, you know what? We're so far. I mean,

honestly, the only, the two that are the closest are the ones that are in Europe and they're not really, I mean, there's so many fucking people over there. You're just not going to run in. They're not going to run into each other.

Yeah. If all three chicks had been like, Cool, I'm your Midwest girlfriend. You know? And the other one's like, Cool, I'm your Netherlands girlfriend. And I'm your Germany girlfriend. Oh, my God.

It would have been so much easier. And they're free to see other people as well. Yeah, and I'm not trying to like… You're not saying to put their life on hold. And if they fall in love and their partner's into it and you're into it, then fine. But if they fall in love and it has to end, then they end it with you. Yeah. I mean, if people had that agreement or…

And it's not an agreement. If they just were open… Yeah, people are scared to be open. Oh, we're completely terrified. And here, this goes back to what Ryan, Christopher Ryan is saying is that, Chris Ryan was saying is that you can't force people to do something that they're not going to want to do.

Yeah. Like, and when you do that, it comes under control and manipulation. And he, there's no, that's not freedom. And that's not choice. It's get in line. like this it's i mean we experienced that with the gay revolution that has gone on in the last 30 years yeah because people just said you know what there is no normal yeah we're beings and more and more people are

accepting this because they realize not that they have to say fuck off to the generations that were before us or people that which would generally be like my parents i can't imagine having this conversation per se um they weren't hippies we're just saying like this is the way it should be like we're just becoming more conscious of how we're meant to be. Yeah. So what I learned, what I learned today, that polyamorous relationships might be the way to go.

It's definitely, I think it's the option for you. It's an option for me. I'm not, I'm not saying everyone I'm talking about for myself. Right. So I don't have to think about this every fucking day. If I could build relationships with people who understand me and what I'm doing and dealing with and being okay with me having relationships with other

people as well, because that's just maybe what my brain needs and my heart needs. When I think the question begs, you know, like, okay, so what do I do? Do I have to like tell girls that this is what's up? Yeah, what do I do? I actually was a part of, and I'm going to continue to be a part of it, is a non-monogamous discussion group where I live. Hold on, you're in a non-monogamous discussion group?

I was a part of it and then I moved away. What the fuck is that? They talk about this stuff. Holy shit. It's kind of like a… And then I moved away. What the fuck is that? They talk about this stuff. Holy shit. It's kind of like a… They're kind of like this community support group for people that are open. It's not about orgies. It's not about anything like that.

It's about… Although there are people that do play within the group. Yeah. Yeah. They're probably… Some would say, oh, they're swingers. And it's saying, no, they're people… You fucking any of these chicks?

No, no, no. I've never, not in this group. Yeti? No, I went on one date with one of them. Is this like sex anonymous? No. And then everyone's just fucking each other? Or is that just movies?

That's just movies. And the reality is that when you go into this, I mean, like you're saying you're polyamorous. And I'm just saying, Andy, hold off on what you want to call yourself because you need to kind of look into what that all means. Yeah. Polyamory means a lot of things to a lot of people and you need to be able to identify what it is to you. You know, if you're a person that's kind of like, I mean, in one aspect, like an a la carte person, like this person is where I find this part of connection.

And this other person is where I find that other part of connection. The reality is that already exists in our relationships. We're just not fucking as many people as our ancestors were. Does that make sense? That does make sense. And so if we were to remove that one barricade, the sexual barricade, we'd find fulfillment in more relationships.

It would be okay to fuck the nanny. So are we going to get vasectomies together? We should do it. Yes! High five! Did we just become best friends? Yeah, we did. Oh my god.

I dropped this little tidbit on Andy in the van when we were driving back. I'm just high as fuck. And we're just driving back and I look over and I'm like, I'm going to get a vasectomy. He looks over. He's like, What? I'm like, yep. I just want to shoot blanks. This is going to be great.

After listening to you going through the episode 17, just the druthers of pregnancy you just want to shoot that sweet precious puppy water don't you yeah yeah nothing blanks take my vas deference get rid of it well let's listen to the next interview let's do it we're learning a lot about ourselves yeti this is good this is good we just became best friends i I think this is the moment I trust you now. Oh. Not naked, but I don't trust you

in the same bed. Hell fucking no. Enjoy the interviews. We'll talk to you at the tail end. Ass. Get your booty on the floor tonight. What's up? We got Raylan motherfucking Baxter

in the building. Man, two people who don't know who the fuck each other are about to have a conversation with each other. What's up, Raylan? Okay, so I found you. I got you quick, though. You got me quick.

I got you quick. I felt the vibe. It goes deeper, but we got it. Yeah, yeah. We won't explain how deep it goes. Instant riff. Raylan, what a career, dude. Nice.

You started 15 years ago. You started when you were 21. See, we have kind of the same story because I didn't play music until I was 20. I was managing bands when I was 15 through 18. Worked in LA as an industry guy. You lived in Nashville as a kid? I lived in Nashville.

So you knew the hustle. You felt the hustle every day in the streets of how to be a musician. Well, yeah. Yeah, my dad was in the music business. But I was like in the, you know, summer league and all year round soccer business. Went to school and played soccer. You know what I mean? Yeah, so soccer. So to school and played soccer. You know what I mean? Yeah.

So soccer. So that was your first thing. So did you… Because your dad was a musician. You said, fuck that. I don't want to be a musician until what? 20?

When did you have that revelation? 21. What was that revelation like? It was over a period of years, you know. So I was playing lacrosse in college. D1? D1, yeah. In Baltimore.

Baltimore. At Loyola College, which is now Loyola University of Maryland. And then I tore my ACL. My ACL in my left knee my sophomore year of college. Okay, so you started? Like, were you kicking ass?

I started my freshman year, yeah. And I got a full scholarship to go there. And so I'd already committed to play and sign my letter of intent before I started my senior year of high school. You tore your ACL. You had that moment like, what's going to happen?

It was the fall ball. So there's a spring sport. So in fall, I tore my ACL. I lifted all summer. I was like ready to go. Oh, so this wasn't even league? No, no. It was in the fall ball,

which is practice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like off season. And I twisted it. We practiced on a dirt field one day. We usually practice on turf. And I twisted it. We practiced on a dirt field one day. We usually practice on turf. And I twisted it in the cleat. Planted my foot and then turned.

And I knew immediately because in high school, my senior year of high school, I tore my right ACL during soccer season. And so I couldn't play the spring season of my sophomore year. So I got surgery.

I failed a couple classes. Did you want to keep playing? Oh, hell yeah. At that time, I did. And at the end of my sophomore year of college, we went out. It was our last game against Yale. I was on sidelines on crutches, you know, but couldn't run.

And as the end of the semester, our last game, regular season against Yale, we lose at home. We all go out and celebrate the end of the season because it's grueling. It's like 6 a.m. mornings traveling. How many games is lacrosse this season? You play 15 games and then the playoffs

if you make the playoffs. So like 21, 22 games? Once a week? Probably 20 games if you make the playoffs. Once a week. Every Saturday or Thursday you make the playoffs. Once a week. Every Saturday. Or Thursday. Did it have a fan base?

At your school? Oh yeah. It was the number one sport at my school. It was a small Catholic school. Why'd you pick Baltimore? You're from Nashville. Did you have any other options

to go to any other schools? Yeah. Oh yeah. I got recruited by Duke and Johns Hopkins. You didn't go to Duke? Lacrosse? No. Man, I'm glad I recruited by Duke and Johns Hopkins. You didn't go to Duke lacrosse? No.

I'm glad I didn't because that was when that whole… Oh, shit. The rape thing? And it was all made up. I saw that doc. That's when that went down. And a couple of those guys transferred to Loyal and played with us. So, you knew the story?

Yeah. What's the story then? What's the legit story? They had a… Tell people. Explain the background of what happened. Okay. What people think.

All these lacrosse players had a party one night, and then the party happened, and then a month or weeks later, this girl came out and said that they had... A few of them had raped her in the bathroom because she was a stripper that showed up at the party. Okay, and so she came out with all this this stuff okay this information and everybody jumped on these lacrosse players like oh you guys are wrong you dirty lacrosse players you bad bad boys rich boys

spoiled boys long hair think you get away with everything. Cocky. You rapists. You know? And then… And they got glued with that. And the season was canceled. Halfway through the season. This was your freshman year? This was during my sophomore year of high school. College.

College. Okay. So this was happening… Oh, so you didn't know. We were all in school. We were like, Holy shit. So you were at the…

Oh, damn. Lacrosse making big news like that. Big time. Big time. Were you hurt at this point? No, actually, this was my… I got kicked out of school after my sophomore year. I was going to…

I'll get there. But I got kicked out of school. So I had to take a year off. This happened in my year off. That's exactly how it went down. You were going to go… So you found out sophomore year that… Oh yeah, Yale.

Yeah, and Yale. But you're talking about Duke and how… If you would have went there… I would have been in that… And would have dealt with that scandal… Then I would not have ever made into the music, which is my… This is my purpose to do this.

To be a songwriter and play music for now. And I would have never gotten there. College was very important for me. There was a crossroads at the end of my sophomore year. We all went out

after that Yale game and drinking sake, drinking tequila. Yeah. Yeah. And we all came back to the hotel. I mean,

our dorm around 1 a.m. or midnight, early night. We went back to the room to party. Well, you have to… I mean, you have like a 6 a.m. call. So, you're getting fucked up. No, we were done with lacrosse. It was on to exam week.

So, we were like… We had nothing but free time the next… Y'all went to bed at midnight? No, no, no. We went back to the dorm to hang. You know, to get down. And I'm in the elevator. and I go up to the elevator and my buddy, I'm with five of my friends and there's four dudes in there.

One wearing like a white bandana, white boys, you know, Staten Island kids that were going to school there. And this, one of my buddies starts talking shit to this there. And this... One of my buddies starts talking shit to this guy. I don't know if it was about his bandana or something looking silly.

My buddy's this big. He's really small. Napoleon. Yes, totally. He was our goalkeeper. And we all were like, man, Trey, we got you, dog. We got you.

And so... He would run. This guy's going to be small and bulky though? No, no. He's small and tiny. Oh, really? Oh, shit. He's small and tiny. Yeah. Oh, really?

Oh, shit. Incredible goalkeeper. And great dude. One of my buddies. I'll see him tomorrow night. And when we play in Maryland. See all my lax bros. Oh, nice.

Bruh. And he starts running his mouth. And so the guy from Staten Island, somehow they jaw and he starts strangling my buddy. And I step in, I'm like, motherfucker, no, dude. Pick on somebody your own size kind of thing. And then the elevator door opens

and we all get pushed out. It's like, motherfucker, fuck this, fuck you, bitch, fuck you, cunt, fuck you, face. I'm gonna piss on you. And we're all drunk and lit up and they're all drunk and lit up. And they're all drunk and lit up. You guys on a brawl?

No. Kind of a pushing match. And then there's security cameras in each end of the hallway. So they got this on tape. Me being like, fuck you. And just swinging at him and missing. And falling into the wall. And you're wasted.

I'm wasted. And I cut my head open. I'm like, damn. Fuck you're wasted. I'm wasted. And I cut my head open. I'm like, damn, fuck. All right, let's go. Sorry, dude. And we get back in there.

Did they whoop your ass? No, no, no. They didn't do shit. They were scared. They were like terrified. But they were also like running their mouth, you know? So your teacher found out? Your teachers found out?

Oh, dude, there's more. There's more. There's way more. Two hours later, somebody pulls the fire alarm in the dormitory. Everybody, all 1,000 kids or 500 kids get pushed out of the dorms under the street, parking lot, right by a busy street.

His crew sees my crew. We start japping at each other. And then this guy and I get separated and he just gives me a nudge into the street like that and I just, well, he, you know,

he hits me like this and I just hit him back and he was drunk. I was bigger, like I was, you know, and he fell backwards into, I don't know if he faked it

or it was real. It just was one of those like, ah! But then he hit his forehead on a broken… A tree that had a broken tree branch sticking out the base really hard, firm.

And sliced it from here to here. And so as the campus police are responding to the fire alarm… This is all within like 18 seconds. They drive right by the scene. Dude on the ground's buddy's like, Hey! Fuck! It's like, Hey! Fuck!

It's like push. Boom. Yeah, you don't even… Holy shit! What the fuck? Cops. Yo! You know?

And so I go to jail. Cops come. And I go to jail in Baltimore, inner city. Was it a drunken public too? No, dude. This was assault. This was assault. Right when the kid fell and the cops showed up, he goes, did you do this?

And I was like, yeah. And he puts me in zip ties, campus police. And then the real Baltimore police come and I get in the paddy wagon and I'm back there for like 30 minutes. My buddy's in there with me because he was like, I'm going to jail. He's going to jail. I'm going to jail. Fuck you. They're like, get the fuck in there too.

And I'm sitting in the paddy wagon. He's already passed out. I'm rubbing my foot on his leg trying to rip hairs out of his leg because we're both in handcuffs to wake him up because I know his dad's a lawyer. And I was like, dude, Carter, wake fuck. He just already passed out. He was lawyer. And I was like, dude, Carter, wake… Fuck! Because I was…

He just already passed that one. He was just… He was out. He was just like… Jesus Christ. And I go to jail. When I get in the cop car, they take me from the paddy wagon

into the cop car. The cop… The officer goes, you know, I was like, what happened, man? What happened, dude? I'm worried.

He's like, man, I don't know if you're going to make it. And I said, what do you mean? He's like, man, I don't know if you're going to make it. And I said, what do you mean? He's like, oh, the paramedic gave me the 403 code. What the fuck is a 403 code? An uncertain future. What?

Yeah. And so I'm like, holy shit. All right, let's go to the police station. We're going to the police station. They handcuffed me to a metal bench for 12 hours. And I think that I've killed this person. His friends come in for questioning. I'm handcuffed to the fucking desk. Just like the movies, man. Metal bench. Ain't moving. And I see their friends walk back out from questioning. They look at me like I'm a killer. Or they just look at me like- Over a killer. You know? Or they just look at me like… Over a push.

Over a push. Wrong place, wrong time. And he… I find out that the paramedics said that later on to get everybody out of the way. To fake the cop into thinking that this was a major situation. Because there was a commotion around it. But he had just cut his capillary open right here. Like wrestlers, WWF guys do.

And it bleeds everywhere. But it was drunk. Thin blood. You know? And so... Yeah. And so I got kicked out of school for a year.

I have to go to anger management. I have to go to drug and alcohol rehabilitation classes. Government paid kind because I couldn't afford to do the shit. Hold on. Lost me.

How much did it cost you? No. How much did it cost you? One was free because it was a government... No, the whole thing. This whole endeavor. I got sued for $1.3 much did it cost you? One was free. Because it was a government… No, the whole thing. This whole endeavor.

I got sued for $1.3 million. Jesus fucking Christ. It cost me… What a pussy. It cost me around… Five grand. Maybe 10 grand. All in.

Twelve actually. Yeah. Get a lawyer. All that bullshit. How scary. And then they… He just cut his… You're like,

Thank God. Right? And then after that, I found out he was okay. After that, then I get moved into the big jail in Baltimore City. And I'm in there for two nights. What?

48 hours. No, more than that. Of the 72 hours, I spent 12 in this precinct. And they put me in the wagon and they loaned me into the jail. And I'm in one cell that's like as big as eight by eight

with seven guys in it and a toilet and withdrawal, drunk tank. And then I get moved to another one that has a few less guys in it where this dude threatens to kill me through the glass. He's like, he rips his arms off of the cops and he looks at me and my buddy Carter. He's like, I'mips his arms off of the cops. And he looks at me and my buddy Carter. He's like,

I'm going to kill you, white boy. And he looked… His eyes were like… You know? He's on that ooey or something. Something, dude. Ripped too. Huge, man.

I was like, oh God. This is not good. You're a Baltimore prison white boy. Blue shorts. My New Balance shoes with the black Nike socks. Hot from the lacrosse game. And yes. Yeah. And then my new… shoes with the black Nike socks. Hot from the lacrosse game. And yes. Yeah.

And then my new… Right off the turf, baby. My New Balance. Gray New Balances. You know them. Turned into my pillow in jail. How many days were you in? Two days in that jail.

And I got moved and I moved around all these cells. And then I got… It was fucking crazy because no windows. No nothing except for a hole the size of a CD case. That was driving me fucking crazy. then I got it was fucking crazy because no windows no nothing except for a hole the size of a CD case

that was driving me fucking crazy then I got moved upstairs and I got you still didn't know he was a killer oh you did know I knew that he was okay

yeah and they still put you in this bullshit well they had to you know I was like were you still drunk no I was sober

yeah you sobered up yeah it was it was I can go on and on about you sobered up. Yeah, it was… I can go on and on about that shit, but that… So what was that? Was that the revelation though? Like, that's like, oh, fuck.

That was the first one where I was like, man, I cannot be living the way that I was just living. I can't react like that. Were you getting fucked up all the time? No. No, we were working. I mean, we were in college. Yeah, every weekend we would get lit.

Yeah, but that's college. Yeah, totally. Nothing like… Whatever. Nothing over the top. So why did you have that relevation then? The relative revelation of the stereo nation keeps me paste, repaste. I don't know, man.

I had to work all that year off. I worked at a moving company in a packaged goods store in a bar. And I hustled and I still lived with my college roommates because we had all signed a lease before all the shit went down and I hustled my ass off and I like I wanted to get back into the swing of what I was offset big-time And I didn't transfer it anywhere else. I decided to stick the year off and you know, come back to school

Yeah And I took the year off and my dad gave me a guitar in that year and I started noodling around on it over Christmas break and he showed me a couple things and I went back to college and my roommate, Grant, who's one of my best friends,

a guiding light for me and an amazing father and husband, really special dude, he had a bass guitar and he got it for Christmas. So we're in my room, our room in college, like playing along

to String Cheese and Yonder Mountain and Particle. Yeah, this is how it all started. Particle and, oh, dude. All of them.

And then, you know, Grateful Dead. And then I moved away from the jam and started listening to J.J JJ Kale and Allman Brothers and some real shit you know yeah real good music that I had been interested introduced to when I was a kid but I never gave it the shot never

gave it a shot didn't never listen to the lyrics what those what that mean to you and your father's relationship from that well we've always been tight and it was so gradual of... And then I had two more years of college and I started a cover band. Over the next two years of college, I played guitar a bunch, sang in the band, noticed people liked that

when I was singing. You're back in Nashville now. No, I'm in Baltimore. Oh, you stayed. When I came back to college after my year off, I quit the team halfway through the season. And I was like, I'm going to live my life. And then that's when we tried out for the Battle of the Bands at school. We didn't make it because we didn't have original songs.

But this was my first band, Ralph and the Movers. Because I worked in the band. What type of music was it? We did Jimi Hendrix… Sublime… Tom Petty… The band… Old Crow Medicine Show…

Talking Heads… Oh, so it's eclectic as fuck. Yeah. And… Because I worked with… In the band, it was two guys from the moving company. Old dudes.

No shit. Big Bob. Big black dudes. 6'8". Played drums. Drank vodka minis. Big Bob, big black dudes, 6'8". Play drums, drank vodka minis in Heineken 22s. In Heineken's? In Heineken's. He poured the vodka

mini in Heineken's. I love that. Big Bob is... Tell me when to move on. Keep going, man. Big Bob is in another brick in the wall. His parents were diplomats and he lived in London

and was in this kid's choir that sang on that recording. No shit. Yeah. And then he moved to the States, met his wife and had kids, you know. Killer musician still?

Killer drummer. Killer drummer. Yeah. But they just wanted to come to the college parties and like hang out. And go fuck some. Yeah.

Well, I don't know if they ever did that. Nobody would touch that shit. No? Yeah, were they gross out there or what? They were big boys, you know? They were big old men, you know?

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On today's segment we will be analyzing the lyrical structure of the song Lift Yourself by Kanye West. Let's get it on. This next verse, this next verse, though these bars, watch this, whoop, scoop. Poop, poop, scoop diddy, whoop. Whoop diddy scoop, whoop diddy scoop, poop. Apparently this young man is cleaning up, well, possibly canine excrements. His limited vocabulary emphasizes this stultifying activity. Could he be on community service?

See you next week in Staying Relevant with Arno Bakker. So when did you start writing original music? What was the years? Were you writing original music while you're doodling with these covers and shit? No, at the end of my senior year,

it was like exam week again. And the same exact week where I got in that fight and went to jail. But two years later… Sorry, three years. You took five years to get to school? Yeah. Well, I took the year off. But you graduated.

No. No. I left. Two classes short. I just was like, I got to get the school? Yeah. Well, I took the year off. Yeah, yeah. But you graduated. No. No. I left. Got out. Two classes short. I just was like, I got to get the fuck out of here. How much was your debt?

Were you still on a ride? A full ride or no? No, I lost it. They told me the reason, one of the reasons why I took the year off and didn't decide to transfer to another college

is because they told me they'd keep my scholarship for another two years. And so, when I went back to register for classes after my year off, it says,

ding, ding, ding, you have not paid for the classes. So, I went to the athletic department and talked to the head coach at the time. His name was Bill Durgle.

And he was a fucking fruitcake in a head case. Yeah. And he would get high during practice. He was like, super fucking intense, man. Like Coke high or weed high? No, weed high. Okay. And he would get high during practice. He was like, super fucking intense, man. Like coke high or weed high?

No, weed high. Okay. And this was before, you know, and we would see him and we were losing. We sucked. You know,

he had no grip on the team. Yeah. His whole coaching staff except for Charlie Toomey had no grip on the team. We didn't respect the sport. We were like, we came in as stoners

and we, our senior class was party animals and they didn't give a fuck. Because the legendary coach Dave Cottle left… Who recruited me and my whole class. He left at the end of the season before my freshman year of college. Wow. So it's like a new program now. And like…

If they're going to honor the deals like If they're gonna honor the deals They're gonna honor the deals So how much Were you in debt Before you became a musician? 70 grand Holy shit dude Then you're going to do a gig

Where you make no fucking money For like 10 years Yeah Yeah totally dude Wow So you held 70 grand in debt Did your parents help you at all? Or anyone help you?

No we didn't We weren't like that, you know. My grandparents signed us. Respect, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, there was just no money. Yeah, of course. But like 70K.

70K. Holy shit. My grandparents co-signed so I could get the loan out last minute so I could start my junior year of college. You know, they're like, yeah, we got you. We got you.

Just fucking pay it. Yeah. They're like, please do not let this come back on us. But yeah. Wow. So you go into a music industry already 70k in debt

from something that you thought was going to be your dream. Now you take this knowledge from… Because you're pretty smart. You're knowing what runs an organization, what runs a team. Now are you basing that into your music industry strategy? You're pretty smart. You're knowing what, how, what runs an organization, what runs a team. Now, are you basing that

into your music industry strategy? So like, what are you doing now? Say, oh, fuck, I need to make some money doing this music industry thing.

What was, what was the years like, fuck, let's take this on the road or let's, let's write some songs. You know, what,

what was there? What was those years like? Like before there was a money and an accountant. Yeah. Before. Like when you're doing everything. Man, it was amazing.

I wanted it to move faster than it did. But in hindsight, I see everything and how it happened. I'm glad you asked this question because I look back on that time where I had made the decision after college to move around the country a little bit and then do some traveling. Get your feet wet. Get my feet wet. Live my life. You know, figure out what I want to do.

With this $70,000 debt. Yeah. I just ignored it for years. I crushed my credit score, but I didn't give a fuck. I would ignore the phone calls eight daily, you know, and ignore the heaps of letters they would send, whatever address. And I'm sorry to anybody that's lived in a house after me between 2003. I mean, between 2007 and 2008 and 2014, 15, 16.

Yeah. Oh my God. Bless their hearts. I've been running from Sally Mae for years. But I pay now. But, you know, I didn't give a fuck. I was like, I was really stoked that I had fallen into the river of sound and music,

you know, and I was into it. I lived in some family friend's house in Nashville for free for three years. And I was into it. I lived in some family friend's house in Nashville for free for three years. And I was there like… I took care of their kids when they had to travel. Big old house. I had the back garage. And I wrote and wrote and wrote.

And I played guitar. And I didn't have to have a job. I ate the food they let me do. It was a super valuable time. So these were your like wood shop years. Totally. So like two years in. So you didn't have to make too much money.

You're just living off of the end meat. Selling weed. Selling weed. Fucking. Shitty. I'm the worst weed dealer too. I'd be like, fuck,

I didn't make any money. Yeah. I'd just give it out. Like at the end of the day, you're hanging out with your homies. Totally. They need a bag. Oh, fuck it.

How about 40? Yeah. I'll hook you up. So crazy. So what, so from there, did you meet, who was like the inspiration?

Like, all right, I got to take this shit on the road. Like, I need to start making money. Did you get kicked out of like your situation at home or what happened to make you? The inspiration was, I had had songs.

I was hanging out with these guys. You know, Brothers Osborne? Fuck. Yeah. I was hanging out with them back in the day. Ten years. Nine years ago. When they were just getting going.

John the brother had a band called King Billy. And TJ was like this. The young. Young fucking. Incredible voice. Dude. Yeah. We were like TJ's gonna be a fucking star.

Yeah. I don't know how he's gonna get there. But we're like. I could sing. Right. I'm hanging out with them. They to get there, but we're like, I could sing and write. I'm hanging out with them. They have a friend named Eric Massey, who is one of the dropout,

Berkeley dropout insurgents that came down to Nashville. Matty Diaz, singer-songwriter. Kyle Ryan, a band leader for Casey Musgraves. Charlie Worsham, country guy.

They all make a year, and that's it. Or not even a year. Yeah. I don't even know how. I think all of them, that whole. They all make a year. And that's it. Or not even a year. Yeah. I don't even know how… I think all of them… That whole crew went there for a few years. Oh, really?

Yeah. I hear a lot of people don't… Like John Mayer only did a year. I mean, I would never go to that school. I would never ever go to music school. But there are people that… Why though? Explain that.

I think the proper approach to playing tunes and writing tunes is you be natural with it. You feel what you want to feel and you explore the instrument and you ask questions. Not you are taught theory. You are taught how notes should go together. What makes a good song a good song by a teacher. I have a strong first line,

a catchy melody that lifts in the fifth and the fourth, fourth, fifth suspended minor fall. This worked here with Pink Floyd. I have a strong first line a catchy melody that lifts in the fifth and the fourth and fifth suspended minor fall this worked here with Pink Floyd like no it's so true dude

you gotta wake like isn't music supposed to be in the moment yeah in the moment and you live your life and then it's a it's a diary

you know of a human being not an instructed gift you know and it is a gift it's like i i look at i like i was saying when i found the river of song you know and this thing this um i was what's that river look to you

oh uh beautiful when you look up river there's a it goes straight and then it bends and uh and you can't see what's around the bend, but there's a big cliff on each, on the left side, it goes like this and a tree overhanging and, uh, and, and then like beautiful sound of the river, you know, and then you look down the river and it's, uh, like a beautiful, the trees go like this and they reflect in the water. So it looks like… Man. You're pretty woke as fuck, Raylan. This sounds like psilocybin. Do you take psilocybin? Sometimes. I microdose psilocybin.

But I don't… I do psilocybin probably once a year maybe. For what? Spiritual reasons or party reasons? Just a little… Yeah. I like the concentrate stuff that I've had. But the mushroom stem, that all fucks my stomach up big time.

And I'm uncomfortable. I take LSD. You take LSD? Yeah. What do you like about it? I like… You ever do performing? A couple times, yeah. How was that? It's been like two of my favorite shows ever. Why? Were you in the moment? Were you it? I like… You ever do performing? A couple times, yeah.

It's been like two of my favorite shows ever. Why? Were you in the moment? Were you present? I listened. I could hear… I listened to the instruments in the band. I could hear everything.

I played less. I knew I was locked in. How much did you take? A microdose. Like a… It was in a big-ass water bottle like this. I filled up the little water cap on top and just drank it. And that was it.

A little sprinkle. Enough to make me feel kind of like… How many hours before… Two. Two or three. Two or three, yeah. Oh, so you were in. Yeah, I was in.

Yeah. I like taking mushrooms middle of my set. Whoa. And so I have full confidence and focus of… Because I'm a front man. I crowd surf. I fucking do the bar mitzvah. Yo, we're going to see…

I'm playing right after you. Yeah. I'm stoked. Yeah. It's a party. So we're a party band. But like I have to be confident enough that I'm winning the crowd in the first four songs. Yeah. So I can be comfortable and now start being present with the band again. You know? You got to glue them in. And then you could do whatever the the band again. You know, you got to glue them in and then you could

do whatever the fuck you want, you know? But like, with that approach, what do you take for live show approach? Like how you build a set, how you build a show.

I don't know if you talk a lot on stage or… Because you're a funny dude. I mean, you got a good personality. Do you bring that on stage? I do.

I do. I like in-between songs. Yeah, stick stuff. And I'm just kind of getting into my thing. I don't… I've been pretty still. I'm a big guy, you know?

And for me… You're just tall. It took me… Yeah. I'm a tall guy. And it took me a while to get off the chair performing. Like I would…

That's for the first few years playing on a chair sitting down like… I listen to your older records. Like, what's that record with Olivia on it? Feathers and Fish Hooks. Love that record. Yeah, it's good.

Very beautiful record, man. And going to there, and now hearing this record where it feels like… We opened for Dr. Dog, and it feels like a Dr. Dog space. Like, ambiance. You know, like, I love that shit. I heard Butch Walker produced it.

Butch Walker produced it. That's my fucking Walker produced it. Butch Walker produced it. That's my fucking guy, dude. Butch is the king. Dude, I've always wanted to work with Butch. Like, I was a Butch fan way in 2000. I used to work for Drive Thru Records where I was booking pop punk bands. And Butch would be, you know,

writing songs for Paramore and shit. Totally. Like, he's the hitmaster. Hitmaster, dynamic producer, and a singer-songwriter himself. Side note, Eric Slick from Dr. Dog the Drummer played drums on Wide Awake. Get the fuck out of here.

Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like he's the best living drummer under the age of… The whole record. Dude, it felt… And Butch played bass. Raylan!

Oh, that gives me… The band is incredible. Nick Bockrath, who plays in Cage the Elephant. He played guitar. He was with us today. Aaron Embry, a singer-songwriter. Are they all Nashville cats or what? No. Slick is from Philly.

Nick's from Philly. You handpicked this? What's that? Dream Team for you? Did I put it together? Handpicked this band? Nick and I did. Dream Team? Yeah, Dream Team. And? Did I put it together? Handpicked this band? Nick and I did. Dream Team?

Yeah, Dream Team. And, you know, Nick was like, Slick should do it. Slick. I was like, I love Slick. All right, let's do it. He's the best.

Great. Fucking great. No click on the entire record. So Butch produced the whole record? Butch produced the record. Where'd you do it? In California? At his studio, Ruby Red.

Aaron Embry played keyboards and piano. And Aaron Embry. Do you know Aaron Embry? Oh my God. Dude. Yeah. dude yeah Rob Moose did the strings what a dream dude

Miss Bobby Hall played percussion on the record Miss Bobby Hall from Marvin Gaye's band yeah from live at Budokan Bob Dylan

Joni Mitchell shut the she came in from the desert in California she's like 65 years old now brought her pug played bongos and tambourines so that's

how does Butch approach record? I know how he approached this one. Like pre-production. Like yeah. No pre-production. None. Fuck yes. I wrote these songs and formed them and made demos.

It was like this is when the harmony comes in. This is when the ooze come in. Here's a guitar lick right here. And here's the drum groove. But although Slick is a G. He just felt the thing. Slick's a singer lick right here. And here's the drum… Here's the drum groove. But although… Slick is a G. He just felt the thing. Slick's a singer-songwriter.

Butch is a singer-songwriter. Aaron Embry is a singer-songwriter. The four of us in the room… Getting behind the song. You know? So sick. Butch… It's like the band.

Totally. I would love to play a tour with that band. Oh my god. You will. You will. They're all like… They're all super busy. But then… We'll get them. Dr my god. You will. You will. They're all like… They're all super busy. But then you know…

We'll get them. Dr. Dog will take a year off. Butch will want to tour. Everyone wants to take a year off or take touring when everyone else doesn't want to. That's the thing about those super bands. But have you done at least a couple shows?

Live shows at the event? None. Who won? I will let you. I mean… Butch is on tour. Slick's on tour. He's always on tour.

So what's his… How's that working with him? Is he like… Is he ADD as fuck? Like he's got like 10 different projects going at once? Or he's all you?

He might, but I didn't know. He was focused. He was focused. And he got… We all got each other. It was a dream, magical situation.

What'd you learn from Butch from that experience? He even said this himself, but this is like the best thing a producer can do is how to stay out of the way and know when to stay out of the way and let things form

and not control it. Because I've produced a few records in the last two years. None of them, which none of them have been out yet. I don't know if they'll ever come out. Dude's got momentum

and inspiration to do what this shit is. And I saw Butch do his thing and then I saw how I got in the studio where I would try to micromanage in situations and realize that there's much easier, more poetic, not poetic,

but just a smoother approach to letting the musicians play what they want to play and not telling them anything sometimes and just seeing how it goes when they listen to the song. Yeah. What they hear your demo is to them. Totally. That's important.

Especially if you trust your bass player, you trust your drummer, you know. It's where it starts and ends. That's the trust. Me and Potatoes. And I learned… I saw his groove in the studio. He got quick, good sounds. trust your drummer you know that's where it starts and ends that's the trust me and potatoes and I learned I saw his groove in the studio

he got quick good sounds he had great instruments he knew how to get around his studio him and his engineer Todd Stopera fantastic dudes let's leave this

conversation we gotta do this again you're a good guy totally we got this we have homies in Nashville I'm gonna get a podcast going where we talk about

like the fake shit. Yeah, dude. We never got into tour life, but you know. Give me one crazy story that's ever happened on the road. It could be

crazy stalker girls blowing up your phone, bad hookup, getting dosed. Tell me something. Give me some dirt. Give me some dirt, buddy. Give me some dirt. You some dirt buddy Give me some dirt

You ever have a threesome? Five-some? Oh yeah I've had a threesome In LA Yeah? How was that? Amazing

It was in the Roosevelt Hotel What happened? Two people Ladies Women Friends of mine That I've known for a few years Who convinced you?

I think… I don't remember. Usually, I would be the one convincing. But I feel like it was one of those things where one of them looked at me and she's like, and I was just like, oh my god. Okay. Let me pay my tab. We'll get the fuck out of here.

Because my buddy in another band who was in LA playing, they had bus call at 1 a.m. So he gave me his hotel room. It was right down. We played at the hotel cafe that night. And baller show. Man, it's like we didn't play

at an arena or like a Hollywood Bowl. It's like hotel cafe, that dark ass alley. Where they shuttle everybody out. Get the fuck out. We have another 17 bands. Yeah. We got 17 songwriter circle.

Yeah. Yeah. Kumbaya. 7.0 is here. So you're outside of the festival. Outside of the… You guys hooking up with each other? No.

No. No. We're just like having a good old time. But I knew one of them was… Was ready to smash. Yeah. So how hard was it to convince the other one? They had already talked about it.

It was already in motion. I was like… Because I told one that… I was like, I got the keys to the Roosevelt, baby. Let's go. And she's like, okay, hold on. Let me ask. And then they came back.

And then we went and it overlooked some neon lights and we were sitting in cigs out the window having your totally French memoir moment you know totally I've also had a threesome

in Paris really? 10 years ago French girls are the best Olivia is about a French girl tell me about it Olivia Brunette yeah she left me

high and dry dude she caught me like double timing on her. No shit. Yeah, in Paris. I'd gone there to be a guitar tech for a band after college before I had started doing my thing. I went to guitar tech, a band.

And the tour was in three weeks, two weeks in Paris doing TV and radio for an album. And I met her like the third night. And we went to the, you know, we hooked up and then she's like, I love, I want a cowboy.

And I was like, I'll be a cowboy, baby. And so I finished the tour. We hung out almost every day and then I went back to Nashville for four months. Second portion of the tour,

they want to tour again. I go back out to Paris. We do three days in Paris. Olivia's not there. And so I meet Marion. And Marion and I had a night in the hotel room next to

the guitar player in the band's hotel room who was hooking up with Olivia's best friend. They're in the hotel room. They heard me moaning and groaning and shit going on in the hotel room. And then I... This is incredible, dude. And then I go away. I go live in Israel for six months. Yeah, I heard about that.

On my way back to the States, I go through Paris. And at the whole time, Olivia came to Israel to visit for four days. And I was still talking with Mavion, you know, being a bad boy. And being a bad boy and being a bad boy and

okay I'm going back to the States to start my tenure in Nashville yeah 10 years ago and

I swing through Paris for three days I tell Olivia that I'm getting in on Saturday I tell Marion I'm getting in on Friday because I'm getting in

on Friday Marion and I dude Marion and I spend getting in on Friday because I'm getting in on Friday. Marion and I… Double-dipping son of a bitch. Dude, Marion and I spend Friday night together in her apartment. Third level up from the street. She had just broken up

with her boyfriend like a week before and they were like going through shit and she just wanted to say ha ha ha. You know? And it's so Parisian.

The bay windows are open. We're doing it in the bed. And I hear her ex-boyfriend, Marione. Marione. You're talking to yourself. You're doing the best you can. She's like…

Shh… Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

And… I love European girls. They're the best. They're down to earth they're real as fuck man it's fucking sexy the next day I

I I called Olivia I was like hey I'm in the airport I wasn't in the airport I'm coming to get you she's like okay cool

meet me at the bar we met at the she says I have a great surprise for you and I was like surprise I got two more days

maybe we're going to go to the south of France. Maybe she rented a car going in to drink some wine. Romance. And she's like, we get a beer.

She's like, hello, my love. Hello, my love. And I said, come, come. We'll sit down. Tell me how your trip was. You got in today?

Yeah, I got in today. It was a good flight. You know, was it an easy ride from the airport today? And I'm like, yeah, it was a good flight you know so was it an easy ride from the airport today and I'm like yeah it was great took the subway

and and then she we have a beer she's got her hand on my leg and and she goes okay I'll get ready for your surprise

after like 30 minutes of hanging she hands me a manila envelope with a lingerie bow around it because she worked

for a lingerie company in Paris, like retro. And Betty Page looking. She's like, I mean, white skin, black bangs. Hot. Freckles. Hot. And yeah. And she's like, okay, you ready for your surprise?

And she hands me the envelope and I open it up. And it's like, okay, are you ready for your surprise? And she hands me the envelope and I open it up and it's like seven pages. Okay. One, the first three pages, four pages are my Gmail chat history with Marion. Oh my God.

And that's four pages. And then the fifth page is a map quest printed out to get back to Marion's apartment. Oh my God. And the fifth page is a map quest printed out to get back to Marion's apartment and the next page is the letter about like about a short thing of like something something I'm sure she will not mind if you come back to her house uh it was nice bye bye and then she looked at me she goes and I was frozen I'm reading it's like I'm caught I'm caught. I'm caught up. I'm caught. I have no idea what my face looked like. And then she looks at me and she stands up. She's got a short skirt on.

She's like, I thought you were better man. But this… No no no. And she just turns and walks and never looks back. Was she being friendly for the first 30 minutes? Or was she being… Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That for the first 30 minutes? Or was she being… Oh yeah.

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That's the worst. Because I left my… I signed into her Gmail five months prior and left it signed in automatic. Like, can you just…

When you open Gmail, it goes there. Yeah, she walked in. But why was she snooping around in the first place? Because her best friend heard me humping in the room next Ah she was on to you

Yeah Wow Raelynn You said it all Threesomes French women Don't give a fuck They're kinda cool

Like Some girls are just like Cut your dick off And like You know like You know No You wrote

What a life You wrote with Butch You're having great success I'm just really proud of you man dick off. And like, you know, like, you know, you wrote, what a life. You wrote with Butch. You're having great success. I'm just really proud of you, man. I watched you afar and now that I get to know you as a homie,

can't wait to watch the live show. Oh, we're hanging tonight. Are you going out? You got to go home? We got to host an hour and a half north. Okay,

so we're kicking. No, no, no. Oh, you're going to hang out? Oh, yeah,

dude. Fuck yeah. Oh, yeah. Raylan, thanks for being on the show, buddy. Yeah,

this is fun. We're going to do it again. You got to have your Fuck yeah. Oh, yeah. Raylan, thanks for being on the show, buddy. Yeah, this is fun. We're going to do it again. You got to have your own show. You're really good. Man, I don't know about questions, but yeah, maybe. But we got to cover different… Maybe you can help me off…

Off… Yeah. We'll talk later. About ideas. Yeah. Raylan, good to see you, buddy. Thank you. Thank you. You say we're done

Backed up your stuff It's really over You had enough There's one thing I'd like to say, before you leave me Fuck you bitch, you broke my heart Fuck your friends for tearing us apart Fuck your dog, hope he never comes home

Fuck you bitch, hope you wind up alone Now you're gone, I'm by myself Jerking off to pictures on the cell But before I swipe on your face I just scream Fuck you bitch, you broke my heart Fuck your friends for tearing us apart Fuck your dog, hope he never comes home

Fuck you bitch, hope you wind up alone you bitch hope you wind up alone that's it guys thanks for coming out to the show yeti it's always good having you in my house did you just say thanks for coming out to the show yeah is that bad oh god this went in autopilot guys thanks for uh is that bad huh that was an autopilot frasco move right there i get it i get it but uh subscribe to the show right eddie why don't you give why don't you be the guy who just pitches the at the end of the thing i like arno's voice well yeah before that the pre like oh when we're going voice. Well, yeah. Before that, the pre. Oh, when we're going out.

Yeah. Because I'm the closer. You're the closer. Because you're only a finisher sometimes. Did you love that movie I made for you? Yeah.

Two inches from… What is it? Four? It's two inches and to the left, the Andy Frasco story. We've got the trailer coming out.

We're going to post that. There's going to be some heavy editing in that fucking trailer. First off, it's boring. But it's okay. Yeah. We're going to post that. There's going to be some heavy editing in that fucking trailer first off. It's boring. But it's okay. You're just learning

how to use iMovie. We've got to subscribe to our podcast. Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast with Yeti. Give us some comments on the comment board.

Show people if you like it or not. Give us some feedback on iTunes. Go to the comments. Rate it. So far, we have… We're still a five-star rating.

Five-star. We're still in top 100. Every episode. Every episode's getting out there. And we've… We're finding some success. And it's because you guys are feeding back to us what you like. And we love participating with you on Instagram.

We got merchandise too now oh yeah merch we got t-shirts and stickers join the club join the party frasco and yeti.com frasco and yeti.com check it out uh click on the merch tab arno take us out with something nice something proper something smooth something smooth Have a great day, guys. Love you. Come over here. Well, thank you for listening to episode 23 of Andy Fresco's World's Favorite Podcast with Yeti. Produced by Andy Fresco, Yeti, Joe Angelow, and Chris Lawrence.

Please subscribe and rate the show on iTunes and Spotify so we can make this a worldwide phenomenon. For info on the show, please head to our Instagram at Fresco and Yeti. For more info on the blog and tour dates, head to andyfresco.com. For more information on our guest,

Rayland Baxter, please head to raylandbaxter.com. And we had a song by Wheeler Walker Jr. This week's special guests are Sean Eccles, Ernie Chang and Arno Bakker. This week's personal news? I get to go to China with Andy. I celebrate my quinquaginary life. Do I speak Chinese?

Bye-bye.