Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 230: Tenth Mountain Division

Episode Date: August 1, 2023

What's this?! A new Andy Frasco & The U.N. song right at the top of this week's show, just for you dear listener! You can have this and the top of our Everything Bagel. Andy and the boys are on tour through Colorado this week and next, so check tour dates to catch him flexing songs from the new album, L’Optimist. On to more pressing matters, we got Colorado's own Tenth Mountain Division on the Interview Hour! Find out what makes this band so goshdarn magnetic tmdtunes.com Watch this episode streaming now!! Psyched to partner up with our buddies at Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. Call, leave a message, and tell us how you really feel: [phone]  Check out our new single, You Do You streaming on Spotify and Apple Music now! And while you're at it, give a big middle finger to the bigots in your life Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out our good friends that help us unwind and sleep easy while on the road and at home: dialedingummies.com Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Marina Kyle Ayers

Hey guys, Andy. Hope you're doing well out there. Hope you're just kicking ass. Hope this week just brings you everything you desire. And if it doesn't, screw it. There's always next week. I'd like to premiere another single off our new record. Yes, the album comes out next week, people. August 11th, La Optimist is finally out. I'm really proud of this. And it's suiting that we have this song released this week because we have 10th Mountain Division on the show.

And Andrew Cooney, the bass player of 10th Mountain Division, wrote this song with me. He actually brought this song to attention. It's an old song of his. And we changed it up, changed some lyrics, changed some vibes to make it feel like a Frasco love song. And I've been riding with Andrew ever since. He's a great writer.

So this song is called Everything Bagel. We have Logan Rex from Article Sound System as the duet. And this is a cute song. And I hope you like it too. I hope you find someone that you can give the top of your everything bagel to. So Chris, play the flute, baby. I'd like to bring another world premiere of Andy Frask with a new end song, Hot, off The Optimist that comes out August 11th.

This song is called Everything Bagel. Take the blankets if you're cold When you're close I'm always warm My heart is on fire Just in case you didn't know Go ahead and look at my phone I got nothing I can hide okay maybe skip the notes I'll sing you every song in time you can have the top of my everything bagel You can have your first sip of chocolate bill You know I love it when you're sitting at my table You can have the top of my everything bagel

Honey, you don't have to say a word I know when you've had a long day Plus we can say I love you In a million other ways I'll bring you smokes when you're hungover Fried from a night out on the town I've got everything I need I'm talking about you

Maybe can't you see It's never been more true What I'm about to say Words can be mistaken So I'll tell you just in case And if the message gets lost I think the toaster just went off You can have the top of my everything bagel

You can have the top of my everything bagel. You can have the first sip of chocolate milk. You know I love it when you're sitting at my table. You can have the top of my everything bagel. My everything baby. My everything bagel. My everything baby My everything bagel My everything baby My everything bagel

My everything baby My everything bagel My everything baby My everything bagel Everything is an equal. Oh, you're such a dick. Ready? Yeah, but it's fine. All right. And we're back.

Andy Frasca. Sympatico, as you would say. No, it's Sympatico. I know. I'm still making fun of you again. Anyway, go back to your... Hi, guys. It's Andy.

Hello, Andy. Look at your foot. It's so wide. I got the weirdest, grossest feet. Your feet are not fit. I can't believe how many people love my feet. You might want to hit the audio this week, guys. Volume.com. Andy Frco's World's Same Podcast

I'm Andy Frasco How's our heads? How's our minds? We staying out of trouble? Or we just Sometimes like Just want to Change it up a little bit

Like Our guy over here Mr. Nathaniel Rateliff Over here I'm trying to learn How to write songs I'm trying to write lyrics

You look like you're going To gamble At a horse racing place No these are Two nice sunglasses I think for that For all our audio listeners Nick is wearing

Sunglasses inside Those are really cool I'm kind of getting Into wearing sunglasses Inside It fits me I don't know I can pull it off

I really like this This bun down You're wearing too It's cute And then you're wearing this fucking singer hat. I'm dressing like the bands you like so you like me more.

And I'm trying to learn how to write more lyrics. Anyways, I'm not going to ask Andy for a raise or anything, but this hat was $900. So if you want to head over to my website and buy my book or just drop a donation in there, you can. Just put hat in the memo.

Do you really think you deserve a raise? If I did, I wouldn't ask. I only do bits. Here's your chance. I don't want a raise. I want you to promote why you need a raise. I don't want a raise. A raise will come to me when I deserve it.

That's how raises work. Hmm. I wish everyone had that same philosophy. And if you need me to sign anything, I'm here. Yeah, you actually said... You never ask. You don't ask.

Well, the last raise I got, I didn't ask. You don't ask for raises. Well, there are some situations where you can. If you're in a business... I mean, let's say Walmart. Exactly. We're in a band. No, we're not in a band.

We're in a podcast, but I get it. But I know now you're not yelling at me. You're yelling at someone else. But my other thing with the raising is like, there are some situations. It's hard in music, but if you work for a company and you just brokered a huge deal

or you made everything better, you're making them more money in a tangible way that you can show. I mean, to be honest, with your new look right now, I feel like I need a rake. I feel like a man who needs a rake. Should I get this guy into a two-bedroom apartment? How's it going, Nick? It's going great, actually.

You feeling good today? Yeah, I'm coming back from the weed dinner. I'm on tour. I'm on tour. I leave on tour. Yeah, with 10th Mountain. Yeah, it's going to be cool. We have them on the show, actually. I want everyone to know about our openers.

So we have 10th Mountain Division on the show. Up and coming band from Denver, Colorado. I'm trying to promote, now that the podcast has some fans, regardless of who the guests are, I'm going to try to bring some newer bands into the podcast space and try to give them some love. Producers, too. I got one.

He's got an album coming out. Drew Burch. Oh, Drew, for sure. You guys got to know about Recess. Plus, it's coming out next month. We did a lot of great interviews this week. We did Maddie O'Neal. Madelaine.

She's one of my besties So Shear Not one of my besties But I have a deep respect for her We got the girl Who was on SNL That's her Yeah She's a badass

And director And I don't know She's not a director She's a writer She could be She's doing stand up She probably will be someday

She's so funny She's very multi-talented Very intelligent That was a great interview And then we did a co-podcast with Chris Pandolfi. He's actually, I really haven't seen him in person. Really?

I thought you were buddies. I played a show with him. But I didn't have like two hours with him and just look at his eyes and stuff. He's hot. He's a good looking dude. I didn't realize that, what's his face? The hot guy in the band, the hot guy, the 10? Andy. Andy Hall. There's two Andys, right? Andy Falco. I didn't realize he was's his face The hot guy in the band The hot guy of the 10 Andy Andy Hall There's two Andys right

Andy Falco I didn't realize he was a shorty Short king Infamous string doesers Are low key all kind of hot Yeah they were Especially when you consider Their bluegrass band

Yeah I didn't realize And I totally forgot about Travis Book That homie is hot as fuck too Which one's that The bass Bass player Yeah yeah yeah

They all have great hair And they stand up straight And they look at you and shake your dad's hand when they meet him. You know what I mean? We got a lot of great guests coming up and we have stuff that,

in the books, right? You got a couple lined up in the docket that we're trying to get scheduled. Some big ones. Megan Markle. They're getting divorced. They called that.

Yeah, she needs all the promos. You did call that. I'm proud of you. That was a good one. Even my girlfriend was like, you write about a lot of stuff and you predict it. I'm like, yes, I promo. You did call that. I'm kind of... I'm proud of you. That was a good one. Even my girlfriend was like, you're right about a lot of stuff and you predict it. I'm like, yes, I am.

It's all those... It's all those dialed-in gummies you eat. They do. They get you tapped into the vibrations of the royal family. It was really fun doing that dialed-in gummies weed dinner thing. The food was fire.

Oh, my God. All the best chefs. I think we freaked out a couple of them. Yeah, I remember the one guy I was we freaked out A couple of them Yeah I remember The one guy I was like Went on like a two minute rant About how come none of you guys

Were fat And he goes Okay cool That's a very nice We were doing chef's kiss Where every time They made something You were doing chef's kiss

With Kip I was doing Yeah I was kissing All the chefs And it was awesome And there were a couple Hotties in there Yeah that one chef

Was hot I like how they got You know It was diverse Yeah they had like An Indian chef They had Vietnamese Vietnamese guy And then some couple hotties in there. Yeah, that one chef was hot. I like how they got, you know, it was diverse. Yeah, they had like an Indian chef. They had a Vietnamese guy and then a regular white dude.

regular honky ass guy. See, we're diverse. Honkies can make sweet tea. We're diverse here in Denver, okay? Yeah. Everyone thinks we're just

a bunch of honkies. No, we got culture in this motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. I? Yeah. I mean, no. But yeah. Dialed in gummies. Let's pitch their... I mean,

we always talk about the edibles, but that was the first time I was... I love the liquid. The liquid edible is amazing. So Dialed in Gummies also has this product where it's like a... Julie loves it. It's a liquid. You could put it in your drinks. Yeah. And I loved it. It didn't get me as high. I drank a lot more of it.

I drank like 80 milligrams. I really was kind of like... I thought I was going to have a panic attack. You were high as shit. Because they were putting 20 milligrams in each dish. I was. You were doing it all slow like an old butler in Batman. Who's the butler?

Alfred in Batman. You were moving like him, like moving paintings around. But they all have cocks and vaginas drawn on them. I know. Andy's artwork is like 80% just genitals.

It is. Cartoon genitals. I mean, as you can see from the wall on the top, there's penis art from Porris Walker. You should call your next album Cartoon Genitals.

Cartoon Genitals. I like that. L.A. Cartoon Genitals, I mean.. L.A. cartoon genitals, I mean. So if you're getting bored with edibles and you feel like you want to mix it up a little bit, put it in your drinks. Dialed in Gummies has the edible liquid that is really fucking

good and it tastes good. We're putting it in salty dishes like pastas and fried chicken. It was so good You put it right on the biscuits Oh my god, remember that Viennese dude I forgot his name

He made that It was like a Viennese poutine Yeah, it was like Poutine Oh my god Leftover McDonald's fries Prime rib Hoisin sauce.

So good. It was called crispy, tangy crispy or something like that. Tingly crisp. God, that place was so good. So good. He was so nice. I think that was my favorite dish. And he had panda high tops.

He had panda high tops. Yeah. I love it. Nike pandas. He said, my wife's an ER doctor. I was like, oh, you rich, rich. Oh, yeah. You just chilling.

You on that. You on that food cart, man. He's rich, rich. No, yeah. You just chilling. You on that food cart, man. He's rich, rich. No, but I think that his food is amazing. I think he does pretty well. Yeah, I want to go over there. They're opening a brick and mortar, too. Oh, because it's in Avanti, right?

Yeah, but then they're opening a... He said they're opening a brick and mortar in Park Hill at some point, but I don't know when. I love food. Very localized. I'm okay with food. I prefer drinks. I was talking to Andrew Cooney. Do I like him?

He's right. By the way... Get it? Everything bagel. Yeah. I prefer drinks I was talking to Andrew Cooney Do I like him? He right By the way Get it? Everything Bagel Yeah That was cute Everything Bagel I hope you enjoy

The new single Everything Bagel What's that? Andrew Cooney And I wrote that one Well he wrote it And I helped Produce it

And then change up The format I like how he is In the studio What? I like how he is In the studio He's the best

I've done a couple Sessions with him with you. He works well. I love him. He keeps it serious. But no, he's not like... He'll tell you what to do, but he's not like... I don't mind being told what to do because usually I'm on the performing side of it.

Right. You have to tell me what to do in the right way. And he does it in the right way. We only have a couple more days, people. Of what? Until the record comes out Le Optimist comes out August 11th Pre-save it

Come on What does that translate to in English? Le Optimist Shut the fuck up Hello, fucking hell That was actually a pretty good joke Oh, yeah That was a good one

That was a good one I like your hat though It's kind of growing on me What? The hat's kind of growing on me I really like it I feel powerful. I honestly think it looks good.

I think it should be your move. I should play sax in this hat and just rip. You look like one of those, like, 1910-inspired musicians that lived in 2023. So basically musicians, folk singers right now. Yeah. Yeah. But, like, saxophone. You should get some suspenders.

No, I don't want to go that corny. I don't want to go, like, sarsaparilla with it. Yeah. I'm going more, like, cool. Like, I don't want to go that corny. I don't want to go like Sarsaparilla with it. I'm going more like cool. Like I want to date your mom. I like that. So, guys, I hope you enjoyed everything. What are you doing? We're really proud.

I'm looking at my tour dates because we're going on tour with 10th Mountain Division. And tonight is the first night. We're in Durango, Colorado. Far away. Yeah. And then we're in Grand Junction, Colorado. Ooh. On the second.

Beautiful. The third, we're in Boulder, Colorado, opening for Grace Potter. I'm excited for that. On the Nocturnals? At the Fox Theater. No, she's just doing a... It's like a radio conference. Oh.

So it's mostly for radio people, but it is open for the public. Oh, it's a soft ticket kind of thing? Soft ticket. So if you guys want to come see me in Boulder, we're only playing 30 minutes. Oh. Then August 4th, I can't wait to go back to Steamboat Springs, Colorado. That's my favorite mountain. That's going to be fucking awesome.

I love Steamboat. Cowboys, baby. Then August 5th, we're in Telluride. Rich people? Rich people. Jazz. That show hasn't been selling so good. So if you know any rich people in Telluride, tell them to

fucking cough up some money. They show up day of a lot. Why are rich people the cheapest? They're not the cheapest, but they just know... They're frugal. They can wait because they know even if the ticket price is $10 a bar in the day of. You know what I realized? Bo, do you realize this too? Every rich town,

our merch sales are shit. Really? Because they wear nice clothes. They have like $100 t-shirts and shit. Every rich town Our merch sales are shit Really? Oh Because they wear nice clothes They have like $100 t-shirts They don't want to fucking Andy Frasca smokes I work at a bank

I can't wear this penis Yeah yeah So like the people who buy Are buying like $300-$400 For this shit I can't wear this shit Where I go to church August 6th

We're in Aspen, Colorado. That's almost sold out. Thank you, Aspen. That's the first time we're going to sell out Aspen. Great catering there. And then Friday, we fly to Wisconsin. Yuba, Wisconsin. What? Driftless Music Gardens.

Oh, wow. That sounds... For what? It's a festival. It's like everyone's on it. Leftover. It's like a jam band-y vibe? It's all kind of like's like everyone's on it. Leftover. Oh, it's like a jam band-y vibe? The jam band-y vibe. But it's all like, kind of like it's like the bluegrass jam scene. The jam grass and then you.

And then August 13th. Toss Frasco on there to sell moose. August 13th, baby. Red Rocks Amphitheater. Yeah. It was slightly stupid. I'm working on my reggae calls. Oh yeah! San Diegogae calls Oh yeah San Diego State

Oh yeah Come on out Get some skateboards, fish tacos, wear jeans Pull your socks up I'm going to rent a dog and just have it on stage Because that's a thing reggae people do Coco the tour dog It'll be called Fro Fro

They have Coco the tour dog So guys the tour dog. No, it'll be called Fro-Fro. Yeah, but they have Coco the tour dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got a figure. Yeah. So, guys, we are opening for Slightly Stupid. It's a reggae show. I know a lot of my fans might not be into reggae, but watch me play a different type of show.

I'm not going to really do a jam show. I'm going to do more... Are you? What are you going to do? Is it going to be different, Andy? It's going to be different. Is it going to be a different show? I'm going to do more. Are you not? What are you going to do? It's going to be different, Andy. It's going to be different. Is it going to be a different show? I feel like I could play the slow songs.

Yeah, you can play the slow songs for sure. You can sing your little heart out. I'm going to sing my little heart out. It'll still be light out. Yeah. I really want Slightly Stupid to take us out on tour, so I'm going to really give it my all. You do? I think it'd be cool to open for Stupid. Are they a big band? Yeah, they draw like 3,000 or 4,000 a night. Oh, Jesus, I didn't know that

They're good for this They're fucking big They're like one of the bands of that scene I can tolerate And that's how fucking I mean, Little Stranger was sucking the reggae teat And look what happened to them They're fucking popping off in that scene Yeah, they have a reggae energy to them a little bit

They do They deny their reggae energy But they're lying to themselves Guys, you're lying to yourselves That's insane Have you seen how You have a little melodic up there. That's all, you know what I mean?

Kevin is like saunter around stage. Kevin hates when I call them reggae. That's reggae. John's okay with it, because he listens to reggae. But it is reggae. It's like reggae. Kevin's like, we're not a fucking reggae band, bro. We are fucking hip-hop. We just have island beats with a white rapper. It's not reggae. Then he goes, ooyah!

Yeah, exactly. Shout out to Little Stranger. They They're doing Lollapalooza If they were listing your three genres Reggae would be in your first three Anyway So come on out Finish out that final leg of the tour strong Strong like bull

Strong like bull But yeah we're feeling good Volume.com as well Is just fucking taking care of us Shout out to Volume.com Strong like bull. Strong like bull. But yeah, we're feeling good. Volume.com as well is just fucking taking care of us. Shout out to Volume.com. Thank you for the money. Thank you for the money, Volume. You're keeping me.

You're keeping us alive. Right? I mean, if I didn't have the money, Nick couldn't have that hat. Well, I bought this with music money. So we're all in this together. So if you want to go watch Completely Relies On Me, I completely rely on Bo.

I realize how much I rely on Bo. He's my Alfred. No, he's my Robin. He's a total Alfred. I'd rather be Alfred than Robin. Yeah, Alfred's cooler. There's a dignity to Alfred. I'd rather be Alfred than Robin. Yeah, Alfred's cooler. There's a dignity to Alfred. Yeah, Alfred.

Robin's a cop. Yeah, Alfred told Batman he was a hoe. He is a hoe. Yeah, it's like, you're going to kill yourself out there. He's like one of the worst superheroes. I love Batman. He's not cool, though. He's just a rich guy with toys, really. No.

What's cool about Batman is it has the best bad guys, by far. He's like the only actual human fucking shit up there. I don't want a human. I want a fucking guy with a superpower. No, I want a human. I want... Spider-Man is like way cooler than Batman. They had superpowers. Exactly. No. Batman's just a rich kid

who's sad about his parents dying. Come on. Jesus Christ. Let the man live. He's not real, Andy. I know, but like... You're right. The bad guys, though, are incredible in Batman. Marvel bad guys are whatever.

I can't wait to see that Christopher Nolan Oppenheimer movie. I haven't loved his last couple movies. I know, me either. But I think this one's a more like set story It's not fictional Should be good But we're feeling good out here

I'm feeling good Ready to go on the road again It's about to be We're about to hit it hard here When do you leave? Tuesday? Tuesday Yeah

About to hit it hard here So I'm like fuck Here we go But I'm feeling good I'm feeling inspired New record's coming out Everyone's excited All the singles have been popping off I was like, fuck. Here we go. But I'm feeling good. I'm feeling inspired. New records coming out.

Everyone's excited. All the singles have been popping off. Shout out again to everyone who listened to Everything Bagel. How's AAA Radio going? The game is Spotify and YouTube. That's the game. The big game is getting on Sirius XM. That, oh yeah.

That's $15 a play. What? Damn. So if you get on a couple of those... See, that's the thing. You play the game. Hopefully, you get on Sirius. But that's a different game. That's not AAA radio.

Yeah. That's something else. Whatever. Anyway, go listen to my song on the radio. Do you have an FM? Do you have an AM dial? Yeah. Do you...

Why don't you blow out... Are you listening to sports talk? Blow the dust off your AM dial. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you use a dial-up modem at home? Do you have AOL? Are you still using an Yahoo email address?

Is your email address still at outlook.com? Do you think OJ is a good guy and the only thing you know about him is he's a good football player? 9-11 something something Anyway we got 10th mound division on the show Something 9-11 You feeling good? I'm feeling good today

Yeah brother My stomach hurts Do you think there are weapons of mass destruction? Do you say things like We're turning our place into a parking lot Do you say things like That we're turning our place Into a parking lot About middle Do you think polio still exists

You go way back Get your AM dial out And listen to Andy Frasco On the radio The hard way The hard way Wait what is it What's the new single

Birthday song But now everything bagel The cake is on fire The song's about my ex-girlfriend Hey guys I just have my first kiss And here's my new song about it The cake is on fire

So we're going to have a great week We're feeling good Guys if you have any pressure from your boss Do you think Bill Cosby is America's dad? We're done. We're done. That bit's over. We're over that.

We're over it now. It's fun to get one more in. I'm going to get yelled at by Brian. You're just making fun of the whole fucking thing, aren't you? That's what podcasts do. No one's ever going to... I'm never getting booked for anything. I'm never...

You are because you're good. It's over for me. I'm a dick and no one cares. I'm never. You are because you're good. It's over for me. I'm a dick and no one cares. I think it's a scam too, but whatever. Everything's a scam, dude. It's all just like

this whole thing is just a pyramid scheme. They're saying I'm not marketable. You're not marketable because what? You're like because they want

some fucking hip indie. They want this guy. They want some. Yeah, they want Ken. They want Ken. They want Folkster Ken... They want this guy. Yeah, they want Ken. They want Folkster Ken over here. I'll be walking around these roads over here.

I'm sad and rich. My dad took me to Ivy League school when I was 19. And I said, fuck you, dad. I'm joining a folk band, but you're still going to have to pay the bill for all the publicity. Check out my high cheekbones. Your wife is making you take me to this concert.

We're on fire today. Yeah. My eyes still have life in them. All right. We should probably stop before. I look directly in the camera. My music videos. I've got a song. Oh, now we're getting specific.

I can kind of sing. Okay. Anyway, enjoy. That's a breakout right there, baby. There it is. Enjoy 10th Mound Division. Imagine taking the Red Sox. They'll never win a World Series.

Well, we love the music business, don't we, bud? I love the people that make the decisions that have never touched a goddamn music instrument in their life. Yeah. I had someone say like... You're playing fantasy football, guys. You're literally just playing fantasy football, some of you.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, we're done. I just said 10th Mountain Division is to get away from this. Okay, it sounded like you were like... We're done. But it sounded weird.

We're done. No, it was a good opening. I know. Rack it. All right, guys. Enjoy 10th Mountain Division and we'll see you next week with someone who starred in SNL.

Plus, 10th Mountain Division's chill and they know us. So they won't care that we did a wacky opening for them because they're homies. Because they're homies. Well, they're going to tell me right that we did a wacky opening for them Because they're homies Well they're going to tell me right away because I'm on tour with them And they're fans of me Yeah

Alright goodbye All I really wanna do Tell you I'm lonely too Tell me baby, tell me true Summer's as long as the year Frozen over in the heart Let's go. Wow. You guys are fucking at it at 10.30 a.m., dude.

We do that weirdly a lot. 10th Mountain Division, Colorado Zone. I fucking love your band. Really am. Thank you very much, man. And as I had more of a relationship with Andrew here, Division, Colorado's own. I fucking love your band. Really am. Thank you very much, man. As I had more of a relationship with Andrew here, I fell more in love with your band because you guys are amazing

songwriters. It's funny how people classify Bluegrass when you're not even a fucking Bluegrass band. No. Put the mic close. Correct. Does that piss you off when people call you bluegrass? It's more funny, I feel like.

Yeah. It's kind of like... My brother thinks we're like Mumford & Sons because we have a mandolin player. Even though there's no mandolin in Mumford & Sons. He just doesn't listen to any folk or bluegrass music. So he's always like, yeah, they're like Mumford & Sons. Yeah, totally.

Do you think John is pigeonhole bands? Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. In Miles Davis' autobiography, I always talked about how people like to make genres for bands so they can control it. So I think it allows to put people in a frame so they can understand it better. But for the bluegrass thing, I love it for us

because we get hired for bluegrass festivals. And then when we come on stage with all of our electrified instruments, people just go bonkers because they're tired of listening to banjos and mandolins. And then we got a drum set and electric guitar. And y'all are singing like motherfuckers out here. So you guys started, Winston and MJ started the band or what? That's correct, Andy.

Oh, yeah. Winston and I here, we grew up in Vail, Colorado And we met in high school And we grew up going to a lot of concerts Tell Your Eye, Bluegrass And that was kind of like the Beginning of our like musical interest And then you go to enough concerts

And you're like I think I could do that Yeah And we started writing songs together in his mom's basement. And in CU the next year, we were pretty set on we want to be in a band. We are going to school, but this is what we want to do. And then just by putting out the feelers, we met Tyler through just like, oh, I know a kid who plays drums. And then I know a kid who plays keys. And then like, I know a kid who plays keys.

And like our friend group kind of brought everyone together. And then Andrew was the last member? Yep. You flew in, what, you moved here from Chicago or something? I was living in LA. Brief, brief stint there. It lasted six months. And then I moved here for a job randomly.

And after like living here for six months I started working up in Boulder And ran into these guys at shows The Lazy Dog and one thing So it was mostly the band started in Boulder Because you went to college Yeah 100% So through the transition of like

Going from having fun and getting drunk And partying to making it serious What did you learn about the music industry? Definitely learn from your mistakes. Oh yeah, for sure. You learn what not to do and how not to do it first. At the same time, I mean, I think a lot of our success

has come because we were able to start at CU with like a big friend base from all over the country. When everyone graduates, they spread out. That's given us a lot of opportunities. That's fucking awesome. When did you start touring hard?

It was 2016. It was right after I graduated. It was the week after my graduation. When did we in Madison House. That's what it really is. I was the last one to finish school. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. I was the last one to finish school. Yeah, you heard that good. And I finished school July 2017 and then we moved out to Denver November of 2017 and we're really hitting it by then. So when was the...

Because you guys were jamming before, right? Oh, yeah. I joined the band in 2014. Summer camp? Yeah. We did one of those summer camp on the road competitions, and then we won the Boulder one, and we're invited to the 2016 festival and that was the

first time we had a show out of state where we were like let's try to get other shows around that and it was like you know 10 shows over like a month but we had a blast yeah you know so who were you listening to what were you what was inspiring you in those beginning years like what type of music were you listening to well who'd you want to be who'd you want to emulate what was all that stuff do you mean like beginning years of playing music yeah right like in the beginning years of the band like what did you what was your mission beginning years of the band i would say definitely uh leftover salmon yonder mountain string band uh string cheese incident those were like the bands that i was seeing the most live and like we always wanted to bring together these like different

elements like in string cheese nur she plays the acoustic guitar kang plays electric mandolin i was like let's kind of like flip-flop that because i love playing acoustic guitar but i've always wanted to play electric more than winston has his acoustic but he also has a rano mandolin which is the same build as kang's and like just trying to bring together these different elements like Salmon with like the crank neck speed plus rock elements like because that's like I love ACDC but I also like Bill Monroe yeah and I was getting to know all those different bands at the time that's fucking badass so I was gonna say like when I joined the band I really wasn't like

too much into jam bands or even like where I grew up in New England so like Bluegrass didn't really exist out there. So I kind of, through these guys, was introduced to it. It was kind of fresh in my mind and stuff, so I kind of was able to experience it for the first time through these dudes, so it kind of was a nice experience

with that. It was nice that you said yonder and leftover. I mean, Vince is such a staple for understanding beautiful lyrics and throwing a show. And then on the other side of it, I mean, it seems like Jeff Austin is a big, important influence in your guys' band.

And hearing Burning Heart, is that dedicated to Jeff Austin? It feels like it's about his life a little bit. Yeah, it was something I wrote a few weeks after he passed. And Jeff was the reason I picked up the mandolin. And I think it was one of the first shows I ever saw was Red Rocks, I don't know, 2012, 2010. What did you see in him that was so important in the growth of your musical career?

Just the way that he would open up to the fans on stage. There was no wall in between him and the fans and his passion towards the music. And that definitely drove us for a while with the Bluegrass scene. And that might be a big reason why people call us the Bluegrass band is it's kind of our roots a little bit right yeah it's all we've talked about yeah yeah

i think also like the the jeff austin's like he was just so unabashedly himself on stage and for like a young guy like myself it's just like oh like i don't have to be like a trained musician to do this like i could just try things and maybe something will happen if I'm myself. What similarities did you see in the passing of Jeff Austin versus the passing of your father when you were 15? Well, really not much. I mean, other than it's just like a huge death of a mentor. We were lucky enough to open for jeff a few times and he

was always so cool and badass when we even just like a young band he didn't really have to spend time with us and he did but i didn't really know him that well so really the biggest similarity is just someone that you really look up to losing them at a young age it it was similar in that way. And it helped me to go back and revisit my dad's death and open up about that more. Because when I was younger, I didn't really understand it quite as much. Yeah. Just shut it off.

Yeah, like 15, being 15 and having your dad die while you're just learning about hormones and cumming and the whole nine. I had a few years there. Oh, let's go. I'll clap to that. Let's go. My man's sticking at 13. No, but like,

I haven't dealt with a death like that in a family. So I'm very fascinating with how you dealt with your father's death during high school. Like, what, 15? You're 10th grade, right? Were you a rebel?

I think I was a sophomore in high school. Yeah, 10th grade. You know, I don't know. It was interesting because my dad was sick my whole life. He grew up with MS. And I didn't really live with him since I was like five years old, I think. Did your parents get divorced? Yeah, they got divorced, but it was more a medical thing.

We just couldn't really take care of him. My mom with three young boys and my dad being in a wheelchair, having MS. So he had to move into an assisted living facility in Louisville. So he had to move into an assisted living facility in Louisville. So just my relationship with him was, you know, I didn't really even realize that he was sick. It was just so normal to me as a young kid. Isn't that wild? Like when you've just something you just grow into,

not knowing that that's fucking very rare to happen. It is. And so I just didn't really... It took me a long time to feel the loss because he was gone a lot. Not because he wanted to. He wanted to live with us. Were you guys homies when you were 15?

Yeah, we knew each other for sure um grew up like around each other but then our friends that we would go to concerts with and stuff they all like graduated and stuff and then it was kind of like we were the ones left like you want you want to hang out yeah but mj he was with me on the year anniversary of my dad's death and we went out to where i spread my dad's ashes on Vail Mountain We went skiing Yep Lit some candles

Lit some candles It was a pretty fucking crazy experience Was he proud of your musical journey? Or were you too young? Well, yeah That was what I probably had just picked up the mandolin Around the year that he passed Or the year before that, right?

It's fucking heavy. So I'm just, yeah, it's pretty wild. MS is an insane disease because you just start deteriorating right in front of your eyes. And if you don't understand, I had a basketball coach who had MS and it just, it was, it was heartbreaking to me, but I didn't understand it. So like, as you grow older, what have you learned about how you take advantage of life as now you're older, grown ass men. Now, do you guys try to take advantage of life as much as you can go on tour,

take everything you can fucking play as much as you can what have you learned about life since the passing of your dad's death well uh that was always my dad's motto you know was just have no regrets yeah and i mean we we've been lucky to stay very busy throughout covid and everything so i'd say yeah i think we're trying to take everything we can in. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. It's fucking amazing. All right, we talked about death. Now let's talk about addiction. Andrew.

How'd you know? No, no, no. But I think it's beautiful. I don't know. Death is... I'm so fascinated with death lately. Maybe just because I'm getting older. Do you guys think about death more than you ever have? All the time.

What have you learned about death? It's a formid-ass interview. I'm sorry. Well, it's hard to even answer. We don't know anything. We don't know anything about it. It just brings up the finite nature of life like what meaning like we will all want to like have a sense of meaning or like that we live our lives for like a purpose and then it kind of brings up

that question of what is the purpose do i have a purpose and then when people do experience loss and things of that nature, you feel the wake of that, somebody being absent. We sometimes can think, oh, it wouldn't matter if I wasn't here. But then when you see someone actually leave, you see so many lives just shattered by that. So that's a really interesting thing. And it's crazy because we don't have an answer but we can just like try to make something meaningful out of life and kindness yeah that's a

thing and that's the beauty of what i've learned about music is is how kind music can be to the souls of not only us because we're we're doing it for a reason we're not making money doing it we're doing it because it's important. And to the fans who are, you're playing these vulnerable songs. I mean, your songs are very vulnerable. Who writes most of the lyrics? Pretty spread out. Yeah?

Typically, if the person is singing it, that's their original. It's fucking badass. Do you guys like the band? Like, you pick songs, everyone sings them. So how do you, what's the recording process like? Do you guys all say, I get two songs, you get two songs, or best song wins?

Right now, I think we're throwing everything in the hat. I think there's no ego amongst us, so we're just going to pick the best. I love it. What works together. Any songs you regret not putting on a record? Spill the Beacons, boys.

Campbell? No, I don't think so. We'll get there. I love it. You guys seem like you're still... How many years? It's 2015, so it's 8 years in a band? I think I joined in 2017.

It depends when we start. When it was a five-piece or when Cooney joined, I don't know. I'd say around 2016 when we got those first out-of-state gigs, it was more than just partying at college, getting drunk when we started

taking things a little more seriously. We started realizing, I want to say the first time we headlined the fox theater yeah which was our senior year of college i think we came fucking 50 tickets short of selling it out and fucking badass dude senior year's almost done out the fox and uh that was i think we peaked yeah but no i think that was the first moment when i was like oh fuck like fuck. We're about to graduate. We could actually do this and make it work. Isn't it amazing? So I'd say, what, 2016?

How many years is that? Seven or eight years? Isn't it amazing? One show can just build that enough confidence to take this shit on the road and really pop it off. I've had that feeling many times. This is going to be the one. Everything's going to be different after that.

Then you wake up the next day and it's like, I'm still me. I still got to do stuff. I'm still sleeping in the van night. Yeah, it's like we did the... We headlined the... In Philadelphia. We headlined Cervantes'

Masterpiece Ballroom this year for the first time. And it was like, you know, over a thousand people there as well. And we're like, we made it. We did. This is sick. And then we played Cheyenne, Wyoming. And there was like six people.

Let's say, yeah. I was like, okay, we still got some work to do. Those people love that show. Oh, dude. Super cool venue. There was more people in the crowd than on stage. It's so funny how everyone you don't see

you see the growing pains of a band but everyone just sees like the great stuff not the stuff that makes you guys more like brothers do you have any stories

that you felt that you your brotherhood grew as a band through a show through a fucking

snowstorm. Oh, yeah. Dorothy? Yeah, what do you got? The bus breaking down in Baton Rouge area. Oh, my God. Who wants to tell that story? I don't know.

Okay. We were driving from Houston to Baton Rouge, and two weeks prior, a big hurricane hit South Texas. So some of the water got into some of the gas lines of all the gas stations. A big hurricane hit South Texas. So some of the water got into some of the gas lines of all the gas stations. So we filled up the bus. We're making our way to Baton Rouge on Interstate 10, which if you've driven, you know it's just a bridge over a bayou. There's no shoulder or anything.

So our bus starts just acting weird, and it starts decelerating and accelerating, decelerating, accelerating. We're like, what the fuck is going on? What is this, a school bus? A van? We had a modified short bus for a while. Her name was Dorothy. She was beautiful. She was a wonderful, wonderful bus. Let's clap. Rest in peace, Dorothy. So the bus is

acting up as we're going down Interstate 10. We're like, fuck, all of a sudden it stops. And you know, there's 18 wheelers going 80 miles per hour right next to us um there it wasn't a cop it was like a highway patrolman kind of deal he put on his lights and came behind us and he came up to the door he's like what the fuck is up like what are you guys doing we just told him the bus isn't the bus isn't working we don't know what's going on he's like all right just give it another go we well he's like instead of being

like can i help you he's like you gotta get the fuck out of here yeah it wasn't like i can i can't tell you anything but like you gotta go somewhere yeah exactly like and there's you know like he said the car's zooming by it was wild luckily we we try to turn it over it turns over thank god oh i love this and uh we're driving down we pull off at the first exit. Oh, Dorothy. That was at Brooks. Yeah, at the Apple Orchard. Rest in peace, baby girl.

And we pull off on this little exit in this little town called Butlerow. And it's just a little parking lot. And we're like, fuck. We're not mechanics. We don't know how to fix a bus. And so there's this weird little lonely road. And we're like, all right, we're just going to go up and down this road and see if we can figure it out so we go down and we see a gas station at the end and we drive

into the gas station we roll open the window and we're like hey do you guys know how to work diesel and these are some proper Bayou boys and they're like oh we know how to do diesel so the dude oh yep six generations

of a family all within 40 years of itself probably not but it's in my head he was smoking he was smoking a red while working

under the car no no no so we pop it open and he goes this is a diesel right we're like yeah and he's like good I can smoke my reds

and he fucking popped a cigarette in his mouth and he's like you know jacking things up we spent like three or four hours

in this little fucking gas station in Pueblo and it was all day i mean they they put ether in the air conditioner or in the yeah in the air conditioner which made the engine like explode and everything we did all these things and like it would have been like a few hundred dollars worth of work we gave them like you know like a couple t-shirts and like smoked a bowl with them i gave them some tickets to the show a couple years later we're

actually going right down the same highway and we're like we got to I gave them some tickets to the show. A couple years later, we were actually going right down the same highway and we were like, we got to go pay our respects, say hi to the people at the gas station. And we drove down and the gas station was out of business. They're completely gone. So if that family is there, we want to hang out. Let's go. Let's say hi to the podcast.

I think the big part about that though was that that was the first time we were going out on the road for like eight weeks, and that was like the third show in. So if we had not been helped by those people, we probably would have gone home and perhaps given up. I don't know. Isn't it amazing when you need help, the universe is on your back, on your side?

Oh, totally. And not your back, on your side. And not only that, but we had to get to a gig. Like, he fixed this up. He's like, all right, you get on your way. He's like, you know, if you want to skip this gig, I'll install an air conditioner in that bus for you for free. And we were like, we're like, boys, this might be worth it. We'll be an hour late. Let's get this thing popping.

I think we all were like I think he stole this They like gave us a couple six packs From the gas station and smoked a joint with us We're like you guys are the best people ever Louisiana there's something special about Louisiana The music the people It's just so proper I wanted that

Air conditioning How do you find the beauty in this life without thinking about the stress of being broke or stress of being you know how do you keep your mind state eye on the prize I think the only way

that I'm able to do it is just to be able to separate it for just any amount of time. If you can just give yourself 30 minutes a day to just not think about your stresses, I mean, maybe that's easier said than done, or maybe it's the other 11 and a half hours will overcome that.

But give yourself some time in a day to just be easy on yourself. Yeah, I think it's like there's a level of, it's a give and a take. Anything you do in life, any life that's worth living is going to be hard. You just recognize there are difficult things.

Money's tight or you're tired or you got to drive overnight or stuff like that. But at the end of the day, we get a chance to do something that a lot of people wish they could do even at any level. So it's recognizing the gift you have at this life, but then also allowing yourself to be like,

yeah, it is tough. Not trying to lie to yourself. Not being like, oh, tough it up or whatever. You get to be a musician like you shouldn't complain it's like allow yourself to accept the stress and kind of process it and deal with it i think that's a big part of it yeah what do you what do you think andrew well yeah like stress is like unavoidable right there's gonna be things that are i always just try to think about things i can control versus what i can't control and that's like my that's what keeps me in check, I feel like, for myself.

Yeah, and if you quit, what the fuck are y'all going to do? You guys are fucking musicians. You're songwriters. I ain't got no place else to go. I got nowhere to go, do we? I need this shit. What the fuck else are you going to do? Yeah, you know, it's like, this is why we do it.

This is why we hit the road hard. And this is why I low-key love why your band's called 10th Mountain Division. Weren't they like mountain warfare? They were a volunteer. You had to volunteer, but you still had to pass a test.

They were the most badass soldiers in World War II. It's fucking awesome. During the draft, there was the only military division you couldn't be drafted to. They were the most badass soldiers in World War II. It's fucking awesome. The draft. It was the only military division you couldn't be drafted to because you had to know how to ski or climb. Yeah. It's fucking... The gear was horrible.

They were using pieces of fence. Yeah, they trained outside of where Winston and I grew up. Basically, everything you need to live and survive, plus ski and train to fight Nazis on your skis, that's pretty badass. I'm going to clap to that. That's fucking nuts. You're doing the same shit, boys.

Instead of fighting Nazis, you're hoping Southern people will fix your van. Goes around, comes around. I love it. I'm so curious about, you guys grew up in Vail? Yeah. So tell me about this transition between, was it always like wealthy, richy,

or was it really like a cool mountain town? I mean, Vail's cool now. So originally in 1963, it was just farmers and ranchers. Tony Seibert and Earl Eaton, two members of the original 10th Mountain Division, were on a training what's it called?

Survey. Mission, there you go. Training mission, training survey. And they found themselves at the very top of Vail Mountain. And then for a year, they bought a little cabin at the base of Vail and they called it the Transmontane Gun Club. And it was a little hunting club. They got their friends together and bought enough money for, or until they got enough

money for a chairlift. And that's when they made the first lift. So for a while there, I think, when did it go public? It didn't used to be so yuppie. Yeah. I think, yeah, the I-70 thing was really big. I think the phenomena of ski popularity in the 80s with all the films and stuff just attracted a lot of money to it.

For me personally, my growing up experience there, I moved there when I was six. I was born in Pittsburgh. But I went through K-12 there. That's a great fucking city too. I love Pittsburgh. Underrated place. Yeah, and it's so beautiful. When you pop out of the tunnel, it's like, bam, Pittsburgh.

That's wild. But for me, minus the season and when there's a bunch of people in town like it did have small town vibes i knew like everyone knows somebody from your family through sports and stuff like our graduating class was like 150 kids so it was pretty uh intimate and on top of that like it was a big party environment growing up from an early age. So a lot of darkness as far as that from an early age.

I mean, let's just be honest. The partying thing, it just gets to a point and we were introduced to some stuff early on. Like what? Like coke? Acid? What? All of the above. Did it ever take control of you like addiction

uh me personally yeah i'm that's something i'm dealing with uh i took a little hiatus from the band this summer and went what happened treatment oh you went to rehab yeah oh great yeah do you feel better what'd you learn in rehab well i mean uh the first thing i know is that I don't know anything. Let's go. I'll clap to that. Let's go. Yeah, I mean, I think learning all these things at an early age, it was something, like, I always knew I drank differently than other people, and I'd tried

to quit to varying degrees of success for like a year and a half, and then starting again know, starting again, like a month here, a month there. And eventually it just became continuous to where it was like physically debilitating. And then, yeah, it was like time to go. Were you an asshole on the road? Because you were just, I mean. That's for a up to you.

He was struggling. I don't think he was an asshole. I think I'm more self-deprecating. I think that chord's fucked up. There you go. Were you in? Yeah, were you in? He was struggling.

He wasn't an asshole. But we all know he's going through stuff. I just think I could have been a better version of myself. And I enjoy... Because I've been a music fan my whole life. That's my drug of choice. And at a point, your creativity gets stifled when you use to that level.

And I don't want that personally because it comes organically. I don't need it from something else. Yeah, it's crazy. Sometimes we just get off the rail a little bit. But if you have brothers who are going to help you get you back on the rail, then that's why you're here.

That's the best thing about being in a band. You're not doing this alone. Yeah, exactly. And going back to your question earlier, just about what we've learned through this process, it's not really one thing that we've learned, but just about the years that we've been able to stick it out.

We've overcome a lot of stuff, and we're still together. It's fucking awesome, man. anyone else have addiction problems I thought Andrew would be the one being so quiet maybe not yet addressed I guess I honestly I honestly do I'm like addicted to food for sure that is a stress thing that I turn to

and I mean you know I'm a big guy like that's something that I really but you're fucking hot dude you're a hot guy I haven't figured out how to channel that yet. Yeah, let's get some claps. Come on. Andy, you're hot. Oh, shucks.

I see you rolling in there. I see you walking. Whenever you walk into the room, you do a little hair flip. It's just in my face. It's so annoying. No, we know what you're doing, big guy. That's the only reason your hair's cut like that.

Honestly, thinking about that, walking out of the grocery store today, I was like, the wind hit at the perfect time, and I was like, man, why isn't somebody videotaping me? Maybe it's Maybelline Please, if you're out there Cooney's single, alright? Oh yeah, Cooney

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In Pittsburgh Where are you two from? I grew up in Massachusetts Oh nice I grew up in Massachusetts. Oh, nice. I grew up on Cape Cod, yeah. Oh, shit. You like Cape Cod? Love it.

Very proud to be from... Yeah, Tyler's from Falmouth. Yeah, I'm from Falmouth. Really? Oh, yeah. I love... I'm very proud to be from there. Yeah.

It's like... It's just a cool place to be from. I think it's one of the most beautiful places on earth. Yeah. Great people. Yeah. G-Love lives there now. I used to play a lot on the Cape, and we played N most beautiful places on earth. Yeah. Great people. Yeah. G-Love lives there now. I used to play a lot on the Cape and we played Nantucket a lot.

Yeah. Like the chicken box. Chicken box. Yeah. And it's just the people there, they're going to tell you exactly how they fucking feel, even if you like it or not. But they're all so sweet. You know, once they trust you, then it's cool.

Is that a New England thing? Yes. I think it is. All of New England. I think it is. All of New England? I think it is. You're a piece of shit. You want to hang out? I'm a piece of shit.

You're a piece of shit. We could be a piece of shit together. It's like they're not going to... If they can say it in five words, they're going to use four. Irreficient. Yeah. I mean, it was definitely... I used to compare living in New England and living in Colorado

where like living in Colorado, you see a guy on the street and you're like, I don't know that guy. So I don't really have a reason to not trust him. Right. If you're from Massachusetts, you're like, who the fuck is this guy? So why'd you decide to move to Colorado? I went to Boulder for school. I wanted to, my dad was really, and again, really for a good reason,

was like insistent on like, you know, you're going to college, like you might as well go as far as you can, like newest environment, like really like challenge yourself. And he had visited Boulder when he was in college and he was like, you're going to love it. And so we went out, visited,

got accepted and went to school there. And it was pretty wild. Like I, you know, my hometown was the population of the undergrad. Holy shit. Yeah. So I didn't know anyone. So it was kind of a crazy, like, who am I moment.

Like an identity crisis. Not really, but you know what I mean. And I lost my mind. Why do you think you lost your mind? Oh, no, I was kidding. Don't tell me that. I'll go through it, dog. No, it's just like it was weird being in such a small town

and then being not surrounded. Because you really do define yourself by your surroundings and the people you're with. Yeah, totally. And then when that's wiped clean, you're kind of like, okay, who am I? Which was a really good thing to go through at that age, kind of find yourself.

And then it was like, I joined the basketball band. I was in the band program for a little, and through that I met these guys and totally changed my life. Walking the fucking line. Oh, yeah, yeah. Old guy out. You walked on?

To the basketball band, not the team. We'll take that. We'll take that as a win. That's a W. That's a W. So the worst part was there's a bunch of things you have to do

as the drummer like cues for like personal fouls and technical fouls like certain like chants that you lead but I don't know

the rules of basketball so they would just be like you have to do the thing I'm like is it a personal or a technical I don't know and then like

there's a random like a tuba player would reach over the drumstick and just do the thing I was like, there's a random, like a tuba player would reach over the drumstick and just do the thing. I was like, I gotta get a new job. Yeah.

Were you guys, were you a sports guy or no? No, I grew up in like a pretty, uh, pretty sports heavy family. My dad worked in sports his entire life. So I was like surrounded by it.

So, so you're like through osmosis. I know a lot, but I, there's only so far I can go with the conversation. I'm going to be a musician. Yeah. Fuck you,

dad. I'm going to play the drums. No, he was the reason. I mean, he was a drummer. He was like, he bought me my first drum set.

He would show me like the who live at leads when I was growing up, which like much to these guys should grin. I think I still play that loud, but yeah, he was a, he's my parents, like the biggest supporters of me playing music i love it yeah god you guys this is i love getting to know you guys what about you what about you where you

from so i grew up in boulder okay cool another colorado uh-huh yeah grew up in boulder um tell them about singapore though yeah yeah um so my my family they're all a bunch of new yorkers but my mom and dad uh wanted their kids to grow up around the world my dad was working for Citibank at the time doing finance and working in tech for them so he got an offer in Singapore in their Citibank branch

out there when my mom was a few months pregnant with me so I was actually born in Singapore lived there for five years then moved to Holland in a little town

called Heemstede lived there for two years what part of Holland is that north or south? that's north or south west of's north or southwest of Amsterdam. It's actually funny because I've met a bunch of

southwest. Near Rotterdam? I was pre-K in kindergarten. I was just there for the ride. You could have looked at a map a couple times. Where's the globe? We got the globe here. 30 seconds, go.

In first grade, I moved to San Diego. I live in a town called Poway, we got the globe here. 30 seconds, go. And then in first grade, I moved to San Diego. I live in a town called Poway, just outside of San Diego. And then in fourth grade, I moved to Boulder and that's where my parents split up, so I kind of got stuck in Boulder. Was it hard to move around and have friends?

At the time, I was so young and my family were such socialites that it was great. We'd be in San Diego and my friends from Heimstädte would fly out to San Diego and we'd have a great time and stuff. That's cool. By the time I moved to Boulder,

I was in fourth grade. To this day, I still have some of the closest friends I had. You're still developing your brain, fourth grade, so you're not feeling like, fuck you dad for making me. I was an easy kid. I was just enjoying it.

How was your older brother? Was he like, fuck you dad? Cooper might have been a bit different. He's seven years older than me, so he was like a proper teenager. So he was moving a lot. But I think that kind of influenced his moves a lot later in his life life When he graduated from CU

He moved out to Sydney And was just partying in Sydney for a couple years And was in London for a couple years And now he's in New York City And he's just all over the place God damn it Last but not least I love it, last but not least

My boy I'm from the suburbs I'm from Chicago area. Yeah, but what part? I grew up in Arlington Heights. I went to high school in Arlington Heights. Really? Yeah.

St. Viter. Oh, so it wasn't, is that South Chicago? North side. North side. Jack. It's where the Bears are putting their new stadium. Oh, cool. Your parents still live out there?

They live nearby in Park park ridge but they lived in the city for a while what were you doing before 2017 before 2017 well i lived in like my college town for a while after i graduated where uh bloomington indiana oh you almost went there really dude so much fun is that the bluebird that big venue yeah yep great place oh man um yeah i got i was like in a band and we were doing pretty decent for a 21, 22 year old. Just chilling out there.

Once it got too small, I was like, I'm going to move big and go to LA. Ran out of money and ruined my credit. LA's fucked up. Why did you decide LA? It was fun. I just had some friends out there that really motivated me to pursue music. They convinced me Why did you decide LA? It was fun, but like, well, I just had some friends out there that were like, it really motivated me to like pursue music. They were like kind of convinced me like it's worth it, you know?

And he was like, I don't know, kind of doing some bigger things as a producer, like getting songwriting or not, like producing whatever commercials and Nickelodeon shit or whatever. Just like write songs with me. We tried it for a while. I just ran out of money because I had to work. I couldn't do a 3 a.m. session on a Tuesday. I had to go chop fruit

for all the animators at Disney. Sorry, it worked out best for all of us. That's what I was going to say. You found a gem in this dude. Really, his brain is insanely amazing. I don't think people on the podcast know, but Andrew and I

used one of Andrew's songs. Yeah, thanks for taking that. I love that song. Oh, sorry, dude. I love that song. He said, it's funny, like, I tried to give it to Jack Johnson, but I guess you'll do. I'm like, this guy's going to be my friend forever. This guy's going to be my friend forever. I love you, do. I was like, this guy's going to be my friend forever.

This guy's going to be my friend forever. I love you, bro. Good man. We all agree. His brain is pretty awesome. It's sick to be in a band with him. Yeah. It's beautiful. And so when you saw him move to Denver, what was the love like?

Because you guys were all forced kicking it. You guys were moving. It was love at first sight. We told each other later. We told each other later. He said, look at this fucking hippie kid. And I said, look at this L.A. yuppie. I was like rocking, you know, all black.

He had the shaved heads. And the swoop hair. Shaved sides of his head, L.A. cut. It was a sweater. It was a sweater. His eyes out. But he said, because I had a business card, he took me seriously. He asked me to sing backups or whatever.

Or sing vocals for one of the things. Wasn't that from the open jam at Lazy Dog? I was playing a gig. I was playing a gig, yeah. With Jaden Carlson. Wow. Who is a ski lift operator now. I just saw.

That's dope. Look at him now. From LA yuppie to mountain man, dude. This is amazing. It was always in me, right? I know. The chest hair and the... This is amazing.

This was actually something I wanted to ask you leading up to coming in today. Just because for me, my identity is not so married with the Andy Frasco that we know and love on stage, partying with the audience and stuff. Is there a day where I'm like, I don't want to drink today, but I have to because I'm throwing a party for people? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Every fucking day. Is that a challenge? Is that more of a challenge? Or is there just like, I'm going to ramp up the antics so I don't have to Drink I think I got a little better at It's all about changing the narrative That was my goal the last three years

I want people to know me For my songs and not just because I do the fucking horror Or crowd surf into the crowd So I've been drinking less I've been drinking a lot less than I used to Bo's been with me for three years I feel like I've been drinking less I used to been drinking a lot less than I used to. Bo's been with me for three years. I feel like I've been drinking less. I used to, like, drink the whole bottle, James,

and now I'm a quarter. I just, it's not there for me anymore. I just, I don't know. I think as we get older, we realize what we want. And, you know, I was at the fault where I started music when I was 19 or 20, so I had to play catch-up because I had all these amazing musicians, Sean Eccles, all these guys, and I just felt like the only thing I knew I was really good at

was just being a show pony and ring-leaning. And then that shit just got me sad because I really care about music. So as we get older, just read your body, and if your body. And if your body is telling you not to fucking drink or not to have one night stands or not do cocaine, just fucking listen to it. Because if we're just getting older and if we're afraid to listen to our body, then who are we going to listen to?

If we can't love ourselves, any love that comes into our world, we're not going to fucking see it because we don't love ourselves. I think that's been one of the biggest lessons for me, especially just like that extreme honesty with yourself and then not being scared to say that or speak it out when it might be non-agreeable, but like, hey, this is what I need today. And for me, especially on days like today where it's a show,

I just want to do whatever I can throughout the day so that when I walk on stage, I'm like as much of 100% I can be. It's not going to be every day. It's not going to be perfect, but I want to try. Yeah, our job is so weird because we prepare for 90 minutes of work the whole day. We drive 10 hours. We do all this bullshit to prepare for this 90 minutes.

And if we're not in it, I don't know how you guys are, but when I feel I'm not present in the show day or the music, I'm like, why am I doing this? So we need to stay present and figure out what we love and why we're doing it

and not waste time. Because like you said, you guys are busting your ass just to do these 90 minutes. I just heard you're going on tour with pigeons. It's fucking awesome. Thank you. Yeah. Stoked. Tour.

Whatever. Whatever. We're going on a fucking tour. I don't know. Fuck it. We're going on tour with pigeons. We're going on tour with pigeons. Everybody come out.

Come out and see us No seriously We immediately just start cutting ourselves down Wait wait wait It's hard to have no ego But then you gotta pump yourself up a little bit I know that's the fucked up part What's the difference between ego and confidence

It's a fine line Or in like your job We're all promoters basically. Right. And we feel like shit, I don't know how you feel, but I feel fucking dumb when I'm promoting myself all day.

You know, I just feel like I'm a narcissist, but that's just the job we have to do, right? Yeah. So fucking be pumped up about this shit. Fucking big deal.

Fuck yeah, we're opening for fucking big. Let's go. Let's go. Let's fucking go. Thousand people, thousand people. Fucking big deal. Fuck yeah, we're opening for fucking pity. Let's go. Let's go. Let's fucking go. Thousand people is thousand people. Doesn't matter.

Exactly. Just go out there and fucking put your dicks out there and go give them hell. Even if it's for ten people, even if it's for a thousand people. I feel like Cooney's

got a big dong. Does he have a big dong? Let's find out. Andrew Cooney. Are you familiar with the feeling of disappointment? Maybe like, Let's find out Andrew Cooney Are you familiar With the feeling Of disappointment Yeah

Maybe like Speaking I think maybe The difference is The ego Is slapping your dick On the table And then humility

Is then Taking the input Asking if you want to Yeah like You know Is this going to work For you If not

Okay You know Did any of you guys Have like I don't know If I get this analogy Well thanks for you? If not, okay. I don't know if I get this analogy. I work at Arby's. Well, thanks for being on the show, guys.

I know you guys got to get out there. I got two more questions. If that's cool. You got time a little more time? What time? We're chilling. First question is, where do you see, what is the dream for this band?

Like, where do you want to take this thing? Like, what do you want to do? You want to tour 200 shows a year? You want to write great records? You want to get a single? Like, what's your dream for this? There's a lot of steps on the ladder, for sure, you know? Yeah.

I mean, the ultimate dream is just to be able to make a living. Like, we're all working side jobs right now. Yeah, totally. It would be nice to not have to have that side job and yeah it's fucked up um or as more as make it what i want it to be it's like you know i don't want to necessarily just do music i like other things too but working for somebody else you know yeah i don't want to work for anybody but it's it's like you said it can't all be about that you know we we're still enjoying the the process of it yeah yeah i want to sustain my life on my own

like every single we put out every everything you just mentioned like it's all like another metal on the mantle or whatever you know yeah i think for me and like um not just financial but just fulfillment in life like when i tear down that facade between me and what i'm saying to people in a song if i can be completely honest in that and feel that I'm giving a little bit of myself away and that that is being received, that fulfillment is something that... We, at practice yesterday, worked on one of my new songs and just getting it from out of here into, whoa, we're playing this song, and it sounds like the way it did in my head. That is an unbelievable feeling to me. Yeah. And intention, right?

We're doing this with intention. And I think as far as success goes, there's plenty of people who play huge arena shows every night, and they're unhappy. Right. So it's like whatever we can do to have success and still be at peace and be happy people. That's the dream for me.

It's like that fine line because you can have all the success, but there's so many stories of people who have it all and they're not happy. And so it's like if you are able to find success and still be the best version of yourself, I think that's the most successful you can be. It's like going back to what y'all said earlier. This show

is going to break us. It's going to make us. Then you wake up from that amazing show and you're like, oh shit, I'm still sad. It's like, fuck. No, no. I think we got to get rid of expectations. We got to be people. Yeah, we just got to like, no. I think we got to get rid of expectations. We got to be people. Yeah, we just got to like, okay.

Or just unrealistic ones. Be like, just understand that tomorrow comes. And this too shall pass. Both good and bad things. Yeah, and that's why I want to talk about the death of your father. Because I know it's a fucking hard thing to deal with

when you're 15. Especially, I didn't know about the MS thing and that's probably even harder to deal with seeing him go need help and stuff so like every day is a new day and we fucking keep fighting to try to find happiness and I think that's the most important right

it was a difficult thing but it changed me for the better you know as much as I would love to talk to my dad again, I wouldn't change it. You think he'd be proud of you? It's an important thing to talk about. Yeah, I do.

I do think he'd be proud of me. Just earlier this year, I started serving on the board of his nonprofit, Can Do MS. I'm going to cry. Thank you. I'm the last of my three brothers to cry. Thank you. I'm the last of my three brothers to just join the board

and I'm really proud. I'm still just getting my toes wet. But really fortunate to be able to work with them and if anyone listening has a friend with MS or has MS or has questions, reach out.

I could love to put you in touch with some very good resources. Go put the website. Give them the website. Okay. CanDoMS. I don't know what the dot is.

Dotcom. You figure it out. We just updated the website. Just Google CanDoMS. It'll pop right up. We're popping it up right now.

CanDoMS. All right popping it up right now. Can Do MS. All right. I should know this. Booking hotel rooms. You get hotel rooms? What the hell? We're moving up. I want a bus, but they're $2,500 a month. Can Do MS is just condoms.com.

Yeah. Oh, my God. It's not a.com. Yeah, it spells condoms. Oh, and I see it a dot com No it's We'll find it You clearly don't know how to spell C-A-N-D-O Get yourself some

Get yourself some Get yourself some Well guys It's been a pleasure, thanks for being here Thanks for being vulnerable Don't forget to watch the music video Oh yeah, you watch the music video. Oh, yeah.

You have a music video for Burning Heart, right? Yes. Yeah. Brand new music video. Shout out our very good buddy, Chase Taylor, animated it. Cool. Beautiful. It's a beautiful music video about my experience with death, Jeff.

Death, Jeff. Wow, that was hard to say. Jeff's death. Yeah. And so, yeah, go check it it out Just put it out two days ago And come see us on tour We're playing all around Colorado And I'd like to say thanks for keeping Jeff's name

Good You know It's like as time goes on we forget about these Such important songwriters In our life like Colonel Bruce Jeff Austin, many more. Hopefully John Prine doesn't get

not remembered. The songwriters get older with their deaths. I just want to say thanks for keeping Jeff because I know how important he is to a lot of people. It's beautiful, man. Much love to Jeff and the Austin family.

He's listening. Thank you, Andy. Appreciate you. Have fun out there. I got one last question and then how I end the show. When it's all said and done, what does 10th Mound Division want to be remembered by? That's the question. Get the fuck out of here, boys.

That could have been a more perfect time. Time has come. What do you guys want to be remembered by? The band as a whole. Yeah. I don't know. I really liked what MJ said about just being able to be honest and put out how we feel about things.

And if that can connect, I think that's... Authenticity. Yeah. Yeah, I think... Authenticity is the goal. Being a voice of, you know just like yeah just um the the non-fear like i don't want to live my life in fear from like addictions from relationships or anything and if i can relate my issues with that through a song and make someone feel less alone that would be my vision

of success well like the way that those Jeff Austens made me feel less alone I want to do that for someone else. Well, go give them hell boys. Go fuck them up. Wear condoms. Andrew, you're getting hotter and hotter by the day. I need you to wear condoms. We can't have little Andrews everywhere.

We need one woman. Wouldn't be that bad. I'm a pretty good guy. Guys, thanks for being on the show. Have fun in't be that bad. I'm a pretty good guy. Yeah. Yeah. Guys, thanks for being on the show. Have fun in Buena Vista. Thank you. Thank you.

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