Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 232: Maddy O'Neal - A Secret Dreams Festival Episode

Episode Date: August 15, 2023

Andy's new album is out! Stream L'Optimist now... This coming weekend ~ Aug 18th ~ Andy and the boys will be playing Secret Dreams fest in Legend Valley, OH! Come for the music. Stay for the gigantic dinosaur. Also: mysterious emails with wild accusations from a real-life Park City Karen: read live for your listening pleasure! And on the Interview Hour we got our dear friend, electronic DJ & catalyzing force in the Universe: Maddy O'Neal!  From existential dread & imposter syndrom, to the feeling of finally achieving success and seeing your enemies suffer like pigs in hell: Maddy & Andy get into it on these topics, and more. You too can follow all things Maddy online Watch this episode streaming now!! Psyched to partner up with our buddies at Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. Call, leave a message, and tell us how you really feel: [phone]  Check out our new single, You Do You streaming on Spotify and Apple Music now! And while you're at it, give a big middle finger to the bigots in your life Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out our good friends that help us unwind and sleep easy while on the road and at home: dialedingummies.com Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Marina Ahri Findling

Hey Andy, this is Jessica. You gave my friend your number after your show. I don't know if you remember my friend Michelle. Anyways, she's not interested, but I am, and I wanted to call you you so I got your number from her and I think you should call me I know that you know Michelle and I are a little different we don't look alike or anything like that but I'm a really good time so

give me a call next time you're in town Andy this is Noah long story short you gave my girlfriend Michelle your number Andy, this is Noah. Long story short, you gave my girlfriend Michelle your number. I'm not, like, pissed or anything. I'm a fan. Like, it doesn't bother me at all.

She just told me that she's going to give your number to her friend Jessica. Do not call her back, okay? This girl has so much gonorrhea. Don't call her, okay? She will give you gonorrhea. I know like 10 guys she gave gonorrhea to. She cannot get rid of it. Do not listen to her.

If she said she doesn't have it, don't believe her, okay? This girl has gonorrhea up to her eyeballs. Alright? If you want proof, I can send you proof. Just call me back. Don't call her. Alright, here we go. Alright, and we're back. Andy Frasco's...

No, no, we're not starting with that. No, we're not. And we're back. Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco. How's your heads? How's your minds? Are you being a good co-worker this week?

I am, actually. Are you talking to me or everybody? I don't even know which ones these are anymore. This shit pisses me off There it is No Nick we're not doing that Pause We're doing that

First off we have Matty O'Neal First of all the co-worker thing is not towards me I'm being a good co-worker Oh yeah some people say I'm not being a good co-worker to you Well that's We're not co-workers you're my boss So that doesn't really work that way Oh is that how it works?

Yeah If you give me money we're not co-workers, you're my boss, so that doesn't really work that way. Oh, is that how it works? Yeah. If you give me money, we're not co-workers. Co-workers is like me and Bo are kind of co-workers. Before we start, bitch. He's my Bo worker. I don't want to... Let me just... We'll talk about fun shit actually instead.

Let's do our plugs first. This is a Secret Dreams Festival. Oh, it is. It is presented by Secret Dreams. Shout out to Secret Dreams. I played the inaugural Secret Dreams last year and it was incredible. It is presented by Secret Dreams. Shout out to Secret Dreams. I played the inaugural Secret Dreams last year, and it was incredible. It is going down this weekend, people. August 17th, 18th, 19th, or is it 18th, 19th, 20th, that weekend.

That weekend. We are playing on it. Next weekend. It's a lot of cool producers. Grizz is playing. We have our head interview for today, Matty O'Neill. Is Tipper back on this year? We're spotline.

I think so. Yeah. And we are the band that's doing the late night thing, so it's going to be awesome. Sick. It's going to be awesome. So this episode is to help have you be aware of what Secret Dreams is. It's at Legends Valley.

It's fucking awesome. Best place. It's like they have a dinosaur. There's no place that has a big-ass fucking triceratops or whatever the fuck that dinosaur's called. It's the Lost Land stuff. They just leave it up all year. I love it. It's crazy what they've done to that property from all that Lost Lands money. There's all these new warehouses on

there now and stuff. All kinds of stuff. It feels like the EDM festivals bring more people. Yeah, I think they do. It's more popular. So you should grab your tickets now before they sell out. I know this is the last week, so this is the big push. And I know a shit ton of people are coming. Everyone's been talking about the lineup.

Rob Chafin is a great talent buyer. Is he? I've noticed that about him. Sick. Did he book it? He did last year. Or at least he's who hired me, I'm assuming. So shout out to Rob.

I think he's a partner in it, too. I don't really know. Our guy. I don't like to ask people what their role is and stuff. I don't want someone to talk about it. We got the late night show on Friday. You do?

Yep. It's going to be a blast. Which stage? I don't know, but we're playing against some ambient DJs, so I think people are going to...

Yeah. They're either going to want People did love the electronic. The electronic stuff was crushing the bands last year at that thing. Yeah.

It was cool. There's not a lot of bands on this year. I think they realize that it needs to be Yeah. It was cool. But Papadozio... There's not a lot of bands on this year. I think they realized that it needs to be more... So shut up. Thanks for feeding us. We appreciate it, Seeker Dreams. Let's fucking go. I think it's a big... Dozio's involved heavily too, right? Papadozio?

Yeah, Papadozio's in it. They're like perfect for that kind of thing. Also, they rule Ohio. And our queen, Maddie O'Neal, is... She's Maddie... She didn't like you saying that. That's not even my nickname. It's an old nickname from a family. Maddie Bro-Neal? Yeah, Bro... She didn't like you saying that. That's not even my nickname. It's an old nickname from before me. Maddie Bro-Neil.

Yeah, yeah. Somebody else thought of that way before me. That was funny. Her interview. We had a great talk with her. She came over to the house and you're going to love that interview. That's this episode, right?

Yeah, this episode. She's blowing up. And we're really excited. She just did Coachella, hot off Coachella. She did that free show with Grizz in Denver. She did a pretty nice after party

last weekend, too. Yeah, who was that? He was saying she did some impromptu show at the temple for someone who couldn't make the gig. Oh, yes. That was for Bonobo. Bonobo. Damn. She's getting the calls.

Let's go. Our queen's getting the calls, baby. Yeah, you know. So come on out to Secret Dreams. If you're in the Ohio area, we have tons of fans in Ohio. It's very easy to get to, by the way. It's like 25 minutes from the airport. Yeah. You'll be so stimulated.

There's hotels. There's going to be a shit ton of lights. If you don't want to camp, it's right up the highway, so there's a ton of hotels nearby that are cheap. I might even take a little ecstasy and have a sweat and just listen to ... They book the good shit. The electronic music they book is like

they know what the fuck they're doing. They're not just trying to, like, sell tickets. I know. I want to wear, like, a whole Adidas tracksuit and just fucking, just sweat. I think Rob Chafin

probably has a couple for you. He's always rocking those. Yo, Rob, let me borrow. He's, like, seven foot tall, though.

Nah. Rob's tall. He's probably six. I bet he's six, six, six, seven. No,

I'm going to buy one that fits me. I'm going to get a tracksuit. I'm just going to fucking rock that shit. I've known Rob since he was,

like, 19, I think. So, you're also having another look today. I mean, you have these like porn star sunglasses on. Is that your thing now? You're just going to wear sunglasses everywhere you go?

Well, I think if we talk about what I'm wearing, they'll go watch the video instead of listening. So if you want to watch what Nick's wardrobe is, he's going to be having a new wardrobe every week. That's what he promised to get people because he thinks sex sells. It does. So head to volume.com and watch what Nick's

going to wear this week. For the listeners who are in their cars, he's got some new fucking Finland shoes. I don't even know. Those are so hip that I'm a little ahead of the curve, guys. Yeah. Pretty hip. What's that? It's a new shoe store on Colfax.

Well, they used to be here in Cherry Creek, and then they left during the pandemic, and they're back. Did they have to convince you they were hip, or did you already know they were hip? No, I went there to get these. Oh, they're like, no, this is it, man. This is the style. No, I've been wanting some Karus.

They're extremely comfortable, and they're very lightweight, and I like how they look. And he's wearing black socks, hot. Matches his black shirt, hot. I don't like white socks. Yeah, I don't like them either. It depends. I like off-white socks.

Off-white, but not like, I don't know. I don't like the dorky white. And then you're wearing these, you know, Tony Soprano glasses. They are kind of Tony Soprano. It's like, I feel like you're going to beat someone up for me. Yeah, I might. Yeah, who?

I don't know one in particular, but who do you need me to beat up? I mean, you know where my limits are I got a couple calls I got enough weight to throw around Oh, fuck Am I really that hard to work with? Not in my experience

I mean, you're a little impatient sometimes But that's... I'll take that over And am I an alcoholic? Well, there's levels to that shit. You know what I mean? I don't know. I'm not qualified to say who's an alcoholic and not. You know what I mean? If you went to a psychologist,

they might say you need to maybe dial back a little or a doctor, but like... But do you think I'm... You're not blowing guys for blood lights. I am. But you're not. I'm not blowing dudes for blood lights. But's the reason why I'm burnt. But you're not. I'm not going to do it for blood lights. But you drink a lot.

Yeah. You do drink a lot. But like, that doesn't, not the reason why I'm burnt out. No, that's not why you're burnt out. You're burnt out because you have,

I'm doing a shit ton. And you're like around a lot of people all the time. Yeah, I have, you know, I love doing it, but you know, it's like,

Usually the things you love are what burns you out first. Because you put more into it. So you get more burnout. If you hate something, you half-ass it. So it's kind of harder to get burnout. You more get bored with that or something. Yeah. I was talking about that last week.

It's not that I'm... I was a little bored with how everything's rolling. But like... It was going well. That's why. But it's going well. Yeah. Did you have good crowds in the mountain run? It was fucking awesome. Any sellouts? There was some duds. There was going well. But it's going well, yeah. Did you have good crowds in the mountain run?

It was fucking awesome. Any sellouts? There was some duds. There was a couple sellouts. There was some duds. Grand Junction was a dud. Who even lives there? I've never heard of Grand Junction. I know. How many people? Like 60. In a thousand cap room. Oh, okay. Well, there we are. You know what the sleeper show

was? Fucking Durango, Colorado. I've heard Durango rages. I've heard Durango rages. I've heard that sound rages. I did not expect that. That might be the sleeper show of the year. Really? Animus Theater? Yeah, I was rolling in there.

I was like, fuck, no one's going to be here. What does that have, 300 or something? Sold it out. And we sold it out. But like a hard sellout. A hard sellout. And then, what else was the show?

Oh, Steamboat Springs was, you know, we always do good there, but that was the biggest we've ever played. The Snowball. Oh, you didn't do one of the clubs.

You did the... Yeah, the energy was lit. You know, I was tired. I mean, we did 13 shows in 14 days. That's a lot. Yeah. Probably made some money though.

That made some money. Don't you go there. Don't even go there. Don't even go there. Times 0.15. Shut the fuck up, Nick. Instigator. You told me about it. Yeah.

Before the pod. Yeah. There was a couple duds. I was just like, you know, another show that was awesome, Pine Creek Lodge. I don't even know where that is. In Montana, near Bozeman. John Mayer, Dave Chappelle did a show there.

Actually, that was a sleeper one, too. I did not expect that to be that rowdy, too. There's a lot of celebrities up there in Montana. Michael Keaton was there. Bill Jackson. I forgot. You are going to love this. Okay. I got an email. Bo got an email from Utah.

Yo, pull up this email. Am I actually going to love this or is this going to be something I don't love? Pull up this email. Don't put the name up there. Is this going to be mean? So we got fucking this email. Basically calling me an anti-Semitic. Because I was talking about Jews.

You're a Jew. This is what I'm talking about. You got to read the... Hold on. I can't even read it. Hold on. I got to take off my sunglasses. Read this email.

Don't pull it up. Don't put it up. It is kind of hard to see. Here, go take the mic. Get close to it. Yeah, okay. And read it to the crowd. I couldn't believe this shit.

My wife and I live in Park City. Alrighty, I don't care about your opinion, by the way. We attended the Andy Frasco today at Snow Basin. About 20 to 30 minutes into the show, the lead guy, Andy, I guess. Wow, you definitely went to school for math. Made a seriously offensive anti-Semitic remark. It was intended as a joke, but that's no excuse. We are Jewish.

He's Jewish too, guys. We were made to feel uncomfortable and we left. Frasco mentioned at the very beginning of the show. Can you scroll back left? It's cut off on my screen. Show that they had done 180 performances over the past year. This kind of comment promotes a negative stereotype that is insulting, seriously harmful, and potentially dangerous.

Potentially. I'm Jewish. I'm talking. It's like fuck off. It would be analogous to using the N-word, no it wouldn't, in front of a mostly white crowd with a few black people. No, it's not actually. Unacceptable. You should not be talking about the N-word clearly.

You live in Park City, Utah. I don't want to hear about your opinion on the N-word. You are, you probably use it when no one's around, and now you're mad about this. On our way out, we asked to speak with the manager. Oh, my God. Look at this. This Karen shit. Look at this Karen shit. But, like, the funny part about it is I did the horror

at the show. And I said I was Jewish. This is my 20-year anniversary of my bar mitzvah. Oh, yeah. I bet you do. Yeah. They sent an attachment? Video? Oh my god. Once you... What's a white person...

Jews are greedy. Are you kidding me? They sent this too? Anti-Semitic myth. Well, if a screen cap says it, it must be true. Listen. Listen, Karen. Let me tell you something. Jews are greedy. Everyone's greedy. Let me tell you something, Karen.

It was... I am Jewish. It was a joke about myself. So you need like a different word for a Jewish Karen. Like, what's a... No, then that's being racist. I'm just kidding. No, it's anti-Semitic.

This is what pisses me off about judging books by its cover. I don't understand. Don't bring the N-word into it if you're white. It's like, fuck off. You don't get to use the N-word, and you also don't get to use the N-word in your defense. Well, you're making fun of the stereotype. Yes.

How can you be smart enough to afford a second home in Berkshire, Utah, but not smart enough to understand basic sarcasm? I love that they did. I didn't even see the attachment that they did. They sent an attachment. Jews are great. No shit, dude. I love that they did. I didn't even see the attachment that they did. They sent an attachment. Jews are great. No shit, dude. It's called a joke. It's called a Jewish guy making a Jewish joke.

Would I make that joke? No, but I'm not Jewish. But is this what our society is becoming? We can't even make fun of ourselves? What is comedy? I don't know. I don't know. You can't make fun of anyone else. You can't make fun of yourself. Are we just losing? You don't even make it funny. You don't even think of anyone else You can't make fun of yourself Are we just like losing You don't even think that's true

You're making fun of the stereotype You're literally pointing the mirror back Look how stupid that is I'm a poor idiot and I'm Jewish I was saying I was broke I broke Jew That's the whole point That person I hope they're watching this

You're dumb No one cares about your opinion Like that's the whole point. It's like, Oh, that person. I hope they're watching this. You're dumb. Okay. Yeah. I don't care. No one cares about your opinion. You have way too, you need more problems in your life. You know what I'm saying?

Send an email and then ask the manager when I've been, it's like, I've been talking. They literally said in the email that they contact the manager. Like you usually have to be caught on video contacting the manager. You don't tell people you contact the manager like a total fucking loser. Just leave if you don't like it. What a loser.

Just leave. 998 people had a good time. Two of you had a bad time. 10,000 people had a good time. Or whatever. Oh, it was like that. Okay. It was huge.

Okay. So even more, that even strengthens my point. It just pisses me off that like people are... That email is so stupid. That email pissed me off. That guy's stupid. It was just like... Just leave. People just pushing on me off that like people are... That email is so stupid. That email pissed me off. That guy's stupid. This whole week was just like... Just leave.

People just pushing on me. Pushing on me. Just fucking leave if you don't like it. No one asked for your fucking input, dude. Just because you have a $3 million house in Utah doesn't mean your opinion has been asked for. You know what I'm saying? No one asked for it.

Yeah. Ask for your money back even. Who gives a shit? It was free. Okay. Then get the fuck out of here, dude. Thank you. You're not even charging them to be anti-Semitic?

Well, then how greedy can he be, guys? He's not even charging them to be. If he's so greedy, why was the show free? There you go. I'm going to clap to that too. I just can't stand people who get offended For other people Is it over? Is free speech over? No, it's not that bad, don't be dramatic

It's two people out of a thousand That sent you an email, you're not going to prison for it You looked up like you were a philosopher And I'm just immediately Like you're trying to be deep I'm like no, no I think free speech Is pretty strong actually Look at the kind of shit you see on Twitter every day

People say things But that's the reason why I became a musician, to be honest Because I saw the freedom I saw the freedom of, I could be myself And no one's going to judge me for being myself If it's working on Or they can judge you, but it doesn't matter Doesn't matter

But now they're trying to take gigs away from me And try to You don't have to go, you weren't required to go to that It wasn't matter. It doesn't matter. Yeah, yeah. But now they're trying to take gigs away from me and try to... You don't have to go. You weren't required to go to that. It wasn't a mandatory meeting. They're telling you he should never play in Utah. You're like, go fuck yourself. Oh, yeah.

That's the anti-Semitic thing in Utah. You guys, maybe you should figure out some other things with religion there before you start fucking worried about the anti-Semitism. All right, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. That means run by a Mormon cult. Not all Utahians are... The government is. anti-semitism all right chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill chill really. You know what's more shocking than euphoria? Yeah. They got high school kids choking each other out. And like doing heroin. That's what I don't get. You can't make anything these days, really, because the most popular show has two 16-year-olds choking each other out

and doing needle drugs. So maybe you just aren't making anything good. You know what I'm saying? You can be pretty offensive. There's comedians selling out theaters saying whatever the fuck they want. I just hate that some people judge. Maybe you're just not funny. I just don't like how people don't see the three-fourths of the show

that I'm promoting internal happiness and finding yourself. And they're worried about that one joke. About yourself, though. You can say whatever you want about yourself. I got this call in the morning

I could tell You don't believe anything you say About your Monday morning speeches Who cares What if those Monday morning speeches Were giving me motivation to help I thought they kind of were a little bit That's the point

We're no different That's why I never watch any of them I know're no different! That's why I never watch any of them. I'm like, I know you're just talking to yourself. Come on, like... You know what I mean? I'm talking to myself, and I'm trying to help people say, like, hey, look, I have a problem, too. Also, you can just, like, block him if you don't like them. You're not required to watch them Monday morning.

You know what I mean? What do you want him to say? Everybody go out and run out in the street and get hit by a car? Because what if you believe that at that moment in the morning? Like, fuck off. Right. Who gives a shit? If somebody handed me 20 bucks and they didn't really want to,

I'd still take the 20 bucks. Because isn't that optimism? Isn't that like teaching your brain how to be optimistic through hard times? It's like, okay, maybe we're sad, but it's a mind state. Do you think everyone means everything they fucking say all day? I haven't said anything I've meant in like five years. All right. Chill, chill, chill. I haven't said anything I've meant in like five years. All right, chill, chill, chill. I haven't.

I do, though. I mean everything I say. Well, yeah, yeah. There's that, but I'm just saying you don't have to either. Who gives a shit, dude? If you're being positive, who cares? This is bullshit, dude. It's only dudes ever do that.

I never see a chick do that almost ever. Girls are the best. I don't know about the best, but... I love girls. They're better in that way, for sure. Why are people so fucking fake? Is this such bullshit? I don't know.

Anyway, Doubting Gummies. Enjoy Matty O'Neil. Are we going to be able to record? Can we even post this? Shut the fuck up. I don't know. That guy sucks. You guys are all dumb.

Get your life. Dialed and Gummies. This is very exciting. Let's promote these. Yeah, we can cut out that and we'll start it. Oh, yeah, this is mine. Guys. Mine's better.

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some dialed in gummies. They're the best. Volume.com, dialed in gummies. They let me be myself. They do. They haven't told us to do one goddamn thing different. Yeah, they just said just be yourself. Come here, eat this food. We're going to pour some of our stuff on it. We got a new record.

It's out. August 11th, it came out. The Optimist. This is the part about being optimistic. This is why I'm very proud of this record.

Thank you, everyone who's been giving me all the love about this album. We've worked our ass off on it. The campaign, the campaign trail to get here. We did it all and you guys are giving us all the love about this album. We worked our ass off on it. The campaign trail to get here, we did it all, and you guys are giving us all the love

and saying how this record's so important to you guys. And I just want to say, from the bottom of my heart, I thank you guys so much for being there for me, listening to these songs, listening to me pour out my heart. It was my first time being vulnerable in a sense that wasn't about following

my dreams. It was about following love and my questions and my first time being in love. Thank you so much for letting me be honest and put that in. You get to a certain age and you can't really write songs about following your dreams anymore. You know what I mean?

Imagine like a 55-year-old guy singing like he's 28 and the whole world's in front of him. No, dude. Sun's going down, brother. No, I don't believe that. If you're 55 and you want to start a new gig, go fucking do it.

Don't start a band. Do something else. We got enough musicians already. What something else. We got enough musicians already. Oh, what an opening. We got enough people fucking playing with other people's hearts. Why do I care so much about what people think? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I think that's just the human nature. I think it's just some people do and some people don't. Everybody does more than they say they do. They do. Everyone cares. For sure, everyone cares more than they say they care. Right. Like, cares. For sure, everyone cares more than they say they care. Right. I care a little, but I definitely care less than you do.

I like when people don't like me. Well, it's hard when this whole job is about what other people care about. I don't mind. Yeah, exactly. I'm just used to people not liking me that much. It's been a thing my whole life. I like you. I know, but people don't like me right away sometimes.

Do you like me? Yeah, you're cool. Back to me, though. Do you love me? No. What do we do? We're just going to keep following dreams because you're important. And I hope this

episode is inspiring to you as well because I'm not trying to be pessimistic about the music industry. I'm not trying to be pessimistic about the music industry. I'm not trying to be pessimistic about... I just want... There's going to be times in your life where people don't agree with how you approach life and how you approach things.

Don't let that stop you from being original and enthusiastic about life. Sometimes it wears me down when I get letters like that or people yelling at me for being myself. But you got to take a step back and realize their opinions don't fucking matter, people. You got to love yourself the way you are.

Everything doesn't need a freaking master's in theater level criticism right now. Every single thing is getting criticized like it's Schindler's List. Some people are just trying to have a good time. Right. So stay happy. Stay optimistic.

And we got Matty O'Neill on the show. The actual interview part's way more loose and fun than this. You guys will stick around. People like when we get mad, though. I know. You're not going to always have good days. That email sucked. That guy sucks.

Go home. I can't believe that email. Go fuck your wife or something. I mean, he... How few problems do you have in your life? Can we trade lives? You want to pitch Matty O'Neal for the... No, no, it's good. Matty O'Neal is one of my dearest friends in Denver.

Hey, Chris, play some Matty O'Neal for us. She's been an upcoming producer for a while, and she's up and come. And she's kind of been blowing up over the last two years. She's one of the nicest people around. She's funny. She's been an upcoming producer for a while, and she's up and come. And she's kind of been blowing up over the last two years. She's one of the nicest people around. She's funny. She's talented. She's got gray hair. She's finally getting her call.

She's getting flowers. I'm saying, yeah. She's up and come, man. Yeah, you're going to love this interview with her. She tells a story about Coachella, how she almost missed her set because Coachella was too big. That was awesome. What was the other? Yeah, she tells a lot of different stories.

Yeah, she told about the temple, about how she got up. Oh, she subbed for Bonobo last second. She got up out of the bathtub to go play for like 15,000 people. She said she took an edible before. Yeah. So she was all high. She's not like a pothead either. No, she was like just chilling.

She was like ready to have like a. She just rules. She's just a good person. I like working with her and I like just hanging out with her too. So you're going to love it. So guys, sorry. Sometimes you guys are my the only way I could get things out.

Don't make jokes about yourself, Andy. I'm not going to make jokes about myself anymore. I'm going to play it serious. I'm going to be real serious. Maybe just Google them for 10 seconds before you criticize them. Alright guys, enjoy Matty O'Neal and go to Secret Dreams. Go to Secret Dreams.

It's this weekend. People, Legends Valley. Now go. It actually is dope. What an episode. Wow, I can't believe we sponsored this episode while you're bitching out everybody.

Well, have a great day. We got the queen herself, Maddie O'Neal. The best friend in the whole world. Hello. Hi, Maddie. Hi, everyone. What's going on? Thanks for having me.

Dude, this is great. We get to see each other. We're not on tour. I know. Talking for like 10 seconds. It's great. How's it going out there? You're blowing up.

This is crazy. I mean, not crazy like, wow, we're not expecting this, but isn't it crazy? I feel everything feels really awesome right now. It feels like I've hit a stride. I've worked harder than I've ever worked in my life and having some really cool opportunities and playing

in front of new fans a lot, which I think helps. And the mayor. You don't get to share the money. You don't have to share the money with anyone. in front of new fans a lot, which I think helps. And? The mayor. You don't have to share the money with anyone. Let's go. I could talk any of you in the DJ room. We got that.

Just DJ your own song. I saw that Louis bag. I saw you rolling with the Louis Vuitton bag. I'm like, my girl is making some skrill. I remember when Maddie used to be poor. I was poor for a really is making some skrill. Well, I'm finally you know. I remember when Maddie used to be poor. I was poor for a really long time. Yeah, we were poor together. I remember we used to smoke

American Spirits in your Jeep. Wait, really? Remember? What did you have? Like an SUV? It was like a Ford Escape or something. Yeah, a Ford Escape. The front was all busted. I remember that car. We used to just sit in the parking lot. Chloe, be crashing We used to just sit in the parking lot Chloe be crashing

We used to sit in the parking lot and just smoke cigarettes And say man fuck the music Now look at us We're winning baby We're winning So Chloe go crashing cars Go crashing cars How does it feel to be successful?

Can you enjoy it or are you always thinking about the next step? I mean I'm super happy right now and I think that's what being successful means I'm not worrying about

chasing my bank account being empty finally reinvesting every dollar every dollar that I make back into my project. I have the means to continue to grow my project. I think that's the coolest part is the ideas that I've had I can finally make happen.

Do you think being in love helped you distract your other side of your brain to tell you that you're not worth it? For sure. Yeah. By the way, you're in love. Shout out. You don't see Manny at the... Manny's in love.

I got to say, since Manny's been in love, you don't see her at that second after party. You used to see her at the second after party. The food. second after party often. You used to see her at the second after party. Maybe the third after party. I would always get texts from Gerlach, never go to a third location. I used to give you advice like that,

didn't I? You did, yeah. But do you think it helped your confidence to get you out of that little depression bubble to say that you're not worthy of this?

Yeah, 100%. I mean, a lot of people know I came from a not-so-great relationship in my last music project, and it took me a really, really long time to get over all of that trauma of just someone constantly telling you that you're not good,

you're not going to make it. Meanwhile, they're not good, and they didn't make it? Yeah, exactly. Ooh going to make it. Meanwhile, they're not good and they didn't make it? Yeah, exactly. I said it. He said it. Hot take. It's not that hot of a take, actually.

It's a pretty observable fact. Oh, my God. Well, don't hit me. But yeah, that's so... Yeah, right? Yeah, being in a comfortable, healthy, awesome relationship with another musician that fully understands my life, my lifestyle, and what's important to me. And lets me do exactly what I do and is not intimidated by it. I think definitely was a huge factor in me focusing.

It's so funny how everyone starts getting successful when they stop thinking about not in success. Did dating a musician sort of help with the imposter syndrome a little bit? Like having a musician be like, this is good. Does that help with that a little bit? Yes and no. He doesn't really like all of my music. That's good too though probably

Has he ever said this shit's trash? Not in that way I can tell that he doesn't like stuff But that's better though Because then when he says he likes something It means he actually likes it You know what I'm saying? And like I know him

He likes certain stuff Snooty jazz musicians All have a certain way of thinking And approaching music differently. He's not that snooty. Not calling him snooty, but I'm just saying like that whole...

That vibe. Coming from that world. Yeah, exactly. Getting brought up learning jazz. Yeah, yeah. You know, everyone just has a certain mentality. But I think he's actually really

intrigued by my process and like how different it is from his he's just like he needs you don't know you can't play this on a piano but you just made that like what yeah right what the hell how did you do that yeah exactly explain your process to us like why is yours different than his um well it's like it's so much more technical than his approach to music, for sure, because I'm working in a computer. And figuring out the right sound. And you're doing mixing.

Yeah, I'm mixing. I'm doing sound design stuff. That's really what I've dove into the past couple years, is really focusing on learning synths and sound designs, because that's the way that the bass world has gone. It's really producers flexing on their sound design.

Oh, really? That's like the beef? It's like rappers. That's like the thing is people listen to your tones and your sound design. How hard is it to like uh how hard is it to flex outside of the computer and onto the live setting like you feel like it's a good mix on the computer then you hear it at a festival you're

like ah fuck i wish i changed that are you always fine-tuning your sound design uh yeah for sure i mean i've definitely like worked with Some other people to like learn You know The really nerdy technical shit I want to hear I don't know nothing about this shit Tell me about it He just got a computer The whole like sound system

He booked his whole tour on an iPhone Voice memos Can I play in Charlotte on Thursday? Can I get second hold? Oh my God, that's late. So tell me about sound design. I don't know nothing about it. Well, a lot of like the,

kind of like the dub-based culture right now is like the sound system culture. You know, like it's like depends on what speakers you play on and like certain speakers are best for certain frequencies. And it's all about the low end. Like you've heard of function ones, right? Yeah. So people are obsessed with certain sound systems in the electronic world

because the sound design that they make is tuned for a certain system. Like your band would sound terrible on function ones. Any band does. But electronic music sounds amazing on it. It's kind of weird, actually. So are you studying the advances at each show of what these speakers have? Are you bringing your own sound system?

No. I respect the honesty. Can somebody help me bring them? Nobody's got time for that. So how do they know then? Moving forward around making new mixes, if every speaker system's different in each club, like how do you execute a set?

I guess you can like, you can mix, have the front of house mixed for certain systems, but that's like obvious for any room. But yeah, I mean, people just, I think in the bass world, there's like a sector of people that are very in tune with like that. Yeah. Even the fans know it though. That's what's weird.

I think it's the only style of music where like the fans sort of know the craft. For sure. There's like producers making a living just doing tutorials of how they make shit. Making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.

People just like love to like see it. Anthony Thogmart from Papadosio makes like half his living doing that seed to stage thing where he just like

does tutorials on Ableton because there's so many hobbyists too. Yeah, for sure. Because it's accessible. Yeah. You don't have to like... Well, it's like technology

and like plug-ins and like all of the, you know... Just EQing. Yeah, like all the mixing, mastering, like just like the techniques and the... A lot of the plugins have come super far, like the digital sense and everything that I'm using. It's just like kind of mind blowing. Also, you're being a little humble.

The reason you don't have to worry about sound systems is because you're blowing up and all the gigs you play have million dollar sound systems waiting for you when you get there. Let's go. That's a real question. She's too humble, guys. She's a humble. I'm not always playing gigantic systems.

I'm planning a fall tour this fall and it's going to be like going back to the small clubs. You're doing a headline tour? For the first time on my own. You're doing a headline tour? For the first time on my own. You're doing a headline tour? Yeah. Is this like the first big one?

Yeah. Are you nervous? I'm excited. Yeah, it's awesome, right? Yeah. It's not finalized yet. I think when it's finalized, then I'll be nervous. I'll be like, okay, now we got to sell these tickets.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it is really exciting because I've done certain markets, just kind of like weekend pop-ins. And then I did a co-headline tour in 2021. That was still weird. Who was that with?

It was with Marble Years. Oh, yeah, yeah. That was still weird because everyone was still wearing masks. Right. Kind of like, you can't really gauge. Right. How many hard tickets? Yeah, everyone was scared to go out. So it was just kind of... We co-headlined

a tour in 2021. Yeah, the Gerlach Frasca tour. Co-headline. I got a question about the EDM world. Is it okay to say EDM? Yeah, I don't get offended anymore.

You're playing EDM. That's where I'm at. Especially when you're DJing, that's EDM world. Is it okay to say EDM? Yeah, I don't get offended anymore. You're playing EDM. That's where I'm at. Especially when you're DJing. That's EDM. But you're also doing this. I love you doing this house set too. Yeah. Which is tight. I call it Madhouse. I love it. And you're double dipping. Make that money, baby. Let's go. That's how you get that Louis Tom bag.

Make that money, queen. Make that money. That's how you get that Louis Tom bag. That's how you get that Louis, man. Yo, Secret Dreams Fest. We're doing two sets this weekend, baby. You make my money That's how you get The Louis Vuitton bags That's how you get That Louis man You got Gucci belt Yo Secret dreams fast We doing two sets This weekend baby You know what I'm saying

She's Drake I actually told Phil That idea a while ago And he was like I don't think That's gonna happen Like why would they Book you

When they can use Somebody else's name Yeah In that slot Like well I'm already there Yeah But second set You don't have to pay me the same amount

as my first set. She's smart. I love it. Second set, get a little off. It's also just been super refreshing because it's like a full DJ set. House music does rule and it's fun to play.

I fell in love with house music. The producer world was always... Producers using Ableton was also separate from the DJ DJs. Right. And so I feel like by playing DJ sets now, I feel like I'm part of that club too. They respect you finally. They're weird about that, the real DJ DJs.

They don't always like the Ableton people. But I never wanted to be able to have to turn down an opportunity being like, I don't know how to play on those things. Right. You know what I mean? That's the standard in the DJ world. Are you practicing on all these different rigs just so you're good at all of them? Just in case?

Because you probably have a lot of backline that's maybe not exactly your rig. Yeah. So I invested in CDJs over the pandemic and taught myself those. Okay. For someone who doesn't know what's a CDJ? It's like turntables, but the digital version. Oh, cool. And they're like the best

ones. So it's like if you show up to a club, any club, that's what's... Put that mic close to your mouth. That's what's at the hello. I want to hear that milky. You want to hear the rasp? I want to hear them. It's less raspy now that you don't smoke cigarettes. I know.

I remember as I was coming here, you're like, hello, Andy, how you doing? I'm like, my name's Matty. It's definitely gotten a lot better now that I'm not waking up in the morning. I'm opening for opio tonight.

You should start smoking. I got Arby's for running the club. She loves Arby's for running in the club. She loves Arby's. You love Arby's? I hate Arby's. It's a joke because one time it was a menorant gig, right? Yeah. And you like brought bird call for him or something. You had some bird call.

Yeah, someone wanted bird call. And I was like 40 feet away in the Cervantes green room. I was just yelling, Maddie's got Arby's in the club. Maddie brought Arby's in the club. Now I just say it every time she does anything. So go back to that. That's his green room. I was just yelling, Maddie's got Arby's in the club. Maddie bought Arby's in the club. Now I just say it every time she does anything. So go back to the CDJs, right? CDJs?

CDJs, yeah. So go back to them. So that's like the industry standard for DJs. Yes. And like my normal sets, I use a laptop and like two MIDI controllers.

So I have to like bring that everywhere and then plug into like the mixer. If I'm playing with DJs, they usually go seamless with each other because they're all using the same equipment. But I have to be like, oh, excuse me. Here comes my laptop. Can you guys scoot your thing over? Where do I plug in my interface?

What's your take on three DJs on one set? Is it obnoxious? Yeah. It is fun to do back-to-back sets. I've only done really a couple. One was with Jason Huber, but that's like two people.

So we're like actually both doing stuff most of the time. Yeah, and you're like selecting songs. But yeah, when there's like a hundred people on stage, just like Get the fuck Out of here Dude can you You should do a thing

At your show Where like guys Stand at the back Of the stage Holding their phones up Like DJs Just hire like 20 people off Craigslist

And show people How dumb it looks When they do it Anytime it's not a DJ I don't understand that Yeah Why is that? What's the culture

Of everyone just hanging out By the DJ They just want to look cool I mean it's I think it's Like the house music world It's always a party on I mean, it's, I think it's start like the house music world. It's all, it's always a party on stage.

Like that's just like how it is. But then it definitely carried into the bass world where they're like, well, let's all just party with each other on stage. And it's like, it's different though. Right. Yeah.

It comes off way different. Yeah. It comes off as like, they're on their phone texting and drinking. They're trying to look cool. It's a little cloudy. It's social media. It's like live social media.

It feels like some ho shit. It feels like some ho shit. It's like analog Instagram is what it is. But when the house people do it, it's different. It's more of a party. It's part of the culture I feel like of the house and techno world. It's always like a party, I feel like, of the house and techno world.

It's always like a party. Look at my hoodie on. I know Derek. I met Derek once. I was his roommate in 07. Yeah, exactly. You know Michael? Yeah, you shouldn't have been on this podcast, Matty.

We're on fire right now. We'll talk to shit. You could just keep your awesomeness. You guys are the shit talkers. So you're doing this stuff. You have these two sets. The house one's fun for you, right? Are you going to put out like a house record?

I think it'd be awesome. I think I'm going to at one point. It'd be awesome. Yes, it's just like such a cool outlet because I'm playing most of my own music all the time when I do my regular sets. But like this, I can literally just show up with a USB in any environment and just be ready to go.

And it's like way more on the fly because I'm just like have playlists and I'm like choosing stuff, reading the room. And you know they're going to like every song kind of. Yeah. You're like way less self-conscious about other people's music. You know what I mean?

It's like, whatever, I didn't write it. I'm super proud of myself that I've gotten to this point where I don't know if you guys saw the other night, but Bonobo was supposed to play a psychedelic research conference. And his flight like emergency landed

and he was like headlining Temple and they called me to fill in for him I was literally in the bathtub I had already eaten melatonin I was like ready to go to sleep it was my day off

I was like okay I'm like chilling hard and I said no I was like, okay, I'm chilling hard. You had the ball on the end of it on and the pajamas. And I said no. I was like, nope, I'm in the bathtub. First of all, that's intimidating to fill in for Bonobo. Who's Bonobo? He's legendary. He's also an amazing producer, too.

He just does it all. He can do a live band. I almost went to see him that night because I'm a big fan. But you know they're calling you for the first call for a reason. You are that person, Maddie. And I literally drained the bathtub. I was there in 30 minutes from bathtub to stage.

That's when my queen... Was it a packed house already? Was it a packed house already? It was a sold out show. I literally walked in and went on stage. I told them they had to let the crowd down and tell them that Bonobo wasn't coming.

You're going to have to pay me more to do that. It's not your job. Yeah, exactly. Yo, I know you want Bonobo. I can't see you letting people down like that either. I'm not going to do both. Did you crush it right away? Did you go into eye on the tiger mode?

Tell me about it. Yeah, like I said no at first and then they told me how much money I was going to get and I drained the bathtub. Wait, what? How much? I was like, tequila. Ryan!

Stop your driving me down the road. But I've never played a set on melatonin, So that was interesting Yeah that's what I was going to ask you Like were you fighting with your head To like Eventually adrenaline is going to win And you're going to get out of the melatonin

But that first three songs You see fucking sold out temple You're like fuck I'd be intimidated My tour manager was actually Working with Bonobos That's part of why I got the call But he came and

Picked me up Shout out to Frost He came and picked me up And like did the whole Like let's go Let's go Let's go Yeah he's good like that

Like got me tequila shots And just got me pumped Like I have a video Of myself Just recording myself On the way to the venue Like wanting to remember That moment

Being like Holy shit This is really happening Have you ever played Temple? Just recording myself on the way to the venue Like wanting to remember that moment Being like holy shit This is really happening Have you ever played Temple? I did for like a weed party But not like a sold out your show No definitely not That was like one of the craziest nights of my life

Just like how fast that happened I was just like wow So you did the set Tell me about your brain right when you got off stage I was just like, wow. So you did the set. Tell me about your brain right when you got off stage. I was just like totally kind of in shit. It didn't feel real that that happened, I think. It was partly because I was

a little loopy. And you're drinking and you're just kind of tired and you're drinking tequila like, fuck, I'm in this fucking whirlwind, bro. It's like an hour set. That's so funny because from the time you got the call to the time you were done, it's only like an hour and a half.

It happened so fast. That's what's weird about it. You guys are all coming to my house and you're going to hang out because I'm not ready to process what just happened. So you had people over to get the come down? Yeah, I had a couple people over. I would hate to be by myself.

Now, do I go back to the bathtub? Do I take another melatonin? Now I drank. Is that illegal to do? That's always the weirdest feeling. When you play a local show that's really big. If I play one of those Red Rock gigs and I'm just driving home afterwards,

you're just like, what? Like in silence? Yeah, because I'm just going home. I'm not going to an after party. It's just like 10,000 people to just like a podcast. That is like one of the weirdest parts about... Being in Denver? No, just like being a musician.

I guess we were in a band, so we had people to hang out with. But like for a long time, I was traveling by myself. Is it lonely? It's kind of like a stand-up. Yeah, I would just like go home to the hotel and the silence is like really loud. You Yeah, I would just go home to the hotel and the silence is really loud. You're just like, oh. I don't have any friends.

That's probably why I went after-party. Yeah, exactly. And you have a boyfriend now, so feel like you don't have to go out, go out, and get fucked up with friends to socialize. You can just talk to your boyfriend on... This is exciting. Oh my God.

Wow, you're like a mature woman. This is crazy. You talk about impromptu shows. I mean, what about that fucking free Grease show I saw you do? Oh, yeah. What was that? Was that a last minute call too or what? That was huge. I was on tour in the mountains.

Again, it was Frost was with me. He's been... He also works for Grizz. He calls it full court press. He's getting me all these random opportunities. Full court press. We're going for it. We're pushing you over. He works for Grizz too. He's like one of Grizz's assistant

tour managers. He hit me up and was like, so I think we might be doing a free show for the people tomorrow. And I had a show in Fort Collins that night. And I was like, well, I don't have any time to prepare for that. No, I can't do it. He threw my name in the hat anyway. And I was just signed up for it. So like Soundchecked in Fort Collins

was like putting, throwing songs in a playlist between the Soundcheck and the show. Oh man, was it a DJ gig then? Yeah. Okay. Are you always changing it up? Yeah. Yeah.

Is that important in that world? Do they care if you change it up? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Definitely. I'm sorry I'm so dumb. I know nothing. I literally know nothing about it.

No, but I like when you interview EDM people. Yeah, no. More than singer-songwriter I wouldn't expect you to I just love you, Manny You're fucking badass Okay, so you got the call You got the call from Papa Grant Yeah, I did

Were you guys homies? Yeah, we've been homies We just haven't done Really any shows with him. But yeah, I had no idea what that situation was going to be like. Usually they're free shows for the people are like 400 people. This is like 5,000. You know, in like a pop-up venue somewhere.

Right. And I literally show up that day and the 6,000 kids are already in the parking lot. In the parking lot. And I'm like, what is going on? What was going through your head there? You're like, fuck. Yeah, I was super nervous because that was the first time

I've actually totally winged a DJ set. With zero preparation. Did you like it? it was really fun and like it was so rewarding because

I know that I've gotten my skill levels to the point where I can just show up and just fucking kill it just do it

you know so that's why that was the first situation that was like that and that's why I was confident going into the bonobos like I

you know oh cause you already did the grizz one before the bonobos yeah so that was kinda like the second time I was like that and that's why I was confident going into the Bonobo. Oh, because you already did the Grizz one before the Bonobo. That was kind of like the second time I was like, alright. Got the call. Oh my god. You're getting into the Illuminati. This is it. You're in the DJ Illuminati.

I think so. We won't talk more about it. They landed Bonobo in New Mexico. Yeah, the Denver Illuminati was like, nah, let's keep Bonobo. Let's keep Bonobo in New Mexico Yeah The Denver Illuminati was like Let's keep Bonobo In New Mexico Call it in Oh shit

What happened when you got off that stage? It's been a crazy couple months You watched Grizz Yeah Grant played We hung out and then we went Back to his house for a little bit and kicked it What did he say? Was that the first time he's seen your set? It was the first time he'd ever seen me play a DJ set

What did he say? He said it was awesome It was like the first time I Really felt like he gave me that nod In like Cause I've known him for a really long time The first time he saw me play I was like terrible He actually

Sat me down and was like Yo those transitions were like He'll do that to people I know a producer that he took aside You need to do parallel compression on your drums Like shit like that What's that mean? It's like when you run all your drums

To a bus And you have that compressed so it kind of makes them stronger without louder, I guess. Yeah. So they don't clip, but they're really cut better. Pretty good for a sax player. Yeah. But yeah, so he'll pull producers aside and be like, yeah, your drums aren't knocking.

I know specifically a guy who did that too. And the drums still aren't knocking. This was like at least like seven years ago. Like right when I started my solo project. He played a show. This was like at least like seven years ago. Like right when I started my solo project. He played a show. I played a show in Vail. And I was still kind of figuring out

what I wanted the Maddie project to look like. He definitely pulled me aside in the green room afterwards and was like, your music is amazing, but those transitions were trash. Yeah. He's like honest, but those transitions were trash. Yeah. He wasn't like a loving one.

He's like honest, but it's not like mean. No, yeah, it wasn't mean. I honestly appreciated it. He was like, bust open your laptop. Like, let me see like what you're doing. And like gave me some tips.

That's the fact that he would even take the time to do that. Yeah. You don't want to hear that from some loser, but from him, it's cool. Yeah. So he's like, he's seen how far I've come too, which is, it's cool to like, have those's seen how far I've come too Which is

It's cool to like Have those people in your life Where you're like Okay cool Now I Got any haters? You gotta have haters You gotta have some haters

Yeah I mean there's definitely Just like random People online That are just like Do you still have that one stalker? Is that even plugged in? Like what are you even doing You stupid girl Shut the fuck? Is that even plugged in? Like, what are you even doing, you stupid girl?

Shut the fuck up, okay? Is it plugged in? Yeah, go cook them. Have fun at widespread panic, loser. Hey, don't say that. No, just the fans. Not panic themselves. I've just noticed there's a lot of correlation

in a couple of online groups of panic fans not liking DJs. Yeah, it's that scene in particular. Because there are 50. What about... Is there something in the DJ world or... Is saying a DJ world disrespectful? Should I say producer world or EDM world?

Which I say it's the most... It depends on what you're talking about. In your world, do fans just pick one DJ and they say, fuck everyone else? No. They definitely gravitate towards... It's kind of like

clicky. There's clicks of certain sounds and stuff. They have their crew. They'll have the one like Wakhan or whatever. They all look like Stranger, but if you're also on Wakhan, they got their Wakhan pashmina and their hoodie and they're in it to you're also on Wakhan, they got their Wakhan pashmina and their hoodie and they're in it to win it. What's a pashmina?

It's like the hippie scarf thing. I see a lot of dudes wearing those. They put it over their head and shit. They think they look so cool, but they don't. They look like they gaslight women at Whole Foods. Jesus Christ. You didn't say shit, Matty. Don't worry. I am in Switzerland right now.

Right here. Tweet me. At Nicholas Gerlach. No, just Nicholas Gerlach. No, you changed it? Yeah, just Twitter, yeah. Some Pashminas are cool. No, I know. I'm just kidding. Hey, it's a fucking fun podcast.

It's a fun podcast. We're having fun. What happened to your stalker? She's successful. We can cut this out if you don't want to talk about him. She's a stalker? A bad one. He was coming up to me at shows.

I was actually pretty scared. Can we talk about this? Yeah. What happened? We won't say his name or anything. This kid was like... He lived in Denver for a while. He was waiting for me outside of shows that he thought I would be going to

and following my friends around at a certain point. He showed up at the mall one time while I was shopping, popped out of a corner. Because you probably posted you were there or some shit. No, I have no idea how he knew I was there. He would come up to me because I used to play in her live band. When she did live band, I would play with you sometimes. And he'd be like, hey, Nick, have you seen Maddie?

He was really quiet, which is weirder as a stalker. So how did you get him to shoo away? Carefully. It was careful at first. I tried to get a restraining order, actually. It was that bad? Yeah.

I was just scared. Was he sending you letters? What was he doing? He was just harassing me online, harassing everyone in my life, would post things about me online that were totally not true. He just obviously didn't have it all together outside of this.

He was like, had screws loose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he was like, this guy could do some really weird shit. On some level, you feel bad for him, too, because it's definitely not all his fault. Yeah, yeah. He doesn't live around here anymore. No, he moved to...

Somewhere else. Let's not say where. Yeah, somewhere else. But he actually just re-emerged on like Twitter the other day. And was like, follow my OnlyFans. Okay, I'm definitely following that. How much is it? I don't know.

What is he just... Is that a write-off? Is he just naked listening to bass music or what? I don't know. He was just naked listening to bass music? I don't know. He was super weird. He freaked everybody out. What was the craziest thing where you finally said, I need a restraining order?

He put up a post talking about how someone that I worked with raped me or something. What? Online, yeah. And I was like, what the fuck is this kid doing? This is so insane. Not that anybody I was like, what the fuck is this kid doing? Like, this is so insane. Like, not that anybody followed him or believed what he said. But I was just like... But it's still fucking weird.

He was like, he had my phone number somehow and was like leaving me really random. I have like voicemails probably on my phone. You should put it like a producer tag. You can play it at the end of the podcast. It's like you can put it like backwards on the track

so like you know how they have secret tracks. You're just doing like some fucking... I saw you looking at Liz Claiborne blouses at JCPenney, Maddie. I was watching you. The shit that he would say was like, it didn't even make sense. That's why it was scary. It was like, why did you have to sell me those solar panels yeah and i was like what the fuck are you talking

that's a little scarier than i want to beat you up i don't know right it's like because i'm like what is going on in this guy has no clue where yeah exactly that's scarier than like i want to kill you yeah that's almost like all right at least i know where you're at yeah you know what i mean for sure i don't know you're, but I know what you're trying to do. Yeah. And you're speaking in coherent sentences. Yeah. So.

Wow. What about like dudes? He was pretty short though. You could have kicked his ass, I think, if he would have ever actually tried to attack you. Yeah.

I could probably kick his ass. What about like dudes loving you and getting in your DMs? Do you have dudes sliding into your DMs? Do you have dudes sliding into your DMs not knowing that you're in love? Yeah.

Here and there. Open up your... Once you crack it open. It's more random DMs from the opposite sex. You're downplaying yourself. You girls love you. They're in my DMs.

Yeah, yeah. But like... I'm definitely third, I think, out of... I just ignore them. Yeah, you ignore them. You know? Yeah, don't even leave them on read. Leave that on delivered.

Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Especially if they're like extra creepy. I'm just like, okay. What's the creepiest thing? I'm just going to go out and pretend like you didn't say that. Right.

Have you ever gotten... Oh, were they that... They get creepy like that? I mean... Sexually creepy. They say like, you're so this or that. There's been a couple people that were like... Comment on your body and stuff?

Can I send you a dick pic or something? And I was like, no. But at least they ask first. Yeah. Some people just do it. But still, I'm like, what gives you that vibe that I want that? You don't ever get unsolicited nudes or anything? No.

Me neither. Damn it. I think I put off a certain air of like... Bro-Neal. Matty Bro-Neal. But still, for dudes, this is why I don't understand dudes. Men are fucking insane. Unsolicited dick pic. You have to worry about an unsolicited dick pic

Just to play fucking music Or do anything It is a crime Yeah we know Nick I'm talking about to the people listening I don't understand how people do that There's so many men that do that It's like that is a crime

I think that A lot more of the female DJs that put themselves out there in a more sexual way get a lot more of that than I do. That's kind of part

of why I don't do that too. I don't want it to be a super sexually inviting people to think of me in that way. I don't want it to be super sexually inviting people to think of me in that way. I want people to be respected for my craft. Matty Broneal. But then you're just saying that

for people to respect your craft, you have to be a male. No, I'm just saying. She's a chill vibe. That's also something that I've dealt with over the years too. I shouldn't have to be...

I can be sexy if I want to. It shouldn't mean that I'm any less respected. I just know how people's brains work. And that's what I'm talking about. That was the first question I brought up with the whole male this male industry.

Yeah. Of like, are they giving you the time of day if you weren't being like, what's up, brother? How you doing? You know, like, what's going on? Like, can you be... Hey there, yay. You want arm wrestling right now, brother? I'd kick your ass if I wanted to.

It's like, that's what I was trying to get at with that. Yeah, for sure. It's like, you're right. if I wanted to. That's what I was trying to get at with that. You're right. Why not be fucking sexy and why not be beautiful because fucking women are fucking beautiful. Why can't they

flaunt like that? I think that where I'm at in my career now, in the beginning, I felt like I had to prove myself to a certain point where I felt more free to do whatever I wanted and not have to worry

about people thinking my reputation can precede me kind of vibe. And I think that's where I'm at now, which is like, it's cool to know that I've been at this for like 12 years and feel like I have a pretty good reputation. You were telling me this story and I was cracking the fuck up about Coachella. How you were like, it was kind of like your spinal tap moment where you couldn't get to the fucking stage or something.

Oh, Nick, you got to hear this. Tell this story. This is like fucking Coachella. Probably one of the biggest gigs of your life, right? Just like status wise, you know? So tell us this story. I played in Boulder the night before. It was like 420.

So I had to fly in the day of. And I think my set was at like 5 o'clock or something. Scary, by the way. That's scary. Yeah, it's scary. Like the biggest, like Coachella. So I had a super early flight. We flew into Santa Ana and had to drive like four hours down to Indio.

There was like so much fucking traffic on the way down there. Like we were already way behind. Literally didn't realize how crazy Coachella is to even like get inside the festival. Like there was just like red, like all the way around. Really? Buses trying to get in. You have to go get your credentials in one parking lot and then you had to get back in the car

and go over to the other place. Take three golf carts just to get to my stage. Anyway, I was freaking out the whole time because the minutes were just going by. I was like, I might miss this set. I was yelling at Frost. I was like, do I just get set. Oh, man. I was yelling at Frost.

I was like, do I just get out and walk? What the fuck do I do right now? God, that'd be so frustrating. I showed up maybe less than 10 minutes before I was supposed to go on stage. Sweating my ass off. Thank God you're a DJ.

I was wearing leather shorts. USB, bitch. Here we go. Well, no, that was the Maddie set. I had to set up my drum pads and shit. USB, bitch. Here we go. Well, no, that was the Maddie set. Oh, the real set. Yeah, so I had to set up my drum pads and shit. But yeah, Frost makes fun of me because he's like,

that was the most diva I've ever seen you. You were like, where's my helicopter? Next time I do this, Frost, I'm going to need a heli to the private. And I'm not playing fucking Boulder for the 27th fucking time before Coachella.

Okay, thank you. Did you get booked kind of last second or was it? It was really, it was like less than a month away. Okay, so you already had the Boulder gig. Yeah, okay. The stage that I played at Coachella is called the Doolab stage. And they like, they're kind of separate from the main lineup. They like drop their own lineup

way later and it's a lot of surprise guests from people that are actually on it's mostly electronic right on that yeah but it's kind of like

the underground electronics cool people stage yeah this is the stage have you played Coachella no

I haven't it's pretty crazy yeah it is crazy it's like way cooler than I thought it was I feel like the internet makes it feel like makes it to be like influencers everywhere It's like way cooler than I thought it was. I feel like the internet makes it feel like it's... Makes it to be like

influencers everywhere. Is it out in the middle? It's like out in the middle of nowhere, right? It's like near Palm Springs. Oh, okay, okay, okay. It's like Indio. So it's not super hot there.

Oh, God, it's so hot. It's pretty fucking hot. Yeah. It's a desert. Yeah, it's a desert. And then, you know, I grew up in LA, so that was like the...

Oh, yeah. That was the proper... That's the Mecca of festivals. It was his summer camp I always forget He grew up in LA Yeah yeah yeah One of the rare people

That actually grew up there Like the locals of LA Are cool You know It's just the transplants That sometimes move out there That do the social media shit Denver has that

On a small scale They're like This is what we're supposed To do in LA right Yeah Exactly I thought I was supposed To be a massive piece of shit here

And be really shallow No you can just be a massive piece of shit here and be really shallow. No, you can just be a Dodgers fan. You can actually chill. Yeah. You can just like the Dodgers. I want to talk about music, if you don't mind. We've been talking about everything else. So you make records.

Well, how do you, what's your mind state going into the next album circle? Like, how do you inspire your brain to keep not going back to the well and doing things you used to do? This new record you have is very different. I listened to it yesterday when you texted it to me. I'm like, it's very different than the last record. What keeps you driven to keep doing different shit?

So I have a new EP coming out, Plug. It's called Mind Over Matter. It's coming out in September. I put out my first single last month and the next one

comes out next week, I think. But this record is definitely more geared to like a live show

environment. More of like four dance floors rather than to listen to. more geared to like a live show environment. Yeah. More of like four dance floors rather than to listen to. I think my last record was definitely very eclectic in terms of vibes. And I think that's the cool thing about writing a full length album is you can kind of stretch a little bit further and do weirder, different stuff that, you know,

some people might just want to listen to and it'll never see a stage. But yeah, this EP, I definitely, I'm like,

I'm playing all these huge shows. I want to make like a record that I can see myself playing in front of those audiences. What? Are you already playing

the tunes live or do you save them for the album? Yeah, I'm playing them live. Well, two of them I've tested out. I used to do the opposite and then someone else told me you don't tease them so that people are waiting for it to drop.

I'm like, oh, that's smart. Hold on, what do you mean? Like teasing songs before you put them out. Like on the set? Like let's say you have a banger hook or something. Yeah, just like testing out songs when they're like half done or whatever. So that by the time it comes

out, people are like, oh, that's that. And you know stuff to take out too, maybe? Like, oh, that didn't really work live. It's not going to work on the album. So do you do that a lot? Do you like tease hooks and shit into your sets that you're working on for newer shit? Yeah. I mean, like I'll play like a version before it into your sets that you're working on for newer shit? Yeah. I mean, like I'll play like a version before it's finished.

Have you ever had one where like, damn, this drop's going to be sick and everyone's like, whoa. Yeah, actually. What was the best one? I don't remember. I mean, it's hard to tell because sometimes I feel like if you put the crowd into a trance, it doesn't necessarily mean that they're not liking it. Oh, that's a great manner. You know what I mean?

That's kind of how manner looks at it. Yeah. I feel like a lot of my music has that effect on a crowd. Just because they're not starting a mosh pit doesn't mean they're not digging your song. Yeah, you're also not up not like a douche on stage. That helps too. I don't know. I've tried to be less

sensitive about crowd reactions because whatever. Wow. You already got paid. I never make eye contact with the front row anymore Oh yeah Menert was like a big influence on you right?

Yeah he was huge What do you like about Menert That inspires you? He was always just like Totally True to himself In like every way possible Even if it meant that he took 13 people out

in a band. Whether it makes him lose thousands of dollars or not. Yeah, he was like a crusade for being genuine. No matter how much money he lost, no matter how much. He's also one of the best people at sampling I've ever met in my life. Yes, for sure. He's a guru of the best people at sampling I've ever met in my life. Yes, for sure. Yeah, he's a guru in the sampling world.

He's the best. Who are your tops? Like for sampling? Yeah, sampling. What's your Mount Rushmore for producers? There's like so many people, but like the people that inspired me, like the OGs.

Yeah. I mean, Bonobo was definitely one of them. Yeah. He's amazing. Have you met him? He's incredible. I haven't. I just took a slot. One of the best live bands in electronic music too, I think. Yeah, definitely. And like RJD too and like

who else from like that world oh DJ Shadow those were all like early sampling kind of like gods you know like the indie hip hop kind of yeah totally so those are the people I initially got into

but now there's like too many to to name some of my favorites right now this group Memba. Memba? It's like these two guys. They're very like trappy.

Yeah. And kind of like tribally influenced. But they're just like doing some really cool stuff right now. I'm actually playing with them in New York. Sick. Where are they from? You don't know? I don't know.

That's all right. I think they might be from LA. You don't have to know. Yeah. I don't understand why more American DJs don't tour? I don't know. That's all right. I think they might be from LA. You don't have to know. I don't understand why more American DJs don't tour in Europe more. I mean, it's such a fucking huge community. Because our electronic music is different, I think, right? Yeah, it's like house and techno in Europe.

Oh, really? So what about your new house set? I know. Phil's going in. Madhouse. I got this. Phil, what the fuck? You don't want her to do the house set.

And now she's killing it. He's busy bringing pretty lights back right now. I got this. Phil, what the fuck? You don't want her to do the house set. And now she's killing it. He's busy bringing pretty lights back right now. I don't care. You better spend some fucking time on her career too, Phil. Shit. Shit. He's got the biggest thing in Denver to happen since Dead & Co two months ago. Yeah.

That is pretty massive. How hard is it to ask Phil to say, hey, get me on those pretty light shows? So they're not doing any support. Yeah, so it makes it easy. That's smart. Yeah, it makes his life real easy. It's like, fuck, all my bands are good. We sold 80,000 tickets in 45 seconds.

We're not going to be having any support on our show. 45 seconds? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But on the low, low low I may be doing Some afties Some afties We gotta do Louis bag in the making baby Buy me a bag

Buy me a little bag Yeah your stalker ain't gonna go to Louis Now there's a security guard right in the door Don't let this peasant in here while I check out my Louis It's like pretty woman It's like the shopping scene in pretty woman It's like the shopping scene in Pretty Woman. It's like the shopping scene in Pretty Woman. Jesus Christ.

You can buy me a bag. What about, how hard was it to pick six songs? How many songs did you write for this new EP? It's actually four songs. Four songs. But yeah, there was a lot in the mix for sure.

Like how many? Maybe like, probably like eight. I cut it in half. Why did you decide a four song EP? I just put out a 10 track LP last fall. And I think that I wanted to give people like smaller... Doses. Yeah, just like I wanted to

especially because of the vibe of this record, it's more like live. I wanted to trickle out singles over the summer and then move on and do some remixes and other singles and start working on my next record for the fall. You're just fucking putting

your motherfucking machine out here. I love it, Matt. Dude, it's killer. Thanks. What do you like better, being solo or playing with a band? I like both. I mean, I've only done the band thing a couple times. Yeah, you don't do it a ton.

I've seen you play with a drummer. Yeah. But I'm like a full band, though, not that much. Yeah, I only did it like twice. You opened for, uh, at Mission. Who'd you open for at Mission? Opio. Opio. But who was the other sick? They were like my favorite producers. Cone Sound.

God damn. Yeah, they're so good. Yeah, yeah. Uh, yeah, I did like a It was Briscoe on Turntables. Yeah. Drew Burch. Yep. Guitar. Colby. Drums. Mm-hmm. That was that one. Yep. So It was Briscoe on turntables, Drew Burch, guitar, Colby, drums. That was that one.

So... Yeah, I did. Ro Niko. That's our queen. That's our queen. Arby's coming back up. There she is. That's our girl. Arby's coming back up.

So, for this... It's really fun. I want to do it more and more, but it's expensive. You can't do it more and more But It's expensive I can't buy a Louis Just buy a Louis bag Every three musicians You can name each Louis bag

A band member There you go This is John on bass This is Mike on the drums This is Sarah This is Sarah I have a girl in my band This is

Yeah this is Sarah This is This is This is Every weekend you take a musician out It's a Louis Vuitton bag You could have bought Bought Bought This is Sarah This is This is Every weekend you take a musician out It's a Louis Vuitton bag you could have bought Yeah Bought

It's great Yeah We're just so proud of you Thank you And I think you're a fucking badass And you deserve Shit I'm just kidding

We're just You've been working You've been working your ass off for so long And I just I'm just I'm stoked when the homies make some money So it's good Yay Alright Go home Go chill out I know you got other shit to do I've been pulling your ass off for so long and I'm just stoked when the homies make some money. Go home.

Go chill out. I know you got other shit to do. I'm actually going to hang out with my mom today. Oh, your mom. Is she proud of you? Yeah. Did she ever try to get you to not do music? I don't feel like she did. She didn't get me to try to not do it,

but she was definitely scared. Because your parents are like geniuses, right? Yeah, my dad went to Harvard What the fuck And your brother's all smart too He just had a kid, right? So my mom's actually moving to Madrid Spain? In two weeks

With my brother and his fiance For what? To be their nanny What's he doing there? Spain? In two weeks with my brother and his fiance. For what? He got a job there? To be their nanny. What's he doing there? She's a lawyer. She got like a full ride scholarship to get her international law degree. Holy shit.

That's going to be a little different than Wyoming. My mom's like, I'm retired. She's like, you're not taking my grandchild to Spain. She's like, I'm coming with you. And I get to live in Spain. So she's about to move. That's where I'm going to go. I love it. Hang out with her. That's the best. We'll have some family time.

Go chill out. I'm glad everyone's proud of you. I'm glad everyone loves you. I feel very supported and loved, especially by Denver. Can you go out in Denver now without getting recognized all the time?

I like Denver. Can you go out in Denver now without getting recognized all the time? No. Depends on what show I'm in. But I don't go out nearly as much as I used to. Me, Mr. Social Butterfly. That's why you don't have a Louis Vuitton? Just drinking with the fans.

You'd be afforded to be. That's why I have Balenciaga. Poor man's Louis. Oh my God. You can be afforded to be. That's why I have Balenciaga. Poor man's Louie. Oh my God. You can only afford Balenciaga. It's the young boy's Louie. It's the young boy's Louie Vuitton. There we go.

Oh my God. All right, we got to go. Goodbye. Have a good day. Love you. We're getting cancer after this. Later. God bless America.

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