Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 236: Logan Rex (Artikal Sound System)

Episode Date: September 12, 2023

Can you feel it? A certain je ne sais quoi is in the air... It's time for Ahri Findling to reveal just how really feels about Larry David. Andy & Nick talk their usual game and you know what? It's a...lways a pleasure to eaves drop on these ding-dongs. But! We got Logan Rex from Artikal Sound System on the Interview Hour, and boy howdy it gets SPICY. We're talking about the trials & tribulations of being a woman on the road with some men and the politics of p00ping. You'll love it, I promise it. That's a World Saving GUARANTEE.  Watch this episode streaming now!! Psyched to partner up with our buddies at Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. Call, leave a message, and tell us how you really feel: (720) 996-2403  Check out our new album!, L'Optimist on all platforms Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out our good friends that help us unwind and sleep easy while on the road and at home: dialedingummies.com Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Arno Bakker Ahri Findling

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Who I'd Go Gay For Curb Your Enthusiasm on HBO. He's very funny. And I want to suck his d***, okay? He's f***ing got a billion dollars. He's bald. He's got glasses. He's not classically hot, okay? He's really not hot at all, but he's funny. And that's what people don't understand. They underestimate how attractive humor is, okay? And you know that when I would suck his or, uh, you know, he'd probably say that was pretty, pretty,
Starting point is 00:00:52 pretty, pretty good. All right. This has been the first edition of who I'd go gay for Larry David. I love you. And we're back. Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco.
Starting point is 00:01:13 This is my co-host. Feels very informal right now for some reason. You know what I'm talking about? I know. I got my co-host, one of my best friends. He is my best friend. Top 30. You are one of my best friends. Every day you have a new best friend.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Nick Gerlach. Welcome back. He's one of my besties too. By the definition of the term OG, there's a picture of you guys in sixth grade. Just vibing. You're a foot and a half taller than him. Beacon of sports.
Starting point is 00:01:42 I went to my first Phish concert. It does feel like sports a little bit. It felt like I was in college and everyone's tailgating, but instead of natty nights, they're just ripping a shit ton of nitrous. There was a lot. I feel like nitrous
Starting point is 00:01:58 has gotten more prevalent. Dude, I didn't understand. There was like 100 people selling nitrous tanks at the lot. It's turning into the drug of choice and it's weird. I did it for two days straight and the last two days, like the two days of recovery, I was so...
Starting point is 00:02:14 That food grade Arby's? Yeah, that food... You can get this shit from the back of Arby's. I get my gas from the back of Arby's. That's the biggest headache. I felt so stupid. I'm like, I'm... You gotta do the
Starting point is 00:02:25 dentist stuff how do you get the dentist stuff you gotta know a dentist gotta know anyway but back to fish um back to fish um we took todd glass yeah he looked didn't like he seemed like he liked it that much he wasn't into it that's fine he likes paul anka you know what i mean like like it's not for it's funny cause they're like his age. Right. So I think it's not really like, it's just like, it's not like he's too old for it.
Starting point is 00:02:50 We were all like planning. All right, we're going to take some mushrooms. We're going to get there and see the vibe. Then I think he just got overwhelmed. There's like 20,000 people. It's just not his style of music. He's the comedians don't like jams that much,
Starting point is 00:03:01 or they really love it. But like, it's just like they, cause like it makes sense. Cause of what they write, they don't jam reallyams that much or they really love it. But like, it's just like, they, because like, it makes sense because of what they write. They don't jam really. Really good stand-up comedians.
Starting point is 00:03:10 It looks like they're jamming if they're good at it, but like everything's very thought out and prepared. And that's what they like. That's why I like a lot of country music or a lot of comedians, I think,
Starting point is 00:03:18 are like into country music. Right. It's kind of like writing, you know. But that's fine. Like everybody can like their thing, you know what I mean? Right. I think Vinny was having a good time I thought it was fun
Starting point is 00:03:30 The lights are insane That's what I was going to say The whole process The whole business side It was a well-oiled machine From ticketing We got the tickets Shout out to Mike Gordon
Starting point is 00:03:43 Thanks for letting us in I really appreciate it. Thanks, Mike. Thanks, Mike. We got, when we got the tickets, it was from Phish. It wasn't from Ticketmaster. I mean, everything is like a self-sufficient machine. They have their own, they all, they make their own t-shirts.
Starting point is 00:03:59 You can make a solid argument. They're the most like impressive business in the music industry. It's pretty impressive. What they've done and how much money they keep in-house. Someone told me this. I don't know for sure. They make all their own merch. They have their own merch company.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Imagine how much money they save. Everything is their employee. Which means their employees probably get treated better. Which means everyone's happier. Which means you get a better product. Which means yada, yada, yada. I told Schwartz, we're taking out the middleman. We're doing the fish model. He didn't like that because he's
Starting point is 00:04:33 a manager. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, chill, chill, chill. You guys don't have enough money to do that yet. Yeah, that's what he said. You're not there yet, Frasco. It takes money to do that. I'm like, I want to start my own ticketing company. I want to have my own merch company. No, you don't need your own ticketing company. That's the last thing you need is live nation. Maddie,
Starting point is 00:04:47 you're not famous enough for live nation to be mad at you. I built this excommunicated. Okay. Career over. Have fun in real estate, bitch. But it was fun. You know,
Starting point is 00:04:57 I was like, I, it's not my thing. It's not necessarily my thing either, but sometimes it is. It depends on like, there's so many like fish is like there. It's like one of those things where it's like they my thing either, but sometimes it is. It depends. There's so many, like, Phish is like, it's like one of those things where it's like, they can play everything, which can be a blessing and a curse.
Starting point is 00:05:11 You know what I mean? Of course, everyone, all the heady, heady Phish fans are like, oh man, you went Thursday, man. They really killed it on Friday and Saturday. Yeah, yeah. Which they might be right. I mean, you're not going to be the same quality every night. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I thought they were fine, though. For me, everything just depends on what Phishman's doing on drums. Oh, which they might be right. I mean, you're not going to be the same quality every night. Right. I thought they were fine, though. For me, everything just depends on what Fishman's doing on drums. Oh, yeah. Not that it's bad. It's just like a choice. It's like when he's banging like a nice backbeat, I definitely like it more than when it's like free jazz. But I like a little free jazz too. The light show was amazing. It sounded unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:05:39 The mix is incredible. I can't believe that four guys can have that much power. We don't give enough credit to fucking sound guys. Shout out to sound guys because like, Jason, we love you. To be fair, that all starts with the band though. We don't give enough credit to the shit in, shit out, bro.
Starting point is 00:05:56 True, true, true. Yeah, but no, you're right though. And that's hard to, gotta be hard to mix. It's not like a music venue. Yeah, and like having only a four-piece band to play for 20,000 people was pretty neat. Shout out to them just like putting on a four-hour, three-hour venue. Yeah, and like having only a four-piece band to play for 20,000 people was pretty... Shout out to them just like putting on a four-hour,
Starting point is 00:06:08 three-hour show. Yeah. Four nights in a row. Yeah, true. A lot. Also, shout out to the fans. And shout out,
Starting point is 00:06:15 we've got a quiz. No, shout out to the fans. You know like, you know when you go to a show and it's like a lot of dancey show and you could smell the BO and you could tell
Starting point is 00:06:23 what type of... It wasn't that bad. Oh God. It wasn't bad. It was bad, but it was like a rich BO dances show and you could smell the B.O. and you could tell what type of... Oh, God. It wasn't bad. It was bad, but it was like a rich B.O. You know, like rich people B.O.? It's like difference in crusty B.O.?
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not even patchouli. It's like, you know, like when you go to the dentist's office and he's like working hard on your teeth for like an hour and a half. He starts sweating. He starts smelling his B.O.
Starting point is 00:06:40 In their defense, it was like 95 degrees out all day and shit. I don't think you're hearing me out here. Everyone B.O.'s. I'm saying there's a crusty B.O like 95 degrees out all day and shit. I don't think you're hearing me out here. Everyone BOs. I'm saying there's a crusty BO. Like if you go to a disco biscuit show or if you go to like a reggae show, it's a little bit crustier smelling.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Yeah, like when you go to like a Whites for a Panic show or what Pigeon's playing ping pong. Yeah. I wonder if the BO scent in our fan base, because it's just all alcohol. They're just sweating out all the alcohol. But I did respect it because it was a really
Starting point is 00:07:10 clean BO. Yeah, like they've been just outside all day. Yeah, they're just like doctors and lawyers and they take care of themselves. You start seeing rich people sweat differently? What I'm saying is they're just well kept. I've never had BO in my life It's a rich fan base
Starting point is 00:07:27 I guess I met a lot of doctors I met a lot It's also Well it's just so big That it's got everything Right There's poor people there
Starting point is 00:07:34 Of course Who do you think those people Laying on the ground Selling nitrous balloons were You think they're They weren't at the show You think they're in finance Andy They're just
Starting point is 00:07:41 They're making money off the doctors Yeah but they're still in the fan base True Just cause you can't get in doesn't mean you're not a fan Respect so shout out to everyone who has Crested B.O. as well We're here for you We don't segregate B.O. Do you ever get B.O.?
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah But I keep clean I don't smell that bad Sometimes my breath smells because I smoke so much cigarettes But I try to keep my body clean Julie says I've never smelled bad in the 10 years we've been together Really? because I smoke so much cigarettes. Yeah. But I try to keep my body clean. Julie says I've never smelled bad in like the 10 years we've been together. Really?
Starting point is 00:08:08 It's like her thing. She always says that. Oh. I shower every day. You shower? No matter what. Really? Usually right when I get up.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Sometimes I don't shower. I have to. It's like I can't do stuff unless I shower sometimes. If I don't have the right conditioner or shampoo. I could never do trivia without showering first. It's just like I can't think right Really?
Starting point is 00:08:26 Yeah, or like on stage in general Sometimes I like when we have an all night drive And we have a show the next day, an early show I'll just let it ride It feels like I earned it There's something to that The road's a little different Because you're like in Vietnam or whatever
Starting point is 00:08:43 You know what I mean? But yeah, Fish was tight. I kind of wish I would have won it. Maybe one of the other nights too. And they get the merch money. But I'm glad I saw it. And I'm glad like, I understand why people fucking go ape shit crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:56 They care. It is a great show. They really care. It's just not my thing. Yeah, it's fine. That's for sure. Yeah, actually. But speaking of fan bases,
Starting point is 00:09:04 we have a reggae band in the in the scene logan rex is on the show this week she was very not forthcoming she she was nervous she's because i mean we know her so well that she thought we're gonna just like blast her on our podcast but we're not we love her no i like her actually she likes me more than you i think you know oh yeah logan rex she um she's the singer on everything bagel but she's an amazing band called article sound system she's on the recording of everything bag Rex, she's the singer on Everything Bagel, but she's in an amazing band called Article Sound System. Oh, she's on the recording of Everything Bagel. Yeah, she's the girl singer. Okay. I haven't listened to it yet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Jesus Christ. I come out to all your fucking... I go out to all your trivia. I do everything to support you. Yep. And you don't do shit for me. I don't do anything for you. I'm going to remember that next time I'm drafting your fantasy football team. No, you really helped me.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I was so nervous. I'm so calm in drafts. You are. You're prepared. I just know. You're prepared. I don't really get excited in general, so it's fun to have me in there. Have you ever been excited in your life? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Like what? What's the most excitement you've ever had in your life? Yeah. Like what? What's like the most excitement you ever had in your life? Oh, maybe when the guy from Smash Mouth died or... I'm just kidding. I just heard about that. I'm just kidding. He did die though. How? Liver. Liver failure? No, that's like the official thing.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Didn't he like go ape shit? Yeah, he was like doing nasty salutes at like a fucking kids festival last year. We can make fun of him. I don't like anyone to die. I'm not wishing death on anyone, but don't do Nazi salutes at your fucking show. Yeah, and it wasn't like the Grand Rapids Day Fest. It wasn't like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:37 Not that it's better if you do it in your club show, but it's a little different. There's eight-year-olds there. I thought he did Sturgis, too. Yeah. I'm not going to make fun of Sturgis. Man, a lot of people... Yeah,-year-olds there. I thought he did Sturgis, too. Yeah. I'm not going to make fun of Sturgis. Man, a lot of people... Yeah, don't fuck with that. I'm too scared of those people. Yeah, yeah. Shout out to the Hells Angels. Sturgis seems awesome, man. Actually looks like a
Starting point is 00:10:54 really cool town with good people up there. My dad was so sad when Jimmy died. Really? Oh, your dad's a boomer. They love... Why do boomers love... He's like the boomer dream, actually. It's the idea of the American dream for the boomer they love why do boomers love he's like the boomer like dream actually it's the i it's the idea of the american dream for the boomer all right but he is like the ultimate boomer white guy like that's him i mean think about it it'd be tight to live songs about nothing cheeseburgers
Starting point is 00:11:16 yeah it's basically about nothing you know what i mean no i mean pirate turns 40 is about growing old i know but you know what i mean like it's not... You know what I'm saying. The music's pretty... It's pretty much easy listening, right? Yeah, it's sweet. The guy... And then he's like, I'm going to open a restaurant. He's a billionaire, too. He's an investing billionaire. Flying his plane around. He's like every boomer white guy's dream, basically, is to be him.
Starting point is 00:11:37 It's my dream, too. I'm not making fun of him. I'm just saying. You sound a little judgy. Yeah, well, maybe. A little judgy. It's a podcast. I feel like Todd, if we called Todd right now, he'd be pissed. I'm allowed to have an opinion. I don't have to think he's the best ever. I mean, the music
Starting point is 00:11:54 isn't exactly... True. I mean, that's how I feel about Phish. I mean, it's cool. Exactly. But, you know, it's like... I don't know. They're more like the Gen X dream though, I guess. What's the Gen X dream? The 50s, you know, people in their 50s. What's their dream? Just being like,
Starting point is 00:12:07 not be famous, but be rich. Oh, like, like you don't want to be cool. They want to be cool. Gen X thinks they're cool still. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:15 But they're not. They're like 50s and they're 50s with like two kids in high school. But they like still think they're cool because like Nirvana was popular when they were in high school. While we're stereotyping generations,
Starting point is 00:12:23 what about millennials? What's their dream? Corniest. They're the corniest generation. Why? You think I'm corny? Yes, for sure. And also, just millennials in general are just corny as fuck.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Yeah, I love that. Everything they make is corny. All their little dog videos where they talk over it and do the voice and just writing songs about their dogs. You know what I'm saying? Live your bliss. Gen Z, we'll see. They're still too young to judge.
Starting point is 00:12:43 You got to wait until people are in their... The younger generations are getting cooler. They're not really like... They're getting cooler, but they're still just as much a trash as any other generation. Jesus Christ. Get on TikTok and read the comments.
Starting point is 00:12:52 They got tons of people that are just like... By who? Gen... Yeah, just like... There's just as many weirdos and religious freaks and racists in that generation. Who do you think raised them?
Starting point is 00:13:03 Every generation's bad. God. Do you think raised them? Every generation's bad. God. Do you have any hope? Do you have any hope for the future? Okay, I'm not saying every generation's bad. Let me put it this way. There's not going to be some good generation that comes on
Starting point is 00:13:19 that's all of a sudden way better than every other generation before them and changes the world. It's going to be a slow process. Yes, when the aliens start going public. Here comes the aliens. I'm telling you. When the aliens come. Gen X kind of gets funny, though, because they kind of get in the past.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Because everybody makes fun of boomers and the older than them, like Biden, you know? Yeah. And you don't really hear people dogging on Gen X yet. And it's maybe because They didn't ruin everything like the boomers did Like financially Boomers ruined the economy for everyone after them Who's more obnoxious Gen X or millennials?
Starting point is 00:13:52 Oh millennials for sure Are you Gen X or millennials? I think I'm like a late millennial You're a millennial I'm barely a millennial But I know a lot of Gen X people And a lot of them definitely think they're grunge and cool still
Starting point is 00:14:06 but it's like no you are at Discovery Zone you're at a Chuck E. Cheese birthday party okay dude by the way we had Fish fans rent the house I'll tell you this story in a second it's amazing they found out it was my house and they Instagrammed me I'll tell you this story in a second. It's too dark? No, no. It's amazing. Okay, okay. They invited me.
Starting point is 00:14:25 They found out it was my house and they Instagram me. Hey, I'm renting your house right now on Airbnb. Do you want to come over and party? And I came over by myself at like 1 a.m. and partied with them and ripped some nitrous. I fell asleep on the couch. It was like my couch. You crashed a party at your own house?
Starting point is 00:14:42 Yes, I did. Maybe you need rehab. They were cool. They were like nice fish fans. They were like, this is my 60th show. They were like super rich people. I'm like, this is fucking awesome. And then I did too much nitrous
Starting point is 00:14:59 and I fished out and I fell asleep for a couple minutes. What night was this? Thursday, the only show I went to. That's cool. Yeah. When Todd said he was done for the night. Where were you supposed to stay that night?
Starting point is 00:15:10 I got a hotel. Oh, okay. Like right next to my house. But, you know, I was like, I'm still kind of like high on these mushrooms. We were at the car bar. Did you stay for the whole fish show? What? Did you stay for the whole fish show?
Starting point is 00:15:23 I think we left like halfway through second section. Yeah, no, you definitely didn't leave right at separate because that's kind of when I walked off. Yeah, because we hung out. I tried to bring Todd to the pit, like quick to the pit. All of a sudden, people started swarming us. Yeah. And he got overwhelmed, so we bailed.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Yeah. We bailed to the back. We smoked a joint like on the top next to like the cheeseburgers and the pretzels and shit because he likes his food. He loves to eat. That dude. He loves to eat. Every 20 minutes, he's like, what are we going to eat? It's interesting. Philadelphia guys.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Shout out to everyone who came out to the... We'll do our dialed in plug soon. Shout out to everyone who came to the podcast. Live podcast. Yeah, we did that. That was fucking crushed. Yeah, we're going to do it again, right? We're doing it again, I think in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:16:05 What venue? I don't know yet. Maybe Eddie's Attic or like City Winery. I don't know any of the small venues there. We're debating where we do our next live podcast. So if you guys have any ideas, I'm thinking either Chicago, New York. Chicago would be fun. Atlanta or Philly or Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Buffalo would fuck. I don't know about New York City, honestly. fun. Atlanta or Philly or Buffalo. Buffalo would fuck. I don't know about New York City, honestly. I think that's too convoluted. What if we did it at Garcia's, the Cap Theater? That's different. That's not New York City, though, is it? That's like Westchester or something. That could be cool.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Yeah. So thank you, everyone, for coming out. That was fun. Our guests were good. Yeah. Yeah. It was awesome. It was beautiful.
Starting point is 00:16:43 So shout out to the podcast. Shout out to Dialed and Gummies we sold a lot of tickets we sold a shit ton of tickets and uh you guys would shit your pants if you know what I got paid to do that I'm just kidding
Starting point is 00:16:53 let's go isn't it crazy we're getting paid to like just talk to people on stage now it's not crazy at all I feel like I'm finally reaching
Starting point is 00:17:03 my form before I should be. In fact, I should be getting, we're in our prime right now. No, we're not even close to our prime, dude.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Really? Our prime's coming. We got potential. We still got some growing potential. We don't even, we haven't even started to be a real beef yet. I know. With a podcast?
Starting point is 00:17:19 Just a band. We got to piss someone off. Yeah, we will. But I do love dialed in gummies. So grab yourself some dialed in gummies. Like I was saying, this is the best time to be in Denver. It's fall.
Starting point is 00:17:30 The weather's perfect. The Red Rock shows are just like a little crypt, so you can wear like a sweatshirt. And I just love it. So go get your ass to Denver. And while you're in Denver, go grab some dialed-in gummies. They're the best gummies, edibles, and they have the liquid edible.
Starting point is 00:17:46 They're priced to move, people. Yes. And I think all of our gummies are all sold out, both of ours. Really? Yep. So shout out to everyone. Cherry Limeade. Great Mango. We're running for Indianapolis. Might have to make another run on them bitches.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Fuck yeah, we are. And then shout out to volume.com for letting us do live streams. Hell yeah. Letting us do live streams. They're like front of the bill so we can talk shit in front of people. We should do like an in-studio live stream too,
Starting point is 00:18:13 I think, someday. I was thinking we'd do that in Atlanta because that's where Ben lives. Oh yeah. His studio's there. Or we could do it here too. Or we could do it here. We could do that whenever we want.
Starting point is 00:18:22 There's no limit on how many of those. It'd be cool to be like Funhouse style. If it makes money, we'll just do it a bunch all the time. I love it. Volume.com. The best. They are giving out grants. It is a live stream network where they have shows
Starting point is 00:18:38 and if you're a content creator and you want to be on volume.com, they're giving money to the people who are adding their content to their show. Go to volume.com, they're giving money to the people who are adding their content to their show. So go to volume.com slash creator and see. That's where you don't have to pay the money back, by the way. It's a free money, people. It's in a Perkins loan.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Yeah, this is in Perkins. And shout out to everyone, all the fans who just listened to live streams. The chat at the live stream was bumping. Everyone was hyping it up. Everybody said we should be on jam on radio And I was like I don't know if they really have that kind of money Let's go
Starting point is 00:19:08 You hear that Fink? We're coming for you I should just start coming for Ari Fink I like him too much I could listen to that guy talk for minutes So head to volume.com And go watch all the amazing content That is on that
Starting point is 00:19:24 Every band's on there now And our podcast volume.com and go watch all the amazing content that is on that from every bands on there now. And our podcast, if you want to see our faces and see Nick rocking those fucking glasses every day, you don't take them off. I might buy like four or five more jam band, Tony Soprano over here,
Starting point is 00:19:39 dude. Yeah, bitch. Volume.com. Double ghoul motherfuckers. We're going to have a great week. Um, no, buy tickets to our fall tour. week. Buy tickets to our fall tour.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Buy tickets to our fall tour. Where are you playing this weekend? This weekend, we're at Wormtown. What the fuck is that? I don't fucking know anymore. Pigeons is definitely playing that one, right? No, Neil Francis, Motet. I'm sick.
Starting point is 00:19:58 It'll be fun. Motet's one of my favorites. Yeah, it's a good lineup. They got a new singer. Massachusetts, come on out to Wormtown. You know they got a new singer in the Motet full time? Yeah, she's awesome. I played with her. She used it's a good lineup. They got a new sanger. Massachusetts, come on out to Wormtown. You know they got a new sanger in the motet full time? Yeah, she's awesome. She used to be in that band,
Starting point is 00:20:09 what's it called? Elephant, maybe Revival? Portland. She's from Portland. Yeah, she's badass. And then the following week starts our fall tour, people. So get your tickets. It's going to be amazing. We're starting in Michigan, going to Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Washington, D.C., which is sold out.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Shout out to Washington, D.C. Wow. Burlington, Vermont. Wow. Fairfield, Connecticut. Holy shit. Boston, Massachusetts. Wow.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Woodstock, New York. Fuck. Portland, Maine. Oh, my God. Richmond, Virginia. Wow. One night in Philly. Meh.
Starting point is 00:20:42 I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I love Philly. And two nights in Brooklyn, Oakland. I was going to say that no matter what city you put there. That's the first lake, so grab your tickets while you can. We got Logan Rex on the show. You're going to love her. She's one of our close friends.
Starting point is 00:20:54 She's beautiful. She is, I think, my soulmate, but I don't know. She's Gwen Stefani, basically. She's Florida Gwen. She's our generation's Gwen Stef. We love her. Her band's amazing. She tours with Little Stranger a bunch.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Reggae scene. Reggae. We're going on tour with Iration. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Been on Ted's Excellent Adventure. So, you're going to love this interview. Next week, it is you and I for an hour, buddy.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Oh, God. What if I say the end? We're going to talk about fish again. Why? Let's talk shit about Tom Hamilton for an hour. Who's that? Tom Hamilton. I don't know who that is.
Starting point is 00:21:33 He likes to make fun of the Grateful Dead, but then also being a tribute man to them. Anyway, okay. We're done with talking about that. Article Sound System. Enjoy the show. And we'll catch you next week where Nick and I lose more friends. How's it going, Andy Brasco?
Starting point is 00:22:03 How's it going? Is Rex your last name? Yeah, it's my last name. Give me your first memory Get out Klein and I would watch myself in the reflection, you know? Patsy Cline, cool. That was, that was. You always knew. I wanted to be like a country singer. Yeah, well, I did when I was little and then like, you know, I lost the dream for like a long time. I didn't think that anything would happen musically. I think I just was like, I was pretty much like a housewife. Yeah. You were?
Starting point is 00:22:37 You were married? I wasn't, but I was with this. So you had like a boyfriend that you lived with? Yeah, and I was like. How old are you? I'm 33. Oh, I thought you were like 26. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:22:45 You always know what to say, Nick. I do. Women love me. Yeah, because didn't you move to New York? I thought you were younger, for real. Thank you. I really appreciate that. That's nice of you.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Yeah, I moved to New York. I moved to Brooklyn when I was like 20. Nice. And I like bought this record store from Denver, actually. You bought a record store? I bought a record store. You bought their records?
Starting point is 00:23:06 I bought the records. Okay. Like the whole inventory. How many? Like almost 10,000. You bought 10,000 records? I bought 10,000 records. Well, they were going out of business kind of thing?
Starting point is 00:23:14 They were going out of business. I was like on Molly in bed on eBay looking at records. Hell yeah. And I like had like a little bit of money That I'd inherited from like my grandparents And I like found this like huge lot Out here in Denver And I had a friend who was living out here And I was like go check it out and see if it seems real
Starting point is 00:23:33 But the guy like had violated probation or something And had to go to jail And he had nobody to take over And I just How much was it? It was like $4,000 That was it? Yeah
Starting point is 00:23:44 And I counted them Records weren't that cool 10 years? It was like $4,000. That was it? Yeah. And I counted them. Records weren't that cool 10 years ago. They really weren't. Yeah. They weren't cool 10 years ago. And like everyone around me was like, this is like pretty dumb. And like, what about iPods are cool. And you know.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Did you sell them all? No. Well, so I like moved them into like, I had a loft in the apartment and I would have people like come. I mostly sold online, but people could come and make an appointment. You got your money back, I bet. No. Really? No. I would have people like come, I mostly sold online, but people could come and make an appointment. You got your money back. I bet. No, really?
Starting point is 00:24:06 No, but I was doing like other things that kept me afloat. Right. Like what? Like, well, you know, just like doing,
Starting point is 00:24:14 you know, weed things. You were growing weed. We were like me and like the guy that I was dating at the time. I feel like I'm just, okay, well, um,
Starting point is 00:24:24 so like we had this business, this food delivery business down in South Florida. It had started and I had kind of gotten on board with really early. And it was more like a front for laundering money. And at the time, we lived in Florida. That's what a drug dealer is.
Starting point is 00:24:38 You're a drug dealer. I was a drug dealer. It's cool to be a drug dealer. Drug dealers are fine on this podcast. Yeah, I know. So you sold weed? How much weed were you selling? Well, and I mean, I was just like part of like this like operation, but it would be
Starting point is 00:24:55 like a couple. That's what drug dealers are. It was like a couple hundred pounds like a month would go back and forth between California and Florida. So like you're doing half a million gross in revenue a month roughly back then. I guess so. And it was like crazy because I was like 20. It was like so exciting.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Well, you're probably doing it not retail, so it's probably less than that. Yeah. So you were making money. I mean, not personal. Like the operation was making plenty of money. Yeah. And then it was rolling back into it. And then we moved from New York to California to grow.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And like we were like, let's get vertical. And it was so fun. It really was so fun. You grew weed in California? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I lived in Oroville. It's like outside Chico. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:32 And we lived outside for four months while we were growing. And it was me and 12 of my friends. And we lived on this bald mountaintop. That's a whole thing. Yeah, it's a whole lifestyle. It was really something. And I'd never even camped before. So it was a real...
Starting point is 00:25:46 What did you like about growing weed? I liked being with all my friends. I like growing things. And I love smoking weed. At the time, I was smoking a bunch. So it was... I mean, what's more fun than being with all your pals and getting dirty?
Starting point is 00:26:01 If you were my girlfriend and we shared a one- one bedroom apartment in New York And you said babe I just bought 10,000 vinyls I'd be fucking pissed It wasn't a one bedroom apartment We had room for it It was a drug dealer penthouse It was a drug dealer place
Starting point is 00:26:15 Wow look at you Why'd you quit that? Damn you're like Florida Scarface No I think Scarface is Florida Scarface Oh Florida That whole thing set in Miami Oh shit You're like Florida Scarface Yeah, that's me No, I think Scarface is Florida Scarface Yeah Oh, Florida That's actually Miami That whole thing's set in Miami
Starting point is 00:26:27 Oh, shit Yeah Is that who inspired you to be a drug dealer? Yeah Oh, God When you use those words It didn't ever feel like that Nope, you're dealing drugs
Starting point is 00:26:37 Sorry It just felt like fun Bartenders What is that? What's that one? Air horn, probably It's an air horn Okay It's an air horn Nice Okay, so It just felt like fun. Bartenders? What is that? What's that one? Airhorn probably. It's an airhorn. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:46 It's an airhorn. Nice. Okay, so you steered away from your path. I steered away from the path. You wanted to be a record star. You broke up with that guy, basically. Oh, yeah. That was done.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Yeah. Why'd you break up with him? I just didn't. His penis was too big. I just felt like I realized I joined a band and then I was like, oh, I'm playing this supporting, this is corny, but I felt like I was playing a supporting role in his life and
Starting point is 00:27:11 not, and I was like, oh, I have my own dreams and I could be this. You wanted to get your best actor Oscar. Yes. Actress. That's it. And you're sick of being a supporting actress at the Golden Globes. Yeah, pretty much. But when I joined Article, it felt like it empowered me and then I left. I had $40. And
Starting point is 00:27:28 I had never paid my own bills or taken care of myself. I'd just been a housewife. Yeah, I was a housewife. And it was really good for me. And then I lived in my van for a little bit. Somebody just looked out here and shut a door. He's working on the house.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Oh, okay. Okay. Couple questions You've always wanted You've always wanted It's hard to interview someone you know I know I'm trying not to like I was actually on that other
Starting point is 00:27:59 That No Simple Road podcast talking about the best interviews Is when you don't really know each other Yeah I think so. What beans would you have to spill? That's a frasco. Did you always have this confidence, like alpha confidence when you were a kid? No.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I mean, you know me. I was like a huge nerd. I mean, I still am. But I really didn't have a ton of friends. I read the dictionary. I had a wheelie backpack. Nice. I was a huge loser. What's a wheelie backpack? Like a rolling suitcase that I kept dictionary. I had like a wheelie backpack. Nice. I was like a huge loser.
Starting point is 00:28:25 What's a wheelie backpack? Like a rolling suitcase that I kept. Oh, you had carry-on luggage for your backpack. I was like a flight attendant in the halls of H3. Holy shit,
Starting point is 00:28:32 I would have made fun of you so much. Yeah, well, everyone did. Even though you were good looking? I mean, thank you. It's hard for nerds. You were always hot, huh? I mean, I don't know that I would say that.
Starting point is 00:28:40 You were always hot. You don't get hot in your 30s. Yeah, you've always hot. Come on, fellas. No, I mean, I think I was like a're always hot. You don't get hot in your 30s. Yeah, you've always hot. Come on, fellas. No, I mean, I think I was like a cute little girl. Hot nerd, huh? Jesus. Just you don't see that very often. Yeah. No, I do see it all
Starting point is 00:28:54 the time. I love nerds. Yeah, you're right actually. Those girly nerds are awesome. Librarian vibe? I love it. Yeah. I used to go pick up chicks at the library. They're intimidating. Yeah? Yeah. How? That's a good place to do it I just like see what book they're reading And I like try to get the same book
Starting point is 00:29:10 And sit next to them That's cute But he's like the title's upside down and shit Yeah they like have one copy of everything I can read Were you picked on as a kid? Really? Yeah but not like a poor pity me thing
Starting point is 00:29:21 Like by your brothers or? No just like other kids I think I like went to like a really small school thing. Like by your brothers? No, just like other kids, I think. I went to a really small school, and if you weren't on the inside, there weren't any other options. But I feel like it made me very compassionate, maybe, for other people. I want everyone to feel included,
Starting point is 00:29:37 so I think that I'm very happy it went that way. Yeah, being a nerd's cool. I think so. It is. I think it's the best. Were you a nerd? It could be You could be Some days I was a nerd
Starting point is 00:29:50 I don't know I kind of floated around With everybody Yeah same Were you? I was kind of a nerd I feel like she was cool I was a loner
Starting point is 00:29:55 But you were more of a cool loner I was more of a like Here comes Nick again Yeah But he's funny Let's let him hang out with us You know what I mean? Yeah
Starting point is 00:30:02 Is Boynton Beach Do you mean? Yeah Is Boynton Beach Do you feel like Miami and Boynton Beach Do you see any parallels in LA? In LA? Like LA lifestyle versus Miami lifestyle Where it's like keeping up with the Joneses Everyone had to be like perfect Everyone had to have that white picket fence
Starting point is 00:30:20 That big house Yeah, I mean There's definitely like so much money Like where I grew up There's like a ton of that But I grew up There's like ton of that But I think Miami It's like way worse Cause like the girls
Starting point is 00:30:27 You're from Boyne Beach I'm from Boyne Beach I'm from Delray Like just up the road That's pretty nice I've been to your pad I know I've been to that area
Starting point is 00:30:33 Yeah it's a nice place And I have a very cute Little pad Okay what's more vapid LA or Miami Like who's more Who's more Shallow
Starting point is 00:30:42 I don't know I feel like I can't Speak to it Cause like I mean Miami's like an hour and a half from me and I don't want to like speak for a whole group of people like that. And I don't really know LA that well either.
Starting point is 00:30:51 So, okay. What was that? I mean, I don't have an answer. Generalize people. That's what we do on here. That's why we have podcasts.
Starting point is 00:31:01 We generalize people. We're here to generalize people and make ourselves look bad. All right. God. Save Miami. I're here to generalize people and make ourselves look bad. All right. God. Save Miami. I can't believe I'm here with you two. Miami has better cocaine and LA has...
Starting point is 00:31:12 Well, they're both hot. Yeah. It's like Miami has hotter guys. It's like really good looking people. It's like Miami has hotter guys and LA has hotter girls. I think the LA girls are hotter to me because they're like more natural seeming. Like the work is better. What?
Starting point is 00:31:23 In Miami, I feel like it's like a flex of like to show people you have money and you're like wearing it in your body and face oh okay so you have no trauma
Starting point is 00:31:31 no no trauma you have no drug addiction I can give you some trauma if you want I can find something for you you have no drug addiction no
Starting point is 00:31:37 never been addicted to anything what I mean no boring no so what do you what do you sing about I got put in the
Starting point is 00:31:44 mental hospital I guess there's that Where is that? Yeah When? Like right before my record short Now we're cooking Are you what?
Starting point is 00:31:51 I got put in the mental hospital Here we go Here we go Finally What happened? What you got a job part time there? No I mean I thought at the time
Starting point is 00:31:59 I was like suicidal And so I got Baker acted Why? Why was I suicidal? Yeah like why? Do you think like You didn't know who you were You're like identity crisis Yeah I think that I. Why was I suicidal? Yeah like why? Do you think like you didn't know who you were?
Starting point is 00:32:06 You're like identity crisis? Yeah I think that I think I was like really people pleasing. I was like on a path that like my parents wanted me to be on and
Starting point is 00:32:12 they weren't pressuring me to but I was like oh I want to make my folks happy and because my parents are wonderful wonderful people. What do they do? My dad's a lawyer.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Kind. He's a securities lawyer. Wow real lawyer. A real lawyer. Yeah. Like finance. He's a securities lawyer. Wow, a real lawyer. A real lawyer. Yeah, but... Like finance. Those kinds of securities? Yeah, like the Madoff thing.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That kind of thing. He didn't do the Madoff case. He might be lower upper. Madoff? He's saying I might be lower upper. Maybe not upper middle. I don't have a barometer.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I don't know what, you know, I don't know what anything would be. I'm not trying to lie or hide anything. What were your parents doing that you felt like you're being pressured? No, I don't think they were pressuring me. I think I just like wanted to make them happy, you know. I don't think it's anything necessarily they were doing, but they like wanted me to like go to college.
Starting point is 00:32:59 And I like dropped out of like three colleges. Really? Or failed out of three colleges, I guess. Yeah. Really? Yeah. What was the best college you failed out of? The first one? Yeah, the first one. It's always that because you got into that one and then you have to get into the lower ones to stay in.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Where did you go to college first? I went to FSU and then I went to like two different community colleges. But you're smart then. You got good grades in high school. I think I was okay. It's a hard school to get into. Hold on. It's not really that. I mean, not to insult anybody. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Insult people.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Come on. Florida State. Florida State. You went to Florida State High School. Tallahassee. Tallahassee. I was going to fire you. Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Yep. And you failed Florida State? I just wasn't going. Even Bert Kreischer finished Florida State. They told me if I didn't come back and have my shit together that I was going to be kicked out and I was like, I'm just not going to come back. Were you partying too much? Not really.
Starting point is 00:33:46 I mean, I was smoking a bunch of weed and fucking off with my friends, but I wasn't getting... That's not partying too much. You know, I'm pretty tame. Did your parents yell at you? No. No? No.
Starting point is 00:33:55 They're very cool. So what pressure? Just from myself and wanting to do the thing that I thought other people thought I should do. I'm like... This is what I'm talking about. Yes. So it's the same as LA. You're always worried about thought other people thought I should do. I'm like... This is what I'm talking about. Yes. So it's the same as LA.
Starting point is 00:34:06 You're always worried about what other people think about you versus being confident with yourself. Isn't that everywhere though? Yeah, but I don't think that's like locationally based. LA is like where those people flock to. I feel like money does that. LA is like the little light to those mosquitoes that are like that. Yes. But I think that those people exist everywhere, right?
Starting point is 00:34:24 Yeah. That's why Instagram exists. But maybe where it's more concentrated wealth, I could see it, yeah. Yeah. Oh, for sure. What was the first time you felt like you needed to impress somebody?
Starting point is 00:34:36 Oh, God. I don't know. I mean, I don't even think I can remember that far back. Yeah. Close your eyes and think. Okay, okay. I don't know Maybe Oh you know what
Starting point is 00:34:53 I like took piano lessons And I like No pressure from my parents And I like couldn't nail it And I was just like So I was like a little kid And I just remember being like
Starting point is 00:35:01 So disappointed in myself I'm gonna be a singer I think maybe I'm harder on myself than like, yeah, my parents are not like, you know, they're very like, whatever makes you happy and real sweet.
Starting point is 00:35:12 You know, I think like sometimes I think there was like a point in time my mom would have wanted me to like join junior league and like be in a sorority and like marry a doctor. No, I did competitive ballroom dancing and golf. Golf is a sport? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I waved out. I was like, I can't do the team sports. Golf is a sport, but I feel like ballroom dancing takes more athleticism. Honestly, yeah. But I lost to a 96-year-old woman named Frida. What? And I was just like, I'm done. Damn.
Starting point is 00:35:40 And dancing or golf? And dancing. Those are two just individual sports. It's not team sports. So what do you like about individual sports? I think I just like doing my own thing, you know? Alpha. It's been good to be in the band because that's a cool dynamic.
Starting point is 00:35:55 But other than that, I'm not used to the team dynamic. So this has been really cool. I'm like, oh, I'm really close to these people. And we're all chasing our dream together. That feels nice. Do you think having a long relationship too kind of fucked with that idea of self, like identity crisis? It definitely like did some, but like that, like I learned a lot about myself too.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Like you do like being in any relationship, but especially like a long term when you can like really like dig in as much as that relationship had like some fucked up things to it and I wanted to leave. Like, you know, I learned a lot about myself and I grew a lot but I think I already had this whole like, I like being alone. I like hanging out by myself.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Were you trimming pot? Yeah, we had trimmers. Is it like Scarface where you're just like completely naked and you're trimming so they know you're not stealing anything? Nope. It's nothing like that. Andy wants to work there. Until he realizes he has to be... I just cocaine Andy.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Until he realizes he has to be... They don't care if you steal a little weed. Yeah, that's fine. I'm just wondering how... Because I want to talk about you going to the mental hospital because there must have been a few things that are adding up,
Starting point is 00:37:06 triggering it. I was put on antidepressants when I was really little. I think because of the bullying and then I was getting sad because I was like, oh, I don't know if I fit in. All my family is doctors and pharmacists and stuff. They were like, just
Starting point is 00:37:20 put her on some Prozac or whatever. Put a pill in her. That was the 90s. That's what boomers did. They just gave us pills. And they went to the whatever thing. You know, their club or whatever. They got drunk with their friends. Boomers were very hands-off parents.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Oh, definitely. Which I don't think is a terrible thing. But, I mean, there's a balance. But then they were too hands-on, too, sometimes. I think we're seeing the pendulum maybe swing the other way. Oh, for sure. But do you think it's like that...
Starting point is 00:37:52 Do you think that style of parenting switches every generation? Because their parents didn't want to be... Maybe. Weren't trying to parent their kids like their parents were parenting them. Their parents were also very traumatized. The boomers parentsers Because of the war World War II Yeah
Starting point is 00:38:06 So you have to factor that in Like mental health Didn't exist in the 40s You know what I'm saying So I think that It's like they were raised Like not very well And then they kind of
Starting point is 00:38:14 Carried that over And took it over They like to They're still doing it You see it online They're like taking out The way they were raised On their own kids
Starting point is 00:38:21 Right But also they were Two hands on Like the participation Trophy thing Like they invented Participation trophies They did that on Like the participation trophy thing They invented participation trophies The kids don't give themselves participation trophies I guess you're right, but when did that start?
Starting point is 00:38:31 Probably when I was 10 You were in the soccer this year You deserve a star Yeah, but no one really deserves stars Do you think that's why we get bummed out When we don't fulfill our dreams? Maybe Boomers were smart enough not to really have dreams.
Starting point is 00:38:46 You know what I mean? Like, if you think about it. Like, we're just working. Yeah. There's a generation called the silent generation. Yeah, Joe Biden's in it. What is it? It's like, I don't...
Starting point is 00:38:57 What is it? It's before the boomers. It's from like 1928 to 1944 is the silent generation. Damn, you just have that off the top? I know a lot of dumb shit. And then like before that's the golden generation. So Joe Biden is the first non-boomer president we've had since Bill Clinton
Starting point is 00:39:11 and he's actually older than the boomers. That's what's funny. That seems... Wow. Were you silent with your pain until like it exploded? Were you like imploding it? Yeah. I'm like more implosive and I like had like a whole like plan of? Were you like imploding it? Yeah. I'm like more implosive and I like had like a whole
Starting point is 00:39:26 like plan of how I could like make it work with like everyone's schedule so that it wasn't like... Your suicide? Yeah. Are you kidding, Logan? You thought this out.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Yeah, I really did. I think that happens a lot like because that's how suicidal people like are sort of empathetic, you know, so they don't want to like... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:43 That's part of the thing is like they think the world doesn't want them around. Yeah, kind of close. You were that sad, dude? So they don't want to interrupt lunch. I was. I was really sad.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And honestly, I feel like I didn't really figure it out until like last year. Where like I'm like, oh, I don't feel this way anymore. And I mean, it helped getting off the antidepressants because I feel like being on a cocktail and like being that young, you're not being responsible with when to take it and like... How old were you? I was like 19 the first time I went. And then i went again like a little after that and i went to the place james taylor wrote fire and ranks oh it's like
Starting point is 00:40:10 girl interrupted yeah kind of and everything's like linoleum and like my parents like brought me cigarettes because it's the only time you go outside it's like if you smoke and like and everyone's like some people are there because they're like there for like rehab or like they have like a drinking problem but it's like a state funded whatever and they do they have like a padded room that'd be fun
Starting point is 00:40:31 and like you have to like stand in line and like it's like all the things that you see like with like the little plastic cups
Starting point is 00:40:36 were you in the padded room? I was not in the padded room I was in a room with like an older woman named Mary who was there for like alcoholism and she was like
Starting point is 00:40:43 the first time's the scariest and I was like why am I here what did I don't want to kill myself I was just a little bit sad like I gotta get out of here I don't think I like I never I don't think I ever would have cared like followed through yeah with it but no because what was contradicting
Starting point is 00:40:57 to what you just said versus when you're like looking for the you always look for the depths of life so when you're what if you're always looking for the depths of life. So when you're, what, if you're always looking for the depths of life, then why did you want to end it? Well, I mean,
Starting point is 00:41:10 I feel like like the depth of life, I mean like, I think overall is like a philosophy. I really like to like feel like, even like when Uzi died, like there was like something about it that was like so like, even though it was pain,
Starting point is 00:41:21 it like felt, this is my dog. Oh, dog. My dog. I know. A big part of the know big part of the article I thought you were talking about family
Starting point is 00:41:27 she was like my you know I had her 13 years I get it I know I've had dogs die but there was like something about it
Starting point is 00:41:32 that felt like so like tied like joy and like grief are like so close together and like there was like such a cool like even like crying
Starting point is 00:41:41 it just felt like that's what we came here to like feel the things you know so I like came here to like go to the mental hospital and see some weird shit and be in a reggae band and feel all these different...
Starting point is 00:41:52 Have just weird experiences. Were you a little dramatic about the suicide? No. Did you look back or did you really feel that way? I think I believed that I felt that way, but I don't think I could have followed through. So the first time you went there, what were they teaching you? Oh, they don't teach
Starting point is 00:42:08 you. They basically just like... They just put you in a room. They level you out, man. Yeah. They just put you in there. They just kind of level you out, right? They like... You have like a couple therapy sessions. Yeah. Chores. Yeah. They get you in a routine, right? I was only there... When you get Baker Acted, they can hold you 72 hours. Oh, you weren't like that. So that time I was
Starting point is 00:42:23 there 72 hours. Then the one I went to in, like, it was like in Boston or something. So why'd you go back? That one was like a week. Because my mom, I still didn't feel like I had it figured out. I just had this kind of traumatic experience where they put me on a gurney and took me into the mental hospital, which that felt very traumatic. They strapped you in? No, they made me get in an ambulance.
Starting point is 00:42:45 What? A bambalance Yeah a bambalance Why did you like try to kill yourself? No I didn't I like told someone I was really sad And like somebody was like
Starting point is 00:42:56 Hey you seem really off And I was like feeling guilty Because I felt like I was like lying And then you know And so also like if I told somebody, of course, you're not going to follow through. So I told someone, they told my parents, and my parents called our doctor at the time.
Starting point is 00:43:11 We're like, oh, where can we take Logan right now? They just were panicked and frantic. And they were like, oh, take her to the hospital. Do you have siblings? Yeah. What are you, the oldest? I have a little brother, and then I have three older half...
Starting point is 00:43:25 I had three older half-siblings. Two of my brothers died, and I have an older half-sister, but she's, you know... Do they have the sad gene, too? Yeah, I think we all kind of have a little bit of the sad gene. Where do you think it comes from, your mom or your dad? It would have to be whatever you share the parent with. Yeah, I think it could come from my dad,
Starting point is 00:43:43 but he's like a boomer. Dad, we share a dad boomer Yeah we share a dad And he's like you know he's not really one to like Spend much time he's like a badass But he's a boomer and so he's not one to like talk about His feelings much so maybe something Is there So 72 hours
Starting point is 00:43:57 At that one it's called Fair Oaks So were you able to sleep Or did you sleep a lot I don't know I don't know. Tired or something? I don't know. If you're depressed, you're not sleeping. Well, they don't want you in your rooms really. Or you're sleeping constantly.
Starting point is 00:44:12 They ask you to get out of your rooms. We're watching VHS tapes and smoking cigarettes. That sounds kind of fun. It kind of sounds like summer camp. You're just in there with people who are in really odd places in their life. Yeah, of course. Of course it's deeply
Starting point is 00:44:30 sad, but it also sounds kind of nice. Looking back, I'm like, okay, I feel like that adds depth of flavor. Well, yeah. So your parents are divorced? No, my parents are together. You're from the golden marriage. I'm from the golden marriage. You're the good marriage kid. That's not a nice way to put it. Well, your parents are divorced? No, no, my parents are together You're from the golden marriage I'm from the golden marriage You're the good marriage kid
Starting point is 00:44:46 That's not a nice way to put it Well, my parents have had multiple kids No, that's how it works So your dad loves you more than he loves his other kids, right? Oh my god, Nick Oh my god They like the one with their, you know what I mean? That's not
Starting point is 00:45:03 That's how it works. Dad loves us both the same. Yeah. Yeah, he does. Can you prove that? Oh my God. Logan. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:13 So. Yeah. We're really all over the place here. How's this going? I'm coming. How are you feeling about this? It's coming. It's coming?
Starting point is 00:45:19 Don't worry. How are you feeling, Nick? You'll give me an honest answer. I feel. Yeah, you feel. I think you're fun. I think you're fun. Okay. But I just want to get
Starting point is 00:45:27 To the trauma stuff Andy doesn't like When people don't have trauma And like when they're not Drug addicts I'm sorry I know I'm no fun I'm just real
Starting point is 00:45:32 This is This is fun This is fun But it's kind of fun Sad is fun It's kind of fun To have a regular person around I don't feel like
Starting point is 00:45:39 Sad is part of my brand So this is interesting You're not sad at all to me I don't think I'm sad No Ever since I've met you You're like so happy I don't know if you're like H sad at all to me. I don't think I'm sad. Ever since I've met you, you're so happy. I don't know if you're hiding the sadness.
Starting point is 00:45:48 I don't think you could be that. No, I think I've gotten a lot better. Microdosing has helped a lot. That definitely has helped. And I just know myself better. So I think I'm genuinely very happy. What was the most heartbreak you've ever had? The most heartbreak I ever had.
Starting point is 00:46:05 She's too hot for that. What's that? Nothing. You say I'm too hot for that? I said you're too hot for heart break. It's a joke. That's obviously
Starting point is 00:46:13 We think hot people don't get heart break. Yeah, because they're the one breaking hearts. Yeah. Do you break hearts? I don't know. Have you ever
Starting point is 00:46:21 broken a guy's heart? Have you ever had a stalker? Yeah, I've had. I've had. Guys you broke up with Have you ever had a stalker Like Yeah I've had I've had I've had Guys you broke up with And they kind of like Followed you around
Starting point is 00:46:28 I've had like Changed my phone number I've had like guys Like show up at my house Let's go Now we're cooking I knew that was gonna be Now we're cooking
Starting point is 00:46:34 Yeah Yep I'll get us What happened Don't worry Andy I'll get us Leave me Leave me
Starting point is 00:46:39 So was it like a guy you dumped And then he's like I need you And he comes to your room Yeah I like almost had to have A restraining order on him and that was really bad. That was like in high school
Starting point is 00:46:47 and then I had to get... Well, high school kind of doesn't count. Guys are a little crazy then. A little unhinged. She's always been hot. Hormones. You've always been hot. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:53 But like hormones. Hormones. You can't be held responsible. He probably wouldn't have done anything too crazy. And then when I broke up with the guy I was with for like 10 years, everything is cool to us now, but it was definitely not at the time.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Really? And he was like, yeah, it was really wild. It was... Did he follow you around? He would like follow me around. He like showed up.
Starting point is 00:47:11 God. That sucks when you're in a band because they know where you're going to be all the time. No, he was like showing up at my work and like crying at my work. Oh my God. Don't people realize how...
Starting point is 00:47:20 Not a good situation. You see men doing that way more than women. Oh, yeah, I think so. And it's so weird because there's all this whole notion Not a good situation You know You see men doing that Way more than Women Oh yeah I think so And it's so weird Because there's all this Whole notion that women
Starting point is 00:47:29 Are so much more emotional Than men But every time Something bad happens To a dude They fucking do shit like that I know Right
Starting point is 00:47:34 It's like I feel like they have A free pass They're like Now I can like Unleash all of my Sad emotions I've bottled up
Starting point is 00:47:40 Yeah but it's like Now you just Embarrassed yourself Yeah I've had some guy friends Do some really embarrassing Shit in the past Yeah I've had some guy friends Do some really embarrassing shit In the past Yeah
Starting point is 00:47:46 I've seen a lot of that It's all over women too Yeah That's what I'm saying I think it gives them Artistic license To just be Yeah
Starting point is 00:47:53 Men get really lonely Do you get weird? Yes Yeah you get weird? What? You've never gotten psycho on a chick Have you ever gotten like I didn't understand
Starting point is 00:48:01 I'm probably the best person Ever to break up with Yeah Amazing Yeah You're good? No I don't get weird Women'm probably the best person ever to break up with. It's amazing. You're good? No, I don't get weird. Women used to love breaking up with me. But I also leave before they break up with me.
Starting point is 00:48:13 That's a good plan. You have to date someone for more than six hours to get your heart broken. Bravo, Andy. He's had relationships that are shorter than Oppenheimer Wow What a great one This is a big part of this, huh? You guys like adjusting the stands
Starting point is 00:48:35 Oh, now he's going Oh, I thought you went handheld For a minute I like to do that sometimes Freestyling Damn See, that's the thing with girls Especially in the music scene
Starting point is 00:48:43 You probably have to deal with stalkers And all these fucking creepy ass dudes I was reading texts of hers earlier To their Google Showing them some texts What? It's like I'm waking up and texting her in the morning Hey my sweet darling
Starting point is 00:48:53 Your voice is You know Give me like a Google voice number And so like You know I'm not always great about Like responding to it But we get some real good ones You got responses
Starting point is 00:49:02 Just like Hold on Great text from Wiles Oh my god these creeps are Just calling you He wasn't even getting that sexual It was like romantic which is creepier But I was like oh
Starting point is 00:49:12 Dude I feel like being romantic is creepier Than just being gross Tell me what you think this means He said for you the world will burn Is that good? Is he like trying to be like poetic? Yes he's like trying to be like poetic? Yes I think so He's like trying to be like a romantic poetic guy
Starting point is 00:49:27 Which I swear to God Is creepier than just sending a dick pic, I think I agree I do agree I can be like, alright, super horny I get that Being like that's like what? You're just like that
Starting point is 00:49:36 I can understand what that is I don't know Yeah, I don't know But you know what? It's nice Nobody ever talks to me that way So I was like, thanks, man Yeah, but it's also weird
Starting point is 00:49:43 No, it is It's not that nice actually For the guy who's probably Listening to this podcast You're probably listening To this voicemail Keep it up Keep it up
Starting point is 00:49:51 Kill it She likes it I guess He's not tethered to This reality It doesn't seem like it He seems It seems like something's Yeah obviously
Starting point is 00:49:57 Yeah you know Why does every female artist Say I'm a soulmate I don't Do you get a lot of those No I think For the most part
Starting point is 00:50:04 Everybody's pretty cool. I was telling I was telling Emily downstairs like nobody ever sends me dick pics like and it's not that I want dick pics but it's like it would be nice
Starting point is 00:50:11 for someone to want to send me those because sometimes I feel I can send you a dick pic. Sometimes I just feel left I feel left out because I have girlfriends who are like
Starting point is 00:50:17 oh my god I get so many dick pics and I'm like nobody ever sends me dick pics. What am I doing wrong? Do you think you're being too much of a bro?
Starting point is 00:50:24 Yeah, I do. Broken? I do think so. Is it weird that your name is sort of like a very... Broken? Seems like you're a guy in a... No. You kind of have a reggae guy name. I do. I was born for this. I was born for this. Oh, Logan's sick.
Starting point is 00:50:40 You know what I mean? They think you're like on a longboard. Do they have handshakes with you and shit? Well, that's... I've been coming up against this a lot recently. I don't... I can't... I'm not hip with it. Yeah, I can tell you're not.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Like, Stroll was giving me a really hard time, and he was like, you're going to have to get this down. Like, I saw like all of his faith in me just like disappear when I like... You don't have to get shit down. I can't do it. They need to come to you.
Starting point is 00:51:00 They're all dorks. I'm a hugger. Shake a hand. And a firm handshake. Just don't... Don't worry about me. Don't take lessons on being cool and 45-year-old guys in long cargo shorts. I'm a hugger. Shake a hand. In the front handshake. Don't worry about me. Don't take lessons on being cool and 45-year-old guys in long cargo shorts.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Okay. Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. We love you. We love you, Adam Stroll. Oh, I like Adam Stroll. He's not... That's what I'm saying. You'll never see him
Starting point is 00:51:18 in long cargo shorts. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Stroll rules. This is all making sense. It's also not making sense. It's like You are super hot
Starting point is 00:51:26 And super tight Maybe How you approach yourself on social media Is bro-y I think that's better I'm not trying to be like I'm not a thirsty kind of You're always throwing the vinyl on
Starting point is 00:51:41 I love that You're not thirsty You're the least thirsty of the three of us probably Damn thank you That means a lot to me Okay Okay So that's why
Starting point is 00:51:51 We've gotten to the bottom of the dick pics That's why I'm too broke You are dick pics I'm too broke No I'm all set Dick Nixon Dick Clark
Starting point is 00:51:58 All set Yo I guess Dick Tracy Their Google The article sounds as if Google phone page Also sends text messages.
Starting point is 00:52:06 This is actually horrible. Please do not. Don't send your dick pics. That is a crime. It is a crime. Thank you. I think guys are starting to realize that
Starting point is 00:52:13 and they're not doing it as much. I think that's good. I think the women are wilder. I think the women are sending, like, you probably get crazy stuff. I've gotten some crazy stuff. Just push shots. It's different.
Starting point is 00:52:22 I had this girl message me last night after the Red Rocks show Please let me sit on your face And even that seems kind of tame And it showed her vagina From sitting Wait, nothing on it? Well that
Starting point is 00:52:35 Like she's sitting Like she's urinating Naked? Yes Like she's urinating How did you feel? How did you feel about that? I don't know
Starting point is 00:52:44 Because my manager Is in my Instagram posting. So they get all these messages too. So I can't be just like flirting. You know, I'm like, ooh, baby, baby. Why would you send that thinking this will work? I don't know. Because some... Would that work?
Starting point is 00:53:01 If they're not in there? I mean, the human psyche is... Depends how much cocaine I've had in me, to be honest. I guess so. That, to be honest. I get horny. Yeah? And sometimes I'll start sexting. Okay, that's good.
Starting point is 00:53:13 It's not good because I wake up and I'm like, oh. That's kind of fun. Heroin. So you said, talk about the reggae scene. You say that you're like the outlaw. You're not like the bubbly. Why do you say that you're like the outlaw You're not like the bubbly Why do you say that? Well I think some of our Lyrical content is like Not as like
Starting point is 00:53:32 I mean like everything in a lot of the reggae stuff Is like everything's good vibes And like you know what I mean And you're like you're an asshole Yeah and I'm like you broke my fucking heart Are men scared of you? I don't think so I think I'm like, you broke my fucking heart. You fucking cocksucker. Are men scared of you? I don't think so. I think I'm a pretty
Starting point is 00:53:48 warm and friendly person. Do girls in the scene like you? Are you intimidating to girls? I actually feel like I didn't have a lot of women friends until I started making music. And now I've made so many. All the women who work in the industry. I'm not, I guess, like LJ from this band bikini
Starting point is 00:54:05 trail yeah you love her i love her she's awesome she's are you guys the only two women in reggae no no no there's a lot there's a lot yeah yeah but she's the one i've spent the most time with and i just feel like the most kindred to her and it feels like we're like real friends not just like circumstantially do you feel like you have to work harder because you're a woman i guess i could look at it that way but i don don't. I mean, she's a singer, though. I don't think I do. That balances that out. There's just as many perks to being a woman.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Yeah. I mean. What about like, you know, you're not in a really big band yet, so you have to share a bed and share a room with five dudes. Does it ever smell? Yeah, but I smell, too. I mean, Nick can probably tell you right now. You never smelled?
Starting point is 00:54:44 You don't think I ever smell? Nope. Dang, that's nice. You ever like see one of your guys just take a massive shit? We have a policy in the hotel room. You have to poop in the lobby. Cool. Because there's just too many.
Starting point is 00:54:55 It was just, you can't run a train on one toilet with five of you in there. And it's just, so, no, they're pretty good. They're pretty good. I know when they're jerking off and stuff and, you know, but we're pretty good. I know when they're jerking off and stuff. But we're pretty good. Have you ever caught them jerking off? No, I haven't. She keeps trying and she can't. I keep...
Starting point is 00:55:11 God, yeah. I'm just not quick enough. You wish. You want to see them once. No, no. I could see Andy doing that. No. What are you guys doing in here?
Starting point is 00:55:19 My guys haven't caught me beat off yet. How? I have no idea. I am so quick. That's bad. That was so so quick. That's bad. That was so much pride. That's bad. You can get a rectal...
Starting point is 00:55:28 You can develop a rectal dysfunction doing that. Because your body gets used to coming really fast without getting like all the way hard and stuff. Yeah, it's good to like breathe through it. That's why I don't last long. Maybe you don't last long. You don't last long? Not really.
Starting point is 00:55:42 That's the thing with masturbating too much. Oh, fuck. Like your body just gets It's like okay we gotta get this over with Oh fuck You might get a record of defunction doing that Really? I just have to do it really quickly in the bathroom That's because you've been touring too long
Starting point is 00:55:59 You haven't had any privacy for like 20 years I honestly can't believe you can get a full erection I honestly can't believe That this is another full erection. I honestly can't believe that this is another episode of your podcast you're talking about jerking off in the bathroom. We might just make this
Starting point is 00:56:10 a Nick and Andy episode and then with Logan on it. We really have nasty shit about this stuff. Yeah, we asked her a bunch of things. Yes, let me be, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:56:19 make it a Nick and Andy one. No. No, this is your, this is your prime time. You're talking about your mental health stuff. Okay. Let's go back to Boston when you went back. Boston.
Starting point is 00:56:29 When you went back to the therapy. It really just isn't that exciting. You're just pretending you're not interesting. Do you think I'm pretending I'm not being interesting? Am I not being interesting? Yes. Okay. You're pretending.
Starting point is 00:56:40 I'm pretending. Life's hard. Yeah, but it's also nice Yeah Yeah Do you like being in a band? Pretty good attitude actually I love being in a band It's my favorite thing
Starting point is 00:56:51 Who's your favorite band mate? It really rotates If you had to fire one tomorrow Who would you pick? Oh my god that's tough You have to For the world to end Who do you pick?
Starting point is 00:57:03 And why? I'm probably picking Adam because his cymbals bleed into my mic so much. It really upsets me. Oh, wow. And he's like, I don't want to play darker cymbals and I don't want to play with less volume.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Damn. So that upsets me. I love you, Adam. Who writes a lot of the music in the band? Who's the musical producer side of it? I write the lyrics and that for the most producer side of it? Um, I write, like, the lyrics and, like, that for the most part. And then Chris,
Starting point is 00:57:27 our guitarist, he, like, kind of is, like, So we can't fire him. We can't fire him. And he's my landlord. I live in his backyard. What?
Starting point is 00:57:34 Yeah. You live in his backyard? Yeah, he and his wife have, like, a really cute, like, mother-in-law cottage and I live back there. Oh, I thought you meant,
Starting point is 00:57:39 like, you're camping out. I know. Everyone says, am I saying it wrong? Everyone always thinks that when I'm, like, I live in his backyard, mother-in-law suite I've heard that
Starting point is 00:57:46 But it's like its own house Yeah No it's perfect Yeah it's awesome Is he rich or something? No But he got I mean they used to own a music school
Starting point is 00:57:52 They were doing alright Sounds like he's kind of rich to me He's not Everyone's like low-key rich They're always like quiet About their money and stuff I'm not rich I just have a house
Starting point is 00:58:00 I've been very honest About like Growing up with More than I needed I feel like So tell me about I've been very honest about Growing up with more than I needed I feel like So tell me about I got a lot of things I want to say
Starting point is 00:58:10 But I don't know if I can say it We're really all over the place here That's what this podcast is You could edit it out and you would Because you care about me You got any beef with any bands? Who's your least favorite band? Who's your least favorite band? Who's your least favorite band?
Starting point is 00:58:25 Oh, don't do this. Why? It's fun. We'll bleep out the name. No, you won't. We will. My least favorite band. Just don't say it multiple times. Just so it's easy on you.
Starting point is 00:58:34 My least favorite band. I feel like it should come right to that. I feel like I'm working with a filter right now because I'm protecting myself. Fucking Switzerland over here. What are you running for office? Who are you scared of? Who's your manager?
Starting point is 00:58:46 I'm not a big enough man to burn any bridges. Is there a Reggae Illuminati? Yeah, there is. Oh, there is? No, there's not. Yes, there is. Yeah. That's definitely all white guys.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Who is it? I can't say. Will you bleep it out? No, I can't. I'll bleep it out. I can't. I can't. Who is it?
Starting point is 00:58:59 What's the pecking order for Reggae? Who's the biggest? Yeah. The pecking order for Reggae, I guess it's probably like stick figures up there at the top with Slightly Stupid and Revolution and Dirty Heads. Those are the big four guys. No black guys. I know.
Starting point is 00:59:14 It's like a different scene. We just went out with Stephen Marley and it was really cool because it was a different audience. Yeah. And then I'm like, oh, okay, this music is really awesome. Oh, that's how you do it.
Starting point is 00:59:25 So do each reggae band have like their cult of bands that play with them all the time? Yeah. You know, everybody's got like their little like clicks. Yeah. Their little clicks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:35 What click are you in? I don't know. I would say like, I mean, I feel like we're friends with little stranger and I really liked me. Yeah. Definitely a reggae band. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Well, they're in the thing. I've already heard you guys have this conversation. Are they reggae? They got a bubble under some stuff. Dude, just say they're reggae. God damn it. You guys are all fucking socialists in this fucking scene. I hate reggae people now.
Starting point is 00:59:57 You guys are too nice to each other. Everyone's so nice, but is that passive-aggressive? How long have you been doing this? How long have you been doing this podcast? 30 years. When did you start filming and recording it? A year and a half. A year and a half ago. You started the podcast a year and a half ago.
Starting point is 01:00:15 No, we started it four years ago, but when I met my boyfriend. And was your band in a better position to just shit-talk everybody and still get on? My manager hates when I shit-talk. Yeah, but your manager's. We're not shit talking. Managers are dorks. They don't know. They don't know that shit talking is actually good.
Starting point is 01:00:31 When has a beef ever hurt anyone? A beef has never hurt anybody. It's called marketing. I guess it's called marketing, yeah. Just lie. We'll bleep it out. Who do you not like? They have dogs. I'm into that.
Starting point is 01:00:46 They're cool. They've been nice to us. His whole team is out. Who do you not like? Dick Digger seems nice. They have dogs. I'm into that. Yeah, you know, they're cool. They've been nice to us. His whole team is nice. Have you played with them? Yeah, we've played with them. Is there a rule that you have to be from San Diego to play in those scenes? In those festivals? Well, I'm from Florida, so we're the outlier.
Starting point is 01:00:59 But yeah, everybody else. How did you break in from not doing it? Give us a good San Diego. Do it. I can tell you're itching to. Oh, yeah! How did you break into the scene? Yeah, yeah, yeah! How did you break into the scene
Starting point is 01:01:09 not being from San Diego, California? It was tough. Ocean Beach, California. No, Florida, San Diego, tomato, tomato. Yeah, I know. It's not like you're from, like, Vermont. What were the reggae bands in Florida?
Starting point is 01:01:19 What were they? Yeah, what were they? Is there a big one? There's this band, Cashed Out, and those guys are killing it. And I'm trying to think Who else is from Florida That's like Tom Petty
Starting point is 01:01:29 His reggae album Tom Petty Yeah his reggae album Yeah Yeah Don't stop What Huh
Starting point is 01:01:36 Cashed Out is killing it We have good friends In this band Called The Resolvers Those guys are some of my favorites That's cool There's a girl Sierra Lane Oh yeah
Starting point is 01:01:44 And she's young And she's like She's reggae Yeah she's reggae Never heard her music Yeah That's cool. There's a girl, Sierra Lane. Oh, yeah. And she's young and she's like... She's reggae? Yeah, she's reggae. Never heard of music. Yeah, it's cool. She has like a really awesome voice and she plays guitar too, which is nice.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Hmm. Yeah. Wow. Wow. So there's no reggae band you don't like. You just like everybody. No, no. You love everybody.
Starting point is 01:01:58 We just love everybody. You love everybody. Yeah. Your scene sounds terrible. I just like... I keep it in the van. You're supposed to be our recon of the scene. I'm not here on camera.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Do they have reggae? I've never seen a reggae joke meme about a reggae band. I've never seen any memes. Do you guys do anything fun or interesting? No, they're all pretty nice. We had this thing that we were doing for a while. No, they're all pretty nice. No one's funny.
Starting point is 01:02:23 You're just like, no, we're not funny. Reggae Dongs was this thing that we wanted to do. We like i was for a while i was into shitty photoshop and i was just taking all of these photos of people um you know and just put in like dildos where the microphones were and i wanted to have a page where i just like anonymously did reggae dongs why don't you do that that's not even that i don't know but i don't think that it's not mean, it's just lighthearted. In the jam bands, people make memes like, look how fat this drug addict is.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Look at this fat drug addict. That's how the jam band scene memes are. I'm not kidding. Yeah, it's mean. Look at this fat fucking heroin addict. What a fucking loser.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Are you in the jam scene? Sure. There's this page called My Drug Band's Better Than Your Drug Band, and they rip on all of us It's fun though Why can't the reggae people do that?
Starting point is 01:03:07 I don't know It seems sensitive I don't know, everybody seems really nice Everybody seems really nice Maybe I just don't know them very well We're not going to be able to record this This is great I think it's going boring It's not going to be able to record this This is great I think it's going boring
Starting point is 01:03:26 It's not going boring It's not going boring It's because I know you and I'm high You're scared You're scared to get in trouble I don't like being on camera And I don't like shit talking on camera You're the front
Starting point is 01:03:40 I know I don't have front woman energy You wrote a song That you named your boyfriend An asshole Yeah So who are the other assholes In the scene Come on Assholes in the scene
Starting point is 01:03:51 Just give me some dirt I don't know Pretend you're a Dodgers fan Pretend I'm a Dodgers And you hate Padres fans And you want I don't know sports This is
Starting point is 01:04:01 Dodgers and Padres Hate each other It's another San Diego joke Get on something else. You're not squeezing this out of me. Apparently not. Yeah, we're just getting... How does it feel to lose band members?
Starting point is 01:04:13 To lose band members? Have you ever lost a band member? At the mall, like they wander off? No, I haven't ever lost a band member. I went to the fountain. You guys have been in the same band? Mm-hmm. Wow.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Yeah, I mean, I'm the newest member of the band. Have you ever kissed anybody the same band? Mm-hmm. Wow. Yeah, I mean, I'm the newest member of the band. Have you ever kissed anybody in the band? Yeah, I have. She dated one of them. I dated one of them. Full dated?
Starting point is 01:04:32 Full dated. You had sex and everything? Yeah. What was that like dating a band member? I've never said that out loud, really. You had full sex?
Starting point is 01:04:38 Full sex. Full relationship. Yeah. Tell me about that. It's like a high school we're talking about. Full sex. No one knows that you and Cope
Starting point is 01:04:49 were fucking? No, I mean, I don't think so. We tried to keep that very private. You should get your feet down. Don't give that away for free. It's worth a lot of money. Is this in the shot? Those are worth money. I told her. I will blur it out. We're trying to get her on OnlyFans Just feet
Starting point is 01:05:05 Let's make her some money You do have some dinky feet You got good feet Don't look at him I'm not looking Don't look at him Go back to the dating How hard was it dating
Starting point is 01:05:13 Someone you're working with? I mean There are some times Where it's really awesome Right? Because you have these Big moments of elation And winning
Starting point is 01:05:20 And you're doing this thing together But I mean It's also just tough And we also were trying To keep it quiet so then like people are like hitting on you at the merch table and like
Starting point is 01:05:27 your bandmate is like fuming off in a corner just watching it which I can understand I mean you're hot I like couldn't like claim him in front of anyone so like
Starting point is 01:05:35 but Cope was hot too yeah Cope is hot yeah he's still hot how'd that go with him being in the band it was like really hairy oh yeah you know cause it's like
Starting point is 01:05:43 hard to like create any space and like not be around each other and then you're like getting drunk and playing shows and you don't really,
Starting point is 01:05:49 you don't really mend. You just like pretend like it didn't happen. So it was still there a little bit? And then your bandmates are, no,
Starting point is 01:05:55 it was there for a long time. It really was there for a long time. Now it feels like finally like this last story we were on, it really felt like we were like just,
Starting point is 01:06:02 and I was like, you know what, look, we're bickering like exes should do. Like this is really done. And this should have been done a year ago. It should have been a longer.
Starting point is 01:06:10 You're still hooking up on the road sometimes when you were lonely. Like, I guess it's like kind of hard to hook up on the road, but yeah, sometimes. Not that hard. I guess when you're not making enough money. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:18 You're like all sharing a room. Yeah. And also like, it goes back to that point. Like, you don't want to just hook up with everyone. It's got to be the right person. Well,
Starting point is 01:06:24 that's what I'm saying. It's been someone that you already hooked up with everyone It's got to be the right person Well that's what I'm saying It's been someone That you already hooked up with It's easier Yeah but he's super He's super cool And like he and I now Have like a very
Starting point is 01:06:30 Interesting relationship Because like he's like He was there through like He's just been there for me Did you know before You were in the band Or did you meet through the band We met through the band
Starting point is 01:06:39 Ooh Fleetwood Mac Fleetwood Mac I know You met through the band We met through the band And I really didn't think I was going to be in the band very long. I was like, I broke up with that guy that I've been with for 10 years.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Like a week later, I hooked up with Cope because I was like, I just joined this band and he's like hot and I'm probably going to like move away and not do this anymore. Wow. Where are we going to move? San Diego? Asheville. Yeah, probably San Diego. Something like that. I wasn't in a regular website. I had to do it.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Yeah, and so I didn't think it was Gonna be a thing Or that like he was gonna Wanna have it continue I was like this could just be like casual But if I can give you any advice Don't hook up with your bandmates I had a wonderful time
Starting point is 01:07:17 What about musicians? Would you Would you fall in love with a musician? Yeah Like a sax player maybe That's like 10 years older than you Like a sax player How about your girlfriend last night?
Starting point is 01:07:26 That doesn't mean you can't fall in love with me Okay that's true I don't think they have to fall in love back Yeah I think I can't help it Like the musician thing is very I mean that's the most attractive thing to me You love it
Starting point is 01:07:35 I love it Oh yeah you did meet my girlfriend Two musicians just Doing their art Yeah I mean That's like very hot to me right? How hard is it to do art? Like write lyrics Do art talk about your life.
Starting point is 01:07:49 You know, you're a lyricist. So how hard is it to like say how you really feel? I mean, I think it's like it's getting easier. As I'm getting to know myself, it's getting easier. I'm like, I feel like I'm clawing to like be more vulnerable and like have it be more scary. But so far it's felt like easy and like, you know, you're expressing yourself.
Starting point is 01:08:05 So you can make a record for millions of people, but you can't be honest on a podcast. I don't like being on... It feels different. They're all off. The cameras are off. Okay, good. We turned them off like 10 minutes. We're not even going to air this.
Starting point is 01:08:23 I'm sorry. I'm not giving you what you want. Does your band have a manager? Where do they live? You're like, we're not even going to air this. I'm sorry. I'm not giving you what you want. Does your band have a manager? Where do they live? She's with the Don. I'm with John Phillips. John Phillips, the Don of the reggae scene. Oh, sick.
Starting point is 01:08:32 And so he's out in L.A. Or is he in Orange County? I think he's in L.A. South of L.A., maybe a little. It's all the same. Or most, I think. Maybe a little south of L.A. I do like the reggae community.
Starting point is 01:08:42 He's awesome. He's like the Scooter Braun of reggae. He's the Scooter Braun of reggae He's the coolest Who else does he manage? Revolution, all of them He was the first manager for Sublime Yeah, he kind of made Sublime happen He does Slightly Stupid, Stephen Marley Do you think your statement would exist if there was never a Sublime?
Starting point is 01:08:57 I'm not trying to be funny No, I don't They're like the guys Do you think Sublime started the reggae? That branch of it. Who else would it be? The sort of ska mixed with reggae
Starting point is 01:09:08 mixed with punk white people beach. Elvis Costello. What? Elvis Costello? I feel like he played like ska reggae
Starting point is 01:09:16 like back in the day. That seems like the police maybe a little bit did. Oh maybe the police. But they didn't like make the scene. They like I feel like Sublime
Starting point is 01:09:23 sort of like right? Yeah they definitely made the scene. Everybody's kind of feel like Sublime Sort of like right Yeah they definitely Made the scene Everybody's kind of like Got Sublime in them a little It's like It's the Grateful Dead With the jam band scene
Starting point is 01:09:29 Yeah Or Nirvana with the rock scene Grunge yeah Grunge Or That's harder Or like It's a wider
Starting point is 01:09:36 James Brown Funk Do you feel like You're pigeonholed In the reggae scene and you want to do more than that? I hope not because we have an EP and an album out and I feel like
Starting point is 01:09:51 relatively speaking, we're pretty green. So you can do whatever you want. I hope so. And I think that we just should and then hopefully people just like it. But I'm feeling more inspired by the alternative rock kind of thing right now. I fucking hate genres. Putting
Starting point is 01:10:07 someone in a genre. I don't think a genre is important. It's a marketing tool. I don't think it's as important anymore. I think a scene is a different thing. It's like how Little Stranger is kind of being propelled by the reggae scene. Not really.
Starting point is 01:10:23 But it's really important to have a scene It's like really important to Yeah Have some context to come up in Yeah So I'm very grateful for The scene that we're in Genres do exist though
Starting point is 01:10:34 It's weird It's like People hate them but like The Strokes are different than Revolution I mean you know what I mean You can't just be like They're both rock bands
Starting point is 01:10:42 We came here to make generalizations You said Yeah And that's what we're doing Exactly Yeah And Little Stranger is a reggae like They're both rock bands We came here to make generalizations You said And that's what we're doing Exactly And Little Stranger is a reggae band They're a reggae band Don't say that
Starting point is 01:10:49 They hate that That's why I'm saying it And we love those boys That's literally why I'm saying it Do you like when people Call you a reggae band? I guess I don't know what else They would call us
Starting point is 01:10:58 I think Little Stranger Is more reggae than you guys I think so too I would say that Like their vibe and shit To me you're more of like A pop punk. Kevin's going to drown you
Starting point is 01:11:06 in your sleep, dude. It would be an honor. We love you, Kevin. I'll give him my address. If you don't want to be called a reggae band,
Starting point is 01:11:13 quit making reggae music. Who are your idols? Who are my idols? I love Debbie Harry. Oh, the first rapper. Yeah. White people love to say
Starting point is 01:11:21 that about Debbie Harry. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Debbie Harry. yeah Yeah Debbie Harry I love her And I love Patsy Cline Oh hell yeah
Starting point is 01:11:31 She died in a plane crash right Did she Yeah I guess I don't know Something tragic I thought And then lately I like never did the pop punk thing
Starting point is 01:11:39 And I was never like a Paramore fan I love her But then I just did Like a song for that Pop Punk Goes Reggae project I had to do Misery Business. I covered the song, and I've been watching her perform. I'm in love with her.
Starting point is 01:11:49 You guys should open for that. I'm obsessed with her. She is just so enchanting. She's so charming on stage. She's one of the most charming people in music. She's phenomenal. I can't get over her. You guys would be a good opening band for them, I feel like. Thank you. Hopefully she would hear that one. Haley, she watches every week. Every week would be a good opening band for them, I feel like. Thank you. Hopefully she would hear that one. Hayley,
Starting point is 01:12:06 she watches every week. Every week, yeah. She's a big fan. She tunes in. Wow, Logan, we're going to have to do part two. Brogan. Are we? Brogan.
Starting point is 01:12:13 What's your middle name? Stegosaurus? Little John. But you see my little star? Little John's your actual middle name? She was born to be a rock star. What? So why is it Little John?
Starting point is 01:12:21 But I come here with none of the energy. I love this woman. I love you. I really do. You were kind of born to be a rock star. You were. What's none of the energy. I love this woman. I love you. I really do. You were kind of born to be a rock star. You were. What's Little John?
Starting point is 01:12:28 I need to know about that. It's my mom's maiden name. It's like Scottish. But it's so funny because like your parents didn't want you to be a rock star. They want you to go to school. They're very good about it now. But no, before. Before, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Why? Why do you think it was? Because it's a money thing? No, I think they just like it wasn't even, I don't even know if I was like expressing enough interest in it. Because like I didn't ever sing in front of my parents. All of a sudden you were like, hey, it's like somebody
Starting point is 01:12:49 joining the Navy. I'm a singer now. I went down to the strip mall and signed up to be a singer. I wasn't a singer kid growing up. I just liked to bang around on my guitar. Yeah, you play guitar.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Poorly, but yes You're a really good guitar player I think you're a good songwriter Andy, that's so nice of you I'm treading lightly on this I like this to be more light Because I do I admire you and I appreciate you
Starting point is 01:13:21 And you inspire me Andy That's such a nice thing to say Even though you don't talk shit about nobody I don't know It's kind of sus Right Nick? I don't like that
Starting point is 01:13:30 He's even texting He's been on his fucking phone all the time It's about money So Someone's making sure I got paid It's a little more important Jason Haynes is making sure I got paid For our gig
Starting point is 01:13:42 And I did Yeah Good Yeah I stay paid man I stay paid I have very low expenses I did. Yeah. Good. Yeah, I stay paid, man. I stay paid. I have very low expenses. You should try. Dude, are you looking for a sax player?
Starting point is 01:13:49 They can't afford me. I've heard their hotel situation. Yeah. I already did that. We can't afford. We don't have a bass player. I don't need two bands like that. You don't have a bass player?
Starting point is 01:13:57 On the next round, no. Why don't you just... Do you play on tracks? We do. Put it in the track. That's what we did, yeah. You don't have a bass player? But it feels lame.
Starting point is 01:14:04 No, for the next run, because Fabian's having a baby. That's what I'm saying. How does it feel to have someone this time? I know, we were like, this ain't Europe, Fabian. Get back in the fucking van. You're not taking a year off, Fabian. The problem is that the rest of us all need this to eat, and it still doesn't pay.
Starting point is 01:14:20 But Fabian has another job. What's he do? He's a tech dude. He drives a Porsche. Don't blow his spot up like that job. What's he do? He's a tech dude. He drives a Porsche. Don't blow his spot up like that. You drive a fucking Porsche. Yeah, but it was my dad's. Fabian has a big Porsche.
Starting point is 01:14:35 He has a Porsche. Have you told your story about why you kept it? The brakes go out of total. I haven't. Have I told you this? The reason why I kept the Porsche? What do you mean? And it's behind his cream pie fetish.
Starting point is 01:14:49 I have a cream pie fetish. And this is why. It all clicked together for me last night. You mean like coming girls? That's not a fetish. That's like biologically what you're supposed to do. You guys have had this exact conversation. It's just your body.
Starting point is 01:15:01 I kept my dad's car because I had sex with a pregnant woman in it and it reminded me of that she was a sweet girl but she was nine months pregnant, eight months pregnant and we fucked in the back of my dad's Porsche. He spoke really highly of her. It sounded like it was actually a sweet
Starting point is 01:15:19 thing. Yeah, I liked her. And we were still friends. I'm sure you liked her. I still go visit. I'm like Uncle Andy. That's nice Alright Let's wrap this up I gotta pee Let's go Alright
Starting point is 01:15:30 Logan Do you have any music to promote? Got any new I have a Jetta What was that? I don't know By the way Yeah
Starting point is 01:15:39 This chick's got a Corvette I do I have a Corvette Don't even make fun Of my fucking old Porsche You have a fucking Corvette Oh, you'll fit right in with your fans Like a 55-year-old guy and a second wife
Starting point is 01:15:49 The Corvette You have their dream car Okay, like the New Balance and the high socks By the way, I have your dream car Yeah, it's good They're like, so do we It's really good I love it
Starting point is 01:16:00 You said it all We've learned a little bit about you today Good You told me last night I was mysterious You are I'm glad I night It was mysterious You are I'm glad I could keep that air You are You're keeping it
Starting point is 01:16:07 But like I like Oh tell Nick this story About the fish show too Where you swam to the fish Or Dave Matthew Oh Slightly Stupid This is a great story Is it?
Starting point is 01:16:15 I told anyone Like Alcatraz or something? No there was like a Like a canal around this venue Where I grew up Alcatraz Alcatraz For surely you're familiar
Starting point is 01:16:24 Yeah yeah yeah Slightly Stupid was playing Alcatraz. Alcatraz. For surely you're familiar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Slightly Stupid was playing Alcatraz. And I swam in with like beers in my pockets. They should just let you. If you make that swim, you should be allowed in. Yeah, they pretty, well, I think I made the guard.
Starting point is 01:16:34 I told Andy like there was like a security guard there and he's like, you're not supposed to be in here. It was like me and my two guy friends. She's just wet. Beers in my pocket. No, I can't. We're like soaking wet.
Starting point is 01:16:41 No one's drinking beers out of cans except us. There's a starfish on your back. You know what? And so it was fun. I told Andy last night, I was like, oh, I've never paid for it. We're like soaking wet. No one's drinking beers out of cans except us. There's a starfish on your back. You know what? And so it was fun. I told Andy last night. I was like, oh, I've never paid for it. You're covered in leeches.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Yeah. For a slightly stupid show. It's cute. I loved it. Well, we're going to be continued. You don't want to air this? No, no, it's fine. I feel boring.
Starting point is 01:17:02 I feel it's just boring. You're not boring. Don't worry. I saved it. Thank you. What a shining star. What color is your Corvette? It's burgundy Ooh
Starting point is 01:17:08 I feel like you gotta Kind of have a cool car She's Reggae Barbie I like that Thanks Reggae Barbie It has inspired me now Like now when I think of
Starting point is 01:17:17 I like wear little dresses and shit And I try and be like cute In my Corvette, it's fun I think you should just put bass In the tracks for this tour No, we are Oh, okay, good Yeah, yeah, yeah
Starting point is 01:17:24 Don't get a bass player They're so repulsive It's all situated. Don't worry. You don't need a bass player. No one's going to care. Hear that, Faves? He's fine. He's got a Porsche. He's rich. He's like, go make your money, Favians. Is his wife hot?
Starting point is 01:17:36 Oh, yeah. His wife is very hot. I love his wife. He's got everything. You don't have a Porsche and an ugly wife. They had a bakery. They've been together since high school. She They had a bakery. She makes like... They've been together since like high school. She's like a baker. She's hot. She's like the most mellow, wonderful woman.
Starting point is 01:17:51 I love her. Yeah. When are you going to fall in love? I don't know. I don't recommend it. I'm just kidding. You don't recommend it? No, I'm kidding.
Starting point is 01:17:57 I don't have any opinions on love. I don't have time. I got to stay focused. Oh, yeah. Because right now, the boys are all like, let's just be home with our girlfriends and our lives
Starting point is 01:18:05 And I'm like home Pacing a hole in the floor And like Put us on the fucking road And that's all The only way That this band is Going to take off
Starting point is 01:18:13 Yeah So Well stay hungry Keep working I want to see your Porsche What year is it? It's a Corvette It's a 94
Starting point is 01:18:21 Oh sick It's very fun Because Porsches don't Or Corvettes don't look as cool anymore I don't think No they don't And this one has like The headlights
Starting point is 01:18:28 I'll show you Enough about that You said it all It's so Florida Our Florida queen I'm never letting you In this podcast Thank you
Starting point is 01:18:36 We did it Go check out Article Sound System They're great It's a K-A-L At the end of article K-A-L Look at you knowing
Starting point is 01:18:44 Just so they know Nick and I went to your show on Mission He's like this is a good band I actually liked it and I don't really like stuff That was so nice of you I really don't like the stuff in that scene very much I was like this is actually I would go to this What if I pay when I go You'll always take care of you
Starting point is 01:18:58 Well you said it all We learned a little bit You're going to be on again I'm going to be on again. I'm going to really go for it. This is fun. You're a little nervous. I try to be a nice person. You can be nice and also tell everyone they suck.
Starting point is 01:19:14 And also just shred them to pieces. You said I'm a nice guy earlier. I talk shit constantly. Ooh, got her. We got a Corvette now. Let's end this. We love you. Thanks, Logan end this. All right. We love you. Thanks, Logan. Goodbye.
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