Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 241: Elle Duncan (ESPN Sportscenter) plus Cool Cool Cool

Episode Date: October 17, 2023

Like a hungry, single-celled amoeba devouring & absorbing everything it touches, the band rolls on from town to town collecting new friends, crew members, and what else? STORIES. We got our people with us and we are happy. People such as the excellent band: Cool Cool Cool. And on the interview hour, we present to you a very special, sports centric conversation as we welcome ESPN sports anchor, Elle Duncan! Not a sports person? Doesn't matter! Cuz Elle and Andy explore territory beyond the court as well. Plus, a special message from our dear friend, Dolav Cohen... Watch this episode streaming now!! Psyched to partner up with our buddies at Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. Call, leave a message, and tell us if you think one can get addicted to mushrooms: [phone]  Check out our new album!, L'Optimist on all platforms Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out our good friends that help us unwind and sleep easy while on the road and at home: dialedingummies.com Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Damn Skippy Em Walis Cool Cool Cool Dolav Cohen Arno Bakker

Hello everybody! Welcome to Sports with Dolav! He's talking shit about the game He's got a weird fucking name It's Sports with Dolav! This week we'll be talking some NBA! That's the NFL It's time! Preseason is here Let's go NBA baby is back

Almost All the crazy offseason shit James Harden still in Philly But the big news Damian Lillard traded to the Bucs We got Dame Dalla in Milwaukee Drew Holiday traded to the Blazers But then rerouted to Boston

Holy shit Insane move. Boston versus Milwaukee. Milwaukee versus Boston. That's going to be the fucking series to watch. What the fuck? My old Milwaukee. The Greek freak Giannis and Dame Dala.

Are you kidding me? They are my favorite to win the championship. That's my pick. The Heat get fucked. Jimmy Butler is pissed. He fucking straightened his hair because of it. Looking terry cruz and fucking idiocracy wow what the fuck lakers they ain't doing it sorry but the nuggets are still the team to beat they are the reigning champs they have two-time mvp the joker jam band fantasy league is back degenerates league

is back back nick gerlach is back Nick Gerlach you're going Fucking down we're not letting you Take it again not this year Jack Brown you're going down Down down down down You're never gonna win your own league cause you ain't shit Big Dick Nick I love you I hope I see you in the finals in both leagues

Bitch we got Al Duncan In the house let's go You are a queen. We love you. You're incredible. Can't believe you're on this silly show. Wow. Thank you. You know all the shit on all the sports. And I hope you listen to this because

I love you. It's the Utah Jazz's time in like four years. It's the Utah Jazz's time In like four years Woo-hoo! All right, and we're live Andy Frasca's World's Teenest Podcast

How we doing? How's our heads? How's our minds? Are we still, still not fucking hungover? I am fucking so proud of this band Let's go We're feeling good out there We're feeling alive We're feeling it Y'all, Skippy, come over here Get over here this band. Let's go. We're feeling good out there. We're feeling alive.

We're feeling it. Y'all, Skippy, come over here. Get over here for a second. Let's just get... We got Elle Duncan on the show. ESPN Sports Center anchor. She's amazing. But before we do that, we got Skippy.

Hey, Skippy, how you doing? I'm doing great. Andy, how are you doing? How's the merch selling? Like hotcakes. Woo! Make that money, daddy. Let's go.

We're setting records out here. We're setting records. That doesn't mean you shouldn't come by more. Now, what's the best part of being merch for the Frasco empire? All the great conversations. I just called this like an empire. We're playing like Richmond.

Richmond's great. I fucking love this town. It is an empire. You've been growing it for years from the roots. You've been growing it for years. From the roots. You're right. What was the question? Are fans nice? Do they love?

Do they care about? What do they care about? Do they like to flirt with you? Give you drugs? Do they want to tell you they love the band? What's the most random drug someone's given you at the merch table? Probably DMT Really? Yeah, I just gave it to the next customer

And they loved it Let's go, Skippy Always making the customers happy You know, I would say your fans are a direct reflection of you Really? Yeah They're the best They're insane

They are, they're fucking crazy people In the best way But they're all like They're all making us like. They're fucking crazy people. In the best way. But they're all like, yeah, and they're, they're all make us, they're making us like gifts of us now. It's like. No, the other night, the doll you got.

Yeah. A crocheted doll of you. Yeah. It was, I thought it was a voodoo doll. I started poking it and asking for more money. It was crazy.

I was like, it's going to take a lot more than a voodoo doll to get more money out of me, Skip. She said the hair alone took her eight hours Yeah, she was saying like The crochet It took She's like, yeah, I just worked on it a couple hours

Every day for like a couple weeks I'm like, what the fuck My fans are the best Shout out to my fans, we love you We're going to miss you This is the last week of tour Dude, I'm going to miss you I'm back at the beginning of December I know, you're like part of the you. Yeah, we're going to miss you. This is the last week of tour. Dude, I'm going to miss you. I'm back the beginning of December. I know.

You're like part of the family now. Yeah, thanks. I appreciate that. I wonder if like Little Stranger gets like kind of like salty when you're with us and you're just laughing and having a great time. No, it's like off season if they don't have something else going and I'm just in training camp. Let's fucking go. That's my dog. That's my dog. Let's go.

How's the rap career going? Are we going to do a collab soon? I think we should. I sent you that track. Oh, we got something in the works. I didn't know if you want to tell them yet. Yeah, I mean, we're going to get you. We're going to get Skippy on for a full hour one of these days.

Do it. Let's do it. When you put out a record and stuff. I got one coming up. When is it coming? I'm not going to announce that yet. Okay. Oh, see. That's the difference between me and stuff. I got one coming up. When is it coming? I'm not going to announce that yet. Oh, see. That's the difference between me and you.

I just blab my mouth. Yeah, we're opening for this. Before anything's announced and everyone's like, what the fuck? You're fucking scramble brain. I also don't want to say it and then it not happen. I respect that. We love to see it. We'll go out there

Go do the inventory for merch We're selling a lot Thank you everyone for buying merch That's keeping us alive It means the world It's like how we could hire great photographers Em get over here We need some more estrogen

In the group And we got Em Em This is our Our band photographer Say hello, Em Hi How you doing?

How you doing, Em? Good, I'm good Day one of tour Day one of tour We're gonna make a calendar We are What are we gonna do? Put the mic closer

We're gonna do All of the things You had a great idea Yeah We're gonna do a band calendar It's gonna to be sexy Show the sexiness of this band Best Christmas present

Show the outside of touring off stage I think you're going to love this for our Christmas gift Or not gift because you have to buy it But Em is one of the best photographers out there We're going for the angles We're going for the emotion How are you feeling about being with a bunch of dudes

On this tour We're not smelly Not too bad, everybody's very well behaved And cleans up after themselves And taking care of each other I couldn't feel safer Or like I'm in a better place If anything were to go down

This guy's got my back We will fuck them up If anyone fucks with you, I'm your family. I can't wait to see all the amazing art you're going to bring to this world. And yeah,

this is just the beginning. We're taking you out more and more now. It's going to be fucking fun. We need that estrogen. We need that. Watch out. We need that.

I need that. Got the glitter. So I don't have to... Sometimes I get really like too alpha male-y. Sometimes when I listen to sports and like fart in front of everyone

oh we're gonna watch makeup competition shows yes we're gonna watch reality TV oh my god can we binge watch all that shit

yes let's go I fucking love it god this is great my life is in a great spot right now we got the ladies taking care of us

I just I'm so thankful you're on the tour with us I'm so thankful just let me know anytime you get irritated with anyone, talk to us.

Communicate. Doing it. We're going to powwow. Don't suppress. Never. And yeah, because I like our morning coffees

where we just like don't talk and just scroll on Instagram. It's research, right? It is. We're researching. Yeah, we're researching jokes.

All right, go out there. Thank you so much. We love you. And we got another crew member, baby. Let's go, baby. We're estrogen in the building. Let's go. We love it.

But this has been amazing. This tour has been amazing. We're super stoked. Everything's been cool. Speaking of cool, cool, cool, cool is the shit. We had a bonding of bond. No, we should get Sammy.

Sammy and Greg. Sammy and Greg, get over here for a second. We're getting you on the podcast right now. We need to talk about this. You guys just got married. Come on, get over here. Sammy Garrett, how we doing? Greg. Hey.

We love it. We had the best bond last night. Oh my God, that was incredible. That was incredible. Why don't my god that was Incredible Why don't That was incredible Why don't bands do that more I don't know Like all of us together Having dinner on our days off

It's just like It was It just makes the camaraderie So much better Eat Italian food Listen to the Godfather Theme music While we eat spaghetti

Drinking bottles of wine I know We loved it So you guys are married I gotta ask you this What is it like Being on tour As a married couple? Is it weird?

Do you see each other every day or is it just normal? Another day in the office. No, it's just normal. Yeah, I don't think it's weird at all. Actually, we've been doing it forever. It feels good. We have a partner always. Yeah.

You're never just like out on your own. I mean, you know, we can be when we need to, but yeah, it's awesome. And you guys aren't like crazy alcoholics like i am or it's like you want you roll and one person rolls into the hotel at like 4 a.m you guys like in the bed 2 2 a.m you know we we have our nights though where we you know go out and yeah and i'll come back at 4 a.m and who know you know but then we can also yeah we choose our moments for sure yes this is what I loved about you We're all like Yo let's get another round of beer

After At the after party She's like I'd like some Chips Ahoy cookies please And some milk And some whole milk Just a little sweet snack

But I had a I had a great time I know We had so much fun I was taking shots of tequila And drinking milk Which is maybe not good Damn

It's definitely the ingredients For vomit But I was fine Damn you're gonna shit yourself Sammy Jesus Christ I mean she hit the Jameson bottle on me I did I did I do that

That was my favorite moment That was my favorite moment of the tour You're like acting all cool and shit Like smoked it And then fucking just like What the fuck did I just do But it's been great Doing No Doubt with you guys

Oh my gosh It's been a fucking blast I love you guys We love you guys It's like Were you worried at first? Were y'all worried like Absolutely not

Really? Like we're crazy people Zero worry It's just like You guys are just Like a bunch of mush balls I love you In like the best way possible

You're the best Cool, cool, cool You're the best I love it You guys gonna be Are you guys gonna be doing More touring or what? More touring

Bunch of recording Writing stuff Let's go Yeah I fucking love it Let's fucking go Greg, you're the man I love you, brother

I can tell you have a big dick You know why I can tell you Have a big dick? Cause you're just chill Just chill, man So chill I feel like We were talking about

Hey, Skippy Haven't we been talking About Greg's hog We're like he's got a hog It's massive We can't stop talking about it He's been texting me We were like

We're doing an over under of like how big the hog is Cause like you know like quiet dudes You know just like Confident I see it in your face The man's got a hog Guys enjoy your marriage We love you guys

Thank you We love you guys And I'm gonna Let's cherish these last three days of tour Let's fucking go I fucking love it I love you guys We love you

Cool cool cool It's in the fucking building Thanks guys so much I love you guys Oh god this is the best tour ever You know what fuck it We gotta get the tour manager in here Christopher Christopher Malafonke.

Buddy. I thought I just barely missed it. Nope. You're in. Thank God. I don't have to do this. My man. He knows the man who is in the band and also the tour manager driving. Get closer so you get over here.

I mean, you're a hot guy. We're going to pimp out... We're going to pimp out your singleness. Andrew. We need to get this man laid, people. Andrew. Podcast people. If you are looking for

a man who does everything, rents vans, plays a killer trumpet, Whoa, thank you. advances shows, gets paid at night when everyone else is fucked up, this is our guy.

Chris, how you doing? I'm doing great, man. You feeling good about this tour? I'm feeling great about this tour. Thank you for having us. Dude, you're the best. It's been a blast. We were talking last night and I think realized that

you guys were on the road with us when we were with Turquoise. Our first ever tour. First ever tour. Yeah. And this is basically like our first ever tour as Cool Cool Cool, being out on our own, doing our own thing. It's fucking awesome. And so here we are.

Like what a crazy world this is. It comes from right back around. That's the beautiful thing about the music industry. That's why you can't burn any bridges. This is so true. And this is like the number one. It keeps you humble. This is the number one thing that I feel like I've learned over the many, many years we've been doing this is that it comes back around.

And you see the same people, the same friends that you make and the people that you treat well. You keep seeing them. Right. These people and they come back around. And it's really an industry of people that you know and making connections. And that's why it is important to treat people well. And to have a good attitude.

And to just put your best foot forward. And that's what we're trying to do here. Let's fucking go, Chris. That's why you're doing big things, baby. Let's fucking go. But it's true. I'm bummed we waited fucking till the end of the tour to have that family dinner. But we've been just on two paths. It's true. Like that's what I want. Like I'm bummed we waited fucking till the end of the tour to have that family dinner.

But we've been like just on two paths, you know. It's true. You guys have been driving overnight through the night to get there. We've been doing more or less the same. And it's been busy. But we're both out here killing it. I love it. It's been awesome to see all of you guys just being successful and having a great time.

And we're right there with you, like having a great time. I know. This has been fun as hell. Chris, this has been great. I'll say, you know, what's very fascinating, because I used to do this too. I'd advance. I would have to, I'd be in the band. I'd have to get paid after the show.

Like, you're doing everything. You rented the van. I mean, you're basically running the show here. Has it changed the dynamic of the friendship that you have with your brotherhood and sisterhood of this band because you are the boss you know it's it's this is something like it's not necessarily new for me because back we've been touring together for so many years and i at the beginning what i was doing the same thing um many years ago tour managing driving doing the books right payouts, the whole thing.

So this is kind of, you know, and we got to a point where I didn't have to do that every day. But this, you know, basically starting again with Cool Cool Cool is like it's all hands on deck. And come at this whole experience with the things that we've learned over all the years. And we, you know, we learned how to do it, you know, how to do it right by doing it wrong so many ways first. And now that we have really the opportunity to start over in this way, it's like, okay,

let's use those lessons. Let's not make the same mistakes we did. Let's support each other. Let's all love each other and just want to lift each other up. I mean, that's half the battle, right? It sounds cheesy, but it's like it, when you're out here grinding and you're on day five in a row and everyone's on zero sleep

and, you know, it's just like, we just got to get through this one. That's when it really, like, you can't be chippy and,

you know, not be supportive of your, of your fellow band members and, you know, family. Like, we're,

we're a big family out here. And I bet you, you learned, you know, it didn I bet you you learned, it didn't hurt that you learned from fucking Zac Brown, going on tour with Zac Brown in the horn section. It was terrific. How can we replicate

that kind of professionalism and honestly just energy and feeling because they treat each other with respect too. You see that at the highest levels. People aren't trying to chop each other down so they can climb up. It's like no, they're supporting each other. So like let's

keep that. Yeah, that's one of the weird things people think like you have to just be an asshole to be on the top. No, music isn't like that. I mean, it's a collaborative thing in the first place. Absolutely. People think like you got to fucking be cutthroat. You got to fucking chew everyone out, throw everyone under the bus.

No, you could be nice and still be successful. Totally. Yes, you have to be. And there's a time and a place to stand your ground. Right. And you have to know when to say like, nope, that's a boundary. We're not going to cross that. Right.

I'm not going to let you dick me around. Right. You know, whatever. You know, if it's like getting paid, it's like, hey, no, this is, here's the agreement. Here's the contract here's the contract We're leaving here with that Don't make me call John That's my show pony

Don't make us call Bongiorno Do not make us call Bongiorno Bookers talent bookers don't make us call John Because he will wake up And if we wake him up from his precious sleep He barely gets He will kill a motherfucker He will rain fire down upon you Well Chris it's been an honor from his precious sleep he barely gets, he will kill a motherfucker.

He will rain fire down upon you. Well, Chris, it's been an honor. You know, we always hang. We always do these shows, but we never had like real hang. I feel like we're bonding here. Yeah, this has been a good hang, man. All right, Chris, thanks for being on the show.

You're the best. You're the best. Everyone is the shit. We love everyone here so much. Love you, bro. Yeah, be safe out there. And let's not take these four shows for granted. Let's go pop it. Hell yeah. Awesome. Hell yeah, dude. Love you, buddy. Love you bro Yeah be safe out there And let's Let's not Let's not take these four shows for granted Let's go pop it off Hell yeah

Awesome Hell yeah dude Love you buddy Love you Thank you That's Christopher From Cool Cool Cool God

What a fucking vibe You know I love the unexpected tours You know it's like You come in there like At first I was worried Like fuck They have like 8,000 people in their band

I'm like fuck This is gonna be a pain in the ass But We all work together and when you take the perspective out of it's going to be difficult having this many people backloading, offloading on stage,

then if you take that perspective out before you do something and just be there with a clean slate, everything works out beautifully. I said, fuck that. I used to be the person who just went into things thinking, oh, fuck that. I used to be the person who just went into things thinking, oh, fuck, this is going to be fucked up. The minute I stopped doing that was the minute I started enjoying life.

We can't stereotype things, people, before it even happens because that is what's going to get us in depression holes. That's what's going to get us judging. Why are we judging people? Why are we judging things? Let's have a clean slate, have an open conversation with whoever we need to and just fucking enjoy life. Fuck.

We're stressed out. Everyone's all stressed out. Take a deep breath and realize that we're going to make it through this shit. That's what Elle Duncan, I'm so excited you're going to hear this. I'm a sports you're going to hear this. I'm a sports geek, and she goes further than just sports, people. So you're going to love this interview. Elle is, she's just a pop culture extraordinaire.

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Plus Nick is going to be on for next week. Me and Nick are going to be on for next week. Me and Nick are going to do an hour to talk about, just recap the tour a little bit. I know you guys are interested in what the fuck's been going down in these streets.

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Or if you're just a listener, just a fan, they have all these live streams. Or if you want to stock pot, we have all, every episode on the season is on my volume.com slash Andy Frasco. So if you want to rewatch a couple podcasts, if you want to get up to date with a few, I've been adding podcasts on Fridays.

I don't know if you've been seeing that because we have so many fucking interviews I haven't even posted yet. We're getting close to the end of the season. Every couple weeks, I'm going to add another one. Maybe next week I'll add another one. Pete Francis,

formerly of Dispatch. That story's insane. Or maybe Dan Reeder. I love Dan Reeder. I want to get these out there because these are all important interviews. I really want to get you going on them. All right, guys. We're done. I got to get these out there Because these are all important interviews I really want to get you going Alright guys, we're done I got to go sound check We're in Richmond, Virginia, which I love

Shout out to Richmond What a great fucking city Food culture The bar scene It's hipster I feel like it's hip as fuck There's still a little bit of Confederate wild stuff.

I feel like there's some Confederate flags on Priuses out here. Sometimes I feel like it's hip. It's progressive. Then you see, oh yeah, there's a little racism in here as well. What can you do? It's the South, baby. All right. We love you. Be safe out there. Stay happy.

Stay inspired. Be who you want to be. Surround yourself with people you want to hang out with because you got to realize you're your own person. And let's just be happy. None of this bullshit. None of this pity me shit. Stop marinating shit and let's get bound to business.

All right. Enjoy Elle Duncan and I'll see you next week with Nick. Boom. Boom.. Enjoy Elle Duncan and I'll see you next week with Nick. Boom. Boom. Hey Elle, how you doing? Hi, what's up guys? What are you doing? How are you? The hardest working woman in show business. You got so many things going on. Yeah. I thought you were going to say hardest whooping. I was like, it feels like that every day. It's not even noon and I feel like I got my ass beat already. Yeah, how's it going? What is the day in the life for you as a sports anchor? What time do you wake up?

How do you have to get your news? Give me the whole nine for working for ESPN. Yeah, well, my kids usually wake me up around 6.30 or 6.45 with screams of, can I get a donut or whatever? They're five and two and a half. So it really just like my day really starts once I actually ship them off to school. So once I'm back home at 830, I'll probably spend a couple of hours just looking at the influx of games I couldn't get to the night before. unlike other colleagues that I have that are sports specific, I'm sports center. We literally talk about everything, you know, like I might have to know a little bit about Korean baseball. So I'll try to spend a couple of hours catching up.

But honestly, we really have like a really, really, really deep team. I mean, I've got on my 6 p.m. sports center, guys, there's probably 25 people that work on it. I've got researchers that can give me any nonsensical stat you could think of. And I've got news editors that literally are there only to make sure that I didn't say dumb shit or inaccurate things. And producers and segment producers. So it's a factory. It's a well-oiled machine.

And we lean on a lot of people, honestly. Yeah, it's great. I always wonder about that with 24-hour news is like how do you keep the news fresh how do you keep like each content fresh with like you're on all the time and like how do all these other like do you have your own personal producer or just are you basically just like trying to skim fat as much as you can to try to get more content i was gonna say what do you mean how do i keep it fresh i've ever watched any sports television we don't we all just say the same thing um we all just watch the we all just watch the show before and we're like

well they were talking about that let's just talk about that new games every day that's how they keep it fresh yeah Yeah, exactly. Is Michael Jordan or LeBron James the greatest? We just try out conversations like that as often as possible. Finally, we're talking about that. Finally. Someone wants to get the bottom of that. It's LeBron. I think here's the beautiful thing about sports.

Just like anything else in life, right? I mean, you guys do a podcast. Sometimes you've got tons of content for the podcast. Sometimes you're limping to the finish line. And that's kind of... We're in a great season. It is a robust season. There's a lot to talk about.

We've got the NFL. We've got college football. Baseball is about to get to a point where everyone will suddenly tune in and care. NBA is about to pick back up. In the months in June and July and the summer, it's very lean. It's very hard. That's where you're going to start getting a lot of those manufactured conversations and where people are just sort of being,

you know, like flamboyant for the sake of doing it. But, you know, the beautiful thing with sports guys is that it really does change all the time. And then these stories come that you didn't anticipate like primetime, like coach prime at Colorado.

I mean, what he's done at CU was not at all a storyline that we thought we'd be talking about ad nauseum the first four weeks of the season. Yeah, it's true. What a gift that's been. You guys are in Colorado, right? Yeah, we're in Denver.

It's all anyone talks about here. It's all anyone talks about. People suddenly care about college football in Colorado. I know, it's so funny. It's like these rich white dudes who don't even give a shit about football normally. Yeah, exactly. It's like, oh I know. It's so funny. It's like these rich white dudes who don't even give a shit about football normally. It's like, oh my God.

Dion's here. Yeah, I was just in Boulder. Full disclosure, whole family, both sides, all from Denver. Colorado runs... Yeah. I was in Boulder to cover the Rocky Mountain showdown with Colorado State. Yeah. And, and, um, and I was in Boulder to cover, you know, the, the, the Rocky

mountain showdown with Colorado state last week. Oh, and I'm not going to lie. You know, I never spent a ton of time in Boulder. My mom told me stories of that's where all the hippies commuted in the sixties and seventies and they never left. And that, but listening to all of these like third, fourth and fifth generation hippies try to quote Deion Sanders has been particularly cringy. He's on fleek. Yeah, we here. Yeah, we here. We not coming, we here.

I'm like, oh no. It's been interesting. I think Deion's just got a different kind of sauce than Boulder has been used to. But I love that they're embracing him. Yeah, it's important. I don't know. It's like all those guys like last week went to Grateful Dead at Folsom Field. Now they're rooting for Deion.

Now they're all saying bulls junk. No one in Boulder can swear anymore because of Deion. He doesn't swear. He says that's all that bull junk. All that bull junk. What made you fall in love with sports? What made you fall in love with radio?

What made you fall in love with being a personality on television? Well, I think for sports, I just was raised in a sports family. It really comes from my mom. People are always like, did you get your love of sports from your dad? I'm like, no, my mom is a fanatic. And so just our whole life sort of revolved around us playing sports or us watching the Broncos. And so it was sort of just foundational to me growing up.

And then as I got older, I think I realized for a long time, I thought I wanted to be an actress because I just knew I didn't want to do a desk job. I was like, it's not I'm too ADD. It's just not for me. I've got a lot of energy. I've got a lot of weird quirks that I can that I can do. So when I went out to Hollywood at 19 with like one hundred and fifty dollars after four months, I realized maybe I don't want to be an actress. I like food. I like to eat. I like't want to be an actress. Maybe I like food, right? Maybe I like to eat, right? Like I like a place to live. Um, and so I think what I realized in that process was I,

I had thought I wanted to play other people because I wanted to play for a living. But what I realized is I would rather be me. So I thought broadcasting would be, um, a great place to sort of, you know, have an opportunity to be yourself, but also, you know, play into a character and entertain and all those other things that I find really interesting. So that was sort of the goal. And I did sports radio. I was a paid intern. I was a receptionist at a hair salon up the street from the salon. And I would take my lunch break and I would go over to the radio station, hop on the radio station for my 15 minute hit, giving entertainment and like gross stories on the internet. Um, and then I'd go back to work and I did that. And then that led to a job in hip hop

radio in Atlanta that led to, you know, me finally sort of pivoting full time into sports. Um, and yeah, I just think I'm one of those people that I love. It sounds really, really corny and cliche, but my favorite thing in the world, I think maybe my best talent in the world is my ability to connect with people. I love hearing stories. I love sharing stories. I love giving people energy. I love filling up a room. I like figuring out what the room needs and providing that.

And so being able to sort of do a lot of different platforms in a lot of different spaces has allowed me to touch into all of those things that are sort of innate in me. Anyway, I'd be doing all of this same stuff, um, say for the camera being in my face, of course, if I wasn't doing it for a living. So I'm really blessed in that way, you know, that I get to just show up every day and, and be, be myself. Who told, told who who's the first one that really told you that you could be yourself and follow dreams my parents yeah i'm bringing all kinds of cliches um and they would what i always remember my mom was just like how she was just incensed like she would see other people and it wasn't that she was hating it's just that she she'd see other people sort of doing what

i wanted to do and be like there's no damn way you can't do that i know you can do that you know um and they always provided me a cushion you know i don't know y'all's background but i will say this it's a lot easier to be brave and bold you know all these idioms and all these expressions people tell you fortune favors the bold and all that bullshit it's a lot easier to jump and leap and fly and all that crap when you know you've got a net under you. And my parents always made sure I knew that if I wanted to pursue my crazy dreams, that they would always support me in any possible way. And sometimes that meant financial aid. So they never ended up having to, but knowing I always had that really helped me when I was making decisions like taking a pay cut to

move to Boston, one of the most expensive cities in the country, and live with spiders. So I knew that if it didn't work out and if I left, I had a break glass in case of emergency plan. So having them has been so instrumental to the 20-year journey I've been on. Do sports fans annoy you? Or do you like them? Yes. They feel like they're annoying. Do you have a family member who you love? Right?

You love that you're going to get fireworks from them at a family reunion, but then you love to see them leave. Yeah, yeah. That's my relationship with sports fans. I think I am that person. Are you? I think I am that guy in my film. Are you? No, I'm just kidding.

What's your go-to? Are you like the drunk cousin? Everybody has their moniker. I'm just like the guy that's always picking it. I like to make fun of everybody constantly. I'm that guy. But I'm the oldest. That's kind of my job. Yeah, I show up high on shrooms at the family reunions.

He's the wild card. I'm like the one that's like, we're going to get a little comedy. That's what I thought. I keep thinking about this. It's got to be tough. What did you like more? Being on the radio or doing television, doing sports?

It feels like radio would be such a better job. You don't have to be put on makeup. You could just like, kind of just do your personality. I feel like you're going to wake up now at fucking 8am after you're like, your kids are yelling at you and shit. And you gotta be dolled up and you gotta be on like radio. You could kind of like,

don't have to be on as much while your voice does, but like you could, you could see it in your eyes, right? When sometimes you're having a shitty day. Oh yeah. You can wear pajamas to work and shit like that. And you can literally be like, like eating, like you can like have your, I would eat,

like I would take a bite of my sandwich and just have my co-host like wax poetic while I like finished my breakfast sandwich when I did radio. I will say too, um, the disappointment and sadness in people's face, like when you do radio, right? People assume that you're busted, right? A face for radio is an expression for reason. So then people see you and they're like pleasantly surprised, right? They're like, okay.

Conversely, because I do television and I have an entire team of people who's like whole ass job it is to make me look like a glamazon. When they see me out in the wild, just looking like, you know, a homeless mom, because that's pretty much what I look like every day. They're just so fucking disappointed. And it's just, it's like really, they're just like, Oh, you don't. I had a guy, you guys, I swear to God, the other day, Dave and busters. I can see him staring at me i'm with my kids i can it's like a wednesday at like noon okay and i can see him looking at me and i'm like what

he comes over before he even says hello he comes over and he goes i'm gonna be honest i know who you are and i'm just trying to compartmentalize what i'm seeing here oh what I see at night. Dude, you're at Dave and Buster's too. Like with a belly. It's always the ones, right? You're short, you've got a belly and you're balding. But yes, by all means, sir, come over and talk about how I look. It was just the audacity

I think. Television brings out a breed of people who, you know, before if I said something on the radio that you didn't like, you'd just be like Audacity, I think. Television brings out a breed of people who... Before, if I said something on the radio that you didn't like, you'd just be like, shut the fuck up. Just a regular... When it comes to television, it immediately goes physical. You're ugly, you're fat, you're stupid, you're lame, whatever.

And so I think that audacity of people on television has been really interesting. But I will say I like the money better in TV than radio. Yeah, let's go. Let's go. Make that money, queen. Make that money. You've got to really work for that radio money. You've got to work 75 hours a week.

You've got to make car dealership appearances. You've got to sign autographs with the public. You've got to do a lot of shit for that money. You've got to go to concerts you don't want to go to, probably. And I guarantee that guy's not saying levitard's ugly and that fool's ugly as shit you know lebitard sneaky a very tall man really i thought he'd be

like five six honestly he's huge he's like six five what it's it almost like yeah i swear to god like you meet him in person and you're like, Jesus, you're a really big man. He is very tall. Is he taller than Scott Van Pelt? It's shocking. Is he taller than Scott Van Pelt? No. He's close, though.

They're right there. I mean, Van Pelt's very tall. He's huge. They're close. Yeah. Going back to this idea of these people just coming up to you and kind of just talking shit in front of your face, do you think it's sexist in sports

because you're a woman doing sports? Oh, yeah. No, I don't. I think some people just weren't raised right and don't have coots. Yeah, they're fucking assholes. Right? I've got male colleagues that will tell you people say the same

thing to them. Like, oh, you look so much smaller in person or whatever. I think people just... I think people have this inability to understand that words have meaning. And also, I think that because so many people can just blindly

say whatever the fuck they want to on social media, they almost forget that, that there's a filter in real life. Like, just say it in your head. You know what I mean? Like, I'm a firm believer. I don't give a shit if you talk about me behind my back it's none of my business i don't care i prefer it say all those things about me behind my back this idea that we want truth tellers to come up and say their truth to us no i don't yeah fuck you stop bothering me and don't waste my day let's

fucking go al keep your truth to yourself people Honestly, just talk about me behind my back. I don't care. I don't even know. But do you think it's the idea like you're in their television at 6 o'clock when they get off work. They feel like you're their only friend. Some of these fucking, you know. Then they feel like they get connected to you.

And then they see you. They think like. So like you're asking like maybe they don't see her as a real person maybe. Yeah, I think about like Howard Stern. Like I'm doing the Stern show on Monday. they think like so like you're asking like maybe they don't see her as a real person maybe yeah i think about like howard stern like i'm i'm doing the stern show on monday and i feel like i've known every i know everything about him right now yeah yeah and i feel like i'm gonna be a complete idiot when i'm like asking him about metamucin and stuff yeah like he's like you are who are you again yeah but like do you get that do people feel a little too comfortable with you when they see you on the street or anything?

Yeah, I think that people sort of have said too, and I try to be patient with people because I do the same thing, where people almost write it off as it's a price that you pay, right? Like you get to be on TV, you get to make all this money talking about sports, you get to get your hair and makeup done. to be on TV. You get to make all this money talking about sports. You get to get your hair and makeup done. You get to live this life and therefore I get to dismantle how you look or say things about

you or get in your business or get personal because at the end of the day you can't complain who would listen. I think that we do sort of the same thing with movie stars or where we just have no sympathy or empathy for them in any way, because we just assume, well, this is the price that they have to pay for the ability to live this incredible life in Hollywood and have servants and all these things that we just assume these rich people have. And

so, um, yes, I do. I think that people have such a disconnection between the athletes or the people that they see on TV or the people that they listen to on podcasts because they just assume, you know, that that's the cross that you have to bear. And at the end of the day, it's still better than what they have to do, right? Go to jobs that they hate, get paid a lot less money than you do. And so, um, I try to understand like, you know, that it's sort of the human condition to want to tear people down ultimately, um, or to, to humble them. Um, but I would say that like, before you become sort of the human condition to want to tear people down ultimately or to, to humble them. But I would say that like before you become sort of the bearer of humility, ask yourself if that person needs it and,

or if that person is, is goes home and is incredibly grateful and thankful and, and works really hard and help support an entire group and ecosystem of people. I mean, your podcast, there's a lot of people that work on it that depend on you. And so I think while we're so busy trying to tear down the subject, we should remember as well that there's a whole group of people that depend on

them, that depend on their resources and their ability to appeal to you. So keep that in mind too. What if you have like a, like a take that someone doesn't agree on? Are they deep in your DMS? Are they like talking shit DMs? Are they talking shit? Do you read all that stuff? I'd be nervous about all that shit. I'd be like, but you don't give a shit. You throw the hot takes and you say fuck it.

I don't care. Here's the reason why. Because I can defend every one of my takes. I do not say inflammatory takes. I say exactly how I feel. It's not for the sake of ratcheting up controversy or anything like that. But also, what I ultimately learned, guys, is that all of it is poison. The good, bad, and ugly.

You're not as good as they say you are. You're not as bad as they say you are. You're not the best anchor that ever lived. You're not the worst anchor that ever lived. You're not the smartest or the stupidest. You're none of really those things. Ultimately, as a woman on television,

I am much more concerned, not with a guy who tweets at me my mugshot or calls me a moron. I'm much more concerned with the guy that sends me a video of him masturbating, which also happens quite frequently. That, to me,

all the time. Why don't people realize that is a crime? Yeah. Yeah. And it's like very easy to trace who did it. And like, what do they think it's hot? Like it's a dick. It doesn't look hot.

A dick is not hot. No, they're very ugly looking. And also, like, I just, I guess I wonder, and I have a lot of colleagues.

This happens to a lot of colleagues this happens to a lot of them i was just i was just texting with a very famous uh television personality like last week about this and she was like oh i just got one wonder if it's our same guy want to compare um but yeah i never thought about that the same guy might be right yeah they make that oh they make the circuit there's a guy actually who is guy actually who has frequented ESPN for years. And what he claims is he claims to have a charity where he takes shoes from people that are famous, worn shoes. And he claims that if you sign the shoes, you send them back and then he auctions them off for charity. That's his claim.

But what he really does is he's just got a foot fetish, so he just gets you to send him shoes so he can smell them. He's just smelling them. At least that's not invasive, I guess. Yeah, he doesn't come up to you and touch your foot. He can't get access to you. We have security gates. But that's his whole thing

is pretending to have this charity that donates. And I'm sure that there are charities that do that. Just this man does not have security gates. But that's his whole thing is pretending to have this charity that donates. And I'm sure that there are charities that do that. Just this man does not have that charity. And he's always really insistent that the shoes are worn. He'll say it multiple times. If there's foot sweat, I like to see footprints. He's like, that legitimizes that you wore them. He's real into it.

His mother must be so proud of him. It's like, why do you... But my thing is, who does that work on? I don't know. Has that ever worked in the history that you send a picture of yourself pleasing yourself or a video and someone's like, I like what I see. What time? Does that work?

Someone that wasn't asked for at all? This is why women are way more developed than men. Women aren't just sending vagina shots like straight like hey what's up you know like it's not a fucking thing that would might work though actually if women did it no then you get the we don't have to you guys are too simple i mean the girl literally sends you of a picture of just her being like this yeah that's enough for y'all you don't need a vagina picture really it really is actually it's so true it's very little

give me one take before like i want to talk about the dui thing because i think this is bullshit that you got dui for a point zero nine nine that's baloney but first i want to talk about like who who's the worst sports fan base in the country yeah who's like and why is it such assholes and why is it boston yeah yeah i'm a Laker fan. I want to talk about Kobe too. I will say rest in peace winning time, by the way. I can't believe it ended with Boston winning.

It ended with Boston winning. Boston winning? Worst fan base in terms of insufferable is Philadelphia still. It's Philly. worst fan base in terms of insufferable yeah yeah is philadelphia still oh thank you hot take philly fans are philly fans are pretty insufferable i say that just because boston fans they're horrible to everybody else but they have the i think personally having lived there i think they have the highest sports acumen i think their sports iq is out of here they know the history

the present the future damn near sometimes. And I think they obviously just have a legacy of winning, and it's Boston. So we don't love the makeup of their fan base. But I would say in terms of just I could still send my parents to a Braves game at Fenway. I would never send my parents to a Braves

game at the Phillies Park. I would never do that. They did throw batteries at Santa Claus one Park. I would never do that. They did throw batteries at Santa Claus one time. That really happened. They're really mean. They know no bounds.

They're the opposite of the Bills fans. Who's the most casual? Who's the most racist fan base? Back to Boston. You're trying to get me to go to Boston. It's Boston.

He just wants you to talk shit about Celtics fans. I'm so heated about this winning time thing. He's like, what city in Massachusetts? And their basketball team wears green. And their best player of all time is white. See, I'm a Laker fan. Are we obnoxious? We always think everyone's coming to our team. Are we obnoxious to you, Elle? Entitled, maybe? No, not at all. You're Hollywood.

More entitled, I think. Yes, I think that people would say probably entitled, but I also think that when it comes to the Lakers specifically there's not a single person that defects to the rate to the lakers where someone goes i don't understand i don't get it right like i i get it i think we get it especially for a guy like lebron as you move a little later in your career um i think the whole everything else that hollywood brings along with it the ability to have a production company and all those other things that are important to do business at the entertainment epicenter of the world is,

is, um, is pretty good too. So no Lakers fans, you guys are all right with me in the order. It's Philly fans, Boston fans. And then I will put the Yankees there too.

I put the Yankees just because they've, they've caused a lot of stuff. I got one more fan base question. I like all the Cleveland teams. Are we the saddest fan base in America? Yeah. It's got to be us. Minnesota's pretty bad. It's got to be Cleveland, though.

I still get pleasure in picking at Minnesota. I don't get pleasure in picking on Cleveland fans anymore. It's like kicking a puppy. Now Nick Chubb is kicking a puppy. Nick Chubb's career might be over now. We've had the best running back in the league and now he might be done forever.

That was the most gruesome. If we won't even replay it, you know it's horrible. They wouldn't replay it during the game. That's devastating. Former dog, obviously, go dogs. I will say this though. A lot of your suffering

got a little bit better after you guys Won at least the NBA championship And I do know that You guys are a football town and with all the Heartache, I am a Broncos fan We gave you a little bit of that heartache I do know that like You care more about football and that's important

But I would say still If I'm just thinking about the saddest fan bases ever, just because they will have, like you guys have never really been there, right? You guys are lovable, straight up lovable losers. I'm still going to say the saddest fan base of all time is the Bills.

That's our producer's team. It's like you were the best loser of all time. Yeah, I know. Four in a row? That's almost impossible. And now they're almost getting there and not winning again. Josh Allen keeps fumbling every time. They're not even getting there now.

Let me ask your producer. Would you rather go every year and lose the Super Bowl or just aggressively not get closer to it? A couple years ago, we were in the conference championships. Now we're getting bounced in the division rounds. I'm just wondering, producer. What do you think, Bo?

I think he'd... Yeah, he'd lose. I think he's... She wants to know if you'd rather go to the Super Bowl and lose every year or like lose in the first round of the playoffs. First round. Like they're doing now.

First round. You said first round. That'd be more heartbreaking. Really? I couldn't do that. I'd rather be there in the Super Bowl, in the championship, and lose. At least you feel something for a little bit. The Browns are so bad.

They have three losses that have nicknames. The drive, the fumble, and red-right 88. That's incredible. Two of them are Broncos. Why do we take sports and celebrities so goddamn to heart? I have no idea. I wish I knew because my mentions wouldn't look the way that they look. I have no idea.

I do honestly believe that there is no real outrage. I stand on that. I stand on the fact that Twitter outrage is not real outrage. And that just because you tweet that you're upset about something or that something is devastating to you no it isn't no it is not it's not you're still gonna go to your job you're still gonna fucking pick your kids up from school you're not gonna like put your foot down and say like this is where i draw the line i just think that like people pretend now to care more about things than they actually do because it's become much easier to express your outrage and your anger. And in fact, not to get crazy serious on you, but I've got a friend that works in the activism space.

And she's like, the worst thing that ever happened to activism is social media. And you would think that wouldn't be true. Look at all the GoFundMes and Kickstarters and all these great things that have come about fundraising through social media. She's like, but the problem is people think because they posted their tweet, oh, this is my opinion on this, or hey, go vote for this, that they're done. That they don't actually have to do anything in their community.

They don't actually have to go and volunteer. They don't actually have to go and impact any real change because they feel like they're Twitter activists. So they're like, I did what I did, and we're good to go now. And that's just not the case. I'd rather you shut the fuck up, lay out, and actually do something in your community

that I don't know about. Let's fucking go, Al. That's what I'm talking about. Our queen. It's bullshit because I blame it on ADHD social media culture again that we're forgetting shit after six seconds. It's also performative.

People like to be performative. Yeah, but they're not doing anything about it. It's just like you're a keyboard warrior. That's also performative. People like to be performative. Yeah, but they're not doing anything about it. It's just like you're a keyboard warrior. That's what performative is though. Yeah, that's what it is. Thumbs up. I like to call them thumbs up. Also, Twitter, people think Twitter

represents what people actually think in the real world. It really doesn't. It's a very small segment of people. It's not, you know what I mean, but they're just loud. So people think that that's like, everyone's mad. It's like, no, it's 18 people on Twitter. you know what I mean but they're just loud So people think that that's like Everyone's mad it's like no it's 18 people on Twitter You know what I mean Well you could say that about 24 hour news with like the Cuomo's of the world

And like you know The Bill O'Reilly's and like you know like Isn't that the same thing or no It's I think the problem is guys is that we've got Like we've got We have confused what Bloggers and journalists and writers and op-eds, we just confused what they all are. And we sort of paint everybody with the broad media stroke.

And then we say things like, the media is the monster. But the truth of the matter is, when someone is getting paid, you know, $100 or $150 per article or per paragraph to put a story up on Yahoo. And that's how they make their living. Then you're going to get those stories that say things like, there's huge debate over weather, blah, blah, blah. And then they're going to go take a couple of tweets from nobodies with six or seven followers, and then they're going to put them in the article. And then all of a sudden, on the front of your Yahoo timeline, you see there's outrage on social. And that's bullshit. It's someone that needed to put that story out, collected a couple of tweets, made it a thing.

And it becomes this echo chamber. And that's why I've really started to try to get off of it in general. Because, of course, I'm not going to follow. I'm not one of those people that's mature and elevated enough to say, I'm going to follow people whose opinions I don't respect. Like, fuck that. I don't want to hear it. I don't respect you and I don't want to hear your opinion. But I also noticed that you start living in an echo chamber and you're only seeing the

same news feed. You and your friends are all reacting to the same few stories and it's like, this isn't healthy either. None of this is particularly healthy. You do have to be more intentional nowadays of where you find your information. There is real journalism still out there. There is places where you just go to get your news and there's no opinion and there's no extra any. You just got to look a little more nowadays, right? You've got to try. But just to say that it doesn't exist anymore in some vacuums, bullshit. What's your definition of real journalism?

real journalism to me a real like i'm not a real journalist i'm not and i'm able to be the first to say that i'm an entertainer i like to do the e and espn because there are journalistic principles that you're supposed to go by when you go to journalism school and you learn about all those things namely you're not supposed to have an opinion you're supposed to present the facts you are essentially chronicling history that's your job is to just journal you know you're journaling history like you're chronicling what is happening as it is happening. And you are leaving the people out there to come up with those opinions. The problem now is when you go on the New York times, what they'll do is they'll slide in, you know, New York times opinion article, but the opinion part is very tiny. And then it's on the front page. And then all of a sudden you think on the front page of the New

York times, they're saying that that Jim Cavizio movie was great when really it was just one person's opinion who was not a journalist. He's an op-ed writer, right? And so that's the problem is that we are lazy in general as a society, myself too. And so we don't want to dig through, parse through, read between the lines. We don't want to do any of those things. And so it's much easier to just paint everyone as sort of the enemy and to say you can't trust anyone. No one can be trusted. And that's just not true. True. So how do you approach your own

show when you have the El Donkett show? How do you approach journalism that way? I don't. Have you ever listened to my show? There's no journalism in it at all. You don't think so? We literally started the podcast the other day talking about bathroom etiquette in fact i'd love to get your opinion on this okay if you are the first person waiting in line like if you're the next person to get to use a stall because the stalls are occupied

do you have a responsibility to the people behind you in line to make sure all the stalls are actually occupied so that not everyone's standing like an asshole when even though there's an empty uh stall somewhere that happened to me and the lady led me to believe that all the stalls were full because she was standing there yeah and so she goes into a stall and i'm like here i go waiting for another stall to open and nothing is happening and i realize it's been open this whole time and it was i blamed her because she should have said something. Yeah. Or else I'm the asshole that jumps someone and starts checking doors, which I'm

also not supposed to do, right? It's like, yo, you still taking a shit in there? Yeah, yeah. No, it's, she didn't do her due diligence. That's her fault. But I go back to fucking social media where no one can communicate anymore. We're not communicating over until it's

fucking on your phone. Gen Z can't talk to each other unless they're holding their phone up and interviewing someone on the TikTok anymore. It's like they cannot have real conversations. How is that going to affect civilization and humanity moving forward if we can't even communicate

about how we feel? I don't know. Intrapersonal skills are at an all-time low. And I do, I don't know that it's totally their fault, right? Like I catch myself being like, oh man, like I can get this thing done or and give you, you know, kid an iPad or a phone to look at or put on TV for you. Or I can sit here and play Uno with you

for the 50th time and get nothing done. And so we do, we lean on technology because it is easier and it does help us. I think that now we've got these kids that just... Kids are now growing a bone or something. Now, I read this online and it wasn't real journalism, so I don't know if this is true.

Right? The bone, like the nodule from looking down, they're forming another vertebrae from looking down so much. We got to turn off these phones and how, what are we going to turn? We got to turn off these phones and live. Social media is going to be cigarettes in like 30, 40 years.

I think we're going to look at it like cigarettes. That's what I think, but I'm wrong all the time. So what do you think? I mean, we do need constant. We are addicted now to this ADHD culture where like we need, like we can't deal with our anxiety by ourselves anymore. The minute we have anxiety, we look at our

phone or we scroll. We tell everyone we know about it. I think we're genetically fucked now. I think that it has become such a part of our DNA. I saw the other day, my phone was like, congratulations, you're down

to eight and a half hours of screen time per day and I was like I was so embarrassed I was embarrassed because I was down two hours I was like how the fuck am I on my phone ten hours also work also have a family how does this happen and it's because to your point like the second that I am bored or

there is silence or I don't know what to do with my thoughts or feelings right for the phone. And it's just like a mom. You're not even doing anything. And then before you know it, an hour has gone by. And that's how you get to nine hours of screen time in a day. But I'm hopeful that.

Like everything in life, guys. There is always a wave and a movement to do something. And then there is always a counter movement. And I don't, I don't know how it's going to happen or maybe the collapse of Twitter being like the first thing, but I do, I am hopeful that in the same way that young people have really ushered in technology, it will require young people sort of saying, we don't want this because right now you've got a bunch of old dudes that are older, even than us sitting in these offices, making all of these decisions. And this is what they all tell each other the kids they love the technology the kids they love the social media so everything has become that it is going to take

the kids going no the fuck we don't no no no no no that's not true that's just something y'all believe the second that they start pulling back is when we will start to see a little bit of a course correction but as long as these powers that be think that that's where you go find the youths, then that's just what we're going to be dealing with. Yeah, and I see that with politics as well. I think kids these days aren't really agreeing with this two-party politics anymore. They're having their own opinions on it, which is fucking, thank fucking Lord. And they're like seeing through the president, you know, just like in general,

they just see through all the Congress people more because there's more information about them to get. So I mean, there's good sides to it. But I think that kind of speaks to the media thing too where we keep blaming the media for news being this way and we keep blaming social media for being a certain way. But it's like, at what point do we blame the consumers? Because they're the ones really guiding what the people make.

If they weren't buying it, it's like McDonald's wouldn't make the Big Mac if no one was eating Big Macs. You know what I'm saying? So I think you have to blame the consumer a little bit for this. They're the ones clicking. Right? There is data surrounding every decision that is made. Exactly. People don't just make decisions in a vacuum.

Right. So in my own world, we always get so much shit. You guys all the time. All you guys do is talk about LeBron and the Cowboys. But here's the thing. That's what you click on. Literally, you guys,

we've got a rating system where we can see what we were talking about at that exact moment in the show and how many of you turned it off. And if we, if we can show how many of you tuned in because of dah, dah, dah, dah, dah,

and how many of you stayed with us, even though we were talking about LeBron. So the point is, you're doing that. And I understand, maybe personally, individually, you don't like the Cowboys. You want some of those sub-stories. You want us to talk about the underdog teams. But when we're casting a really wide net, we are following the metrics. And the metrics say, if you talk about the Lakers, you get ratings. If you talk about the Cowboys, you get ratings. If you talk about the Cowboys, you get ratings.

If you talk about big-name stars, Patrick Mahomes, whatever, Aaron Rodgers, you get ratings. That just is what it is. We can't fight the metric. Get mad at each other. Supply and demand. We're not doing this with no research. Like, we're literally—correct. It's supply and demand.

It's capitalism. You're asking for it. We're going to keep giving it to you. And until you change your habits, we're just going to keep feeding that beast. And nobody wants to hear about your sad-ass organization, the Cleveland Browns. I'm sorry. It's like, the Browns get talked about.

I think the Browns get talked about enough this year, actually. They've gotten enough coverage. Their defense is looking good. No, week one, they were good. The defense is looking good. I got two more questions. I know you got to get out of here. You're a busy woman. Have you ever had a Bill O'Reilly moment where you just

blew up on everyone? It's like, fuck it, we're going live. Teleprompter gone. Have you had any one of those moments on live television? I have never had a Bill O'Reilly moment. What about one backstage? I'm definitely... I'm like more of a,

I don't blow up and lose my, actually, you know what? Totalize. Look at me lying, right? I was almost going to lie to your face. It had ESPN. I did get suspended many years back because I was doing radio at the time

and I walked in to say hi to one of the radio shows that was going on while they were in a commercial break. And I'm talking to one of the hosts of the radio show and the producers behind the board app. And I can see her on her phone. And she did that thing where you fuck up and you text the person that you're talking shit about. But you text them. Oh, yeah. Right.

So she texts me and she's like oh l is the fucking worst or somebody you know she's so fake like so i get this text as i'm standing there and i realize what she's done and i'm like she doesn't know and so you know i just smile at her and she just smiles at me what's up girl and so i was just like did you maybe mean this text for someone else she realizes that she's busted she immediately flips she goes from like you know what are you talking about to like I meant it and I did mean to do that and you need to be told

and da da da da and so I found out there had been some things that were well I didn't fight her but I definitely might have brought up that you know she claims to like you know be at church on Sunday. I'm just kidding.

This was radio. It was not her. Anyway, she sneakily, smart, sneakily hit the on-air button as I was cussing her out. I did not know. So across the airwaves, it was me being like, so fuck you!

That's the only time I've ever been blown up by anybody yeah he's like what the fuck now you get famous i know i was like yeah it wasn't great um she ended up getting let go and i got suspended um but in general i'm not a blow-up person i'm more of a snarky talk shit kind of person. You talk shit to the face, right? I'm literally going to smile through my teeth. Mara's like that too. She'll tell me exactly when I'm being... She calls me Mr. Barstool sometimes

when I have a hot dick. I'm like, Mara, chill. I'm like, okay, okay. I am being an idiot. That's a catch-all for her. Mr. Barstool is a catch-all for Mara. It just kind of means... Except for when she's waddling like a duck okay, okay. I am being an idiot. That's a catch-all for her. Yeah. Mr. Barstool is a catch-all for Merritt. I know. It just kind of means... Except for when she's waddling like a duck today, Andy.

You're like Portnoy today. I'm like, okay, chill. I'll chill. I'm chill, Merritt. Except for when she works with him. They're cool when she works with him, though. Yeah, yeah. Elle, thanks so much for being on the show.

My last question... You guys are the best. This is so fun. Oh, and I... Come on next week. Yeah. We love you. You guys are the best. This is so fun. Oh, and I, you know, Come on next week. Yeah. We love you.

We love, we're huge fans of you. I loved your speech you did for Kobe. That was so nice. What, how was important? Thank you. Oh yeah, he stopped recording when you talk about Kobe. I'm like, I'm obsessed with Kobe. That's my guy.

He's the one who taught me work ethic. How important is Kobe Bryant to your life? So meeting Kobe was so impactful, even at the time before Girl Dad, obviously, because it reminded me what we just talked about, right? Full circle. That people are humans. I hated Kobe.

I hated him because he always killed my teams. I hated him because he wasn't on my team. I hated him because he was just so good, right? And he was so dominant. And he was so, and he knew it. And i met him and i sports hated him right like let's be very clear i sports hate a lot of people i don't hate anybody yeah um and then i met him and i was like oh my god i remember calling my mom and being like oh god i think i like kobe bryant she was like what no i was like i like him i think i like him! It was like, he's so nice and really smart

and so cool. And so, if there's nothing else, so I'll tell you this, Andy, because I didn't really hit on it too much, but I did have that DUI in my past. And it was like, I had worked so hard on my reputation, which of course you can never really

repair if it gets to a certain place. And I had worked really hard and I thought I was doing all the right things And being smart and I had one slip up I had half a drink too much At a celebration for me by the way That's the cruel irony of life I was being celebrated for being one of the top 25 Under 25 in Atlanta

And then I got a DUI Oh this was pre-Uber Yeah it was younger Oh you were pre-Uber Gives it a lot more leeway. Yeah. That's fucked up. The irony.

I was really lucky because the arresting officer actually had arrested Reese Witherspoon two weeks before in Atlanta. Yeah. He was really nice because we had a conversation on the way to jail. He was like, what do you do? And I was like, well, I currently do television and radio.

But I don't know after this. And we had a good talk. And he went to bat for me. He actually went to the judge and was like, she wasn't drunk. I know what she blew, but she wasn't. And if it had been the days before cameras, I probably would have let her go or followed her home. So please don't ruin her life. So all the charges were ultimately dropped.

But guys, what Kobe did for me and what Girl Dad did for me is it created a different legacy for me. Because for so long, at least personally, my legacy felt like an embarrassing one. It felt like no matter the good that I've tried to do, the people that I've tried to touch, the charities that I've worked with, it still came down to a Google search of me and a really horrible mugshot. And now I think when you think

about me, I think I'm more synonymous with that and the amplification and uplifting of women and the idea that we all needed a place to heal after Kobe died because we didn't know what to do with that pain. And so being a part and associated with that has meant so much to me because it was a really horrible thing to think that you'd go your whole career and only ever be known as that person. So it's given me something else, and it's been a true blessing. That's amazing. Did you feel like you killed that speech after you pumped yourself up?

Like, that was a bomb. I was killing that shit. Or did you realize it just came from the heart? And I think people dig being genuine. And I bet you saw the day after. I was crying when you said that stuff. I was like, thank you, Elle, because it is true. It's hard.

I'm scared to be a dad because of those reasons. Because I was a hoe when I was a kid. I appreciate the honesty with it because I was never a fan of some Celtic players until I got to meet... I like Paul Pierce, even though he's wilding out right now. He's wilding out. I mean, he's honest. He's like, I'm going to the titty bar.

Fuck it. I was going to talk about how he's saying LeBron is in that game. I'm going to show all y'all. I'm going to show all y'all. Y'all all will be in the titty. Well, thank you so much, Elle. I know you got to prepare for ESPN today. You're the best.

No, thank you. Thank you for what you said. You guys are the best. This was so fun. We do this all the time. Let's do it. I'm going to hit up Marissa. We'll do it. We'll do it.

Your podcast is about to blow up. I have a feeling. You're the best personality out there, bud. Thank you. Thank you so much, guys. I got one last question. I'll let you go. When it's all said and done, you've done so much in your career, all these different radio. And I didn't, I just

saw here you're, you're a traffic reporter. Like what? Yeah. Like everything. Yeah. When it's all said and done, what do you want to be remembered by? Ooh, I want to be remembered for my energy. You know, I like, I can't, I just want to be remembered for like being like bringing fun and, and making you laugh and, uh, and just bringing great energy. If I can, if that's my long lasting legacy, I think about that a lot of guys, like, what would I hope everyone would say at like my funeral? How would they eulogize me?

And I would just hope that everyone's shared commonality is that, you know, she came into a room and she filled it with energy. And so that's what I'm hoping. God damn it. You are a fucking queen. Let's go. Thank you. We love you.

Enjoy your day. Love you back. Bye. Have a great day. Thanks for being on the show. Bye, you guys. Bye. Later. Oh, man. That was awesome. Yeah day. Thanks for being on the show. Bye, you guys. Bye. Later.

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