Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 248: Katherine Blanford (comedian) & Dogs in a Pile
Episode Date: December 5, 2023The U.N. pipes up to remind Andy (and all of us) that checking your instagram isn't worth crashing the tour van. Why check your socials when you're already surrounded by such beautiful boys as Dogs in... a Pile?? Andy gets deep with them before their set and learns a little more about what makes these guys tick (and what psychedelics they prefer). Remember: if it ain't a heady jam, it ain't gonna make the record! And on the Interview Hour, we time travel back to Bert Kreischer's comedy cruise as we get to know the hilarious Katherine Blanford! Andy and Nick may have met their comedic match in her, and now you too can experience her "human Golden Retriever presence" in a town near you: www.katherineblanford.com oh and guess what.... you can watch this episode; now in color! Psyched to partner up with our buddies at Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. Call, leave a message, and tell us if you think one can get addicted to mushrooms: (720) 996-2403 Check out our new album!, L'Optimist on all platforms Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out our good friends that help us unwind and sleep easy while on the road and at home: dialedingummies.com Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Arno Bakker Shawn Eckels Andee "Beats" Avila
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All right, boys, what do you got for me?
Here he goes again on his own
Driving down the fucking highway on his phone
Been drifting into lanes and parking zones
Frasco's made up his mind
Frasco's made up his mind He's gambling with our lives
Here he goes again on his own
Dropping down the fucking highway on his phone
It's the longest tour I've ever fucking known
Frasco's made up his mind
Gonna answer every email while he drives
So here he goes again
Here he goes again
Here it goes again Here it goes
Get off your fucking phone
Let's start the show
Everyone clap
Alright, that was pretty good, boys Not bad Everyone clap.
All right.
That was pretty good, boys.
Not bad.
All right, and we're live.
Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast.
I'm Andy Frasco.
How's our heads?
How's our minds?
Are we staying out of trouble? Are we not corrupting the young music scene themselves?
Dogs in the Piles with me today.
Let's go.
What's up, boys?
Hey, yo.
How you doing?
What's up? Man, it's been with me today. Let's go. What's up, boys? Hey, yo. How you doing? What's up?
Man, it's been fun so far.
I love it.
You guys are the best.
You guys just sound so good.
And it's like every time you just keep getting better.
It's like I'm not like your dad or anything,
but I just see you guys grow up every year.
Like, how old are you guys now?
We're both 24, right?
Yep.
24 fucking years old.
What's the difference between touring with us versus touring with other bands?
Dude, you guys are like our best friends off the bat.
Let's fucking go.
We love you guys, man.
It's like you're literally chilling with your best
friends all the time, just going nuts.
I love it.
Dude, we want to
pass the ball around. We're here friends all the time just like going nuts i love it dude i mean we wanna you know we like to pass
the ball around you know and uh we're here for you and it's it's so cool you guys had such a
fucking crazy ass run how long you guys i feel like you've been on the road forever this year
yeah pretty much since february since jam cruise right i always know it was uh gem and jam in
arizona and then jam cruise and just like really hasn't stopped since then. What was the shittiest gig?
Sticky's Rock & Roll Shack, but it actually...
In Little Rock?
In Little Rock, yeah.
By the way, we're going to Little Rock next week, guys.
What happened to the show?
It wasn't a bad gig.
We actually played well, and the people that were there enjoyed it,
but there were just like 15 people there.
We actually played Freebird, though and we did yeah yeah dude so i heard i heard it yelled in the back
and i put the mic close oh yeah so i heard it yelled in the back and i was like i was like you
know what fuck it let's just do i pulled out my phone and just held it and didn't play yeah
dude i realized after the show it was nick who yelled it and i wasn't really if it was some
random guy that's hilarious dude do those more bummed. That's hilarious.
Do those shows bum you out?
Like the low crowd or is that kind of the nights where you get to experiment and shit?
I mean, yeah, definitely the latter.
When it first starts and you see the one guy that came at showtime, that sucks.
But then you get a couple more people, you start playing and you stop worrying about what's going on.
And you just kind of go for it.
You start getting the living room vibes.
It's like, all right, what do you want to hear?
And then the experimental shit.
That's when it gets cool.
Because there's literally no one here.
We're in the studio space, but on a stage.
Do you guys get tired yet?
Are you old enough to get tired?
Yeah, I'm a tired boy, personally. I like myself. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm a tired boy personally. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking bad dudes. Cause like, um,
you guys are getting big so fast. It's, it's pretty cool to see. Do you feel that trajectory
too? Or do you feel like it's like, ah, shit, we've been working at this for so long. It's
finally coming. Or do you feel like there's more room to grow? Like what's your mind state on it?
Oh yeah. There's definitely, definitely always room to grow? Like, what's your mind state on it? Oh, yeah. There's definitely always room to grow and do things differently, maybe better.
But different is good, you know?
Keeping things fresh for us and for the fans
that have been there for...
I mean, it's only been about two years
as like a real touring act,
even though we've been together closer to four.
Right.
But, yeah.
And, oh, yeah.
What was the other question?
I don't know.
Dude, you know, it's easier to like um
when we're it's it's easier to to not think about like how things are going on the outside
like to like force it because then like it's almost like we're just it's the same thing every
night and you're just like focusing and it just gets better slowly and slowly and then at a point
it's like oh shit now we're comfortable and we're able to do what we want.
It's kind of a trickle, too.
We start in the bars, and then you get to...
You do an inside pony thing, and it's half full, maybe.
And then that grows and grows.
But you're still playing to 15 people in Little Rock
right after you sell out the pony.
It keeps you humble.
And it feels natural, you know?
Because we get to do the bigger rooms
With you guys, we just got off the pigeons run
We've been in some really nice rooms now
So we're starting to get that itch
Here we go
It was interesting too because we did those two big shows
Locally, the Philly gig and the New York gig
It was headline
Almost sold out
Where our hometown was
And then from that to going on Pigeon Store, opening every night is just, like, a big, like, whoa.
Okay.
All right.
We got some work to do, man.
Yeah.
It's like, you know, because, like, your jam band, you spread out all your songs.
You have to, like, be considerate about how long you're spreading out those songs because you're only playing an hour.
You're like, oh, fuck.
We're still on the first song.
Let's play three.
Have you ever fucked that?
Have you ever done that? Like that? Like, you have, like, an opening set and, like, you, fuck, we're still on the first song. Let's play three. Have you ever done that?
You have an opening set and
you're only two songs in.
Set's almost done.
We've taken to speeding. We got this one tune
called Charlie and we've taken to speeding up the ending
because it's typically a closer. So if we're running
short on time, we'll just play it at
three times tempo.
Let's get to the point, boys.
Let's get to the point. It. Let's get to the point.
It just keeps rising sometimes.
It's like, we're getting closer.
Get speed up.
I fucking love it, dude.
Yeah, it's like we have a big year with us.
We're doing a lot of shows next.
We haven't announced the other ones yet,
but that's going to be fucking huge.
Yeah, I'm super stoked, man.
I can't wait to announce that
because that's just what we're about to do with these boys and some other boys.
It's just going to be fucking silly.
Oh, my God, yeah.
But we love it.
Do you eat edibles, John?
Yeah, so I didn't like them for a while for no reason just because I didn't do them.
And now I can't stop eating them.
They're the best.
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all you have to do is cut in half or cut in fourth i can't my brain's fucking i drank 25 shots last night guys
oh man yeah i i see your parents and see i don't want to i you're okay so this is the cutest shit
ever jimmy's parents have been touring with us i saw them making them hamburgers Before the set It was a fucking cookout
It was a Jimmy Cook
The family of Jimmy
Was making hamburgers for the boys
I'm afraid to black out in front of them
So I'll go to the bar and drink
But I won't
Because I don't want to be a bad influence
I feel like I got to take care of you boys
I don't want to
So I ran to the bar right after the set.
And I guess all the fans from the show came out and just 20 shots.
And I threw up in the bathroom.
And it was a bad situation.
Come on, you're more of a pro than that.
I know.
Well, I rallied.
I saw your boys.
Your boys showed up at 2 a.m.
I'm like, nothing happened.
Just like, so what I'm trying to tell you is
please drink responsibly.
You're not a guy who drinks. You guys do psychedelics, right?
Yeah, sure. Indeed.
What kind of psychedelics do you like?
You know, the trippy ones.
You ever play a show on acid?
Dude, I swear.
Hog Farm was one of the coolest experiences.
Some orange sunshine.
What happened?
The vibe there is like you're walking of the coolest experiences. Some orange sunshine. What happened? And dude, I don't know.
The vibe there is like you're walking into the 60s,
like straight up.
Yeah, it was just like heady in general.
Hold on, hold on.
I explained this.
What happened?
You know, Wavy Gravy?
Yeah.
It's Wavy Gravy's place.
Shut the fuck up.
It's like, hey, we're at Wavy Gravy's place.
We might as well take some L and trip dick.
Exactly.
So is it, do you like playing on Acid?
Is it, do you like kind of space out?
Is it too spacey?
I don't know.
I feel like I'd lose myself.
Yeah,
for me,
acid is a little spacey.
I like mushrooms.
Yeah,
that's my point.
Dude,
I went at Hog Farm.
It felt like everyone,
I think everyone was on
Simirel that night
because like it was going around,
whatever.
And it tuned in.
I felt tuned in
with everyone that night.
It's cooler when everyone else
is on it though,
you know, in the band.
But I was like solo that night, I think.
Do you guys go on like any of these like psychedelic experiments
where like you'll just take the band out, like the doors,
go out to the desert, go to Joshua Tree, write a whole record?
Have you done that yet with the band?
I think it should be soon.
I think it's bonding time.
We did it in our like grungy studio. Hold time. We did it in our grungy studio.
You have a grungy studio?
Oh, yeah.
What's that about?
Stinks.
It's a little mildewy.
So what?
Where is it?
In Asbury?
Yeah, not too far from there.
It's so insane that you live in that.
Have you ever met Springsteen?
For a second.
What happened?
I had a neighbor that was with us. We were at a show at the Pony and he was at the bar and we
walked up and my neighbor freaked out and scared him
away and he ran off.
Hugged him. You're like, bro!
That could have been my moment to meet
the boss!
It feels like everyone knows
Bruce in that town. I don't know.
Does he really live there still?
I honestly don't know
I think he's local
He's within 25 minutes
He's probably living somewhere
Princeton
So we're day three in the tour
We're in Columbus, Ohio
What tricks do you have up your sleeve
For tonight and tomorrow?
Do you have more tricks?
Every set has been different Which has been really beautiful to see.
I want to know, when is it where you'll start repeating songs?
I guess we try to go as far as possible.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah.
You do that every time?
So, what about, like, what's your philosophy about, like, regions?
Like, say, like, you have a great new song
and Jersey heard it,
but you're on the West Coast.
Will you play it in the West Coast?
Yeah, definitely.
You won't play all the same songs
in that big region.
What's a 10-hour difference?
We're not quite so
mathematical about it.
It's more of a feeling thing.
We try to think back like,
oh, last time we played this area, what did we do?
Either try to repeat
something that went well maybe or don't play
anything that we played that night.
God, you guys are like a real jam band.
Yeah, real.
Real jam band.
None of them are real anyway.
It's all made up. You guys have been working on
your vocals too. The harmonies are sounding good. Is's all made up. You guys have been working on your vocals too.
The harmonies are sounding good.
Is that something you've been focusing on?
Yeah, it's definitely come more into focus recently.
Why now over before?
We weren't good enough to play
and sing at the same time before.
Oh, my boys.
I fucking love you guys so much.
It's so nice
being with a band that is still happy to be on the road.
Our band, we don't talk to each other until it's fucking showtime.
Everyone just disperses.
Like, get the fuck out of my face.
You guys are like, hey, let's go cook some burgers together.
You guys, I brought some Kool-Aid. Let's fucking go.
It's like, God, that's the best thing about the road is the camaraderie.
Do you agree?
Do you feel like you get closer to your brothers when you're sleeping in a van with them?
I mean, we're figuring it out.
It's, you know, like you were saying, it's been pretty, pretty quick.
And so, like, we're not really used to any one aspect of it yet,
but we're honing in how we work as a group.
And so, it's, you know, by By and large I would say it's a steady
Steady incline and we're figuring it out
But there's ups and downs
Has anyone fought each other? Have you gotten in a fist fight with your bros?
Maybe just
Accidentally someone's constipated
Or accidentally someone
Yeah that did happen yesterday
We haven't thrown fists but we
What happened? We say fuck you
Yeah what'd you say?
It was me and Nick. Nick was backing up the truck
And I was just like, oh come on, let's get a move on
We were a little late
And he was like, I gotta poop
I was like, get the fuck out and poop and I'll do it
Oh, I love it
Brian, get over here, let's talk for a second
We got Mr. Shyman
Brian, how you doing?
Welcome to the show
Thanks, thanks for having me
Lay down a little bit so you can be in there
Have you fought anyone in this band yet?
No, not physically
But emotionally?
Just straight up passive aggressively
Like you motherfuckers
Well Jeremy and I like wrestled one time.
What happened? On the beach?
It was very romantic.
We were on the beach.
We were like, I guess we should wrestle now.
And we did. Yeah, it was adorable.
It's like that scene in Borat.
We're a man. We're a man.
They start wrestling and all of a sudden,
these two dudes are just fucking each other on the beach.
No, no. I mean, you never know.
You still have a lot of years of being in a band.
I've had my share
of love making
my band. No, I'm just kidding.
I did have a threesome with one of my band members way back in the day.
But we'll talk about it another time.
You can't disclose it.
Well, we were 24.
We were young kids.
This is what I'm saying. You need to get into that experimental
shit, boys. Take some acid.
Run naked in the beach. Go out
there and fucking find yourselves.
I love you guys so much.
Dog, so what's your next
tour schedule looking like?
This episode comes out on Tuesday.
Where are you guys playing?
We got two headlining dates.
I guess if it's coming out on Tuesday this weekend,
that would be Roanoke and Raleigh.
Oh, cool.
Yeah, and then we got another couple of days off
before our two big pony hits, 15 and 16.
You're playing a stone pony?
What, outside?
Inside.
Let's go.
That's fucking huge, boys.
Yeah, and then also two nights,
you see us fish after party on the 28th
and two nights at Putnam Place for New Year's.th And two nights at Putnam Place for New Year's
Oh, you're doing Putnam Place for New Year's?
Is that Saratoga Springs?
That's fucking awesome
I love that room
That's a cool room
I love it
So what's on the agenda for a new Dawgs record?
Are you guys working on one?
Not actively, but we are in the pre-production process
We're looking at recording dates in March.
What does pre-production look for you guys?
Thumb up the ass, mostly.
He's trying to pick the songs that we've been really annoyed
that we haven't finished with yet.
What do you guys...
Are lyrics important to you guys?
Absolutely not.
It's all about the heady jams, my brother.
If it's not a heady jam,
it's not making the fucking record.
Hammer-ons and bends, ask Sean.
Sorry, I keep fucking moving this camera.
I can't keep my feet still.
Don't worry. We love you guys.
Be safe out there.
Don't get into any hard stuff.
No heroin, no heroin, no meth. Don't even into any hard stuff. No heroin. No heroin.
No meth. Don't even do cocaine.
Cocaine's not fun, okay?
Trust me. I've done plenty of it.
And you don't need any of that, Dewey, okay?
It makes
your sleeping bad and it makes
sex awesome.
Let's go.
That was the moaning one.
That was nice
Boys alright
Go I know you guys got to play in like 20 minutes
Get out of here I'll let you go
And thanks for being on the show
Thanks dad
Drink water boys
Dogs in a pile
Ladies and gentlemen we have Catherine Bamford
On the show this weekend
Or tonight she's a comedian
She's amazing
She's one of the funniest
girls I've ever met in my
life. She's just such a sweet person.
And I think
you're going to really love this interview.
So stick around and we'll hear you
soon. Alright guys, I love you. Oh, and
head to volume.com. Do you have any sets on volume.com?
Yeah. What do you have?
Did you say volume.com? Yeah.
I don't know what the hell that is.
Volume.com, live streaming business.
You have a set on volume.com, I think.
Yeah.
So watch the dogs play live on volume.com.
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And if you want to see these pretty young faces,
I sound like a pedophile right there.
See these hot boys. See these hot boys young faces. That sounded like a pedophile right there. See these hot boys.
See these hot boys' faces.
Go check them out on volume.com.
Okay, guys.
Enjoy Catherine, and we'll see you next week.
And we got to rock out.
We're going to rock out Columbus, right, boys?
Let's fuck this shit up.
All right.
Hi, guys.
Are you having fun?
Every time I see you, you look like you're fucking just Having a goddamn ball
I'm having a blast
I
I'm uh
I try and be cool
But I'm not cool
I'm just like
I feel like the kid
And like it
Um
I feel like
Clark Griswold
Uh
Niece and nephew
Yeah right right
Those kids
Yeah
I feel like that kid
On this cruise right now
Every other comedian
We've interviewed
You can tell there's like inner darkness.
With you, I don't see any darkness.
Unless we could get deep into that.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
No, there's not really.
I forever and always have felt like
I've just fallen through the cracks.
And I'm like, oh, I'm not supposed to be here.
Oh, y'all haven't figured this shit out yet.
And so I'm just like like i'm about to get kicked
out at any moment like fucking live it up i always feel like the like the kid that snuck backstage
or something like that like i so i yeah i'm just i'm living it up till i wake up from this dream
i'm definitely having when did you when were you funny when did you start thinking like, oh shit, I'm funny. Oh God, from the beginning. The womb.
Oh.
Actually, no. I never
thought I could do stand-up comedy.
I did.
I was in college. I was at South Carolina. I was in a sorority.
Nice. Holy shit. Hold on.
That's a party school.
What was that? Were you hoeing?
Were you ho-ers? Did you have any ho-ers
in your life?
It wasn't active ho.
I wasn't like, I'm horny.
I'm a fucking guy or whatever.
I was blacked out all the time, and I would just wake up naked a lot.
Really?
So regular college.
That sounds like fucked up, but it wasn't.
I think I was just like, guys, I'm fucked up, and I need some shelter tonight.
So it wasn't like I was horny.
I was just more fucking for shelter.
I don't know why I said that.
No, I'm like the same way.
That's how I was too.
I don't know.
I was having sex and getting fucking hammered in college just to not feel anything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're like, no, I want to be your
princess tonight.
Do you like me?
Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you're just talking to some also
like teenage or 20
year old boy in khakis
and a polo or a PFG
shirt. And you're like, man, I really
want
Kyle to like me. And then you look back and you're like, Kyle's I really want Kyle to like me.
And then you look back and you're like, Kyle's a douchebag.
No, he's selling used cars.
Yeah, you were so desperate for college kids to like you.
What was the worst blackout
that you have?
My worst
blackout? Like, you were
actually embarrassed of yourself.
Oh, that's a deep, dark secret.
Then tell us the second one.
This is so...
I think I said I would never say that.
Guys, I don't think I...
I'm going to say it.
Let's say it.
Talk to us.
No, you're going to...
We're musicians.
Your darkness is probably
not as hard as our alcoholic darkness.
Y'all are going to go,
no, this is gross.
I'm ready for it. Like poo-poo pee-pee gross.
I'm ready. Hell yeah. You hated it already.
No, I'm in. I'm in. Guys, you're going to
look at me so differently after I say this. I can't wait.
I always said I was going to take this to my grave.
I was so bad. I was addicted
in college. I was not prescribed
Adderall, but everybody
under the sun was because they were whites.
And so they had they're like
you're white you gotta eat it in yeah yeah um so I would just be like taking yeah my friends
Ritalin or their Vyvanse or their Adderall and also whatever pill I could get my hands on so
sometimes it was a 60 sometimes it was a 20 whatever the fuck whatever I could get my hands
on that night so I remember remember I was in South Carolina,
and I came home to Kentucky to see my family,
and I went with my mom and my brother.
We went and had food at an Ethiopian restaurant.
And then I went down to Lexington, Kentucky,
to go hang out with my friend who played volleyball at UK.
And we were with all these athletes.
She played volleyball.
She dated a soccer player from France.
And I just remember I took an Adderall and like when I took an Adderall, it was like immediately I black out.
And it was like, yeah, I was I was I'm so weak.
And I just this is so gross.
I just remember the next morning, like waking up in her bed and one of her dresses and was like, I... Have you ever had that feeling?
I'm pretty sure I shit my pants.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Or did I shit my pants?
I definitely absolutely shit.
She goes...
This is so gross.
She goes...
Her boyfriend's name was Anthony.
She's like, so I think you went home with
his friend.
At one point point he came out
and he was like hey stephanie um i did she have a change of clothes and do you have a change of
sheets oh my god this is so good i don't like shit my pants all the time anyways so i you don't
give off that energy really so i'm pretty sure i blacked out shit shit shit my friend's address
and then so i it's an hour drive home from Lexington to Louisville.
And I drove home.
All I could think about was this.
And I walk in my house and my mom and my brother are sitting at the kitchen table.
Oh, no.
Oh, my God.
We were up all night with diarrhea.
Something happened with that Ethiopian food.
And they just go, did you feel it?
And I was like, yeah, I think I did.
So did my best friend's
boyfriend. Yeah, there's
some boy who doesn't, he's
like, I'm going back to France. I'm not
fucking staying here in Kentucky. I'm not giving a shit
how free of a ride that is. I just had
a Kentucky girl shit my bed.
She can't handle
Ethiopian food.
Oh, yeah. I mean, I'll
admit the time I shat myself too then
I was on one of these cruises
And I was snorting Adderall
And I was drinking
You know the all inclusive cruises are just the shitty alcohol
Yeah
And I woke up
I was throwing up
And I guess I passed out by the toilet
And then I also shit myself
So I was throwing up and shitting myself.
Because you had like
food poisoning or alcohol poisoning.
It was alcohol poisoning for sure.
But you know when you're just trying to get it
all out and you just don't, it doesn't feel like
vomit is throwing up so you push harder
and all of a sudden you shit yourself too.
Yeah, I know.
I don't talk about poop this much
but I'm so excited we're doing it
okay
two things I have a theory
have you guys ever almost
like
poop your pants in Target
I think they pop something
into the Target air because
first of all it's Starbucks right when you walk in
I know I know but sometimes I don't even have
the Starbucks but I can't I have thrown so many panties away
in the Target bathroom.
Oh my God.
This is so gross.
I don't talk about this as much,
but I feel so free on this shit.
I can't believe I'm talking about poop so much.
That's fine.
I have truly, it's probably happened six times,
and then I've gotten bought a pair
a pack of Target underwear
and I'm like
they did this on purpose
they
I know
I know
Gilligan or whatever
their underwear brand is
I have a lot of it
and it
I did
I wasn't going to Target
for underwear
that day for sure
it's like poopamones
yes
I think they pump
like you know how like
in casinos they pump
oxygen or whatever?
Target is pumping some poop juice.
Laxative.
Laxative in the air.
Yeah, some laxative in the air.
Have you ever been afraid
that you're going to poop your pants on stage?
Yes.
A couple times.
Yes, when I'm drinking too much.
Do you...
Like, that's actually one of my worst fears.
Really?
And I think it's like a...
It's like a nerve thing
I think maybe like if you're like excited and you get that like anxious for sure kind of thing oh
yeah but I think but they say when you're on stage the adrenaline like keeps you from doing it but I
one day that will happen like I'm so afraid one day to like just have I'm I'm just like I'm
committed to an act out you know what I mean and I'm like into an act out. You know what I mean? And I'm like into the act out
and all of a sudden I just go,
too far, too far, too far.
And I know I've pooped my pants,
but I have like 33 more minutes on stage.
And then I have to contemplate.
Do I just say it?
Or do I just like,
or do I keep going with my set
and then in the middle of my set I go,
guys, who fucking shook their pants?
What are you dudes out there?
And then I'm like, well, that's a great riff.
And that's an Instagram reel.
I don't know.
But what about like when you're like, what about like, have you like, what was the biggest nervous feeling you've had during a show?
Like opening maybe was your first big arena show.
I mean, you've been doing arena shows now.
Or was it like your first time doing stand up?
What was the first time you really
was like, I don't know if I
could handle this, the anxiety, or do you
not get nerves like that?
No, I get
bad nerves. Because I didn't grow up
like a theater kid. I didn't grow up
performing on stage.
So I wasn't, it wasn't until
my 20s when I started it.
Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I wasn't, it wasn't until my 20s when I started it. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. I was, I did, so I was college.
There was, oh, I forgot to say this.
It was a fraternity and they had like this competition every year called Miss Venus.
It essentially was like a pageant and every sorority had to intern a girl and you had to do like a Q&A and then you had to do like a talent and you had to bring in one of the pledges
and you were assigned a pledge
and the pledge had to do the talent with you
and I've seen it before
and
and
that's so gross
why would you do that?
People always did like sexy dances
or something like that
and I couldn't
I couldn't dance
and so I wrote a
opening monologue remember Chelsea Handler had her show Chelsea Lately? Chelsea Lately, yeah. see dances or something like that and I could I couldn't dance and so I wrote a opening
monologue remember Chelsea Handler had her show
Chelsea Lately I wrote an open
monologue like I was Chelsea Handler and I
roasted all the frat guys and then we wrote a
sketch like we were doing an interview
and he was Charlie Sheen at the time
remember when Charlie Sheen was winning
Tiger Blood the Tiger Blood era
and I won
and I was obsessed with it and that was
probably one of my like that and then like i graduated and like i still i was like i think
they did stand-up comedy then and i was i i like i could not get it out of my head and um i started
doing open mics like uh shortly after that after i graduated And for the first two years,
it wasn't about like learning how to write jokes. I truly had to like just figure out
how to stand on stage in front of people.
Like if you put a figure in the back,
like on my tongue,
I would have thrown up on stage in front of people.
I had to just like, yeah,
my first two years was just fighting stage fright
before even like learning how to write a joke.
Did you feel like you were more funny then without overthinking
or do you feel like you needed the chops to actually write bits or not?
Oh, no, I wasn't funny at all.
Oh, yeah, I wrote hacky shit that I thought, you know, you saw on the internet
and I was like, I was obsessed with it, but I didn't know how to do it. And then one night
it was open mic in a basement in Atlanta. So it was like in a basement and they had like a
spotlight. It was like, I don't, it was such a weird setting. And I just, my mom passed away.
I was 22 and I started comedy like a year after that.
And I, I remember I like kind of had this bit about, like, it was hard.
I had to dress her for the casket because I was the only girl.
And I, I didn't, I was struggling to figure out which like dress to put her in.
Because I was like, we're the same size. And I, you know, if it's cute, I was struggling to figure out which like dress to put her in because I was like,
we're the same size and I,
you know,
if it's cute,
I want to keep it.
Yeah,
you don't want to waste it.
Was your mom hot?
Yeah.
Yeah.
She was super hot.
Yeah,
she was Southern suburban hot.
Yeah.
For sure.
She was so fucking funny.
Were you close with her?
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
We were like,
we were like two peas in a pod
and I mean,
I definitely went through
my adolescent years
where I was a pain in the ass.
And she was definitely going through some shit too.
But we probably would have been super, super close had she not quit life.
Jesus Christ.
Has she committed.
But 22, I mean, that must have been tough for her passing if you were so close to her.
Were you coping with the pain through comedy and laughing?
Yeah.
Oh, for sure.
That's when I had this job that I was doing very well at.
I was very young and was rising the ranks.
I was a manager for the company that staffs the securities and ushers and ticket takers for arenas and stadiums.
Oh, in Atlanta?
Well, I was in Orlando at the Amway.
And I came up here for a smaller venue.
And then I started comedy.
My mom passed.
I started comedy.
But I was still doing that.
And then I got offered AT&T Stadium, Dallas Cowboys Stadium as like the top dog.
Running there.
Yeah.
And I was like.
I know.
And I was like Damn I know and I was like I
My mom had just died
And I was like
And I was like living like
Every day
In a venue
Like you know
You have a load out
And then load in
It's a 14 hour day
And you never ever leave
And I was like
Fuck this
I don't give a shit
Like I want to live
My life
A little bit
Did your parents like
Make you go to school
Graduate Get a job?
Did they think comedy wasn't a...
It wasn't even a thought.
It wasn't even a thought.
I still have friends from college to this day that are like,
when are you going to give that up?
Same.
They can't fathom that.
They're like, how's that music thing going?
That's so cute.
And you're killing it.
And they still say that?
Yeah.
They're like, so when are you gonna
get a job
now? Time's ticking.
Still happens.
Why do people do that to
artists?
They don't think...
They need art so bad. They need music.
They need comedy all the time, but they're
still not taking it seriously as a job.
I think it's... I mean, it's a hard it seriously as a job. I think it's...
It's a hard thing to fathom.
I think there's people...
One of my best friends, Tori, she's an architect.
She just does...
Our brains are too different.
We might as well be two different species.
She cannot wrap her head
around...
She's great and she's doing great in life, but
she's like, I budget and I da-da-da. here's my plan for the future and da da da da da da and
like the way i live my life would be she would i mean i think she would be suicidal like she can't
like like fathom she's type a she's extremely type a though yeah and it doesn't even like we
essentially are different species i think but were you like that as a kid?
No.
I mean, I think I was, yeah, I was definitely like doing my, I was always playing like pretend
shit.
You know what I mean?
Like when everybody else had moved on, when everybody else was like moved on to sports
and shit.
And I was like, no, I still want to play horses.
Yeah.
And I would play, this is fucked up, but I played homeless with my little brother a lot.
Hold on, what is homeless?
Like you'd act pretend homeless?
Yeah, because it looked like an adventure.
It is.
And we would, no, this is fucked up.
We lived in a neighborhood
and I would put my brother in the red ragged
because my parents both worked
and so they didn't know what we were doing. And I would wheel my brother in the red ragged because my parents both worked and so they didn't
know what we were doing and I would wheel him
up to the front of the neighborhood and we would
okay I'm not making
fun of it I was a naive kid
we would get
cardboard signs oh my god
and we would go we'll work for food
people would drive by and see them yeah yeah yeah
there's something about a
kid I've been trying to work on a bit about it those kids that played like People drive by and see them? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's something about a kid.
I've been trying to work on a bit about it.
Those kids that played make-believe games all the time,
but they were always tragic situations.
I don't know why it was.
It was like this,
you forever always wanted to be the damsel in distress.
I don't know what that is psychologically,
but it wasn't cute games.
It was like, Save me. We have to put food on the table
We're going to starve to death
We have to survive
Like we were always playing survival games
I don't know why
Were you a latchkey kid?
Yes for sure
Maybe that's part of it
You just were like I want to suffer
Exactly
Did you have friends when you were a kid?
Huh?
Were you a loner when you were a kid or did you have friends?
What do you think?
I mean, I think you had friends actually.
I didn't talk.
I mean, I would just do all this fake wrestling and fake talk to myself in the mirror and shit.
I would do crazy shit and I realized, oh yeah, I was just lonely.
Yeah, but
did you have siblings? I had two older sisters.
Were they doing that too
or were they just doing normal
kid shit? They're doing normal kid shit
but they're eight years older than me.
So I didn't really get to have a
childhood with them. It's kind of like being an only child pretty much
at that point. How old was your brother?
I had one that was,
I still do,
two years older
and then one that's
five years younger.
But both of our parents
marked him.
We were just alone
all the time
and I think I just,
there's like,
people that have imaginations
and then people that are
like task oriented.
Yeah.
And like,
they're just,
they're like,
I was very much more like an imagination I always wanted to play
and my brothers were like
I was such a black sheep in my family
they were like you're a fucking weirdo
were you always beautiful?
thank you so much yes
go on
ask more about that
it's like I don't know when
like maybe people
were intimidated to hang out with you because you're always
so pretty. Oh, that's very nice. No, I wasn't.
I was a very awkward kid.
And my brothers were, uh,
they weren't interested in feeding that
beast at all.
They were like,
calm down, bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're ugly. You're ugly.
They hate it now. Even now, like,
I'll go to family functions
and I'll have,
my dad's one of 10.
So on that side,
I have seven cousins.
Yeah.
And there'll be people
who are like,
I don't know very well.
And they'll be like,
oh, Heather,
it's so cool to see you.
I tell people,
da, da, da.
And my brothers will be like,
yeah, right.
This is bullshit.
Moving on.
Let's take a shot.
Like, they can't,
they don't want to live in the... Maybe they're jealous.
I don't think it's jealous. I think it's
just like...
I have an annoying sister,
and I don't want to hear other people
fanning out about her.
Oh, she don't know the truth. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If we went out,
I remember as a kid, and somebody would give me
a compliment, my mom would go, well, she's meaner than a snike.
Like, we...
I like that accent. That's a very Kentucky accent. and somebody would give me a compliment, my mom would go, well, she's meaner than a snike. Like we, like it was, it was.
I love that accent.
That's a very Kentucky accent.
Why don't you have a Southern accent?
She does a little.
I don't know.
Cause both my parents grew up on tobacco farms.
They're very, like very farmer.
And then I went to South Carolina for school
and I was in Georgia.
And I don't, so it doesn't make sense.
I should have all these different
kind of southern accents,
a combination of a cocktail, if you will.
So I don't know.
When I go home and I talk to my family,
it'll come back.
But it's very weird.
I think I just didn't.
Did you have very very like Elizabeth Town?
Have you seen the movie Elizabeth Town from Kentucky?
That movie.
Was it Kirsten Dunst?
It was Kirsten Dunst or Lando Bloom.
I remember it.
What happened?
It was just the dad died and they went back to Kentucky to see all 20.
Like the big family reunions.
If your dad had like 10, How big were your family reunions?
They're like...
We have to go to a park or something.
Or like a big venue.
So you had family reunions?
Oh, yeah.
You still do?
Oh, yeah.
So what's it like going back and saying,
Hey, I'm a comedian in LA.
What's that?
My family is so like...
They're the sweetest
Most southern people
But they don't
That doesn't even faze them
Like they can't
They can't fathom
That that's really a thing
Right
They're like
Well that's a cute thing
That you're doing
Right exactly
Like you know
People are so sweet
And southern
And like
Down to earth
That you're like
No I'm doing like
Big shit
And they're like
Well sure you are
Sweetheart
Do you want some more corn?
It's got to be fucking annoying to go to the family reunions
when people are just belittling your dreams.
Oh, no.
They're like, no.
I love it because you're in LA and there's people like,
I got to get this.
I'm this.
And everybody's feeling like no one recognizes their star.
And everybody's anxious or whatever.
And then you go back to this and you realize like, oh, there's a simple life.
Everyone here isn't completely desperate.
Right, right, right.
And there's good people that are just simple and kindhearted.
And you go, Catherine, you're not.
You shut up, you Spinner the snake bitch
You know
Yeah yeah yeah
Stop acting like
You're that important
And you're not
It's a good
It's a good like
I don't know if humbling
Is the word
Or just like a reminder
That there's people
That like
Aren't all caught up
In
Just the grind
Who they are
And how everybody else
Is seeing them
And what they get
There's just like
Good simple people
Going to work
And having some kids
Yeah
That's what's fucked up about
I grew up in LA
And I had to deal with that
My whole life
And I think that's what scarred me
Of knowing I'm never good enough
Because no one gave a shit
About your art
Because everyone's so self-absorbed
With their own fucking shit
Dude
It's fucked up
I'm telling you
Because I just moved to LA
I was in Atlanta
Even just I experienced that Just doing shows Like the audience Yeah because I just moved to LA. I was in Atlanta.
I experienced that just doing shows.
The audience,
if they don't have their arms crossed,
they are in their mind.
It's like you start off a show and everybody has their arms crossed
and they're like,
I'm also an artist.
Let's see what you can do.
I can probably do all of that too.
That kind of feels like the attitude.
Oh, yeah. I totally went to LA
on the karaoke. Sean Payton
saw me.
I was just like this, watching a comedian
sing. He's like looking at me
like, bro, stop judging
a comedian on the karaoke.
He doesn't want what you have.
He's not going to take it.
Nashville's like that for music too, I feel like.
Whenever you play in Nashville, they're very much like that.
Why are we so passive aggressive too?
Everyone's so passive aggressive in fucking L.A. too.
Yeah, but it's like Pavlov's dog.
Is that the word?
No, that's not it.
That's the training with the bells.
Yeah, you get what I fucking mean.
No, it's like it does it to you.
Yeah.
Because everybody is, you're seeing somebody else who's desperate and wants stuff.
And you're like, I got to be like that too if I don't get stuff.
Yeah, I mean, this is a...
Life's weird, dude.
Art is, it's a fucked up thing where like the best stuff comes when you kind of let shit go.
Right.
And you kind of like take your foot off the gas pedal and you can appreciate shit.
And I think that's when you create the best shit.
But then you also have to like be reminded to put your foot back on the gas pedal and be hungry and relentless with shit.
And it's just this like back and forth that it turns you into a monster.
Right.
Yeah.
You're like constantly desperate.
How hard is it to let things go for you?
I've never let anything go in my entire life.
I remember everything.
What's something you still think about at this age?
A million things uh this is so fucked up i should i keep saying i'm not going
to talk about it anymore but i keep talking about it okay i like no i can't talk about it again i
keep saying i'm gonna i i had a boyfriend in high school and i cheated on him and then he uh
he hooked up with this girl who like who would used to be from my hometown but she left to be
a model and she come back and visit and she grew up to be jennifer lawrence oh oh my god
like i was told that story like three times on podcast and now i'm scared to go back home to
louisville kentucky because people are like you're so obsessed with jennifer lawrence I was told that story like three times on podcast. And now I'm scared to go back home to Louisville, Kentucky.
Cause people are like, you're so obsessed with Jennifer Lawrence.
You have to let it go.
You have to move on.
But like, what if you see her in LA?
She's so far beyond me.
She's going to be like, oh cool.
That one party that I hooked up with your plebe boyfriend.
I don't give a shit.
I'm going to go.
Was she your friend though?
No. That's this'm going to go. Was she your friend though? No.
That's this weird
fucked up thing.
Yeah.
Well,
she was like,
she would come back
and she was from Louisville
but she left
and she would come back
and her cousin Carrie
was like
a friend of mine
within the bigger circle.
Uh-huh.
But I really should just
No,
fuck that.
Be catty.
I'd be catty. No, I should just move on. I think she's doing all right. I know she's doing all right but I really should just no fuck that be catty I'd be catty
no I should just move on
I know she's doing alright
but I think I've always said that's actually probably why I got into comedy
cause I
cause I always
I remember like always wanting to do theater
and like act but I was too afraid to tell my parents that
cause they'd be like
you? come on
I didn't want to be embarrassed
and then
and then you're like watching this girl who actually ended up like living out the things
that you were not brave enough to admit that you wanted to try yeah and then she also also hooked
up with your boyfriend that you cheated on so it was really a big dagger in my heart but i've moved
on and i don't give a shit anymore i don't even i practically never remember that it happened
were your parents still together until your mom passed?
Yeah, they were and they shouldn't have been.
Really?
Yeah, it was pretty fucked up.
And then my dad
remarried a woman.
He proposed to her
I think
maybe around a year after my mom died.
Yeah.
And then
she didn't want to live in the house,
my family house.
She didn't want to be around my family dog.
Wow.
So, like, my mom passed.
And then, like, within a couple years,
my dad got rid of all my mom's stuff without telling me.
What?
Oh, he, like, didn't even give you a chance to take it?
Because she wanted him to get rid of all the stuff.
Right.
Yeah.
And then he sold my childhood home. My dog, he, like, kind of kicked of all the stuff. He sold my childhood home.
My dog, he kind of kicked out of the
house. He had to go live with my brother in college.
What?
Do you have a band of
issues? Probably.
I don't know.
I haven't lived in the same home
for over two years.
I've skipped
homes, whatever, like I've skipped homes,
whatever,
like apartments,
rental stuff for probably like 10 years now.
And I'm like,
hey, I don't know.
I'm more happy on the run.
Were you a serial relationship-er?
Like were you always in relationships?
No, it's weird.
I've always been in like
three to four year
long relationships.
Really?
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
Is this your longest relationship?
Yeah.
How long is it?
Three and a half. Holy shit. I'll clap to that.
That's a pretty healthy event.
We're pretty healthy though.
But
I...
Stepmoms is a hard job. It's a hard...
But they were like... I was like 25 when they got married.
So she didn't have to do anything. She's just a bitch.
She's just a bitch? Yeah.
I applaud people that are
good women or men
who want to step into
a family that's already established.
That's a hard thing.
For sure.
When you're just a fucking evil human being
and you get rid of all the
kids shit.
To be fair, they do come in on an even playing ground.
All the kids are going to automatically not like them at first.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Other step parents are cool. People pull it off.
I know, I know.
I think I'm going to be a lesbian
in my 40s probably at that point.
And then I know I will
be a step mother at some point.
The marriage won't last, but I know I'll be
a step mom. Have you ever been with a woman?
No, I haven't. Really?
Yeah. I always thought I was going to be
gay, but I'd never been with a man.
I think the same thing.
I think I'm gay without
the sexual.
If I could be asexual, that'd be
fucking perfect for me. I think I'm asexual.
Yeah? Is it hard for you to
be intimate with your dude now
after three and a half years? Just rather not
just be fun with it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just
like, I'm just down. Just a plant?
Yeah, I'm like, I'm doing like jokes through it
and he's like, dude, come on.
It's four minutes.
Can you just
shut up for four minutes?
You don't need to be doing bits. Maybe it's the intimacy
thing. Maybe we're scared of intimacy.
110 billion trillion percent.
What scares you of intimacy?
I don't like to be
vulnerable
or
because
growing up, my family,
when you cried, it was like,
haha, I got you. I was like haha i got you i
beat oh yeah i broke you down yeah yeah so i think it's like you're so afraid to be like because you
feel like you lost are you more alone on the road or off the road uh i i'm honest that sounds that's
an interesting question i feel more alone off the road because I'm so
obsessed with
my work.
I love it.
I love working on something new.
During the day, I'm like, well, this is perfect.
I'm going to go write and then I get to go do my show at night.
Then when I'm off the road,
I feel like I'm wasting my time.
I'm so eager to get back to it.
It's hard to be a human after you've been on the road
for so long. You try to like,
what is home? I sleep
better when I'm in a hotel.
You feel productive?
Does that make sense?
Yeah, 100%.
I don't like...
I admire comics
who have other hobbies and I'm like
how do you turn your brain off from this
obsession onto another obsession
because I feel like if I got another hobby
I've always wanted to start horseback riding
but I'm like oh well I
what if I don't dedicate enough time
to comedy and then I'm not as good
I give up time it's like
such a sick thinking everything always goes back to comedy and then I'm not as good. I give up time. It's like such a sick thinking.
Everything always goes back to comedy?
For me?
Absolutely.
Damn.
But I don't know.
I don't know if it's healthy or not.
But I'm like,
but I also just love it
and I'm obsessed with it
and I want to get better.
I don't think it's...
No, I think that's...
I mean,
people are afraid
to dedicate their life to something.
Everybody needs something, man.
Even if it's just having kids.
Because I started music late too. I started music when I was 18. So I didn't have that... something. Everybody needs something, man. Even if it's just having kids. Because I started music late, too.
I started music when I was 18.
So I didn't have that.
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of...
He started, what, 10?
I played my first pay gig when I was 15.
I had a weekly when I was 15.
Yeah.
What, for your grandma?
It was like a little jazz, you know, duo at a seafood restaurant.
It was like 70 bucks a week.
But when you're 15...
Hey, grandma, let me play the sax for you, baby girl. But when you're 15, like 70 bucks a week is kind of a lot of money. That's a shit ton. It was like 70 bucks a week. But when you're 15, let me play the sax for you, baby girl.
But when you're 15,
like 70 bucks a week
is kind of a lot of money.
That's a shit ton.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would have murdered someone.
Felt rich.
I wish I had 70 bucks right now,
to be honest.
Well, how,
is that restaurant still in business?
It's called Paula's Seafood
in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
Oh, Fort Wayne.
Hell yeah.
Exactly.
You've been there.
Yeah, no, I know about Fort Wayne.
And Fort Wayne looks And Fort Wayne looks...
Summit City.
Fort Wayne, when you drive around and everything still looks colonial.
Yeah, it's kind of because it's an old city.
It was like from the 1700s.
French and Indian War.
It was a fort.
It's a little offensive.
I didn't build it.
Yeah.
I just live there.
So you can say whatever you want about it.
I love it.
There's some good people there, though.
There's a lot of columns.
A lot of columns. There's a fort. There's some good people there, though. There's a lot of columns. A lot of columns.
There's a fort. There's still
remnants of people being slaughtered.
Mostly Native Americans.
Were you raised poor?
No, I wasn't raised poor.
I was super middle class.
Super middle class.
The most middle class you can be.
Why'd you pick South Carolina to go to college?
My brother middle class you can be why'd you pick south carolina to go to college um i my uh uh my old my brother was two years older he went to lexington he went to uk and lexington which was an hour south
and so i my junior and senior year i was like driving down there almost every weekend
and going out to visit my brother right and I was still in high school and had a reputation
on the college campus already.
And so I had to get
the fuck out of Kentucky.
I can't go here.
I'm already popular.
Yeah.
But I figured out a way
to get in-state tuition
in South Carolina.
Yeah.
Oh, you did?
That's cool.
Yeah.
That's ASMR for you guys
Our musician fans will fucking love that actually
Somebody's jerking off to that
Someone's jerking off to that
I was always just like ready to run
At any moment
I loved like just getting the fuck out
Doing something
That was me too
Every weekend
I was booking shows when I was like 13, 14
I would go to Arizona
What?
Yeah, I'd go to ASU
It's the first time I got HPV
I got HPV and fucking ASU
Were you a child?
Yeah, I was addicted to sex when I was 13
What?
Yeah, I told you this
I had sex with my teacher and shit
Oh yeah
Yeah, and I was just having sex
I didn't get into coke drugs nothing
It was sex
Were you 13?
I was 18
Were you splooshing then?
I was 18
So yeah you were splooshing
I was splooshing
I remember the first time I beat up
Maybe this is too much for you guys
Did you hear my poop story earlier?
So I used to beat off
when I was like second grade, third grade.
I would just look at my dick
and just like hope come came out.
Okay, I have...
Like a shooting star?
No, I've been wondering this.
No, you're going to answer my question
because Pete Lee was telling...
He had sex with her son when he was 11.
Yeah.
Can you ejaculate?
I started cumming when I was in fourth grade. How old is that? 11. Yeah. Can you ejaculate? I started cumming when I was in fourth grade.
How old is that?
11.
But before that, could you have an orgasm without...
I had an orgasm.
I remember putting my dick in my parents' jacuzzi tub.
And I would do...
Every time they were at work, I would just put my dick on the jacuzzi tub.
Parents' jacuzzi tub is the name of a 7th grade English teacher.
I'm like, whoa, this feels so
awesome. Then I got addicted to that.
You got addicted to that? Yeah.
Would your mom walk in?
My mom walked in a few times.
I used to come on the
magazine. I used to have
just one magazine. I would just
come on the pages.
And I would just leave it under
the sink
because I was such in my own head. I didn't think
anyone was going to be in my world
because I was living in this imaginative world.
Like, oh, the world revolves around me.
No one's going to look at mine.
Everyone else is a background character.
And like, they caught my...
I used to have this cum drawer.
Let me know if this is too much. I could stop it.
I used to have a cum drawer. I would come if this is too much. I love this. I used to have a cum drawer.
You just would come inside the drawer.
I would come on all these socks and just put it in one drawer.
And I literally never washed them.
And when my parents sold the house when I was 19, they found it.
They found it.
It was like Indiana Jones finding the...
Why the fuck were you collecting your cum?
You were a cum hoarder.
You were a cum hoarder.
You weren't addicted to sex. You were addicted to collecting your cum? You were a cum hoarder. You were addicted to sex.
You were addicted to collecting your cum.
You wanted your body fluids to be outside.
Seven years of cum.
Prehistoric cum.
Why would you not just...
This is insane to me.
You could just
wash the socks and throw away
the fucking magazines, but you're like,
I need receipts.
the socks and throw away the fucking magazines but you're like, I need
receipts.
You can't write it off
on your taxes.
That's so weird.
Look how much work I did this year.
I didn't get paid for any of this.
Look at my art.
I think it was just because
my mom was so nosy
that if I would have put the stuff
in the laundry, she would have looked at it
and thought, come on.
They're very bonded.
She would have found it.
Did she find the come to order?
She's the one and she was horrified.
I also would like...
She found it like...
There was like seven years of worth in there
when she found it
I would never talk to you
I would never talk to you again
she also found like
all these condoms
under
like used condoms
under my bed
oh my god
I think about it
I am so embarrassed
like
she doesn't look me
in the eye now
no
I wouldn't either
what if your parents
just gave you your inheritance
right there
like we're good?
She's like,
did I birth a 40-year-old
porn addict?
Exactly.
Why?
Because I worked at like a,
I grew up in the Valley.
So like,
my jobs at high school,
I worked at like a porn house.
Like,
I was a security guard
at a porn house
when I was like 16, 17.
What?
Did your parents know?
No,
but they went to the house once
for like a dinner. I took them to dinner
I was kind of proud, like, oh, I'm in this mansion
And they knew something was up
And every time, like, let's have dinner on this side of the house
Like, no, we're not going to have dinner in the kitchen
Because there's like a Bukkake scene
You brought them to your courthouse?
We got to do it later
It was in my neighborhood, it was in the valley
I lived in West Hills and it was in Canoga Park
We got to wait for the winds blowing east. You were 16.
Wait, this is so, dude.
This is why I'm on the run too.
Running from a come roar.
I'm running from my past.
Come drawers behind you.
My shit was so vanilla.
You. Yeah.
Okay.
Okay, so. Oh, you're gonna, Okay. Okay, so...
After this boat,
we're never going to talk to each other ever again.
So this is a...
Dude, I got...
If you need extra drawers,
I have...
If you filled up your drawers in your cabin,
I can get you an extra drawer.
So there was like a mansion in...
So there was like a mansion...
I don't give a shit.
I own it.
A mansion in your house, in your neighborhood.
Yeah.
And they were like, we do sex on this side and we do fine dining on this side.
Yeah.
Like Olive Garden.
Like Olive Garden.
Like Olive Garden.
And then you were 16 and they were like, hey, what a perfect age for a bodyguard for a sex
mansion.
Will you
This was when I was 18
So this is when I was 18
And I had a manager
I guess in my head I'm like
I'm going to be a musician
I need a manager
And the only manager I knew
Was this dude who managed porn stars
And I was like alright
He can manage my music career I guess
He's got vision
He's got vision
And he didn't really
And so I had a summer off
He's like
Well you can work
At this porn house
And you can live there
For free
And we'll pay
You live there?
I lived there
For three months
Did you have a cum drawer
There too?
No
What?
Not the porn house
Just your parents house
What?
Yeah
Was it people
Just constantly having sex?
Yeah it was really weird
Because it was like a $10,000 budget film
So it was like there was a cat catering crew
There was a new crew every day
And the girl porn stars would all roll in
In Mercedes and BMWs
And the dudes who were fucking the girls
All rolled in 1992 Civics
Oh, there is equality.
Yeah, women.
But just in the wrong industries.
Not the wrong industries, but.
They're making 78 cents on the dollar
with the men's making.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But then it got weird.
Then it just got too much.
So what would your hobby be if you are.
I want a horseback ride.
Horses, yeah.
But would you be so obsessed with it
that you'd make it your job
Yeah probably
So you just have to
Just do all comedy
Yeah
Yeah
And like
I beat myself up
When I'm not doing comedy
Yeah
Like if I've ever
Like I would
I would go on a hike
With somebody in LA
Yeah
And I would have anxiety
About like
What like
Am I wasting my time
Should I be writing right now
Yeah
Isn't that insane
That's crazy
You can write while you're hiking
I know
That's the funny thing
Is like
Maybe this is a little unhealthy
Like when I do other shit
That's not comedy related
My motivation is that
This could turn into material
Right
Yeah
This is my life too
Yeah
My girlfriend was convinced
That I made the whole
My ex-girlfriend
I made a whole
My first love record last year,
La Optimist.
And we broke up and she was convinced that the only reason why I was with her
is to make a love album.
You're just a character in my little movie that I've made about myself.
You go,
bitch,
you just got Taylor Swift.
You are now Jake Gyllenhaal Listen
Why are we like this?
Why is our whole life absorbed through our art?
This is what drives me crazy
I feel like I'm damaged because all I care about
Is just being on the stage and making art
Because there's no greater feeling
So you're like
Yeah you're cute and fun
But whoever you're like, yeah, you're cute and fun,
but you'll,
like whoever you're with,
you're like,
that feeling will fade.
But like,
creating something and then like getting a,
getting a response from it,
there's,
that's a,
that's a high that
you'll,
you'll never get.
That's a one night stand
over and over and over and over again.
That's better than any
sex I've ever had.
Yes.
Any relationship I've ever had.
Facts.
Yeah.
What was the biggest high you've gotten
from a crowd response?
When I just remember,
I mean, God, so much,
but I remember I did the Tonight show
and I just remember
afterwards Jimmy
I did my set
he was really nice he was complimenting
and then afterwards
this isn't a crowd
I was on such a high and I went back to my room
and we were packing up to leave
and then I just hear a knock on the door
and I look up and Jimmy was like standing in the
door and like this has been like 30 minutes after the
show and he just goes
he repeated one of my tags to
my jokes and he was like that was
so good he's like you have these like very
quick like throw away liners
that are like really funny and I was like
oh you remember that you do like a subliminal
thing almost I noticed that you like subliminally
add yeah but it was like he had remembered the joke and had been thinking about it for Oh, you remember that? You do like a subliminal thing almost. I noticed that. You like subliminally add. Yeah.
But it was like he had remembered the joke and had been thinking about it for 30 minutes and like came back in it.
That was like a.
You made it.
That was just a weird, weird moment where I was like, because you never like think you
always you're like, I do still think this.
I said it, but like, I don't think I'm great.
I think I've fallen through the cracks and I'm just like, I'm here
until y'all figure out I shouldn't be here.
And it's like
those little moments is when
I feel like the universe is being like,
bitch, you got it.
It's like a full circle thing.
You've always felt like you never
deserved to be there.
And then fucking Jimmy Fallon
is like, let's go.
I'm going to clap for that.
Let's go.
Let's go.
He was drunk for sure.
Yeah, yeah.
He didn't remember my name.
He did?
He did.
He was so nice.
Yeah.
That's fucking amazing.
So now you're in your prime.
You're going to get this shit.
I also want to,
before we leave,
I know it's been an hour, but
you got to tell me about this salmon coming
on you. Oh, true story.
I have the picture. I'll send you the picture.
Hold on, say that again? Salmon coming on you?
Salmon came on her.
How did you know?
Did you see my set?
We were actually
in Juneau, Alaska. My brother lives in Juneau Alaska my brother lives in
Juneau Alaska
and
do you know salmon turn
you know about this
they literally turn
oh yes
they come up
to spawn
and after they spawn
they die
they just
they literally
like they just give up
they stop eating
and they decay
and they're called turning
because they're no longer silver
they're like a gray color
and
I
so we were like,
there was a bunch of salmon there,
but they had come up to spawn.
And I caught one.
And I think he was just under so much stress,
like freaking out.
And he had like come,
swam all the way upstream,
like carrying all his sperm to deliver.
Do his job.
And it was just too much stress.
He was like, fuck!
And he released it on me. and he came all over me.
What does salmon cum look like?
It is
human jizz. I'll show you a picture.
How much is there?
Bring it.
The amazing thing is you trying to make this into
a bit is the best.
Oh, my phone's dead.
Okay.
You'll send it to me.
Were you freaked out? Was it quivering?
I was like,
we got to kill him right now.
We killed him immediately after that
and tried to eat him
after it.
I absolutely manhandled the shit out of him.
My brother was like, he felt so bad for the fish manhandled the shit out of him. I, yeah,
but my brother was like,
like,
he felt so bad for the fish because he was like,
you know,
like,
how many fish
actually make it
all the way back?
And he did.
And like,
he almost made it
to the very end.
Yeah.
And then like,
at the last minute,
this psychopath
pulls him out of his home
and shakes him
to the point of losing
all his sperm.
And I love the line when I go, I did it again. I found a man and I squeezed the purpose out of his home and shakes him to the point of losing all his sperm. I love the line
when I go, I did it again. I found
a man and I squeezed the purpose out of him.
It's just the saddest life.
He was probably so
proud of himself. But maybe
that's the ultimate dream to someone dying
after they cum.
You know what?
I would love to like cum
and then die.
Pretty man is gonna do that.
And then die.
So just like an alien's holding you
and you're like,
I'm so fucking nervous.
I'm gonna cum.
And then they're like,
they hit you over the head
and killed you.
Would you fuck an alien?
Anything for material.
Let's go.
We'll end with that.
Thank you so much
for being on the show.
It's been wonderful
I got my final question
I always like to end
These questions
This podcast with that
By the way
Thank you for being
Vulnerable about that stuff
I know it's hard to talk about
Oh anything
You know shitting yourself
And stuff
And I appreciate it
Oh
I can't wait
To go to Target
With you someday
I can't
Yeah
Next time we hang out
If we're in like a Kansas area
And we're in the same area
We're going straight to a Target.
If you're constipated, do some Target laps.
I'm trying to satiate yourself.
Yeah, yeah.
If your bookstores are like that too, I've noticed.
Yes.
They have that too.
Yes.
It must be the coffee beans.
I don't know.
I don't know what it is.
This retail keeps it moving.
It's like magnesium.
I think they want, yeah, I think they don't want you to linger that long.
It's got to be something with the lighting, too.
I don't know, but I think this is the sole reason Target has been in business,
is their underwear sales.
Well, thank God.
I got one last question for you, and then I'll let you go.
Get back to your party.
Blow my nose.
Blow your nose.
We got you some...
Oh, thank you.
No, I'm not going to blow it.
Now I made it.
We made it.
ASMR.
You did the whole thing.
So when it's all said and done, what do you want to be remembered by?
My vulnerability on stage.
Let's go.
Yeah.
No, just my storytelling.
And I don't know.
Oh, that and I want to save every dog and I want to end dog breeding.
Really?
I love dogs.
Yeah, I want to end dog breeding.
So do you have a foster?
Yeah, I have.
I rescued my puppy and I know there's a lot of bad stuff going on in the world,
but I'm obsessed with saving dogs and we don't need to breed any more dogs.
My dog is from a breeder, but we
got him away from a breeder
and adopted him from a breeder.
Oh, yeah, yeah. You saved him.
Yeah, I saved him from a breeder.
He was being bred, though. He's a poodle.
You're the first to die.
No, no, no.
I got him away from the breeder.
And now you're breeding him?
No, we got him neutered immediately.
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. You can live. For now.
Oh, never mind.
We didn't. Please kill me.
I'm really good at killing things.
Well, welcome to the club.
Ask that salmon.
I just killed the end of the show.
Enjoy the cruise and let's grab a beer
before you leave. Let's get to know each other a little more.
Yay.
Later, bud. Let's get to know each other a little more. Yay. Later, bud.
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