Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 250: Mark Normand & Yannis Pappas (Season 5 finale)

Episode Date: December 19, 2023

In which we present to you the finale of what continues to be season 5... or were it 6? We may be confused about the entirely arbitrary season number, but you know what we're not confused about? The l...ove we have for y'all. Andy checks in with each member of the U.N. to give thanks, praise, and due shade. Listen in for some highlights of this past year and to ask the eternal question: Will this band of brothers be content with the end of tour? Can they find peace in the quiet of home life?? Or will they long for the sweet embrace of THE ROAD (and each other's loving embrace)??? Kiss your homies. And on the Interview Hour we got comedians, Mark Normand & Yannis Pappas! Flex your love for other and don't shy away from laughing at yourself. Stay tuned for next week's award ceremony with one, Mr. Nick Gerlach. Peace OUT oh and guess what.... you can watch this episode; now in color!  Psyched to partner up with our buddies at Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. Call, leave a message, and tell us if you think one can get addicted to mushrooms: (720) 996-2403  Check out our new album!, L'Optimist on all platforms Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out our good friends that help us unwind and sleep easy while on the road and at home: dialedingummies.com Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Arno Bakker Brian Schwartz

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, it's Schwartz. Listen. I just heard that you took one of our sweet, sweet, amazing artists that we work with to do blow, to do cocaine. And she didn't do it, thankfully. But why would you subject her to even coming with you to do that? And why are you even doing it? And I've heard you say this before, and it's unacceptable. Cocaine is not your Adderall. That's not how it works. If you want to do Adderall, do Adderall. Go to a doctor like a
Starting point is 00:00:31 fucking human. Don't prescribe cocaine as an Adderall substitute for yourself. What is going on? And first of all, and then you're bitching at me about and you crushed it. And then you're like, and then you're bitching to me about and you crushed it and then you're like oh oh oh i didn't mean the mf so first of all don't do blow in front of sweet sweet people who don't do drugs try not doing it at all and two don't just find cities to bitch about and then mean and then say oh i'm in another city all right get home get your shit together pull your head out of your ass and and and drink some fucking water and and please go walk around with the band and crew and hand out some waters all right and we're live andy frasco's world's favorite podcast i'm andy frasco
Starting point is 00:01:22 the season finale. Season fucking five finale of the World Saving Podcast. I can't believe we've done 251 episodes. 250 episodes. Fucking nuts. I, um, yeah. We're ready. I'm ready to go the fuck home.
Starting point is 00:01:40 How are the boys? Y'all feeling good about this? Let's get some boys in here. I haven't... Sean, come in here. I haven't talked to you in a while. Sean Eccles, ladies and gentlemen. How's the boys? Y'all feeling good about this? Let's get some boys in here. Sean, come in here. I haven't talked to you in a while. Sean Eccles, ladies and gentlemen. How's it going? Man, we're out here. We're on Tuesday. Oh, hey, Skip.
Starting point is 00:01:52 We're touring. We got three more shows left. We've been touring our asses all day. Your hair looks beautiful. It's fucked up. It looks straight. Yeah, it's like Prince Valiant going on right now because I wore a fucking beanie in the van all day
Starting point is 00:02:02 so I could sleep. How's it going? It's going great, man. Yeah? You feeling good? Floyd just fucked my guitar all up, so we're going to see if it works. Yeah, Floyd, he brings his friend over here, and now he thinks he's a fucking guitar tech. I mean, I can't do it myself, so we'll see if Floyd can take a whack at it.
Starting point is 00:02:17 How are you doing? I'm ready to go home, bro. Yeah? You're not going to go home. I'm not. I'm going to go straight to Chicago to go hang out with Bayless and the Humphries crew and that's right then we'll see you in Outer Banks Outer Banks what are you gonna do you just gonna sleep maybe gonna actually sleep no sleep a lot you're working though sleep
Starting point is 00:02:36 during the day cuz I do my best work under the cover of darkness that's where that's my boy that's my show pony there he is Under the darkness Oh yes You have a lot of gigs Oh a french fry Hey Skip I have gigs in January Oh That's good That's bomb
Starting point is 00:02:50 Thank you Skip how you doing I'm doing great How you doing Andy Ready to go home No I never I never go home I live at my house
Starting point is 00:02:57 30 days a year I'm a road dog bitch Thank God Fucking go Year The year in review What do you think was the best Your favorite show of the year
Starting point is 00:03:06 Peach Fest Peach Fest was amazing You were crying bro We were crying together It was fucking beautiful man That was an amazing thing It was beautiful And then I jumped
Starting point is 00:03:14 The highest off the piano I ever have It was fucking great I always It felt like three days It was in the air Dude I always try
Starting point is 00:03:21 I know when you're about to Jump off the piano And I try to press that down button but it doesn't go slow enough for your fucking ADD brain. Off the top rope. Yeah, I think Peach Fest was the most special.
Starting point is 00:03:36 There's a lot of good shows, but that was fucking epic. Yeah. You ready to play the pageant? I'm fucking pumped. That's like your ultimate memory as a local. So I grew up playing music down in Del Mar at Cicero's. It's like your ultimate memory as a local. So I grew up playing music down in Del Mar at Cicero's. It's like the Humphreys boys.
Starting point is 00:03:49 They were playing on Friday nights selling the place out and I was playing to like 40 people on Thursdays, you know? Yeah. And that's where I started but I played with like Little Feet. You played with the Humphreys
Starting point is 00:03:57 at the pageant? I played with the Humphreys like three times at the pageant. And Little Feet. Yep, Little Feet twice. Here we are, headlining it. JJ Gray, Mofro, here and there on a New Year's run. Look at us. Look at us now. Now we're playing twice. Here we are. Headlining it. J.J. Gray with Mofro here and there on a New Year's run.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Look at us. Look at us now. Now we're playing it. Now we're headlining that bitch. Let's go. It only took 15 goddamn years. 15 years and we fucking did it. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:04:18 But we did it. It took time. Thanks for believing in this whole fucking weird project. We love you. Live for it. Love you too. I love you. Sean Eccles eccles ladies and gentlemen thanks for being there who's next ernie chang everything never gets on the podcast the shyest one in the band ernie chang ernie chang how you doing what's up bro damn you're almost home almost home but i loved every
Starting point is 00:04:43 single minute of this year man it. It's been amazing, right? Oh, dude. I still, like, I'm still remembering the beginning of the year, man. Like, damn, we sold out Troubadour, our hometown. It's just like, everything that we did through the summer and just having fun. And just now we're just sliding home and ending at the, you know, that fucking pageant in my new hometown. I know. This is like a hometown show for you at the pageant, like the biggest venue in the state.
Starting point is 00:05:06 It is. I think it is, besides the arena. You're a married man now. What's the difference between married sex and dating sex? Well, for me, it gets better. Hell yeah. My man
Starting point is 00:05:25 He's all married You got a dog named Kobe Yep Gotta love Kobe Gotta love Kobe Got two other cats And then you know A new home
Starting point is 00:05:33 Everything This big year today I know dude And you're Are you ready to go home Get some sleep See the girl Yeah I am
Starting point is 00:05:39 I'm ready to go home for sure Yeah But you know Even when I do go home I still got Stuff to do. I got it. I had a flooding in my house.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Oh, Jesus. Homeowners is the worst. Floyd has termites. My house is burning down. You know, just fucking just leaks everywhere. It's like, fuck, why do we even get caught up in the American dream? We're rock stars. We don't need to buy houses.
Starting point is 00:06:03 We live in vans and hotel rooms. Oh, man. That's our investment. And then your wife's like, no, the fuck you don't. Your wife's like, nah, bitch. I live with you too, motherfucker. I can't do without her. She's the one that runs
Starting point is 00:06:19 the ship. You took her to the homeland. I did. I did for the very first time how was it oh it's fucking amazing um well did the whole nine yards did you do the whole thing when you took us there oh yeah same thing my aunt did the whole shuttle and then uh and then like the whole family's there dad uh nephew sister distant aunts and uncles and then uh yeah, Amy had a hell of a time. She got a little drunk happy towards the end. Oh, yeah. Your family likes to drink.
Starting point is 00:06:50 When they're all together, it's fucking... It's like... How's your aunt doing? Which one? The one who always takes care of us. Yeah, on Emma? Yeah, she's great. She's enjoying retirement. She's just... She had all of us there and just like, you know, she was a big old smile on her face.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Oh, yeah. Crying. Oh, yeah. Just having a great time. I love it. What was your favorite show of the year? Oh, man. So many choose.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Well, I mean, we hometown boys. That Troubadour show meant a lot. Yeah. That was just like. Actually, I forgot about the Troubadour when we sold out the Troubadour. That was like the dream venue for us. It was. I mean, we started in LA and then next thing you know, it's like, oh, we got to do the Troubadour when we sold out the Troubadour. That was like the dream venue for us. It was. I mean, we started in LA and then next
Starting point is 00:07:25 thing you know, it's like, oh, we got to do the Troubadour. And then now we're just like slowly climbing up that. Now we're going to the El Rey. Let's go. Or the Fonda. Is it the Fonda? I think it's the Fonda. The Fonda. We'll take a win. Let's go. Thanks for all your hard work this year.
Starting point is 00:07:41 I appreciate you. You're my dog. We're in this together. You know what time it is. You keep getting better and better. You and Sean are playing your hard work this year. I appreciate you. You're my dog. We're in this together. You know what time it is. You keep getting better and better. You and Sean are playing your fucking asses off. This has been the best I've ever heard you do. You guys are good. You were good as soloists. Now it's like, I don't even have to point at you guys.
Starting point is 00:07:57 You guys are already fucking on a wavelength. Go fucking pop, pop, pop. It's like sparring. It's like at the gym Just going pop, pop, pop There you go Yeah, it is I love Sean, man He's a hell of a fucking musician
Starting point is 00:08:10 And just listening to him Gives me ideas too It's just Just listening together That's always the best thing to do I love it Ernie Chang Thank you, Ernie
Starting point is 00:08:19 Ernie Chang on the fucking building Next up, the big dog The big dog Get over here the big dog The big dog Get over here big dog Andy Avila How the fuck you doing Andy Avila Let's go Oh man I fucking slept my ass off last night
Starting point is 00:08:36 Yeah you took a night off Just no drinking Just sleeping feels great I did that too I went to I watched Taylor Swift The Taylor Swift concert With Em Our photographer
Starting point is 00:08:47 Cool Taylor's cool No hate No hate Nobody wants any Taylor Swift fans No you don't want The Swifties going after you
Starting point is 00:08:56 We're good We're cool with the Swift We're cool with the Swifties I just liked how hard she is She's a hard fucking worker Hey man If you're that big You gotta be hard working
Starting point is 00:09:04 Yeah Exactly If you're gonna wanna make A billion to be hard working. Yeah, exactly. If you're going to want to make a billion dollars, you're going to have to- Start over ain't for no bitches. Yeah, exactly. How are you feeling? You ready to go home? I'm fucking ready to go home, dude.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I'm fucking ready to go home. Yeah. And I got gigs when I get home as well. You got gigs? What are you going to do? You want to promote your gigs? I'm playing with my band, the Avila Band, at our local watering hole. Nothing special, just something nice and sweet.
Starting point is 00:09:26 And then I'm playing with a bunch of dudes. They freaking hire me because I'm there, and I take them because I fucking like making money. Let's go, baby. Make that money, Big Daddy. And they're homies, so it's fun to play with them. But the money's cool, too. Christmas is your favorite time of year.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Christmas is my birthday. We went to the Hipster Christmas in Nashville. The Hipster Christmas party That was tight That was tight Erin Rae made me shed a tear Erin Rae's a bad bitch Sweet singer Yeah
Starting point is 00:09:50 She was so fucking dope dude All of them Butch Walker was there too Butch Walker Fucking Paul McDonald It was the hang of things And a bunch of cool Nashville people I don't know
Starting point is 00:09:58 But they were all fucking killer I just saw you I always looked Because you love Christmas so much I always look on the shoulder And you're just like I was just like vibing Smiling hanging paul's up there came back yeah that was a good hang too that was a good hang what was your favorite show of the year um
Starting point is 00:10:14 shit man i want i mean buffalo was pretty fucking good buffalo buffalo's always good yeah i think the pageant tonight's gonna be good this whole weekend with maggie rose. I think the pageant, tonight's going to be good. This whole weekend with Maggie Rose is going to be good. The pageant's going to be special. The pageant's going to be special. I know it is. Sean's been talking about it for weeks. He's been talking about it for years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:35 He's stoked. My man's been waiting for the pageant his whole goddamn life. This is like his Madison Square Garden. And Ernie lives there now, so it's going to be a little hometown show kind of. Right. Right. St. Louis is the home. We've been playing there from the Broadway Oyster Bar and now to the pageant. Well, make sure you get some sleep.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I'm always sleeping. I want you to make love with Elise. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. You guys are going to make so much love. Christmas love. Christmas love. I want eggnog all over the bedroom.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Oh, I got my tree set up, dog. I got my dogs there with bows on them and shit. I want you to be pouring eggnog everywhere in that house. Oh, yeah. Eggnog helps, dog. I got my dogs there with bows on them and shit. I want you to be pouring air nog everywhere in that house. Oh, yeah. Eggnog helps with the... You got a turtleneck? You got a Tony Soprano turtleneck for Christmas? Ooh, I should get one.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Hell no, I'm too hot, dog. Fuck that. I'm sweating right now. Shit. Yeah, I hear that. I hear that. Well, Beats, thanks for being here. Thanks for working so hard.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Hell yeah. You're the shit. I'm going to go watch my show. Yeah, go watch your show. What are you watching? Boardwalk Empire, because I like that mafia shit. You do love that mafia shit. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Big dog. Big dog. The big dog. Last but not least, he's here. Oh, Skippy, come on. Get in here. What's up, Skip? What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:11:41 This is the season finale. Season finale. I'd like to thank a few people. finale. I'd like to thank a few people. Okay. I'd like to thank Andy. I'd like to thank my ex for cheating on me. Yeah. Fucking tour for the last year and meet this beautiful man right here.
Starting point is 00:11:56 You know, I think everything happens for a reason. If she didn't cheat on you, we wouldn't have been close. We wouldn't. And I love her. She's still one of my best friends. That's right. I can't do more. I'll tell you when. I'd like to thank the cute bartender that just poured
Starting point is 00:12:10 me a double IPA across the street while I got my burger. I love it. I'd like to thank you again. I love you, Skip. Thanks for fucking selling merch. Thanks for being in the holiday cheer. Thanks for always staying optimistic when we are fucking pieces of shit during the morning. You always walk up out of the hotel like,
Starting point is 00:12:25 what's up, y'all? How we doing? Shut up, Skippy. That's called a hangover. Well, we love you. I love you, too. Shout out to Daladin gummies. The best gummies in the planet. Shout out. Why?
Starting point is 00:12:39 Because they are homologized. They're from homogenized. Thank you, Sean. It's a homogenous mixture, which means that it's the same throughout. Yes. Even though I was a straight-A student in chemistry, I thought it was homogeneous.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Homogeneous. Which, that's what I call my dad these days. I love you. Well, we love you. And shout out to volume.com. You guys have been sponsoring us all year for the last couple years now. Good people. We can't do this without you, and you're just making our to volume.com. You guys have been sponsoring us all year for the last couple years now. We can't do this without you
Starting point is 00:13:07 and you're just making our lives so much easier. So if any of my friends, any of my fans, friends, that's kind of like what we are. We're friends. My fans are friends. Let's go. But seriously, if you know me and you love what I do,
Starting point is 00:13:24 go support those guys. Volume.com, Dialed In Gummies, they're the best in the business, and they've supported us for so long. Let's go and support them. Here's to them. Here's to them, too. Here's to you. And happy fucking kiss.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Thank you. He can always get it. You got to kiss your bros. Sometimes, you know, when they're making that merch money, you got to kiss your bros. Let's go. ATM right here. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Great money. Let's go. Cheers right here. Let's go, ATM. Great money. Let's go. Cheers. Happy holidays. We'll buy a t-shirt. All right. I'll see you soon.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Wow. Amazing. Em, get over here, too. We're going to get the whole fucking family. And last but not least, I know he has his headphones on with nothing, no music blaring. So we'll definitely... No, you can't hide from this, motherfucker. And it's been 48 hours, so I get my touches, okay?
Starting point is 00:14:06 And let the world know it's been 48 hours. And we'll talk about that in a second. Em! What up? We got Em, our photographer, our lady. We had girls night last night. We did. That was fucking amazing.
Starting point is 00:14:19 It was so needed. We ordered Chinese food at 4 a.m. Champagne. We got Hampton Inn food At 4am Champagne We got Hampton Inn champagne And And the arrows And we watched Taylor Swift
Starting point is 00:14:30 That was the first ever Taylor Swift concert I've ever seen I have been Watching so much Lore And like Mysteries
Starting point is 00:14:38 And clues And people With theories And so I feel like I know so much About her I could probably name All the albums in order
Starting point is 00:14:45 but have I seen a show? No. Have I listened to an entire song last night? Amen. I loved seeing how hard she worked and it was just nice to take a day off from being a degenerate alcoholic and
Starting point is 00:15:01 have one with the boys. Or have one with the girl. It's so great to have estrogen in this fucking... It's been so nice to provide it. Being a degenerate alcoholic and, you know, have one with the boys. Or have one with the girl. You know? You know? It's so great to have estrogen in this fucking. It's been so nice to provide it. It's been so fun. Well, Em, this is just the beginning.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Yeah. You're part of the family now. Get used to these crazy motherfuckers. Speaking of merch. Speaking of merch. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Em made the calendar, y'all.
Starting point is 00:15:20 All her photos. That was a beautiful calendar. Thank you. It's a gorgeous calendar. It's a team effort.. That was a beautiful calendar. Thank you. It's a gorgeous calendar. Team effort. We love it. Thank you for putting up with our drunk asses. I really appreciate it. And yeah, thanks for being on the show.
Starting point is 00:15:33 We all build each other up. And Wallace, ladies and gentlemen. Let's fucking go. Last but not least, Boy Toy himself. Boy Toy himself. He has to put his fucking headphones on with no volume so no one bothers him. But I know your fucking tricks now. Where you at?
Starting point is 00:15:51 The alarm just went off, by the way. You can touch him. I can touch him. Why do you have a knife in your fucking hands? It's just protection. This is a penitentiary out here. It's been 48 hours. You can't hide feelings.
Starting point is 00:16:08 You can't hide feelings for that long. You know, I gave you time. You're like, don't touch me for 48 hours. It was actually pretty easy. No, it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:16:15 We had to keep resetting the clock because you kept retouching. I didn't know we were going to follow the rules like that. I didn't know. I thought like,
Starting point is 00:16:22 hey, this is a joke. Love is love. You know? But you really took it seriously so I took it seriously too. The clock is off. And it's time for that butt to be mine again. Back to prison. It's like
Starting point is 00:16:36 the gym time is over. We're going back to our cell. And we're going to fuck in front of the guards. Come after me. Come after me with the knife. Floyd, are you ready to get the fuck out of this van? Oh, hell yeah. No, I'm excited for the last bit of these
Starting point is 00:16:56 shows. These are big. We're not doing this for us. We're doing this for Sean fucking Eccles. We're doing it for Sean. We're doing it for fucking Sean, dude. The pageant. Hometown show. We're going for it. This knife is scaring the shit out of me. Get this fucking knife.
Starting point is 00:17:10 I feel like you are legit Danny Zuko in fucking Greece now. Yeah, especially after the Danny Zuko comment. Oh, you didn't like that, huh? No, it's all right. You don't like Greece? It's not hip enough for you? What's the song on there? Grease Lightning.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Yeah, besides that. That one, yeah. You're nards. Tell me more. Tell me more. Floyd, what was your favorite show of the year, if you remember any? Do you even care? Let's see.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Do you even fucking care? Do you even fucking care about this band? What show do you like? The show I worked on for... Oh, yeah. I Heart the 90s. Yeah. National Geographic. His favorite show was I Heart the 90s. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:45 National Geographic. His favorite show was I Heart the 90s. Yeah, yeah. He wrote the music for... Hey, guys, quick plug. Go watch I Heart the 90s. Floyd wrote all the music. No, it's called Rewind the 90s.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Oh, because I Heart the 90s is already there. That was... Yeah, this is like a different documentary. Oh, so you played on the rip-off show. You don't have to repeat that. How many... I'm sure there's a lot. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:18:08 next topic. Peach Fest. Peach Fest was great. That was good. God, it's a blur. There was something else. You don't remember anything. You don't fucking like this band.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Oh, Summer Camp. You don't like this fucking band. Do you call it Summer Camp? You don't fucking care this band. Oh, Summer Camp. You don't like this fucking band. Is that what you call it? Do you call it Summer Camp? You don't fucking care. I forget. Anyway. Whatever. Thanks, Floyd. It was the one with Mastodon on it. Yeah, okay. And I sprained my ankle in the mosh pit. I did see you jump over the VIP to get into the pit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:37 It was like a dusty mosh pit. It was amazing. Mastodon was a good one. Yeah. You don't like shit like that. Whatever. I like watching your dumbass jump in the pit and just like go at a fucking jam festival where everyone's like, ah, this is a pit. It was a very polite mosh pit. Yeah. It felt like, you know, socialism, a socialist fucking mosh pit, dude.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Like everyone's like, hey guys, there's some tea and there's some VIP. That's not how you act here. There's a VIP cookie he brewed by the laser board. Well, thanks for being on the show. Yeah, I got my best friend here to bail me out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mr. Tech guy over here. He's like, yeah, I could deal with all the guitar techs.
Starting point is 00:19:14 And he calls his best friend who's actually a guitar tech. Well, yeah. He's a guitarist. His dad's electrician. And he's a surgeon. You're a surgeon? See, this is why I know Floyd's rich. He hangs out with surgeons.
Starting point is 00:19:30 He's got to fuck it. He lives in Nantucket. Surgeons don't hang out with poor people, okay? All right, later, Floyd. Thank you so much for being on the show. Have a good day, you fucking rich motherfucker. You too. Take the knife away.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Get the knife away from me. Get out of here. All right, guys. It's been a great year. All right, guys. I want. Take the knife away. Get the knife away from me. Get out of here. All right, guys. It's been a great year. All right, guys. I want to all sing a song. Let's do a song together. We're all going to sing the national anthem before Mark Norman and Giannis Pappas.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Fucking, this is the funniest episode of the year. I saved it for the year. But, boys, we're going to do, Should we do... What song should we do? Oh, no. Floyd, you're going to start the national anthem. We're all going to sing it together. Sit down. Everybody get low.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Take a knee, boys. This is for you, World Saving Podcast fans. We're coming home. And after this episode, I'm taking a week... Oh, no, we're doing the award ceremony with Nick. Taking a week off. And then we're back for season taking a week. Oh, no, we're doing the award ceremony with Nick. Taking a week off. And then we're back for season six, baby. Take it home, Floyd.
Starting point is 00:20:30 For the land of the pea. Pea-ca-ca. Pea-pea-ca. Have a good day. We'll see you next week. Enjoy Mark Diamond. Enjoy Giannis Pappas. Let's get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:20:49 We're done with this tour. Five seconds. Really? Yeah. Why? Because it's better. Is it? It's better.
Starting point is 00:20:57 You're making music. You make people feel good. I make people go, oh, ah, don't say that. I didn't want to think about that. I heard that before. You guys play one they heard. They're like, ah. That's true, actually. ah, don't say that. I didn't want to think about that. I heard that before. You guys play one they heard, they're like, ah. That's true, actually. Fuck, I want we know.
Starting point is 00:21:10 It's got to be less lonely, too, being in a band than doing stand-up by yourself, too, right? That's another reason, yeah. You want to blow your brains out in a hotel room. No, musicians do that, too, actually. They do, but you guys do it with, like, a lot of drugs. We do it just sitting there Dicking our hand Jerked off for the tenth time Yeah that's how
Starting point is 00:21:27 Bible opened I was talking to Felipe About that like You gotta be bored of porn Dude yeah That's why you gotta Kick it up a notch You gotta see what
Starting point is 00:21:35 The chicks with dicks are doing You gotta go check out What the grannies are up to You gotta keep You gotta keep up in it man You gotta up See how gay you are Yeah you gotta
Starting point is 00:21:44 Take a peek. The only one way to find out. Yeah, black guys without their shirts on, whatever it takes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's the thing. When I got on this boat, I was like, oh, yeah, they don't really party as hard as musicians, but when they go, they fucking go. All these guys we've been hanging out with, they're going.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Mark Norman, I didn't know that man could drink. He was hammered. Yeah, I didn't know that man could drink. He was hammered. Yeah. I didn't know he was an alcoholic either. He has a real problem. I've known him for like 15 years. I'm like, oh, okay. You've got a drinking problem.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Yeah, yeah. I haven't spent four days with him. He woke up and was like, hey. It's like chill child. I'm so fucking hungover. I'm going to fix it with a beer. Come here. Yeah. Your blood I'm fixing it with a beer. Come here. Your blood itches.
Starting point is 00:22:28 That's a problem. What people don't see is backstage, he always has his opener just wind up. You got to turn him on the back and then, hey, he comes up. You ever get into like Coke or anything when you were a kid? No, no Coke.
Starting point is 00:22:42 The only thing I did was mushrooms once and I didn't have a great trip. What happened? I was just walking around going, where's the script? The script? Yeah. It's like NFL. Where's the script? People were like, what? And I was like, you guys,
Starting point is 00:22:59 I just felt like everyone was in a play or something. How old were you when you took mushrooms? High school. Really? Yeah. And then I smoked a lot of weed. I don't do good on weed, though. I get paranoid.
Starting point is 00:23:11 I think too much as it is. Yeah. Yeah. What do you overthink mostly? About life, death, the big picture, what's the point. We have similar thoughts at night. I'm a little obsessive Yeah Yeah right now
Starting point is 00:23:29 It's like alright When's the big bang coming Yeah exactly I've just been sitting In the hotel room Watching BBC Like when's China gonna When's China gonna go
Starting point is 00:23:38 Everyone's distracted Taiwan One China motherfuckers Yeah one China I keep thinking like Yeah with all these wars Happening now Like one of the aliens
Starting point is 00:23:48 Is going to say You guys are fucking idiots You know like We're all Yeah Like yeah It'd be funny Why not right now
Starting point is 00:23:55 Right Like why What are they What are they fucking Waiting for right before Bruce Like fuck it Like when are they going to
Starting point is 00:24:04 Yeah This should be a good time. Right here on this cruise. It would be great. Just a big old tidal wave with all the homies. Just watch Bert go, whoa. I did that. Is your party?
Starting point is 00:24:15 No, no. You guys are going to die because of you and your fans are not paying attention. Everyone's drunk and fat. Comfortable. It's your fault. Yeah. They're going to. He's going to. I'll give him a beer. He's like, we're aliens. We can. It's your fault. Yeah. They're going to,
Starting point is 00:24:25 he's going to give him a beer. He's like, we're aliens. We can't drink beer. Yeah. We don't melt. We are having the pizza, the buffet though.
Starting point is 00:24:33 We're all in heaven. It's like, we blame it on bird for saying the machine story the hundredth time. That would actually be a great sequel. Like if aliens came to bird and he's like, this is Leanne. They're like, And he's like, it's Leanne They're like, we don't give a fuck about Leanne His movie's the biggest movie on their planet right now
Starting point is 00:24:50 I want to know about your family, man Your mom and dad are from Greece? Yeah, my mother was born there And my dad was born in Brooklyn I grew up in Brooklyn And yeah, I just recently found out in therapy that I was raised by two traumatized war veterans.
Starting point is 00:25:10 My mother grew up, they had me when they were older. My mother grew up under Nazi occupation for four years in Greece. And I just never really thought about what that could do to a little girl. She told the story of Nazi soldiers coming in her house and the Nazis used to march through the
Starting point is 00:25:26 mountains they would take like a girl from the village and put her on a truck so the guerrillas wouldn't fire so they came looking for her sister and her sister went and headed in the mountains, my aunt and they pulled like, my mother tells the story like they pulled the blanket back and they saw my mother
Starting point is 00:25:42 and according to my mother they were like oh she's too little or whatever. Who knows? Maybe she was fucking gang raped and she blocked it out. What the fuck? They tend to do that in occupation. My dad was in the Korean War. He had PTSD.
Starting point is 00:25:57 He spent time in a hospital. I remember one time a tire popped and he fucking hit the ground. I was a little kid. I was like, what's going on? There was nobody there. Do you like, what's going on? That was a gunshot. There's nobody there. Do you think being neurotic is genetic? I think it's, I think it probably, partly.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I mean, I'm no, I'm no like a neuroscientist or whatever, but neurology, whatever, whoever handles that. I'm not a drummer. I don't know if that's their field. Yeah. But it's definitely, I think it's definitely picked up in the energy, if not genetic, not even words. It's just like you just can transfer it from someone's energy.
Starting point is 00:26:33 You know when you're around someone, you feel calm, and then you're around somebody else, you feel anxious? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, my parents were not, you know. Who made you feel anxious when you were a kid? My mom. Yeah? Why?
Starting point is 00:26:42 My mom, Brooklyn, made me feel anxious. It was a terrible time. Brooklyn in the 80s? Brooklyn in the 80s and early 90s was not great. Girls made me feel anxious. Were you getting pussy when you were a kid? Pussy. I was a popular kid.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Yeah, nice. Athlete, basketball. But I was a relationship guy because I'm not like, I'm not the, hey, don't finger me. I'm not that guy. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, hey, come watch Dangerous Liaisons. Yeah, it's got to be wild.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Because I was like, I was a sex addict when I grew up in LA, kind of big city too. And I didn't really get into drugs, but I got into sex. That's a good one to have. That's a good drug. Yeah, that's a good one to have. I don't know. I got in trouble with it because, you know, I fucked my teacher and stuff. You can't OD on what I was in high school.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Dude, I didn't know I was in the boat with my fucking hero. Let's fucking go. Fuck yeah. I liked older women when I was a kid. Yeah. How old? What are we talking? 17. And I know how old was she? I mean 18. She was 18? I gotta say 18 because I don't
Starting point is 00:27:42 want people to get in trouble. Nobody cares. They only care if you're the girl. Yeah. Really? Yeah. She just get away with shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Yeah. What about... Didn't... What's his... God, I'm hungover, but the dude that married his cousin who was like 15. Jerry Lee Lewis. Jerry Lee Lewis married his... He's in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Yeah. Muhammad married a six-year-old. He was a rock and roll guy, right? You can't even draw him anymore. He was front man he was a star i think he started dating her when she was six yeah why do you think comedians wait i want to hear more about you your teacher yeah i don't want to talk about comedy with you a spanish team she was an english teacher english teacher how did it happen um yeah She was an English teacher. English teacher. Heidi Crocker. I was just... Were you like, wow!
Starting point is 00:28:26 Yeah, I was... And she was like... We used to have sex in school. Yeah. In her office. And then she'd take me to Mexican restaurants, and she'd have a pitcher of beer waiting for me. Oh, yeah. And she's like, just show up 20 minutes late. Keep going.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Wow. This is a category on Pornhub. She's like, just show up 20 minutes late. Keep going. This is a category on Pornhub. Do you get fucking laid like that? Not as much as that. You're lying. He never got laid. Yes, I did. I thought he was talking about Ernie. Oh, no. He's talking about me. I get pussy.
Starting point is 00:29:01 He's got a big cock. Here's the thing about saxophone, though, compared to being a lead singer, you're not cool when you play saxophone until you're like 24, 25. You're still a band kid in high school, kind of. Even in college, you're still kind of a dork. Once you get in the bar,
Starting point is 00:29:14 start playing the blues a little bit, start playing with older black guys, you look cooler. Yeah. Then the pussy starts coming. Yeah. And then you get a girlfriend that's out of your league and you stop getting laid.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Yeah, okay. That's just my personal experience. Different types of chicks. You get the hot, like, show me your tits girls and you get the finger-sniffing girls. Exactly. I just read Dostoevsky.
Starting point is 00:29:38 My girlfriend does read a lot. I took piano lessons when I was 20. But I used to have a fetish with pregnant chicks. I used to have sex with pregnant girls, too. I like that, too. I love it. You see why I want to be a musician now, dude? You guys, I mean, I really would, if there's one thing I could trade being a comedian for,
Starting point is 00:29:55 it would be a musician. What would you play? A guitar. A guitar frontman. Yeah. You're a guitarist. It was killing it. Shane.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Yeah. And you guys all got that vibe, man. Just that fucking cool vibe. You just walk around. You were dancing out there. I'm like nervous to dance. You were out there. You were out there in your Jesus sandals fucking rocking out.
Starting point is 00:30:18 My Moses 11s, dude. Commanding people to stand up and sit down. And you're deceptive, too, because you look like, you know, like I grew up with you and we went to Bethlehem camp together. I went to Jewish camp. I look like I went to your bar mitzvah
Starting point is 00:30:34 and then you go up there and you're like, this dude fucking is the coolest Jewish looking guy I've ever seen. Well, I think about you too. Like, God damn, you got swag to you too. You just roll in there.
Starting point is 00:30:45 You're everyone's favorite comedian. Thank you. It's fucking legendary. Do you feel like growing up in New York helped you mature quicker to start becoming a little more intelligent than the people in the Midwest? I think so. Yeah, I think so. Also, my parents. I mean, my parents were lawyers, and my mom was a human rights lawyer. And like, yeah. So they were like, yeah, they were more about like the education.
Starting point is 00:31:09 And, um, you know, they had, my dad had a private practice. Like he did pretty well. He wasn't like rich or anything. Which side of human rights was she a lawyer for? The good side? Yeah. Nowadays. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Um, yeah, she was, uh, For children was her thing So she worked for the United Nations For a little while And she like authored a seminal piece On the Like the international rights of children For this ad hoc United Nations program called UNITAR
Starting point is 00:31:37 And so it's like a You know you can Google it And it's like one of those seminal pieces Nobody listens to international human rights though It doesn't The United Nations is like a Referee in a WWE wrestling match Yeah one of those seminal pieces. Nobody listens to international human rights, though. It doesn't. The United Nations is like a referee in a WWE wrestling match. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:49 They're just kind of there wagging their finger and America's like, fuck you. Everyone's like, shut up. Everyone's like, they get an errant chair to the face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Yeah. They're just there. What about like going, what's going on now? Like how does like, how does she deal with like the politics going on in the Middle East? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I got, she's dead. But she made it to 90. It's not tragic. I should start with that. She made it to 90 to save everyone going, I'm sorry. She made it the full way. I don't know how to say this in an appropriate way,
Starting point is 00:32:18 but you said your mom gave you so much anxiety when she was a kid. Was it a relief that she died? Yeah. It was in a relief that she died? Yeah. It was in a lot of ways. Yeah. I had a complicated relationship with her. She also had Alzheimer's for a long time,
Starting point is 00:32:33 which was a brutal process. It really kind of affected my entire life. Really? Yeah. I like stuck around for it, helped her out. It affected comedy, affected everything.
Starting point is 00:32:43 It affected, but yeah, you get wisdom from it, but it was tough. It was out. It affected comedy, affected everything. Yeah, you get wisdom from it, but it was tough. It was dark. Alzheimer's is like a long, slow... Yeah, my grandma died of that. It's brutal. It is. Only people who've been through it kind of know. It's sad. It's torturous. The weirdest thing is
Starting point is 00:32:57 there are parts of it that are also hilarious, too. Very funny. Especially the middle phase of it, before they really go off. It's kind of weird Yeah They My mother was fine She was like happy
Starting point is 00:33:08 She didn't know what was going on Imagine like you don't know What's going on Right It's pretty chill But for everybody else Who had to deal with it It sucks yeah
Starting point is 00:33:14 Yeah And especially when they start Forgetting like That you're They're son She's like She used to say Are you a relative
Starting point is 00:33:21 She had no idea Wow Yeah And I would get fun with it I'd be like No I'm Batman And I'm here to rescue you out of this place. I know the elevator code. You got to press the code on that floor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:37 It looks like your husband. Memory care floor because at the end she was in a facility. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, and you got to press the code. There's always one woman there who's fucking trying to get out. Right. So you start pressing the elevator code. You just slowly start walking.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Like, freedom, freedom. And then a couple of Jamaican nurses just come and redirect her over there. Like a train set. Yeah. Was your dad, you guys mom and dad together? No, they broke up. Yeah, they broke up. When did they break up?
Starting point is 00:34:08 When I was in high school. Oh, really? Yeah, they didn't make it the whole way. How'd you deal with divorce? I dealt with pretty, you know, they never were like in love. So, you know, that was the generation. It's like, hey, you're Greek, I'm Greek, let's get married. You know, they met in law school.
Starting point is 00:34:23 My dad was, just got out of the Korean War. My mother was one of two women in her law school, Brooklyn Law School. So I think they got married because they were Greek. And that was what people did. They used to inbreed more. It's true. We Greeks gotta stick together.
Starting point is 00:34:40 We need more Greeks. Dude, you should get some fresh jeans in there before your kid is born like with one eyebrow just fucking straight across. Need kiwi lemonade, lemonade, you know, they gotta have
Starting point is 00:34:51 different kinds of lemonade. Yeah. So they were never like in love. So them breaking up was like, made sense. It was a little, they fought.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Was it hard for you to find love because you never believed in it because you saw your parents never fucking loving each other? Yeah, I think so. I think, and also just like the unhealthy girls are the funner ones.
Starting point is 00:35:08 You know that. Yeah, yeah. They're way better. Pregnant chicks in my car. English teachers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking hot girl comes up to you like, no, no, no, no. I'm looking for an older pregnant lady.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I'm looking for the damage. Give me some cracked windows. The Baltimore version of mentally unstable. Yeah, they're just funner. And they just, like the Catholic repression or something like that is almost worth it for the freaks that they create. You know what I mean? The Catholic church is fucked up. But like Catholic girls, the way they would hike up there, you know, it's like almost worth it.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Like repression is almost worth it for what it creates. Right. And so, yeah, I mean, I pursued a lot of unhealthy women, people, but the sex was like heroin. So it was great. Healthy women are like asparagus. You're like, all right, it's good for me. They all get married when they're 23 anyways.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Yeah. My wife is great. I love her how long you been with her she's not like asparagus yeah she's asparagus with garlic and butter all right well you gotta you know your heart you're getting older you gotta keep your heart inside this side of pasta yeah two kids yeah two fresh fresh kids what's it like being a dad it changes everything like do you have kids or anything not that i know of It changes everything.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Do you have kids or anything? Not that I know of. You got to comb the local high school, see which one is fucking... English teacher's got a butt in the oven. You got an afro and you like to dance on a piano? Any pregnant teachers here? Because possibly, check the tourist schedule. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:42 It's wild. What's your relationship? Son and daughter Two daughters I got two daughters Holy shit Yeah And she My oldest daughter's three
Starting point is 00:36:51 And my youngest daughter Is four months About to be five months Oh wow Just ran And it's It changes things It definitely
Starting point is 00:36:58 It's been a transition It's been weird My parents were I had like a Not a great childhood For a lot of reasons But One of them was My parents were just never had like a, not a great childhood for a lot of reasons, but one of them was my parents were just never around. And so I want to be around for
Starting point is 00:37:09 my daughters. So this career is kind of, they're kind of opposites. So it's an adjustment. That is an adjustment. I used to love to go on the road and be away. It was like an escape, especially when my mom had Alzheimer's. It was like nobody could reach me and I just didn't have the guilt or anything of like, oh, maybe I should check or especially when she mom had Alzheimer's. It was like nobody could reach me, and I just didn't have the guilt or anything of like,
Starting point is 00:37:26 oh, maybe I should check, especially when she was living on her own. But now with kids, I want to be home. So I'll go through those moments being like, oh, I should quit. And I'm like, what? It's 20 years. To do what?
Starting point is 00:37:39 And I'm like, I just want to be home and take my daughter to soccer and stuff like that. Do you think it's better that you had kids later in your life versus younger? I think better later, but then when you have them later, you start thinking about how you're going to be here for less time. I think that's more of a worry when they're younger
Starting point is 00:37:56 and they want to be around you. I think once they turn 13, they're like, fuck you, dad, get out of here. I'll be like, oh, yeah, I'm going to be leaving soon. I'm going to die. Yeah, I'm out of here. Yeah, I have five more of them, you here. I'm like, oh yeah, I'm going to be leaving soon. I'm going to die. Yeah, I'm out of here. Yeah, I got five more, you know. I'm 76.
Starting point is 00:38:09 You're 12. I got my return ticket. Waiting for boarding. Do you feel like you're changing how you are being a father versus how you were raised? Like you saw the bad things that your parents raised you as? Yeah. What are the differences? It's a challenge too because when I had kids, my childhood just came back.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Like I was staring at my daughter and I got sad and I just had to go to therapy and be like, what is going on? And yeah, it's just kind of mourning what I didn't have. What were making you sad? It was the memories of me as a kid And like You know what my parents didn't do Or did do or whatever it was And so Yeah now when I
Starting point is 00:38:50 Do things for my daughter There's a little sadness attached to it Because I'm like oh I didn't get that So Yeah I think I think you either go two ways If you don't have like Parents who are good at it
Starting point is 00:39:03 You either like Get worse And like leave go two ways if you don't have like parents who are good at it. You either like get worse and like leave or you go the opposite direction and you become like an annoying dad. I'm an annoying dad. I'm like in bed with my... Dude, I'm not a helicopter.
Starting point is 00:39:17 I'm a pilot. I'm like in bed with her, sleeping, reading to her, waking up, tell her I love her all day. I'm mauling her. She's like, get off of me. I'm giving in bed with her, sleeping, reading to her, waking up, tell her I love her all day. I'm mauling her. She's like, get off me. Yeah. I'm giving her affection. It's just, yeah. I'm like, kick it enough.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Yeah. It's pretty fascinating because like, yeah, I was, my parents had me like eight years after they had the other kids. So they're kind of getting older, kind of getting over raising kids. Right. So like you had kids your first time older. How old are you now? 47. 47.
Starting point is 00:39:46 So it's kind of the opposite It's like oh shit now I'm not as selfish as I was You know being on the road all the time Has it changed your outlook On like taking as many gigs And like not taking the bullshit Doing real shit Oh my god There he is
Starting point is 00:40:04 The man of the hour. It makes corporate gigs a lot more... You want to get in here? Come here, Mark. Daylight coming, I want to go. Mark, motherfucker. Hey, everybody. Mark Norman.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Get in the middle. Nick, come over here. On drums, Mark Norman. On sax. We're starting a band, Mark. We're starting. But this room, what are we, in a game of Clue? Look at this thing.
Starting point is 00:40:30 It's like a whodunit in here. I'm sitting under Czar Nicholas who got killed by communists. Yeah, it's Tony Hinchcliffe and... If there's an opposite of a Burt Cruz, it's the history in this room. Who are all these fucking people, man? Where are we, dude? This is like Knives Out in here. We're talking about having sex with our teachers and pregnant women.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Have you ever done anything? I had sex with my teacher in film. I went to film school and had sex with my teacher. Really? I'm a survivor. Position of power, the whole thing. And I loved every minute of it. Did you comment her?
Starting point is 00:41:07 I think I got it right on the old face. Right on the putum. When you're that young, a little bit gets in. Right. A little bit gets in. True, true. We're talking about childhood trauma. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Well, he was raised, he was way ahead of the curve on trans issues. He was raised by a trans woman. Double minority. Black trans woman. Wasn't even really trans. Just kind of cross-dressing. Just a guy named Gary with a wig on. You had more violence than me. I had more molesting. Yeah. But you had more violence than me. I had more molesting.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Yeah. Yeah. We're broken toys. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're not. Where are you from, Mark? New Orleans. New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Oh, shit. So did you get into alcoholism early in your life? Sure, sure. We got into everything. Like what was the hardest thing you've done? Well, it was pre-internet, so you had all the time in the world to drink, try drugs, kill animals, whatever it was. You had to make shit happen, a lot of fireworks and stuff. Did you guys jerk off with friends?
Starting point is 00:42:18 Yeah, I did, actually, once. Yeah, that was a big one. We got into that one, though. Oh, I'll put in 1406 if you want to come by. That was a big one. I haven't got into that one, though. Oh, I'll bet 1406 if you want to come by. I think that crosses state lines.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I think all guys did that. I used to jerk off with friends. Really? Yeah. Oh, okay. In the dark. I used to jerk off with friends. How do you think you got on the boat?
Starting point is 00:42:46 What do you think the difference is growing up in New Orleans versus growing up in New York? I feel like there's a lot of similarities because you kind of grow up faster. You see so much. It's a high stimulation type of thing. New Orleans is like New Orleans has got the crime, the poverty, the racial stuff, the weird French thing in there.
Starting point is 00:43:01 It's got ghosts, an old building. New Orleans is like it's a whole other level. I think got like ghosts, an old building. Like New Orleans is like, it's a whole nother level of like weird. I think it's sadder than New York. New York is like a real city, booming, you know, cultures colliding. But New Orleans is a party town.
Starting point is 00:43:16 It's like Vegas with good food. You know? So when there's not the party, it's real sad. And it's so hot and muggy. Oh, it's muggy maybe. It makes it even sadder. Yeah, there's just the party, it's real sad. And it's so hot and muggy. Oh, it's muggy, baby. It makes it even sadder. Yeah, there's just this specter, the fear of just the levee breaking all the time.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yeah. You're just technically underwater, yeah. That's true. Below sea level. It's got to be fucked up. You know, it's like we do Jazz Fest every year. And we're like, we're obsessed with it. And we play and we do like Festival International and the Crawley Rice Fest.
Starting point is 00:43:44 And like you see these musicians who are just who are born to be musicians. I grew up in L.A. where everyone wanted to be an actor or a comedian where you didn't see the difference of the culture. New York, too, was like was a bunch of musicians in New York as well. What how did you not become a musician with all these fucking amazing fucking musicians? No rhythm. It wasn't for me. No rhythm. It wasn't for me. No talent.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I mean, I could see black kids doing jazz on the street, and I went to a couple jazz clubs in New York, and I was like, this is the same shit. Those kids, I mean, they're talented. It's insane. It's all these stolen instruments. It's impressive. Oh, my God. I mean, they do the bottle caps on the bottom of the shoes and make a fortune out there. The whole city is just based on the arts.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Yeah. I mean, in D.C., where I went to college, that's where go-go music was born. They just did that on buckets. Right. Black dudes would be with ba-dum-dum-da-dum, and they just buckets. It's just fucking buckets and garbage cans. Yeah. L.A., like, we're not going to play music until someone pays us for it from a movie.
Starting point is 00:44:43 It's like, fuck these people, dude. I had to get out of that rat race you know it's like this pop culture everyone wanted to get signed to a record deal no one was doing it for the music they just wanted to be popular it's like i go to towns like new york or new orleans and people just do there because that's part of the the culture of the cities that.A. has a phoniness to it because everyone just moves there. There's no culture in L.A. The culture is phony. It's celebrity.
Starting point is 00:45:12 It's like, hey, what are you driving? Is that your agent? Who's your dad? It's a stark contrast. New York and L.A. are really kind of polar opposites. It's funny. It's a one-industry town, L.A., right?
Starting point is 00:45:22 So it's like all entertainment. Right. Whereas New York is... I guess it's... There's so many industries, but it's about money more. It's about commerce and stuff. So celebrity doesn't have that same, you know, you could be at a restaurant, like Leo walks in, people are like, oh, that's Leo. But then there's some, you know, hedge fund guy who's got 16 billion sitting next door. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Who Leo's going over to his table. Right. I saw Alec Baldwin on the street last week in New York, and I almost went up to him, but he was holding a gun. No, I'm just kidding. But yeah, you're just like,
Starting point is 00:45:55 oh, there's Alec Baldwin. You have that first moment where you're like, holy shit, Alec Baldwin, but then you're like, ah, it's New York, and you keep moving. You remember when the Liver King
Starting point is 00:46:03 came to New York? Yeah. I hate that guy. The Liver King dressed like a Viking or whatever. Yeah. Whatever he does, and he's going through New York. He was doing content, and just the shit black people were screaming at him. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:46:18 What's up, He-Man? What you doing, He-Man? I see you, He-Man. He-Man. Stop trying to convince people to live eating like a caveman when people live to 16 is good for you
Starting point is 00:46:28 exactly also the naked cowboy was like hey hit the brick this is my corner I'm the shirtless bum guy I'm the fucking naked white guy here
Starting point is 00:46:37 by the way I went down I was trying to get content there was a Trump rally in lower Manhattan naked cowboy proudly just humming along MAGA hat, full boner,
Starting point is 00:46:48 all in. It's great now too because he's getting older, so he's fucking sagging. He's starting to just look like a German dad mosquito on a Greek beach. He's been out there since the 90s, I feel like. Oh, yeah. Oh, he was big. Yeah, yeah. How long have you lived in New York for, Mark? I moved there in
Starting point is 00:47:03 2007 and got mugged three times the first year. What happened? Yeah, well. How long have you lived in New York for, Mark? I moved there in 2007 and got mugged three times the first year. What happened? Yeah, well. He was white. I lived in Crown Heights. That's what happened. Yeah. And, you know, Crown Heights is a historic black and Jewish neighborhood divided right down the middle by kind of a highway or a boulevard.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Eastern Parkway. Yeah, that's it. And I lived on the black side. And all these black guys would be like, you're on the wrong side, motherfucker. down the middle by a kind of a highway or a boulevard eastern parkway yeah that's it and i lived on the black side and they all these black guys be like you're on the wrong side motherfucker and i was like i'm not jewish and they were like well we still don't care but then jews would i'd come home drunk and jews would pull up next to me in a minivan going what are you doing get in and i'm like i'm not jewish and they would slide that door and right on out of there what's the difference between living in New York
Starting point is 00:47:45 in 06 versus the 90s when you were living there? It was dicey. Was it? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he can speak to the 80s and 90s, but 06 even was different.
Starting point is 00:47:55 It was still dicey over there. It depended where you were, but it got less and less and less and less. But the 80s and 90s were, it was a nightmare. It was horrific. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:03 It was just, everyone got mugged. Like pre-Giuliani. Huh? Pre-Giuliani. Pre-Giuliani. It was just, everyone got mugged. Like pre-Giuliani? Dickens gets a bad rap. He was the mayor before. He's the one that started increasing the police and upping the budget. But we had major race riots
Starting point is 00:48:18 under Dickens that just sort of kind of soiled his tenure. But that era was just racial tension. We had massive national racial riots, like the Crown Heights riots. Yusef Hawkins was like a black dude
Starting point is 00:48:37 who got chased out of Bensonhurst, and they chased him in the highway, and he got hit by a car. Whoa. And Tawana Brawley, who made up that whole story about a cop raping her or whatever. Whoa. Yeah, Bernard Gadds, who shot the black dudes.
Starting point is 00:48:50 So it was like these incidents were just constant. And it was just like crime was everywhere. You couldn't avoid it. And there was packs of kids everywhere just jumping people. It was a terrible time. Well, it's funny, too, because New York, everybody's like, man, it's not what it used to be. The city used to have edge.
Starting point is 00:49:07 It had bite. And then one lady gets mugged and she's like, fuck this city. You're like, I thought you wanted bite, bitch. Yeah, yeah. You got bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:17 How are the drugs in the 90s versus 06? They were safer, man. Were they? Yeah. I mean, I don't know about 06, but yeah, nobody was dying from drugs. Also in New York,
Starting point is 00:49:29 nobody did hard drugs. Like, you know. Just blow. Yeah, I don't think, just blow or weed or if you were a heroin addict, then that was like you were in music or whatever. Nobody goes through a heroin phase in college. It's like, I'm in a band.
Starting point is 00:49:48 That's my lifestyle. That phase doesn't end well. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that was what I was thinking, because I was telling you guys, is that musicians, there's just drugs all the time. I feel like with comedians, it's less coke and fucking... No, no, there's a lot of drugs.
Starting point is 00:50:04 It's around. It's around. It's cooled down. I think a lot of people got sober because people died. A lot of people started dying. That happened to music, too, though. Definitely, it's not as bad as it was 10 years ago with some people. Have you seen our band? Well, your band's an outlier.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Everyone's doing below in this fucking band. I'd say, in general, though, musicians are more conscious about drugs, just like everyone else is. But your band is an outlier, yes. But yeah, in New York, people did less drugs, just like everyone else is. But your band is an outlier, yes. But yeah, in New York, people did less drugs, I think, because there was more to do. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Like, I would go to the suburbs, like, I didn't see many suburbs when I was going, when I would go, and the people talked about all the drugs. It's like, I still don't think we have a drug problem in this country.
Starting point is 00:50:42 I think we got a boring suburbs problem. That's why, though, how many times can I go fucking cozy up to the bar at Chili's and get the two for 20 mil? It's like, there's nothing to do out there. Right. You're in a fucking boring street. That's why Ohio has the biggest heroin epidemic and not New York City and LA. There's nothing to do.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Like, I was going to clubs at 14, 15. Yeah. You know, it was great. What were the drugs like in New Orleans, Mark? It's a lot of in New Orleans, Mark? New Orleans has got a hippy-dippy vibe to it There's a lot of acid growing up And it's still Louisiana So the meth was around
Starting point is 00:51:12 Oh yeah I was talking to Felipe He was talking about how he loved crack Really? He did it for like 10 years He said he was going on tour in like Texas and like asking room service for a baking soda and a big ass spoon.
Starting point is 00:51:29 He called down to room service for baking soda and a spoon. And they brought it to him. And they brought it to him and they brought a security guard to see, we just want to see what this dude was like to ask for a fucking baking soda. Reverend Finn, people. Wow, he was a crackhead. That explains every conversation I've had with him. Y'all, what's up, Mike?
Starting point is 00:51:48 Hey, how you doing? Yeah. You guys, you're a sports head too, Mark? Not really. You're a sports head though. So when you're a kid, what was the reason why you fell in love with sports?
Starting point is 00:52:06 Were you trying to get away from it? It was just what me and my friends did. We played wiffle ball. So you grow up, it's city block. So we always used somebody's gate as the strike zone. Because everyone's connected houses. Played football on the street. It was just sports and basketball. You grow up in the Catholic leagues, which was
Starting point is 00:52:25 still some of the best memories of my childhood because it was serious. You play 30, 40 games. You travel around the city. I played with guys who ended up being great. I played with Manny Ramirez in baseball. Oh, shit. Really?
Starting point is 00:52:40 The Dominican kid who lived in Washington Heights is Bonnie's. I played for St. Saviour's. And it's funny. Those kids that... I've also had a couple of sports shows. Athletes, it's crazy. They're freaks.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Like, they're not... There's something freaky about them. Like, I took a picture with Gronkowski once. Dude, his hands... Like, his hands look like catchers. Right. They're like... They're mutants.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Right. And Manny Ramirez was like that At like 7 He was just like dinging shit And we were just these little kids And he was just like a man Now he has 300 million dollars It's just crazy These guys gotta have hogs on them too I was thinking about Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift
Starting point is 00:53:22 This is probably the first big hog Taylor's hat. You know? Yeah. She said like Harry Styles or not. He's not like fucking just plowing. I think it's not just boning. I think it's her first boyfriend that's taller than her.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Right. It's gotta be. She's like six one or something. She's tall. Fuck. I think about that because like I'm into, I love, I think of being in a band,
Starting point is 00:53:44 like being on a basketball team, you know, point guard, shooting guard. I think of being in a band like being on a basketball team. Point guard, shooting guard. Do you like the collaborative way of doing your art versus a solo? Because you guys are solo acts in a sense. I love solo sport. UFC, tennis. I like skateboarding. I like a one-on-one boxing.
Starting point is 00:54:03 I like that more than a team. A team to me, it kind of all just blends together. It's just, you know, the red versus the blue. You know? I like when you can get behind the guy. Like, wow, this UFC fighter beat his wife. He had a coke problem.
Starting point is 00:54:18 He fights or has dog fights in his back. I like to get to know him and then watch him fight. Or watch him play. Yeah, I like them both. I like to get to know him and then watch him fight or watch him play. Yeah, I like them both. I really do enjoy them both. I did sketch when I started doing stand-up, so I got a little bit of both.
Starting point is 00:54:32 I like them both. I like them both probably equally. There's nothing like when you get a rhythm with a comic and a podcast has really facilitated that nicely. Yes. Like two-man comedy
Starting point is 00:54:42 is back like it was during Costello and Abbott, but it's different. It's like riffing. It's like jazz. It's jazz. You could really create a fun hour of comedy just off the top of the head in this new format, which is fun. Yeah, my friend,
Starting point is 00:54:58 he works in a machine shop all day, and he just podcasts all day, and he feels connected to the comics, and it's so entertaining. Do you feel like your fans know a little too much about you now? Sometimes, yeah. Like you're walking around and they feel
Starting point is 00:55:13 like you're their friend and they just want to hang out. I feel like that would be a little annoying. That's what happens with us too, having a podcast. That's the weird part. I'm always like, I'm an introvert. I'm gay. I'm anxiety ridden. I'm in my room and people are like, I get it, man. You want to hang out? I'm like, wait, what?
Starting point is 00:55:30 Let's get dinner. How about this guy? The guy you're like, hey, I'm coming to Cleveland. The guy's like, we should get a beer. I have a guest house. You can stay with me. I live three hours out of town. We can feed my snake. I'm like, what? Why would I want to do that? I got a hotel. What triggers your anxiety, Mark?
Starting point is 00:55:46 Oh, you know, people. People. Some ethnicities. No, no. I don't know. I'm not scared of people like climate change or cancer or whatever. I'm just worried about pissing people off. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:56:04 Yeah, that's my whole thing. Really? That's surprising. I know. I think that's why I say crazy shit because I'm like, just get it over with. You know? Just push through it. Who are you more worried about pissing off? Your fans or your wife? Oh, the fans. I mean, she married
Starting point is 00:56:20 me, so that's on her. I'm like, hey, this is what you got, sister. Yeah. I was thinking about when you were saying like, I, I went to a bunch of those sex clubs in Berlin and I love Berlin. We tour in Berlin all the time. It, it, the freedom of Berlin. It reminds me, I thought new, maybe New York was like that in the nineties and maybe early two thousands. But, um, what was your, how was your experience in Berlin?
Starting point is 00:56:42 Well, I thought it was amazing, but I feel like America's gotten so problematic that this would be just a Me Too factory in this club. It was just naked women and grabbing ass and dicks swinging and shit and people jerking off. People just sit here jerking off next to you. And you're like, oh, how about that? How'd you get hard?
Starting point is 00:57:03 I looked at everyone else. He's a piece of shit. Look at the guy Disassociated He's a performer Showtime It wasn't easy Did you put on the glasses and said it's time to go to work? Yeah
Starting point is 00:57:17 Tell me What fascinated you with public sex? I just was When in Rome I'm not with public sex? I mean, I just went in Rome. I'm not a public sex guy, but I was like, we're here, we're in Berlin, we'll never come back. Might as well bang in the middle of a dance floor. Was it hot? No, she was getting into it.
Starting point is 00:57:36 She likes public. I don't like it. I was just head on a swivel. I was fucking like the way a squirrel does in a park. Like, is there anyone around? It's a lot easier to be an attractive woman when you're naked, I think. Yeah, yeah. My balls are hanging out. It's not great.
Starting point is 00:57:52 They don't make statues of people like us. You know what I'm saying? Good point. Do they hose it down? What do they hose down the spa? Have you ever been to a whorehouse? Have you ever had sex with hookers? Oh, me?
Starting point is 00:58:04 You want me to fucking record that? I took my band. We play in China, Hong Kong. We opened for Justin Bieber. Whoa. You said China, Hong Kong. Okay, good. Well, Macau, actually, like the gambling part.
Starting point is 00:58:18 As long as you said China, Hong Kong, or else you'd have to issue like a John Cena apology in Chinese. Like what? Like an LeBron James or something. Justin was in this media beef and Scooter gave us Justin's hookers and they let our band have sex with hookers. It was only me and my
Starting point is 00:58:37 sound man had the balls to actually do it, but we went out there and it really felt like cattle herd. They were washing down. It was all plastic and they washed it down and they had hoses in the rooms and shit. Berlin's not like that. It was like
Starting point is 00:58:53 just clubs, right? It was like the five clubs. It was just like Filipino guys going, washy, washy. Singing Mariah Carey. It was like, yeah, cause at first It was Filipino women Hosing you down
Starting point is 00:59:08 And we had to take Three baths Three Yeah and then we all Got naked in a hot tub And it was like The first time Seeing my band's dicks
Starting point is 00:59:15 And then I started Getting real insecure And jealous And jealous yeah Cause my dudes have hogs I was like Fuck dude This is so embarrassing
Starting point is 00:59:22 Who got the biggest hog My guitar player, for sure. He's got that energy. He's got big dick energy. He wouldn't fit in the room, so he couldn't come to this. You guys ever do any of that stuff? I'm a married guy. I've only had sex with my wife.
Starting point is 00:59:39 What about when you guys were single comedians? Was it fun, wild? It was great. What were you guys doing? It was fun, but the quality of Poon Tang was lower. Yeah, I've been with a couple of Macaus. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:59:55 comedy groupies is not like rock and roll groupies. Really? Yeah. But you guys are reinventing the rock star. Mark, you're a fucking rock star. Well, now it's kind of shifted to that because rock, no offense, not you guys, but it's gotten kind of soft. I've been telling people this. It kind of doesn't exist anymore
Starting point is 01:00:12 for anyone under 35, really. It's like Coldplay or Vampire Weekend. Yeah, there's a couple guys left. Yeah, but they're all in their 50s. Yeah, and it's definitely chilled, like, tame Impala. We can't even have an Impala. It's got to be a tame Impala. Everything's just kind their 50s. Yeah, and it's definitely chilled, like, tame Impala. We can't even have an Impala. It's got to be a tame Impala.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Everything's just kind of chilled out. And I think stand-up has that bite and that dick that people have been craving. I love it. It's so fascinating. It's a good point. Like, I don't, I'm trying to, like, yeah, is rock and roll dying? It's probably a phase, you know, ebb and flow kind of thing. So it'll come back.
Starting point is 01:00:46 But I feel like hip hop kind of got the dick cooking. But it'll come back. It kind of reminds me of how blues musicians were in the 80s and 90s where they were sort of a nostalgia act. But they would still draw tickets and do theaters. That's how all those rock bands that were popular in the 90s are now.
Starting point is 01:01:03 They're still out there playing and touring. But it's about 10,000 less people than it used to be and everyone's in their age group right my buddy just went to a festival in Vegas called the way we were then oh yeah it's a call when we were young when we were young at the emo one yeah it was like offspring
Starting point is 01:01:19 and some 41 and he said it was like beyond packed it was like 65,000 people there or something. So there is still a craving for that real rock. Yeah. Nostalgia is a big thing right now.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Sure, sure. It's like a human resource nightmare now. Yeah. Rock. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, it used to be, you know, hitting the lady with a fish. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:39 TV coming out of the window in the hotel room. Groupies. Right. Now there's just like, yeah, everyone sues. Yeah. I was talking to you
Starting point is 01:01:47 about this. What is the toughest part about being a comedian traveling by yourself? For me, it's being away from the family now. Like I said,
Starting point is 01:01:54 I used to be, I used to love it a lot more. I still love it. This has been great being around comics, but yeah, the hotel room alone after you've been doing it
Starting point is 01:02:03 for a long time. It's gotta be lonely. Yeah, like I tell you, it's only so many times you can been doing it for a long time... It's got to be lonely. There's only so many times you can discipline your dick. So many times you can go and get sauce again. What about you, Mark? You get weird in that hotel. I've jizzed on everything in a hotel. The drapes, that doorknob.
Starting point is 01:02:20 You've got to make it fun for yourself. You've got to get weird. Oh, yeah. I go, room service. And I go, come on in. You gotta make it fun for yourself Yeah You gotta get weird Room service guy Oh yeah They go Room service And I go Come on in No
Starting point is 01:02:29 But yeah I kinda like the alone time But I don't have a family Really yet So I dig all that That road stuff Yeah
Starting point is 01:02:37 To me it's just the airport The Uber To the airport To the terminal To the baggage To the Uber again That's the part that kills me. What's the difference? You're in these towns
Starting point is 01:02:48 for three days. We only get one day, one night. What's the difference between playing for three different crowds that isn't the same crowd versus playing here where you're basically playing for the same people? That part sucks. It sucks, right? How are you working on your bits?
Starting point is 01:03:03 How are you trying to save some stuff for the bigger nights versus the other nights? How do you do that? I've been doing boat jokes. Wrote some jokes for the boat. Stuff like that. And then Q&A. Yeah. Because I think...
Starting point is 01:03:16 Yeah, they don't want to hear my shit. I do that tonight. Yeah. Do the Q&A. And they know everything about you, so they'll have good questions. You can just call everybody fat. Yeah. Wrap it up.
Starting point is 01:03:25 There you go. That's easy. Like, last night, we were all fucking hammered. Like, day three on the boat, the bender starts kicking. Oh, yeah. Last night was my worst one. Last night was your worst one? What about you, Mark?
Starting point is 01:03:36 How was your show last night? It was tough. My worst drinking. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. This group chat is insane with all you guys. It's so great to normally group chat with bands Like where's the coke at
Starting point is 01:03:49 We're drinking we're at the Haven We're talking about stand up We got the industry on ours So you kind of have to But if we had our own It would just be dicks Or we'd take pictures of shits. That's a big one.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Comedian group chats are holy mackerel. What are they like? Yeah, I mean, the only thing that could make us laugh, like I always had this idea there should be like a clown, a comedy clown for us to go laugh because the things that would make us laugh is like him rolling out a baby and like fucking beating it or kicking a dog.
Starting point is 01:04:25 We're like, ah! Because we're so jaded. We're around it so much. So comedians tend to just get dark and go the racial whatever. Just the darkest, darkest jokes. It just kind of spirals into evil. It's like a drug. You kind of keep upping it.
Starting point is 01:04:41 And we're all the way on heroin, fentanyl, anal. Your tolerance is insane right now. Yeah. Oh, yeah. upping it and we're all the way on heroin, fentanyl, anal. Your tolerance is insane, right? Yeah. Why are the best comedians the most depressed, the most darkest? They need it the most, probably. They need the laughs the most. They need the attention the most.
Starting point is 01:04:57 And we're constantly just observing, so when you take a lot in, you're like, this is sad, that's fucked up, the world's crazy. Is it fucked up that you're always just making fun of yourselves? No, it keeps you sane. That's healthy. I think comedy keeps everyone sane. We're the only people fucking keeping people sane.
Starting point is 01:05:15 I know. But who's keeping you guys sane? That's the tough part. Happening. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. How are you getting your, how are you getting your dopamine if you're giving it out? And therapy, yeah. And you get it out from performing. That helps.
Starting point is 01:05:30 You get a bump there, and therapy, and exercise, cold plunge, whatever the internet says. Whatever Andrew Huberman says, I do. I breathe, I take deep breaths, I hold it for five seconds, I cold plunge. One more. Magnesium, I don't know what people are selling nowadays. You guys get panic attacks? Oh, yeah. I've been cart what people are selling nowadays. Do you guys get panic attacks?
Starting point is 01:05:45 Oh, yeah. I've been carted off on a stretcher in a comedy club. What? What happened? Providence, Rhode Island. Comedy Connection. Really? Yeah. What happened?
Starting point is 01:05:53 At the time, it was a lot. My dad just got cancer. My mom was just going to the memory care facility. I was just doing a lot. And in retrospect, I think it was just overwhelmed. I just released that first special I did with Schultz. And I didn't have any material. And I had a, it was all podcast fans at the time.
Starting point is 01:06:15 So it was so long. I knew they watched the special. So I was nervous. I didn't have material. So I didn't sleep. I didn't eat. I got in there and it just, I got up on stage and it's just like the black curtain came down. And I just got off stage. And then I tried to drink, tried to eat. Didn't eat. I got in there and it just, I got up on stage and it's just like the black curtain came down and I just got off
Starting point is 01:06:26 stage. And then I tried to drink, tried to eat, didn't work. And then the owner was like, are you diabetic? I'm like, no. He's like, you want me to call an ambulance? And I was like, I guess so. And then, you know, once you get on the stretch, you start feeling better. Oh, fuck. There's nothing wrong with me. I'm a pussy. And it was
Starting point is 01:06:42 also like New England asshole EMTs So like What the fuck's wrong Was it your first night Yeah Was it your first time Doing comedy
Starting point is 01:06:50 Yeah Yeah fucking Your pussy's alright Yeah You fucking got a little scared Oh my god It was like Shit the fuck up
Starting point is 01:06:58 Peter Griffin Yeah They were not fun That's wild I heard in a podcast It was embarrassing Getting fucking carted out through the crowd
Starting point is 01:07:06 and people stood up like I was a football player going like, I was like, okay, I'm sorry. Aaron Rodgers. I'm a nervous guy.
Starting point is 01:07:14 I apologize. DeMar Hamlin being reeled out of there. Right. You know, the vaccine. Exactly. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:07:21 people would have just fucking put in the vaccine emoji if it was. That's true. Yeah. It's funny when everyone dies. You just see a bunch of vaccine emojis. It's a bunch of people on Twitter trying to say Matthew Perry drowned from the vaccine.
Starting point is 01:07:32 That's hilarious. They're saying that Matthew Perry drowned. There's all those people online saying that he is from the vaccine. I don't think it works exactly like that. That guy was doing opiates. He was on Friends. Could have been the 30 years of pills. He's like,
Starting point is 01:07:45 Could I be any more dead? Dude, when they did that reunion, he came out with no teeth. I was high all the time. Yeah, we know. Fun fact about Friends, if we're going in.
Starting point is 01:08:05 The lead singer of Counting Crows. Adam Duritz. Yeah, he fucked Courtney Cox and Jennifer Aniston. Really? Pretty good little run. He was kind of the John Mayer of the 90s with Pussy, right? He banged everyone. He banged a bunch of other actresses, too.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Sha-la-la-la-la. Yeah. He had dreads. Oh, yeah. White guys with dreads. That was before that was bad. Sure. Also, side note, those are fake dreads.
Starting point is 01:08:29 No. Yep, he wears a wig. What? Shut up. Yeah, dude. Stolen valor. He's Orthodox Jewish? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:35 He's got this. Yeah, we opened for the Counting Crows. And he put a wig on? He put a fucking wig on. What? Like a black woman at church? It was like a weave, dude. It was wild. Yeah, dude. It was wild.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Yeah, I couldn't believe it. I'm like, you're my idol. And he's like, I'm like... Is anything real? And he looked me in the mirror and looked that way. And he put his fucking wig on. I'm like, oh, dude. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:08:56 It's not even cool to have dreads. If you're going to have a wig, do something cool. Well, I think what it was is his hair was falling out later in his career. He probably had dreads when he was younger. And he just like, that was his image now. They weren't always fake. Okay, okay, okay. Wow. Damn, what a pussy man. He was fucking both of them?
Starting point is 01:09:12 Oh yeah, he did very well. Who's the pussy man in the comedy scene? Who gets it? I think Pete Davidson has the crown. Oh yeah. Have you ever, have you met him before? Sure. Yeah. He's got a hog on him, right? Yeah. That's the word. He's just like, I can see when he, right? Yeah. That's the word. What's his like,
Starting point is 01:09:25 he's just like, I could see when he's like, you know, he's just fucked. Like, you know, skinny white dudes. It just happens.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Yeah. Tattoos. God damn it. Yeah. He, I mean, it is, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:09:37 His level is crazy. Who's like the smallest dick in the community? Be honest. I don't know. Smallest dick. Bobby Lee. Ballpark guest there.
Starting point is 01:09:53 I haven't seen it, so I guess everybody would know. Is it hard to commit to someone when you're always on the road? Sure. When did you finally meet your person? I think we both had a solid run. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:06 It was a nice run. Pre-marriage. So you kind of got it out. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely had fun. Yeah. Definitely had fun.
Starting point is 01:10:14 And I had fun before comedy. Yeah. I got it in. Yeah. Yeah. It's fucking amazing. I was ready to do it. I was ready to...
Starting point is 01:10:22 Part of it was like, I did that. Yeah. It just felt kind of all right. So it was like, I did that. Yeah. It just felt kind of, all right. So it was like, you know, later in life, it's lucky.
Starting point is 01:10:29 What we do, you can do that. Yeah. There's no, there's nobody who's like a lawyer going like, I'm going to fucking get all the pussy until I'm 60. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:10:37 No CPAs like, let's go boys. That guy's leaving cash on a dresser and paying for it. Oh yeah. Yeah. And there's only so many times you can fuck Miss Pat. We had a history. If you were comedians, what would you be?
Starting point is 01:10:52 I've thought about this a lot. UPS. Well, I don't want to work in an office. I'm outdoors in the truck, no door. Got the shorts on. Everybody loves a package. Bring packages to the door. You're out in the suburbs. no door. Got the shorts on. Everybody loves a package. Bringing packages to the door. You're out in the suburbs.
Starting point is 01:11:07 You probably meet some housewives, you know, the husbands at work. And she's been having a few of those during the day. You pop in. What can Brown do for you? You get the hell out of there. Makes sense. What about you, Yos? Oh, man
Starting point is 01:11:26 I don't think I would be able to do anything Maybe a teacher Right I can see that Yeah, and this country is a very low standard for that So I just show up Yeah Just show up and yeah
Starting point is 01:11:37 If you're athletic, would you be an athlete? I'd probably be like Yeah, the athlete would be number one Yeah Yeah, that was like the pipe dream I thought I was like make rationalize it I was like, make, rationalize it. I was like, my mother was born in Greece. I can go move to Greece.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I'll play there as if those guys aren't good. They're good too. I just wasn't good enough at all. Not even close. Do you think, Mark, if growing up in New Orleans, if you didn't just absorb yourself with music, or was music a big part of your culture growing up? Growing up, I never did it, but I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Yeah, so who were you listening to? What was the vibe? Well, we had our own bands. First of all, Lil Wayne's from there. We had all the hot boys, Juvenile. That was huge. I saw Lil Wayne at the mall when I was younger. We were the same age.
Starting point is 01:12:21 But then we have Rebirth and all these great bands. Galactic. All from there. And in my specials, I have all New Orleans music. Sick. Just to represent. Yeah, we tour with Galactic a bunch. Oh, yeah? Yeah, Ben Allman produced two of our records. Whoa! Yeah, I mean, that's
Starting point is 01:12:39 what I fell in love. Dr. John, Professor Longhair. That's like the reason why I play piano. Really? I love Dr. John Professor Longhair That's like the reason Why I play piano Really I love Dr. John New Orleans is so special man I would I can't live there
Starting point is 01:12:50 Because I'm such an alcoholic And like I love coke and shit That I would die there You don't want to live there though Take it from a guy who It's like seeing a
Starting point is 01:12:59 Trans person In the morning Right You know Because like It's fun You know When Because like, it's fun. When it's all dolled up, you're drinking,
Starting point is 01:13:08 you're eating gumbo, you're at Mardi Gras, you're at a jazz club. Yeah. And then, you know, after a few years of living there, you're like,
Starting point is 01:13:15 you see the cracks in the ball bag. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you ever seen anyone get shot? I've seen shot. I've seen stabbings. It's,
Starting point is 01:13:24 I never saw a guy die, but I saw the boom, boom, and then the guy went, ah, and I got the hell out of there. I was in New Orleans for one day. The Joker's cruise took off from there. It was this boat. I think I told you this. I saw a homeless dude get hit with a brick, and I saw another dude chasing another dude with a knife. What? And it was like,
Starting point is 01:13:45 yeah, I was there one day. Yeah. It was the most, New Orleans is sketchy as fuck. Yeah. That was the most elaborate impractical Joker's prank
Starting point is 01:13:52 of all time. Murders in the back room, hit him with the brick. It's like, yeah, I've never seen anything like that happen before, but like,
Starting point is 01:14:04 have you ever, anything like that happened to you? Have you ever gotten stabbed, shot, like anything? I got shot, yeah, I've never seen anything like that happen before. But like, have you ever, anything like that happened to you? Have you ever gotten stabbed, shot? I got shot, yeah. He got shot. You got shot? Yeah. What?
Starting point is 01:14:11 Yeah. Do you want to talk about it or no? I mean, I've talked about it a lot, but yeah, it's, yeah, I was, it was when I first started doing comedy and I was working at nightclubs. My friend had a, he was a promoter at a nightclub and it was like an attempted robbery on him. He had a bunch of cash. He would leave with like a bunch of cash. And yeah, I got shot point blank range with a .38 right in the fucking inner thigh.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Thank God you didn't die. I mean. It's lucky because it's the main artery. Missed the main artery. Wow. We were just talking with Felipe about that. His buddy, they saw, he saw, he was in a gang. He was, and when he was 14, he saw someone just shoot point blank, kill him right in front.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Yikes. I loved it. You've been shot right through the leg, but Providence Comedy Connection, that's really scary shit right there. No panic attack. Yeah, the irony of it is when it was happening, I was calm, collected, made decisions,
Starting point is 01:15:06 and then the anxiety hit afterward. That's when my panic attack started was after that. Oh, really? That's when they started. Interesting. So you think that's
Starting point is 01:15:15 how PTSD starts? Yeah, that's how PTSD is. Like, your brain just fucking protects you when it's happening. You're just calm. You get all these chemicals, I guess adrenaline
Starting point is 01:15:24 and whatever else, cortisol. You know, you're just... I was calm and collected while it's happening, you're just calm. You get all these chemicals, I guess, adrenaline and whatever else, cortisol, you know, you're, you're just, I was calm and collected while it was happening. I was making decisions. And then afterwards I'd be in the subway and be like,
Starting point is 01:15:32 yeah, yeah. And I didn't know it wasn't like commonly known what those were then. So I had no idea what was happening to me. Right. Really weird. Makes you think about guys in like thes after World War I or whatever, and they just didn't know what anything was.
Starting point is 01:15:47 There was no therapy. There was no medication. There was no psychology. It was just like, I'm different now. Then you hit your wife or whatever just to get through it. That's why the baby boomers
Starting point is 01:15:55 were so fucked up. They were raised by a bunch of World War II veterans that didn't get therapy. No therapy or anything. Take it back to what we started talking about. My dad spent a month in a hospital afterwards. He was like, yeah, I had a rash, and they told me I would get nervous once in a while.
Starting point is 01:16:11 They had no idea. Right. After Korea. Depression, anxiety, none of that shit was real. 1992 or something, that wasn't a depression. Do you have any PTSD over anything, Mark? Well, not much. When I was a kid, we lived in this big house that was kind of dilapidated.
Starting point is 01:16:26 So we got robbed all the time. People would break in the house. And as a little kid, you're sleeping in your bed upstairs, and you just hear glass break. That's fucking brutal. It was brutal. And you're just like, are they going to come up here? Are they going to go down there? So that made me skid.
Starting point is 01:16:42 And that happened six times a year, seven times a year. You're like, oh, fuck, there's someone in the house. And then you go downstairs and the TV's gone or whatever. Yeah. That's brutal. So that messed with me. Oh, especially as a little kid. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Fuck you up. Big bed wetter. I think it was all trauma, all fear. Oh, yeah. Do you ever get that? Does it ever like you remember it? Sometimes you're in New York or like you said you got mugged. Oh, dude.
Starting point is 01:17:06 I go to my apartment. I have a small New York apartment and I go and when I'm home alone, I'm like, I'm looking under the bed. I check the shower and I'm like, what am I doing? There's like 50 units of child stuff. My door was locked. Everything was locked, but I still have that like, he's in here. There's a guy in here. Yeah, I was afraid of Jesus when I was a kid.
Starting point is 01:17:23 I watched Passion of the Christ. I watched Passion of the Christ way too early in my life. And I swear to God, I would not take the trash out. I wouldn't go upstairs if it was dark. I was horrified of Jesus. Wow. Well, that movie didn't make him see. Dude, they're like, fucking kill the Jews. I was like, oh, no, no, no, I got to go.
Starting point is 01:17:45 Shouldn't he be scared of you since you're Jewish? You killed him. Good point. Yeah. No, no, no. You're the aggressor here. I've never heard of that. That makes sense.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Yeah. He's got to go. Oh, I got five. Okay, yeah. Thank you. Let's end this now. Thanks, guys. So, Mark, thanks for being here.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Hey, thank you. I heard you had a big one last night. Yeah, I'm hurting. You're hurting. I'm hurting. We stayed out too late. It was brutal. I didn't get to bed until like 7. Hey, thank you. I heard you had a big one last night. Yeah, I'm hurting. You're hurting. I'm hurting. We stayed out too late. It was brutal. I didn't get to bed until like 7.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Yeah, same. And you can't jerk off. There's no porn. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Brutal. Well, you got to buy the... I bought the $200 internet so I could do it.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Just for the yank. I bought it. It helps, but it's still shoddy. It is shoddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to jerk off to it like a freeze spray. Yeah. Remember when you used to have to beat off to just regular pictures
Starting point is 01:18:27 I used to lay the magazines out and make it a movie it was like the prehistoric multiple browsers it was like compilation porn well guys thanks for being on the show you guys are goats to me and as musicians we're just in awe of someone just going up there with their dick out solo.
Starting point is 01:18:52 If we do music, we're pussies. We have five other people behind us. You have to do this by yourself in front of theaters. And I'm envious, and I'm just thankful you're there to laugh with all of us. Hey, thanks. We can't do anything else. Yeah. So that's all we got.
Starting point is 01:19:09 UPS just got a bunch of good new contracts. My last question is, when it's all said and done, what do you want to be remembered by? Oh, you know, just funny, got some laughs, you know, told some good zingers. You want to be looked at as a good comic, not a hack. That's really all. Nice guy. Me too. Same exact.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Ditto. What he said. For sure. You want the respect. You want the respect. Makes people laugh. Be thought of as a good dude. There's some comics who died and they died and they're like... Right. Some guy like Todd Lynn.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Yeah, exactly, yeah. Exactly. He was a dick. Yeah. I had some family members like that. Yeah, yeah. Right. You can really tell who someone was when they died. Yeah, yeah, yeah. True. How people react. He was always on time.
Starting point is 01:19:59 They're taking up the worst confidence. He wore pants when he went outside. Exactly. Well, keep up the great work, guys, and I'll see you on the road, probably. Thanks, guys. Thanks for having me. Have a good one. Later.
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