Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 250: Mark Normand & Yannis Pappas (Season 5 finale)
Episode Date: December 19, 2023In which we present to you the finale of what continues to be season 5... or were it 6? We may be confused about the entirely arbitrary season number, but you know what we're not confused about? The l...ove we have for y'all. Andy checks in with each member of the U.N. to give thanks, praise, and due shade. Listen in for some highlights of this past year and to ask the eternal question: Will this band of brothers be content with the end of tour? Can they find peace in the quiet of home life?? Or will they long for the sweet embrace of THE ROAD (and each other's loving embrace)??? Kiss your homies. And on the Interview Hour we got comedians, Mark Normand & Yannis Pappas! Flex your love for other and don't shy away from laughing at yourself. Stay tuned for next week's award ceremony with one, Mr. Nick Gerlach. Peace OUT oh and guess what.... you can watch this episode; now in color! Psyched to partner up with our buddies at Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. Call, leave a message, and tell us if you think one can get addicted to mushrooms: (720) 996-2403 Check out our new album!, L'Optimist on all platforms Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out our good friends that help us unwind and sleep easy while on the road and at home: dialedingummies.com Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Arno Bakker Brian Schwartz
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Hey, it's Schwartz. Listen.
I just heard that you took one of our sweet, sweet, amazing artists that we work with to do blow, to do cocaine.
And she didn't do it, thankfully.
But why would you subject her to even coming with you to do that?
And why are you even doing it?
And I've heard you say this before, and it's unacceptable.
Cocaine is not your
Adderall. That's not how it works. If you want to do Adderall, do Adderall. Go to a doctor like a
fucking human. Don't prescribe cocaine as an Adderall substitute for yourself. What is going
on? And first of all, and then you're bitching at me about and you crushed it. And then you're like,
and then you're bitching to me about and you crushed it and then you're like oh oh oh i didn't mean the mf so first of all don't do blow in front of sweet sweet people who don't do drugs try not
doing it at all and two don't just find cities to bitch about and then mean and then say oh i'm in
another city all right get home get your shit together pull your head out of your ass and and
and drink some fucking water and and
please go walk around with the band and crew and hand out some waters
all right and we're live andy frasco's world's favorite podcast i'm andy frasco
the season finale. Season fucking five
finale of the
World Saving Podcast. I can't believe we've
done 251
episodes. 250 episodes.
Fucking nuts.
I, um, yeah.
We're ready. I'm ready to go the fuck home.
How are the boys? Y'all feeling good about this?
Let's get some boys in here. I haven't... Sean, come in
here. I haven't talked to you in a while. Sean Eccles, ladies and gentlemen. How's the boys? Y'all feeling good about this? Let's get some boys in here. Sean, come in here. I haven't talked to you in a while.
Sean Eccles, ladies and gentlemen.
How's it going?
Man, we're out here.
We're on Tuesday.
Oh, hey, Skip.
We're touring.
We got three more shows left.
We've been touring our asses all day.
Your hair looks beautiful.
It's fucked up.
It looks straight.
Yeah, it's like Prince Valiant going on right now
because I wore a fucking beanie in the van all day
so I could sleep.
How's it going?
It's going great, man.
Yeah?
You feeling good?
Floyd just fucked my guitar all up, so we're going to see if it works.
Yeah, Floyd, he brings his friend over here, and now he thinks he's a fucking guitar tech.
I mean, I can't do it myself, so we'll see if Floyd can take a whack at it.
How are you doing?
I'm ready to go home, bro.
Yeah?
You're not going to go home.
I'm not.
I'm going to go straight to Chicago to go hang out with Bayless and the Humphries crew and that's right then
we'll see you in Outer Banks Outer Banks what are you gonna do you just gonna
sleep maybe gonna actually sleep no sleep a lot you're working though sleep
during the day cuz I do my best work under the cover of darkness that's where
that's my boy that's my show pony there he is Under the darkness Oh yes You have a lot of gigs
Oh a french fry
Hey Skip
I have gigs in January
Oh
That's good
That's bomb
Thank you
Skip how you doing
I'm doing great
How you doing Andy
Ready to go home
No I never
I never go home
I live at my house
30 days a year
I'm a road dog bitch
Thank God
Fucking go
Year
The year in review
What do you think was the best
Your favorite show of the year
Peach Fest
Peach Fest was amazing
You were crying bro
We were crying together
It was fucking beautiful man
That was an amazing thing
It was beautiful
And then I jumped
The highest off the piano
I ever have
It was fucking great
I always
It felt like three days
It was in the air
Dude
I always try
I know when you're about to
Jump off the piano
And I try to press that down button
but it doesn't go slow enough for your fucking
ADD brain.
Off the top rope.
Yeah, I think Peach Fest
was the most special.
There's a lot of good shows, but that was
fucking epic. Yeah.
You ready to play the pageant?
I'm fucking pumped.
That's like your ultimate memory as a local.
So I grew up playing music down in Del Mar at Cicero's. It's like your ultimate memory as a local. So I grew up playing music
down in Del Mar at Cicero's.
It's like the Humphreys boys.
They were playing on Friday nights
selling the place out
and I was playing to like 40 people
on Thursdays, you know?
Yeah.
And that's where I started
but I played with like Little Feet.
You played with the Humphreys
at the pageant?
I played with the Humphreys
like three times at the pageant.
And Little Feet.
Yep, Little Feet twice.
Here we are, headlining it.
JJ Gray, Mofro, here and there
on a New Year's run. Look at us. Look at us now. Now we're playing twice. Here we are. Headlining it. J.J. Gray with Mofro here and there on a New Year's run.
Look at us.
Look at us now.
Now we're playing it.
Now we're headlining that bitch.
Let's go.
It only took 15 goddamn years.
15 years and we fucking did it.
Fuck.
But we did it.
It took time.
Thanks for believing in this whole fucking weird project.
We love you.
Live for it.
Love you too. I love you. Sean Eccles eccles ladies and gentlemen thanks for being there who's next
ernie chang everything never gets on the podcast the shyest one in the band ernie chang
ernie chang how you doing what's up bro damn you're almost home almost home but i loved every
single minute of this year man it. It's been amazing, right?
Oh, dude.
I still, like, I'm still remembering the beginning of the year, man.
Like, damn, we sold out Troubadour, our hometown.
It's just like, everything that we did through the summer and just having fun.
And just now we're just sliding home and ending at the, you know, that fucking pageant in my new hometown.
I know.
This is like a hometown show for you at the pageant, like the biggest venue in the state.
It is. I think it is, besides
the arena.
You're a married man now. What's the difference
between married sex and
dating sex?
Well, for me, it gets better.
Hell yeah.
My man
He's all married
You got a dog named Kobe
Yep
Gotta love Kobe
Gotta love Kobe
Got two other cats
And then you know
A new home
Everything
This big year today
I know dude
And you're
Are you ready to go home
Get some sleep
See the girl
Yeah I am
I'm ready to go home for sure
Yeah
But you know
Even when I do go home
I still got
Stuff to do.
I got it.
I had a flooding in my house.
Oh, Jesus.
Homeowners is the worst.
Floyd has termites.
My house is burning down.
You know, just fucking just leaks everywhere.
It's like, fuck, why do we even get caught up in the American dream?
We're rock stars.
We don't need to buy houses.
We live in vans and hotel rooms.
Oh, man.
That's our investment.
And then your wife's like, no, the fuck you don't.
Your wife's like,
nah, bitch. I live
with you too, motherfucker.
I can't do without her. She's the one that runs
the ship. You took her to
the homeland. I did.
I did for the very first time how was it oh it's
fucking amazing um well did the whole nine yards did you do the whole thing when you took us there
oh yeah same thing my aunt did the whole shuttle and then uh and then like the whole family's there
dad uh nephew sister distant aunts and uncles and then uh yeah, Amy had a hell of a time. She got a
little drunk happy towards the end.
Oh, yeah. Your family likes to drink.
When they're all together, it's fucking...
It's like... How's your aunt doing?
Which one?
The one who always takes care of us.
Yeah, on Emma? Yeah, she's great. She's enjoying retirement.
She's just... She had all of us
there and just like, you know, she was a big old smile
on her face.
Oh, yeah.
Crying.
Oh, yeah.
Just having a great time.
I love it.
What was your favorite show of the year?
Oh, man.
So many choose.
Well, I mean, we hometown boys.
That Troubadour show meant a lot.
Yeah.
That was just like.
Actually, I forgot about the Troubadour when we sold out the Troubadour.
That was like the dream venue for us.
It was.
I mean, we started in LA and then next thing you know, it's like, oh, we got to do the Troubadour when we sold out the Troubadour. That was like the dream venue for us. It was. I mean, we started in LA and then next
thing you know, it's like, oh, we got to do the Troubadour.
And then now we're just like slowly climbing
up that. Now we're going to the El Rey. Let's go.
Or the Fonda. Is it the Fonda? I think it's the Fonda.
The Fonda.
We'll take a win.
Let's go.
Thanks for all your hard work this year.
I appreciate you. You're my dog.
We're in this together. You know what time it is. You keep getting better and better. You and Sean are playing your hard work this year. I appreciate you. You're my dog. We're in this together.
You know what time it is. You keep getting better and better.
You and Sean are playing your fucking asses off.
This has been the best I've ever heard you do.
You guys are good.
You were good as soloists.
Now it's like, I don't even have to point at you guys.
You guys are already fucking on a wavelength.
Go fucking pop, pop, pop.
It's like sparring.
It's like at the gym Just going pop, pop, pop
There you go
Yeah, it is
I love Sean, man
He's a hell of a fucking musician
And just listening to him
Gives me ideas too
It's just
Just listening together
That's always the best thing to do
I love it
Ernie Chang
Thank you, Ernie
Ernie Chang on the fucking building
Next up, the big dog
The big dog Get over here the big dog The big dog
Get over here big dog
Andy Avila
How the fuck you doing Andy Avila
Let's go
Oh man I fucking slept my ass off last night
Yeah you took a night off
Just no drinking
Just sleeping feels great
I did that too I went to
I watched Taylor Swift
The Taylor Swift concert
With Em
Our photographer
Cool
Taylor's cool
No hate
No hate
Nobody wants any
Taylor Swift fans
No you don't want
The Swifties going after you
We're good
We're cool with the Swift
We're cool with the Swifties
I just liked how hard she is
She's a hard fucking worker
Hey man
If you're that big
You gotta be hard working
Yeah
Exactly If you're gonna wanna make A billion to be hard working. Yeah, exactly.
If you're going to want to make a billion dollars, you're going to have to-
Start over ain't for no bitches.
Yeah, exactly.
How are you feeling?
You ready to go home?
I'm fucking ready to go home, dude.
I'm fucking ready to go home.
Yeah.
And I got gigs when I get home as well.
You got gigs?
What are you going to do?
You want to promote your gigs?
I'm playing with my band, the Avila Band, at our local watering hole.
Nothing special, just something nice and sweet.
And then I'm playing with a bunch of dudes.
They freaking hire me because I'm there,
and I take them because I fucking like making money.
Let's go, baby.
Make that money, Big Daddy.
And they're homies, so it's fun to play with them.
But the money's cool, too.
Christmas is your favorite time of year.
Christmas is my birthday.
We went to the Hipster Christmas in Nashville.
The Hipster Christmas party That was tight
That was tight
Erin Rae made me shed a tear
Erin Rae's a bad bitch
Sweet singer
Yeah
She was so fucking dope dude
All of them
Butch Walker was there too
Butch Walker
Fucking Paul McDonald
It was the hang of things
And a bunch of cool Nashville people
I don't know
But they were all fucking killer
I just saw you
I always looked
Because you love Christmas so much
I always look on the shoulder
And you're just like
I was just like vibing Smiling hanging paul's up there came back
yeah that was a good hang too that was a good hang what was your favorite show of the year um
shit man i want i mean buffalo was pretty fucking good buffalo buffalo's always good yeah i think
the pageant tonight's gonna be good this whole weekend with maggie rose. I think the pageant, tonight's going to be good. This whole weekend with Maggie Rose is going to be good.
The pageant's going to be special.
The pageant's going to be special.
I know it is.
Sean's been talking about it for weeks.
He's been talking about it for years.
Yeah.
He's stoked.
My man's been waiting for the pageant his whole goddamn life.
This is like his Madison Square Garden.
And Ernie lives there now, so it's going to be a little hometown show kind of.
Right. Right.
St. Louis is the home.
We've been playing there from the Broadway Oyster Bar and now to the pageant.
Well, make sure you get some sleep.
I'm always sleeping.
I want you to make love with Elise.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God.
You guys are going to make so much love.
Christmas love.
Christmas love.
I want eggnog all over the bedroom.
Oh, I got my tree set up, dog.
I got my dogs there with bows on them and shit.
I want you to be pouring eggnog everywhere in that house. Oh, yeah. Eggnog helps, dog. I got my dogs there with bows on them and shit. I want you to be pouring air nog everywhere in that house.
Oh, yeah.
Eggnog helps with the...
You got a turtleneck?
You got a Tony Soprano turtleneck for Christmas?
Ooh, I should get one.
Hell no, I'm too hot, dog.
Fuck that.
I'm sweating right now.
Shit.
Yeah, I hear that.
I hear that.
Well, Beats, thanks for being here.
Thanks for working so hard.
Hell yeah.
You're the shit.
I'm going to go watch my show.
Yeah, go watch your show.
What are you watching?
Boardwalk Empire, because I like that mafia shit.
You do love that mafia shit.
All right.
Big dog.
Big dog.
The big dog.
Last but not least, he's here.
Oh, Skippy, come on.
Get in here.
What's up, Skip?
What are we doing?
This is the season finale.
Season finale.
I'd like to thank a few people. finale. I'd like to thank a few people.
Okay.
I'd like to thank Andy.
I'd like to thank my ex for cheating on me.
Yeah.
Fucking tour for the last year and meet this beautiful man right here.
You know, I think everything happens for a reason.
If she didn't cheat on you, we wouldn't have been close.
We wouldn't.
And I love her.
She's still one of my best friends.
That's right.
I can't do more. I'll tell you when.
I'd like to thank the cute bartender that just poured
me a double IPA across the street
while I got my burger. I love it.
I'd like to thank you again. I love you, Skip.
Thanks for fucking selling merch. Thanks for being
in the holiday cheer. Thanks for always
staying optimistic when we are
fucking pieces of shit during the morning.
You always walk up out of the hotel like,
what's up, y'all? How we doing?
Shut up, Skippy.
That's called a hangover.
Well, we love you.
I love you, too.
Shout out to Daladin gummies.
The best gummies in the planet.
Shout out. Why?
Because they are homologized.
They're from homogenized.
Thank you, Sean.
It's a homogenous mixture,
which means that it's the same throughout.
Yes.
Even though I was a straight-A student in chemistry,
I thought it was homogeneous.
Homogeneous.
Which, that's what I call my dad these days.
I love you.
Well, we love you.
And shout out to volume.com.
You guys have been sponsoring us all year
for the last couple years now. Good people. We can't do this without you, and you're just making our to volume.com. You guys have been sponsoring us all year for the last couple years now.
We can't do this without you
and you're just making our lives so much easier.
So if any of my friends,
any of my fans, friends, that's
kind of like what we are. We're friends.
My fans are friends.
Let's go. But
seriously, if you
know me and you love what I do,
go support those guys.
Volume.com, Dialed In Gummies, they're the best in the business,
and they've supported us for so long.
Let's go and support them.
Here's to them.
Here's to them, too.
Here's to you.
And happy fucking kiss.
Thank you.
He can always get it.
You got to kiss your bros.
Sometimes, you know, when they're making that merch money,
you got to kiss your bros.
Let's go.
ATM right here.
Let's go.
Great money. Let's go. Cheers right here. Let's go, ATM.
Great money.
Let's go.
Cheers.
Happy holidays.
We'll buy a t-shirt.
All right.
I'll see you soon.
Wow.
Amazing.
Em, get over here, too.
We're going to get the whole fucking family.
And last but not least, I know he has his headphones on with nothing, no music blaring.
So we'll definitely...
No, you can't hide from this, motherfucker.
And it's been 48 hours, so I get my touches, okay?
And let the world know it's been 48 hours.
And we'll talk about that in a second.
Em!
What up?
We got Em, our photographer, our lady.
We had girls night last night.
We did.
That was fucking amazing.
It was so needed.
We ordered Chinese food at 4 a.m.
Champagne.
We got Hampton Inn food At 4am Champagne We got
Hampton Inn champagne
And
And the arrows
And we watched Taylor Swift
That was the first ever
Taylor Swift concert
I've ever seen
I have been
Watching so much
Lore
And like
Mysteries
And clues
And people
With theories
And so I feel like
I know so much
About her
I could probably name
All the albums in order
but have I
seen a show? No.
Have I listened to an entire song
last night? Amen.
I loved seeing how hard she worked
and it was just nice to
take a day off from
being a degenerate alcoholic and
have one with the boys.
Or have one with the girl.
It's so great to have estrogen in this fucking... It's been so nice to provide it. Being a degenerate alcoholic and, you know, have one with the boys. Or have one with the girl. You know?
You know?
It's so great to have estrogen in this fucking.
It's been so nice to provide it.
It's been so fun.
Well, Em, this is just the beginning.
Yeah.
You're part of the family now.
Get used to these crazy motherfuckers.
Speaking of merch.
Speaking of merch.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Em made the calendar, y'all.
All her photos.
That was a beautiful calendar.
Thank you.
It's a gorgeous calendar. It's a team effort.. That was a beautiful calendar. Thank you. It's a gorgeous calendar.
Team effort. We love it.
Thank you for putting up with our
drunk asses. I really appreciate it.
And yeah, thanks for being on the show.
We all build each other up.
And Wallace, ladies and gentlemen. Let's fucking go.
Last but not least,
Boy Toy himself.
Boy Toy himself.
He has to put his fucking headphones on with no volume so no one bothers him.
But I know your fucking tricks now.
Where you at?
The alarm just went off, by the way.
You can touch him.
I can touch him.
Why do you have a knife in your fucking hands?
It's just protection.
This is a penitentiary out here.
It's been 48 hours.
You can't hide feelings.
You can't hide feelings
for that long.
You know,
I gave you time.
You're like,
don't touch me for 48 hours.
It was actually pretty easy.
No, it wasn't.
We had to keep resetting
the clock because you kept
retouching.
I didn't know we were
going to follow the rules
like that.
I didn't know.
I thought like,
hey, this is a joke.
Love is love.
You know? But you really took it seriously
so I took it seriously too.
The clock is off.
And it's time for that butt to be mine again.
Back to prison.
It's like
the gym time
is over. We're going back to our cell.
And we're going to fuck in front of the guards.
Come after me.
Come after me with the knife.
Floyd, are you ready to get the fuck out of this
van? Oh, hell yeah.
No, I'm excited for the last bit of these
shows. These are big.
We're not doing this for us. We're doing this for Sean fucking
Eccles. We're doing it for Sean.
We're doing it for fucking Sean, dude.
The pageant. Hometown show.
We're going for it.
This knife is scaring the shit out of me.
Get this fucking knife.
I feel like you are legit Danny Zuko in fucking Greece now.
Yeah, especially after the Danny Zuko comment.
Oh, you didn't like that, huh?
No, it's all right.
You don't like Greece?
It's not hip enough for you?
What's the song on there?
Grease Lightning.
Yeah, besides that.
That one, yeah.
You're nards.
Tell me more.
Tell me more.
Floyd, what was your favorite show of the year, if you remember any?
Do you even care?
Let's see.
Do you even fucking care?
Do you even fucking care about this band?
What show do you like?
The show I worked on for...
Oh, yeah.
I Heart the 90s.
Yeah.
National Geographic. His favorite show was I Heart the 90s. Yeah, yeah.
National Geographic.
His favorite show was I Heart the 90s.
Yeah, yeah.
He wrote the music for...
Hey, guys, quick plug.
Go watch I Heart the 90s.
Floyd wrote all the music.
No, it's called Rewind the 90s.
Oh, because I Heart the 90s is already there.
That was...
Yeah, this is like a different documentary.
Oh, so you played on the rip-off show.
You don't have to repeat that.
How many...
I'm sure there's a lot.
Anyway,
next topic.
Peach Fest.
Peach Fest was great.
That was good.
God, it's a blur.
There was something else.
You don't remember anything.
You don't fucking like this band.
Oh, Summer Camp.
You don't like this fucking band.
Do you call it Summer Camp? You don't fucking care this band. Oh, Summer Camp. You don't like this fucking band. Is that what you call it?
Do you call it Summer Camp? You don't fucking care.
I forget. Anyway. Whatever.
Thanks, Floyd. It was the one with Mastodon on it.
Yeah, okay. And I sprained my ankle in the mosh pit. I did see you jump over the VIP
to get into the pit. Yeah.
It was like a dusty mosh pit.
It was amazing. Mastodon was a good one.
Yeah. You don't like shit like that. Whatever.
I like watching your dumbass jump in the pit and just like go at a fucking jam festival
where everyone's like, ah, this is a pit.
It was a very polite mosh pit.
Yeah.
It felt like, you know, socialism, a socialist fucking mosh pit, dude.
Like everyone's like, hey guys, there's some tea and there's some VIP.
That's not how you act here.
There's a VIP cookie he brewed by the laser board.
Well, thanks for being on the show.
Yeah, I got my best friend here to bail me out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mr. Tech guy over here.
He's like, yeah, I could deal with all the guitar techs.
And he calls his best friend who's actually a guitar tech.
Well, yeah.
He's a guitarist.
His dad's electrician.
And he's a surgeon.
You're a surgeon?
See, this is why I know Floyd's rich.
He hangs out with surgeons.
He's got to fuck it.
He lives in Nantucket.
Surgeons don't hang out with poor people, okay?
All right, later, Floyd.
Thank you so much for being on the show.
Have a good day, you fucking rich motherfucker.
You too.
Take the knife away.
Get the knife away from me.
Get out of here.
All right, guys. It's been a great year. All right, guys. I want. Take the knife away. Get the knife away from me. Get out of here. All right, guys.
It's been a great year.
All right, guys.
I want to all sing a song.
Let's do a song together.
We're all going to sing the national anthem before Mark Norman and Giannis Pappas.
Fucking, this is the funniest episode of the year.
I saved it for the year.
But, boys, we're going to do, Should we do... What song should we do?
Oh, no.
Floyd, you're going to start the national anthem.
We're all going to sing it together.
Sit down.
Everybody get low.
Take a knee, boys.
This is for you, World Saving Podcast fans.
We're coming home.
And after this episode, I'm taking a week...
Oh, no, we're doing the award ceremony with Nick.
Taking a week off. And then we're back for season taking a week. Oh, no, we're doing the award ceremony with Nick. Taking a week off.
And then we're back for season six, baby.
Take it home, Floyd.
For the land of the pea.
Pea-ca-ca.
Pea-pea-ca.
Have a good day.
We'll see you next week.
Enjoy Mark Diamond.
Enjoy Giannis Pappas.
Let's get the fuck out of here.
We're done with this tour.
Five seconds.
Really?
Yeah.
Why?
Because it's better.
Is it?
It's better.
You're making music.
You make people feel good.
I make people go, oh, ah, don't say that.
I didn't want to think about that.
I heard that before. You guys play one they heard. They're like, ah. That's true, actually. ah, don't say that. I didn't want to think about that. I heard that before.
You guys play one they heard, they're like, ah.
That's true, actually.
Fuck, I want we know.
It's got to be less lonely, too, being in a band than doing stand-up by yourself, too, right?
That's another reason, yeah.
You want to blow your brains out in a hotel room.
No, musicians do that, too, actually.
They do, but you guys do it with, like, a lot of drugs.
We do it just sitting there Dicking our hand
Jerked off for the tenth time
Yeah that's how
Bible opened
I was talking to Felipe
About that like
You gotta be bored of porn
Dude yeah
That's why you gotta
Kick it up a notch
You gotta see what
The chicks with dicks are doing
You gotta go check out
What the grannies are up to
You gotta keep
You gotta keep up in it man
You gotta up
See how gay you are
Yeah you gotta
Take a peek.
The only one way to find out.
Yeah, black guys without their shirts on, whatever it takes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's the thing.
When I got on this boat, I was like, oh, yeah, they don't really party as hard as musicians,
but when they go, they fucking go.
All these guys we've been hanging out with, they're going.
Mark Norman, I didn't know that man could drink.
He was hammered. Yeah, I didn't know that man could drink. He was hammered.
Yeah.
I didn't know he was an alcoholic either.
He has a real problem.
I've known him for like 15 years.
I'm like, oh, okay.
You've got a drinking problem.
Yeah, yeah.
I haven't spent four days with him.
He woke up and was like, hey.
It's like chill child.
I'm so fucking hungover.
I'm going to fix it with a beer.
Come here. Yeah. Your blood I'm fixing it with a beer. Come here.
Your blood itches.
That's a problem.
What people don't see is backstage,
he always has his opener just wind up.
You got to turn him on the back
and then, hey, he comes up.
You ever get into like Coke
or anything when you were a kid?
No, no Coke.
The only thing I did was mushrooms once
and I didn't have a great trip. What happened?
I was just walking around
going, where's the script?
The script? Yeah.
It's like NFL.
Where's the script?
People were like, what? And I was like, you guys,
I just felt like everyone was in a play or something.
How old were you when you took
mushrooms? High school.
Really?
Yeah.
And then I smoked a lot of weed.
I don't do good on weed, though.
I get paranoid.
I think too much as it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What do you overthink mostly?
About life, death, the big picture, what's the point.
We have similar thoughts at night. I'm a little obsessive
Yeah
Yeah right now
It's like alright
When's the big bang coming
Yeah exactly
I've just been sitting
In the hotel room
Watching BBC
Like when's China gonna
When's China gonna go
Everyone's distracted
Taiwan
One China motherfuckers
Yeah one China
I keep thinking like
Yeah with all these wars
Happening now
Like one of the aliens
Is going to say
You guys are fucking idiots
You know like
We're all
Yeah
Like yeah
It'd be funny
Why not right now
Right
Like why
What are they
What are they fucking
Waiting for right before
Bruce
Like fuck it
Like when are they going to
Yeah
This should be a good time.
Right here on this cruise.
It would be great.
Just a big old tidal wave with all the homies.
Just watch Bert go, whoa.
I did that.
Is your party?
No, no.
You guys are going to die because of you and your fans
are not paying attention.
Everyone's drunk and fat.
Comfortable.
It's your fault.
Yeah. They're going to. He's going to. I'll give him a beer. He's like, we're aliens. We can. It's your fault. Yeah.
They're going to,
he's going to give him a beer.
He's like,
we're aliens.
We can't drink beer.
Yeah.
We don't melt.
We are having the pizza,
the buffet though.
We're all in heaven.
It's like,
we blame it on bird for saying the machine story the hundredth time.
That would actually be a great sequel.
Like if aliens came to bird and he's like,
this is Leanne. They're like, And he's like, it's Leanne
They're like, we don't give a fuck about Leanne
His movie's the biggest movie on their planet right now
I want to know about your family, man
Your mom and dad are from Greece?
Yeah, my mother was born there
And my dad was born in Brooklyn
I grew up in Brooklyn
And yeah, I just recently found out in therapy that I was
raised by two traumatized
war veterans.
My mother grew up, they had
me when they were older. My mother grew up under Nazi
occupation for four years in Greece.
And I just never really thought
about what that could do to a little girl.
She told the story of Nazi soldiers
coming in her house and the Nazis
used to march through the
mountains they would take like a girl
from the village and put her on a truck
so the guerrillas wouldn't fire
so they came looking for her sister
and her sister went and headed in the mountains, my aunt
and they pulled like, my mother tells the story
like they pulled the blanket
back and they saw my mother
and according to my mother they were like
oh she's too little or whatever.
Who knows? Maybe she was fucking gang raped
and she blocked it out.
What the fuck?
They tend to do that in occupation.
My dad was in the Korean War.
He had PTSD.
He spent time in a hospital.
I remember one time a tire popped
and he fucking hit the ground.
I was a little kid. I was like, what's going on?
There was nobody there. Do you like, what's going on? That was a gunshot.
There's nobody there.
Do you think being neurotic is genetic?
I think it's, I think it probably, partly.
I mean, I'm no, I'm no like a neuroscientist or whatever, but neurology, whatever, whoever
handles that.
I'm not a drummer.
I don't know if that's their field.
Yeah.
But it's definitely, I think it's definitely picked up in the energy,
if not genetic, not even words.
It's just like you just can transfer it from someone's energy.
You know when you're around someone, you feel calm,
and then you're around somebody else, you feel anxious?
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, my parents were not, you know.
Who made you feel anxious when you were a kid?
My mom.
Yeah?
Why?
My mom, Brooklyn, made me feel anxious.
It was a terrible time.
Brooklyn in the 80s?
Brooklyn in the 80s and early 90s was not great.
Girls made me feel anxious.
Were you getting pussy when you were a kid?
Pussy.
I was a popular kid.
Yeah, nice.
Athlete, basketball.
But I was a relationship guy because I'm not like, I'm not the, hey, don't finger me.
I'm not that guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm like, hey, come watch Dangerous Liaisons.
Yeah, it's got to be wild.
Because I was like, I was a sex addict when I grew up in LA, kind of big city too.
And I didn't really get into drugs, but I got into sex.
That's a good one to have.
That's a good drug.
Yeah, that's a good one to have.
I don't know.
I got in trouble with it because, you know, I fucked my teacher and stuff.
You can't OD on what I was in high school.
Dude, I didn't know I was in the boat with my fucking hero.
Let's fucking go.
Fuck yeah.
I liked older women when I was a kid.
Yeah. How old? What are we talking?
17. And I know how old was she?
I mean 18. She was 18?
I gotta say 18 because I don't
want people to get in trouble.
Nobody cares.
They only care if you're the girl.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
She just get away with shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What about...
Didn't...
What's his...
God, I'm hungover, but the dude that married his cousin who was like 15.
Jerry Lee Lewis.
Jerry Lee Lewis married his...
He's in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Yeah.
Muhammad married a six-year-old.
He was a rock and roll guy, right?
You can't even draw him anymore. He was front man he was a star i think he started dating her when she
was six yeah why do you think comedians wait i want to hear more about you your teacher
yeah i don't want to talk about comedy with you a spanish team she was an english teacher
english teacher how did it happen um
yeah She was an English teacher. English teacher. Heidi Crocker. I was just... Were you like, wow!
Yeah, I was... And she was like...
We used to have sex in school.
Yeah.
In her office.
And then she'd take me to Mexican restaurants, and she'd have a pitcher of beer waiting for me.
Oh, yeah.
And she's like, just show up 20 minutes late.
Keep going.
Wow. This is a category on Pornhub. She's like, just show up 20 minutes late. Keep going.
This is a category on Pornhub.
Do you get fucking laid like that?
Not as much as that.
You're lying. He never got laid.
Yes, I did.
I thought he was talking about Ernie.
Oh, no. He's talking about me. I get pussy.
He's got a big cock.
Here's the thing about saxophone, though,
compared to being a lead singer,
you're not cool when you play saxophone
until you're like 24, 25.
You're still a band kid in high school, kind of.
Even in college, you're still kind of a dork.
Once you get in the bar,
start playing the blues a little bit,
start playing with older black guys,
you look cooler.
Yeah.
Then the pussy starts coming.
Yeah.
And then you get a girlfriend that's out of your league
and you stop getting laid.
Yeah, okay.
That's just my personal experience.
Different types of chicks.
You get the hot, like, show me your
tits girls and you get the
finger-sniffing girls.
Exactly.
I just read Dostoevsky.
My girlfriend does read a lot.
I took piano lessons when I was 20.
But I used to have a fetish with pregnant chicks.
I used to have sex with pregnant girls, too.
I like that, too.
I love it.
You see why I want to be a musician now, dude?
You guys, I mean, I really would, if there's one thing I could trade being a comedian for,
it would be a musician.
What would you play?
A guitar.
A guitar frontman.
Yeah.
You're a guitarist.
It was killing it.
Shane.
Yeah.
And you guys all got that vibe, man.
Just that fucking cool vibe.
You just walk around.
You were dancing out there.
I'm like nervous to dance.
You were out there.
You were out there in your Jesus sandals fucking rocking out.
My Moses 11s, dude.
Commanding people to stand up and sit down.
And you're deceptive, too, because you look like,
you know,
like I grew up with you
and we went to Bethlehem camp together.
I went to Jewish camp.
I look like I went to your bar mitzvah
and then you go up there
and you're like,
this dude fucking is the coolest Jewish looking guy
I've ever seen.
Well, I think about you too.
Like, God damn,
you got swag to you too.
You just roll in there.
You're everyone's favorite comedian.
Thank you.
It's fucking legendary.
Do you feel like growing up in New York helped you mature quicker to start becoming a little more intelligent than the people in the Midwest?
I think so.
Yeah, I think so.
Also, my parents.
I mean, my parents were lawyers, and my mom was a human rights lawyer. And like, yeah. So they were like, yeah, they were more about like the education.
And, um, you know, they had, my dad had a private practice.
Like he did pretty well.
He wasn't like rich or anything.
Which side of human rights was she a lawyer for?
The good side?
Yeah.
Nowadays.
Yeah.
Um, yeah, she was, uh, For children was her thing
So she worked for the United Nations
For a little while
And she like authored a seminal piece
On the
Like the international rights of children
For this ad hoc
United Nations program called UNITAR
And so it's like a
You know you can Google it
And it's like one of those seminal pieces
Nobody listens to international human rights though
It doesn't
The United Nations is like a Referee in a WWE wrestling match Yeah one of those seminal pieces. Nobody listens to international human rights, though. It doesn't.
The United Nations is like a referee in a WWE wrestling match.
Yeah.
They're just kind of there wagging their finger
and America's like,
fuck you.
Everyone's like,
shut up.
Everyone's like,
they get an errant chair to the face.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're just there.
What about like going,
what's going on now?
Like how does like,
how does she deal with like the politics
going on in the Middle East?
I don't know.
I got,
she's dead.
But she made it to 90.
It's not tragic. I should start with that.
She made it to 90
to save everyone going, I'm sorry.
She made it the full way.
I don't know how to say this in an appropriate way,
but you said your mom gave you so much
anxiety when she was a kid.
Was it a relief that she died?
Yeah. It was in a relief that she died? Yeah.
It was in a lot of ways.
Yeah.
I had a complicated relationship with her.
She also had Alzheimer's for a long time,
which was a brutal process.
It really kind of affected my entire life.
Really?
Yeah.
I like stuck around for it,
helped her out.
It affected comedy,
affected everything.
It affected,
but yeah, you get wisdom from it, but it was tough. It was out. It affected comedy, affected everything. Yeah, you get
wisdom from it, but it was tough. It was dark.
Alzheimer's is like a long,
slow... Yeah, my grandma died of that.
It's brutal. It is. Only people
who've been through it kind of know. It's sad.
It's torturous. The weirdest thing is
there are parts of it that are also hilarious, too.
Very funny. Especially the
middle phase of it, before they really go off.
It's kind of weird
Yeah
They
My mother was fine
She was like happy
She didn't know what was going on
Imagine like you don't know
What's going on
Right
It's pretty chill
But for everybody else
Who had to deal with it
It sucks yeah
Yeah
And especially when they start
Forgetting like
That you're
They're son
She's like
She used to say
Are you a relative
She had no idea
Wow
Yeah
And I would get fun with it
I'd be like No I'm Batman And I'm here to rescue you out of this place.
I know the elevator code.
You got to press the code on that floor.
Yeah.
It looks like your husband.
Memory care floor because at the end she was in a facility.
Oh, right, right, right.
Yeah, and you got to press the code.
There's always one woman there who's fucking trying to get out.
Right.
So you start pressing the elevator code.
You just slowly start walking.
Like, freedom, freedom.
And then a couple of Jamaican nurses just come and redirect her over there.
Like a train set.
Yeah.
Was your dad, you guys mom and dad together?
No, they broke up.
Yeah, they broke up.
When did they break up?
When I was in high school.
Oh, really?
Yeah, they didn't make it the whole way.
How'd you deal with divorce?
I dealt with pretty, you know, they never were like in love.
So, you know, that was the generation.
It's like, hey, you're Greek, I'm Greek, let's get married.
You know, they met in law school.
My dad was, just got out of the Korean War.
My mother was one of two women
in her law school, Brooklyn Law School.
So I think they got married because they were Greek.
And that was what people did.
They used to inbreed more.
It's true.
We Greeks gotta stick together.
We need more Greeks.
Dude, you should get some fresh jeans in there
before your kid is born
like with one eyebrow
just fucking straight across.
Need kiwi lemonade,
lemonade, you know,
they gotta have
different kinds of lemonade.
Yeah.
So they were never
like in love.
So them breaking up
was like, made sense.
It was a little,
they fought.
Was it hard for you
to find love
because you never
believed in it
because you saw your parents
never fucking loving each other?
Yeah, I think so.
I think, and also just like the unhealthy girls are the funner ones.
You know that.
Yeah, yeah.
They're way better.
Pregnant chicks in my car.
English teachers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fucking hot girl comes up to you like, no, no, no, no.
I'm looking for an older pregnant lady.
I'm looking for the damage.
Give me some cracked windows.
The Baltimore version of mentally unstable.
Yeah, they're just funner.
And they just, like the Catholic repression or something like that is almost worth it for the freaks that they create.
You know what I mean?
The Catholic church is fucked up.
But like Catholic girls, the way they would hike up there, you know, it's like almost worth it.
Like repression is almost worth it for what it creates.
Right.
And so, yeah, I mean, I pursued a lot of unhealthy women, people,
but the sex was like heroin.
So it was great.
Healthy women are like asparagus.
You're like, all right, it's good for me.
They all get married when they're 23 anyways.
Yeah.
My wife is great.
I love her how long
you been with her she's not like asparagus yeah she's asparagus with garlic and butter all right
well you gotta you know your heart you're getting older you gotta keep your heart inside
this side of pasta yeah two kids yeah two fresh fresh kids what's it like being a dad
it changes everything like do you have kids or anything not that i know of
It changes everything.
Do you have kids or anything?
Not that I know of.
You got to comb the local high school,
see which one is fucking... English teacher's got a butt in the oven.
You got an afro and you like to dance on a piano?
Any pregnant teachers here?
Because possibly, check the tourist schedule.
Right.
It's wild.
What's your relationship?
Son and daughter Two daughters
I got two daughters
Holy shit
Yeah
And she
My oldest daughter's three
And my youngest daughter
Is four months
About to be five months
Oh wow
Just ran
And it's
It changes things
It definitely
It's been a transition
It's been weird
My parents were
I had like a
Not a great childhood
For a lot of reasons But One of them was My parents were just never had like a, not a great childhood for a lot of reasons, but
one of them was my parents were just never
around. And so I want to be around for
my daughters. So this career is kind
of, they're kind of
opposites. So it's an adjustment.
That is an adjustment. I used to love to go on the
road and be away. It was like
an escape, especially when my mom had
Alzheimer's. It was like nobody could reach me and I
just didn't have the guilt or anything of like, oh, maybe I should check or especially when she mom had Alzheimer's. It was like nobody could reach me, and I just didn't have the guilt or anything of like,
oh, maybe I should check,
especially when she was living on her own.
But now with kids, I want to be home.
So I'll go through those moments being like,
oh, I should quit.
And I'm like, what?
It's 20 years.
To do what?
And I'm like, I just want to be home
and take my daughter to soccer and stuff like that.
Do you think it's better that you had kids later in your
life versus younger? I think better later,
but then when you have them later, you
start thinking about how you're going to be
here for less time.
I think that's more of a worry when they're younger
and they want to be around you.
I think once they turn 13, they're like,
fuck you, dad, get out of here. I'll be like, oh, yeah,
I'm going to be leaving soon. I'm going to die.
Yeah, I'm out of here.
Yeah, I have five more of them, you here. I'm like, oh yeah, I'm going to be leaving soon. I'm going to die. Yeah, I'm out of here.
Yeah, I got five more, you know.
I'm 76.
You're 12.
I got my return ticket.
Waiting for boarding.
Do you feel like you're changing how you are being a father versus how you were raised?
Like you saw the bad things that your parents raised you as?
Yeah.
What are the differences?
It's a challenge too because when I had kids, my childhood just came back.
Like I was staring at my daughter and I got sad and I just had to go to therapy and be like, what is going on?
And yeah, it's just kind of mourning what I didn't have.
What were making you sad?
It was the memories of me as a kid And like
You know what my parents didn't do
Or did do or whatever it was
And so
Yeah now when I
Do things for my daughter
There's a little sadness attached to it
Because I'm like oh I didn't get that
So
Yeah I think
I think you either go two ways
If you don't have like
Parents who are good at it
You either like
Get worse And like leave go two ways if you don't have like parents who are good at it. You either like get
worse and like leave
or you go the opposite direction
and you become like an annoying dad.
I'm an annoying dad.
I'm like in bed with my...
Dude, I'm not a helicopter.
I'm a pilot.
I'm like in bed with her, sleeping,
reading to her, waking up, tell her I love her all day.
I'm mauling her. She's like, get off of me. I'm giving in bed with her, sleeping, reading to her, waking up, tell her I love her all day. I'm mauling her. She's like, get off me.
Yeah.
I'm giving her affection.
It's just, yeah.
I'm like, kick it enough.
Yeah.
It's pretty fascinating because like, yeah, I was, my parents had me like eight years after they had the other kids.
So they're kind of getting older, kind of getting over raising kids.
Right.
So like you had kids your first time older.
How old are you now?
47.
47.
So it's kind of the opposite It's like oh shit now I'm not as selfish as I was
You know being on the road all the time
Has it changed your outlook
On like taking as many gigs
And like not taking the bullshit
Doing real shit
Oh my god
There he is
The man of the hour.
It makes corporate gigs a lot more...
You want to get in here? Come here, Mark.
Daylight coming, I want to go.
Mark,
motherfucker.
Hey, everybody.
Mark Norman.
Get in the middle.
Nick, come over here.
On drums, Mark Norman.
On sax.
We're starting a band, Mark.
We're starting.
But this room, what are we, in a game of Clue?
Look at this thing.
It's like a whodunit in here.
I'm sitting under Czar Nicholas who got killed by communists.
Yeah, it's Tony Hinchcliffe and...
If there's an opposite of a Burt Cruz, it's the history in this room.
Who are all these fucking people, man?
Where are we, dude?
This is like Knives Out in here.
We're talking about having sex with our teachers and pregnant women.
Have you ever done anything?
I had sex with my teacher in film.
I went to film school and had sex with my teacher.
Really?
I'm a survivor.
Position of power, the whole thing.
And I loved every minute of it.
Did you comment her?
I think I got it right on the old face.
Right on the putum.
When you're that young, a little bit gets in.
Right.
A little bit gets in.
True, true.
We're talking about childhood trauma.
Oh, wow.
Well, he was raised, he was way ahead of the curve on trans
issues. He was raised by a trans
woman. Double minority.
Black trans woman. Wasn't even really trans.
Just kind of cross-dressing.
Just a guy named Gary with a wig on.
You had more violence than me.
I had more molesting. Yeah. But you had more violence than me. I had more molesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're broken toys.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we're not.
Where are you from, Mark?
New Orleans.
New Orleans.
Oh, shit.
So did you get into alcoholism early in your life?
Sure, sure.
We got into everything.
Like what was the hardest thing you've done?
Well, it was pre-internet, so you had all the time in the world to drink, try drugs, kill animals, whatever it was.
You had to make shit happen, a lot of fireworks and stuff.
Did you guys jerk off with friends?
Yeah, I did, actually, once.
Yeah, that was a big one.
We got into that one, though.
Oh, I'll put in 1406 if you want to come by.
That was a big one.
I haven't got into that one, though.
Oh, I'll bet 1406 if you want to come by.
I think that crosses state lines.
I think all guys did that.
I used to jerk off with friends.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
In the dark.
I used to jerk off with friends.
How do you think you got on the boat?
What do you think the difference is growing up in New Orleans versus growing up in New York?
I feel like there's a lot of similarities because you kind of grow up faster. You see so much.
It's a high stimulation type of thing.
New Orleans is like
New Orleans has got
the crime, the poverty,
the racial stuff, the weird
French thing in there.
It's got ghosts, an old building.
New Orleans is like it's a whole other level. I think got like ghosts, an old building. Like New Orleans is like,
it's a whole nother level of like weird.
I think it's sadder than New York.
New York is like a real city,
booming, you know,
cultures colliding.
But New Orleans is a party town.
It's like Vegas with good food.
You know?
So when there's not the party,
it's real sad.
And it's so hot and muggy.
Oh, it's muggy maybe. It makes it even sadder. Yeah, there's just the party, it's real sad. And it's so hot and muggy. Oh, it's muggy, baby.
It makes it even sadder.
Yeah, there's just this specter, the fear of just the levee breaking all the time.
Yeah.
You're just technically underwater, yeah.
That's true.
Below sea level.
It's got to be fucked up.
You know, it's like we do Jazz Fest every year.
And we're like, we're obsessed with it.
And we play and we do like Festival International and the Crawley Rice Fest.
And like you see these musicians who are just who are born to be musicians.
I grew up in L.A. where everyone wanted to be an actor or a comedian where you didn't see the difference of the culture.
New York, too, was like was a bunch of musicians in New York as well.
What how did you not become a musician with all these fucking amazing fucking musicians?
No rhythm.
It wasn't for me.
No rhythm. It wasn't for me.
No talent.
I mean, I could see black kids doing jazz on the street, and I went to a couple jazz clubs in New York, and I was like, this is the same shit.
Those kids, I mean, they're talented.
It's insane.
It's all these stolen instruments.
It's impressive.
Oh, my God.
I mean, they do the bottle caps on the bottom of the shoes and make a fortune out there.
The whole city is just based on the arts.
Yeah.
I mean, in D.C., where I went to college, that's where go-go music was born.
They just did that on buckets.
Right.
Black dudes would be with ba-dum-dum-da-dum, and they just buckets.
It's just fucking buckets and garbage cans.
Yeah.
L.A., like, we're not going to play music until someone pays us for it from a movie.
It's like, fuck these people, dude.
I had to get out of that rat race you know it's like this pop culture everyone
wanted to get signed to a record deal no one was doing it for the music they just wanted to be
popular it's like i go to towns like new york or new orleans and people just do there because
that's part of the the culture of the cities that.A. has a phoniness to it because everyone just moves there.
There's no culture in L.A.
The culture is phony.
It's celebrity.
It's like, hey, what are you driving?
Is that your agent?
Who's your dad?
It's a stark contrast.
New York and L.A.
are really kind of polar opposites.
It's funny.
It's a one-industry town, L.A., right?
So it's like all entertainment.
Right. Whereas New York is...
I guess it's... There's so many industries, but it's about money more.
It's about commerce and stuff.
So celebrity doesn't have that same, you know, you could be at a restaurant, like Leo walks in,
people are like, oh, that's Leo.
But then there's some, you know, hedge fund guy who's got 16 billion sitting next door.
Right, exactly.
Who Leo's going over to his table.
Right.
I saw Alec Baldwin on the street
last week in New York,
and I almost went up to him,
but he was holding a gun.
No, I'm just kidding.
But yeah, you're just like,
oh, there's Alec Baldwin.
You have that first moment
where you're like,
holy shit, Alec Baldwin,
but then you're like,
ah, it's New York,
and you keep moving.
You remember when the Liver King
came to New York?
Yeah.
I hate that guy.
The Liver King dressed like a Viking or whatever.
Yeah.
Whatever he does, and he's going through New York.
He was doing content, and just the shit black people were screaming at him.
Oh, my God.
What's up, He-Man?
What you doing, He-Man?
I see you, He-Man.
He-Man.
Stop trying to convince people
to live eating like a caveman
when people live to 16
is good for you
exactly
also the naked cowboy
was like hey
hit the brick
this is my corner
I'm the shirtless bum guy
I'm the fucking
naked white guy here
by the way
I went down
I was trying to get content
there was a Trump rally
in lower Manhattan
naked cowboy
proudly just humming along
MAGA hat, full boner,
all in. It's great now too
because he's getting older, so he's fucking
sagging. He's starting to just look like
a German dad mosquito
on a Greek beach. He's been out there since
the 90s, I feel like. Oh, yeah. Oh, he was big.
Yeah, yeah. How long have you lived in New York for,
Mark? I moved there in
2007 and got mugged three times the first year. What happened? Yeah, well. How long have you lived in New York for, Mark? I moved there in 2007 and got mugged three times the first year.
What happened?
Yeah, well.
He was white.
I lived in Crown Heights.
That's what happened.
Yeah.
And, you know, Crown Heights is a historic black and Jewish neighborhood divided right down the middle by kind of a highway or a boulevard.
Eastern Parkway.
Yeah, that's it.
And I lived on the black side. And all these black guys would be like, you're on the wrong side, motherfucker. down the middle by a kind of a highway or a boulevard eastern parkway yeah that's it and i
lived on the black side and they all these black guys be like you're on the wrong side motherfucker
and i was like i'm not jewish and they were like well we still don't care but then jews would i'd
come home drunk and jews would pull up next to me in a minivan going what are you doing get in and
i'm like i'm not jewish and they would slide that door and right on out of there what's the difference
between living in New York
in 06 versus the 90s
when you were living there?
It was dicey.
Was it?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean,
he can speak to the 80s and 90s,
but 06 even was different.
It was still dicey over there.
It depended where you were,
but it got less and less
and less and less.
But the 80s and 90s were,
it was a nightmare.
It was horrific.
Yeah.
It was just,
everyone got mugged. Like pre-Giuliani. Huh? Pre-Giuliani. Pre-Giuliani. It was just, everyone got mugged.
Like pre-Giuliani?
Dickens gets a bad rap.
He was the mayor before.
He's the one that started
increasing the police and upping the budget.
But we had major race riots
under Dickens that just sort of
kind of
soiled his
tenure.
But that era was just racial tension.
We had massive national racial riots,
like the Crown Heights riots.
Yusef Hawkins was like a black dude
who got chased out of Bensonhurst,
and they chased him in the highway,
and he got hit by a car.
Whoa.
And Tawana Brawley,
who made up that whole story about a cop raping her or whatever.
Whoa.
Yeah, Bernard Gadds, who shot the black dudes.
So it was like these incidents were just constant.
And it was just like crime was everywhere.
You couldn't avoid it.
And there was packs of kids everywhere just jumping people.
It was a terrible time.
Well, it's funny, too, because New York, everybody's like,
man, it's not what it used to be.
The city used to have edge.
It had bite.
And then one lady gets mugged and she's like,
fuck this city.
You're like,
I thought you wanted bite, bitch.
Yeah, yeah.
You got bit.
Yeah.
How are the drugs
in the 90s versus 06?
They were safer, man.
Were they?
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know about 06, but
yeah, nobody was
dying from drugs. Also in New York,
nobody did hard drugs.
Like, you know. Just blow.
Yeah, I don't think, just blow or
weed or if you were a heroin addict,
then that was like
you were in music or whatever.
Nobody goes through a heroin phase in college.
It's like, I'm in a band.
That's my lifestyle.
That phase doesn't end well.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, that was what I was thinking,
because I was telling you guys,
is that musicians, there's just drugs all the time.
I feel like with comedians, it's less coke and fucking...
No, no, there's a lot of drugs.
It's around. It's around.
It's cooled down.
I think a lot of people got sober because people died.
A lot of people started dying.
That happened to music, too, though.
Definitely, it's not as bad as it was 10 years ago with some people.
Have you seen our band?
Well, your band's an outlier.
Everyone's doing below in this fucking band.
I'd say, in general, though, musicians are more conscious about drugs,
just like everyone else is.
But your band is an outlier, yes.
But yeah, in New York, people did less drugs, just like everyone else is. But your band is an outlier, yes. But yeah, in New York,
people did less drugs, I think,
because there was more to do.
Yeah, that's true.
Like, I would go to the suburbs,
like, I didn't see many suburbs
when I was going,
when I would go,
and the people talked about all the drugs.
It's like,
I still don't think we have a drug problem
in this country.
I think we got a boring suburbs problem.
That's why, though, how many times can I go fucking cozy up to the bar at Chili's and get the two for 20
mil?
It's like, there's nothing to do out there.
Right.
You're in a fucking boring street.
That's why Ohio has the biggest heroin epidemic and not New York City and LA.
There's nothing to do.
Like, I was going to clubs at 14, 15.
Yeah.
You know, it was great.
What were the drugs like in New Orleans, Mark?
It's a lot of in New Orleans, Mark?
New Orleans has got a hippy-dippy vibe to it There's a lot of acid growing up
And it's still Louisiana
So the meth was around
Oh yeah
I was talking to Felipe
He was talking about how he loved crack
Really?
He did it for like 10 years
He said he was going on tour in like Texas and
like asking room service for a
baking soda and a big ass spoon.
He called down to room service for baking soda and a spoon.
And they brought it to him.
And they brought it to him and they brought a security guard
to see, we just want to see what this dude was like
to ask for a fucking baking soda.
Reverend Finn, people. Wow, he was a crackhead.
That explains every conversation I've had with him.
Y'all, what's up, Mike?
Hey, how you doing?
Yeah.
You guys, you're a sports head too, Mark?
Not really. You're a sports head though.
So when
you're a kid,
what was the reason why you fell in love
with sports?
Were you trying to get away from it?
It was just what me and my friends did.
We played wiffle ball.
So you grow up, it's city block.
So we always used somebody's gate as the strike zone.
Because everyone's connected houses.
Played football on the street.
It was just sports and basketball. You grow up in the Catholic leagues, which was
still some of the best memories of my
childhood because it was serious.
You play 30, 40 games. You travel around the
city. I played with guys who
ended up being
great. I played with Manny
Ramirez in baseball.
Oh, shit. Really?
The Dominican kid who lived in
Washington Heights is Bonnie's.
I played for St. Saviour's.
And it's funny.
Those kids that...
I've also had a couple of sports shows.
Athletes, it's crazy.
They're freaks.
Like, they're not...
There's something freaky about them.
Like, I took a picture with Gronkowski once.
Dude, his hands...
Like, his hands look like catchers.
Right.
They're like...
They're mutants.
Right. And Manny Ramirez was like that At like 7
He was just like dinging shit
And we were just these little kids
And he was just like a man
Now he has 300 million dollars
It's just crazy
These guys gotta have hogs on them too
I was thinking about Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift
This is probably the first big hog
Taylor's hat.
You know?
Yeah.
She said like Harry Styles or not.
He's not like fucking just plowing.
I think it's not just boning.
I think it's her first boyfriend that's taller than her.
Right.
It's gotta be.
She's like six one or something.
She's tall.
Fuck.
I think about that because like I'm into,
I love,
I think of being in a band,
like being on a basketball team, you know, point guard, shooting guard. I think of being in a band like being on a basketball team.
Point guard, shooting guard.
Do you like the collaborative way of doing your art versus a solo?
Because you guys are solo acts in a sense.
I love solo sport.
UFC, tennis.
I like skateboarding.
I like a one-on-one boxing.
I like that more than a team.
A team to me, it kind of all just
blends together. It's just, you know,
the red versus the blue.
You know? I like when you can get
behind the guy. Like, wow, this UFC fighter
beat his wife.
He had a coke problem.
He fights or has
dog fights in his back. I like to get
to know him and then watch him fight.
Or watch him play. Yeah, I like them both. I like to get to know him and then watch him fight or watch him play.
Yeah, I like them both.
I really do enjoy them both.
I did sketch when I started doing stand-up,
so I got a little bit of both.
I like them both.
I like them both probably equally.
There's nothing like
when you get a rhythm with a comic
and a podcast
has really facilitated that nicely.
Yes.
Like two-man comedy
is back like it was
during Costello and Abbott, but
it's different. It's like riffing. It's like
jazz. It's jazz.
You could really create
a fun hour of comedy just off the top
of the head in this new
format, which is fun. Yeah, my friend,
he works in a machine shop
all day, and he just podcasts
all day, and he feels connected to the
comics, and it's so entertaining.
Do you feel like your fans
know a little too much about you now?
Sometimes, yeah.
Like you're walking around and they feel
like you're their friend and they just want to hang out.
I feel like that would be a little annoying. That's what happens with us
too, having a podcast.
That's the weird part. I'm always like, I'm an introvert.
I'm gay.
I'm anxiety ridden. I'm in my room
and people are like, I get it, man. You want to hang
out? I'm like, wait, what?
Let's get dinner. How about this guy?
The guy you're like, hey, I'm coming to Cleveland. The guy's
like, we should get a beer.
I have a guest house. You can stay with me.
I live three hours out of town. We can feed
my snake. I'm like, what?
Why would I want to do that? I got a hotel.
What triggers your anxiety, Mark?
Oh, you know,
people. People.
Some ethnicities.
No, no.
I don't know. I'm not scared
of people like climate change or cancer
or whatever. I'm just worried about
pissing people off. Yeah?
Yeah, that's my whole thing.
Really? That's surprising.
I know. I think that's why I say
crazy shit because I'm like, just get it over
with. You know? Just push through it.
Who are you more worried about pissing off?
Your fans or your wife?
Oh, the fans. I mean, she married
me, so that's on her. I'm like, hey, this is what you got,
sister. Yeah. I was
thinking about when you were saying like, I,
I went to a bunch of those sex clubs in Berlin and I love Berlin.
We tour in Berlin all the time. It, it, the freedom of Berlin.
It reminds me, I thought new,
maybe New York was like that in the nineties and maybe early two thousands.
But, um, what was your, how was your experience in Berlin?
Well, I thought it was amazing,
but I feel like America's gotten so problematic
that this would be just a Me Too factory in this club.
It was just naked women and grabbing ass and dicks swinging and shit
and people jerking off.
People just sit here jerking off next to you.
And you're like, oh, how about that?
How'd you get hard?
I looked at everyone else.
He's a piece of shit.
Look at the guy Disassociated
He's a performer
Showtime
It wasn't easy
Did you put on the glasses and said it's time to go to work?
Yeah
Tell me
What fascinated you with public sex?
I just was When in Rome I'm not with public sex? I mean, I just went in Rome.
I'm not a public sex guy, but I was like,
we're here, we're in Berlin, we'll never come back.
Might as well bang in the middle of a dance floor.
Was it hot?
No, she was getting into it.
She likes public. I don't like it.
I was just head on a swivel.
I was fucking like the way a squirrel does in a park.
Like, is there anyone around?
It's a lot easier to be an attractive woman when you're naked, I think.
Yeah, yeah.
My balls are hanging out.
It's not great.
They don't make statues of people like us.
You know what I'm saying?
Good point.
Do they hose it down?
What do they hose down the spa?
Have you ever been to a whorehouse?
Have you ever had sex with hookers?
Oh, me?
You want me to fucking record that?
I took my band.
We play in China, Hong Kong.
We opened for Justin Bieber.
Whoa.
You said China, Hong Kong.
Okay, good.
Well, Macau, actually, like the gambling part.
As long as you said China, Hong Kong, or else you'd have to issue like a John Cena apology
in Chinese.
Like what? Like an LeBron James or something.
Justin was in this
media beef and
Scooter gave us Justin's
hookers and they let our band have
sex with hookers. It was only me and my
sound man had the balls to
actually do it, but we went out there and
it really felt like cattle herd. They were
washing down. It was all plastic
and they washed
it down and they had hoses in the rooms
and shit.
Berlin's not like that. It was like
just clubs, right? It was like the five
clubs. It was just like Filipino
guys going, washy, washy.
Singing Mariah Carey.
It was like,
yeah, cause at first
It was Filipino women
Hosing you down
And we had to take
Three baths
Three
Yeah and then we all
Got naked in a hot tub
And it was like
The first time
Seeing my band's dicks
And then I started
Getting real insecure
And jealous
And jealous yeah
Cause my dudes have hogs
I was like
Fuck dude
This is so embarrassing
Who got the biggest hog
My guitar player, for sure.
He's got that energy.
He's got big dick energy.
He wouldn't fit in the room, so he couldn't come to this.
You guys ever do any of that stuff?
I'm a married guy.
I've only had sex with my wife.
What about when you guys were single comedians?
Was it fun, wild?
It was great.
What were you guys doing?
It was fun, but the quality of
Poon Tang was lower.
Yeah, I've been with a couple of Macaus.
Yeah, I mean,
comedy groupies is not like rock and roll
groupies. Really? Yeah.
But you guys are reinventing the rock
star. Mark, you're a fucking rock star.
Well, now it's kind of shifted to that because rock,
no offense, not you guys, but it's
gotten kind of soft.
I've been telling people this. It kind of doesn't exist anymore
for anyone under 35, really.
It's like Coldplay
or Vampire Weekend.
Yeah, there's a couple guys left.
Yeah, but they're all in their 50s.
Yeah, and it's definitely chilled, like, tame Impala.
We can't even have an Impala. It's got to be a tame Impala. Everything's just kind their 50s. Yeah, and it's definitely chilled, like, tame Impala. We can't even have an Impala.
It's got to be a tame Impala.
Everything's just kind of chilled out.
And I think stand-up has that bite and that dick that people have been craving.
I love it.
It's so fascinating.
It's a good point.
Like, I don't, I'm trying to, like, yeah, is rock and roll dying?
It's probably a phase, you know, ebb and flow kind of thing.
So it'll come back.
But I feel like hip hop kind of got the dick cooking.
But it'll come back.
It kind of reminds me of how blues musicians
were in the 80s and 90s
where they were sort of a nostalgia act.
But they would still draw tickets and do theaters.
That's how all those rock bands
that were popular in the 90s are now.
They're still out there playing and touring.
But it's about 10,000 less people than it used to be
and everyone's in their age group right
my buddy just went to a
festival in Vegas called
the way we were then oh yeah
it's a call when we were young when we were young
at the emo one yeah it was like offspring
and some 41 and
he said it was like beyond packed
it was like 65,000 people there
or something.
So there is still a craving
for that real rock.
Yeah.
Nostalgia is a big thing right now.
Sure, sure.
It's like a human resource nightmare now.
Yeah.
Rock.
Yeah, it's true.
Yeah, it used to be, you know,
hitting the lady with a fish.
Yeah.
TV coming out of the window
in the hotel room.
Groupies.
Right.
Now there's just like,
yeah, everyone sues.
Yeah.
I was talking to you
about this.
What is the toughest part
about being a comedian
traveling by yourself?
For me,
it's being away
from the family now.
Like I said,
I used to be,
I used to love it a lot more.
I still love it.
This has been great
being around comics,
but yeah,
the hotel room alone
after you've been doing it
for a long time.
It's gotta be lonely. Yeah, like I tell you, it's only so many times you can been doing it for a long time... It's got to be lonely.
There's only so many times you can discipline your dick.
So many times you can go and get sauce again.
What about you, Mark?
You get weird in that hotel.
I've jizzed on everything in a hotel.
The drapes, that doorknob.
You've got to make it fun for yourself.
You've got to get weird.
Oh, yeah.
I go, room service. And I go, come on in. You gotta make it fun for yourself Yeah You gotta get weird Room service guy Oh yeah They go
Room service
And I go
Come on in
No
But yeah
I kinda like the alone time
But I don't have a family
Really yet
So
I dig all that
That road stuff
Yeah
To me it's just the airport
The Uber
To the airport
To the terminal
To the baggage
To the Uber again
That's the part that kills me.
What's the difference? You're in these towns
for three days. We only get one day,
one night. What's the
difference between playing for
three different crowds that isn't
the same crowd versus playing here where you're
basically playing for the same people?
That part sucks. It sucks, right?
How are you working on your bits?
How are you trying to save some stuff for the bigger nights versus the other nights?
How do you do that?
I've been doing boat jokes.
Wrote some jokes for the boat.
Stuff like that.
And then Q&A.
Yeah.
Because I think...
Yeah, they don't want to hear my shit.
I do that tonight.
Yeah.
Do the Q&A.
And they know everything about you, so they'll have good questions.
You can just call everybody fat.
Yeah.
Wrap it up.
There you go.
That's easy.
Like, last night, we were all fucking hammered.
Like, day three on the boat, the bender starts kicking.
Oh, yeah.
Last night was my worst one.
Last night was your worst one?
What about you, Mark?
How was your show last night?
It was tough.
My worst drinking.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
This group chat is insane with all you guys.
It's so great to normally group chat with bands Like where's the coke at
We're drinking we're at the Haven
We're talking about stand up
We got the industry on ours
So you kind of have to
But if we had our own
It would just be dicks
Or we'd take pictures of shits.
That's a big one.
Comedian group chats are holy mackerel.
What are they like?
Yeah, I mean, the only thing that could make us laugh,
like I always had this idea there should be like a clown,
a comedy clown for us to go laugh
because the things that would make us laugh
is like him rolling out a baby
and like fucking beating it or kicking a dog.
We're like, ah!
Because we're so jaded.
We're around it so much.
So comedians tend to just get dark and go the racial whatever.
Just the darkest, darkest jokes.
It just kind of spirals into evil.
It's like a drug.
You kind of keep upping it.
And we're all the way on heroin, fentanyl, anal.
Your tolerance is insane right now. Yeah. Oh, yeah. upping it and we're all the way on heroin, fentanyl, anal. Your tolerance is insane,
right? Yeah.
Why are the best
comedians the most depressed, the most
darkest? They need it the most, probably.
They need the laughs the most.
They need the attention the most.
And we're constantly just observing, so when you
take a lot in, you're like,
this is sad, that's fucked up, the world's crazy.
Is it fucked up that you're always just making fun of yourselves?
No, it keeps you sane.
That's healthy.
I think comedy keeps everyone sane.
We're the only people fucking keeping people sane.
I know.
But who's keeping you guys sane?
That's the tough part.
Happening.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
How are you getting your, how are you getting your
dopamine if you're giving it out? And therapy, yeah.
And you get it out from performing. That helps.
You get a bump there, and therapy,
and exercise, cold plunge,
whatever the internet says. Whatever Andrew
Huberman says, I do. I breathe,
I take deep breaths, I hold it for five seconds, I cold
plunge. One more. Magnesium,
I don't know what people are selling nowadays. You guys
get panic attacks? Oh, yeah. I've been cart what people are selling nowadays. Do you guys get panic attacks?
Oh, yeah.
I've been carted off on a stretcher in a comedy club.
What?
What happened?
Providence, Rhode Island.
Comedy Connection.
Really?
Yeah. What happened?
At the time, it was a lot.
My dad just got cancer.
My mom was just going to the memory care facility.
I was just doing a lot.
And in retrospect, I think it was just overwhelmed.
I just released that first special I did with Schultz.
And I didn't have any material.
And I had a, it was all podcast fans at the time.
So it was so long.
I knew they watched the special.
So I was nervous.
I didn't have material.
So I didn't sleep.
I didn't eat.
I got in there and it just, I got up on stage and it's just like the black curtain came down.
And I just got off stage. And then I tried to drink, tried to eat. Didn't eat. I got in there and it just, I got up on stage and it's just like the black curtain came down and I just got off
stage. And then I tried to
drink, tried to eat, didn't work. And then
the owner was like, are you diabetic? I'm like, no.
He's like, you want me to call an ambulance? And I was like, I guess so.
And then, you know, once you get
on the stretch, you start feeling better.
Oh, fuck. There's nothing wrong with me.
I'm a pussy. And it was
also like New England
asshole EMTs
So like
What the fuck's wrong
Was it your first night
Yeah
Was it your first time
Doing comedy
Yeah
Yeah fucking
Your pussy's alright
Yeah
You fucking got a little scared
Oh my god
It was like
Shit the fuck up
Peter Griffin
Yeah
They were not fun
That's wild
I heard in a podcast
It was embarrassing
Getting fucking carted out
through the crowd
and people stood up
like I was a football player
going like,
I was like,
okay,
I'm sorry.
Aaron Rodgers.
I'm a nervous guy.
I apologize.
DeMar Hamlin
being reeled out of there.
Right.
You know,
the vaccine.
Exactly.
Yeah,
people would have just
fucking put in the vaccine emoji
if it was.
That's true.
Yeah. It's funny when everyone dies.
You just see a bunch of vaccine emojis.
It's a bunch of people on Twitter trying to say
Matthew Perry drowned from the vaccine.
That's hilarious.
They're saying that Matthew Perry drowned.
There's all those people online saying that he is from the vaccine.
I don't think it works exactly like that.
That guy was doing opiates.
He was on Friends.
Could have been the 30 years of pills.
He's like,
Could I be
any more dead?
Dude, when they did
that reunion, he came out with
no teeth.
I was high all the time.
Yeah, we know.
Fun fact about Friends, if we're going in.
The lead singer of Counting Crows.
Adam Duritz.
Yeah, he fucked Courtney Cox and Jennifer Aniston.
Really?
Pretty good little run.
He was kind of the John Mayer of the 90s with Pussy, right?
He banged everyone.
He banged a bunch of other actresses, too.
Sha-la-la-la-la.
Yeah.
He had dreads.
Oh, yeah.
White guys with dreads.
That was before that was bad.
Sure.
Also, side note, those are fake dreads.
No.
Yep, he wears a wig.
What?
Shut up.
Yeah, dude.
Stolen valor.
He's Orthodox Jewish?
Yeah.
He's got this.
Yeah, we opened for the Counting Crows.
And he put a wig on?
He put a fucking wig on.
What?
Like a black woman at church?
It was like a weave, dude.
It was wild. Yeah, dude. It was wild.
Yeah, I couldn't believe it.
I'm like, you're my idol.
And he's like, I'm like...
Is anything real?
And he looked me in the mirror and looked that way.
And he put his fucking wig on.
I'm like, oh, dude.
Oh, man.
It's not even cool to have dreads.
If you're going to have a wig, do something cool.
Well, I think what it was is his hair was falling out later in his career.
He probably had dreads when he was younger.
And he just like, that was his image now.
They weren't always fake.
Okay, okay, okay. Wow.
Damn, what a pussy man. He was fucking both of them?
Oh yeah, he did very well.
Who's the pussy man in the comedy scene?
Who gets it? I think Pete Davidson has the crown.
Oh yeah. Have you ever, have you met him
before? Sure. Yeah.
He's got a hog on him, right? Yeah.
That's the word.
He's just like, I can see when he, right? Yeah. That's the word. What's his like,
he's just like,
I could see when he's like,
you know,
he's just fucked.
Like,
you know,
skinny white dudes.
It just happens.
Yeah.
Tattoos.
God damn it.
Yeah.
He,
I mean,
it is,
that's crazy.
His level is crazy.
Who's like the smallest dick
in the community?
Be honest.
I don't know.
Smallest dick.
Bobby Lee.
Ballpark guest there.
I haven't seen it,
so I guess everybody would know.
Is it hard to commit to someone
when you're always on the road?
Sure.
When did you finally meet your person?
I think we both had a solid run.
Yeah.
It was a nice run.
Pre-marriage.
So you kind of got it out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Definitely had fun.
Yeah.
Definitely had fun.
And I had fun before comedy.
Yeah.
I got it in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's fucking amazing.
I was ready to do it.
I was ready to...
Part of it was like, I did that.
Yeah.
It just felt kind of all right. So it was like, I did that. Yeah. It just felt kind of,
all right.
So it was like,
you know,
later in life,
it's lucky.
What we do,
you can do that.
Yeah.
There's no,
there's nobody who's like a lawyer going like,
I'm going to fucking get all the pussy until I'm 60.
Right,
right.
No CPAs like,
let's go boys.
That guy's leaving cash on a dresser and paying for it.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
And there's only so many times you can fuck Miss Pat.
We had a history.
If you were comedians, what would you be?
I've thought about this a lot.
UPS.
Well, I don't want to work in an office.
I'm outdoors in the truck, no door.
Got the shorts on.
Everybody loves a package.
Bring packages to the door. You're out in the suburbs. no door. Got the shorts on. Everybody loves a package. Bringing packages to the door.
You're out in the suburbs.
You probably meet some housewives, you know, the husbands at work.
And she's been having a few of those during the day.
You pop in.
What can Brown do for you?
You get the hell out of there.
Makes sense.
What about you, Yos?
Oh, man
I don't think I would be able to do anything
Maybe a teacher
Right
I can see that
Yeah, and this country is a very low standard for that
So I just show up
Yeah
Just show up and yeah
If you're athletic, would you be an athlete?
I'd probably be like
Yeah, the athlete would be number one
Yeah
Yeah, that was like the pipe dream
I thought I was like make rationalize it I was like, make, rationalize it.
I was like, my mother was born in Greece.
I can go move to Greece.
I'll play there as if those guys aren't good.
They're good too.
I just wasn't good enough at all.
Not even close.
Do you think, Mark, if growing up in New Orleans,
if you didn't just absorb yourself with music,
or was music a big part of your culture growing up?
Growing up, I never did it, but I enjoyed it.
Yeah, so who were you listening to?
What was the vibe?
Well, we had our own bands.
First of all, Lil Wayne's from there.
We had all the hot boys, Juvenile.
That was huge.
I saw Lil Wayne at the mall when I was younger.
We were the same age.
But then we have Rebirth and all these great bands. Galactic.
All from there. And in
my specials, I have all New Orleans music.
Sick. Just to represent.
Yeah, we tour with Galactic a bunch.
Oh, yeah? Yeah, Ben Allman produced
two of our records. Whoa!
Yeah, I mean, that's
what I fell in love. Dr. John,
Professor Longhair. That's like the reason
why I play piano. Really? I love Dr. John Professor Longhair That's like the reason Why I play piano
Really
I love Dr. John
New Orleans is so special man
I would
I can't live there
Because I'm such an alcoholic
And like
I love coke and shit
That
I would die there
You don't want to live there though
Take it from a guy who
It's like seeing a
Trans person
In the morning
Right
You know
Because like
It's fun You know When Because like, it's fun.
When it's all dolled up,
you're drinking,
you're eating gumbo,
you're at Mardi Gras,
you're at a jazz club.
Yeah.
And then,
you know,
after a few years of living there,
you're like,
you see the cracks
in the ball bag.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Have you ever seen
anyone get shot?
I've seen shot.
I've seen stabbings.
It's,
I never saw a guy die, but I saw the boom, boom, and then the guy went, ah, and I got the hell out of there.
I was in New Orleans for one day.
The Joker's cruise took off from there.
It was this boat.
I think I told you this.
I saw a homeless dude get hit with a brick, and I saw another dude chasing another dude with a knife.
What?
And it was like,
yeah,
I was there one day.
Yeah.
It was the most,
New Orleans is sketchy as fuck.
Yeah.
That was the most elaborate
impractical Joker's prank
of all time.
Murders in the back room,
hit him with the brick.
It's like,
yeah,
I've never seen anything
like that happen before,
but like,
have you ever,
anything like that happened to you? Have you ever gotten stabbed, shot, like anything? I got shot, yeah, I've never seen anything like that happen before. But like, have you ever, anything like that happened to you?
Have you ever gotten stabbed, shot?
I got shot, yeah.
He got shot.
You got shot?
Yeah.
What?
Yeah.
Do you want to talk about it or no?
I mean, I've talked about it a lot, but yeah, it's, yeah, I was, it was when I first started doing comedy and I was working at nightclubs.
My friend had a, he was a promoter at a nightclub and it was like an attempted robbery on him.
He had a bunch of cash. He would leave
with like a bunch of cash.
And yeah, I got shot point blank range with a
.38 right in the fucking inner thigh.
Thank God
you didn't die. I mean. It's lucky because
it's the main artery.
Missed the main artery. Wow.
We were just talking with Felipe about that.
His buddy, they saw, he saw, he was in a
gang. He was, and when he was 14, he saw someone just shoot point blank,
kill him right in front.
Yikes.
I loved it.
You've been shot right through the leg,
but Providence Comedy Connection, that's really scary shit right there.
No panic attack.
Yeah, the irony of it is when it was happening,
I was calm, collected,
made decisions,
and then the anxiety
hit afterward.
That's when my panic attack
started was after that.
Oh, really?
That's when they started.
Interesting.
So you think that's
how PTSD starts?
Yeah, that's how PTSD is.
Like, your brain
just fucking protects you
when it's happening.
You're just calm.
You get all these chemicals,
I guess adrenaline
and whatever else, cortisol. You know, you're just... I was calm and collected while it's happening, you're just calm. You get all these chemicals, I guess, adrenaline and whatever else,
cortisol,
you know,
you're,
you're just,
I was calm and collected while it was happening.
I was making decisions.
And then afterwards I'd be in the subway and be like,
yeah,
yeah.
And I didn't know it wasn't like commonly known what those were then.
So I had no idea what was happening to me.
Right.
Really weird.
Makes you think about guys in like thes after World War I or whatever,
and they just didn't know what anything was.
There was no therapy.
There was no medication.
There was no psychology.
It was just like,
I'm different now.
Then you hit your wife or whatever
just to get through it.
That's why the baby boomers
were so fucked up.
They were raised by a bunch of
World War II veterans
that didn't get therapy.
No therapy or anything.
Take it back to what we started talking about.
My dad spent a month in a hospital afterwards.
He was like, yeah, I had a rash, and they told me I would get nervous once in a while.
They had no idea.
Right.
After Korea.
Depression, anxiety, none of that shit was real.
1992 or something, that wasn't a depression.
Do you have any PTSD over anything, Mark?
Well, not much.
When I was a kid, we lived in this big house that was kind of dilapidated.
So we got robbed all the time.
People would break in the house.
And as a little kid, you're sleeping in your bed upstairs, and you just hear glass break.
That's fucking brutal.
It was brutal.
And you're just like, are they going to come up here?
Are they going to go down there?
So that made me skid.
And that happened six times a year, seven times a year.
You're like, oh, fuck, there's someone in the house.
And then you go downstairs and the TV's gone or whatever.
Yeah.
That's brutal.
So that messed with me.
Oh, especially as a little kid.
Oh, yeah.
Fuck you up.
Big bed wetter.
I think it was all trauma, all fear.
Oh, yeah.
Do you ever get that?
Does it ever like you remember it?
Sometimes you're in New York or like you said you got mugged.
Oh, dude.
I go to my apartment. I have a small New York apartment and I go and when I'm
home alone, I'm like,
I'm looking under the bed. I check the shower and I'm like,
what am I doing? There's like 50 units
of child stuff.
My door was locked. Everything was locked, but I still have that
like, he's in here. There's a guy in here.
Yeah, I was afraid of Jesus when I was a kid.
I watched Passion of the Christ.
I watched Passion of the Christ way too early in my life.
And I swear to God, I would not take the trash out.
I wouldn't go upstairs if it was dark. I was horrified of Jesus.
Wow.
Well, that movie didn't make him see.
Dude, they're like, fucking kill the Jews.
I was like, oh, no, no, no, I got to go.
Shouldn't he be scared of you since you're Jewish?
You killed him.
Good point.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
You're the aggressor here.
I've never heard of that.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
He's got to go.
Oh, I got five.
Okay, yeah.
Thank you.
Let's end this now.
Thanks, guys.
So, Mark, thanks for being here.
Hey, thank you.
I heard you had a big one last night.
Yeah, I'm hurting.
You're hurting.
I'm hurting.
We stayed out too late. It was brutal. I didn't get to bed until like 7. Hey, thank you. I heard you had a big one last night. Yeah, I'm hurting. You're hurting. I'm hurting. We stayed out too late.
It was brutal.
I didn't get to bed until like 7.
Yeah, same.
And you can't jerk off.
There's no porn.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Brutal.
Well, you got to buy the...
I bought the $200 internet so I could do it.
Just for the yank.
I bought it.
It helps, but it's still shoddy.
It is shoddy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got to jerk off to it like a freeze spray.
Yeah.
Remember when you used to have to beat off to just regular pictures
I used to lay the magazines out
and make it a movie
it was like the prehistoric multiple browsers
it was like compilation porn
well guys
thanks for being on the show
you guys are goats to me
and as musicians we're just in awe of someone just going up there with their dick out solo.
If we do music, we're pussies.
We have five other people behind us.
You have to do this by yourself in front of theaters.
And I'm envious, and I'm just thankful you're there to laugh with all of us.
Hey, thanks.
We can't do anything else.
Yeah.
So that's all we got.
UPS just got a bunch of good new contracts.
My last question is, when it's all said and done,
what do you want to be remembered by?
Oh, you know, just funny, got some laughs,
you know, told some good zingers.
You want to be looked at as a good comic, not a hack. That's really all.
Nice guy.
Me too. Same exact.
Ditto. What he said.
For sure. You want the respect.
You want the respect.
Makes people laugh. Be thought of as a good dude.
There's some comics
who died and they died and they're like...
Right.
Some guy like Todd Lynn.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
Exactly. He was a dick.
Yeah. I had some family members like that.
Yeah, yeah. Right.
You can really tell who someone was when they died.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. True.
How people react. He was always
on time.
They're taking up the worst confidence.
He wore pants when he went outside.
Exactly.
Well, keep up the great work, guys, and I'll see you on the road, probably.
Thanks, guys.
Thanks for having me.
Have a good one.
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