Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 256: Andy and Nick Catch Up With Friends

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

Shawn Eckels hits ya with a full band ode to Frasco's Monday Motivations. Craig Brodhead from Cool Cool Cool joins the fray as he, Nick, and Andy discuss whether OJ Simpson really did do it (spoiler: ...he totally did it). In other news: murder is legal in California so long as you have money! But more than just news from 30 years ago, we got an entire episode devoted to learning, community service, and the pursuit of happiness. Mayyyyybe a few c*m jokes for good measure? But strictly NO Turkuaz gossip, whatsoever. Oh! And Andy "Clark" Westby is in the house that Shorgasm built.  And guess what... Watch the full episodes Exclusively on Volume.com now in color!  Psyched to partner up with our buddies at Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. Call, leave a message, and tell us if you think one can get addicted to mushrooms: (720) 996-2403  Check out our new album!, L'Optimist on all platforms Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out our good friends that help us unwind and sleep easy while on the road and at home: dialedingummies.com Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Arno Bakker Shawn Eckels

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Now, a message from the UN. Sunday and Frasco is still drinking A random hot Italian girl is in the bed and she's waking He plays as many shows as possible More than one man a bank can achieve Even with a podcast, this job is never fucking complete So here's some Monday motivation Just another Monday motivation Monday This is his therapy
Starting point is 00:00:59 I'm certified He doesn't wanna pay for therapy No way You're saying what it means to hear It's just a Monday motivation It's a Monday motivation Get your shit together Don't go back to sleep now
Starting point is 00:01:25 Woah, fuck all the haters Saves your money, motivation And I'm a hater Woah, get your shit together Woah, woah, don't go back to sleep now Woah, fuck all the haters Woah, woah, fuck all the haters Fuck all the haters Fuck all the haters Fuck all the haters
Starting point is 00:01:47 Fuck all the haters Fuck all the haters Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck the haters Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck the haters It's your Monday Motivation And we're back. Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast. I'm Andy Frasco.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Hot off a long week of debauchery, going to parties, and recording songs. And the minute I get home, Nick is sitting in this chair reading If I Did It by O.J. Simpson. I want to get to the bottom of this. Get to the bottom of what? Who do you think killed those people? What do you? He wrote a book called If I Did It. If I Did It.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I mean, he knows the house. He used to live there. I can't handle you. You know, he's probably sad his wife got murdered. You know, the mother of his children was. Have you ever heard that there's a conspiracy that his son did it? OJ's son. By the way, we have Craig Broadhead
Starting point is 00:02:49 from Cool Cool Cool in the building. What's up, Craig? Was it his son five at the time? No, he had an older... He has an older son. Oh, the older son from the first marriage. I had not heard that. It wasn't her kid.
Starting point is 00:03:05 There was a rumor that he had a crush on her and that's why he did it. Obviously. Is that what you learned from the book? Well, we know OJ Simpson didn't do it. We know he didn't do it. He's found innocent in a court of law. No, not the civil trial. I think it's wild that he's also just acting like
Starting point is 00:03:22 life is completely normal. Mason and Cameron have this podcast called It Is What It Is. It's the best. Yeah, it's good. And their lead sports football analysis is the juice. The guy's a great football player. He was the first guy to rush for 2,000 yards. And he's giving hot takes about the Buffalo Bills and stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:43 I'm like, yo, just you got away with it. No, get out of here. It's been 30 years since he didn't kill his wife. I think it's cool that he can go on a podcast. Well, Andy got arrested. Remember, he went to jail, though. For stealing his memory. Yeah, that's what he went to jail for.
Starting point is 00:03:58 For a while. I was like, there's a three part ESPN documentary that's also excellent. Yeah. And they talk about like it was literally the dumbest. But he's a terrible criminal.PN documentary that's also excellent. And they talk about it was literally the dumbest. He's a terrible criminal. That's the thing. He's bad at crime. Once he started committing crimes in the 2000s. Hey, Bo, look that up. What did he steal back?
Starting point is 00:04:16 It was like sports memorabilia of his. Sports memorabilia. Vegas. I think he broke into a hotel room. No, it was... He definitely broke into something, right? They hatched the plan in a hotel room. A guy with CTE hatched the plan.
Starting point is 00:04:31 It was a bunch of dummies. What's it say? Zoom in. Las Vegas. It was like Ocean's Eleven with CTE. People don't realize he turned 72 in July. Yeah, dude. In 2007, he was sentenced to prison for robbing a man realize he turned 72 in July. Yeah, dude. Okay, so in 2007 he was sentenced to prison for
Starting point is 00:04:47 robbing a man named Alfred What up, Westby? You know anything about OJ Wesley? Yeah, he tried to steal everyone. How does everyone know this? It was very big news. He went to jail.
Starting point is 00:05:03 What's the quote say? I don't feel that he was a threat to anyone out there. He said he's a good man. And know that he does a lot for people. I feel that nine and a half to 33 years was way too long. It was his. He's a good man. He killed his wife. No, he didn't.
Starting point is 00:05:20 He was found innocent in a court of law. Yeah, but he also wrote that book. If I did it. He wrote the book If I Did It. Google this. If. The if is so small. I know.
Starting point is 00:05:29 It's insane. It's beautiful work. Was that the Goldman Estate that made them... Yes, this is the Goldman Estate version, actually. Oh, nice. Oh, that's what has the pictures. It's called If I Did It, The Confessions of the Killer.
Starting point is 00:05:40 It's $14.99 on Amazon right now. See, I don't understand. This isn't a book about OJ. It's a book written by OJ about a murder that was committed against his wife that he was accused of in 1994, and he didn't do it. But if he did do it, this is how he would have done it. Yes. Because, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:53 he knows the place. He knows... He got a lot of details. That sounds so insane to me. You're right. How would he... Why would he agree to this? Yes, Andy, that sounds insane. That's why I'm reading this. Why would he agree to this? Agree. What do you mean agree? I think it was his idea insane that's why i'm reading this why would he agree to this agree what do you mean agree i think it was his idea that's what i'm saying like this is like he doesn't realize like the people who are publishing this book is like basically trying to get it out of him like dude this dude killed him i don't think you're understanding
Starting point is 00:06:18 his psychology appropriately yeah you're right There's a part where he talks about Ron Goldman doing karate moves. Yes. Who would know that? That's so specific. This is why CTE is real. Oh, yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:06:38 This man's been concussed multiple times. Yeah, so he should be allowed to kill one or two people. His wife? Have you seen that Junior Seau documentary? Yeah, so he should be allowed to kill one or two people. His wife. Have you seen that Junior Seau documentary? Yeah, that's sad as hell. Sad, dude. Dude, these football players. By the way, poor Bo.
Starting point is 00:06:54 I feel horrible for Buffalo. It's so cold there. I have less sympathy. Oh, yeah, you're a Cleveland fan. Yeah, so we're saying they've been to a Super Bowl. Yeah, how do you keep rooting for a team who just always loses? That's a Cleveland fan. They've been to a Super Bowl. How do you keep rooting for a team who just always loses? That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I think that you become... You start to identify with... You're proud of it. You're proud of it because you look at everybody else who has all the success and you keep toughing it out.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Yeah. And you still have, that's hope. And whenever I tell someone I'm a Browns fan, they're like, that's kind of cool. You're like, you're not a bitch. You don't sell out. Right. Because it would be really easy,
Starting point is 00:07:35 and like, it was like when my brother had kids, like, they literally had to, like, had to have a talk, like, with him and his wife. What? Of, like, Yeah, you have to make your, you're really gonna, You're really going to...
Starting point is 00:07:45 We're really going to do this? We're going to raise as Browns fans? Like, of course. Of course. Although they have been good recently. They did lose horribly in the first round of the playoffs. But they made the playoffs. Browns are good.
Starting point is 00:08:01 We were 0-16. Yeah, it's true. But the great thing about underdog cities is those are the most fun to hang out in. I fucking love Cleveland. I fucking love Buffalo. I love Charlotte. Charlotte doesn't really...
Starting point is 00:08:15 The Panthers? What are they fucking doing? Well, Minneapolis. Oh, the Vice? I do. Minneapolis is a great city, too. Oh, my God. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:21 No, there's a... Died in the wool, like salt of the earth. Yeah. People have jobs there. Not LA, where they're like... Oh my God. Well, yeah. No, it's, there's a, dyed in the wool, like salt of the earth, you know. Yeah. People have jobs there. You know, not LA where they're like, I'm an Instagram influencer.
Starting point is 00:08:32 My dad, my dad owns a car wash. Yeah, you keep it real. Plus when you get on top, like when Cavs won in 2016, it was like everybody was excited. Like it was like, if you get to the other side, it's the best feeling.
Starting point is 00:08:47 This is why I love... That release... I'm still holding on to it. Literally. It's almost eight years ago. I still think about it. I'll love LeBron until the day I die because of that. I don't care what he does.
Starting point is 00:08:59 He could kill his wife in a waiter. Jesus fucking Christ. That's what you're supposed to do on podcasts. Let Sidney West be in the building. Come wife in a waiter. Jesus fucking Christ. That's what you're supposed to do on podcasts. There's Sidney Westby in the building. Come on in, brother. Denzel. Denzel's a little skittish. He doesn't like you.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Grab a chair. I'm good. You look a little strung out. He's leaning against me. What happened? We just partied with 10 powder dogs. He's scared of you. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:09:31 He doesn't like guys with beards. He knows I'm a powder dog. He smells the molly on your breath. There was a lot of mushrooms on the trip. People are still doing molly? Yeah. There's good molly out there. I tried it Yeah. I hate Molly. There's good Molly out there. I tried it once.
Starting point is 00:09:48 By the people we know. And it's great. Really? Does it give you that hangover two days later where you want to kill everyone on earth? You want to kill your wife and a waiter? Denzel is scared of you. He looks like he's seen a fucking ghost. I've never seen him do this with anyone.
Starting point is 00:10:04 What did you do over the weekend? What'd you. He looks like he's seen a fucking ghost. I've never seen him do this with anyone. What did you do over the weekend? He's He's nice. You're on a fucking Mollie hang, a mush hangover. You roll into Denver like, welcome to Denver. We got, just pet him. Oh, so cute.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I've never seen him do that. It's so weird. You must know I'm a dog. He may be a Detroit Lions. Dogs. We're going. Alright, so you're a week in Denver. What are we going to do? Are you going to have fun with this? Yeah, I think we're going to have some FUN. I'm going to learn how to be a
Starting point is 00:10:38 roadie. Not that hard. Hate your life. Alright, Westby, get some rest. We're going out tonight. We're going to Yacht Club. We're going to Yacht Club. We're going to Yacht Club. Oh, yeah, my first one. Yeah, first one. Craig's coming, too.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Have you met Craig? This is Craig from Cool Cool Cool. What's up, man? I'm the good Andy. You remember Turquoise? Yeah. He's a guitar player at Turquoise. He's the lead guitar player in Turquoise.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Let's go. We're not going to talk about that, though. Cool, cool, cool. It's all cool, cool, cool. Yeah, we don't do gossip on this channel. Yeah, we don't do gossip on this channel Unless you want to Alright Wes You're scaring the dog
Starting point is 00:11:11 What the hell is wrong with you I've never seen Denzel do that I've never seen him do anything but love His eyes are locked on him Dude I've never seen this He was growling before Really Even he doesn't believe in the law Dude, he's about to growl. I've never seen this. He was growling before. Yeah, he was growling at him.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Really? Damn. Even he doesn't believe in the Lions. Oh, yeah, I forgot. He's a big Joe Montana guy. He's a big Joe Montana guy. Yeah, he used to have a Joe Montana jersey when we got him at the Super Bowl. All right. Craig, you just got back from Japan.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I did. Konnichiwa. Yeah, Konnichiwa. How was it? It was incredible Tell me everything because I skipped out on my Japan trip Now I'm regretting it Ever seen your Insta story for the last couple weeks
Starting point is 00:11:52 Well it's still there so you can still go Do they hate Americans because we bombed them? No that's the craziest thing French people we fought for them And they hate us. Actually, I mean, I'm really... While I was there, because I went to some art exhibits and stuff,
Starting point is 00:12:11 I didn't realize, obviously the two atomic bombs, but also we bombed them for years and years and years and years. I did not know that. No one teaches us this. To be fair, they sank six of our boats. What a podcast. No, but that's, I mean, it is an incredible testament to what can happen.
Starting point is 00:12:36 You can be, I mean, my grandpa fought in World War II against Japanese. Right. And then all of a sudden they're paying for me to go play music for them. Yeah. Now you're at Fuji rock. Yeah. It's an amazing story really. Honestly.
Starting point is 00:12:49 No, they actually are super, super cool to Americans in general. Like they sort of, um, I mean, we have a ton in common really. Was,
Starting point is 00:12:58 were you, cause you went by yourself for two weeks. I did. Yeah. What, did you feel like Bill Murray from Lost in Translation? Uh, yeah. Often. Yeah. I did, yeah. Did you feel like Bill Murray from Lost in Translation? Yeah, often, yeah. Except for,
Starting point is 00:13:09 you know. Did you meet any Japanese men to take you out and party? You have a girlfriend. We're not going to say you had women. I made friends. You make friends. That's why music is sick. I was just going out to you know,
Starting point is 00:13:24 their DJ scene is super sick. I was just going out to their DJ scene is super sick. Is it? It's awesome. What are the clubs like? Well, they stay, they open like you go, people go out at like midnight or one and stay out until like six.
Starting point is 00:13:40 And then there's afters from like six to ten. You went to afters from till 10? Hell yeah. Are they doing drugs? No. No drugs? No drugs.
Starting point is 00:13:49 That's what I'm saying. They have like no drugs there. No drugs. Not even weed, right? Cigarettes and booze and coffee. There you go. So are they just getting fucking obliviated on booze? They're fucking high on, yes, but also like everything.
Starting point is 00:14:02 The city is like so much, it's such a psychedelic city like yeah they're kind of living in this this other state where you don't I mean drugs are like incredibly illegal oh yeah like death sentence illegal I don't know about death sentence but like you will go to jail
Starting point is 00:14:19 that was the scariest part of flying into Japan like they searched all my shit well i don't know sometimes they're in my bag no i yo i had a moment where i was like did i because sorry you're a drug addict i don't know what to tell you i had a scary moment because i have you know like um i had you know at one point i had some like thc whatever some gummies or stuff in my like in my like toiletry bag yeah and my bag took forever to come up through the thing and I made sure I went through everything
Starting point is 00:14:48 before but I was like I was like oh shit oh shit like I was literally sweating I was waiting for like the cops to come like Japanese police to come like kick me out of the country or put me in jail and it finally came up and I was like oh all right did you go to any uh karaoke joints well it's um no because i feel like that'd be super sad to go by yourself i guess oh yeah they
Starting point is 00:15:13 have like booths go to a booth i love the booth for one please yeah i'll take the booth for one and please put on i will survive by ruth no did. Honestly, the vibe is that every bar is just karaoke. It's just built in. Every place. When I was in Kyoto, one night I was out super late, and we're drinking, talking about stuff. They spoke pretty good English at the spot, and at one point
Starting point is 00:15:40 the guy just puts the mic in front of me and he's like, pick a song. And I sang Paul Simon's Graceland in in there and we're all singing graceland together but they had like the japanese translation underneath everything and the one dude was like crying he's like this is the most beautiful song what if it translated something like no no exactly you know i love the japanese so much. It's dude. And really, we have so much in common, especially in terms of how we're expected to work.
Starting point is 00:16:15 It's the only other nation, I think, that's like that. They have grind culture there. Yeah, for sure. I love how quiet all the trains are. Everything's quiet. And that was actually one of the things when I came back that was such a drag was like, people, they respect your personal space. And like, you know, a public space is like, it's super rude to interject yourself into
Starting point is 00:16:36 somebody else's business. Right. And I got into the Dallas airport. This guy was just like freestyling in my face on the train. And I was just like, I almost said, I was just like dude you can't be doing this man Well that's what I was wondering about making friends Japanese Craig is changed Are they like outgoing enough
Starting point is 00:16:54 For you to meet new people They are not outgoing at all You have to go to a place where What the Japanese aren't They are not outgoing people Cause you have to go That's why I would go out to a DJ club where you like the same music.
Starting point is 00:17:09 You're there. You're there for the same reason. Then it's okay to socialize. But they're not going to do the American thing where they just start talking in the gas station line about the weather. Oh, yeah. Fuck that shit, dude.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I hate that shit. It's so... To talk to a stranger for no reason is considered extremely rude. What about the bar scene? So they're not talking to anyone? They're just drinking? No, they talk. They have friends with them.
Starting point is 00:17:30 When you have friends, you talk. It's a super international city. I was there with people from Mexico City and Norway. The people want to know, is it a cheap vacation? Can you go there and actually have a vibe if you're
Starting point is 00:17:46 balling on a budget? I spent literally two grand less than I budgeted for. Let's fucking go! I don't know. I think our economy is strong, I guess, right now. I'm putting quotation marks.
Starting point is 00:18:02 The dollar is very strong right now. I was getting... And also, food is extremely cheap there. Because they subsidize... Food is such a part of culture that they have things in place to make sure that food is affordable. And every menu needs to have a certain amount of affordable options.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Is there a lot of fatty foods? Well, hell yeah. Like the curry shit? Yeah, but it's like because they... I don't think their food is as poisoned as ours. So I was eating like not like healthy and I felt amazing. Oh my. What about.
Starting point is 00:18:32 It's like those people go to Europe and they're like, I ate worse and I lost 20 pounds. I ate so much pasta in Italy and I lost 10 pounds. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or we just have, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:43 They don't have plastic in their pasta. Yeah. Yeah. They don't have plastic in their pasta. It, yeah, yeah. They don't have plastic in their pasta. It's like, wait a second, this is toy pasta that you fucking
Starting point is 00:18:48 heated up in the oven. My daughter has this in her Fisher-Bright kitchen. I think about that because I always get the mac and cheese at the Hilton or the Hampton Inn.
Starting point is 00:18:58 That's probably the Hilton. No, just like mac, like the one-minute instant. Oh, dude, bro. The late night fucking, I always get that or like the top get that You have to read the ingredients It's like Nine pages of unpronounceable things
Starting point is 00:19:12 I love how they have so many different Ramens The 7-Elevens in Japan Are fucking awesome It's the best All their fried foods The fami-chiki, is so fucking good.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Amazing. And also, attractive girls are walking. You know if you see someone in America eating gas station food, which we do from time to time, but you're just like, I'm eating a gas station food.
Starting point is 00:19:43 There'll be a very attractive woman who'll walk in and just get a piece of fried chicken and just walk out. It's awesome. It's fucking hot. I love Japanese women, dude. What's that like? Are the Japanese men protective of the Japanese women? They don't want Americans dating them?
Starting point is 00:19:58 Nah. You just threaten them. You just go, remember what we did? Dude, come on. Jesus fucking Christ. Nick, you can't say that. I think that there's Japanese women that are interested in foreign men.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Just like anything else. And then there's probably most that aren't. Are there hookers? A lot. You see a lot of hookers? It's more like in the district that you're in. Yeah. You know, but are there hookers? A lot. You see, you see a lot of hookers. Yeah. Well, it's more like,
Starting point is 00:20:26 um, in the district that you're in. Yeah. It's very regulated. Right. Oh, it's legal. It's yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:33 It's, it's legal. I mean, it's the same shit kind of as like in Vegas of, of like, okay. Uh, Germany or Netherlands,
Starting point is 00:20:38 like where it's like, technically you can't say that you're sex for money, but like, that's exactly what it is. But no, it's super regulated and they have it in there's a district where you go and it's crazy because it's
Starting point is 00:20:50 like you'll see the sign and it'll have just the women, like the prostitutes that are there, but they're like dressed up, like they're all like, but there's like a big like LED sign. It's like Disneyland Hookerland. Yeah, but like it's them. It's like the ones that are there and like you go like disneyland hooker land yeah but like it's them it's like the ones that
Starting point is 00:21:05 are there and like you go like yeah yeah was there like a lot of homelessness there none right well they it's they have secret homelessness yeah they hide it they hide it so what they do is they have these uh internet cafes and they even have like hotels and stuff that are like they're like okay technically you have a place to stay yeah Yeah. So you can't be out there. I saw one person legitimately homeless the entire time. Wow. I've been, I follow this guy on Instagram where he,
Starting point is 00:21:32 I guess there's a lot of banded houses there that you could like, that are free. Oh really? If you want to just like set them up, but it's like expensive to set them up. So they're not free. Well, like the house,
Starting point is 00:21:43 the property. Oh, it's free, but you have to refurbish. You got to redo the house. Well, cause they're going through free? Well, the house, the property is... You have to refurbish the house. Because they're going through depopulation. Their birth rate is super low. Really bad.
Starting point is 00:21:52 That's why even compared to when I was there in 2019, they have way more immigration. A lot of people from other countries, they've been easing it up because they're like, our economy is going to go to shit. They built all these cities. They have all this infrastructure to kind of keep intact
Starting point is 00:22:08 that won't work if they don't have enough people. Right. Which, by the way, is kind of, honestly, it's a thing here, too. We're doing that. What, depopulation? Well, our birth rate for, yeah, birth rate for- I think everyone, dude, it's like handmade still.
Starting point is 00:22:19 But we're using immigrants to do, fill jobs, basically. Yeah, yeah. Oh. Yeah, man. The bars, too, they're like five five seaters too right like it's there there's a lot of small bars like hidden in like it's just it's just kind of just small everywhere uh but like but i love it so much yeah um like everything's just a little you know cuter i heard the jazz scene sick i was super sick yeah did you go to blue note i didn't because
Starting point is 00:22:42 all the shows were super expensive But I have a couple friends I went to Berklee There's a lot of Japanese students at Berklee Oh yeah? It's a huge part of the I didn't know that So I have a good friend of mine My buddy Zach Croxall
Starting point is 00:22:55 Shout out to him Sick bass player My old homie We hung out He's married to a Japanese woman Got two kids And he's totally Him and his wife are both full-time musicians.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And so he kind of sent me to some places and stuff. Oh, sick. Yeah. Who's that Japanese guitar player that lives in Boston? Berkeley guy. Oh, Tomo Fujita. Yeah. He's the man, dude.
Starting point is 00:23:16 He's the man. Yeah, I've been having conversations with him. I like him a lot. Tomo's great. He's a badass. Yeah. And the Japanese are really good at When they find a skill They hone it in
Starting point is 00:23:28 You take pride in what you do Americans don't do that as much Actually To be honest the reputation over there If you're an American musician And you move there They assume that you're badass We are pretty good here
Starting point is 00:23:43 These colors don't fade Legitimately I was talking to a guy there Assume that you're fucking badass. Yeah. We are pretty good here. Yeah. These colors don't fade, brother. Hell yeah, baby. Well, I mean, legitimately, I was talking to a guy there about it and he's like, he's like, America's a big country
Starting point is 00:23:52 so you can get, you can tour everywhere and get good because there's so many places to play just in your country. And they love our music. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:01 You'd probably crush it. Although, now the thing is, the kids are, the kids are into the K-pop, though. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude. They are here, too.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I know. Dude, K-pop is taking over the world. Dude, we should write a K-pop song. Yeah, you need to make a K-pop song. Tomorrow, let's write a K-pop song. We're going to write a song tomorrow. Do you want to hang out? Don't we have like four interviews tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:24:17 We have two. On the calendar, there's three. Oh, we have three. All right. Okay. Woo! Busy week. And I have another trivia tomorrow. Oh, yeah. Oh, with the C Okay. Woo! Busy week. And I have another trivia tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Oh, yeah. Oh, with the Cougars? I'm going there again. Oh, you're doubling up on the trivia? It's a private club where I do it all. Oh, nice. It's a private club. We went, me and Jeremy Sulkin went last two weeks ago, and it was just a bunch of hot
Starting point is 00:24:37 Cougs. It was awesome. They love trivia. They love trivia. And he does a little harder questions on that one. And I'm less funny there. Well, you're just trying to figure out what works. You're still new to the older.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Well, they don't like jokes there. They don't really get humor. They're there for one thing. It's not jokes. They care way more about winning. Give me the facts. Yeah, they care way more about winning trivia, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:02 It's weird. They want to know the score the whole time. I'm like, Jesus Christ, let's check your bank account bitch that's the score so what's the how do you keep people from cheating at the trivia um i just kind of like tell them if i catch you cheating i'm gonna fucking embarrass you online i will like you know what i mean i've never really caught anybody though i can tell like you could tell by the way people get stuff wrong yeah it's like most people don't want to cheat at bar trivia they're there have a good time and it's a very loser thing to do it's it's true i mean cheating at bar trivia. They're there to have a good time. And it's a very loser thing to do.
Starting point is 00:25:25 It's true. I mean, cheating at bar trivia is like, that's pretty low. That's low. That's the low life shit. It's worse than cheating in the election. God damn, I really want that $50 gift card. Speaking, hold on. Speaking of. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Hold on. I just, sorry. I just. Oh, shit. You need the money that bad, I'll just buy you a drink. I want to read this. All right. You can have it when I'm done.
Starting point is 00:25:44 I'll mail it to you. So excited. So two weeks. Was that long enough to be in Japan? Did you start getting homesick? I don't know if... I wouldn't call it homesick,
Starting point is 00:25:55 but, you know, definitely at a point there, I was like, okay, I'm definitely alone by myself. And, like, what... Do I miss... I wish I had my friends here.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Yeah. But then like that was about 10 days in and then like two days later, I actually legitimately like organically was like making friends. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:14 So. Oh, then you like miss them. Yeah, we've been like, stay like, we're all like follow each other
Starting point is 00:26:18 on Instagram and stuff and send them like, it's yeah, like legitimately, especially like through music, you know, it's like you're out and you're having a good time
Starting point is 00:26:25 How is there no cocaine or ecstasy in these clubs? They're just drinking and smoking at 6 I think that It's super, super fucking illegal Which, by the way Solves so many fucking problems We party way, way too hard In the United States of America
Starting point is 00:26:40 I want to clap to that Let's go Red, white, blue, baby America is drugs I know of America. I want to clap to that. Let's go. It's my people. Red, white, blue, baby. No, it's at a party. Like, America is drugs. I know. It's just drugs.
Starting point is 00:26:50 The whole thing. Yeah, rules. Maybe that's the song we should write. America is drugs. Like, no, but just like everyone's on prescription. Yeah, it's crazy. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Probably harder to get it in. It's an island. Like, you know. Well, here's what I... Everything, all the drugs are controlled by the Yakuza. Yeah. Whatever. Probably harder to get it in. It's an island. Like, you know. Well, here's what I, everything, all the drugs are controlled by the Yakuza. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:09 So, if you know, if you're willing to like go into those kind of spaces and do that, you can party and like, like that's, but I mean.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Who the fuck wants to do that? So, I mean, last time I was there I was talking to somebody and he's like, he's like, yeah, like I have a guy but it's like,
Starting point is 00:27:24 you have to know people For like six years Before they feel comfortable Like opening that up If you want cocaine that bad Just move to America Just get your visa And move to America
Starting point is 00:27:33 You know what I mean Note to self Google Meet a Yakuza Siri Send me to the nearest Yakuza hideout That seems safe I was talking to some Some guys that were there in the 90s,
Starting point is 00:27:46 and they were kind of ripping it more back then. What's the weirdest thing you saw? The weirdest thing I saw? Did you see the used panties vending machine? Yeah, they have. It's that, because I was in Shinjuku, which is that sort of famous prostitution area like the famous like prostitution like area. They have.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Yeah, they're definitely like, I mean, you know, I didn't like take a close look or anything, but you could see like. Craig is a safe space. Your girlfriend does not listen to this podcast. She's going to listen to this. I'm going to clip it out. No, no.
Starting point is 00:28:21 I mean, that's extreme. Yeah. That's extreme. I looked for the used paintings. I wanted to buy a couple just to stay at bottom. Yeah, just as a souvenir. I mean, that's extreme. Yeah. That's extreme. I looked for the used paintings. I wanted to buy a couple just to stay at the bottom. Yeah, just as a souvenir. I couldn't find them. It's like you have to go to a specific part of the city.
Starting point is 00:28:34 You should buy like 80 and make a quilt out of them. But it's so weird. Some of them have like, you can find some with like doo-doo stains on them or like period blood. Yeah, you custom. Not gross. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom. Custom.. You custom. No, they're all the same. You just pick your poison. I would be upcharging for different stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:52 See, that's where they're missing out. To be fair though, they have everything in vending machines. Everything. You can get anything you want. You can literally fucking, this is not a joke, you can buy a suit. It's amazing. Can you buy a vending machine in a vending machine? Because, you know why they...
Starting point is 00:29:07 That's a Mitch Hedberg joke. Yeah. I want a vending machine. Yeah. Yeah, because if they miss their train, they're stuck in Tokyo. So they just party all night. And if they have to go to work at 7 a.m.,
Starting point is 00:29:20 they just buy a new suit from a vending machine. I love that. That's amazing. Japan has it figured out. They have a little vending machine with a tailor. I mean, they have their problems, too. Like what? A lot of... Because they're not outgoing, there's
Starting point is 00:29:35 a lot of loneliness. It's a lot of people... Suicide's big out there. It's one of the highest, maybe the highest place. Very popular. They work people fucking Same thing as here, man Did you see the suicide forest? No, I was trying to have a good time
Starting point is 00:29:50 Camping We're really going dark now That's where they're having an electric forest next year Oh, fuck, dude I'm trying to get booked at an electric forest We are not talking about that A random festival. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Bro, if it's the Suicide Girls did a thing at Electric Forest, I'll give these. There you go. Wow. There you go. What a fucking life you're having. And so, what about, so the food was great, the booze was great, the party.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Did you get on, because you're a DJ, did you get on those mix tables? Well, I was on vacation. Like, it was legitimately I was trying to take a vacation Why did you choose to leave for two weeks? Were you trying to find yourself? Were you just burnt out like all of us? I was burnt out
Starting point is 00:30:33 And I also like Japan's a very inspiring place for me And I was really at an all time low for inspiration Yeah, I feel you It's amazing how vacation Just fills your cup 100% And it had been a really Really long time
Starting point is 00:30:48 Since I had gone on a vacation I'm trying to convince him To go on a vacation You'll be so much happier I'm happy as shit We don't know Yeah he doesn't He's good
Starting point is 00:30:54 I'm so happy You don't think I'm happy Well he bought a dog instead I got a dog I got an OJ book I'm living I'm living the dream brother I do need to go somewhere
Starting point is 00:31:04 Come on Let's go on a vacation together. He's like, that automatically makes it not a vacation for me. Come on, let's go sit on the beach. Yeah, me and you. I won't take my hot girlfriend. I'll take Andy Fresco. Hell yeah. I'll go on vacation with you.
Starting point is 00:31:22 No, we're going. I would go somewhere with you. Come on, let's get a group together Go back to Japan I always wanted to go to South Korea Yeah South Korea is dope Oh that's what I was talking about We were talking about how K-pop is really blowing up
Starting point is 00:31:37 Us five minutes ago Oh man my memory is going to hell. But I was hanging out with my buddy, John, who runs all the merch for the Eagles and stuff. And he said he had to run the BTS merch. And people were waiting in line for 10 days, not even had tickets to the show. What?
Starting point is 00:32:00 Just for the merch, because they did an outside merch. They love their merch. T-shirt's the new album, baby. It is. Oh, is oh by the way buy some merch i have like fucking 25 boxes you have good merch you have good merch thanks buddy what a tour we had that was a fun tour together oh yeah and they won the award for best opening band let's go thank you i've been waiting my entire they won the popular vote and they won the electoral college. We found out that Nick is actually a musician on the podcast. Just people.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Nick who? Me? I thought you were talking about someone else. Are you looking for another sax player? I am his manager. Do you need a third sax player in your band? I'm time to time. I think there would be a little redundancy between me and Greg.
Starting point is 00:32:44 We even kind of look alike I'm like fat Greg kind of You both have like Beautiful girlfriends Yeah It's tight Yeah What a day
Starting point is 00:32:52 How you feeling? Greg's a lot calmer than me I feel good I mean Well Greg got a big dick Have you seen it? He's a good
Starting point is 00:32:59 Like a good Yeah you could tell He just walks slow And just fucking has a Josh definitely Well you know Josh has a cock No way fucking has a swag to him. Josh, definitely. Well, you know what? Josh has a cock. No way that guy does.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Josh has a huge dick? Yeah. Josh Schwartz has a huge dick. He's probably still growing. Dude, yeah. I want that. Come on, give me the dirt. Give me the dirt.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Just years ago when I first joined the band, we got out of the van and he was peeing and it was just in a parking lot. You saw the shadow? No, no, I just heard it. I heard the... and he was peeing and it was just in a parking lot. You saw the shadow? No, no. I just heard it. I heard the... It was just the rate at which it was hitting the ground.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I just did the math in my head. Small dicks don't have that. No, exactly. It was just... It sounded like he's power washing a building. Oh, yeah. I've seen I've seen
Starting point is 00:33:47 How tall is he? Six, seven? He's a lanky white dude He's a Jordan height Lanky white dude Just got the fucking girth Yeah He seems taller than he is
Starting point is 00:33:54 Just because he's so like You know He's like got a big Yeah Totally His presence matches his height Yeah Two Cleveland guys
Starting point is 00:34:01 Yeah Well I'm not from there He's not from there No Why are you rooting for him? Family disease. Yeah, that's what we were talking about before. Just passed down from gender.
Starting point is 00:34:09 I was born in Ohio. Yeah, he's close. Close by. Finley. Nick's British. Yeah, British. Speaking of... So I like being British.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Doubting gummies. Do you eat edibles? I do not generally like them very much. Get the fuck out of here. Fuck off our podcast. No. I think they're really hard
Starting point is 00:34:33 to predict and control. And when I want it to be done, I want it to be done. I wish there was a, if they made another edible that undid your like, Ooh, the antidote. The antidote,
Starting point is 00:34:44 I would be super into it if I could just turn it off. Yeah antidote i would be super into it if i could just turn it off yeah that then i would be super into it because the thing is usually it goes on for way too long yeah stronger than i want but i did start messing with occasionally they have this like infusion powder which is just like they have it's called ripple over here cool and just like and then it comes in it's kind of it's kind of like liquid iv but it's just like a tiny little pouch uh-huh and it's like it's like comes in like five liquid IV, but it's just like a tiny little pouch. And it comes in like 5, 10 milligrams or whatever. And you just add as much as you want. So wait, do you dislike LSD then?
Starting point is 00:35:10 Because that also takes forever. You don't have to answer that. He's like, no, I love fucking it. I love tripping dick. Well, I think back in the day, it didn't last. I think it's because it's different now than it used to be. I think back in the 60s, because I heard from old cats that it used to go on for three or four hours.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Not as intense. Okay. And then because they made all this shit that they need to make the really good stuff is illegal, the precursors. They have to do way more chemistry now, and that's why it's like... Like meth.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Yeah. All the acid is actually meth. No. No wonder I love it so much. No. No, it is. It's way all the acid is actually meth. No. No wonder I love it so much. No. No, it is. It's way too long. Yeah, it's so long, man.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Yeah, way too long. I like mushrooms. I mean, you have to be in your early 20s at most for that. I don't know. I just, yeah. I was recording with Billy Strings last weekend, and we talked about meth. I mean, he used to be,
Starting point is 00:36:05 he used to do meth. What? When he was a kid, 16. What? I guess he, because he was up in Michigan and,
Starting point is 00:36:10 you know, right, just biker meth. Yeah, just, yeah, Michigan. Did he practice guitar a lot?
Starting point is 00:36:15 He told me this story the first time he took meth. He said he was like, he was like, he had a really hard life. Like, he lived like, he moved out of his house when he was 16.
Starting point is 00:36:27 He was telling me this crazy story. He said the first time I did meth, after he did it, he locked himself in his room, played the same lick for 48 hours. That's how you practice? Yeah, you hear that, kids? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Do meth. He got good. Do that, kids? Yeah. Do meth. You got good. Do you want to be good? Do meth. I mean, he's one of the best. That was literally my first thought when he told me that. I was like,
Starting point is 00:36:53 I bet he fucking practiced so much. He rips. Hopefully, he'll start selling some tickets this year. Keep an eye out for that kid. What are you doing in there? I'm just mething around. Just mething around.
Starting point is 00:37:05 But it's like You know It's like pretty wild shit dude Pretty wild Pretty wild I'm the best It worked out for him It did But he also quit
Starting point is 00:37:13 Way early in his life Oh okay This is done But like what a hard life Like I did meth once And I didn't You've done meth
Starting point is 00:37:21 Many times You live in Denver I just don't know you did meth Respect me But I did it once And I didn't. You've done meth many times. You live in Denver. I just don't know you did meth. Respect. But I did it once in Germany. I told the story once, but Craig. They haven't met in Germany? No, it's been a while. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Dude, I was in Germany. Dude, I was in Germany. And we were getting really popular in the beginning of the career like 10 years ago. And I got in the newspaper. And they're kind of fun with their years ago And I got in the newspaper And you know they're Like kind of fun With their words They called me
Starting point is 00:37:47 In the newspaper Mr. Human Cocaine Is coming to Bomberg Wait was that written That was written in English In No it was like No it was in German
Starting point is 00:37:55 But the translation was Mr. Human Cocaine Like he's hyper Right So I'm walking around the street I'm an Afro Jew Not you know Definitely a minority
Starting point is 00:38:03 Out there in Germany And There was like Mr. Human Cocaine And this guy Came up to me He's like around the street i'm an afro jew not you know definitely a minority out there in germany and uh there was like mr human cocaine and this guy came up to me he's like mr human cocaine let's do some cocaine oh shit and i go to this bathroom snort two lines and you're just like and it was meth right and i wish i could just sit in my room and play 40 hours of music. But instead, I was so horny. Yo. I woke up from the meth binge. It did last for 48 hours.
Starting point is 00:38:33 But I woke up. Two lines? Two lines lasted. You didn't go back? No. Whoa. Just two lines. That's good value.
Starting point is 00:38:38 But it was big lines. And that was when I was really doing cocaine. Like doing my name In coke I remember my 32nd birthday I took a picture and sent it to Sean I'm like is this a lot of cocaine Because I didn't know
Starting point is 00:38:54 He's like yes be careful I'm on my way But I woke up in a hotel lobby bathroom Like you know how you just wake up from a drug Come to maybe Literally? Yeah, come to. Literally. Because... You were coming to. I remember we were all sharing a room.
Starting point is 00:39:12 It was like a band-style room where there's like six bunk beds. And I knew everyone was asleep and I couldn't get internet in the room. Sometimes I'm pretty good at kind of beating off quietly. You're not that good. You're not as good as you think you are. No one's good at that.
Starting point is 00:39:27 No one's really slow and not shake the bed because I know Ernie's sleeping on top. Everyone who thinks they're good at that forgets the last two minutes. You're like holding your toes in. At that point, no one can control it.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Yeah, true. So I went to the hotel lobby because I knew the internet was working there before. I'm beating off in the hotel lobby bathroom. But my dick wasn't working,
Starting point is 00:39:54 so I'm just like, not Indian burning, just rubbing, just like two hands kind of like Indian burning my dick. Yeah, like, we can do this.
Starting point is 00:40:02 We can do this. And I was flaccid, just pulling rope, pulling rope. And I was in there for like 45 minutes. Nice. And I finally came, and finally the meth wore off. Because in my head, I'm like, just come and go to bed. Come and go to bed. I was like, in my head, I'm like, this sucks, 48 hours.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Well, dude, that was actually really good information. Come and go to bed is a thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a strategy. Yeah, but maybe if you spent... All the people out there having episodes on the street would be like, you just need to... Yeah, I looked at myself in the mirror
Starting point is 00:40:33 and I'm sweating and I'm breathing heavy. I just worked out. I kind of was. I'm like, I'll never do that again. You did cardio. I was sweating. I felt like I was skiing. Poor Ernie. But anyway, don't do that again. You did cardio. I was sweating. I felt like I was skiing. Poor Ernie.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Poor Ernie. But anyway, don't do bath kits. You were in the bathroom though, right? Yeah, but the hotel lobby bathroom. And it was like 6 a.m. So people were like, I'm in there. I get out of there. Going to German business meeting.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And I'm sweating. And people are just about to do the fucking continental breakfast. Dude, I was talking to... I'm not going to say who it was, but one of my buddies was like, we were talking about the long flight to Japan. He's like, well, you got to go bust one out real quick.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I'm like, jerk off on the plane? I don't know about that. And then, no, but then I was... Exactly, but then I was like... We were with a group of friends, and they were like, yeah, I've done that. Well, wait a second. It's a 13-hour flight. Have you ever gone 13 hours without jerking off? Here we go.
Starting point is 00:41:34 I jerked off in a plane. Oh, no. Oh, wow. Oh, my God. I never saw that coming. That's how you got upgraded. I got upgraded. Like, oh, we can't have this cum in the economy. But the group I was with, I was the only one.
Starting point is 00:41:51 I was like, I couldn't. You didn't do it. I have not. Some people are even afraid to take shits in the bathroom. No, I think it's so rude. I would never take shit. Both of those. You pee and you get it.
Starting point is 00:42:03 I kind of feel like jerking off. I'm really good at cupping my cum in my hand. I bet you are, though. And not getting it on anything. Try to be polite. Because I like to wear the same jeans and stuff a couple days in a row. It doesn't smell as bad as taking a shit on the airplane bathroom.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Anyway, what a podcast. I can't believe you. Is everybody having fun out there? Sometimes it's like I come and just acid starts burning My hand like Acid rain's back Acid rain Purple rain
Starting point is 00:42:32 That's how Two-Face became the thing Damn so people So you shouldn't come to bathrooms in the airplane I think you shouldn't I mean maybe I don't know maybe people I don't know People fucking them all the time
Starting point is 00:42:44 Yeah I know Depends on the fast all the time. Yeah, I know. I think it's rude. If the fast and see-about lights on, you can't do it. Yeah. You gotta stay in your seat and do it. I can't sleep sitting up. I gotta figure out a way to relax
Starting point is 00:42:59 because I don't want to pump myself with Xanax. Sounds like you do want to pump yourself. Sounds like that's all to pump yourself. Stupid. Sounds like that's all you can fucking think about based on the last 10 minutes of this podcast. I mean, I do have sex addiction. Pumped up dicks over here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:15 I was just thinking about this last night because I did a little cocaine last night. Buried treasure. I was in my bed. I'm like, why does this want me to... why do I want to fuck everything on this drug? Why do I want to have sex? Why do I want to have cum? Why do I have to cum?
Starting point is 00:43:30 I think it's because you have anxiety. It gives you anxiety, and that's what you release of your anxiety. Also, it makes you super horny. I never thought about that. Yeah. I think speed just makes you everything a little more, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:43:41 Except for being hungry. Some people don't get horny on it. Really? It chills them out. it chills them out. It's more revealing of your personality. You have ADHD. You need to go to a therapist. No.
Starting point is 00:43:55 They're addicted. Have you ever woke up super hungover and all you want to do is beat off? Yeah, or with the person you're with Or make love Because that's going to make you feel better Good for you
Starting point is 00:44:08 The soothing mechanism I need a girlfriend Sounds like you're girlfriend material right now Yeah right Who wouldn't want a guy who beats off After storing two lines of meth In a German bathroom Anyway, dialed and gummed
Starting point is 00:44:23 Guys grab some dialed and gum. That's what I was trying to get to. This is a perfect segue. If you don't want to get all methed out and you want to just chill out for a second, grab some dialed in gummies. They're the best. They're harmonized, like you said, so if you want to have the perfect dosage, all you have to do is cut it in
Starting point is 00:44:40 fours. They're regulated. They're the best. We love them so much. They have these new ones that I've been taking every night with the best, we love them so much They have these new ones That I've been taking every night With the CBD And it is fucking amazing I do too, I don't like getting too high off I can't eat a full gummy
Starting point is 00:44:55 I get really bad anxiety But these ones, I can control my dosage And The CBD The actual TC will get you stoned to relax you, but the CBD will keep you asleep.
Starting point is 00:45:08 That's why I like it. We love it. So grab yourself some dialed in. I take 30 to 40 milligrams a night. You fucking psychopath. How do you do that? Wait, are you serious? Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Oh my God. Him and Sean's wife, Sean Tobey has, we got her set up on the brand Tobey One Kenobi's and she has medical grains through each gummy is 50 milligrams. I don't know if you remember we did that gig in Columbus last
Starting point is 00:45:27 year and I didn't sleep one of the nights. Yeah, I remember. So I have insomnia and it really helps me with my insomnia. Okay, but there's also some studies coming out that say that THC works for me. But it can help you get
Starting point is 00:45:43 to sleep, can the problem is it doesn't let you get into your deep ram sleep as well it's better than not sleeping at all though but not to get obviously i don't want to i don't want to know i have that's why they have this thing bud that's what the cbd you beat off that's what the cbd does it keeps the cbd that's right yeah but i know that's true i do believe that because but it's still better than not sleeping at all it's kind of my theory yeah good point yeah yeah he's an insomniac but it's still better than not sleeping at all. That's kind of my theory. He's an insomniac. That sucks, man.
Starting point is 00:46:10 I wouldn't know what to do with myself if I can't sleep. I need to sleep. That drives me crazy. Every night for the last week, I've been awake. My thing is I fall asleep around midnight or 1. Wake up at like 3.30. I'm awake until usually about 5.30. But every day for the last six days, I've been awake from like 3.30 I'm awake until usually about 5.30 But every day for the last 6 days
Starting point is 00:46:26 I've been awake from like 3.30 to 6 Wow We were just talking about Apnea You're starting to snore It just started happening Is your girlfriend cool with it? Amazingly yeah
Starting point is 00:46:41 Like how bad is it? What if you're like you snore like this? What if you snore and you're just reading this book out loud if I did it yeah what if you're snoring what if you're snoring
Starting point is 00:46:53 you're scaring me just open the fucking door stop banging OJ please you'll wake the kids dude that's so that's so dark you're like that's your snoring
Starting point is 00:47:01 yeah you're snoring yeah she thinks you're snoring but actually honestly unfortunately that might be preferable Like Why did I load that on that soundboard I love this one
Starting point is 00:47:11 The beating off one Is she cool with you snoring So far but I get I mean whatever it works Like you know But like yeah I need to solve it So what's the deal you just started snoring in your life Are you drinking more than normal
Starting point is 00:47:28 I mean Denver yeah Well this town will do that to you I think it definitely affects it But I think it's like There's a whole You look into it it's just like overall health stuff Sorry this is a bummer
Starting point is 00:47:44 For everyone that's listening No it's just overall health stuff. Sorry, this is a bummer for everyone listening. No, it's fine. Okay. No, no, no. But it's on my list. I just bought the better health insurance. Let's go. Our boy's making money now.
Starting point is 00:47:57 You know, that Jerry Harrison money's finally coming in. You're like, let's go. How's that going? I love it, man. It's great. It's got to be so crazy to play with one of the lead guy the talking hands uh like besides the other yeah and adrian i mean it's yeah man it's it's a trip i mean uh especially it's it was it's been interesting too like
Starting point is 00:48:17 like because the the stop making sense just like they just came out of the theatrical release and like i'm going into the theater, and I'm watching it, and I saw it on IMAX, and I'm just like, I took a video and sent it to Jerry. And he's like, how's it sound? And I was like, it sounds amazing. I went to IMAX. It sounds great.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Yeah. No, yeah. A really cool thing happened where Chris and Tina, Chris Franson and Tina Weymouth, they came to our show in New Haven and sort of like gave it their blessing, basically. What? Tina Weymouth's the bass player? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:56 What about Bird? Did he give the blessing yet? He's happy that Jerry's doing... You know what I mean? Like, no, I mean, they use the official uh they're allowed to use it we're not allowed to say you know because it's like and that and that has nothing to do maybe with the band it's just so much like bands that are that
Starting point is 00:49:14 big like the protection of all right there's lawyers and shit get involved and who knows but like we use their official instagram like on the if they promote stuff it's on their instagram so yeah and like so dave's you know cool cool with all that like there and I think that you know I think he's uh thinks it's sick that Jerry's you know out there like establishing his own you know like reaffirming his like reputation yeah that's great well how how what a huge force he was especially in like that era of the band you know yeah no one realized that he is one of the guys oh hell he was also well and yeah i mean you watch him and bernie together like they were like brothers dude yeah they were so close and um he's also he was in the modern lovers too with
Starting point is 00:49:55 with jonathan richmond like he's a heavy heavy dude man the more the more i get to know him like he's really um just like i mean he he went to harvard and was like hanging out with like he's like this is very you know all those people are they're more like really smart than they are like you know like musicians really they're just like they're just like brilliant and they're obviously they're like good musicians and everything but like they're mostly just like smart and like artists what's the hardest part musically about that gig like um you know now that we've done it so many times i don't really i mean there's parts where i have to play just like in terms like physically like there's parts where i just have to play like super you know it's
Starting point is 00:50:32 frenetic you know really really like yeah like the like um the great curve is like we you know use the clothes to show with that and then that's like like and for like seven minutes wow that's like physically that's physically tolling but once you get used to it it was more in the beginning of listening to like all the different recordings and trying to like synthesize together you know from like the live records and and the the live band and like our thing and and sometimes you have to put like two parts together to make it work stuff like that that was the hard part more conceptually making studio stuff live yeah and and and and trying and picking choosing like which you know there's a million things on the records and like what's the you know the best part of the arrangement you know but um i love it man it's a really you know it's gotta be kind of
Starting point is 00:51:16 it's gotta be cool to get the after you're ripping a solo or something you see jerry or adrian like that's my boy it That's cool, dude. Do they do that? They're like, fuck this guy. Is that something Andy made up in his head? No. When it first started, I mean... Like a proud dad.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Well, Adrian... It actually kind of did happen where Skarek, obviously, was dealing with that back injury for a while. So, we were out on tour with Les Claypool and,
Starting point is 00:51:47 um, and with the Frog Brigade and, uh, you know, Greg is huge, Skarek, I mean,
Starting point is 00:51:53 who, who isn't, you know, he's like an amazing, amazing dude. So, Greg had learned, like,
Starting point is 00:51:58 all the parts to all the songs and, like, little by little, like, a couple shows in, he's like,
Starting point is 00:52:02 hey, you know, like, you need sex? Like, I know, like, I know some songs. He's like, what songs like you need sex like i i know like i know sometimes like what songs you know he's like all of them every single one i have a carnal knowledge so it went up and they were playing like that tune hender shot and he just like just completely like ripped it and the funny thing because they all wear like the
Starting point is 00:52:17 pith yeah hats you know like it's like and uh so he was wearing that and he just like and he just played his dick off just like played sick and literally adrian he watched the whole thing walked up and like gave him a big hug and was like he's like i have a picture of them together just where he was he did he was like a proud dad it's like i fucking love it yeah no it's it's i mean it's super special and cool i mean like early on uh you know adrian was like do you want to there was you should take the solo and like i took it and i did you know I played my thing And then he played And it was like a Fucking tornado
Starting point is 00:52:46 Like earthquake I was just like I was like Please don't make me play A solo before or after you But there is one tune There's one tune That's Jerry's tune
Starting point is 00:52:55 Where Adrian doesn't play And I take a solo on it Sick But that's the only thing I do in that Adrian's still badass He's still real Adrian's insane
Starting point is 00:53:02 Dude It's crazy It's unbelievable Are they in their 70s yet? Mid 70s Maybe 70s yet? Mid-70s. Mid-70s. Yeah, he just turned 74. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:08 We're about to announce a show. He's older than OJ. Older than OJ? Older than Bill Belichick? That's right. Yeah, and they're out there. Dude, once... Doing it.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Once... When you're of that generation, like those real rock and roll motherfuckers, it never goes away. Real rock and roll is out there. You know? Yeah, we're about to announce a couple shows with you guys.
Starting point is 00:53:28 We're playing with you guys on East Coast. Which band? Jerry and Adrian. Oh, okay. I didn't know. Hell yeah. Yeah, it was cool. It was nice.
Starting point is 00:53:35 You guys are the headliner, and we're right behind you. Oh, nice. Okay, cool. It was like a festival. That's good. We get to flip-flop. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:42 We're probably on different stages. Yeah, yeah. Or maybe you're playing one night, and we're playing the next night but either way it was really cool to see and like it made us proud like damn we're right next to the dudes from the talking house it was fucking cool um speaking of dates guys this is a very special time um yes we're taking the podcast On the road Yeah baby We're going on tour podcast tour
Starting point is 00:54:09 We've got some dope people set up We can't tell you yet I actually can start telling them Okay okay I don't know Maybe I'll bleep it out But guys we're going on tour Nick and I and guess who's opening Todd Glass the whole time.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Todd Glass is opening. He's doing 30 minutes. Hell yeah. 30 minutes? How much would you pay that guy? Not much. He's already rich. Not much at all. He's like, I'm doing this as a favor.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I'm like, thank you so much, Todd. It's going to be so fun. It's the best. It's going to be awesome. March 9th, we are at the Foundry in the Fillmore at Philadelphia, Todd. It's going to be so fun. It's the best. It's going to be awesome. March 9th, we are at the Foundry in the Fillmore Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. What's cool about this tour is we get to hang out in these cities for
Starting point is 00:54:51 two days. I know. We don't have to play any songs. Nope. Sean's coming and we'll try to get a house, man. March 9th, Philadelphia. March 10th, New York. We're playing at the City Winery in New York City. It'll be awesome. Is that in Manhattan or Brooklyn? Itth, New York. We're playing at the City Winery in New York City. It'll be awesome.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Is that in Manhattan or Brooklyn? It's in New York. Manhattan, yeah. And then we have two days off. Then we're going... I threw a curveball in here. We're going to Raleigh, North Carolina. They love us there.
Starting point is 00:55:18 They love us there. We saw the analytics, and North Carolina loves the podcast. So we're doing actually two shows there. We're doing an early and a late show. Nice. So that's March 13th. And then March 14th, we're going back to Ophelia's.
Starting point is 00:55:31 We're coming back to Denver. And that show is special because we are doing Frozen Dead Man Days in Netherlands the day after. So my band will be our house band for the Ophelia show. It's a big show. So if you guys want to go on tour, we could be your fish. Do every show.
Starting point is 00:55:48 We're doing Game Henge. Yeah, we're doing Game Henge. But then our guests that we have are really dope. I could probably say a couple of them. Well, just bleep it out if you can't. For Philly, I got... That did work out. That worked out.
Starting point is 00:56:03 March 10th, we have a comedian. I'm not going to tell you who because I don't know if I'm allowed to announce it. Comedians, they all of a sudden get gigs. Things happen. And then March 13th,
Starting point is 00:56:12 Raleigh, we have MC Taylor from His Golden Messenger and BJ Barham from American Aquarium. So it's going to be a very folky night because they both live there.
Starting point is 00:56:23 And then Denver, we haven't figured it out yet. Denver, whatever. We'll just get some DJ. No, it's good. We'll very folky night because they both live there. And then Denver, we haven't figured it out yet. Denver, whatever. We'll just get some DJ. No, I'm just kidding. We'll get Grizz. Hell yeah. He'll probably do it.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I don't know. We'll see. What about... You know who I'm trying to get for Philly? Jason Kelsey. Yeah. He can play saxophone. I know.
Starting point is 00:56:37 That's what I'm saying. He's from Cleveland. Tell him he can sit in. Yeah. Yeah, they're Browns fans. I fucking love him. Jason Kelsey is the... I've been on such a deep dive with Jason Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I've been watching all his clips, watching documentaries of him from like 10 years ago. He's going to the Hall of Fame. For sure. Is he really the best center ever? No, he's like top five. He's like really fucking good. I mean, that's still pretty good.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Yeah. I mean, durability is the biggest thing. To be a Hall of Famer at center is pretty wild. There's not like a ton of centers in the Hall of Fame. Right. Right. So grab your tickets of Famer at center is pretty wild. There's not like a ton of centers in the Hall of Fame. Right. Right. So grab your tickets, guys. The podcast,
Starting point is 00:57:08 we're taking it outside of Denver. Also, I had to plead Bongiorno for booking this tour, so please buy fucking tickets.
Starting point is 00:57:18 He's like, I'm putting my ass on the line here. He booked that for you. He booked the tour. What a fucking... Yeah, shout out to Bonjorno. Yeah, Bonjorno.
Starting point is 00:57:25 I love Bonjorno. Yeah, they booked that Bonjorno too. I'm like, we got to do a podcast tour. He's like, are you fucking high? I'm like,
Starting point is 00:57:32 look at all these, like Kill Tony, everyone's like doing podcast tours. Like, all right, I'll book it. Sell the fucking tickets. Put my ass out on the line
Starting point is 00:57:40 for you, Franco. They're not like, you know, they're pretty reasonable caps. Yeah, they're not huge. They're only, they're 250 caps. That's another reason you guys should get tickets fast
Starting point is 00:57:46 because these will sell out. These are going to sell out. These will sell out. They will sell out. No, they're tiny rooms. But you know, when you're doing something new, it's always scary. We did sell out Ophelia's when we first...
Starting point is 00:57:58 And the Raleigh one had 200 people. Yeah, and we're doing it at the Poor House, which is a cool room in Raleigh. I love Raleigh. So grab your tickets. Also, and we're doing it at the Poor House, which is a cool room in Raleigh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love Raleigh. So grab your tickets. Also, volume.com will be streaming the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:58:10 They're going on tour. We're getting a whole crew. I love this. Todd Glaz, we're traveling. We're flying everywhere and taking trains. Like, we're taking the train. Oh, we're taking the train?
Starting point is 00:58:17 Hell yeah. Yeah, New York to Philly. That's easier than driving. Hell yeah. Yeah, we're not taking them. We're just... The problem is we got to figure out
Starting point is 00:58:23 backline or something or my piano. But you got this, Bo. What backline? I mean, yeah. I want to're not taking them. We're just... The problem is we got to figure out backline or something or my PM, but you got this, Bo. What backline? I mean, yeah. I want to get my piano in there. I bet CD Winery's probably got something in there already. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:31 That'll be fun. Do it at the Baby Grand. So grab your tickets or if you're not, follow the tour because we're streaming everything on volume.com. That reminds me, volume.com,
Starting point is 00:58:40 our lord and saviors. Thanks for the money, guys. Thanks for the money, guys. And if you want to go check out live streams, go to volume.com. our lord and saviors. Thanks for the money, guys. Thanks for the money, guys. And if you want to go check out live streams, go to volume.com. They're the best. Or if you're a creator, get your stuff on volume.com. I'm telling you, I've been having meetings with them. I went to Nashville last weekend, the meeting of the minds.
Starting point is 00:58:59 I met the whole crew. I fucking love every one of them. We partied so hard. I didn't realize how many big wigs are in volume.com One guy ran Pandora radio One guy was huge In just Terrestrial radio
Starting point is 00:59:13 And the CEO It's a real company I'm like fuck This is fucking badass If you want to watch our video If you want to watch Nick's dog if you want to watch Nick's dog bark at Andy Westby. What's wrong with Westby, man?
Starting point is 00:59:29 I don't know. What's wrong with you? Come back up here for a second. Come back up here. Stay down there. We don't want our podcast. He's never done that to anyone else. Common denominator here. He just doesn't like Chicago.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Vibes are off. A fan who lives in Chicago but actually roots for the Lions. If he stops out there. He's from Michigan. He went to Michigan State. He's literally a Spartan. He is a Spartan.
Starting point is 00:59:58 People move after college, Andy. I wish I went to college. You didn't go to college. I went for a semester. San Francisco State. I do I went to college. You didn't go to college. I went for a semester. San Francisco State. Huh. But I do love that college experience. You know, I got jock itch at the... I hated college.
Starting point is 01:00:11 I got... Yeah, dude. My dick was... It ripped open like Freddy Cougar, dude. I didn't know that you could... You got like crotch rot? I got... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:20 I thought it was an STD. I was so nervous. But I forgot that I was using the same towel for days on end in a dormitory shower. And I'm like, why am I having scabs on my dick? This is so weird. Because you know when you scratch your dick when you have a scab and it kind of feels good? No, I've never had a scab on my dick. No, I've never.
Starting point is 01:00:44 I mean, I've had scabs on my dick. People are going to fucking hate this episode. No, they're not. a scab on my dick. No, I've never. I mean, I've had scabs on my dick. People are going to fucking hate this episode. No, they're not. They're going to love it. They love when we do this. We always think they're going to hate it, and then we get a million. Oh, my God, Frasco, you're fucking crazy. People love when you talk about jerking off, man.
Starting point is 01:00:57 I don't know why. Is that why you left college? I left college. You're like, I'm done here. This sucks. No, I really did. I left after that happened. I'm like, fuck this. Yeah. I'm just going This sucks No I really did I left after After that happened I'm like fuck this
Starting point is 01:01:06 Yeah I'm just gonna get an apartment In New York And uh Here I am Now I'm a musician You chose well You chose well
Starting point is 01:01:12 Um So head to volume.com Volume And uh Watch our podcast On there Everything's stockpiled And all that good stuff
Starting point is 01:01:20 And A lot of good episodes A lot of good episodes And we have I mean we have We're getting such amazing guests. Next week, we have Bruce Hornsby on the show. Hell yeah. He was a great interview. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Jim Norton. We have Jim Norton. We have Joe Bonamassa, which was surprisingly fucking awesome. Not surprisingly. I don't know. You know, we were talking about this last night about how all of a sudden everybody loves Creed. Don't get me started. We talked about this last week. We are everybody loves Creed. Yeah. And. Yeah. Don't get me started.
Starting point is 01:01:45 We talked about this last week. Oh, we are on the podcast. No, but keep going. I'm just saying, there's a thing, if you stick around for long enough, even if people,
Starting point is 01:01:52 like they hate on you and eventually they're like, why don't I fucking hate? Yeah, yeah. Because Creed's first album is pretty good. Yeah. But anybody,
Starting point is 01:02:00 they make, they make funny for so long that you actually love them. You gotta be relevant enough. I mean, dude, Joe Bonamassa is a child prod. Incredible. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:02:09 I just like, yeah, I mean, great guitar player. I was more like, is he gonna talk? Is he like, you know, he's like,
Starting point is 01:02:14 I've interviewed a lot of blues guys and they don't really talk. Yeah. He was talking shit the whole time. He was talking shit about everyone. It was fucking awesome. It was fucking cool. So you're gonna love that interview.
Starting point is 01:02:24 That was your Cat Williams. Yeah. And we got Jamie Hyatt. Have you heard her? From Nashville? It was fucking awesome. It was fucking cool. So you're going to love that interview. That was your Kat Williams. And we got Jamie Hyatt. Have you heard her from Nashville? Yeah. She's fucking awesome. That was Wyatt. Then we had the porn star turned DJ, Carter Cruz. Oh yeah, that's right. We met her on the Burr Cruise.
Starting point is 01:02:40 She was a fascinating one. Barack Obama. Then we have Michelle Obama. And then Barack. They wouldn't do it together. They wouldn't do it together. They're like, we want separate episodes. Then we have Michelle Obama. Oh, Michelle. And then Barack. We have Barack. They wouldn't do it together. They wouldn't do it together. They're like, we want separate episodes.
Starting point is 01:02:49 We want our own piece. And then we're going to read the Epstein client list out loud. Yes, we're going to. Before you do that, can I make a plug as well? No. Cool, cool, cool. Yes. We're going on tour.
Starting point is 01:02:59 We have our first headlining tour that we're doing. Let's fucking go. I totally forgot about that. That's right. Okay, so when does it start? It starts right after Jam Cruise. So that's the beginning. Sorry, I don't know the exact date.
Starting point is 01:03:13 I'll tell you. I think it's February-ish. It's 20th? I think it's the beginning. So they're on tour now. The beginning of March. Yeah. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:03:19 Sorry. I want to look. I'll look it up. Is it announced? It's announced. It's announced. Cool cool cool Tour
Starting point is 01:03:26 Yeah your tour starts March 5th At the Poor House A lot of Charleston's fans And then Lincoln Theater And then yeah So March 5th Through Damn it's a long tour dudes
Starting point is 01:03:37 Yeah I know Through March 17th And then you're doing April Yeah we're doing it man Going to bandwagon Oh man I am so happy for you Thanks man It's happening Yeah man I felt like it, man. Going to bandwagon. Oh, man. I am so happy for you. Thanks, man. It's happening.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Yeah, man. We're doing it. I felt like it was becoming a band when we went on tour. Hell yeah. It's really cool. Yeah, tours do that. Tours do that. You guys do it.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Definitely. So everybody buy... It's coolcoolcool.net, right? Yeah. Buy tickets at wearecoolcoolcool.com. Okay. He doesn't even fucking know. Great plug.
Starting point is 01:04:05 We have a website. Our guys learn Japanese while everyone else is working hard promoting that. I was like, by the way,
Starting point is 01:04:11 we got a record. No, they're going to hate me. They're all going to be so mad at me. Who's your manager in that vein?
Starting point is 01:04:18 They're managing themselves. It's just diffused. Save that money, baby. That's what I like. It's a very anti-manager talk. Save that money. what I like. Very anti-manager talk.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Save that money. Yeah, we'll have anti-manager talk off the air. So you're excited to do GM Cruise? Yeah, you know, like, yes, of course. I mean, I'm psyched that Remain Light is on the boat. Oh, wow. That's interesting. I think that's just going to be different from other stuff
Starting point is 01:04:42 that I've certainly done on the boat. And then people are, I think it's going to be special for that. I mean, it's like, I think it's just going to be different from other stuff that I've certainly done on the boat. I think it's going to be special for that. I mean, it's like, I think it's one of those things, I think it's going to be my sixth year that I've done it. I think people can get jaded about it because it's a long time out there
Starting point is 01:04:58 and stuff like that on the boat. I love it. I love all the different sets that you end up doing. Us and Cool Cool Cool and Rhymeopoulos on the band. Oh, his band's on it too? Damn, you're triple dipping. You making that money? Enough.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Enough to go to Japan. Yeah, because that Jam Cruise gets expensive. Dude, you start seeing that bill, all the alcohol. You're in alcohol prison. In that fucking boat. And everything else that's on that fucking boat.
Starting point is 01:05:31 I love the Jam Cruise. It's amazing. It's awesome. They never invite me. The best thing about it, because you're a podcast star now. Why isn't there a podcast on it? You could probably go on and do, honestly, trivia. Yeah, you'd be the perfect candidate.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Yeah, do trivia and also be artist at large. Yeah, Anna. Annabelle, I mean. Annabelle. Shout out to Annabelle. Thanks for booking all the hosts. The cool thing about Jam Cruise is even at festivals,
Starting point is 01:06:02 you don't really get the hang time. You get a couple hours of catering. You get five days with your boys. You're stuck. You are stuck together. Also, because of that, you don't really get the hang time. You get a couple hours of catering. You get five days with your boys. You're stuck. You are stuck together. But also because of that, you become a fucking degenerate, alcoholic fucking. I'm puffing cigs with everyone.
Starting point is 01:06:16 I'm ripping with, you know. No, there's no drugs on the boat. I mean, it's a very nice family. I've heard there's no drugs on the boat, actually. Oh, whatever. It's illegal. It's illegal. Oh, whatever, guys. It's a little rough that we're starting tour
Starting point is 01:06:30 right after that. Oh, my God. You go straight to Florida. That's the worst, dude. We always at least take two days off. I know. I think we're doing the Remain Light shows right after that. Then we hit the road.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Then you have three days off to get to Charleston. So that's good. So head on out. Honestly, go see Cool Cool. And if Remain in Light, his other band's on tour,
Starting point is 01:06:53 you should go see that because it's so fucking cool to see those dudes. Fucking our homies, our boys. Yeah. Fucking backup legends. Woo!
Starting point is 01:07:01 It's fucking tight. And shout out to Ryan Maplu band as well. Oh yeah. How was that tour? I love it, man. It's so great And shout out to Ryan Maploo Band as well Oh yeah How was that tour? I love it man It's so great Damn you're in like
Starting point is 01:07:09 Three completely different And you got your DJ there Yeah Craig No trivia though You are You're the salt of the earth You are a great dude
Starting point is 01:07:18 Let's go have dinner tonight Let's go do it Thank you for having me This is so great You having fun? I'm having a great time I'm glad you're in Denver Thanks for group texting us
Starting point is 01:07:25 that you're here. Yeah. It's really cool. It's great to see you both. And you know, it's like I love catching up with you because you like to talk. I like to talk.
Starting point is 01:07:31 We just talk. What about talk shit? This guy doesn't talk at all. That's not true. All right, guys. We love you. Yeah. Keep smiling.
Starting point is 01:07:42 I know a lot of shit's going down in your life. If there's stuff going down in your life, just know that we got your back. It's your fault. It's your fault. You want to give a motivation speech? Me?
Starting point is 01:07:52 Yeah. You got to love yourself. Yeah. Take time. Make sure you spend some time with yourself and get, you know, things you're uncomfortable about. Get comfortable because you're stuck with yourself.
Starting point is 01:08:04 So, love yourself, baby. Spend time yourself like Andy did in that bathroom in Germany. That's a callback. That's called a callback. Beat your meat. And never give up. See, I could have given up beating off when I had the jock itch
Starting point is 01:08:20 in San Francisco, but I didn't. I'm out there still beating my meat. And now he sold out Bomberg. And now he sold out Bomberg. Yeah, hell yeah. Now we're selling
Starting point is 01:08:29 10,000 tickets in Bomberg. Never give up. Never give up. Never give up on yourself and never give up on your meat. All right. God, that sounded great.
Starting point is 01:08:37 I'm not ending the podcast like that. Yes, we are. All right, goodbye. You tuned in to the World's Health Podcast with Andy Fresco. Thank you for listening to this episode.
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Starting point is 01:09:10 to see what's up next. Might be a video dance party, a showcase concert, that crazy shit show or whatever springs to Andy's wicked brain. And after a year of keeping clean and playing safe, the band is back on tour. We thank our brand new talent booker,
Starting point is 01:09:26 Mara Davis. We thank this week's guest, our co-host, and all the fringy frenzies that help make this show great. Thank you all. And thank you for listening. Be your best, be safe, and we will be back next week. No animals were harmed in the making of this podcast as far as we know. Any similarity, junctional knowledge, facts, or fake is purely coincidental.

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