Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 274: Tim Reynolds (Dave Matthews Band) & Pigeons Playing Ping Pong

Episode Date: June 11, 2024

Welcome, you beautiful weirdos, to today's episode; in which we dive * beak first * into yet another avian-themed band of heroes & freaks: Pigeons Playing Ping Pong! And more than just a band with a name that sounds like a Mad Lib experiment gone RIGHT, they're also our dear friends and old touring buddies, so we got a bunch of juicy catching up to do. Then, strumming our way into the Interview Hour, we got the interstellar, finger-blistering talent that is: Tim Reynolds! Tim can make six strings sing sweeter than a choir of Dave Matthews and sure does keep a clean house. Also! Dont forget that Andy Frasco & the U.N. are on tour in a town near you... www.andyfrasco.com/tour And guess what... now you can see a cool dog by the name of Denzel should you choose to watch this episode *exclusively* on Volume.com... now in color!  Generally speaking, we are psyched to partner up with our buddies at Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. Call, leave a message, and tell us if you think one can get addicted to mushrooms: [phone]  Check out our new album!, L'Optimist on all platforms Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out our good friends that help us unwind and sleep easy while on the road and at home: dialedingummies.com Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Arno Bakker Shawn Eckels Andee Beats Avila

Now, a message from the UN. wasted with you Let's have us some drinks and make glasses clink. I will be right here wasted with you I wonder if we should call your God and get high cocaine

But in the end we should get some food and go to bed instead Wherever you go, whatever you do I will be right here wasted with you Let's have us some drinks and make glasses clean I will be right here wasted with you. Let's start the show. Yeah.

Wow. And we're live. Andy Frasco's World Series Podcast. What an introduction for that. Andy Frasco. Here we are. The boys, the Pigeons Frasco Dogs Tour is in the fucking

building. Let's fucking go. Hey, let's go. We're back. We're back. I was wondering how long it's been since we've been on tour. I still don't know, but I bet you do. I figured it out. What was it? October 2018. Holy shit.

It's our six-year anniversary. Yeah. It's crazy because it wasn't the... I wanted to close that, Dave. It's crazy because it wasn't it... Oh, by the way, we have Pigeons Playing Ping-Pong. I didn't even announce. Pigeons Playing Ping-Pong is on the podcast today.

What? Honestly, I am so proud of this tour. I realized it last night. I realized it took... The first three days, it was always like a shell shock. Like, oh shit so proud of this tour. I realized it last night. I realized it took the first three days always like a shell shock, like, oh shit, we're on tour. Then the second week you get adjusted. And I realized how proud I am of this tour because like we could have done the festival circuit. We could have done that and said, we're going to put our confidence in ourselves and make kind of a mini horde tour. And we've been selling all our tickets.

How are you all feeling about it? I feel fantastic. It feels like we're doing festivals, but I have to remind myself it's just the three bands. I know. It really feels, it's interesting,

but man, it's been, I mean, crowds have been nuts. You've been there and like all the collabs and stuff. Yeah. Taking a page out of your book, just having everyone, a little controlled chaos.

Oh, dude. And you've been quarterbacking it so well. When there's three bands on stage, it gets a little chaotic. But I've been re-listening to all the tapes. We're all listening to each other. What do you think, Jeremy?

I know you're a stickler for sound. I think it's been awesome. Really impressed of how it's turned out. Even in the moments of chaos, it somehow works perfectly. What about you, Ben? What do you think? Yeah, I mean, I'm having a good time. You did put a nitrous tank

in my bunk bed and froze all my memory foam. I'm still gonna... Is it still frozen? Yes! Yeah, well, you know, I was just trying to... Sleep in like a rock. Well, you know, I was just trying to... Sleep in like a rock. Sleep in like a rock. Sleep in great.

I figured you like to chill. I do. Yeah. I lost my watch, though. Do you know where it is? What kind of watch is it? Omega. Omega?

No. You know what I do? What? I get a cheap watch that looks expensive. This was 36 bucks on Amazon, somewhere around there. And I love it. Call it. Call it. Call it.

If anyone knows where my Omega watch is, please bring it back to the bandwagon. Is that a big boy watch? That's like the real deal? Yeah. I'm not a watch guy. Yeah. I fucked up.

I don't. He blew it. I blew it. But I think it's in the van. It's in the bus. So you got like a weird voodoo doll in replacement though. Does that come from shows yesterday?

Or that was it's dirty it's dirty it's like gross it's a doll and it's disgusting yeah so actually pretty good i love doing tours like this you know it's like we're it just makes our friendship closer you know normally it's in and out and we actually get to like chill you know there's no pressure on the hang because there's the hang tomorrow. And now we're kind of like relaxing into ourselves a little more. And we're like, you know what? We're a family.

We're soaking. Yeah, we're edging. Well, yeah. We have time to edge if we wanted to. That's the thing. How are you feeling about it, Gator? I feel fantastic about it. He's just soaking.

It's been great. It has like an old school feel, you know, like those old tours where you see the bill and there's just, you know, multiple bands on it. Plus, we've been having after shows, so it's literally almost been like four bands every night. It just has a great, great vibe just put on a full show.

Yeah, plus you get an Omega watch out of it. Were your fans nervous about this whole thing? Because I know you guys normally play two sets and stuff. How was that interaction with having us on the show? Were they excited? Was it nervous? Bring them in.

Let's bring in the fans and see what they think. How are you doing? We have Susie from New Jersey. Bring in Susie. Hey. I don't know. Frasco's set was too long. I need more pigeons.

I need all my pigeons. I always worry about that when you tour jam bands, especially three, where now you're only really playing hour 15, hour 32. When you normally play, what, three-hour sets? Three-hour shows, really. But, I mean, this has been awesome. The way I describe it, it's like

between the three bands, it's like one plus one plus one equals five. It's just the secret sauce. Then you have all the dogs coming out, and I sat in with you. I don't get to sit in a lot. You asked me to join, and Ben was crowd surfing. Have you gone up yet, Jeremy? Yeah. Yeah. We got to do another one.

Yeah, do some more. Yeah, I like doing slow dick in the headliners, you know, one at a time, you know? How do you like touring to the potential of like more repeat fans as the tour goes on? Like is this causing you to spice it up? I fucking love it. Yeah, dude, you guys,

I told you this yesterday. I'm like, hey, we were both supposed to play some days last night. I'm like, hey, I realized I played it here three months ago. And what did I say? You were like, you had like one Native American tier come out of your eye like, I'm so proud of you.

I am. It's incredible. No, but it's great. It's getting me on my toes. I haven't had one single same set on this whole tour. Which is awesome. Is it fun for you? Yeah. It feels like I have confidence.

I realize we have a lot of songs that are strong now. You've been writing your ass off. They're getting better and better. You have these different songs. Some days it's that beautiful valley in the chaos, but you also have other songs

like Iowa Moon that does that too. You can serve the set with different options. The sets have been killer bud likewise dude i watched you guys last night that was really special i just like you guys a really good fucking band and i always knew that but like i haven't really haven't seen you for like six years and like you guys have grown so much it makes me fucking proud dude i'm like I'm not even blowing smoke up your ass. Like, the band is really fucking good right now, boys. Thanks.

Thank you, man. You've been working your ass off. You fucking deserve it. Like, I saw you on the side of the stage, and I just have to like remind myself not to like perform to you because I was just like, oh shit, Andy's ready. I was like, yeah, dude. I kissed Ben on the mouth last night.

I'm like, you did kiss Ben on the mouth. I forgot about that. How'd that go, Ben? You now have herpes. It's HPV, okay, Jeremy? It's not herpes. I unfortunately forgot to stick my tongue in your mouth to discourage you from ever doing it again. That ain't going to scare me, bro.

You put that tongue right down my throat. I'll just bite it off. I'll be deep in it. That was the first inter-band kiss of the tour. It was. We almost had one backstage with Ben again and your tour manager. That was so awkward. I just stood there for no reason, and he

came in like we were going to kiss, and I was like, oh, right. Bo's got voluntous lips. He's got luscious everything. But Floyd's your favorite to kiss. Yeah, because he plays like he's hard to get, but when you kiss him, it's like, oh, he wants to kiss me. Yeah, because he plays like he's hard to get, but when you kiss him, it's like, oh, he wants to kiss me. Yeah, that's the secret sauce.

That's exactly what you did when you showed up on the side of the stage. That's why I picked my battle. If I did that in front of you, if I did that with you, you'd be like, get the fuck away. Well, I'd have to explain it to my wife immediately. I think CeCe's cool with it, honestly. Yeah. I think so.

I mean, we do have the same hair we do so Andy doesn't think he can grow his hair longer and I also didn't my hair was also like Q-tip, Brillo pad, Corey Matthews from Boy Meets World you know and I didn't think I had it in me but you just gotta let it keep going it just drops

I was like no it's not meant for me. It's not going to happen. It did. I got a question. That's true, actually. I want to grow my hair out, but I have a question for Gator. All these guys are married, locked down.

Yeah. What's up with that, guys? This isn't what I signed up for. How is single life being the only single man in Maryland? Are you having fun? Are you enjoying yourself? Are you masturbating more? What are you doing?

What's happening in your life? I'm always enjoying myself. You know that. No, it's... Do you get lonely because all these dudes are married and shit? Yeah, I mean, from time to time, but I'm good, brother. Hold my hand while you talk to me like this. I got my drums. Yeah. Got my

car. I heard you've been doing movie night. Late night movie or like old school movie night. He does. I got the time, brother. I got the time, brother. Last tour, we were doing the Kung Fu movies with music and seeing if it synced up, like Dark Side of the Oz and everything.

Yeah. And it did. You got to bring that back. Yeah. It did sync up. It's fucking awesome. No, it's been good, man. It's pumped to still be able to play with these guys.

It's just been fun. You know, we just got kind of off a little refresher period where we were still working. But, you know, from shows, it's been a minute. So that's also why this tour has been just... Yeah. It feels even like, you know... It feels like you guys are really gelling. And everyone's like the camaraderie feels good how do you guys feel about it yeah man it's uh we're a family you know it's um something we actually

like kind of work on like make sure that we see the big picture because you know touring is so much fun but it's also long days and in the summer it's long hot days and so like day one's good but by day five and you're tired and you don't sleep well on the bus or whatever you start to like that's when you find out everyone's true colors and i know like i could be a grumpy asshole who's the grumpiest i used to be i think i might still be but i know i know uh i know if i'm tired just like don't speak and that solved it don't speak You know just what you're saying. I used to call him G-Mo in college, I believe. Why?

G-Mo, Moody G. Oh, you were that moody? Yeah, I've put in a lot of work, Andy. I really have. Having a wife helps with that, too. And then kids. It was only mornings? Nothing will test your patience like young kids.

What about... Has Jeremy ever just blown up on somebody? Don't piss me off, Andy. That's why I'm afraid to drink your dark lagers. You can have my dark lager. I gave you permission. If the other guys touch it, oh man.

What happened? We'll get into that. We don't talk about it anymore. We don't talk about Fight Club during Fight Club. What happens that time? I got a weird jam bang question for you. I rewatched your answer story of your set list and we did tub thumping. Yeah.

And that was fucking awesome. But I like how you noted this is the first time we played this since 2018. How do you decide when to bring a cover back? It's almost random. Really? You know, sometimes it just pops in one of our heads. We're like, hey, this song just, or someone heard it on the radio. We'll be like, all right. It's back.

Tub Thumb had just played. I think it's time. Yeah. We talk about Tub Thumping once every four months. And especially with the group and like it kind of like this the setting and stuff dictates it like thinking of you guys screaming along with us it was just like a party like oh this is the one yeah you know the other day we were at saranac brewery and we were like oh we should play beer by real big fish which we played

one time 12 and a half years ago but he's wanted to play it ever since then. Like every year for, for over a decade, he's like, let's play beer. And we finally did it because we were at the brewery. And that's also why we played, um,

we were in Utica where Mo is front and we were thinking about them and all they've been going through. So we played a cover of theirs and that, so it kind of like gets dictated that way. They say Saranac, Saranac in that cover, which was really cool. Saranacac brewery so sometimes it's that and then other times like you know like you said you were going to play some days and you realized you played it last

time you were in town so we're kind of aware of that so like if we pitch a cover idea hold on let's just check the history make sure we didn't play that by chance the last time we were in you know whatever so you have like it's like how what are your what do you use like a program that tells you each set when you played it or what what do you have uh it's just like a note stack oh my god archaic i'm trying to get someone to build me in a set list app i have it all figured out dude if someone wants to do it we just we just bought. We just bought the program on Freeze Uses. And it's sick. It's like, I got it. Ask Sean. It's like 300 bucks a year.

Is it like ghost something? Is it ghost set? But yeah, you could check every city. How many times you've played a song. It's like, they have this down to the science. I got to get you that content. Those guys got it all figured out. I know. So here's what we're going to do. You're going to give us some of that dialed-in gummies money, and we're going to buy...

Is that still a sponsor of this show? It's not. Actually, they stopped sponsoring the podcast. All right. Is volume still in? Volume. All right. So you're going to give us some of that volume money,

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Turn it up. Return it up. If you want to head to volume.com, watch all the content. And because you remind me, they pay me, so I have to talk about this. And our podcast, we have all archived on our podcast. So head to volume.com. The best live stream business in the building. I know you guys are nugs guys.

Let me tell you this one about volume.com. The people there are nice. They're sweet. Not saying that the nugs people aren't sweet, but why don't you share the wealth, okay? This just in, Andy Frasco hates nugs. I mean, I don't hate them. Just start paying me.

Just start paying me. Yeah. And I'll love it more. He's in it for the paper. I mean, you know, I'm in it for the paper. You're in the wrong line of business. Yeah, true, true, true. When do you guys have time to write new music?

You guys are always on the road. We just wrote something at Soundcheck. Really? A part of a song. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of a song. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of our songs are just kind of, we feel it out and jam into it. We practice usually twice a week when we're home.

Really? Yeah, see, we all live in the same city still. That's sick. So we practice regularly. Where do you practice at? Oh, my parents' basement. Let's fucking go. Jeremy!

It's great. It Jeremy! It's great. It works. It's perfect. Have you... Really pumped about that. You've been rehearsing in your parents' basement for your whole career, haven't you? Post-college. Post-college, yeah. Over a decade. The amount of money they've saved us in practice space... We met and jammed for the first time

in my college basement. Jeremy's tone, he used the same stack that he uses now. And I was upstairs. I wasn't sure if they had a bass player because his low end was so sick and it sounded awesome. So I was like, do they have a bass player? I was so nervous just hanging out. And then Jeremy invited me down and I was still nervous.

So we were just like a duo for a while. And then we had a drummer play with us. And we found a friend with a drum set in a basement who happened to be Ben's roommate so the three of us were jamming or was Alan there too on keys? I don't remember, maybe we were jamming downstairs just to make more noise and stuff and Ben just walked downstairs

and picked up the bass and like you know, quietly joined the band I was going to go back and forth I was like, should I go down, should I not I was going back and forth. I was like, should I go down? Should I not? I was talking to my friend. I was so nervous. And I was actually nervous to the point

where when we first played our first show at Santa Fe Cafe, I didn't know if I was playing a wrong note in one of our songs because I never was brave enough to play it loud enough. I was like, it's too late now. I can't say anything. I've been playing wrong notes since day one. Oh, my God. So have you ever had times when you're just rocking out so loud

And the neighbors of your parents Like any like bad You know For all the years I've been playing there You know never Never You know We don't play late

I mean we used to play late But yeah it works really well And you know We'll like often come in with new song ideas Before practice I mean, we used to play late, but yeah, it works really well. And we'll often come in with new song ideas before practice, be like, hey, wrote this, maybe we all give it a shot, and we kind of all learn it. And we kind of send it to each other in advance, and then he'll send a part out, I'll sing on it at home,

and then when we get to practice, we're already rolling. That's fucking hilarious. It was one of those lemonade out of lemons for the pandemic. We started using a program that will let us share our files on Logic, and we were able to write without being together, and that helped us a lot even when we started seeing each other again. What's that process?

There's a new app now. It used to be Splice, and the new app or program is Seshie. What you do is you save your Logic file and it uploads it to a point where you can open it up on your computer and it's as if you see their exact Logic file. It's like a shared document.

Sick! It's kind of like Dropbox for bands. But it loads it up for you instead of having to get each individual part. So Jeremy will write a bass line and I'll listen and try out a different thing and he'll say, oh, I like how you did this,

but this needs to go with this guitar. It also saves all the versions that you've done. Jeremy's original idea will come over and then maybe I'll sing on it or rearrange something. If he didn't like that rearrangement, the OG file is still there and my one and the next one that gets edited. You could add a little note like initial vocal ideas or whatever. You can throw a bounce on there so you can just click it and play it that's fucking insane so like out of covid came like this entirely like just because we had to when we couldn't meet up in person we ended up with this like process to write more music quicker like out of it it was pretty unexpected yeah everyone talks

about the downsides of covid but there's also some good things that came out of covid you know besides like the people dying and shit, but like the technology that came out with like how we can approach writing if you're not living in the same town. Like I need that because my whole guys don't live in the same town. Yeah.

Like I think about you and with your drums in your apartment. Have you ever got some complaints? Yeah. Well, I eventually had to start renting a practice space. Really? Yeah, I mean, it's just a plate of a drummer. Oh, my God.

And I got a great spot. Tell them a little bit about your upstairs neighbor. What happened? Oh, I had horrendous neighbors. If you're watching, you suck. Yeah, fuck off. Fuck off. Suck my dick from the back. Don't let my boy Gator...

Don't ruin my boy Gator's vibe, okay? No, they would just stomp the floor and had a bunch of crazy dogs and kids running around. What would the dog do? On the deck, what would he do? He would just piss and shit all off the deck onto my deck.

Oh my god. So it would be raining piss. Eventually I just the deck onto my deck. Oh my God. So it'd be raining piss. Yeah, eventually I just started playing drums in there because it became an all-out battle. Crazy stuff happens to Gator. What just happened that you told me recently? Oh yeah, someone was getting on the phone when you were trying to...

Who was that? Check into an appointment, yeah. She was just looking at me while on the phone the whole time I had no idea whether she was talking to me or not and then the boss is like hey you on the phone she's like no shoot her out right in front of me

yeah the weirdest stuff happens to him it's so funny poor guy I mean you do have a Porsche you can just drive out there like Batman it's like I'm out zip away and I'm gone I love that you have a Porsche. You could just drive out there like Batman. It's like, I'm out. Just zip away and I'm gone. I love that you have a Porsche. It is the bachelor of bachelor thing ever.

I can't even picture you driving. Do you have a car? I have a Cayenne, a Porsche Cayenne. He's got a Porsche. Oh, yeah? Oh, shit. But my dad got it for me. Okay, my dad.

I lost my virginity in that car. Oh, really? When I was 17. To a teacher? No, a pregnant woman, actually. Oh, a pregnant woman. Whoa. Oh, a pregnant woman. She was eight months pregnant. That's very pregnant. Yeah, she was like my best friend.

And her baby daddy was like being a dick. Enter this guy. So I was like, hey, Andy, we just have sex so I can feel something. It's good for you to have sex that late into pregnancy. It was weird. I mean, every time

I open the back seat, you know, like what do they call that? Like the woo. Her ass? No. No, the back of the car, the SUV. The hatch. The hatch?

The hatch. I think about that moment. Dude, that's crazy. That's so fucked. Shout out to Megan. I'm still her friend. They call me Uncle Andy. Yeah?

Oh my God. Oh my God. Well, their kids just found out. Because daddy wasn't there. They're there already now? Yeah, because they're 18, 19. Oh, wow. Right.

That makes sense. Come on out to a Frasco show. Anyway, Jeremy's disgusted by this conversation. I fucking love it. Andy, you work your ass off. Yeah. And I think people don't realize.

They must because of all the content you put out, but what do you do just for chilling besides things out of the industry? Do you have hobbies that people would be surprised that you do? Are you just a total workaholic? I'm a total workaholic, but when I'm really just digesting and vegging,

I love documentaries. I will watch documentaries all fucking... I just watched the Martha Stewart documentary. Oh, yeah? Bro, that is the baddest bitch on the planet. Snoop approves. Dude, she was a gangster.

She was like a stock. She did stocks and stuff. Do you know Martha Stewart's story? She was such a beautiful woman And she was married young But she was a badass She was doing all these stocks And then she just understood the stock market

And then she wanted to be like a Catering company And then it built out from there And then she's like She got too cocky And then she started selling stocks Like inside trader shit and then she went to jail but that's like shout out to my bad bitch martha we love you martha she should have

been a uh congresswoman because then she you can insider trade without any consequences so that was her big mistake exactly do you guys have hobbies like what do you do i would i i mean i read a lot actually yeah and i was just telling you i've got really into glue the fuck this is the weirdest shit ever i've got you're into glue like huffing sniffing like sniffing glue it just smells good i've just tapped into the the wonderful world of adhesives okay i explain i love it when my wife breaks something uh so i can fix it so like my God. So like I'm fixing, she just broke this like ceramic elephant. I was like, I got you.

You know, like lamps, lampshades, random things. But then I got this, my wife has this like cast iron, like bird hook thing from her grandmother who passed away and I broke it. Maybe this is what- On purpose. Yeah, on purpose to see if I could put it back.

So I tried to glue it with like some Gorilla Glue and stuff and it worked for a day. I was like, I fixed it. She's like, oh good. And then like walked downstairs, just like fell off again. Hold on. You got to backtrack a little bit. What is it about glue that gets you rock hard?

I'm thinking about, I've been talking to my therapist about this. And I like being in control. And about this and I like, I, uh, I like being in control and in this world, there's a lot you can't control. Enter Andy Frasco and your ragtag bunch of maniacs. Um, so I like being able to go down. It's just me and I like fixing stuff. It's very satisfying, you know?

And I also think like my dad was, great at a lot of things. He was not Mr. Fix-It. So it was cool for me to, like, try something that, like, you know, the next generation of my family and my kids can learn to, like, just fix things instead of, like, throw money at it and hope it gets fixed. So it's really satisfying. Yeah. And, like, I can kind of see that because you already see the finished product because

you've seen it forever. So it's kind of like a jigsaw puzzle in a way. Well, there's this thing that the Japanese do. It's called like Kinsari or something like that. And basically, they purposefully break pots. And then they use gold in their gluing or whatever to put it back together. So when it is together, you see all the cracks in gold. And it's like a metaphor that like, you got to like, you know,

life isn't perfect and it's actually in the defects that make it beautiful. And like the way you've gotten through something. So it is nice to, although I don't like seeing when I can see like a little glue. I'm like, fuck, that's not clean. Do you guys have that same philosophy in your jams and in your songs? Do you like the imperfections? Sometimes. I wouldn't say we like the imperfections, but they're there. Yeah. Well, maybe that's why it's a hobby.

But that's what the scene's about. It's when the jams get a little tumultuous and tension rises and then we get out of it. That's like when we're all... That does make it sweeter. I've never seen you flop a jam. We were from the Miss Frizzle generation

where you're told to get messy and make mistakes. Yeah. And I eventually figured out that there's other aspects too, but I do appreciate that approach where walking is just falling forward and catching yourself. Yeah.

So making a mistake, as long as you're learning from it and growing, that's my philosophy. But the beauty of us all is that we're different. That was philosophical as fuck. They call me Phil-o-sophical. Phil-o-sophical. Officially.

What about you? I know how your brain works. Really? Can you tell me? Oh my God. I can just see. You're a perfectionist, right, Jeremy? Unfortunately.

So what do you see in the sets that you feel that aren't perfect that drive you nuts mainly like when i play a note that just is not what i meant to play yeah i'll be like oh do you think about it will not make you sleep at night um i've learned to get over it you know it's you know i'm not like world's best guitar player i'll make mistakes It's alright But I still don't like when I make mistakes And you know I'm okay with mistakes

Mistakes happen It's when I get upset If someone's out to lunch If you're not paying attention You're just not with it Not in the moment Who's out to lunch the most? We all do a good job of staying

Bad? We all try to stay in the moment You know, a jam is improv Anything can happen in improv And sometimes a mistake can lead to a really cool moment Whether that was the intention or not Dude, you gotta get into gluing Because

Dude, so got to get into gluing. I'm telling you. It's great for... I consider myself a recovery perfectionist. I'm obsessed with fucking adhesive. Listen, you can't get it totally right. You can try it, but once you're done gluing, it's not going to be perfect, but you've done it.

It's no longer in pieces. So back to this cast iron bird thing. So it split open. So I got this thing called JB Weld, and it's like welding glue. There's two different things. You mix it together. You got to use gloves and eye gear and shit

so you don't fuck yourself up. But boy, is that sucker not broken anymore. And it was such a win. Oh, my. What if you get it on your hands and shit? Or like on your skin? I was very nervous. You're supposed to wash your hands for like 15 minutes straight.

I was concerned. That's the one thing. If I show up to tour and my fingers are stuck together, I got to find a new hobby. Like maybe glue sticks, not that strong stuff. What if you forget you have some glue on your hands? You're like petting your baby. And it's just like, you some glue on your hand. You're like petting your baby and it's just like I'm petting my baby.

Did you say petting your baby? For those who don't know, Andy doesn't have kids. Although I'd be lying if I didn't say I pet my kids. I just thought about that. I guess babies aren't like animals. I feel like you could like pet a baby and shit. The last time we were on

tour, we had no babies. And now this band has five. I know. It's insane, dude. It's like a 180, but I still got my boy Gator. I got a question. Do you feel like we were going to party? We're not partying as hard as

you thought we were going to do. What's your take on... Or do you think we're partying a lot on this tour? You tell me, man. You're the one who says, I feel like we're supposed to say no comment. I was going to get drunk somewhere. We did that one night when you

walked into the bus. You're like, what the fuck? This feels like summer camp music festival. That was a hilarious night. We had a great time. We were vibing. People are getting it in. Well, we have those late nights. So that was also part of it

because we have our music festival, Dome Fest, and we took a year off. So like you said, this is like a traveling festival. Plus we added late nights at most of these shows and we have craft vendors out in the crowd. So we're trying to bring that festival atmosphere. And with that comes some late nights. But I think what makes it less of late nights is bus calls always at 1am or 2am. So we're like, we could finally

push our way out. Cause normally if we were just staying in town, we'd be just at the after party and then are at the bar until 4am or whatever. And going back to the hotel, all jacked up on cocaine and shit. You just find shekels. You just find echoes streaking downtown. We're going. I don't like you, man. You're crazy. You're the clawed into the gymnasium. The door, man.

Your team is incredible. They are such pros. Yeah, herding cats. But sometimes it's like, are they going to be okay tonight? And then they're like, Jesus, they rise from the dead and bring the magic to the people. Well, guys, we're halfway through the tour. I'm so excited.

I really do love you guys. I love you too, man. This is such a dream come true. And I've always wanted to do this, this fucking tour with a band that we, that, you know, I respect the fuck out of you guys. You guys are a good band. And it's even better that we're like we're friends you know you can respect someone and not be their friend but like we've gone through the trenches together you have seen we've you see we've both seen each other rise you know and we've seen you literally rise every night on your damn stair master on that fucking

thing or jeremy we'll get you on a solo we We'll rise up. Oh, I would love that. Hey, can I borrow your helmet? Yeah, but you need the GoPro on while you wear it. Oh, wow. Well, I love you guys. Come out to the Pigeons Frasco Dogs Tour. Honestly, it's a great time. We're all just friends. We're just having fun. Ben crowd surfed

and slam dunked a fucking basketball last night. We're cooking. We're cooking with cannoli oil. We might even bring a little glue into the cannoli oil. What's that mean? That sounds good. That's a nice Italian pastry. Oh, really? Yeah, they're great. They're great. You shoved one in your

mouth and tried to kiss Floyd with it on his birthday on stage last week, Andy. That's what that is. That was a cannoli. Sometimes my last three brain cells just don't know what to talk about. I know. I stand next to you with the VIP thing and you're just like, talk about out to lunch. You're just like...

Yesterday's VIP. I kept hitting you. I wasn't even thinking anything. I was just staring in the blue. We were mid-conversation and he just looks off. And then he answers like, oh, $36 for those? Cool. Nice. I got fucking elbowed

by Greg. That's why I stand next to you during the VIP. What were you talking about when you got elbowed? Oh, nothing. I think Greg was just talking to me about something. And all of a sudden, I just hear I just start staring.

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I genuinely love it. And the fans love it. You get to know who you're playing for. I fucking love it. It puts a face to the fans. So grab some VIP. You want to see us at 4 p.m. in the afternoon? You want to see what we are during the day? We got to get the fuck out.

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Nice bus It's a nice bus It's a nice bus with green flames on the side Yeah, it's got green flames And it's got Yoda themed I'm like Whoever owned this is a fucking cool dude Alright guys

Tim Reynolds is on the show From Dave Matthews Band You're gonna either think This interview is insane or you're going to love the genius of it because he was vacuuming his whole time. He was vacuuming his house saying, I got to clean, I got to clean.

And if you're going to watch the video on volume.com, he basically thinks that the video is a phone. So all you see is his chin throughout the whole thing. I think you should watch it. It's a work of art. It's a spectacle because Tim Reynolds is a fucking genius. He's one of the greatest guitar players out there. I would love for him to just rip it up.

Dude. That Dave and Tim live album is amazing. By Luther College. So good. Thanks, boys. I love you. We love you, buddy. Let's go kick ass out there. Let's go fucking kick ass. Ben, let's kick ass. Gator, I love you. Pigeons Frasco Dog Store continues.

Love you. Tim Reynolds. Wow. The goat is on the podcast today. A prodigy. How you doing, buddy? I'm doing all right, man. Where you at?

Well, I'm at home in Florida right now. Oh. To stay in the house, I have a vacuum cleaner that, you know, one of those little robots. Yeah, yeah. His name is Harold. I named him Harold because there's a genesis song from foxtrot record it's really kind of goofy called harold the barrel so i named our little guy harold burrell although he needs some assistance with a person doing some other vacuuming because

he's only you know gets around certain things because he's a round little thing that hobbles around the floor. He gets stuck once in a while. If he tries to go under the couch, he'll get stuck. Or if he tries... That's Harold.

I was doing some vacuuming right before you called. Is it weird being home for traveling so much your whole life? Do you not know what to do when you're home, or do you enjoy it? Well, I guess because I'm so used to going and coming home, going and coming home, I think I'm used to it. I mean, I could just be clinically insane and don't notice how weird I am. Which is very possible.

Yeah. I don't know. You sound too self-aware there to be insane. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. What about, you know, because you're an army brat. So, like, you've always been on the move.

So, maybe, like, your brain is always your whole life. Like, you've always been more comfortable when you're moving, going to different places and stuff. I guess. I mean, I'm pretty much liking it where I am now because this is the warmest place I've ever lived, which I really like. So I don't see me wanting to get away from here anytime soon unless some abrupt change in my thinking occurs. You never know. But for now, I'm really digging it.

I mean, I was just up in New England on TR3 tour and even though it was cold, you know, it's very nice. I mean, you just gotta bundle up. I had to go get coffee one day. It was so fucking cold. I put on my jeans and my sweatpants over my jeans

and it was good to go. I love it, man. Players, baby. I love it. So how, do you still enjoy touring? Is that something you love doing with TR3? I enjoy all of it because touring is kind

of the it can be the hard it because you know touring is kind of the it can be the hard part because you got to travel but when you get to play music for me anyway however hard that can be and it's not always hard maybe

never that hard I don't think you're so used to it to be able to play the music is just too good you know I can't if. You're so used to it. To be able to play the music is too good. I can't. If I stopped playing the music, that would suck. I could see if I get really old and I just can't do it, I would still

play music. I just wouldn't be on the road. I'd just play around town or find places to play. While I'm healthy and I can do it, I just enjoy or find places to play. Because I've done that before. While I'm healthy and I can do it, I just enjoy playing all kind of different places. Often you play somewhere you've never been before. I played... I can drop F-bombs here, right?

Of course, do whatever the fuck you want, bro. I played fucking Hazard County where the Dukes of Hazard came from. fuck you want, bro. I played fucking Hazard County, where the Dukes of Hazard came from. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know what I got for playing this little tiny, really tiny little place? I had a picture of the stage. It's like

I'm all like newers, but it was so much fun. They gave us, all in the band, a big certificate that's like hard and legit with a stamp that we are Dukes of Hazard.

That's cool. That's cool. I have documentation to prove it and I can show you my ID. I'm the Duke of Hazard. So that's playing music for a long time

And all of a sudden you become a Duke Of Hazzard when you're 66 Years old I mean that's some shit man Do you think rock and roll keeps you young Tim? Definitely Yeah Has there ever been a moment in your life

Where you're just kind of over playing music? Oh, God, no. I mean, once in a great while. It hasn't been for a long time. You can just... When I used to really do so much on my own, you know, just crazy. I would come home and not really not want to play, but just need to die for a while. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, but I don't do that hard anymore. You get older and you kind of find ways to do it. It's a little smarter. So you're not, you know, too tired.

Yeah. Is it, is it weird to, you know, do these big stages with Dave Matthews and then come back to doing like Dukes of Hazzard stages? You know, it's not weird at all. I love it.

It's like you're grounded. Those kind of rooms are great because you're in a room with people and you can kind of see them all. They're right there. In front of you, there's no vast distance out from nowhere where there's a sea of people there's no vast distance off from nowhere

where's the sea of people it's a different thing but i've let go of how that feels you know what i mean right it's kind of it's a perfect world in its own way so it's playing a big places but you know i like that i can do that you know i mean i You have to work hard because I'm always touring. Trying to take breaks between it. I just did a three-week tour. And that kind of was in the middle of a bunch of other stuff. That was good. Yeah.

What about, how do you like going to Mexico with the crew? Oh, it's great. Always great there. Are you close with Trey and Estagio? Do you guys have a relationship? No, but we hung out more there than we ever had before. It was really cool. What was it like? What's it like? I mean, I met him before, you know, just really quickly when he would sit in, you know, years ago. Or, you know, just really quickly when he would sit in, you know, years ago. I mean, we were Dave and friends together.

So I've definitely hung out with him. So it was great. He's the sweetest guy in the world. And it was fun to, what do we do? We worked on some songs that we were going to play just for that gig. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it was fun to sit down with that gig. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it was fun to sit down with guitars and work on Cripple Creek.

I saw him on the piano, too. Yeah, he played some piano, yeah. On one song, yeah. That's cool. Have you ever gotten into substance abuse like Trey did? What kind of substance are you talking about? Cocaine, heroin, what do you got? Give us all the stories.

I never did heroin. I think some way back in the 70s somebody gave me something to snort that might have been kind of like it, but it definitely wasn't. I've done all the drugs, but I do smoke weed and

drink alcohol now, and that's a safe thing, and if not, just don't do it too much. Right. Everything in moderation. But yeah, when you're younger, you kind of try to go for it, but then you don't really need to go for it when you're older. You want to play music, really. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When did you first find out that you fell in love with music?

How old were you? Jeez. Well, I can tell you the first time that my shit was lit up. Because my, you know, we had one of those fucking sixes. We had those kind of stereos that were like a piece of furniture, you know, like about four, six feet wide to two feet deep kind of a stereo. You know what I mean? Big ass piece of furniture.

And my mom and dad listened to gospel music at a relatively mild volume. One day when they were gone, my sister put the Beatles on that stereo and cranked it up. And I almost cried thinking about it. I jumped up and down like this, what the fuck? Because it just was rock and roll at the correct, loud enough to feel it and that was it, boom. You know what I mean? I started playing air guitar. I had a toy guitar with strings on it, but I couldn't play it. I just took the strings off and played air guitar for years. It was always with me. When a song came on, I had to have it, like, you know, an air guitar to the Beatles or whatever.

So that was my jam. And then, you know, I started playing guitar. I had Uncle Bill show me some chords. And then once I kind of knew how to play, I really wanted to dive in and really know how to play. I played bass for a while. I still consider myself a bass player. The bottom line at heart, because that was my instrument. When I had piano lessons, I didn't really play well.

And I was kind of, what's the word? I really wanted to play guitar, and I was kind of... What's the word? I really wanted to play guitar. So I had piano lessons, and in spite of myself, I learned something about music that's tangible. Not like I can play piano, but just how music can be put together. What'd you learn? I can't remember. Basic structure kind of stuff?

Yeah, yeah. But then I played guitar a little bit and Uncle Bill showed me that. And when I played guitar with Uncle Bill, I wound up playing a low note and I really got the idea I should get a bass. And that was a revolution

in my musical development because the bass just came to me. I was was done i was all over that man i spent a summer learning how to play bass by learning all the bass to like two or three korean funk records that bass player is badass yeah and then barbara cartney as well uh so i got schooled on bass one summer, and that was kind of my doorway into all the other things. Once I played bass, I was like,

well, you know, I can do some rounds on a bass. I can play guitar. Let me do that on a guitar. I was just like slowly kind of all bled into itself. Well, so I got to sit down and I had a sciatic leg and I shouldn't pace. I got to start vacuuming soon.

I'm supposed to be vacuuming. That's for sure. Before she gets home. So I got a question. Was music a way for you to like, was it lonely growing up as an army kid? Because you're always away, you're always moving. You couldn't really connect with friends because you'd be moving to the next town.

Was music a way to make you feel less alone? I guess because I never had a problem being alone because I was alone a lot. But I also had friends too, you know, when I was a kid in all those places. In Indiana. Well, in Indiana

I was way, way young. And we lived kind of on a farm. So my friends were probably my cousins at the time. Yeah. So when you finally decided to move to Charlottesville, were you hanging out in Millers? How did you meet Dave? Was it at Millers or where?

Well, the first thing that happened that I met everybody pretty much in one fell swoop, as it were, I got wind of at the C&O, a jazz workshop. And at the time, I was really notating and playing. I was a jazz mofo on guitar, at least that's what I thought I was. I was a jazz mofo on guitar, at least that's all I was. But I never really had a lot of experience, except a little bit when I was in St. Louis with a jazz vocalist. And, you know, that was a great education. So I did have a little bit of experience. But I came to this workshop and Lil Roy Moore was the emcee.

Wow. And also playing. And John Durth was there and a lot of people that i went on to play with i think carter buford was playing the drums yeah uh you know i mean it's pretty much like this was way before dave was in charlesville but it was all the cats and that were hanging out john dearth the trumpet was there so i kind of met everybody like then, boom. And I was still working at Kmart as a job job.

And for a while I kept up that until through slow connections in town with different people I started figuring out I could play so many gigs a week and count on that, knowing the scene.

Wedding gigs. Millers. I finally was able to drop the Kmart. And just play music. And I remember that day. I remember the lady who was kind of the boss lady. When I was leaving. She said you know.

You just don't know what you're doing with your life Tim. And I just thought to myself. Oh I surely. Definitely do. Yeah, it's not going to work. Why was she saying that, though? Well, because I worked there, you know, and they always want to keep their employees.

I probably was a good employee. I worked in the door department. And so, you know, they always want to keep you there because it's in their, you know, interest to have people working there. And I'd been there for like a couple years, you know, so I was a, whatever interest to have people working there. I'd been there for a couple years. I was whatever a guy that worked there. It's pretty amazing. Was TR3 happening back then? Were you having your own band yet?

Or were you just gigging around solo playing with everybody? No, not at all. TR3 was like a... When I worked in this band called Cosmology with John Durst on trumpet, Robert Jaspain on drums, John's wife was a singer, Leroy played with it sometimes. kind of be the bass player the drummer myself started doing these trio gigs where we play some jazz but then we play some kind of you know police covers instrumental and i would sing some shit you know like a blues robert craig had a song back then at least it was like up tempo so anyway we started doing it like that. And then I started writing more music. That's kind of how it started. And then over the years, I moved to different places and kind of moved so far that it was hard to kind of keep it going.

You know what I mean? Yeah. And so coming out, The Outer Banks is where I met Mick and Dan. And that's when I started playing with them. Did you like The Outer Banks before I met Mick and Dan. And that's when I started playing with them. Did you like the Outer Banks? Did you like living in the Outer Banks? I did. But after a while,

it's kind of, you know, I just wanted to go somewhere else. Yeah, I hear you. And then, was Charlottesville the first place you really felt like home? I guess, you know, because there was

a very developed music scene that was very accepting and that's probably the first music scene that had a bunch of people in it as a group

in an area that, you know what I mean? Yeah. Worked together. So yeah, that was pretty great. I have to say. I heard this great story of you, you know what I mean? Yeah. Worked together. So yeah, that was pretty great. I have to say.

I heard this great story of you. You basically, Dave wanted to play with your band, but you kind of encouraged him to start his own band. So you're basically the frontier of the band. He owes you a lot of money. He owes you a lot of money. True. I mean, at the time, it seemed like, oh, you know, I just felt like he,

if he came in my band, we'd do a lot of you know, I just felt like he came in my band. We do a lot of my music and he would kind of slowly get integrated. I felt like he he should start off boom with his own thing because it was already so developed. Right. You know, and he I don't even know if I knew he played guitar yet. I heard him play some stuff on piano and I was like, he's a great songwriter. And then, yeah, I didn't get that he played guitar right off the bat. And then I heard that and I was like, oh, damn.

That's a unique style and rhythm. Yeah. I think that would be like his first interest. Exactly. Oh, yeah. What was the first song you heard of Dave that you knew he was going to be a great songwriter? I'm not even sure. Maybe what would you say? Something like that.

One of those first ones that are like that. Was Miller's the hang? Everyone talks about Miller's as the hang for all the musicians. Was it? It definitely was. Yeah, it definitely was. It's not there anymore? I don't know.

It's still there, yeah. Oh, it is? Okay, yeah, yeah. And it's probably still a hang for younger people, yeah. Oh, yeah, I used to smoke cigarettes on the top floor. After Jefferson Theater? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I love it.

So when did you start touring? When was it you really started taking touring and taking this whole thing out of the local town that you're in? It must have been really in earnest when I did the first tour with Dave Acoustic. I actually did a little bit of touring with the band earlier on, but

it was too much at the time. They would just tour all the time and I did it for a little bit and I said, I can't really do this. I'll play on the records, but I wasn't ready to be on it for a little bit. And I said, I can't really do this. I'll play on the records. But I wasn't ready to be on the road so much then. Of course, now I kind of am. But I kind of worked my way into my own kind of comfortable way to do it.

And how long did it take for you to learn the comfortable way of touring? Oh, half my life. Really? Like six or six. Well, maybe to do it so that it's I don't know, maybe before that. I mean, I'm comfortable with it now. You know what I mean? I mean, except for I have this sciatica, which makes everything uncomfortable if I walk too far. Mine is kind of daily.

But I'm going to have to go in a minute because I have to finish vacuuming I'm supposed to be vacuuming man alright no problem my curious question is with all this pain you're going through how hard is it to tour now? is it hard to sit in a van or a bus

for a long time? it depends I try to figure out ways to make it more comfortable. You know what I mean? Yeah. And there's ways. I'm just constantly trying to figure out a way.

I take walks, but I have to stop every so often and find a place I can sit. And then it kind of... When I sit, my leg kind of comes back to not hurting so much. Right. And after that, when I sit, my leg kind of comes back to not hurting so much. Right. And after that, you know, if I sit and breathe like 30 breaths, that's a good break.

And then if I stand a couple times between that and just stop for a minute, you know, it kind of takes, I have to learn how to do it. So I've learned how to do it. That's fucking awesome. I'll let you, I got one more question. I'll let you go vacuum, bud. Sure.

You know, when it's all said and done, you know, what do you want to be remembered by? They could play guitar really well. I guess that's about all I can expect. Yeah. And maybe if they like some of the songs,

cause I really like writing songs. I'm a crazy, like writing songs more than, I crazy... I like writing songs more than... I mean, I like playing guitar, but all the things I do are songs that I play on a guitar. And then there's obviously improvising over things, which is also a different element.

You know what I mean? That's not songs, but you create in the moment, and that's a great... It's a really great thing to do. You know what I mean? Yeah. What do you like better? Improving or writing? They're both kind of necessary. It's like when you talk

about breathing, you have to breathe in and you have to breathe out. That's an analogy I will use because they're both... It's just kind of life for me. If something happened, I couldn't do one, I could just do the other, I mean, it's just kind of life, you know, for me Yeah I mean, if something happened, I couldn't do one I could just do the other

I would do that But I would choose to currently It's really good that I can do both Some of the best writing starts with improv, too Some of the best songs come out of James Oh, all of it, just about, yeah Do you got one more question for Tim Before you guys go back?

You have such a unique style on guitar. It's so individual. I'm just wondering, who was your main influence that made you... Why are you so much different than every other guitar player? What was the impetus for that? Well, I can tell you what got me into playing kind of the way I do playing solo acoustic. Years ago, and he's still

around, I'm sure, a fucking great solo jazz guitarist named Tuck Andress who played with Tuck and Patty. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He did a solo record that was killer. That record

made me want to do that. Except I thought, well, I'm not going to copy him and do it on electric. I'm going to definitely look into playing bass rhythm and all that on the same time, but on acoustic. And I'd also, years ago in jazz, there's a guy named Joe Pass and a couple of other cats that they play strictly jazz, but Joe Pass is magic.

He's the man. That's kind of the first guy that really got me into doing that. And then Tuck Andrews came along years later and said, hey, you can make it funky and slap it. Right. And play cool tunes. So that's kind of been a slow development, as it were, of all those things. that's kind of been a slow development as it were of all those things. And I'm still trying to learn how to, you know, do more stuff, not necessarily more notes, but just conceptually, you know, musically.

Do you think, do you enjoy your acoustic shows more than the full band stuff with Dave? They're both really great. I mean, acoustic shows like when you play by yourself, that's very fulfilling in a way, but it's also just really great to play with another person or a group of people

because that just brings in all their energy and it's like, you know, that kind of interplay. Yeah, it's beautiful, man. Well, keep the dream alive. We'll be rooting you on, Tim. You're the best, man. Hope you get that house clean. Yeah, wrangle that vacuum.

Yeah, wrangle that vacuum for us, buddy. What's his name again? What's his name? Howard? Well, Harold. He runs around the house by himself getting stuck places. He's not flush. He's just a little... I can hear him.

What note is he humming at right now? Well, actually, let me go see. I bet he knows. Where is he? He's not at his little place. I bet he knows the note.

He's shy. He's camera shy. He doesn't know about this podcast industry. It's a new world for Harold. I don't know where he is. He's camera shy. He doesn't know about this podcast industry. It's a new world for Harold. I don't know where he is. That's a mystery. He doesn't do press, okay? He's probably stuck somewhere, but I don't know. He's at Starbucks in the direction of the radio. Well, I'm going to go find Harold.

All right, buddy. Well, enjoy your day. Thanks for sharing some time with us. Keep the dream alive, bud. We'll be rooting you on. All right. Thank you so much. Later. All right, buddy. Well, enjoy your day. Thanks for sharing some time with us and keep the dream alive, bud. We'll be rooting you on. All right. Thank you so much. Later.

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