Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 277: Andy Richter (The Tonight Show)
Episode Date: July 2, 2024A very special episode straight from the heart of the Volume.com! studios: we got all the Nick & Andy balderdash you've come to love and expect. But most importantly, on the Interview Hour we got a co...medy legend, actor, and the textbook defintion of talk show side kick- Andy Richter! Find out what Mr Richter's been up to since making television history on the greatest of all late night talk shows. Also: congrats to our boy, Pizza Steve on becoming a father! Happy to have that lil garlic knot in this world
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Now, a message from the UN.
I am Pizza Steve!
Pizza Stevie needs new glasses
And maybe some driving classes
Pizza Stevie is to blame
He loves looking for cocaine.
Andy Frasco yells at Steve.
But he can't afford for him to leave.
Lindsey thinks he is the man.
But we got him jerking in the van Oh lord, yeah
Hey everybody, how's your hearts? How's your minds?
Welcome to Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast. I'm your host, Nick Gerlach.
I can't believe we're doing this.
We're switching because...
He's sitting in my chair. Everyone who's...
I like this chair, by the way.
It's a nice chair.
It's small.
It's small for the optics.
We're live in the volume studio, aka my house.
Nick is sitting in my chair because we have
conan o ex conan o'brien co-host and andy richter on the show so we thought that nick as this is a
co-host type of show then nick would run the show today so i have to run the show i just want to sit
in the chair and see what it's like don't't touch any fucking sound boards. Don't touch nothing.
I mean, try.
I mean, you talk about it all the time.
I think one time you were trying to clap for someone and you did a masturbating sound.
I did. I did. I do fuck it up.
It was Sister Mary Lawrence.
Hello, Nick.
How are you?
Let's talk about your weekend.
Oh, you want to go right into it?
Yeah, I missed you.
I'm just kidding.
You do kind of miss me these days.
I have to say this when I'm in this chair. It makes you more
sentimental and emotional. It's the chair. It's not
anything.
All of a sudden, I'm like texting
my parents back.
Yes, I'll call you on Father's Day
next year.
The weekend was good.
I went to Idaho. I had fun.
Oh, wow. Great story, man.
I don't like sitting here. You don't want to switch back? I want to switch. I had fun. Oh, wow. Great story, man. I don't like sitting here.
You don't want to switch back?
I want to switch back.
We tried.
That's actually funnier.
Actually.
God damn it.
I'm such a narcissist that I can't even
sit in the right chair.
If I'm not sitting in the right chair in my own
fucking show, then I'm like freaking out. The reason I switched is because I told him you look fatter in right chair. If I'm not sitting in the right chair in my own fucking show, then I'm like freaking out.
The reason I switched is
because I told him you look fatter in this chair.
I do. I feel fatter
in that chair. It's a fat couch. It makes
everyone about 10. The couch adds 10
pounds. What's up, Nick? How you doing?
Hey, hey. We started
from the bottom and we're fine.
I'm doing good. We interviewed Andy
Richter and that was so fucking rad.
I love those guys, man.
He had so much to say.
He's just like smart, eloquent speaker.
Yeah.
Handsome guy.
He's handsome.
Still looks great.
Still looks awesome.
And he's funny.
And we were making him laugh,
which I'm like,
I think we're funny.
I think we're funny.
I can't wait to check out his call-in show.
Yeah.
He has a call-in show on Sirius XM.
We talked about that.
We talked about,
we played fuck,
marry,
kill with Oprah,
Jay Leno.
Yeah.
We won't tell you who we wanted to kill,
but I think you already talked about him working with Conan.
We talked about his own TV career.
I loved his show.
Andy Richter controls the universe.
Yeah,
that's good.
My theory is that show would have,
I didn't get to bring this up. I let the pass like he said yeah and uh i think because both times they put it on it was a mid-season replacement do you know what that is no it's
like when they cancel a show that's not doing well and they stick another show in the place
but they don't get the promotion really that the ones that are being premiered do
and that's i didn't know that both of it, that's how it was introduced.
Weird. So I think that it was a funny show.
It was cool. He kind of had this
metaphysical thing going on. It was cool.
Cool. One of those Fox shows, you know?
Oh, cool. What was it called?
I think Andy Richter Controls the Universe.
Something like that.
Awesome. He seems like a great dad, too.
Yeah. He is a great dad.
You getting ready? Your album comes out soon.
Going great. It's got a million streams already.
It's on every editorial playlist.
So you're telling me you're
firing. I'm going to be opening. You're quitting.
Hell no.
I ain't never quitting this shit. It's too fun.
It's my therapy.
It's fun. I was dreading
because I haven't done interviews in so long
that I'm always like this. but I don't do something for so long.
Yeah.
I don't want to do it.
Oh, I get that.
I was kind of like that before.
I hadn't played saxophone in a while when I traded licks with Carl Denson.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
I was like, actually I was surprised how well that hung in there.
I was like, maybe I'm just that good.
No, I'm just kidding.
He was kind.
You get that? Like, you know, it's like the same thing with me with the gym. Like I'm just kidding. He was kind. You get that?
Like, you know, it's like the same thing with me and with the gym.
Like I'm afraid to go to the gym, but once I go, I'm going to be addicted again.
I just realized that no one gives a shit about you and no one's actually looking at you and
they're all obsessed with themselves.
That's the thing about the gym.
It's like, yeah, because everyone wants you.
All these guys.
Well, I think it's just the routine.
I like a routine of habit, you know know like I'm getting really into the songwriting
process and writing songs being a musician
that I'm like forgetting you know
I'm a decent podcast host too
yeah you're good at it and Andy Rickard's just a good
interviewee yeah I guess
I guess I we found
this out I'm opening for Bert Kreischer
yeah well you just did I just did
yeah but how'd that go no it was great
great million streams I recorded this the day before I left for the Bert Kreischer show in Arkansas.
So I'm kind of nervous about it. I think you're going to be fine. I don't know. What are you,
let's talk about this actually. Why are you nervous? I don't know. I've never played acoustic.
Me and Sean have never played acoustic for 17,000 people before. First of all,
it's a comedy scene. And we went to the Kreischer cruise was, you know, wasn't acoustic for 17,000 people before. First of all, Sean. It's a comedy scene and we went to the Chrysler
Cruise was, you know, wasn't there
for music, but there's a difference though. They're already
good. They don't, there's not like a second stage for this.
Yeah. Everyone is there for that. It's going to be either
held captive. Sean
perfect guitar player for this. He plays
acoustic five days a week
when he's on the road, right? Entertains people
really well. He's got the energy to like get
it across for that many people.
We should get him ripping solos.
People like your songs.
Burt loves you.
Therefore, his fans will love you.
Right.
They love what Burt loves
and that's why they're cool fans.
Sure.
They trust his taste
because he does have good taste.
He does have good taste.
He has great taste in comedians.
Yeah.
And musicians.
I went and saw him at...
Yeah, that's pretty good.
I went and saw him at Comedy Works.
It was pretty wild.
Oh, yeah. You went to the Comedy Works show? There was only like 400 people there him at Comedy Works. It was pretty wild. Oh, yeah.
You went to the Comedy Works show?
There was only like 400 people there.
It was cool.
It was packed though, right?
It was sold the fuck out.
Was it like his fans or was it Denver people?
No, it was his fans.
Sick.
It was cool because it was all like mostly the stuff we saw when we went to see him wherever
that was.
Longmont or whatever.
Yeah.
But it was like pared down.
He's really, really streamlined it. I think he must be getting ready to record Longmont or whatever. Yeah. But it was like pared down. He's really, really streamlined it.
I think it's, he must be getting ready to record a special or something.
Yeah.
It's probably good to do like a smaller crab when you're getting that shit ready too.
You got to make sure it gets across everywhere.
Oh yeah.
That's why I like, I did a songwriter round with Steve Pultz.
I'm like kind of getting ready for this.
We're about to announce I'm, I'm, I'm doing a solo tour with a bigger band.
I can't say yet, but I'm kind of just getting
my chops up just playing solo
just you and piano
it worked
I got a standing ovation on a couple
songs I put in
last minute from old songs
like I got a standing ovation
from none of those things
that song not about the money
oh yeah so I like soloing on that one. It's a good one.
I was really surprised about that.
That's the one me and Carl did.
I tested out a lot of the new songs for my
brand new record.
What's it called? The Pessimist?
The Pessimist. The Pest.
I don't know.
Dude, naming an album is
so sucks.
Just have AI do it. Here's my last four album titles. Pick got a name. Dude, naming an album is so sucks. And it's like just have AI do it.
AI do it? Just be like, here's my last four
album titles. Pick a new one and
tell them what your album is kind of about.
It'll give you like 10 options. Really? It might give you an
idea to jump off of. Okay.
What's the worst? You don't have to tell anybody
you did it. Well, we're talking
about now. They're not going to know if you actually did it or not.
But now that now we're putting that
in their heads. No, this guy's fucking lazy. No, you're not going to know if you actually did it or not. But now that now we're putting that in their heads. No, this guy's
fucking lazy. No, you're not. He hired
AI to put. No, you don't hire it.
It's free. Oh, really? I've never
fucked with chat GBT before.
Oh, I like it. What's the deal? Just ask it.
Just ask them anything. It's wrong almost all the time
is the thing. But for something like that, it can't be wrong.
It's but I try to use it for trivia once.
It just sucks. Terrible for trivia.
Can you ask them? It's just a them how not to premature ejaculate?
Yeah, I'm sure it'll tell you. Go on there.
Like stop jerking off
so much. I think that's what it is.
Why? You been shooting early?
I shot early last weekend.
Pretty early.
Before you even started?
Hey, if you're not 15 minutes early, you're late.
On time is late.
15 minutes early is on time.
I have been drinking water more and you'll be proud of me.
I said no to cocaine this weekend.
Wow, no cane.
I feel better.
I don't know.
I feel better.
Yeah, it's better when you don't do it.
I did rip a bunch of nitrous.
Drugs are fun though, too.
It sucks.
It sucks how fun they are.
I wish they weren't fun and then this would be are fun though too. It sucks. It sucks how fun they are. Um,
I wish they weren't fun and then this would be easier.
I know.
Why are drugs so fun?
That's what sucks.
Everything good's bad for you.
It sucks.
I know.
That's what sucks too.
Why is everything that's so fucking awesome and cool and fun?
So just horrible for you.
That's why religion works.
Why?
Because they tell you not to do all these things and they kind of do have a bad after effect.
And then religion can be like,
see, it's because of the God.
But really it's just because your body's rejecting it.
Oh.
Except for sex before marriage.
You know what's something I'll never reject you?
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That's fun.
Yeah.
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I saw you,
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You started a Patreon
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Because it's not video
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It's not like that. They don't have this on have this on our whatever they can if they want me to put my thing
on there they can hit me up he's all right see this is what happened with andy richter when he
this is a co-host episode i'll let that one slide i guess i can put it on volume
it's not really video or audio. Are people subscribing?
A couple people have.
I did like a free trial,
but it's more,
it's just papers.
Good.
Yeah.
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We just got to get a little bigger.
It'll happen.
It's fine.
I just already have this stuff.
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I am thinking about.
Subscription model,
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I might just,
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All right.
Andy Richter.
You want to tell everyone
about Andy Richter
because he's the one
of the greatest co-hosts
to ever live.
He is the greatest.
He is the greatest co-host.
He's funnier than Ed McMahon.
Oh yeah.
I agree.
Ed McMahon was more
just a drunk psychic announcer guy.
Yeah.
Richter is,
he's quick.
He's just the best.
Conan.
He was on the Conan thing
for a started 93 with the Conan thing for, he started
93 with the Conan show. Was he on Brady Bunch?
No, that was like this live. That's kind of
how he blew up. It was like this live thing they used to do
in Chicago where they recreated Brady Bunch shows.
And he was in that. And then that's how he met the
Saturday Night Live people. Yada, yada.
He had his own career. Then he went back and he did the
Tonight Show. And then he was on TBS for 10
years. He has a podcast. He's a shit.
He's just a smart guy. Very down to earth.
You're going to love it. Very down to earth,
huh? Very down to earth.
Sweetheart. Nick, guess what?
After next week, I'm home for a month.
What are you going to do?
You. I'm going to just fucking make
love to you. Besides that, I'm going to make
love to you with your words. Finish the album?
I'm going to finish. Yeah, I'm going to finish the album.
When's that coming out? Spring? I think we got a record words. Finish the album? I'm going to finish. Yeah, I'm going to finish the album. When's that coming out?
Spring?
I think we got a record deal.
Who, Epic?
No.
Atlantic?
I wish.
No.
Sony?
No, we got to actually,
it's a big label,
but I can't say until.
Subsidiary of?
They give us an offer.
Capitol Records?
They're very interested
and our new manager's got us a big deal.
So shout out to Regime Management.
That's good. Thank you guys.
A lot of big
things happening. A lot of big
things. We're blowing up. We're blowing up.
So funny when people say that. We're blowing up.
We're all like, it's like
not excited. No, you're not. You're still
You're in a jam band. You're in a jam band. Jams
don't blow up. It's only one band that's blowing up.
It's Goose. And it rhymes with Goose.
And it rhymes with Moose. They don't blow it up.
Kill. I don't know.
Okay. Out of me. Oh God.
Julie.
Fuck Julie. And
Kit.
Mary Kit. Fuck Julie.
Shit. What the fuck? What? Hold on. No what hold on no no that was your first instinct
you're gonna kill me i guess i kill you i guess then i take over the throne
the green chair the green well kiss just i don't want to be married to you you're so much
you could just fuck me once well no i'm not'm not gay. So you'd fuck
Julie? Yeah. You'd marry Kit.
Yeah, Kit's like, we have like all the same
interests. Then you'd kill me. Well, that's the
options.
Why are you all into fuck, marry, kill lately?
I don't know. I was thinking about that
for Richter. I wanted to see how badly he hated
Jay Leno. I think that Conan hates him more.
But I think they're over that. He got a lot of money in that
deal. That's true. What, he got a bot out?
Like 30 mil or something. Oh, wow.
But still sad, dude. That was his dream gig.
He got fucked really hard. He got fucked.
It was kind of feel like more the executives than Jay too
a little bit, the way it's being painted now in other interviews.
Yeah. Oh, really? Who knows?
Well, they're trying to make Jay the nice guy.
Conan's still the funniest guy ever to me.
I love that show.
It's like a...
I can't believe you'd kill me. Well, those are the... I love that show. It's like a married kill.
I can't believe you'd kill me. Well, those are the app. I mean, Kit, I mean, your
best friend. I'm your new best friend. He has free flights.
I understand.
Okay. Maybe you got a point.
He's got free flights.
He works for a major airline.
I probably wouldn't kill that. He could fly anywhere in the world
for standby for free.
I'm your new best friend. I already explained't kill that. He could fly anywhere in the world for standby for free. But I, I'm your new best friend.
I already explained to you this.
Yes.
That's bullshit.
You're so jealous of kit.
I am a little jealous.
You never met him either.
Oh,
you have actually,
I forgot more jealous of Julie.
Why?
Cause you guys don't really talk.
We just like are in a relationship and you just like sit on the couch and do
nothing.
She just lets you do it.
It's like a dream relationship. we do stuff what i've never seen you go out on a date
nothing with her well maybe i don't post it every time we go out why not we got to dinner like a
couple times a week really yeah yeah is it just silence no we talk she's pretty funny what do
you guys talk about different random things usually her does she like me my whole yeah
she likes me my whole life is basically talking about the other person.
Me too.
I'm just eventing and just telling me about their day.
Me too.
Yeah.
I don't make you do that that much.
No,
I make it.
I try to do it,
pull you out of it.
This is why we're perfect for each other.
Cause we don't like talking about ourselves.
I need to go on a trip soon.
Hold on.
Did I just say,
I don't like talking about myself,
but I have a podcast. Yeah. You love talking about yourself. That's the stupid on a trip soon. Hold on. Did I just say I don't like talking about myself, but I have a podcast?
Yeah, you love talking about yourself. That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever... Lying ass. We just...
No, but when people interview me, I hate
when people... Oh, you hate being interviewed, actually.
I hate it. Yeah, but you like to be like...
I'll take control of the interview and start interviewing
them. Yeah, you're a terrible interviewer. I'm a terrible...
Yeah, this is why people don't invite me on their podcasts.
Yeah. I've been doing
some more podcasts. I know.
I heard.
It's fun.
No Simple Road I did again.
Dude, I just got back from the Sawtooth Mountains in Idaho.
Beautiful.
Oh my God.
That's where they go to fight the government.
Like Ruby Ridge.
Really?
You know about Ruby Ridge?
No.
What's that?
It was like a crazy guy.
Not crazy.
He was just like this like anti-government guy.
There's a lot of anti-government guys up in Idaho. You know what I mean?
It's free up there. And the
CIA or FBI or whatever got wind of some
stuff. He was doing some guns. They surrounded his house.
Shot his wife. Damn.
I would look at... Well, just watch it. Shot his wife
in front of him? Well, they were like... They were in the house
far away. Killed his dog.
Fuck that.
He ended up not going to jail.
He ended up not going to jail, too up not going to jail too it was weird
like he
they were saying he had illegal guns
I don't know
it's from the 80s
it was back when
no internet yet
so
but it's kind of what led to
Oklahoma City bombing
in a long
long roundabout way
well
what a way to end
the opening segment
talk about someone
his wife dying
anyway
we got Andy Richter
on the show
you're gonna love this episode
um all right enjoy Andy Richter on the show. You're going to love this episode.
All right.
Enjoy Andy Richter and head to volume.com.
I have shows coming up. Andy Richter, you brought
her.
Let me promote some shows because my manager's
pissed. Why? No, I'm not pissed.
Oh, you know what I'm doing next week? I'm going
to the Sphere. Oh, yeah.
With Salkin.
It's single dudes. Two single dudes
heading into Vegas to go
talk to some
six year old cougars. Denco sounds
fun. Do young people like
Denco? Yeah I think it's kind of a generational
thing like fishing a little bit. So there's going to be
some women there? I don't know about that but
I don't know. I haven't been. It's probably a nice
mix. Like a goose show.
Fun flirt. Goose had a very mixed age crowd. Yeah. I haven't seen that in the pictures. nice mix. Like a goose show. Fun flirt. Goose had a very mixed age
crowd. Yeah. I haven't seen that in the pictures.
There's some boomers out there. There are some boomers.
But it's also young people. It was like super young.
They got both. Yeah.
Alright, guys. You kind of have to have that to sell 17,000
tickets. That's true.
So the tour's over.
Oh, yeah. This weekend, I'm playing with
My Morning Jacket. Happy 4th of July.
I'll be there. Oh, yeah. You're coming. I'll see you this weekend. I'm playing with My Morning Jacket. Happy 4th of July. I'll be there. Oh yeah, you're coming.
I'll see you this weekend.
Substituting for an R. Yeah, we're playing in Chicago
with My Morning Jacket. Grab your tickets.
It's at the Salt Shed.
Alright, enjoy Andy Richter and
we'll talk to you later. Bye.
Wow, we have a legend on the hand.
Andy Richter, how you doing, sir's how's it going fine andy how
are you i'm well bud i'm well um where you at how's your head how's everything going let's
talk about your mental state before we talk about your career um well they're inextricably linked god damn it uh no i'm actually i'm well where i am i'm in the in la i'm in the
conan podcast studios which i also just i work out of here a lot i record podcasts out of here
uh i also just kind of use it as a workspace because it's you know i mean i i it's it's i
know everybody here it's like a family business so it's always nice to just come here and see friendly faces and stuff. And it's also just a good, I don't get anything done at home. When I stay home, I just, I either take a nap or do chores, you know so it's like it's just it's better and my wife works out of the house so it's better for
better for both of us more productive for both of us to like for me to get out of there and
she'll get work done i'll get work done and otherwise you know we'll just talk or whatever
which you know don't want that no no god forbid then, that information starts coming out. That's where I am.
Um, and mentally, mentally, I am great.
You know, if, uh, if, if show business hadn't taken such a nosedive, I'd be perfect.
You know, I'm, I'm a relative newlywed.
I got married actually just a little bit over a year ago.
June 10th was our first wedding anniversary.
Um, and I married a single mom and I adopted my stepdaughter. Just a little bit over a year ago, June 10th was our first wedding anniversary. Yeah, congrats.
And I married a single mom and I adopted my stepdaughter.
So now she's my daughter daughter.
So I have a four-year-old at home in addition to my 23-year-old son and my 18-year-old daughter.
Wow.
So I got three kids now, big age gap in between the first two and the third.
But she keeps me busy and keeps me very
happy and it's you know i love raising kids and i love i mean i'm you know when people say i love
kids it's like yeah i like some kids you know my kids yeah yeah uh because i do love kids but you
know i and but my kids are the ones I love.
And she's just a lot of fun and really funny and, of course, challenging and exhausting and treats me like a trampoline.
This weekend, I was laying on a couch reading and just having another human being run and completely jump on my chest with all her weight or on my abdomen and just
kind of you know and it chills us she can do that for two hours and you're just kind of like all
right i'll just be the trampoline i guess um what did you learn about being a dad versus how your dad
taught you well well uh my well my dad my mom and dad divorced when i was four so he was like not a real presence
in my life so just being present was yeah that's that's what i mean i can't really
i mean there is part of me that because he he lived in Bloomington, Indiana, and we lived in Northern Illinois.
And I didn't think about it until I was a father myself, but I did have the feeling cause it was,
I have an older brother who's three years older than me.
And I definitely got to the,
after I had kids,
I thought,
you know,
if I had kids, I thought, you know, if I got divorced, I think I would find a way to live closer to my kids than four hours away.
Yeah, right.
Like I would I would have adjusted my life in some way.
And he didn't.
And he has, you know, that's not that unusual.
But I just don't think i could have done that and when i did get divorced
after being married for 25 years i lived about six minutes away from my kids that you know the
whole time uh after i moved out because i certainly and the worst part of of of that
whole thing was that i didn't get to live under the same roof as my
kids, you know, after, well, at that point it had been,
my son was 19 and my daughter was 14.
So that was the worst part. And, but I mean,
but I think that there's just kind of a general,
there seems to be among parents, my age,
just like a general sort of involvement that didn't exist.
You know, the sort of level of involvement and participation that is just kind of expected from
you. And I don't think it's just, you know, cause this is la and it's a different world but it like my like my parents
they they went to like one pta meeting a semester and then sports things but it wasn't yeah exactly
with all this shit you know i mean it's just like it seems like every week there's something
about well you got to go to the school at 3 30 on wednesday to i don't know sell baked
goods or something yeah it's true though you know yeah so that that's that is kind of a difference
and i and i mean honestly too like in terms of that stuff when you first had kids there's all
kinds of like oh i can't fuck this up kind of feeling, you know, because they send you home with this little thing and you've got to keep it
alive. And there's all kinds of like worry. And,
but now like this sort of notion about like, oh, if,
if I don't do this stuff, the people at school will judge me. I,
that's like, oh, I don't give a shit about that.
Like that. I already did that twice.
I had two kids that went all the way through school.
My daughter just graduated from high school.
So like,
I'm like,
Oh,
I don't know.
I don't fucking care about that.
Let me know if you need some money or something.
No,
it's,
it's true though.
Do you think,
do you think it's,
why do you think,
well,
first do you either,
you guys have kids?
No,
not that I know of.
I hope,
I hope not.
You know,
I don't have any. And I know, you know, I'm in a but i'm also like i i'd ask you that because i'm in a band i do
do about 250 shows i'm always working like kind of like workaholic mode like you guys are um i'm
wondering how do you build intimacy through uh having a child and do you have to take time and
effort into it or is it something that you're just going to realize, like,
I'm not going to be there a lot. So I need to spend the, when I'm with them,
that's when the moment I really need to like be fully in the moment with them.
Yeah. That's that you, I mean, you hit it there, you know, I mean, you do,
it does it involves lots of just lots of devotion and you gotta,
uh, um, you're, you got the, it's not about you anymore.
It truly, truly isn't. And I, I kind of had among my peers,
uh, I had like,
I was one of the first people to have a kid and,
and even to sort of like the further edges of my peers and so many
especially out here i had so many conversations with new dads who were like hadn't done it as
long as me or just started doing it who were like i mean basically the subtext of the conversation was
is it going to get back to being about me i'm on tv it's like no no it won't i
mean i guess when you know when they're 18 and they move out but even then it kind of i mean i
like i said i got a 23 year old and an 18 year old it's still kind of more about them um luckily
you know they both have their own lives and they don't, you know, they, they, they've had enough of me and I mean, they love me and everything, but they got their own lives.
They don't want to, you know, it's like, so, but if, if in the instances where we're, our lives are still together, yeah, no, there's still, they still come first.
Right. they still come first right and and it is hard i was really really lucky um because to work on the
conan show uh for the to go back and work on the conan show when it got to the tonight show and
then on tbs yeah because i was most of that time i lived less than 10 minutes from the studio.
Wow.
And that was, it just kind of worked out that way.
It was just kind of lucky that way.
Yeah.
Um, but I was, I was home for dinner, you know, and I, and I worked on a job that where I was, my norm, my day would be like 10 to six.
Like it wasn't, you know, it was like a fairly, like a normal-ish work day.
Yeah.
It wasn't, you know, it was like a fairly, like a normal-ish work day.
Yeah.
Whereas other shows that I've worked on, especially the ones that are single camera, which just means not in a studio for people that don't, not in a studio, you know, like out and shot like a movie.
When I first moved to LA, my son was about a year old and I'd go four days where I didn't see him awake because I would leave before he woke up and came home after he was asleep and that really sucked yeah um so it is I was very lucky in the
in that I just had 11 years of steady work didn't go too late and was close to home. So I was able to be there to be present for
my kids, you know, most of their grade school, high school years. Now, you know, I can't tell
you what'll happen, you know, cause my daughter's four. And if I get a job in Vancouver, you know,
I guess they'll just come with me or something right you know that's a
possibility i might go back to those 16 hour days at any time and then i don't know what i you know
i'll just have to roll with it as as it comes but definitely on the days that i would have off
they would be pretty much devoted to being with her. You ever tell your, your older kids, like you ungrateful motherfuckers,
I work this hard for you.
So you could have this fucking house.
So you can,
that doesn't work like that.
It doesn't work.
And they knew like,
they knew what I did for a living.
And for me to go like,
I worked hard.
I mean,
yeah,
I worked hard,
but I mean,
I wasn't loading trucks.
Exactly.
You weren't a union welder. You were in a union. I mean, I was, I had, I like, I had, yeah, I worked hard, but I mean, I wasn't loading trucks. You weren't a union welder.
You weren't a union. Yeah, I mean, I was, I had, I like.
Different union.
I had my own, I had my own office with my own bathroom, my own dressing room with my own bathroom.
People picked out my clothes.
I met famous people and made jokes.
Yeah.
You know, it's, we were producing a television show and there's a lot of work involved in that.
Sure.
But it's still, it's like, it's the shit that I was doing for free before somebody paid me for it.
So it's kind of hard to come up high and mighty, you know.
Yeah.
And like Tony, Tony and Meadow Soprano, like, you don't know what I did for this money.
You know, they know what I did for the money.
And they're like, yeah, it looks pretty good.
It looks pretty cushy. Yeah. Conan what do you yeah yeah i was gonna ask you who who's a
who's a better partner your new wife or conan oh my my new wife anyway yeah yeah he's he's uh i mean
i love him but he's uh yeah he's a lot yeah oh he's a lot really um and he knows he's a, he's a lot. Oh, he's a lot. Really? And he knows he's a lot. Yeah. Yeah. No, he's just like,
there is being around him is in many ways being around a little kid.
Cause there is just like a constant stream of very funny,
weird, nonsensical, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And it's just, he just runs at a high
RPM and yeah
it's like there were times where I'd be
struck by like sitting in a room full of
like the monologue writers and everyone
sitting there and it's like there's nothing really
to be done we're waiting for something and everyone
sitting around look at their phones or reading the paper
and then there's this the guy that
pays our check going
over in the corner and then there's this the guy that pays our check going over in the corner
you know and he's so big too and everyone just everyone just kind of you know you just sort of
oh yeah yeah yeah he's over there doing that yeah yeah i just love any six four and he's animated
yeah it's like what's the difference between being a very hard to miss oh i bet you know
what's the difference between being a co-host on that's very hard to miss. Oh, I bet. You know, what's the difference between being a co-host
on that type of show
versus having your own show now
on Sirius?
Oh, well, I mean,
one is TV, you know.
Yeah.
And the one that I'm doing,
the Andy Richter-Collins show
that is starting on SiriusXM
on, I don't know, July 26th
or something like that.
That's a radio show and that's, you know, that's just fun.
Like they asked me to,
because Conan has this Sirius XM bought Conan's podcast company and they
want it.
And there's a Conan O'Brien channel that was up to this point was all
podcasts.
And they kind of just wanted to start doing some radio programming
that could be podcasts as opposed to podcasts that were being played on the radio
and they're and that's just kind of like a general thing they want to start to try i mean i wouldn't
i feel like he's probably gonna start to do stuff like that as it spreads out a little bit i mean
he's busy enough because he you know he had a travel show
for max and he records podcasts here but i wouldn't be surprised if they tried to get him to
do some kind of radio you know more sort of like radio programming kind of things do you think
that'd get the band back together i don't know i don't know about the band. You know, he tried real hard. He tried really hard for you.
You know, when we there was the Tonight Show and the Tonight Show fell apart and then and then he was contractually unable to be on television for something like 10 or 11 months.
I can't remember. It wasn't a full year, but it was a while. So he put together a tour and we actually went on a tour.
year but it was a while so he put together a tour and we actually went on a tour oh yeah and it was like a variety show tour and one of the main reasons he did that was to get the band paid
yeah because the band i actually was still almost right up until the tbs show started i was still
under whatever contract we had i think because i think i think it was like five or six months that i got paid
because you know and that i was still under contract all right so i was still getting paid
but the band the band you know they don't have any they don't sign a contract they get paid for
every show that they do so right he got them paid for that and he threw out but you know
when there's gigs he really does try to get them paid but then at a
certain point i don't know a few years before the show went off the air they you know we went from
an hour to a half hour and as much as everybody tried to play it like it's streamlining it's like
nah you know they don't give you less real estate in the schedule because things are going great
you know it was just late night talk shows
are just i don't know if they're gonna are they how are they still existent i don't understand
how there's still a thing to be honest because they're still cheap enough they're still like
all kinds of you know they still are a cog in the publicity machine which is you know was the
main thing about them anyway was that it was well the main thing was they're which is, you know, was the main thing about them anyway, was that it was,
well, the main thing was they're cheap. They're, you know, you build a room, you get a guy,
you get a band and then, and then, and you just go for however many years you go.
Right. And, and you get good guests, you get interesting content because people want to
promote things. So it's all promotion promotion promotion and it
still does matter there's still even with social media you know you'll get a clip of somebody
on uh like um there's something like roan chap roan chapel oh yeah chapel roan she's the new
lady gaga yeah yeah yeah so i i mean i know i i don't
know much about her but i just have seen her referenced on on uh basically every gay person
i follow on social media is in love with her yeah so like okay and like you know i saw an interview
with her on jimmy fowl like and that and that tons of people will see that. There'll be another 10 days of
Jimmy Fallon that nobody gives a shit about or Stephen Colbert or whomever, but there still are,
it still is a way for cultural happenings to filter out and get spread around and to make
somebody some money, put some butts in some seats or sell some downloads or whatever.
But they are going down, down, down, down.
Yeah.
You know, like, you know, James Corden, you know, and it's, they do kind of frame it.
And it's one of my pet peeves.
Like, I don't think there's, like like you can't be totally honest in show business
but you can be more honest than people are because like james cord it was like
i'm i love doing this but i want to move on it's like no that's not what you don't want to do the
movie that bad yeah i mean and it's just it's easier to say that than saying this talk show
is more expensive and they're going to cut they're going to do a panel show that costs a third of what this does and get either the same or more ratings just because nobody cares about talk shows anymore.
Yeah. And it's probably like in his brains, I rather step down than get fired.
Yes. Yes. And that, you know, and I, I guess there's something to that but i also but i don't know i
just kind of feel like i don't know i just feel silly like going right like lying to you know go
yeah you know like talking about the end of the conan show and saying like
no we decided that we had done enough like no, no, shit, we would have done another three or four years of that at least.
But it just,
it was, you know,
and I mean,
frankly, I'm surprised sometimes that there's still a TBS.
You know what I mean?
I'm surprised too, bro.
I agree.
You know what I mean?
There's just,
there's like,
TBS is,
I mean,
and it has been for years
and years and years,
they make most of their money on reruns of network stuff.
Christmas Vacation.
And just the way their production, and they made some funny, interesting stuff, but it just never seemed to go anywhere.
Right.
And it just really felt like towards the end.
And it was weird, too, because COVID sort of interrupted the end of our show kind of in a way that
made it like,
it was better almost to have COVID push us out of the studio and then the
show.
And yeah,
while we were out,
because it would have,
if it just wound down in that same studio,
it probably would have felt shitty.
Whereas at least this way,
it was kind of it ended
in its own weird little final chapter right you know of like him and me going and doing shows
at largo this little theater in la and us being like one of six people in the in the whole building
right same late night show that used to take you know 120 people to me yeah
it's like the titanic where the band keeps playing kind of makes you think yeah how many extra people
you were paying all these years you didn't need i think about that no but you're a bad you got
i'm kidding yeah but i know i mean it's you're not wrong but i mean but it's but it's not so much that you're not wrong.
I mean, every institution, especially showbiz institutions, end up having a little bit of bloat as time goes on.
Why do you think that is?
Because comfortable?
Or are they trying to hide money from the tax man?
comfortable or they're trying to hide money from the tax man well well i i mean i don't know exactly how you know i mean on a tv show like ours i would say there was you start with a group
of people and everybody's kind of busy but as the show as our show evolved it was less work to do it because we weren't as ambitious in terms of
how much comedy we would put out you know it's like in the beginning we were fighting for our
lives so we produced as much comedy as we could and you know you'd work you know through the
weekends till the point where you're like working four weeks with no day off, you know? Um, and then after a while, when you're on the air and you know,
you're not going to get thrown off the air, you're like, I'm not fucking doing that.
One time. Yeah. Yeah. Like having, having three comedy bits in that first act, like,
why don't we just have one? It'll be fine. And I think, and, and it also too, I mean, you don't we just have one yeah it'll be fine and i think and and also too i mean you
don't you have to balance that with with not getting too complacent right until the point
where your quality drops but you also find out like oh yeah we didn't need i mean maybe we needed
to back then but right now it's you know yeah it's kind of better to have the show have a more relaxed
feel be a little easier,
be a little more spontaneous. But there's also too, like in networks too, there's,
I don't know how it works there, but there's always, what my experience always was,
I always had the hunch that like, you could just go through, you know, any building,
you know, any office building that houses network executives and just
go and fire every other person.
Some sort of
Ultron or whatever.
Just fire half of them
and it probably
wouldn't run that much differently.
That's where the real blow is.
Lots of people that just don't know
what they do.
We're in the music industry and how many people who get dropped, A&Rs get dropped?
And then get handed off to another A&R for a modest mouse saying, for example, talking to them.
Yeah, they've had four A&R guys.
Nothing's changed.
Everything's all fucked up.
They're all bad.
It's still fucked up. they're all equally bad when you go when you go pitch a tv show you'll be
pitching to like eight people yeah and you're like and they all basically are listening to you to go
like yes that's good we should give him money or no i don't think that would be good and it's like
really does it take eight of you you know yeah who's writing the check here
like it takes less than eight of us to make the act to write the show yeah yeah yeah you know
it creates a lot of situations that i'm sure are the same in the music business of like
what do you think what does the person above me thinking exactly i agree with them you know there's a lot of that
so what's the difference between working with a radio company versus working for a like a tv
company well for me honestly it's not that much different because um i was i was kind of blissfully
ignorant of a lot of the kind of network shit that happened on the Cohen show.
You know, he ran all that interference.
And I kind of, you know, like there were a lot of meetings I didn't have to sit through.
And there was a lot of, you know, kind of meet and greet kind of shit that I didn't have to sit through.
Then I could have if I, you know, I could have.
I'm sure he would have been happy to have me do it.
And when I did do it, he been happy to have me do it and when i did do it he was happy to have me do it but it wasn't i don't wanna yeah you know i
don't wanna like have i hate meetings um yeah so and they and especially at tbs we always were left
to do whatever we wanted right you know there was not like a lot of it was and even
on nbc was only like the first three or four years that we felt and in any way that people
were going you can't do that you should do this you can't do that right and we very quickly got
it wasn't like and it wasn't like we were doing a fit like we're like oh we can't do the offensive you know like anti-christian humor or something right it's like you learn
you learn like oh that's a hot button you know like you know you if you're gonna put jesus in
a bit you got to be careful what you do with jesus you know, it's like, okay, all right. You know, we can deal with that. Yeah. Um, but, uh, and, and so far this with the serious thing, it's just been a lot of kind of
like talking about what the logo is going to be.
It's not even, you know, and, and, and, and I, you know, I've heard this a lot about serious,
like you're, it's your world they just want
you to make good content that's cool yeah that's rad it really does seem to be that way you know
and and there's not because i think most of these people came from the shitty old radio world
and they're like no it didn't work you You know, like, you know, having some guy that mostly just sold advertising time tell you how you should make comedy.
Yeah, it's insane.
You know, it was just like, that guy doesn't know.
So I think that they kind of, they know radio.
They know kind of what sells.
They do marketing.
They have some idea of what sells they do marketing they have some idea of what sells but mostly it's just like especially some like i have you know i i'm a known quantity so just
sort of like oh yeah we have an idea of what that'll be like just do it right yeah what about
i just it's just been like hey it's going really well and i'm like well okay i'll keep doing it
then yeah i'm gonna shut the fuck up yeah do you think um the relationship you have with tbs like was it like kind of like the heartbreak era
for you two like you know moving on to tbs in a sense like you got your job taken from you from
jay or whoever you moved to a company or was it did you not have those type of feelings towards it
did you felt like these guys want me i feel like i'm at home like what were those first phases of
going back to tbs for you guys well i can only speak for myself because i wasn't you know like
uh i hadn't uh a friend of mine's here um i uh you came back in 09 right yeah i did yeah he can't he asked me i you know i left in
in 2000 to come out here and do some of my own uh shows and i you know and i was i did
i had three different shows that i was the star of um and then i was back i was back developing
shows you know yeah which is just fucking awful
and it takes forever it sucks and you're like it takes years right like to get a show it takes
forever and you know and you'll you'll submit a script and you'll wait two weeks and then they'll
give you a couple of notes and then you rewrite it and you give it back to them and it's like
another three weeks and then like oh well you know she's on vacation or you know she went to france for some
convention you know it's just like it takes forever and they say dumb stuff all the time
and they don't and they're all scared and i don't blame them because if i had to
program a television network i would get fired in four minutes you know yeah me too, bud. Everything can't be a game show.
It's hard to know what's going to do it,
what's going to make it happen,
and get eyes on it.
And also, too, when you look around,
like shit that's super popular,
I'd be like, oh my God,
if somebody said, do you want to do that?
I'd be like, ooh, fuck no, that's awful.
And then they put it on TV and it's a huge hit.
So what do I know?
Have that ever happened to you know have that ever happened to you
with
have that ever happened to you where you said no to
something they really wanted you on and it blew up
um
well
the only one that's really kind of
that
it's kind of like that is
when they were putting together the show
Modern Family they were very interested the show, modern family,
they were very interested in me and playing one of the roles,
but I had already kind of secretly set up that I was going to do the
tonight show with Conan.
Um,
so if I had that,
make that choice and it,
you know,
and it just turned out that the Conan or the,
the tonight Show fell apart
for many different reasons
and if I had to make that choice over again
I would still
have gone you know because it was like
oh it's this
it's the sitcom on ABC
the pilot script's okay
but you know
you never know
that means nothing there's a lot of good, you never you never know. That's like that means nothing.
You know, there's a lot of good.
And because, I mean, there's plenty of times where it's like, oh, my God, this pilot script is fantastic.
And then it just it just doesn't do anything.
Yeah.
So it was that was like it seemed like a very easy decision, like go be Ed McMahon, you know, or or take a risk on this abc um and so i didn't and you know i mean
it certainly in terms of
you know just money
i'll clap to that you know i'll clap to that money to that. We love money on this podcast.
We love money on this podcast.
We're pro-money.
Let's just say that if I had been on Modern Family,
I probably wouldn't be talking to you guys.
We'll clap to that, too.
We'll clap to that, too.
We'll clap to that, too, Andy.
I wouldn't even know you exist. I'm looking at over all the Taco Bells that I own.
So what happened in 2000s you wanted to bail because of the show i had just i i i was bored honestly i was bored and i was ambitious i and i i you know i was young enough that i i felt like
taking the risk you know like and I had been there for seven years.
I had never, I wanted to be a comic actor, you know, like I wanted to be an actor, not a
personality. And I wasn't a standup. I was a improv actor, improviser. I had acted in things I'd been in, you know, done comedy roles and
different things. And I wanted to get back to that. And I also knew that I had enjoyed this
success on the Conan show, which started to kind of also feel like with, with my ADD kind of,
it just felt like we were doing the same, you know,
everything was a little different, but it felt like I was doing the same thing.
And it just would continue to like that. There was,
there didn't seem to be any growth. Right. Um, so I thought, well,
I know I can go out there and get a deal. Like, I know I,
it just from like friends of mine that had been on the daily show for a few
years. And then they, they they say i'm leaving the daily
show and all of a sudden everybody's got to have them you know right you know so i knew i would be
sort of like a previously unavailable new shiny thing and i'd be able to get at least one deal
probably two the one i was worried about was like the third right you know yeah yeah yeah
they'd give you money for holding or for development and but i knew like the first two
just because they covet what they can't have right and i was employed and people knew who i was and
and i had sort of you know there was enough people that liked me that it was like
oh yeah it's worth money to spend money on that guy yeah so I just knew I'd be able to get a show
right and and it and I wasn't I didn't set out to move to Los Angeles but it quickly became apparent
like yeah I'm gonna have to go to Los Angeles and um and so, and so that's when I did. And I came on here and, you know,
was just trying to enlarge things, you know, trying to be my own, you know, be number one
myself. Um, which actually turned out in a way it was easy to sort of go back to work for Cohen
is I don't really care that much about being number one. I don't like it that much.
Like you had to do that part of your life to know that you didn't want to.
Yes, exactly. Exactly. It's like, I heard an interview,
I think it was on Howard Stern, but like, um, Steve Van Zandt.
Yeah. Talked about like, he had his own bands and he's like,
I didn't like it. I like, I'd rather be Bruce's second.
Then be my own
than be the lead
on something. And I relate to that.
I mean, it's nice to be
in charge.
It's nice to be
listened to.
But there's also a lot of shit that's like
just no fun
and not necessary.
And I also don't, um, I don't care that much about the attention, you know,
and, and using attention as just sort of like a catch all word for, you know, being famous,
being known, being whatever.
I don't, you know, i like my life definitely i like that
people know who i am i like that i can i have a reputation and i can work and i can do this
but i don't you know like it's not it it doesn't that part of it doesn't matter to me like if
something happened like if i could figure out a way where i'd kind of as they say moved behind the camera and still made a good living i think i'd be fine with that
you know and it's kind of you're kind of doing that with this uh radio show because now you don't
need a little bit you know you could still and you could still do your thing be you but also you
don't have to like fucking doll it up and wear fucking makeup shake hands
that sounds so annoying dude and like oh was it was that piece that much i think about that like
the daily yeah and also like the daily you have to be funny and consistent every day it's got to
be draining that whole writing for a daily talk show yeah oh yeah and i mean you get used to it and and the labor is spread out and
among enough people you know yes and not you know it's not like it's i mean in this sort of podcast
world um actually it was my friend andy daly i think is here the recording something really
funny guy yeah and he and i were gonna do a podcast together um that we realized was gonna be
a lot of joke writing like it was it you know it's just like an hour podcast but
it wasn't just conversational like the the format of it would have involved us writing a lot of
material for each show and we did it a few times and we were like,
oh, fuck, this is too much.
Yeah, I did it.
It's too much.
It's not worth the investment.
For every podcast, I don't know what it was for him,
but for me, it was like four or five hours of joke writing.
And at a certain point, I'm just going to run out.
It's why people have writing staffs.
It's just because it's why people have writing staffs right it's just because it's
too much it's too taxing and it's easier for everybody to keep the ball in the air rather
than just one person to constantly do it or two people to constantly do it so yeah it was i i've
used the phrase the conan show it was like uh laying tracks for a train that you can hear coming like there's no oh yeah you got
you just got to get it get it down and get it out and um which in in some ways is great like it it
it takes it removes preciousness yeah yeah from from the the actual production thing and and
there's a lot of just get it out the door just just get it, you know, get it to where you can be air quotes proud of it.
Right.
And get it out the door.
But in a way, you self-sabotage your own ADD-ness because if you're already making the track, you're like, fuck, I'm bored.
You know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that's kind of a hard pill to swallow.
Yeah, it was. Well, it was, you know, like I say, every day's kind of hard pill to swallow yeah it was well it was you know like i say every
day was kind of different but you know it's like i don't you know it's like uh every yeah every day
was different but it was also kind of the same you know the actual container that everything went into was kind of the same and
there was the same kind of you know like the the celebrity interview part of it like at the time
was like bore really boring to me yeah um totally you know and but then you know what the difference
was is i came out here and as you kind of referenced before, I came on here.
I did three shows of my own.
Conan came back to me and said, hey, would you like to come back to work?
And I was like, come back and make TV every night, like and have like an idea in the morning and see it on TV that night.
Fuck yes, I want to do that.
You know, absolutely.
to do that. Absolutely. And I was able to enjoy that and do that for 11 years then, especially,
and also too, I had kids and it was like, I'm going to have a steady job. It's not the gigantic money that I would be if I was on a network show, but that's a, you know, a riskier endeavor,
but I have a set job. I make a nice living and I'm close to home and I'm home by seven o'clock
at the latest. Right. That's amazing. And when you have, you know, I was home for my kids for
their, most of their grade school and high school years. And that's, there's a lot of people doing what i do who don't enjoy that yeah
so yeah you basically need those nine years to appreciate what you had in the beginning exactly
yeah a little bit i would say so yeah definitely that's and you know and it was i mean and it would
have been great if like one of my shows really took off but it didn't you know yeah i mean and and i'm very proud of the work that i
did on those shows and i still get a lot of good feedback and people tell me how much they enjoyed
them um but then i but i know that like the most impactful thing that i've done is to work with
conan and that's the thing that that young people in comedy who are like a version of me back in 19, you know, 89, 1990, those people look to me and Conan and to our show the way I look to kind of my quote unquote comedy heroes.
Oh yeah.
I mean, you guys are our comedy heroes.
Yeah.
I mean, you are you
built this show i was so excited when they were yeah we got when we got to we we were edging for
about two weeks i have a question about the the writing team thing with conan like before he was
on that show he's like one of the greatest comedy writers of his generation probably he wrote for
the simpsons he wrote for saturday night live did having a guy like that at the helm of another team of writers make it easier or did sometimes
make it harder because he would have like an extra idea was it harder to finish things or
was it like a huge asset huge asset yeah i mean the more funny brains you got okay the the the
better it is um and it is it's an asset too,
but it makes life more difficult.
I mean, Stephen Colbert tells a story
about being on our set during rehearsal
for something, whether he was going to do,
I think he was a guest and he was doing a pre-tape.
And this was before, I think,
maybe when he was still doing the, you know,
like the daily show and kind of the, you know, that Colbert character.
Oh, the character was coming out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That he, yeah. But it was like, he hadn't been the head of a talk show yet, I don't think.
And he saw, the writers came in with something and Conan read the stuff and stuff and was like well if it isn't the good
enough gang uh yeah yeah because he's very good at like kind of talking down to people
oh he he's a fucking sharpshooter you know like yeah yeah no i mean and he's a brilliantly funny
guy and he's not and he has a you know, and there's high standards. Our stuff is really silly and absurd, but there's high standards.
And I have that too.
And I would, I was with him on it.
I mean, and I kind of ended up, you know, it was in a lot of ways with the head writer.
It was like whoever the head writer was, which most of the time was Mike Sweeney, Conan and me were sort of like deciding what went out the door, basically.
And and I could be pretty fucking brutal.
And I knew there were writers that didn't like me because they would write something.
The head writer would say, yeah, they'll cast it.
They'll profit.
They'll costume it.
They'll go out and shoot it and they bring it back and we're sitting in the monologue meeting and it is supposed to go
into act one you know we're going out there in 20 minutes and we'll screen it and and there's
plenty of times where i just be like no i don't think so like it's just it's just not and i
wouldn't say it then unless really press but it it's like, it's not funny enough.
Right.
It's not like it's, it's just okay.
And we always, and there's some just okay that you, you know, when you don't have a choice, you know, there's a lot of times where it's like, we got to put something on and we're not crazy about this, but well, fuck it.
Let's just do it.
Right.
But we were, we we we had high standards so yeah
it's like he had he has very high standards because he is one of the biggest best comedy
minds in the world right so he has really high standards which is great but it's also
you know when you're just trying to fill slots on the grid
of comedy that we need to fill,
it can be really daunting.
It can be really tough.
You ever want to beat the shit out of him?
Of Conan?
You ever fought?
Not for a long, long time,
I don't think.
And I mean, that's not...
I'm not like a fighter.
Just last week, seeing Andy Richter take off his shirt.
Come outside, Conan!
They got in a full fight.
Come outside, bro!
Conan's got a black eye on his podcast this week.
I mean, I can be a yeller, you know, but I'm not going to, but I mean, but even then, I don't do, that's, you know, you got to say that.
You have to make your yelling and your tantrum throwing mean something.
Right.
If you, if you waste it on inconsequential things, then people are going to stop paying attention.
Yeah.
You know, speaking of paying attention, I'd like to ask a question about how some, some facts on how to be a great co-host for my boy, Nick here.
I want to, I want to, how can you make, how can we make Nick a great co-host for my boy nick here i want to i want to how can you make how can we make nick
a great co-host well you have to be really really fucking funny damn it okay is there anything else
i can do that's that's like 90 of it um no i mean um it's all just common sense kind of stuff it's
uh you got to really listen you know really listen, you know, you gotta,
you gotta, you know, focus and listen, um, and be ready to kind of pick your, pick your moment.
And, but one of the, like, one of the things that I learned the most is, uh, to also know when the
moments passed, like I could have something really good loaded up and I'm waiting just,
you know,
cause you're kind of waiting for a break in the conversation where you can
sort of slip it in.
And sometimes it would pass and it'd be like,
ah,
you know,
fuck,
I wouldn't want to be like,
Hey,
you know what thing you guys were talking about like a minute ago?
Yeah.
Here's a zinger.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so it's all minute ago? Yeah. Here's the zinger. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um,
so it's all about timing.
Yeah.
It's all about the timing.
And it also too is like,
um,
putting your,
you gotta put your own ego really far in the background.
You know,
it's like,
I always,
I never,
I never had any delusions that the show was called anything other than
Conan or Late Night with Conan O'Brien.
Or the Andy Fresco show.
We might have to get you on.
I'm going to put you on a Zoom with my band, actually, too, Andy Richter.
I think you need to be talking to your band.
I think you need to talk to my guitar player.
I think you need to talk to your band more than me,'s talking to your band more than more than me honestly um well do you have
any tips for working for a guy and i'm not being specific here where it's kind of all about them
every day and you have to work for them for years and years and this i'm not being specific about
anyone but just like every day it's all about them and they're a lot and they have all these
ideas and they're kind of very demanding give me a a tip. And I'm not being specific about any person, but give me tips for that.
Tums.
Okay.
This is the best.
This is the best.
I know you're so busy, Eddie.
I got two more questions.
I'm not that busy.
All right.
Fuck, marry, kill.
Oprah, Jay Leno, or Conan O'Brien?
Oh, well, that's easy.
I mean, the way you listed it.
No, it would be, I would fuck Oprah.
I would marry Conan O'Brien, and I would kill Jay Leno.
Let's fucking go.
There you go.
And I don't really.
That was a softball.
That was a lot of balls.
I don't really beef so much with Jayay leno but i mean yeah of that of those got people i don't want to fuck jay leno
i don't either and i plan on our on conan's and my marriage being a sexless marriage yeah
that's the third marriage yeah i see i see uh jay leno at the car i grew up in calabasas so i see
jay leno at the car show all the time. I always want to say, fuck you for ruining Conan's life.
Every time.
He turned out okay.
He turned out all right.
But that's funny.
So you're excited about this Colin show.
Are you excited about it?
How are you going to approach this?
How is it like in the beginning when it's a new show how are you gonna get enough callers like how are you approaching the game
plan for the first couple months well i you know i'm hoping that the people whose job it is to do
all you know i just plan on showing up and being funny it's my boy no that's my fucking guy it's
like they're the people that are you know i
although it is you know nowadays like if you want to sell a book the main you forget your idea
forget your talent how many social media followers do you have exactly you gotta advertise everything
yourself you know right so that does kind of you, when we're looking for callers, cause we pre-taped these, uh, and you know, and we'll continue to pre-tape them with
some, once we're up and running, we definitely do want to do some live ones. I want to do some
live ones. Cause I, you know, it's kind of like fulfillment of being a radio show exactly radio show host fantasy exactly so going into like a
studio and there's fucking faders next to me that i'm supposed to touch but don't touch that button
they're there you know yeah feels like you know it feels like a real big time grown-up radio show
and i would love for it to be live and people to just be out in the world calling because
i still i i don't listen to like i don't i do like i listen to spotify i listen to apple music
but mostly i listen to to sirius xm and i have for many many years prior to even working with
them having anything to do with them one One main reason, because Howard Stern.
Yeah.
But also, too, I like the way that the music is kind of in these silos, you know, like by genre.
And, you know, it's like if I want to listen to old country music, I want to listen to old country music.
But I also like that there's human beings programming it.
Right.
Yeah.
As opposed to just my phone picking out songs at random from a playlist that I made.
There is some kind of human contact.
Yeah.
So the notion of being on there and doing a live show is even more like, I don't, you
know, it's, it's just, it's very old fashioned in a way, but it, at least, but it feels also
like, oh yeah, yeah no this is real it's not
just kind of this self-contained little bubble of of feedback loop all right so my next question
for fuck marry kill is conan o'brien jay lino then i guess damn again all right yeah yeah he does have he has beautiful
eyes he does he does honest to god he has like the color of his eyes it's like almost like a blue
violet kind of color and and beautiful gray hair like like both of those things about him are like
off-putting yeah when you're looking at him
and talking to him it's like you know you look into his eyes and you're like holy shit those
are the most that's the most beautiful eye color i've ever seen in my life you're like damn no
wonder why he got his job back zoom in on his eyes don't pan down to the chin um andy thanks
for being on the show man i really
appreciate him big fan of you we all are i mean you're one of your your nick's heroes he's very
shy to say it but you are his hero so oh thank you well you're one of them i'm just kidding
that's all right no you know i don't need that burden yeah well i'd look i i'm i wish you all
the luck on this show i i know it's gonna be huge because you are a talent and it's,
I'm so excited to start listening to it.
My last question for you before you go is, you know,
you've done so many things.
What do you want to be remembered by?
Oh, I mean, honestly, it's the boring.
I mean, this isn't it.
And this is like a, this is the answer that somebody might say in a bullshit way, but I really do mean it.
Like, just for being a dad, being a good dad and a good husband.
And everything else beyond that is so, like, I have some control over those ones.
You know, like, I can really have a lot of control over what my kids think about me and how good a job I did raising them and being their dad.
And same goes for my wife.
But like, in terms of the work that I've done on television or in movies or on the radio or on podcasts, that stuff is out in the world.
And the, the opinion of it it i don't have any control over
it's out there and people either like it or they don't or you know i mean it's nice to be respected
it's nice to have people like what you do but i mean i don't know how you guys feel but i can go
from one minute feeling like i've really done a lot and i i've contributed a lot to comedy and
to television and to television.
And then five minutes later,
I can feel like,
what the fuck have I ever done?
I've been on TV cracking.
Why?
So what?
It's all fucking disposable.
Who gives a shit?
You know,
it all just depends,
you know,
on what your mood is.
And,
uh,
and I have enough people telling me they appreciate what I've done.
And that's enough.
I mean,
just as long as the kids still love me.
Yeah.
Well,
we'll tell you,
we'll tell you you're a great dad.
You'll be our dad too.
You're a great dad.
From the Midwest.
Yeah.
You're a Midwest guy.
You gotta be a good dad.
All us Midwest guys are good.
You ever have to yell at your kids,
like punch them or anything?
No.
You know what?
I,
with my son, the first one, cause I grew up, you know, I grew up son the first one because i grew up you know i grew up getting
spanked yeah yeah and i thought i still had this kind of and i'm certainly not a conservative i'm
like practically you know like i'd go fucking i if we could have denmark the way they run denmark
if you could have that here give it to me socialism sounds good they're very happy i like
it too i kind of like it too, dude.
I kind of like it.
It's like the happiest country ever.
All my Dutch friends are really just like well, proper people.
Yeah.
They look so happy.
Yeah.
And they like, you know, the government tells kids, you know, like use condoms and, you
know, and if you fucking get cancer, they'll take care of you.
Yeah. You you know it's
just i would love to have it but when i had a little kid i was like no i got spanked and you
know kids are like little animals sometimes you know like a mother dog will nip its puppies to
sort of keep them in line and i spanked my son and i don't mean like you know wailed on him i mean like a swat on the butt or two
and i did it a few times a couple of three times maybe and it felt so awful and it was so evident
to me that this is not teaching him anything other than being afraid of me this is not he's
not learning boundaries he's just learning like holy, the person that takes care of me just fucking hit me.
Right.
And it was all about me being impatient and wanting whatever the situation was to end.
Like I've had enough.
I want to put a button on this and here's the button slap, slap.
Yeah.
And I, like I said, I did it a few times and it felt so bad and so stupid and so counterproductive that I never did it again. Now I do believe in corporal punishment on eardrums. I have given my kids eardrums beating now and then.
You gotta have something, you gotta do something.
Yeah. Yeah. Because it does, um, it doesn't feel great to be yelled at, but sometimes you need to have something that doesn't feel great to happen.
We are animals on some level.
Yeah, exactly.
he the slightest criticism that sends him spiraling into like this giant flamboyant indignation scene and i like i had just an instance with my son a little while ago um
because he lost something and i was like you gotta be a little more careful and he got real
indignant and real defensive and i was like i was like what just
happened is so mild i said you gotta focus more you gotta pay attention i said i was yelled at
every fucking day of my life like this is nothing you think that that was that that was an insult
or that what you know it's like that is nothing you should you should only be yelled at as much as i was yelled at oh my god yeah i i agree i agree because i don't think i my parents didn't yell at me that much
and i feel that's why i'm so passive aggressive sounds like his kid could be in your band too
though he could well he's very talented yeah he a musician? He does play music.
He and his friends, they do a lot of DJing, which I don't understand at all.
That's the new being in a band.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he does.
And they do.
I mean, they'll do shit like they'll go in.
I guess there's places here where you can just basically rent a DJ setup.
And I'm sure that they get absolutely fucking baked.
Yeah.
And then four or
five of them go in and for like an hour and a half two hours they just i don't know do beats or
whatever the fuck it is whatever they're not on the street but he's also he's a visual artist he
did he graduated uh from usc with an art degree and uh he's a a wonderful painter i love beautiful
painter well i'm happy you're
you're creating such a great life for you and um we're we're rooting you on buddy so keep doing
the great call in every show we're gonna call on every show we'll make sure you have callers well
we will be the ones calling you do it we're recording we're recording tomorrow all right
i'll get the number i'll get the number from your publicist here comes the general public is bad
teachers which i already gotten pushback on social media from teachers going like All right, I'll get the number. I'll get the number from your publicist. Here comes the general public. The topic is bad teachers,
which I've already gotten pushback on social media from teachers going like,
don't you think that maybe you were not the target
that you should be picking right now?
No, I had sex with my high school teacher.
Did you really?
Yeah, I had sex with my high school teacher.
I was a senior.
I would say that's bad.
That's a bad teacher, right?
Yeah, the bad.
I would say that is a bad teacher.
Okay, I'll call in.
I'll call in. That's like one of the first rules is don't fuck the kid. It's a bad teacher, right? Yeah, the bad. I would say that is a bad teacher. Okay, I'll call in. I'll call in. That's like one of the
first rules is don't fuck the
kid. It's a main rule.
Yeah. Alright, I'll call in tomorrow.
Alright. Alright.
Alright, Andy. Honestly, do it.
Alright. I'll tell the public. I'll ask the publicist
who's your serious publicist.
Yeah, do. Alright, buddy.
Have a great day. Good luck with everything.
Later. Later, buddy. Later All right, buddy. Have a great day. Good luck with everything. I'll talk to you guys later. Later. Later, buddy.
Later.
Later, bud.
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