Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 280: Round 2 with Maggie Rose (Flood City Festival EP)

Episode Date: July 23, 2024

Friend of the show, Caleb Hawley opens the show with a real banger of a tune. Andy and Nick catch up on matters of the heart. Namely, that sweet, sweet love a person has for oneself: narcissism. Plus! What does Andy have to say about his Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds moment in Las Vegas at the Sphere. Does this guy love John Mayer, or what?! And on the Interview Hour we got Round 2 with Rolling Stone magazine verified STAR, Maggie Rose! Maggie is the best. What more do you need to know?! Listen in and find out why we all love her. And guess what... now you can see a cool dog by the name of Denzel should you choose to watch this episode *exclusively* on Volume.com... now in color!  Generally speaking, we are psyched to partner up with our buddies at Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. Call, leave a message, and tell us if you think one can get addicted to mushrooms: [phone]  Check out our new album!, L'Optimist on all platforms Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out our good friends that help us unwind and sleep easy while on the road and at home: dialedingummies.com Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Arno Bakker Caleb Halwey

And now, a little message from Caleb Hawley. So tell me what it's like to have a dream come true Is it everything you ever wished for? Do you level up and yearn for more? Does fortune come knocking on your door each night? Does having it easy make you lose your fight tell me what it's like to have a dream come true if i never know i can live through you you get the blessings i can't break through, so tell me what it's like to have a dream come true Watching you flourish is a beautiful thing But I get a bit sad just thinking of me

When I look at this picture from 2003 I remember who I thought I'd be Tell me what it's like to have a dream come true If I never know I could live through you You'll get the blessings I can't break through So tell me what it's like to have a dream come true. You get the blessings I can't break through. So tell me what it's like to have a dream come true. Beautiful.

There we go. We're back. Here we go We're back Here we are Mary Margaret Another day in fucking paradise Talking to agents and managers Talking to agents and managers Even I talked to a manager today

Wow Andy Frasca's World Seating Podcast Just taking the do-it-yourself to another name out here. We're firing everyone. I'm just kidding. We're firing everyone. It's just Nick and I on the podcast now.

Everyone quit on the podcast. They all have something better to do, I guess. Yeah, they all have something better to do. Like go have sex with their girlfriends or whatever, but we're here. Flood City Festival edition. We have Maggie Rose, our favorite princess. I love her.

My girlfriend's been obsessed with her album lately. She even bought a t-shirt online and had it shipped to our house. It is really good. Guys. She be writing. She be writing. The festival's this weekend in Johnstown, Pennsylvania. Everyone needs to go to Flood City. It's a great lineup. We have

the Talking Heads featuring the Turquoise backup band. I guess cool, cool, cool. Can't really call it Turquoise. Daniel Donato, Frasco band, Maggie Rose, Runaway Gin, the Fish Tribute band. Who else? I don't know.

Melvin Seals from Grateful Dead. Speaking of that. Jerry Garcia band, actually. Speaking of that, that's fear, brother. Oh my God. I need to tell you all about it. Let's talk about this. It is the most stimulating thing.

It meets the expectations. More. More. I was nervous. I felt like one of those fucking hippies I was putting my finger out one because Jeremy was being a little cheap he's like we're going to wait until the last minute to get a ticket for Friday

I'm like Jeremy I'm out here he doesn't realize how famous I am and I can't I'm putting their finger up for one it looks pathetic I'm not trying to be narcissistic about this, but it's the jam scene and this is like my scene. No, I'll back you up.

You're famous. I've been to Cervantes with you. I mean, it's true, though. It's just like it kind of sucks for you to go there sometimes in certain crowds. Yeah. So we waited the last minute to buy on like Ticketmaster or whatever. $450. You saved a lot of money there, huh? Yeah. I'm like, I need a miracle.

And then Kanika texted me, come on to the owner box. And then the shit went down. Kurt Rambis. I saw Kurt. That was day two. Day one. That's right. You went twice. I went twice. The first night, it was the owner of the Knicks.

The owner, Dolan was there, his whole staff. Charles himself? Yep. Wow. Charlie was there for his brother's bachelor party. Cool. I love Charles. And then who else was there?

Shit ton. Don was. We're sitting next to- Don was? Yeah. Oh, wow. And then we're sitting next to Jason Alexander from Seinfeld. Really?

Yeah. How tall is he? Short as shit. Yeah. He's with his son who is very tall, which was very skeptical. Maybe he has ainfeld. Really? Yeah. How tall is he? Short as shit. He's with his son who is very tall, which was very skeptical. Maybe he has a tall wife. He's rich. We're just eating sushi, laughing about Seinfeld. He was nice? He was very nice. He was very quiet.

He felt like a very... He was like a thespian. He was just like... Watching the show, just taking it all in, not saying shit. He is a great actor. Maybe he's just on the the show just taking it all in not saying shit he is a great actor so maybe he's just on the mushrooms and really into it then a lot of like because it was summer league so like the head of

Adam Silver was there really? it's weird there's a lot of dead fans out there that are famous so funny to me we had because I took a bunch of acid and it was the most magical experience and I'm not you know acid and it was the most magical experience. I thought

it was going to be slow. John fucking Mayer, dude. Genius. I love John Mayer. That made me love him even more. I went and saw his solo band. Not by himself, but his band at Ball Arena last year.

It was one of the best shows I've seen in 10 years. Yeah. You keep forgetting how good he is at everything. Dude, that band is so good. The other guitar player is Isaiah Sharkey. I know. That's his other guitar player. You could tell that. I saw the intent in his pants. That dude has a hog, dude. John Mayer has a cock

on him, dude. He's got a Derek Jeter level roster of women he's slept with. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And he's still happy. I'd be bored. You would? After being with that many women? I don't know. Probably not. Actually, I don't think sleeping with supermodels

and celebrities gets that boring. But I saw the hog on him because you could see everything in like 4K or like 100K, you know, like you see crispy. I love that you noticed that. I mean, you can't. It's such a big screen. They have a hog cam.

It felt like there was one part of the scene where he's soloing and it's just his hands. Yeah. And his fucking cock. Do you think he puts that in his contract? He's like, I'll zoom in. His watch is like $400,000 watch. Oh, really? I love that with the Grateful Dead.

They're all like, peace and love. Yeah, and Bobby was wearing like an iPhone watch. Peace, love, and Rolex. Peace, love, and Rolex. Bobby was wearing Birkenstocks and an iWatch. Mayor was wearing some fucking $2,000 pants and like a $400,000 watch. Bobby's a health nut now.

He's probably keeping track of his heart rate on that thing. Bobby looked good. He keeps in his shape. He's actually keeping track of his heart rate on that thing. Bobby looked good. He's actually the youngest Grateful Dead guy by eight or ten years. He looks great. I didn't realize how short Bobby was. Yeah, he's not a heightly man. You know who looked a little kooky?

Mickey Hart. Well, he is a kooky. I've been to his house. He did this one thing. Because it was like everyone had a theme everyone had their own song but they always ended with like this big drum thing it was Mickey's brain

and you walk into the universe it's Mickey's brain you see his crazy eyes and just like this instrument he made they're just doing drum circle stuff and like everything is like... There's smells. You could put smells into the sphere.

Every seat rumbles. When you pound the kick drum, it just starts rumbling and they wait to the Mickey Hart stuff where it's just bass and just like... You feel like you're in Universal Studios, dude. It's like the Jaws ride. Oh, yeah. And then they gave us a chaperone.

Because once we were in the owner's box, then they just take care of you. So we had a chaperone. You're a god at that point. Yeah, we had a chaperone. I'm like, can we go down to the floor? Oh, they do that? And they're like, we'll take you to the floor.

They walk you down. They walk you down. They wait till you want to be finished. They walk you back up? And they walk us back up. That's the kind of stuff I like. Oh my God. It's like first class. Then they have Nobu Sushi.

What? Nobu Sushi. They have a sushi chef just in the box. They have a bartender who's specifically for you. He's like, Mr. Frasco, last time you had the espresso martini. I think we should try a little palate cleanser. I'm like,

this is the coolest... How about a Miller Lite? How about a little dose of ketamine? I've been watching you all night. How about a water? How about a fucking water, Mr. Fresco? I was like, by the second night, because everyone, all of the assistants of the owner, we were just

chit-chatting with them. They loved us. By the second night, I'm like, because we were the only ones really in the box the second night. Oh, everybody else bounced or something? Or just like, it was Diplo with us on the second night.

That's awesome. It was me, Diplo. He's such a nice guy. That guy, his name's Wes. He's also really funny. He's hilarious. And he's buff, dude. His arms.

I'm like, damn, this dude's fucking hot. You kind of got to be hot now to be a popular DJ. Yeah. The culture has shifted. So when the owners weren't there, we were talking with the bartender. They're like, Andy, welcome back. They knew me. When I checked in, it was weird

because they do all that facial recognition. I was just about to ask about that. My name, it was so weird because they had a piece of paper of who was sitting in the box the second night. They of who was sitting in the box the second night. They prepared me to be in the box the second night. Did they say that you were Jewish? Yeah, they had my face, but it was like I was wearing a Laker jersey.

They took out a picture from Google. Whoa. And like, 1988 Jew. Very Jewish. Yeah, very Jewish. But it was so funny because it was like me, Diplo, Kurt Rambis Rambis' wife

Don was like all of us in this square I'm like holy shit I'm in this I'm on this piece of paper Mount Rushmore oh yeah

and I brought Sean the second night and so Jeremy went to the first night? Jeremy went to both nights oh okay but Sean went the second night

oh yeah we were ripping ass I'd never taken that much acid in a weekend. I fucking loved it. It's like wearing Mickey Mouse ears at Disneyland. And I didn't tell you this.

So the second night, we're like, all right, let's start taking shots. Like the boss men aren't there. And then the bartender can't say, you can't. He said, Mr. Andy, when you mean shot, you mean a tequila

light ice. You can't take shots. It's not appropriate to take shots. It's kind of white trash. It's a little white trash to be in an owner's box and ripping shots. Yeah, you drink a... What's it called? Not dry. But at the hospitality... Thank you, Dolan family.

Whiskey neat. Dolan family! I've been a big fan of Charles. He's been a good friend of mine for a long time. Dude, Charles was such a good dude. And we were just talking basketball. I really love that dude. He's a humble... Very humble giant for being a billionaire.

Also a killing bass player. He's an amazing bass player. He didn't just rest on his laurels and use his whatever connections. For him to go head over heel just to help me out was just really special and really nice. I just can't thank him enough. And all the talk band, everyone.

They're just super good guys. That group is a good group. Yeah, the talk band is so fucking nice. I like this new thing they're doing with Kanika. That's smart. And all the... I'm flying out to their studio and I thing they're doing with Kanika. Yeah. That's smart. And like all the... I'm flying out to their studio and I'm going to be like a Kanika for a couple tunes too. Yeah, they've been doing that with people.

Manish Yahoo. They did it with Michael Wilber. Yeah. And then we got so excited. We're like, yo, can we come back the next day for the IMAX movie? Oh yeah.

During the day they do something, right? And that was the coolest thing of everything. It's like a planetarium thing, right? It was a 50-minute movie about how we're destroying the Earth. Oh, cool. And it was so well done. And you're seeing these fucking big ass...

I've never taken LSD three days in a row before. That's a lot on your brain. It wasn't that bad because it was those micro doses that you get in Denver. It's no worse than what you do other times. It's probably better than alcohol. I mean, I had a better experience

with VIP. For what? Did you like the music at Grateful Dead? I fucking loved it. Is that the first time you've seen Doug? That was the first time I ever gave it a chance where I'm not judging it. Acid will just say, you're in it. And you just know, stop it. It does take away your judgmental core.

Also, I just feel like the Grateful Dead's kind of like for you. You're a lyrics guy and they have good lyrics. I didn't realize how good of songs those were. They write the fuck out of songs. They write the fuck out of songs. And, you know,

that's the only tip I have on Phish. It's like, the jams there were slow. Yeah, it's more musical, I guess. It was just a four on the four pulse. It wasn't trying to get jazzy. Sometimes they'll explore it and

the train will get off the train track for a second. Yeah, but that's cool. But now they got Jay Lane, who's a good drummer. Oh, was he playing this weekend? He's their drummer. Oh, Croisman isn't on this. Okay. I thought he was for some reason. Because he was holding it down.

You could tell when Mickey was off the pocket of hair. But then... Yeah, I mean, that's kind of his thing. I mean, he's... Yeah. You know the story about his dad, right? No. It was like their original business manager and he ripped him off.

Oh, really? And that's why Mickey's not on American Beauty. He quit the band for a while. Wow. His dad ripped him off and moved to Mexico. I don't know. Some Grateful Dead fan will check the story. But the Grateful Dead community was fun.

Then we went... It was Jeff Kravitz's birthday or his wife's birthday party. Those guys are fucking ragers. Really? They party, man. What's Jeff Kravitz doing? They're ripping acid. The whole family's having fun.

They're all ripping acid. They had a big 50% party. What is he, a manager? Jeff Kravitz is like a paparazzi photographer. He's like a Jay Blakesburg, but for LA stars. That's right. I had him mixed up with a sports writer by Kravitz. They were having fun. And then they invited us to their birthday party

after the second night where they rented out a bar till 5 a.m. I saw a lot of Vegas, like the underbelly. The cool part. Yeah. And I was like, I'm like, fuck this. And then I was worried

because I thought I was going to just blow all my cash. I was like down to like 400 bucks. Then Jeremy Sulkin went on a date Sunday night. He did? Yeah. So I'm like, I'm just going to go play penny slots. You got a date in Vegas?

Yeah. Some girl he met the night before at the Kravitz party. I'm like, I'm just going to go chat my own day because we took acid before the IMAX, which was such an amazing experience.

And then we went to... Then we got invited to go play Call of Duty with Brawny James. I saw that. Call of Duty, actually. It's the new Black Ops. Yeah, Black Ops. But I realized how old I am hanging out with 19-year-old people who are seven foot tall.

Like baby faces. Some of his basketball friends. Jalen Williams from Oklahoma City. They have two Jalen Williams, don't they? Who is the power forward who's now on the Hornets but was on the Celtics and then was on the Mavs?

Oh, fuck. God damn it. Another Williams. Grant Williams. And then Scot on the Mavs. Oh, fuck. Oh, god damn it. Another Williams. Yes. Grant. Grant Williams. Yeah. And then Scotty Pippen Jr. and his brother. Michael Jordan's ex-wife's husband. And Bronny. And Bronny had security. Bronny whooped ass.

And I was like, they didn't tell me Bronny was in the building. He's better at seeing. I got a surprise for you. I turned right and he's like, what's up, man? It's Bronny. Was LeBron there? No. Well, Bronny's not that tall. He's better at seeing. I got a surprise for you. And I turned right. And he's like, what's up, man? It's Bronny. Was LeBron there? No. Well, Bronny's not that tall.

He's like your height. He's shorter. Yeah. But he's buff. He's probably more athletic though. So we did that. Oh, yeah. He's a freak.

Shout out to Call of Duty. They gave us free Apple Air phone. Like the big ones. The real ones. The headphones. We just had to take a picture and play Call of Duty for 10 minutes. They got us sick. I'll play video games.

Definitely the only white jam band in that scene. Oh, that's cool. Then they're reaching a new market. Fucking go. We're making moves. Shout out to Call of Duty. I love Call of Duty. I play it with my friends all the time. So Jeremy went to the date

and I'm like, I'm just going to smoke some cigs and play penny slots. And I hit a jackpot and I won $2,500. Holy shit. Paid for your whole trip almost. Paid for the whole trip. And then I gambled a little more, got cocky and put another $700 in the penny slots. So I came back with $1,500 and then I bought myself like a $200 dinner.

Of course. You still came out ahead of you. I mean, it was a free trip. $200 dinner is nice after a nice weekend like that. Oh, yeah. It was Bobby Flay's Amalfi. Get some nutrients in your body. Yeah.

We went to Mr. Cho's. We balled out. And then I didn't have to pay for anything. Where'd you stay? They got us free tickets at Caesar Palace. Cool. I'm sick. You should have went, dude.

I know. Basically, the whole thing was free damn well if I would have known that I didn't know that either I mean we just got lucky or it was just like maybe just the universe was just like here's a good deal

maybe it was just because you were having a hard week last week oh my god I think I'm quick I got an announcement I am done with nitrous oxide I think I'm quick. I think I have a... I got an announcement. I am done with nitrous oxide. I'm out of the game. It was making me a little pissed, I think.

Oh, man. I saw your face when I was yelling at everyone. You're like, I got to get the fuck out of this. I'm not part of this. I'm like yelling at Brianne. I was like ripping Paul Coff Paul came over. Remember I came over and you had like already done the interview. Yeah. I'm like, I already did it.

Paul Cawthon bought, brought two tanks of nitrous to my house. They were big two nights before. They're big. They're big. And they lasted four days. And I was by myself. I'm just sucking nitrous.

My brain, I felt like a fucking idiot. It was like the opposite of running. Yes. I couldn't leave my house. I felt like a fucking idiot. It was like the opposite of running. Yes. I couldn't leave my house. I felt like I was a prisoner in my own house. You were so mad at everybody. I was pissed. I couldn't sleep. I didn't know nitrous does that. It makes you testy. I guess you're not breathing oxygen.

Yeah. You're basically suffocating yourself. It was very funny to me. But I'm back. Anxiety. Anyway, I had a great time in Vegas. Sounds amazing. It was such... Honestly, I don't like Vegas.

I shit on Vegas all the time. And that was one of the best experiences I ever had in my life. Yeah. Granted, I was with celebrities. It's your shit. It's my shit. I like celebrities too. They're rich and they're cool.

Yeah. I prefer celebrities. Yeah, weird. But I'm out. I'm out of the game. I told myself that I'm done. That was funny. I'm done with shit.

We'll see. I mean, words are words. I didn't do shit last week and it was too hot. What'd you do? I mean, it was so hot. I barely left my apartment. It was 105 like every day last week. Last weekend.

It was hot. I went to Yacht Club Sunday night and got a little fucked up and watched Paris' new band. They were fire. Who's in it? Black guys that you don't know. They're fucking badass. I love that. Yeah. It was cool to just see a band of all black people.

Should we get them on volume.com? Volume.com! The land of Paris' new band, eventually. He's like, I already work with Harry Styles. Head to volume.com. All the greatest live streams, all the best stuff. Your content creator. You got to do it.

Ben Holst, the whole gang. The whole gang. They're here to help you. I haven't talked to Ben in a while. We're talking. I pitched volume on an idea. What? I can't say it.

Okay. But we're starting to... Let's go! Pitchtovolume.com where dreams are possible, people. If you got a dream, pitch it to volume. They are the best. They'll listen to you. They might not take the dream if it's not...

But they'll at least listen, which is way more than a lot of other people. I pitched them on a lot of dreams and a couple of them fell flat on the... Not the worst idea. But they listened. Especially if they start with you because you're starting

to move records now. Yeah. I think they can at least get their money back on you. Yeah. A platform is perfect for a band or an artist

to... Integrate. Integrate into the internet. Into the stream, into the video. Everything. So shout out to volume.com.

Go ahead. Still got to make stuff. Head to volume.com. Let your dreams come true. Ooh, that's a new tag team. Let your dreams come true. Just let it happen. It'll happen. You're white. Flood City people. It's this weekend. No, no. Yeah.

Speaking of... Flood City, bitch. Flood Flood City, bitch. I can't wait to do the recap with you and you won't even be there. I'll just be talking about it. I'll just zoom in the whole time. What if I just hold you on an iPhone? These people got to start booking me at their festival too. I have a pretty good band now.

Ladies and gentlemen, I just want to say thank you. You're welcome. Thank you for being... I want to say this for Nick. I love you. You're my guy. Hey, still we started from the bottom. Now we're hanging Nick. I love you. You're my guy. Thank you, Nick.

I'm not really... If I've known someone for, what, four years and they're really chill and then they blow up twice, that doesn't define them. Okay, thank you. It's called being an adult. I'm just a very extremely patient person. That's why you like taking me on the road.

It's real intimacy. I realized that my brocation with Jeremy Sulkin was just basically a very long date. Yeah, you guys did seem like you were dating a little bit. I can't remember. I hit you up like, are you going to fuck him or what? You guys were at some dinner. I realized that. I was on acid.

And he looked so excited in every picture like, am I fucked this guy? I don't know. It looked very much like you guys were on a... I was on acid. I'm like, hey, will you hold my I don't know. It looked very much like you guys were going to fuck. Which is fine. I was on acid. I'm like, hey, will you hold my wallet and my phone? I would have ran away with that bitch. He had a purse. He had like a man purse or whatever.

He's very stylish and fashionable. He's stylish. He had like six pairs of glasses. I love his house. His house is amazing. I love Jeremy. That was really good. We haven't really bonded like that.

Jeremy's a solid, nice... He's always down to just be nice. Yeah. And he's like... he's a fucking smart guy. Yeah. He was telling me about this new endeavor he has going on. It's going to be a fuck... The other thing that's kind of co-clabbing. I don't think I know about that. Holy shit. They just got...

Dude, I can't talk about it. He told me not to talk about it. Yeah, yeah. I don't even know. But god damn this thing is about to blow up. He's about to be fucking... I need a good idea. He's going to be like an eight-figure guy. If it works? If it works. How do I get in on this? No, I'm just kidding.

I was like, damn, I should have took that meeting earlier. Jeremy's smart as shit. Yeah. And he kind of like... This is going to sound rude, but I mean it as a comment. He hides it a little bit. He doesn't need you to know that he's smart. Right.

He's not pretentious about it. You know, he was the business manager for Big Gigantic. And the drummer. They just hired a business manager. He knows how to get those cheap hotels. Shout out to our business manager, Peter Frostick. I'm a fan of him. He paid me in like two days. I was reluctant about having a business manager.

They pay you money if they're good. They're good. They actually pay for themselves if they know what they're doing. I can't believe my old account fucked up my taxes that bad. Yeah. I can't believe that shit. Have a great day, guys. How long was that?

33 minutes. Holy fuck. We're cooking. Next week, it's just Nick and Andy. We're going to just talk. We're going to shoot the shit. I'm going to talk to them about Flood City Music Festival. Recap that. Johnstown. And then we're just going to shoot the shit. We're also going to talk to them about Flood City Music Festival. Johnstown. Recap that. Johnstown. And then we're just going to shoot the shit. We're also going to change the narrative

on this podcast. We're going to do a lot more Nick and Andy episodes. That's what people love. People love those. Every time we do one, people hit me up and say it's their favorite thing. Yeah. Maybe we're the product. Maybe we are the product. We thought the interviewers or interviewees were the product. But sometimes those... Yeah, we're going to do less so I don't get so burnt out.

I've been getting burnt out about doing all these interviews. Hey, get all those voicemails and ask us stuff. Yeah, what's the deal? Why isn't the voicemails not working? They are, but people... It's not stuff you can use in the podcast. Just like, hey, I saw you at this festival. It was cool. We need... Ask us for advice. Tell us what we're doing wrong. Talk shit.

We should start doing plugs about that. Try to get us to respond to you. Try to piss me off. Start an argument with me. No, don't piss us off. No, just start an argument with me or something. I like to argue. I got in one more fucking YouTube war with some fucking cucks. Not like piss off. YouTube? YouTube comments? YouTube comments.

We'll ever go on YouTube comments. They're like the most depraved comments. I don't know. Well, they're making fun of me and my friends. I started yelling back and then they started getting really personal. Oh, God. They always do. It's always the anonymous people. Yeah, it's always the guy with the burner account.

Trey's backbone. What did they say about you? I'm interested. He says some cuck shit. He just likes to hear him talk. He doesn't even know how to interview you're not making music you're not giving music any favors I'm like lead it to a guy who's

fucking has a burner account to fucking tell me what music needs fuck you bitch you are a good interviewer and maybe you do like to hear yourself talk you don't have to listen to the fucking podcast you're not required by the federal government to listen to this. If you hate it as much and don't have all these opinions, you're clearly listening every week, so you must like it on

some level. We're supposed to be happy. We're supposed to not be judging. I took acid for four days to make me realize that my soul does not need anything but love, light, and happiness. I would just stay out of YouTube comments in the future. It's just losers in there. You're not doing music any favors. Who is?

Get the fuck off, dude. You don't know shit about music. Enjoy Maggie. What an opening for Maggie. Sorry, Maggie. Oh, we were nice. Yeah. Maggie's got a new record out. Maggie just got a nice article. She finally got her flowers. No pun intended.

But Maggie just got her flowers from Rolling Stones. One more thing about Maggie. Possibly the most stylish person around. Maggie's fucking hot, dude. Always looks cool. She's a professional. She feels like a celebrity. She's everything.

She's a celebrity. She's a star. She's a star. I played a gig with her once. It was all incredible. As we get older, as our relationship grows too, it's like she's becoming like my little sister, which is fucking cool.

I like that. I think we're the same age. I think she's a couple years younger than you. Yeah. She looks about 10 years younger, but yeah. Enjoy Maggie's new song that Chris is about to play. Chris, play the new song for us, baby. No one gets out alive. God, thank God. It's a great song.

It's a great song. She got that strings and horns. And she just wrote a song with my favorite songwriter, Brent Cobb. God, they're not. It's a great song. It's a great song. She got the strings and horns. And she just wrote a song with my favorite songwriter, Brent Cobb. Oh, cool. Fucking A. Alright, I love you. Hey Nick, sorry again for being a bitch for two minutes. Please stop apologizing. Okay, bye.

Leave this world cause you know no one gets out alive. So stay a while here on the swing. Let's pretend we'll always be together. Cause there's no way that we could know when we'll go where all things go forever. Wow. Flood City Music Festival headliner and my best friend, Maggie Rose. How we doing?

What's up, babe? What's up, babe? How you doing? I'm good. I'm great. I'm at Smith Lake, Alabama, so I'm in my happy place. You are on a fucking roll right now, bud.

How are you not exhausted? I am exhausted. Look who's talking. Let's have some therapy because I'm ready to cry at any fucking moment. Same. Sometimes out of joy. That's why let's have some therapy because I'm ready to cry at every, any fucking moment. Sometimes out of joy,

sometimes out of sadness, out of insecurity. But I mean, at least we're exhausting ourselves doing what we love. That's what I have to keep reminding with. It's been a long time coming, right? Mags getting that big record deal.

Fucking yeah. Overnight. When I saw that article at Rolling Stones, I kind of cracked the fuck up. Cause it was so like, it was like a, she's like, she did. She totally did the flip.

I'm like, my girl's been working hard the whole fucking time. Just because you changed your name. Like what the fuck is wrong with these people? You don't have to talk shit. I mean, I'll talk shit for you. It was nice that they mentioned you. It's about fucking time.

Yeah. Part of it was kind of hard to read. It was hard to revisit some of those moments. I've known you for a long time, but it was nice to actually have someone understand just how convoluted this path has been

a little bit. I mean, it's so crazy. Your story is insane. Yeah. It's insane. Ten years ago is when Girl in Your Truck Song came out. That's how crazy this path has been.

And I couldn't be in a more different place than I was when I was releasing these songs to country radio. Thank God. Dude, thank God. Not because you're finding your sound, you're approaching it in the way that you want to approach it. It's got to feel powerful. It does.

It feels like something I can actually do for the rest of my life now that I'm doing it this way. But the idea of continuing on the path that I was on, that makes me fucking tired. That is not sustainable. I wouldn't be able to do that. Do you think this way is more sustainable for your mind, body, and soul?

Yes. Because before I'm referencing country radio as before you pour your entire being into the performance of one song and it just feels so one-dimensional and

the success or failure of your single at radio felt like the only thing the barometer of success was like right dependent on that now i just feel so much more multifaceted and like at any given time i can have a few different irons in the fire and different songs that people are latching on to with different audiences. And it just makes me more malleable and able to fit in different spaces. That's what I think you and I have in common. We're part of this jam scene, not because of our music, but I think because we connect with that audience that loves to see us being authentic. And we have a great band that can give everyone a different experience from day to day. Right.

Do you wish you got more successful early in your life so you're not as tired as we are now? Yes. Yeah, same. Absolutely. I love, I get this question so much after shows where people are like, do you want to be bigger than you are? Oh my God.

And I'm like, yes. But I get what they're saying because there's a nuance to it. I seem to be kind of doing things on my terms and I'm making a good living. We're not hungry and I'm getting to be busy and play shows. But people act as if I'm not going for commercial success. I am. I'm trying to.

I'm not going for commercial success. I am. I'm trying to. Everything would be easier if we had some of these looks where it just was more audience members and a bigger crowd. Yeah, I want those things. But I think I haven't really made it easy to give someone the elevator pitch for what it is that I do because we transcend genres and yeah I've kind of ignored my sound over the years and it has changed and I think that's what the Rolling Stone article was kind of trying to say is like there have been lots of reinventions but it hasn't been like me sitting down at some table with a bunch of suits being

like what's the rebranding going to be this time? It's like, no, you were just evolving. Yeah. It feels. Rebrand. It's crazy how people misidentify rebranding and just,

uh, maturing or growing old. Right. Right. Like, as if it's some, like, we're like contrived and we're going about this to flip it up for a marketing boost.

It's like, no, we're just changing as people and we're doing it in front of you. And I want to watch artists who are going to represent where they are in their life. A lot of people say to me, a lot of people say to me, man, I used to love when you just take drugs on stage. I'm like, I ain't trying to die anymore. What the fuck? You want me to take drugs at 36 years old? You want me to rip

coke on stage anymore? What is wrong with these people? It's like, can't we just grow? Yeah, do it for their entertainment Andy come on puppet put this coke in your nose in front of thousands of people

I'm like that's the thing like are people afraid no I'm not doing that I'm just over exaggerating but you know the mushrooms and shit but why do why are people afraid to grow?

I guess is my question. Like, why is it not okay to change and be someone completely different if it helps your heart and your soul? It's not safe. Right. You know, don't fix what ain't broke, they say. But I think that if you're terrified, that means you're doing it right. Yeah. That means that you're pushing forward.

The luxury of comfort is not something that we've signed up for. Right. If you want to be exciting to watch and authentic, that's like the most alive you'll ever be is if you're scared and daring to do something that isn't a guaranteed outcome. Were you scared to put out this record? It's very vulnerable, dude.

I was exhilarated by the whole process i mean i definitely knew that i had something special so i was excited but it was it was a different sound for me definitely a different group of people that i put it together with um i mean you know the story that i had the album finished before i got signed to big loud which is kind of wild and i think that was a big uh validator for me to be like oh i i made the record exactly how i wanted to and then i got signed by a music row label no less which i had kind of written off as like, they're safe and this is, I'm not going to find a home here.

So I had a lot of reasons to believe in what we were doing, but the subject matter, you know, it felt like revisiting some painful moments. I had written a lot of these songs over the pandemic or after, which the pandemic was tough for everybody, but it really rocked a lot of big

relationships in my life that didn't survive the pandemic. Like which ones? And just some working relationships. I think having the work component, um,

was tough. Yeah. And you know, when that way, I think the, the defining of our relationship, I didn't realize how much emphasis there was on, you know,

working together. Right. Um, yeah. So. Yeah. Isn't it crazy when you work with people that you love and friends and stuff? It takes it to a different level. Especially when they're being mean.

Yeah. Yes. Yeah. It sucks to feel like you are overextending yourself and trying to keep things afloat and gratitude turns to resentment. And that happens all the time. Yeah. What's... And I also lost people physically during the pandemic. Like my best friend's dad passed away. And we're all getting older and these are things that are going to happen. But I think just taking stock of gratitude

and knowing that the situation and circumstances are never going to be completely favorable for you to do something. So waiting to put an album together wasn't something I wanted to do anymore. I just had to make something beautiful. And I knew that touring was still not 100% and the art industry still hasn't recovered,

to be honest. No, it's kind of fucked still. Yeah, it totally is. Festivals aren't really selling anymore. Shows are kind of not selling out as much as they used to. Do you think people are broke? Or what do you think it is? People are just over it or oversaturated?

What do you think it is? I think a multitude of things. I think people have bought into this fallacy that concert tickets are too expensive across the board, but, I mean, you and I are selling tickets for $20 and you'll have a great night of music

come to this club and see us. So, I think that there's... Also, I do think people are struggling financially than they were a couple years ago, but I do think people are struggling financially than they were a couple years ago but I also think that there's a lot of

misinformation about how expensive it actually is to go out and see live music any town wherever you are listener you can go support a great band smaller venues too those guys have been really hurting

since the pandemic too. It's not the big arenas. It's like songbirds. places that have closed their doors forever. Yeah, I think about that. And also I think COVID got people

comfortable with just staying at home on a Tuesday instead of going out. You know, like, fuck. Going up on a Tuesday. I mean, I'm still degenerate. I just went out last night. But a lot of people aren't like that, Maggie. A lot of people are like, we're saving our energy for Friday and Saturday. And maybe that's what...

One of a kind. Dude, I mean, you ain't no spring chicken to the partying as well, Maggie Rose. We like to have fun. I like to have fun. You have more fun. You have like fancy fun though.

You're like always on a fucking... Yeah. You're always on like a fucking ocean or a fucking lake house. Just getting tan, fucking having a mojito. I'm out there You're always on a fucking ocean or a fucking lake house just getting tanned, fucking having a mojito. I'm out there in the dark crevices of a fucking Irish bar just trying to drink my sorrows.

That's a little bit... I like an Irish bar too. I know. I'm trying to make some changes just from a health standpoint. You over it? I'm a little over it.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm a little over it. I told you my mom doesn't drink and she's like the most fun and weird she's ever been. Yeah. She just hit her thousandth day. Wow. And she just seems so clear and sure of herself.

And part of me, there's a big allure to that for me. Yeah. And also, if Austin and I start a family, then I got to be on my toes there. Little baby crawling around. Yeah, you can't be Auntie Maggie. You got to be Mommy Maggie.

I'm really good at the auntie thing. That's auntie fun there. And I'm like, goodbye. Here you go. Damn. Hold on. You guys are talking about having kids and shit yeah oh my god i want to be an uncle can i be an uncle this is exciting of course yes you got big uncle energy what okay let's talk about that let's let's list the pros and cons of having a kid what are you nervous about if to have a kid and what are you excited about?

I'm nervous about messing up this person's life. You won't mess it up. What I'm excited about is that it will be another person in the world who's loved immensely. What could be wrong with that?

Yeah. I think they will have an extremely exciting life uh they'll be very well adjusted because i'm gonna strap that kid to my chest and continue touring i was talking to grace potter about the uh at the fat shawnee cave where we were a couple weeks ago together so much fun you were so cute with my nieces there. Oh my God. I thought I scared them. I was like,

Hey, Uncle Andy. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. When I got on stage with you,

I was like, please keep in mind my nieces are in the audience. What did Grace say about childhood? She just said it's really hard. And I appreciated her honesty because of course she waxed poetic about how beautiful and transformative it is. But she's like, it's tough to be a woman and be a front person and be a mother.

And I have to, with my partner, we made it very clear that like, there's going to be a mother and i have to with my partner we made it very clear that like there's going to be a division of duties that might deviate a little bit from your traditional idea of what like the family unit looks like and he's doing a lot of things that you would i guess uh i mean i don't want to throw us back to the 50s but that you would normally designate to the mom. Right. And I think, you know Austin, and he's the greatest, so responsible. And we have an understanding that I would really need a lot of help.

And I don't want to, I have so many ambitions for myself in my career, but I also just know that that maternal instinct is really getting stronger and stronger. Holy shit. Becky Bliss and Liz Longley, these two artists who are amazing. They both have little girls. We woke up this morning and I just was like, my ovaries are exploding. Oh my God. They're so cute. Singing Twinkle Twinkle Little Star and I wake up and there's sweet little voices. But yeah, it would be really

fun. You're like, after you have that, you're like, Austin, come into my room right now. It's go time. No, I hear you. As I get older, I'm on the fence about having kids, but it's got to be some internal

fucking for a woman. I mean, you're growing this fucking thing in your body, dude. Even through the years For a woman. I mean, you're growing this fucking thing in your body, dude. And it's like... No. And it's like... Even through the years of evolution and stuff like that, we were raised to procreate, right?

Yeah. Yes. And it's definitely like a flip switch in me. But it would change a lot of stuff. And I hate inconveniencing other people, but that would affect the whole unit, the whole

band, everybody. I'd be like, guys, we're all pregnant. We're having a baby, collectively. It'd basically be like that. The whole band would have to raise that fucking baby. we're having a baby collectively it'd basically be like that the whole band would have to raise that fucking baby

because you're not going to stop touring bud you're not going to stop touring it's not in your DNA to not stop working you are a workaholic like me this is why we're close friends and this is why we don't have to talk but know when something's off right

yes and I mean the highs are super high the lows are very low there's like a volatility to what we do that no i i wouldn't want i i would want some stasis for this child if i were to bring a person into the world i wouldn't want their environment to be so crazy like i was talking to my mom last week and actually talking about drinking and and why it's easy to why you see some people on the road get why it's easy to, why you see some people on the road get caught up in all these substances. And it's because like, you're sort of detached from where you are physically.

Right. Every day you wake up in a different town. And I think then you're like, well, it doesn't really matter where I am physically. Why would it matter where I am mentally? You know? That's sad.

You kind of, right. mentally. That's sad. Right, but I think if you're aware of it and you just try and be in the moment and go to a local restaurant or get a sense of the

town you're in, it does help. And I think you can just feel I'm just trying to be more more in tune right now and not let it blur by maybe your ass needs to get knocked up

because like because kids make you present dude you know yeah and I think what I've found my friends who have kids they say i'm like how's your creativity affected and how are you writing a lot and like how prolific do you feel and usually their answer is some variation of uh i'm more intentional about the free time that i have i don't squander it away because i know they're going to have a nap at this

time. This is when I'm going to write this idea that I've been wanting to write. So maybe you're just a little bit more... You use your time better. Yeah. And like, yeah, that's what everyone I interview as kids

and I talk about the songwriting prices versus when inspiration comes to you versus inspiration has to come you as kids and I talk about the songwriting prices versus when inspiration comes to you versus inspiration has to come now because I have an hour and a half until this fucking baby wakes up and it kind of puts your ass on the timer

but like you've already created all the skills your whole life like it's still going to come out you know it's like less of a lazy effect of like oh when it when it comes, it comes. Vessel, man. The fucking vessel. It's like, I got to get the vessel right now because this kid is going to

start throwing up on my fucking shoulder in two hours. I need to conjure this idea immediately. Yes. Quickly. Right now. You've been riding a lot. I've been talking to Austin. You're been writing a lot. I've been talking to Austin. You're still just doing writing rounds.

Are you ever going to take a break, Maggie? No. That's my girl. I want to clap to that. Let's go. Let's fucking go, Maggie. No, I don't want to take a break. When I want to take a break,

I'll take one. I like to relax and I like to have fun, but get it while the getting's good. I feel inspired. I have to write so

many shitty songs to get one good one, so I have to make lots of efforts. And I want to make a next record. I wrote with Brent Cobb yesterday. I know him. He's my favorite. Whoa, whoa, no, no, no, no. Really?

Yes. He came over to my house and we had the best day ever. And we wrote this Otis Redding kind of vibe. That's what better way to spend a day. That's why I got to move to Nashville. He lives in Georgia, but

he was in town. He has a house out here though. He has a little apartment for the publishing company. Yes. Yeah. Oh, man. Damn. See, that's the problem with Denver. There's not enough

songwriters. They're all just really great guitar players and shit. I can't just call 10 guys during the day and let's write some songs. That's the beautiful thing about Nashville. My question is call 10 guys during the day and, you know, let's write some songs, you know,

like that's the beautiful thing about Nashville. And my question is like, when you write a shitty song, do you get bummed out or is this like, fuck? And he's like, all right, that was fine, but let's move on tomorrow. Like I can't handle writing a shitty song. Well, I mean, I was being self deprecating I try to never walk away from a shitty song and I don't let it get down

get me down too much there's always something good to be taken away from just the effort of writing it makes you look inward or you know you at least you kind of practice guitar Like it makes you look inward or, you know, you,

at least you kind of practice guitar all day while you were strumming through this idea. Right. So there's improvement gleaned from it. But I mean, I guess I gotta keep moving. Yeah. Not worry about it.

Do you, but I don't But I don't, I don't, I don't ever think I'm like, oh, that song is shitty. Right. I just wouldn't finish it

if it were really that bad. What do you beat yourself up the most about? Um, a lot of stuff. I think I can be very critical of the live show. If I did not give myself the opportunity to sing the best I could because I stayed up too late the night before or didn't get enough sleep

or let anxiety get the best of me. Sometimes the first night back of tour can be my worst show because I just get too in my head about getting back into the mode of things. Right. I'm just not in it in that moment the way I need to be.

Like a creature habit? Like you're a creature habit for the moment that you've already been in and it's hard to get into a new moment? Yes. I'm like that too. The second night of tour is always a great show.

Right. But sometimes the first night of tour, I get a show. Right. But sometimes first night of tour, I get a little bit in my head, like imposter syndrome. And I need to like gas myself up again to be like, okay, I'm supposed to be here and doing this. Do you ever get that way?

Like, yeah, all the time, all the time. I'm like, it's always the first day or two. I'm like, fuck, I do not want to do this, you know? Cause I'm like so's always the first day or two I'm like fuck I do not want to do this you know because I'm like so absorbed in the podcast mode or like

if I've done like 10 interviews in a row and I'm finally getting better at like what almost like you're just shifting to tour Andy yeah it takes a second sometimes it's like adjusting

from songwriter Maggie to fucking live performer Maggie. Right. And I also want everyone to be happy on the road. I get very concerned

with, you know, is everyone doing okay? Is everyone feeling like they want to be here? I don't know why I do that. Because you're the band leader. You got to do that. You're the boss. You don't want to fucking have a bad crew

who's fucking angry and pissed off. That's not bad to always think if people like you. But you also got to let that shit go. Because they're there for a reason. Yeah. Well, also you're traumatized. We won't talk about why from past

situations. You know what I'm saying? That's all we'll talk about about that. But that triggers us to feel like, oh, fuck. I had a bad situation one time. Is it always going to be like that? That's why I think it was hard for me to commit to a girl. Like, fuck. I finally

got a girlfriend, Maggie. You do? Yeah. It's this comedian. We'll talk about it off air. Tell me. I'll tell you. I'll tell you. Fuck it. I'm not scared. This comedian, she's trying to clean me up and shit. She's flying out. I'm coming. Are you going to be in Nashville

next week? Yes. Until Thursday. Until Thursday. Yeah. Okay, cool. I fly in Thursday. She's coming into town too. Oh my gosh. I'm so excited. Yeah, we got to go have dinner or something.

You got to meet her. And I mean, you with a comedian, I don't know how you could be more funny. Oh, no, no. I can't be funny. This is going to be good. Yeah. Are you nervous about being funny around her?

Yeah, I can't tell jokes. She laughs, but she's smart. Of course. Yeah. But we'll talk. We'll talk about that. So speaking of that, what makes,

I mean, you're with Austin all the time. How are you not wanting to like fucking throw him out of a window? I think he wants to throw me out of a window sometimes. No, he loves this shit out of you dude cause he's your manager too he's your manager too I know right

are we insane I do not recommend it for everybody I say that all the time I'm like please wait carefully if you're going to work with your partner right he's so patient and if you're going to work with your partner.

He's so patient. And we have a really great yin and yang kind of vibe where he's a little OCD. He's very organized. He's the kind of guy whose inbox is cleared out every day. I'm the person who has like 520 text messages. That's's my girl it gives him anxiety um and like i mean it gives me anxiety too but that's just i've operated at this level for so long that i'm just okay with the chaos. Right. Um, and we are on, on the road. We have pretty different schedules.

Like he's helping with the merch and he's helping load in. He's also taking meetings all day. And we're kind of like two ships passing in the night when we're out on the road, but we do have our little room in the back of the bus that you've seen yeah to get to sleep in the same bed and working with him allows and the fact that he's on the road with me it lets me be as ambitious as i am and as i want to be i don't feel guilty about leaving my partner at home and i also feel like it removes me from the center of all of this because I

share it with Austin. We really collaborate on so much together. And he's, he's such an encouraging person that like, I know I wouldn't have put this album together if it weren't for him. Right. person that like I know I wouldn't have put this album together if it weren't for him right he I was blue and you know I think part of it was you know my own podcast interviewing all these women and listening to their music and their stories like that got me excited to start putting an album together but he also was hearing what I was writing and was like, you're, there's an album clearly coming together.

You know, the great part when you first showed me the, the album at your house and we blasted that shit. We were so excited, so happy. The same excitement that I saw in your eyes wasn't Austin's eyes. And that's special. You know,

it's not like you guys are really a team. Like, I wonder like, does the work energy ruin the intimacy energy sometimes? Because you guys are just working with each other so much. Or does it make the intimacy

better? Yeah, it rarely hurts it. And of course, there are times where logistics can be sort of uh kind of it can wear us down just having to talk about scheduling and like all that technical stuff um but the intimacy is intensified by it because we love what we're doing right and bonding over music and ideas and dreaming and and like we both have so much belief in it that it's fun to

just dream up what's next and then see them come to fruition. Like that's a pretty awesome thing that's connected us to be like, we said we'd do this and now it's happening. It's kind of dreamy. Yeah. It's dreamy, but can you, can you like, is it like,

can you offend him easier or can, or are you afraid to offend him because you end up, you have to sleep in the same bed with him at the end of the night? No, I think, uh, it's respect for each other and professionalism and knowing what his capabilities are.

If I'm critical of him, it's because I know that he can adjust it and he can do something about it and vice versa and if you weren't telling me the honest truth it was like hey you definitely could have done this better if you didn't let me know i would think that uh he didn't think i was capable of addressing the issue. But yeah, I mean, we can certainly offend each other. And music is a very personal thing. Right.

And what we're doing. And you don't want to undermine his confidence too. Like in a meeting, oh, you dealt with this person differently. If I am critical of anyone in that regard, I think that you can make them self-conscious. And I would never want it to go that way. But yeah, we got to set each other straight when it's necessary. Is it hard not to be mean because you guys are so close? Does that make sense? Yes.

Yeah. I think I probably would be much more, I'd have a little more tact in how I would deliver a message to someone else if I wasn't married to them. I can be a little direct sometimes. Oh, Maggie. I've seen it, queen. I can be a little direct sometimes. Oh, Maggie. I've seen it, queen.

Maybe loaded with... Right. Maybe too much emotion charged in some things that I... You're just so passionate. That's not a bad thing. Yeah. You are a very passionate person about everything you do. I could see in your eyes. You really give a fuck. I do. in your eyes, you really give a fuck.

I do. A lot of people don't give a fuck. A lot of people are just like, oh, I just have to do this. I don't know. I could never live like that. And I get why it's scary to think about having a kid because you give a fuck about so much things all the time that if that kid comes out, you could not sleep straight if you do not give a fuck about this thing.

No. And that's why I stay busy. Yeah. It's because I care. And I also, the thought of being dead in the water and not having momentum behind what I'm doing terrifies me. Right. and not having momentum behind what I'm doing terrifies me. Right. But I also, yeah, I know that this job has dictated so much about family planning

and big life choices that I have allowed to be shaped very much by music and touring. And that idea of having a child even two years ago, before this album was done, before I had a label, and with everything up in the air at the pandemic, it was totally off the table. I liked the thought of being a mom, but I was like, absolutely not. It's not feasible. And

that kid shouldn't be brought into this situation with how up in the air everything was. I feel a little more stability now, but like, this is the most stable I'll feel today. You know, we only got

what we have in front of us. To be honest, through the years I've been hanging. You know, we only got what we have in front of us. To be honest, like through the years I've been hanging out with you, it feels like together we're maturing. Yes. I'm very proud of us. I'm very proud of us. Cause normally we are early in our careers.

We would, you know, get down on ourself on other things. And I feel like we're just kind of letting the flow come. You know? And not letting other things that we

have no control of get us down. We only could do what we can do, right? Yes. That's the song that Brent and I wrote yesterday. Like just that feeling. It's called cool breeze. And it's about like, I think just having faith, knowing that like you're talented and we're trying to be the best people we can be good people and leaving people happy.

And I think that's, that's work that I'm proud of. And that's, like I, we've created a nice life for ourself. Right. Meaning I think, you know, we've created friendships and hopefully facilitated experiences for people that are good memories.

And like, that's good work. So why are we still sad? Why are we on antidepressants? Why are we on antidepressants and nitrous? That's the human condition, my friend. Well, I think it's also because not a lot of people do what we do

and it's hard to relate with people outside of the fucking circus and it's hard to if we're with each other every day and all our homies are with each other every day and traveling together it would feel less lonely but we're all on different paths

and we see each other for 10 seconds. Like, how are you doing? Are you good? Are you good? Are you okay? Are you okay? Okay, I gotta go over here. You gotta go over here.

Like if we were just here marinating with each other, that sounded sexual. I didn't mean it like that. But you know what I mean? Like if we're here, just fucking just co-existing, I feel like we'd be less sad.

I just think like this music thing, we're all doing the same thing, but we're all doing it all at different times. And that's like, it's not like everyone has a nine to five at the corporate. We're all in it together and we're so more connected. And we're so fucking alone. And so alone.

I know. That's what I think about on the road. I'm like, I'm going to see several hundred people later. Yeah. And you think like, how social is that? But I've been walking around this town by myself. Like my AirPods in alone all day until soundcheck.

Right. And then you go sit in front or you go perform for people. They all had breakfast with their families. Maybe they walked their dog. They had such a normal experience and now they're at a show. And you're there with them, but there's a divide. It's lonely. But it's also, we've just picked a very deviant path.

And I think it's such a privilege and such a joy, but we kind of have to walk it. And it can be lonely. If it was easy, it'd be the way, Maggie Rose. But it's not. But look what all the cool shit we get to do.

You're out here there on a lake on a Tuesday. Yeah, on a lake. I'm going to Vegas to go see Grateful Dead drop acid tomorrow. I'm like, it's going to be crazy. No, I heard it's amazing.

Oh my god. Did you go? You go to YouTube? Oh, I forgot. you're a deadhead and a fishhead. Yes, I got to see Gamehenge at Madison Square Garden. You did. That cracked me up

when I found out you're a fucking fishhead, dude. I'm like, damn, you got a full circle of music, dog. Very well-rounded. Very well-rounded. Tonight's-rounded my first concert who was and i twain shut the fuck up and then yeah and then your last concert is trey anastasio gamehenge i was actually at uh i saw my last concert was trey anastasio at wolf trap with the national symphony orchestra dude i took my parents and they were like whoa this is so fun My last concert was Trey Anastasio at Wolf Trap with the National Symphony Orchestra.

Dude. I took my parents and they were like, whoa, this is so fun. Just fucking... What's the crowd like at a fucking Trey Anastasio show? Were your moms like... Well, my mom had the best time. We parked and my mom packed chicken salad and cheese and crackers. And we had the most elegant little tailgate. And then this guy comes up to my dad.

Hey, can I smoke here? My dad's like, sure. Uh, have at it. And it was like people dressed in really, uh,

proper clothes for the orchestra. And then other people dressed in tie-dye and total look outfits. It's a really interesting hodgepodge of people. I like the intersectionality of it all. It's kind of amazing how music does that, right? That's the one thing I love about

that. What made me fall in love with music is seeing the crowd there'll be cougars there'll be hippies there'll be kids there'll be rich people poor people, sad people, happy people

and at the end of the show they all come out with the same experience and that's pretty magical it's what I mean there's so few things that actually are that unifying out with the same experience. And that's pretty magical. It's what, I mean, there's so few things that actually are that unifying. It sounded like you were singing Toby Keith's

I Love This Bar. Who's your daddy? Who's your friend? We got rich folks. We got rednecks Well I love you I could talk to you for hours

I want you to go enjoy your day off You only get a lot of days off What's up? I have today off But I'm going to go write a Christmas song It's July Maggie This is the time. Go out.

No, I'm stopping you right now. Go out there. No Christmas songs today. This is all mental health awareness day. Get out there. Go on the lake. Christmas song on the lake. I love you so much.

You work so hard. When do you think Christmas songs are written? In December? No. They're going to come out in December. I know. Everyone's in fucking flip-flops. As soon as Halloween's over,

Mariah Carey's out there. Oh, yeah. She's out there in her flip-flops talking about Santa Claus in Hawaii. Yeah. That'll be me. Oh, I forgot to ask you. How was your Hawaii trip?

It looked like a blast. So fun. Fun? It was so much fun. I went swimming with turtles. Oh. We did go to Hana. Yeah.

And it was like Jurassic Park, just real with no dinosaurs. Oh my God. It looked like amazing. You look so happy there and there. You and Austin. I had the best Mai Tai I've ever had. Yeah. Austin said.

And Austin played a cajon with me. I heard. He told me. He's like, they weren't going to give him a stipend. So we're putting him on a cajon he's in the band so we can get you all the world treatment Maggie Rose is getting

I'm like I fucking love it he played a cajon? yeah he was amazing and it was very romantic and cute it was a 90 minute solo acoustic show oh my god and he played cajon? yeah just another hat he's a great drummer acoustic show which... Oh my god. And he played Cajon? Yeah.

Just another hat. He's a great drummer. Did you guys like make love for hours after that? Just like straight up like White Lotus style? Mahalo. Mahalo. Babe, that Cajon playing was so hot.

Let's make love on this beach. There are dolphins. Babe, there's a dolphin right there. Let's make love in front of this dolphin. That dolphin. Watch. Don't look away, dolphin. Keep your eyes on the prize, dolphin.

The show is about to begin. We're here, dolphin. Keep your eyes on the prize, dolphin. The show is about to begin. We're here, dolphin. I love you so fucking much. I could talk to you for hours. Go do your thing. Go fucking write the Christmas song. Go do everything. Everyone, see one of the headliners of Flood City Music Festival. I will be playing with Maggie

Rose. I'm excited. Two weeks. We're ready. I'm going to see her ass in two weeks. Go out there Pittsburgh Johnstown Pennsylvania show up for our girl Maggie honestly I've been watching her career for years and she's just on fucking fire and the band sounding tight

and everyone's happy you guys really do like I was so happy Shawnee Cave was the best set I've ever heard of you and like you're just getting so confident in like your songs and like Shawnee Cave was the best set I've ever heard of you. And you're just getting so confident in your songs. The songs are fucking good. You're singing and playing acoustic.

It's just a fucking show now. It was a show before, but now it's like you are Maggie fucking Rose. Now it's like you're a bad bitch, dude. Let's fucking go. Go get preggos out there on that lake. Let's go Let's fucking go Go get preggos Out there on that lake Let's go find

Let's go to second tier Maggie Rose I want to see Mama Rose Next record's gonna be called Mama Rose Okay I like it Mama Rose

Get out there Mama Get out there and show Delaware What a real artist can do out there Okay Yes sir You got it I love you what a real artist can do out there, okay? Yes, sir. You got it. I love you. Tell Austin hello.

Don't work too hard. It's your day off. Write that Christmas song and get back on that fucking chair and relax. Drink water. I'm going to... Hire a masseuse. I'll Venmo you a hundred bucks. Go get a masseuse. Go get someone from Delaware. Get out there. Have them rub your someone from Delaware. Get out there. Have them rub your feet, bud.

Get out there. Yeah. I like it. Don't let Austin do it. He won't do it as passionate because he's working all the time. Get some guy or girl. Get a lot of things. I don't know. Masseuse. Sorry, Austin. Sorry. Sorry. No, we're going to get a guy named

like some Samoan dude. Just fucking just flip you over. Jason Momoa. Let's go. Momoa. He is a big fan of the podcast, Ashley.

Jason, find your girl Maggie. She needs back rub. Yes. All right, bub. Love you. Go have fun. Be safe in this world. And I'll catch you soon. You too. Love you. Yes. All right, Bob. Love you. Go have fun. Be safe in this world. And I'll catch you soon.

You too. Love you. Bye. Bye. Thanks, Mac. You tuned in to the World's Health Podcast with Andy Fresco. Thank you for listening to this episode produced by Andy Fresco,

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