Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 281: Miles Doughty (Slightly Stoopid)

Episode Date: July 30, 2024

In the heart of countless battles, where the roar of conflict and the weight of sacrifice formed the backdrop of their days, two Denver musicians forged a bond that would outlast the scars of tour. From the stage to the afters (and the Corey Feldmans that came between), a friendship formed between Andy & Nick that was both refuge AND beacon. In other words: we're talking drugs and drama, people. Aaaaaand on the Interview Hour, Slightly Stoopid joins the fray as Andy sits down with multi-instrumentalist, Miles Doughty! With vibes so smooth, you'll feel like you're sitting on a sandy beach drinking a tasty cocktail... Or are you, really?? Welcome to the MATRIX, yall. (Turns out it's been a simulation all along) Why not crack open a Belching Beaver and enjoy the ride? 110001010100100001 (idk drunk) And guess what... now you can see a cool dog by the name of Denzel should you choose to watch this episode *exclusively* on Volume.com... now in color!  Generally speaking, we are psyched to partner up with our buddies at Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. Call, leave a message, and tell us if you think one can get addicted to mushrooms: [phone]  Check out our new album!, L'Optimist on all platforms Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out our good friends that help us unwind and sleep easy while on the road and at home: dialedingummies.com Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Arno Bakker

San Diego, baby. And we're live. Andy Frasco's world-saving podcast. Still solo. Riding that train. Not high on cocaine. Two weeks. Riding that train.

Two weeks, no blow. Oh, yeah. And Two weeks No nitrous Wow The record I'm back You're like a nun

I'm so back that I said I don't care I'll even wear shorts To this reggae podcast I mean We got Miles from Slightly Stupid On the podcast tonight

That was a great interview Shorts and sandals Is appropriate for a reggae podcast That's right I brought my Birkenstocks And I got my shorts on and sandals is appropriate for a reggae podcast. That's why I brought my Birkenstocks and I got my shorts on. I am ready for this reggae podcast. Yeah, he was a great interview. He was awesome. I didn't know

what to expect. Oh, yeah. I've hung out with him because I kind of knew, but I'd never had a bro like a bro, like a bro hang. That was like an hour of bro hanging. He was a good dude. Yeah. Slightly stupid. One of the biggest bands in the reggae scenes. Are they the biggest band ever from San Diego?

Lenny Kravitz. Lenny Kravitz from San Diego? Yeah. Mr. Trivia, how did you know that? Carl Dunson. Oh, cool. Oh, yeah! Dude, Lenny's got a cock on him.

Did you see that? What are we, 45 seconds in the pod? We talked about John Mayer's penis too much. Have you seen that video of Leonard Kravitz? He was trying to do the splits on stage. He was wearing these leather pants. Oh, yes. And it split right through the seam.

And it was a horse cock. You got the Hunger Games. That's how he got that Hunger Games. It's like a Trojan horse. Hunger Games to act and roll. That's how he got the Hunger Games That was his second audition Andy slept with Lisa Bonet That's very impressive

They had a kid together Zoe Kravitz is beautiful You forget how old Lenny is Yeah he's older because he doesn't look old He looks 20 years old. He might be pushing 60. He's in his 50s, I bet. I love his Instagram.

A good follow is Lenny Kravitz because they're making him do all this stuff. They're like, Lenny, let's go to Target and just walk around. You know I'm cool, right? I'm cool. I don't go to Target and walk around. They hired some fucking social media

girl to like, Hey Lenny, I got an idea. Let's go to Target and pretend like you're selling your own record. He's like, what the fuck? I'm 60 years old. He's like, where's the metal necklaces? That's where the section I need to be in. You know. Reggae scene's fun.

You know what scene's kind of cult-y? We just had first-hand experience of it. Bluegrass, maybe? The bluegrass community. Relax. The bluegrass community. All right.

You know what? Ooh. World premiere. World premiere. The bluegrass community needs to fucking relax. Yeah, guys. It's just songs. It's not even songs. It's not

even songs. It's just G major. It's just fucking G major. Where were we?

Showing us the space. They wouldn't even let us in the front gate. They wouldn't even let us

in the front gate. They said, sorry, this is, we can't allow people in here.

There's people studying guitar in here. I'm like, we're having a banjo camp right now. Like,

we're not going to storm the Capitol here. We just want to see in here. I'm like, we're having a banjo camp right now. We're not going to storm the Capitol here. This isn't January 6th. We're going to storm... We took our germs! Denver flags. Yeah, Denver flags. Just like a jam band, like a ketamine flag. It's like the

chemical formula for ketamine on a flag. Why is the bluegrass scene pretend to be so fucking serious? Well, they're very obsessed with tradition properties. We just want to look at this campground for two seconds. Can we just look at it because we're going to do business and

a lot of the bluegrass scene. They just shunned us down. You can't go on that roof. It's sloped. Jesus. Fuck you. Christ. You know you know you know joe's about to delete that one yeah whatever oh god i hate well i hate pretentious jam people people hate change people hate change people hate change that's why joe biden should just stay in the race and be president until he dies. And you know,

people hate change. Bluegrass traditionalists, blues traditionalists, even jam band traditionalists are fucking annoying, dude. Yeah, just any true. I don't, I hate tradition in general. It's so bad. I think most traditions are bad. Yeah. I don't know. Fuck them. Oh my God. Oh my God. The reggae scene is going to be like, I thought this was an optimistic

podcast. We are being optimistic. Reggae people are pretty chill. They're not too traditional, obviously. I want. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. The reggae scene is going to be like, I thought this was an optimistic podcast. We are being optimistic. Reggae people are pretty chill. They're not too traditional, obviously. I want to do... I want to make... If you look at what's blowing up in that scene, it's not like... I want to make a pessimistic reggae band. So it's a reggae band that just like... All the lyrics are like... The world's over. The world's dying.

Dystopian reggae. Dystopian reggae. That'd be good, actually. I would probably actually check that out. Everything's in a minor key. Everything's in a minor key. Yeah, they're not traditionalists. They're like, you know, they have all these like new kind of like new versions of reggae that are out. Who do you think has the biggest dick in the reggae scene?

The reggae scene? I don't know enough about the reggae scene to comment. Might be somebody in the Whalers. That's fucking brilliant. that's fucking brilliant what a day who do you think the reggae scene is voting for in November I think it's a cross a cross section of political ideology

I know where you're going here I'm just saying you're trying to stereotype you told me not to stereotype people in here I'm not stereotyping it's a cross section that's half and half no no no well they, no, no.

Well, they present. No, no, no, Nick. Don't you fucking backpedal now. You think all the reggae scene are a bunch of Republicans. Just more than I thought there was going to be. Now you're backpedaling. No. Hey, Chris, play the tapes from two years ago.

Play the tapes before we were in the reggae scene of Nick talking in the beginning of the music were in the reggae scene of Nick talking in the beginning of the music scene about the reggae scene. It's a little bit like that, though. You're saying they're all Republicans because they have beach houses. Well, they're just richer than I realized when I walked through that crowd. I mean, you got to be rich to live

on a beach. When I think of reggae, it's true. It's pretty expensive real estate. Pretty expensive real estate. If you're like hanging out on the beach five days a week and you're listening to reggae, I mean, you might have some dough. You know, I found out what's fascinating in the interview, just how different San Diego and LA are,

but they're so close. I know. It could be two different worlds completely. It's completely two different worlds. San Diego's like chill. They're all helping each other out. That's what I loved about Miles. He was just like, hey, man.

Yeah, LA people are all little bitches, I guess. Yeah, I am a little bit. They're jealous. We are jealous of how happy they are. They're happy without taking drugs. They're happier than you for sure. San Diego people are way happier than LA people. Why?

The weather? Weather. They're just... That town is beach. They're good looking too. Yeah, Miles is hot. I guess San Diego is like more on the beach, isn't it? San Diego is on the beach.

There's like inland San Diego. LA is too, but not really. Like, not like that. Right? Not like that. That's a beach town. Yeah. And LA's too big.

And like, how are you going to bitch when it's always 75? And there's no actors in San Diego, which is nice. It's like, if you like, it's like they wear sandals and eat burritos all day. Sounds good. No one ever leaves. Sounds like a fucking great life. You never meet anybody from San Diego because they never leave.

My sister just moved there and she's never leaving. Why would she? I kind of want to live there. Don't they both live there? There's like, but there's like, there's a cool area,

but then also there's like the fucking marine, like the, the fucking. Yeah, but every town has a shitty area. I know, but it's like,

there's like, there's a really cool surfer and like the miles of the world. And then there's like the area. I know, but it's like, there's like, there's a really cool surfer and like the miles of the world. And then there's like the nerdy ass fucking, you know, corporate people and the Marine people. It's the Marines. My brother was there.

My brother was a Marine there. You know, Top Gun. Yeah. Tom Cruise didn't like it. All those Top Gun people. That's Navy. But yeah,

I mean, that's what I mean. Navy. I think the Navy's there. But no, so is the Marines. The Marines is actually technically part of the Navy, you know, but there. I think the Navy's there. No, so is the Marines. The Marines is actually technically part of the Navy.

But there is an underbelly. In Top Gun, they're in the Navy. They're a little nerdy. Yeah, I can see that. They're not funny. I know that. Yeah, it's a little sterile. Yeah. We're too busy fucking hot people. I like Ocean Beach. Ocean Beach is sick.

Marco is in Ocean Beach from the floozies. Yeah. I could see myself if I had a bunch of money. It's not a place for poor people. It's not a place for poor people. No. Julie loves San Diego. She likes to go there. Yeah.

I don't know. It's not really anything to add to. I want to be in the reggae scene. Why? I don't know. Everyone seems happy. They're all like... No one's happy. It doesn't seem like it's a competitive scene.

Everyone's kind of rooting each other on. It's probably just because you're not in it yet. But even like... I see Stranger and they're like kind of the outsiders. Yeah. And they crush a show every night. Yeah. And they all still are accepted about them,

but you know, I've done only a couple reggae shows and I haven't been invited back. They not like you? I think they like me. I think they're intimidated by me. You're a lot of energy

compared to the bands they listen to. You have a lot more gimmicks and bits and just, they don't do that. They want traditional blues. You know what I mean? They're like,

like purified water. They want you to play that traditional blues. I know what I mean? They're like, like purified water. They want you to play that traditional blues. I told you about that time when I had a bunch of those reggae bands in my house. I think so. And you know,

the jam scene, they're all about like whipping coke and shit. Yeah. And they just brought a bunch of weed and water. They probably like purified water and their dog.

That sounds kind of nice, actually. It seems like a healthier fan base. Just weed and a dog. That sounds way better than cocaine and some dude with a beard telling you about his high school. I mean, it's hard to do cocaine and then listen to reggae.

You know, like... Yeah. They're trying to really slow down the tempo. Like a nine? Yeah. It's not really cocaine music. It's not really cocaine. It's weed music. It's weed music. It's like Sunsets and fucking bass. Carnia Sadebriand.

I like how they have a lot of low end in their music. I mean, dubstep sort of came out of reggae. What? What do you mean, what? Oh, dubstep. Yeah, yeah. Dub and then turned into dubstep. Do you think Jamaicans are pissed that white people took reggae?

Probably. Yeah? I mean, why wouldn't they be? They're like like goddammit white people take everything from us yeah but they you know

they have the king of it all they have the Marley they have the Wailers they have the Marleys I mean they still do well they did Ballerina I think last time right

or maybe and Steel Pools they're dope fucking killer yeah and there's good white boy reggae bands and there's definitely a lot of bad ones

that are terrible too but you can say that about any genre I guess Slightly Stupid actually really does fucking fancy Slightly Stupid is on the good and there's definitely a lot of bad ones that are terrible too, but you can say that about any genre. Slightly Stupid actually really does fucking fantastic. Slightly Stupid is on the good spectrum, I think, of that. I don't like when the white guy

reggae bands, also this can speak to any genre, sort of like it becomes like they're pretending to be from a culture they're not. Just be what you are. Or San Diego Surfers playing, because they have a little punk rock in their shit too. Because they come out of Sublime Tree. Yeah. What I hate is when white

dudes get all the dreads and pretend they're Rastafarian and shit. They keep on shouting Zion and shit. Yeah, shut the fuck up. You're from Iowa, you know what I mean? Or whatever, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's like, we come from the purified waters of Zion! I'm like, you're from Ketchum, Idaho.

Would you rather go to an all-reggae day of music or all-bluegrass? All-reggae? Same. I couldn't even... They got horns and drums. Yeah. I love bluegrass, but like...

I couldn't listen to it all fucking day. It is a lot more similar. I can listen to reggae all day. There's not that much difference between most of the bluegrass bands. Yeah, if I'm outside, I'm is a lot more similar. I can listen to reggae all day. There's not that much difference between most of the book. Yeah. If I'm outside, I'm drinking a Slurpee,

you know, because I have a burrito. Their goal is to sound like a certain thing. So they're all going to sound alike. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Smoking a big old hog leg joint. Hell yeah. Put some sunglasses on, put my feet in the sand. What are you, Jimmy Buffett? Sounds nice though. Going to Margaritaville, getting someett? Sounds nice, though. Going to Margaritaville, getting some fucking jalapeno poppers.

It sounds nice. Sounds like a nice life. Yeah. I always think about that when those bands said like... Yeah, they're pretty relaxed. Everyone's, all the reggae guys are just fucking like... Do they get girls? What are they like with the ladies?

I think they get pussy, dude. They seem kind of low-T. Some hot women. Hot women. Just the dudes have kind of a low-T energy to them, a lot of them. You know what I mean? It's like really hot girl... The scene in the reggae scene is like really hot girls and then like dudes with dicky shorts.

Yeah, they love their dicky shorts. They all kind of dress like beasts. They all dress like beasts a little bit. Because it's SoCal. Yeah, I'm not judging. They just do. They love their dicky shorts. And all dress like Beats a little bit. Because it's SoCal. Yeah, I'm not judging. They just do. They love the Dickies shorts. And like, remember the Arnett sunglasses? I like Dickies, though. That's a good company.

I do. Yeah. I mean, Fred Durst. High quality. That's my dude. He played Indie the other night. Dude, I saw a video. Oh, Julie posted a video.

God, I want to go see them so bad. I do, too. He's like a dad now. He's kind of like... I wish he would do this podcast. Fred, please. He will. We never even asked him, I will. We never even asked him, I guess. We never even asked him.

I think he just needs to know that we're coming with really humble respect for his career and his art. Yeah, we are. We're not here to joke about Limp Bizkit. I seriously think that... Take off the two reggae scene. We're not like shitting on your scene. No, I'm a little. You are. I'm not. I'm not shitting on Fred Durst ever. I would never utter

a bad word about him why because he rules he's one of the most important bands in the 90s he's I like

he's aging better than any guy you can say that about Miles with this fucking scene like Miles is slightly stupid built this whole fucking scene that's true they're all trying to be slightly stupid

all these younger bands agree this dude built that scene 100% agree they don't they're not included in this. He's just as important as Fred Durst. Probably.

I feel like Fred Durst is more on the Sublime tier. You think so? I think that's how many. No. I think they're on the... They had one of the biggest albums of the 90s. So did Slightly Stupid in the early 2000s.

Yeah. Sublime was a little bigger did Slightly Stupid in the early 2000s. Yeah. But Sublime was a little bigger than Slightly Stupid, right? I don't know. I guess I just don't know how big Slightly Stupid is. Slightly Stupid has drawn 15,000 people a night.

Yeah. But I mean, to be fair, Limp Bizkit played a 25,000 person arena in Indianapolis. They sold it out? Yeah. Headlined it?

Mm-hmm. Wow. They're back. Corey Feldman's opening for them. I saw that. That guy. I love that guy. Let's get Corey on the show. 100%.

I mean, I love that guy. He's like spoken out against Hollywood a bunch. Yeah. Surprised they haven't killed him yet. All right, guys, we're done. Do you think like the Illumina, I will just say, all right, you guys are done. Yeah.

And then just kill us. We're going to accidentally stumble on a conspiracy theory and we're joking around. Accidentally. All of a sudden, there's a red dot on my forehead. Yeah.

Accidentally, a speaker falls on me from a gig. Because of something I said. Yeah. No, but Corey Feldman. Your dumb ass said. Corey Feldman was like

saying how Hollywood was like, you know, doing what they do to kids because he was a child star. Oh, yeah. And like no one paid attention to him and Corey Haim. Wow.

Well, shout out to Corey Feldman for fucking speaking the truth. Fuck he's in a great fucking Hollywood. Fuck he's in a bunch of good bands. Ernie movies. Goonies. Let's talk about Sunshine. Let's talk about Slightly Stupid.

Stand by me. Let's talk about White Beaches. That sounded racist. Let's talk about sunshine. Let's talk about slightly stupid. Let's talk about white beaches. That sounded racist. Let's talk about... Black beaches? There is black sand. Let's talk about just waves. Waves of what?

Waves of love and happiness. When's the last time you surfed? I surfed last summer. I went surfing and watched Danny as a guy or do it the whole time

and just sat there and watched it was nice he's got a good surfers body wasn't that during the shit show or film in the show

during COVID he's like we gotta stop by the beach isn't it crazy we've been friends five years yeah it's not that long it's three years

I think COVID was four years ago yeah but we didn't start hanging out right at the beginning covid remember it was like another year into it damn 21 oh has your life changed with me in it yep

just for the best right buddy everything just keeps getting better the more i'm around andy fresco guys my venmo is at nicholas gerlach yeah yeah let's do a test let's see how many people really love Nick. Go to Venmo. Venmo me $10 if you like me.

Nicholas Gerlach. Venmo him $10. And we're going to see how many people. I'll give you 10%. Give me 10%? Yeah. I'm not. No, no.

This is for you. Stream my album. Buy my album. Buy Venmo me $10. If you Venmo him $10. You can stream it on Spotify. I will give you something from the Frasco merch area.

That'd be hilarious. You just add a t-shirt. So what if like 30,000 people do it? That'd be amazing. That'd be awesome. What if you made the $300k off? I'd just quit. I'd retire with $300,000 for some reason.

That's the number that makes you want to quit? In my 40s. All right, guys. Enjoy Slightly Stupid. That was a good opening, actually. I thought it was good. We'll probably have to cut a little bit

because that was 40 minutes. Hell yeah. Better have too much than too little. Yep. Especially Miles. Hey, Chris,

play some Slightly Stupid. Play the new song. This new song is fucking sick. The. Especially Miles. Hey, Chris, play some Slightly Stupid. Play the new song. This new song is fucking sick. The video is awesome. I mean, I love this band. This is very nice. He is. And he got us to open for them at Red Rocks. Oh, I forgot about that. Well, that wasn't last year, was it? And he said he's going to put us on Closer for the Sun. Was that

last year or the year before? Last year. Yeah. Okay. You might have seen me open for slightly stupid. I love these guys. They've helped my best friends, little strangers career so much that, you know, I got to,

I got to thank them. They can afford two melodicas now. Now they can afford two melodicas. I got to figure out what I'm going to say for the stranger. I'll have to help you think of some stuff. I'll be like, this, this band is wholeheartedly making the melodica cool again.

Yeah. Who'd ever thought you could hear melodicaheartedly making the melodica cool again. Yeah. Who'd ever thought you could hear melodica on a rap band? They're playing in Logic. Alright, guys. Enjoy Miles from Slightly Stupid and we'll catch you next week with G-Love. A lot of reggae. Glove. Is he a reggae?

He's kind of in that reggae hip-hop world. And then Nick and Andy after that like if G-Love had a father he'd be a little stranger I mean

by the way around by the way around if G-Love had a kid a musical kid he'd be a little stranger that's true I can see that

G-Love was a cool interview too he was a nice guy yeah he was the best he was at his cool house in Massachusetts that's what I'm saying all these reggae guys they're just laid back

they go to the water that's what I'm saying. All these reggae guys are just laid back. They go to the water. That's what I'm saying. We need to be Republicans. We're not reggae guys, though. We need to be Republicans. They're too religious for me. The tax stuff. All right, guys.

Enjoy Miles. Later. And so I'm spending a lifetime searching for The one that you're needing, the one that you love And I'm waiting For days that'll last forever Miles from Slightly Stupid In the fucking building This is so exciting dude I've always wanted to have a real conversation with you man

I'm really looking forward to this Because as I'm 15 years in a band 15 years of kind of just doing I'm like on that grind with you We love what we do. How do you keep it sustainable? That's like my main question.

How many years now are you guys? This is our 30th year. Holy, let's fucking go, baby. Five more years, they can run for president. Yeah. Stupid 2028. Try to do better in the debate. Yeah.

Tell me about that a little more. Like, how do you keep everyone happy? I was like, how do you, as a little more like how do you keep everyone happy mario's like how as a band leader how do you keep people happy in your band i mean honestly i i feel like we're all here first of all because we love music and when you understand that like even when you know everyone's gonna have their own everyone has families at home they have everyone has their problems. Everyone has their own highs and lows. And that's just how it is. And I feel like when we all understand once we hit that stage, none of that matters for that time we're out there.

You know what I mean? Like we're out there to make music. And for us, I feel like our schedule now, it makes it very compatible with home life. You know what I mean? Instead of being gone seven months a year, I'm home, you know, seven months a year, maybe even a little bit more than that. You know, that's kind of most people that work regular jobs won't get to see their kids

as much as we would with that much time off. You know what I mean? And to me, like, I feel like all of us appreciate it now, you know, once you've had those families and we we've given, you know, pretty much more than half our lives to the road and to making music. And I think everybody understands that as far as like us wanting to raise our kids and have that life as well, because honestly that's to me, that's what life's about when you can, you know, raise your own family and, and bring them into the world and teach them,

you know, the stuff that affected you and made you can, you know, raise your own family and, and bring them into the world and teach them, you know, the stuff that affected you and made you grow just like your parents did to you and your parents and grandparents before that. So I feel like it's, uh, you know, part of the way of life and, and I try to embrace it. Is, uh, now that your home's more than ever, is your family sick of you? Can you go back to Cleveland and rehearse? I think you need to spend another week in Cleveland. Are you sure that monitor guy doesn't need one more rehearsal? That's up for debate. Is having kids like change your songwriting process at all or lyrically or

just your approach? Yeah. I think just time does that. Like your thought process is different in your 20s in your 30s in your 40s um you know i have three daughters you know so my thought process is different um you know for sure i used to sing some pretty vulgar shit um even within the mellow mellow tones of what what we do do. And, and, um, I definitely, my thought process towards that is, is, um, is different now, you know, I'll still play those songs live.

Cause it doesn't, it doesn't bother me, but I don't think that, you know, I don't think like that. And, uh, I think you also reflect on the journey you've taken, you know, I'm 47 years old and I've seen a lot of shit. It comes out in the writing and the storytelling and I think people can see that as far as just the growth

of what you do as a human in general. You know what I mean? And everyone's different. But lyrically, I think it'd be impossible to stay the same thought process of the teenage you know 20 year old kid

that's kind of what Taylor Swift's doing yeah a little bit what about this new single got me on the run the record was kind of dark it was it was kind of depressing it was like, damn. It's like Sad Girl.

I'm so happy. It's like it's San Diego, man. Yeah. Have you ever been in a sad boy era, but you still have to make happy, optimistic reggae music? Just a goth guy in Ocean Beach. I've never been in a sad boy era.

No. I'm too successful and good looking for that. I think about that. I write optimistic, happy music, and I wonder if there's going to be a point in my life where I'm kind of sad, and I have to fake it. As songwriters, I don't feel like that's not us to fake

it, right, Miles? Or do you know how to write a song for your scene? I mean, in all honesty if if people that know me and if you do know me i'm a happy person like yeah i walk around with a smile on my face i don't you know to me i believe that it just takes you a little further in life if you are like that you know i mean it's it's too i'm not someone that dwells on shit like if it happened yesterday, I can't get back yesterday. Let's move on to today. Um, what can we do to basically kick today's ass? Um, you know,

that's just how I've kind of approached everything. I'm, I've never really looked back on. I mean, I feel like any mistakes you make you, that's how you learn. Just like anything you, you got to fail to succeed. And, and just like playing clubs when there's nobody in there except for the bartenders and the and the security guards right shit if you just gave up right then we wouldn't be where we are right now and i feel like that that applies to everything in life um you know people in general in the world would just kind of focus on what we could do today as opposed to

any past bitterness, any bullshit. Like, let's get through it and fucking kick today's ass. You know what I mean? That's why you're the fucking goat, Miles. That's why you're the fucking goat, dude. The optimism is unreal, unmatched with the fucking scene, dude. I just wonder if everybody who grew up in San Diego

is just so relaxed and chilled. Everyone is so nice and happy out there. Is it just because it's 79 and sunny every day? Yeah, what's the deal over there? What's going on? Are they putting Xanax in the water? What's going on in San Diego that's making y'all just fucking be so happy and optimistic? I mean, honestly, I feel like when you grow up in the

beach culture, I feel like there's something to be said about that. You know what I mean? It kind of creates a... You're connected to the earth a little bit when you grew up in the water. Yeah. You know what I mean?

It's a fun little... I feel like it's chill. Everybody in the town listens to reggae. Everyone smokes weed. It's kind of just that kind of cool town. And we grew up there since our whole lives. So it's pretty cool to be part of it. No, it's amazing.

That's what I always say. You never meet anyone from San Diego because they don't leave. You're never in Denver and like, I'm from San Diego. No, I'm moving to San Diego. My sisters live in Coronado and I have a feeling they're going to just live there forever. It's just so peaceful. Everyone is super friendly.

Super nice. Coronado is like its own city too on its own. They have their own police force it takes forever to get to even though it's right there i know it's fucked it's crazy interesting it's it's really there's some beaches there that are off the charts the white sand beaches you wouldn't even think you're in san diego yeah um it's really really cool before we talk about what's going on with right now because I'm really fascinated with

you going to Nashville and writing songs. And I've been hearing all about this with Yellow Wolf and recording at Sonic Rage and Chanel Pass. So I want to hear all about that because this is exciting. I like this branding or just keep on learning and learning songwriting. I've been going to Nashville and I felt like I'm becoming such a better songwriter as I'm coming into Nashville. But for my fans, the story of how Bradley Knowles found you is so fascinating. And just for my fans who don't, who are new to slightly stupid and in the scene,

talk about this because this is insane, dude. This is crazy. Yeah. I mean, when we were, uh, I think I was was i had to have been 16 um and sublime was playing at drink this little like shithole bar called dream street that was

kind of a staple in ocean beach um and my mom's friend made me a fake ID to go to the bar. And it was like mom's friend. I fucking love it. God, I'm moving to San Diego. It was, it was like legit. It was like a legit California license and they couldn't even say shit. It was pretty dope.

Wow. And I was there with like Kyle's dad, my mom, um, all like the local surfing crew. There was probably 40, 50 people there. and it was pretty crazy I'm 16 what year was that

it had to have been like 93 it had to have been like 93 and they played and we were all talking outside and somehow my mom brought up that I have all this music equipment at the house and him and him and

Miguel were like oh we're just gonna swing by tomorrow since we're down here and they came in and and um had like this four track set up a bunch of acoustic guitars and Brad just sat down and started playing and me and Kyle were there with my mom um this other dude named Gary who was a phenomenal musician and we were just chilling jamming and you know me and kyle are going like holy shit you know this is who we listen to when your dad's on surf trips you know what i mean what's it like what was it like in that room like you're like this is surreal this is the real deal yeah i mean it was just something you're like fuck dude this was kind of somebody we looked up to, you know, being young kids and they were this new band didn't really have a license so i was driving him around um going to you know all these 21 and up shows as a 16 year old kind of just

loading in the gear and i had a fake id now so it was just kind of like you know i was going up to long beach with them and everything and and he just kind of took you know took me under his wing like you know his little brother basically you know doing those things and and uh he would come to some of our rehearsals with me and kyle and our original drummer adam and and it was just cool you know you're like these kids going fuck this is insane man oh my god you know it it was my mom would just you know on the weekends i would just go up to long beach and and go to all the club shows and just you know hang out with those guys, stay up there until the weekend was over and

party till the middle of the morning with all these mid-20 year old people. Were you getting laid? Were you getting laid at 16? I probably did. Let's fucking go. Let's go, Miles.

He's just basically having the same experience we all had at 16 yeah hanging out with our heroes touring with them living on the living on the living on the beach yeah we had the same childhood because uh once once uh they came to a few rehearsals and stuff they were just like dude let's just go make a record up at our our studios this one skunk records was kind of this you know, still is all underground, but it was just, you know, building underground success,

um, through sublime. And, and, um, so we went up there and recorded and for us, it was just the dream come true. And then when we got up there,

it was like this total punk rock scene of a studio, you know, graffiti everywhere, dirty, everybody partied there at night. Like all these dudes that just looked crazy to us and uh it was just rad it was a cool experience um is that where you met john phillips or was that later in life yeah no we met john um probably about within the year of

that because he was their manager um and they and they were, you know, that's, uh, when they were signing to like MCA and all, all that kind of stuff back then. Um, and that's, uh, when I met John,

he's like, Oh, I got this brother that's going to be coming up doing this stuff. And Matt, you know, I met Matt and they've been our managers since we were teenagers. Oh my God. It's pretty cool.

So you're going through it when, you're going through it when you're going through it when uh you know sublime you know the tragic ending of that how was that for your head yeah i'm i mean it was crazy just because we knew him you know what i mean and and it was something that you know first of all we were blessed for the you know we were hanging out for you know almost three years probably right around there we kind of were chilling at that point. And, you know,

you just kind of embraced all the stuff that him and Miguel used to tell us. Um, just cause we were still in shock when we heard it, it was almost like, nah, that can't be right. Like something's wrong here. Like that's bullshit.

Right. Because that was kind of like, you know, it just wasn't, it wasn't in the mindset. Like that's what was really happening. The crazy part is he really revolutionized music just like grunge took away hair metal.

Yeah, exactly. Hair metal took away rock and roll, the old 70s rock. It was just crazy. The power of the story and the style that Sublime brought to the table really just, like I said, it revolutionized it, but it created this movement. You know what I mean? And we were kind of the first baby band of that era. Yeah. You know what I mean?

We totally were. 10,000 bands. This is when we were still paper flyering towns and shit this was pre you know pre internet music success of those kind of things and it was just crazy for us to you know even grasp that

back then where you're like god damn dude like our hero is gone you know what I mean and it just was just at the tip of the iceberg because that record was so dope and you think about what was next you, what was going to be coming out of the next after a record like that, you know, the self-titled. And, you know, obviously what's cool now is you see Jacob in the role of. That's the most wildest shit, dude. That's what's wild.

Like, do you big bro him? Like, you've watch him grow up? What is that? You're his uncle or something? He calls me Uncle Miles That's cool It's cool because I'll tip my hat to Sublime

To Rome That headed Sublime at Rome For the last decade plus Because he did carry a torch that people needed. You know what I mean? People wanted to hear that music, but there also is something absolutely amazing about Jacob, uh,

stepping into the role, um, just sing some of his father's songs. Cause he's already, he's already a good artist anyway. And his voice, when you close your eyes, there's elements where you're like,

Holy shit, dude, you sound just like your dad. Like, it's crazy. Dude. And it's really cool to have, you know, Bud back on the drums, you know, Eric's playing, you know, just have those guys together making music again. And, you know, with Jacob at the helm, I feel like sky's the limit for those guys right now. You know what I mean?

Bursting back into the scene. It's really cool. It's like taking full circle and, and it's cool. You know, I, I sent him a picture the other day of, of when he was a little kid and he was like,

I'm just going like, I can't believe you're 28 years old right now. Yeah. Did you give him any advice for any of those big shows? Like he just like kind of walked into fucking Coachella. Did you give him any advice for those shows? Well, honestly, if you know him, he's ready for those moments. I always thought he was kind of a very theatrical singer anyway.

You know what I mean? He was kind of made for those kind of things. I feel like he loves that energy. I just told him, honestly, to enjoy it. Embrace it. He's got a great behind him and and that's the biggest thing when when you go into that with that mindset i feel like there's no pressure to succeed with it you know and and you know the biggest thing like i used

to tell him when he was first learning to sing that he should sing his dad's songs just because his dad had such an amazing voice that all of us have looked up to and loved forever you know what i mean and and it's and his dad's music is it literally it sounds just as relevant today as it did when it came out right it doesn't sound like it's dated at all when you turn on the radio and you and you hear you're like holy shit if you listen with the rest of the stuff that's out there, it sounds like it could be in this era still. It did age very well. I mean, it's pretty cool.

I hate to break it to you, but your songwriting is the same way, bro. You're a great songwriter. Unfortunately. You are really a, unfortunately you're a great timeless songwriter. I don't want to hurt your feelings or anything, but your songwriting spans generations.

No, it really is, man. Man, I wish you were my mentor. Thanks, man. I had LA mentors who were like, you better fucking not fail, you piece of shit. Or do, because I want your spot. Yeah, yeah, fail so I can have your spot. I was like, just have fun, man.

Just have a good time with it. What the fuck, man? I got to move to San Diego. Well, I mean, I think for success, you always have to have that positive mindset, but not I got to move to San Diego. I think for success, you always have to have that positive mindset but not be scared to fail. That's the biggest thing. Because if you're scared

to fail, you're never going to take that real step. When you take that real step, it's like, holy shit. You realize, fuck, that clear floor is not clear. i could walk over it you know what i mean like it's it's kind of cool you know it's something that to me if you if you push yourself you can know your limits you know what i mean and sometimes you have to

push yourself over the limit where you're outside of your comfort zone to get where you really need to be um and i mean we're all guilty of that i'm not saying i do that shit in every aspect of every moment of my life but that's the goal um to kind of just be a good human and successful person well you know that talk about that fearless this is a great transition to move to the future now right here the present moment like are you fearful of writing new stuff and, but also not like changing it up too much that your fan base gets pissed? Like, tell me about fearless with writing new music. Like you're out here in Nashville learning the chops and stuff.

Do you think about that or just, do you just write? I mean, in all honesty, I like to work with different people when you're, when you've kind of had it. First of all, if you listen to every slightly stupid record, every record is completely different. That's true. But there's still elements of slightly stupid in it. You know, everything is it. Every record is completely different in style.

And for us, we've always prided ourselves on all the styles of music that we play. So there's always something for everybody at a stupid show. It doesn't matter who you are. And there's something for the punk rock fan, the reggae fan, the blues fan, the, you know, the acoustic fan, um, the rock fan. So it's, it's cool. And for me, we're all fans of so many styles of music. I feel like we're still going to have the framework of slightly stupid, even if we go outside the box a little bit. You know what I mean? And that doesn't scare me because I've been in this band three decades making music with my friends. And, you know, we honestly look forward. We just got on the road again.

You're just kind of like, this is incredible. We're back. Yeah, it's awesome. It's like Mortimer, we're back. It's like Captain Planet Like all the boys I want a slightly stupid country album Slightly stupid country album next

That's what we're getting in Nashville Yeah let's go you're in Nashville you're going to make a folk record I got to work with Yellow Wolf out there And his crew Honestly dude He's fucking awesome So sick

The dude can sing like a motherfucker Oh really Honestly, dude, he's fucking awesome. So sick. The dude can sing like a motherfucker. Oh, really? People just hear his hip-hop shit. Dude, that guy can sing, man. I was blown away. And he just has a lot of love, man, towards music. And he's someone that is, like I was saying, just fearless.

He will fucking jump both feet in and not give a fuck. That's the best. And it's really cool. It's really cool to see that. And he's got a great crew out there. And, yeah, man, it was a special experience. We got through about three song ideas. One of them is pretty much, and we could roll with it now and it's just a demo that's how like that's the hook idea and everything is is cool so it was a great experience i like after you know

kind of just doing the stuff that we've done on our own forever i always like to work with different musicians um just to grow myself right as a musician it's's cool to see things from a different perspective than just my usual guys that we always make music together. It's cool to see an outside perspective looking in and having different thoughts. What was cool is we were

playing this song and we had also recorded it at Sonic Ranch, which is another amazing studio. Oh, we're going to talk about that. I've been dreaming about that fucking studio. No internet, though. No internet.

That's the best. No, yeah, it is crazy. But we were recording this song, and someone, one of his friends, just walked in and literally locked right into the song and sang this line to take the song out. And real quick, And everyone was, he's like, dude, this just got me. Like, here's what I think. And the line was fucking awesome. You're just like, Whoa, that's kind of a sick little chant out. Yeah.

It was really cool. And that's what was kind of rad. Just, you know, going into that element where he just has a bunch of homies that literally stopped by to listen for a second and they you know they stay and fucking have drinks with you and you know you're smoking weed and and uh and the ideas just come out it's really cool so like yeah so the idea so when you were going to nashville and like at first where you're like skeptical like oh this might not work or did you always have a optimistic mind of like do you get nervous when change is coming or do you

love going with the flow? It kind of makes you a bigger person. I mean, I was a little I went with the flow, but I was a little nervous for sure. What were you nervous about? Just because we were going to start from scratch. So starting

a song where we just sit down and vibe on each other and write something. It's nerve-wracking. So when you go into those and not knowing anyone, honestly, I was just like, I felt like it's kind of an adrenaline though too, which is cool.

Like nerves, it kind of spikes your body. As soon as I got there he was so just cool and fucking vibes were amazing that it was just easy to hold the acoustic and strum a couple chord progressions and melody ideas and it and uh he just made it easy yeah and his whole crew did and uh it was it was rad dude we had such a good time um a couple really cool like um we had a couple ideas and then he would just throw even just enhance the idea that we do or else have his own and it was just it was just something cool it's a cool writing process um especially

when like you're thinking of the idea what should we talk about in a song and you just let's just say you have a theme and then you start writing everything that has to do with that theme on a piece of paper yeah you know what i mean and and thinking about okay let's create a story around this idea um that makes sense. And, you know, what can we come up with line by line and melody and chorus idea, pre, you know,

pre-chorus, all those kinds of things. So it was cool, man. The process was rad. Isn't it amazing the, the difference between songwriting in Los Angeles versus songwriting in Nashville,

where like, or in California, it's like, Oh, when we're inspired, we'll see how we feel. But in Nashville, it's like, we we're inspired, we'll see how we feel. In Nashville, it's like, we're on the clock. We have two hours to write a fucking song.

Let's fucking do it. Let's get this party going. It's like an assembly line. It's like an assembly line. Was that like that for your experience too? Because that was like it was mine. I mean, everyone in there knew that was kind of the game plan. You're going in there. We have two days and there. We have these,

we have two days and we want to have three, four ideas when we leave this motherfucker. And it was honestly, it was work time. The minute we got there, I think we just had like a couple of drinks and a couple of bees and just started right off. And I fucking love miles. I'm moving to San Diego miles.

You're the best dude. I just fucking love you, dude. You're just a good dude. Yeah, I know. You work hard and play hard. That's important to me. And I think that's the California mind state, right? I mean, to me, to enjoy life, you have to play hard if you're going to

work hard. You can't just work hard and then not play. That sounds horrible. And when you're going in, dude, I mean, why are we doing this if we can't just yeah work hard and then not play right you know it that's horrible and when you're going in it's dude i mean it's why are we doing this if we can't play yeah we just be accountants or something it's like yeah god i that's just way above my pay grade dude i'm good on just making music with my homies oh yeah seeing the lands because i don't know how I tip my hat to people that have survived like those cubicle kind of mindset jobs.

It always makes me think of office space. You saw that movie, but it's one of the greatest movies ever. PC load letter. What the fuck is PC load letter? It's true. I mean, to me it's,

it's, it's just like anything, man. When you push yourself to a certain way, it's true I mean to me it's just like anything man when you push yourself to a certain way it's like that's kind of the expectation and for us we like to party hard and play our show hard and let's fucking go that's what it's about

are you still excited to make new records or are they intimidating I think the process just takes longer now because everyone has kids and trying to spend time at home. To me, for my own

personal thing, when I'm home, the creative process kind of goes out the door because you're doing whatever your kids, whatever sports they're in, whatever clubs they're in. You're kind of bouncing around. And then if you are playing music at the house house they come in every three seconds to ask you 75 different things you know i mean and as much as you know you love them everything's amazing but in those moments you're just like dude just daddy's gotta yeah he needs to leave this little

place right now so he can you into the creative process. Our studio's closed, so I just leave everything in the studio. When it's time, I'm just like, hey, I gotta go. That's the benefit of a cubicle. That's about it. The kids don't show up at the cubicle and ask you a bunch of questions about lunch. That's why I'm so curious about the El Paso

situation, because you guys are a different band. You're family men. You're in there fucking isolated. What was that like, dude? Honestly, it's so dope out there. We went in there and wrote a bunch of extra songs. It was killer.

You got extra time. You live out there and you get three meals a day and they have this team of cooks that is just amazing. Holy shit. And it's rad. And they're on this like 3000 acre pecan ranch.

Wow. And it's pretty special, man. You're out there. It's quiet. You're just in this place in the middle of nowhere. You can go on a nice little run and they have this killer gym like a couple miles down the road all set up and we would kind of start the day like that we'd all run together go work out um eat after the workout have breakfast then you sit down you start to jam a little bit

and before you know it you're you're you know recording or or mixing or whatever it's just something it was such a great experience man i can't i can't say uh say it enough how rad that place is just as a musician you you literally capture like the energy of the place and like i said we we went in there to record some songs and we wrote like three more songs just because of how killer the studio was. So, you know what I mean? It's I love that. Like, because when you're in your own studio, you don't really have a timeline. You kind of just do what you want forever.

And that's why it takes years. And when you go to a blessing and a curse. Yeah. Totally. But that's true because you can sit there and nitpick at everything forever and when you're at a place like that you have i mean you can go all night long if you want but you still only have so many days that are on the on the block right and and uh i feel like you kind of try to leave there with as close to a finished product as you can because you don't want to do all that other

stuff at your studio you want to use the essence of sonic ranch you know what i mean and and it really does any band that has a chance to go there i would recommend it a thousand out of a thousand times it's it really is something cool um the equipment's great and the room sounds amazing there's studios they have they have a bunch of studios all over the place. We just stuck to one. Oh. And it's absolutely incredible. Do you bring your own?

Multiple studios on site. Do you bring your own engineer or do they have? They have an engineer, but I always bring our own engineer. Yeah, your guy. Yeah. Yeah. He does our live sound too. Oh, cool.

And he's been with us, it's got to be more than 15 years now. Wow. So he knows you guys. Yeah, we can show up on any PA and he's going to make it sound good. Yeah. You know what I mean?

And when I'm in the studio, he's already making the change as I'm asking for it. Yeah, he already knows your brain. Oh yeah, I'm already doing that. You know what I mean? A new guy is like... Yeah. When I'm recording,

literally, he knows exactly. I'll be saying something and it's telepathic. It goes right to his hands onto the keyboard. There is something to be said for a sound guy that's on your payroll and not the venue's payroll, too. They listen to you more. Especially in a studio setting.

Oh, for sure. They know how you sleep, how you breathe. And they're more beholden to you because you're the one that's hiring them and stuff. They're not going to put their own ideas in there. Do you bring the whole band, like the horns and everything to her? Do they overdub later? No, no. We brought everybody. Because you can live there. There you bring the whole band, like the horns and everything to, or do they overdub later? No, no, we brought everybody

because you can live there. There's a bunch of bedrooms. Yeah, it's a ranch, so there's room for everybody. We bring the whole crew, and I think when you're going to a place like that, you want everyone there just for part of the writing process.

Even though me and Kyle may have our ideas for a song, it's still cool to have the band guys are all pro cats, so they hear some stuff too, and it's nice to have their opinion and be involved in that process. What about our man,

the Diesel, Carl D, baby? Is he still rocking with you guys? That guy's a legend. He does when he can. He's bitching the Rolling Stones right now, Andy. He's in this little band called the Rolling Stones. They're coming out. I saw them on TikTok.

He's honestly amazing, dude. He's one of the best sax players on the planet. And he is from San Diego as well. And what was funny is we had never crossed paths forever in our music career and before he joined the stones he ended up touring with us for like six years i remember that summer tours and he was literally on tour with us and he's like oh shit the rolling stones you know they offered me a job. You know, so you're just kind of like, oh, well, fuck you, bro. You're with us.

No, dude, sorry. You said you're going to be in our band. Yeah. No, honestly, we're just like. That's so funny, Miles. So I got another offer. You can only be a static horn, dude. Honestly, you're like one of the most legendary

rock and roll bands of all time. What a job offer. Miles, you set up a fucking sick horn section, dude. You got a homie from Dave Matthews, too. Trumpet player, right? He's in your band? Holy shit.

He only plays with us when he's not with Dave. But god damn. He's like the best trombone player. And we have De La Cruz. Oh my god. He's a tenor player, right? And Andy does like trombone and flute. And fills in with some trumpet when Rashawn's not around.

But yeah, Rashawn hits some crazy-ass notes. He's the go of that. Shout out to bands that are still paying horn players. Yeah, let's go. I'm clapping to you, Miles. Let's fucking go. Horns are important, dude. You're keeping people like me and paying our rent.

I mean, honestly, I love in the live show, I love horns. It just brings out an energy in the set, especially when you break down some of the songs. We let those guys really just fucking blow and they go to town where you

get a nice little opening for a solo. And when you have three, it's just crazy, bro. Three's the perfect number. Something that elevates. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Three. Sometimes four. We've done four where it gets a little crazy. You're a little too sick with four, though. There's too many cooks in the kitchen sometimes. But it's honestly a killer, man. We've been blessed with just having some of the greatest musicians sit in with us. And it's something special,

man. It's, you know, the power of music, you know, it brings so many, even musicians together, not only people,

but it just, you know, the musicians that are making the music. It's rad when you, when you get to jam together and do shit like that. You ever just like, I'm not sure. Sorry,

go ahead. No, go keep, keep your thought going. I was just saying, I'm not sure. I'm not sure what shows uh rashaun is on for the summer um he's definitely going to do a couple and then uh

possibly down at closer to the sun it's always nice to do stuff special down there and and uh man like i said i just love it and and especially when we're down at closer we do uh three different sets about 75 songs holy shit it's like a wedding gig killer man you are a psychopath miles you are an absolute demon dude i know so many songs bro you're such a songwriter he hides it by being this chill yeah dude demon status on the songwriting it makes it easy when like you have two guys that write for the band, you know, Kyle's written some like absolutely ridiculous songs.

And, uh, it's fun when you go to a place like closer where you can really just open up your repertoire, really your diehard fans that are down there. And, you know, when you have that kind of set list,

so too, you're bringing in other elements, you know, you're letting guys really kind of loosen up in, in zones of songs to kind of give them a too you're bringing in other elements you know you're letting guys really kind of loosen up in in zones of songs to kind of give them a little more freedom yeah and uh it's just killer man so so much fun um that's like i said we're gonna get you down there dude let's do it talk to the guys about getting you there next year yeah it'd be awesome i feel like your energy on some of those stages would just be pretty mental. Dude, I'm in, man.

I just think about you. You're rocking out. Had a great set. You look back and fucking Carl Denson, Rashawn. I know. Just your band. Are you dreaming? It's pinched me sometimes.

Do you feel that way? Because, dude, you have a power band. It's like the University of Alabama football team. power band it's like the University of Alabama football team you're like the University of Alabama football team for reggae music I mean honestly it's pretty insane knowing like no matter what those guys are

holding it down you know what I mean sick they're never going to fuck up when you even what's funny is you know the drill like sometimes you may think you have the worst show ever and then the fans be like that's the greatest show i've ever seen i've been to 20 shows and you're just like okay like you know i guess you know sometimes your own mindset you know fucks it up for yourself you know yeah and and uh because i've definitely

walked off going god damn and then someone says that and you're like oh well fuck it let's have a drink you're like wow I guess I wasn't as bad as I thought I was merch table? but then I keep going sorry there's those nights where you probably drink

a little too much so you got semi marble mouth through the songs and so those are the kind of nights you probably drink a little too much. You got semi-marble mouth through the songs. Those are the kind of things. Even if part of the band doesn't drink at all, during showtime, they'll just be like, no. Got a little slurry there.

You have a secret weapon. You just say, ladies and gentlemen, Charlie Tuna. Then all of a sudden, Charlie just... Oh, he tours with him too? This is the fantasy football dream team. You're up to dream team now. You're a good band leader, Myles.

You know how to hire, bro. You know how to hire. I mean, God, think about Charlie Tuna, dude. Honestly, to me, I always call him the modern-day Morgan freeman like you know how morgan freeman's voice is so soothing yeah but morgan's like 89 charlie has you know he's still young and yeah he's got that same demeanor like when he speaks you're kind of just like

his speaking voice is just like his rapping voice then dude it is that's crazy it pretty is yeah man i bet the ladies his voice is pretty deep dude it's. That's crazy. It pretty is. Oh, yeah. Man, I bet the ladies love him. Yeah, his voice is pretty deep, dude. It's so deep. And then he's an amazing painter, too. What? He's an unbelievable painter. I can hear him in the hallway of the bus right now. I love it. Well,

you know, Miles, I don't want to... I could talk to you for fucking ever, bro, but I know you got to get going. You got to practice. Dirty heads, slightly stupid. You got a new single out too, which is exciting. I really love the new single. And that girl you have in there is fucking beautiful, dude. Oh my God. That whole music video is really well done. Thanks, man. Yeah. I was stoked on how it all came together and I was stoked to have Scott and Kaleo on it. And really, it just came together and, and, uh, you know, I was stoked to have Scott and Kaleo on it.

Yeah. And really it just, it just came together. Nice. The video turned out pretty smashing. Um, and I'm stoked that she was able to do it. Uh,

and that worked out good, man. Honestly, I think we're, we either were about to release the video, I think. Yeah. Phillips told me that's upper,

that's, that's upper management's call. Yeah. We just come out here. The boardroom. Yeah. Phillips. Yeah. Phillips told me. That's upper management's call. Yeah. We just come out here. The boardroom. Yeah. Phillips, yeah. Phillips gave me a glimpse.

Like, that's the most beautiful woman I've ever seen in my life. These guys know how to hire, man. She is gorgeous. Yeah, she's gorgeous. She just did the video. It's not like she works at the office. No, no, no. She's the marketing director.

Yeah. she works at the office no she's the marketing director yeah honestly we have a great team behind us up and down the lineup and that's what makes this whole thing go yeah i mean it's you know it's it's awesome to have a band that that uh you know that we can count on always but it's also the team that that that helps create the band and bring it to life. Um, it's so important. Um, and like I told you, it's like that family vibe and the people that, you know, you surround yourself with there are huge.

And, and, uh, it's nice to know that you can look to either side and know that you can count on everybody and, and everyone's going to give you their best. I mean, our crew guys,

when it's show day, they're working 16 to 18 hours a day. Um, and they love what they do. Right. I mean and it's uh you're they're they're your tour family like everyone has families at home but these are guys you see all over the country even when they leave your crew you see them with your friends band so it's just that you know you've known guys forever out here and it's something special and and uh it's something that you can if you're not really ever part of it you'll never really understand it you know even though like your family may have seen this you know show that show this crew guy if you're not

like part of that whole machine um you'd never really understand how awesome it is right um and you know just grateful for it. You know, fuck, we did our pre-production day yesterday, so we actually have the day off today. Nice. Kind of like let you ease into tour. Right. And we got a sold-out show here in Cleveland at Jacobs Pavilion.

Oh, hell yeah. And, yeah, it's going to be mental, dude. I can't wait. We're looking forward to it in all honesty. And Phillip said, this is like the first led tour with like the, the screens and like the, you guys are going all out on production this year. Yeah. I mean, I, what we did was we used to always keep our, uh,

you know, drummer, he's percussion horns on like six inch risers. So they really weren't up with everyone was kind of more like that living room vibe yeah and this year we put them on bigger risers with led walls wrapping the risers so so with the big screen behind us dude we were doing sound check yesterday and i and i found myself like kind of just looking back watching the show because you don't really ever get to watch your own yeah and um it was just it was sick man it's kind of taking it to a new level and uh just excited man we have a lot of our laser crew and our video crew is people love lasers yeah it's super stony dude, dude. When you're playing these kind of venues, you have to do that stuff

to take it to the next level. Well, yeah, especially with everyone so overstimulated in life and everyone has eight-second attention spans. You have to go fucking lasers. You got to go LED and you got to have fireworks.

Sensory overload. You know what's cool is when you, when your lasers actually have a target, you can kind of blanket it over the whole crowd. And then they release the smoke and it looks like there's this like smoke floor that you can walk on. And it's just above the heads of all. It's Tony dude.

I want to go. It's cool, dude. And want to go. It's cool. And like, reggae doesn't really have a lot of that stuff. You're going to blow fucking people's minds. Yeah. You're going to be in Vegas soon. You're going to be in the sphere, dude. You're going to be in the sphere.

I wish you could just sign people up for this shit, like the ultimate band cam. You know what I mean? You take one bus and just fill with with people but it goes down to town they pay up they pay a monthly service or you know it's like they get fed three meals a day you pay your money for the trip you're there for fucking two weeks no it should be one meal a day if you really want to be in a band yeah let's not let's not get them too comfortable they want the real experience yeah get them hungry keep them hungry miles don't let don't

spoil them too much you get catering all right All right, buddy. I'll let you go. I know what you're doing. Loaders. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Crew camp. Well, I'll let you go, buddy. I know this is your day off. Thanks so much for sharing your time. Miles, you're the man. We love you, man. Big fan of you. No, no problem. I got one last question and then, um, yeah, let's kick it. I'm gonna get your number from John. That's cool. I'll shoot you a text. I'll text you on that little thing as well. Perfect. I'll text you.

And, um, yeah, let's be friends, bro. I really love, I admire your work ethic, uh,

cause I work very hard too. And sometimes it's nice to see other people working as hard as I am. And I don't feel alone on this fight, you know, you're not alone, bro. I'm getting lasers, though. I'm getting lasers, dude. If Miles has lasers, I'm getting lasers.

Fire Ernie get lasers. It'll change the whole game, dude. I'm telling you. Sometimes I'm just like, fuck the lights. We just need lasers, man. They're fucking awesome. I love it. Thanks, bro.

There's a song that you did. I don't know the name of it. Yeah, man. Thanks, bro. Looking forward to hanging, man. And there's a song that you did. I don't know the name of it. I watched it on your Instagram. You were playing with an older guitar player. And it felt like you were kind of talking about it was the relevance of today. Oh, yeah. The tones you were doing. I'm going to pull it back up.

Cool. I thought about it today when we were going to do this thing. Let's write some songs together, bro. It was a really cool song, though. Thanks, man. I dug it. Well, let's write some songs next year and help me write some songs for my record.

Probably that one with Pultz. I'm always down. Cool, buddy. Well, enjoy yourself. I got one last question. I'll let you go. I always end the podcast with this. When it's all said and done, what do you want to be remembered by? To me, just

that we put a smile on people's faces in all honesty. I feel like it's an experience when you come to our shows because we kind of handpick the lineups each year just to go out there knowing that it's going to be an experience for the fans. And I want people just to, you know,

if our music changed your life in a positive way, like that means more to me than anything. When people tell you that kind of stuff, you kind of pinch yourself in disbelief. But also knowing yourself that there's songs that you could put on that have changed your day, your week week your life um anything and and uh to remember to be remembered for something like that knowing

that like we're the ones bringing the smile um and changing people's attitudes that's more important to me than anything and uh you know we've worked our asses off to be where we are but it's you know the fan base that who gives you your life and uh you know just building it that organic grassroots way where you keep hitting those same towns where the 10 people turn to 20 the 20 turn to 40 and so on and and you know these people that watch you grow that now like told you earlier bring their families the kids you know their parents the in-laws um it's really it's cool you know it it touches you know people and you know in different generations and and when you do something like that i feel like

it's you're making a difference in the world as opposed to uh the chaos that you just turn on every day and and uh you know the the shit that you know they kind of want to focus on negative when there's so much beautiful shit in the world where if, if everyone kind of realized that, I think that, uh, it all starts there,

you know? And, and when music does that to me, I think, uh, you have a better chance. God damn it. You've got every,

I love you. Let's fucking go big dog. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for your gift. Thanks for your gift. Thanks for your art. Thanks for inspiring all the bands to just keep fighting the good fight because, you know, it's tough out there and we're here for you. So I love you, buddy.

Hell yeah. And you drink beer, right? Hell yeah. Do you have a beer company? I got to send you. Yeah. Well, Belching Beaver just made a new sweet honey blonde ale for Slightly Stupid. And it's like an all-day drinker.

It's not too sweet. I'm in. It's like a 4.8. That's all you had to say. 4.8 and it's not bitter? Nope. Dude, it's so good. You had me at all day.

You had me at all day you had me at all day I'm gonna have my guys send you some because you gotta try it it's honestly great it's by Belching Beavers they're out of Oceanside so it's pretty rad dude well go check out everything that is slightly stupid

my man's like the kiss of the reggae scene he's got beers. He's got lasers. He's got a song. Probably a THC product in there too, I bet. Yeah, probably. Yeah, man. You got to have a little bit of that.

I mean, I fucking love this dude. You don't have to have your own weed. Miles, I fucking love, honestly, bro. I fucking love you, bro. You're good at that. The only thing I like more than my own weed is other people's weed. Yeah, yeah. Well, get out there.

Go enjoy your day off. Go chill out. Go hang out on the bus. Go get some vibes with the fam. And I'll see you when I see you, buddy. Thanks, bro. Later. Have a good one.

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