Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 283: Round 2 w/ G Love

Episode Date: August 13, 2024

We open with a special love song devoted to one, Mr Floyd Kellogg. Then, jump on into the Man Stew with us as we get steamy with a touring band's worth of naked men. Plus: a very special motivational message from our beloved mustachioed merch maniac, Logan. (Does he not remind you of Donnie from The Wild Thornberrys?) And on the Interview Hour, we're welcoming back the one & only, Garrett Dutton, aka G Love! Andy tries to remember if he's written anything with G Love, only for Nick to rightfully ask: how do you not recall if you've ever written a song with G Love?? Remember kids: marijuana affects the memory.  And guess what... now you can see a cool dog by the name of Denzel should you choose to watch this episode *exclusively* on Volume.com... now in color!  Generally speaking, we are psyched to partner up with our buddies at Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. Call, leave a message, and tell us if you think one can get addicted to mushrooms: [phone]  Check out our new album!, L'Optimist on all platforms Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out our good friends that help us unwind and sleep easy while on the road and at home: dialedingummies.com Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Arno Bakker Shawn Eckels

And now, a message to Floyd Kellogg from his band. You are a little bitch to me You are a little bitch to me can't you see you've always been a little bitch and you're always

gonna be you And you're always gonna be. You are a little bitch to me. You little fucking bitch And we're live, Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast I'm Andy Frasco You might think, why do you hear crickets in the night? Why do you hear a frog in the distance? Why do you hear jacuzzi bubbles bubbling?

Yes, I have the whole band and we're in a jacuzzi. Let's fucking go. Hey, boys. It's man stew. Man stew. It's the end of the tour. We're in Outer Banks. We're having a ball.

We're about to play Kill Devil Hills in Wilmington. We're at our friend's house. They always take care of us. Brad and Rebecca. We love them. Brad and Rebecca, ladies and gentlemen. Shout out to Brad and Rebecca. We love you guys. I got the band in here. We are...

This is why I only have one leg in because too many dudes... Jacuzzi's already fucking wear me out. What is it? I was just going to call you a pussy. Get in the water, you fucking pussy. Jason, our sound guy's in here. Come here, Floyd.

Floyd. This has been my dream to be in a jacuzzi with you. That's the only problem. This is my dream to be in a jacuzzi with you this close. As much as you like to be intimate a jacuzzi with you this close. I was going to say. As much as you like to be intimate with Floyd. Floyd, how does it feel?

When we're on stage being intimate, it's a little different than being in a jacuzzi touching the skin of my bass player. How are you doing, Floyd? I've been better. I was hoping I could just go in the hot tub maybe by myself for a minute,

and now here we are, and there's a bunch of equipment around. You know there's no days off in the Frasco band. Even if you're trying to relax, we're out here in the jacuzzi. How's the tour been, guys? What are you doing? Jason, how are you feeling about this whole tour? It's been hot. Yeah, it's been hot.

It has been so hot, but it's been good so far. En fuego. We played in Nantucket, and we didn't embarrass Floyd. Floyd. We didn't embarrass Floyd. I was so close to embarrassing Floyd, and we didn't. I'm so glad that's over. Hold on.

Hold on. Did you think we're going to... We did really good. We did not embarrass you. Yeah. Yeah, miraculously, you did not. But we were recording and stuff. There was just a lot going on.

The family, and then going out to eat, and then playing a gig. And then 50 people want to get on the guest list. Okay, let's talk about this. This is a good thing to talk about. Floyd's guest list is the biggest guest list I've ever seen in my life. Andy Avila's on the building. I go. We're swimming in his.

Floyd has a really nice house, by the way. And we're swimming in his nice pool. And he brings out this paper. I said, what's this paper? There's about 40 people on it. Did Logan just farted if he heard that? Logan, what the fuck? We have 40 people on a guest list.

Nan Tuckett, you guys have money. Why do you want to be on the fucking guest list? I'm asking the same thing. Like, Nantucket, you all are billionaires. Like, we never had 32 people on a guest list. It's a courtesy thing. It's a thing you do. It's a formality for your friends.

All right? Well, Forsman does well in this business, so I'm going to trust him. No, no, no, no, no. This is, no. It's actually unheard of. We're lucky Brian Schwartz isn't our manager right now, because he would have fucking killed you. Oh, he would have had a freaking, yeah.

Guessless etiquette when it's a 300 cap. Floyd, can we do some math here? You're terrible at math. All right, what is it? Wait, wait, hold on. 50 people in in 300 cap? Yeah. That's not a quarter of the room.

It's like 14%. That's 20%. No, it's not. He always, Frasco rounds up always. Yeah, but you also, it's like an eight. It's like an almost eight. You almost have 100 people at an 1100 cap. I did have 100.

That's different. That's my hometown. But that's hometown. It's his hometown. You also have 100 people at an 1100 cap. I did. I did have 100 people. That's different. That's my hometown. But that's hometown. It's his hometown. Okay. I didn't know you had 32 friends, to be honest. You had 32 friends.

Was it Audrey's friends or whose friends were there? No, they're just our friends. A bunch of people bought tickets, too, that I know. That was not a fight. So I'm good. I'm good as far as we're concerned. Anyway, I'm just glad it's over. Thanks a lot. Let's give it up for Floyd. He was actually doing pretty good.

He had to produce the band for the lobster rolls. Yeah, we had lobster rolls, but he had to produce the band when we were just, you know, day, it was seven shows. We did like five shows in six days. The day after the chicken box trying to go to the studio, let me

tell you, it was a real difficult thing, but we did it. We finished the record. We got it done. The record is done, everyone. We got it done. Floyd, you did great. Besides the last 20 minutes, when you started telling Ernie to start doing some fucking Enya shit on the...

That's the shit. Floyd, he wasn't even playing notes. He was just kind of moaning like a Yoko track. Yeah, you gotta go there and explore the space. I don't know. That was fun. I thought it was. You don't use it. It doesn't matter.

Who cares? What's the problem? Why are you so judgy right now? You don't want to do this You just don't want to be here in the jacuzzi I wanted to get in the hot tub But I didn't want you with headphones With a microphone next to me That's all

That's all One request That was it Can't even have a day off He just wanted the stew He wanted the stew with no interview They wanted to have a stew without an interview Logan hasn't really talked on this podcast yet.

Ladies and gentlemen, please introduce our merch man. Hey, what's up? Logan Schooley. How you doing? Hey, guys. Hey, what's up? Lock on here, man. Hey, I'm happy to be here.

Logan, how's it going? You're in the front lines of our fans. How are the new fans? Crazy. They're drunk. They've been insanely drunk. I think the heat's gotten to their head and they're just slipping them PBRs back like crazy, but I'm here for it.

I'm chatting away. It's a great time. Thanks for being here. This week, all the island resort towns, the fans have been just fucking hammered. I mean, a little too much. I'm from Michigan. I know how to put back beer, so I'm like, hey, what's the liquor doing to y'all? It's crazy out here.

I love it. I just want to, you know, sometimes I yell at you, Logan, because, and you called me a bully the other day. Well, you pick on Floyd all the time. Did? He called me a bully because I pick on Floyd. That's awesome. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Do you understand what? I think you called him a bully because I pick on Floyd. That's awesome. No, no, no.

Do you understand what... I think you called him a bully to you. Do you understand what Floyd does to this band? Yes. I see it every day and I love it. He loves us so much and he pretends like he fucking hates us. He calls me cute every morning. You do?

He says, good morning, cutie. I thought I actually hated you. Andy, help defend me on this. Avila, what do you got here? Floyd secretly loves it. Also, he's the only person in this band that doesn't have a little bitch attitude, because we all do. And if we were talked to that way,

we would cry like little bitches. Floyd doesn't. And I could say that coming from me as well I would probably be like Fuck you man You're like Whatever The only time I have a little bitch attitude Is when I just want to get in the hot tub

And we got this going on Well that's good What about you Bo? How are you feeling about everything? Feeling good You back? We back, baby How's it?

This is first tour with a girlfriend How's it going? Oh, yeah Let's not get into that Come on, bro Why you got no? First tour with a girlfriend How's it going there?

We ain't going there Nah Wow Like Nick says, you're not Damn We ain't going there. Nah. Wow. Damn. Church and state has been initiated with this situation. Let's go back to Logan then.

She might come to Wilmington, so that's cool. No, we're going back to Logan. Logan, get the microphone. Logan, what's the... 2024, let's get Logan laid. Yeah, we're on the mission. It's 2024. We're going to try to get Logan laid. we're on the mission It's 2024 We're gonna get Try to get Logan laid

Logan Yeah Here's your pitch In front of All 10,000 All 10,000 Download podcast fans This is your pitch

The time is on the clock This is your pitch To get To find a girlfriend Let's go So my whole life I've just been looking For the one you know I've tried been looking for the one, you know.

I've tried a couple out. They haven't been it. And I know there's the one. And I keep, I keep, I keep my spirits high. I keep telling everybody I love them.

And one day, she'll come around. She'll find me like I found her. And it'll just be a great little beautiful Hallmark video, you know. It'll be great.

You didn't even, hold on. Fuck all that. Logan has a huge dick, ladies. That's what we're looking for. That's what you want. Just come on and suck on it. No, edit that. Edit that. Edit that. No, we'll edit that.

Oh, gosh. Yeah, sorry. Hold on. Logan, you were talking... You can't say he has a big dick on camera? You could say he has a big dick, but we don't want to brag. Bleep that, too, but you want it. Yeah. Are you looking for love?

Love, 100%. Are you looking for love? Because I've had great sex. Are you looking for love? I've had sex with a lot of people. Had the top sex of my life. Three sons, four sons. I've been about it.

So maybe one day I can just find love instead of fucking around. Looking for love in all the wrong places. Looking for love in all the wrong places. Looking for love in all the wrong places. Have you been, but you keep on, you give everyone your business card where you're kind of naked on a picture. Yeah. You haven't had anyone say, oh, that's a nice body. Put your phone number on that.

But that's the mystery. I'm a little bit of a Scorpio. There's no mystery anymore, bro. They know it's you. Don't put your phone number on there or you're going to have pedophiles calling you. That's true. You do kind of look like you're 12 years old. I grow a mustache out.

I know, but... Alright, so ladies and gentlemen, that's all. That's me. Here's our best friend. At Logan Schooley, right? At Logan Funkin' Schooley. At Logan Funkin' Schooley. Got the whole funk in there.

Do you miss your old band, Joe Hurtler? I don't know if you were listening to the radio today, but I played like two hours of Joe Hurtler and the Rainbow Seekers. I missed them. I missed them. It was an unreleased record, you said? Yeah, Hard Times LP, find it on Bandcamp.

I think we're breaking Logan. He put on Fish for 10 seconds. I'm like, fucking Fish! Well, yeah, You guys were like Hating on fish You're like I played the Sick ass Billy Strings song

That came out last night And everybody was like Sean was like And I'm like You're done So you pick You pick the rules That's what I'm saying

Like If you want to listen to fish We'll listen to fish I like fish You like fish? I like fish I just don't listen to them Yeah I like fish too I just don't want to listen to Phish, we'll listen to Phish. I like Phish. You like Phish? I like Phish. I just don't listen to him. Yeah, I like Phish, too.

I just don't want to listen to him when I'm strung out at 9 a.m. I'm not trying to hear Everything's Alright at 9 a.m. with fucking Billy Strings doing a 20-minute guitar solo. Tony, everything's alright. Shout out to Phish. I love Phish. I love Billy. But 9 a.m., I'm about to start a goddamn drive.

Fuck. Too love Billy. But 9 a.m., I'm about to start a goddamn drive. Fuck. Too many notes. I just want to put on some Enya or something. That's why I put on Joe Hurler and the Rainbow Seekers. That was good. That was a vibe. All right, guys. G-Love's on the show.

Who's next? Anyone know anything about G-Love? Floyd knows everything about G-Love. Actually, Floyd, I don't know if you know this, but G-Love tried to take you away from me. He's like, I think Floyd would be a better bass player in my band. Did he say that? I'm going to text him right now.

I got to go. Oh, yeah. We got G-Love on the show. G-Love, two Cape Codders. Dude, G-Love moved to Cape Cod. He's feeling vibey. We have volume.com. Who do you think?

Here's Floyd's ass, podcast people. All right, band. All. Who do you think... Here's Floyd's ass, podcast people. Alright, banned. Alright, here's a... Anyone... I'm gonna give someone $50 if they really do the good pitch on volume.com. Who knows the great pitch on volume.com? $50. Who's got it?

Oh, Bud wants the money. I heard you guys do it for years. I don't know truly what volume.com does I play the drums I don't listen to the podcast I'm going to start talking shit then on the podcast I thought you guys listened to it

I'm about to rip all you motherfuckers on the podcast They support the podcast They do the recaps On our live shows And Ben is the fucking man He takes care of us That's kind of a pitch, what else you got? Volume.com

Where you go to get laid by the internet That's where Logan's dating at Volume.com, if you're an artist A creator of any sort Just live Fuck, no Alright guys, volume.com If you want the best

live stream business in the company, in the business, listen. If you're a content creator, why not make some money? Nugs ain't doing shit for you. I know I have to listen to Nugs all the time with Logan. He loves Nugs. He loves Nugs. He loves Nugs. Head to

volume.com. If you're a content creator, make some money. Let's rebuild the industry. They give money back to the artists, and that's what we got to do.com if you're a content creator make some money let's rebuild the industry they give money back to the artists and that's what we gotta do okay have a good day everyone

this was a great podcast wow what a fantastic podcast no one gave me anything everyone is just stewing it up time for a cold plunge alright we're going to the cold plunge

we have two more shows left you have four days off and then what do we do we're going to we're going back to pigeons. Then we start the pigeons and dogs tour. We'll go cry somewhere for a little while.

Floyd, I'm not going to see you for a couple weeks. You're going to miss him. Where are you going? I have school. Back to school week. Your kid has school. The beginning of school. Is it stressful? Do you have to buy books and papers and pens?

No. No, I don you have to buy books and papers and pens? No. I don't have to do that. Yeah, they do everything on computers, Chromebooks and stuff. New age. Now you've got to buy a Chromebook for your son. Floyd, buy him an Apple laptop.

School provides it. Floyd, do you have money? Buy him an Apple laptop. All right, we got to go. Guys, thank you so much for dealing with the studio. It's the Jacuzzi. Remember, go to volume.com if you want to be a content creator. He wants that 50. And you have stuff that you want to put on the internet.

You want people to stream it. All right. All right. Andy, for trying, you got 50 bucks. Oh, hell yeah. All right, guys. Enjoy G-Love. Thanks for paying for my lunch earlier today.

No problem, buddy. Oh, you're talking about volume. Yeah, thank you, volume, for paying that extra 50 for him to do the pitch. All right, guys. I love you. G-Love, sorry we're in the jacuzzi. I'll be less distracted next week, I swear.

I know I've just been on the road. It's just been fucking nonstop. I got a lot of things brewing. Album's done. Tour's going on. We're working on a cartoon. I'll talk to you about that in a couple weeks. But it's fucking crazy what's about to happen.

And then we're going on the Pigeons Dogs tour. We got 25 more shows, guys. Buckle up. Frasco fans, thanks for being here for me and thanks for being here for the band. 25 more shows. That's it. Give them some motivation, Logan. What do you got? I need everything I get. We got 25 more shows, so we're going to be

running hard and dirty out there. So come on out, guys. Come on. Say hi. Go to volume.com. Get your subscription. You remind me of Kamala Harris' vice president. Tim Wolfe! Shout out to Tim Wolfe! We're not getting political.

I love Tim Wolfe, dude. That guy's the fucking man I've been following. Okay, guys, we got no more political. Okay, goodbye. Goodbye. Have a good one. I'm your garbage man Coming down your street Better kick your can Kick your can Better get your butt down on the curb And say hey to me

I'm at a liquor store Give them to the aisle Where you won't buy I'm on that subway line Put me shop eating toast tonight I never beg, beg, beg You won't find I'm on that subway line The puppy shop Eating toast and egg I never beg, beg me I never get down

On my knees I'm gonna get you just to see I got you just to see There he is. The man. The myth. The man. The myth. The legend. The biggest star out of Cape Cod since...

What's up, Garrett? How you doing, buddy? I'm good, man. I just, you know, I was fishing. Just living the dream here in Cape Cod. I was just fishing, and then my manager hit me and said, oh, you got the podcast in an hour. And that was after I was...

Oh, yeah. But it was really about 30 minutes, 34 minutes. That's why I had to text Andy and say, hey, man, can we push back a half hour, bro? I mean, you need... I mean, I like that you're actually chilling. You're always working. You're always like... You have like 27 kids now actually chilling. You're always working.

You're always like, you have like 27 kids now, Garrett. Like, how many kids do you have? Well, I have four kids. My oldest, Aiden, he just graduated from Mass Art past week in architecture. So that was awesome. And then I got Louis, who's eight. Kelsey, my wife, and I, we have Lewis, who's eight. Garrett Cass is four, and June's two. They're both inside right now.

We'll see how this goes. They're watching Groot. The kids love Groot, man. I love it, man. Guardians of the Galaxy. Garrett, tell me like so when you get free time you don't want to take it for granted right and you're going fishing like how important are those times for your mentals because you're always doing something all the time for everyone else

um man thanks yeah no i i um it's funny man I, when I'm, you know how it is, like when you're on a road, uh, it's kind of like you're in a little bubble. So you have all this time. Um, I mean, look, the road is a grind, but let's be honest, we have a shit ton of time, you know, and, and you can really, and it's all about, you know, it's all about you. you know but it's all about you so when i'm home it's just the opposite you know it's like it's just all about the kids my wife and um yeah so today it's it's really important like uh it's everything to me right now is my family and so you know every everything i'm doing you know on the stage and off the stage ultimately is for my family and um yeah to spend to be home right now it's kind of my mellow time you know the spring and the fall so this is just like you know family time so the kids had had preschool or daycare whatever but i was like no we're having a daddy day come on let's go i like that like i'm about to be on the road soon you won't remember my name here in a couple of years if I keep touring like this. Go watch TV while I do an interview. No, I mean,

exactly. Watch TV. And then I go like, the soup's cold. Put it back in the microwave. Where's mom? So, I was going to say, man,

your new collaboration with Little Stranger, what do you call it? Found God at a Festival. Found God at a Festival. We made love, nothing sexual. I mean, this shit's been like running in my head. Dude, thanks, bro. Non-stop, bro.

So thank you. Dude, yeah. Now that we're on the same management company i think we need to do more collabs i think it's time yeah we definitely yeah we mean more we do we have to do one yeah that's true we haven't done a collab yet have we not done a collab yet i don't know i mean i don't think so right now oh shit you know because oh yeah you don't remember whether or not you wrote a song with G-Love? I think because I've done so much stuff with him.

I'm kidding. I mean, damn, Gary, we got to do that. No, I wanted to... Before we talk about the music, I have this question. So when you get on tour, when you get off tour, day one, does your wife just hand off the kids and say, peace out? I'm taking like fucking two. What's that like?

What's that first transition like it's like a running back going into the handoff yeah the handoff the ravens i definitely had i definitely have had that coming off the stage a couple times too just like get off the stage my wife's like here i'm like whoa i just got off the stage It's my turn to drink But yeah That shit is real You know When I get home Because these three kids are crazy And she's got her hands full

And you know we don't have a nanny Like she'll get babysitters You know a couple times a week And the kids do go to daycare And she's working now Kelsey's working now for a marketing company so um yeah when i get home she wants to go out i kind of it's a little bit of a problem because i'm like yo i want to hang with my wife too you know but she's like no i want to she wants to go out with her girlfriends and so that's kind of what this

year's been been like but it's all good you know i totally get it i mean she's you know look the kids are crazy and it's a lot so yeah i'm happy when i get home i just want to hang with the kids anyhow so yeah that's it man that's daddy daycare daddy cooking dinners running the vacuum making the bed changing the diapers oh everything man i'm doing it all man oh my god is that first when like i'd be overwhelmed dude like you just got alpha like stimulation overload on the tour then all of a sudden like you don't have a day so like maybe like your chill time is on the road instead of like you know for you to decompress so like you could handle that right when you get off or

is it vice versa i don't know i mean look it's both like um you know um like i said earlier the road is definitely gives you that kind of focus you can get up you know have have some breakfast you know hit the gym you'll take care of business calls you know get a sound check uh vip nap right you know nap like you don't nap when you're home right now for like an hour two hours before the show yeah and then you know get up warm up have a cocktail you know start partying and let's let's party man It's showtime. Then rinse and repeat. So, you know, when you're home, the happy hour kind of is a thing, though, for us

because we got a little hot tub. So that's kind of our jam. Like we get the kids and, you know, crack open a cold one and hot tub it up and then cook dinner for the kids. And then, you know, it's just like every time. I mean, the days just seem to go so fast no matter what I'm doing these days.

I know. Isn't that crazy about life when we get older and everything happens so much fucking quicker. Yeah. It just, everything is just speeding up. And then, you know,

I don't know about you, but, and, you know, uh, I don't know how much people realize, but like our, you know,

like the thing about the lifestyle that we lead as performers and artists is that our schedule, like you can look ahead and see what you're doing pretty much almost for a whole year now. Right. You know, and it's kind of like I have this. This feeling of like perpetual emotion or like I'm already i'm already in the future because i know where what it's going to be and so it's hard sometimes to you know you're always trying to live in the present right but like you can just see it all ahead of you i know you know what's coming does it overwhelm you i i mean sometimes it kind of overwhelms me, but, um, I almost, sometimes I feel like it's like, it's like I can see into the future, like, you know, 30 years from now,

it's just like, it's, it's just all going and you can see the trajectory. I mean, hopefully it goes as I'm seeing it, you know, but yeah, look, I just really try to enjoy the moment. But at the same time, you know, like I'm home right now for the week. And then this weekend, I'll be running. I got a private show in Connecticut. And then I wake up early and go play in J.J. Gray's another regime artist. Yeah. His Blackwater Soul Review in St. Augustine in saint august oh cool yeah you know man just just running and gunning and then and then i don't know about you too because like then when you're off if i'm off for like a week and a half or two weeks

then i start to panic yeah yeah you lose your rhythm because you're like you you're not working so you're not bringing in money and then and then i don't know about you also too because instagram fucks with me in a big way kind of emotionally yeah sometimes especially when i'm off and you see all your friends selling out you know doing this and this and this and this and yeah right and then you're like fuck i'm it's just like you feel like if you stop for a minute that everything is just keep on going so

fast in this business that you feel like you're falling behind. Yeah. It's crazy. I hate that because then you gotta overwork. Like, that's the same thing. It's like, this is why I'm working so much because that FOMO of the touring and it's fucked up.

You're getting lapped in the distance. Exactly. Getting lapped in the distance race. That's just all in your head because you're already booked for a year and you need to fucking chill. They take months off too. People should start posting their days off on Instagram so you can see that other people are chilling.

I didn't do anything today, guys, just so you know. You know what I mean? I did saw two theaters this weekend. Yeah, exactly. It's okay. I was chilling. Yeah, I was talking. Who were you talking to? I was talking to Cope the other day about this

because I was really having a kind of a meltdown. I felt just totally fucked up about it and it was spurred by instagram and um just having this this you know having that because look look i'm i'm always rooting for you know what what my friends are out there doing you know but there's also an edge of competition to what we do. Right. Because,

you know, you're worried about like, Oh, how are my ticket sales or how are, you know, record sales? Well, what's that?

But any kind of, any kind of barometer as to what's, what's happening, you know, with our careers. So there's always like this. And then everyone's always releasing shit and touring. And yeah,

it's just, it's so nuts. You got to put it down, man. But then, you know, you just keep you fucking glued to fucking Instagram. And then everyone's always releasing shit and touring. Yeah. Sometimes you got to put it down, man. But then, you know, you just keep you fucking glued to fucking Instagram. You know, scrolling and liking and posting and everything. That's the problem. We need to stop doing that on our time off. It's impossible.

It's impossible. Yeah. Right. But it's still fun. I'm happier. Like, you're happier when you're fucking having happy hour with the family. You know, like, you've got to remember that like when you're cracking a beer with the family for sparing your your free time like i've been trying really hard to not scroll it's hard it's fucking hard it's so funny i know like there's so much funny stuff i i did it this morning like i was like

damn stop looking at instagram i shut it down and then my finger automatically went right back to the app. I was like, what the fuck, man? Come on, dude. You live in Cape Cod. Do you have a lot of friends out there? Or is it hard to find friends because you're always away?

No, actually, that sounds really sad, man. I feel that way in Denver. I can't really connect with friends. Is it hard for you to find friends, Chilo? I think that's an age. Well, you have kids and you're on the road. Wouldn't you have time to go have a beer with a homie?

Well, actually, no. Actually, look. So when I lived in Boston, I did feel like that. I was really kind of felt isolated from 2004 to like 2016. Right. Because if I was going out, if I was home with my kid, I didn't want to go out. So I was not going out. And so I would just sit in my apartment after my son went to sleep. And then if I want to go out, I'd go out in New York or L.A.

Because that's what I was interested in, going out in those seats. But I wasn't going out in Boston. But then when I came to Cape Cod, I really did find a happy place. And Kelsey and I, um, we've had made, made amazing friends in this community of living in a small town. It was just awesome. Like everybody knows each other, you know, everybody's, everybody's friends. And then with the kids, you know, you, you're always meeting parents and stuff. And so we have a really awesome friend group. So, uh, and yeah, We have a really awesome friend group.

I got a good... My best friend's guy named Adrian. We go fishing. We all have kids. A lot of fishing. A lot of beach-oriented activities. Surf and everything else. It's great, man. I don't really go out.

I can't really do that, you know? Gotta meet Martha Stewart. Doesn't she live there? What, Martha Stewart lives in Cape Cod? Doesn't she have a big house in Cape Cod? She does. Yeah, yeah. Fuck yeah.

Does she? I don't know. I don't know. Probably. Was it hard to adjust into this small, I mean, you're a city kitty like I am, bro. You love the big city, you like the big lights. So how hard was it to adjust? Gee, you're the fucking man.

I think about my life a lot compared to yours, bro, because you've had such an amazing career. I do want to talk about the anniversary of the record. I heard about the Sony news. That's very exciting. And the festival. You think you're putting on a festival, too? Oh, yeah.

Let's talk about it in a second. What was the adjustment to go from big city? I mean, you've had such a career, then go to fucking Cape Cod and slow it the fuck down. You know? Not disrespect to Cape Cod, because it's beautiful. That's the point of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

How hard was the adjustment? Well, and then a year after we moved down here full time, COVID hit. So it was like. Oh, wow. Yeah. But look, I grew up in Philadelphia in the center city and I grew up in and then I lived in Boston in the center city of Boston. So I'd only lived in these two cities, you know, my whole life. And so I I did write this song called Cape Cod Winter Blues. I love that song.

Which was like, it's freezing cold. No one's around. I'm walking down Main Street in Orleans town. But it was like, yeah, because there's no one around. And Cape Cod in the wintertime, there's literally no one around. You're like, traffic on the two is like, okay, there's a turkey. A turkey's just crossed the road. That's it.

I never thought about that. A turkey. Right. A turkey's just across the road. That's it. I never thought about that. Yeah. I'll be driving back from the airport, you know, on Sunday or Monday or like late Sunday night. And, you know, there's, you get out of Boston and the further you get from Boston, there's less cars and then there's no cars.

And I'm like, what the fuck am I doing? You know, but so it't a little bit of adjustment but i really loved it now you're celebrating an anniversary of the record i heard you you've been in talks with sony and stuff i mean like tell me about that yeah no i mean look uh in may may may may 5th yeah de Mayo 1994, before there even was Cinco de Mayo. Right? They invented Cinco de Mayo. It's not a Mexican holiday. It's like a marketing

campaign made by Dos Equis and Corona. But yeah, it's made by the Mexican Restaurant Coalition of North America. Cinco de Mayo. Are you serious? Probably. But anyways, Strong Coalition of North America. Yeah, exactly. Are you serious? Probably.

But anyways, yeah, 1994, our first record dropped. And so, yeah, we had the 30th anniversary this year. And yeah, it's been awesome, man. You know, we just, we did a whole winter tour where we played the same set for you know 48 shows in a

row uh which was basically the first record set right and i i don't really hardly have ever done that playing the same set in my career but it was a real show and it really um it was it was great to do you ever do that do you ever do the same show over and over again? That's my dream. I want to do that. It's interesting. You're like the opposite of everybody else. I just want to be an autopilot. It's interesting because

think about you on Broadway doing the same show every day. You really fine-tune the minutia of it. I think there's a lot of pressure in the jam band world and just the live touring world to keep always mixing it up, which is awesome, cool.

We do that, but I don't know. There's something to say about getting to play the same set. It's like a stand-up. They're working on their special all year round just like finding the beats in it and like yeah that's my dream dude i wish i wasn't in the jam scene because

of that because i would fucking because all these other bands have just one set and they play it all fucking years and they play the shit out of it though i'm like that sounds amazing yeah but here's the other thing too is like look like everybody wants to be like the grateful dead and fish and like some artists get to that spot where there are like You know where you have your fans that are like traveling with you for the whole tour, but I don't think it's I don't think that it's I mean do like I kind of realized Some time ago. I was like, okay. Yeah, this is pretty there might be a couple of people that are coming to you know multiple shows and stuff like that there's a handful but it's not the

majority of people are just going to the show in their town yeah you know what i'm saying so there's really the pressure you put on yourself to you know play you know no repeats in a week like doesn't upraise magida does that like like no repeats in two weeks or something like that. Or more than that. Yeah, it's crazy. So go back to that before I interrupted you. You said you were doing 48 shows,

same set. Was that when you were on tour open for Tribe called Quest? Weren't you open for Tribe? I mean, I did open for Tribe back in the day. What was that first tour? I thought you were opening for someone. you open for tribe i mean i i did open for tribe what was that first tour like what was that first tour i thought you were opening for someone or oh yeah well no our first tour in 94 was um opening for the violent fems oh hell yeah and that was that was cool that was uh and then there's um

and then we did do a lot of shows with hip-hop a lot of hip-hop artists including we did a bunch of college shows with Tribe Called Quest Yeah That was so so cool. Although, you know, it was challenging Look hip-hop was in the 90s. It was just such a Hip-hop has kind of taken over the music industry through production So that everything is made like a hip-hop record now whether it's country Even in blues like when I did my record with Kevin I was like this one's like we're making a hip-hop like he's making beats except he's making blues beat

One of chemo is actually using an MPC. Oh, I know. That's crazy. And Pro Tools and making beats. And we went back and put live drums on them. Yeah, but like hip hop. But back in the day, hip hop was just like a very cultural thing. And it was a tough. It was for us three guys to be up doing our kind of garage band, hip hop influence, rock and roll. It was some tough shows.

Yeah, like hot white dudes from Philly rolling in there. Hello, hip-hop fans. Hello, hip-hop fans. This is our song. Yeah, and like... We have a special song. I remember Q-Tip comes out one day.

It was like a college somewhere up here. And he's like, y'all make some noise for G-Level Special. They came out and did their thing. I was like, oh, it's cool. He was cool. I got to play with Run DMC and Guru

when he was doing Jazz Mataz. He did a lot of shows with K-R-S1. I just feel like a lot of different hip-hop people, which is crazy, man. That was crazy.

And Cypress Hill, who actually is going into Slightly Stupid, it's closer to the sun. Like, B-Real is one of my top five MCs, and my guitar tech, Frank Caracci and I, we're such huge Cypress Hill fans. Every time we see B-Real catering, we guitar tech, Frank, Frank Karachi. And I was such huge cyber sales fans. Every time we see like be relocated and we're like,

here he is. Run away. Run away. He's like, Hey Garrett. Yeah. He's like, Hey Garrett,

we've been through this before. Hey, you're famous too. Remember? Yeah. Except for like, you're like, would be real.

You grew up and you're like, yeah, the guy's like smoke. I remember the first time that I saw a cyber sale video on MTV and smoking a blunt. And it's like, you're like, with Be Real, you grew up and you're like, dude, the guy's like, smoke. I remember the first time that I saw a Cypress Hill video on MTV and smoking a blunt. And it's like, how I could just kill a man? And I'm like, holy shit. He's at catering. He's looking at the pasta.

Don't kill me. Has there ever been a moment where, like, you know, you're opening for people and they weren't cool with it? Say hey to Andy Frasco. Oh, what's up, with it? Say hey to Andy. Oh, what's up, little man? Say hi, Mr. Frasco. Hi. Your dad's a rock star. He can't hear you.

You're really great with kids, though, Andy. I know you are. What do you want? What do you want? Do you want these crackers? Oh, good question. They're not looking to stop. I love it.

I'll come in in a minute and do it. Okay, I'll come fix it in a minute. We'll close up here pretty soon. He's just showing us. House tour. House tour. But, gee, was there ever a moment where, like, they, you know, where it was such a culture

that they weren't fucking with you being a white rapper? Well, that's basically what I'm saying. I'm just kind of beating around the bush. No, no, actually... No, actually, I should... What do you call it when you detract it?

No, it was actually the crowd was like that. Okay, but the artists never were like that. And that was the coolest thing to like... And look, I don't know if they sincerely... I think no, because the first time I met QTV, he was like, yo, I'm a fan. I was like, what? Sick, dude.

Just retire. And then KRS-One, yeah, just to get a dap and a hug. And people just recognize you. And it's the coolest thing. I'll never forget. Actually, I had another be real. There was this club in LA called Dublin's. And actually, Jay-Z rocks about it. And that's why I'm a

host, baby. Dublin's. But we're at Dublin's and I was outside smoking a joint or whatever and I rolled up and Be Real and Everlast were right there. And they were like, yo, what up, G? And I was like, what? You guys fucking know who I am? Holy shit.

Everlast and fucking Be Real, man. I yo, what up, G? And I was like, what? You guys fucking know who I am? Holy shit. I would just go home. Fucking Everlast and fucking B-Real, man. I mean, those guys, man. Yeah, there's so many legends. Yeah. Yeah, man. How does it feel that your record's turned 30? It feels like a massive success just to have been in this game for so long because this is a game like

music is life right music is is a higher power thing and it's also our our hobby first probably for most of us and our passion but the music business is a game and to figure out you know how to juggle that like to do the keep the music pure right and still you know exist in this fucked up business i know that's like the game and that's something that you know i i think i really started figuring out like you know 10 years into it um and i made a lot of mistakes that i wish i could take back but eventually um you know kind of figured out a nice balance how to balance the two things and um look you know i when you think about 30 years've got to give it to the fans because ultimately, you know, talking about musician insecurities,

I don't know if you have it, but I always have this sensation, like, you'll be like, ask your TM, like, is anybody coming tonight? What's the ticket count? Every goddamn night, Garrett! Every goddamn night, bro! Yeah, you're like, is anybody coming?

You know what I mean? Then you come out, and there's a room full of people, and it's night, bro. Yeah, you're like, is anybody coming? Then you come out and there's a room full of people and it's just, wow. It never, never ever ceases to amaze me. It's all about the fans. 30 years, what has inspired you to keep making records and keep making

records? You still love it. Yeah, I love to be in the oh yeah i love to be in this well actually i should say i love to be in the studio for a short amount of times like i don't like these days like i there's so much stuff i want to do outside right now that i don't want to be in a studio for like a month and i don't want to be in a studio for 12 hours but I love to be in a studio for like you know, 4 or 8 hours on a rainy day. Yeah, just a lunch break.

Not a lunch break and a dinner break. Just a lunch break. No lunch break, man. Down here, I'm like I go in at 10 I do my thing and then leave at 3 to go pick up the kids. Perfect. So that's like i'm i'm all about like i'm all about like when i go in a studio

now i'm like you guys fucking like uh just whether i'm writing in studio or like recording or or doing both like it's just or or making a records like have your shit together You know be warmed up fucking Just fucking take care of business. Yeah, boss shit out. I'm not hanging out fucking great and then fucking We spent a lot of time like in the 90s because we you know, we have budgets to make records They're like right 250 350 thousand dollars and they want you to make records that are like $250,000, $350,000. And they want you to spend all that money, man. Because they owe it back.

It's like a mafia. It's a racket. Yeah. They fucking want you to spend the money. And they would be like, well, we don't hear a single. All right, book another month. Holy shit. Get some fucking mushrooms. Yeah. All right, let another month. Holy shit. Take some fucking mushrooms.

Yeah, let's see. How are we going to get this figured out? Let's take some more mushrooms. Drug them up. All the good bands are all drugged up. Let's give them money and drugs. Money and drugs for these young kids who are really excited about their career. What can go wrong with six figures and drugs?

Damn. It's like fucking, yeah. It's fucking true. So like, yeah, I'm like that too. I'm like, I'm in and out. I'm not rolling in there. My generation of musicians didn't have the luxury of being in the studio for a fucking month and a half.

Like as a touring musician, I had like, I'd be in there heavy for three days or something. And then I have to go back on the road. Yeah. I'd be very out of money. Yeah. I think the band would break up if we had to write a record all month.

Yeah. Sometimes. I know. Just like, and we'd be like, we're trying to, you know, that we'd be trying to Catch the magic

And now I don't know why it seems so hard Back in the day And then when we catch it It would be something really special Now when I go into the studio There's not that thing in my head Like

You know I know I'm going to catch the like put the mic up make sure it's fucking loud as shit right i can hear my vocal and like i love it like let me blow like let me play the harmonica like i'm ready to go you know like i'm catching the magic it's not a big it's it's just like uh so i don't know i don't know why that was seemed like such a challenge at times back in the day maybe we're just overthinking the magic maybe like i think so the magic is just yourself and like when you're not overthinking like this has to be a hit like it's just like i'm just gonna be fucking me dude and that's the magic well i'm sure if i went back now and like listened to outtakes of you know songs that made the record

and the ones that we didn't choose then probably would sound the same exact as the songs that we the takes that we did shoot right exactly just to your point of the of chasing the magic yeah yeah it's like i i get that idea of like i think like the magic is like being able to like be an open vessel when those songs come, you know? Like when you're at the Cape, like when you're just sitting and all of a sudden you're painting or something, all of a sudden like you found that the vessel opens. You know, that's important to me is always being ready for the vessel to be open like being in the studio that's great but like the songs are what's the most important right g that's right yeah so like absolutely the songs yeah so like what about like when you're like uh you know changing a diaper and shit i was like oh fuck the vessel is opening hey Siri stop that voice

I literally changed a shitty diaper like at 1.28 2 minutes before we started the podcast this kid definitely had the sauce I'm like fuck June definitely took a shit I'm like did you poop

like yeah okay what a fucking yeah man Like, did you take it? Did you poop? Like, yeah. Oh, okay. What a fucking G. You just done the interview. Yeah, man. Like, yeah, we're, we're, you know, like, um, yeah, the song it's, it's, it's such a great point.

Like the songs are really everything. And, um, that's what I always say because like look Everybody like can play Okay Unless you're such a great vocalist or such a great guitar player It doesn't really matter what you're singing or playing or I should say this I should say dude i've written so many fucking hit songs and recorded them if I was like a singer like You know just say ben harper for example or like my buddy Ron Artees or something, someone that can really fucking sing. I do my thing with my vocals. I just feel like, wow, the songs are everything.

The songs are everything. Especially for someone like me whose skill set is good, but not like... Whether you believe in natural talent or God-given talent, or you believe that it's all about putting in work to achieve that talent. Ultimately, people want to have something to connect with and it's a song and that's just like you know just to keep talking about your new single all fucking day that's just that's such a great line though like I found God at a festival

you know we made love nothing sexual and like wow like I totally know what you're saying and who else has written about an experience at a festival other than like the joni mitchell song about woodstock like yeah no one yeah no one's writing the no one's talking about their experience at a festival that i've heard of recently yeah you're just as good as joni mitchell it's such an experience that everyone everyone's going to festivals right

yeah speaking of which yeah you got your i festival. I know. Let's fucking go. That's my guy. Segment kick. Joni Mitchell, Andy Fresco. G-Love, tell me about your festival. Yeah, so we have our fourth year festival. It's called Outermost Roots and Blues. And it's here in Orleans, Massachusetts at Nauset Beach on October 12th and 13th.

And this is going to be our biggest year so far. So this is... I'm not even supposed to announce the shit or not, but Slightly Stupid's playing. I'm doing my set with G-Loved Donovan and Frank and Rotter. Ron Ortiz is confirmed. What are you announcing

so we'll release this episode? I don't know. Sometime in the next... I want to say May 27th. I'm not sure, though. It's got to be soon if it's in October. And some other people. Are you...

You play festivals. Oh, sorry. The other band that's confirmed is John Brown's Body. Oh, sorry. The other band that's confirmed is John Brown's Body. Oh, yeah. They're an amazing reggae group. They're just coming back.

Yeah, didn't they take a hiatus? We have a lot of friends. Yeah, I think they haven't been doing something for over 10 years. I thought J-Rad was in that. Was he? No, it's like... Oh, Africano. And Nate from N's Power. I thought J-Rad was in that Was he? No, it's like He probably was

Dan Africano Oh, Africano And Nate from N's Power Oh, it's the Vermont kids Drew Sayers was in the horn section Yeah, it's the Vermont kids Scott, yeah A lot of Denver guys moved here after they quit that band

Well, maybe I'll just roll over there I got nothing to do in October I'll come out too Yeah, I'll go Come on, bro I fucking love the Cape, dude I've never been, yeah I want to check it out I fucking love the Cape, dude. I've never been. Yeah, I want to check it out.

I fucking love the Cape. We played that Beachcombers. Is it Beachcombers? Oh, yeah, yeah. It's right up the road. Yeah. Yeah, that place was great. We're doing this festival called Crooked Coast out there.

Oh, yeah. Oh, you are. Cool. Yeah, yeah. Is that near your house? That's in Falmouth, I think. Yeah, Falmouth. Am I wrong?

Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Oh, so you're playing that? That's in Falmouth? Yeah, Falmouth. Am I wrong? Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Oh, so you're playing that? That's cool. That's awesome. And then shout out to Floyd. Floyd's still in the band? Oh, yeah.

When he can make it. When he can make it. Because he lives in Nantucket one step further. Yeah, they're like right by each other, right? Oh, dude. Yeah, yeah. Your stories about wintertime in Cape Cod is basically what fucking Floyd deals with in Nantucket, dude. It's like a fucking island.

Dude, he's like just, he's in his pickup truck and fucking in these cobblestone fucking roads. He's like, fuck. Oh, right. They don't give a shit. Yeah, they don't give a shit about the roads. No. No one's there, yeah. So tell me about the festival here before we get going.

So are you nervous? Aren't you nervous about putting out a festival in 2023? Is it kind of a little frightening or do you like having that little, do you like, did you have to fund all the money or did you get a sugar daddy? No, I wish I had a sugar daddy or sugar mom. It was better,

but hell yeah. But, but we, it it's it's cool it's kind of been grassroots um you know this like i said we did two years and then covet hit so we shut it down in the first two years we didn't really make any money but um we we made just a little little like literally a couple thousands of dollars. But that being said, we didn't lose money. It's a small community. It's a small community.

The community has been very supportive. And then we relaunched it last year. And we wanted it to go small just to kind of test the waters. And yeah, we sold 1,200 tickets in like 24 hours. So that was great. And then this year, we have some – this year, I tapped some of my friends, like Sully Stupid and someone else who I can't really talk about yet. Off the record, off the record, who is it?

I'm not going to say it. I can't say it because he's not confirmed. Okay. And I don't want to say it But So now we're And the town's super behind So now we're 5,000 people A day

So I feel good about it You know The money that we did make last year We put back into the festival So we have a little bit of a cushion. But yeah, I mean, I guess, yeah, just to your point, I guess there are so many fucking festivals out. But Cape is different. It's like it's a little thing, you know?

Bubble. Yeah. And there's nothing out here like that, you know? Yeah. And like all the Northeast festivals. I mean, the Northeast fucking is great for music, dude. Everything's close. Everything's close.

It's not like... And like they have their pockets. Like G said, like 1,200 people right off the bat supporting the community. Like you're becoming a Cape Codder, dude. Like this is like you're Cape Cod legend, G. I like fucking cranberry juice, bro. Do you have like salmon shorts, dog?

No, I believe it's... Wait, is it salmon color or is it like Nantucket... What's it called? Nantucket peach. No, it's the Nantucket reds or something. I like those. I don't have them.

No, you don't. I really don't have them no you don't need it no i really don't i don't i don't believe you so go check out but that's more like nick that's more nantucket than the cape i mean the cape is nantucket is that the cape is more like it it is it's it's sure there's a lot of money but there's a lot of working class people right here there's like a community of like fishermen landscapers you know oystermen um construction surfers right yeah construction surfers it's it's really uh it's it's super cool it's super uh you know don't you have like fucking great white sharks though and shit out there yeah we got scary yeah we got fucking great white shark it's

the countryside is wild like dude i got fucking sometimes you'll be in bed a fucking pack of coyotes it's like right outside your fucking window or you know there's like i said there's the wild turkeys all over the place and um you know there's these things called fisher cats which are like i never seen them but them, but they look like a small... Yeah, like a wolverine, but they're this big. They're super crazy predators. Yeah, there's great white sharks population. I mean, I've seen great white sharks while surfing numerous times.

What the fuck? All that, dude. No way. He was behind the sim in the self-checkout at Walgreens. Why are you getting fish oil? You haven't done it. Why the fuck am I out there? I'm not a good surfer.

I can surf pretty good, but I'm not going to be pro. I love it so much. It's so stupid. Why am I on here? I got all these shark bands, which are like magnets that you wear on a wristband.

The magnets are supposed to mess with the shark's electrical pulses. That's how they find you. Wow. They can't see you. You're doing all this. They can't see you. They smell you. So you're doing all this

just to fucking serve. Yeah, that's wild, dude. Nothing for Andy to be scared of. I'm so happy. Yeah, fuck that. I'm going to hang out with you. We're just going to drink beer and hang out in your jacuzzi, dude.

I'm not going to fucking, I'm not doing no goddamn wave pool. Fuck all that. They're not in the wave pool. Come to the festival Like Andy Frasco's here He's not performing He's at the hot tub

No I'm at the hot tub I'll MC the thing dude I mean Everyone's like going sober right now Like I know So I'm like Yeah

I'm not Oh that's why That's why I didn't get the invite Garrett You don't want me to fucking start You don't want me to stir the cord No So everyone's going sober Yeah I've been realizing that too dude

I've been like Except they're all still doing mushrooms and acid Yeah it's like California sober California sober I'm sober why do you have cocaine Yeah I wrote a song called California sober And then

Of course like Billy Strings and Willie Nelson Put one out Jesus And I was like Fuck I wrote that I wrote it

Now I can't do anything with it Well let's do Let's write a song called Denver sober Denver sober What's that Where you still do every drug Where you still do every drug

But you But you lie to yourself. But you don't have a job, so it's not a problem. You feel terrible about it. You feel terrible because you're just lying about your whole life. Well, G, I love you, man. I'm so proud of you. Love you too, brother.

I'm Team G. I'm so happy that we're working together. We're on the same management company. This is going to be great. I know we're going to do it. Ivory's already been talking, and I've been trying to maybe do a Frasco G tour. Indie Frasco on the special sauce. Check it one, two.

Let's go. Check it one, two. I love it. We'll talk about it off air, but I think it'd be I think we could all like, I think it'd be a sick thing. I believe in it. So let's do it. Yeah. And also, too, we got to get you out here to the festival, you know, if not this year, the next year.

Yeah. It'd be epic. I mean, we ain't going anywhere, G. I know your work ethic and you know mine. So let's fucking get after it, bud. Let's go, bro. Let's go, bro. Awesome. Well, congratulations on 30 years in the industry.

Keep fucking crushing, dude. Don't forget, when that vessel opens, tell that baby that shit's going to be smeared in his body because G has to ride a fucking hit, baby. We need that retirement money, okay? You trying to go to college or not?

Yeah, you want to go to college? You're going to have shit on your body for a couple more minutes. You're going to fucking go to college. Watch Groot. Watch Groot. I'm talking to Andy Fresco. With your poopy pants. College ain't going to exist by the time I'm 18.

All right, G, I love you, man. Go get out there. Go get some family time. Love you guys. Stoked for you, bro. Great to see you. Hit me up anytime, bro. And thanks for that advice with Ivory.

How are you doing? Thanks for that advice with Ivory. I mean, you're the man. Yeah, man. I love you, buddy. Well, let's go. Let's go get it, man. Let's go get it.

All right. All right. Let's make that money. Later, buddy. Later. All right. Later on. You tuned in to the WorldSelfie Podcast with Andy Fresco.

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