Andy Frasco's World Saving Podcast - EP 288: Nick & Andy

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

If ever you were in doubt as to the deep love that can be shared between two middle-class dudes, then look no futher than this: another exciting installment of Nick & Andy talking at each other for an hour. Join the love fest, won't you? But wait. What's all this about Nick buying a guitar??  We're psyched to partner up with our buddies at Volume.com! Check out their roster of upcoming live events and on-demand shows to enrich that sweet life of yours. Call, leave a message, and tell us if you think one can get addicted to mushrooms: [phone]  Check out our new album!, L'Optimist on all platforms Follow us on Instagram @worldsavingpodcast For more information on Andy Frasco, the band and/or the blog, go to: AndyFrasco.com Check out our good friends that help us unwind and sleep easy while on the road and at home: dialedingummies.com Produced by Andy Frasco, Joe Angelhow, & Chris Lorentz Audio mix by Chris Lorentz Featuring: Mara Davis

and we're live we're here i'm here actually alive we did it we made it through the weekend that was scary andy frasco's world-saving podcast i'm andy frasco has her heads has her mind just hot off ofs, hot off the hospital, hot off steroids, hot off everything. Steroids are annoying. They are. I had them once. I had them once for my back thing. Injection.

Oh, yeah. Inject it right into your... Oh, fuck. So you just feel it straight from your spine? I mean, it hurts like shit. It's like a big, long needle. They have to lay you down. It's very embarrassing.

Kept me up for like two days. Yeah, dude. I had hiccups real bad, too. I had hiccups, shit. It's like a big, long needle. They have to lay you down. It's very embarrassing. Kept me up for like two days. Yeah, dude. Even the hiccups were real bad, too. I had the hiccups, too. Killed a guy. You killed a guy. I was going to do that anyway, though. I got Nick Gerlach, my co-host.

Volume.com. Your chost. Employee. My chost. It's just Nick and I. Your favorite. This week, your favorite episodes. No stupid guests talking about their career.

Fucking guests talking about their mental health. We get it. You got nominated for a Grammy once. We get it. You're sad because you only make a million dollars. Yeah, exactly. You're poor now. You had to sell your fucking third house.

We're just kidding. Yeah, we're just kidding. No, we've had cool guests lately. We've had some fucking awesome guests. Who's next week? JJ Gray Oh yeah that was a good one Today we announced that I am going on tour with JJ Gray

Me and Sean are going solo First time ever Doing opening or doing anything That's duo A duo Solo's one person Duo Acoustic

Duet Sean and I staring each other's eyes Hearing all your favorite Frasco and the UN songs. I wonder how long it takes before we kill each other. I think you'll be fine. I think so too. There's less outside. Noises. Yeah.

It'll be fun going out with JJ. I don't think, yeah. I think with Sean and I together just by ourselves, I think we're going to bond even more. Yeah, I think you'll be fine. Are you going to take a tour manager? I don't know. I want to take a merch person. I don't think I need a tour manager.

Maybe just another driver. Where are you going to go? You should just rent a minivan. That'd be sick. I mean, I have my Sprinter. Oh, yeah, but that's just so big for three guys. I know, but I don't have to pull a trailer. True.

Unless I bring my fucking party machine, which I probably shouldn't. I wouldn't. Why would you do that? So you're not going to do the antics? Yeahics what am I going to jump up on the fucking piano bring the fucking foam out or the fucking fog machine out for acoustic tears in heaven I bought a guitar over the weekend

I'm like what's up JJ great fans speaking of tears in heaven elevate I bought a guitar on Friday I don't know. I just wanted one. You ever be a guitar player? I'm just something. It's fun. I've been playing it like an hour a day. I don't know

why it'd feel weird for you just like holding an acoustic guitar. Oh, I got an electric guitar, but yeah, I would never get an acoustic guitar. That's embarrassing. Hey, Julie, let me show you this song. She's like, God damn it. Another review. When you hold my hand if I saw you in heaven. What if I'm a singer-songwriter in like two years?

I'm playing the Washington Park Grill every Tuesday. Doing 90s covers. Anyway, brother, here's Wonderwall. Yeah, anyway, brother. Hey, Cougars You know It's $2 you call it And the $9.99 steak At Wash Grill

But Here's Wonderwall Making the most money I've ever made in my life How was Red Rocks? I didn't go It was a lot of fun Bo texted me at like

10 or something I was at that wedding gig I had to miss Because I played a wedding guys It's embarrassing But You made money. I made a lot of money, so it was worth it.

But Bo texted me, I just realized you're not here. I think your set was over. I was like, yeah, I had to go make some grill. Yeah. Trivia and podcasting co-hosts don't make the most money. Well, I'm never going to turn on more money. You know what I mean? That's true.

I clapped. Yeah, you can't. Who doesn't more money. You know what I mean? That's true. I clapped. Yeah, you can't. Who doesn't think it's too much money? It's definitely too little. It's too little money. It's like the ocean. It's like the ocean. We're not talking Led Zeppelin, brother.

Good. I don't know that much about them. Red Rocks is good. I mean, the week before, I almost died. That was scary, dude. Yeah, what happened? Do you have swollen lymph nodes? Breaking your your throat i think this is what happened i think i didn't know i had covid the last week of pigeons tour oh and i was just working working working fucking party because

we didn't drink that day that you know got whatever you even told me like dude you look fucking you look shitty look weird i was we're having our meeting with volume yeah yeah yeah i'm like i just couldn't. You looked off. You were off. I was. Everything was just like slow. Yeah.

But the week before, I was kind of feeling lethargic on those last five shows of the Pigeons. By the way, thank you guys so much for coming. Pier 17, holy shit. What a venue. That was unbelievable. And Thompson Point. I got to thank the Jamson. shit what a venue that was unbelievable and thompson point like every they showed i gotta

thank the jamson you showed up and you showed up and you got there right at door but yeah last week was crazy i so i did the pigeons thing i think i had covet i was like starting to feel my throat oh yeah and shit just kind of like oh fucking just yeah just like kind of getting stiffed up and everyone was kind of stiffed up. Also, it could have been the whoop flew from fucking partying. It could have been a lot of things. I love that middle slot. I don't love that you're done

at 7.30. Now you have four hours with nothing to do. Now four hours, I'm drinking. I don't want... The hoes are out. The hoes are out, yeah. I wish. I didn't get laid that much on that tour out. The hoes are out, yeah. I wish. I didn't get laid that much on that tour.

That's probably good. I hooked up once or twice. Probably would have got somebody sick. Some girl out there with Sloan. I'm being cautious. Some girl in Charlotte getting steroids right now. Charlotte. Knoxville.

But yada, yada. And I was just kind of feeling sick, feeling tired, but I just felt like, oh, I've been on the road that long. And then I got home. I got home and fucking, I literally,

right when I walked into my door, my adrenaline, oh, you know, it's like the same thing like right when you get to your house and you finally take a real shit. Like the same thing with adrenaline. Real shower.

Take a real shower. Like you feel like, I finally do that with my house now the same thing with adrenaline. Take a real shower. You feel like, I finally do that with my house now. But I did that. I walked in the door and passed out. And then I guess Bo found me 15 hours later. Just asleep?

Just like kind of my body off the couch and my feet or my legs on the couch the couch just like and my feet on or my my legs on the couch they're like what the fuck is that he was at the house when you work it like right right on that first day guys he i got because i was looking at my text messages with the group chat like ah andy's sleeping we should just let him let him sleep not do the loading. I was unconscious, which was scary. And then when I woke up. You time traveled. I time traveled.

And then my lymph nodes were as golf balls. They hurt like real bad then, huh? Oh, I couldn't move. Couldn't swallow? Well, it was more of I knew what was happening. Right, right, right. Because I have lymph node problems. Oh, you do?

Yeah. But it normally happens in my elbow or my armpits. Yeah. know when i'm starting to get sick but then this happened and it stayed there for a long time it's like the mumps yeah when you get the mumps i thought it was lymph node cancer i don't think that happens that fast but who knows i don't know because they felt really strongly yeah inflamed inflamed but like tough not like yeah kind of like they're moving around like here we go this is how i go what they gave you steroids and it worked like right away Yeah, inflamed. Inflamed, but like tough. Not like, kind of like they're moving around. Like, here we go. This is how I go.

What, they gave you steroids and it worked like right away? No, they gave me an IV. They first thought I had mono. And then they tested. It'd be embarrassing to get in your 30s. What are you, a freshman at University of Arizona State? Or Arizona State University. Getting mono at 36 years old would be fucking funny.

Yeah, I'm a freshman at Arizona State. They call this the Sun Devil disease. It's a real Sun Devil. Yeah, dude. That was scary. I've never canceled. I realized, on Jonah Reminders, you know you've never canceled a show

in your whole life, in your whole career. Were they cool about you canceling? Yeah. Are you going to reschedule?ule yeah i'm rescheduling in february oh when we announce our next denver headline cool so they got a show that's actually a better time a year to go there anyway right yeah when when well fucking you're going deep in the mounds in february but that's when everybody's up there partying that's true and then um but yeah so then i woke up um i was watching oh i gotta i'm i got addicted to this one reality television show i think

i really like it uh real lives of mormon wives oh my god julie julie is i was talking with her about it i was upset we gotta get her to come on and talk about it. Yeah. She can be our Mormon wives correspondent. Dude, it was amazing. I watched two episodes. I watch about an hour of that, and I have to go in the other room and lay down. I can't stand that many women talking at once. It's insane.

Sounds like I'm back at Catholic school. Oh, man. But yeah, it's insane. One of them was a swinger. Yeah, a few of them were swingers. They had big tiktok account right yeah mom broke up because so one of them was fucking yeah one got one beat up her husband that's kind of badass it's kind of badass i feel like a mormon should be allowed to beat up their husband considering all the fucking bullshit they have to go through in their religion i agree let that woman beat the

shit that did she got one you get one one and you have to be married for 10 years but also I think it was also like on this like feminist movement like if the dudes are fucking girls why can't the girl I agree with them like why can't the girls fuck swing too if the men are swinging well that's the structure of the religion it's a power structure

it's all started because men have no power but then like then you saw like the power that's totally what it was because he's like young they're all like 23 or something. That's bullshit. It all started because men have no power. But then you saw the power. That's totally what it was because he's young. They're all like 23, 24, 23 kids. They're good looking. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Because they don't drink. I love Mormon girls. Yeah, they have healthy lifestyles, so they're hot. I've dated a few Mormon girls, and they're fun until... Until they get more Mormon on you. Until it gets scary, you know, because they don't wear birth control. They don't wear it?

Like around there, they have like a candy necklace of birth control and they eat one until it runs out and then they get a new necklace from him's, from hers. They don't eat birth control. That's what hers should do. They should send you your pills on a candy necklace and then when it runs out, you get a new candy necklace and you just pop them off. They should just do that with Xanax.

Everyone has anxiety attacks. I think people are doing that with Xanax. People love Xanax I took it once but shout out to my Mormon girls that was good stuff shout out to the Mormon listeners they have all these workarounds

like that stupid soda that soda they drink instead of coffee that's the weirdest drink coffee they're drinking 8-10 sodas they're having something you would get. They're drinking eight, ten sodas a day. They're having something you would get at a state fair like eight in the morning every day.

And the companies that surround the real Mormons, they're basically companies where you create your own sodas with a little vanilla. It's like Jamba Juice for fucking soda. I'm like, how is this fucking healthy? I feel like Jews have a couple workarounds too, you guys do, don't you, for your rules? The hole in the sheet. That's for real orthodox, isn't it?

Or you have a Shabbat going to flip your lights for you on Saturdays. Yeah, they do that. Or they do like kosher pork or kosher beef how does that oh yeah right right right yeah there's a lot of weird just do the thing man if you're working around the rule because it's a 2,000 year law 2,000 year old law the mormon thing that i love it's always like the founding fathers it's different the soaking have you heard soaking yeah it's where you have sex but you don't move yeah but you have you penetrate but you can't no No, but someone else can be under the bed to shake the bed. It sounds like you might be into that.

It's kind of hot. It's not hot. It's terrible. It'd be dope to just marinate your girl. You got a little virgin friend under you moving the bed for you. He doesn't even know how to do it right. He's going way too fast. John Williams.

What if he goes... Yeah, exactly. John Williams the 30th. John Williams the 30th. John Williams the 30th. Just got back from his trip to Mauritania to try to... What if you had to ask your homie, my bro, John Williams. Mission trip.

Me and my girl, we're starting to really get into this, but I need you. I want to be in it. Why don't you just get a machine that clasps on the side and goes back and... Let's make it. Let's make it for the Mormons. Hook it up to a generator. They're not acidic too. They have electricity.

I'm saying, might need a lot of power. Those Mormon kids would fucking come immediately. I like the idea of a generator being in the room. You can tell whenever your neighbor's doing it the generator's going to. It's like you're having sex on a lawnmower.

John Deere sex. You can tell whenever your neighbor's doing it, the generator's going to. It's like you're having sex on a lawnmower. Exactly. John Deere sex. Your butt gets numb. Yeah. I was watching that, but I had to cancel the show. I've never been that. When I get sick, I get sick. I don't really get sick that often. That was a scary sick because

I just know I'm getting older. Also, I knew i was i was kind of hitting hard drinking right do a blow doing a lot of things being a bad boy yeah and just like not being a mormon i was sleeping though but i was going to bed at 5 a.m and waking up real sleep 1 p.m 2 p.m more like i got better sleep on the bus than I get... Yeah, but you're all fucked up when you're sleeping. True. And the van, the bus is just moving. It's like a fucking gonzo behind the wheel.

Gonzo. He actually did way better this time. He wasn't bitching. Thanks, Don. Thank you for being an employee! I know. You gotta stop hiring your friends, bro. I know. But I like Logan But I like Logan. I like Logan.

He's pretty cool. He's cool. He kind of looks like he'd be a little bitch. He gets a little sensitive. He kind of looks, but he's less of a little bitch than you think he's going to be by the way he dresses. You're like, oh, God. But he's kind of cool. He's chill. He's cool.

He's like Midwest. He's a nice guy. Every four days, he'll get into it. He's had to work. Yeah. He works hard. He'll get into a little episode. Like, I hate people.

You do that like every four hours. So I don't know. Who are you to judge? I keep them inside my body. Yeah, sure you do. That's why you got fucking swollen lymph nodes. It's all your hatred filling up your throat. I just don't like people who are fucking rude.

Oh, yeah. Fair enough. I don't like people who are fucking, who are unloyal, and I don't like fucking people... Never mind. Let's not get into that. I don't like... I just don't like people... Put those glasses on.

Let me yell at you so I can spit on your eyes. It's not about me. I don't like fucking people. You like fucking people. I like having sex. Yeah. Less and less as I get older, though, to be honest. Yeah, it gets a little repetitive, going back and forth,

having somebody move the bed for you. I'm kind of bored of beating off, too. Yeah, that gets real old, doesn't it? That's why you need PlayStation 5. That's why I need fucking reality television. Yeah, they're not fucking. I don't know if they are. I don't know.

How do you have sex? When you're on a reality TV show? With someone who's always just yelling and fucking just being mean maybe it makes it better i don't i just want to be with a nice girl you know there are only three or four of them out there i know i'm just kidding they're like i don't like i don't know this is why i sometimes don't like people it's like i don't like people who take advantage of people. And I don't like people who are just like fake nice and then talk shit. Like I'll just talk shit.

It's my least favorite. I talk shit in front of 10,000 people every week. That's my least favorite thing ever is fake nice people. It's, no one's ever accused me of being that. If anything, it's like I'm fake mean. Right. You're fake mean? You know what I mean?

I come off meaner than I am a little bit. Don't you think so? I've been realizing this. I don't think you're mean. I just think how you approach your vocal tone. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. It's like resting bitch face.

Yeah, retching bitch voice. But I think it's better to seem meaner than you are than nicer than you are. What do you mean? Because it's better to find out someone's you are than nicer than you are. What do you mean? Because it's better to find out someone's a nice guy than find out someone's a mean guy. I just don't get too excited about stuff. Oh, we know, brother.

People can take that as you not liking them. Oh, we know, brother. We know. But you know what I'm saying, though? People can take that as being mean, but really you're just vibing. Yeah. I told you about that artist that bought one of my songs he's like you're like hell yeah

i know you're excited but you're just like that's dope i said that's dope you did it again but it is dope i'm saying that's dope hey brother that's so exciting for you i did text you and say wow that's great congratulations or something but i did text you and say, wow, that's great. Congratulations or something. But whenever I'm like that, people think I'm being insincere. It's true. So that's the problem. Resting bitch voice. People are like, smile.

And then I smile and they're like, don't ever smile again. You're freaking out the children. There's kids here. Don't smile. Is this wearing sunglasses inside smiling? But you know, as I always say, you don't get it the other way either. You don't get sad fucking drag around the room, Nick, either. Yeah, and that's the thing too.

I don't like people who are just always pouting and fucking. That's the worst, dude. Don't drag people down to where you are. Yeah, like, you know, just try to be cool. Or just chill out and shut the fuck up. I don't know. You don't have to talk all the time about your fucking feelings No one cares you're an adult male

We say that while we tell everyone our feelings Every Tuesday morning Yeah it's different they want it we're getting paid If you're getting paid if you have a sponsor You're allowed to complain about your feelings You have to have at least one sponsor okay That's a deal I always have there's always that

One or two or three musicians in my dms just always just like kind of throwing shade at me and then then while they're throwing shade at me hating their life about like how their career's going really that sucks i know i feel bad for them but like don't throw shade at me just because what do you mean they're throwing shade at you like give me an example like don't say who it me just because you feel bad for them. What do you mean they're throwing shade at you? Like, give me an example. Don't say who it was, but. Oh, they just say like, can't believe you made it this far with your gag. Oh.

And then they. Like, they're like backhand compliment you. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like, wow, you're really doing it with what you're doing. I'm like, and then they'll talk about. What is that even? And then like, yo, man, give me a shot of opening. I'm like, you just talk shit about my bit. And then you want me to have you open for them? Once you get a bit then, bitch.

What's your gag? Playing boring songs no one cares about? Cool bit, man. No one likes you. I don't know. You could tell that it's like a call for help. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're trying to be...

I hate people who don't understand how to tell a joke and it just turns out mean. Yeah, yeah. I'm pretty good at that, actually. What? I can kind of ribbit people without coming off too mean. 100%. Yeah, yeah. That's where I can be good. That's where you're... No, you're a master. That's why the women love me. Women love

me lately. And me. I love... Women do love you. Women have been really into me lately. There's been so many women at the trivia who are just like fucking fans. Yeah. And I see them forwards like, let him cook. Wait, what? I see these reshares of these girls.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let him cook. He's cooking. It's his day. Remember we were like hanging out with Toby or whatever. She's like, some girl was asking about me. Yeah. You were like, what?

I don't know. I think women like a calm man around Denver. They're like a woman, a man that's just calm and doesn't. He's a good shit talker, but also. Just warmth to him, but just calm. He's got a hog man around Denver. They like a man that's just calm and doesn't... He's a good shit talker, but also... Just warmth to him, but just calm. He's got a hog. Never talk. You have a hog.

Doesn't bring himself up. Women can tell if you have a hog, by the way. It's a certain... Men with hogs. It's crazy, dude. Sean's been doing this thing where he pulls up his pants. Oh, no. He's got a wig.

I mean, he dwarfs me. I guarantee it. There's no way. He's like three inches, four inches taller than me. I'm like, Sean. He's like, what? You've been hyping up my dick for so long i'm like kind of like getting shorter shorts and pants pretty soon he's just gonna just have the hog gonna be hanging out the bottom

just like it's like just the head it's the sixth member of the band he's gonna start playing he's becoming more comfortable with himself like he's cutting his sleeves so everyone sees his tats like really becoming like a real rock star so i had to cancel all months and then you went to buena vista went to buena vista sober i was on steroids played so the first time i ever played sober it was kind of fun i realized my how loud my band was i wonder why i want to know is your ear is your hearing not as good when you're drunk i guess i don't know i just think um as i drink as i drink i'm just going into more into like my zen mode right i'm just like how oh yeah that's why like i got i was like preparing myself to be sober for red rocks but after like the third song i was nervous because i've never really yeah

you drink to kill the nerves i realize how shy i am if I'm not drinking. Yeah, I wouldn't say you're that outgoing, actually. I wouldn't call you an outgoing guy, actually. In social settings. That was the first time I'm looking at 7,000 people and I'm sober. I'm like, what the fuck? I've been having these weird dreams about that where people are putting me on impromptu

spots at the comedy cellar. That's a weird dream. And I have to be funny without a weird. And I have to like, just like be funny without my band. Oh, and I'm bombing. Yeah. I mean,

you would bomb. Cause I'm sober. Anybody would bomb the comedy center. Cellar has never done standup before, you know? Right. But I'm sober too. But people like,

I was cracking people up at red rocks talking about like, thank God they don't. Yeah. Eat cats in Denver. Oh really? Yeah. We just eat mushrooms being funny for a musician is way harder than being a comedian or being easier yeah because like if you're if a

bomb if you joke if a bomb joke bomb just like hit it let's do it boys extremely loud band song they all love you know what i mean but yeah first time ever like because it was cool in that was a great venue Lariat or whatever you should play there I want to play there one of your side gigs yeah because they have a

band house upstairs and it's really fancy how far is it three hours two hours oh it's close it's easy what's the cap there

two three cool that's not bad that's the kind of rooms I should be playing like 300 and like in the mountains

like it's an easy you can literally go home if you want. If you wanted. Well, like that was the first time I was sober. I crowd surfed to a bottle of water. That's pretty funny. I felt like I'm deeply ill. Carry me. I felt like a piece of shit. That's alright. You probably

are a little bit. But it was fun. And people said it was a great show but I was in my head a little bit. So then I've never like right after the show walked upstairs and went into bed but the steroids were got me so hungry and like i couldn't sleep it turned into a beast of a man oh god i was i couldn't i was because i had no libido like normally like oh i'll just beat off go to bed whatever yeah classic classic you know one two one two punch. But I was eating popcorn. I was literally just eating popcorn and just watching Instagram and watching.

I love TikTok. I'm loving football lately. Yeah, I've been really into football this year. I'm into college big time. Yeah. Well, yeah, NCAA football 25, too, probably would help with that. Yeah, and there's 12 teams in the playoff. And just it's like the transfer portal is cool. Everybody's good.

Different people are good, kind of. It's fun. So yada, yada. NFL's good. And then we went to Red Rocks. And then just Green Sky was so cool. Everyone was just like, how are you feeling? Do you need anything?

They're just like, Green Sky dudes are fucking good dudes. They get a bad rap. I only really know Bruza. I know Anders a little bit. They're just like, Green Sky dudes are fucking good dudes. They get a bad rap. I only really know Bruza. I know Anders a little bit. They're good dudes. Yeah. Same as Pigeons, too. I've never had an issue with them.

No. Yeah. I like their music. Yeah, I do, too. Like, I like them way more than a lot of other bluegrass. Paul Hoffman's a fucking amazing songwriter. Oh, yeah. Bruza.

Bruza's like one of the songwriters you don't realize has a lot of fucking songs. Right. Because he's quiet and he doesn't constantly talk about what he's doing. Yeah, it's just so funny, the bluegrass scene. How'd they sound? They sounded great. He's like, I had to get on. Paul is like, because he's a little competitive, he's like,

I saw you and all three do that thing in the middle of the stage. Oh, yeah. I had to fucking do it. And he's like, I'm running around. He did it the night before. Yeah. He's like, you could that thing in the middle of the stage. Oh, yeah. I had to fucking do it. And he's like, I'm running around. He did it the night before. Yeah. He's like, you could have done it the night we did it. He's like, no, I wanted you to know that you smelled my blood on that fucking stage.

I'm like, okay, Paul, chill, chill, chill. You play mandolin, dude. Calm down. No, but he's cool. It was awesome. I love that little competitiveness. Oh, yeah. No, there's a healthy, you know. It love that little competitiveness. Oh, yeah. There's a healthy, you know.

It's healthy. A little. Yeah, you don't want to be like. Like a hater. Yeah, because it's not about hating. It's about like. It's not a sport. I saw what you did.

You can both win. And I want to do my version of that. And he had Holly. Because it was cool. Is she in the band now? What's the deal? Kind of. She's tours with them?

Yeah. She plays the whole show? Yeah. Oh. I love her in that band. I think they're. It probably fills out the sound a little bit band and yeah it's sick and you know the whole situation with holly was like that was a full circle moment because right her her husband was my philosophy teacher funny and a musician a philosophy teacher and they have a house in san francisco that's's crazy. And a kid, right? Yeah.

Was that her kid that was running around the whole time? Yeah, the kid who was on the solo. That was why it was such a full circle moment. So what happened? Explain that. I only saw pictures. He came out on stage with you, right? Yeah, we were just reminiscing.

Holly and I were like, it's crazy. Because Holly told me to quit school and become a musician when I was 19. Her and Jeffff her husband and then her kid is like this three-year-old virtuoso drummer he's like good right he's fucking good like he sounds like a drummer yeah and he's always just has his guitar on him and he's like he reminds me of like coco the tour dog oh my god that's exactly what uh me and julie were calling him last night he'd just walk on stage with the guitar and start shredding with blue with a green sky yeah a little bit and i just saw but before because we open i saw him inside state just like looking at sean looking at me

just fucking shredding that's awesome yeah i'm like hey little man get up here i'm like jeff i mean he's like so at first he got nervous and i'm like jeff get him up here whatever let's get the fuck yeah who gives a have you seen the idiots get him up here. Whatever. Who gives a fuck? Yeah, who gives a fuck? Have you seen the idiots I let up here? Let's let a fun, nice kid who's sober up here, like the Cacuzos, get this in. So then we, because we did that same thing with Scott, where Scott. Oh, you did that? Yeah.

Like where you pretend? We're like, yeah, we did the same thing where we hid. I'm like, Sean, he knew exactly what. Yeah, because Sean's the man. Sean's the man. He's my fucking vice president. Like, he knows what I'm about, he knew exactly what. Yeah, because Sean's the man. Sean's the man. He's my fucking vice president. He knows what I'm about to go into a bit. He's the vice

president. I like that. For sure, vice president. Kamala. Yeah, he's Kamala. No, he's Kamala. I like that. What, then? I'm just like fucking... Joe Biden. You're getting old. Getting old. Getting sick and old. Dancing and stuff.

You're getting old. Getting old. You're getting sick and old. Canceling stuff. That was good. Break that out. Break that out. But we were on the same wavelength.

And he went and hid. I'm like, we did the thing. And the little kid was the cutest thing. He's like, what? What's his name? Ryland. Well, that's a cool name. Ryland Holland.

These little jam band kids are coming for us. I'm telling you, man. Everybody's having kids, and they all want to be music. Are Bayless's kids? I think they're into baseball. They're into sports. Good. Thank God. Good, good, good.

We don't need another rich kid in the jam band scene. Just kidding. You know what I learned on the pigeon store? Greg Allmont. He's a theater kid. He's a theater kid, but guess who you used to date? Who? Sammy Garrett. Oh, I knew that. They went to prom together, right? Yeah, and they were both like the leads

in their musicals. I think they went to high school together. He was showing me all these pictures of them dating and stuff. It was so funny. That's such a weird couple in retrospect. But actually not really. Sammy's always been a theater kid.

I played a gig with her a couple weeks ago. Greg's always been a theater kid. Pigeons is definitely like a theater kid band. That band is like the theater kids of the jam band scene. I guess we haven't really rapped about the Pigeons Dogs tour. Yeah.

I really do love Pigeons playing ping pong. They're good guys. Yeah, they're good. Every single one of them are fucking solid fucking dudes. I only know Gator very well, and Jeremy's always been. And Gator was kind of a sad boy the first half of the tour,

just going through some you know internal stuff I was thinking about him we were talking it through for the last three weeks but then he finally got out of that and we fucking really had some hangs he rules you think he listens to the podcast ever? I think Greg rules too

I don't know him that well he does get a bad rap a lot of people kind of like don't fuck with him i don't know they should because he is he's just like you know he's a theater kid once you understand he's a theater kid that makes me like him less i'm just kidding jesus i mean it makes me understand why he's the way he is you know me in theater i'm a band kid he's just he has high anxiety he's always worried he's jewish probably right he's jewish i'm just kidding. Jeremy too. Like Jeremy's shown his fucking awesome.

He's type A as fuck. He's type A. He kind of gives me Salkin energy a little bit. He has spreadsheets for spreadsheets. You know what I'm talking about? Him and Salkin are the same person. Yeah, exactly. I feel like they could run a business together.

Actually, they couldn't because they- He's got spreadsheets. It'd be redundant. I love watching him work in the morning. We both have coffee because I wake up- Yeah, he's you. He's like the you of the band. He'll go into the green room where we all share a green room. We have catering. We'll have coffee Yeah he's you He'll go into the green room

Where we all share a green room We have catering, we'll have coffee I'm like just do your thing I just want to watch you He has spreadsheets for how many times they played each song How many times they played each song in each region Yeah you have to do that when you're a jam band I'm like Jesus

He's like having a panic attack Because their fans pay attention to that shit They do And then he has spreadsheets for the budgets They have a budget? I'm like, Jesus, he's having a panic attack. Because their fans pay attention to that shit. They do. And then they have spreadsheets for the budgets. They have a budget? I'm just kidding. They're smart boys.

They're smart fucking boys. And you can't get that far without being smart boys. I honestly think that part of the reason they get a little hate is because not how they are now, but how they were when they come up. They were wearing pajama pants. I hated that so much. Not how they are now, but how they were when they come up. They were wearing pajama pants. Yeah, you know. I hated that so much. Yeah, some, you know, but like.

Or a suit. You know, some of the corniness happens when you're trying to fucking. I'm not mad at the corniness. You get a flash in the pan. I'm just saying that's why people. I mean, I did the same shit. People are allowed to have their opinion, though, too. They don't have to like pajama pants.

Right. I was wearing Laker jerseys every show. That's better than pajama pants. I asked them, do you regret wearing the pajama pants? A little bit. It helped. It worked. I'm not hating.

I don't wish them to be less successful than they are. I'm just stating facts here. It was really cool to see the jam scene show up. I wish they had a keyboard successful than they are. I'm just stating facts here. It was really cool to see the Jamstine show up. I wish they had a keyboard player sometimes, pigeons. Whenever fucking Jeremy Kaplan played with them, it was sick. Who's he? Dogs in a Pile.

We will go into them next because those guys are the fucking best. They can play their asses off. They're humble. They're sweet boys They don't take their fame for granted And they're on the come up And it's getting really big

They're going to destroy Eggie I hope so They have the same management I think Eggie left No I think they're on the same I don't know I didn't mean it like I they just left. But maybe not. I didn't mean it like I hope so.

Oh, fuck yeah, it's competition. Everybody knows how we are. Yeah. We love dogs. We love Aggie. I want every band. Why would I wish a band to fail? It's already so easy to fail. Sometimes you have to say that because some of our fans are little bitches. But I like that. I like little bitches too. They're good for the brand. They're good for the brand. It's not our fans. Our fans know we talk shit. We talk shit with love. But the new fans who are just like, oh, too. They're good for the brand. They're good for the brand. It's not our fans. Our fans know we talk shit.

We talk shit we love. But the new fans who are just like, oh, let's see what Frasco's podcast is about. Yeah, they're awesome. I play with dogs. I play with them both. If you DM me. I started getting close with. Send me five bucks.

I'll tell you who I have more fun playing with. Okay, go. What were you saying? At Nicholas Dash Gerlach. Nope. Just at Nicholas Gerlach. Send me five bucks. I'll tell you who I have more fun sending.

Did anyone send you money when we said that? A few people did. Like five. Barber did. Barber sent me ten bucks on Venmo. I love our community. When I was really sick, a lot of people texted me in our scene saying,

are you okay? Is everything okay? Like genuinely worried. Like Trey? Oh, dude, I had such a weird dream that me and Trey were doing a duo gig. That'd be fun. I would want to go to that. And we were making the marketing for it.

And he was kind of cool about whatever I wanted to do with the marketing. I could see him being cool about whatever you wanted to do with the marketing he's good at making fun remember he made fun of himself from that meme that one time oh yeah where he's like in line at the store he came out and recreated it um once you get 80 80 90 million dollars you're pretty chill about getting made fun of i think the best the best jam band story is you know the the meme where all the girls around Trey are actually all the Umphreys' wives now. Oh, yeah.

That's pretty funny. They were just all homies in Chicago. And then they all eventually married Umphreys. They went to one Umphreys show and they married Ryan Stasek. Ryan. And Bayless. But that was like... Before they met him, yeah.

I think they kind of knew him, but Andy and then like Vince's wife, you know. So, Umphreys just pillaged a friend group of Phish fans, basically. They just like... I just think the Chicago, they just love the JFC and they're all just always hanging out.

They colonized a Phish fan group. Colonized. With their wives. I love Umphreys. I love Bayless so much. We're doing... Yeah, boys and girls. You're going to Indiana. Or Bayless Frasco Tour. I love Bayless so much. We're doing, yeah, boys and girls. You're going to Indiana. Or Bayless Frasco Tour.

We are going to Indiana. Whitestown. I know. What'd you say? I'll be the only Jew out there? You're going to be the first Jew to ever go to Whitestown, I think. Unless they've had other musicians.

I've heard that venue's actually, it's a new brewery. Yeah. I heard it's pretty cool, actually. It's like a nice venue and stuff. I've never been there. It's new, and I don't go to Whitestown.

You don't go to Whitestown. Yeah, three shows. Two out of the three are selling really good. One of the shows... Hobart is selling decent. Let me look. You've still got a month and a half. I've still got a month and a half, true.

What's the one that's not doing well? The first one. Which one's that, Whitestown? I don't know. I got the ticket counts for the first one. I'm like, really? I thought... Maybe it's a smaller venue.

It is smaller, but maybe they just didn't give us the date. Or maybe they just like... Maybe it's behind or whatever. East Moline. Come on, East Moline. Where even is that? Outside Chicago somewhere? Yeah.

Because we're really hitting those Z markets. We're hitting the Z markets. We sure are. We wanted to find dates close to where Bayless lives. Yeah. I mean, it's going to be easy. I'm going trick-or-treating with them. Okay.

We're all dressed. Me, Bayless, and Annie are dressing up as Beetlejuice. Are you Beetlejuice? I have to be Beetlejuice. You kind of look like him already. I want to be the worm. You definitely looked like him last week before you went to the doctor.

Dude, I had the Chad Cacuzza raccoon eyes, dude. Somebody said Frasco three times and you showed up like that. That's actually a good joke, too. Yeah, I'm on fire. But yes, come on out, guys. East Moline, Whitestown. We sold a shit ton on the first day.

Tony, Indy, it's because it's Indianapolis. I know, but Hobart's in Indianapolis too. No, Hobart's like two and a half, three hours from Indianapolis. That's more like Chicago area. It's like an hour east of Chicago. But East Moline, come on, do better. Hobart's a real steel town.

It's like Gary. And it's a thousand cap. I can't believe we're going to a thousand cap. Well, that's like Humphreys, like Washington, D.C., you know? Yeah, that's right. No, but Whitestown and Hobart are a good three hours apart, two hours apart.

And everyone who has questions, yes, Annie Bayless is on my ass about learning Umphreys McGee songs. Good luck with that. I have 10 songs. I have 10 songs I'm going to learn. You guys need me to be in this. I feel like you guys need me to be in this band at some point. Do you want to do it?

You need another soloist. I do. Send me an offer. I'm going to ask for four more offers. I'd be down. Next time you do that, though, some other time. Bayless, hold on. Oh, I forgot to bring Denzel over.

Nick wants to be in our band. He would probably love it send him a voice i got a guitar now i gotta with your approval or not approval i could play keys even a little bit while you run around and play it on the podcast we can stop doing bits we can do bits um it would add a lot to the show probably probably, actually. All joking aside. Anyway. I would love to hear fucking sacks all over the fucking Humphrey McKinnon. I've done it before.

Really? I've sat in with them like 15 times. Yeah, they're the best. God, I love Bayless. And I love Ryan. Ryan called me, too. I haven't talked to him in a while. I should shoot him a text.

Ask him how he's doing. Stacey called me like, hey, man. I haven't talked to him in a while. I should shoot him a text, ask him how he's doing. Stacey called me like, hey, man, I haven't talked to you in a while. You want to catch up? I'm like, yeah, and we just shot the shit about it. I think he's been into his family lately. Yeah, and he's just happier now. He's happier. He sold his house. Oh, he did.

He lives. I didn't know that was even going on. I don't follow people's real estate proceedings. He's all about family. He's all about just like. He's got all about family. He's all about just like. He's got a good family. He's got a fucking great family. His kids are the shit.

His wife is the shit. I mean, he seems happier. Shout out to Ryan Stacey. She's always been nicer to me than she needs to be. Yeah. I mean, she's just too hot to even, I can't believe she even looks at me. You know what I mean?

She's like past supermodel. I'm honestly surprised that she can perceive that I exist. That's how good looking she is. If we're in the same room, I just figured she just sees whatever's behind me. When Ryan listens to this, he's just not like, fuck you guys. What, for calling his wife beautiful and his kids great?

Sometimes M.W. He's a good looking guy too. Ryan's hot. He's got piercing eyes. I mean, he married her. But sometimes M.W. talks to me, and I'm like, the room slows down. Oh, come on. She's just a person.

I mean. No, she's just so beautiful. Yeah, she is gorgeous. She's like a southern. She talks nicely. It's like, it's not like I'm in love with her. She's always dressed really well, too. She's never like, yeah.

She's fucking awesome. Yeah, she rules. But. Annie Bayless is a babe, too. Yeah, they're all babes. God damn it. Humphries McGee, shout out. Yeah, she rules. Annie Bayless is a babe, too. Yeah, they're all babes. God damn it. Humphries McGee, shout out. Man, you're alone.

Go get them. Go get them, boys. I'm proud of you. Iron is hot. What a life. You got great kids. You got great families. They do seem to be good dads.

Dude, Bayless and Stasek are great fucking dads. Yeah, I mean, I don't have any evidence. I don't know the other guys. Joel's a good dad. I'm sure he is. There's no way he isn't. Joel's a good guy in general. He wrote a book.

Yeah. I used to hook up with Joel's babysitter. I know. You told me this, I don't know, 15 times. I know, but I haven't told the crowd. Oh, good job. Hey, guys, Andy slept with a babysitter. Dude, babysitters are tight.

Not tight, tight. Yikes. Just like they're nice people. They're babysitting someone else's kids for a living. Adult babysitters who are over 18 are cool, yes. I mean, many babysitters

are like 14, dude. Really? Yeah. It's like how you make money in high school, right? Not anymore. Not in this economy i think a lot of 30 year olds are babysitters oh it's like getting nannies i guess that's why i probably should say nannies not babies i started i tried to babysit in high school nobody asked me

i'm just kidding i mean i'd love your kids yeah what are you what are you gonna do with my kid nick you're gonna take him to the we're gonna watch youtube documentaries about world war ii and the browns in the 80s. We're going to find a doc about Ray Lewis. We're going to learn about Bernie Kosar. We're going to learn about CTE. I feel bad for Tua, dude.

I do, but he kind of did it to himself. That was a very dumb play he made there. He should retire. It's crazy that Hamlin... Let me go on the record and say he should retire. He has the money now. Yeah, and it's crazy that Hamlin let me go on the record and say he should retire he has the money now yeah and it's all guaranteed money he's got 180 million

coming just retire go to Hawaii and just relax right but I also understand wanting to compete but it's not like he's that good anyway

it's like you're gonna win the Super Bowl right probably fun throwing a Tyreek Hill though right oh god yeah dude the Tyreek Hill

resting was fucking wild that was such bullshit Mike Florida what the fuck are you up to over fucking wild, too. That was such bullshit. What the fuck are you up to over there? At first, I was like, because he has a little bit of a past with anger issues, so I was like, okay, let me see the video. And he seemed pretty chill to me. I mean, he kept rolling up the window, but that's not illegal.

And you don't have to do everything the cops tell you just because the cops tell you. That doesn't make it a law. But he gave him his ID, and he did everything right. I don't think they believed him that he was a pro football player also look at his car well read the id see the three hundred thousand dollar car look at his body he's a fucking block from the stadium here's the other thing he should be allowed to speed i've had this opinion the other i've been wanting to get this off he should be allowed to speed okay

what so he runs like 25 miles an hour which is like twice as fast as most humans he's used to going fast okay if he's going 80 in a 50 that's fine he he moves at that speed naturally he's comfortable going 80 in a 50 also he's fucking rich okay okay i think that's a good argument he should be allowed to speed because he's just used to going faster all right also you should be allowed to speed if you're in a more expensive car. Because they're better cars. No, I want it. Fuck those cops. Final clap. Yeah.

Yeah. He should be allowed to speed. He's the cheetah. Alright, my manager says I need to promote the dates. Here we go with the dates. Thursday, we're opening for Sting. I swear to promote the dates. God, here we go with the dates. Thursday, we're opening for Sting. Nuh-uh.

I swear. Oh, my God. It's going to be awesome. He's the headliner on the same stage. I do like Sting. I like the police. I like the idea that he is really into Kama Sutra, which is hilarious.

It's like the opposite of you sexually, right? Just rip it on me while you're texting. Sorry. It's like the opposite of abuse, actually, right? Just rip it on me while you're texting. Sorry. It's like double. You're not even listening. I'm so fucking good at ripping. I need an XM radio show. I'm just kidding.

Let's get a radio show. Oh, we have one. It's called This Podcast. I know what you mean. Next season. I've never been a big singer. We need to let the audience know. Next season... I've never been a big singer. We need to let the audience know.

Next season, I think we're just going to do mostly just Nick and I. I think people like it. That's what they like. I know, but I don't want people to get sick of our opinions. And then random goofy guests. They don't get sick of us. It's only an hour a week. Think about it. True. I love doing the interviews. I'm just getting burnt out from doing all the interviews.

How many times can you do this? Enough is enough. Interview people you don't even care about. I care. I've already done all the people I wanted to. We did some cool people like Lisa Loeb. That's sick. You didn't realize how famous she was in the 90s.

You're a little younger than me. I remember. Missed you. Let me do the dates before we go. Bourbon Beyond. You're a little younger than me. I remember. I was like, Missed you. Yeah. All right, let me do the dates before we go. Bourbon Beyond, that's a great festival. Louisville. Zach Bryan.

I love Louisville. Don't say Louisville. Say Louisville. Louisville. You got to practice it. I'm going there a day early. And then Zach Bryan. Dave Matthews. The whole nine.

Dave Matthews? Dave Matthews. God damn, they dropped the fucking bag on this festival. They dropped the bag. It must be sponsored by an alcohol company or something. I think it's as big as Coachella. It seems like it. Yeah.

Or Americana. And then Saturday, next Saturday, 9-20. I can't read anymore. Hold on. Bayless just asked. So, that's my reply. Oh my god. I love that guy.

I'm obsessed with him. I just landed in Chicago. Me and Bayless have very similar outlooks on life. Oh, I love him. Remember we had that contest, that staring contest? Anyway, get back to your dates. Okay, sorry. Yeah, you did the staring contest. Yeah.

Then Nala does the staring contest. She's good at it. Who? His kid. Oh. His little one is really good at staring. Nola. Nola.

I say Nola. Nola is the cat from Lion King. Nola. It's the girl from... I say Nola. Maybe you're saying it right and I don't know. I thought it was Nola. It's probably Nola.

928, yep, Lake Paris. I thought it was Nola. It's probably Nola. 928. Yep. Lake Paris. We're doing a DJ festival. Same, same, but different. Oh, that's a cool festival. It's cool. That'll be fun. You have high energy.

You'll fit in with it. Yeah. And then the last, basically kind of the last dates of 2000. A little run in October. It's this little run. It's 10-3 Milwaukee. That show's almost sold out Thank you guys

Love that city Love that I do too actually It's a great It's a cool city I do like Milwaukee I don't go there enough It's kind of like Pittsburgh

Yeah And then October 4th Garrettsville, Ohio Ooh That's at Nelson's Legend That's a cool place too Yep Love that place

And then we're back At Grand Rapids On the 5th Oh I'm excited for that and then fucking canopy club old jay goldberg he presents he does present and he will be presenting i'll say about that um 10 9 rattleboro vermont what else can't be club selling not selling that good tough room every time i i see the tickets, I'm like, what the fuck?

I pack out summer camp. Tough room. Tough room. And then two days before, they buy tickets. But I never really sell it out. They're poor college kids. I know. That's the thing.

We got to make the tickets, the ticket price a little cheaper. But then we can't afford to go there. Yeah. And then 10, what is it? God then we can't afford to go there. And then 10... What is it? God, I can't see shit today. 10-9, Brattleboro, Vermont at the Stone Church. What is it called?

I forgot. I don't know. I've never been there. Oh, yeah. The Stone Church. There's only 20 tickets left for that. It's like Mahali's place. That's going to sell out.

Then back to Fairfield, Connecticut. Woo! The warehouse. I love that room, actually. Is that where it's's all around the side? Yeah, that's cool. And then 10-11, everyone's really excited about this one.

Your mom's birthday? 10-11, she'll be 63. Happy birthday, Mrs. Gerlach. That's not her last name. What's her last name? I'm not going to say. I'm not saying my mom's last name on a podcast. She worked for the state government somewhere,

so I don't want to tell anyone. Everyone's excited for this show at Briar Creek, Pennsylvania at the Hogs Hollow Saloon. What is that? I don't know. It sounds like a location in Red Dead Redemption or something. Everyone's really stoked that I'm playing in the Hogs Hollow Saloon. I'm like, okay, cool.

You got a hollow hog after last week. Oh, yeah. 10-12, Darlington. Oh, the Ramble Festival. That'll be fun. Oh, yeah. 10-12, Darlington. Oh, the Ramble Festival. That'll be fun. Oh, yeah. I heard that one's cool. It's like a jam bandy, right?

Yeah. And then 10-13, we're back in Buffalo. We're doing a festival. I tried to avoid it this year. Every 20 minutes, you got to go to Buffalo. But they gave us an offer last month. I'm like, it's a really big offer. Take the money and run take the fucking money but um we're we're playing we're headlining

spafford and magic beans are opening oh that's fun so grab your tickets and then we're at hulaween we got a good time slobber right before um i love hulaween i'll play string cheese i'll play there a ton oh you find the main stage right before string cheese? Mm-hmm. Ooh. And then the Bayless Frasca gig, and then we just confirmed a podcast show. Oh, yeah, we did? In Denver.

In Denver? Oh, Ophelia's? On December 11th at Ophelia's. We just got... We're back. We're back, yeah. Ophelia's is back. I just confirmed four, actually.

Every six weeks. Danny's my homie. He wanted me to come do a tour of the place. The only one we're not going to do is in February when we announce our big headline. Because you're on tour and shit. I just don't want to compete, and I don't want Strasburg,

just in case our ticket sales are low at the first. Because I know Denver, they show up. Because even Red Rocks, they're like, I'm like, wow, this is scary low for Red Rocks. And then fucking 7,000 people showed up. Yeah, people walk up here. But yeah, I can understand not wanting to compete. I'm excited for these new owners of Ophelia's.

And then New Year's Eve, guys. Come to the pageant. We already sold a shit ton for pre-sale. Thank you, guys. This is big, though. Go come out to St. Petersburg, where I will be opening for Little Stranger, my favorite band. The greatest band. I love Little Stranger, my favorite band. The greatest band! I love Little Stranger and I'm proud

of your headlining. I like them. You're proud that I'm opening for you. Damn. They got a band, full band now. They hired a different sax. We've been playing God at a festival. They hired a sax player and not me. He's a nice guy.

The guy who is the sax guy is like a reggae guy. He's a nice guy. The guy who is... The sax guy is like a reggae guy. He's obsessed with reggae. I'm just kidding. You would be great in that band, but... He's fine. It's fine. Trust me. I'm not worried about it. He's a reggae guy. They need a reggae guy.

I'd be good on any gig. I'm amazing. Reggae guys got to stick it with reggae guys. Yeah, also, it was a joke. Don't worry. You don't have to defend it. Alright, those are my dates. How long have we been going? We didn't do the volume pitch. Oh, yeah. Volume.com.

Let's put it in the... Why don't we just pretend we'll cut this in? No, no, no. Do it then. Why don't you do the volume.com pitch? Why? You do it. I don't even go there. What? I'm not going there. Why are you putting me on the spot?

I'm just kidding. Volume.com, the number one. No, it's not number one yet, but it will be. It will be. In quality. They're the best. We just hung out with them all last week. Loyalty.

They're great guys. They're great, loyal people. They're great guys. Here's the platform. You put your stuff up there for free A bunch of people can see it They can interact with it They can donate to you You can do it no matter what you're doing

If you're a trivia guy If you're a music guy You can do close up magic You're a podcaster Why isn't Constantine on there doing his magic tricks He will How funny was he when he came over to the house dressed up as me He's a riot dude

I fucking love Merlino and Constantine so fucking much. Here's the thing. Let me throw a little pitch. I'm going to start streaming my trivia Mondays there starting in about a month. Oh, is it happening? Yep. I got the gear. I'm going to start it for the two-year anniversary.

Congratulations. Look at us building content for volume. I'm going to start being very loyal to the company. I'm going to start. Stop it. I'm going to start doing that on the two-year anniversary, I think, which is either going to be the 7th or the 15th. I haven't decided yet. So, yeah. Get on there. Volume. Stop it. I'm going to start doing that on the two-year anniversary, I think, which is either going to be the 7th or the 15th. I haven't decided yet.

So yeah, get on there. Volume. Sign up. It's free to sign up. Bands can do it. Creators can do it. There's a lot of free. Andy's got some live shows up there. And they have a great archive of all our past podcasts, all our past shows. Yes, you can only see our live streams on Volume. Now, nugs.com. Would you quit being

Volume yourself? No, but we hung out with him last week. We got seafood. It was really good. And then Andy had to go to the hospital. Maybe you were allergic to the shellfish. No, I think I just smashed three Espresso Martinez. You had three of them?

I thought you had one. And it didn't work. You said Espresso Martinez. You had three of them? I thought you had one. And it didn't work. You said Espresso. Oh, did you see Sabrina Carpenter making out with that alien? Holy fuck. Yeah, maybe. I bet Ryan Dempsey was so jealous. Why? Oh, yeah.

Wow. Volume. I love volume. I can't wait to put my trivia show on there. We love volume. See the crazy numbers it does. We love volume. Thanks a joke. I love volume. I can't wait to put my trivia show on there and see how... We love volume. See the crazy numbers it does. We love volume.

It's going to do crazy numbers. Thanks for coming. They did their company party at our show. Thank you so much. And they bought tickets. And they bought tickets. I can't thank you guys enough for fucking supporting me. Yeah, all joking and bullshit aside.

All joking and bullshit aside. I love you guys. It's pretty great to have some people that don't ask for the guest list. I know. And just sell 40 tickets for you. I guarantee you Nugs.com asked for a guest list. Oh, they want guest lists so bad. That's their whole fucking business is just to get on guest lists.

Are you kidding me? Not volume. They pay in support. They're guest list vultures over there at Nugs. If you want people to work with you and not ask for a guest list at your show. I love it. Go with volume. It's just literally no cost.

Just fucking try it. Let's try it. It costs you nothing. It costs you nothing. Just fucking do it. And look how great that. It's a great logo. They got a try it. Let's try it. It costs you nothing. It costs you nothing. Just fucking do it. And look how great that is. It's a great logo. They got a great team.

They're a great company. They got a great team. All right. I got to go wash my car. I'm going to go wash my car. Really? I love washing my car. Like with a soap and everything?

No, I have someone do it. I like watching it. I'll go in there. I'll go into the car machine. I'll smoke a bowl. Just like watch all the cool pink and purple colors inside my car. I'll put on a podcast.

They're like, Andy, why are you in? Because I'm like, I've had a rep. You could just not be in the car. You could just go and chill outside. I'm like, no, I want to be in here with you guys. It's fun in there. It's quiet. It's like my zen. Dogs get real scared in the car wash. I have to be in here with you guys. It's fun in there. It's quiet. It's like my zen.

Dogs get real scared in the car wash. I have to be in LA next week. What are you doing? Don't we have interviews next week? I moved them to October. Okay, so we'll have... They haven't been changing the calendar yet. I just told them this morning.

I'm excited. I get to be in the studio when they master a record. Ooh, that's a bad idea. And it's Bernie Grunman. You know Bernie Grunman? They're going to let you be there while they master?

Oh, they're probably going to get it like half, like pretty much done. Mastering's fucking easy. It's all presets and... Well, whatever. That's arguable.

It's not mixing. Mixing's harder. Mixing is like, that takes months. It costs more. Yeah. Just take, mastering takes two

days yeah but a great mastering engineer is something beautiful oh yeah that's why you know the guys who do i'll say this bozzy and bernie grunman yeah mastering is easy to be like medium at compared to mixing it's all about the gear too it's all about the gear you have to have a good ear you gotta have a good ear yeah i know what you're going for but yeah it isn't as creative as mixing. I'll give you that. Yeah. I mean, there's like certain things

that you need for radio and need for vinyl. It's like that type of process. You don't even master for vinyl. Yeah, you do. I thought... Oh, no, you don't use a limiter. Sorry, there's no limiting it because the vinyl's the limiter.

Anyway, whatever. But Bernie Grudman, he did Thriller. I've heard of him. Yeah, he's the best. So I haven't talked to him in years since Scott Whelan died. Is it an hourly or do you play by the... Scott Whelan. Wyland?

Wyland. From Stone Temple Pilots? Uh-huh. Oh, you know they're friends? That's how I got... When we were recording... When I was recording in L.A. more, I was using Scott's producer and Scott's master.

Oh, I didn't know that. Okay, cool. So I'm like, you know, I finally got a little record deal. Are they charging you by the hour? No, per song. That's okay. That's better for mastering. Yeah.

Yeah. Still another fucking blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I mean, it's expensive. It can be expensive. Four or five figures. Jesus. Oh, for the whole album. Yeah.

Okay, yeah, sorry. All right, guys. Love you. Be safe out there. Take care of your body. Take care of yourself. If you're feeling sick, get out you're feeling sick get out there get the gear ain't cheap dude you're ain't cheap yeah yeah you're buying volume and get on volume because they're the best become rich we are or we are we're not rich and middle class which is pretty good for a sax player i feel i don't know why i bragged about the Cherry Creek Magazine thing.

Why? Now everyone thinks I'm rich. I mean, you're not poor. I'm not poor. You're rich for being a garbage person. All right, I've got to go. Bye. You've just tuned in to the World Saving Podcast with Andy Frasco.

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